Khaine Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>Warhammer Chronicles: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>TOW: https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>94822299>Thread Question:Now you've had some time to digest it, thoughts of the High Elf reveal and shit?
I didn't see it.
Warhammer fantasy?More likeWarhammer.......... bad....
>>94833558we've been exposed, it's time to shut down /wfg/ forever
Now that I’ve properly based my giant, I don’t know what I want to do with him before he gets primed so I can paint him. The goal is to have him hold some resemblance to Polyphemus, or at least reference to him. I might cover up the other eye with greenstuff, and install a ball bearing into the forehead (which would be an eye), but beyond that I’m out of ideas. >TQAtlantis is cool and I like the armor the island of blood elves carry.
>TQYeah I'm thinking we're back
>decide to buy the first Gotrek & Felix Omnibus>wow this is actually pretty fun to read>Look up the next Omnibus on AmazonLet me guess, GW never reprints their books do they?
>>94833783I ran into the same problem with the official RuneScape books from like 2007. Faggots collectorbaiting sell them on ebay for like $200 now and I can't find rips of them to this day. Being a lore autist of any kind is a pain.
>>94833783>>94833806It’s in the mega but it drops off in quality quick so don’t say I didn’t warn you
>>94833489Each of the colours/schools of magic is basically just to bring models of the classic wizard archetypes into the game. White wizards are clerics, grey wizards are Gandalf, gold wizards are alchemists, etc. It's a bit strange that death magic and necromancy are distinct though. As for magic acting like an actual colour wheel? Not really. The different winds do mix together to form spells, but it's not like any lore is "between" two others, or a mix of them.
>>94834031Looks just like a gril in my med school class. Too bad I look like a fucking gnoblar
>>94834063anon you could have been the star of a hentai.
>>94834075Kek. I actually had a couple dates with a qt of that quality recently but it went nowhere. My autism is much more of a handicap than my goblinoid face
Give it to me straight: how is ToW doing sales wise? I love Warhammer Fantasy and really want to see it do well
>>94834119We don't know the exact numbers, but we can extrapolate that it's doing quite well. It's being played at my LGS and that's the only real metric that I care about.You shouldn't worry about sales. Paint some models, play some games and contribute instead.
>>94834119In the US, very well. Locally, my LGS has multiple TOW nights per week and has run a couple tournaments, meanwhile they made a throne out of the unsold Skaventide boxes as a gag and stopped buying new AoS stock because it just doesn't sell here. Supposedly AoS sells much better in the UK, probably in the faggier US cities as well.
>>94834119None of the boxes have sold out after dwarves in the US (most likely because they upped production for plastic), but aside from that we dont really know any figures. We can only really compare it to other side games like horus heresy and necrocum.
Bret characters are still sold out, what, 8 months later? My shipment from Chang will probably arrive by the time they restock.
>Black Orcs can't take Black Orc Boar Chariots unless they ally in a Nomadic Waaagh! Black Orc Bigboss (or Warboss) on a Black Orc Boar Chariot firstMild annoyance
>>94834275Take a second to imagine some taking a house key and jamming it down underneath your thumbnail. No reason, but just think about that for a second.
>>94834299Is this a gay British man's idea of being edgy?
>>94834303No. I just thought about it and wanted you to as well. And you did. Good boy :)
>>94834308Imagine being so cucked that you have to write legally innocuous innuendo for doing something mildly inconvenient to someone. Faggot ass country
>>94834318Zesty comment. Not from the UK btw ;)
>>94834340So you're just a faggot of your own volition then. I guess I can respect that. You're an odd one for sure
>all my friends play 40k or AoS at my LGS>try to get into AoS from 40k to be able to play more games, can't find an army or characters I really like, lore-wise>boomer LGS owner shows me his fucking SICK old Warhammer fantasy tomb kings army >fall in love with the bone, gold, and acrylic aesthetic but especially the Necrosphinx>spend the last two weeks doomscrolling the WF wiki, soaking up the lore and loving itI don't know why AoS doesn't hit these beats for me but WF reminds me so much of the older fantasy fiction I read as a kid, especially the Conan the Barbarian books in regards to the way it alludes to antediluvian places and names, that I can't help but love it. I'm sad I missed out on its heyday, but my LGS owner and I are both happy we found someone else who likes WF, at least. I really do believe GE made a mistake making things more "MMO-like" with sigmar, there's a certain classical fantasy tone here that hits so well that I haven't felt at all in the newer stuff. AoS reminds me of Kingdoms of Amalur or something, and that's not a good thing.
>>94834347Awful focused on another man having gay sex :O
>>94834350>WF reminds me so much of the older fantasy fiction I read as a kidIt was created by fantasy fans and metal heads from the 80s, so I'm not surprised it does.
>>94834350>try to get into AoS>can't find an army or characters I really like, lore-wiseI wonder why. If you're hungry for more WFB lore but not autistic enough for the books check out Book of Choyer, he does good lore stuff delivered in a WFRP-style way
If TOW died right now, would you still play it with the army books or move back to any other previous edition instead?
>>94834119My LGS liquidated everything this year because it sat on the shelves untouched for so long, and never restocked :(Pretty sure I was their sole TOW customer.
>>94834375thats uh, thats a big oof.
>>94834375No it didn't and it's not your picture.
>>94834374It won't, but if it died in TOW 4th or 5th edition or whatever I'd probably just stick with that unless my local group went back to classic WFB>94834375Concerntroll
>>94834403>>94834388Cope chuds
>>94834375Congrats, Anon. I'm sure you got some great deals
>>94834119It's doing well, but even if it weren't, that shouldn't stop you from playing whatever edition of WHF you want. I'm still playing 6th edition. There will always be people playing WHF.
>>94833783You can usually find new-old stock or basically-new copies of stuff on ebay for only a bit above RRP if you're a little patient, but yeah it's a pain in the arse innit. It's even better now where they do occasionally do reprints but they're always FOMO editions they only do one print run of and if you happen to have more in your life than obsessively monitoring GW's socials to plan what to buy next you might miss the second or third book in a series coming out. I doubt we'll get reprints of old Fantasy stuff now anyway, that ludicrous TOW novel they published clearly shows they intend to "update the IP for modern audiences" so things like heroic white males and women who do anything except save the day while exchanging quips with their black transfemme girlfiend or whatever will be as welcome as a fart at a dinner party.
>>94834101As a fellow autist I'll give you a tip anon, look for an overtly, performatively freaky one. In the same way that often quiet and shy-seeming chicks are actually legitimate psychofreaks in bed, a lot of the "I AM WOMAN BEND OVER AND HEAR ME ROAR" femdom types would really prefer a more typical modern equal-terms relationship and the leather & whip stuff is just a mask for her anxiety. The advantage of them is they tend to be a lot more comfortable being the one who makes moves and prompts you to give them what they want, rather than sitting there like a fucking Sphynx and expecting you to telepathically divine their wants and desires and then just walking away when you can't.You just have to play up the 'tism to hold off on sex until after she's past the phase where she'll try to peg you lol.
>>94834481>"I AM WOMAN BEND OVER AND HEAR ME ROAR" femdom typesKek. You might be onto something, I dated a militant lib feminist teacher in college and she had a surprisingly pleasant personality. And she was into my /fit/ stoic autism and found it endearing. The lib shit got very annoying though, I'm a massive chud.>play up the 'tism to hold off on sexNo problems there, I like to take things slow. I'm 90% sure that's what cost me that last qt I mentioned. If I wasn't a low self esteem sexual hangup cunt and just invited her back to my place she would've come.
>>94834481>"I AM WOMAN BEND OVER AND HEAR ME ROAR" femdom types>the phase where she'll try to peg you lol.It's fine to have your dreams and fantasies or whatever but you know this does not and has never existed, right?
>/wfg/>relationship advice from little toy soldier enthusiasts
>>94834552I wouldn't take advice from Anons but personally I'm in a successful relationship in 12 years and counting. It always baffles me how Anons are hell-bent on hiding their hobbies and acting like miniature wargaming is handicapping them. Most women were either mildly interested or at least friendly neutral towards my hobbies finding them oddly childish for someone of my type but generally harmless or even superior to watching games or playing vidya. Many were actually impressed when shown my armies in person since people that are not into wargaming have a hard time to imagine the scale. Crafty bitches seem to be naturally positive towards this kind of hobbies tho. I have a female co-worker that is into casual sculpting, 3D printing and jewellery-craft. She visited our place once and letting her into my hobby zone was like giving a fat kid a key to a candy shop. I think I could grab her by her chin and spit into her mouth and she wouldn't mind, she was totally bewitched.
>>94834617That's very cute but can we get back to what really matters - plastic little soldiers that is?
>>94834627Sure, feel free to post yours.
>TQI do not like High Elves.But the reveal looks fine. I'm sure if I did like them I'd be all up for the battalion box at least and in utter dread at what they're going to keep for Online Only sales.
>>94833517>TQThe battalion box is not bad but it failed to convince me to not buy Oathmark Infantry boxes instead.
>>94833517Khaine is one of the most compelling Gods in Warhammer Fantasy.>TQI'm fighting the urge to make a Caledor Army, but I'll see what they got in store first.
The HE battalion box seems pointless, again. Spearmen and regular archers don't seen good to me. I'd rather just spend the points on Lothern Sea Guard who are a bit better and are more expensive in points which lets me fill out Core easier.
>>94834689Battallion Box is not meant to give you a meta troop. Its meant to give you lots of basic infantry and something special for a good deal.
>>94833715Yes, you are right. I wouldn't blame NATO tho' - the whole eastern bloc narrative came from Soviet Union (us against them) - and NATO just accepted it for some reason. I guess it was a way to cope with guilt for selling half of Europe to Soviets against the will of those countries basically for trinkets and false promise of peace.
>>94834617Seconding this. Plenty of women can appreciate wargames stuff for the same reason nerds get bullied; crafting and painting tiny little things is a sterotypically feminine pursuit, and the subject being tanks and guns or whatnot doesn't change the underlying skills being used. Some don't like that, but plenty do.Here's my WIP pile; my wife's fit to tell me that she knows I'm just grinding through the Chaos Knights to get them done but that I really like the Marauder Giant, because she can tell which paintjob's being done with more care and attention.
>>94834762Thirding. My girlfriend isnt into nerd stuff at all but she likes my Warhammer, she appreciates the arts and crafts side of it (and thinks the art in the army books is sick). Being an artist herself she often gives me tips with regards to shading and colour mixing and whatnot. I even watch battle reports in her presence which she says she finds calming, like having a soap on in the background.The stigma around Warhammer only exists if you yourself are an insecure beta faggot.
The island of blood prints are my jam but I actually just want another island of blood. Paying $500 for 30 sea guard when I just want 10 is retarded. And my friends aren't gay enough to want to split high elves with me
>>94834689>core seems pointless>core is something to minimally "fill out" instead of being the CORE of your armyI think AoS is more your speed
So whom are the Knights Panther aligned with in TOW?I suspect the Wolfboys are Middenland.
>>94833602you could use warpaint: a line of tar covering his actual eyes and a rough eye symbol drawn in blood on his forehead
>>94834790Infantry is used more there than it is here.
>>94834796My army will have 132 infantry when it's finished, Inner Cities of Sigmar fields like 40 models total
>>94834796Core not being meta doesnt stop you from using lots of Core.Finally square bases are making a comeback and you feel obligated to make Monsterhammer 2.0 because the rules favor it. You have no ground to shit on 8th Ed or AoS if you are that metawhipped.
Are ogres fun to play?I bought a box of ogre bulls back in the day but never did anything with them
>>94834793the charecter you can get is the chapermaster of Middenheim which is always were the Panthers had the most power
>>94834834Middenheim gets so many important people!
>>94834790The only edition where people ever spent more than the absolute minimum on core was 8th.
>>94834814I wasn’t even the anon from before, but I do agree that the battalion boxes have been kind of lame. Chaos at least has the option of kitbashing everything in there, and I guess you own prettty much 1/3 of the dwarf range from the dwarf box (even if they are dwarves at the end of the day). The rest being core and mandatory chariots is lame.
>>94834793I think every Empire faction which has strong Sigmar influence can take them, but i dont they can't fight alongside White Wolves.
>>94834844*can
>>94833961>It's a bit strange that death magic and necromancy are distinct though.death/shyish magic IS technically necromancy as its spells allow the wizard to commune with dead spiritsit's not ultraevil necromancy because it doesn't involve enslaving souls to your will and raising undead, they could do that but it's taboo in their orderall other winds of magic probably have a similarly extreme version that's mixed with dark magic and achieves their taboos >dark azyr: tzeentch-like forceful rewriting of fate>dark ghyran: nurgle-like swarm magic>dark ghur: actual mutations and beastmen>dark aqshy: letting oneself become a living meltdown wizard>dark chamon: using living beings in alchemical exchanges and creating artificial life>dark ulgu: straight up mind control>dark hysh: magical intelligences reaching singularity and forming a hive mind with wizards? I'm grasping at straws here
>>94834789>Now you remember GW released a reprint of IoB for AoS priced like a Start Collecting boxI remember buying them for 60eur each and then reselling them 4 years later for 3-4 times more.
her mini will never live up to waifufags's expectations
>>94834836well it's one of the Empire's oldest cities and a head of one of the second largest religions in the Empire, the only thing it doesn't have going for it is being situated near a river navigatable by boats and barges
>>94834894I just need the basic Chinese stuff to kitbash my own cultivation army to attract real jade beauties
>>94833489 Beasts and Life have some interesting connections and even have a Combo spell that uses both winds(by two separate wizards) to do it
>>94834870Sucks that we're probably getting that style of clanrats when we get Skaven back. I don't even particularly like Skaven, but these guys are just peak Warhammer to me for some reason.
>>94834894Noone expects GW to sculpt an attractive female, no worries. Thats wha 3D Print Studios are for.
>>94834901You know I dig the art and the vibes of it and all... but that doesnt seem like a viable city to live in and operate a business in.
>>94834924I have like 40 of them and I love them. I bought them for pennies in the past years to build a retro Warcry warband. Now that I have a new playgroup I use them for Mordheim.>we're probably getting that style of clanrats when we get Skaven backNope. We are getting the IoB style of Clanrats since AoS got updated ones last year. Currently there is no overlap between IoB minis and AoS Skaven range so I expected Skaven to be brought back with an IoB re-re-release.
>>94834844Both White Wolves and Knights Panther have ties with Middenheim. The difference is, Wolves are templars, while Panthers are secular. But their loyalities totally lie with Middenheim, they are even personal guard of Middenheim elector counts.
>>94834894goodhag characters > sexy girlbosses
>>94834836really want to see someone try to paint this model with those Blanche paints from Army Paints since an original Blanche piece very much inspires it but all YouTubers tested those paints put on Kreig models
>>94834931no middenheim doesn't make much sense if you stop and think about how much food must go through those causeways every day just to feed the city, doesn't help that the city it is rather inconsistently portrayed sometimes it's on top of plateau sometimes it's the side of a mountain
>>94834954It would just result in a huge market sprawl popping up outside the city.
>>94834814You can use lots of core if you want, the fact is that even for core there are better options for each faction than what the battalion boxes give you. For HElves you have Silver Helms, Ellyrian Reavers and Lothern Sea Guard as core to compete against regular spearmen and archers.
>>94834964you would still need porters to transport it back up the mountain, those Causeways are miles long and merchants in the city would probably depend on the graf import a severe hike in taxes for people selling goods alongside the causeway without a licence or something
>>94834954Middenheim has some kind of rope elevator system and even ropeway that is used to transport goods and people actually.
>>94834978It would be hell either way.>>94834981Unlikely that a rope elevator can handle the necessary logistics to feed what, 30k people? Nevermind actually providing any other goods to them.
>>94834988You are forgetting that there are also mages that can teleport shit into the city and levitate huge loadouts.
>>94834981that does exist but it would be really expensive(1 gold coin per Chest of goods) remember it is still a long way up
>>94835001So what, theres working man Mages teleporting cabbages and wool into Middenheim from 9 to 5?
>>94835001outside of WoC Warhammer especially WFRP doesn't like to just magic away logisticsand remember Magic is not always the most reliable thing in Warhammer even if Middenheim is a city known for it's more relaxed attitude about compared to other cities
Calling the map finished. Couldn't think of anything thats missing, only added a small training block in the courtyard.Anyone else created OC locations for Warhams?
the Battle Wizard model sold out very fast in the UK
>>94835021it's the best out of the 3
>>94835025a lot of people did like the Elementalist or at least the Frog Familer model
>>94835025I like the Necromancer, though I wonder how they are even accepted in the Empire.
>>94835013I don't know, maybe. It seems somehow Middemheim is logistically secured. Maybe between magic, elevators and bridges there's enough capacity to provide food for the inhabitants.
>>94835041Thats not the question, the question how much of a herculean task it would be to get functional logistics to a place like that means everything would be twice as expensive as in Altdorf for example, which basically explains why Altdorf is a metropolis and Middenheim is a salty rock full of bitter Magnates.
>>94835033Since Empire is in anarchy, many things just flow by under the radar or are deliberately overlooked. But I really doubt there are many necromancers in cities where templar knights or witchhunters have their headquarters. On the other hands, "enlightened" cities like Nuln probably allow them to pratice - for the same reason Sweden allows mass immigration.
>>94835021What the fuck, pre-orders are finally available for Australia and this guy is out of stock from the get-goGet your shit together GW and reserve stock levels
>>94835050Nuln along with Altdorf irconically seems to be one of the few cities in the Empire that doesn't have some form of magic school at this point, Middenheim, Talabheim, and even Marianburg(going by the AJ) all have places where people learn magic in them during TOW time period
>>94835054NZ had them 12 hours ago so you should have had the chance to ordered them earlier as well
>>94835050Nuln is the homebase of Morrs fanboys, I doubt they would appreciate Necromancers.It's more likely a Necromancer slinks around in Marienburg or Ostland where people got bigger trouble or characters of all sorts frequent anyhow.
>>94835061isn't Morr cult based in Luccini a Tilean city?
>>94835044Middenheim is a capital and provides security. Money, food and other goods naturally flow to it, either as taxes or just import. Sure, there will be things that will be more expensive than in Altdorf - but that's normal. Prices do differ between the cities, otherwise trade for profit wouldn't be possible. Plus I'm pretty sure there are mines in Faushlag, where middenheimers (dwarfs mostly) dig out gold, metal and precious stones.
>>94835060There's 0 announcement from GW, they basically expected us to check it sporadically and get lucky
>>94835065Thats their headquarter. But Nuln is also big on Morr.
>>94835067the Faushlag is also filled with Skaven, ghouls mutants criminals ect. the Middenheim books don't really treat it as a place of active mining by the dwarfs
>>94833517Why are you using such dogshit arts for the thread? Have you nothing better?
>>94835091I think its alright actually.
Imrik's lance on Miao Ying's minge.
>>94835089Yes, but it's also suggested that dwarfs still mine stuff there and because of that they keep the cadre of tunnel warriors. Plus it's different age, hundreds of years before Karl Franz, skaven are busy fighting each other, chaos is in the process of chosing new champion etc.
>>94835033A few main reasons reasons>Magic's illegal anyway and people most people don't see the difference between hedge magic and dark magic anyway. People are either going to kill you for being a witch or look the other way if they need magic help>Necromancy in old world refers to any use of death magic, including the completely normal use of Shyish, basically some of the Necromancers are effectively just amethyst wizards >A lot of wizards think they're priests using divine magic, so there's probably a few of these Necromancers who both view themselves and are viewed by the populace as Priests of Morr
>>94834933These >>94834870 are IoB clan rats.
>>94835082But there's University of Nuln - and in such places there's more intelectual freedom than elsewhere - and I can totally imagine that there's a bunch of necromancers studying dark arts under the protective wings of the university in the name of knowledge, scientific freedom and other ideals such as those.
>>94834933>IoB re-re-release.they have no reason to bring back IoB for the skaven side, skaven already had a multi kit for the clanrats on that style, so no need of the etb ones, and they don't really need to bring back the rat ogres since TOW revels in groggery of the old plastic sculpts and they may as well offer the even older metal onesthe only real loss from not using IoB would be the mortar weapon team, but that's one small unit that the skaven range has lived without and can live without
What powerlevel is he at?
What are some good Swains to bring to a Lahmia 6th ed appendix army? I have some Greatswords and I was going to use one as an Empire Captain but honestly it just seems like a downgrade from a Wight Lord. Fluff wise its cool though at least.
>>94835301fun fact, Tassets were absolutely loathed by the average soldiery because they chafe against the thighs during a march, which is what soldiers were doing 98% of the time. So they often took them off.
>>94833517Beastmen when?
>>94835343march at the earlyistwe still have the Empire MTO and the High elf release to go but I have heard a rumour that high elves were delayed again so maybe Beastmen will be released first
>>94835198No they are not. Old IoB-era Clanrats got updated with the Skaventide release last year. All you have to do is to check the GW store.>>94835225>they have no reason to bring back IoB for the skaven sideYes they have. It would be a good way of introducing a cheap 2-player set with next to not cost on GW side since IoB moulds paid themselves 120 times already.
>>94835355>It would be a good way of introducing a cheap 2-player setwhich they evidently don't want to do compared to army sets meant for one army where they also sell you moulds that have paid themselves 240 times over and at an inferior overall discount
>>94835351it'd be hilarious if HE got delayed twice because of the resculpted ellyrian reavers
>>94835351I doubt it, they don't do things logically like that at GW, if one thing gets delayed they just push everything back even though it would probably be easier to just swap round release dates. Like when Imperialis got delayed they didn't swap its release with Old World they just pushed Old World back.
>>94835439they swapped the High elf and Empire release
>>94835355>No they are notSpire of Dawn is literally a repacked Island of Blood, so yes they are the same clanrats.
I'd rather have the old VC back than fucking Cathay
>>94835480You either misunderstood my post or didn't open the attached picture.
>>94835491in due time, both will be available
Was it necessary to redo the elyrian reavers? the Island of Blood ones were already great
>>94835495>Somebody posts IoB clanrats>I reply with "sucks that we're probably getting that (IoB) style of clanrats">You reply with "Nope. We are getting the IoB style of Clanrats"Yeah I really don't understand
>>94835508the island of blood ones were locked in the island of blood spruestaking them out requires a new mould, and since they're doing that might as well add extra poses and the full command group, which is what they did
>>94835508Weren't the IoB reavers only five miniatures with no command?That might be why they did so they could include those in a boxthey did the same to the Swordmasters
>>94835522the different colour scheme might be tricking people on the actual amount of differences
>>94835543also GW saying they were completely resculpted as well
>>94833961Slight contradiction; each colour is Superior to it's anticlockwise partner, and Inferior to its clockwise. IIRC there used to be dispel bonuses and penalties accordingly, and I think in Man O War the magic became its own little minigame of only being able to dispel magic cards with the appropriate colour; I am probably misremembering here though, likely it was similar dice roll adjustments. High and Dark were weird as I think they were simultaneously superior and inferior to all the others but I can't recall how that played out in-game.
>>94835522They did have full command but yes, it was only 5 monopose miniatures
>>94835522>swordmastersI didn't see that in the first time, seems like there's an alternate banner, trumpet and champion's weapon. That's neat
>>94835555seems so but GW didn't say they "resculpted" that kit like they did for the reavers
>>94835491>5th/6th ed vampire characters>5th ed ghouls>7th ed skeletonsthe dream
>>94835543The new ones seem to have less detail. At least in the heads. But the legs make it look like the rider and horse are still a single piece and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of pose variation to themIdk, feels like they could have made a couple extra guys and just packed them with the IoB ones instead of remaking the unit like they've done with the swordmasters
>>94835033>>94835171Yeah I'd argue the Shyish mages who don't go deep into dark magic/necro have favourable relations with the Morr cult. I'd say this is implied given that the Knightly Orders AoI the Knights of Morr (along with Blazing Sun) can include mages in their army. So while the Sigmarites and Ulricans don't like Magic, the fact the Empire is divided means there's no single authority that can relaibly string all the mages up, so you have areas more remote from Altdorf and Middenheim where mages have more leeway. We'd probably see something similar with the Taal/Rhya cult and Life/Beast mages in Talabecland. I'd argue Wissenland is also more liberal, partly because of proximity to Tilea where I don't know if there is a prejudice against magic, and also the Emperor who legalises and organised magic in the Empire (Magnus) comes from Nuln iirc.
>>94835563These are a pretty weird choice too. They made a new banner, music instrument and champion sword but they go on the same old command group?It looks neat but it's kinda weird that they only did it for this one unit
>>94835033Guess it depends on multiple things>How desperate you are to employ a wizard to have the magical support>If they actually reanimate corpses or if they just consult spirits for divination
>>94835171More on this point, when Teclis and his buddies when on their 'magic user scouting/hunting' through the Empire iirc they would leave alone the Priests who didn't know they were actually practicing magic, instead of pressganging them against their will. So there's clearly some precedent in the lore that some priests didn't know they were actually doing magic. That's an interesting part of the Altdorf colleges, it sets down a man(elf)made ruling on how magic works and what magic actually is, but ultimately it's a simplification (a necessary one) of how the Helves use magic that's not going to be a perfect representation of how magic REALLY works. And owing to that, post the Altdorf colleges people probably got it in their head there was a sharp division between Magic and Divine influence because they're already conditioned to see Magic as falling in the prescribed colours. I am 99% certain I am right about the Teclis scouting leaving alone miracle workers but I don't remember what book it's mentioned in.
>>94835033normal necromancy is consulting the dead, not controlling the deada necromancer would also be useful when dealing with ghosts to placate it or drive it away, which might be why this model has morr iconography: if you have necromantic talent and are not an asshole you do get further in touch with your god of the underworld perhaps the religious institution of the cult of morr itself ended up sheltering the good ones
>>94835625>>94835610>>94835591>necromancer dindu nuffin!I mean, ignoring the literal kid skeleton
>>94835623>Teclis scouting leaving alone miracle workersnot a bad callit's already hard enough to change one nation's perspective regarding a feared minority of magic users, let alone trying to revolutionise all their religions by calling into question their saints and priests
>>94835633that's a familiar, not a real skeleton, more like a little skeleton shaped demon
>>94835648>more like a little skeleton shaped demonHow is that at all better?
>>94835665it can be whisked away leaving people wondering if they were merely having a hallucination
>>94833961sure ive read about the perception of magic (volans) and mixing magic (schreiber), but thats all just exposition. to contrast, p22 of the 4th ed empire book has a fluff explanation of the hellfire volley gun immediately before a rules summary, and they're describing the exact same process in slightly different terms>>94835549thats what ive been trying to find. have some man o war rulebooks and storm of chaos supplement coming in the mail. which edition had the penalty and bonuses? i have the 4th ed battle magic, arcane magic, and 5th ed warhammer magic supplements, but don't recall that being in there
did they "resculpted" the imperial troops aswell to remove all the karl franz stuffs or they just didn't bother
Cathay when?
>>94835733Spring
>>94835729how much was written on them in the first place?
>>94835729there's no KF icons on the state troops but not sure if they ever had them, the only other sprue they changed was the general and banner I think.
>>94835491>”ew”
>>94835733Never, secondary
I only want the Bretonnian foot lord but for some reason I doubt fate will be kind to me today.
>>94835733Soon, primary.
>>94835745Nice. Hope they make a Miao Ying model.
>>94835885I think they're more likely to show off some of the dragon siblings that aren't in the total war games, honestly. That one that overseas the navy would fit thematically
>>94835898That's true. Would also be cool.
>>94835916The water and fire dragons sounded coolest to me and neither seem to be coming to total war anytime soon so they're my hope for the launch characters for Cathay. I bet the dragon models will be awesome.Also they probably aren't coming in Spring. End of 2025 at the earliest.
>>94835898>That one that overseas the navy would fit thematicallynot sure about that, the east and the west are way less connected, navally speaking, than they were in real lifeit's one thing for them to control the eastern sea, reach the southlands or lustria, it's another to reach the old world, especially with the high elves having an effective monopoly and the sour sea being so far from the old world and its seasunless there's a convenient undersea route accessible in there or someone connected the sour sea to the blight river
>>94836026>inb4, cathay converts its seagoing vessels to skyfaring vessels
>>94836041That’s just a Aos model
>>94835864the Resin one released today?he still up on the UK store the only thing sold out so far is the Battle mage and Gnome
>>94836026True. But GW seems to want to focus The Old World on The Old World and high elves are only there because of their colonies and navy, so I imagined Cathay's inclusion would have similar reasoning.>>94836041TOW Cathay being the airship faction would actually be really cool.
>>94836055Sadly I'm American and the US store has been total shit for Bretonnian characters so far.
>>94834954You do realize you've just said that walled cities don't make any sense, right? Because *all* walled cities feature a handful of chokepoint gates at the end of long, often difficult roads that goods need to traverse to reach them.American or Londoner?
>>94836060>airship faction>coolNo. Fuck off. Die. Your home is thataway faggot >>>> /aosg/
>>94834790If something is required by the rules for you to take, having them perform just as well as everything else in your army is counter intuitive.
>>94836124Uh oh found the dawi player
>>94836060Flying models in general aren't very fun to play against. I don't want warhammer fantasy to have more of them. The gyrocopter is already bad enough.
>>94836096most cities don't have chokepoints that go for literal miles on precarious heights with no railings or other safety features.let's take Edinburgh as an example since a lot of the writers have taken that as an example of inspiration for Middenheim.the Old Town of Edinburgh is mostly on the Castle Rock but its market was the Grassmarket and the Cowgate which is a lower valley this was the main area for trade due to ease of access to the rest of the city even though it was still in the wall(Flodden wall), Middenheim doesn't have a location like that
>>94835351They're already announcing the model release, they'll aren't going to leapfrog at this point
The sooner beastmen come out, the sooner they can collect dusts in shelves, and the sooner I can buy beastmen for $1 per model.
>>94836200People are already selling their AoS Beasts of Chaos collections for cents.
>>94836253are these AoS players that don't too rebase their models?
>>94836275I'm don't understand your question, perhaps you are having a stroke. I assume that you mean people should simply rebase their minis and play TOW. I suspect that if you sign up for a non-RnF game that requires 50-60 minis, then switching to a rank-and-file game that requires 100-150 models is hardly a tempting solution. Considering that most Warhammer players refuse to believe that for every GW game that exists there are at least 10 better alternatives, selling your collection and starting a new army or dropping the hobby altogether is a valid choice.
Why the hell did the TOW map bloat the Moot so much?Its supposed to be a minor backwater surrounded on 3 sides by Stirland, notably isolated from Sylvania and bordering on Averland on one side.
>>94836437Halflings Meme Supreme
>>94836437this is before the ethnic cleansing of hairfoots
>>94836479Did General Hermann march from the river to the World Edge mountains and burn his way through the Moot?
>>94836437tbf to GW artist on this one>>94835044 by C7 also does the same thing by increasing the Moots size by giving it land that doesn't belong to them.outside of the Stirland map or the map in Nights Dark Masters, and the original Blood in the Streets for WFB2e very few things cover that area in any detail so it's a rather forgotten part of the empire both in-universe and out it's stands to reason some cartographer would just forget that land is owned Stirland and assume it was owned by the Moot.
>Even Fatshark got Kemperbads location correct>TOW team can't
>have 1000pts of khorne daemons for small games>struggling for paintscheme of flesh houndshow the hell am I gonna paint these things? I dont want them to be in the same shade of red as my bloodletters etc, and I cant think of a dark pinkish red like the GW schemeanyone have any red recommendations?
>>94833517>Now you've had some time to digest it, thoughts of the High Elf reveal and shit?Very very solid. Some high elf character models I would like to see back (prince althran on foot/griffon, the axe prince) but on the whole its very nice.I do wonder if this means the merwyrm isnt coming back, not that im super invested in HE getting another monster, but because I would have really expected it to come back. Might also mean beastmen wont get the preyton/fimir/incarnate of beasts or whatever once its their turn.
>>94836637Very dark with bright accents on the frills.
>>94836637Vermillion Red with ochre and ivory?
>>94836437>>94836504From the river to the sea! Greater-Mootland is our goal! (and we control your Emperor-elect)
>>94836743imagine getting your shit kicked in by some averlanders that you need to agree to a ceasefire so you save face from looking like even more of a joke
>>94835491VC will NEVER come back. Go play AoS.
>>94836766Waiting to put a pre-order on that new army box desu.
>>94836766They'll be the first Legacy faction re-introduced. Seethe.
>>94836790Nah it’s gotta be demons. Demons or bust.
>>94836766Soulblight Gravelords/Flesheater Courts and Vampire Counts are almost separate model lines now. I think the only crossover is the Corpse Cart, Mortis Engine, Terrorgheist, Ghouls and Crypt Horrors. New FEC book might fix 3 of those next year.At that point VC can totally be put back in.DE and Ogres just need a squattening event like the 4E launch, AoS has done fuck all with them outside of Witch Elves.
do you think AoS will get rid of dryads in sylvaneth, because dryads are in old world?no wood elf book yet (and dryads have been pictured in wood elf army photos) nor a sylvaneth book
>>94836041that's a thunderbarge
>>94836861Nighthaunt still have some crossover though. Banshees, Spirit Host and Hexwraiths.
>>94833517>Now you've had some time to digest it, thoughts of the High Elf reveal and shit?They didn't bring back the metal hero moels.Those were the only ones I needed.
>>94835549The most recent background has the pokemon-style winds of magic superiority/inferiority system as a theory devised by Supreme Patriarch Paranoth (?) who designed the current version of the wheel of magic. Subsequent research has shown that he was talking out of his arse, but the wheel design remains.>>94836175Middenheim does have markets and such outside the Fauschlag. It's called Warrenburg. I assume that's where a lot of the trade goes on. There's also an aqueduct bringing in water from the east and there are probably steam cranes if we go by Altdorf and Vermintide.
>>94836994Give it some time buddy, they were only just revealed. The old HE roster released over the span of 20 years, you'll manage to waith 2 or 3 for the full range to be reintroduced.
>>94836994are you implying they won't be 'made to order' like ulthers to then be immediately unavailable againalso, which are you missing? the faction was always quite popular and they were in circulation for a long time
>>94837082Warrenburg is a slum it's a very poor location where the locals live off being Gong Famers or scavengers with an increased amount of tanneries, dyers, and fillers moving down to Warrenburg
>>94837184>are you implying they won't be 'made to orderProbably will be, just took the line about three metal models coming back to indicate that that was that.>which are you missing?These ones, basically.
>>94837185Sure, no one with money wants to live outside the walls in beastman murder land. But it's got the space and the access for livestock markets and so on.
>>94836994We don't know yet the Made to Order right ?
>>94835033This is worth the readinghttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l0jgjaih/old-world-almanack-and-for-our-next-trick/
I got Gastonne, so I'm content. I hope Empirebros are able to get what they want today.
>>94837397Interesting, so Reikland Lists are discouraged from taking Mages while Talabecland has some leeway and Middenheim as always does their own thing.
>>94837436Does he come with alternate helmets?
>>94837457I'll post a pic of the sprue when he arrives
400 pts for items/weapon/armour/extra option choices a decent rough estimate in a 2000 pt army?
>>94837490Might even be a bit much, but yea, should be more than enough.
>>94837497Ok cheers, just want a safe estimate really so I can have room for all the options then fill the army out with extra unitsTOW btw if there's much difference between that and 8th
