>How do you shuffle your deck?
Poorly to be honest. I feel like I'm always seeing the same cards in the same clusters.

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>>94855979
I mana weave and pretend to shuffle. Of course other people cut.

>>94855979
>How do you shuffle your deck?
Standard mash a dozen or so times. If I'm feeling up to it, I'll deal out nine piles of eleven cards and mash those up into a whole deck.
>Do people cut decks in you group?
We almost always offer, yes.

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I really love the art on some of these coammder masters set
>TQ
I usually do a stack shuffle at the start of play just to make sure I'm not missing anything, then I just do that meld the sleeves into the sleeves a few times then some block cuts and present for a cut,

I have friends that do really annoying things. One guy bridges, and one guy fucking mana shuffles before EVERY GAME then shuffles in a normal way 10 times.
Its beyond retarded.

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>>94855979
>TQ
Pile shuffle at start of game, mash shuffle for any searches during the game. Offer cut at the LGS with randos, don't bother with friends.

>>94855979
Mana weave the cards i played with after every game and then shuffle normal style

>TQ
I bridge shuffle my unsleeved decks a few times. People in my pod cut decks but I often ask the one guy who doesn't, as a running gag

>>94856024
>Standard mash a dozen or so times. If I'm feeling up to it, I'll deal out nine piles of eleven cards and mash those up into a whole deck.
fun fact, if you have 2 commanders you can 7 pile and its even

>>94856036
>I bridge shuffle my unsleeved decks a few times.
I dunno why but this made me laugh too much. Too real for a boomer like me I suppose

>>94856037
That fact wasn't fun at all.

>>94855979
I do gentle side riffles because my card handling is a little slow, I don't want to bore other people waiting for me to finish randomizing my deck (the goal, after all, of shuffling is to produce uncertainty and variance, not to perfectly redistribute every card in the deck every time; as long as I don't know what I'm drawing and groups of synergistic cards from previous play aren't always clumped together, that's more than sufficient), usually twice, cutting in between and then after. I mostly play with people I know, but at a card shop I try to always remember to offer cuts.

I'll pile shuffle a few times after making any deck alterations or sometimes just to have something to do between games, either into 9 piles of 11 or 11 piles of 9.

>friend plays commander that always wins if it untaps
>just ramps to it asap and slaps it down without protection
>if we blow it up he gets really sad

>>94856090
correct

>>94856090
Some people would really rather play group show and tell.

>>94855979
>TQ:

at the start of the game ill mash shuffle 8 times then every time after including for mulls ill usually mash 3 times.

ill offer one or two cuts towards the beginning of the game then just start cutting it myself. there are so many stupid ass rituals people perform that slow the game down, asking for cuts every single shuffle in a game where we're not playing for prizes is one of them.

>>94856090
What's the commander they're running just for curiosity sake?

>>94856118
Has to be sisay? There's no other commander i can think of that can simply win via one activation

>>94855979
>How do you shuffle your deck?
Overhand like everyone. Anyone claiming to shuffle any differently is lying and is trying to pre-empt the argument that normal shuffling doesnt truly randomize a deck
>Do people cut decks in you group?
God no. Who fucking cares? If you're enough of a sweat to cheat in a casual game, I'll probably stop playing with you based on the bullshit in your deck anyway
>>94856035
When I have done this to practice decks I have found that it usually mana screws me

>>94851363
how the fuck does one go from
>vehicle and artifacts
to
>blowing/locking lands

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I've played a few commander precons, but I never brewed my own deck and this is something I'd like to do eventually. Any tips where to start? Should I limit myself to mono-colored decks at first? What tools do you use besides Scryfall? My problem with the latter is that older cards feature different wording and when I'm looking for some mechanic in particular, I only get recent cards. How do you guys fix this? Or do I just do multiple searches for the same mechanic only using different wording? I'm relatively new so I'm not accustomed to cards from older sets.

Do you suggest I begin with Pauper Commander? This would limit my card pool to commons which are arguably simpler in design.

Any resources you suggest? Blogs, YT videos, etc.

See you in the command zone

>>94855979
Usually split in half, shuffle each half, then mash both halves together, and gice it a big shuffle. At the end of the night or if my deck is ordered for pictures or whatever I'll pile shuffle it first, than do that.

I always cut. Just helps my autism. After I know you arent cheating I'll tap your deck unless you mystic remora t1 three games in a row.

>>94856136
Liquimetal coating + Sydri’s first ability. Vehicles is a bitch way to run it though.

>>94856182
>Should I limit myself to mono-colored decks at first?
No mono-color is underpowered in Commander, you'll have a bad time because you just don't have as many answers as you need. Monoblue is pretty much the only viable one, although monored has become common because Krenko is busted.
2 or 3 colors is probably easiest.
>What tools do you use besides Scryfall?
EDHREC, search your commander, choose a deck tag and then see what it recommends. Then make your deck slightly differently depending on what cards you can't get, what's out of your budget, what pet cards you want to include etc etc
>Do you suggest I begin with Pauper Commander?
Fuck no, that isn't a real format and you're just going to be completely outclassed by even normal precons.

>Any resources you suggest? Blogs, YT videos, etc.
No not really. You're not going to find any information there that you won't find on EDHREC unless it's some retard doing a meme list that you want to copy.

Just pick your colors on EDHREC, scroll the top couple hundred commanders until you find one you like.

>>94856215
whether your that anon or not.
ever considered not doing that if your opponents didnt like that to the point of taking the deck apart?

>>94856182
>where to start
look at every card from foundations and duskmourne in your colors because power creep is real and there will be some 50 cent cards in there that make or break decks

>Every week friend shows up to the pod with a banned card in his deck which he didn't know was banned.
I don't know whether he is trying to sneak stuff in, or if he is legit too retarded to check his cards before he puts them in.

>>94855979
>How do you shuffle your deck?
Mana weave all the cards I played during the game that just ended. Then shuffle everything together.
>Do people cut decks in you group?
Always. It's suspicious as fuck if you don't want your deck cut. It's pretty much admitting you're cheating

>>94856246
>mono bad
>edhrec good
>>94856182
Scryfall is the best, the advanced search option will search via oracle text which should catch the majority of the older cards you might miss. But i also still do various searches because wotc is gay and some old cards won't have any erratic despite doing a very common basic thing. Per deck i will usually look at around 1000 cards, which seems a lot but takes 15 minutes.
I'd start with 1 or 2 colour so as to be able to focus your building a bit more more colours gives you more options and the ability to have your deck get away from you arises.
I would only ever check EDHREC if your deck has a few slots to fill, because there is always a chance you missed a banger card and that should solve that
>resources
There's a few good YouTube channel that are definitely worth watching if only for a different and explained perspective on the game/building but also for fun deep cut cards

>>94856132
>Overhand like everyone.
I have literally never seen anyone overhand shuffle an EDH deck.
>Anyone claiming to shuffle any differently is lying
Blow it out your ass. I prefer to riffle, but I'll mash if the sleeves are good. Never overhand.

>>94856274
This isnt bad advice but pretty uninformed. You'd wanna look at BLB and MH3. Foundations is specifically designed to be a long lasting contribution to standard and not overly powerful and duskmourne is largely a mid set

>>94856182
>>94856291
>I would only ever check EDHREC if your deck has a few slots to fill, because there is always a chance you missed a banger card and that should solve that
This anon is just a turbosperg who thinks you're not building a deck properly if you don't do it from scratch yourself.
The unfortunate reality is the EDHREC hits most of the best cards for your commander. Yes there are always going to be cards that don't get shown because not enough people have clocked a synergy, but as a starting point EDHREC is the best place

Honestly telling a new player who is building his first deck NOT to use that site is just fucking malicious. If you think the site is a crutch, then you should understand that's exactly what a fucking new player needs.

>>94856333
>properly
Nope, but you aren't building it yourself as you admit!
>malicious
No lol you can't just attribute stuff because your solipsism is being challenged you moron
>ehdrec hits the best cards
And leaves you not knowing how to use scryfall. When I returned to magic I looked at every single card ever printed in chronological order, to see how colours were and developed to find interesting ones id like to build around, to find cool synergies etc. Took me a couple of hours not much time at all and left me with a deep knowledge of the game and a very good scryfall ability.

Its an age old parable, teach a man to fish or give him a fish.

>>94856182
PLAY
ARENA
For a better grasp on when you can cast spells, reasons you might not be able to when you think you can, and priority / holding priority (effectively done with ctrl). The Command Zone gets flack for giving a skeleton of a deck structure, but take note of it and why it may be cohesive and tweak decks around it.
The difficulty of what you make is mostly determined by if you commander DOes a THING to DRAW a CARD. The less colors a deck has, the easier the manabase is for it, but you'll lose extra value/synergy for not having colors.

>>94856182
>Any tips where to start?
Step 1: find a commander/deck theme that you really like
Step 2: plug the commander into edhrec.com and look at all the best cards to run with it
Step 3: use scryfall advanced search for any specific cards/ideas you want/need
>Should I limit myself to mono-colored decks at first?
No, mono colored decks are weaker than others. 2 colors is a great starting point
>My problem with the latter is that older cards feature different wording
Yeah shit's fucking annoying. Having to break my habit of searching for "enters the battlefield" took longer than I liked
>How do you guys fix this?
Practice. Over time you just learn the new errata text that Wizards uses
>Or do I just do multiple searches for the same mechanic only using different wording?
Definitely a good idea.
>Any resources you suggest?
Honestly? Edhrec does such a great job already for suggesting cards you need/should be running. Just don't tryhard it and buy all the expensive as fuck cards

>>94856333
What a fucking new player needs is to be starting in a 60-card format.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

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>>94856251
Mine’s still together, I only blow up problem lands and that’s it.

>>94856182
Take a precon you like and try upgrading it. This is the best first step to learning how to deckbuild.

>>94856363
>you aren't building it yourself as you admit!
I haven't admitted shit. If repeatedly called EDHREC a starting point, and in the very fucking post you replied to I said you adjust the recommendations based on what you can get and what pet cards you want to include.
>When I returned to magic I looked at every single card ever printed in chronological order, to see how colours were and developed to find interesting ones
Yeah, already clocked you as a turbosperg, no need to scream it from the rooftops.

A new player just needs a functional deck and an easy way to find the cards that suit his commander without dedicating hours of his life figuring out and memorizing every possible string of words that could produce the effect he wants.
You're giving bad advice because you are insanely biased on what you think is the "correct" way to deck build.

>>94856370
See what I mean this here is a perfect example of an EDHRectard being completely unable to use scryfall and fuck he doesn't even know the game. Things are put into the graveyard, you only enter the battlefield, you would never have to search "enters the battlefield" because "enters" will give you the exact same results. This is just the larping of a retarded boomer

>>94856378
Nah I got into Magic through commander and draft. As the most popular format, most players are actually not even touching 1v1s and 60 card formats.
Get with the times gramps

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>>94856363
>When I returned to magic I looked at every single card ever printed in chronological order
oh my fucking god dude just how autistic ARE you??? Jesus christ please stop giving advice, no one else here is nearly as much of a sperglord as you are

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Got this guy recently for cheap, thoughts on him?

>>94856414
It's okay oldman. No one is threatening your way of life. EDHREC is ten times better for a beginner than learning Scryfall syntax. You don't have to like it but you do need to accept it

>>94856402
You quite literally said the words
>not building it yourself from scratch
Which I never said nor did my post even approach suggesting such a thing, which tells us this is also how YOU feel retardo
>a new player needs
To understand the game he's playing, to understand the cards he might come up against, and how to find things out for himself.

You want to give a man a fish I want to teach him to fish, which is always superior device. You're just a lazy nigger who doesn't actually care about the game

>>94856414
lmao go back to playing revised with your buttbuddies no one fuckin cares dude

>>94856428
gay furry, at least he can't be your commander like in brawl

>>94856333
This.

>>94856363
>Its an age old parable, teach a man to fish or give him a fish.
You arent giving him the fish by letting him use EDHrec, you're letting him use a fishing rod instead of slapping the salmon out of the river like a grizzly. Edhrec is an excellent resource for very new players, and essentially useless for anyone beyond mid power. In fact, almost all commander resources are useless outside of very general outlines from primers.

The best teacher is actually playing. Over time you'll learn more than you ever could by reading anything, and being a massochist about it is only helpful as a monk-like exercise in dedication to your craft. Play the deck, take out bad cards, put in good cards, repeat. This is the only path to the highest levels, and there is no reason not to use every tool at your disposal to get there if that's what you want.

>>94856426
No, no, I did the same thing. Well, except for black because I have no interest in playing it.

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>>94856246
>No mono-color is underpowered in Commander
Uhh

>>94856384
i considered her for my leftover vehicle pile, but i guess i need to wait what Aetherdrift brings

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>>94855979
>Buy Stella precon when it came out cuz I wanted an izzet deck
>learn that all she does is go infinite with an untap spell which is boring to me
>remake precon into Bria because I have a small brain and just want to attack people with creatures
>Try it out for the first time last weekend and destroyed the table the two games I played it

I'm still not sure if the deck is consistent or I got lucky draws but it was the first time I got to walk away from a casual commander night as the big winner. Also Roar of Resistance did so much work for me I love this card now.

>>94856462
Vehicles are a bitch way to run her, as previously stated.

>>94856426
>learning about the game you want to play is bad
Not following here. It is literally the bare minimum in starting a hobby, learning about the tools it requires.
>>94856432
It's not though? Like objectively it's not it doesn't teach you anything at all.
>>94856444
>shown to be a moron
>poorly try and deflect
You'll need to try harder.
>>94856449
EDHRec is objectively analogous to giving him the fish yes. The "rod" is attached to a barrel teeming with fish would be the furthest your interpretation of it goes, and there's another old saying about that as well

To the pro edhrec players, what does it teach a new player? Saying HERES THE BEST CARDS doesn't teach them why or how to find them. You are all fembrained morons

>>94856463
Do you have a deck for me to look at? Would love to run Bria too

>>94856479
>Not following here.
Yes, that's what autism does to a person. You're unable to understand key social aspects of every day life.

>>94856494
What here is a "key social aspect" anon. Honestly what are you even trying to say? You're clearly on some kind of tangent but the way you're trying to relate it to the discussion holds no weight. Try harder I beg of you, this is so low quality it is painful

>>94856287
It's not suspicious it's a reasonable time saver to just shuffle and play, EDH is rarely played in a tournament setting who is cheating at an LGS on a Sunday, I roll my eyes at guys who want their deck cut after every fetch land or tutor. Just play no one's cheating

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>>94856274
>>94856306
Can we agree then to look at BLB, MH3, DSK and FDN?

>>94856439
>>not building it yourself from scratch
>Which I never said nor did my post even approach suggesting such a thing,
You said:
>Scryfall is the best, the advanced search option will search via oracle text which should catch the majority of the older cards you might miss. But i also still do various searches because wotc is gay and some old cards won't have any erratic despite doing a very common basic thing. Per deck i will usually look at around 1000 cards, which seems a lot but takes 15 minutes.
>I would only ever check EDHREC if your deck has a few slots to fill

This is building from scratch. You are literally telling a new player:
>once you have picked a commander, you need to figure out what keywords and strings of words Wizards put on cards that you might want, and then scroll thousands of cards to find the good ones- only use EDHREC as a last resort
That's fucking unhinged.
A new player probably doesn't know what fucking card text works for his deck, he probably doesn't know how Wizards specifically worded it. If he spends hours searching he still might not find what he's looking for and have no idea that it exists but he just doesn't know what to type to find it.

On the other hand, if he starts with EDHREC it will fucking show him cards that have the effects he wants, and give him examples of the card text he should be looking for.

>>94856287
I dont let people cut my deck because I know your kind are out there and it drives them crazy

>>94856503
>It's not suspicious it's a reasonable time saver
It's literally 2-3 seconds per deck. Less than 10 seconds total around the whole table. We typically don't cut unless offered after tutors/land fetches but at the beginning of the game? Everyone gets cut and everyone expects to get cut.

>>94856291
>more colours gives you more options and the ability to have your deck get away from you arises
How can the deck get away from me? Wdym?
>There's a few good YouTube channel that are definitely worth watching
Which ones?

>>94856475
vehicles in general are a bitch way, just an underpowered gimmick subtype

had Greasefang, and it was too repetetive for me
Kykar/Alela are just too vanilla for my taste

>>94856182
Personally I'd say go 2 colors
I think it gives you a bit of comfort in design but its not overwhelming like 3
Id say just look on Moxfield and edhrec for different cards you are interested in running

>>94856516
>it is unhinged to tell someone to actually engage with and learn about their hobby
No, and ima add a full stop there as well

Answer this very simple question: what does EDHREC actually teach someone? Not what does it show them, what does it teach them

>>94856518
Honestly? I respect that.

>>94856491
https://archidekt.com/decks/10921511/bria_riptide_otter_i_hardly_know_her

just ignore the sideboard/maybeboard as those were just all the cards I was adding and removing when deckbuilding. It's definitely not some efficient cedh high powerlevel but I finally got to beat my friends at least.

>>94856504
Foundations is pretty underpowered. Hell, all core sets are.

>>94856479
>Saying HERES THE BEST CARDS doesn't teach them why or how to find them
Hey anon, a new player isn't going to learn what a "best card" even is from Scryfall.
Even if they figure out the card text they need and the syntax to find it, they have no fucking idea what is good and what isn't BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING NEW
Seeing examples of what is good and how card text is worded helps them go looking for more cards when they're ready.

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>>94856536
>what does EDHREC actually teach someone?
Asked and answered you backwards spastic >>94856559

>>94856479
Anon, you have yet to ascend. Edhrec doesnt tell you anything valuable outside of the most general cards that might be good. It's incredibly biased, easily influenced, and essentially useless when you get up to a certain power level. The knowledge of cards isnt some gnostic secret only for the most dedicated, they should be accessible to everyone. How you mix them together is the real secret to power, and nowhere online will tell you that in sufficient quality. You can only learn it by playing.

You are weak and intentionally misleading new people for silly ideological purposes instead of gitting gud. Your reply will prove my point.

>>94856528
So your deck has plan A, and then you find a card that synergies with part of Plan A but is largely its own thing, Plan B starts fomenting and so on. This can of course happen with 1 2 3 4 or 5 colours but the more cards you have to choose from the easier it is to find things that can distract from your main game plan. So mono can be easier in a lot of ways because it will generally feel a lot more guided.
>exmaples
I was a big fan of EDH Deckbuilding until around a year back. Lots of cool unique cards that most people never really talk about. Stragety has a unique perspective on the game and Salubrious Snail before his last 3 videos and he started huffing his own farts was very good

>>94856536
This has literally been answered like a dozen fucking times already holy FUCKING shit dude

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>>94856182
With scryfall you have to feed that bitch really general oracle text to find stuff that's actually useful. It's a strong tool but you have to smack it upside the head for awhile to get what you want. I would suggest going to EDHREC and/or Moxfield and trawling through other completed decks with your commander around the price range you're shooting for to look for tech. The main EDHREC page can be useful but it can also be a bit of a trap since it's just the most played cards filtered into a slurry without strategy or budget consideration. If your commander can be played in more than one way you can end up with a totally schizo deck that's trying to walk in two different directions.

You'll get more out of looking at finished versions of your commander's deck by other people than you will from singular youtube deckbuilding videos or EDHREC. Goldfish your deck hard before you order anything and show no mercy to cards that aren't goldfishing well, cut them.

>>94856551
Thanks anon

>>94856559
>>94856568
Where is the answer please highlight it cause I'm not seeing one
>>94856570
>they should be accessible for everyone
They are are there some secret cards out there not on scryfall?

Answer the question, what does EDHRec teach a player?
>>94856573
Feel free to screenshot an answer because no it hasn't lmao

I shuffle the decks of everyone in my playgroup because I have massive fuckoff pianist hands and everyone else has tiny baby hands.

>>94856593
We need to link up

>>94856593
this is me but I watch them struggle and then cut a bad hand for them

>>94856586
>Feel free to screenshot an answer because no it hasn't lmao
>please spoon feed me oh god oh geez oh fuck I'm so dumb I can't read posts myself oh man

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>>94856586
>Where is the answer please highlight it cause I'm not seeing one
NEW PLAYERS DO NOT KNOW WHICH CARDS ARE GOOD AND WHICH ARE NOT
SCROLLING 1000 CARDS ON SCRYFALL AS YOU SPECIFICALLY FUCKING RECOMMENDED DOES NOTHING BUT WASTE THEIR TIME AND MONEY
EDHREC SHOWS THEM WHAT THE MOST POPULAR CARDS ARE FOR THEIR COMMANDER
THEY CAN USE THAT INFORMATION TO FIND MORE CARDS LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF BLINDLY GUESSING AT CARD TEXT HOPING TO FIND SOMETHING USEFUL WITH NO WAY OF UNDERSTANDING WHETHER IT IS ANY GOOD

>>94856586
>going off on an autistic spree
Classic anonymous. EDHrec is an aggregator, scryfall is a search engine. You use EDHrec when you dont know what you're searching for, like if YOU'RE A NEW PLAYER who doesnt know anything about magic, and you use scryfall when you know what you're looking for and want to see the options available to you that will do it.

Fucking retards, I swear to god.

>>94856586
>20 posts describing exactly why edhrec is a great starting point
>aNsWeR tHe QuEsTiOn
Truly shitty bait.

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>>94856602
Es-tu en train de flirter avec moi?

>npcrec

>>94856586
least autistic Magic player

>>94856640
Take the L

>>94856530
I guess the issue with vehicles is if you have creature tokens or other fodder on your board, you could be using a doubler or something to make 20 more of them rather than having them crew an undercosted but still so-so 6/6.

>>94856593
I used to have a problem when I first started playing commander with the giant brick that is the library but I have since gotten over it and can do it just fine and my hands aren't even that big
Someone shuffling my deck would just make me think someone is stacking my deck against me like putting all my lands on the bottom so that even after a cut they are in the middle of my deck and useless.

>>94856659
If you don't know, there's a trick to shuffling giant sleeved decks: take the top half and shuffle them together. Shuffle bottom half together. Then take half of each pile and shuffle those together. Congrats you're done.

>>94856659
I wouldn't do it for strangers, but we're talking about my regular playgroup. These people at at my table, sleep in my house, nap on my dog, and half the cards they play came out of my boxes at one point or another.

>TQ
mash overhand, and sometimes people cut, sometimes people don't at my LGS. I usually encourage a cut because sometimes I get similar playlines two games in a row and it's boring to see the same cards in my opening hands/first few draws.

>>94856654
i guess my biggest issue is that they just shouldnt be affected by summoning sickness period.
its stupid and unintuitive.
and as you said, you can so much more cool and efficient shit than turning an already easy to remove artifact higher up the removal-shitlist by turning it into a creature

>>94856636
No i just have tiny hands ;-; but I would NEVER group with a Quebec dog

>>94856684
>let them cut
>let them shuffle and cut
>don't let them cut
>same card in my starting hand 3 games in a row
RNG does whatever the fuck it wants, my dude.

>>94856704
I'm just predisposed to feeling guilty even if I didn't do anything wrong lmao it really do be that way

very organic. you are not foolin' anyone

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>>94856631
To be fair, if one uses the correct filters, there are rarely over 100 cards. For example, "t:legendary t:creature color>=br -c:green -c:blue -c:white" lists all the Rakdos commanders which are 106 in number.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Alegendary+t%3Acreature+color%3E%3Dbr+-c%3Agreen+-c%3Ablue+-c%3Awhite&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

Picrel: Does she replace Braids, Cabal Minion?

>>94856697
I'm actually a filthy American, we just moved here a few years ago. But the residency application has been submitted, so I suppose it won't be long until I AM a chain-smoking contrarian.

>>94856636
NTA, mais je me souviens

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MAILCALL
my basics for titania just arrived

>>94856746
>For example, "t:legendary t:creature color>=br -c:green -c:blue -c:white"
Why the fuck are you making that so hard?
>is:commander id=rb
holy shit, dude. learn to fucking syntax

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Mono Red for Life

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>>94856781
My favorite burn commander ever.

>>94856479
EDHrec is best used in conjunction with things like the articles or really an experienced player talking through the synergies demonstrated, but for new players especially there is a big dearth of knowledge in what cards are even out there so it is a good resource for them.

>>94856528
Decks especially by beginners tend to get kind of meandering in terms of aim and wincon. As the other anon mentioned, you go in with plan A which usually focuses on synergy with your commander but you add a couple of cards that seem fun or interesting, but don't actually push plan A forward, and then you come up with a few cards that KIND of work with the new cards you've added, and then you end up with a deck that doesn't do A,B, or C especially well.

What I would do generally is play a bit of casual commander at your FLGS if with a precon and then ask people to walk you through their decks, which most people would be happy to do. I would also bring the idea of a commander or two you want to make up and see if people have some suggestions and then ask their reasoning on those cards. Whether they're right or wrong about a particular card is less important than getting a feel of what makes the kind of deckbuilding you're after. Also playing a bit of constructed or draft -if you have the time- can really help get a feel for a more instinctual "these things work together" and "what kind of answers will I need to have"

>>94856768
waitan' for spoiler season
but is that TITania one of those only in foil? I wanna see her booba- I mean closer

>>94856746
>lists all the Rakdos commanders which are 106 in number.
Finding a commander isn't the issue. The point is this sperg literally- L I T E R A L L Y- said to use EDHREC as a last resort, which means he is seriously recommending to a new player that they build an entire deck from scratch just guessing at card text on Scryfall

How the fuck is a new player even supposed to know what card text to look for in the first place? By what measure can he determine whether a card is good or not?
It's absolutely unhinged advice to tell a person to just scroll Scryfall and only use EDHREC as a last resort when it should literally be the inverse, especially for a new player.
See how other people build the deck, understand how the card text on useful cards is phrased, then you have a baseline to go find cards yourself because you actually know what you're looking for.

I dunno, it's like telling someone who wants to design a videogame to go learn C# rather than using a game design tool. Are they going to miss out on problem solving? Sure. But they'll actually design a fucking game instead of spending weeks learning how to design apps and sorting systems

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>>94856776
>holy shit, dude. learn to fucking syntax

>>94856789
>google her plot because her flavor text is interesting
>she literally fucking sucks so bad
>declares herself queen
>fakes raids to earn trust
>ran from Will
>Too cold to fight Hylda
>Agatha's champion kicked her ass and she needed to be saved by KELLAN
>comes back on bended knee and sucks will's dick so she can HELP with the fight against Eriette
Tragic how nothing mtg characters are.

>>94856827
Yeah I had to stop giving a fuck about lore/stories after years and years and fucking years of disappointment

>>94856768
Wish I could get mail today. No, we gotta celebrate a dunkard who beat his wife.

I always stack the top 7 of my deck before going to the LGS, its pretty easy to appear as though you are shuffling well while avoiding the top few cards. I offer cuts but no one ever takes them, their fault

>>94856848
this didnt happen btw

>>94856848
cool story bro

>>94856827
Why the fuck did Wizards decide that Kellan was going to be their new poster boy by the way?
>introduced in Wilds of Eldraine
>immediately in Lost Caverns of Ixalan the very next set
>in fucking Murders at Karlov Manor, the set after that
>then again in Outlaws of Thunder Junction, the set after that
>has a new card (that's garbage) in Foundations
That's an insane number of appearances for a character introduced not even a year and a half ago

>>94856923
polled well with the coomer girls

>>94856746

Braids- Nightmare is certainly a more palatable version, I have one in my Rakdos Mercenary theft deck but I haven't played her in any of my games yet so I don't have any IRL feedback.

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>last thread talked about unpleasant people getting dogpiled on in EDH
I generally notice that socially awkward or more unpleasant people tend to more frequently run more annoying shit, like Study or Remora. Why is that?

>>94856937
Cybertruck fans are weird

>>94856937
>I find people who run particular cards awkward and annoying
Sounds like a you problem.

>>94856937
Autistic people can't understand the concept of empathy, or simple things like "reading the room"

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>>94856956

>>94856933
You mean troons?
Eriette was the most interesting character out of Wilds, it's a shame her OTJ is a bit too janky. Could do with even just a (1) reduction to enchants.
I would have taken Rowan going off on some adventures though. Bloomburrow Rowan would have been kino. Although I guess they would have had to make her a lizard, which would not be kino.

>>94856984
Don't be obsessed, anon

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Would you run?

>>94856988
Hm? There's like 10 real women in this hobby and 6 of them are youtubers

>>94856998
Delusional

>>94856997
garbage custom card.

>>94856997
That wording is incredibly jank. "Cause something to happen unless" is complete nonsense
>optional cost
Is better if you want to keep it to Rhystics and Smothering Tithe type effects.
But honestly
>allows or requires you to pay
Would just be strictly better as it side steps a bunch of stax bullshit.

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>>94856923
Basically, Kellen is the poster boy for their new team of reoccurring legendary characters. The game is about legendary creatures and not Planeswalkers you can't use as your commander anymore so wotc needs to build up a new brand of marketable heroes. They need characters you can play as your commander to be the flagships of the game. Enter Kellen, Giada, Loot, Tinybones, and Zimone. All have received new cards or reprints at record speed because they're being groomed to replace the Jacetice League planeswalkers as the faces of the game. All of them were used on full art lands along with the planeswalkers in Foundations.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Amalia join this roster ether since they're primarily young or cute characters aimed at a younger demographic. Basically, they want him to be their Jace going forward.

>>94857019
>>94857021
Maybe
>“If a spell or ability an opponent controls would have you pay mana, you may pay (0) instead.”

>>94857001
Speaking from experience

>>94857026
Why replace the Jacetice League? Just because it's for boomers?
Also do you think now that WotC has control of the rules they'll just make Planeswalkers legal as commander?

>>94857026
>since they're primarily young or cute characters aimed at a younger demographic.
100% why Zimone is getting so pushed, lately. 5 cards in the last 2-3 years? Something like that

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>>94857026
Oh, Nashi as well almost forgot. Young, marketable, new, lots of cards and appearances in rapid succession.

I'm trying to improve my deck without ordering a bunch of singles, I posted yesterday and got some good tips, can anyone take a look and tell me if there's some obvious cards that will never help me and I should cut?

https://moxfield.com/decks/8TZJfcgex0yzt14Cn4wC9w

>>94857053
>Just because it's for boomers?
That's Urza's squad of planeswalkers

>>94857099
You have aged into the rank of boomer, anon.It's always the oldheads at my LGS creaming over Liliana, I literally could not care less about her or the others.

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kill me.

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>>94857091

>>94857123
so what are the Urza saga fans? Greatest gen? Silent?

>>94857141
Liches

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>>94857125
here's another banger

>>94857149
>>94857125
I hadn't heard anything from Chris Chan in a while, glad he's getting back into arts and crafts

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Gay Bolas

>>94857135
Cry

>>94857160
Yeah white liberals do cry every time they invent a fictional genius black child and it doesn't somehow alter reality

>>94857168
>Alters reality
lol wut

>>94857173
These people genuinely believe that black people don't become world-leading scientists because they don't see themselves represented that way in media.
They create characters like this because they have seriously become convinced that if they write le genius black child trope, an actual black child will be inspired and they will see in reality the representation they put into fiction.
They are wrong, explanation unecessary.

>>94857187
Its easier to do that, than deal with the actual issues with black culture, where black kids who are smarter or academically gifted are hard bullied by their own black piers because they are "being white" for getting good grades.

That said, I really don't care about smart black people in magic. I don't like Zimone because she's kinda boring as a character. If she was white I would feel the same.

>>94857187
You seem obsessed and deluded

>>94857187
epic strawman.
you're wrong and gay, explanation unNecessary

>>94857219
>>94857224
>open google scholar
>search "importance of representation in media"
These people will outright just tell you this shit. I don't know why you want to act like it's far-fetched.

>When you have to dig through several pages of EDHREC for your commander
Its a good feel

>>94857270
>several pages
The only way this is possible is if you're running backgrounds. Which is like.. less than .1% of all commanders ever

>>94857270
>When the theme you run with a commander doesn't even show up in their top 5 tags
It's an even better feel

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>>94857270
>Rank #553

I'm actually shocked he's so low. Tons of thematically flavorful and useful cards that combine with his strat, one of the most popular tribes, potential to produce absolutely fuckhuge creatures with cards like Awakening, and worse case scenario you have a deck of mana dorks you can just throw a big creature or Lathiel into the 99 and still have a respectable elfball.

>>94857380
>most popular tribe
thus everyone chooses other options, especially because the most popular one's also golgari

>>94857380
>or Lathiel into the 99
Right, but
consider
you could have her in the command zone

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>>94857270
Higher rank that I thought it was going to be, honestly.

>>94857237
>I don't know why you want to act like it's far-fetched.
first they say its not happening
then they say its happening but its not that bad
then they say its happening but it doesnt matter
then they say its actually a good thing

i believe we are between steps 2 and 3 at this moment

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>>94857125
>>94857149
Wow, those are so bad they wrap around and become good again.

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>completely new to everything MtG
>friends that have played for years keep telling me how great Tarkir is
>look up commanders
>'Huh that's interesting, there's two of each of these guys'
>look up wiki for tarkir
>timeline fuckery
I'm assuming the cards themselves must be extremely good why else would anyone like that shit

>>94857539
Next to no one pays attention to the story bro. He just slam cardboard.

>>94857539
>>friends that have played for years keep telling me how great Tarkir is
What's it like being in your mid to late 30s?

>>94855979
>tq
shuffle by hand(rough approximations), with some mash shuffles. Pile shuffle if it's been like 3+ games
I weave, then shuffle before i go to the LGS.
>cut decks
I offer, and most people do just because it's good etiquette but it's not enforced.
If you need to really cheat at casual commander good on you I guess.

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>someone Ilharg and Blightsteels out on turn 5 to kill someone
>"Should've run removal" he says
>Next game someone Nevermores Ilharg
>Red player tries to Chaos Warp nevermore
>Counterspelled
>Tries to cast Blightsteel normally after a while
>Counterspelled with an exile effect to remove it for good
>Complains that there is too much removal
I mean does anyone seriously expect a Blightsteel being cheated out to not get hated out rapidly?

>>94857159
Sorry, Bolas is canonically bisexual, like all dragons

>>94857539
The standard and draft experience were some of the best of all time. That standard had a modern-style manabases with fetches and shocks so basically every multicolour card was playable. Monocolour decks were cheap, powerful, and actually fun. The tricolour setting had neat cards with great art. It had a pair and a wedge set back to back, so it was extra fun for anyone who liked big kaiju things. It was honestly awesome.

>>94857531
It's the most bizarre thing to me. They're all ingrained with this exact playbook. Such slimy rat people. Whenever their beliefs are detected in settings they perceive as unfavorable they immediately resort to gaslighting instead of just standing by their beliefs.

>>94857026
I have no problems with this or the desparked planeswalker creatures because actual planesalker cards were a huge gameplay mistake

>>94857576
sounds like a whiny bitch. disregard anything he complains about

>>94857576
I really don't get why people who get upset when they aren't allowed to win.
The guy is a faggot for saying "haha run more removal!"

>>94857569
Hungry

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So if I have one of these on the board

And let's say I make a token copy of it

Would the token entering do damage twice, once for its own effect and once for the original effect?

>>94857539
Because Khans was fucking great, and that was before the timeline fuckery.

>>94857640
Correct.

>>94857649
Shiiiiiit

Orthion sounds strong as fuck with that guy then.

>>94857642
So any plans for your 40th birthday anon?

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I was about to brew greasefangs, should I wait for the aerdrift spoilers?

>>94857569
Shit fucking sucks. Body doesn't heal as fast as it used to. I finally get 7+ hours of sleep and my neck and back are fucked because I "slept wrong"

>>94857667
You realize the average anon on these threads is 30-ought, right?

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>>94857531
>>94857594
so its just the same for everyone same, left, right, center

now discuss whether or not this is the best card in MtG, and why green is better anyways

>>94857669
100% yes. I have a vehicle deck that I'm waiting to rebuild and I'm waiting for all the new cards

>>94857026
Why they pick Zimone? She is not even cute, Vivien should fill the black gir spot.

>>94857674
Man sounds like some real Logan shit. What you gonna do when your healing factor runs out?
>>94857677
Decrepit ghouls the lot of you. No wonder you're all obsessed with Liliana you're ready to join her harem.

>>94857669
text-only spoilers say there's a 13/13 vehicle with crew 1, and one of the precons is esper so there's probably some choice cards in it

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>>94857669
ITA that dismantled her, the brew will be about finding and discarding Parhelion II or picrel over and over again.
she is quite a decent aggro commander though, and might even be the best Vehicles commander overall so far

>>94857698
>What you gonna do when your healing factor runs out?
It's already ran out. I'm just counting the days.

>>94857698
How old are you anon? Personally, I'm cool with it. It's nice having the confidence and experience that come with age. I like teaching people the things I wish I knew when I was that age.

>>94857576
I put oubliette on Najeela right before he went infinite with her the other night, when he tried to remove it I deflecting swated it to his Arcane signet.
He seethed the rest of the night and tried to eliminate me every game after that. Some players are just massive pussies who can't take the L gracefully.

If I have a card that makes it so my life can't change, and someone does the infinite life game/life damage combo, is that a draw or it just ends each time because I can't lose life?

>>94857736
Depends on what the specific combo is.

>>94857736
You can't gain or lose life. Period. But we need to see the specific cards. Paste them all together in Paint or something

>>94857667
>be 14 when KTK came out
>be accused now of being 15 years older than you are
Wild.

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>>94857743
>>94857748

>>94857775
First card would never trigger, since you can't gain/lose life. 2nd card will never trigger off the first since first can't trigger, but will trigger off the opponent's life gain, but you can't gain/lose life, so nothing happens

>>94857788
That's what I thought, but my table never encountered that with a platinum emperion on the board, so we just called it a draw.

>>94857775
Assuming player except for you and whoever played the combo is already dead, then Exquisite Blood doesn't do anything because you aren't losing life.

>>94857796
The game is not a draw. The triggers just don't work and you move on because they never happen

>>94857806
I realize that now, but we called it a draw because we are dumbshits that couldn't work it out at the time.

>>94857813
Check gatherer for any involved cards next time you need a rules answer in the moment. It's got rulings for most of the common questions that might come up.

>>94857775
It still amazes me that they're so resistant to reprinting Exquisite Blood specifically. It has only ever gotten one alternate art, and that was a Dracula treatment.

>>94857826
...they just fucking reprinted it???

>>94857582
I'll take it.

>>94856132
let me guess: you found the original Xbox controller comfortable to hold

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>>94857826
Nigga what?

>>94857848
Nta, but I unironically like "the duke" because I'm fuckhuge.

>>94857852
>>94857836
After literally a decade, yeah. That's ridiculous.

>>94857862
>List and Jumpstart are both 2020 reprints
How fucking stupid are you..?

>>94857868
>1/1000 chance and Product: the Scalpening
How fucking stupid are you...?

>>94857875
>are actual, legitimate, physical reprints
>NUH UH DOESN'T COUNT FUCK YOU I'M RIGHT
Go touch grass, anon.

>>94857667
Why is it in any way surprising that a game that's been out for over 30 years has players older than 20

>>94857855
I'm not judging, just the idea that people only ever overhand shuffle an edh deck is ridiculous, presumably its sleeved (though maybe not given >>94856036's psychotic behavior) so you would need big hands to do it

>>94857848
I wasn't even alive when the first 359 Xboxs came out, anon
>>94857881
Who said it was surprising? I'm mocking you. You are being mocked

>>94857669
I'm waiting for the same and seeing what the Commander sets look like.

I picked up some new cards, heading to valuetown

>>94857914
>edh players are literal children
lel

Thoughts on Darksteel Mutation?

>>94857970
I like to ad lib klaus schwab when I cast it
>your commander vill live in ze pod
>your commander vill be ze bug
>you vill have nothing
>und you'll be happy

>>94857970
Its funny.

>>94857970
Always just barely gets cut from my decks.

>>94857970
Pretty much auto include in any deck running white. Shuts down any creature shenanigans

>>94857970
I'm more of an imprisoned in the moon guy, but both are top tier.

>>94856090
I had a Jodah player accuse me of bullying him when I kept doing this, I don't know what people who play Commanders like this expect.

>>94858008
>i want to cast my commander over and over so if you remove it it's fine
>okay sure
I always like it when someone thinks that they can cast their commander again for free

I want to run a mirror deck. Do nothing but make copies of other things on the board and copy spells others cast. What would be a good commander?

>>94858031
>talking about the threat to someone else
>I can deal with his commander if you agree not to hit me this turn
>threat interrupts
>I'll just recast my commander so whatever
>I didn't say I was gonna remove it
>Oubliette

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>>94858017
>I don't know what people who play Commanders like this expect.
I do.

>>94858039
Sakashima, obviously. Did you even search "is: commander o:copy" on Scryfall before asking this?

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>tfw just added 14 cards to my deck now I gotta make 14 cuts

>>94858017
>>94858043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDI44Xhq7Tk

>>94858046
no and that search has 0 results, but that is a good one

>>94857609
>>94857610
some people don't want a good game of magic

they want a game of magic that makes them feel good because they crushed everyone

>>94858043
Let me rephrase then. I don't know why these players expect their opponents not to respond to their one card value machine, especially as the Commander.

>>94858052
That's because there's a space before commander that breaks syntax
>is:commander o:copy
Am I getting paid for babysitting you?

>>94858054
There's an entire "sub-genre" of commander games at my LGS that run zero interaction/removal. Literally "first to draw/setup their wincon should win" and they inspect people's decks to make sure people can't disrupt other players.

>>94858065
I want to comment on these "people" but it's not within the site TOS.

>>94858065
I mean, I hate durdley, zero win-con, counter and remove everything without any other gameplan decks as much as the next guy, but ZERO interaction is nuts.

>>94858065
the irony of the Ilharg player complaining about removal was that he HIMSELF ran a bunch of removal

the issue is of course when you cheat out blightsteel on turn 4, 3 people are way more likely to save their removal on just you

so he basically gimped himself into a 3v1 afterwards and since it's a lot harder to face 3 decks worth of removal, he couldn't do much

>>94858065
That's deadly levels of cringe

>>94858065
let me guess the meta is entirely temur good stuff like maelstrom or imoti or eldrazi

>>94858062
No, but Sakashima seems like a good fit. Blue has a lot of clone abilities, but I was hoping to include red for reverberate effects. I plan to use everyone else's spells rather then my own.

>>94858083
No idea, I stay the FUCK away from that bullshit. I've heard them arguing over having Fog or Holy Day allowed in one of the decks. That's the level of cringe we're talking about

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I don't want to cut my ridiculous life gain topend but I need to make 11 cuts...

>>94858105
Never post pics, always link it. I don't know what any of these cards do, I need the hover-over function

>>94858105
>sorting by mana value and not function
Are you a fucking psychopath?

>>94858119
https://moxfield.com/decks/YzG2qQuTREibNIRUd1414A

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>Find niche commander does a cool thing
>It's an old legend so it's overcosted as shit with below rate stats and maybe one keyword if you're lucky
Hurts just a little

>>94858135
>40 lands in 2 colors
anon you can definitely cut that down a ton

looking at your list it's mostly low CMC creatures

>>94857539
The lore has always been the shittiest part of MTG. It should've just stayed as unknown wizards summoning monsters to hurl at one another instead of being gay disneyshit planeswalkers

>>94858155
I have shit lands though so I need to draw a lot to make sure I have the right kind, luckily I draw 2-8 cards every turn

>>94858105
>>94858135
Cut 2-3 lands, easily. 38 is the starting point for decks. Cut Path of Bravery
>Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse in a 2 color deck
Bitch are you fucking serious..? Cut/replace them.
>Neglected Manor in Commander
Cut it what the fuck are you doing jfc dude

>>94858163
>luckily I draw 2-8 cards every turn
Then why the FUCK are you running search/fetch lands? Especially in 2 fucking colors???

>>94855979
>TQ: I bridge shuffle my cards.
Honestly it started as a way to bother a friend of mine but then i started losing every time i didn't bridge shuffle my deck so now.
I fucked around and now I'm superstitious.

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>>94857826
My autist, they've printed it 3 times in the last 5 years and introduced the same effect on an incredible body at the same mana cost to boot. EB is absolutely not a card they're hesitant to shit out, it's just incredibly good and can go into literally any Black deck so it's price will never ever drop.

>>94858105
Well, you're running two hatebears, so I guess that's an improvement.

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>>94858039
Sen Triplets with a bunch of the steal effects like Xanathar for redundancy, then fill it up with clones. You won't need to worry about making your deck, since you're just going to be playing the best one at the table no matter who it belongs to.

>>94858215
>you can play cards from their hand
So you can just fucking steal their lands every turn? uhhh.. holy shit???

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>>94858065
Just build stax. You won't be technically interacting with anyone, and just like technically no one will be interacting with anything, not even their own cards.

>>94858232
Nah someone tried that a long time ago, they got banished from the table.

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>>94858225
Yes. Get extra upkeep steps and you can shut down the whole table for you turn and play their cards. Throw in clones - especially Sakashima or Spark Double, anything that avoids the Legendary rule - and you can literally just play everyone else's deck.

>Magic then: Upkeep is when you pay all of your costs
>Magic then: Upkeep is when you get all of your goodies
Sad!

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>>94858268
Taxes happen on the draw step now

>>94858268
>Magic then
>Magic then
Embarassing

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>>94858268
>Magic then: Upkeep is- ACK!

>>94858175
>>94858161
2 colors I go 34 lands even sometimes if the curve is low enough. For a low CMC focused deck 34 might be okay. You do need mana rocks and ramp however.

>>94856025
art's just nice but it's really satisfying seeing that RKF still has it too

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Alright anons, I need help with this, I keep running out of steam, I don't know what to add, or what to cut.
https://moxfield.com/decks/MYCBhue-ekCUedidUMK1ww

>>94858360
Makes sense, you have very little card draw.

>>94858360
This deck's a mess anon, sorry. Like you have 6+ lord effects that I can see and a bunch of vamps that are already 2 or 3 power, then you have stuff like Welcoming Vampire. Then you have generic good stuff that doesn't really interact with each other, like 4 aristocrat style cards, 4 aggro, 4 combo, etc.

Your deck has no clear main goal, it's just a mishmash of EDHrec cards thrown together. Tbh it should be rebuilt from the ground up with a main strat and a 2nd strat focus. You're pulling in 6 different directions and not doing anything well.

>>94858065
man what the fuck

>>94858065
Wow. That was physically painful to read. They inspect your deck for removal? The fuck is this.

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>>94858190
>have exquisite blood out on the field
>exsanguinate x=10
>mfw

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What do you nerds think of my Silvos deck?
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-chad-silvos/?cb=1737435656

>>94858476
I think why

>>94858483
dont need lot words to bonk

Unironically why do some EDH players not like UB?

I mean no offense but I doubt most EDH players have played for more than 5 years, and even as someone who's played magic for 16 years I was never into the lore (I tried the books they were okay). So I don't think it's because you love original lore

>>94858476
Neat, I like the eldrazi subtheme. Where's your card draw? Greater good is pretty meh in a lot of cases.

>>94858508
Tone. Power creep. Art. Brings in more slopfags.

>>94858508
I've played Magic for more than 20 years. It's because I love original lore, despite having started in the block with the actual worst Magic story ever written.

>>94858508
Fandoms are annoying. Thank fuck the dr. Who faggots shut the fuck up. It's just a giant influx of braindead shitposters every time one of these half assed sets come out, and they dont even play magic. The whole thread devolves into people asking about the same 3 good commanders for months and going through the whole "good cards cost money" existential crisis.

>>94858372
What's some good shit to add, anon?

>>94858476
What's up with Scrawling Crawler?

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>>94858514
Thanks anon. Reliably having an 8-power guy who can protect himself opens up a lot of big burst-style card draw in green that often draws into another card draw source

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>>94858545
it's a good card

>>94858360
Like the other anon said, it's kind of just generic vampire tribal with no real aim for those vampires. You have Anje for goodness sake and one vampire with madness. Replace some of the vampires that don't fit into the theme you want with draw and maybe some more interaction

>>94858545
Yeah I honestly just think it's a neat card that can be run generically. I like that it doesn't draw until your upkeep so people can't benefit off of it before you do. The incremental damage really adds up and it punishes greedy card draw hard. Plus it's politically pretty nice as opponents are usually happy to get the extra cards

>>94858545
Not him, but you haven't lived until you've resolved a Smothering Tithe, Scrawling Crawler, and two clones.

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>>94858551
I guess you have an eldrazi thing going I should have read the whole list, I'm always interested in mono green decks that aren't elves

>>94858545
commander would be more fun if every deck ran scrawling crawler

spoilers WHEN

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>>94858593
t. izzet mage

>>94858532
Complicated question. There are a couple schools of thought. I'm a fan of interval-based draw; cards that draw cards as soon as they resolve, usually at a better rate. You have night's whisper, sign in blood, and read the bones, which are usually the best, but you might want to lean more into graveyard synergies with looting effects/wheels and a splash of reanimator, or pauper technology like reckoner's bargain and deadly dispute, both of which are instants. I like your vampire theme, but I'd cut some of the shittier more expensive ones to make room. Exanguinator cavalry is also spicy and a vampire. I really hate phyrexian arena style cards because it needs to loiter around for many turns in order to have any hypothetical payoff, but many people disagree.

If you want to power up, the next step is combo card draw and tutors. Pick a single gameplan, focus on it, and enable it. Run the best draw engines in the format like the one ring and necropotence. Tutor them up, slap them down, and draw cards like a mad cunt. Also, you might want more interaction. Mardu is very weak in terms of mana fixing, acceleration, and protection. I personally love stax, but your milage may vary. Contamination is also spicy with your commander, but be careful.

>>94858598
Twelve and a half hours.

>>94858476
I've been playing magic for over ten years and regenerate still confuses me sometimes

>>94858610
oh shit for real? I thought it'd be next week at the earliest since the set releases next month

>>94858629
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/where-to-find-aetherdrift-previews

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If I have several effects in a deck that reduce casting costs for my big creatures

Is it smarter to leave some in my hand in case of wipes or removal? Cause at a certain point reducing the costs won't help much (only so much generic mana in CMCs after all).

>>94858619
Yeah it's led to a lot of disagreements at my tables too. The "remove it from combat" clause is tricky because the regeneration doesn't occur until after damage has been dealt.

> our commander youtube show is totally unscripted
> but we wont play removal on someones commander until they can do something
> and we curate decklists ahead of time with extensive bans
> and we wont show you what is in everyones hand

>>94858654
Are you going to win this turn?
Do you have adequate protection to stop a spell or reduce it's effects on your permanents?
Do you have recursion?

If the answer to these are no, never overextend. Don't think of 4 cards that reduce cost by -(1) as potentially -(4), think of them as -(2) with two as back up in case they get wiped.

>>94858660
don't watch it if you don't like it
simple as

>>94858660
As it turns out unscripted EDH games are insanely boring to watch because players beyond a certain threshold know how to stop decks before they start, which from an outside perspective makes it look like someone didn't get to participate at all.

>>94858660
Are there any actually useful EDH channels.

>>94858654
Honestly it depends on your playgroup. I've straight up never have seen mass noncreature removal in over a decade of playing with my group. For artifacts/enchantments, it's always spot removal (even stuff like By Force is only used to hit a select number of troublesome cards). That being said you almost never wanna overextend yourself because you straight up never know what someone's gonna play. Unless you need it there and then or even next turn, always keep it locked and loaded

>>94858660
>this game has unwritten rules to make it more entertaining for viewers
>wtf!?!?! scripted!!!!!
Why say words you don't mean? If something is scripted that means particular things are planned to happen but the people involved don't acknowledge that it was written to be that way.
If a game is run in a way to make it entertaining to watch but the actual things that happen weren't planned ahead of time- it's not fucking scripted.

>>94858654
my personal rule is never more than 2 of the same supporting/buffing effects out at the same time. Always plan for your shit getting blown up

>>94858677
Mine is useful:3 for vibes and yaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jTyPu8LdhE&t=800s

>>94858566
>>94858607
Thanks for the advice, anons. Anje isn't there for the madness interaction, she's (supposed to be) there as a cheap creature that triggers Edgar and also gives me cards, that being said, she's a new addition, and I haven't actually tested her yet. I'm still not sure what the ideal number of creatures to run in the deck is either.
As for direction, it is just kind of supposed to be generic vampire tribal goodstuff go-wide-hit-hard shit, that being said, I've cut the Aristocrats stuff entirely and mostly replaced it with card draw, what's the next theme/cards you think I should trim or cut? I'd like to avoid tutors as much as possible.

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How often do turns go by where this effect would come up?

>>94858741
50%

>>94858741
I had a deck for this guy loved it he was hated out every time I cast him cause oh no what if.

>>94858771
people have some ass priorities
>hey that guy over there just cast 3 tutors in a row, let him cook
>oh no that guy is gonna make me lose 3 life!!! DESTROY HIM

>>94858778
Maybe three life!!! It is so easy to meet his requirement just do something removal, bounce, crack a fetch land, force a chump block. I had infernal darkness and contamination in the deck so yeah every once in a while i could stop or slowdown non black decks from doing stuff but even then just attack! I might rebuild it i don't care

>>94858687
Nice try Rachel

>>94858741
In my pod? Unless you pulled a lottery ticket with Sol Ring or are playing green with black, this guy isn't coming out until turn 3 by the earliest, and at that point everything from treasures and food to sacrificing and removal is being flung liberally around. This guy would never ever trigger unless someone had locked the table out with stax pieces, and even then 3 life is who cares.

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>>94858839
I think ideally you're using something like pic related with him.

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>>94858839
>>94858859
You're never safe from being one shot punk

>>94858859
It's not the amount of life loss, it's having it actually happen. Sacking shit happens all the time (creatures/treasures/tokens/whatever) and combat is near guaranteed every turn. You'd need some kinda shit ass stax deck to prevent *anything* from happening. Even using a simple fetch land will prevent him from happening

>>94858859
>6 mana cost
>not happening before like T3-4 unless you have the godliest of god starts
The game's in full swing by then. You'd have to have that shit ready to go on like T2 at most for reasons that have already been said: >>94858839 >>94858886

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>>94858879
>player bleeds themselves for 39 to put 13 counters on Saverok
>in response I turn pic related sideways and cast Lava Dart at that player for 1 damage

GG

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>>94858741
>Someone has a big beater or a lot of tokens
>They play nothing main phase and just go to combat and swing at you
>If you chump you for sure don't get the trigger
>If you don't, they slam you and might still negate his trigger in main phase 2
>If you use removal you don't get the trigger
This seems actively bad for you, no? If your pod figures out your commander turns you into a free punching bag every turn you're probably going to get beaten to death before you can find an avenue to pop off or you will lose creatures trying to fend off attackers. I guess you could run a lot of damage negation stuff since this is life loss but that seems like cope to me.

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>Ask Timmy friend to design custom cards of his own since I make a bunch of them and I want to see his ideas
>First idea he has is 1 colorless instant unrestricted "flip DFC to other side" because he's thinking about getting a discount on returning Ojer Taq
>mfw

>>94858970
Urza, Planeswalker is a Melded card, not a transformed DFC. Meld is a very specific keyword.

>>94859016
It's still 3 mana to add 40 mana like holy shit Mana Crypt would blush.