Trench Crusade General - /trench/Weird love Edition >What is Trench Crusade? An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu. >What Trench Crusade is not TC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic. >What's the QRD on the background? The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes. >How do I get started? All the files are free online, but are split between the website and the discord. They have all been collected here for your convenience: https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ >third party sources for making trenchers: https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc >Trench Compendium Compendium: https://trenchcompendium.netlify.app/ Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/k44MxmJxWu3upDHT8 >Previous thread: >>96168498 >Thread Question: What's the latest thing you've done that /trench/ related?
>>96384666Still waiting for the flamethrower focused Pilgrim faction that replaces the prophet with the witchburner. I want to use that unit but its a glory unit that is stupid expensive.
>>96383228I couldnt find good titty models to convert so intend to just use frostforges female wizards, theyre just women in robes instead of nude though.
>>96384666>TQJust finished writing up a summary of some of the most recent battles for our campaign book. Also spent some time painting a Heretic Priest today, though he's still WIP
I'm thinking about using a different ruleset for more massed battles with 15mm models. I like the setting and lore but the small scale skirmish style really irks me. I was thinking about using something like Midgard or Future War Commander, something that's more freeform in terms of the forces so I can just basically port over the factions.
>>96384666You forgot to update the Previous Thread. It's here >>96268995
>>96384666I got my KS models and I'm really not impressed. Warped, filled with supports, messy layer lines, random base styles (PLA and evemodel) and missing a model and the backpack for the anchorite shrine. Conversely, some random printer guy on Etsy sold me a full warband much faster, cheaper, and better quality. Should have just waited for that.
>>96384666Satanic get for the OP, Hell is victorious again!
>>96384666I want to get into TC, the rules are cool and I like the focus on smaller customized warbands. My issue is deciding to start with a faction. I really like the whole model spread for New Antioch, especially the sniper priests and the heavy mech suit guys, but the artillery witch is the single coolest model to me both in terms of looks and in terms of mechanics. I'll probably want to build both Heretic Legion and New Antioch, but can't decide where to start
>>96384666So that's what this pic come from...You can have it
I suppose this is from the same source?
>>96386576That’s TC art, yeah.
>>96386576Yes, OP is a fan art
>>96386313You could always play a test game or few with placeholders before actually picking and painting your first faction, that's what we did.If that helps I think the Legion is a slightly easier faction to start with, they're straightforward, versatile and I think on the stronger side of factions right now. Antioch can be very good, but is strongly reliant on good usage of its fireteams and on positioning, which makes it trickier to work with. But then again, this game isn't exactly rocket science either and the current balance could probably get shaken quite a bit with the release of "final" rulebook
>>96384712What else would the subfaction need to make the theme shine? I feel like something that can bypass Demonic's Fire resistance like with the Witchburner would be a good start
>>96387288No limit on incendiary ammunitionSince the variant's name is "The Path of Pious Revenge", maybe a special item that allows you to place a blood marker from fire on anyone who attacks your model, fiery retribution style?I'd say something that allows them to remove infection markers (cleansing the rot with fire and all that), but I don't like things being too reliant on specific enemies.Since they're supposed to be dedicated to st Olga, and among other things she's a patron of converts, perhaps you could allow them to have a single model or some equipment from the Sultanate, to represent conversions
>>96386313Go with HL, easier and jack of all trades
>>96384666Nice trips, this thread belongs to Lucifer and Heretic Legion.How to hell doesn't that witch burst into flames near the inquisitor?
>>96389224With the usual movement speed those guys have? She still has plenty of time to run away
I've been wondering. Will they add the child tactician as a mercenary at some point? It could be some type of passive buffing unit. Maybe forcing rerolls or something.
>>96385145Make sure to post it when you're done. There's a severe lack of battlereports for other to learn from.
>>96389448Well, it's much more of a narrative, story focused thing than a proper battle report and besides it's in Polish
>>96384712They are never going to replace the anti-Chud mini. In fact I'm surprised that they haven't turned the war prophet into the face of the game lol.
>>96389440This is not canon, even the guys neae him are not MHI.He's probably the early concept of a observer.
>>96389440Franchina was walking on the knife edge when he made that art. It's traced from a real picture of a kid who had some kind of skin graft after being burned, but it's very rare to find online nowadays so he avoided the shitstorm. But if a big youtuber or something finds the picture and spreads the news, it'll be a big controversy.
>>96391451Why do this to yourself. Reminder that the game is about making your own stuff.Heres my War Prophet, might swap the sword to a flail or spear.
>>96391476>you used something real as inspiration, you cant do that!Yea, and Half Life 2 uses a real photo of a murder victims face for the charred zombie models. Noone cares about that sort of thing anon. The game Dead Space that uses actual car crash photographic to model corpses in game, and some were one to one. This sort of thing happens more than you might realize and noone cares.
>>96391457It is, there's a lore blurb for it
>>96391476>Art of brutal and fucked up shit happening to people is okay, but if it uses a real photo as a reference point it suddenly stops being okay Come the fuck on anon, I know some people would get pissy about it, but such people are retards looking for made up problems out of boredom
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>>96384666Next time someone makes the general, remember to replace the compendium link with the new app.
>>96389224>How to hell doesn't that witch burst into flames near the inquisitor?Her artificussy too wet, it counteracts.>>96391563That is, without a doubt, the only time I've ever seen a Bretonnian Foot Knight that didn't look like ass. Well done.
>>96391821Where?
>>96394278I think he's referring to "The Synod of Strategic Prophecy Headquarters" pdf, which you can find in the Lore Pdf's folder in the OP mega. It mentions children being highly sought after, and having parts of their brains wired into antennas, amongst other things, to be Tacticians and better hear the voice of God and God's plan.
>>96389224He cant burn her yet, theres still questioning to be done, then a smoke break.
>>96393265Thanks, maybe youll like my stormshart conversion for a Black Grail Dirge executor too. Struggling with what to make the chaff units with for Dirge so have only got as far as making test models for them.>endless funeral procession>older than the modern war>actually use fire arms>"honor guard" of thralls>warband ability that lets thralls take free turns by consuming infection markers so there should be a lot of themWanted to make them napoleonic line infantry wearing all black with melted and contorted faces but I dont know the ball park for what Dirge is even suppose to look like, I dont know if napoleonic stuff is getting too far from the premise of the setting where even the ghosts wear WW1 gas masks.
>>96394911Another good model, and I'm particularly in love with that head. Where's it from/how'd you do it?>Wanted to make them napoleonic line infantry wearing all black with melted and contorted faces but I dont know the ball park for what Dirge is even suppose to look likeWell some guys dress like the Spanish Inquisition or Medieval Knights, so I'd say that mockeries of Napoleonic glory are perfectly fine. Especially given that the French in WW1 were still pseudo-Napoleonic with their uniforms (and early battle tactics for that matter).
>>96395067Heres what it looks like before it was cleaned up. Its actually a horse head cut in half that I sculpted the teeth and jaw onto and stuck pins in, its easier to see when I dont desaturate it.In regards to the napoleonic infantry, the perry miniatures I intended to use are thin enough that I wanted to fit 2 per base so it actually looks like a line of faceless men marching forward that dont flinch at gunfire or take cover, which would be what gives them their fear trait.
>>96392857are you the appfag?I still didn't test it, but it looks great, gj
>>96396656Head reminds me of the Mass Production Eva from Neon Genesis from the side.
Found some cool art of janissary
>>96401816That was my inspiration, the armour is going to be white so the red of the mouth is more apparent.
Compendium/Companion guy here, app is out of maitenance and fully operational.Nice that this issue was because we had more warbands/users than the system could initially handle.
>>96402406Awesome, can't wait to see it finished.>>96404812Sweet.
>>96384666Are they in love, angrily glaring at each other, where is the kabedon?
>>96409518The woman is a heretic construct from hell called an Artillery Witch, and the guy in red is a member of the Inquisition and is called a Witchburner. They are not friends.
Anyone have a link for the Sultanate files? My LGS owner is trying to rake me over the coals for printing services. I've bought a few stls but I want the full set made so I can try different forces even if I'm Fid'ai pilled. Also if someone has pic related that would be great. Need that pipe smoker
>>96384666>666nice
>>96408715>>96409574What actually are the artillery witches, since they're not living and not undead?
>>96411424Artificial life. A machine with sentience. AI
>>96389440>I'm doing my part!>I'm doing my part!>I'm doing my part!>MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMHMMHMMHMMMMMM!!!>[all laughing]
The trench crusade board at my store is done, maybe at some point when im not too tired to game cos of work ill be able to play on it.
>>96402406I'm looking forward to seeing this too, hell yeah>>96389440I doubt it unless it's really good mechanically. There's so many tiny pieces and fine details, it would probably not turn out well.
>>96384666>TQI've definitely finished my warband, at this point I am just adding fluff like additional models with weapons I may or may not put to use so what you see is what you get (I'm addicted + they look cool so fuck it) Also finally getting around to getting some mercs, partly to paint since they're neat but also so I can put some into play and use the correct models. >>96386004i'm sorry you had that result anon. I got a guy at my LGS to print everything I want, since he's interested in more people getting into the game he does it for real cheap (generally a cool guy too) >>96385538I see no issue beyond time constraint with doing battles with way more units. At this point I have like 25-30 models, I could easily do a 1500-2000~ ducat game.
>>96411424>>96411741More liek Artificial WIFE! I would slaughter 100000000 x 666 white christian orphans for an artillary witch wife!
>>96414726You know damn well they aren't building her with mecha-pussy (unless you work under Lust, i suppose).You're gonna reach under there and get put in a bear trap.
>>96384666>trench crusade has catgirlsBecause of course it does. Grimdark my ass.
>>96415365>You're gonna reach under there and get put in a bear trap.Bear Trapussy might just be worth it.
>>96415386They're horns or just the design of her headI have however seen some cat-eared sculpts online
Just finished my first NA warband!The Cleansing Fire marches under orders of Grand Inquisitor Torquemada with a sizable force of Conquistadores. Their goal, to liberate Gibraltar from Heretic hands.Very happy with the results, here's a shitty photo. Better ones tomorrow
>>96418381Sick. Im not seeing what the units are suppose to be though if they are NA.
>>96416490Does it have her going 'nya~'Because it ain't a catgirl unless it goes 'nya~'
>>96415386It does have the Path of the Beast. While most have been canine-adjacent and fetus-pilled, there's nothing stopping them from becoming feline-adjacent and maid-pilled.
>>96418381Good stuff, Anon.
>>96421229And their warband lore is hermaphrodite dot, therefore a anime beastfolk trap
>>96421282Are you incapable of parsing information outside of references to popular culture products?
Any Anon's at the Nova Open? Gonna check out of the TC stuff?
>>96421300https://www.trenchcrusade.com/from-the-official-and-true-annals-of-the-church-history/zygotic-lordYou are welcome
>>96421324No, Anon, I understand what you're referring to, I just think it's cringe you're referring to it via anime.
>>96421337They compared the artillery Witch to a cat girl, I continued the joke.This is an anime focused imageboard.You are cringe.
>>96418381Looks great anon!
>>96420284I'm using the dedicated rules made by the community for this subfraction, so a couple of units are "exclusive", plus I can take the smaller Ancorite as a Mercenary. If I had to use them as 1 to 1 proxies of standard NA, I do have like 30 other models from this series that would do the job perfectly, still haven't done em tho.
>>96418381They're looking superb anon, godspeed as we say. The greatest aesthetic issue with the setting is that everyone does dark washed out brown and green, so it's nice when someone gets some other colours up in there.
Thx guys much appreciated,Just one more, slightly better shot of the boys for the thread
>>96391476Anon the whole setting, and the whole art is almost about being as grunge and grimdark and confrontational as possible (while still telling a good story).I really don't think Franchina would give a damn about not touching something because it's potentially taboo-ish. If anything, you could use it as bait.
There's a guy in my LGS who's super into TC and I just finished reading the lore. I may get some Iron Sultanate models printed, hope the guy's in the LGS tomorrow.
>https://trench-companion.com/blog/one-month-at-war-patch-0-1-4Companion guy here, blog post.Needed 2 weeks to get enough fixes to justify a new update - which is a good sign. Hopefully it'll all be debugged soon so we can get into the campaign mode stuff
>>96426342Very cool. Where's the big lad from?>>96427823Iron Sultanate's a fun faction from what I've heard, but they're the hardest to kitbash unfortunately so they're not as common as the others. Good luck, hopefully you can get the scene rolling.>>96428437Awesome stuff, keep up the good work.
>>96428453God be damned. This slut truly is the face of TC, isn't she?
>>96428801Ye
Which unit is this?
>>96427823IS is the faction I've seen the least of, so I encourage anyone getting into the game to go for them if they feel up for it. I was going to start with them, but I've never done any larger models and the lions+bull were kind of intimidating projects.
>>96428801She's both hot and a very unique design, she was bound to become the mascot to lure newfags in
>>96430780Just finished my Fida'i band. I just got into the game myself. I have the entire rest of the IS line showing up at my house on tuesday pretty excited. Playing first games tomorrow. I'm sure speed paints are frowned upon but I like how these turned out. Inspired by the immortals from FFXI
>>96433476From a distance they look good, only looking close does the color-bleed from section become obvious.Definitely IS to wear Indigo on the battlefield.
>>96433499yeah i could spend a lot more time actually cleaning them up with normal acrylics which, i did a tiny bit. But this took 5 hours and I'm more of a 6ft away look good kinda guy for skirmish games especially. I'll spend more time on stuff like the bull.
>>96433508The indigo not being a single shade and looking washed out in various uneven flows (following the flow of fabric and not across it) gives the impression that these fabrics are hand-dyed and thus more personal just something to wear. I think it adds a lot of character to them.I am also going to blatantly steal the idea with another color for my own.
>>96433585Hell yeah, boosts my confidence a bit since i was worried they were too shit and would be condemned.
>>96430661Alexander Black
>>96433476>>96433617they're looking cool anon, blue is a great choice of colour scheme I wish I could be the "won't look at them up close anyway" kind of painter, if I know I missed a spot even if it's in a place you can't see from the side or above I'll have to sort it out before I can continue with the model.
>>96428813Still waiting for a Tao Paipai witch.
>>96384666>666>Unholy trips of the TrenchThe boards at Nova look great bois remember to play with real terrain
>>96435988I'm usually a lot more anal but i wanted to see how fast i could reasonably paint 8-9 different models and have them look good for a game in a day. I'm happy but my next models i'll definitely go slower and i have more assassins showing up i'll try purple and black on them.
>>96435988I also worry people won't think it's "Grimdark enough" but oh well.
>>96433476Any tips for how you did the fabrics, I've been thinking about doing my iron sultanate warband green and gold.
>>96436749Primed them with a medium grey then zenithalled a bright white. Then just used Army Painter Speedpaint 2.0s. Periwinkle Purple and Magic Blue for my 2 fabrics. The only difference is the boots are Faded Ultramarine with agrax earthshade wash.
Thoughts on Anvil Industry's Brodies? They've even got what look like modified Iron Crosses on the brodie helms.Anybody ever printed Anvil stuff? How are their default supports?
>Warhammer had been completely niggerlicious lately>Jimmy, we have warhammer at home>Warhammer at home is just as gay as regular warhammer, is completely vapourwave and has not a shred of irony or self-awareness>Janny camps this thread and nukes any criticism immediatelyShiggy Diggy.
>>96439362>why teh fuck are they gatekeeping us, we just want to use the game as a political truncheonYouve become the trannies demanding the reigns anon, noone wants to talk about modern political shit in their games. Silence is not complicity.
Wish my store had some elevated stuff. Or just like 2 more trench pieces and walls for this terrain set but I think this is good for a 700 game
>>96440618Seems fine for a small game, but yea, I feel like a lot of tables for this are not quite doing it right I feel, there is a lot of rules for jumping and climbing terrain, and since everyone has guns it makes melee factions harder to run if the table is so open and lack areas of cover density.
>>96440618>>96440767Our tables usually look more or less like that, do you guys think that's a good amount of terrain or is it still not dense enough?Also please ignore how shit it looks, this is the first wargame for everyone in our group, so we're making and upgrading the terrain gradually as much as limited time and skill allow us
>>96440618be the change you wanna see buddy, you just need a little bit of styrofoam cut into rectangles and squares can make for amazing terrain if you just make the outlines look like the inside of a trench and make the top look like no-man's-land.>>96440767>>96441051ironically according to official rules you should only use like 6-8? pieces of terrain total, however we use like 40 (10~ big and the rest is fluff like ladders, barricades, stuff to just offer cover and break LOS) and our boards always end up looking fantastic, so we have no intention of changing.
>>96436070kek that would be fantastic, especially with his stiff pose >>96436719fuck 'em desu. it feels like a lot of people just dip their entire minis in a can of mud and call that a day. there are good grimdark or 'filthy' models, but I definitely think colours should shine bright here and there. humans love being flashy and looking distinguished, this is not an exception.
>>96441795>ironically according to official rules you should only use like 6-8? pieces of terrain totalthese rule is absolutely retarded honestly and we choose to interpret it as "at least that many" - really, with terrain this sparse the battle would just change into a shooting gallery for gunners
>>96436377Plastic kits are now effectively confirmed in the nova reveal, it showed a milking machine making a mold in a 20 second video. There was a lot of pics in the reveal about the great hunger. nova was a good time highly recommend narrative games over standard 1 offs
Got to play two games at 700 as my first two games. The only problem I had was with the second mission Relic Hunter the scoring is borderline entirely RNG with no secondary. Also I think the only thing that makes the Assassin Kabal able to perform is the super crazy expensive bow and the double attack swords.
>>96442613>Plastic kits are now effectively confirmed in the nova revealVery cool if true. Got anymore info? Sounds like something WGA would get in on.
>>96443939Nothing concrete only that backers will always come first, but they are actively setting up a vendor portal that your FLGS, can register which will be available soon. Tuomas pirinen is just a cool dude, he seems really down to earth, and plays HL. Mike Franchina absolutely loved that this project has gotten so much attention, his favorites are the pilgrimsTuoma is working on a tournament rule set, which should debut at Belgium later this year but stated that narrative play would always come first.Tuomas encouraged anons to write and play their own factions and that he release the balancing formula he uses soon... TMThe great hunger looks fantastic visitations and a lot of work was done to make sure their play style was distinct and unique which was a not difficult initially because black grail is already so well definedIf you have any questions please ask away anons!
>>96444520>>96443939Sorry about the bad swipe text nonsense, I will claim phone posting as reasonable on the commute after a big eventBrotherhood of hebrew knights are WIP but it's taking a while to give their flavor the perfect schyick from their real world counterpartsLikewise they're looking for eastern Asian experts to make sure they do asia justice when that time comes. The first campaign book comes out later this year: Carcass Front. Where you'll need to stop or ensure that the heretics release the leviathan God chained to the bottom of the sea in Genesis. It comes with a prophecy written for it by no shit a Trappist monk in Vatican city who plays TC with the other monks who apparently love it. If i remember more stuff I'll let you know anons
>>96444553Oh there's an official merch drop store on helgoods under trench crusade (Tuomas made a joke about it being in hebrew by default and to just change it to English)The narrative will also move forwards with time, no infinitely static bullshit where nothing matters like 40k.They are actively researching for the Americas factions but super tight lipped for nowThey'll always support 3D printingThey will support super MINOR named characters on the tabletop (ala Mordheim, the rogue was mentioned explicitly), but Tuomas doesn't wasn't the game to become hero hammer where every faction warband is run by their primarch when the warband is 15 dudes dying in a latrine ditch when they should be leading tens of thousands of men
>>96442309we came to the same conclusion.>if there's that little cover, why wouldn't everyone just do ranged-based warbands?>>96442798there are some changes coming to VP afaik, though it being rng in Relic Hunt remains an issue. then again, every single roll of dice is rng, so maybe it's what we deserve.>>96444553the mental image of monks rolling dice and moving their little figures around is comfy kek
>>96418381Those look great! Especially the shrine, the glowing faceplate looks rad
>>96421391>/tg/>anime-focused
>>96430780I feel like they're liked by plenty of people, but always like second or third most liked. I really would be interested in running their alchemist-focused detachment
>>96439362You likely meant vaporware and not vaporwave. Given this misspelling and spelling it the gay british way I'm guessing you're ESL, a phoneposter, or both, all of which invalidate your fagginess. Get ye gone
>>96444520>>96444553>>96444621>Tuomas encouraged anons to write and play their own factions Based.>he [will] release the balancing formula he uses soon... TMExtremely based.>tournament play comes second after narrative playBasedtacular.>Brotherhood of hebrew knights are WIP >eastern Asian experts to make sure they do asia justice when that time comesWonderful. I expect that the Asian theater will be another expansion, give how large of an area it will be covering.>Where you'll need to stop or ensure that the heretics release the leviathan I presume between that and all the lore documents, that Carcass Front will likely add Path of the Beast.>It comes with a prophecy written for it by no shit a Trappist monk in Vatican city who plays TC with the other monks who apparently love it.Utterly esoteric yet completely wholesome.>Tuomas doesn't wasn't the game to become hero hammer He really seems to have kept his fingers on the pulse of tabletop wargaming. He really seems like a smart designer and cool dude.Utterly happy to hear all this, thank you Anon.
>>96430780At the narrative event in Nova I played two IS, NA, TP, BG, and HL.From anecdotal evidence they seem pretty popular, though I and about a full third we're playing HL
>>96446143You're welcome anon, if you have any further questions don't hesitate to ask. If any if you guys can make it out to events I highly recommend you do so they're a phenomenal timeIn my last match there were dueling arty witches bombing everything from crosses on the trenches
>>96446178>>96446143Man this game has such a grassroots feel and great dudes in charge. The fact anyone can get into the game for like 50 bucks or less if they have a printer available to them is really refreshing especially in CURRENT TIMES. When we run a campaign at my LGS we have literally bigger turnout than any other game except the mega yearly Malifaux tournament. Because the games awesome, it's easy to learn, the fluff is awesome, and our store owner will literally print people models if they ask for a small fee.
>>96444553>Trappist monk in Vatican city who plays TC with the other monks who apparently love it. That's crazy if true lolWhat's the source on that?
>>96446589Tuomas himself, he put out a community call to find experts in the specific Latin the church uses (middle rennaissance or something that). And he got a couple candidates, but one memtioned that he used it daily for his jobSo Tuomas's interest got piqued and asked him how he'd learned it>well I learned it in seminaryAnd the discussion went on that he was a trappist monk in the Vatican.So Tuomas did abit of digging and validated that yes there had been orders from the Vatocan fir the Kiclstarter though previously it'd been assumed they'd been for the Swiss Guard lolThis could all be bullshit, but it definitely falls into what feels real on the truth is stranger than fiction scale
>>96446638It sounds fun but I'm not sure how true it is, I think trappists live in their monasteries and there's none in the Vatican. There's Tre Fontane in Rome (they also make trappist beer) but it's a few km from the Vatican.
>>96447043>I think trappists live in their monasteries and there's none in the VaticanNTA but the Abbot General lives in and works from Rome, and probably spends a lot of time in the Vatican. He probably has a few staff as well.
>>96444553>It comes with a prophecy written for it by no shit a Trappist monk in Vatican city who plays TC with the other monks who apparently love it.That's hilarious.
>>96444553Now I'm wondering if the monks all play faithful factions against each other or if there are monks painting heretic minis out there
>>96448747I'm surprised they have the time, if that is true. They wake up early to pray, and unlike laymen, their church services last hours. Then they eat, work and pray some more. They do that until sun sets, and its time for bed.
>>96449415I don't think monks have any kind of actual "free time". At best they have relax hours where they garden, read or do things for the community. Maybe they play Trench Crusade with local young people as a way to build the church community, who knows.
>>96444553i neeeeed hebrew knightsthere's just so much stuff i want from this game lmao
>>96450673>i neeeeed hebrew knights>there's just so much stuff i want from this game lmaoLol anon, these things take time, and I think we'd all prefer them to be done properly so that when they do come out we're wowed by how awesome they are desu
>>96450779Definitely. I'm just an impatient widdle baby, tbqh
Can't decide what flavor of IS I want to play in the next campaign at my store in a month. Assassin's are my favorite but not being able to bring the BULL and how basically required the 50 ducat bow is make the list super top heavy and low body count. Strong Siege Jezzail sappers are sick however.Alchemists seem really fun with some goofy stolen weapon options but I lose the giga chad captain and assassins. Azebs really aren't good here and only having 2 janissaries is rough. Lions just can't carry as hard as I'd like but they are fast.Defenders of the Iron wall are too ranged/campy for my tastes.So that leaves vanilla IS which seems like the way to go if i want to use assassins and bull in the same faction but I don't get any real spice. The yuzbashi being a fucking giga chad of a leader helps too and he's a lot cheaper than an assassin built out.
>>96451747If you've not tried it house of wisdom can do really funny things with takwyn homunculae. And because it's only 40 ducats too replace him if he dies, playing top heavy is less damagingYou also get all the abominations you could ever want
>>96444553>It comes with a prophecy written for it by no shit a Trappist monk in Vatican city who plays TC with the other monks who apparently love it.I just want to let you know this is the single most batshit sentence I have read in over a month.
>>96453501Yeah I saw that you can kind of basically make 2 lesser brazen bulls, and they both only cost 40 bucks to replace. I just love my spacetime assassins...
>>96455833How the fuck do they play? Write down their intentions because these dudes hardly speak outside directed commands from.a.higher up.
>>96446638There was a call for Latin translators in Discord, and Tuomas got a few applicants. The map and the prophecy might not be the only things in Latin in the rulebook.
Nobody at my lgs is interested in TC.I asked on the lgs’s discord and nobody responded.Guess I’m making tc models only for them to collect dust on my shelf.
>>96459633>Nobody at my lgs is interested in TC.>I asked on the lgs’s discord and nobody responded.Maybe see if anyone is willing to try a demo. It's hard to get people to try new games when they've not had a chance to try it out, and harder to get people to invest in a new tabletop game
>>96389440I am still yet to get any models for TC because I'm still holding out on the Synod getting stuff, they're fucking excellent conceptually.
>>96444520>>96444553>>96444621Sorry lads I'm retarded, I forgot somethingThere was an image of the stl for the official goetic warlock model, so that's coming in the super near futureLikewise rules for the combat biologist are coming very soon, he will be more dangerous based on the blood markers of the guy he's attackingThanks for putting up with me anons!
>>96459633>missed the campaign at my LGS because I didn't know about thr game>apparently the local mega lardass (who is a weird sycophant to the owner) and boomer owner are the only people who can run TC campaign/events>They don't want to run one right nowLowkey thinking of going to another store and seeing if they'll let me grass roots TC there. The problem is this other LGS feels like it's corporate run. Random new workers every few weeks and the only games they cater too are MtG and 40k. They also have an obscene amount of dice for dnd. I'm talking like a wall and a showcase just for dice
>>96461388>apparently the local mega lardass (who is a weird sycophant to the owner) and boomer owner are the only people who can run TC campaign/eventsMan that goes pretty counter to TC in particular and FLGS's writ large. If there's another store nearby it's probably worthwhile to go elsewhere instead, but if not well just run games from home with whatever minis you can find
>>96461388Just ask for some one off games. You don't have to do a whole campaign.
>>96455940>>96453501Homunculus are an interesting model since they become more cost effective in a campaign but are rarely worth it in a one-off.It will pretty much always cost more to turn a Homunculus into a second-X than it would be to just buy X - but the resurrection feature and the larger sizes of end-campaign warbands means that becomes a much better value for money.If you want one bull, you'd be better off buying a bull, but HoW can get you 2 almost-bulls.
Posting my dudes again, just because i can.I should really take a picture with the other 14 minis.>>96436719Bright is good sometimes.
>>96459977So far I've loved every faction. The lore and aesthetics. Except hebrew knights, which I will use only to create minis with very large noses. But who knows, maybe they will surprise me and be interesting.
>>96462838>Except hebrew knights, which I will use only to create minis with very large noses.I've found your hebrew knights anon
>>96461937I have been. But I want the full thing the game was designed around.>>96462696Look awesome anon.
>>96463074Not bad idea, anon.
>>96462696If everything is various shades of green, brown, and grey, then it just gets boring. Even on a darker model, it's best to include some splashes of colour. And of course, as yours show, going a little brighter is great too
Oh?
>>96466346equine dildos
>>96466359Maybe...
>>96466447Nah just all my extra IS
>>96466550I'm getting a touch grumpy, I ordered from only games 2 months ago and hw advent heard a damned thing for my extra hereticsWere you a kickstarter adopter or did you order after?
>>96463842They're quar fidwog infantry from wargames atlantic, if you do doll them up all in mud and trench gore make sure to post it here it'll be fun
>>96461388Yeah if they're shuffling employees no way you're gonna get a good vibe going for a community. If the people ostensibly running the show dont know who anyone is thats a problem.
>>96462696these are looking supreme, down to the highlights >>96461388>only some people are allowedwhy? are they not letting you run one? it's genuinely not that hard.>>96466550very nice.
>>96384666> TQTrying to get some writing done for my warband - Greed Court.
>>96476529>Trying to get some writing done for my warband - Greed CourtI too need to draft up a bit of backstory for my Heretics warband. A guy I played had a little pamphlet for his doods and it's just fun, I need to do the same
I have a feeling the combat medic will be near useless but I like this model anyway. Still WIP.
>>96478976Funnily enough, the medic has a quite good record of scoring objectives in our campaign so far, since nobody ever pays her much attention or targets her until suddenly she's already at the objective. Having a decent healer next to a model that's guaranteed to draw plenty of fire can be quite handy though
Is Wayne Barlow still kicking? Would be nice if they had him make some art for the setting as he already did so much incredible stuff for his Hell series. Seems a lot of the Trench Crusade are borrows from him already
Some of my dudes
>>96478976>>96479545getting an important unit up from being Downed before their next activation can be super useful
>>96412207Those are some deep trenches
>>96478976Yeah I sort of feel the same, looking at the rules, no practical experience though. I have theorized she might do well cost effective wize against hard targets when fireteamed with something else that can knock em down and have her ignore armour and clown on them.The flaw in this plan is kinda the fact that she still rocks zero +dice to hit meaning she's nothing special there, -but- if her fireteam friend can dunk something down she can use markers for it, given she gets +D to injure non-demonic/grail units that is certainly not nothing. But also shits the bed when the court comes rolling with their big dick monsters. But again, HL are popular and war wolves very common, mech infantry as well, anchorites or just whatever that is well protected.That's just my thoughts on the matter, she would come in cheaper than a heavy mech base, even more so when accounting for equipment. So with something that can bonk something down in melee, I think she might do ok.
Just got an email saying my models are on the way.Oddly my friend, who lives like 20-minute-drive from me, already got his models weeks ago.
>>96478976Honestly when I was first looking at the game I thought Heretics not having a way to medic off blood counters would be significant, but after playing I've come to realize that having mooks that close to actually use amedic bag is just not useful. Though maybe it's useful when too greasy herself off in bfe yoinking an obj
Sneak Peak from the WGA newsletter. I presume it's a stl, but them making terrain would make sense if they're the ones doing the plastic kit for TC that the other Anon mentioned. They've already got a weird war 1 sprue out, and I imagine a lot of people bought their stuff for kitbashing TC soldiers.>>96478976>>96480752Very nice stuff, Anons.
>>96481084You might achieve something similar and more flexible with shocktroopers and gas grenades.
>>96482347So its not geographic. They're sending them out per FIFO? Surely talking with the distribution company to find out how their delivery routes work would help them optimize sending out models in bursts instead of piece-meal as they get finished?
>>96461388>the only people who can run TC campaign/eventsWhy? Are events only allowed if they're store run? That's a really weird rule.
Anybody ever printed Anvilindustry stuff? How are their supports? I know that they do this "multi-shell" thing where certain things can be deleted off the model in Blender if one doesn't like certain details. I like their brodie's revenge stuff and they seem to have jumped onto the TC bandwagon.
>>96440767is this unironically time to bust out the 40k 2ed mantra of "the more terrain, the better the game"?
I'm temped to kitbash more Swiss Trench Ghosts.Pic related counts as Death Commando.
>>96491841out of curiosity, what defines them as 'Swiss'??
>>96491841Looks a little more 40k than Trench Crusade. probably because of the glowing bits and the pistol that looks kind of like one of the newer bolt pistols from this angle.
>>96491841Definitely feels more sci-fi, and way too clean. Maybe it'd feel right if he were covered in rust and gore? Ultimately it's agnostic and you can paint whatever minis you want, it's just a touch off
>>96491654Yeah, absolutely. From my experience aside from some dedicated melee heavy hitters (which most faction can only have a small number of), ranged weapons definitely tend to be stronger than melee in TC, do you need plenty of terrain if you don't want them to dominate. Also, it looks cool and opportunity to use jumping/climbing rules is always fun >>96491841He does look cool and the paintjob is very nice, but I do agree with others that the camo and weapons make him look more modern or even futuristic
>>96492060Yeah, I was limited on appropriate bits. The silenced autopistol is from Necromunda. >>96492043If I get some WargameAtlantics kits. I'll do the appropriate ww2 uniforms. I used that green-gray color for the body under the duble cloak, but it's barely visible.I also plan on doing some equipment of the TAZ57 (Alpenflage) era, but only for special characters. This guy has the camo cover and the gun is black-scoffed metal like the SIG 510.
how come every 3D STL creator has suddenly jumped on the bandwagon for making minis for TC. Does TC even have that big of a userbase to justify that, especially in a niche like 3D printing?
>>96493051The simple answer is >Yes, TC has that much appeal and userbase
>>96493051Beyond everything, TC is pro alt-minis in a way the big fish of wargaming isn't. So if nothing else its a horse worth backing.
>>96493051>Is it that big?Not really but somewhat.It is the only alt-grimdark with "good credentials": one of the creators of Mordheim and ex-Warhammer and Diablo concept artist, caused a big rumor online and it is miniature agnostic.Everybody can create minis for the game, and it can have so many flavors that everybody can add their own.
>>96493051Yes and no, but it's shiny, new, and minis agnostic, so it's encouraged a cottage industry to pop up
What sort of music do you anons use as a background for your games? We usually blast soundtracks from Dawn of War games, but I feel like something new for a change would be nice. Longer playlists/soundtracks/albums especially welcome
>>96496593https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RyfaRs3dM&list=PLb0O8Nfv2T1xKPBoQVFFcsdj3wsoQqLkJ
Any good recommends for battle reports? I feel like I've not seen too many good ones
>>96500444Miniature Game Montage does them sporatically but they're great simply for not being live - cuts out all the umm-ing and ah-ing.
>>96496593There's a 40K music channel called Vox Caster and he makes amazing music, especially fitting for TC because he uses actual catholic/orthodox chants in the mix https://youtu.be/aHoHoiiQocg
>>96485189You forget, NA has no access to gas grenades, they got incendaries but they only go through armour on 6x2.
>>96500444The glaston's depot campaign from tabletop titans is good with high production quality.
>>96501800Main takeaway from them is to roll dice on a greenscreen so you can color-chroma it out later and overlay it onto the action in post.
How's the Tabletop Simulator scene for this game? Are there any proper scripts to run it? Do you have 3D models/scans of the units? Looking to get into it.
>>96504093most people use the Hero Forge workshop module or whatever. Has every model for all the factions. They're not "official" but they're darn close.Also Yes scene is active as loathe as I am to say it, the official discord has people looking for pick up games regularly. Also they run campaigns through there as well if you want.
>>96504610>as loathe as I am to say itelaborate
Sorry my fellow /trench/ers I have been gone a minute since my last posting of my Purple Fida'i. Today, I bring you, the bull.
>>96504614Oh I think discord communities especially ones that hold lots of important information suck is all. They're good people actually that i've met and played.
>>96504619I wish the head looked more similar to the art
>>96504692Yeah me too, big metal helmet would be better than the like weird gimp mask with old roman horse eye covers but it is what it is.
>>96504861It's also about the feel of it. New helmet looks like it's just a bull head under there. Old helmet gives a feel of "oh, this is some fucked up quasi-human creature, they put the helmet on to hide the horrible face". If you showed me the mini and told me it was from AoS I'd believe it
>>96504988Eh it's not flanderized enough for AoS. But I also agree with you in terms of it being a big weird bull homonculus. Kaitech has a bull but everything other than the head looks worse. It looks like a fucking storm fiend lol
>>96468098Sorry it took me so long Anon. I got these off some dude on ebay lol. Showed up in 5 days.
>>96471176>why? are they not letting you run one? it's genuinely not that hard.This store is kind of weird in that, unless the owner is promoting it, people will barely show up. Also they are the old head/we were og backers so we are the show runners around here type even though I've played like 15 games in the last two weeks and they get rules wrong to people's detriment.
>>96505140>I got these off some dude on ebay lol. Showed up in 5 daysMaybe I'll just order some there then I need a second faction to run demos solo anyways
>>96505164If you're american I ordered from furril. They will hook you up with a few extra models too if you ask. They threw In a trench dog and extra jannisary for like 2 bucks. Shipped amazing in a tight tiny box and rhe print quality is great.
>>96503285Derp I am retarded and you are of course correct, that kinda makes my point irrelevant, my bad.
>>96505226Thanks anon, I'll need to go look em up
>>96493051Kinda. TC team is pretty cool, and with the proliferation of 3d Printing/ open source rules, they've been able to get the ball rolling at a good pace. Hopefully the success sticks.>>96496593Bolt Thrower, lots of Bolt Thrower.
>>96503333Quads of truth. I wish there was more like it since it really shows off how good this game can be in terms of high-effort content
>>96505689>>96496394>>96495444>>96494191>>96494096so is it worthwhile starting a TC sculpting line? i make fantasy minis at the moment, but am more focused on RPG/DND stuff than anything wargame/skirmish related. Just wondering if there's a niche/hole that needs to be filled at all or if it's already a very saturated space. Like are there particular factions that don't have much love? Are people making their own factions?
>>96506063>is it worthwhile starting a TC sculpting line?Honestly at this point you'd be pretty late to the party. It's got a lot of very stiff competition and a fair amount of it is now free sculpts, and since it is print focused that makes it tougher. Also the official line is getting no shit plastic mini kits in the near future>Just wondering if there's a niche/hole that needs to be filled at all or if it's already a very saturated space.If any aren't at market saturation yet it'd be the black grail and iron sultanate. But also it's agnostic so people can just bring their guys from 1001 Arabian nights or their ducked up zombies and demons models.You might see success but it's be tough unless your designs are genuinely inspired
>>96506063Dirge of the great hegemon has basically no STLs and it’s a core game variant
>>96506063If you're interested in entering. In your hobby time, draft up something and put it out there. The official discord allows you to promote your STLs so you could float it there to get some eyes on it. If people like it a lot I'd think about putting more effort. If it flops and you have a day job, don't quit it for trench crusade. But I've been buying files for weird little one off models or variants so you might hit a good thing.
>>96384666>TQPirate themed Naval Heretic BandProbably already been done but I wanted to stick little hats on the models
>>96439362Stop trying to politics the fucking gamesI just want to grill and paint the fucking minis.
WHEN ARE THE FINAL RULES AND MODELS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE
>>96507279Nobody knows>>96507154I love this game draws on real life alt history but I cannot fathom how people will invest any energy into caring about geopolitical shit (of modern day) into their miniature toy soldiers
>>96506944my day job is running a sculpting studio, so I'm more gauging if this market is worth even looking at or if it's already become saturated by many players. We have a few minis that wouldn't be out of place in TC, but haven't made anything expressly for it. Dipping our toes in the pond by making a single mini that could proxy for it isn't a bad idea though.>>96506894thanks anon!>>96506840Thanks for the honest advice. I was afraid that would be the case but honestly looking at the Iron Sultanate stuff, I really like it. I do find Arabian Nights stuff doesnt sell super well as a theme due to nicheness, which is probably why it doesn't get much love. It's one of my favourite fantasy themes to make but always does shit.
>>96506063Theres a few that dont have art or models still We dont know what the Black Grail Dirge faction is suppose to look like>have been around since before modern wars, enemies of everyone, including hell, dont have beelzebubs blessings, actually use guns unlike base BG, names units as "executor" and "mourners" and "weepers" etc implying a funeral procession. Makes me think they are like Dark Souls hollows or something rather than straight up zombies.And factions like Trench Pilgrim Cavalcade and Methodious dont have any art either>Old testament. Wear blood as armour and follow the old ways and reject communicants, in return, their leader has the god hand. Everything about this faction revolves entirely around their leader being able to slap demons into dust without even using a weapon and getting gods blessings rather than relying on equipment.>Methodious, nerds, focuses on mechs and guns of all things. Based in Greece at Mount Athos. Seem something along the lines of skitariiHonestly, they would do well to add a little accompany book or resource for art of teh game and the factions with lore bits. Theres a lot of stuff that obviously doesnt fit into the rulebook but does exist.
>>96507402>Thanks for the honest advice. I was afraid that would be the case but honestly looking at the Iron Sultanate stuff, I really like it. I do find Arabian Nights stuff doesnt sell super well as a theme due to nicheness, which is probably why it doesn't get much love. It's one of my favourite fantasy themes to make but always doesYou're welcome anon, unfortunately reality it's always less ideal than it should be, the other anon is right though, pick a centerpiece model and see if it sells well enough, maybe think about. I hope it works sculpt anon. Which studio is yours if you don't mind me asking?
I dont own a 3d printer or know anyone with one, onlygames.co is pretty good right? Ive heard good things about them before and 45 euro for a bunch of TC minis sounds goodAnyone with experience or alternatively a better option?
>>96514275Only games has QC issues and are backed up till November at least. You can find better on ebay as another anon mentioned
>>96514316Never used eBay I'm a yuropoor how reliable is it? Etsy also has sellers I believe but idk if it's better or worse
This and Turnip28 existing are such a relief, the 40k price hiking 24/7 is just depressing and I feel like the charm or WH lore is slowly being lost
>>96514330Just like any direct sales service it's only as reliable as the vendor you buy from, that said I've never had issues though horror stories aren't uncommon. Etsy would be about the same so find whatever models look best from someone who has a high rating
>>96505226Got a link? Can't find 'furril't. retard
>>96506063Theres stuff that dont have models as other have said. Plus if you're a history nut I'm sure you can find some obscure sect to make models for that people will cream over.
>>96514530Nvm found it, was a dude on Ebay you mentioned earlier in the thread.
>>96514364If you want another charming one there's also QuarYou have characters like "Captain Scrimbly Bum" and they look like something out of moomin. And you read the lore and journal entries and it's like "I've seen good men die screaming their mother's names"Very fun
>>96514821Those models are goofy in the best way possible
>>96516213They really are, it's a good time to look at models to use as proxies
>>96518799Made a promise to myself I'd never go into turnip28 until I could reliably turn the veg in my fridge into proxies. That was a terrible idea, but I'm still holding myself to it.
>>96519001>until I could reliably turn the veg in my fridge into proxiesThey added a new unit to the line up, it's called a Lump - an ogre/giant equivalent stat-wise - which can be literally a massive blob of whatever you want. You could easily slap a yukon gold onto a base and use it as a unit.
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>>96444520>>96443939I'm not following TC at all but I do follow Tuomas because of Mordheim. I assume pic related is a quite good confirmation of plastic kits incoming.
>>96520846
Since I'm already here anyway, sell me on TC. I don't buy the "muh converting and kitbashing' sweet-talk since I have it with a dozen other games I can already play with my friends. How is Trench Crusade in terms of rules design, balance and gameplay? Is it actually a decent system or simply mediocre rules accompanied by a hobbyist honey trap?
>>96520870>Is it actually a decent system or simply mediocre rules accompanied by a hobbyist honey trap?Very decent rules. The rules were written by Tuomas Pirinen, a veteran designer from the good era of 40k (6th fantasy, 4th 40k, Mordheim, etc). The rules are free and in the OP, so feel free to give them a flick through.
>>96520870It’s pretty good like early stages Mordheim with the fewer number of warbands. Like Mordheim it isn’t balanced but that’s not a question you should be asking in a narrative game
>>96520846All I really wants is bits sets for conversions, I hope they get around to that.
>>96433617>>96433476>makes me want to finish painting my IS band>don't know if it will be any good on the table tho>is a heavy azeb skirmisher warband even viable?>trench shields, shotgun, bayonet is my standard equipment
>>96522642Every list worth its salt runs minimum 3 azebs sometimes up to like 6. Usually because IS has the worst armor bypass in the game. You always run like 2 flamethrower azebs. After that it's dealers choice. Sounds like it could be fun.
Where do you guys find your STLs? Anyone have a pirate link, I wanna grab the trench wolf and artillery witch.
>>96503333There is also the war for the holy grail with playtest. Literally one episode and nothing special as such while the narration and game is speedy enough and enjoyable, but I enjoyed the guy playing HL had a clear death commando he placed down when it was stealthed. Really cool.
>>96496593Hot take:https://youtu.be/HofoFYxqIgU?t=518Or, a bit more cliché:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHw4GER-MiE
>>96505226Thank you for the recommendation anonI found him and got an order coming
Some of my MHI. First try doing sponge-weathering, went way overboard in a couple places. Black templar transfers work great for TC tho>>96522642A basic azeb with just a jezail and alchemical ammo is probably the best chaff infantry in the game (at least imo). Very cheap for a +1 ranged shooting attack at decent range. Like the other guy said, 1-2 with flamethrowers is also good. Idk about shield and shotguns since azebs don't love melee combat, but azebs as a whole are totally viable
>>96519001The idea of a warband with a shelf life is very funny to me, idk why.Put a real clock to motivate you and your friends to play of "we will contract a foodborne illness otherwise".
does the kingdom of alba have lore yet
>>96438306I have not used those, I made my warband out of various Wargames Atlantic sets of ww1/ww2 British and some 12th century footmen.
>>96525368Man I wish I could paint weathering like that, my attempt looked like shit to the point where Im not even going to bother with it.
>>96520870The rules are great if you are like me and can't stand the tedious amount of confirming damage of 40k. I also personally enjoy a more focused warband that you kit out how you see fit rather than just having huge blobs with limited equipment choices on a per-model basis
>>96525928I prefer skirmish shit. But I always hated how half the fucking gameplay of 40k was huge chunks of time where you would just be sitting around watching the other guy move shit. The alternating activations keeps me engaged more, and has the battles feel more fluid.
>>96523153Seconding this
I am living in a small apartment whats a good quality printer that isnt huge as fuck? I might as well print shit myself with all these unreliable shops in yuroshit
>>96527007Do you have a garage or dedicated space entirely separated from your living area worth sealed does and good ventilation? If not you can't really do resin printing because the chemicals are extremely toxic
>>96527007Don't listen to him. Breathe in the fumes. Become resin-pilled.
>>96527416Sadly only sealed not so much ventilation so I guess its not happening thenfuck>>96527427based
>>96527536If you can spend a decent amount on an fdm printer you can get decent quality prints but it'll be more expensive for faster output, and way stronger prints, but more fiddling with print settings, and lesser qualityBut that will work quite well for a wel ventilated room
>>96525649Fwiw, I think it was just rhinox hide and then a silver lightly sponged onto edges and some flight panel areas. I think it was followed up with a brown-black oil wash after, too. Nothing too complicated
>>96525989Yes, I forgot how much I prefer alternate activations as well! It's the superlative system
>>96523153>>96526629go lurk in 3dpg newfriends
>>96504861>>96504692>>96504619Anons, wearing gold is haram, y'know?>my captain wears a gold breastplate because fuck the rules, I'm important
>>96528659It could be brass
>>96496593>made an entire playlist specifically themed to christian, world war 1 or satanist music>whenever i'm at the LGS it's too loud to also add music, everyone would just become louder due to the extra noise and create a cacaphony >remove playlistin general, I'd recommend Kanonenfieber, Batushka, Powerwolf, Sabaton, and I guess some Ghost songs that don't sound like scoobydoo chase scenes (Year Zero for instance).
https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/trench-missionariesWargames Atlantic is getting in on the Trench Crusade action.What are your thoughts, bros?
>>96514330I've been using etsy for all things miniature (if I found something specific I want), just make sure there are good recent reviews and you'll usually be completely fine. >>96520870It's very easy to get into, but still has a lot of depth.Regardless of if you just wanna have a short little battle or a longrunning campaign with RPG elements and what not, it's got you covered.I'd say the only thing you "can't" really do is massive battles, but so long as you increase the allowed ducat count (the money you spend on units and their equipment) you could have as big battles as you'd like.
>>96530332it feels like they missed their mark, this feels like "lets do steampunk, but also here are some random knight helmets"
>>96530363I always found Wargames Atlantic to do a good job, I guess you're right and they had to drop the ball somewhere. Even so it isn't even that bad.
What do you guys think the next warband is going to be?I think it's probably going to be path of the beast, considering that right now there's an imbalance of variety towards the faithful
>>96530584So you mean after the ceaseless hunger that's currently being made by creature caster?
>>96530584basically confirmed to be great hunger black grail?also anyone know how to do silver armour with green fabric
>>96530332>7 figures for $45The fuck?
>>96530332Really doesn't do it for me. 7 dudes for $68 ausbux and it feels more Victorian-era than anything TC. That paint job also doesn't do it any favours. Man that's a shame.
>>96530332They don't seem horrific enough. NA had the anti-tank hunters as prominent showings for their art to show how monstrous they really are (and how deep mankind will fall to the level of their enemies in the sake of survival). The machine armor is also weird to me how does a guy get connect his legs from the torso through the actuators? I guess it seems more robot than diesel powered armor. I feel like there's potential with this range but something is missing. The mooks do feel about right though
>>96532498That's what it is the mooks don't have a ton of orthodox or catholic symbols on them which is why they look mostly right but not quite
>>96532506other than orthodox and catholic, are there any other sects that would fit properly in the setting? I know jack squat about middle-ages christianity
>>96532718Snake handlers? Aesthetic might be difficult to portray in minis tho.
>>96532937Also they're not medieval
>>96532718Mongol Christianity. At the time it was a fusion between Nestorianism Christianity, traditional Mongolian and/or Chinese beliefs, Buddhism, and Manicheism. They claimed their beliefs were direct from Apostle Thomas, and his reliance on wandering monks/priests to spread the gospel suited their nomadic lifestyle. During the Crusades, Prester John was sometimes considered to have been Mongolian (Toghrul, usually). Supposedly they had a static church in Karakorum, but also dedicated Yurt-Churches that wandered around with the hordes (Qara Khitai, Keraites, Ongud, Naimans, the Merkit were noted to have large numbers of Christians, some of them having Christian leaders and/or marrying Christian Princesses). They obvious diverged in their beliefs due to the distance and the lack of central religious authority, for example; Jesus was known as the worlds strongest Shaman (also Jesus sounded like Yesu, the number 9 which was sacred to Mongols), Adam was a Buddha,, the Cross was also pointing to the Four Winds (they also wore crosses, and even tattooed them on their bodies), etc - also of note Christianity didn't forbid eating meat or drinking alcohol, unlike Buddhism and Islam, which helped it spread. They were considered by a lot of Christian in name only, but also Christian enough for the Kingdom of France to attempt alliances with them during the Crusade (the Mongols said nah, you're either a tributary or massacred).It is a little poorly documented, due to Mongols not having too much in the way of written records, but it was broad and varied, so you could easily justify your own specific fusion of any of the ideas from the various influences.
>>96533047They also put a lot more emphasis on Jesus having wandering and healing the sick and survived death (rather than necessarily just dying for our sins), and they liked to imagine the wandering tribes as more warrior-like and horse nomad-like.
>>96532718I'd love to see the apostolic Armenian church. They're not as well talked about in most religious circles, but the history is very interesting.Plus with how Turkey has fallen and the caucuses are being pushed into, you can give them a really good narrative. Maybe with references to the real world armenian persecution.I imagine them as like, really playing up using the mechanized infantry as cover. Literal martyr shield walls and such.
Knights of avarice seems pretty baller>Get to be pimpin>Priest has access to a situationally good power relative to puppet master>Hold_still_and_let_me_gas_you.exeOf course no death kommandos suck
Am I retarded or does the SMG not seem worth it given the automatic rifle has greater range chesper cost and is also assault and 2 shots? Being able to shoot 2 different tafgets doesn't seem worth it.>>96533704I like their narrative but honestly not their limitations and rules. The coin hammer is cool though.
>>96533869>Am I retarded or does the SMG not seem worth it given the automatic rifle has greater range chesper cost and is also assault and 2 shots? Being able to shoot 2 different tafgets doesn't seem worth it.It's absolutely worth it if you only have to pay 25 ducats for them
>>96533956>geesh naval raiders why does your mom let you have cheap SMGs
>>96430661>Buundawk Saynts...>muh fayvuhret mooveh...
>>96451747love the whole iron guts design, this is close to an idea I had for a superhero campaign character, basically iron man/cyborg/robocop where my armor is a man-sized space marine dreadnought. Super-powered via being permanently integrated into a powersuit, whose power supply unit is now a part of my metallic lower digestive system. I even had a skull motif.Not like I was ever going to do anything with the concept, but dang it always sucks to see someone else has come along and done your idea better than you.
>>96533047>Christianity didn't forbid eating meat or drinking alcohol, unlike Buddhism and Islam, which helped it spreadIts funny how well that works. Some slavic king in a story converted to orthodoxy rather than islam, because christianity allows alcohol.
as a DG enthusiast, I cant express enough how much I adore the BG minis, goddamn it man I need to get a printer or find a good service in my shitty little country already
>Units downed and engaged in combat with the lion of Yabir can't stand up even if the lion is downedExcuse you? Doesn't this just mean that if you go down in combat with a lion you just have to take it as you can't fight back, have other units either kill the lion or force it to gtfo due to danger.
>>96522701>>96525368I have 1-3 regular azebs, but I keep the skirmishers because they push for objectives and shooty denial.
>>96533869I run Naval Raiders with the following:Please note that we play one-off games with 900 ducats and 8 GP, not campaign rules.-priest with blas staff, SMG, reinforced armor-artillery witch-anointed with AMR and hellblade-2X legionaries w/ grenade launchers, standard armor-6X troopers with SMG’s, bayonets, trench shieldsShort of the arty witch and anointed, I don’t really have any models capable of a quick knockout. Instead I use the GL’s and swarm of 7 SMG troopers to constantly apply blood markers to enemy models, then just fuck with them all game using said markers.And when you have 7 guys making 2 attacks each turn, you’d be surprised what they can bring down.They are, however, absolutely not worth glory points.
>>96534317Dropping a couple smg lads for a chorister with a flamer seems like a good call here, but i like the listAlso the lack of infiltrators makes me sad though you don't strictly beed then given how mobile you are already
>>96533869You must confuse it because the auto rifle is equal in cost in the heretic legion (provided you're not naval raiding party) and for new antioch the automatic rifle is more expensive than the SMG. For the others, they don't have access to both.There is also the limit factor where both new antioch and the heretic legions are more limited in how many assault rifles they can have relative to SMGs. Another rather significant fact in favour of the SMG, it is shield compatible while the assault rifle is not.AR>More expensive or equal in cost>Can't combo with a shield>Can't target multiple units>Has longer rangeSMG>Equal or lesser in cost>Can combo with shield>Lesser range>Can attack two targets during one activationYes the range is a meaningful factor, but for NA the cost is equal if you add a shield on top and -1 to injury is -1. Like yeah if he's gonna sit it out and shoot from afar, AR is probably better but if that's the case you might as well splurge for the machinegun and get 3 attacks instead of 2, which can also fire att different targets (provided they are within 6 of eachother) since you're probably not going to assault anything, sure there is drawback with it ending your activation, but still, an extra shot for 10 ducats.
>>96391476The game fully advertises its grimdark gore aesthetic, why would anyone be upset? Its like going to a Cannibal Corpse live gig and getting upset about their album covers. The fuck did you expect from a band called Cannibal Corpse? Sunshine and rainbows?
>>96534297I wanna say yes? I cant find anything about being able to attack when you are downed
>>96534345I used to run infiltrators, I dropped them to put some armor on my grenadiers after a sniper turned them both into chunky salsa and cost me the game.I have an alternate list where I drop the AMR and a trooper for a death commando and a team of three infiltrator troops, all with SMGs and one with a Hell blade/legionary upgrade.It worked pretty well, I’d say.
>>96534317>>96534613If you drop the reinforced armor to standard and buy a shield for your priest that gets you back 15 points to spend elsewhere anon good shit tho
>>96391476Anon, you are working backwards from "I don't like this guy" to "this is why I don't like this guy". Be honest and return to whatever Social Media hell spawned you.
>>96534297You are still able to attack while downed, but it is at -1 dice because you are downed.
>>96535040Responding to myself because I don't think I was clear: the attack just has a -1 dice modifier because you are downed. E.g. if you attack with a downed model that has +2 dice in melee, it would fight at +1 dice while downed.
i have not interacted with anything trench crusade related since the beginning of the year, but i have have read that the IP and the new lore has been infested with insufferable lefties. This is the only place i can ask, how truth is that ?
>>96535213>muh leeeftiiists!>btw guys I dont really interact with the thing but muh leeeftiiists!Fuck off you goddamn culture war nigger. If you are only gonna interact with it because you felt some culture war calling you can turn around and go back to whatever shitpit of beelzebub you came from.
What is the point of the warwolf being artificial? The keywoard doesnt come with inherent benefits or drawbacks according to the keyword section. The witch, lions and bulls also have artificial in their abilities (artificial life/body) which causes different effect and the lion and bull arent even subject to the artificial keyword (which doesnt do anything anyway?). Seems like something that needs cleaning up.
>>96535608Tuomas can add things later that impacts Artificial creatures. Alternately you can come up with some stuff to make it into a real keyword for flavor. Maybe certain objectives that require not being artificial too capture etc.
>>96535520Do you think i care by choice retard?, culture war shit is nearly inescapbale, it permeates everything and it eventually erodes any remotely cool traits in fiction by endless purity testing.i have been following the project when it only was a concept for nearly 2 years, i have only taken a break from following it for some months
>>96535754>some months>beginning of the yearsOne is 9 months, the other is a max of 4. Which one is it?
>>96535786>max of 4 yeah, close to 8 months is short time it doesn't matter if i say "some", nor its relevant
>>96535754>Do you think i care by choiceYes. You are choosing at this point to take the word of anonymous voices on how politically left/right a war game is. Reflect on that. Please. Reflect on that.
>>96535754>eventually erodes any remotely cool traits in fiction by endless purity testing.Implies he dislikes the culture war for how it invokes purity testing, but invokes purity testing himselfHow strange. May I suggest you make a discord account and visit the TC discord yourself to test their purity?
new models when
>>96535608None, it really shouldnt be since the keyword says nonorganic in the description.
>>96506840>Also the official line is getting no shit plastic mini kits in the near futureI know this post is like 5 days old but I can stress enough how much I would love to see plastic kits of TC I genuinely like this setting much more than Warhammer at this point
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>>96535213It’s not so much “culture war” material, although good ol’ Mike’s done himself no favors in that regard.It’s moreso that he keeps writing and drawing stuff that teases new factions and models without ever actually developing anything. He’s like an edgy 12 year old with ADHD that needs to be reigned in by Tuomas on a regular basis.
