WARCRY LIVES! Edition Previous thread>>96312229>Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team, Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim, Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds, Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster, and any other GW system and board game are welcome.▶News: Touchline Tactics – How to counter common playshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/buo482id/touchline-tactics-how-to-counter-common-plays/▶News: A massive Warcry update paves the way for the Helsmiths of Hashuthttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/r8cdyjiv/a-massive-warcry-update-paves-the-way-for-the-helsmiths-of-hashut/▶News: Designers’ Notes – How we made the Gundabad™ Catapult Trollhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/4bf3qmed/designers-notes-how-we-made-the-gundabadtm-catapult-troll/▶News: Fréaláf Hildeson and Olwyn arrive in Middle-earth™ Strategy Battle Gamehttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jdaeerrz/frealaf-hildeson-and-olwyn-arrive-in-middle-earthtm-strategy-battle-game/▶News: Middle-earth™ FAQ – Designer’s commentary on the new editionhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jasyy6qx/middle-earthtm-faq-designers-commentary-on-the-new-edition/>Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V>The previous archive links are all dead and any time someone tries to make a new one it gets taken down. If there is content you're looking for ask in the thread and someone might help you out!> TQ: What do you think the future will hold for Warcry? Are you excited it isn't dead or worried we'll get an all new™ edition?
>TQStill expecting it to get renamed to mosscairn. Hopefully it comes with a monster fucker warband for soulblight.
>>96420412I don't get the reference but yeah I can definitely see a monster fucker sbgl warband. They've been definitely heading in that direction.
Bloodbowl 7sI love it. I love it so much.11s is fun but I really like how quick and "condensed" it is. Even if a game is going shit I can quickly get into a new scrum
>>96420636why are they black. Looks great either way.
>>96420650based on warcraft draenor orcs, specifically the Bleeding Hallow Clan
>>96420412>mosscairnBit of a jump from the more generic warcry though, I guess that may be the point?
>>96420785If that's the new season of Warcry this year it'll be around October for spooky factor.
>>96420636Are the files handy anywhere for the crowd/pitch?
If I got a heretek and I confer blaze to a grenade launcher, if I fire a smoke round it's basically white phosphorus, right? I'm guessing it's also just the initial hit that has the chance to cause blaze and walking in and out of the smoke would not cause blaze check to proc?
>>96421501Both the crowd and the pitch are Kraken Studios. they got their own site and a mmfI really like them
Staring at 42 ruffians, maybe starting Sharkey's Rogues was a mistake.Or maybe I need to stop being a little bitch.
>>96421505Smoke weapon does not cause hit therefore blaze is completely useless on it.
Which edition of MESBG is the most fun to play? I own the 2018 version, but I haven't touched it in quite a long time, preferring instead to play War of the Ring. However, there are times when I'd like to run something like a skirmish as a prelude to a big battle, and I'm curious how the big 2005 one ring blue book compares to 2018? Does the blue book contain everything you need, just like WOTR, or do you also need to source the faction books? On a related note, how do the supplementary books compare to the ones for the 2018 edition? Better, worse, different?Basically, want to know if it's worth my time ebay hunting for the 2005 version and its supplements, or sticking with 2018 and hunting for its supplements.
Are there any blogs or video channels out there that are still doing Epic 40k battle reports?
Some poxwalkers turned into mutant scum for an outcast gang.
>>96424848And some more
In Necromunda, if your scenario says to randomly select your crew... does this mean your leader may not be chosen? What happens if your leader doesn't come along?
>>96425927You just play without your leader that game.
>>96420636>>96420650Its kinda off yet fitting they are painted in a human skintone
>>96425927What >>96426565 said - if you randomise 6 dudes from a crew of 4 juves, 3 gangers, 2 champions and a leader, it's entirely possible you'll be fielding 2 gangers and 4 juves.>>96424848>>96424893Those look sick - good job, anon.
>>96420636Why does the one player have a transsexual aura?
>>96429312We are both ugly obese "incel" men...wait that doesnt really rule out troons does it?
>>96429929Lol
>>96429929I'm talking about the one with the troon flag marker stuck around it's base.
>>96423144Kinda want to do 2018 lists with the newest profiles. I hated special strikes and felt that way too many characters had F6.
>>96431777oh I just did cyan and magenta because I needed something flashy and they are cyberpunk colours
>>96433855Well he's certainly radiating a particular vibe =p
Is Norse a decent beginner team?
>>96434666Everyone has the most important skill in the game, players are cheap enough where if they die you don't really need to care.I'd say so
Im trying to get my 8 year old nephew into games. I think blood bowl would be cool but I worry about his attention span and complicated rules. Should I get the newest blood bowl starter from a few years back, an old version of the game like the OG or kerrunch instead?
>>96435273Just play blitzbowl man. It's bloodbowl with objective for scoring like Warhammer Underworld, players died very fast but you get to bring them back so even if someone played poorly they wouldn't feel completely curbstormped.
>>96423800doubtful. Epic 40k was the least popular edition of Epic by a large margin. and it died before the internet really supported video anything.
Played my first game of MESBG today. It was very fun to see Shagrat kill Gorbag, though I'm sure I got almost all the rules of the game wrong
If I want to pick up underworlds for the first time as a new player (to play casually with friends), is Harrowdeep an okay place to start? Is Emberguard better as a new player? My understanding is that older warbands are somewhat compatible with newer sets and GW releases some (?) updated cards for the older warbands. I was thinking of getting both to have the 4 teams if compatible. Nothing is very clear as much as I search, but this was kind of helpful https://spentglory.com/2023/06/21/can-i-use-this-old-warband-a-beginners-guide-to-the-shadespire-season/
>>96429929lmao
>>96437535New edition is not compatible with old edition, including card and board, warbands use universal cards, they still had their gimmicks and 3 abilities to uses. usually 1/game. Not all old warband will get this however, warbands that didn't get rule in new edition will use the generic rule that is pretty boring.>Harrowdeep Probably the worst expansion of all time, and GW had reprint those Stormcast on so many set (including the upcoming 4 packs one) you could probably find them for cheap on Ebay or B&N.For starting Embergard is good, if you want more warbands get one of the 4-pack from the link, or buy split individual warband for cheaper, or wait for the upcoming new 4-pack. You also want to buy, or print more decks. There're also a new expansion coming but it's only come with 2 decks, Embergard has 4.>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eueoinsr/saturday-pre-orders-chaos-above-underworlds-below/
>>96435313Is Blitz Bowl fun for adults too? I want to get my friends into minis/tabletop
>>96439470Fun is subjective, it's a smaller and faster game with no campaign and management like regular BB, so it can be more newbie friendly (but some people considered the management is the fun part of the game, hence why fun is subjective). Blitz Bowl ultimate second edition is what you should be looking for, it's also come with additionals team cards for 23 teams that sold separately. The team you get from the box is only half of a normal Blood Bowl team so you won't be playing a Blood Bowl game with it.Cards and Rules are available online so if you don't want to get the Blitz Bowl box, so you can print it, get a team or Blood Bowl starter box (from GW or 3rd party) and play the different "-bowl" game that spawn from it ( Blood Bowl, 7, Dungeon Bowl, Blitz Bowl,.... )
>>96439470>is it funYes, especially for beginners, especially if you add beer.
>>96439470My girlfriend would never try bloodbowl but blitzbowl seems like a good gateway drug
Working on an artscale rhino for necromunda with detailed interior that actually holds ten 25mm based miniatures.Roughly 150% the size of a GW kit.
Is there a new bloodbowl season coming soon? I want to get a starter set but I feel like the new season is around the corner
Anybody know where I can get the Soul Forge Studio Battlefleet Gothic STLs? They seem to have removed all of them for purchase. It would be a true shame if they became lost media.
>>96444734yep>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gikf8db9/blood-bowl-returns-for-a-new-season-of-mayhem/
>>96444734https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gikf8db9/blood-bowl-returns-for-a-new-season-of-mayhem/
>>96446506>>96446533BLOOD BOWL LIVES!?
>>96446549Stomp Stomp
>>96446506>>96446533Holy fuck this looks way cooler than the current starter set. Thank God I bought blitz last week instead
>>96446533>>96446506I need to know if the rumor about Underworld Denizens being squatted is true or not... I'm literally in the middle of working on them.
>>96446590Why would they do that? They still sell a kit for them.
Are we seeing a golden era of GW's specialist games?
>>96446683No nigga, they raise the price next month.
>>96446533More untested fanfiction bullshit.LRB6 or go fuck yourself.
>>96446506> If a Grail Knight is knocked down, roll a dice and on a '6' they remain standingI hate it
>>96446778Just reverse foul apperance. But more of a gotcha.
>>96446786Less of a gotcha, you don't even lose anything extra for it succeeding, while FA can kill your blitz movement if it goes off.
>>96446778Its foul appearance
>>96446778Then don't buy into it, just stick with what you already have.
>>96446683No.The golden age was the previous edition of MESBG which was the best game GW has ever produced by a landslide.It got absolutely gutted by the new edition.Lets hope BB doesnt get killed in a similar way.
>>96447076>Lets hope BB doesnt get killed in a similar way.This happened already, 5 years ago.Keep up.
>>96447076the best edition of a GW game is always the one that's two or three versions older than the current one.GW must release a couple shittier versions of MESBG as soon as possible to retroactively improve the current one. Or start releasing all new editions in 1995-2001 with a time machine.
>>96446683The specialist games golden era was 2019
>>96446778It's awful isn't it? At this point I'm almost convinced JTY has never actually played Blood Bowl, that it was all just some shared hullucination. My only hope is that the community team are being functional illiterates as usual and that's not entirely how it works. Like, it only works against a Defender Stumbles or something. Which, in fact, leads to a much better way of doing this skill: A skill that's basically Dodge but without the reroll, just the defensive modifier to being blocked. How much better would you feel if that was how that skill worked?We'll have to see just how much of this is actually a 2020 1.5 edition or not. GW lied through their teeth and tried to fucking butcher Horus Heresy a couple of months ago, so god help us if this is more of the same.As it stands I fully expect the formatting of the rulebook to be the same padded out incomprehensibly bad made with chatGPT layout of that game.The only things I'm at least positive about is the removal of Wildly Innaccurate and that the Easy Pickup skill has enough caveats to feel like a reasonble addition.
>>96446964Yeah but you can reroll foul appearances
>>96447314>>96446778>t. faithlets
>>96446655No clue. I just read it here and it has me scared. Hopefully it was just some salty guy wishlisting.
>>96446506Nice, this new box looks dope. Hopefully the local GW will start a new season for the fall and I can break out my dark elf team again.
>>96446506Normally I'd be hopping up and down over this news but for some reason, I feel pic related.I'm sure it'l be great but after playing thousands of games, played almost all the teams over a 12 year span, would take a lot for me to return. That said I have been enjoying TOW except the cost
>>96448000> Dark ElvesJust don't go rushing out to grab 4 blitzers
>>96448042Elaborate?
>>96446965Foul Appearance doesn't prevent turnovers or keep tackle zones where there should not be any. This is way more impactful but being a 6+ also makes it a total crapshoot.It's just a 1 in 6 chance to completely fuck up a play. There's no thought or plan here, it's just going to randomly ruin your day for no reason. Also, why the fuck is standing upright so central to a Grail Knights identity that they needed to invent a whole skill for them?>>96447487One day you will play a GW game long enough to realise that they get worse over time and change is not always good.
>>96448075Nta but i dunno, OG Luthor von Drakenborg was broken as fuck. >blodge>str5>ag4
>>96448063They've specifically said that they are rejigging old teams. There is a very real chance that this includes tying the Blood Bowl teambuilding rules to what GW are going to sell you.In this case it means that it is completely in-character for GW to reduce DE Blitzers to 0-2 because that's what comes in the box.
>>96446506Were these added in later? Is that why the girls are sharing the same bodies as everyone else?Surprised none of the players are painted black, it's very uninclusive of GW. But I sure am glad they've gotten rid of the sexism in Bretonnia, perhaps one day they can get rid of the classism too and everyone can be a knight.Why I should stop complaining about them not being inclusive enough, look at the art work of the peasant girl, she looks so much like a boy that even transgenders can feel included.When do Amazons get male players?Anyway this is a middle ground between adding female players and having no female players - as an owner of an imperial nob team I didn't have much joy painting the incredibly small frames of the girls that I felt obliged to paint because others would judge me as sexist for not using them.
>>96448235I think its great. Buff Chaos Women for me, and i can break female players legs with a smile
Secure the ball details, confirmation that player activation ends, so you can keep the carrier safe after the fact instead of having to form a cage prior.
>>96448395I love how your phrasing implies that you will be switching to these rules.You haven't seen the rules, you haven't played the game, you haven't even seen a demo game between other people playing it.But you're already committed to it.
>>96448439My phrasing implies nothing except that I will at the very least be doing everything in your second sentence, you fucking schizo.
>bretonnian trophy has a little frog and snail on itheh
>>96448235just use a man-at-arm head and problem is fixed
>>96448523I assume there are a limited number of heads, i.e. as many as there are models, like in all GW kits, anon, so you'd need to buy multiple sets to be shop legal, and then also hope your friends aren't spastics who care that your fictional team doesn't include the women.
>>96423144>>96432441I really don't like the new army lists, but I've considered playing with new rules, new profiles, and old army lists. Or even free form army lists at this point, since I'm not playing at any club but with my friends and family. Great pics, anon.MESBG related, any good Sauron proxies that don't necessarily have the look of the movie? I've posted this in /awg/, but might as well try to ask here. I love the concept art of the movie, but don't really like the design of the ragged cape and so many spikes on Sauron. Looking for something like pic related.
>>96448594Do you even play Blood Bowl?The reason BB models often share the same body is because many teams are just the same sprue twice, and you attach a different head to the same body to make a different player>like in all GW kitsTell that to Kill Team players and their piles of unused heads>also hope your friends aren't spastics who care that your fictional team doesn't include the women.Why are you people so obsessed with this completely fictional scenario?
>>96448594>so you'd need to buy multiple sets to be shop legalor just get a man-at-arm head on ebay from the old world kit
>>96448594What the absolute fuck are you on about?If you need extra heads you could just blue stuff them. Or print. And like another anon said, BB boxes typically have plenty of extras. Also in a fantasy world where the entire kit was just monopose models, fucking nobody would care if you'd replace the heads. Could have headless models and nobody would care. They're your toys, do whatever you want, retard.
These guys aesthetic are similar to the new Necromunda Cawdor, and this one can also be used as a pit fighter.
>>96448235I'm not sure the middle one is a female head. But as other anons point out, you can justgo to a bits site and buy some non-female heads if you're that bothered by it.
>>96449142blue stuff?
>>96448763Every autumn I get the urge to buy and paint NH yet I never doWill this year be the year? Probably not!
>>96448235You need medication
>>96446590No the pitch size did not change so those rumors are full of shit. Plus they said high elves will still have rules day one
>>96448763Yes.I have the 2020 kit + several third parties.The female characters in the imperial team do not share bodies.>fictionalDo you have friends?Have you been outside in the past 15 years?You do know that people are a spectrum of judgemental pricks who lean heavily on "inclusivity" to tell you what you should be doing with your own models and are emboldened by GW's political shift, right?Or are you just some freak who sits in his basement and doesn't have to deal with misanthropes?>>96449232All the male heads have chiselled chins or beardsIt's not ambiguous
>>96444262Post this in the wip and 3d printing general I wanna see this real nice anon
>>96448075Foul Appearance can fuck up entire plays as well and it can also mean full on lose the blitz action. You clearly dont play the game as much as youre larping if you cant see that foul appearance is basically the same. If you want further proof out of the several teams I play I play underworld With every player having foul appearance after a few leaguesHypnotic gaze also broken af and will kill the game by your own retarded standards. The main issue you should actually focus on is the newer teams all having some form of gimmick rule thats unique to them whilst the old teams dont.
>>96449436>Do you have friends?Nta, but I do, and they absolutely do not give a fuck what heads I use on my models. Go out and talk to human beings.
>>96449436>You do know that people are a spectrum of judgemental pricks who lean heavily on "inclusivity" to tell you what you should be doing with your own models and are emboldened by GW's political shift, right?Mate you should really get out more. You are coming off as a seething nogames twat with insane fabricated projections.Nobody fucking cares what you do with your toys. Never has, never will.
>>96449483Here >>96448498
>>96449436I use MeshMixer to flatten down boobs and remove obviously female heads from my 10mm Warmaster models because even if nobody else sees them, I don't want to know that my Empire are gender inclusive.
>>96449847Why are they adding women to Warmaster Stls?
>>96449886I don't know, ask Forest DragonHis Brets are nice but this is honestly very off-putting
>>96449886>>96449937Aaaand I'm out.
>>96449847you could also use any of the other billion options for empire. or just don't print those specific models.I'll never understand the weirdly obsessive veneration for FD over every other sculptor, but especially from anons who don't actually like his sculpts.
