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>>96422333https://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information
>>96422345You've missed Feodwra.
>>96422333>made another new thread>still shilling OR>didn't just make an OR generalTruly retarded.
So question who in Keter's party was the traitor. Tam is Thamiel, Boromir was the knight who betrayed his king and died. Was the Pixie actually nilmatrix all along?
>>96422333>Outsiders Page TextCharacter names – Cinzel, 36 – Overlaid golden textureTime period – Kingthings Exeter, 28 – White text with 175 transparencySide profile information and semititles for sections – Kingthings Calligraphica 2, 20 – FF8B00 (and also just normal white text)Inborn Gifts – Kingthings Calligraphica 2, 16 – 59D5FFMain text – Times New Roman, 14 – White textDropshadows were created by just copying the layer, switching coloration to black, making morphology to expand the text to make it seem like an outline, and then blurring or using other effects according to taste. I can’t really recall which exact sequences of effects I used, and it’s not that important if you’re not going to be using these crutches.For anyone who wants to make a card Outsiders page style. Also useful for normal cards. The above info is from tank—I merely copy pasted it.
>>96422414Instead of hating on other people playing cyoas you don't like, why don't you just play cyoas you do like?Why do you spend your life like this?
>>96422423Someone who wasn't on her build.
>>96422425Thanks.
>>96422423Tank explains that her original male member died before the confrontation while defending the Mamet from Charlie. She added Almerich's dad and Nilmatrix to her party. Her pixie companion died saving Cirillen and the pixie mom Pu'un was her sister.
>>96422423It was you, wasn’t it? You’re the one I least suspected.
>>96422414Don't you already have a Tok thread to go to?
>>96422426I can't, Outer reddit is taking over the cyoa thread.
Katya fucked up a lot of things, but wasn't it mentioned that the party "betraying" Dirk was Nilmatrix's doing? It definitely helped stop Vtorusha from waking up soon.
My build >>96422278>>96422285The idea is to become ridiculously strong, buff that power with Icon of Icons, and a warmachina (preferably of power armor type so it's not too cumbersome). Magic is suppressed in the ecumene, and I assume by 0^0. Punching people in the face isn't.>reincarnationAdoption so I can get AP from my mother and useful perks from my father for free.One because he's just a chill guy and he probably knows some cool stuff.>giftsObviously this is a martial build, but it's not like I can't learn magic.The fighting gifts make me the strongest physical fighter in the world by default. I would hope that God Hand + Antecedence would grant me some resistance to divine power. Like how it's hard to add more water to a towel that's already fully saturated. Otherwise just crank the strength on my blessings. Noble inclination + nakama power will grow all my gifts exponentially.>mentors 0^0 with untimeskip is ridiculously busted. This allows you to manipulate causality to maximally increase the effectiveness of everything you do, including training. And with untimeskip you can do it from day 1.Xet. He's cool, he'll teach me how to fight, and his training synergizes with boiling blood.Upunth. The ability he teaches you is insanely strong, and I should be able to mange it with Word of God. I choose to believe that this fighting trance beyond instinct will give me a cool transformation with white hair o algo.>CompanionsI chose Omega because I wanted to kill her for points. But I asked myself: "Would Goku do that?". And the answer was no. So I spent 5 points on saving her even though she's not really relevant to my build.Nilmatrix because I might as well fight her. Maybe I can talk no jutsu her if I don't kill her outright.>encountersUpward Spiral is thematic for an Empyrean, and I might be able to get an airship out of it if I'm lucky. In my machine spirit so I can get my first warmachina.>>96422298that's why she's gotta go
>>96422496Such is what happens when popular cyoas pop up. You'll have to create your own thread or am simply wait our the popularity surge. You can't force the people talking about OR out. The last attempt resulted in a mostly dead thread.
>>96422505And I tried to choose deaths that aren't super painful, or are at least thematic/relevant to the character.
>>96422515Anon, we already tried to reason with him, he won't listen. He made his own thread and filled it with shitposting already. This is not a reasonable person, stop trying and just ignore him.
>>96422515I mean the last thread got almost 1600 replies. That's a good thing imo...
>>96422505>that's why she's gotta goAnd how will you do that?
>>96422498I don't remember where if so.
>>96422505Now that I think about it, getting Brastat Syn Rarruta would probably be a good idea. But I'm too lazy to rework my build.
>>96422522Which last thread? There's been a few running in parallel.
>>96422496The other cyoa thread says no OR allowed so you do have a thread that's OR free. Go on. Enjoy it.
>>96422446But she can only betray you if she is part of your build. If she isn't you can see her and kill her. Otherwise you have to rely on Zenia, or Dobruva to save your ass.>>96422484Wait then how did Keter get betrayed? I thought that you only get betrayed if you take Nil as part of the Outsider system. If you have someone with all glimpse then you can prevent her from ganking you like she did Gewgrin.
>>96422533>>96414214Currently at 1570 replies and counting while someone else made>>96419689Which hit bump limit filled with crying more about OR than actual CYOA.
>>96422487lol this made me chuckle.
>>96422548Then yeah we're in agreement. OR is fun to talk about and it's ignited a whole lot of activity. Always nice to see directly cyoa related activity boom like this.
>>96421360Ford is not stronger than everyone else. I would elaborate more but I'm using my phone.Additionally, I'm needing to fix my laptop so Echoes and Magi Case Redux and other CYOAs are going to be delayed until I get thr part I need.
>>96422542Nilmatrix is an actual real person out in the world you can just meet and deal with normally, anon. Charlotte got her into the Outsider System after Keter in the hopes of testing whether the 11th Outsider is a retard. If you're not dumb enough to take her bait she's happy to ignore you until either you swing at her, or she's got Mamet and Tsoshu pacified enough she feels safe to come to Doria in force and kill you, whichever comes first. Considering Mamet is destined to have Archaia stage a massive rebellion and kick the Ecumene out of the continent's interior, the later won't happen for a long time.
>>96422534>anon cries and shits everywhere in the thread his slop was banned>bumps it to thread limitTok tier tantrum.
>>96422542No, she is a side character that will along with you in the background or as an extra. Your party won't be the only people on your journey. Nilmatrix could be a soldier next to you on the battlefield, the barmaid in the brawler bar, one of the people caught up in the purganation, or someone your team is escorting. 0^0 has written her role to be overlooked by you no matter the preparations you take. You may know you're going to be betrayed and potentially when since it's guranteed to be after the end of your last Encounter, but you will not know who.
>>96422528nta but good question. Can you just kill 0^0 in a straightforward boss fight or do you need to do some convoluted plan to kill her?
>>96422567I can take her.
>>96422567>If you're not dumb enough to take her baitSkill Issue, if you can't beat small Charlie you will never manage against her.
>>96422528The power of friendship. Not only does Icon of Icons multiply the power of my gifts, it also multiplies the power of my trained skills. That goes for every friends I make, as well as the hope of countless people who will support my effort to defeat 0^0.What do you think a 10x power beastial strength gift looks like? Or a 10x power 3x god hand autoantecedence? What about every single gift, x10, plus skills, x10.Word of God is boosted by this too, I believe.And warmachina are not simple tools, they can be infused with blessings or even letters of the god script.>>96422542Now that I think about it you might be able to sniff out the traitor based on the icon of icons power bump. But maybe not.
>>96422522Only because the thread slave anon went missing.
I wonder if I can normalize turning the killing of Ecumene soldiers into ritual sacrifice. Just sic every power hungry faction on the Ecumene by just creating an extremely efficient method.Oh, I can Numerologize it too, maybe "devouring" Entramithraic on a thematic level? Like, you're sacrificing the language itself?>>96422580
>>96422567Wait if the 11th is a retard would Charlie let them live because they wouldn't be a threat? Also if the 11th is not a retard, and decides to enjoy his kingdom on the Doria continent and instantly surrenders when the Ecumene comes and begs for his life would she spare his life?
>>96422333Good/bad news Good news is I have found employment beginning next week so I won't be stressed about expenses anymore Bad news is I won't have as much time for CYOA making. I did finish a lot of Dungeon Delver v2 though and I'll try to power through these next couple of days and the holiday to see if I can finish it by end of Labor Day
>>96422591Ignore the reply, mistake on my part
>>96422571Yes but she only can do that if you pick her if you don't then you can catch her and see her.
>>96422592Men who are stupid deserve death.Men who fight back deserve death.Men who are spineless deserve death.
>>96422576She's got nations worth of divine races that immediately ressurect, some that are giants, a magic system based on mathematics that counters the God-Script and narrative power as a god to rewrite the laws of the world. This is not counting her martial strength. Sure you can beat her but it's going to take more than punching her really hard.
>>96422600>described all OR players
>>96422601She is weak to wordplay so just PUNch her.
>>96422594Good luck anon.
>>96422594Free us from the redditors already
>>96422601Just take Autoantecedence Bleeding Heart. Now you can punch her hard enough.
>>96422592If Charlie wins and conquers everything, she is unlikely to let any other Outsiders live.Both out of paranoia (it's a crazy world and never impossible that one of them has some secret trick they could use against her) and out of resentment (they are creature of Outsider System, which is JNPL).As long as Charlie doesn't win, she will presumably leave you alone if you don't intervene, but in that case Ecumene gradually inches towards victory.Jdan saw a future where (within his lifetime) Ecumene's empyreals had breached his throne room, so it can't be far off.
>>96422605Gonna make her Slovo On Yer Nash
>>96422576I haven't read the full lore so I may be wrong, but I don't think you need anything special. 0^0 killed JNPL and btfo'd SRTR and YMRD somehow, and I don't think she had anything super ultra crazy.You probably need at least a little hax, but that's not too hard to get and I imagine if you're strong enough you could convince YMRD to do something even if she's not your patron god. And in your journeys you would inevitably find some thinkfags that could think of a good plan, even if you aren't that smart or creative yourself.Bottom line she isn't a real, ascended god. She's flesh and blood, and can be killed.
>>96422625Honestly I'm not sure you can beat her, you'd need a ton of outsiders with solid builds.
>>96422627The fun part is figuring out how to beat her exactly with the choices we've been given.
>>96422632Personally I'm trying several different methods to see which pan out.
>>96422627They’re pretending she won as part of their new story.
Current plan is to harvest a ton of souls, do undead armies, and sacrifice a *ton* of her minions to get myself and others to strength. Ecumenites are no longer considered people.
>>96422601Her empire is stretched thin with all the conquering and changes she has tried to make, the Empyrean resurrection is not immediate and she has stopped their mass production because their meaning was lost, her magic system can also be countered back and her narrative powers are heavily limited in direct application. She's very strong and that's intended, but she's in no way invincible or invulnerable. Still, the best bet to win is to just ignore her and revive [JNPL] from under her nose to take away her pillar. That's why Ameno and E Nomine are completely different quests.
>>96422576No. Due to deus ex machina, no amount of direct power can kill her. You have to scheme your way into landing exceptions (yours or her own) like Ota and self erasure that bypasses her deus ex machina defenses. What rules make something an exception are unknown, so you should ask SRTR or YMRD.Now, this is assuming that YMRD isn't helping. If she is, she can directly counter Charlotte's deus ex machina, leaving only normal defenses, so direct power works. If you are good enough, YMRD should meet you of her own initiative one day, so you don't necessarily have to pick her. Pray to her to up the chances.A party of toyboxers and YMRD can probably storm Charlotte and win.
>>96422576Keter and the elves did both simultaneously and still failed. But they came close and permanently injured her.
>>96422601If you have Gewgrin's journal and a smart person/companion/mentor or ally you could find a way to perma kill Empyrians. Then she won't have a ressurecting army.Also you can legalize necromancy in your country then invite Inga Yesod. She almost took over Doria before.
>>96422640Or you can revive some of Vtorusha's old moon portals and talk to YMRD yourself.
>>96422640>Due to deus ex machina, no amount of direct power can kill her.That's ignoring the fact that she killed an even stronger and more complete god to ascend in the first place. Her pillar doesn't make her immune to being stabbed and killed that way. Sure, there should be something more to justify how that could work, but she's just as tied to the rules as you are.
>>96422601Spawncamp their bodies. Kill them until they willingly renounce their evil ways or go into the cycle of reincarnation.
>>96422639I thought Ameno is just you trying to take Charlie's place. I saw a person in the earlier thread make a good plan if you are a king leading a Dorian alliance against her. This was what the guy said it sounds like fundamentum.
>>96422659Not Tank, but it looks like yes, and the Ecumene is agonizingly overstretched right now. She has spent the past century playing a single player map-painting thing game. And she has set herself up to be Persia moments before Alexander the Glory Hog runs a train on her brittle exterior army right into the interior.Her position in Poluden still hasn't wiped out the Uruk and is dropped in priority with trying to drive the Dorians out of Tsoshu, her holdings in Mamet are coastal and like to be overrun by an actual effort from the interior, and her control over Tsoshu is likewise held together by naval dominance and active concentration. She has needed to win battles and hold land to get this far, but because she doesn't have any real opposition it has left her in a weirdly vulnerable position if we take stock of the quality of her holdings.To defeat the Ecumene as an entity there are a few key strategies needed. Unironically copying the anti-Japanese WW2 model provides a starting point.>Contest the Oceans to ensure her power base in the old homeland can't support the colonial ventures. Ideally through a combination of aerial, naval, and land based ventures>Ensure that attention of the Ecumene is divided, forcing them to divert attention to all three of their continents along with the broader naval war, preventing force concentration and allowing an aggressive attacker to win chosen battles>Overwhelm the intelligence gathering activities of the Ecumene while actively leading insurgent efforts, primarily in the outer regions of Tsoshu where anti-military efforts and ethnic grievances can be exacerbated.>Avoid getting caught in 'decisive' battles and focus on the encircling of enemy positions, gutting supply lines, resource depots, ports, and the like while allowing a lack of fuel and hunger to do the real damage.
>>96422645>way to perma kill EmpyriansDestroy their soul. Methods are common >>96391073.>>96422650Right, that's one way of contacting YMRD.>>96422653>That's ignoring the fact that she killed an even stronger and more complete god to ascend in the first place.Yes, I am ignoring that because that gets into "the Elder Gods let her" theory, which doesn't matter as much as people think it does. If the theory is incorrect, we process as normal. If the theory is correct, us losing means the world is reset and we all die, so we process as normal. The theory only really matters to the Elder Gods, not us. We are fucked either way if we lose to Charlotte.
>>96422634I've got several in my build >Working with Siggard, Ingra and Majin Khier Blazhko in figuring out how obtaining Empyrean status works, weaknesses, and coming up with a spell to sever their ressurection connection>Obtaining Drakonic Solipsism for myself>Using Ielziah's teachings to develop Role magic in which after obtaining Solipsism, start assigning narrative roles to others as buff and debuff spells >Learn Numerology which counters >Jdan's advice for figuring out encounters>Getting the nation of Light&Dark and Dragon Realm to form a temp truce and teach their forces how to kill empyreans with the spell we developed >Icon of Icons building up since childhood in the form of side questing all over the world >Learn the spell pun that injured Charlie and work on developing another Those are the key points but there's more sprinkled about.
>>96422668You missed the point, if Charlie killed [JNPL] then she's not any more invincible than her. Hell, she's even weaker because she's not fluent in the God Script and is more like a demigod than true divinity.
>>96422659>>96422664Its a shame most anons in the outer tide didnt bother with Fundamentum. Only two builds took it so far and one of them doesn't even have a royal claim.
>>96422687Fundamentum?
>>96422687Solo builds are probably going to focus on a 'final quest' but you do have a point that in a tide there's some merit to people with the other quests teaming up with those who took the 'kill god' quests.
>>96422681We don't know how she killed JNPL."Her pillar doesn't make her immune to being stabbed and killed" is correct if only in the fact that it is deus ex machina, not her pillar, that makes her immune.No attack can get past deus ex machina because it can create an equal or stronger one instantly and in greater number. ANYTHING possible, so if you can do it, deus ex machina can as well and likely do better. Using deus ex machina to cover herself with magical shields makes her invincible to anything that isn't deus ex machina or an exception.
>>96422687It’s just kind of boring and limiting. Ultimately, unless you take 0^0’s side, you will come into conflict with her and you will die unless you are prepared. And map painting only accelerates that.You can build empires all you like with the other goals. In fact you may need to.
>>96422691Basically kingship and coordinating the countries to fight the Ecumene. The tide is so lacking in leaders that I dont think we have any outsiders with royal claims to the Exarchate or Empire of Light and Dark yet. The quest section made Fundamentum sound lame but its actually pretty important.
>>96422668Don't think there is a way to kill the soul. The whole point of the project is to reincarnate the souls so they become gods. Souls will switch between races so being a majin or undead will happen and souls will eventually whittle down if that is the way they are perma killed.
>>96422715Gotcha, I think I actually do have a royal claim on malkuth, I just didn't use it much. I think I can legalize necromancy if I get Yesod out of the way.
>>96422726No wait, scratch that, they're already using it.
>>96422704Deus ex machina still has to follow the rules of the world and is not unlimited in use and potential. She was almost killed by the elves use of the Godscript and is still injured from that. She cannot just say that she wasn't injured and suddenly be back at full force because the rules of the very world prevent that. She can nudge results her way but once that result is set, she can't change it unless she wishes to be erased. If she could just say, I now rule the world and effectively do it, she would have won a long time ago.
>>96422736If that's the case, there's nothing stopping you from legalizing necromancy even further. Scholarships for necromancers, pro-necro propaganda, corpse retrieval wagons, etc. Everything to get ravenous corpses to dull the Ecumene's meatgrinder.
>>96422687>>96422691>>96422715Hmm my plan is to be born to the Viceroy and his wife, and then true love Kalliope. That gives me a royal claim to two kingdoms. I also want Jdam as an ally/mentor. Other than that I haven't selected anything as I don't know what inborn gifts are good. But companions/mentors that I'd want are Arsak, Killyn, Nezvana, Gwrill, Mao, Kashtanka, Keter, Spako, and Gewgrin for mentors who'd be interesting. Companions would be Evdokia, Cilren, Blazkho, Kallipe, Savmak, Araith, Sonya, Zenya, Omega, YMRD, Su'uq, Gunter, Dobrava, Apatoia, and Inga Yesod. Many of these probably don't need the outsider system to teach me or join me. After all if I'm the prince of the Exarchate Arsak is a loyal general a blue who hates Charlie. He should logically be willing to help train me for "free".
I mean, the elder gods are kinda fucked up if you think about itSouls are basically unborn gods and you’re doing WHAT do them?
>>96422687I would probably have done the Fundamentum style action (I say it like this because my quest would still have been E Nomine) of taking over a country if the toybox wasn't an option.I'd have changes to the rest of my build, but assuming I don't, with my current build, I can pretty easily impersonate the Emperor of Light and Dark, Iwnn Aureole, to instantly take over the biggest country that is against Charlotte.It wouldn't be hard to plausibly reinvent "myself" and cleanse (or replace) the filth in the country with the help of metaknowledge, Katya, and my mentors-turned-companions.t. Wanderer
>>96422770Getting them to ascend?
>>96422687I already did Fundamentum last time. It's really tempting with the new Mentors, but I want to try something different.
>>96422756>Other than that I haven't selected anything as I don't know what inborn gifts are good. You're going to be a ruler so Icon of Icons is tailor made for you. Besides that, go for Noble Inclination and Ethereal Beauty for charisma purposes and the various mind perks like Intelligence for leadership purposes.
>>96422779Well Senamotis your mom if you aren't an exarchate bastard has intelligence as an inborn gift so you can get that, and noble inclination from her. Your dad Marsagat gives you wisdom, and both a royal claim.
>>96422740>She was almost killed by the elves use of the GodscriptThe pun. An unconventional attack. An exception. That's my point. You have to use such methods to kill Charlotte. It is impossible to match deus ex machina in conventional output.
>>96422807Deus ex Machina is limited to what she can directly see. You could stab her in the back with a dagger infused with the Psi letter.That or hit her with something so ridiculously strong that she story cannot save her without breaking it's own rules, like throwing a mountain at her.
>>96422774That’s what JNPL is doing, or what she claims to do. SRTR clearly causes a lot of suffering and does not seem to care about this goal at all. YMRD is the least harmful, but only because she is the most apathetic.The main problem is that they all have no regard for the lives that mortals actually live. They literally call them toys or chess pieces. Progress towards ascension, yes, but they don’t seem to care at all about minimizing harm in the process or even being efficient about it.For example, what if you had ten thousand razor blades shoved down your dick, and your parents died in a house fire that disfugured you, then you lost all your fingers in a blender accident and got turbo magic cancer and were raised into undeath as a slave? Sorry bro you had to suffer because SRTR wanted your brother to have a tragic backstory o algo. If you’re lucky you get 0.0001% soul progress out of your entire life. Better luck next reroll (not that you’ll remember it lol).
God dammit I forgot to reply to the cyoa
>>96422837>That or hit her with something so ridiculously strong that she story cannot save her without breaking it's own rules, like throwing a mountain at her.So going to space and dropping a big ass asteroid, the moon itself or some other big object on the Ecumene would work?
>>96422837>Deus ex Machina is limited to what she can directly seeNo, that's YMRD's limitation due to being an avatar. There is no evidence to Charlotte having the same limitation.
>>964228660^0 isn't a real god so being on par with an Avatar seems about right.
>>96422333The Wandering ProfessorBlessing of JPNLPatron: YMRDOuter tideMaleMother: Maiosara Yesod (16 A)Father: Dryndedh-From–Argatha (17 A)Adoption: Afanisiy Sauromat (19)"Dirk knew, and not just that, he planned it, he knew I was coming somehow and set his niece up specifically to pull me in. I don't know how, don't ask me, the guy creeps me out.Race: Southlander (21 D, 18 A) (+1 Companion slot)Languages:Elven NorthernerLate Thulan Quietened (23 D)Simplified Duergar (21 D)Bonewhisper (19 D)PalantinerPlace of Birth: Hexland (+1 Companion Slot)"I get it's isolated and all but the genedoners could've picked better."Encounters (And slot based language bonus): (36 D, 28 A)A bridge, a Toll, a Troll (21 D, 20 A)A Score of Orcs (22 D, 22 A)A Band of Ogres (24D, 23 A)A Hop, a Lean, a Hobgoblin (25 D, 24 A)A pack of goblins (26 D)"Hexland is a shithole, granted, we traveled a lot so a lot of this was scattered about, but still. Fuck hexside."Gifts:Misalliance: Both Parents (49 A)Intelligence (47)Cognitive speed (45)Attentiveness (43)Caster's Intuition (41)Spiritual Feel (39)Wisdom (37)Noble Inclination (35)Azure Wreath (33)Grey Wanderingx2 (23)Magician's Handx2 (17)Starsightx2 (13)Enochian Brand (11)Vigilant Strand (10)Mentors:Eirina (32 D) Nothing Ever HappensFeodwra (26 D) (Tutored) Just a NightmareExtra Mentor (8, 25)Dirk Yesod (19) (Tutored) (Lyndis, Jdan) a dark and stormy nightExtra mentor (6, 18)Pukluxun (14) Hidden Amidst the CloudsExtra mentor (4,13)Herleva (9) The Red GooExtra Mentor (2, 8)Opoia (6)Extra Mentor (0, 5)Limele (2) Respawning PointCompanions: ZiltchDeath marks:Dirk Yesod B: Iotated Ouk-ZemlyaMaiosara Yesod C: Slovo-Yee (1)Limele C: R’tsy-YeePukluxun C: ShtaDryndedh A: ZeloAfanasiy Sauromat B: Iotated Greater Yus-ZhiveteFeodwra C: TsyEirina C: OukOpoia A: Greater YusMe: Vedi-Zemlya (0)Childhood: Treasure hunting, Magical training, Leadership training, traveling
>>96422854Dropping a moon on Earth would kill literally all life on Earth down to the smallest Bacteria
>Be Dirk Yesod>Meet the 11th Outsider.>Read his build.>True Love: Inga Yesod
>>96422872Quest: Fundamentum
>>96422839I think you're forgetting that they also reward and empower people for overcoming their struggles or living their lives as normal. Jpnl says the common simple quiet life is just worthy of meaning as the adventurous one. Ymrd rewards you for exploring the world, delving into the god-script and taking chances, srtr will put you in horrible situations but boost you for fighting back. They're all good moms that want you to experience everything life has to offer so you can join them. Ymrd would rather have one big apoloclypic event which is likely what pandemonium isJpnl is fine with everyone going at their own pace Strtr wants you to struggle so you can go through more experiences faster
>>96422878>Quest: FundamentumWhats your plan?
>>96422839SRTR's perspective is that incredibly eventful lives (as a hero or villain) give souls lots of XP so they ascend faster. The problem is that only the ones she's paying attention to are developing, while others might even be slowed down by being spent as pawns in the big players' stories. The problem is, as you said, she causes a lot of suffering doing this. That's her contrast to JNPL, who pays attention to everyone equally, even the ordinary, the inconsequential. Her goal is to progress everyone all at once and give meaning to even the least of lives, but in exchange it goes very slowly. It takes forever. But there are only little lows for her little highs, suffering, but not as dramatic. YMRD's main thing is creating the substrate for these stories to build on, the background world and lore, but she has a soft spot for nerds, gamblers, and the desperate, so anyone who tries to learn more (and thus, make their own effort towards ascent) takes big risks, or who is in their last desperate moment, all get her special push to level up their soul more.
>>96422807Anything that has harmed a god or 0^0 before it should work. After all, the main limitation of deus ex is that it cannot contradict itself. Anything made true prior cannot be overwritten.>>96422837I’m pretty sure the sight limitation is just for YMRD as she is in her avatar form, and probably as well for 0^0 since she is still flesh and blood (unconfirmed, but that makes the most sense to me). Also, it’s just the ability to choose your desired outcome. It cannot choose an impossible outcome.Still, 0^0 overcame this somehow…Basically Yhwach solos easily
>>96422704>This is not magic or some other supernatural ability that works with absolute certainty>This definitely lets her magic invincible forcefields into beingYet more for the collection...Charlotte's WOG is final destination bullshit justified as perfect action, not omnipotence.
>>96422839>SRTR clearly causes a lot of suffering and does not seem to care about this goal at allShe does care. It's obviously immoral to our mortal minds but she considers the promise of godhood a good enough price to pay for playing around with us.>don’t seem to care at all about minimizing harm in the process or even being efficient about it.SRTR's going for the Great Man Theory as a shortcut while YMRD wants to play a worldwide Gacha and somehow ascend everyone at the same time with a billion billion odds of it happening. JNPL's the one who likes to take it slow, and only with ordinary lives that aren't too good/bad.>what if you had ten thousand razor blades shoved down your dick, and your parents died in a house fire that disfugured you, then you lost all your fingers in a blender accident and got turbo magic cancer and were raised into undeath as a slave?Eh, you win some, you lose some. That's experiencing different strokes of life, which is the point of the Cycle. In our world, it would mean being a dirt-poor peasant farmer in Ancient China, and then becoming the next Sultan of the Ottoman Empire. Either way, your soul gets enriched by what you experienced.
>>96422897Retard, read deus ex machina again. You're thinking of causality.
Could you just meditate in a cave until you ascend, then smite 0^0?What causes you to reach enlightenment in this universe? Is it really just experiences/living life?
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>>96422914It's not that bad
>>96422912Sorry everything but outer reddit will be ignored until they get bored and go back to their discord.
>>96422923>still seethingBro, your non-OR thread?
makes me wonder what the role of earth is in all this and what the justification is for pulling souls from earth
>>96422928You ruined it by crying and spamming in it.
>>96422909No. Understanding the God-Script and experiencing roles and stories. That's half of it.
>>96422333https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/>Vaguely based on existentialism.>Random people from Earth are selected to have special powers and become messianic figures because of it.>The main villain is the embittered God-Queen of the transhuman Empyreans.>This is a family drama in disguise.
>>96422933lmao I wouldn't be caught that dead in that thing>2 hours agoYou should probably go bump it lol
>>96422941Sure thing tok, whatever you say.
>>96422944Glad to see you're an obedient little boy. Run along now.
I want to make a mad scientist build where you create the ultimate artificial life form, then swap into its body. But I’m too lazy.
>>96422948You're so cute tok. You should post dragonfall.
>>96422949>swap into its bodyHow?
>>96422875That's when you give him the eyebrows and scar him for life.
>>96422715All Outsiders automatically have a royal claim on the Exarchate, since only an Outsider is allowed to be kang.Anons could easily make a ruling council of Outsiders that share power evenly.
>>96422958>SRTR patron>Burn the FutureYou need 0^0 as your patron for Burn the Future
>>96422964Damn, I got to recalculate then.
>>96422961Exarchate rulership with Icon of Icons is underrated. You're literally worshipped by them.
>>96422949>where you create the ultimate artificial life formGranted, Thaumiel will help with that. You just need to be a girl.>>96422949>then swap into its bodyFiert.
I want to post this here from the last thread. I liked this one.
>>96422968I don't think I've seen a single Empire of Light and Dark ruler build with Icon of Icons that doesn't also plan to wave their dick at the Exarchate and absorb them.
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>>96422971Namaaru is best girl btw
>>96422976>>96422977All of the demon generals are pretty mid desu.
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>>96422961That would probably escalate tensions in the Exarchate and cause the civil war to break out though. If you want the Exarchate in one piece without a civil war you'd need to have a royal claim to the Sarmat family and start plotting from a young age.
>>96422972It's the obvious choice.
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>>96422889Wander the world with my adoptive father who's being given hints by Dirk to find the masters of magic. Learn from them and spread their knowledge to hurt the Ecumene. Find the secrets of true dragon solipsism with Starsight and spread it around, start a policy sacrificing Ecumene soldiers in battle. Do the standard undeath thing too with the bodies. Also, evolve numerology into geometry and trigonometry, create Spell-shapes. By the time I am done Ecumene loyalists shall not be considered legally people.
>>96422988Or you can pick the Encounter that says you can potentially prevent civil war and go from there.
>>96422993>By the time I am done Ecumene loyalists shall not be considered legally people.holy fucking based
>>96422964That anon is Bugtranny and he's done shit like this before in both Outer Reincarnation and Worm.
>>96423000super based
I'm gonna make Vlad Tepes The Impaler look merciful. Though I might tone down the sadism to focus on a higher kill count, more sacrifices is more power after all. Also keeping the bodies intact. The souls are fodder for True Dragon Solipsism/Puk style sacrifice, the bodies are minions for my undead army. I'll probably try to figure out Sei's raising the living trick, that's a good empyrean counter.
>>96423003least insane son
>>96422333>Zyneheart (Vedi)>Patron God [20DP, 20AP][SRTR]>Boons [-2DP, 4AP]Halfbreed [-2DP, -2AP]Adoption x2 [-2DP]Untimeskip x5 (Spako, Kashtanka, Eirina, Tenyota, Everman)[-6DP] Dice Fudge [-2AP]Extra Mentor x4 [-4DP, -8AP]Extra Companion x4 [-8DP, -4AP]Outer Tide>Parents [-8DP, 4AP]Phershepa from Erebus (Greater Yus) [+1AP]-Unknown mother who will assume a happier facade and become it.Aat-Going to experiment with the Curse like Yphont and hopefully come up with something to deal with the Uruk.>Adopted ParentsThe Keter (Zelo) [-5DP]One [-1DP, -1AP]>Race [-6DP, 7AP]Majin/Morganic Dark Elf [+2DP, +3AP]>Languages [19DP, 9AP]Everman, Auburn, Greenspeech, Draconian [+2AP, Untimeskip, +2DP]Quitened: The rest [+24DP]Tutored - Eirina: Everman [-1DP]>Location [19DP, 10AP]Old Throne [+1AP]Midoria>Inborn Gifts [19DP, -4AP]Thoroughbreeding [-1AP]Bitter Sickness [+4AP]Wereplague x2 (duration) [+4AP]Misalliance (Phershepa) [+4AP]Hybrid DiseaseCognitive SpeedWisdomIntelligenceAttentiveness [-2AP]Spiritual Feel [-2AP]Caster Intuition [-2AP]All-Glimpse [-5AP]Stigmata [-1AP]Autoantecedence [-5AP]Azure Wreath [-2AP]God Hand x3 [-3AP](Permanent blessing that buffs me for every person who has learned from me)(Autoantecedence allows me to apply it to my students and those that learn from them buff the blessing as well) Basically just a teaching themed Icon of Icons.Dream Passage x2 [-2AP]Seraphic Wings [-1AP]Letters of the Damned (Vedi)DaemonhostWarmachina Mounting
Doing a bit of duality with the build, in one hand I'm fairly helpful and chill with people that aren't Ecumene loyalists, teaching people my knowledge freely. On the other hand I will absolutely exterminate every single Loyalist I can get my hands on and bind their souls and bodies to my cause. Such is the power of Nagash. Internal conflict of benevolence and ruthless hatred. Solipsism is a state like Empyrean and undead, so many I can combine them to create Vampires/Wendigos or something.
>>96423015>Mentors [6DP, -4AP]Eirina of the Orthrung (Zhivete Iotated Ouk) [-3DP]-Numerology is extremely useful to learn and teach to everyone to help deal with mathemagic.Kashtanka of the Orthrung (Iotated Az)[-2DP]-Cute will try and waifu if she gets along with my daughter. Also very useful in developing Inborn Gifts and being able to teach that.Leimeie (Yee Shta) [-3DP]-Most important mentor for me, teaches me to teach better, dies teaching me to teach betterer, and comes back to teach with me.Tenyota (Yee Cherv) [-4DP]-Extremely useful ability, with my students able to also convert their gifts. Stacking my blessing with a taught Icon of Icons would be very good.Spako [-1DP]-Friendly ghost who will get powered up several times. Innately knowing her knowledge is extremely useful and good at handling pupils.Jdan Ordo-Dorian (Lesser Yus)-Location limit bypass is so good, thematically appropriate with the plot lines I plan to set off.>Companions [-1DP, -4AP]Blazhko (Zemlya Yest’) [-1DP]-Dirk Yesod (Yer’)—Feodwra—Upunth-Pukluxun (Sha)-Rhucuphre from Maeve (Tverdo)-Seo (Tsy)-Herleva-Maou (Glagoli)-The future strongest lich to ever exist and perhaps my finest pupil and friend. Hopefully Rhupuchre dies for good.Gunter Lilim (Izhe) [-1DP]-Madman on a mission.-Dobrava (Lyudi)Madwoman on several missions.—Crown into the Gutter (Dirk Yesod)—Shadow of God—Second War of Heaven and Earth-Evdokia (Iotated Lesser Yus)-Potentially one of the strongest characters in the setting.-Nilmatrix-Redeemed through death, hopefully she chills out. Going to keep away from Keter…Apantoxia (Zhivete Iotated Yest’)[-1DP]-Cutest daughter, we’re gonna tear off Paxxia’s wings and see the world.Zenia [-3DP]-Just in case.Polkan (Iotated Greater Yus) [-1DP]-World spanning adventure is always a nice plot.
>>96422989Less obvious is how you'll conquer the other nations. Dis has a couple ways to go about, but the easiest is being a girl and taking Thaumiel, but that also makes Kalliope harder to deal with. Malkuth is a problem still, their main rebel faction, Qliphoth, don't want to be part of the Empire either. There's no obvious in I can see for the Old Throne, and they can just spitefully rewind your future over and over, unless you made Zwa bang one of their princes I guess. Dragon King's is a bit of a mirror of Dis, if you go boy, you can give your virginity to Paxxia and receive Aponoxia, who will be your in to conquering them, but if you're a girl or you don't pick her, there's no easy way to conquer them that I can see.
>Encounters [2DP, 0AP]A Score of Orcs [+1DP, +2AP]The Red Goo (Spako)Breaking and Entering (Jdan Ordo-Dorian) (The Moon)(Breeding Paxxia)Greatest of Yus (Eirina of the Orthrung)A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll [+2DP, +2AP]A Hunter Must Haunt (Kashtanka of the Orthrung)To Dream Bigger and Higher (Leimeie)The Red Goo (Spako)Respawning Point (Tenyota)A Dark and Stormy Night (Blazkho)Hidden Amidst the Clouds (Polkan)In my Machine Spirit (Apantoxia)Remember the Demon (Leimeie)>Death [0DP, 0AP]Zemlya [-1DP]Yee [-1DP]>YouthMagical TrainingTravelingPower TestingJourney of the Self>QuestPatientiaTeacher BuildGoing hard on Vedi while doing a grab bag of plotlines to develop with.Phershepa gives me away and adopts a new persona that she is happier in. One and Keter pick me up and start training me very early on, with three untimeskipped mentors I have plenty to work with at the start. Hopefully One can fix Keter.
>>96423021Do you really need to take over the other nations though? As long as they're willing to work with you to fight 0^0 they shouldn't be a problem.
>>96423023I set up the Gunter Dobrava strategy to get rid of Nilmatrix and also set off the Second War for the Heavens, with Dobrava collecting Dirk’s eyes to activate it. Ideally Dirk somehow survives, Nilmatrix is redeemed and inside Evdokia while the Empyreality is split between his party, and The Second War ends with True Dragons coming back and being made extinct for real after dealing significant blows to 0^0 and Ytorusha becoming an amnesiac. It might also just be too much for Dobrava in which case, oops.My mentors will help me master teaching and being able to convert inborn gifts into techniques. With All Glimpse, I should be good to give away Caster Intuition and Spiritual Feel, along with the main one Stigmata. Stigmata should help [SRTR]’s influence spread from inside her toybox and I can teach it to any potential hero or villain. I will use my Daemonhost to spawn Majin that will be teachers and my students. Their inborn expertise will be useful at the start and afterwards they can go out and teach, helping Majin grow a better reputation while also enhancing my Godhand blessing.Longterm I will become a Highlord and make Midoria my home base to help deal with Ecumene naval advances. In the down time I will make an academy and start raising a new generation of heroes to become the companions and mentors alongside myself to the 12th. Hope the Tide I'm in is decent.
>>96423027The Old Throne is destined to flip to the Ecumene going from Jdan's the future, the Exarchate's civil war involves a faction that thinks they should defect to the Ecumene because 0^0 is an Outsider, and the Dragon King's blurb outright says Paxxia is probably planning on attacking the Empire while they're distracted. So uh, you kinda have to stick your dick in that. Malkuth is less certain, but if Qliphoth wins they're going to pull a Dragon King's and greedily landgrab against the Empire and through that shatter a unified defense against the Ecumene.
The Quilpoth are just free starter sacrifices
>>96423029>Hope the Tide I'm in is decent.You took a lot of characters like shit you took Gunter, Dirk AND Blazhko, you're going to be stuck in a world by yourself.Nice build though. Its nice to read a build with an actual ending for a change.
>>96423040But you can deal with those in peaceful ways? The Civil War is preventable for example. Waging a war against the other nations under the pretense of unification is just a waste of time and manpower when 3 of the 6 Great Powers are already cooperating, flimsy as it is for now. You're only weakening yourself for the Ecumene to gobble up whatever scraps are left.
>>96423053It's pretty naive to think intervening once is going to completely solve the core problem, Yphont.
>>96423077Hey, I didn't say you'd just have a single civil discussion over tea and not follow through with more. That was Yphont's mistake. She did succeed in forming the Eternal Empire but then declined to stabilize it further by being their Empress. Besides, would you rather help maintain and improve a shaky alliance, or deal with a bunch of freshly-conquered peoples who may be a little too bitter to fight in your name?
>>96423098The problem here is that the shaky alliance is the Empire, Dis, and Malkuth. The least problems. I didn't even mention Dis in my post, because whether you're in charge or Thaumiel is, their goal is the Ecumene regardless. When talking about the others, there IS no easy solution. The Old Throne is destined to flip Ecumene and is also gearing up to attack Malkuth for touching their gay chair. Dragon King's is ruled by a selfish bitch who is going to attack the Empire heedless of any worry over Charlotte because hurr dragons stronk. The Exarchate civil war won't be as easy to solve as just heading off one point when it can erupt, especially not when it's full of agents who can serve as spies and terrorists for the Ecumene, as you implied ruling them directly is the only way to drive home a solution. Well, how about that for the Dragon King's or Old Throne?
>>96423109>Old ThroneThere's reason to believe that Jdan, the Old Throne's King, supports the fight against the Ecumene. It's implied that he's only acting on having given up. And ever since he learned the future, Jdan has been cold to his son, a known Ecumene sympathizer, which tells us as where he stands. The Old Throne's aggression towards Dis and Malkuth may actually be a falseflag to militarize themselves for the Ecumene, hence why Dirk is choosing not do anything about it because he already knows. >Dragon King'sPaxxia is actually the one who's pushing for greater cooperation with her allies per her reforms with slavery and the social strata, which is making her unpopular among Drakonids. I recall one of the female options (a Mother or Companion maybe?) is pushing for betraying the Empire, not her. So she's not the one to target here.With that in mind, it's really not that hopeless a situation. There's opposition in each state, yes, but the leaders are pretty much game so long as you rally them. The only real problem here is the Exarchate, and you can probably navigate around that by the weight of your title alone.
>>96423146I still haven't updated my build for this...
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>>96422971Let's go. Molochite1 CrawlersAstahia1 DevilsNamaaru1 Crawlers3 Crawlers1 DevilsCareful1 DevilsBrocodeConquestAll of ValeronArcana, Magic Resistance, Counter MagicRing of Power, Powered Armour, Stimulator TanksOphelia, Zita, and VirikaLucithea! CampaignsGhuranka, Clarity, Windroar, AradhanaShyreen, Subterfuge, Slave Runes, SaifaValeron is strong. Gain their powerful golems, tech, and anti-magics to add to my armies. Using the Stimulator Tanks and Slave Runes and all my resources and tech to improve my Crawlers so they can be much more than a use them and lose them force. My goal? To create the perfect Crawler...
>>96423150>>96423149The power is within you.
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>>96423162It's a bit of a long one, though of course nothing in comparison to the present thread favorite.
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>>96423166I wonder also how much turnover these threads get, of new people cycling in. It's nice to think that a repost of a CYOA may at least reach someone not yet exposed to it, although perhaps not realistic.
>>96423166>>96423171Ah, forgot to attach the file, rather foolish.
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>>96423175Final page (along with the rest of the CYOA, of course) at https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqxjqdo42
>>96422582Anon, I'm sorry to break this to you but 0^0 also has Icon of Icon's and a significantly larger follower base.
>>96423134>Paxxia is actually the one who's pushing for greater cooperation with her allies per her reforms with slavery and the social strata, which is making her unpopular among Drakonids. I recall one of the female options (a Mother or Companion maybe?) is pushing for betraying the Empire, not her.Ah, but don't forget, the new dragon father implies that Paxxia's reforms are just a front/act, and he doesn't think she actually means coexist with the other nations.
>>96423146I do rather like, in the particular sense of desiring it could be real, my build for this, even though I was rather ambivalent about my actual goals or plans within it. Taking it too seriously, perhaps.
>>96422866>>96422871Nta but I think, in my headcanon, that through enthramithraic she's capable of full power word of god within the bounds of the ecumene.>>96422896>Anything that has harmed a god or 0^0 before it should workexplicitely the method already used to injure 0^0 with a pun probably can't be used anymoreAlso Ywhach is an overhyped dumb jobber who would be defeated by Dobrava at randomNta.
>>96422909>What causes you to reach enlightenment in this universe? Is it really just experiences/living life?As I understand it, the world of Outer Reincarnation works much like a massive multiplayer online RPG. Ascending to godhood means exploring enough of the world to figure out the programming language used to develop it, hack the game, and give yourself SysAdmin privileges.While the gods agree that helping people do so is a good thing, they have wildly different ideas on the best way to do so. One believes that living lots of quiet lives, seeing relatively minor events from all possible angles is the right approach. Another believes that showing people the extreme limits of the system, by programming world shattering quests, is the right way. Et cetera, et cetera.
>>96423184Friends are massively better than followers for that power and 0^0 has no friends.
Am i the only one who likes simpler cyoas?
>>96423299I like simpler cyoas too, my problem is that I keep writing too much fluff for the ones I'm making.
>>96423299They're nice, but there is not much to discuss about them most of the time, so everyone just reads them.
>>96422872Misaliance can only be taken once
>>96423015You're 1 Ancestry and 8 Destiny points over the line, you took an extra Yee, you took for the Greatest of Yus event while being a Dark Elf instead of an Elf or Pixie, and I will never have to do this again if we all agree to ban the Stupid Keter Trick.
>>96423308Have an old and primitive image build for this one. Angel is of course non-negotiable, pretty much regardless of the cost...I went all-in on magical affinity, since that seems like a niche they're good at, able to reach an 81x bonus instead of the 27x of others...but I don't know now, I'm not even that big a fan of 'general magery' as a character concept or ability. Temping to drop a level of it for an exceptional appearance instead, which would presumably be all the more impressive on a naturally-beautiful race like angels.>>96423364What's a stupid keter trick?
>>96423389By taking Keter as an adoptive parent, because she requires "any" language to learn from, you learn all languages except god-script. You can then refund them for an absurd amount of destiny points.
>>96423389>What's a stupid keter trick?Dice fudge adopted by Keter you get all the languages and can just print points by quietening them. Too damn cheesy even for me.
>>96423395>>96423397Mm, yes, that doesn't sound reasonable.
>>96423395>you learn all languages except god-scriptNothing bans you from God-Script except for its infinite cost, so you can either inherit it from Keter and become a god yourself or take infinite points.
Does anyone knows the norms about poligamy in the setting?>>96423416You can't quiet god-script
>>96423416>Keter had God-Script and still lostDon't do it, anon. You'll inherit terminal jobber disease.
>>96423015>>96423387While doing other overdue pen pushing, I also realized that I forgot to push the DP debt up by 2 because two of your mentors don't speak the right language.
>>96423395Keter is the only way to guarantee god-script unless you go female build with Thaumiel. And if you don't refund languages, you can't get bonus points for bilingual / polyglot.
>>96422837>Deus ex Machina is limited to what she can directly seeSo ??? taught by Rhucuphre is the ultimate Deus Ex Machine counter?
>>96423426Yeah learning god script just makes you a jobberelder gods all of them jobbers all three of them can't even defeat one CharlieAll characters with any language jobbers all of them tooKeter and Thaumiel both jobbers, betrayed their own allies and still couldn't winOmega jobber you got to bail her out or she just dies
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I'm laughing at that anon that thought people wouldn't be retarded enough to think Keter can teach you god script
>>96423561But she can. It's explicitly stated that you can't refund god script. But you will learn it as written in cyoa rules. It doesn't need to be fluent.
>>96423575Keter can teach you god script the same way mage mentors/parents can, that's still not enough to take the language
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>>96423395>By taking Keter as an adoptive parentHow? Adoption only allows you to pick from the Mother/Father list.
>>96423595dice fudge
>>96422586So that implies the thread slave is making threads way earlier than it is necessary .
>>96423575To learn the God-Script is to be a god anon, not even Charlie actually knows it. Do you really think Keter is a god and can teach you how to become a god? Or is it perhaps that saying Any (except the God-Script) would have been an unnecessary specification for something obvious on the very niche scenario that you take her or Thaumiel as an adoptive parent?
>>96423661To be fluent in god script is to be a god. To know a bit of god script is to be a mage. Taking Keter ensures you will be a mage. That's all.
>Ramble about my choices on my build>Get tired>Ramble more>Repeatwhen will this cycle end
>>96423656~ page 5 is ideal. You can't convince me otherwise.
>>96423672Big numbers make me feel good
>>96423672>Not even page 7You are a scoundrel.A brigand.A devil.
Rolled 9, 55, 100, 94, 89, 15, 74, 91, 11, 42, 91 = 671 (11d100)>>96414214Rolling
>>96423322... I hate that, I hate all of this. Srtr mode, all others in Srtr mode are welcome to outer Tide with it. Not like tank can stop us.
>>96423739Are you ok?
>Numerological Demon Lord (Iotated Greater Yus)>Deity: YMRD>Male>Adoption (One), Adoption (Keter), Untimeskip (Dei, Eirina, Maou, Kashtanka), Dice Fudge (Keter, Dei) Outer Tide, Extra Mentor x5>Mother: Thonodreth-From-Agartha (Zhivete)>Father: Aat>Adopted Mother: Keter (Yat)>Adopted Father: OneBorn with a natural aptitude to all a Demon Lord should know or do, innate mastery of my inborn gifts and profound knowledge of Numerology, I am the son of the Third, growing through the teachings of the First and the Last before him. I'm sure I'll be able to find meaning through this, and otherwise I'll create one of my own. To my natural mother, Zhivete is the only unfit apology I can give, and if we'll ever meet one day it won't be through fate.>Majin Race>Quietened (A Lot Of Languages)>Tutored Everman (Dei, Eirina, Jisilbert, Maou, Kashtanka)>Everman, Fey>Location DisTo be born and nurtured in a city of Majins seems like the natural conclusion, the White Master might not appreciate the presence of my mother in her city, and whether she'll see my existence as boon or risk to her own goals is outside my scope to predict, but in any case keeping me close and monitored is logical, so she won't complain much.>Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Wisdom, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Noble Inclination, Inner Vision x2, Autoantecedence, Spirit Tap x3, Kneeling Twilight x2, Letters Of The Damned, DaemonhostWith mind unbound and untapped talent in all arts, I'll become a Demon lord gifted with the unique ability to change my own Letter to any one I choose, even numbers not being outside my grasp. Whenever I go to sleep I'll enter a trance where I will ponder on my newly given gift to better understand how to replicate it inside a template, and by touching a Majin I can study their letter in a similar way so that I can better understand how to replicate their abilities through my autoantecedence.(1/2)
>>96423728>EmpyrealityI win by default.
>>96423773> Mentors: Dei (Shta, Yee), Eirina (Ouk), Jisilbert (Tsy), Maou (Iotated Lesser Yus), Kashtanka (Glagoli), Leimeie (Greater Yus), Tenyota (Yotated Yest')My teachers are many, and just as many are my pupils. My valued mentor Jisilbert will guide me through the intricacies of Meaning I found obscure even through my inner contemplations, and what I'll learn through Leimeie and Tenyota will be so invaluable that, were the people of this world truly one in purpose, it alone would've meant the defeat of the Ecumene. For my mentors whose teachings were shifted through time, they will be to me not only dear friends but cherished students as well, and I will no doubt have more to learn still through my connection with them.>Companions: Gunter (Iotated Yuk)>Gunter Companions: Baf, Dobrava (Lesser Yus), Nilmatrix>Encounters: A Score Of Orcs, A Band Of Orcs, A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll>Dobrava Encounters: Shadow of God, By Design, Playing TraitorsGunter Lilim is interesting company for somebody like me, a more traditionally heroic, youthful counterpart to who I predict myself becoming. I'll probably be more of a mentor to him than a friend, and if I were to ponder how we will rival each other it will be through the contrast of his temerity and my cautiousness. In any case, his own companions will be no less intriguing individuals, Dobrava Thief of Wings who put an end to Nilmatrix herself and stole Empyreality from her, and a young Majin following her like a shadow with a body Everlasting. I wouldn't mind helping her on her quest to revive the Demon Lord through herself, but if an alternative may be taken I could just as well copy her gift to perform such act in her place, I'm sure she will understand my perspective.(2/2)
>>96423761Frustrated. One of the builds I actually liked is illegal. I'm not sure why I ever bothered using blessing of JPNL, it's clearly the inferior mode.
Drakonids (and True Dragons too) fucking suck. Over a thousand years of constantly losing to the actually important characters. Anyone who takes that race is in for disappointment, they're the true "jobbers" of OR.
>>96423779UnderstandableI know that it can be bothersome to have your writing constrained like thatAlthough I do still think it's part of the fun, and hope you play with us
>>96423793Elves are true jobbers. They don't have a single victory and not a single Outsider sided with them. Except Keter, but we all know how it ended.
>>96423774Cute>>96422345Could you add the total number of companions mentors and parents already picked to the world row?
>>96423779>>96423739>>96423322Not sure why misalliance can only be picked once. If you have misallianced twice there is a lot of things you can't pick so managing to navigate your build around that should be fine.
>>96423828Your Yphont?
>>96423773Seems like a jobberWho does this guy job to?
>>96423831It says one parent and that it can only be taken once, rules as written it's illegal. Which is stupid, I agree, but that's the curse tank has delt us.
>>96423841She was dark elf and lived underground. And Tuzik was not a real outsider.
>>96423828Elves have the best damage record against 0^0 of anyone. Keter did nothing, they're the ones who maimed her. They also did significant mental damage to her in her childhood, which we should count as a win.
>>96423831By picking misalliance twice, you easily find yourself in the scenario where you just look to the parents and childhoods in terms of numbers and just pick the most cost efficient for your build.Sure, you can already do that without the gift, but at least you don't end up in the situation where everyone just picks Maisonara and one of the dark elves as several builds have already shown.
>>96422333>>96422872This is the same guy as Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411446, isn't it?Say that you're updating. It makes it easier for all of us. No one wants to interact with an abandoned build, a non-entity.
>>96423881It's not an update, Professor is a separate build from Father.
>>96422333Anyone got a download link for the whole thing?The imgchest one keeps getting canceled and downloading them one by one will take ages.
>>96423886X to doubt. Same format and equally as illegal.
>>96423899There was a google drive in the original posthttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxR5CDFOxGsDOXVXX0l1QlFQSmM?resourcekey=0-m3Sgz0KfXboCE4P9KMHZ4A
>>96423904Oh it was missing the bonus pages so I thought this was the old version, thanks.
>>96423903Both are my builds, but they are separate build.
>>96423910You need to go into the source files for those
>>96423849Dei might kick my ass the moment she realizes I'd rather absorb the OG Demon Lord's powers rather then have him revived as a remembrance. Honestly I might even be convinced otherwise if I find a way to revive Aat rather than Xian.Generally I have two doubts with this build, one is that I chose Jisilbert for more MEANING rather than Arsak who mentors "how to make people get along 101" and that means I might not be able to deal with the friction of a party containing three Demon Lords, the other is that by choosing Iotated Greater Yus rather than Vedi I should find a way to get rid of my death slot thank to my gifts but then I've got no fate protecting me.
>>96423857yeah, don't know if significant mental damage to her in her childhood should be counted as a win, its probably one of the main reasons the continent got nuked.
>>96423831To avoid powergaming and to make it so parents don't become just point values, Meaning is an important thing in this scenario, including your parents' meaning.
Honestly I think tank fucked up when making 0^0 such a big threat, it drives people to build for power due to fear rather than build for meaning. Everything that isn't preparing for 0^0 feels meaningless.
>>96423964Dunno. I feel meaning on the meandering path i am charting for myself.
>>96423387That trick is the gayest shit ever, i sincerely hope he'll just add a "Cannot be target by Dice Fudge" to Keter eventually.
>>96423975It's not worse than Gunter Dobrava Nilmatrix strat
>>96423980That one is much more amusing though, and doesn't give you a power boost, only dobrava
>>96423980That shit should still not work, it still says it'll be the last encounter, i don't get it how just because she's on your anime rival party you can just ignore that. But the author said himself it works.With that said, Gunter and Dobrava are still absolutely underpriced even without that trick.
>>96423964Just take Rhucuphre and she won't even know you exist. Find a way to rez JNPL at your lesiure, you don't have to kill 0^0 in a fight to beat her.
>>96423989That's true, but it is so op, that if allowed, it's almost mandatory. You are severely gimping yourself, if you don't do it.
>>96423980People are really channelling their inner 0^0 this time around. Meaningless exploit which only serve to dodge fate or get bigger numbers.
Part of the issue is the you're having a character chart out their plot themself. Which is usually a bad idea, they'll always optimize the fun away. Especially for outsiders that from from an optimization world that doesn't care about meaning.
>>96423997>be intentionally weakerAre you preparing to become Erginter 2 by weakening others' builds?
>>96424005If you don't have a Meaning besides optimization, you'll job to everyone else. Meaning is the power source of that setting.
>>96424009The world run on Narrative. This kind of soulless optimization won't get you far.
>>96424005>pretending to exclude meaning from optimizationIs this the (((narrative)))?
>>96424005I didn't do thatI both self inserted and had fun, found meaning, and did things because I wanted to do themYou can win and have fun at the same time, and having real stakes makes taking risks an actually meaningful endeavor
>>96424010Yeah and I hate crafting everything from the start, it makes it meaningless to me. I'd rather it just develop on its own independently of my will. I'm a mere vector for knowledge spreading, let the other outsiders have this so called meaning.
>>96423990It says that it will happen at the last possible moment, just as you had seen all other non-contradicting Encounters. This is a caveat which allows this to work.
>>96424022It willNarratives love arbitrary sources of power
I'll just trust YMRD to turn it into something meaningful, she's a better writer than I am or care to be. I want to live it, not chart it.
>>964239970^0 killed God and rule over half the setting thoughbeit.
>>96423997>>96424005>>96424010>>96424022False premise.Is this how people justify being too stupid to have found popular exploits and too embarrassed to use them?
>>96423918>Honestly I might even be convinced otherwise if I find a way to revive Aat rather than XianHonestly that might spontaneously happen, depending on how her letter works and how you nudge fate.
>>96424053Exploits severely limit breadth of possible viable builds. It's unbalanced. It's not fun.
>>96423964Charlotte is just as strong as the story being told requires. Some think that she's just a jobber they could beat in a fight and some think that she could just wave her hand and murder the whole tide while yawning.Once in the world, the story is dynamic and how you will be able to deal with her will simply depend on the story you are trying to tell. Maybe you sneakily revive [JNPL], maybe you find a weakness in her ascension method, find meaning in the final words of the Godscript, bring back Vtorusha, or maybe do the classic adventure where you find a weapon capable of killing her. As long as it's not boring and makes internal sense, any build could potentially beat her, you don't need to be a super powerhouse to do it.
>>96424052She's not even the Outsider who lived the most yet, and she won't be. We (Outer Tide) will win.The other Outsiders didn't kill the Gods simply because they didn't want it since most are not turbo evil or retards.
>>96423995You are gimping yourself by not getting nilmatrix reward though.
>>96423990I thnk it shouldn't work simply because she doesn't have encounter plot armor by being in Gunter Lilim's team, so she shouldn't be able to abuse it to solve Nilmatrix.
>>96423975Doesn't JNPL allow it too?
>>96423964Charlotte was a lot scarier before the update when we didn't know the extent of her control nor the state of the rest of the world.And yet the builds weren't doing that.
>>96424075I'm under the impression she still does have plot armor under Gunter's team, nothing seems to indicate companions lose their "Special" just because they're under him.
>>96424074Nilmatrix reward goes to Gunter anyway. And the problem is the reward must come with risk. But with Dobrava there is no risk, only huge reward.
>>96424083No, i think it can work with Thaumiel, but you need to be female.
>>96424086There is risk. For her.
>>96423964I don't know why people are afraid of her, just ignore her and you will be fine.
Would Keter's plan have worked if she had just taken SRTR as her patron god?
>>96424105Because we took Buki. Though you can still avoid her for a long time either way.
>>96424108Maybe if she also took Devout Signature
>>96424084We had about 30-50% less points in previous version. Choices were more meaninful.
>>96424105She pretty much tells you so
>>96424109Genuinely why? If you're not going Ameno then you're just gimping yourself unless you're planning on diplomancing Charlie.
>>96424108It says in her description that "the power of friendship is only something as long as [SRTR] is there to enforce it". Meaning that she probably couldn't do it either way.
>>96424108no because she isn't worthy of the power of friendship
>>96424108>Take [SRTR] as her patron>Don't have Nilmatrix as a companion>Don't be a power hungry dick so you have both more allies and the power of friendship narrative actually works instead of having to justify your psychopathic actionsHer story was a mess, had it been more cohesive she could have won.
>>96424118Do villains have a version of that? Keter might be eligible for it, considering how many of her allies she betrayed/screwed over.
>>96424116Because i hate that bitch. And Keter can probably teach you how to get out of her encounter alive, it's the exact thing she did.
>>96424124Ask [SRTR] i guess
>>96424111>>96424084Your tide get swiped lmao
>>96424125You can kill you without Buki you know, if you just want to guarantee a fight, then go blow up something important to the Ecumene and challenge her directly.
>>96424137I meant to type her, but my hands typed you instead. Clearly this means anon is Charlie in disguise, trying to trick people into picking Buki.
>>96424111Yes, but we have The Tide, we have an army of powergaming retards, that's worth a lot more.
>>96424145Erginter's legacy...
>>96424085My point was that, from how I understood it, Dobrava's special was based on her knowing she couldn't die until her encounter happened, and other ensurances given by the system, wich she doesn't have as Gunter's companion.
This wouldn't be a problem if we had more Fundamentumchads
>>96424147>wich she doesn't have as Gunter's companion.and she doesn't because?????
>>96424098No, I was asking, doesn't JNPL too give all languages?
>>96424150We don't need rulers. We're winning before the second decade.
>>96424137I know i can kill her without it, but then i'd have to deal with my other Death Rune. Meeting her then lolnoping away with Keter help seems like a more safe way to "play into your death", like you're supposed to do.Then you meet her again with all the Tidetards after they farmed their bullshit powers and win.
>>96424157No, because she has no Languages described on her box, just like she doesn't give you any Inborn Gifts because her description doesn't say she has any. The system most likely counts what's written there to determine what you inherit.
>>96424151Because Gunter doesn't meet them through encounter, doesn't he? Their meeting can happen in a messier way, and they can die more easily.
>>96424112>Believing her lies
>>96424170A woman would never lie to me.
>>96424164Ok, misremembered then Tankista WoG, updating my build sometime then.
>>96424147>Dobrava's special was based on her knowing she couldn't die until her encounter happenedI do believe she will still have those ensurances even if she's Gunter's companion. Gunter IS fated to meet you ALONG with his chosen companions, they cannot die before that.
>>96424172She can't lie in text written with JNPL blood. She just bounded herself by writing this. Just Rhucuphre here, she can't even attack you.
>>96424112She's too paranoid and evil to let another Outsider exist. The only way I see her not wanting to kill you is if she seriously believes you're just taking Liberta and going back to earth. Otherwise she's going to try and murder you eventually, regardless of what she says.
>>96424179>Gunter IS fated to meet you ALONG with his chosen companionsIs he? Ok, then she's got even more insurance, as she will survive all of your encounters, at the very least.
So is she 100+ years old, or spawned as an adult and lived for like 100 days?
>>96424181"I'll simply leave you to play with your little toys in a corner." its vague enough that she can still toybox you.
>>96424181>You were five seconds late paying your taxes to the Ecumene this year. That's an overt hostile action, motherfucker.
>>96424203Her dad's only 40 yr at your birth
>>96424105>>96424112Because she's at the lead of an expansionistic empire, and she's extremely paranoid, after stabilizing she will keep growing her empire, and when she will include your corner it's difficult she will let you be.
>>96424203She is a child of 0^0 and Iokowe when he was young so she would be around 20 something when you are born
>>96424203She's between 15-20 most likely
>The 3 point Eldar princess 1v1'd a 1000+ year old dracolichUnderpriced, or are all the more expensive companions really that much better than her?
>>96424201By that logic it should be impossible for her to kill Nilmatrix before you meet her as well
>>96424201If he isn't, that kinda removes the Meaning from his special ability, or so i believe.I still think the Nilmatrix thing shouldn't work, because it still must be the last encounter, the moment you encounter Gunter along with his companions, Dobrava would already have done her exploit.
>>96424238Yes, that's perfectly fine and is a better interpretation since it also removes that gay ass exploit.
>>96424246>because it still must be the last encounter, the moment you encounter Gunter along with his companions, Dobrava would already have done her exploit.So, what's the issue? She did. That's it.Just change the text that refers to (you) as the target of the betrayal to Dobrava, the same way you do it for all other Encounters she has.
>>96424246Meet gunter last i guess
>>96424233Evdokia and Ota are, they scale like crazy, especially Evdokia. [YMRD] has a busted power but it's extra expensive. Omega is gonna cost 5 if you're not a dick, but it's almost impossible to kill and learns fast.
>>96424262When that happens, Dobravia will have met you along with him because she's in his party, her hax will stop working.
You should add Zemlya to your build.It's guaranteed extra security if you don't get around your death slot. Should be an easy pick for anyone with their head on straight.
>>96424233>or are all the more expensive companions really that much better than her?I'd say they're more unique one-of-a-kind existences. You're not going to find another Evdokia, Omega, Araith, Esu, Ota, ???, Du'um, Darina, or Inga unless you make them yourself
>>96424261>Nilmatrix and 0^0 THINK dobrava is the 11th outsider because fate led nilmatrix to herMakes it even funnier to be honest.
>>96423773Link your build to the cyoa.
>>96424233>0= Either a cute fairy companion or a trap>1= Person with a somewhat mundane advantage that will make your job easier depending on the build, like giving you soldiers, a small nation or a unique skyship>2= Standard RPG party members with unique non replicable skills>3= Unique characters that can change the direction of the story with their skills>4= Heavy hitters, just having one in your team can make you a threat to nations>5= Extremely powerful characters, even without the outsider system their plots could make for plots with just as much gravitas as the Usurper plotThat's a general idea of the companions and their cost, at least what I get out of it.
>>96424271>UndeathNo thanks.
Isn't part of the plan to put Nilmatrix in Gunter's party too? I remember Tankista mentioning that the exploit only works if they're both in his party instead of yours.
>>96424238Yes, I think that she would kill her when you meet her, solving the encounter.>>96424246Ok, and yes, the Nilmatrix exploit is still kinda lame.
>>96424271Savmak, return to your loli and stop shitposting.
>>96424291Pretty sure you can still take Shadow of God with that too, since it only needs Nilmatrix to be chosen as a companion. It doesn't need you to assign it to her.
>>96424261Cannot happen because Nilmatrix is also on his party. She ALSO must be alive and well to when she meets you, just like the rest of his party. If Nilamtrix is in your party, then you must select Shadow of God yourself.
>>96424300He's correct though. It's going to stop you from effectively ascending, but worldly power is better than becoming one of the witches. Savmak was only fucked because he was genuinely just an anti-Old Throne build.
>>96424291Because if you take Nilmatrix then her encounter is the final one, so Dobrava's own event would have already happened and her causality powers expended.The whole exploit is sort of skirting the rules a bit but it works.
>>96424300Wish i had a loli to return to desu
>>96424330Yeah I was asking because I saw people go for the strat without putting Nilmatrix in Gunter's party.
>>96424305But then, it'd need to be your last encounter still. You'd need to meet Gunter without having meet Dobravia, else the hax are off, and that's a really iffy thing to assume, since his special ability says she's on his party.
>>96424328I simply gave it to a companion.
>>96424317>Cannot happen because Nilmatrix is also on his party.So?>She ALSO must be alive and well to when she meets youWhy would that be the case?It's only said so because she's fated to be your Companion. If she isn't, then the text naturally redirects to Gunter.It goes like this: Dobrava solves all of her Encounters before meeting Gunter. Then, she meets together with him and his other partymembers, which includes Nilmatrix. This is the moment when the Shadow of God happens, and she solves it.And then Gunter and his merry band start meeting you.
>>964239640^0 is both overrated and underrated by a lot of people.But consider that Maou, even though she was depressed and unmotivated, ran rings around Charlotte and constantly humiliated her for a hundred years. Charlotte never even beat her, Maou just got tired of it.
>>96424352>Dobrava solves all of her Encounters before meeting Gunter.>Then, she meets together with him and his other partymembers>This is the moment when the Shadow of God happenIf she did her special encounters before, she won't have her guaranteed hax for Shadow of God.
>>96424352>Dobrava solves all of her encounters>Then, later, she solves another encounter
>>96424233Ciliren was wielding the Law of an 950+'s year old continent-spanning Empire from a certain perspective. She's not as expensive as other picks because the Firstborn Empire is dead, and its Laws practically defunct and without the weight of lives backing it.
>>96424317Nowhere does it say that the first time you meet Gunter he will have already assembled his party though. From a story perspective it even makes sense otherwise, with you two being rivals and gathering companions separatedly.
>>96424352In that scenario, she would have meet you (11th) when facing the Shadow of God, her neverfail ability is off.
>>96424370>>96424376Alright, how about this: she solves all three before meeting Gunter. And then when Gunter shows up, she presents him a box containing sealed Nilmatrix. Therefore, they've all met, and they're all now in the same party.>>96424388There's no reason for her to meet (you) if she's not your Companion.
Is there a companion with a claim on Malkuth that can inherit it after Dirk bites it? Geminara was changed to be Jdan's secret daughter so she has a claim on the old throne, Savmak has a claim on the Exarchate, but so do you, and yours is stronger, Kaliope has a claim on the kingdom of light and dark, Apantoxia has a claim on the Dragon King's Most Divine Realm. Not sure if there's anyone with a claim on Malkuth.
>>96424398Inga Yesod is right there.
>>96424398There is one
>>96424381>I'll just assume i'll never meet the party member of the guy who i'm constantly fated to meet.Yeah, sure thing, and Blazhko will never be taught by his mentors until you've already died too.
>>96423774Congratulations!
>>96424398If you don't want to be his sibling (or give him another sibling with the perk), his filthy southern cousin or pick Inga Yesod, you can technically make Gunter the king of revived Qlipoth and absorb Malkuth.
>>96424396You still gonna need to kill her sealed on the box, which you may need to unseal. And you have to do it without Dobrava guaranteed power too, because she already used it up.
>>96424398>>96424406Inga Yesod just triggers bad reminders of the Dual Nightmare Monarchy days. Best bet if you want to get the crown of Malkuth is just to have Unnr as your Mother, and maybe that Qlipoth encounter.
>>96424438>You still gonna need to kill herThe Encounter doesn't require her death.
>>96424452Yeah, it only requires her final defeat. Honestly considering she's an Empyrean sealing her is a more narratively likely final defeat than killing her.
>>96424445>naming your country NightmareExceedingly based>and wondering why foreign relations don't work outbut lacking in strategic insight
>>96424452Dobrava ability doesn't ignore the encounter order still, you'd need to meet Gunter without meeting her ever (which i believe to be pretty unlikely).But even then, if that happens and you count sealing as her "final defeat" (which by "final" assumes she won't ever be defeated again, something 0^0 may like a lot) Dobrava would get Empireality.
How did Inga Yesod kill a bunch of liches as a literal porcelain doll with zero gifts?She's just that hardcore?
>>96424468>(which by "final" assumes she won't ever be defeated again, something 0^0 may like a lot)She won't be defeated again because she'll be my lover.
Debating the specifics of Dobrava is meaningless because the author has already confirmed that it works.
>>96424476But anon, that means she won't ever lose to your cock...
>>96424468>Dobrava ability doesn't ignore the encounter order still, you'd need to meet Gunter without meeting her ever (which i believe to be pretty unlikely).What's the problem with the Encounter order? She did all of her Encounters in order. Because its description refers to you, it was her last one.And then she and Gunter start meeting you, from your very first Encounter.>But even then, if that happens and you count sealing as her "final defeat" (which by "final" assumes she won't ever be defeated again, something 0^0 may like a lot) Dobrava would get Empireality.Yeah. There's no problem here.
>>96424474Gifts are rare and rng, so combat's mostly skill-based here.
>>96424482>Because its description refers to youI meant to her*
Reminder that if you don't use betrayal most foul on Jdan, he will drive you to your death, because you cucked him with Geminara in another timeline.
>>96424481Nuh uh, that can be interpreted as her winning, so it doesn't count
>>96424482Well, if you think the risk of she being unsealed and never being able to suffer defeat again is an acceptable risk, then sure.Though you could just say Gunter and Co meets up after all encounters but Shadow of God, without Dobrava ever meeting you, then Dobrava kills her and gets Emprieality without that risk.
>>96424474Magic.Also, look closer at the picture and read the description again.It's a skeleton inside a doll.
>>96424496t. gets femdommed every night
>>96424493That was changed, she's his secret daughter now
>>96424502>she has a skeleton inside her RIGHT NOWwhat a slut
>>96424416All I'm saying is that picking Nilmatrix as a companion for Gunter doesn't make it obligatory for her to meet you before being offed, and if it's Dobrava doing Shadow of God all the text that refers to you refers to her instead, so at worst she'll have to do it as her third encounter.
>>96424474Just like you'll beat 0^0 while being a tiny as pixie. Got get 'er champ.
>>96424509More details please?
>>96422114>Tricked the elves into being Cannon fodder for her own ascensionWhere is this said?>>96424502>skeletonI assumed it's something more original, like internal organs or ashes. Because it explains the doll and because it's more original.
>>96424217>>96424219Why is that info classified with divine access level? Does she know we come from a lolicon website?
>>96424526Tankista changed it so instead of cucking him with Geminara she's his secret daughter instead. I imagine he got rid of the ntr element because he's a mentor option now so leaving that risks >>96424493
>>96422333I've seen alot of discussion about how much of a hidden threat Nilmatrix and Rhucuphre are. But nobody mentions Alezandre, dude is legitimately responsible for 70% of the current problems on the Doria. I'm almost tempted to go the Sarmat route and choose him as a companion just to slit his throat myself.
>>96422972No doing it from the other side is easier. Starting a war on the Doria continent is not advisable as you want to save your strength to fight the Ecumene. There are only two Exarchate characters in the CYOA the Viceroy and his wife they are parent options. However on the Empire's side there is a companion who will be the heir to the empire Kalliope. So if you are the Viceroy's son and marry her then you can get both realms without firing a shot.
>>96424542The real reason is that Warmachine mounting didn't exist before. Since she now needs it to use the throne, the fastest way to do it was to consider her Jdan's daughter.
>>96424547Lol, how did I miss him. Will killing him even change anything? His reincarnation will just get right back to work since he's already killing people at 12.
>>96423040Jdan knows that his son will betray him however and he does not like the Ecumene so if you are friendly with him he might be able to plan around that.
>>96424547He's more of a local threat. His real use is picking him and getting a super assassin for anyone wanting to play politics, which no one seems to do.
>>96424542I don't get it. How can she be his daughter with a description like that? So in "lost future" they had some relationship with Jdan but now she's just his hidden daugher and just on the throne. I don't get it.
>>96424571Tankista might have forgotten to change that, or he knows that she's trustworthy, unlike his son and other members of his court.
>>96423198Well there are a few options with Dragon Kings most divine realm. You could just have your alliance have the NATO clause where if someone attacks one nation it will be considered an attack on all. Yes the Dragons might be tempted to take some land while the Empire is distracted, however if all of the rest of Doria ganks them it's not worth it it's too risky. If the Exarchate is actually unified with the empire the calculus changes, also the Dragon queen does know that the Ecumene wants to wipe her out so it's not in her long term interests to backstab us while fighting them. And if it's really needed your daughter can just kill her and take over.
>>96424593Where is it written that she's his daughter?
>>96422715I have a solo build you could include for it. You can see it in the previous thread at>>96416022Won't change anything much to make it multiplayer.
>>96424564Turn him into an undead and then put him in prison
>>96424612Nowhere, it's implied and stated by Tankista. If you really want the ntr plot to continue being true the cyoa won't contradict it, though you'll have to come up with your own explanation for why Genimara can use the Old Throne.
Germinara, that hypothetical slutIn one future, she loves you, in the next, nothingHow does she sleep at night?
>>96424646>she loves you, in the next, nothing>How does she sleep at night?So a normal woman?
What waifuable characters have ethereal beauty? I don't want to waste true love on someone ugly. It seems that provably beautiful are only selected set of mothers and Keter.
>>96424661>I don't want to waste true love on someone uglyYou can already see what they look like.
>>96424661Anon has it
>>96422687I hate doing Kingdom management, Outer Tide is there for me so i can find someone who likes it (and maybe has Royal Claim) so i can swear fealty to them and help with it.
>>96424150How many do you need I gave some ideas on mine being the son of the Exarchates viceroy who marries Kalliope to unite with the Empire, and I have icon of icons to get the outsider worship boost from being king and being known to the exarchate.
>>96424661Only confirmed are Keter and Dice fudge Ratha and Pu'un. So just fuck the mother candidates.
>>964246610^0 has it, so Omega likely has it too. Truly top tier waifu.But 90% of the people there are all beautiful either way.
>>96424661>I don't want to waste true love on someone ugly.What an ugly train of thought.
>>964246941 in every tide? Some of them are going to get rolled because Doria fell around them while they did their own thing.
>>96424661All True Love picks (except if you got it for free) are wasted points.
>>96424117Dumb bitch didn't even take Icon of Icons.
>>96424716Wrong. The most important thing is my happiness.
>>96424722Isn't going to last with 0^0 around unless you enjoy being invaded or die before she gets to you
Would would Dirk's reaction be when he hear me plowing his hot ass milf mother in the room next door?
Best Gifts:1. Daemonhost2. All-Glimpse3. Icon of Icons
>>96424728She won't kill me unless I overtly attack her.
>>96424722You are destinied to embark on an epic journey with a bunch of quirky anime pure maidens (unless you didn't pick any), and you are a powerful and handsome piece of ass, except if you are intentionally gimp yourself.Someone in your party is gonna feel romantic affection for you unless you are purposefully trying to ruin it.
>>96422687At the end of the day, a claim is derived from someone else's murders or greatness.I don't need one passed down to me that I didn't earn.
>>96424738>Believing the bitchiest bitch of all history of bitchdomYou better have taken Wisdom, anon.
>>96424740>Someone in your party is gonna feel romantic affection for you unless you are purposefully trying to ruin it.You underestimate Anon's ability to ruin things.
>>96424738Her ultimate goal is taking over the world. Not attacking her is just delaying the inevitable, she's trying to turn this place into earth 2.0 with no magic.
>>96424733I have the top 2, i will win.And Daemonhost doesn't seem much better than just recruiting more people to your cause with Royal Claim or something similar.
>>96424730Assuming you do that at 14 she'll be 68
>>96424569He's actively destabilising the Exarchate and the Empire anon. I wouldn't call that a "local" threat. Not to mention he's another psychopathic pandaemonium fag, the less of those around the better.
>>96424740>You are going to stand near many women, while having great power>Surely one of them will spontaneously fall in loveAnon?
>>96424758Women are attracted by power. It's just a fact.
>>96424750>she's trying to turn this place into earth 2.0 with no magic.This is so gay I don't understand why some anons aren't already against her on principle.
>>96424753>And Daemonhost doesn't seem much better than just recruiting more people to your cause with Royal Claim or something similar.You're insane.
>>96424746You can probably act like an autistic associal anime protagonist like Guts and still get a hot powerful chick. You'd need to be gay to fail, or an Uruk, or both.
>>96424287Hey not all 0 options are traps. Gewgrin's diary if you are smart or have intelligent companions will give you info on how to fight Empyerians. If you aren't smart, have no game, and no friend it will teach you how to make friends with men and seduce women. Win win.
>>96424740Don't forget that he's the type of guy to say stuff like this >>96424661
>>96424764If you want shitty women, sure.
The build got extremely long, so to not clutter the thread I decided to hog reddit servers: https://www.reddit.com/r/makeyourchoice/comments/1mwbkpv/comment/nbbjvq5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_buttonThe idea is to fully embrace YMRD and go around with Araith and Polkan, searching for cool things and ancient lore, while Dobrava saves the world by herself.And make Araith the new Drafon Queen, yes.If shit truly hits the fan, empty out every single nightmare in the world in the direction of Ecumene, restore the Throne piece with time magic for a few minutes to reanimate Vtorusha and watch from the sidelines.Ready to be Outer Tided and have all my plans go wrong.
>>96424758I never said spontaneously though.Would you find hard to fall in love with a beautiful and powerful girl from another world who was destinied to travel with you in a great journey through fantastic lands while you protect each other?
>>96424753People like Seo, Esu, or Ota don't grow on trees. But with Daemonhost they do, and they're totally loyal to you. Just Daemonhost alone is enough to fight Charlie, as Maou demonstrates.
>>96424769Anons is autistic and associal IRL. Is he flooding with women?
>>96424794Is he an anime protagonist?
>>96424794Anons are not surrounded by quirky anime girls that don't exist, nor are they powerful, beautiful and competent, are they?
>>96424799Aren't you?
>>96424784I will not enter reddit for your build and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting thereWho taught you this?
>>96424765This is the main reason I'm going after her. I'm supposed to have a fun fantasy isekai adventure but she wants to ruin it. Had she just been a normal warlord I may have ignored her but no, her ultimate goal is to turn a magical world ran on the power of storytelling into a dull hellhole void of life and whimsy. If I could I would launch her into a nightmare of being a corporate wage slave for 100 years and see how she enjoys it.
>>96424805Boring anime if I am, unless this is still before the first episode
>>96424793Can Daemonhosts just make unlimited copies of them? or of any Majin? Including themselves? I didn't quite understand how the template thing works,.
>>96424750Anons have negative charisma and are entitled assholes. Their foul personality is enough to turn off even the kindest characters.
>>96424789You said>Unless you try to ruin itWhich implies>Even if you do nothing this will happenNo I wouldn't and I think a woman falling in love with me wouldn't be strangeBut I would need to act
>>96424461Actually if you read the lore Inga is a tactical genius, only second to Sarmat. She actually conquered the Old Throne. The Dual Nighmare monarchy fought a bloody war with the old throne, and they managed to assasinate the muddish king while he was on his chair then Inga raised him as a high level undead under her control. He could still use the chair. She had him time travel back to when he was still alive, he was still under her control. So she had him time travel to before the war even started so he was under the control of Inga at the begining and the Old Throne becomes hers without having to fight at all. Just as she planned.
>>96424819If you make too many copies it'll probably dilue the meaning, but yeah you can make as many as you want
>>96424753Regular humans would never have the loyalty and commitment to pull off the Longest March
>>96424833Does this Meaning thing also apply to common things? The more soldiers that exist in the world, the weaker every soldier gets?I though, as Blazing Seal states, it was more of based on how often you use the thing, not how many exist, so you'd just need to wait for a big cooldown.
>>96424772I was talking explicitly about companions, but it's true that Mentors follow s similar logic. Jdan and Gerwyn have a very specific use but they are worth the mentor slot.
What are the downsides to being undead?
>>96424835The socialmaxxed Royal Claim, Noble Inclination, Ethereal Beauty, Wisdom, Icon of Icons 11th could do it.
The only objectively moral use of the True Love Perk is on characters that are incapable of feeling positive emotions like Du'um and Dobrava. Sociopaths deserve love too.
>>96424843We know it applies to races since Charlie had to stop mass-producing Empyreans because it was diluting their Meaning, so probably, but armies are still a big deal.
>>96424772What if I want to seduce men?
>>96424851You can't create an army of supersoldiers with Thoroughbreeding.Some people will probably want you dead? I don't remember if the setting has the classic "purge the undead" faction or not.
>fly above armies of 0^0's mooks>summon a temporay template with Daemonhost or summoning, or maybe even just use a small animal>turn your summon/animal into a True Drakonid like Araith with Spirit Tap>enjoy the sight of hundreds dying under the fat ass
>>96424809A ton of people bringing citations from reddit.And tankista himself.Didn't want to trim it down to just a synopsis and a shopping list or split into 11 replies.
>>96424793All of those are extremely unique templates that are remembrances of older versions. You cannot just replicate them without first murdering them and understanding how their template works to remake them and their meaning would be lost if mass production was possible.Regular made Majin are things like Aes and even she was custom made. Most would likely have just simple spells and abilities.
>>96424857>Du'umCorrect me if I'm wrong, but can she just insta-kill Empyreans?
>>96424880If their death slot is empty, yes.
>>96424880>>96424885Empyreans do not have death slots.
>>96424879>You cannot just replicate them without first murdering them and understanding how their template worksCan't you just All-Glimpse them and read their stuff?
>>96424755She looks to be in her thirties without magic and can pop out children in her fifties without magic, Tumen women are just built different.That's why I will fuck a new generation of hunters into the depressed Wulfwynn
>>96424889
>>96424889Everything except the gods themselves have death slots retard.
>>96424875Bad anon, no biscuitLurk 2 more years, at minimumAnd ask for help next time. you'll worry me sick
>>96424900
>>96424900Half-Empyrean.>>96424903Show me the death slot on Inga Yesod. Or Nilmatrix.
So Meaning works off of how special something is right? And it works off of the conservation of ninjutsu trope? Like how 1 vampire could be a massive threat to the entire cast of a story and might even kill a few characters off, while later in that same story the cast could fight an entire army of werewolves without taking casualties, with even the weaker characters taking on more than 1 at the same time.
>>96424828The thing that stopped her is Eriganter punching her in the face and killing her. Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the face.
>>96424908>>96424906Explain Omega then.
>>96424857Also Kalliope for a political marriage.
>>96424916Special case.
>>96424906Okay, she's only half-empyrean, my bad.What about her then? 0^0 fuckery?
>>96424900>>9624903No he's right. Empyreans do not have death slots. Exceptions are half breeds like Keter and Tam and Omega who was born an Empyrean instead of being turned into one. As far as we know, she's the only birthed one.
>>96424911>werewolveslol I forgot to change this to vampires to complete the reference I was making
>>96424918Why would you need True Love for that? Just have a royal claim to the empire.
>>96424825You need to act even with True Love though, it just make the feelings develop, like the situation i described would. Nothing guarantees a loving waifu in the CYOA.
>>96424926This. Having Zwa or the sickly king as your parent puts your royal claim higher than Kallo
>>96424911It seems like it works by the rules of "when everyone is special, no one will be".
>>96424926Because she has a royal claim also. So that could cause political disturbance/civil war if she is passed in favor of you. Remember she is popular with the soldiers. True love ensures that you will have a good political marriage where you guys will like each other and it will lesson the chances of a divorce civil war.
>>96424906Such crucial detail should've been included in Empyreality's description instead of putting it into extra content that barely anybody bothers reading.
Main issue with undeath is getting stuck, which grey wandering can help with.
>>96424934No Zwa was banished and possibly disinherited. Also again getting a royal claim on ONE kingdom is nice. But by marrying Kalliope you get the Empire, so you can use other methods to get a second royal claim. Like being born in the Exarchate to the Viceroy.
>>96424939Why would she pass it to you? you do know that two married monarchs can coexist at the same time right? both of you will have equal authority over the empire.
>>96424944No the main issue with undeath is being a stinky washed-up corpse.
>>96424922>0^0 fuckery?That's the same thing I thought, considering if she hadn't YMRD's backing she would have lost her empyreanhood.
>>96424930Nothing except usurping a pillar for yourself and writing it in YMRD blood.
>>96424956That's why you need to steal Herleva's method
>>96424953>Mono archy>2you have missed a spot
>>96424953Hmm? We weren't talking about marriage, we were talking about the guy who said he'd just have Zwa be his mom and get a royal claim without marrying in. I said that's possible but there could be issues with that as then you would be competing for the throne. Unless you marry her. She'd be your niece in this case I think.
>>96424960Why stop there? Kill SRTR and YMRD too, and reincarnate them as your harem girls.
>>96424966Just change the rules lmao.
I will try to ask again, as the discussion is a bit more alive.>Does anyone knows the norms about poligamy in the setting?
>>96424988Go and stay go
I think I know what 'One's Soul Revolving gift is. His death slot had him die a peaceful death. In this world when you die, you're reincarnated again with no memories. This wasn't the case with One, he was brought back as an undead to be your mentor. So I believe Soul Revolving gives the gods free use of reviving you whenever they need you instead of being reincarnated.
>>96424890It seems that you explicitly need their physical letter to make them and you would need to kill them for that. Plus Daemonhost seems limited per person in what it can make.If it was so easy, Dei would have an army of super demons using only the best letters available since she already has All-Glimpse and isn't against just using them as tools.
Do more Southerners live in Exarchate or Empire as of present day?
>>96424950She's on the run, not banished. Her illegitimate sisters want her and her child dead because they are a threat to their reign
>>96424857>Romancing post-nilmatrix dobrava
>>96424992What?>>96424996He had both Yee and Zemlya, he for sure would have reincarnated in a weird way.
>>96424996I don't think so, that doesn't sound like neither something an Inborn Gift would do mor something One would pick even if it did.
>>96424784Your Rentry?
>>96424988The Light and Dark empire has three sisters each born from different mistresses of the previous emperor. I don't know about marriage but that was allowed.
>>96424996Maybe things revolve around One in some sort of way
>>96424988Well it's not clear. I'd say legally it's not recognized. As we can look at Emperor Gewgrim. He had his two true blood children, and then had three bastards from three different mistresses that he later legitimized. They aren't legal wives. Also the Exarchate gives equal authority to the Viceroy and his wife, having 2 absolute rulers is already an issue with danger of divorce civil war so I'd say no. But the outsider who did nothing did have female companions that he hung out with we don't know if the elves of Orthrung legally recognized it.However if you are a powerful man like a king you can have side pieces if you want. It's just that any kids from your legal wife are higher in succession for the throne once you die. And bastards come after them. Not sure how legitimization works. But yeah it seems to run off a medieval european model so you can only have one legal marriage to get politial/royal claims.
>>96425011One loves all of the gods and is a noble soul. I wouldn't put it past him if he told them "use me as needed"
>>96425004Still she is the one on the run and not the three sisters. So again it would cause issues. I'm not saying it's impossible or not a good story. I'm just saying that marrying Kalliope from the outside as prince of another kingdom would be the smarter and easier choice.
>>96425005She's the MVP of the encounters so she deserves some appreciation.
What would happen if the outsider system picked a master storyteller like Homer or Shakespeare
>>96425044He wins
>>96422333>>96422345Another world list update. This is going to be my last update for the next couple of days since I'm going to be busy. Still, if you guys have any more requests or errors reply to this post anyway, either I'll get to them once I'm free or maybe some other anon will.World 1 AzA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394815Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96371953/#96372789Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379443Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394709Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560World 2 BukiFlagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96380920Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372 (Legal now - patron is JNPL now >>96416936)Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248World 3 VediQueen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393938Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302 (ILLEGAL)The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Gojo https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#q96419718World 4 GlagoliThe Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411503Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017(1/2)
>>96425015>>96425021Thank you, I will keep planning to unite the world.
>>96425053World 5 DobroҀ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393951Mender of the Eternal Curse https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#q96407496World 6 Yest'Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910World 7 ZhiveteVai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96399427 (ILLEGAL)UnsortableLiriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96410023One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498The Wandering Professor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#q96422872Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#q96423015ToyboxWanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96401396Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411446Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#q96415916(2/2)
>>96425044Really any decent writer with an understanding of storytelling would do. Ielziaseh's techniques would be even more powerful
>>96425015He's the emperor bro. All monarchs are allowed to have side-chicks. He only had one legitimate wife.
>>96425066Tell that to the guy asking the question, not me. He wanted to know if polygamy was allowed and that was the closest instance I could think of.
>>96425044>Shakespeare: [JNPL] Patron>Homer: [SRTR] Patron>Tolkien: [YRMD] PatronThis line up would mog 0^0 in no time.
>>96425058Father of the Paracausal Arts switched builds to The Wandering Professor.
>>96425078Not a switch, I just have two builds.
>>96425073I'm telling you that an emperor having side hoes is not real evidence of polygamy being normalised.
>>96425076Complete slaughter.
You are not limited to just the Godscrpt with Daemonhost.Esu is from Mathemagic tsifra so it stands to reason to also be able to use them with Mage cult self quotes, High Elven rules, Numerology numbers, and any other magic system.
>>96424988Are you asking about legal marriages or if girls default to being ok with sharing the harem protagonist? The answer seems to be no to both.
>>96425085And I'm telling you I'm just answering a question. Even in my post it says >I don't know about marriage
>>96425094Esu is a freak of nature created as the last wish of the last great demon lord. I seriously doubt you can consider him or other hypothetical magic styles possible to replicate without first changing the race as a whole.
>>96425084You can’t have 2 builds in Outer Tide. Pick one. You can keep the other singleplayer.
If you marry Ciliren, would you count as a rightful ruler or firstborn empire? For the purpose of casting elven magic.
>>96423322Fuck, my own build is invalid, not too hard to solve by switching the father from Dryndedh to Pir but that is 2 less Ap (maybe drop God Hand 2) and a parents pairing I don't find as cool.
>>96425124There are only four living Eldar
>>96425076Tolkien created his own language, was a ww1 veteran, and is a reputable scholar in his own right. He would be op as fuck in the world of OR, him being a language expert and a master translator would enable him to master the God-Script at insane speed. He would advance the field magic by at least a thousand year.
>>96425076How do you fight them off?
>>96425124ah yes, the prince of all 4 elves.
>>96425151>>96425144Does it make my laws and decrees less rightful?
>>96425124Ciliren's still a princess so yes. The problem is her very own profile says her people and country are dead so unless you start a neo firstborn empire of some kind i doubt whatever royal elven magic you had in mind would work.
>>96425151One of which is an Old Throne citizen.
>>96425124That's like saying that you get to ride a mech by marrying Geminara. It works through bloodline.
>>96425150Together at the same time? you can't.
>>96422333Updating and discarding wisdom because I won't need it where I'm going. Don't worry about my encounters, bro; nothing bad is about to happen.The Book of The DamnedMalePatron God: SRTRPerks: Halfbreed, Untimeskipx3(Keter, Seo, Pukluxun), Extra Mentorx3, Outer TideMother: DeiFather: TaexxSpecies: Drakonid/MajinLanguages: Bilingual(Drakonian, Salian)-Quietened: Simplified Duergar, Late Thulean, EvermanLocation: Principality of StygiaInborn Gifts: Caster Intuition, Spiritual Feel, Ethereal Beauty, All-Glimpse, Spirit Tap, Royal Claim, Daemonhost, Letters of the Damned(Yee: Merging of Concepts), Dragon Transformation, Agelessness, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Kneeling Twilightx2, Wereplague, ThoroughbreedingMentors: The Keter, Seo, Dirk Yesod(Eirina of the Orthrung, Jisilbert), Pukluxun>EncountersA Band of OgresA Bridge, A Toll, A TrollDirk: For Auspicious BeginningsJdan ordo-Dorian: For Auspicious Beginnings, Crossed PathsSeo: Playing TraitorsKeter: Just a NightmarePukluxun: Hidden Amongst the Clouds>DeathsMe: VediDei: Myslete, YeeTaexx: Glagoli, ZhivetteSeo: Shta ZemlyaKeter: Yat, YeePukluxun: Lesser YusDirk: Iotated Lesser YusJdan ordo-Dorian: Iotated Greater Yus>YouthMagical Training, Theology, Traveling, Power Testing>QuestPatientaSame plan as last time >>96393892 along with doing something unwise.
>>96425178B-But I used the Keter exploit and the Gunter-Dobruva-Nilmatrix strat, surely I have a chance?
>>96425124I don’t think so. It’s a defunct polity and the elves are part of a new government. Her description says she can do it from virtue of she used to have the authority, but you won’t get it now because it doesn’t exist. It also sounds like the magic got nerfed from what it used to be.
>>96425112Mainly the first, as the character I was building was pretty power-hungry , but the second too would be important enough.
>>96425182Used by too many Outsiders, lost it's Meaning. You just made yourself into a jobber and got no diffed.
>>96425183No, you get to learn the magic through insular Fay or the elven event. The magic still works, as what was once true will always be so, but the heights of the magic can only be reached by Elder royalty of which there is only one. You can have children with her if you want more though. It was my original plan in the first release since rules magic seems more broken than what people seem to think.
>>96425202>overuseNothing a little Blazing Seal can't solve, right? RIght???
>>96425181If you Untimeskip a mentor, they take Companions slots instead. It's Dice Fudge that makes it so the slot is the same because they still go through the process of teaching you.
>>96425181I don't think you get to chose your letter, it's all up to RNG.
>>96425221Nah.>No, Dice Fudge would make them no longer count as Mentors. Only Untimeskip would let them still count as Mentors, they’ll just become Mentors-turned-Companions with it, and this could be achieved even without Untimeskip.
>>96425221I'll be real bro, that kinda changes jackshit unless you're telling me to make them take up both a mentor slot and a companion slot>>96425235I already have an answer to that here >>96393892>If I don't get the exact spell I need to do this, I'm going to roll the Majin gacha while endlessly praying to YMRD until I either succeed or flood the world with a bunch of new Yee Majin.Either YMRD blesses me, or the Yee Majin inherit the earth
Do we know who killed Spako?
>>96425221It's the other way around, Tankista mentioned it in the q&a.
>>96425246It changes things because the cost of Extra Mentor and Extra Companion are slightly different.>>96425240>>96425260>Untimeskip: "The mentor in question will be treated as a Companion">Only Untimeskip would let them still count as MentorsHow the hell does that make any sense?
>>96425263Mentors can become Companions by default if you convince them to stick around after finishing teaching you, and it doesn't change slots.Untimeskip basically just skips to this result.
>>96425263Slots.
>>96425263Nta, but I also always thought that Untimeskip requires mentor slot, because you you select one you your mentors. So first you need to get a mentor with a mentor slot, then you Untimeskip him, but slot is already used. For dice fudge is not vague.
>>96425297Doesn't Dice Fuge only guarantees the mentor will stick around after tutelage without affecting slots?
>>96425181I forgot to include Jdan in the mentor list despite including him everywhere else, laugh at me
>>96425313Dice Fudge changes a role before you can pick a character. Or how do you think it would work with a mother type character?
>>96425318Huh, I can take another troll encounter. I threw away my wisdom for nothing
>>96425323Dice Fudge specifically says "alternatively" for Mentors though, and explicitly says they'll still teach you everything, and that's what makes them, you know, "mentors". Untimeskip literally takes that role away from them, they never taught you anything.
>>96425351This is how I understood it. You would be born with the knowledge they would have taught you but you can take them as a companion instead. It makes me wonder how they would react when they see you mirror their skills.
>>96425351It just feels wierd that for every other role except mentors it requires changed slots while for mentors it requires original slots. Anyway tankista clarified it long ago.
>>96425297I always thought the other use of Dice Fudge sucked because it would take both a Mentor and a Companion slot lmao
>>96425318
>>96423387For changes to make it legal.Dropping Polkan for 1AP and 2DPDropping Untimeskip on Tenyota and Everman for 4DPChanging Eirina to Tsy and making her encounter Hidden Amidst the CloudsChanging Seo to Iotated Greater YusThe Zemlya and Yee were not on me, I'm just Vedi,dropping Zemlya for 1DPLeiemei speaks Auburn so just buy Everman for Kashtanka.That should make it all legal.
>>96423387your yee is erroring
So does Untimeskipped make them use companion slots instead?
>>96425363>How the fuck do you know my secret spell that I've created and worked on for all my life?>*shrugs* I'm an Outsider I don't gotta explain shit.
>>96425409For me, it seems like the most logical thing, since you're stripping the Meaning of a Mentor from them.But the author thinks otherwise if those anons are honest and he didn't just had a stroke.
>>96425412Rhucuphere would leave the party out of paranoia I bet
>>96425053>Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394709The final build is https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406404 (the chronological build list already uses that link)Very minor difference.
>>96425121Two different outer tides.
>>96425409Untimeskipped character should still take mentor slot. Can't find another example. Don't remember where it was. Can't really find tankista's old comments for some reason.
>Untimeskip Kilyn >She's now your companion>Drag around her coffin everywhere
>>96425409No they remain in their Mentor Slot.
>>96425473
>>96425473you could always do that anyways. You do have mitigating grip right?
>>96425486>Using her coffin as a shield and the spike though her chest as a weapon.That's epic.
>>96425472To be honest, it seems like he switched the names here. The inverse would make much more sense. One even explicitly says they are to be treated as companions.
I am actually losing my mind over whether or not Gil is actually dead
>>96425503He's dead?
>>96425503Cyoa authors have died before. It is life.
>>96425486>>96425498Based
>>96422333What are the Outsider Relics mentioned throughout the cyoa? I caught the Savmak Sword, Burelom (drow pirate companion), and Pukluxun's rifle (possibly belonging to Vtorusha?). Is there any others that I missed?
>>96425503He’s not dead he’s just in hiding.
>>96425501I said before that I disagree with you. I find it logical, that untimeskiped mentor is still a mentor for you even if she doen't know about it. And that dice fudge should change the nature of a role so a character requires a different slot. Your reasoning in my mind comes from too literal interpretation of rules without regard for their meaning.
>>96425164Well you can. She just has to be riding you while you are riding the mech. That way you are one.
>>96425543Whats he hiding from
>>96425255Same person who killed the emperor probably
>>96425566Me
>>96425578Fundamentum builds that don't have an answer for Nilmatrix are wasting their early warning
>>96425552>untimeskiped mentor is still a Mentor even though they don't actually teach anything, you are just born knowing itThat one is stripping their Meaning of a mentor no matter how you look at it. Dice Fudge makes them both a mentor and a Companions at different times, it essentially guarantees they will stick around.
>>96425589Yeah I guess that means you have to take her and hope you kill her.
>>96425566Aro
>>96425589The author said that armies are relevant and not just anime jobber fodder, building one to defeat Nilmatrix is not a bad idea.
>>96425634Having an army handy to deal with her summons IS a good call
>>96425598>That one is stripping their Meaning of a mentor no matter how you look at it.I still disagree because for you it's they who teached you. So for you as a player they should still count as mentors. It doesn't matter that it was they in another life, in your dreams, in a hypothetical future. I believe that knowledge given by mentors includes knowledge of mentor personality, habbits, their way of speaking etc. So basically you start the game as their old friend and with this knowledge you can for sure persuade them to follow you. That's my interpretation.
>>96425634She's an assassin bro, she's not letting you bring an army against her. If you manage it then props to you.
>>96425651Eye of Fore moment.
>>96424285You right, I'll link once I update it to avoid clutter.
>>96425634He was wrong
>>96422333>Name: Manusya, the Unwritten>Patron: 0^0>Perk: Outer Tide>Race: Human, Tumen>Parents: Unnotables Ones (Nash/On)>Gifts: Antoantecedance, Touch of Embedded Rust x3, All-Glimpse, Grey Wandering, Ethereal Beauty >Languages: Everman, Spriggan, Beniwhisper, High Elven>Location: Archaia, Kingdoms of Kingdoms>Mentor: Pukluxun (Wild and Wilder, Glagoli), Rhucuphre from Maeve (Just a Nightmare, R'Tsy)>Companions: Du'um (Hidden Amidst the Clouds, Sha), Nilmatrix (Shadow of God), Polkan (On Full Stomach, Yer)>Youth: Journey to the Self, Travelling, Pandemonium, Magical Training>Death: Buki-Zemlya>Quest: AmenoOnce a mortal who recoiled at the endless wheel of reincarnation, he saw only futility in a cosmos where every life is stripped of its own meaning and fed into the engine of a higher enlightenment that never arrives. To him, eternity was not promise but prison.Knowing that time would corrode his resolve as surely as it corrodes all things, Manusya forced his own hand. He wove a trap across his incarnations: a fated betrayal, a scripted death, and a return in the husk of undeath. By designing his own downfall, he ensured that the doubter would be erased, leaving behind only the residue of his chosen divinity—Rust, Entropy, the slow collapse of all Meaning.What remains of Manusya is no longer a man but a principle: the hand that unravels tropes, the silence that denies epilogues, the corrosion that strips stories of their false promise. In his wake, gods and mortals alike are unwritten, ushered into a final sleep untouched by cycle or script.He is not the Elder God of Providence, Fate, Chance, or Causality. He is the absence of them, the Shadow that Waits underneath the Pillar of Silence.
>>96425646That's not really "teaching", it's just extracting their knowledge and copying it over you without any MENTORING process. And startiNg the game as their old friend is even more of a reason for they to be your companion (ie. Companion slot).I personally believe it should use either slot, it's not like you can't just pick the troll/hoogoblin/ogre encounter to get the points necessary to essentially just change a mentor slot for a companion one or vice versa.
>>96425651Just have All-Glimpse or someone else with it. You'll never sleep and basically be immune to stealth or hiding against you.
>>96425679"This world is fiction. I am the only thing that is real within my sight. The rest are all disgusting lies. If this is so, then it doesn't matter what I do to others.No matter how depraved or horrible my actions could be, I consider it all to be meaningless. In light of that, it is my obligation to drag this world through the mud and ruin the tale, whatever it might be.There is only I, and even the narrative of fate is merely an illusion. It is up to me to prove to the storytellers that their works are worthless, to punish them for daring to make something like this.And so, I shall inflict as much dread and suffering as I possibly an. I know they cannot avert their eyes. I shall tear out the heart of what they consider to be their marvel, for what they depict is beautiful cannot possibly be anything but abominable."—True Dragon
>>96425679I wanted to make a build regrouping a few ideas:>anon changing over time and regretting choices>ascension bad arguments>dooming yourself to a fate worse than death>"i'm not like charlie at all" -> proceed to engineer a false ascension>build growing beyond the original anon>ignored epiphanies>escaping Samsara>being erased by a logic error>"true dragons did nothing wrong"
>>96425682I think "mentor" means somebody, who gave you "knowledge". So since you get "knowledge" from them, they are "mentors". Even if they never teached you. Whatever, it doesn't matter. Just sharing my own thoughts.
>>96425634They are relevant because general power level of the setting isn't very high. But if anyone can be called an outlier it's Charlie's right hand.
>>96425679You played yourself.
>>96425706Yeah army destroyers can exist, they're just no common
>>96425460She's fated to not immediately do that; companions can leave but not until after your stories have meaningfully intersected in some way. She stuck around with Erginter long enough to indoctrinate her into Pandemonium, and that ended up working out for her (removing #3), so she could try to pull that trick again. Maybe she wants to corrupt midday point like what Dragon Judge did to midnight, and Charlotte is standing in the way of that. Who knows.
>>96425705They did not gave you the knowledge, you took from them using the system, thats like saying if you eat someone brain and discover something from it, they are your mentor, thats just devaluing the meaning of words.The only thing the system does without Untimeskip is making them want to teach you, not outright copying it from them.
>>96425679>I’ll betray myself before I betray my ideals: the buildNext time the Elder Gods are faced with criticism of the ascension plan they'll point at you. It's all according to their plans.
>>96425703True dragons were worse than wrong. They were weak.
>>96425743That's where our interpretations differ. I prefer to think, that you actually remember their teachings. So this knowledge is not a pure knowledge devoid of memories of any interactions with them. I just like it more this way.
>>96425679It does arrive though. One’s mentor already got promoted to god.
Does Vigilant Strand help an All-Glimpse build at all?
>>96425743Minor point, but the system also guarantees that you learn something from them. Specifically, what it says you'll learn in their description. Maybe they teach it willingly in a traditional mentorship, maybe you have to steal it from them like what Eirina did with 0^0, but one way or another you'll learn. Putting in real effort produces better results than getting lazy and letting fate take the wheel (or worse, actively trying to fail), but you'll get some results no matter what you do.
>>96425679This why Az is the only way to avoid being fucked over by yourself.
>>96425765You are just headcanoning some sort of alternate time-line teaching arc or made up mamories even though it's explicitly written you are born knowing everything they know? Weird way to make things up, but ok.
>>96425772>it's explicitly written you are born knowing everything they know?Not everything, just what they're guaranteed to teach you. You can still get them to teach you the rest.
>>96425768Negligible. You would have to turn off your passive radius detection from All-Glimpse for Vigilant Strand to be useful.
>>96425772nta, but why are you so hung up on stupid schematics? who gives a fuck if they're considered one and not the other? mentor and comanion are not mutually exclusive labels.
>>96425784>You would have to turn off your passive radius detection from All-GlimpseIs that even doable?
All-Glimpse is the most overrated gift.
>>96425772Maybe you are right. But there is still no contradiction with a been born knowing everything they would teach you. Also suppose they died and their death gave you an insight. If you remember their death, it's obvious how this insight stayed with you. But if you get some abstract knowledge, that's harder to explain. Also if they teached you elven magic and how to cook a duck, you should remember how to cook a duck. Also Gewrgin Aureole counts as a mentor, but he never even knew you. So in a sense he was just a source of knowledge and not a person in your story.
>>96425783By that logic everyone who teaches anything ever would be a mentor, again, devaluing words.>>96425789Because of autism of wanting to build correctly, and one thing making much more sense than the other.
>>96425783Nope. It's explicitely stated that you will know everything they "would have taught" you. That may be much more than they are "required" to teach you.
>>96425797Just never needing sleep is already increasing your experienced life by 33%
>>96425783Not everything they're guaranteed to teach you, everything they "would have taught you". Meaning, if you would learned more than just the guaranteed stuff without untimeskip, you get that as well.You can still learn even more from them as a companion, of course. Maybe you wouldn't have taken to Mlada's optional life-exptension teachings without Untimeskip, but because you know that you make a point to learn that from her when you meet her. But untimeskip is more powerful than what you described.
>>96425822>Not taking Dream Passage to train in your sleep.lmao
>>96425794Yes. You need to not pay attention to anything. That is very difficult, basically impossible to do without mind affecting magic.
>>96425803You can't actually use it with him due to costing 0 points.
>>96425392dokuro chan and her sister are so fucking hot. Her sister is the best waifu ever
>>96425836I wasn't talking about using untimeskip with him. I was talking about Meaning of being a Mentor.
>>96425797Perfect mind reading, never sleeping, and reading reality code is overrated? It also, somehow, allows that one companion to resist possession from some super relic.
>>96425797Yes, if you notice the 4 characters that have it are all miserable wretches.
>>96425705TAUGHTThe past tense of teach is taughtLurk 10 years
>>96425838So true...
>>96425834Kneeling Twilight is right there bro.
>>96425856If you were smarter, you would also notice that those characters are not miserable because of having it but because of other circumstances and it is their greatest asset.
>>964258562 characters with Daemonhost are also wretches. Do you think it's overrated too?
All-Glimpse nerfs Stigmata.
>>96425679Is this you and you?
>>96425865Did I stutter?
>>96425850It's getting the answers to a test without having studied the test, but the test is everything, and this happens constantly. You're losing the chance to interpret things in a different way to get a different Meaning, just have the answers carried to you in the most brutish way. There's a reason that the Elder Gods chose the cycles of ascension as their method, and didn't just beam the required experience to everyone.
>>96425862Sorry, I feel stupid now. I'm severely out of practice.
>>96425867Daemonhost is a bad choice because it’s so overpowered that the gods will mess with your life to compensate for it.
>>96425867Maybe, but All-Glimpse has more substantial evidence for why it sucks.>>96425866No, I'm pretty sure Ratibor, Dirk, Savmak would pay anything to be without it. Dei sees herself as a tool, so her feelings don't matter.
Why do anons feel a need to headcanon nerf options they didn't take so they won't feel bad about not taking them?
>>96425887Oh, it’s you again.
>>96425889You're inverting cause and effect.They don't like the option (because of something they saw in it), so they don't take it.Not "I didn't take it, so now I don't like the option".
>>96425887>Savmak would pay anything to be without itSavmak would be possessed by Savmak without it
>>96425700Won't work, if you are fated to be betrayed you will always either forget or decide not to read her and won't see she is going to betray you.
>>96425883One iis dead, one is hiding, one is in Avatar form, and the other is a fake one. After the last one is dead, they can mess with me as much as they want.
>>96425893>le boogeyman schizobrain sleeper agent has activated.ok discussion over
>>96425902She can betray you from afar, not necessarily stabbing your heart stealthily.
>>96425889
>>96425902Anons talking about dealing with her if you go Fundamentum but don't take Shadow of God, since she's already here to assassinate rulers and weaken Doria up for the Ecumene's invasion. Not taking her doesn't guarantee she'll never target you if you make yourself a target.
>>96425887>I'm pretty sure Ratibor, Dirk, Savmak would pay anything to be without it.2/3 would be dead without it. It has only benefited all of them. You must be retarded.
There is no evidence that the gods put a curse of “only roll ones” on Aat. He was just unlucky.
>>96425889Because I must justify not picking True Love and still getting a waifu.
>>96425915The only one who is suffering because of it is Dirk, and that's entirely because of how he got it.
>>96425916In his centuries of living, he somehow never got [JNPL]'s patronage.
>>96425883Maybe after Charlie is dead. Against her just a Demonhost was proven to be not enough.
>>96425053Why is One Woman Band unsortable? I didn't see any standing errors when I was listing her.
The elder gods were absolutely rigging things against Aat for their own entertainment.
>>96425917That's easy, just don't be a drunk on self-importance due to being an Outsider.
>>96425917But you can? Lots of Outsiders did that
>>96425915>spending your life as a spite-driven zombie is good bro! trust me!wisdom and intelligence would suit you much better than All-Glimpse.
>>96425856Ratibor is literally fine. His problems come from being a former slave, not the All-Glimpse, and all he needs to mellow out is a family.Savmak's problem come from being an orphan girl in the lost city. The All-Glimpse literally saves her life; otherwise she'd get possessed by OG Savmak.Dei is insane in the exact same way that other over-templated Majin are insane -- see Aes, Pir, and Baf. It turns out being a purpose-built machine with a soul isn't good for your mental health, unsurprisingly. All-Glimpse doesn't seem to have much to do with her.Dirk is the only one where All-Glimpse is actually causing problems, and that's probably has more to do with how he got the All-Glimpse than the gift itself. And even then, he might be able to turn it to his advantage.
>>96425931Yeah, but the best one didn't pick it (I think) and got rejected.
>>96425938>Aat>Best OutsiderDei, please.
>>96425938Aat was a retard who chose to be born into slavery. He's far from the best outsider.
>>96425935Ratibor is like that because of what happened to him in the DKMDR, not because of All-Glimpse. Hell, just being (You)r father will mellow him out of that.
>>96425923She's the patron of the ordinary, she loves everyone but he absoluteky wasn't one.>>96425942Woulsn't Dei despise him for removing Xian, if she knew the truth?
>>96425924Maou did better against her than anyone else.
>>96425953>DKMDR>DPRKWhat did Tank mean by this?
>>96425942Dei likes the guy who spawned him, not the actual outsider. Or I'm mixing things up, lore is confusing.>>96425945Still succeeded in many things despite extreme unlickiness. He's a real Hero.
>>96425679Without the right caster gifts you are a jobber forever doomed to low levels of spellcasting. A-G by itself doesn't change that.
>>96425957>>96425965Aat was Xian for most of his existence, the progenitor that the Majin love unconditionally and who loved them in turn instead of using them as tools was always Aat.That's why the Charlie section mentions that she will never be as loved and remembered as he is by his creations.
>>96425957>>96425965Dei does know the truth, she has all glimpse. No one likes the original Xian. Aat is the one who spawned them all because of his choices in the outsider system
>>96425938He got rejected by one woman, who was half-undead (read: potentially no sex drive whatsoever). There's nothing indicating that he died a 600 year old virgin.
Any writefagging for these new tides?
>>96425984>>96425993Is the guy avaliable to be your father the original demon lord who did fuck all besides being evil and making the eternal curse (from what i understood), or the outsider?
>>96422333 (OP)Might as well update it now, would've gone for Stigmata but I'm not sure if I want SRTR to see me spending most of my time praying to YMRD if I need the backup plan. She probably wouldn't care but it still feels awkward.The Book of The DamnedMalePatron God: SRTRPerks: Halfbreed, Untimeskipx3(Keter, Seo, Pukluxun), Extra Mentorx3, Outer TideMother: DeiFather: TaexxSpecies: Drakonid/MajinLanguages: Bilingual(Drakonian, Salian)-Quietened: Simplified Duergar, Late Thulean, EvermanLocation: Principality of StygiaInborn Gifts: Caster Intuition, Spiritual Feel, Ethereal Beauty, All-Glimpse, Spirit Tap, Royal Claim, Daemonhost, Letters of the Damned(Yee: Merging of Concepts), Dragon Transformation, Agelessness, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Kneeling Twilightx2, Wereplague, Thoroughbreeding, Devout Signature, Vigilant StrandMentors: The Keter, Seo, Dirk Yesod(Eirina of the Orthrung, Jisilbert), Pukluxun, Jdan ordo-Dorian>EncountersA Band of OgresA Bridge, A Toll, A TrollA Score of OrcsDirk: For Auspicious BeginningsJdan: For Auspicious Beginnings, Crossed PathsSeo: Playing TraitorsKeter: Just a NightmarePukluxun: Hidden Amongst the Clouds>DeathsMe: VediDei: Myslete, YeeTaexx: Glagoli, ZhivetteSeo: Shta ZemlyaKeter: Yat, YeePukluxun: Lesser YusDirk: Iotated Lesser YusJdan ordo-Dorian: Iotated Greater Yus>YouthMagical Training, Theology, Traveling, Power Testing>QuestPatientaStill the same plan here >>96393892 (You) (Cross-thread) with a promise to not go full True DragonForgot pic
>>96425983Not having them doesn't stop you from casting, with enough memorization and practice you can still do it and be just as strong. All-Glimpse is sure to stop you from blowing yourself up.
>>96425983nta but I'm not sure he's using spells at all
>>96426007It's the demon lord. He tried to turn the outsider into the curse and was swapped at the last second.
>>96423851Yphont was half-Drow, who aren't Dark Elves.
>>96426007Evil fuck, not 3rd outsider. Body-swap happened just before Aat became the eternal curse, and it's the eternal curse that's getting your mom preggers.
>>96426007The original body of Aat inhabited by Xian while turned into a living curse. Technically the person would be Xian father but he's apparently more of a system than an actual living person. I would still consider you the son of Aat since that's his body, kinda.
>>96426000He's the retard who unleashed the Uruk. He might very well have been a 600 year old wizard.
>>96426032Why would he do that though, what's his endgame?
In a solo build, if you go Toybox and wait for the next Outsider 100 years down the line, can we assume it's pretty much guaranteed all the world is Ecumene by then?It took just 20 years for Charlie to destroy Orthrung and conquer Tsoshu, and Jdan foresees Old Throne falling in his lifetime (which you have to imagine can't be more than 42+100 years).So it's difficult to imagine in your absence Doria would last 100 years.
>>96426049[YMRD].
>>96426055Imagine his race selection.
>>96426016You can't do shit without buying the relevant Gifts. Prove me wrong.
>>96426063What?>>96426067The 12th will have to be an Uruk chad his unga bunga powers will free the world from wagecuckery.
>>96426051Hoping for another body swap I guess?
>>96424217Why do people assume a guy's dick stops working when he's 40? She could be the child of 0^0 and Iakowe last year as far as we know.
>>96425984>>96425993Makes sense, I always am unsure of all-glimpse's power
>>96426049It was one mistake, probably because of his shitty dice rolls. And it gave anons here more races to select.
>>96426082When he doesn't have a Death Rune for it? Fat chance, dad.
>>96426083Read his profile anon
>>96426071Charlotte it's time to stop posting.
>>96426077Its just Aatfags coping about their favourite outsider's retardation by blaming it on luck, aka, [YMRD].
>>96426071Maybe not you, but I'm just built different.
>>96426055That's only if old gods truly can't do shit.
>>96426104It's the opposite, Charlotte would hypocritically say you need to get good without any gift or mentor.
>>96426083another speedreader, a fine addition to my collection...
>>96426021We actually know what overcharged ToER can do >>96424906It's impressive, but nowhere near as impressive as he wants it to be.
>>96426093I mean, I'd be throwing shit at the wall at this point trying to find a way.
>>96426051My theory is that he's too far gone to do this himself, and the nightmare mixed with the curse is the actual intelligence behind it. The nightmare wouldn't exist withoout Outsiders and it keeps on getting stronger as a result of Outsider actions. Almost anythign you can imagine doing besides Humilitas could be twisted to the Nightmare's advantage, too.
>>96426082So that's a possible trap for all those that pick Aat as a father, neat.
>>96426113Then can anon, for the low price of 10 points. You DID take at least one of them, right?
>>96426055>to destroy Orthrung and conquer TsoshuBut that's a one-off thing, and the expansion of her empire is making it more unstable.
>>9642611839 is still young, right?
>>96426118How big is it by now?
>>96426133In elf and dwarf years, yes.
>>96426055>In a solo build, if you go Toybox and wait for the next Outsider 100 years down the line, can we assume it's pretty much guaranteed all the world is Ecumene by then?No. Charlotte is explicitly slowing down to defend against the 11th. It would take years to decades to fully confirm that the toyboxer 11th is not infiltrating the Ecumene.>Jdan foresees Old Throne falling in his lifetime (which you have to imagine can't be more than 42+100 years)Jdan is a time traveling king. Via magic, his lifespan can easily be effectively unlimited if he isn't immortal outright. Him seeing a bad future is no indication of time.
>>96425938The best ones are Sarmat and Tuvik. They’re the only ones who accomplished all of their goals.
>>96426144EXTRA THICCCC
>>96426154One managed to help ascend one of his companions; he's the best.
>>96426154>No mention of One.unbased
>>96424536Likely just a joke as YMRD is the one helping omega and kind of her new mother.
>>96426093Yeah but better be careful what death rune you pick, some could totally lead to a possession plot. You could even try this on purpose with Iotated Greater Yus, but stacking the deck in your favor so that you're prepared for it.
>>96426158Mithra would have ascended without him anyway.
>>96426158>>96426160Vtorusha got One while the 12th is stuck with (You)
>>96426133in human years? When they are talking about a guy that is 40 and speak about his younger days, you expect a teenager or when he was in his early 20s.
>>96426158>>96426160One failed at managing the second outsider’s autism.
>>96426119I'd chalk it up to different specializations, like the Majin templates.Then again I'm very lenient about that sort of things, because builds like that give me antagonists. Rules are secondary to my entertainment.
>>96422594Ganbatte!(Although I would worry about releasing it so soon after OR)
>>96426154Vtoursha also did good things. Like literally humanity only went up after her. Savmak also did great things he just messed up at the end.
>>96426155WHat type of thick? paxxia thicc? apantaxia thicc? Ratha thicc?
>>96426169Who would've been the best/worst Outsider to come after?
>>96426179She is like 95% responsible for the nightmare and lots of other shit too
>>96426154>person A wants olympic gold medal, gets silver instead>person B wants tasty food. He eats lots of tasty food, flawless victoryWho did better? "I'm so unambitious that I win no matter what ;)" is absolutely pathetic cope.
>>96426183best: OneWorst: eirgenter without being her son, and hope she doesn't find you are an outsider otherwise you are dead
>>96426183Best: OneWorst: Charlotte
>>96426176>Rules are secondary to my entertainment.Dishonest logic. That's why we need to bring back build ratings. People will think twice before making illegals builds.
>>96426183Erginter if she didn't die. Though her plan kinda sucked because she could be picked up by the system and get a bad deathrune which they'll obviously do if she's described as actively hostile.
>>96426133>I remember when I was a young man and I met the woman in white>Dad, that was last yearYou know, now that I think about it no one proposed getting Omega to meet her father. Could be a very productive plotline. Oh, and good for her or something.
>>96426199I don't think she really cares. Nobody mentioned him
>>96426169Don't forget Keter. She's fucking hard to kill, she survived her Buki encounter without fate protections. It is very likely for her to survive unless you specifically try to fuck over her, and not impossible even then,
>>96426209Yeah you're right, if you fail to kill Charlie in 100 yrs then the 12th will get 3 Outsiders to choose from. Think you're free to take if you take Vedi, or are you just stealing 5 points away from the 12th?
>>96426181Laika/Caeda Triple C Thiccc
>>96426173lies and slander, it only thanks to his sacrifice that she got defeated
>>96426207I'm pretty sure her plotline will be elevated if you were to be her half brother. You can even be a dick and True Love her only to have her find out about your parentage later. Free drama.
>>96426215So no Ratha level but still holy moly lvl.
>>964261830^0 hands down, erginter is dangerous but nowhere near the level of power Charlotte currently has.
>>96426227Boring. I'm not wasting one of my plotlines for this.
>>96426146>Via magic, his lifespan can easily be effectively unlimited if he isn't immortal outright. Him seeing a bad future is no indication of time.What? Do we have anything to suggest that? It even says "the now old king" for him as in his future.
>>96426234All roads lead to incest
>>96426213So if you were the 12th and the 11th was the King of the Ecumene married into the Empire of Light and Dark and created a Dorian League to fight against the Ecumene would you want him as a specefic companion? Like you don't need to use the outsider system to have companions you can bring other people who are your friends.
>>96426243Meant for >>96426227
>>96426240How many times has he done a full reset? If he is willing we might be able to convince him to go full Subaru and he just sits there while we try different things. If something fails we rewind, if it succeds he tells us and we do it.
>>96426245>the 11th was the King of the Ecumene married into the Empire of Light and Dark and created a Dorian League to fight against the Ecumene>King of the Ecumene>created a Dorian League to fight against the EcumeneDamn, he's playing 11D chess
>>96426213My theory on the price is that it's some sort of combination of at least two factors: how hard (you are super easy with your Vedi) for the System to make a mentor work with (You) and how "powerful" their teachings can make (You). It is very likely for you to be discounted, even if your teachings aren't inferior to other 5-cost mentors in the slightest.
>>96426169Vrorusha got one but his buddies finished the job though
>>96426227Pointless sadism towards god's favorite princess will certainly work out for you keep going you got this
>>96426254What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about whether Jdan could be alive at the time when 12th Outsider arrives. And there's nothing to suggest he could live to be 142 years old.
I wanna Hug :) omega
>>96426257he's schizomaxxing
>>96426257Shit I meant exarchate lol. They both have E's
>>96426224He only needed to sacrifice himself because he wasn’t a better mentor. The whole war could have been avoided
>>96426268How is her falling in love with her secret half brother sadism?She's a tsundere, she has to face some ridiculous set back that forces her to accept her feelings.
>>96426272Me too but I don't want her to use her arms if you know what I mean
>>96426240>Do we have anything to suggest that?His timelooping, obviously. There's no way he hasn't at least found a way to extend his lifespan or someone who can. At worst, he can become undead, which is piss easy for someone of his level.
>>96426291fluffy angel wing hugs :DD
>>96426272wholesome and based>>96426291horny and cringe
>>96426291Hell yeah wing hug
>>96426257>>96426275>the 11th actually managed to pull of his idiotic scheme of making 0^0 his companion and taming her with his charm and cock>became ruler of the whole world>the effort drove him completely mad, he now spends his time pitting sections of his realm against each other
>>96426298I am surprised you knew what I meant.>>96426299Shame on your dirty mind.
>>96426297He can only go back as far as he's sat on the chair in one sitting. Meaning he's stuck sitting there. Pretty hard to do shit while stuck on a chair.
>0^0 is scared shitless at the prospect of Vtorusha coming back>One fought evenly with her mech, although he lost>His big gift was Icon of Icons, which 0^0 also has with a massive empireJust how many friends did he make? Must have been one hell of a guy.
>>96426308How did Geminara use the chair. 1. Without Jdan knowing2. Without being there for years since she met us as in theory we met her while Jdan is still there
So if you pick Vedi, 0^0 can't kill you until then yeah?
>>96426312Quality is also important for icon of icons.
>>96426245None of the current rulers are companions -- they're all parents or mentors. Presumably because their duties keep them from being the sorts of characters that make good companions. I'd expect the 11th to be the same, so I kind of reject the premise of the question.As for whether that 11th would make a good parent/mentor -- yeah, probably. Parent version gives two royal claims and probably a stupid number of gifts. Mentor version gives you whatever they know that the system thinks is important for you to learn, and they'll know a lot at this pointn.
>>96426315Adding to that, does the throne have an incorporated toiled? because not getting up to even go to the toilet...
>>96426312Even one 1000 later we're still riding his dick, imagine his prime.
>>96426240Mlada the life extension mentor is his subordinate.
>>96426319Yeah. But you'd be surprised what you can live through
>>96426312He was mentored by THE Ikona Ikon. I think he knew exactly how to use it and how to fuel it to its fullest extent.
>>96426325It gets send to the nightmare don't worry about it
>>96426315She was supposed to be using the chairThat's why he had her in there
>>96426319Surviving isn’t a high bar. She could cut off your arms and legs and put you in a little box and you would be “surviving”
>>96426325Yes, the poop goes straight to Vtorusha's cockpit.
>>96426305The 11th speaks to you before you choose him. "Listen you need to help me don't trust that asshole the 11th the bastard backstabbed me literally. If you pick me we can work together to take him down. You can trust me"Should this companion be free, cost 5 points, or give you 5 points.
>>96426338>nightmare is the dream manifestation of poopkino
>>96426335but don't you need to be sitting on the throne?
>>96426308He's a King annon he can send people to do shit.
Does race affect maturity age?How long can you keep One alive?
>>96426330That's why One is the best parent/mentor. You are indirectly receiving the teachings of the only person to ever ascend to Elder God status. That's an invaluable knowledge.
>>96426347Yes
>>96426354Trying to go Dwarf to make "One" last for fifty years?
>>96426354>How long can you keep One alive?until you are an adult.
>>96426358>the only person to ever ascend to Elder God statusthat we know of
>>96426312Her entry on the outsider list explicitly says that few will mourn her when she dies. Her mentors/companions are all already dead, and her empire does not love her. I doubt her IoI buff is anywhere near what One's was during the War of Heaven and Earth. He was a good friend to many while also being the last hope of the faithful against the woman who hoped to slay the gods.
One's Revolving soul is definitively Spiral power. Trust me bro [SRTR] told me in a dream.
>>96426354You have to let him go. You've already grown so much, it's up to you now.
>>96426323What are you talking about rullers that are companions are Kalliope, Cilliren, and possibly Apatonia.
>>96426344they don't call them "muddish" for nothing.
>>96426364Then two people can sit? and how did she meet you while sitting long enough to be able to go back in time for so many years?
>>96426319One of possible Mentors is a Book.One of possible Fathers is a Curse.Your Letter can also be removed by various means.
>>96426164Hiding her age that doesn't help her. But [YMRD] helping her is made more obvious with the rune selection, yes.
>>96426377He stopped sitting in this timeline after sitting for as long as he could so someone else can sit now
>>96426374None of those are current rulers. Kalliope and Apatoxia are heirs, and Cillren rules nothing and no one anymore.
>>96426165Imagining not picking Buki and bringing the one who already escaped it along with you, couldn't be me.
>>96426370>One's Revolving soul is definitively Spiral power. Trust me bro [SRTR] told me in a dream.while I don't think its that ridiculously, I know that it must've been the one of the most op gifts ever. There's a reason it never got offered again after One, the Elder Gods realised how broken it is and removed it in the next patch of the outsider system.
>>96426385For Kalliope it says that right after Iwnn dies I doubt he will live more than 10 more years his sisters will also die soon after maybe 3 years. I would not be surprised at her being ruler by 14 or so. As for Apatoxia once she kills her mom she is instantly ruler. And cilliren still has 4 Eldar elves.
>>96426374A yes, the queen of all Eldar, the weird numbers sage, the human larper and [SRTR] broken toy sure respect her authority.
>>96426388>Wanting to have Keter aroundBro you can do better for yourself
I need help deciding for one of a pure mage builds' mentor. Who would you choose between Lyndis and Maou.I know they teach different things, but what are some positives/negatives you see from them? Who would you say is the most general in their teaching. I lean toward Lyndis but I just want a second opinion.
>>96426418Believe in the redemption arc bro
>>96426418nta but I can fix her
>>96426401>Heir presumptive of the Empire of Light and Dark (not yet, but eventually)> Princess of a dead people from a dead country on a dead continent. Ciliren's status meant little back in the day, and it means even less now>Age (at your birth): -14Do I need to break out the dictionary and tell you what "current" means?
>>96426418We stan Keter here.
>>96426370>>96426396Or it could have been nothing special and it’s just happenstance that no one’s picked it or that it’s not around for us.We have a gift called GOD HAND and it’s one of the filler one pointers, gifts are all over the place and names are no indicators of what’s crazy
>>96426422What other mentors do you have?
>>96426365>>96426367>>96426371I want to see how many outsiders you can gather in one place. I feel like having One and Keter is a good combo regardless.>>96426370It's kind of suspicious that he can be revived as an undead 850 years after his death.Don't souls normally go back into the cycle of reincarnation pretty quickly?
>>96426422Lyndis is definitely the better one, Maou is more like a guerilla war teacher than a traditional leader.
>>96426404Wait who is the human larper?
I just hate builds that are better than mine.
>>96426445Vesryn, the dad candidate who was born on the Doria and raised by human friends of his dead bio-dad.
>>96426436God Hand could be goated if you Autoantecedence
>>96426404>[SRTR] broken toyWould Ratha have sex with her son? She knows he's an Outsider...
>>96426441>>96426443I have Taexx, more for help in curing bitter sickness than magic. I'm using my other two mentor slots[Dis, Tumen] on Uruk encounters.
>>96426422Get Maou and ignite her desire to fight the Ecumene
>>96426442It's because of vtorusha and the fate she gave him
>>96422333>>96425053This might be the last map for a while. TL;DR>Starting locations for every possible outertider(so far)>Some locations were regions, so a random city/town/village that spoke their language was picked.>Unless specified it's not 100% accurate but each starting point should fit the builds goals and themes
>>96426428Apatoxia does not need to be dragon king yet. You only need her to do it when you are in politics and dealing with the DKMDR when you are 10 she is not needed to do anything.
>>96426460If you true love her then maybe, her description already said she won't love you like a mother
>>96426462>Pure mage>Not taking FeodwraLunacy
>>96426448Name them and please let it be me
>>96424869It has a group dedicated to hunting down evil liches and such, but this group is also run by the nation with legal necromancy and is usually staffed BY necromancers and undead. So no, there's nobody on Doria at least dedicated to hunting down all undead, just the undead-using nation running undead-police to stop undead-criminals.
>>96426462Then neither of them, go for Zlata instead
>>96426460YesEven if you don't true love her she will attempt to "Teach" (Groom) youSo you can be a hero like her
>>96426467Shame we're all social distancing, I want to see Dei's kids interact with each other. Also, 6 Outsiders all in Dis sounds fun
>>96426474Time magic is gay as fuck>>96426479Alright, thanks for the input.
How strong is Oko Shtorma?Also, in terms of the second war of heaven and earth, could you bullshit the missing instructions by using Word of God?
>>96426442It's not stated how long is normal between reincarnations, but there's definitely a gap (see the Remember the Demon event). It probably depends on what plot JNPL wants to slot you into next.One in particular was fated to reincarnate as an undead by Vtorusha (yee+zemlya). That requires weird circumstances -- undead are usually raised, not born -- so it's probably taking longer than normal. I wouldn't be surprised if other outsiders have also been offered One; the system is a pretty convenient way for JNPL to resolve those letters.
>>96426491Interactions is mcyoag behavior. We need to all join the same world to "not miss out" and THEN act like we're in singlerplayer.
>>96426470I don't know what you think you're arguing against. I was talking about who is likely to get offered as a companion, not what you can do with a companion that you helped win a throne after a succession crisis.
One of my assumptions in the cyoa is that anyone with an age that’s really close to a multiple of 100 was a previous choice option. So Keter could have chosen Maou or Ciliren for something, for example, but didn’t. Everyone else probably thought of this too but I thought it was neat.
>>96426491To be fair, hard to not basically be social distancing when we're all trying to keep our parents/companions/mentors in mind when choosing our locations. Lot of languages and encounters to juggle around. I think it's funny that a lot of Outsiders might not be able to talk to each other since not everyone took Everman, although I suppose maybe we could use English if we remember it.
Can you choose Pantorai as a father, then use true love on Paxia?
>>96426541No, it doesn't work on Siblings.
>>96426541Yes
dragoncels are the worst
>>96426541Yes, remember to take Apantoxia too to ensure she grooms you
>>96426546Another one for anons collection
>>96426526Generational choices by the System? Makes sense. I noticed a few people had Mentor/Companions vibes for our predecessors, but haven't thought of it that way.
>>96426541It only gives a case for siblings that you created by taking the Sibling option. It’s up to your interpretation.
>>96426546It explicitly does, it's only parents it doesn't work on
>>96426541No, but you can choose Pantorai as a father, then use true love on Apantoxia. It is the way.
>>96426560You'll end up with the whole thread at this rate...
I'm considering picking Evdokia because the option's only really there so you can disrupt one of Charlie's plans and help a lot in the greater fight, but 5 Destiny Points...
>>96426539I kind of like the idea of English accidentally becoming a world language just because outsider/outsider pairings speak it at home and their kids inherit it. Maybe it makes its way to the Exarchate and the westabu in New New York start learning it as a hobby.
>>96426418I will make her a companion with Fudge and I VILL reunite her with her waifu, then snowball their empire and unga rush at the false goddess with an army of Majin and the super lesbian duo.
>>96426574Just make her Gunter's waifu, easiest choice of mt life.
>>96426577>Spreading and diluting the Holy TongueEvery single one of our predecessors managed to gatekeep it from the locals, why would you ruin that?
>>96426585Our bro Gunter never stops picking up value.
>>96426585nta, but I gave him Araith. Which waifu did you give your Gunters anons?
>>96426577If Outsiders are all taken from this thread, how many languages ends up in Doria? English is obvious, I think I saw Icelandic and French somewhere, maybe Spanish if the Entropistposters are still here...what else?
>>96426601YMRD
>>96426601Gunter is my waifu
>>96426601Evdokia, Ota and Dobrava (no, I didn't use any variation of the Nilmatrix trick).I will groom him into being an Shonen protagonist and he will win.
>>96426609>(no, I didn't use any variation of the Nilmatrix trick).Wasted companion.
>>96426601Omega
Blazkho, Dobrava, and Gunter. The underpriced GOATs
>>96426601Inga, Dobrava, Araith
>>96426574>>96426585>>96426596Gunter into Dobrava, Nilmatrix and Evdokia with you and Omega (Ot) is pure anti-Charlie spite pick.Way to become number one on her shitlist even above elves and Keter.
>>96426615Amen. Put Blazhko on Respawning Point to turn him into a majin
Everyone creating a super powered Gunter might have trouble in the future. Consider his character traits and what they might lead to after 0^0 is gone.
>>96426609>I will groom him into being an Shonen protagonist and he will win.He already is, SRTR's favored son
>>96426601Him to me. I give him Respawning Point and Yee him into becoming a girl.
>>96426493>How strong is Oko Shtorma?She should probably be weaker than dragon-form Araith, since she costs a point less. But she's also a massive warmachina build to fight gods and true dragons, so pretty strong.
>>96426633The 12th can deal with him
>>96426633Not my problem.
>>96426633Blazhko will stop him
I have finished my very incomplete build ratehttps://rentry.co/ORbuildrate1It probably has some issues, and makes many assumptionsI am unlikely to update it with newcomers beyond world 3
>>96426632With Ouk as Letter of Damned so he can learn more.
>>96426649I will be doing interactions later but I actually need to write them and it's annoying(Like write as in write what happens, not actual writefag stuff)
>>96426633Meh, my boy Blazkho easily clears with his insane five 5 point mentor roster.
>>96426652Give him lemi-whatever to turn him into a mentor as well so every mentor you pick for him, you can learn from him too.
>>96426590Every single one of our ancestors played on single player. If outsiders need it to communicate with each other in the Tide, it's gonna get spoken
>>96426661I've been thinking about that. Can he also pass on her lessons so that I could also teach other people?
>>96426649>The 12th is in the case a cute girl with ethereal beauty who gushes over everyone but becomes crabby and illogical when exposed to the slightest competition>Took thoroughbreeding, and some 1 cost gifts they noticed no one hadI would've done the same, I'll protect her from the others
>>96426634>>96426634>>96426634
>>96426633>12th arrive in five-way "friendly war" between Gunter, Keter, Blazkho, Omega and 11th
>>96426673I would think so, that's partially how I use him.
>>96426678Jokes on you all of those except Me and Omega will die in the war against the Eucumene.
Most of the biggest threats were taken out right before Charlie arrived and she still fucked up.
>>96426649Biased as hell.
>>96426692Yes!
Anyone collecting builds for solos?
>>96426692He said it as such. It's all bullshit.
>>96426635And also my favored friend.
>>96426692Duh?Everything is subjective. He's rating his personal appreciation of the builds.Sorry your highest stat is C- lil'bro.
>>96426702What ever do you mean?
>>96426678Keter isn’t fit to be in such vaunted company.
>>96426577>>96426539>>96426590>>96426602You all seem to be forgetting that Salian (the language of Tumen) is literally English, just written in Cyrillic. English is known, it just isn't called that.
>>96426633Nah, I can fix him. Or just send him to suffer endlessly fighting Uruks and Nightmares. He's a good boy st heart.
>>96426710A collection of non-tide builds.
>>96426602>FrenchIt's a solo build. We're good.
>>96426720The chronological list has them
>>96426602Russian
>>96426726That's just God-Script.
>>96426715Where does it say this?
>>96426723Time to be nosey and judgemental
>>96426649>Shits on the Az Uruk buildsBased
>>96426721And I will update it to Outer Tide just for (You).
>>96426649>Worst victim of the twelve bowlYou'll see, when my write up is complete you'll all see!*Runs off into the night laughing maniacally*
>>96426728Read the samples.Salien is EnglishPalatine is LatinEverman/Old Norhern/Auburn are slavic langauges, I can't reliably tell them apart esp with alphabet swap
>>96426633That's why you give everyone without true love a proper death letter without any ways out.
>>964266330^0 has nothing indication she is a masochist like him. If anything, he'd gladly die for the world or for (You).Can you imagine if he was a girl? Everyone would be claiming her as a waifu.
You don't need Ethereal Beauty if you picked JNPL, right? Surely Mom wouldn't let you be a 5/10 with a group of 11s?
>>96426727It's just Everman really.
>>96426737>Uruks are green>Frogs are greenCoincidence?
>>96426761JNPL loves consequences and middling storiesYou are going to have 3 bad features to get sad about and 3 good ones for your waifu to notices
>>96426776JNPL is a shit mom confirmed
>>96426761I doubt you're gonna be ugly. But you ain't gonna be at the level of the Ethereal boyz.
>>96422333Hybrid Disease is a perfect example of mechanics subverting logic. A species interbreeding within itself having problems is such bullshit.
>>96426761You would probably be a perfect 5 for the world. She is a normalfag enjoyer.
Why is the nightmare blue?Blue’s not a scary color.
>>96426790It's supposed to be erotic
>>96426789Have you seen the samples we were given? Even the unnotable ones are beautiful. Only Uruks seem not to be pretty by default.
>>96426805For the world, yes. But maybe outsiders just have really low standards.
>>96426761Ethereal Beauty is a must if you want to be majin and pick your Letter among last ones.
New thread, something about pigs, et cetera>>96426803>>96426803>>96426803
>>96426790True Dragons
>>96426788They were assigned traits by gods, not natural selection.
>>96426790Blue is a horrifying color. If you sleep in this bed, you will only see nightmares that scar you forever. It's cursed.
>>96426813Anon...
>>96426813I want to have a 1500 post thread again. We’re just on page 8
Hey Anons, I'm finishing my first cyoa (1st page snake peak) and I have a question:When I'm ready to publish, should I wait for fresh cyoag or just create a thread for it?Dunno if you all even check out other threads.
>>96426822Hah, I see, must have just missed it.
0^0 is rarted. Numbers are not the opposite of letters, they're both subsets of script. This is why you can assign meaning to numbers to subvert mathemagic.The true opposite to a world of made of letters, is a world of raw experience. Pure thought, unbound by letters.
>>96426813Too soon
>>96426649>Not rating solo buildsBooo.
>>96426833Post now. Here. Do it.
>>96426649>This is a dead linkTry this one https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#q96399427
>>96426833Depends on the state of the thread. If we're past the bump limit, it's better to create a new thread with it as the OP ; otherwise simply post it here like usual.
>>964268400^0 is literally just notation abuse with 0 meaningIt was foreshadowed from the start
>>96426833Up the file size. There is still 5.9 MB to use. Get rid of that artifact.
>>96426833You don't need to create another one. Threadmakers usually make new CYOAs the OP, but you're a little late this time. Just post it.
>>96426849Tell me your buildI will make an exception, just for you
>>96426833I like where this is going so far, post the rest.
>>96426676>>96426813New threads before page 9 is a sin.
>>96426862Nah. I'm a big attention whore, but a stealth one.
>>96426649Well done!
>>96426840I don't even seen 0^0 as a number, it's a pouting emoticon. Let's turn that frown upside down 0v0
Ok, well if Someone happens to by chance have a minor update for their solo build, and that completely anonymous someone were to post it, I would love them and shower them in affection
>>96426649Nah, I can fix Keter and win (flee) vs the megabitch.
>>96426850>>96426856>>96426867I like that you are excited, but I haven't finished the last pages (my stupid ass thought that it would be a good idea to make 14 pages long cyoa). Will be ready around Sunday or so.I'll give you making off commentary as apology.
>>96426881I would just call her UwU in her face.
Would 0^0 be mad if we just insist on calling her Charlie every time? It's a cute nickname.
>>96426649Nice, thanks.
>>96426856>>96426889Putting a png version on imgchest is also good practice.
>>96426869Nah, it only happened because you wanted to see big numbers. Page 5 is golden.
>>96426889Then it'll be in time for a new thread if the current pace keeps up. Rooting for you.
>>96426910No more mad than Keter if we call her Katya every time.
How the fuck do I make my build multiplayer? Does everything have to be non overlapping or what?
>>96426922The very first page of the cyoa explains it.
>>96426922Unnotable Ones, no mentors, no companions :^)
>>96426896Even better>>96426910That and making comments about her past. She doesn't know that we know more about her lore and history, it's time to bully her.
>>96426922See >>96425053 - there's an anon who divides builds between timelines so each timeline is overlap-free.
>>96426922>Does everything have to be non overlapping or what?Companions, Mentors, and Parents have to not overlap >>96426936Nah, if you're not trying to get into Az then there's plenty of Mentor and Companions people haven't picked yet..
>>96426649>Getting some of the highest stats in power and destinyHell yeah>Getting one of the lowest lifespans out of all builds with a lifespan modifiers...yeahGood news is Sight Beyond Sight + Overflowing Pupil is made for moments exactly like these to prevent myself from getting sealed. I'm going to live forever! Or maybe 2800 years, whichever comes first.
>>96426922If you pick "outer tide" you're inBut to be in a given lobby you mustn't overlap with anyone in said lobby
>>96426930I think they mean how do they know who is available in tides. I'm curious too.
>>96426922Bruteforce it and make your own timeline.
What does "If you chose the location with it," mean for Language bonuses? Like you're born in the related location? As in Drakonian = Dragon Realm, Auburn = Old Throne, etc?
>>96426960Next page after languages is page with all possible locations, where you can see location language requirements and associated kingdom.
>>96426960It means the specific location you picked has it. All of the locations have languages that they commonly speak, not the nations themselves.
>>96426948>>96417151Here's a roughly put together list of every chosen companion, mentor, and parent in Az. Should be everything so far, though since Krinak was moved down to Buki his parents have opened up.
>>96426960The locations require having at least one of a list of languages, so that location counts as a location with all of those languages for the purposes of language bonuses.
>>96426953Technically, you can pick every build that isn't incompatible with yours if you don't obey >>96425053
>>96426649Well this seems better considered and fair than build ratings usually are.
>>96426936My build will be like that and I will fucking win on meta-knowledge and spite alone.
>>96426968>>96426969>>96426972Ohhh, thanks.
>>96426946Trapped in this case means surrounded by antimagic users and shot atNothing is certain though
>>96426981>meta-knowledge and spiteThat's mandatory for 11th Outsiders.
How much would you say these (and Dragon Transformation) are worth in points?
>>964269922, 3, 4, 1, 2and dragon would be 4
>>96426987trapped and betrayed in the hyperbolic torture chamber for 1000 years...Good thing I didn't choose Kako otherwise I'd be in trouble. As it stands now however... nah, I'd win.
>>96426992Diminishment - 3Dragon - 2Letter - 3Daemonhost - 5Warmachina - 4Claim - 3
>>96426992Daemonhost would only be 5 because that’s the cap. It and several of the actual 5 pointers are worth more
How does the Gunter-Nilmatrix-Dobrava tactic work again if you're not picking his Encounters anyway? Is Nilmatrix being in his party enough to guarantee Shadow of God for him?
>>96426692Yes, he just assumes almost no one can beat 0^0, even though she only fought one outsider with shitty picks and couidn't even kill her lol
>>96426974You have to obey it. It's the rules. The CYOA said so. Don't be a filthy illegal, Anon.
>>96426649>Estimated time of death: [>300 years]hell yeah
>>96427020The cyoa only says that players with choices that overlap with yours won't be present with you, there are plenty of compatible builds in different worlds because of another build
>>96426833
>NilmatrixI always read her name as Milfmatrix somehow. Pls, help
>>96427087I've been calling her Jilmatrix this whole time without realizing it
>>96427087Help with reading or help with milves?
>>96422333Posting this from the other thread as someone suggested.It took a few days of work, but I've transcribed all of Outer Reincarnation into a character card for use with AI through Sillytavern and the like. So unwieldy at over 160k tokens is it that I had to toggle lazyLoadCharacters in the config file and bump up used RAM to 16GB to stop getting out of memory errors.While I doubt any AI at the moment could replicate Tank's writing or achieve a super great understanding of the CYOA's contents (nevermind engaging a CYOA with your imagination), the idea was to be able to have the gods comment back and forth as you put together your build. I'm no botmaker so the starting message is just what settings to change to not crash Sillytavern, and the card itself has no directions on how a model should interact with it, but the main CYOA's text (from the images themselves, not the excel document since I noticed there were differences) is all there, including the Outsiders page. So if anyone wants to fool around with it and make it into something more usable, or has any use for the CYOA's contents in plaintext, here you go. I skipped the first page's blessings, but tried to format everything else as best I could.https://files.catbox.moe/ymrbv4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6rnau0.json
>>96427087And I think about JNPL as a mother, SRTR as a daughter, YMRD as a sister and 0^0 as my ex.
>>96427138And which do you want to fuck most?I always thought of ymrd like a daughter (Erotic) and srtr like a sister
Daemonhost is not a top tier gift. It’s not even great.
>>96426737>>96422333Update to Balrog, exchanging Grey Wandering for double Dream Passage and making him a Uruk/Majin halfbreed thanks to the nifty loophole.Sociopathic french goblins are back (now in your dreams too!)>PatronSRTR >Reincarnation: Outer Tide (because Anon got cocky) Halfbreed (because someone MUST make a Uruk/Majin build) -2A, -2D>NameBALROG THE EMERALD KING! ( promptly nicknamed "Bog the Gob")>ParentageTHE BOYS>RaceUruk/Majin. The Hybrid loophole is fun, sure, but from a narrative perspective I really like it. Both races born from dreams united once again.>Location Mamet Interior. Best soil for total Uruk victory. I'll quickly veer into Mamet Exterior to fuck Charlie up, no need to select Archaia.>Language Everman only. The trollish logic remains.>Inborn giftsLetter of the Damned, Inhumanity, Spirit Tap, Boiling Blood, Dream Passage, Bestial Strength, Second Wind, Martial Instinct, Grey Wandering, PanarmamentNow the real question - can an Majin/Uruk create Uruks out of dream? I can already picture it, leaving french goblins in the dreams of everyone just for kicks. I hope Charlotte have good dream barriers, otherwise I'm going to revisit every single bad dream with my gang.>MentorXet (Zelo), Lukag (Qoppa)Waiting for them to drop by Mamet is too long, so I Untimeskip them both. I'll do my battle to the death with Xet without fate butting in.J'ai sélectionné Lukag pour rendre ma poésie encore plus irritante, même si elle reste semi-incompréhensible pour les autres. It will backfires 100%, but that's half the fun and I'm an Uruk.>companions Nimatrix (Shadow of God), Su'uq, Ahelth (Glagoli, Just a Nightmare)>DeathBuki. She's still going down.>QuestLiberta. I don't have grand aspirations - my real life is already behind me. Now I'm just content being an Orc that sabotages earth and dreams alike. Bonus points for anoying Charlie. She'd be insulted that I'm having fun despite the threats.
>>96427147Obviously Charlie
>>96427114This sounds pretty good but I don't have the means to implement it.
>>96427163
>>96427087>Milfmatrix>Anon is getting betrayed by a motherly matron
>>96427163The most successful outsider had only daemonhost and some mental boons.
One sane Uruk build. I'd suck you off. Please.
>>96427205I thought I was pretty saneIs going to the moon really such a bad idea?
>>96427163Taking every regular (not demonhost or half-ascended) majin in the CYOA as a companion would be 26 points. That's an imperfect comparison; it's not like you get a copy of each of those characters, but it illustrates how insane the gift is.
>>96427216What's your death letter?
>>96427233*26 points with all dice fudges free, I should add.
>>96427240iotated lesser yus, triggered intentionally in a cloning experiment
>>96427190Aat was NOT the most successful Outsider
>>96427190Remember that's only what they started with. Over time they gained other skills, magic, and knowledge we don't see listed.
>>96427205>Granny Jotünn>Moonguy>French FriesThey're fine. Wait until you get a true warlord.
>>96427190HALL OF FAME OF OUTSIDER SUCCESSFULNESS (in the sense of making the largest-scale impact in the direction she wanted)1. Charlie2. Vtorusha. Look at all the green3. Aat
>>96427291how would they react to being called that
>>96427320But only Aat has a whole race worshipping him many years after his death.
>>96427335(((We))) are still hyping up Vtorusha.
>>96427334Granny Jotünn starts a tangent.Moonguy is bemused - you almost had it right. French Fries laughs maniacally.
>>96427320The dark elves deserve what they got for their betrayal.
>>96427397>The dark elves deserve what they got for their betrayal.QRD? I don't see any mentions of them in the text.
>>96427407In maps they are called "maevians". In timeline it's "dark elves".
The less elves the better. Make room for better races.
>>96422333>>96422345>>96422505I'm changing my Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot build to Outer Tide.Going back to 3x Shadow Footwork for that Ultra Instinct. Swapped to All-Glimpse as well, it's better than Fighter's Eye x2 and only 1 more point. 2x Wereplague (rip sapience), but turning into a monkey makes sense for Goku. I also got both magic talents, might as well.Still taking Nilmatrix so I can get immortality or die trying.Anyways...:>god0^0>reincarnationMaiosara Yesod: free (Slot C)Vadim Sacro-Ionian: free (Slot A)Adoption: -1DPYaropolk Neo-Aeolian: -3 DP (Slot C)Untimeskip: -2 DPBurn the Future x6: +7AP -14DP Outer Tide>racemuddish: +3AP, +1 Mentor>languagesAuburn (untimeskip if location)Everman (+3DP for location)Simplified Duergar (-2DP, +1AP for all unfilled mentor and companion slots, so +5AP)Sylphid (-2DP, +1 mentor slot)>locationDis (+mentor slot)>giftsRoyal ClaimWarmachina MountingNoble InclinationIntelligenceMisalliance: Maiosara Yesod (+10AP)Wereplague x2 (+4AP)Bestial Strength, -4APBoiling Blood -3APSecond Wind -3APMartial Instinct -2APSpiritual Feel -2APCaster Intuition -2APAll Glimpse -5APIcon of Icons -5APVigilant Strand -1APFar Grazex2 -8APShadow Footwork x3 -9APAutoantecedence -5APCognitive Speed -2AP>mentors (5)0^0 -5AP, -5DP. Untimeskip---->companions (3)Brastat, Syn Rarruta (slot C)Nilmatrix->encountersA Bridge, A Toll, a Troll (+2AP/+2DP)A Score of Orcs (+2AP/+1DP)A Band of Ogres (+1AP/+2DP)A Hop, a Lean, a Hobgoblin (+1AP/+1DP)A Pack of Goblins (+1AP)Upward Spiral (Brastat)Shadow of God (Nilmatrix)>deathsGoku: BukiMaiosara Yesod: TsyVadim Sacro-Ionian: Her'v'Yaropolk Neo-Aeolian: GlagoliBrastat, Syn Rarruta: Slovo, Zhivete>youthMartial TrainingLeadership TrainingTravelingPower Testing>questAmeno
>>96427455Who could be behind this post?
>>96427458>->->->-What is wrong with you?
>>96427469Someone with immaculate taste.
>>96426649>It is implied by the "DO NOT-" that picking 0^0 is a very bad choice, plausibly letting her view you on your journey or speak to you directlyIIRC the consensus was that the "DO NOT" referred to something else but I don't remember what.
>>96427470I hunger for points.And all the good mentors are already taken in Outer Tide lol.
>>96427482From memory of a tankista post somewhere I believe it was picking Buki.
>>96427482Ameno
>>96427508There’s nothing stopping you from taking Ameno then reinstating the elder gods
>>96422333Destiny Points = External FateAncestry Points = Internal Fate
>>96427530Destiny Points = pink pointsAncestry Points = green points
>>96427530Ancestry points = pastDestiny points = future
>>96427530Destiny Points = fodderAncestry points = only points that matter
>>96427560>Ignoring mentors you can timeskip
>>96427320Where do you find these maps of different time periods? I've seen them before but I can't seem to find them on the drive.
>>96427581You can always study for knowledge, but you can't retroactively go back and get gifts.Unless you Fiert or something but its unlikely you'll be able to get something better then you would in the Outsider System.
>>96427581>timeskip*untimeskipGet it right. You'd blow yourself up with that spelling.
>>96427591A little mispeling never hurted anyon
>>96427587https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylpages 30 to 44.I use cubari.moe to browse it for the sleeker UI, https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/5xy22anpnyl/1/44/
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>>96427599Thank you so much.
>>96427602This is canon to OR's world by the way.
Charlotte is right about the elves.
Who is the best Fiert target, want to make a build that abuses Tenyita the best.
>>96427679Empyrean hands typed this post.
What do we know about Qliphoth, the Lichyard and the Deathguard the Encounter "Immortal Coils of Intrigue" is center around ?
>>96422505>Goku Master ChiefThanks, I hate it.
>>96427703>QliphothMeanie necromancer kingdom.>DeathguardDaemonhunt for Undead>LichyardProbably a place or an organization
>>96427688Blazhko after you Majin him
You're giving fresh Majin concubines to your companions, right bros?
>>96427715Blazhko probably has 0 Inborn Gifts though, and the yee would destroy the Fiert.
>>96427721Bro, i'm giving them to the other outsiders.
>>96427741You Majin him with an encounter. Dei will resurrect him with your chosen template. Like with Seo template or anything you come up with.
>>96427748They already have their true loved waifus
>>96427714>Lichyard>Probably a place or an organizationLichyard means the liches who took over Qliphoth after Erginter killed Inga Yesod. Malkuth didn't like them, and Deathguard (which might be based in Malkuth?) hunted them down. In their last throes, some of them raised Inga Yesod back from death to help them, but she killed them.
>read torrential tide5 less points made them jobbers lmao. Even our weakest build crush theirs.
>>96427877Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
>>96427114This should really be converted into a lorebook desu
>>96427721You better not be calling my mom Aes a concubine anon
>>96427488>>96427508Buki doesn't require you to take Ameno, it's perfectly valid with E Nomine.
>>96428004She's made to please her betters.
>>96426649 Do you think the 12th would be able to save your build from death?
>>96427757Did not ask, everyone who has taken Thoroughbreeding VILL breed.
>>96428037I'd be based like One and make sure my description suggests how I want to die, only for Twelve to hit me with the Zhivete/Yee combo, that clingy bitch.
>>96427993That was my initial thought, but aside from not being familiar with making them, the problem is that Outer Reincarnation's lore is spread across everything. So unless you were to break down and catalogue every detail, pulling only certain parts of the CYOA at a time in context would result in a huge lack of information.Though maybe someone who is better with lorebooks can go for it.
>>96422333>Build Name: Orc-In-A-Box>Character Name: Fir Dahort>Patron: SRTR>Gender: Male>Perks: Untimeskip, Outer Tide, Extra Mentor x5 >Father: The Horde >Race: Uruk>Languages: Everman (untimeskipped), Fay>Location: Dis (but actually the box)>Inborn Gifts: Bestial Strength, Wereplague, Starsight x1, Inner Vision x1, Icon of Icons, Azure Wreath, Magician's Hand, Bleeding Heart Gesture, Greatriding Spurs x1, Kneeling Twilight x1, Inhumanity>Mentors: Xet, Maou, Spako, Leimeie, Strokrad Syn Berheaka, Tenyota, Gewrgrin Aureole, Rhucuphre-From-Maeve>Companions: N/A>Death: Theta>Youth: Martial Training, Magical Training, Theology, Natural Philosophy>Quest: PatientiaFir likes Orcs, so he decided to roll one. The gimmick seems to be respawning, but it looks like you don't keep any of the inborn gifts after your first death, which sucks but it's whatever. At least there's a mentor that lets you trade those for spells. Problem is that it looks like you suck at magic unless you've got the magic gifts, but maybe if you make spells out of the gifts that help you do magic you can make something work. It's not like you've got anything better to spend the green points on. Spend pink points on mentors that'll help with raiding the Ecumene, and grab Leimeie in hopes that the horde is smart enough to learn at least some of this shit. Outer tide cuz lmao no way you're saving the world as an orc in this setting. Best you can do is make trouble for the big bad, so that's what he'll do. What happens after the win is future Fir problems.
>>96428102>I'd be based12th is going to cringe because you're not a hot waifu and give you a political execution when he's done with you.
>>96425053>>96425928Oh right I forgot to explain the new unsortable column. Its not a matter of errors or legality, I included illegal builds and did not take legality into account when sorting builds only chronological order and overlap. The unsortable column is simply my way of avoiding to add new worlds that have nothing but 1 outsider only. Basically to be unsortable you'd have to take characters that are simply too popular and have been taken by too many builds. Its not an exhaustive list but to give an example those characters are Keter, Dirk Yesod, Feodwra, Omega, Evdokia, Eirina and Dei .
>>96428141Fir picked mystery box because skipping the annoying "convince mentors you're not evil" mechanic sounded cool, and this death slot thing is kinda lame. Plus anything could be in the box. He's not sure how he feels about the results. One the one hand, he can maybe pass his inborn-gift-magic to other outsiders, which is kinda cool. On the other hand, if the Ecumene conquers all the orc-lands on Mamet before he even gets to spawn in, he's gonna be mad.
>>9642814612th is going to be a stinky NEET woman who likes RPGs and fantasy stories, fuck you.
>>96428156It's funny how the 'I can fix him' bait characters almost all die before the 12th if that's the case.
Why didn't Charlotte just find a therapist
>>96428170Perhaps a foreign concept in this world.
>>96428170>"I don't need a therapist. What are you implying?"
>>96428170She’s retarded
>>96428170She killed the goddess of therapy, probably makes finding a good one difficult
>>96428175It could be a thing in the Exarchate.
>>96428170Why seek therapy when you can be a god?
>>96428170It is impossible to have a therapeutic relationship with someone who you worship unless you are literally Jesus.
>>96428170She's the kind that creates more problems instead of facing the deep rooted issue.
>Gave Gunter ZeloFly high, brother.
>>96428204Good thing we can be.>Mother: JNPL
>>96428156She will be an anon from this thread that made himself into a waifu seeking other waifus.
>>96428231She's going to be a magical girl.
>>96428228I'm not sure about the efficacy of trying for both 0^0 and JNPL's favor, but maybe you have a point and she would cool down if she knows that you're under the auspices of the comfy goddess instead of the munchkin one.
>>96428150>On the other hand, if the Ecumene conquers all the orc-lands on Mamet before he even gets to spawn in, he's gonna be mad.Let's hope you're on the right world, then.
>>96428148Heavenly Father's blessings be upon you for keeping me and everyone else away from that glorified singleplayer build.
>>96428262>that glorified singleplayer buildAren't they all, thanks to the social distancing?
>>96428257How is this tide handling box builds anyways? Just on every world since there are no conflicts?
>>96428244She sure is
>>96428283I don't know. We haven't really discussed the interactions yet. I'd assume all the toyboxers are either everywhere or "choose" their world.
Where did the original Xian come from?Was he associated with Vtorusha in some way? I don't see why he'd be so mad at the dark elves otherwise.
>>96428283Going by the current method of sorting, they should all be in the first world. Them picking is also fine. I would hate for them to be cloned everywhere.
The thread is about to get pushed off, so just in case,THE NEXT THREAD IS THIS:>>96426634>>96426634>>96426634
>>96428316I assumed the same place that all races come from - gods made them.
>>96428316Gods wanted a new antagonist
>>96428316If the Majin are the letters of the world taken to life, I'm guessing it's whatever wound was made on the world after Vtorusha and the True Dragons argued themselves out of it. Aat must have had a reason to pick Xian.
>>96428588Xian's (the real one) stated motivation was to pay the elves back for all their crimes though, so one would think he was someone or something emergent from Vtorusha's side, which was mostly humans and half the Underdwellers.
>>96427087I keep trying to write her as nihilmatrix and i dunno why
>>96427530Destiny points = [YRMD] pointsAncestry points = [SRTR] points
