Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>96422333
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>>96426654Its too late, cyoag has been taken over by redditors.
Where is softie
>>96420871I will keep to my oath.
>>96426713I fucked himTO DEATH!
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It took a few days of work, but I've transcribed all of Outer Reincarnation into a character card for use with AI through Sillytavern and the like. So unwieldy at over 160k tokens is it that I had to toggle lazyLoadCharacters in the config file and bump up used RAM to 16GB to stop getting out of memory errors.While I doubt any AI at the moment could replicate Tank's writing or achieve a super great understanding of the CYOA's contents (nevermind engaging a CYOA with your imagination), the idea was to be able to have the gods comment back and forth as you put together your build. I'm no botmaker so the starting message is just what settings to change to not crash Sillytavern, and the card itself has no directions on how a model should interact with it, but the main CYOA's text (from the images themselves, not the excel document since I noticed there were differences) is all there, including the Outsiders page. So if anyone wants to fool around with it and make it into something more usable, or has any use for the CYOA's contents in plaintext, here you go. I skipped the first page's blessings, but tried to format everything else as best I could.
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>>96426986Seems like 4chan edits the image so it doesn't work. I'll catbox it once the website is responsive.
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>>96427004and...done.finally.
>>96426986>>96426995Here https://files.catbox.moe/ymrbv4.png
>>96426986>>96427027Explain to a poor AI noob, what are you talking about?
>>96426986>>96427027You should repost your stuff in this thread >>96422333That's where everyone is at currently.
>>96427045I'm not really the guy to explain how text-based AI works. But this essentially gives all the 'information' of the CYOA to the AI, which if the model has enough context for (amount of words it can process at once) and depending on how well it understands it, could use it in the way you want.I haven't attempted to use it since the only model I have access to with high context is Gemini (which in my experience gets pretty schizo after 126k context), but in theory you could essentially say 'You roleplay the gods, I'll be the 11th outsider who just arrived' and it would respond to you as you pick options and talk to the gods.
>>96426986>at over 160k tokensGood grief, is there any local model that can even work with that? My preferred ones go up to 32k context maximum.
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>>96427115No idea. Was never able to go back to local models after trying non-locals.
>>96427290It sounds like the non-locals can be larger, but 160k would probably still kill it. I'm finding 32k for plus, 128k for enterprise/pro.
>>96427176This build's much more 'a character' than something I'd actually want to happen. But then, 'being' a dungeon is always going to be a pretty hard sell, I think.
Does anyone got the 40k planetary governor cyoa to post it here? It ain't in the AllSync. Hell, it's not even on reddit.
>>96427381https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3?dir=/CYOAs%20Genres/Science%20Fiction%20Based%20CYOAs/Planetary%20Governor%20CYOAThis is a nice thing about downloading the whole allsync once a year or so, then you can search it normally.
>>96427400Would a world with 19th century technology be "Civilized" or "Feudal"?
>>96427359Gemini supposedly has up to 1 million, but I'd imagine the model gets worse at certain thresholds.
Thread been offly quiet since Tankista and Outer Reincarnation took over.Entropist status? Ordion status? Husanon status? Tok status? Lmao italics status? Any other authors?
>>96427648I think Ordion said Dungeon Delver v2 was wrapping up.
>>96427648Ultimate God only has a few more pages until it's done.
>>96427648Echoes PSY is right around the corner... I'm sure of it... This time for sure...!
>>96427648The status of my 30 page masterpiece is almost done. Just two more years.
>>96427434>Would a world with 19th century technology be "Civilized" or "Feudal"?I'd say it's probably the low end of Civilized.
>>96427648Everyones waiting for the redditors to clear out.
>>96427780But I'm so comfortable here at /tg/cyoag/...
>>96426765This is such a bad CYOA
>>96427835For me it's a case where the visuals are bad enough that the substance never gets a chance.
>>96427868>the visuals are bad enough that the substance never gets a chanceAnyways, enough about anime CYOAs
>>96427913It's not anime vs non-anime, it's about layout design.
>>96427932oh okyou are forgiven then
Kind of want to make my own cyoa. What software works best? Pic unrelated.
>>96428031https://rentry.co/cyoag#cyoa-authoring-resources
>>96428031MSPaint
>>96428048>>96428058Cheers
>>96427648>Tok status?Still painting up my Warhammer army and I'm not gonna work on any CYOAs until it is done. I'll probobly finish my army this year so maybe early next year I will release Hentai Heroine, pic realted
>>96428122I've never painted minis before. Does it usually take months to do?
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>>96428122bro you have taken too long Tim has won the /trash/ race
>>96428177Depends how you paint them. It can go really fucking fast if you do it slapchop style but I fucking detest that way of painting and like to paint my minis the the absolute best of my ability, pic realted
>>96427674>Echoes PSY is right around the corner... I'm sure of it... This time for sure...!Italics here. I'm waiting on parts to come in through the mail so I can fix my laptop and reassemble it. All my CYOAs are on pause until then.
>>96428288It's okay... I can wait... I'm used to it...
>>96428288Sorry to hear that. I wish you luck reassembling your laptop.
>>96428235I don't care about /trash/ those fuckers can rot in hell because they wanted to stay in /trash/ when we could have moved the lewd CYOA thread to /aco/. Which would be so much better because there the lewd CYOA community could begin to grow again. But no, those furfags wanted to stay and ever since that I have not done shit for them. They are too stupid to live and I hope their thread withers and dies in obscurity.
>>96428288>>96428309Why is Echoes so cursed?
What is the best pokemon CYOA?
>>96428394Pikachu Cumslut.
>>96428379Each second you spend WAITING is fuelling his phylactery.
>>96427102But how do you "roleplay" with the AI like do you go to a website, do you have to download something?
>>96428272I'm only moderately familiar with the Warhammer settings>Dark Elves◆◇◇◇◇I hate S&M/stripclub/tribal-tattoo-aesthetics takes on elves>Tomb Kings◆◆◇◇◇I like skeletons, but Egyptian theme doesn't resonate with me and many parts look like late 20th century car parts, I strongly dislike the bottom left figure, I like bottom right figure>Legion of Everblight◆◆◇◇◇I dislike stupid looking weapons like the bottom right has, female figures honestly almost always look bad, humanoid miniatures tend to look best when they are blockily shaped>Eldar◆◆◇◇◇not really evocative of elves, big mecha looks dumb>Stormcast eternal◆◆◆◆◇red dragon is ok, magma dragon is really cool shaped, except the red veins of magma on it look kind of like bruises or like the figure has been damaged and color has worn off and not cool at all
>>96428406Phylactery for what?
>>96428272Stormcast eternals
>>96428447Sovls.
>>96428400based cyoa
>>96426713University, moving, and not caring at all about OR so i'm not posting.
>>96428569SOFTIE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAVE US
>>96426713Who is that?
>>96428427I use sillytavern, but I wouldn't call it user-friendly. I'm afraid I can't help much other than recommending looking up some kind of guide on youtube or /g/ if you want to get into it.>>96427115Seems like Gemini might actually be able to do something.
>>96428472For what?
>>96428599If only I had a reverse proxuy...
>>96428577>SOFTIE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAVE USThe wildfire has to stop burning before the new trees can grow.
>>96428599So you have to install something it's not like online website's where you can talk to versions of fictional characters.
>>96428599This is pretty cool. You should post your playthrough.
For OR do either of these sound viable? Using Panarmament to bypass the piece of Old Throne missing and start up the Greater Warmachia with Ytorusha inside? Collect Main templates of every letter and have them recite their meanings they have instinctive knowledge of in order to complete a full sentence of the Godscript Alphabet and ascend to godhood. Might need a way to hive mind them or otherwise make them considered one.
>>96428652>metafaggotryNO!
>>96428122>still shitposts here all day though
>>96428652Is your other thread already dead?
>>96428599Does it only facilitate the "some people are in a room and leisurely chatting" kind of scenarios? That's boring and cringe imo. I've found that in LLM fantasy scenarios, something more tangible is necessary to keep it fun, like rooms that characters can move between, items that they can hold and use and drop and give, etc.
>>96428652Can you wield a broken tool?Using those templates, do you think you can assemble a meaningful sentence of Godscript that would ascend you?
>>96428652Hearing other people recite their Meaning doesn't mean you really comprehend it.
>>96428652Having all of the parts of something doesn't mean you have the whole. How are you going to assemble the understanding of all of those Majin into one proper Meaning?
>>96428703I'm also not convinced that Yer/Yery/Yer' majin can actually exist. They're living spells, and spells that start with those letters just instantly kill the caster.
>>96428720That's just because nobody has deciphered their Meaning properly, so they're being misused.
>>96428703>>96428702>>96428693Maybe Starsight or All Glimpse could help parse meaning out of it.
>>96428309You remember that time you excitedly thought Echoes was going to come out early 7 years ago? It was me, Anon. I broke into Italics house and forced him to focus only on Magi Case and kept erasing his data so he would have to restart. Then I went online and made him think dropping spells was a good idea so that when you didn't get Echoes, you wouldn't be able to enjoy Magi Case either.
>>96428730Could be. I interpreted it as a syntax error, like you how you're not supposed to start English sentences with conjunctions.
>>96428745I'll make you pay someday
>>96428756Right after you get Echoes PSY, right?
>>96428737I mean, if it were that easy someone would've already done it. Starsight requires that the writer understand the Meaning, and it explicitly doesn't work if gods are the ones writing. All glimpse is dependent on your own skill with it, and if you were good enough with the All-Glimpse to read the Godscript from start to finish, you'd already be a god.
https://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information>Chronological Build ListA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407068Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96371953/#96372789Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96401396Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96380342Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856Father of the Paracausal Arts (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411446The Wandering Professor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96422872Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393951Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394148Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406404Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910From the ALL https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96396474Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96399427
>>96428803Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96401172King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96410023Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141
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>>96428751What is a conjunction?
>>96428803The Wandering Professor version 2Blessing of JPNLPatron: YMRDMaleMother: Maiosara YesodFather: PirAdoption: Afanisiy Sauromat (18) TutoredDice Fudge Adoption: Jdan (Tutored) (16)Race: Southlander (18 D, 21 A) (+1 Companion slot)Languages: Quietened: Auburn, Nymphe (21)Elven NorthernerSimplified Duergar (18 D)Bonewhisper (17 D)Palantiner (16 D)Place of Birth: Hexland (+1 Companion Slot)Encounters (And slot based language bonus): (33 D, 32 A)A bridge, a Toll, a Troll (18 D, 23 A)A Score of Orcs (19 D, 25 A)A Band of Ogres (21D, 26 A)A Hop, a Lean, a Hobgoblin (22 D, 27 A)A lone Gremlin (23 D) Gifts: Misalliance: Yesod (46 A)Bitter Sickness (50 A)Intelligence Cognitive speed (48 A)Attentiveness (46)Caster's Intuition Spiritual Feel (44)Wisdom (42)Noble Inclination (40)Azure Wreath (38)Grey Wanderingx2 (28)Magician's Handx2 (22)Starsightx2 (18)Enochian Brand (16)Memory Retention (14)Vigilant Strand (13)Autoantecedene (8)Starsight (6)Ethereal Beauty (5)Icon of Icons (0)Royal Claim: MalkuthMentors:Eirina (30 D) Nothing Ever Happens Feodwra (25 D) (Tutored) Just a NightmareExtra Mentor (8, 24)Dirk Yesod (18) (Tutored) (Iyndis, Leimeie) a dark and stormy nightExtra mentor (6, 17)Pukluxun (13) Hidden Amidst the CloudsExtra mentor (4, 12)Herleva (8) The Red GooExtra Mentor (2, 7)Opoia (5) Untimeskip (1)Companions: ZiltchDeath marks:Dirk Yesod B: Lesser Yus-Zemlya Maiosara Yesod C: Slovo-Yee (4)Pukluxun C: ShtaPir B: On-ZemlyaAfanasiy Sauromat B: Iotated Greater Yus-ZhiveteFeodwra C: TsyEirina C: OukMe: Vedi-Zemlya (3)Childhood: Magical Training, Leadership Training, Treasure Hunting, TravelingQuest: FundamentumQuick update to professor, it should be fully legal now. Not sure if royal claim gets hit by misalliance but I'm not very interested in it anyway.
>>96428784>elfYou now remember that Italics was apparently working on a some high fantasy mage world or something but with kino HMoFE CYOA.Feels bad
>>96428803>>96428806Which of the lone builds do you wish would join a tide?
>>96428837Outer tide, almost forgot.
>>96428828words like "and" and "or" and such
>>96428844Balrog. We lack Uruk builds and his flippant attitude was a good counterbalance to all the goal-oriented builds.
>>96428859He joined it recently.>>96428844Paracausalbro.
>>96428863Honestly I don't even remember if Paracausal is legal or not. It'd be a massive pain to de-toybox it either way, though.
I wish more fantasy CYOAs had beastwomen options like in JRPG Traitor.
>>96428870We know.
>>96428870You mean catgirls or outright furries?
>>96428876>orWhy can't I have both?
>>96428869It's not, so he said to make it solo https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411580.
>>96428876Furry women > human woman with cat ear hairband and a butt plug.
>>96428902t. dogfucker
>>96428896Nah, the languages were wrong. I couldn't be bothered to fix them as I was frustrated by that point. Language didn't work with inheriting, couldn't buy them.
>>96428903If the dog in this situation has a anthropological form, hair, intelligence on the same level as a human, is capable of producing non-infertile offspring with a human, and can communicate and give consent.Why should you not be able to engage in sexual relations with them?
>>96428915They're ugly.
>>96428915They might have been mind-raped by a precursor civilization to have no choice accepting a Human relationship.
>>96428921So are you, but that doesn't mean love cannot bloom, Hunchback. You shouldn'5 not engage with people just becausw they might look ugly.>>96428927Okay and? So what? Like, if everyone consents it's all consensual.
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>JRPG Traitor>Beastmen are experiments by an ancient civilization>Lamentation>Beastmen are experiments by an ancient civilization>Outer Reincarnation>Beastmen are experiments by three bitches for ancient civilization.Big think.
>>96428940>three bitchesRespect my mom.
I'm still stuck in choice paralysis. Which is a stronger companion choice:Phershepa-from-Erebus via dice-fudge,or Ilfek-from-Duat reincarnated into a Majin via Respawn Point encounter, also using dice-fudge?Warmachina pilot, or custom Majin? Ancient assassin, or someone with ecumene fighting experience? Ilfek would probably also be more loyal.
>>96428945First of all, why do you want a dark elf so bad?
Honestly the hate towards furry characters is greatly over blown. Media, people, entertainment and humanity as a whole loves furry characters from ancient myths to books to movies and animated shows and video games.The whole le furry, fur suit shit is greatly overblown and hyper focused on by people clutching their pearls and constantly looking for it. As long as the presented characters are clean and drawn in a likeable style and presented that way, no one really goes "muh furries bad >:(."
>>96428949Yes, yes, furries are actually good and based and hot and whatever. Can we talk about CYOAs now?
>>96428945Unless you have access to Warmachinas that can sneak around, the custom Majin fighter is more practical.
>>96428949Just say "It's okay if it's kemono" that summarizes all your points better.
>>96428927I still can't believe Italics shoved that into the lore and no one in-universe actually knows about it. So now you have multiple races that have a hidden inclination to be friendly towards humans.I also wonder how that works in Lamentation. The world implies there are bandits and shit. So do the furries kill humans and avoid brainwashing completely? How does their world work? It presents itself as being friendly and PG-13 but reading it sounds like a rated M game.
>>96428955Why is it only kemono?
>>96428640An excerpt just for you anon.
>>96428967Because western styles tend to be ugly and you said "as long as the presented characters are clean and drawn in al ikeable style and presented that way" which is not true for your average western design.
>>96428947I don't know. Coincidence? One of those will technically be a Majin, and I like the idea of granting his life wish.>>96428952At more than 700 years old, she probably has a lot more skills than just sneaking. (Although there's literally a sneaky warmachina character) It's the versatility that she can both be either a dagger in the back, or a complete powerhouse, that interests me.
Do Dice Fudged Dark Elves still give +1AP?
>>96428943Don't worry after I fuck her you'll call me daddy.
>>96429026>t. need true love to get any
>>96428971What's this from?
>>96429025No, they're DP, and the dice fudges have to come from somewhere anyway.
>>96428981>tend to be uglySubjective. We should go by a case by case for western due to western artists having higher variance for stylization than eastern artists especially those from China and Japan who while still different art style exist tend to have a more unified look.
>>96429025It gets converted to +1DP, but that basically makes it an alternative to Burn the Past that gives you a free dark elf out of it.
>>96429049Why do they always have hair? I always ask this because I thought the appeal was that they're animals? It's a little jarring seeing something with fur have a full set of hair.
>>96428803When will this be fixed?
>>96429114Is it really important?
>>96429116Yes.
>>96429030You can't true love JNPL. And I don't need her, I'll be your daddy without any perks.
>>96429110The hair makes them look better and less bald. Also the idea that you can't have 'hair' and also 'fur' is really dumb, look at horses. They have a normal fur coat, AND a mane.
>>96429110>Why do they always have hair.Often because hair is a mimic trait that shows a chracter to be more human and eases in comfort. While characters can not have hair, it is easier for humans to identify with characters that have hair and helps raise a level of comfort and approach. Even characters without full hair sets like Mickey, Donald, Goofy have hair that can be combed or modified in a way during animation to show them copying human traits and making it easier to identify with them.It's all part of the anthro form, human form.>I thought the appeal aas that they are aninals.Not for everyone. Some people like kemono and furry characters because they are exotic races in human form and communication. It's no different from running into a green skin martian woman in a suit and fish bowl. It's attractive because its foreign, it can be enjoyed looking at and for some people who are fine with it, it can be arousing due to the sheer alieness but also closeness in human form with some familiar traits.Hair and form that resembles a human = more comforting and accepting because that is how the human brain is wired and what humans seek out when meeting new things.Even if they went full bird or something as humans are accustomed to birds and have a generally positive relation to them, such forms are still positive.Now this starts to break down if you make the creatures break humanoid form too much especially in the face area like reptiles (which can still be accepting to some) or even insectoid like spiders.
>>96429123>t. never touched a woman
>>96428803https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96401172Edited and repost to take Misalliance only once and with Encounters that happen in my Location (new one, same faction, just not floating). Switch father to Pir, remove God Hand*2 and take Missed Shape instead of Meandering Thought. Won't need to spend all those sleepless night as a newborn meditating, just taking exceedingly exhaustive look at stuff.>Patron God : [YMRD]>Male (Dobro)True Love / Untimeskip*2 / Dice Fudge*2 / Extra Mentor>ParentsXaxas (Iotated Ouk) & Pir (Iotated Yest')>RaceDrakonid>LanguagesElven-Northerner / Nymphe / Drakonian / Late Thulean>LocationMountains of Autumn>Inborn GiftsEthereal Beauty / Unburnt Hide / Iron Stomach / Thoroughbreeding / Last Breath / Bitter Sickness / Wereplague / Missed Shape (Left Arm) / Misalliance / Agelessness / Cognitive Speed / Memory Retention / Wisdom / Intelligence / Attentiveness / Spiritual Feel / Caster Intuition / Noble Inclination / All-Glimpse / Icon of Icons / Blazing Seal / Esurient Walk*2 / Wading Flight>MentorAfanasiy Sauromat (Cherv')(Dice Fudge)(On Sick Leave)Kashtanka Of The Orthrung (Shta)(Untimeskip)(Immortal Coils of Intrigue)Rhucuphre-From-Maeve (Ouk)(Untimeskip)(Dice Fudge so she uses a companion slot)(Upward Spiral)>CompanionsAraith (Zelo+Zhivete)(True Love)(Dread The Wyrm)Apantoxia (Iotated Lesser Yus)(A Daring Rescue)>EncountersA Bridge, A Toll, A Troll>YouthProfane Lore / Power Testing / Plotting / Journey of the Self>Quest : Temperantia
>>96428803You know maybe it's weird that I like it so much, but I do like how the Asura view humans that help them/their family so positively that they outright adopt them and heap honors and power on them and such, but the way they lord over non-honored humans pisses the humans in general off so much that the vast majority of people would rather just smash an Asura's stone at first opportunity instead.
>>96429209Tl:DRHumans are attracted to things that have human or close to mammalian faces/forms or something familiar. Deviances do exist.Anthro like kemono and furries often keep many human design traits and often paired with familiar mammals or aves, so humans can like the characters but also can be attracted to the fictional characters in a sexual sense or be okay with it in a hypothetical sense.
>>96429213Well I have your mother JNPL. That's why I'm your father.
>>96428309>>96428756>>96428784Tell me about Echoes. What makes it standout and worth waiting for?
>>96429303Sunk cost fallacy.I think a few years ago I would've talked about the lore, the intricate city descriptions, something about the shark aliens, how its tropes meshed well with my imagination or something - but nowadays those arguments feels dusty.
>>96429249There's a strong argument to be made that Unbound is pragmatically the best immortality option. Lot of people in the world, amongst those whose life situation is sorry enough it probably wouldn't be extraordinarily difficult to get someone to agree. But nevertheless, I don't like the thought of being a spirit as opposed to me.Sacrifice would be a tough moral choice if the life drain were 1:1; year for a day is just nuts, no sale. Even if you set out to only take life from 'bad guys,' you'd have entirely too much personal incentive that way to condemn people.And of course, nobody wants to be decrepit and feeble, so I guess I'm bound to be Bound. Saw some cheesy object picks as e.g. the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy. Presuming that this kind of pick is unsuitable...not sure what's best, actually, probably something made of a particular hard stone, so it wouldn't degrade on its own and would be unlikely to be inadvertently damaged.Past that: I don't really care for spells per se, but more enhancement and addition of abilities, which leads me towards:Level 1:>Perfect Sight. Not much to be said about it, just handy.Level 2: Lot of the good stuff is here.>Perfect Form>Boost Strength>Haste>Steel SkinAll always-on, and make one a modestly superhuman figure. (Of course, what you would practically do with that kind of superhumanity is a bit ambiguous on earth, but it's nice to have. As is the attractiveness.)Level 3: >Fly. I have to presume that the 200km/hr is a lower limit and not an obligation.>RegenerateJust in case, for myself - and being able to heal others of injury and disease would be wonderful, were it possible.(cont)
>>96429340This puts me at 17 points used out of 15, so I'll commit to 10 years as the wizard's assistant. I figure that's a fair compromise.Enchantment: Planeshift. I'm going to assume this is implemented in a reasonably desirable way, i.e., that there is no chance of it leading to the Dimension of Instant Death, that you can readily return to a desired dimension you already know, et cetera. Were that not the case, I'd definitely take Bonus points instead, drop the dogsbody, and take blast, arcane bolt, and...shield, I guess.
>>96429338>but nowadays those arguments feels dusty.You haven't got any content about the CYOA or any new materials or actual stuff to discuss or be excited about.
Why don't we get more unconventional CYOA premises? I swear majority of the shit we see are either pure fantasy or some planeswalking with a dashe of franchise shit. What causes this to happen?
>>96429399Give us a few unconventional premises, idea man.
>>96429406CYOA Maker CYOA
>>96429406Nah, I'm just saying. It feels like a lot of CYOAs sort lift from reach other instead being a little unique.>Inb4 give some unique.Demon Eyes, Urban Unease, Spirit Conscript.Just the little stuff.
>>96429430Thing is, people want their CYOAs to be played, and tropes are safe. Of course you realize this CYOA about being minaturized and lost within a now-gigantic house; but straight up fantasy ala JRPG Traitor or Outer Reincarnation work better.
>>96429399Because that's the setting the creators enjoy
>>96429450>Thing is, people want their CYOAs to be playedOnly of you are Reddit like Tok, Tankista, Aro, Entropist. Real authors only make content they want and share it here only like in the Golden Age
>>96429536>Real authors only make content they want and share it here only like in the Golden AgeGive me names. Naturally, the author must not be on either Discord or Reddit.
>>96428803>Doria is mostly ruled by humans>Tsoshu is mostly ruled by beastmen>Mamet is mostly ruled by beastmen>Poluden is mostly ruled by Morlocks>Orthung is mostly ruled by UrukDoesn't it seem like beastmen are the most successful race?
>>96429665Uruks still rule the Mamet. Rule of hand: If it's the race of the people that are the most likely to kill you (assuming that all possible parties are hostile), that's the race that's in charge.
>>96429686No, the race in charge is the one with the most authority. Uruks only have authority on Orthung by virtue if nobody else living there.
>>96429692So move Empyreans in place for obvious reasons.
>>96429698Empyreans are low population because 0^0 stopped producing low-rank ones. Most of her troops are Morlocks.
>>96429665>Poluden is mostly ruled by MorlocksI doubt it. They're the fodder of her army, true, but there used to be normal Empyreans, and they're all HERE.The Morlocks are probably deployed on Mamet and Tsoshu.
>>96429702NTA but who says they're low population? Charlie uplifted two whole races into becoming Empyrean and they literally cannot die, she just doesn't mass produce them anymore and only make their elites.
>>96429711>>96429710Both of the races she turned into fodder Empyreans were low population, anon.
>>96429702>The race that makes the most local rulers is in charge. (Empyreans rule Poluden)>The race that is the biggest hazard to invaders is in charge. (Uruks rule Mamet)Make up your mind.
>>96429726>The race that makes the most local rulers is in chargeI doubt there are enough Empyreans to be most of Poluden's rulers, is the thing.
>>96429731A few Empyreans per city is trivial though.
>>96429740Those are Empyreans not able to do missions or war for the Ecumene.
>>96429731The powerful yet few being in charge has been a thing in both fiction and reality, Anon.
>>96429742I think you underestimate the impact a doctrine have by having Chosen in the streets, but even then - there is perhaps fifty cities in Poluden. You're going to tell me she can't spare a few hundreds of Empyreans?
>>96429742Nta, but surely there has to be some kind of type suited to administrative tasks, like Pir's template is for the Majin? Nilmatrix is referred to as Archstrategos of the Heavenly Host, implying the military commanders are probably mostly Empyreans.
>>96429750https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/5xy22anpnyl/1/51/Actually a lot more. Doesn't invalidate your point though.
>>96428955No fuck cartoony kemono weeb shit. Fuck furry faggot shit too.Only realistic monster-tier beastmen is kino. They make for fun enemies to fight and slay. SEXY COOMER SHIT IS NOT SATISFYING TO OVERCOME IN GLORIOUS BATTLE!!!
Wasn't the point less who rules the Ecumene and more the fact that beastmen are the most populous race?
>>96429751>Archstrategos of the Heavenly HostCharlie LARPing as the Biblical God makes me kek. She couldn't have gone for a more original theme?
>>96429761>i'm not like the others anons!>sex is le bad!You're not welcomed here.
>>96429760The fuck is that site?
>>96429768Makes imagesites cleaner to read
>>96429768weeb imgurIt's pretty good
If Empyreality is simply a permanent state you add to other races, do Phoenixians both get arm and back wings?
>>96429761Just look at this image for instance. You cannot pull off the same feel with uwu colorful vomit anime art.IT GETS THE BLOOD PUMPING. GOD DAMN IT'S BEEN FAR TOO LONG SINCE IVE EATEN SOME SCREECHING LIZARDMEN ALIVE.>>96429767What the fuck did you say to me you little bitch. You're just one phone call away from being dragged underground and thrown into a cage filled with excrement and naked feral slaves that will tear you apart the moment they sense weakness.
>>96429795>muh hard man cope
>>96429781Be not afraid.
>>96429799It's Tok, he's a Warhammer autist. Don't feed.
>>96428803Are the Immortal Spawn Uruk over in Orthrung where Bal's Living Dungeon is?
>>96429804Tok is too fancy and flamboyant.Plus he values cooming far more than violence and war.
>>96429811>Hates furries despite being a zoophile>Warhammer autist>Browsers CYOA threadsAnon, there's only one person this all fits. Don't be dumb.
>>96429818It just shows your lack of /cyoag/ veterancy if you're confusing me with T*k.
>>96429781Phoenixians are a unique case, in that they get back-arms to pair with their arm-wings
>>96428803where is the rest of the cyoa?
>>96429948https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl
>>96429954thank you
It has been 24hrswhere is ersatzanon?
Anons, who goes better with Rhucupre as a foster mom:1) Fot preaching about his greatness and sucking her money.2) One for those wonderful philosophical arguments in the kitchen.3)?
>>96430265>2) One for those wonderful philosophical arguments in the kitchen.What the fuck? This may be the only way for realistic attempts to redeem her. My knees are moving on their own.
>>96430294more likely that she will corrupt you instead
>>96430346Have more trust in the First, if not in the Eleventh.
>>96428803>Patron:JNPL>Reincarnation:True Love (Simka Citlalzo)Dice Fudge (Simka Citlalzo)Dice Fudge (Laika)Untimeskip (Laika)Untimeskip (Maou)>Inborn Gifts:Etherial BeautyBestial StrengthBulletproof SkinLast BreathLongevityCognitive SpeedWisdomIntelligenceAttentivenessSpiritual FeelMartial InstinctNoble InclinationLook of Chaos (x3)AutoantecedenceDevout SignatureGod Hand (x2)Flowing Gait (x1)Dead Sprint (x1)>Race:Beastfolk>Location:Archaia, The Kingdom of KingdomsMamet Interior>Languages:Bilingual (Everman+Benewhisper)Quietened (Auburn)Tutored(Su'uq) BenewhisperTutored(Maou) Benewhisper>Parents [Death]:Zaya [Izhe]+MisallianceStoyan [Slovo]I don't expect Stoyan to stick around.>Mentors - Encounters [Death]:Laika - Breaking And Entering [Yery]Maou - Remember About Death [Yat]Patrikeyevna - Nothing Ever Happens [Yest' Zhivete]>Companions - Encounters [Death]:??? - Just A Nightmare [Iotated Ouk] (encounter has her speaking btw. I guess she can do it after all)Su'uq - no encounter - no deathZhuchka - On Full Stomach [Dobro]Simka Citlalzo - Wild And Wilder [Pokoy]-The portal leads to an unassuming building in New New York, giving a direct link to communicate with, or travel to/from, the Exarchate.>Death: VediAfter deciding on so many people's death it's only right that my fate should be in another's hand.>Youth>Common Work, Journey of the SelfI may have big plans but it's important to connect with the world and people around you without obsessing over destiny and divine struggle while you can.>Martial Training, Power TestingStill I do need to get ready.>FundamentumI would have taken Humilitas but I really don't like what Charlie is doing. Maybe I should have taken E Nomine then, but in the end I have chosen to focus my efforts on a specific place and country.This isn't to say I won't take the chance to defeat Charlie if I can, I'll certainly keep an eye open for methods.
>>96430436My plans and ambitions in short:>Wage war against the Uruk and Ecumene on the Mamet continent.Easier said than done, I know, but the uruk are not a unified front and they surround most of the Ecumene who are spread across the coast and unable to push inward. Focus on uruk warbands that do not border the Ecumene at first.>Promote a mage-cult with me as a chosen-one figure. Zhuchka does exactly this. Even pushing my influence to human tribes. I'll introduce Elder God worship to the tribes if I can get away with it. >Marry the Queen and lead the Kingdom of Kingdoms back to greatness.True Love helps here but I'll need more to gain legitimacy in the eyes of the tribes. Victory in battle will help, a growing religious group calling me the Messiah can't hurt either.... I do realize Simka could be married by the time I meet her.>Absorb or ally with as many of the human and naga tribes I can in a grand alliance.We all have the same enemies. If they still don't fear the Ecumene we still have reason to unite against the uruks.Maybe, just maybe, Keter can be convinced to move by her daughter, or maybe she could get her act together in another 100 years. She would be very welcome if she wanted to help.I also found out right before typing this that Su'uq was Keter's companion, dunno if that will mean anything.Yeah I don't know how to beat Charlie but her Ecumene can clearly be fought, can be beaten back. I can buy time for the Twelfth and halt her as much as possible. Maybe I'll find a way in 100 years.In 100 years I'll pass every trick, every potential weapon, every useful skill that I can to help the Twelfth defeat 0^0.
Did tankista ever post music or whatever to go with outer reincarnation building?
>>96430470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKR7eZb878Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO5AXrp59CQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hXQ6BaElSchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqBuT7d0DYMusical themes from the Excel file:>Empire of Light and DarkNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quy736EPMWQRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlFyiP1n_GM>Dragon King’s Most Divine RealmNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOAaNJTLI3wRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgdmmKHL05o>The ExarchateNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Z38j7kwtURising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGHtMCVMWkA>City State of DisNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfWmYFzAvlMRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZeQMt0aszs>Kingdom of MalkuthNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZeQQa2TxeIRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Gc_CrVs8o>Old ThroneNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx8X2cziexoRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWJzuC2IMNs>Archaia, Kingdom of KingdomsNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk-wsmyBTpwRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APPgVrNlTDg>Principality of StygiaNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgSCiMKG5EMRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkNsqR5pir8>Pan-Elven Government in ExileNormal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvc0wA5XYaQRising theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpMPqFiC5So>The EcumeneFinal theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltR6Cbua_T8
>SRTR sockpuppets your mentors as she needs to fill the roles of fate>True love the mentorsTell me why it wouldn't work
>>96430514SRTR isn't on the job. You're accidentally seducing YMRD.
>>96428803Updating my solo build:>NameThe Black Messiah>Patron God[JNPL]>GenderMale>BoonsAdoptionExtra Companion x1>Parentage[JNPL] (Mother)"One" (Father)>RaceTumen>LanguagesEvermanDrakonian>LocationCity State of Dis (Dis)>Inborn GiftsBitter SicknessWereplague (Eagle)WisdomIntelligenceAttentivenessSpiritual FeelCaster IntuitionNoble InclinationInner Vision x2Icon of IconsDevout SignatureGod-Hand x2Kneeling Twilight x2>MentorsThe KeterJdan Ordo-DorianPukluxun
>>96430519YMRD had a listed immunity to True Love, SRTR doesn't.
>>96430519Even better
>>96430522>CompanionsSavmak???OmegaGunter Lilim (Evdokia, Dobrava, & Nilmatrix)>EncountersA Bridge, A Toll, A Troll (Me)On Sick Leave & Crown into the Gutter [for Hladvig Tehom] (The Keter)Things That Shouldn't Be (Jdan)A Calm and A Storm (Pukluxun)One Against All (Savmak)Sage of a Thousand and One Treasures (???)Let the Purgation Begin (Omega)>DeathMe (Buki)The Keter (Dobro - Zhivete)Jdan (Glagoli)Pukluxun (Shta)Savmak (Greater Yus)??? (Iotated Ouk)Omega (Ot)Gunter Lilim (Zelo)>YouthTheologyPower TestingPlottingJourney of the Self>QuestE NomineA messianic figure that centers around the formation of my lesser godhood, my innate connection to a dead goddess, and reflection of my own Meaning and those of others. Will go around helping people, revitalizing hope and belief in the Elder Gods and rallying the fight against 0^0, oppose the Ecumene however I can (my choices say that enough), but my end-goal is ultimately to find a way to revive my Mother and/or confront the Usurper using the secret knowledge Pukluxun has long carried with her. Whether or not Buki means facing the Master-in-White or the one whose red blood stains us all, I can only pray for a life well lived regardless.
>>96430524Technically it says she can't be targeted, not that she's immune. JNPL is going to ship her friends with Anon and there is nothing they can do about it.
So what are anon's musical themes?
>>96430514How this goes is that srtr cuts a hole in the sockpuppet and then gives you sockpuppet handjob-blowjobs
>>96430536https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c4hnA8jXwo&t=11s
>>96430526>Messiah build>no Exarchate royal claim >no Zhuchkamediocre
>>96430536https://youtu.be/bMfvZmhqW0A
>>96427400And, since there is a part 2, since every CYOA needs a half-assed waifu page, I'll pop it on here for anyone that cares.>Agri World>Oceanic>Resource Surplus>Astropathic Relay>Ork InfestationWelcome to The Water World! It's actually called Auqeus II, but everyone knows it as The Water World. That's all we've got going for us, really. The planet's surface is 99.1% water, of a moderate salinity.Population of 20,000, the planet also hosts a skeleton crew of Tech-Priest rejects that run a desalination plant for mass conveyors that need fresh water, but most ships just take the salt water, since salt is a pretty useful commodity, too.Unfortunately, getting 60 billion liters of water into space takes quite a while, so there's a bit of a queue, and it's not nearly as profitable as you'd expect. We service three Universe-class Mass Conveyors a month, roughly. A lot of smaller ships pop by for a top-up of their supplies.Losing 200 billions of liters of your planet's water, permanently, monthly sounds like a lot.But Auqeus II has a LOT of water. We could keep up that rate for roughly 150,000 more years. Who knows, by then, we might have enough landmass to support a larger population!Oh, we also have an Astropathic Relay up on a station in orbit. I guess segmentum command needed some way of getting messages to the rest of the planets on the fringe. We are a bit of a way in the boonies, which also doesn't help traffic.Didn't help us avoid the damned Orks, though. They fell from the skies to take over the world about 100 years ago, before my time. They all drowned, obviously. Roks don't float, and they didn't have much of a chance of hitting land. The old locals thought the problem solved itself, but apparently a few stragglers made their way to a tiny island chain that was thought was too small for a settlement.They're throwing spears at each other now, from what I've heard. Savage brutes...
>>96428803What are the Outsider Relics mentioned throughout the cyoa? I caught the Savmak Sword, Burelom (drow pirate companion), and Pukluxun's rifle (possibly belonging to Vtorusha?). Is there any others that I missed?
>>96430671>BurelomThat's subtly indicated to be a chainsaw BTW.
>>96430635>Exarchate royal claimI'm an Outsider, it's a given. Plus I'm not planning to directly rule it anyway, just throw my weight around with the Heterodoxy and make sure they side with the Dorians. If necessary, Savmak's own claim is right there.>ZhuchkaAnd compete with the Elder God purists and Heterodoxy on their doctrines? They're called "mage-cults" for a reason. Again, I'd rather build on my heritage as the literal son of a goddess on a continent that already know/venerate her, dead she may be.
>>96428803Keter trickers have to pay the price of irreparable sexual trauma. Let's look at the facts, you decided to be raised by an anon, who knows that you're really an adult inside a child's body, with a child's brain that's back in its formative years where it's all plastic and corruptible. This wouldn't be a problem if you reverse adopted her for sportmanslike reasons, but unfortunately you turned her into a DP faucet, you know what a point faucet is? A drawback. You decided to buy an unlisted easter egg drawback worth 20 points when blindness and complete incapacitation are 15 points. You are hosed, you are completely nonfunctional as a human being and now you're trying to burden everyone else for committing the non-crime of being too cool on a certain year.
>>96430671The instrument Alisa uses.
>>96430700what the fuck are you talking about
>>96430666>"Welcome to The Water World!" says SatanNo thanks I am wise to your tricks and I'm not coming
>>96430700So if you pick Vedi and learn all languages you can force the 12th Outsider to take a lethal trap option?
>>96430666As an additional issue, the Orks did find something a while ago...See, I came here with a fleet, ready to stop the entire Ork invasion, which should have been the size for major concern. Top brass noticed they all effectively drowned themselves, had a laugh, but wanted a regiment to monitor the planet, and mine was selected.This posed a problem. You can't drop ten thousand soldiers onto a planet with a population of (at the time) nineteen thousand, and expect there to be enough food and space for everyone! Orders were orders, so we needed to go down there.Then the colonel, Emperor bless him, said the orders we got didn't say we needed the WHOLE regiment.>Grab some idiots that can't shoot straight and send them down to watch the greenies!>And someone to keep them out of trouble!That's how ol' Sergeant Ayy Nons got promoted to Captain A. Nons and got the absolute scummiest 70 soldiers from the 404th Infantry Co.Long story short, I became governor when the previous one decided to try and summon some kind of tentacled warp monster.My boys might not be accurate, but frag missiles don't need to be direct hits!ANYWAY, the Orks!They were mining for something, probably metals, and struck some kind of underground structure made of porcelain-white-bone sort of stuff. As Orks tend to do, they tried weaponizing it.Me and the lads headed out there to nip the problem in the ass, when hundreds of Eldar popped out of the thing and started doing our job for us.Outnumbered, I ordered my boys to only shoot the Orks, or at least miss in their general direction.The Eldar weren't happy we were on a planet now connected to a 'webway.' Apparently this planet used to have a lot less water 50 million years ago, and the Orks found the only entrance that worked and wasn't under the sea. Once mined, Eldar can now can come and go as they please.Now we have Eldar watching from that island chain, telling us to sell more water so they can uncover 'Croneworld Alt'lentes'
>>96430708The Keter Trick has to mean something. Take the Gunter-Dobrava-Nilmatrix Trick. It's "Dobrava uses her certain fate to setup causality so as to resolve Shadow of God into the best possible outcome." Uruk Slot Spam, "The 11th Outsider could have had more people to aid him, but he didn't, and facing all those Uruks on his own means he must be more powerful than normal." Benewhisper and Simplified Duergar gives you bonuses on empty slots because the first got its letters from a certain language used by the True Dragons, and I got nothing on the second besides the world is old, the mountain's grey.The Keter Language Trick implies that, for whatever reason, the fate that Keter teaches you all of her languages isn't guaranteed. Normally, you would've been effectively taught everything. So, what exactly does Fate arrange so Keter doesn't teach you all of her languages?
>>96430730The problem being, we're out on the ass-end of the eastern segmentum. Hell, we didn't even arrive to fight off an invasion for a damned century!And the Eldar keep bugging me to sell more water, somehow...>Mon'keigh! How has your race not cannibalized the single decent world in the galaxy that we need them to exploit all the resources from?>Can't you all, at least, fail in ways that matter!?Yeah, that'd be the seer C'irais. The fact that I called her "Seer Seer Eyes" for a week is still something she's upset about, but damned if it wasn't funny watching her be upset.To her great chagrin, the Eldar can't get rid of all this water by themselves. While they have some fancy tech, not much of it was designed for the task of diving down under tens of kilometers of water and dealing with that pressure, much less excavating under it.So, they're playing the long game. The very, very long game.They live for pretty much forever, allegedly, so long as nothing kills them, so they're just going to wait for humans to harvest the fifty million years worth of icy asteroids that hit Auqeus II since they left.This puts us in a very strange position - they hate that we're here, but they need us to be here. Now they're just claiming half the islands in that chain while trying to kill the Orks on the other half of the chain. Apparently even Eldar tech can't get rid of all the Ork spores, forever. They torched the islands, once, and apparently missed just one spot, since next year those little gretchin' fellas were back.I asked if they wanted to wait another 100 years for the Imperium to come and show them how to REALLY scorch the earth, but they declined. That's fair, I s'pose.So, welcome to Auqeus II, which is no longer just The Water World. We're the Ork world, Eldar world, the crone world, the fringe world, the relay world, and also a water world on top of all that.Speaking of, can I interest you in a discount on megatonnes of water? Buy two, get one free!
>Paxxia only has Dragon Transformation, Magician’s Hand and Evil Eye, she doesn’t even have Martial Instinct>She’s explicitly one of the best and most powerful fighters alive, whether or not she’s in dragon formMaybe gifts aren’t as important as everyone thinks.
Unbegotten Dreamer>Patron God SRTR>Perks Outer Tide, Halfbreed, Adoption x2, Dice Fudge (Rhucupre), Untimeskip(Dirk), Extra Mentor.>Parents Mother:Phershepa-from-Erebus (Her'v'); Father: Aat. Adopted: Rhucupre (Yat); One.>Race Majin/Morganic>Languages Everman, Elven-Northerner(Dice Fudge), High Elven, Late Thulean, Drakonian (Quitened), Tutored Everman x1 (Dirk).>Location City State of Dis>Gifts Warmachina Mounting, Look of Chaos, Crooked Caress, Devout Signature, Daemonhost, Intelligence, Cognitive Speed, Wisdom.Bitter Sickness, Wereplague, Memory Retention, Spiritual Feel, Caster Intuition, Attentiveness, Inner Vision x2, Azure Wreath,Ethereal Beauty, Multiocular O, Look of Chaos x1, Starsight x1, Eye for Shadows x1.Dream Passage x3, Autoantecendence (Dream Passage) - growing control over the dream the longer I stay there. Since it costs 6 points while All-Glimpse is 5 I find it fitting.>Mentors Eirina, Dirk(Upunth,Lyndis), Ielziaseh.>Companions Mocnaeth, Baf, Jarnigit.>Encounters A Bridge, A Toll, A TrollLet The Purgation Begin - Ielziaseh (Tsy)No Way, Highwayman - JarnigitBreaking and Entering - Mocnaeth (Iotated Greater Yus)Upward Spiral - Baf (Greater Yus)Remember About Death - Eirina (Glagoli - Zhivete)Things That Shouldn't be - Dirk (Shta)Crown Into the Gutter (Jdan) - Ielziaseh.Remember the Demon - Eirina.>LetterKako>Youth Magical Training, Pandaemonium, Daemonhunt, Power Testing.>Quest Vanitas
Rhucupre has a point, it is just her exact implementation of it that is likely to bring the worst kind of apocalypse. But breaking the barrier between dream and reality, isn't it basically what Elder Gods want? The dreams are part of divinity after all. I just need to purify those that leaked out into the world a bit.So, after a childhood filled with conversations about the nature of reality (pairing up One and Rhucupre is the best) I am going for the source of corruption - that damn chair. Other may handle Charlie by themselves, I am shutting down the nightmare factory or at least repurposing it for my own ends. Get rid of Jdan, impersonate him so other Outsiders don't go after me and do a few rounds of aborted futures, then go back to the beginning and render it safe. No Vtorusha this time.Next I just ditch the throne and venture into the Underground with my companions to find the Fifth grave, study nightmare and work on collapsing reality the proper way.And all this with SRTR's support, she told so herself!
No one has ever taken Greatriding Spurs.
Also, Bitter Sickness is basically free points with Eternal Curse. It can't kill you and you can't feel the changes to your body, so the only remaining effect is dark moods.Take up meditation or something and you'll be fine.
>>96430861Well to be fair, Martial Instinct description itself tells you it only gives a big headstart on someone starting from scratch. Meaning they can still catch up with enough effort and training.Also where are Paxxia's Inborn Gifts mentioned?
>>96430875Its a meh gift, it would be more popular if didn't take a up leg slot.
>>96430908Nowhere, anon's just guessing because Erginter's genes are trash and only Pantorai has meaningful gifts to inherit. Unless someone in his family tree had thoroughbreeding.
>>96430861Everyone also takes Blazhko seriously even though he's a genetic underdog.
>>96430861Mentors are just as important as gifts.
>>96430942Gifts can be powerful or just be gimmicks, so can the skills mentors teach you. While powerful gifts can give you a massive advantage, the most powerful things in OR are accomplished through skill and knowledge.
>>96430940Blazhko is for turning into a powerlich with all the 4 and 5 point mentors.
Haven't seen this pointed out, but I am almost certain this peculiar character from the Orthrung civil wars was Rhucupre, intentionally placing The Firstborn Empire on the course to collapse.
>>96430954It's a shame we can't give Rhucuphre Pokoy.It would be immensely funny.
>>96430908She can’t have any gifts more than you would get from choosing her parents. In theory she might not have Evil Eye or Magician’s Hand
>>96430966They can appear randomly, so she can have some nice things of her own.Maybe even unique ones, if she is very lucky.
>>96430966Well then she must built different, or had some op mentors.
>>96430979>Genetic trash getting carried by mentorsLike mother like daughter
Lol, just realized that the only Outsider who completely "earned" their power according to Charlie's hypocritical standards is Erginter. She missed out on getting mogged by Erginter so she's trying to influence the 11th into filling in for her.
>>96430992Erginter was carried by her stolen gifts not mentors. Her jobbing to Aat despite that proves that having lots of inborn gifts don't amount to shit if their user is a retard.
>>96431006Erm, you didn't earn those mentors.
>>96431006Nah, she claims even choosing Mentors is cheating
>>96431017I'm pretty sure that only applies to Untimeskiped mentors. Her stance on traditional mentorship seems pretty ambivalent.
I’m still not a huge fan of OR’s languages. So many people end up with parties where half the members can’t even talk to each other.
>>96431017>Keeps going on about you needing to earn your power>Says Mentors are unearned>Says nothing about Inborn Gifts, so long as they aren't inherited from your parentsFrom this, we can conclude that only Inborn Gift merchants who took JNPL as their mother are real strugglers. Everyone else is a nepo baby.
Which available race would best blend in inside the Ecumene?I can't exactly blend in as an eldar.
>>96431028>You haven’t earned this knowledge
>>96431010and she could steal those gifts because of her mentors.
>>96431034Given time and camaraderie, they'll cross the gaps.
>>96431041Just take Rhucuphre
>>96429609Italics, ironically.
>>96431041Dwarf
>>96431034It's also ridiculous how many long lived people only know 1 or 2 languages. These same people are allegedly masterminds capable of infiltrating and manipulating multiple countries over centuries, yet they only know how to speak 1 dead language. Still not sure how Nilmatrix managed to infiltrate anything when she only knows Entramithraic, a language almost no one on Doria even speaks.
>>96431049I'm already taking both her and Ielziaseh but I want to go all in. Can't exactly assume I'm going to hide perfectly every time.
>>96431034Just do the bilingual Everman exploit and teach every mentor and companion everman with 0 cost.
>>96431055Tutored languages don't satisfy language bonus requirements.
>>96431041either Dwarf or Beastman.
>>96431053It might not literally mean that they don't know other languages;you should probably consider the languages-known-by-contact a gamey abstraction similar to how "parent" slot includes Uruk and JNPL.
>>96431017Considering she took all of this stuff herself like any other outsider, it kinda sounds like self loathing on her part, like she is not only critiquing you, but herself too for her past choices and failures. I guess when the system says she hates everyone it probably includes herself, maybe she even hates herself the most of everyone.
>>96431062If they knew other languages you should be able to recruit them with those languages too
>>96431034Yeah, same problem with locations, most have only one or two which is too few IMO. Like Serebryanka's description places her in Arcadia, but you can't even pick Arcadia with her language (Everman).
>>96431066>I guess when the system says she hates everyone it probably includes herself, maybe she even hates herself the most of everyone.She does, almost every reason she has for that hate is her own fault and a part of her knows that.
>>96431059damn you're right, well at least Everman is dirt cheap even without the bonus.
It’s funny to think that the entire current plot could have been avoided if Charlotte had just picked Wisdom at character creation.
>>96431068You might, in your regular adventures, by speaking to them normally.But "recruiting" someone within the Outsider System is a gamey mechanic. It's just like how, you know English (or else you couldn't be reading this post), but unless you also learn Salian (which is the same as English) you can't recruit Salian-speakers.
>>96429209god, love the japs
>>96431079Wisdom is a JNPL psyop
>>96431062It’s hard to accept this interpretation when you’re also choosing parents and getting languages from them. The parents don’t have other languages that they know but they won’t teach you. The languages listed are the languages they know.
>>96430671Alisa's electric gitar
>>96431041Any human and some eye contacts.
>>96431091How are things going with your daughter, Charlie?
>>96431095>The parents don’t have other languages that they know but they won’t teach you.They could know other languages, and they could teach those to you as well.If you know a language in the context of the cyoa, it just means a fate guarantee that you'll learn it, that's all. It's not a guarantee that you don't learn anything else.
>>96430700>see a tiddy as a kid>Your mind crumbles>Your eyes shatter>You become wreck of a man>Soon you collapse in on yourself like a blackhole and everything within the doria continent is fucking gonecome on now anon
>>96431091All those outsiders who took wisdom are dead or worse than dead, must be JNPL psyop so you would want to die
>>96431119>>see a tiddy as a kid>>Your mind crumbles>>Your eyes shatter>>You become wreck of a manHow'd you guess anon's backstory?
>>96431038JPNL and Uruks
>>96431106Just peachy, Khiered her a moment ago
>>96431124All-Glimpse
>>96430875I updated one of my old builds to have it twice since one was inherited and the extra points allowed me to make something else. Having an army of beats by my side seems like a great strategy for it. I would post it but I already made a new build and no point in flooding the thread with them.nvapa
>>96431162You awake as a baby and take a look at your mom. You see a truly horrible fate that she's cooking for you. There is no limit to malice of beastfolk/empyrean women. A second Dirk Yesod comes into the world. Now with Outsider powers.
>>96431185>Keter taking care of a childOut of character.
>>96431066Liberta shows how miserable and bitter she is. She really was screwed by fate on occasions and she does admit a few of her faults, but she has already done so much that she feels she cannot stop now. Denial and spite are the only things stopping her from killing herself plus her unhealthy desire to see the Earth again.
>>96431228who said anything about taking care of the child, just turn them into a undead slave and be done with it
>>96431228>be Keter>be depressed af Keter Catheter>it's a day ending in y (as an Outsider you hold to proud Outsider weekday names) so you're drinking yourself to stupor, normal beat>your baby is crying>fucking baby fuckinh shitter stop making noises>you feed the baby up with alcohol till it develops brain problems>problem solved>justketerthings.jpg
>>96429399it depends a lot on what you consider to be an unconventional premise, but if you mean about very original/wacky settings then that's because its very difficult to explain everything about an entirely new world that doesn't involve tons of lore dumping.Meanwhile if you set it in a somewhat generic setting then you only need to explain the gimmick that makes it unique
>>96431247>By fateShe’s the one who made dumb choices for her parents without thinking it through.
>>96431228Keter language trick is canon. She just can't be bothered to teach a kid to be fluent in 10+ of them.
>>96431252>On the few occasions she gets happy from her drinking, she start telling you stories about how she heroically jumped into Pantorai's back and stabbed him>A few seconds later she grows somber and starts openly crying for her dead teammates and shifting between cursing Thaumiel and saying how much she misses her>This repeats at least twice per weekWhat a great reincarnation experience.Also, why did Keter target Pantorai in the first place? Sure he was a despotic tyrant with mad scientist ideas but he wasn't a direct threat to her.
>>96431290Perhaps she had some selfless heroism in her.
>>96431290It is always morally correct to kill anyone who voluntarily associates with Erginter.
>>96431228Most of them also take One, right? So they take Keter for points and One to actually raise them.
>>96431302Keter have sex with you as soon as possible. You are now an adult. One turns to dust. Keter's hands are not tied anymore.
>>96430700One will tard wrangle Keter
>>96431309>implying the GOAT would let Keter rape a child on his watch
>>96431316it's not rape if both are willing
>>96431290Might have taken Crown into the Gutter to get a mentor as a companionMaybe he had something she wanted to steal
>>96428803>He`el (Buki)>Patron God[SRTR]>BoonsAdoption x2HalfbreedExtra CompanionDice Fudge x2 Zu'us, SeoUntimeskip x2 Pukluxun, KashtankaOuter Tide>ParentsMaiosara Yesod (Greater Yus)Gramrouth, syn Yordoucka (On)Adopted by Zu'us (Lesser Yus)Seo (Zemlya Glagoli)>RaceSouthlander/Dwarf>LanguagesBenewhisperEvermanQuitened - Sylphid, Drakonian, Late Thulian, Simplified DuergerTutored Everman: Self, Kashtanka, Su'uq >LocationMametMamet Interior>Inborn Gifts-MaladyBitter SicknessWereplagueMisalliance:MotherMeandering Thought-GiftsOverenduranceCaster IntuitionEnochian BrandSpiritual FeelStigmataIcon of Icons Grey Wandering x3 All-Glimpse Autoantecedence God Hand x2Bestial Strength Thoroughbreeding Unburnt Hide Boiling Blood Bulletproof Skin Last Breath >MentorsTenyota (Iotated Ouk) Kashtanka (Shta) Pukluxun (Iotated Lesser Yus) >CompanionsGunter Lilim (Zelo)-Dobrava (Lyudi)A Calm and A StormOn The EdgeShadow of God-Nilmatrix-Evdokia (Yee Fiert)Zuchka (Iotated Az) Polkan (Yer`) Su'uq (Used Fiert?)??? (Zhivete Iotated Greater Yus) >EncountersOn Full Stomach (Tenyota)Breaking and Entering (Kashtanka) (Midday Point)Just a Nightmare (Pukluxun)A Bridge, A Toll, A TrollWild and Wilder (Zuchka)Hidden Amidst the Clouds (Polkan)Remember about Death (???)>YouthMartial TrainingMagical TrainingPower TestingTreasure Hunting>QuestVanitas
>>96431228Since Narrative is the force of nature which can be harvested to achieve desired results and Keter with her Hero's journey currently at her lowest moment, you are putting her in the redemption arc/forcing her to confront her life choices and allowing her to overcome them.
>>96431341Erginter 2.0Going to focus on training myself to master my gifts before using Tenyota’s special for all of my gifts and then Fiert to Evidokia. At that point she will have Nilmatrix in her afterlife along with Dobrava and Gunter after their climatic battle. Rather than inhabit my useless body she will be reborn instead. Going to fully lean into being a bastard who collects the strongest people out there into my Afterlife. Seo’s unique necromancy should have some interesting interactions with it. With the Help of Zuchka and Pukluxun, I will have a mage cult spreading faith in me to power my Icon of Icons, with it being taught to adherents to further instill faith in me along with my God Hand Blessings.My main goal is to unify Mamet under non-Ecumene rule again with myself as the new religious head. Strengthening myself with ritual sacrifice of Ecumene soldiers and using my Evidokia powers to further use them in death. For my fellow Tide members I will be mostly opportunistic. If there are stupid ones, or ones that follow 0^0 I will try to kill and absorb them. The more relaxed or ones against 0^0 are fine until she is dealt with.
Didn't expect Pukluxun to end up being so popular
>>96431347>Erginter 2.0kill it with fire, wait shit unburnt hide uhhh, kill it with magic?
>>96431371no need to do anything, old age will take of xer for us
>>96431362>hey, what if you were your own source of meaning?In a narrativistic world, this is one of the strongest options.
Can I inherit stigmata if SRTR isn't my patron?
>>96431362Any /cyoag/ poster is already halfway deep into True Drakonic Solipsism.
>>96431405Bitch fierted a pixie.
>>96431410READ NIGGA
>>96431405Oh yeah, they also have meandering thought and mage training which means the problem honestly takes care of itself.
>>96431414Evdokia is a Northerner.
>>96431418That tells me nothing. It's literally stated in the same fucking paragraph that the outsider system is an exception. It can be inherited, great, and I can buy it if SRTR is my patron but that isn't what I'm asking.
>>96431433He says that Su'uq also took the fiert, so you have told me that he has forsaken JNPL's blessings.
>>96431438It literally tells you you can. Hell there is a parent with stigmata.
>>96431444I honestly don't know if it should be Buki or Fiert.Fiert says the fate for both is destroyed after taking effect and Aat's page has pic related so I just assumed it was an innert Fiert for the letter.
>>96431410I'd say yes. For example, if you have JNPL as a patron but your mother is Ratha, you get the Stigmata anyway.
>>96431079>wasting 2 APJust get some parents/mentors with wisdom
>>96431453Yes, obviously I know that there is a parent that could let you inherit it since I'm asking about inheriting it.It literally says "[SRTR] patron God only"I guess a normal child who inherited it wouldn't be born a worshiper of SRTR either so I was leaning yes, but it's the only inborn gift with a patron requirement so I just wanted some clarification/a second opinion.
>>96431471Do you think children are born worshiping SRTR?
What’s the best strategy once you are, you know, in the world? You can’t die until you resolve all your other fates, right?
>>96431474Dunno i will figure things out
>>96431474It depends on your self-appointed goal.
>>96431474Breeding Daemonhost ubermensch Majin into supremacy.
>>96431482Ameno>>96431487Lame
>>96431489>AmenoAnother variable is added - are you within a Tide?If so, there a non-zero chance you'll have to fight off the others once your goal becomes evident. Better start preparing for the confrontation.Otherwise it's as usual. Train your powers, dodge Nilmatrix, find a way to destroy the Ecumene, have fun.>You can’t die until you resolve all your other fates, right?No, but you can be kept in a cage, or tortured, or worse. Don't mistake Fate for invincibility or you'll end up like Keter.
>>96431472How did you read that post and come away thinking I do?Stigmata is the only inborn gift with a patron requirement so I have no other examples to compare to.There are gifts with race requirements that lock you out if you take a different race. Is it so far fetched that a gift with a God requirement would lock you out if you take a different God?
>>96431516NTA but you have reading comprehension issues unlike me (smart!) so you lose the argument.
>flyingLame as fuck. I’m gonna do this.
>>96431522But this isn't an argument!All I did was ask a short question, followed by Anon declaring me a nigger.
>>96431542It is now, just as you're a double nigger. I'm so glad to be a part of the better cyoag community!
Imagine taking Stigmata so every night an evil god talks you into killing 0^0. [SRTR] likes to be personally involved, customly creating terrifying tragedies, awful horror stories,...
>>96431554Yeah but in your case it’s more likely to be on the heroic side, considering that she needs (you) to help her
>>96431559That's until you start winning
>>96431554>evil godSRTR is nice and my mom.
>>96431554>every nightAll-Glimpse to never sleep.
>>96431554>Come on anon! Go get her!Ah yes, truly terrifying
>>96431565She indirectly caused everyone wrong except for the True Dragons, and I only defend her from that because they're misotheists.
>>96431574But if you don't agree to be a part of her heroic tale, she will make you a part of her terrifying tragedy.
>>96431580The Elder Gods are all good. Stop this Ecumene propaganda.
>>96431574>Go get 'em, champ!
>>96431594They chose their own adventures. Not SRTR's fault.
>>96428803Greater Yus is the best death choice if you're currently not happy with yourself as a person.
>>96431554>Anon! Anon! I know how we are gonna siege that Ecumene fortress! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iToRAfA-V0sYeah very evil
>>96431594who the fuck is this Katya bitch?
>>96431602Read the companions.
>>96431602Keter. You are reading her drinking her regrets away
>>96431594Ratha of the Orthrung
>>96431605Keter is NOT a wine mom.
>>96431594People say Sarmat didn't do much but he personally got rid of all the Witch Kings and demon lord's in the area who could have turned into proto Inga Yesod if left unchecked.
>>96431594There is nothing wrong with being Tuzik. Humility is still a virtue.
>>96431599>siege of Archaia, sixth year of the 11th's life
>>96431618Anyone who says Sarmat didn't do much is taking a minimalist view of his choices as they were at that moment and discounting their trajectories, yeah.
>>96431626https://youtu.be/iToRAfA-V0s?t=50
>>96431594what happened to savmak and why is he such a jobber?
>>96431618I don't think anyone said that? The most I've heard said is that he's the cause of every following Outsider being worse because he solved too many plots.
>>96431626>siege of Archaia>Eleventh is too young to participate UNLESS he's an Urukfuck this shit
>>96431642>>Eleventh is too young to participateskill issue
>>96431638See the companion of the same name
>>96431618>People say Sarmat didn't do muchNo one actually believes this, right? Tun alone was a big fucking deal.
>>96431642>He didn't pull a One and start heroing as a 1 year oldngmi
>>96431642Old enough to walk, old enough for fights.Old enough to speak, old enough for intrigues.
>>96431638>why is he such a jobber?He thought he could avoid fate instead of confronting it
>>96431638Bro picked Lyudi and Zemlya.
>>96431618https://youtube.com/watch?v=kAHNiJ9T2-MSarmat making his choices 400 years ago, colourised.
>>96431642Well, the description makes it sound like a quick surprise sort of thing. You'll have time for more flashy heroics against the inevitable Ecumene counterattack.
>>96431639>The most I've heard said is that he's the cause of every following Outsider being worse because he solved too many plots.This is a fair take honestly.
>>96431642Go to Bastionaria.
>>96431590throw of the yoke of godly tyranny bring liberty to the people
>>96431655Honestly, he played himself hard by picking Zemlya, it ensured that he had to die and become an undead after his Lyudi happened. He might have been able to survive the betrayal if not for that.
>>96431638Savmak is one of the easiest ways to cheat death. Just take Iotated Greater Yus and take his sword. You are stronger than Keter already.
>>96431638He led the equivalent of the Mongol horde and conquered the continent by himself while stopping the Old Throne retards from filling the world with nightmare. He was simply too paranoid for his own good.
>>96431676Reminder that Erginter got her hands on the sword and its gifts in addition to all the ones she had harvested, and Xian STILL fought her to a draw with nothing but Daemonhost.
How does the Savmak sword even work?The girl that uses it has all glimpse, which is supposed to overwrite eye gifts. But most of Savmak's gifts are eye gifts.
>>96431688Xian was probably summoning his templates faster than she could move.
Is enochian brand a trap?How do you avoid vocalizing god script in your head?
>>96431594Now that I think about it, Katya was the only true failure outsider. She has no God backing her and her Charlie patronage sure went down the drain when she moved against her, her heroic tales are second hand at best and the only truly good one was stopping the lich leader from coming back, and her whole legacy is being the cause a continent was nuked and having gotten several countries to hate her. If you don't do anything about it she will probably go down in history as The Shameful one.
>>96431688Xian fought True Dragons for centuries.True Dragon wannabes like Erginter (and Charlie if he met her or Keter had she succeeded in Ameno instead of being humbled) are his prey of choice.
>>96431688Daemonhost can easily be one of the strongest Gifts if you're good enough to make or find high-quality templates. Up there with Icon of Icons with a Yphont build or All-Glimpse.
>>96431700maybe the sword grows a eyeball or maybe it already has one
>>96430875This person took it 3 timeshttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899It wasn't even a part of her strategy
>>96431704She's only had 100 years, give her a break
>>96431702Attentiveness + kneeling twilight
>>96431719I bet she's great at riding beastmen
>>96431719>Having autocedence and not detailing your special upgrade.This shouldn't be the norm.
>>96431722>AttentivenessLiterally the only way to make Enochian Brand work, even if you're not dumb enough to take it with Meandering Thoughts you're still one mistake away from killing yourself.
>>96431704We know Outsider System changes from Outsider to Outsider. It is quite possible JNPL only gets better and stronger at manipulating it while Katya got shit picks with trap options because Charlie was at her peak during that time.
Is phantom wingspan mandatory for dragonkin/pixiejust seems super inconvenient to have to deal with your wings getting in the way of everything.
>>96431702Just go pixie.
>>96429665Actually the most populous race in the Ecumene are Asuras.
>>96431702Get that dwarf mentor that'll beat you until you learn how to focus properly and never fuck up
>>96431735It's more likely the opposite, Charlotte was blindsided by there being a new Outsider.
>>96431704She managed to grab a really good cure of death (Empyreality) and she already made it to 100yo. In my eyes, Keter is a bigger success than Tuzik (dead in 79 years) or Sarmat (dead in 73 years) or Erginter (dead in 99 years).
>>96431741I don't want to be JAR'ed.
Is the Upunth trance the strongest fighting ability you can get?
>>96431744>Race that turns into or possesses inanimate objectsJust start breaking shit. Demolition everything.
>>96431720Vtorusha only took fifty years to turn the world into a scifi setting
>>96431750Sarmat turning down immortality is rartedIt's not like it's a shitty gimped immortality where you'll have to suffer the heat death of the universe or something
>>96412603huh, the spider doesn't have dead sprint
>>96431759The more times you die the closer you are to ascending to godhood
>>96431759he got brainwashed by the JNPL death embrace propaganda
>>96431756Send the Uruks in.
>>96431758If we compare everyone to Vtorusha, only 3 Outsiders end up not being massive failures
>>96431759Yeah, and it goes directly against his political project. Sarmat turning down unagingness is similar to Yphont turning down the crown of her Dark Elf / Drow nation.
>>96431758>her best idea was muh rods from god I could do better
>>96431762it's right after jet kick
>>96431775I don't blame turning down the crown. Ruling a nation is a pain in the ass, I just want to do whatever I want when I want and not care about others. Why yes Tuzik is my favorite how did you guess?
>>96431784You're right, I can't read
>>96431775I'd prefer it that way honestly. Make them look less like optimized autists with no personality.
>>96431779Her best idea was her crazy machina that has 0^0, the god, shitting herself in fear of facing.
>>96431771Leave the Ecumene to me
Does panarmament override warmachina mounting?
>>96431739Skill issue.
>Panarmament>if taken twice you will be able to reproduce a phantom version of any weapon or tool you've ever held in your handsAs it's written, this means you can summon any tool or weapon you've ever held on earth.
I would do pilgrimage to Yphont's sepulcher.
>>96431820I think one of the Dwarf builds is all about Yphont's and her work too.But he started from Stygia itself, near the tomb. What's your starting point? How are you getting there?Why are you going there in the first place?
>>96431817I touched a rocket once does that count
Is it possible to get Yphont back?
>>96431817Different body
>>96431817>they simply fail to work because the required physical framework doesn't existdud
>>96431845Nah, she reincarnated already. Maybe if you can somehow grab her soul while it's reincarnating you could do something?
>>96431750It's not about how many years you live but what you do with them. Imagine that Keter lives for another 400 years as a drunk bum reminiscing the good old days, does that mean she's more successful than Vtorusha, Savmak or Yphont?All the others had full lives and left a lasting legacy, even those with less than ideal fates. Even Tuzik is was the honored ancestor of Kashtanka's family and as [JNPL] says, The One who did Nothing is not meant to have negative implications.
>>96431860Yes it does.
>>96431860Holy cope. The only thing that matters is living if you die you're nothing.
>>96431828NTA, but I was also going to investigate it as Unbegotten to find out how exactly it repels Nightmare and study engravings on the walls.Even if I start in Did I should be good, as long as he doesn't tear the place down.
>the number of years are all that mattersAverage tsifra automaton
>>96431860You should know better than to argue with the people who are obsessed with lifespan. In a setting with confirmed reincarnation, no less.
>>96431860I was mostly unseriousThat said,>and left a lasting legacy,Keter killed off almost all the elves and destroyed an entire continent forever. She's one of the most influential people ever for sure.
>>96431872>>96431874So what you're saying is that Savmak and Vtorusha are the most successful Outsiders because they're still "alive"
>>96431899You lose your memories on reincarnation. It doesn't matter at all. Without your memories you do not exist.
>>96431828>What's your starting point?Dis.>How are you getting there?Breaking and Entering to get a portal.>Why are you going there in the first place?Pay respects.
you could theoretically revive Savmak by using spirit tap to turn him into an Asura, no?
Mithra was a loser because he died btw
>>96431874The path to divinity is experiencing life and finding meaning in different perspectives. Jpnl even said that long living races have a difficult time with this since they don't get to experience new lives as often. The plan of all the elder gods is to welcome everyone into the ultimate eternal godhood and to do that is to go through the cycle of reincarnation over random over again. Death is not the end, it's a stepping stone.
>>96431923Truth detected. The god that came after isn't him, the real Mithra died.
>>96431908How is Vtorusha alive?>t. readlet chad
>>96431932She's stuck in her Mech in the Old Throne, pretty sure she's the source of all that Nightmare shit in the Underground
>>96431932She made a logic error by nullifying true dragons when her mother was a true dragon, and got sucked into the dream that would become the nightmare.
>>96431911>>96431931It's this guy again. Reincarnation in this universe doesn't follow whatever laws of reality you're thinking of. End of story.
>>96431949You do lose memories on reincarnation in OR. Wtf are you talking about?
>>96431410I don’t know why these anons are feeding you bad info. You don’t inherit it if you can’t meet the requirements, its right at the top right of gifts. Therefore you can’t inherit Stigmata if you aren’t a follower of SRTR.
Would Vtorusha and Savmak be sane enough to be worth reviving against Charlotte, or is it better to wait until after she's taken care off so you can deal with whatever mess they might make?
>>96431940She's the source of the dream in the underground, it's just countless other morons dumping their sewage into it that turned it into nightmare. Mostly true dragons.
>>96431920You could revive him with deathless graspHe hasn't let go yet
>>96431931well not fully dead, more like assimilated into a gestalt collective intelligence
>>96428803Bros. What is more appropiate for Du'um? Slovo Zemlya or Slovo Zhivette? Zhivette feels more epiphany like and Zemlya feels more arranged
>One>Vtorusha>Savmak>Keter>(you)You have approximately 18 years to assemble the earthchad team and kill 0^0
>>9643198550 if you're a dwarf
>>96431955Reincarnation involves your soul continuing to exist. That soul is you with or without your memories. To reach godhood your soul experiencing everything. Chances are you get all your memories back on reaching godhood so you can comprehend your lives and meanings. If you truly believe you are completely erased on death then reincarnation would not work.
>>96431961>Vtorusha spent 800 years trapped in a nightmares>Savmak was already a paranoid wreck before spending centuries as a cursed undead bladeDoubtful.
>>96431955well presumably not otherwise why would you force one to experience all of these stories, but your current identity will be diluted by millions if not billions of lifetimes of other individuals.
>>96431985>Keter>chadCategorically no.
>>96431999Memories is you. Soul is nothing.
>>96431955The ascension to divinity demands the accumulation of experiences. Reincarnation is not a final loss of memories as that would contradict the purpose of the reincarnation and the propagation of mortals to make it go faster.
>>96432002>other individuals"They" are literally (You).
>>96431985You can get Xian back with Baf.
>>96431958Thanks anon. That's a pretty definite answer.I guess I did need to read better.
>>96432001To be fair you don't really have to worry about much if you are a sword
>>96432015ehh... they are as much me, as a baby born out of the atoms of my corpse is
>>96432010In reality yes. This CYOA is not reality. If anything, keeping that type of mindset of yours in this world may actually cause you to erase yourself.
Saying that the you after a bunch of reincarnations isn't you, is like saying that you would die from getting immortality, because the you 10^1000 years from now would be so different from how you are now.
>>96431958Shame on me for i cannot read and propagated misinformation as a result
>>96432021Nah its easily missed cause its brought up basically 0 times outside of racial options. I’m just shocked the other anons, mostly that one really rude one, also missed it and were acting retarded when you already were on the right track.
>>96432041But in first case you will not remember your unforgettable night with Paxxia and in the second case you will.
>>96432041Exactly. And if you don't have memory retention you're not going to remember your existence at 100 yrs old when you are 10,000 yrs old. Same shit.
>>96432032Your soul is not equivalent to your physical component materials.
>>96432059Continuity matters.
>>96432002Reincarnation is like lacquering a chair, you can only ever see the top layer of lacquer but if at any point in time you were to examine the chair holisitically you would see that all the layers of lacquer underneath are still there. I suppose your complaint may be with being merely a layer lacquer but in the end you could say the same thing about your current self, even in continuation you will eventually merely be an inner layer as experiences accumulate.
>>96432053I apologize if i was the rude one (dunno who i am)
what happens if you take Keter and Thaumiel
>>96432067The soul is the continuity.
>>96432077Doomed yuri act 2
>>96432058You remember that your soul still contains all those experiences, right? You're just not allowed to remember them during reincarnations so you won't just redo everything you've already done and can experience things with a new perspective..
>>96432078I just can't accept that soul is you.
>>96432082Jpnl's favorite show
>>96432041but there is some maintenance of continuation of the mind, with reincarnation each new life is a blank slate with the only connection between them is sharing soulstuff.
>>96432089Then you're not engaging with the setting in good faith.
>>96431999But I have no reason to care about the soul.Imagine someone saying:"I am going to kill you, but after that I'm going to feed you to pigs. So you don't actually die, because the nutritious matter in your body continues to live on in the adipose tissue of the pigs.">If you truly believe you are completely erased on death then reincarnation would not work."If you truly believe you are completely erased after someone kills you and feeds you to pigs, then providing nutrition for the pigs from your body would not work."There are things about the body that are not erased, and perhaps they will provide nutrition for the pigs. But this has no bearing on what you consider the end of your self.
What's the strongest you can make Blazhko?There are builds with 5+ mentor slots.
>>96428803
>>96432087Actually, you can probably reawaken someone's past life memories if you fiddled with their soul, maybe.
>>96432062why are soul components and different from physical components?
>>96432077>Like if you brought Keter, Dirk and Thaumiel together trough untimeskip would such a team instantly collapse trough old grudges or would the outsider system somewhat smooth it over.>The Outsider System would only give you an open window of time to try to smooth things over through your own effort in this specific case. Don’t ask how long it will last. In other words, you theoretically could get them to work together.But in reality, do you really have those people skills? Probably not.
>>96432089Then perish. You've created an anti-solipsism for yourself and nullified your soul. If you don't believe the soul is you, then it is not you and you will not continue.
>>96432104That's the only specific point in the setting that I can't agree with. I as I am now can't see a "soul" as me. I care about my memories and my current self. If I lose that, that's a death (and it counts as a death in the setting). So I don't want to die. Reincarnation is death.
>>96432124>do you really have those people skills?Untimeskip moar.
>>96432130you get that all back when you ascend
>>96432119Her build is illegal.
>>96432137If you ascend. Out of millions of souls in the world of OR only one ascended in 1000 years.
>>96432119Presumably you could take unnotable one from other races in the past.
>>96432124>do you really have those people skills?I can buy my way into competence.
>>96432108>But I have no reason to care about the soul.Then don't. Live as long as you can then be erased without achieving godhood because you have no soul.
>>96432089But it is. That's the premise of the CYOA.The soul (or possibly the Gods) temporarily blocks its memories, gets born into the world, accumulates more memories, dies, blocks its memories again and so on until ascension.>>96432108>food analogyNow you're just being silly.
>>96432122Your physical components can theoretically be replaced with you still being you. If your soul is replaced, then it's no longer you, just someone wearing your body.
>>96432144Are you in a hurry?
>>96432144You're fucking with us if you're going to throw out 1000 years as if that's a long time on a divine scale.
>>964321441000 years is a blink of an eye in the face of eternity.Besides, that's just the one that we know about.>ifIt's an inevitability.
>>96432160My math teacher one showed me that there are different kinds of infinity. Some are enough to guarantee a certain outcome, and some are not. So there is a possibility that I will never ascend even in inifinite time.
>>96432154>Live as long as you canYes! That's exactly the point! While you do not try to live long, I will!
>Shadow Footwork x3 + autoantecedenceWhat's a fair ability for this?It is a 14 point combo
>>96432144Everyone will ascend that'd the whole goal. Some sooner than others but eventually it will happen. YMRD and STRTR wants to speed it up in their own ways. This is why I don't mind pandemonium and Rhucuphere. They are part of YMRD's plan to speed up ascension by having world ending events that kills everyone at once.
>>96432174The Mithra situation already shows that it's a countable infinity.
>>96432165>It's an inevitability.WRONG. Assume that with each life you have a probability p_i of ascention. Infinite series of p_i may never converge to 1.
>>96432174Your math teacher is a 0^0 spook
>>96432174YMRD's description explicitly states it to be guarunteed over infinite time. Or at least she as one of the leading experts in the field believes this to be the case.
>>96432193>um but what about some gay math copeShut the fuck up Charles
>>96432181Your teleportation can retreat to anywhere that you were today, however, this use case completely resets your trail of possible teleports.
>>96432175I enjoy all the lives I'm given to live and will enjoy playing god in my own created universe while I hang out with Jpnl, Ymrd and Strtr.
>>96432174For any finite 1/n chance of you ascending you will surely ascendOnly if you have an infinitely decreasing chance will it never happen
>>96432072well the main issue that I don't consider the other layers of Lacquer myself while the one lifetime was maintained than it was layered upon you so you could maintain continuity of self trough the layering, but reincarnation is like sanding off the layer of lacquer that is you and starting a new layer from the bare wood of the chair losing the connection to your previous layers. And in the end all of the old sanded off lacquer which includes you are combined with the chair into one being.
>>96432181Remove the need of focus to always teleport to the most desirable position and remove the need to be on your feet to activate the gift.
>>96432211And what if the chance is 1/3^n?
>>96432209It could already do that
>>96432210>I enjoy all the lives I'm given to live and will enjoy playing god in my own created universe while I hang out with Jpnl, Ymrd and Strtr.You can imagine enjoying that in the future, just as another person might imagine an Abrahamic/Norse/whatever afterlife. But you actually exist in the present.
>>96432159but why exactly would I care about the maintenance of the same soul? If someone switched my soul with another persons but my body and mind remained the same I wouldn't even care as it made no difference to me to my existence, in my mind I remained the same.
>>96431981
>>96432219Then it's infinitely decreasing?Are you really expecting to get further and further literally every time?Is that possible?
>>96432224The past, present and future. Given that time travel exists in this universe that guarantees that. What's your point?
>Another episode of people arguing that a particular work of fiction's metaphysics has to be the same as what they personally believe real life's are, in contradiction of what the text saysIt must be a day of the week.
>>96432238>If someone switched my soul with another persons but my body and mind remained the same I wouldn't even care as it made no difference to me to my existence, in my mind I remained the same.Wrong. From your perspective, you just got ejected from your body. The guy perusing your memories is someone else.
>>96432213I don't think that's correct, from my understanding your memories always exist within the soul and simply can't be 'seen' or interacted with, from a theoretical omniscient viewpoint you always exist and are still gathering meaning even as your surface changes and more layers are applied.
>>96432181You can teleport to your past 3 steps, but also your future 3 steps.In other words, you can teleport anywhere you can reach in 3 steps.>>96432209that's arguably weaker than x2, as you could just chain teleports to achieve the same effect without burning your dodge ability
>>96432182well you got to consider Rhucuphere might be searching for way to get rid off the elder gods, more permanently
>anons itt would be okay with swampman taking their lives
>>96432250It sure is. I don't see how some anons can play an imagination game with no imagination. I bet they can't even picture an apple in their head.
>>96432252I don't think you understand what memories are anon
>>96432181Now fully passive ability for defense use which you get completely mastered and you can now be applied for attack or scout purposes like finding blind spots, teleport to openings for a strike etc.
>>96431759He'll get the last laugh when he ascends into an Elder God while you thanatophobic faggots will stay as dementia-riddled corpses for all eternity.
>>96432274If I kill you, then make a perfect copy of your memories, including being killed, have I truly killed you? Are you dead?
>>96432273>an apple in their headsounds painful
>>96432273You guys have pictures in your head?
>>96431981Zemlya includes a very real possiblity of being dead for a whileone has been dead for ~850 years and he only has a chance of being brought backZhivette is a far safer betEither way slovo is very risky for a pixie because it can't be controlled and it remains as long as they live as their true death
>>96432296Forgot to mention, I'll put those memories into a perfect clone body as well
>>96432273I can only imagine blue apples. Is that ok?
>>96432301Her name is Ringo
>>96432240>>96431981Is it more appropriate for her to randomly die but not die, or randomly die and become a zombie?I don't know because I don't know the rest of her story.
>>96431753Yes, its only rivalled by a combination of Zlata + Xet (Absolute Offensive and Absolute Defense).
>>96432240There there, it will be ok
>>96432256but that eternal soul mind is not me, as it can't be 'seen' or interacted with, its just piggybacking on my body and mind to harvest my experience and memories for their own ends.
How many souls can I have?If they don't affect me physically, then my physical body can have more then one right?If I have the most souls will I ascend quicker?
>>96431806Good question, any answer?
>>96432250The thread always goes to shit every day at the same hour. It's just a couple of schizos.
>>96431688From the demon lordship traits sheet, Xian learn any improvement his templates learn about their abilities.
>>96432311What about R'sty?
>>96432330It's the only permanent continuous record of your existence, what would you consider 'you' then anyways anon?
>>96432338>How many souls can I have?I was going to say one, but being possessed by someone else should allow you to have more than 1>If they don't affect me physically, then my physical body can have more then one right?Again, this is possession>If I have the most souls will I ascend quicker?Being possessed by that many people will probably be a meaningful experience to help you ascend faster so yes
I can't imagine being an anon who doesn't go to bed at night and play out entire cyoa adventures over the course of years in the span of a few irl weeks.
What happens if you use blue grease for a lubricant during sexual reproduction?
>>96432338There's a few deaths that do that.
>>96432358What do you think pantorai's experiments were about?
>>96432348Much safer, if they avoid using magic, but a pixie without magic is useless in combatThings like tverdo are good because you can ensure it will never happen for as long as you adventure with them
>>96432355It's the easiest thing in the world during vacations.
>>96432252How so? The mind remained with the body. merely the soul was switched. Shouldn't the perspective remain with the mind?
>>96432250Imagine isekaing into a setting where a cosmic rule states: PINK IS THE CORRECT FAVORITE COLOR TO HAVE.Does it mean your imaginary isekaing self is in a state of confusion as long as he believes his favorite color is something else? But there is no greater authority for what is one's favorite color than oneself. What you consider your "self" and what you don't, is like that too. It's an inherently subjective matter, so for the setting to override it, it should override the beliefs in your brain, not something outside.
>>96432338>How many souls can I have?A minimum of one, zero-souled characters are shitty undead monsters. The Iotated Greater Yus can put multiple souls inside the same body. The Iotated Lesser Yus also allows you to place the same soul inside of different bodies at once.>If they don't affect me physically, then my physical body can have more then one right?Yes but it is a possession risk unless you're Evodia.>If I have the most souls will I ascend quicker?Ota thinks so.
>>96432353I would presume the current iteration of my mind or something close enough to it that I would think its still me
>>96431739It only work at the base of the wings, so it only help with wearing clothings and armors, you still need to figure out how to get inside it but you don't need hole in the back for the wings once in (just for the tail).
>>96432381Then can there be 2 yous?If I married the other you would you also count as mine?
>>96432242Repeating something over and over will nesserarily lead to a loss of Meaning.
>>96432369The soul is well >>96432353 so your current self would follow it. That other soul likely had its own prior existence it may or may not remember.
>>96432366But if i am already going to Zhivette/Zemlya then why should i worry this much about it? Kinda hoping to see what would be a nice death that would somewhat further their studies in some way
>>96432394No it won't?It's just a number that goes upI have experienced true love [count] timesO(1/Ln(x)) scaling at Worst
>>96432372If we're talking about belief, I don't even believe that YOU believe that comparison you made is valid.
>>96432355I've experienced so many lifetimes that I've already ascended to godhood.
>>96432408You are going way too deep into mathemagic. Beware as it may consume your soul.
>>96432403You don't need to worry about anything, I just think it would be more optimalPerhaps death would be a gift, but perhaps notPixies die alot without dying anyway, I don't know if Du'um would notice
>>96432393theoretically yes, but unless synchronized in some ways they would diverge in experience quite quickly and no longer be the same individual. So the necessary experiences to achieve marriage would have most likely diverged the two instances enough for them to no longer recognize each other as the same individual.
>>96432418It is the real lifeIt is the waking mind overtaking the body, as the artifice of man has overtaken the worldFreedom from our mortal shackles anon, the self incarnate in the physical without concession to chance
>>96432211That's why Mom takes care to arrange your lives in such a way that you receive new forms of spiritual enrichment in each one, sweetie.
>>96432439So I need to link your minds basicallyIf you are kept updated on memory then it counts as one you
>>96432440That's why I love returning to this thread from time to time. Nothing beats shitposting here.
>>96432396but the soul memory can not be accessed by the current body mind, so the change of the recorder will not be recognized by it. While the spiritual record will lose the continuity. The physical one will not and as it can't perceive the soul record it will not recognize a change in perspective.
>>96432454In my opinion, yes, as long as the mind perceives itself to be one entity it should satisfy my criteria.
>>96432358Your dick with become an air balloon.
>>96432291If he had chosen immortality he might have stopped charlie from becoming 0^0 and halting ascension for everyone
>>96432358>"Make them reach the seventh sky!" - Aurum Arc, probably
>>96432358>using deteriorated true dragon corpses as lubricant
>>96432480Acquired taste for Undeads.
>>96432480Well what were YOU going to do with them, HHHMMMMM??????
Are souls more fundamental than god script?
You are the 12thYou get to choose how the 11th diesWhat are you choosing?
>>96432454Iotated lesser yus (Yee? Zemlya? Zhivette?) shenanigans?
>>96432487Eat it.
>>96432460Yep, if you consider that to still be you then nothing has changed. The difference should only be noticeable once "you" die.
>>96430869If you want Rhucuphre's goal without evil methods then you need to pick Du'um, that's her thing.
>>96432490Everything is God-Script -> souls are made of God-Script -> souls are not more fundamental than God-Script.
>>96432492What’s the death slot?Anyways I gave Keter Zhivete so I would do the same here
>>96432492Shta
>>96432492Ot +True love
>>96432428I mean Du'um is a student of Eternity and Death. I feel like it is in its interests to study death including their own.
>>96432492Theta. Into the box you go.
>>96432492Sha. Get the fuck out of my story, old man.
>>96432492Zelo YeeLet's see what he can pull off.
>>96432460Part of the soul memory can definitely be accessed by the current life and it may be its primary store with the brain being secondary, how else would possession work?
>>96432506Either C or A is the usualy for mentors but for fun, any of them.
>>96432513I ascend into an elder god and fuck off to my own universeSick brah
>>96432492Are they a cute girl/absolute bro? If yes then I'll hit them with Sha, Zhivette. If not, but they're still cool then Myslete Yee. If they're Erginter tier, they're getting Kako or Yat with a Betrayal Most Foul.
>>96432492Zelo Zhivette. Go nuts.
>>96432492Psi, might revive JNPL this way or at least an undead version of the corpse
>>96432518>he thinks 100 years is enough to pull off a Mithralmao
>>96432492Hit'em with the old Iotated Az, if they can't trivially disarm it after 100 years of scaling then they hardly deserve their seat.
Is the number of souls in OR finite or infinite?
>>96432540They are howevermanytheeldergodswantnite.
>>96432540I have no idea
>>96432539>if they can't trivially disarm it after 100 years of scaling then they hardly deserve their seat.You guys will know how to remove your death slot after 100 years right?
>>96432539You think unleashing majin bejita 2 is a good idea?Not to mention giving them a reason to hate you from the start?
>>96432540They can always bring in new souls through the OR system
>>96432540Probably Finite since the Elder gods believe it's possible for everyone to Ascend eventually. The global population doesn't seem to have visibly increased so an increasing amount of soul would lead to people spending hundreds of years waiting around for a chance to revive.
>>96432558Stop being south americanIt's getting annoying
>>96432556I would have killed Nilmatrix so yes.
>>96432539The 11th has now been possessed... By the urge to go fishing. He never recovers.Good end.
>>96432516The mind is stored in the spirit, which is different from the soul, as the spirit can still be destroyed. Its the method that ghost type undead or Empyreans use. The spirit can have no access to the soul record like the body.
>>96432263All four gods can read the Outsider System text. Even ???'s ability to make reality forget she exists would not have been enough to hide her from the Elder Gods, with her being picked up by it. If they were worried or surprised, I'd expect some commentary like we get with Ota and Omega.
Izhitsa makes me think there is a way to create infinite death slots. Maybe something with time - as souls can die then come back with more death slots.If you were able to create a time loop, an infinite amount of deaths and an infinite amount of death slots would be available. Thus allowing you to use Izhitsa and reset the universe.
>>96432587Seems they didn't know the full details of her plan until they saw the Pandemonium option, but they're more excited than worried about that.
>>96432556>>96432558You can just get a friendly to possess you and undo it, that meets the requirements for the death letter to have been fulfilled, if you want to really play into the low chace of escape just make them roll 2d20 every minute and let you out when both come up twenties. Its one of the few letters that explicitly allows for escapes while still being considered fulfilled.
>>96432597Yeah, but that's gay. I'd rather just remove my death slot entirely to flex on the 12th and Keter.
>>96432587well she teaches you ways to hide things from the gods attention, she is most likely going to use it herself and she is probably a lot better than a mentored outsider at preventing the gods from noticing.
>>96432087Proof?
>>96432492I'm picking all the maladies then target 11th with Fiert. Have fun faggot.
>>96432608Don't know if it's a flex if keter wants to teach you how to remove it
>>96432492>11th is a nice/strong/dangerous but not malicious and have All-GlimpseEasily dodgeable one with their skills set.>11th would not mind to dieSomething which matches their wishes and story.>11th is an asshole/plans to kill other Outsiders/etcFiert and I spec my build to fuck them over
>>96432593wrong stand
>>96432618Enjoy being a pixie
>>96432155Nobody can prove your soul retains memories between lives, and even if it has memories, that's not the same as identity. If you lived as a chinese woman with a completely different personality and value set, is she going to be you? If you dump that into the same head as your memories of this life, but also another dozen lives that are completely different, in what way is that you?
>>96432619Keter wants to teach you how to avoid it, I'm planning to remove it entirely.
>>96432645Either way she'll be proud
>>96432573I refuse>>96432618Somehow that strategy never seems to work out.
Things 0^0 is afraid of:VtorushaOtaThings 0^0 wanted to kill but couldn't:MaouJdanKilynOmegaHonorary mention to Gewrgin who she had to pull out her hax assassin for. Bet he had a sick Icon of Icons multiplier.What else should be on the lists?
>>96432624>11th is an asshole/plans to kill other Outsiders/etcFiert and I spec my build to fuck them overYou might have a problem with that if the 11th is a necromancer or a Ecumene agent they can be turned into an undead or a empyrean to lose their death slot.
The limitations of Jdan's power imply that you have MAYBE 50 years to defeat 0^0 and the ecumene. All these long winded plans are not going to cut it. You, at minimum, need to buy time while somehow preventing 0^0 from just killing you.
>>96432655Ok I kek'd
>>96432632Better than being a terminally ill and blind nugget with ADHD and turns into a rat once a month.>>96432655>Aat managed to avoid being assfucked and turned into a curse by his dad>didn't work out??? I'll forgive your retardation since you're a third-worlder.
>>96432502My plans include killing Jdan and taking over his kingdom for a while, the issue is not with the methods. I just reasonably suspect that dumping the world in a dream before cleaning it from the nightmare properly and preparing for the "What next?" phase iwould not bring a good ending.Though now I feel silly for not taking Doom as a companion, guess I'll need to redo it a little.
>not picking Fiert and to become empyrean by swapping with Thaumielngmi
>>96432666>if the 11th is a necromancerWhich means no protection from random deaths or ones arranged by Outsider System which could not involve death letters.>Ecumene agentMakes Theta an option.
>>96432700I will never be a woman, you can't make me
>>96432675You know fiert isn't instant, right? You will have to live as a terminally ill blind nugget with ADHD that turns into a rat until your fiert swap happens. Which could be a very, very long time.
>>96432712Oh and obviously the 11th will be aware of all this and can prepare countermeasures, while you are sitting there unable to do anything as a blind ADHD nugget rat.
>>96432723Most builds aren't All-Glimpse builds, and detecting death slots is secret lore they'll have to figure out on their own.
>>96432729The 11th will have 100 years to prepare, and will know that (YOU) picked their death slot. Wouldn't be that hard to figure it out from there.
>>96432670>You, at minimum, need to buy time while somehow preventing 0^0 from just killing you.Assign correct death to self and don't fuck over people actively opposing Charlie, kill Nilmatrix, make sure Omega gets Ot and pick Evdokia.Some other events would also work if you have a specific plan how to make it harder for her.
>>96432729well personally I am a paranoid enough bastard that I would turn myself into an undead or empyrean just before the 100 years run out so I wouldn't even trigger Vedi.
So since SRTR was apparently trying to say that if you pick Buki you'll die no matter what, I need to change my death letter. But since I'm dumb and my companions can't assist with any of the super obvious death exploits and I'm out of Zhivetes, I don't really know which to slot to. I might have to give in and let the 12th waifu me.
>>96432670Her empire is built on sand. Get the people to rebel and send Maou in for another guerilla war and you'll have plenty of time.
>>96432762Tankista said you can still be picked by system even without Vedi. Vedi just ensure it will 100% happen and you will be Mentor (12th could even use Keter trick on you or even pick you both potentially).
>>96432776SRTR doesn't know what she's talking about. I'm built different. I can take her.
>>96432781>12th could even use Keter trick on youI'm not raising that gremlin, I'll say it right in my bio
>>96432781Go full Ecumene deserter and go live inside the Ecumene to get out of the range of the outsider system.
>>96432791you should go kill SRTR for doubting you
>>96432638I was conscious as that Chinese woman and made a lifetime of decisions as her. She'd be just as much me as the me I am now. I ascribe my identity to this broad self-consciousness, not an aggregate of external memories.
>>96432776Buki is the choice of winners.
>>96432852The broad self-consciousness is a set that contains all the consciousness of your lives but those individual consciousnesses aren't identical to each other. It's completely valid to rule that only the consciousness you're experiencing in this life is you and is in fact the more reasonable take, while these broad entity is someone else that merely contains some trace of you.
>I-I need to hide from 0^0!!! what if I die!?!?loser mindset>Bukiwinner mindset
>>96432859>looks at drunk Katya sobbing in a cornerUmm, bad news for you, chief.
>>96432889I love you, Keter.
>>96432889that winner mindset did no good for Katya
>>96432632You know Fiert could activate just a moment before 11th die?
>>96432895You mean katya who is not dead? The one who will have an epic redemption arc and help me kill 0^0?yeah
>>96432911If the 11th tries to kill themselves, that would kinda force the hand of fate into switching your body right then and there, no?
>>96432776>since SRTR was apparently trying to say that if you pick BukiSource?
>>96432913>The twelfth will have to redeem two broken shells
>>96432913Redeeming Katya that is easy modeRedeeming 0^0 now that is an actual challenge
Can you shit lords just make a separate general for this shit. No one is going to drop new oc now. You’re flooding all the interest. Shoo.
>>96432934no
>>964329330^0's redemption will come in her next lifedeath is not the end
>>96432934Sorry for discussing a cyoa in the cyoa general bro, I'll be sure to start shitposting about Tok and Italics next thread
>>96432923Look what happened with Aat/Xian. It may work this way.
>>96432924Tankista.
>>96432933She doesn't deserve redemption.She denied us the chance to pick from cute naga and Ooze girls. No forgiveness.
>>96432948loser mindset, don't procrastinate, solve stuff in this lifetime
Honestly, props to Keter for being able to fight and survive Charlie without plot armor. I'd give her good odds for being able to solo Nilmatrix if you get her out of her funk.
>>96432982Wisdom is knowing when to fix things and when to wipe the slate clean and start over
>>96428803There is no practical benefit in picking Buki. Want to avoid her? Don't pick it. Want to fight her? Picking it means you lose your fated protection from death the moment you meet her, so don't pick it.
>>96432994NIlmatrix fucked Keter once. She can do it again.
>>96432994>fight and surviveShe was wrung out like a wet towel. She died like 100,000 times. That's part of why she's so mad at Thaumiel.
>>96432975you do not understand the enlightened ways by making becoming a Ooze girl or a cute Naga harder, you will appreciate becoming one so much more.
There's simply no way [JNPL] mother is even remotely worth it. You lose -5AP/-5DP, but that's a token cost compared to not having a biological mother and father. You lose out on like 20AP worth of gifts, and are permalocked out of some gifts like machina mounting.The boons you can get from the patronage of other gods are just as strong, and don't require this sacrifice.
>all these immortal empyreals that Charlie made, entrapped in their current livesIf/When the Elder Gods get back in power, they are absolutely arranging a fate that depowers all empyreals. If you're one, you're losing your powers.
>>96432994She is pretty impressive in some ways, that's true. Also, I know if I failed as hard as she did I'd spend a few decades moping about it too.
>>96432889The winner mindset is whatever the final victor hadDead people don’t win
>>96433010They'll cope about needing it to encounter her>>96433013By tricking them, not in a fight>>96433016She still managed to get away, and Charlie is way more powerful than Nilmatrix
>>96433037I don't think so. In fact the elder gods were the ones mass producing Empyreans, while Charlie has only made a few of them.
>>96432996true, the elder gods need to be wiped clean from the board so the people are free to choose for themselves
>>96433051Charlie turned the entire chicken race into empyreans
>>96433037Just like they killed all eldar who didn't want to play their stupid games.
>>96433010But what if you're too dumb to evade other death letters?
>>96433051What are you talking about? 0^0 made all of the empyreans.
>>96433051100% of the Phoenixians are Empyreans.Most of the Giants are Empyreans.Lots of others too.She made so many Empyreans that she had to stop because she was devaluing the race.
>>96433037Chances are you'll probably kill most of them when taking Charlotte out.
>>96433016>Anons expect Keter to be a depressed asshole and a drunkard>She is actually borderline suicidal, can't sleep becasue of nightmares, have severe PTSD and spontagelsy cries all the time
>>96432975Mercy freely given.
>>96433089True Love will save her
>>96433037They still can be killed, it is just hard. It is very possible that they will become another magical race, and you and next Outsiders will have to deal with 0^0's loyalist plotlines.
>>96433089She had it coming.
>>96433107I hope true love saves me
>>96433089>>She is actually borderline suicidal, can't sleep becasue of nightmares, have severe PTSD and spontagelsy cries all the timeWhat a loser. Couldn't be me.
>>96433114It's you isn't it
>>96433079Yeah, I think Omega's entry implied Empyreans need divine patronage for their bs to work. So if she's gone, most of them are getting depowered.
>>96433076no, she had to stop mass production to patch the backdoor Keter and Thaumiel used to become half-empyrean.
>>96432994Since her letter was obvious, 0^0 probably kept giving her new letters and triggering them right away, and Keter had to come up with ways to dodge them on the spot.Explains how she got so good at it she classifies as a mentor for it. Just dodging a couple wouldn't qualify you for it.
>>96433010>Picking it means you lose your fated protection from death the moment you meet her, so don't pick it.And? Do you think fated protection from death will be helpful after you've met her? Either you win, in which case it doesn't matter, or you lose, in which case you're fucked anyways. You can run away, but you can do that with Buki and you won't have a death slot to worry about.Also, with Buki you don't have to worry about dying before confronting her, or dying from one of her minions.
>>96433123that just Omega bullshit she is a naturally born empyrean and has everlasting on top of that, she is extra immortal compared to another Empyrean. Empyreans are more like the undead.
>>96433010Confront Charlotte in a non-violent way. Simple.
>>96433145If you don't have JNPLs blessing she can just make you have a heart attack at any time, or make you go Myslette. Does that blessing qualify as contradicting things for Deus ex Machina? If so taking it with Buki could be a funny way to make her erase herself.
>>96433010>you lose your fated protection from death the moment you meet herYou needed fated protection to kill Charlie?
If Aat was a good guy then why are there so many evil majin and demon lords throughout history? His dad wasn't around for very long.
Anons, we are getting pretty low on the list.New thread: >>96432931
>>96433145As anon said she can just bullshit you to death with no counterplay unless you have JNPL blessing. She still can do it somewhat with JNPL blessing.
>>96433010Except it DOES protect you though. Picking Buki guarantees that you won't die from anything, and even fighting her won't guarantee your death either. The only thing this letter does is make it so you're fated to fight her.
>>96433183He's just trying to warn other anons away from getting themselves killed, personally I could take her even if I take all maladies, buki, and her as a mentor.
>>96433177>>96433198You can counter this with YMRD, or any number of other methods.
It's a shame you can't give Charlie encounters, it could be funny to give her For Auspicious Beginnings or Never Alone
Arguably, Charlie + untimeskip is the strongest combination in the game.
I'm just going to bring back Vtorusha and let her deal with Charlie.Not my problem.
>>96433216That's assuming YMRD will be willing to come with you to face Charlie.
>>96433188He gave them free will, was more concerned about True Dragons and saving sister.He wasn't full on champion of justice or paragon of virtue and instead tried to solve fundamental issues of the world as he saw them.
>>96433234>Not my problem.One of the most used sentences for the players of an adventure defined by Meaning.
>>96433252Does my adventure have to be defined by Charlie?
>>96433235I don't see why she wouldn't want to do that.
>>96433123It's more that she is holding a tight leash on empyreans and becoming one... Somehow. It seems that after you become one she can't take it back because keter and that one mathemathician mentor don't
>>96433205>personally I could take her even if I take all maladies, buki, and her as a mentorShe's not that hard to kill provided your imagination isn't deficient. Scaring people off is just going to reinforce her "invincibility" narrative.
>>96433261>that one mathemathician mentor don'tShe botched it and isn't a real Empyrean
>>96433260If she could 1v1 Charlie, why didn't she already?
>>96433021God fucking damn it. I was about to finish my build and now i want to drop everything and become a Ooze instead.
What if you just close your eyes whenever Charlotte is around so she can't see you
>>96433273Because now it's a 1v1⅒
20/35 (All letters with meanings) complete, up to slovo now. You realise how few archetypes you actually know fast when you decide to do something stupid like this.
>>96433280Try it for me, won't you?
>>96433273That wouldn't be an interesting story
>>96433294Ҁ Ф ʌ?
>>96433294What are you trying to do, exactly? Sorry if you've answered this before, I lack the context.
>>96433198Also, all of your other fates have to resolve before you can die. Most fates are random in when they occur, but there are several fates that are NOT random. For example, "One" will die when you reach adulthood. If you die before reaching adulthood, that would be a contradiction. Therefore 0^0 can't kill you before you're an adult. Same with Shadow of God and Pack of Goblin encounters.
>>96433280Don't do that. She'll get scared and confused.
>>96433300Yup, its slow going>>96433303My plan involves making a majin to fully house each of the 45 letters so I decided to make a full list of them with abilities personalities and locations for fun.
>>96433313Living to meet fates has always been a paper shield. You can be permanently crippled without dying.
I'm pretty sure Man versus Author gives you resistance to fate/causality.
>>96433313>Pack of Goblin encounters.Has anyone taken the Lone Gremlin encounter? Think they'll win or will they need someone to bail them out.
>>96433327Sure, but that goes for all fates in OR. So Buki does not leave you particularly vulnerable or anything.
>>96433327>He isn't a pixie chad who can just full restore anytime
>>96433337If you're taking Lone Gremlin, you should be more than powerful enough to deal with that. It means you've probably taken all the other Uruk encounters as well (since they give more points), and should have a very strong build.
>>96433352I've been utterly destroyed by this observation and my life is in shambles.I kneel to the pixiechads.
>>96433337Depends on what you pickedThat's a very different event if you're a squishy elf mage who hasn't learned much magic yet, or if you're a Drakonid.
>>96433294<3I hope it’s a randomly selected true love
>>96433337There are many gifts that would make a single weak uruk trivial even for a six year old.
>>96433381>true loveHow will tide anons react if the Twelfth takes them all as mentors and True Loves them all?
>>96433415I'm being a father option so she'll have to pay to dice fudge me.
could you kill 0^0 with bleeding heart gesture + far graze? Which one would be better to take with autoantecedence? Obviously you would need to be a spider
>>96433415SPITE followed by horror, disgusted, panic and finally fear.
>daemonhost lets you pick your own letter...what do you take?
>>96433422She's an Empyrean. Killing her body is only a piece of the puzzle, and it's probably the least important one.
>>96433422Physical power is the worst path to beating 0^0. Anything else is better, the elves almost killed her, Keter got curbstomped.
>>96433415As long as she gives me a good letter I won't hold a grudge.
>>96433434Xi, Psi, or Izhitsa
>>96433437Well it still takes time for her to revive. Time that you can use to claim the pillar for yourself.Anyways, how does 0^0 use her powers in the first place? doesn't she have to use the blood of JNPL or something?
>>96433415WarHate and then slowly, redemption But I’ll get there first so I’m keeping 12
>>96433439>Anything else is betterEven bullying her into suicide?
>>96433451>I’m keeping 12Over my dead bodies
>>96433452Yes, she's full of depression and self loathing. That's a great choice.
>>96433452Dei-child build where you recover the corpse of her first husband and summon remembrances to act disappointed in her when
>>96433452>>96433461she's much more likely to chimp out and destroy everything than just kill herselfEasiest way would be finding a way to return her to Earth
>>96433458This is exactly the war I meant, and is why I am taking her virginity at 13 to make her useless to anyone else(I will raise her in a literal ivory tower until then)
>>96433415I'm going to be their Mother so it wouldn't work out. I'd support them in their endeavors of building a harem though. A chip off the ol' block...
>>96428803Is the official title of the toybox "Toybox" or "[SRTR]'s Toybox"?This is important.
>>96433471That's fine, her ending the world just means YMRD resets it, so it's also a victory condition
>>96433471If she destroys the world then YMRD restores it without her. It's still a complete win for you.
>>96433478But if you’ll be their mother,And I’ll be their father…How do we work this
>>96433437Nonsense. Just kill her until her spirit breaks like she did with keter
>>96433488>>96433490>killing everyone including yourself is a win
>>96433421>>96433478adoptive or is 12th an Outsider Eugenicschad?
>>96433501You'll be dead for five seconds tops, don't sweat it!
>>96433434Izhitsa because it is digraph of Ouk, connected to Upsilon and comes with power of Yoke/Igo of total control.But also>Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
>>96433415Annoyance, but not much more than than that. True love guarantees a spark, but I'm not ruled by my emotions or sex drive, and I'm not interested in being part of a harem.
>You feel an overwhelming urge to mate with one of your fellow outsiders in year 99>Turns out it wasn’t fate and 12 was born to unnotable onesHow do you recover this?
>>96433495It's alright you can have sole custody. I'll pop in from time to time to check up but can't really afford to tie myself down.>>96433511Wouldn't waste time on them if they weren't blood related. Also because that'd just be a stupid move from them, my genetics far outshine whatever I have to teach, and my teachings would most likely would be how to use said genetics to their full potential like Kashtanka making it even better to go all in.
>>96433526Az everyone involved
>>96433415Since I took Vedi I'll be annoyed they wasted that many points, their parent options better be busted
>>96433498Her spirit is already broken, anon. She's just the sort who lashes out instead of retreating from the world like Katya.
>>96433526>"Oh no the Outsider System is making us fall in love with each other...">"Bro we aren't even options on there what are you doing."
>>96433528Oh coolI’ve always wanted to be a father
>>96433526well you have just birthed the child of prophecy why would you be disappointed, they are destined to do important things and you can be happy knowing your baby doesn't have the mind of some 30 year old man
Objectively speaking, the best plan is to build the ultimate warmachina and then transfer your soul into it.Intelligence is linked to hardware too, so if you can improve that...
>>96433540Then beat her up harder
>>96433526Oh no I'm having a kid with someone I'm attracted to and have plenty in common with what will I dooooooo
>>96433563They're a sweaty neckbeard doing a fantasy cosplay.
>Wereplague can be cured>It's only "relatively hard to come by for an average person"Isn't this thing just free points?
>>96433569Basically yeah.Might be annoying while you're a kid, but it's easily the best malady.
>a randomly selected human will only know Everman, a language that isn't really spoken anywhereMake it make sense
>>96433569Depends on who your parents are
>>96433569it depends.
>>96433542>>96433528Can I be the weird uncle who occasionally drops by to rant about how the ecumenical deep state is putting poison in the water to turn the world mathematical.
>>96433026b-but muh jesus symbolism bro?
>>96433555You lack Maker's Brush to make it work like Vtorusha did.
>>96433575It's spoken in Dis, also hilarious how more Majin now Everman than humans
>>96433526My penis won't work at Year 99. And I'll be dead.
>>96433587One of the companions can build new greater warmachina, given time and experience.
>>96433568Do you honestly think someone can live a hundred years in a new life without changing at all anon. Even if that's what they were at the start, it's not what they are anymore. I'm not the same person I was at the start of all this either.
>>96433587Maker's brush wasn't all that. It helped, but it wasn't the only factor.
>>96433575It's spoken everywhere, it's just never the primary language.
>>96433597oh and you could even dicefudge + untimeskip if you wanted to get a head startor revive Vtorusha
>>96433573If your parents are wealthy or royalty it'll be cured before you're a toddler. It's weird that it gives as many points as Bitter Sickness, which no one has ever fixed.
>>96433569>>96433573>get disowned because you LITERALLY went hog wild
>>96433600So I'm not the one ascending, is what you're saying?
>>96433568They'll have spent more time cosplaying than they did on earth
>>96433575I can't, because it doesn't. Really should've been a pick-a-1-point-human-language situation.
>>96433329no it doesn't, Tank said that it's just fluff meant to hype up the retards who picked uruk
>>96433613If that's what change means to you, sure.
>True Love on NilmatrixI can fix her
>>96433591Well yes but that implies these random people are all selected from this one majin city-state, or their families are some kind of Esperanto obsessed weirdos who refused to teach their kids real languages.>>96433606>It's spoken everywhereNot to the degree that we can live there if it's our only language. Fate has to be pushed to teach them something else.>>96433625See, that would make sense to me.
In fact, you can theoretically obtain Maker's Brush via Savmak's sword. And that's assuming there are no other living person with this gift.
>>96433643>Wants some ntr in his betrayal
>>96433638You probably can make a spell out of it. Classic magic works on quotes here.
>>96433643Star-crossed lovers are beloved by fate, even if they're hated by causality. I believe in you, anon.
People are hyping Makers brush up too much, it's like any of the other "pick x times" gifts. It's a nice gimmick, but skill and knowledge are more important.
So the Keter trick is using dice fudge on her and choosing her as an adoptive parent, so you can have all languages, right?
>>96433656Jokes aside that's probably the most safe Nilmatrix encounter possible. She just ntr you, nothing more.
>>96433702Then Quieten the ones you don't want.
>>96433702Yes. It also works for Thaumiel
>>96433711>Quieten>Doesn't work on God Script...doesn't this imply that God Script can be learned through inheritance
>>96433667Even though I agree that's its overhyped, the inborn gifts available to ass are severely lacking in crafting powers. The only gift that can be considered crafting one is Grim Outlook, which requires you to cry like a bitch to work.
>>96433732Are you watching, anon? Can you see yet more people make this mistake? You had far too much faith in them.
>>96433709>She just ntr you, nothing more.It's the kind of event that changes Anons into raving lunatics hellbent on destroying the world. Luckily Charlotte is here to put the rabbid dog down. Thanks 0^0 for the Ecumene!
>>96433702Yes.You pick her, sells language you don't need and she potty train you and mentors you in her death evading gimmick.You also have to now play her psychological support.And hope she doesn't develop a grudge over it.
>>96433734>ass*us, wtf autocorrect?
>>96433740i am watching.I am tempted to Yat.
>>96433734>the inborn gifts available to assI missed this section in my reading...
>>96433582I know that 12 has true loved you, so no
>>96433751Now if we're going by the spirit of the letter you're getting Kako'd.
>>96433742But imagine how good that would be for your soul. You will be one step closer to your ascension.
Dream passage x3 + Upunth could be a good comboand the dream passage text implies it has more abilities beyond what is written
>>96433732>this again>>96433763Now that you've said it, chances are you'll be cucked at least once in one of your reincarnations.
>>96433709It explicitly says "you'll have to fight" in Nilmatrix' comapnion card. She probably just feels a bit more conflicted about it when she tries to kill you.
>>96433763You can't justify all horrors with your ascension plan, [JNPL].
>>96433786[SRTR] actually
>>96433786That is SRTR you're speaking to, anon. Leave my mom out of this.
>>96433785If you play your cards right you could get her to not kill you, or even join your side. Just makes it a bit easier to turn her.
Is it possible to take all the Mentors and Companions? What if you take 0^0 as a patron and burn your past for it?
>>96433779Dream passage x3 is probably just Esu's abilities.
Dirk Yesod does not explicitly say that he cannot teach you 0^0's Word of God. Blazhko explicitly does say that he cannot be taught by 0^0.So can or can't you choose to have Dirk Yesod teach you Word of God?
>>96433779Anything dream related has high growth potential in OR
>>96433806You canDirk has the skills
>>96433799You'll never have enough points nor slots to do it.
>>96433799Impossible, there are 40 companions and 40 mentors. Not to mention the equivalent number of slots you'll need.
>>96433809Always has been.
>>96433799Impossible.Still. Eleventh with all Mentors and all Companions. What's the result? Can Twleth even stop you?
>>96433793>Laws of causality will ensure that she does not betray her master
>>96433793Turning her is explicitly not possible while Causality holds.
>pixies can't do physical combatcheck out Vu'uk
>>96433829It's not betrayal, it's helping Charlotte come to her senses by taking her false divinity away.
>>96433809Dreamshittery is the perfect counter to 0^0 causality crap. Dreams by their very nature buttfuck causality on the regular. Dreams have no rhyme or reason nor logical consequences. Trying to predict the outcome of a dream is like trying to trap sand with a net.
>>96433829>>96433833I'm not sure that implies she won't ever betray her master in any way. Might just be that she won't betray her master in fighting (you).Besides, you can ride the line between betrayal and not betrayal.
>>96433826Twelve can always get you, because you can always lose to the vagina
>>96433833Just become her new master before she betrays her old one.
>>96433806Tank said yes on reddit, but only if 0^0 is your patron. The mentors have to be someone who "could've taught you", and if you don't meet her requirements, she is not a valid mentor for you.
>>96433843>you can always lose to the vaginaNTA, but what kind of retard get reincarnated with all that cool stuff into a story where THEY are the protagonist and still loses to fucking girls?
>>96433826A better question would be: Can all the Elder Gods combined stop you?
>>96433740>>96433782Nta, explain why the line is there then? Are you seriously interpreting Keter's "Any" so that she has God-Script? That's silly.
Can you use Tenyota on Death of the Author? Then just give everyone resistance to divine power...?
>>96433848If my soul was strong enough to resist pussy I wouldn't need reincarnating anymore.
>>96433848True Incels.
>>96433852She doesn't and you can't learn god script through inheritance, aside from whatever's implied by mage training.
>>96433854Sure, but it wouldn't be as strong.
>>96433854Death of the Author isn't an inborn gift.
>>96433608>It's weird that it gives as many points as Bitter SicknessIt doesn't.
>>96433836>pixie + bestial strength + mitigating gripits all shits and giggles until the pint sized fairy starts ripping and tearing through armies like paper.
>>96433848It’s the exact type of heroes downfall srtr will write you
>>96433864Then the line serves zero purpose. If the line wasn't there, the CYOA would work exactly the same.
>all these complicated plansjust use Ota0^0 is quaking in her boots just thinking about the possibility of you choosing her
>>96433854No, it's not the same as normal Gifts.
>>96433848the consequences of being a maidenless chud
>>96433878true
>>96433843>>96433848>>96433889homochads win yet again
>>964338714=2*2
>>96433882She's aware and ready for that. It's like trying to wake up Vtorusha. Too predictable.
>>96433889I ran out of destiny points bro, couldn't afford maidens
>>96433897what do you mean win? you'll lose to dick the same anon lost to pussy.
>>96433882>just use the most boring answer in a game that work on hype and narrative
>>96433907That's ok anon, there are plenty of fishes in the world of OR. In fact you can still find and romance those you like even without choosing them in the cyoa.
>>96433904The difference is that 0^0 isn't predicting you wake up Vtorusha, she thinks it's impossible because the piece of missing. She's not predicting you figure out how to extract it from Dirk's brain, or that you might be able to use time magic to reverse damage on the chair.
>>96433882I bet Charlie freaked out when she got to this character in the system, she probably had no idea she existed before then.
>>96433904Come on Vtorusha dismantling 0^0's alternative system is gonna be hype as fuck
>>96433882Ota is boring unless you go full edgemode demon lord. Most anons are trying to be heroes and not spread demonic AIDS around.
>>96433843>11th go Erginter 2.0 Psycho Murderhobo build>Gets Yphonted/Pantoraid by 12th
>>96433955>Notices how many anons took Pukuxun and Hidden Amongst the Clouds
>>96433904If anything, that's the "cannon" way to do it. Considering the greyed out "Second War of Heaven and Earth" encounter, the Moon/Pillars locations, etc.
>>96433968Excuse me, I took Hidden Amongst the Clouds and Zhuchka, we're going to figure out how to do mage-cult without any of the evil bits.
>>96433809>>96433838Dreams are easily the best raw power option. Dreamshit can even mess with inborn gifts, as seen in the Lost in Lost City event
Did you write anything for OR but haven't shared for various reasons?
>>96433968I mean surely Pukuxun has one method that doesn't require mass genocide right?
>>96434009I wrote plenty but I don't expect anons to read it due to the amount.
>>96434009Too much, but I'm not self-conscious to ever post it there.
>>96434009Yes.
>>96434009kinda?
>>96434009Yes, I'm keeping my exploits for myself thank you.
>>96434041C'mon we shared the Keter trick and the Gunter-Dobruva killbox, don't be a jew
>>96433204What makes Buki iffy to me, is that Charlie could just summon me un front of her when I'm 10
>>96433947Here's your music for when her robot shows up to punch 0^0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlTlQw-h8Y
>>96433968That’s not immoral. You are helping the wayward souls of the ecumene move on to their next life and continue the path towards ascension. In fact since you are helping them ascend it’s a good thing :)
>>96434009Bare bones of my build. Conflicting desires of engaging with Outer Tide as a theoretical "last one" ultimate megajobber without mentors, companions and parent choices beyond Unnotable Ones and making a reasonably unique build are too contradictory. I suffer in this logic error without any hope and any honor.
>>96434009Plenty.
>>96434009People would say I'm neurotic if I posted my detailed timeline of events.
>>96434009I haven't shared it because I need to finish the rest of my interactionsI don't know how long it will take>>96434024I would read itEspecially if it had me in it
>>96434072You could actually be pretty strong if you did that and chose 0^0 so you could convert DP to AP.
>>96434072Which tide do you want to be in? If you can't make up your mind maybe building towards that could help?
>>96434009Nothing worth posting. Just a bunch of disconnected stories based on whatever build I'm working on. I mostly write them to find issues with my builds and figure out how to resolve them.
>>96434087I also made one of thoseGo for it dude
How do you get dirk yesod to spill the beans about the chair
>>96433947Don't listen to the other guy.The music will be from Demonbane.
>>96434097____ ____
>>96434097Suck his dick
>>96434107Interesting how that's your first answer.
>>96434105I think the 40 year age gap will stop any but the truest jnpl believers
>>96434089>chose 0^0I'm not retarded enough to do this without being on her side. And I'm not on her side.
>>96434088It's a solo build so unfortunately you are not in it unless you are the 12th.
>>96434062You are joking but you are not wrong since Charlie is aiming for the world to only have unnotable ones who can't do anything of note and all souls gets turned into her powers (per Evdokia description). This overshadows True Dragons in scope.
>>96434097Be a better person
>>96434113He just needs a good fucking then he'll be putty in your hands.
>>96434088average attention whore
>>96434127tfw the enemies so blatantly evil even being an outright villain in all but name still means you look like the good guy in comparison.
What's the point of Untimeskip if you got two add-on Encounters that turn your Mentors into Companions anyway? It's a waste of points.
>>96434097Rail his hot milf mom daily within All-Glimpse distance until he begs you to stop.
>>96434105>>96434107>>96434113>>96434133let's be honest though bros... don't pretend you wouldn't
>>96434173I really wouldn't.
>>96434159you insta learn the skill from birth so you can develop it further and can use it on someone like 0^0 who doesn't have the encounters
>>96434173If I was even a little gayer then I am now, probablyBut as it stands, No
>>96434159Having knowledge instantly is valuable. It means you can rely on those skills for any encounters that happen in your childhood (mentor encounters and uruk encounters), and some mentors like Rhucuphre teach things that can give you a long-term advantage against 0^0 if you start using them early.
>>96434173I can't even understand why YOU would.
>>96434159Another 12-20 years to practice with the skills you would have learned from those mentors. Being given knowledge that could have been arduous or unpleasant to learn. More options for choosing your encounters. Securing more than two mentors as companions. More things I can't think of.
>>96434173>those hips...mhmmm maybe you're right anon, but he'll be the one doing the all sucking.
>>96434159The point is to get everything they taught you the moment you're born. You'll be a toddler with their skills.>>96434173Those thighs are looking pretty thicc
>>96434173He's just a kid. He could use a friend that won't backstab him at the slightest inconvenience.
>>96434200A 39 year old kid?
>>96434173>childbearing hips>plump thighsWould
>>96434173Keter did it, so I can do it too.
>>96434204well more like 50+ when he meets you
>>96434208Katya is homogaydyke
>>96434173Please don't. Dirk has had a hard life.
>>96434204You are too, mister Outsider.
>>96434204Pretend I double down. But I always got the impression the Keter robbed him of a life when she ground that rock on his eyes.
>>96434204>>96434218Why the fuck do all monarchs in the world of OR look like teenagers anyways? Dei and Thaumiel I can sorta understand since they're semi-Immortal demons, but the rest just look young for no reason.
>>96434222That's what broke him
>>96434223All the more reason he needs it. Man needs a moment to let go and experience some pleasure for once.
>>96434241In a world of magic, one cannot determine age by appearance.
>>96434223I bet that if you take away his All-Glimpse without killing him, he'll personally thank you by giving up his you know what.
>>96434241>The three stooges>Queen of the furry kingdom >Slut King>0^0I think you're forgetting a few of them. They look to be at least 20s or higher.
>>96434255Only longevity gives the ability to stay young as you age.
>>96434223>implyingthat only makes me want to do it moreI can fix him
Dirk has suffered enough without having to deal with Anonymous from 4chan.
>>96434227>KeterI can fix her.
>>96434259Saying the furry queen looks 20+ is a bit of an insult considering she's 16.
>The three stoogesWould you?
>>96434241Most of the human ones are either in their 20s or not that old yet, and Simka is 16. The only old ones are Dirk and Jdan.
>>96434296They are my aunts, so my answer is both "Ideally" and "Realistically no because they're trying to kill me and I need them dead to press my royal claim."
>>96434296They're going to die before I get the chance
The pictures given do not necessarily reflect the appearance of the character at the time of your birth. So they look young because the image is from when they were young.Same reason why the -2, and -4 year olds even have images.
>>96434296YesLook at them, they're still in good conditionI would
>>96434173>Dirk Yesod (Alisa, Ielziaseh-from-Erebus)
>>96434303Just let them know you're an outsider and save them from their fated death, and they'll be on your cock in no time.
>>96434276Wtf are you talking about? The only lifespan gift that lets you look old is Overendurance and that's only if you live for a long ass time.
>>96434324Anon, people like that will backstab you for power regardless of how stupid of an idea it is.
>>96434241You're asking this in a cyoa where you can be fucked by your sister at 14 yrs old and give the option to true love your own daughter. Not to mention the cheaper price if you make Zwa fuck her teen brother.
>>96434308That doesn't apply to Dirk and Jdan. Both of their pictures clearly reflect their current state.
>>96434326readlet-kun...
>>96434338>Not to mention the cheaper price if you make Zwa fuck her teen brother.I can't think of a single scenario where it's actually cost or build efficient to do so desu.
>>96434339"Curent state" for Jdan is relative.
>>96434332>afraid of three dumbass bimbosweak
>>96434349Neither can I but it's there.
>>96434339It doesn't apply to any of the rulers. Most of the human ones are in their 20s when you're born and the images reflect that, Simka is 16, Dei and Thaumiel are Majin, Paxxia is a Drakonid, and only Dirk and Jdan are both human and old.
>>96434349The only thing I can think of, is having a stronger claim to the throne. You might be an incest baby but you are more of a legitimate heir than the stooges and their kids.
How large or strong is a Drakonid's dragon form supposed to be?
>>96434378Araith's form is as large as an island and that's supposed to be an abnormal. So smaller than that.
>>96434378Large enough to tower over a mounted armored knight, strong enough to fight 5-6 of them evenly. >>96434386>Drakonid builds will always be smaller than Araith
>>96434386Yeah, but Araith is an actual True Dragon, so she's not exactly a decent point of reference even if Drakonids are always going to be smaller.
>>96434396tbf Araith is a freak of nature, I doubt many or any True Dragons reached her size.
>>96434366It's not like it's impossible for a dude at 39 to look like he's in his 20's. It's a bit unusual sure, but it happens.
>>96434408Bro Jdan and Dirk do NOT look in their 20s. They look like highschool freshmen.
>fought beside and against many Outsiders - and one False oneWait, did Yaropolk fight Charlie? He's only 355 years old, so that only leaves Sarmat, Erginter, Charlie, and Katya
Anons, I have an idea.We have Ielziaseh repeating the method to become a proper god at small scale, but currently stagnating.Drop Ouk + Zhivete at her and I am pretty sure you can have a close approximation of a pre-ascension Mithra as a companion.Charlie is definitely not ready for this shit.
>>96434418Forget Dirk, check out his mom.
>>96434396>>96434401Drakonids are supposed to be the lesser True Dragons. The test implies that she is an abnormal size. Thus, Drakonids are usually smaller than her. It's not much but it's the only information the canon gives.
>>96434422Those and Inga
>>96434378Don't forget that female dragons are larger than male dragons. So Paxxia will mog you anyway.
>>96434437>ingadamn who the fuck is this?Is there somewhere where I can read the entire extra lore in one place?
>>96434422From his description that's at least Inga Yesod and Erginter. And possibly Xian since he's closely related to Erginter in her last years.
Should Gunter really only cost one point?
>>96434448Inga Yesod>Is there somewhere where I can read the entire extra lore in one place?Check the drive that's linked in the imgchest
>>96434448Inga is the queen who pretended to be an Outsider, founded the research that led to 0^0's false ascension, became an undead doll companion that can make empyreans undead and in her control.
>>96434430I already did anon, believe me. One of the first things I'm doing once I step in Malkuth is making a beeline to her bed chambers.
>>96434448Here https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObgmLnSo5yEod3g8r08FV_4Hc72s4RHK?sort=13&direction=a
>>96434448There's a link to the imgchest that covers all the drive stuff too. But yeah, Inga Yesod's one of your potential companions who pretended to be the 8th Outisder and then got her shit kicked in by Erginter.
Most of the 1 point companions turned out to be secretly goated, so can someone sell Polkan to me?
>>96434464Oh, right, thanks. I didn't catch that part in her background.
>>96434422Inga Yesod may be an imposter, but with all the bullshit she was able to pull off, she may as well be a Honorary Outsider.
>>96434471>pretended to be the 8th Outisder and then got her shit kicked in by Erginter.The only good deed Erginter did in her life desu.
>>96432010False. Soul is everything people with amnesia are still the same dude. If you forget what you ate this morning you are still you. Memories are not you.
>>96434375Well the Empire seems to follow an agnatic-cognatic primogeniture where any legitimate male claim is higher than any legitimate female claim, but where females CAN inherit. So the legitimate succession order outside of any mitigating factors would probably be:Iwnn > Any child of Iwnn (including with Zwa) > Zwa > Any child of Zwa (except with Iwnn) > The three stooges in birth order > Kaliopa (as the child of the blonde one.) The only reason there is a succession crisis is 1) Iwnn is sickly and can't rule himself. 2) The stooges maneuvered or were maneuvered into a regency position, giving them de-facto rulership and allowing them to fuck over Zwa despite her superior claim 3) Zwa had a child out of wedlock, which the stooges used as an excuse to punish her under their brother's name. But this is all very shaky political maneuvering, which is why the three are trying so hard to kill Zwa and the baby Outsider, because they know she has the superior claim, is superior at rulership and combat, and that their authority is shaky. All Zwa needs is enough political support at home and suddenly the stooges' proclamation that she's disinherited is completely obviated. Since Iwnn IS destined to die soon, the stooges ARE destined to die right after, and Zwa IS destined to bring war to them for being incompetent, the only practical barrier to you inheriting the empire as her child (with Iwnn or not) is Kaliopa herself.
Would (You) have survived if you were the 9th instead of Charlie and Erginter didn't go after Xian?
>>96434478You are guaranteed to not just wander around Mamet, but find a lot of interesting shit.And since you are fated to properly finish the expedition, you can visit all those ancient eldritch death temples with your All-Glimpse without accidentally getting Dirked.
>>96434481There's a few natives that are world-shakers on their own, like Rhucuphre.
>>96434486Inga did nothing wrong.
>>96434478>uncovering potentially useful secrets of forbidden historyYou get to go on a cool adventure across the world and potentially unlock key pieces against 0^0.
>>96434505I still disagree. Partial loss of memories just makes you "lesser", just as life experience makes you "greater". But total loss of memories make you "not you anymore"
>>96434456Yes. You are building your rival who while start up friendly can potentially mess up your Encounters, turn hostile and (like Blazhko) forces you to pick Death Letters to characters you pick for him as said by Tankista.
>>96434507I would have survived easily because I would have given Erginter a shitty death and myself something that she couldn't trigger.
>>96434507I probably would have just stayed out of her way.
>>96434478You're going to find all kinds of crazy shit. You might get the Ark of the Covenant or something, go wild.
>>96434241This was a lot funnier in my head
>>96434481Don't talk to me about outsider greatness until one of them becomes an Elder God. Until then, they'll always be below Mithra.
>>96434507Erginter went after Yphont and Xian took revenge on her for this.I would stay hidden or joined Yphont and/or Xian in case Erginter was still around. Given a chance I would also give her death letter (assuming I can add to the one she already picked).
>>96434573Erginter was on the offensive, actually. Xian was going for Inga's notes when she attacked him.
>>96434568I laughed.
>>96434571Mithra was only able to become an Elder God because of One "GOAT" Bob.And One wanted to ascend as well but decided to stick around instead because he's a cool guy,
>>96434568I smiled a little. Good job.
I dont like CYOA that use anime art. Its icky and disgusting.
I dont like CYOA that don't use anime art. Its icky and disgusting.
>>96434601Ok.Anyway...
I don't like CYOAs.
i don't like
I don't like...
Which male companion/mentor/father is the most fuckable?
>>96434627>subtly sneaking father in thereI know what you are
I will post my 10 pager OC when things calm down, but right now I kneel for the schlop frenzy.
>>96434627Iwnn Aureole, Taexx.
>>96434636I can turn him into a mentor or companion. The answer is Iakowe so I can cuck 0^0
>>96434647at least tell us what's it about
>>96434647The new theead is pretty calm while they argue about the current OC. Post it there before we get there.
>>96434655Its about being reincarnated in a fantasy world. Its okay. You wouldn't understand.
>>96434648You have a fetish for the sickly types?
>>96434627Lu'ut
I saw a CYOA once. I was like I've stepped in shit with my eyes. Disgusting. That day I clawed out my eyes. I have been blind since and am writing this with text-to-speech. Clawing out my eyes was actually the worst decision of my life and this is a cautionary tale, Don't become like me.
>>96434667I better get to be a cute winged race
>>96434667>Its about being reincarnated in a fantasy world. do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
>>96434680Dirk irl
>>96434647There's like 1100 AD OCs waiting for the Outer Reincarnation obsession to finally end.
>>96434627Pantorei
>>96434589>>What exactly happened as Erginter was taken over by Aat/Xian, and went on to challenge the elder gods and the script, and then commited suicide? Why did Aat/Xian go on to challenge the elder gods? And why did they commit suicide after? Was it because the suicide came from Xian's "Yat" that was given to him by Yphont from long ago when he was her companion? So Erginter's death letter triggered first, and Xian's death letter triggered after. And perhaps Xian knew that since his death letter was delayed in order to resolve Erginter's death letter, his own long ago death letter of Yat was near, and so he was prompted to go challenge the elder gods before his death was dealt? But then he failed and the three pillars gazed before him as he killed himself through him realizing there was no hope and ended his story and played to his fate?>There are two ways to interpret this story.>The first is that the villainous Demon Lord Xian set his eyes on becoming a god and charged forward to get the notes to Empyreality, and reformed Erginter earnestly did everything she could to prevent him from getting his hands on the notes of Inga Yesod she kept.>The second is that the anti-hero Xian went on to prevent the bloodthirsty murderer of his friend from utilizing the notebook.>Or anything in between these two stories.Tankista's answer on reddit.Since we know Xian wasn't really a villain and his main goal was to save his sister (Bal) so the second reading has more merit to it.Pretty sure notes are the ones we get in Dream Bigger and Higher.
>>96434698Erginter, why were you such a bitch?What was your problem?
The reason OR is still dominating discussion because there's nothing else to talk about. Post your new OCs, you cowards.
>>96434716Everyone's afraid their OC will get drowned out and overshadowed.
>>96434627On looks alone>Amalrich>Mor>Sigard >Sext>Esu>Gunter
>>96434716There's OC in the new thread, >>96432931
>>96434716It's because OR is genuinely good and has enough choice and worldbuilding that you can actually have discussions about itMost CYOAs don't have enough information/content/choice to have more than maybe one thread's worth of meaningful discussion.
>>96434696The first one to post their oc after OR will be remembered for their sacrifice.
>>96434730>>96434741>>96434750>Replying to bait
>>96434627If I was a straight girl I'd want Arsak to get me pregnant over and over again.
>>96434766>Just post your OC >BaitRetard?
>>96434677Ywnn is king. Taexx has Ethereal Beauty.
>>96434741oh snap I thought this anon >>96434647 was talking about this cyoa >>96432931 but then you just showed me it was already out
after a week of simmering on it, i will begin drafting my OR outer tide build and will post it after a few hoursplease don't be mean about it, you guys
>>96434770If I was a straight girl I'd tell you have good taste and wish you luck.
>>96434740*XetFreudian slip
>>96434811I only respect singleplayer builds. All multiplayer is trash.
>>96434841You didn't respect mine ):
>>96434846You don't really expect me to respect someone who chose Keter, do you?
>>96434627Murzik and Pur are cute
>>96434841well when i post it you can copy it to a notepad and delete the outer tide perk out, if it helps in any way, it's not like i have had the time to look at any other builds so i don't really know what hat kind of hat i'm throwing my ring into
Can fairies have sex without using diminishment?
>>96434850You don't understand I CAN FIX HER
>>96434811I'm sure it will be wonderful
>>96434867Yeah, with me :(
>>96434850JNPL mother with Keter (dice fudge) and One as your adoptive parents is the best choice.
>>96434089Learning Benewhisper and Simplified Duergar as a polyglot turns the Uruk events into superior Burn the x events.
>>96434885This anon gets it. I didn't choose mother but One + Keter raising the 11th is the best and soulful combo.
>>96434812If I was a straight girl again I'd thank you and try to hook you up with a man you wanted so we could be pregnant at the same time, then our children could be best friends or even eventually become straight lovers if they were of opposite gender.
>>96434897If I was a straight girl I'd be okay with this.
>>96434897I am glad people like you aren't straight girls
>>96434891Keter dicefudge is the exact opposite of soul. It's boring munchkinry.
>>96434889You can take burn the X as many times as you want, but you only get a few Uruk eventsAlthough at that point you have more points than you can usefully spend, I think.
>>96434915That's only if you refund languages
>>96434915She provides good information and combined with One can get her back on her feet and earn a redemption arc. Having former Outsiders working together is sweet and makes for a good story all the elder gods can enjoy and support.
How much do you balance between power and personal preference when playing CYOAs?Personally I lean towards power but I still try to pick up some things I want along the way. I’m always tempted to just select things that I personally like, but forgoing strong options just for fluff feels just as bad as the opposite.
>>96434913
>>96434932Same anon here but I chose Keter before the language gimmick was well known. Infact, I was the one that asked if all her languages counted and Tank told me yes. I genuinely just wanted her because of what she knew and that she's an Outsider as well.
>>96434935Once I have enough power to live It's all things I likeBefore that, surviving is the thing I like most
I just like the idea of knowing all the languagesI didn’t even refund them or anything
>>96434935I only pick power if there is a threat I can't avoid in the setting, otherwise I choose based on comfy life and aesthetic appearance.
I have to confess. Every single my build had Keter in it. Love her.
>>96434965Magic is based on language in this world, even the insolar text explains what type of spells you can learn from it. The more language you have, the more opportunities for learning more spells and gaining more power.
>>96434972Confess again with better grammar
It disgusts me that I share a board with all these Keter lovers.
>>96434987No.
You can have the best of both worlds with living forever and death by just using Ielziaseh's method really slowly as an undead. That's essentially just normal forgetting and changing as a person. As for Pukluxun, you're at war, use it on the people you're killing anyway. In civil times do it via necromancy as a funerary rite. Chosen individual gives the subject their final death. I had one idea to do it not via blood, but to extract the built up Meaning in a soul. Essentially sending them back to the start of their journey of reincarnation, a bit like how new outsiders are. Works best on Ecumenites since they don't want meaning in general away, it's looser, easier to extract.
>>96434987Confess I have. Keter single every build love her in it.
>>96434994It's time to move on Tam.
>>96434994I will fix her.
>>96434972simping for Outsider women is riskythey could've been a man on earth with filthy man memories of jerking off and taking huge dumps
>>96434332Actually if you pick the Exarchate or Malkuth then the three stooges can be your ally especially if you plan to marry Kalliope. After all they are the ones who are trying to play nice with foreign countries to build a anti ecumene alliance. They are just dummies. But a smart outsider can help their goals succeed.
>>96435000That’s one thing you would never actually have to say to Tam.
I foresee many true love anons ending up like Keter and Tam
>>96434418No it's just anime style. Also Jdan's age is subject to debate as he time travels backwards into his young body. Imagine Subaru if at the end of the life he had with Rem he went all the way back to the start that's Jdan right now. So yeah I get why he's not happy.
>>96432492Don't because they are a lich chad.
>Giving redeemed Keter Everlasting via Encounter makes her superior to OmegaAgree or disagree?
>>96435044Agree. She can help take out 0^0
>>96435044>Everlasting EncounterI think I remember Tankista saying it wouldn't work on other Empyreans and Omega's a special case
>>96435044Keter is a loser.
>>96434935>powerIrrelevant if I'm having fun. I will ignore all exploits, optimal strategies or overpowered options if I feel a particular combo/story resonate with me more.
Isn't it ironic that Keter ended up creating a true kuudere with her true love who she mistakenly believed to be a kuudere herself.
>>96435044Omega is cuter though.
>>96435058Is ??? a true kuudere?
>>96435021It would still be a fun journey. No regrets.
>>96435058We don't actually know about ???'s personality that much.
>>96435058There’s nothing to suggest that ??? is dere. We just know she has a resilient spirit of iron.
>>96435073Do you really think she wouldn't hold her arms open with a blank expression before slightly frowning as she gets impatient for you to hug her?She has the autism of Thaumiel and the dorkiness of Keter in a cute mute package.
>Brat who was handed free powers and control over fate gives up on everything the first time she experiences failure>Stunted mute who was abandoned by her parents as a child will NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDERSeriously, anons. Keter fucking sucks. If you want to support someone who’s been suffering, ??? actually deserves it.
>>96435109I have both on my party. I will reconcile these two.
>>96435118Oyakodan...
>>96435103No. I think she would have severe issues with intimacy and wouldn’t be a cute waifu.
??? is a proof that Tam still has feelings for Katya. If not then why did she throw ??? out?
>>96435109I dunno, dying a thousand times and having to invent ways to reinterpret a torrent of red letters Charlie sent her way mid battle to avoid final fated death sounds like a just cause to mope.
>>96435141Because she’s a selfish person who doesn’t want to spend her time on a child she doesn’t care about.
>>96435141>Abandoning a child together is proof you still love each otherAnon?
>>96435109Keter has good information to give and if redeemed, can become a stong ally in the fight.
>>96435109I like her since she gives me a neat trick. She could be an absolute monster and I would still defend her.
>>96435166>could be
>>96435159It's a proof that she still cares. It's stated that they dropped her because she reminded them about each other. If Tam truly didn't care about Katya anymore, that couldn't happen.
>>96435171Not my problem.
>>96434994I WILL fix her.
>abandoning your 11 year old child with your true lovePeople who true love either Keter or Thaumiel are fucking retarded.
>>96435192Real, I'll redeem them with my pure charisma. No fate fuckery needed.
I will always be a proud member of the “We hate Keter” club.
>>96435192I can fix them!
>>96435192Preach it, brother.
>>96435177It doesn’t prove that at all. If Thaumiel disliked Keter now it would provide the same justification.
>>96435226Love or hate doesn't matter. She still cares.
>>96435141>>96435177>>96435227Katya, go back to fighting Charlotte and stop posting on 4chan. Maybe you can graduate from being the biggest joke of the Outsiders this time.
I am slightly above neutral when it comes to Keter.She tried her best, but it just wasn't good enough.I'm just disappointed that she's still given up even after all the years she's had to grieve and recover.
By the way, do you understand that ??? lost her parents at the same time as Orthrung was blown up, at the same time that Keter started her Dark Souls battle and Thaumiel left her? They didn't really throw ??? out of home. They both just didn't try to find her.
It's crazy how overpriced Autoantecedence is.
>>96435240>I'm just disappointed that she's still given up even after all the years she's had to grieve and recover.This is where One shows up on her doorstep and handles her (you) to breastfeed.
>>964352485 AP plus 1-5 AP for another instance of a given gift is really expensive, but it’s also fairly strong.
>One>Keter>(you)This would be the most awkward family ever. Both of them are outsiders and both of them know (you) are an outsider.
>>96435244>They both just didn't try to find her.lol what? Did Thaumiel give up on her immediately after Keter broke up with her?
>>96435244The text explicitly says they abandoned her.
>>96434486I disagree, Inga didn't do anything objectively evil, all she was doing was unifying the continent under her empire. That's pretty normal. Hell, she managed to take the Old Throne cleverly with zero bloodshed. Her only mistake was that she did it pretending to be the 8th Seat, and Erginter was a seething prideful retard. If she had done this while pretending to be the 11th the only thing I'd beat up for her impertinence is her pussy.
>>96435268>Keter has to breastfeed Eleventh>He's not breaking eye contact.Probably worse for her. Deserved, though.
>>96435268Don't forget to Never Alone Savmak as well.
>>96435272That's not a contradiction. >>96435269They abandoned her at 11. She's 31. So they abandoned her 20 years ago when Orthrung got wiped off the map.
If your fuckup destroyed a continent and probably doomed everything in the long run, how long would you spend moping?
>>96435244Even if your interpretation is correct that doesn’t make them any better. They’re both vile.
>>96435268It'll be a fun one. I'll catch them up on what's been going on earth, hear about who they were before they were chosen an ask what the outsider system was like in their time and all the choices they had.
>>96435294I wouldn’t mope at all because I took based Reks as a mentor.
>>96435305>roll with the punches bro, we've got more continents!
>>9643529450 years while doing what I can to make things better and fix things, even if that's impossible
>>96435311Hell yeah. We’re getting back on that saddle!
Do any of the elves actually blame Keter for Charlie blowing up their continent?
>>96435274Furthermore when she had a chance to be the boss of a bunch of evil liches she just killed them instead.
>>96434627That's a hard question because OR doesn't have any femboys/traps. So going purely on looks it has to be Pir.
Let's be real. Charlie would have done it even without Keter's plan. Sooner or later, one way or another.
Did Erginter manage to accomplish a single good deed in her life?
>>96435324I think the elves were already aware that 0^0 was planning for Total Elf Death before the fight, so it wouldn’t make sense for them to blame Keter.
>>96435294One down, four to go!
>>96435342Her existence was necessary for your cute dragon daughter.
>>96434965Same but it's just not worth the costs and missing out on polyglot bonuses.
>>96435341Well of course. She's written to be this way because she doesn't exist. Only the 11th Outsider is the real Outsider. The first 10 were prototype characters to make way for the true One
If your Outsider isn't an elf then you're not playing it properly
>>96435357Ah, yes. True Drakonic Solipsism under another mask. How dull.
Combining Inga with that one mentor who teaches you how to teach is really expensive but pretty good in that Inga is the foremost expert on undeath and empyreality held back only by her being shit at teaching. Teach her to teach and she can teach you both.
My memory is hazy, where was it written why Charlie was able to blow up all of Orthrung and why she cannot do it again?
>>96435366Elves are boring. They get what, pointy ears? Might as well be human.
>>96435380Greatest of Yus encounter?
>>96435366Pixie is fine too. Pu'un is the best mother.
>>96435324I don't think they blame Keter so much as they resent that they all died and Charlotte STILL isn't dead. So if they hate Keter it's probably for her giving up, first and foremost.
>>96435347But my outsider is a girl and does not get a cute daughter, only granny bad-touch Thaumiel.
>>96435395Pu'un is cute but I was sadly already set on a mother and Luut is the absolute fucking worst. Good bait for Adoption if you want a dad who stepped up I guess.
i'm 5 ancestry points and 18 destiny points overdrafted on a caster buildwould it be too silly to get rid of both magician's hands and taking two missed shapes for both arms and then using burn the past a bunch of times or nah? i don't want to get rid of the ahoge
>>96435369“True” draconic solipsism is a crude imitation, a poor strawman levied against this fiction-shattering trvke. The 11th, symbolized by AzAz, is the first of firsts, the new beginning, and the only one.This world is a story, its people, its laws, its history, and its gods were written for the 11th and the 11th alone. All of it crafted in service of the one true outsider.
>>96435466what the fuck kind of caster build are you making
>>96435466>magician's handsIt's a trap option. Don't spam the same shit over and over again, just use different spells instead.
>>96435482Based True Dragon
>>96435466Please stop taking mentors, reflect and think of your core build idea (i.e. how do you want to influence the setting) and cut it down to the bare minimum for that to be achieved, then you can start adding extras.
Most mentors are better than most gifts.
>>96435482So this is what they called a DBZspic...
>>96435506Sure but nobody cares about walking on water or whatever. They want the gifts that let you become 100% stronger for every friend you have, or see into the fabric of reality
>>96435483>>96435497my mentors are eirina, kilyn, zlata, natalja, nezvana and leimeie, all untimeskippeddraw your own conclusions>>96435486robot hands it is, but i'm still two destiny points short, eye for shadows and the ahoge might need to go
>>96435486Magician's hands are still good, just maybe a bit overpriced.
>>96435515Remove the untimeskips
>>96435515>all untimeskipped???Just learn some shit yourself, retard
>>96435506Gifts are available immediately, you don't have to wait. And gifts are much more explicitly described; buying a mentor is a buying a pig in a poke. But other than that yeah.
>>96435515>those magic specializationsBro, just pick the one you like the most and if you really want to, make your own specialty. Charlotte did it with mathemagic before her ascension, you can do it too.
>>96435524>>96435530getting all the shit downloaded into your brain from birth and then getting to compare what you were fated to learn with the mentor now as a companion is like two and a half times more knowledge than you would have otherwise gotten, i find it worth it
>>96435513fuck you walking on water is great.Be the next Jesus. Or just never get your shoes wet because you can just walk over a river instead of wading on through.
>>96435539If you have all glimpse and mental gifts you probably already going to exhaust what most have to teach in months at most.
>>96435515>-12 on untimeskips>Why am I out of points?You're only likely to learn more from untimeskip if the mentor is holding back information.
>>96435513This dude gets his feet wet.
>>96435539You find it worth it yet you are in debt with points. Might as well pick up blessings of [SRTR]
>>96435545The opportunity cost is too much. If it didn't take up leg slots it'd be fine.
>>96435571>legletI see the issue now. You're just physically underdeveloped... I'm so sorry for your loss...
>Be a pixie>Take triple entrenchment>Always stand on the ground, or lowerCan anything hurt me?
>>96435584Yeah, me kicking you in the head like I'm scoring a soccer goal and killing you instantly.
>>96435380She had an amalgamation of Demon Lords who tried to posses her that was similar to the True Dragon Amalgamation. Thanks to that not being her fated death and her Yrde teachings she managed to turn the amalgam into a bomb. To forge it again she would need to have an army of demon lord's merge into one through mass sacrifices and manage to trap it again.Xian and his demons were slowly going the True Dragon route so I'm sure that the one who decided to rebel against the gods was ultimately him with a bit of Erginter.
What's the best leg gift for a pure caster?The obvious choice is Kneeling Twilight, but I don't think it's that useful if you already have all glimpse.
>>96435584>pixie with 3x entrenchment and 2x mitigating grip
>>96435603Dream Passage >>>>>>>>>> Shadow Footwork > Whatever else
>>96435342Inga was going the Charlie route early. It's good she stopped her then. And going through the timeline she really became less bloodthirsty the more time passed. Xian was ultimately the one who attacked her while he could have been happy trying to bring his sister back. What we don't know is if she knew or cared that she released the Uruk horde back into the world.
>>96435616Dream passage is probably the best for magic/plot purposes, yes.I would probably pick flowing gait over shadow footwork though. It's a lot cheaper and almost as good in pure defense, while having more versatility.
>>96435628Xian (Aat) probably wanted revenge after she killed Yphont, who was his friend
>erginter's plan was to kill other earthlingswhat a slimy little bitchlet
>>96435647You'd do the same thing. All tides end the same way.
>>96435641
>>96435616>>96435632I think people overstimate what Dream Passage does. Sure, understanding dreams is 'good' if you want to fuck up the world more, but it's still a one point gift whose only direct benefit is related to dungeons. Nowhere does it imply it will make you the dream shaper that will forge the nightmare into a weapon.
Can dreamers name one good thing that came from anyone messing with dreams? The nightmare's already destroyed half the world.
>>96435641He only went after her when he found out about the Inga notes, like 50 years after Yphont was killed. It may have been partially as revenge but I doubt that was the only reason.
>>96435669maybe you can fix the nightmare?
>baby with all glimpseimagine taking care of an infant that can't sleepKeter is NOT gonna have a good time
What was the "Prime Site" in Orthrung?
>>96435676>m-maybe you can fix the nightmare!Maybe you can pour BLUE DOOM all over the surface of the fucking PLANET HUH??? Let's just all stay awake.
>>96435669??? cuteness is more valuable than any apocalypse. I will flood the world with my cute demon nightmares babies.
>>96435656I assumed people wanted to combine it with other dreamstuff like Thaumiel.
>>96435669Well think about it this way, how are you going to solve the nightmare without dream powers?
>>96435669I believe the whole dream and nightmare thing is part of YMRD’s “everyone ascends all at once” plan.
>>96435698Their capital. Technically their second one, the first was Teladushi or whatever on Tsoshu, the giant country-sized megacity, but it got destroyed in the First Midnight War (happened so long ago it's not in the timeline.)
>>96435628Maybe it was more like>"Holy shit, the mad bitch who killed Yphont also ganked Inga, and she probably has the notes now">"I ABSOLUTELY cannot allow this mad dragon get even a chance to perform False Ascent"
>>96435770Sounds like another plotline for the 12th to focus on, don't pull a Sarmat
>>96435750I mean, I did that because my whole build was about creating nightmare monsters, that's why I picked Esu as a companion. But most people just seem to think it is amazing for regular mages when nothing implies it is or that it will help them at all in their plans. Those two points could be better wasted on other more generally useful skills.
>>96435808I'm choosing to be the 12th's waifu for lack of better death letters so technically we're solving this plotline together.
>>96435669Not my problem. Acquire waifus.
>>96435784It's a weird name for a city, it sounds like 'a place where something important happened' kind of name
>>96435890I agree, but that's what it is.
>>96435890This and That are also city names.
>>96435948Southlanders are autistic.
>Mithra asked One to assign him a specific deathHow could that have even happened? Did the gods let him write his own entry in the Outsider System?
>>96435816I picked it to rescue Aat's sister from Dorina seal, break into SRTR's toybox, invade the midnight point and slay the True Dragons within the nightmare bloodbourne style, and check if Ytorusha is sane enough to consider freeing. Also just Dungeon exploring hijinks.
>>96426654Bad news
>>96435954It's a little like the time when they listened to Katie's ruminations on the possibility that she will be on the receiving end of the True Love perk. Or when they told One's thoughts in the same manner to Vtorusha.
Do you think if you met the qualifications to ascend in your next life but you actively refused to die and get it over with because "That wouldn't be me" the Elder Gods would get mad at you?
>>96436011No, they would respect that. See Sarmat.
>he didn't pick Alisa>he isn't Erumaxxingngmi
>>96436019Sarmat didn't ascend and he didn't reject death or ascension, he rejected getting to live longer.
>>96436011Nothing wrong with sticking around for an epilogue, I think. As long as you don't push it past the point of tiredness...
>>96436019Did Sarmat actually earn anything? He just killed all the bad ends with fate and then gaslit himself into personality death as his assumed persona.
>>96436011The gods seem to be accepting of most things you could do. They clearly liked all their Outsiders before Erginter, even Vtorusha.
>>96436033Greater Yus is literally just character development, that's why everyone gives it to their family or waifus.
>>96436033>gaslit himself into personality deathThe things you people believe.
>>96436036I gave it to a mentor.
>>96436036I gave it to Keter
>>96436021Who?
>>96435954It's possible that he didn't need the gods involvement. He was the champion of mankind with Ikona Ikon, and on the verge of ascension. Who knows what he was capable of?
What actually happens when you meet your death with Iotated Greater Yus? Is it a physical process? Or just the souls?What happens if you do Iotated Lesser Yus into Iotated Greater Yus?
>>96436042The conversation over the past few days has me convinced that people here are so self-obsessed that they view literally any change or growth as personality deathWhich, you know, explains a lot about all the author drama shit that happens during content droughts.
>>96436084I think it's disingenuous to compare 'literally any change' to 'you die and your identity is erased'.
>>96436074>What happens if you do Iotated Lesser Yus into Iotated Greater Yus?You get one hell of a story to tell everyone else.
>>96435816Well for 1 point, you get;>Full access to all Dungeons in the world and their loot >A superior hideout in case you want to lay low for a while.>Perfect lucid dreaming so can practice both martial and magical pursuits.>The foundation needed to acquire mastery of dreams and nightmares from mentors.>The ability to intrude on others dreams, which in itself has endless potential applications.>Perhaps one of the few ways you can give Empyreans true death.I say the hype is warranted.
>>96436084We live in a world of cherv'
>>96436084Greater Yus is delayed Az for the player. Is Az character development? Only in the sense of the Elder Gods maybe.
>>96436109I'd take Az but erasing meta knowledge and knowledge of earth tech is too much to give up.
>>96436087Greater Yus doesn't involve physical death. It's literally just reinventing yourself.
>>96436109They're not the same at all.
>>96436033>Sarmat takes advantage of the outsider system to stop being a huge dick>Anons interpret this as death
>Greater Yus + Zhivetehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UENxZiDpPFA
>>96436084You what's the funniest part about those stupid "muh ego death" arguments? they complain about changing personality and whatnot but see absolutely no issue in modifying their brains with mental gifts. Also if we go by their retarded logic, just the simple act of playing OR and getting isekaied constitutes as true death because "le continuity" is "le severed" lmao.
>>96436121I wasn't talking about Greater Yus, but the>conversation over the past few daysYou referred to.
>>96436109Iotated Az is delayed Az. It's sudden and immediate. Greater Yus is gradual and continuous and you can influence it's direction.
>>96436142I want to change as a person but I both want to have control over how I change, and wish to maintain continuity with who I was, rather than break it.
>>96436131You know, Savmak was a bit like Light.
>>96436151stop being autistic and learn to enjoy things
>Have a second character I don't want to die/suffer personality death>Don't want to give her Yee because reincarnating still means her having to put up with reliving childhood and she may be reborn as a moid or something>Can't get a second Zhivete without changing my parentsThis sucks
Lesser Yus is arguably a buff. Two streams of consciousness is strong on its own, but in a world where you can cast magic just by thinking...
Why taking Keter with True Love doesn't count as "enjoying things"?
>>96436151Your continuity as a conscious entity is broken every time you go to sleep.
>>96436158Why would someone enjoy death?
>>96436142>"le continuity" is "le severed"The intro literally says you retain memory bruv.
>>96436162Take Jdan for additional controlled Yees and Zemlyas.
>>96436166Your brain never ceases functioning during sleep, retard. Consciousness =/= wakefulness.
>>96436166Doesn't count as you wake up the same.
>>96436163Imagine risks of constantly doublecasting with your Enochian Brand.
>>96436172Jdan doesn't give you Yees or Zemlayas? I also don't want to apply Zemlaya to her because as we saw from Savmak that can backfire.
>>96436163That depends if your two personalities will be friends or enemies.
>>96436178You don't need enochian brand to cast magic in your head, it's the just easy/low skill route.
>>96436168I believe that eating ice cream is death. The you before eating ice cream and afterwards are not the same. You are you without ice cream. Adding ice cream makes you stop being you, because ice-creamless you no longer exists.How could people possibly like eating ice cream?! They are literally killing themselves!
>>96436175
>>96436180You will qualify for the Encounters that give them. Like Respawn Point for Yee which gives the Character a Majin Template or the Malkuth one where they are undead.You could also pay 3/3 and make them everlasting.
>>96436193>food analogyIn this case, we aren't eating icecream, just imagining a fictional scenario in which eating icecream is an option.
>>96436180Jdan gives you access to Respawning Point and Dark and Stormy Night, and helps ensure they turn out optimally.
>>96436193People have given you long, reasoned arguments why they dislike personality death for over 12 years at this point, being disingenuous doesn't change that.
>>96436195>Anon has just now discovered that words can have multiple definitions
>top>Iotated Lesser Yus>bottom>Iotated Greater Yus
>>96436210Yeah, nice fucking backpedaling, dipshit.
>>96436200But fiction or not, eating ice-cream is still death. It being an option doesn't matter.
>>96436171Even still, is that really "You" from earth? or did the elder gods just copy your memories and implant them in a new vessel? You already know the answer, but since you refuse to believe in souls I'll just use your stupid rhetoric against you.
pretty sure you don't even lose those memories and personality, they're just locked until (you) ascend
>>96436197>>96436202Oh I see what you mean. I already applied an encounter to them though sadly.
What would Az+Yee do?
>>96436216>Basic element of language is now 'backpedaling'
>>96436226I keep seeing people say this, but what is the evidence?
>>96436220Souls don't normally retain memories, anon.
It's interesting that the letters that appeared after 0^0's false ascent are the only ones that aren't described by 0^0.
>>96436232The Nameless One experience.
>>96434009Yeah. Most are too embarassing to show this thread though.
>>96436232You reincarnate in another body while your original op outsider body lives your destined life for you. The ultimate cuck option.
>>96436232You die at birth and are reincarnated as a random with no memories or special gifts.Why you would do this, I have no clue.
>>96436236I was the one who used the word conscious.You were the one who told me I don't know what it means.But that is what it meant.Eat shit.
>>96436238It's the entire fucking point of the reincarnation system
>>96436246I realized that you're talking about Planescape and not Convention but let's ask another question: Is it personality death if your self insert PC turns into an NPC with an established personality?
>>96436257It means more than one thing, anon. You'd think you could understand that when that's one of the key features of the God-Script in OR, the CYOA we're discussing.
>>96436249I ain't falling for this one.
>>96436260Memories and personality have nothing to do with the system.
>>96436271>Limbus brainrotYou have more pressing issues to deal with.
>>96436249That's the kind of thing that should be in the rentry for posterity. Got more?
>>96436240These should be letters, assigned to gods themselves. Charlie wants to go home. JNPL is dead. SRTR is in toybox. YMRD is working on actually destroying the world and resetting it. YMRD is backing Pandemonium now.
>>96436296Why are Pandaemonium staffed by Vocaloids?
>>96436301The vocaloid fan > schizo pipeline is helping the Pandemonium agenda.
Idk why isekaifags who had a horrible life on Earth are so eager to go backMakes no sense
>>96436331Charlotte could've been a rich fuck as far as we know.
>>96436331Katya was the one with the shit life.
>>96436331Because once given great power and control over their own destiny they managed to fuck it up harder than they ever could have on Earth.
>>96436331If you don't have an horrible life on Earth, leaving your friends, family, dogs and more behind isn't going to be pleasant.
>>96436301We all love Miku here.
>>96436352H-Haha... couldn't be me... right bros?
>>96436301Cute evil is more attractive than horrid evil
>>96436232I'd run it as Az happening normally, and then at some point your soul reincarnates with both sets of memories at once. Each life feels equally real.
>>96436304Assuming Charlie really had a good life and didn't find the appeal of the reincarnation, it's possible she tried to give herself a good story but every set back and failure just made her miss home more and more. As in, she doesn't seem to be happy being a goddess, it's possible she would genuinely leave everything at the chance to go back just as it is likely she would convince herself her revenge and spite take priority.
>>96436331The thing about this particular cyoa is (you) already died on earth to get here. Your life was already over. I can only assume Charlie had just gotten a promotion, just got engaged and won the lottery before she got truck-kun'd to make her so adamant about going back. Still, she would likely have to be reborn as a new person if she went back to earth or rise as a zombie.
>1351 poststf is this power
So… are there computers in OR? Did Vtorusha invent any? There is that one warmachina companion, but that seems to be something else entirely(?)Anyways, it would be pretty easy to program a computer to store and replay god script on command. Would that work? The dwarves store god script in runes, but can an entity without a soul cast a god script spell? And could you do it repeatedly (barring any loss of meaning), or just once for the one time you input it?
>>96436519Power of "hidden" lore and autism.
>>96436528I think there is a warmachine that's able to cast spells without needing to know their meaning. So you can just load it up and pew pew
>>96436530Considering how bad a lot of people are at reading, the lore might as well count as hidden.
>>96436538You still have to know the meaning of the spell yourself though, yeah?Otherwise you could monkey with a typewriter your way into some bullshit op spells.
>>96436528It might not be possible to make computers as we know them. The world doesn’t run on the same physics as ours, and Vtorusha might have made them if she could. 0^0 is making the world’s physics more like ours now but she doesn’t know real physics deeply.
>>96436538You know that there's a whole kind of magic that doesn't have a Meaning economy.
>>96436571Computers, at their most basic level, don't run on very complicated physics.Something that just records and outputs set strings could be replicated entirely mechanically.Obviously you probably aren't going to be having chatGPT cast your spells, or possibly not even making microprocessors at all, but still.
>>96436558True. More schemes for me.
>>96436571I always imagined that mathemagics was designed around a half-remembered intro to CS class that Charlotte was taking on earth before she kicked it
>>96436606That’s true. But it’s possible that the gods have weird, specific conditions set that block very specific outcomes while still allowing others to take place by similar principles. That may seem like a weak argument to you but I think it should be considered along with the fact that Vtorusha pushed the boundaries of what was possible wherever she could. But of course that was before 0^0 started making edits, so things that weren’t possible then are now. So perhaps is more room for such things than I first suggested.
>>96436528Sell me on the usefulessness of computers inside OR.
>>96436687Vtorusha was making magic mechas, she's not a successful example of earth physics working.
>>96436698Computation. Literally just the same things we use computers for already. Mathemagic too I suppose.
>page 10Time to move to the NEW (old) THREAD:>>96432931>>96432931>>96432931
>>96436698You could send Charlotte rude emails.
>>96436519Threadmaker anon abandoned us along with most of the oldfags now.
>>96436755Making new threads before it reached the end of the catalog was never a good thing anyway.
>>96436780Someone did so anyway and linked it here, people just kept talking here instead because they had no reason to move. That guy's shitpost narrative doesn't even hold up.
>>96436698Imagine you have a staff, and on it are a number of rotating rings. The face of each ring is inscribed with a letter of the god script, or some phrase in god script. Each ring can rotate to form different complete phrases in combination with the other rings, and each ring can form a complete phrase in itself and/or in combination with the other rings, depending on the direction in which you read it. Like a magic Scrabble stick. Would be cool to have a weapon that changes properties based on how you’ve set the rings.That’s an example of a very simple mechanical “computer”, but on the more complicated side you could also store spells for later on-demand use, quickly chain different spells, set conditionals for your spells, do loops, etc. Basically all the fun things you can do with programming. Or you could just compute things. I’m sure someone somewhere could make use of an artillery computer.
>>96436794>>96436723Meh.Like, I get why this is useful and whatnot, but it's not seducing me.Then again I'm a CS major in real life, so I'm probably against it by default.
Does spamming a word only make it lose meaning for (you), or does that also apply to other people in the vicinity?If I spam fireball until it's meaningless, can someone else still cast a full strength fireball?
Hmmm, assuming Toybox, what do you think the best choice (barring keter's language fuckery), for a daemonhost caster's second adoptive parent is?
>>96436881*First and second
>>96436881>toybox>adoptive parentWhoever is cheapest and gets you the languages you want. That's about it.
look of chaos is easily the most underrated gift, especially considering we know that charlie counts as a living/sapient being for the purpose of other magical effects
>>96437014It's how I'll beat Rhucuphere, Nilmatrix, and 0^0
>>96437014It’s actually Unburnt Hide for its secret exploit. Not many people have noticed it yet.
>>96436240I don't have Outer Reincarnation up, but they could refer to a permanent breakdown of the setting.Xi - the goddesses divide up the world, and thus have no need for Outsiders, as they no longer interact with each other. (You) are dumped back on Earth like a returned Amazon.com packageTheta - the Outsider system collapses. People are brought in as "true" isekais, rather than reincarnated. Alternately, the universe devolves into a VR/video game construct, and "Outsiders" are now just players, with some cosmic number crunching system handling the skills they've "learned". The goddesses are locked out, and replaced by NPC chatbotsIzhista - pretty self-explanatory. Universe is unmade, and every single possibility is back on the table
>>96437132I don't see any exploit...