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>>96432931Ok Anons, let me give you the 1.0 version of Realmverse cyoa. This is its premiere, as I haven't published or uploaded it anywhere else yet (I’m gonna do it after posting it here) so enjoy being the privileged audience today.Critique is welcome, but may be ignored if I deem it to be too much work or not in line with narrative themes (whoever remembers the first 3 pages test, example: I’ve ignored the attribute levels narration, as it would telegraph “the correct” number distribution. And as design themes go, I don’t wanna telegraph too much).
>>96432946Also, answering one question about this cyoa:>Is this an elaborate troll?Initially it was only a gathering of some narrative ideas that I wanted to test on a live audience with minimum effort. I never suspected that they are subversive in cyoa community. So, after realizing it, I’ve doubled down and sprinkled some sadistic game design principles into it. It’s still not a troll, but some options are now designed to punish you, sometimes hard. Ofc, sgd assumes that you can punch back, so you can avoid all punishments and exploit given options (in fact, I’m expecting you to do so on 2cnd or 3rd read).
>>96432964Companions were not in the initial vision of this project. Originally they were meant to be just a vague modifier like “Training Buddy” or “War Lover”, but due to demand frens, waifus and husbandos were added to cyoa.That’s also the page where I’m ready to rewrite a lot for 1.1, as I seriously don’t know if you like characters that I came up with on the spot. Also, let’s face it: some of them are just token characters. So, let me know, who should stay and who should be thrown out and what character to add in.
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>>96433004About Hybridcraft: I know that’s an overpowered outcome and there is a way to trigger it 2 times. That’s by design, as that’s one of the given options to punch back against dick DM. Still, it is quite costly, so may not be worth it for all adventures.
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>>96433042Chimeras are one of the themes I’m testing. Born just as a reason for catgirls to exist in the Realmvarse, grew to a proper monster with time and ended up as one of the quests in this cyoa. If you partake in this quest, let me know how you feel about them and the stages quest format compared to normal outcomes.
>>96433058The telegraphed punishment quest, that by design you should take very early in the questline or avoid thanks to your skills. Also, MIA outcome was designed to fuck over a specific type of minmaxer reader.I hope that none of you Anons fell for this outcome.
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>>96433140Legendary class unlock quest. Not everyone would get it and on the first read you shouldn't qualify for any of them unless you are lucky or the Soul Weaver dude that I told to pick Survival during testing.Legendaries are not balanced at all and 4 of them have designed narration paths that you can take: Realmwalker, Soul Weaver, True Gremlin and Worldcrafter.I don’t know how you all will feel about putting my own build as a one of the legendaries there. Please treat it more like an easter egg to see “what author was thinking when designing” than a viable legendary class.
>>96433150Epilogues, just as Companions were added later into the project as many were trying to lift the Immortality Curse during the test with only character creation available. And as you can see, this is where I also give you the monkey paw. The Little Girl epilogue was added when I’ve learned that some of cyoa readers read cyoas solely to become little girls. My line of thinking was: “This is cringe enough to be a valid curse cure epilogue”.Dream epilogue is there to encourage multiple readings for multiple paths.Feel free to criticize or ask for epilogues for your outcomes combination or your favorite companion epilogue. As this is a page that will definitely get more entries in 1.1.Also, if someone will create a character with a story that impresses me enough, I’m saving a screenshot alongside Realmverse files and may end up compiling it with other screenshots as a “hall of fame” page.
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>>96432931The setup as established is such that it's hard to care what happens or who wins.
>>96433547>it's hard to care what happens or who winsSo just like real life pessimists then?
>>96433547>>96433588Ye, that's one of the themes. War is the background, focus is on what you do in this situation and more personal consequences (fate of your realm is also a personal consequence at this scale).Bad theme?
>>96433714There is no such thing as a bad cyoa.
>>96432931>realmversewhat about verserealm, verseverse, and realmrealm?
>>96433831Oh, I know my cyoa is awesome, but themes inside are under strict judgment rn.
>>96432931I can’t play this because:1) It involves Earth as though it were on the same tier dimensionally 2) It pretends magic and technology are not kin / just physics as it is
>96433930Bait, BAIT!
>>96432946>Classes say things like "perception +1">this DOESN'T mean you automatically get them. You only get them if you picked the corresponding option from OriginSo should I assume in general that I don't get what is listed in an option?
>>96432931>>96432946>I’ve doubled down and sprinkled some sadistic game design principles into it... ...some options are now designed to punish you, sometimes hardthis is your cyoa so you are obviously free to make it however you want but at the same time you can't exactly expect anons to be thrilled about a cyoa that seems hellbent on screwing you over for not picking the 'right options' especially when most of the choices railroad you into a certain type of build.so for a blind build this ends up being incredibly frustrating (especially for those who sides with union for obvious reasons) while for those who saw ahead it's not exactly fun to just pick and choose the good options with no regard to build cohesionapart from the endings, the cyoa looks great and the premise sounds fun and interesting
>>96433961Both origins that pick a class get the class attribute bonus.Origin that also gets skills is named on the class card.
>>96433930>I can’t play this because...of your autism
>>96433993I don't think you understood me. For example, Body (male vs female) options have bonuses too. Can I just take those bonuses, or am I not allowed to because there's no option that says I may? Common sense suggests I can take them, but analogy to the Class section suggests that I cannot take them.
>>96433969Hmm... I checked it multiple times and there should be multiple positive paths. Not to mention that realm specific epilogues, don't trigger if you wasn't in that realm at any point.But true, I may overdid some of the bad outcomes a little.
>>96432987Holy shit, nipples? On a blue board!? My eyes have been seared from my skull!
>technology grows weaker in the presence of magicThis makes no sense and implies aliens are enforcing (functional) ignorance in the form of medieval-ism
>>96433969Basically people just read CYOAs like this backwards, they construct the build to fulfill the endings/resolutions they hate the least. It's really not all that fun to do, but bad ends are even more unsatisfactory.
Is that OC? Finally, I can pause on my OR build.
>>96434021So a logic problem. Thank you, deleting attribute gain mention should fix the issue.>>96434129I've based it on "real life" gremlin effect, with logic that magic messes up with forces of reality enough to disrupt physics and chemistry.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin
>powerfantasfaggots SEETHE that they have a chance of "losing"Just don't play it, niggas.
>>96434371>powerfantasfaggots SEETHE that they have a chance of "losing"but it's not a 'chance', it's a predestined and absolute loss/death because you didn't pick the option the author wanted you to pick.
>>96432931>cant take a pick class with Isekai Stopped reading right there
>>96432931Attributes:- Fitness, 2- Agility, 1- Perception, 3- Intelligence, 1- Charisma, 3Realm: FrontierBody: MaleSide: EmpireRace: VariantOrigin: IsekaijinSkills:- Science- Sixth Sense- Survival- Animal Handling- Martial Prowess- Samodoskonalenie- Soul- BodyQuests:- Exploration- Chimera Hunt- Homesteading- Orc Incursion- Self PerfectionThis is what I have for my build so far. Do unlock companions based on outcomes of quests? At first I thought it was a case of choosing companions first and that they would modify quest outcomes but after reading through some of the quests that doesn't seem to be the case.If it's the former than I would recommend putting the companion page after the quest pages or otherwise clarifying how the companions are gained on the companion page.
>>96432931Why are Hybrids female only?
>>96434179So instead of aliens it’s gremlins. Okay.
>>96432931>have to add this gremlin effect hoolahum since he knows otherwise techGODS curbstomp magecucksKEKAROO
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>>96434801Are you retarded. Magic systems are basically giant invisible machines. The quantum gremlins (alternatively, quantum ogres) are the magic makers. All magic is basically technology-logic, since spells are no better than programs, like apps. For spells to exist at all they’d have to be more advanced than anything we’re used to. The parameters and variables are simply too much. This is also why settings like Fate/Stay Night (“hur dur, magecraft is anything science can do, hur dur, even though it can’t”) are so retarded. I’m surprised people think magic in 99.99 percent of fiction could ever be naturally or unintelligently occurring at all.
>>96434863All you’re doing is convincing me that magic is a lot more evil than not if it’s essentially one big setting prank, or a ruse that rewards.
>>96434892>a ruse that rewards.All religion is this. “Do what the gods say or else”. Ignorance is a virus.
>>96434912>le reddit atheistYou need to go back.
It’s a common theme in science fiction for sufficiently advanced aliens to stifle natural understanding at the quantum level to prevent less than desired forms of life to advance further until they mature a bit more. Some races and cultures just shouldn’t reach the atomic age.
>>96434934Lol. “If you don’t come and worship me at my temple you will burn for all eternity”. Christianity is indistinguishable from worshiping a demon.
>>96434940>noooo don’t let the ants blow themselves up due to their own hubris nooooYou’re no fun; a disaster may even be a necessary experience so it never happens again
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>>96434964History repeats, anon. Some disasters you can’t come back from.
>>96434934>>96434966How about try arguing him wrong instead of resorting to the usual ‘go back’
>Current time in New Delhi: 2:29 AMI didn't expect her to not be Indian.
>>96434984>how DARE you no no how about you hecking listen to me?? you are not allowed to be mean to immigrantsNo. You need to go back.
>>96434912>Is everything and everyone a virusThat your imagine is saying. Pure nihilistic seethe because your life wasn't happy 100% of the time :(
Imagine a spacefaring civilization that comes across a suspiciously fantastical world stuck eternally in the equivalent of antiquity, where absurd architecture that shouldn’t be possible is still somehow possible, and typical known natural laws are somehow sidestepped and cultivated in directions that baffle all natural reason (“only some mad game obsessed alien would make some wonderland like this, or allow such arbitrary capabilities”), and imagine if the learned men (“wizards” and such) of that world, under the favor of the “gods”, (“whoever or whatever is behind all of this”) had an even better grasp of science and physical possibility than the scientists of the visiting spacefaring civilization (“the designer of this insane world has to be far more sophisticated or alien than we’re familiar with”). Imagine if some of those “wizards” were actually the extensions/“fingers” of whatever higher dimensional being, or beings, responsible for the planet in question, roleplaying or just cosplaying as characters. Imagine if that world was just one of an infinite number of “settings”, each sourced to its own universe or dimension, like an endless set of possibilities for a single world, like it’s all improvised “for fun”. Mister Mxyzptlk.
I don't think I want to post my OC anymore
>>96435088An alien race of seemingly omnipotent ‘Gamemasters’ would be pretty terrifying. Like the Q Continuum from Star Trek but with even less sense of right and wrong, and supremer boredom.
>>96435088>Imagine if some of those “wizards” were actually the extensions/“fingers” of whatever higher dimensional being, or beings, responsible for the planet in question, roleplaying or just cosplaying as charactersIsnt that basically Gandalf
>>96432931>>96432946>>96432964>>96432987>>96433004>Immortality curse will give you eternal youth for 100 years then kill youFuck that, why would I want to play that shit? Give me true eternal youth or get fucked>14 pagesI could compile this into 7 or less pages, but I'm not gonna, fuck u and your immortality curse
>>96435130Yes, sort of, the Ainar aren’t all the same being, thoughbeit. Arda is essentially the simulated planet Sung into being. Suffice to stay, it is a simulated world.
>>96435147Silence Tok, you haven't made OC in ages.You aren't relevant anymore. A bane of your own making.
>>96435106I'm sorry to hear that, anon, but I understand. You aren't under any obligation to share your work with anyone but yourself.
>>96432931I think it could be more clear on the rules.Usually CYOAs either give you a currency or say "pick this number" in each section.
>>96435189The last CYOA I did was this CYOA, pic realted
>>96435320Garbage not worth discussing. I'd rather play OR
>>96435326I also did the Dragonfall update and pic realted
>>96435088(I replied to this before but deleted because I misread a bit)That's a fine premise, are you making a CYOA? This is actually really common in fanfiction (I'm sure I've read a number of fanfiction stories from different fandoms with this premise - I honestly expect every large enough fandom gets some), but for good reason, it's not a reason why you should avoid it (most premises aren't one of a kind).
>>96435333You have your own thread>>96275050Go back to it.
>>96432931Imagechest link?CYOAs that are only posted on 4chan are difficult to search for later on.
>>96435333Neither seem like anything that's fun to discuss with others, I'll pass.
Does anyone have that chess cyoa? Black and White?
>>96435189>>96435326You will all beg for forgiveness when I release Hentai Heroine. Because Hentai Heroine will do the same that Dragonfall did for Dragon CYOAs which is being the perfect CYOA for that genre and it will kill all other competitors and there will be no more lewd isekai CYOAs because everyone knows that they can never beat Hentai Heroine and they will always be compared to it and fail miserably to even come close to it's perfection. You will then realize that perfection has it's price and you where too greedy, it is acctually goof for other CYOA authors that I make CYOAs slowly and paint warhammer. Imagine if I released a CYOA every month, just think about how many generes I would kill, then there would be no room for non-Tok CYOAs and everyone would just quit making CYOAs. So if anything you should be grateful to my warhammer dragon figures.
>>96435385This?
>>96435333>I also did the Dragonfall update and pic relatedThat was a long, long time ago tho.Tankista has released two big OCs since then.
>>96432931>Realm: Frontier>Attributes:Fitness: 4Agility: 3Perception: 1Intelligence: 1Charisma: 1>Body: Male +1 Fitness>Side: Commonwealth +1 Agility>Race: Ohtman +1 Fitness+Dual Wielding>Origin: Adventurer>Class: Monk +1 Fitness +1 Agility+Class Skills: Samodoskonalenie, Body>Skills:Martial ProwessArmorerDual WieldingWeapon MasterStealthThieverySamodoskonalenieBody>Quest: EscapeOrc IncursionSelf Perfection>Escape Outcomes:Covered Tracks +1Freedom of Choice +1Hunted -2Moving Fast +1Reliable +1Well Prepared +1I guess this means it was a successful escape? Gotta be honest little bit confused, I think escaping makes me count as a Deserter because I kept looking for something that said it but I might just me blind, took it anyway just to be safe. Companions were too confusing so I just skipped it, the sections of Training Buddy and Soulmate and all that probably comes up later but if I'm going in blind like I am right now, hard to actually make a build the way its structured.>Exploration:Clue +Location ClueIntel +Intel>Homesteading:Incursion! -1 Resource Point>Orc Incursion:Slaughter +Incursion RepelledWarboss Down +Incursion RepelledI don't really know where to go from here, so I guess it's time for>Self Perfection:Solo Exercise +1 SkillWow, so there's no real legendary class for someone who went just meathead martial. Kind of stings.>Conquest:From Enemies to Lovers +1 +1 War LoverReliable Intel +1Frontline Leadership +1Behind Enemy Lines +2yeah if I'm honest I'm just premptively cutting it off here. This just is getting punted back and forth between scenarios and without any real way to pump my stats I can't get any skills that require intelligence or perception, and there isn't enough companions I can fuck to really shift things around unless I want to take another 20 turns. This is just not very fun.
>>96435396Dragonfall had general audience appeal, while Hentai Heroine as I understand it is strictly tranny erotica, which sets an upper limit to its success
>>96435396>Hentai HeroineStopped reading there. Sounds like it belongs in the /trash/ thread. Go hide in your own thread, the OR anons are coming after the previous thread dies.
>>96435396I wish kiwifarms had a thread about you.
>>96435396>Because Hentai Heroine will do the same that Dragonfall did for Dragon CYOAs which is being the perfect CYOA for that genre and it will kill all other competitors and there will be no more lewd isekai CYOAs because everyone knows that they can never beat Hentai Heroine and they will always be compared to it and fail miserably to even come close to it's perfection.It won't. It's punishment porn/feminization slop. Those are a dime a dozen nowadays. Plus you alienate straight males, the biggest majority of CYOA players.
>>96435413>Hentai Heroine as I understand it is strictly tranny eroticaThat is where you are wrong. In Hentai Heroine you will be able to choose if you want to be male. However, if you choose to be a man you will be a twinkish trap shootalooking femboy, pic realted. As you can see, you are not forced into becomeing a woman, you can keep being a man, but you will be a cute one.
>>96435396How about you try to make something that is actually worth while and not just a quick fap? Something with more depth that can have anons discussing it's lore for weeks if not months while arguing while build is the most powerful or the most fun? You can't because you're washed up and can only think with your dick forever jealous of other authors that have surpassed you. Your tantrums don't do you any favors either.You will die only remembered by your shit fits and forgotten.
>>96435396>he doesn't even talk about Shadowflop or Magic the Floppeninglmao
>>96432931Just from a skim trying to play a Hybrid sucks in this and there's nothing special about it so I don't know why you bothered with it.
>>96435439But that's gay? That's extremely niche, certainly not an argument for why it could recapture Dragonfall's success.
>>96435442>ShadowflopWhat's this?
>>96435439Tim and BTG already have that shit down to a science. Your other cyoa idea is fucking avatar franchise sloppa.
>>96435459Neither of them make femboy/trap CYOAs and BTG is banned from the site for being British anyway.
>>96435456a shitty /trash/ cyoa he hyped up. it barely broke two digit builds lol
>>96435455 (me)maybe this came across wrong, I'm not saying you should make the most generic general-audience cyoa you can. But it's common sense that if your cyoa is about what most people consider gross shit, then you can't hope to match Dragonfall's reception.
>>96435470Nope, a lot of their stuff has trap options also BTG is a northern bloke in his 30s he can figure it out.
>>96435396going to be honest I don't see how you're even going to make a perfect CYOA in this type of genre when literally BTG and their CYOA's exist. I mean shit I played that fucked up maid one like a month ago and still haven't mentally recovered, the dread and stress it created still lingers in my head but somehow was still engaging enough to go through to the bitter end without turning me away.It also gave me a thing for maids that I didn't have before but thats just one of the more mild side effects.
>>96435440>How about you try to make something that is actually worth while and not just a quick fap?Hentai Heroine will be worth the biggest fap of your life. It will be a 10 page CYOA and it will feature some really fucking cool mechanics that will make it the dark souls of masochism. It will be one hardcore fucking CYOA.>>96435442>he doesn't even talk about Rape Shadow LegendsWhich was banned from /trash/ and reddit for having too much loli in it, the 2 biggest communities for lewd CYOAs. It's not strange that it has so little builds when it is not allowed to post it>or Magic the AwakeningThis one I fucked up, I can admit that. I focused too much on translating card mechanics to the CYOA which made the CYOA feel not like a fantasy adventure but a wired MtG rule set. I should have focused more on the lore and coming up with lore friendly abilities. But still some magic autists loved it, but my intent was not to make CYOA for MtG autists but to a broder audience of fantasy enjoyers and introduce them to the MtG lore. I guess I could "fix" the CYOA but I hate remakes and would rather make a new CYOA then to dwell on a past CYOA.
>>96435439Just make an isekai warhammer CYOA where you're OP human/eldar/dwarf/druchii/lizard/beast/chaos/daemon and can take over factions and eventually conqueror the world.Boom, insta success, as long as you don't shove tabletop war game mechanics in it or shrink down the setting into one pocket dimension continent.
>>96435522Disgusting and worthless. Go back to your thread.
>>96435337I think he’s making fun of how tabletop games work.
Is it even possible for magic to always be magic? How do you stop a sufficiently high iq alien from understanding it to the point where it’s not magic to them?
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>>96435664I’m serious. Magic is “magic” to the sufficiently high iq.
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What’s more magical than the thing (the mind’s eye) that makes magic. Honestly.
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>>96435397No but ty
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>>96435752Cope. Why do you think “it depends on the author” is most often fpbp in ‘What is magic?’ threads? Because it extends to literally everyone, culture, etc.
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>>96435664>>96435722>>96435752>>96435791>abloobloobloo
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Who hurt you? Who criticized your magic system? Who said “that’s not magic you stupid bitch” to your face?
Look man he's got a lot of reddit reaction images he's been saving, if you go along with it and let him post them you'll really make his day.
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>Magic is literally just playing with earth, fire, air and water>It’s literally just an elemental extension of their muscles>1/3 of the human race can do it, even if they suck at it How is this magic again?
>>96435854It’s not. Not if everyone can do it.
>>96435854>>96435856What?
>obvious off-topic samefaggingIt's all so tiresome...
>>96435878https://imgchest.com/p/agyv6mmb789
In Avatar the Last Airbender the people of that world don’t really consider elemental bending to be magic. It’s just what people do in that setting. Magic to them would be taboo and esoteric aspects of elemental bending, like bloodbending, or interacting with spirits, or just being the goddamned Avatar. I’m not sure why people don’t understand that magic is just mystique.
>>96435914Yeah, well, they’re retarded. What the fuck do they know. They don’t.
>>96435914Let's be frank here, nobody gives a fat fuck whether you call it 'magic' or 'element craft' or 'willworking' or whatever.
>>96435935A thousand years ago you’d be beheaded for calling the wrong god magic or not.
>>96435938I don't care, unless you're speaking on Hekate's behalf and she's telling me she doesn't want me to call it magic I don't give a shit what people a thousand years ago would do.
>>96435938More like two hundred years ago.
>>96435949“No it’s a miracle, not magic, you stupid retard; only faggot demons give magic away, and your gay ass “““god””” is just a faggot demon btw, god I hate you”
>>96435958Hekate wouldn't say that because back in her day demon was a term for a protective guardian spirit and not something bad.
Whether a religion sees its rites as magic or not depends on how pretentious they are lol
>>96435963Well it would depend on the demon/daimon. Like it depends on the fae/faerie, the jinn/djinn, etc. Words get perverted into pejoratives over time, and magic is either a pejorative or not.
>>96435977Well we know who to blame for making all of those terms specifically into pejoratives.
“I know it’s literally the same thing, but, like, it’s just better, okay?”
>>96435983Christianity weaponized words so well *precisely* because humans are too stupid to admit when something is all too ironic. They can’t do it. Humans struggle thinking interchangeably and they can’t spot parallels or universals to save them from their own embarrassment. Their one and only saving grace is that they usually die before they get made fun of by all the historians who look at their belief systems centuries later wondering why they could ever ignore something so blatantly similar in all ways but name.
And yes, Christianity is indistinguishable from witchcraft. You’d have to be blind or just biased in favor of ignoring parallels and focusing obsessively on superficial shit to not see it. “No they’re different because they look different!” just doesn’t cut it. You’re an idiot if you think this. You tthink a painting isn’t a painting. Amazing.
So this is what cyoa threads are like when they're not obsessing over one CYOA. Disgusting.
“No it’s a miracle”“No it’s Magick”“No it’s science”“No it’s boogaloo”
>>96436014It's the power that you do.
>call something magic>something even more bizarro shows up>can’t call it magic because the name is already in use Writing Problems for Retards 101
>>96436023Call it eldritch magic.
>>96436023This is why magic is “magic” and not Magic™
>>96436034Fuck off Fat Man, and finish your fucking BOOK you FUCK. God.
>>96436066No one deserves Winds. Sorry. That's the truth. No one is grateful. Humans are garbage. George can flip off whoever he wants.
>>96428309>>96428314>>96428379The parts arrived today instead of next week and after literal 6 hours of tinkering my system is working again. If I have to do this shit again, though I'll buy another computer system.
Holy Jesus why is Discord(Aro...) like this
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>>96436134>aromage>claims to be a girl>trans rights on profilesus
>>96436134That's sda not aro you stupid cunt
>Fighter>Mage>ThiefI'm working on a cyoa. Pick one of these three and describe what abilities you'd like to see them have access to.
>>96436463>FighterSpellsword>MageSpellsword >TheifStole their spellswords
>>96436463>FighterOmnipotence>MageOmniscience>ThiefOmnipresence and omnimalevolence
>>96436491These powers are not balanced.
>>96436463The thief is like a mix of mage and fighter, honestly. It's the same with assassins (sorcery in myth was a lot like assassination). The best magicians, even when they're obvious, are cunning and will employ underhanded tactics and deception(ignorance) to accentuate their magic ("the more effortless the sorcery appears, the more men fear the sorcerer" - a game of thrones), and will be most subtle about how they go about it, just like the rogue.
>>96436523>- a game of thrones
>>96436541Yes. If you do something amazing, you can say it's magic, and onlookers will just nod in amazement. "It's from the motherfucking Devil". Watch Christians scream. It's really that effective.
>>96436523I think of a mage as a more behind-the-scenes character, with abilities like scrying, monster-summoning, and weapon-crafting. A thief meanwhile has abilities like invisibility, shapeshifting, traps, and assassinations.
>>96436564All of that overlaps.
>>96436463>Fightera dash that lets one quickly close distancesparrying, whether it's melee weapons, arrows or magic projectilessome sort of regeneration skill>Mageit would be cool if magic was mostly focused on support or powerful but very slow to cast spells>ThiefI like >>96436523 idea with thief being able to do a bit of fighter and mage but not as goodthat or something that could specialize in stealth/assassination, charisma/information gathering, or something close to a gadgeteer, able to make and use a wide variety of tools like smoke bombs or poisons
>>96436134>>96436164>>96436156Only asked for the role to be twinsies with sandy, didn't ask for the name lmao, SDA did that on his own. His is way worse than mine imo.
>>96436599>was mostly focused on supportSupport is for losers, you're just a martialtard trying to make magic suck.
>>96436585How so?
>>96436463>FighterBody Enhancement >MageMental Enhancement >Theif Spirit/soul Enhancement Then let me mix and match powers.
>>96436618All the subtle shit thieves and assassins are known for overlaps with magic-users, typically. Invisibility and shapeshifting are trappings of witches, especially when they do it secretly, like turning into a venomous snake to kill a man.
>>96436618Thieves aren't obvious until they are. It's the same with magicians and sorcerers and such. They're deceivers. Theft is often about deception, just as much as magic is. Thievery and sleight-of-hand (this extends to sleight-of-eye, or sleight-of-view) go hand in hand like peanut butter and jam. Thieves think and prepare, much like mages/magic-users.
>>96436609>you're just a martialtard trying to make magic suck.I just want it to be balanced, in a lot of cyoas magic is just so strong and useful that there is no reason to pick anything but a mage buildwhy would you want to swing a sword very fast when you could literally rip the souls from your enemies and turn it into your allies?
>>96436633A fighter could shapeshift too. Cu Culain, for example.
>>96436657Support isn't balanced because support cannot operate on its own, a support character is a slave to non-support characters.
>>96436657Make it so the martial does things other than swing fast, like slice ethereal concepts or move faster than sound.
>>96436658Well, yes, these things aren't mutually exclusive. Someone wanted a distinction between fighters, mages and thieves, and it's all about how they apply their trade. One is about (traditional) fighting, the other is about cunning (cunning/prep is a sort of fighting), and one may just relate to both (a thief may be good with a knife). The knights templar and assassins (*those* assassins) were reputed dabblers in magic. You can be a fighter, or an assassin, and dabble in magic, absolutely.
>>96436658Transforming into a bear to rip out your opponents throat =/= Transforming into a venomous snake to sneakily take someone outA magician can be both overt and covert, but they are often at their most effective when covert, or overt in their preparedness.
>>96436718 (literally me)I'd also argue that it's only overt if someone SEES you transform into a bear, or any other sort of big ass rampaging animal. No one is obliged to know it's you. Showing off isn't always smart. Sometimes just talk of alleged shapeshifting powers is enough. "They say he can change into a beast at will... but can he truly?". Superstition is a weapon.
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https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information>Chronological Build ListA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407068Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96371953/#96372789Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96401396Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856Father of the Paracausal Arts (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411446The Wandering Professor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393951Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394148Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406404Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910From the ALL https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96396474Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96399427
>>96436690they all need each other anon, it's all part of the adventurer's symbiotic ecosystem:without a support, the tank and dps will find their performance sharply drop without the healing and enhancementswithout a tank, the support and dps will quickly be killed by the enemies that strike fast or hardwithout a dps, the tank and support will not have the firepower necessary to kill the enemy>>96436696it was an exaggerated example, but point still stands that even if you boost them up with some sort of martial energy/chi/technically not magic they tend to fall flat compared to pure magic power which lets you do the same and more from a safe distance
>>96436759Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96410023Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341
>>96436760>they all need each other anonNo they don't. The offensive character can just kill the support character and they can do nothing about it.
>>96436773I definitely won a lot of 1v1s as a resto druid in the Dalaran sewers, back in the day
>>96434966>>96436759
>>96436744No Lucien?
>>96436782I'm not a WoWtist I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>96436773>The offensive character can just kill the support character and they can do nothing about it.then they lose their support and die from lack of heals/enhancements?
>>96436795Nah tanks can solo no problem.
>>96436759Which is the weakest build?
>>96436803Mine
>>96436810Which is?
>>96436803the obvious answer is Aurum Arc the Golden Finger who just burnt most of their points in honor of 0^0, but if I bothered to look at each build I bet someone overlooked something stupid and just set themselves to get crippled as soon as they are born
>>96436803Zyneheart, his levels of anti-synergy and meaninglessness are up to max, he's going to job even harder than Savmak and be turned by any of his many pupils into a sentient spellbook.
>>96436820No, Which is is pretty good.
>>96436803All of the solo builds.
>>96436823Look for an Meandering Thought + Enochian Brand combo.
>>96436837>That one Outsider with Enochian brand that just starts mentally giggling to Yery being a funny word
>>96436835They couldn't handle the bros.
>>96436790Just PvP. I played heals and won duels, because I could heal myself through the damage while chipping them down. This was during a patch when the balance was way off, but my main point was that who wins a 1v1 is entirely a balance thing.
>>96436825How so? I have Meandering Thought IRL, but a quick glance informed me he did the Keter trick. Surely he had enough points to make something meaningful?
>>96436837A painful life (your death slot will keep you alive) if you take both magic talents with that, without Caster Intuition it would be fine as long as you fix Meandering Thought before learning how to turn Meaning into spell.
>>96436905Or you take Pixie. It's baby mode for the easily dying.
>>96436914That can backfire and turn you into a spiritually broken mess like Keter if you can't stop killing yourself in painful ways.
>>96436927I'd win.
>>96436862He:>Tried for Tenyota (sacrifice gifts) and Thoroughbreeding (preserve gifts for offspring) at the same time.>Wants to be a teacher without any social gifts or mentors, as a hybrid of stigmatized races, with both Bitter Sickness and double Wereplague.>Eternally Cursed and therefore cannot heal by mundane means.>Double Wereplague makes you nonsapient when it's legal, alright, but he did the even dumber thing where he specified that instead of nonsapience it has "duration". Meaning that he sartre'd it to become permanent.>Used Antecedence Godhand to sartre an even stronger Icon of Icons. That's not "stupid" as long as everyone else puts up with your bad sportsmanship.>Maimed and raped Paxxia after buying her moralstacy daughter. The Apantoxia Heresy is inevitable.>Blatantly uses Daemonhost, therefore being a Demon Lord, having the edgelord attitude of one, in the open public.>Gave Lyudi to Dobrava and assigned her to kill the betrayal expert, negating the whole lever that she uses her Word of God for.>Put them inside of Gunter's party.>Overdosed on so many mentors and companions that he has almost no room for other Outsiders.
>>96436945Huh.I guess that's the story he wanted to tell? An idiot savant saving the world by teaching another generation despite his average quality as such? Then again he use Daemonhost openly...
>>96432931The work continues The new traits will be fun and I will attempt to make each trait have 2 upsides and 1 downside to make them more attractive.There will be more traits related to social things and utility as well Also there will be a Racist trait
>>96436945Zyneheart here.I am going to keep my Gifts until after conceiving Apantoxia, then turn it into a technique to teach my students to help continue their legacies through their own children. For teaching, I explicitly did not timeskip Leimeie so that I could master myself before truly learning how to teach. One as a spiritual guide for my journey of the Self along with being fated to meet so many others should teach me more than enough to grow sociable.I want to cure the easily cured ones in childhood since they are explicitly cureable. Otherwise, I will be somewhat ostracized and mistrusted by most, that is fine, my students can run PR if they care, I do not. Icon of Icons is 5AP, Autoantecedence God Hand is 7AP. Paxxia should suffer the same fate for losing as Ymreit. Not biased at all from my old build having Ymreit as a mother.Lyudi on Dobrava was to be thematic with Shadow of God. I'd interpret it as Charlie siccing Nilmatrix on her for recovering the Second Throne piece from Dirk Yesod.Valid, it was honestly a single player build that I threw Outer Tide onto at the end.
>>96436463Passive enhancements for all.
>>96436803The lich meme build with the disgusting image
>>96436759What's your favorite build? I'll assume you're not counting yours.
>>96437072Aurum Arc>t. paid post
>>96436759>From the ALL https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96396474This is a V1 build, go drop it from the list.
>>96437079Very well.
>>96436960
>>96436960Will you have to be racist to everyone or choose to be racist to a few loose grouping of races? Personally I would choose to be racists towards elf-likes, furries, and scalies.
>>96436759Outer Reincarnation: Father of the Paracausal Arts, Can't be bothered edition.Patron God: SRTR20 Ancestral20 DestinyMaleOuter TideDrawbacks:Wereplague (22 A)Bitter Sickness (26 A)Father: Fot (25 A)Mother: Maiosara Yesod (21 A) - Misalliance (40 A)Adoptive parent-Dice Fudge: Keter (43 A, 14 D) Race: Majin Languages: (45 A)Keeping:Palantiner, Draconian, Everman, Entramithraic Quietened: (37 D)Old Northern, Salian, Elven-Northener, High Elven, Fay, Nymphe, Spriggan, Sylphid, Greenspeech, Auburn, Bonewhisper, Simplified Duergar, Late ThulanPlace of Birth: Mountains of Autumn (39 D)Encounters: (50 A, 48 D) A Bridge, a Toll, a Troll (47 A, 41 D)A Band of Ogres (48 A, 43 D)A Score of Orcs (50 A, 44 D)Gifts: Caster's Intuition (48)Spiritual Feel (46)Attentiveness (44)Memory Retention (42)All Glimpse (37)Enochian Brand (35)Azure Wreath (33)Vigilant Strand (32)Autoantecedece (27)Spirit Tap x3 (15)Intelligence (13)Wisdom (11)Cognitive speed (9)Kneeling Twilight (8)Continued:DaemonhostMentors:Erina (41 D) Untimeskip (22)Yesod (36 D) (Kashtanka, Opoia) Untimeskip (20)Mentor slot (6, 35) Herleva (31 D) Untimeskip (18)Extra Mentor (4 A, 34 D)Maou (30 D) Untimeskip (16)Extra Mentor: (2, 29 D)Seo (24 D) Untimeskip (14)Extra Mentor: (0, 28 D)Feodwra (24) Untimeskip (12)Death Slot:Mine: ThetaChildhood: Magical Training, Martial Training, Power Testing, Natural Philosophy. Quest:E NomineFor clarification, its Professor or Paracausal in a tide, not both. Where Professor conflicts Paracausal takes it's place.
>>96437169New version should be legal. Autoantecedent Spirit tap is very expensive. It just lets me use it on myself, add any three gifts, also lasts a few hours instead of minutes. Though I'm not sure on that part yet so you can consider spirit tap to still be a wip.
>>96437169>Misalliance Maiosara>Keter parent into refunded languagesTruly an exciting build, anon. Very original.
>>96437197NTA but originality doesn't matter. He got the numbers and the skills to back up his claims.
>>96437197>>Keter parent into refunded languagesMolested build.
>>96437207Hot
>>96437197Salty your build doesn't have the exploit, hmmmmmm?
>>96437202Sure. Have fun with that.
>>96437169>For clarification, its Professor or Paracausal in a tide, not both. Where Professor conflicts Paracausal takes it's place....I don't understand what you're trying to do.Anyway, it seems like you prefer Professor because you seem put it above Paracausal in priority, so I'm gonna record the former as Tide and the latter as Lone.
>>96437197The fun part is in my Reality Shard plan. Where I rip a bubble of earth spacetime forward into this world and bind it to myself as a deployable field. A unique form of Xi based undeath that allows for weird anomalous magic through Brane intersection and Pandemonium pushing. I prefer to do the creative part with the tools of the build rather than making the build itself maximally creative.
>>96437207I don't know why people keep acting like it's Keter that does that when it's Thaumiel.
The gods should have removed misalliance after Erginter.
>>96437197I'm completely game for builds that do that getting a mandatory Az death letter, those kind of fags would never tolerate their ego death.
>>96437219Actually I prefer Paracausal. If you insist on only one build ever even in tides where one can't exist then just stick to Paracausal.
>>96437232Actually I'm pretty cool with it, part of my plan is to take up Ielzaiseh's stuff through another outsider and just constantly be ego-dying very slowly over time.
>>96437229Keter is just a normal neglectful parent if you take her. It's only when you Quieten every language under the sun that you unlock the 20 Destiny Point Sexually Abused Malady Gift.
That and it's a Toybox build, so she doesn't actually show up. I suppose SRTR could sock puppet her. Or yoink her into the box? Idk.
>>96437229Yea, Keter is a neglectful mother not a molesting mother.
How does one go about changing their death slot type?Tenyota went from C to B from back when Yphont chose her.
>>96437245If the argument is that selling the languages twists fate too much, I don't buy it. Learning 17 different languages in childhood is way less believable than having a few extra mentors/companions.Honestly I think Keter should just be 1 language of your choice as a parent, but the exploit was confirmed to work by WoG, so here we are.
Do you even get raised by the adoptive parent in the Toybox?
>>96437259The Elder Gods or the system can do it.
>>96437289No but SRTR will sockpuppet adoptive parents if you ask.
>>96437284One learned every language in childhood from two unnotables and ran from home as a toddler.
Hey if Outer Tide instead of actual annons would let you pick other people so you could pick other people to come in from our world or other worlds maybe isekai people at the start of their series(they don't get the powers from their world though) who would you pick?I think Senku from Dr Stone, and Subaru from Rezero with 20 eyes of fores would be interesting.
In Toybox your fate/narrative is sort of a blank slate to be set up by SRTR, you're partly giving up shaping your own destiny in favor of SRTR's craftsmanship in my eyes. Your story will begin forming mostly after you've done the build, rather than being built during the cyoa.
>>96437307Sonichu
>>96437302Other way around, imo. Learned most of his languages on the streets as a voluntary orphan
>>96437317Based, what would early Chrischan build in Outer Reincarnation?>Absolutely a JNPL bro.>Definitely Beastfolk for the hedgehog appearance.>Probably True Loves Keter but loses touch with her anyway.>Esurient Walk x2 goes without saying.>Has no Maladies because those are midwit bait.>Ameno because of main character syndrome.
eight hours into my first OR build for this update and after taking malice twenty seven times in order to run out of letters intentionally and spare my loved ones from their fated deaths, i'm starting to feel like a real piece of shit
>>96437353Unnotable Ones aren't immune to Malice.
...you don't need warmachina mounting if you revive Vtorusha, right?cause that would be super gay
>>96435772My melinated brother. Thank you.
>>96437377You can just have the Dwarf companion make a new kind that either runs on your bloodline or does away with that requirement.
>>96437377I'm not sure Vtorusha needs you to ride her, but if she's not an insane nightmare demon who wants to unmake the world by the time you wake her up, I imagine she CAN just let you ride her if she wants. The one Warmachina companion lets you ride her without mounting because she likes you.
So, does Geminara know what was on the rock or nah?What's the best way to find the missing information?
Would becoming a half undead as a hybrid make your mind immune to being rolled back by the old throne's time reset?
>>96437426how does that negate time travel
>>96437307My bro. My crush My ex. My little sister. My older brother. My father. My mother. Hm. I might do a build centered around that idea.
>>96437434It's a misreading of the way that Inga Yesod conquered the Old Throne, she mentally enslaved its king as an undead and had him reload, since his personality and memories were unaffected by time travel as its user, that meant that his slavery carried over into the real timeline.
>>96437348>Buki is the real identifier.
>>96437434Inga Yesod made the Old Throne king an undead under her control and that control was maintained after he reset time. Honestly that itself seems nonsensical to me but, since it is true I think my idea has merit.
>>96437424Starsight x2 autocomplete and Feodwra time magic are the obvious paths.Alternatively, you might try to find Vtorusha inside her nightmare, using Esu or something similar. Seo's training might help you make a remembrance of her, for a different approach to the same idea.Dirk should know what it said, too. He's keeping it secret for a reason, tho.
>>96437456Like the other anon said, it only worked because he was the user, the Old Throne sends its users mind back in time. So no, your mind won't be immune to being rolled back by the old throne unless you're the one using it (and this is subject to all the rules using the throne has.)Though anon it's really stupid to abuse the Old throne since every use of it massively powers up the nightmare.
>>96437307I feel like Lelouch would solo
>>96437307My lord Goku would solo the whole setting.
>>96437461If keter is the one that stole the rock in the first place, shouldn't she know it?
>>96437473>catfag>indulging metafaggotryHow the mighty have fallen...
>>96437475I dont get it
>>96437353You cannot pick someone if you cannot fill their death slot. You would have to rescind all your mentors and companions.
>>96437360>Unnotable OnesThey don't matter.
>>96437307I will send an artificial amalgamation made from the souls of Earth's greatest writers/storyteller à la Grimm.
>>96437468
>>96437464Hmm fair you team up with him he'd raise a Dorian army to wipe out the Ecumene.>>96437468But he can't choose to be a Saiyan. Only options are human, elf, drakonid, beastman, or dwarf
Everyone who doesn’t take Inga Yesod is making a mistake. Superb mage and ruler, one of the smartest people in the story, loyal, and she single-handedly solves the respawning Empyrean problem. 0^0 used her plan, Inga probably already knows five ways for you to dethrone her.
>>96437534Get ready for true Saiyan Sollipsism.
>>96437426Just Dream Passage walk out of the nightmare after the reset and kill your new copy and take their place.
>>96437538She also costs 5 points and is a terrible teacher.
>>96437526>GrimmI wonder how the Elder Gods would feel about him...
>>96437538>Everyone who doesn’t take Inga Yesod is making a mistake.>Everyone who doesn't use the Keter exploit is making a mistake>Everyone who doesn't use Zemlya is making a mistake>Everyone who doesn't pick Outer Tide is making a mistake>Everyone who doesn't pick Buki is making a mistake>Everyone who doesn't use Dream Passage is making a mistake>Everyone who doesn't use All-Glimpse is making a mistake
bros I'm looking for ways to get more AP but my build is really tight...should I just sac Omega?
>>96437555Only the last two points are true.
>>96437473Probably saw it, no guarantee she read it, though. Nilmatrix was manipulating her party, and Charli wanted it to stay secret, so Nil might've convinced them that reading it would make it useless for Dirk or something.
>>96437555If you're not playing like me you're making a mistake.
>>96437558Do not. That +5 AP feels like a bribe from Charlie that'll end up fucking you over, like Omega betraying you or something.
>>96437538I wanted to take Inga but I'm out of Companion slots and I don't have enough destiny points to afford her anyway.
>>96437558Maiosara Yesod is worth 14AP if you Misalliance her as mother.
>>96437574My conscience says to Misalliance Stoyan and buy your mom a better husband instead.
>>96437558>>96437570yeah if you can't Ot her you might be better off not picking her at all
>>96437517i'm not seeing that anywhere, it's mostly "assumed" that i shouldn't be able to do that, but using the By Design encounter as a blueprint, the only thing at really happens is that their metaphorical book is closed and they're free to go die off somewhere else, malice says that it's limit is the number of letters in the alphabet, so if i just fill everything out with people i would like to see dead or i am indifferent about, then there aren't enough letters for my parents and companions and they get to escape fateon some Darth Plagueis shit
>>96437578>muh conscienceDo you want to win or not?
>>96437570Yeah the way she talks about considering giving Kako points but holds off yet gives Khier so many really says how much she desperately wants you to choose it. Its the most obvious bait option.
>>96432931Doing a dark lord CYOA. Any good ideas for "mindless minion" races to pick from? So far I have undead, insectoids, slimes and golems. Image suggestions appreciated.
>>96437558You can get a decent amount of AP by getting simplified Duergar polyglot, buying extra companion slots, and using the extra slots on all of the Uruk encounters that reward AP, if you haven't done that already. Just make sure your build can win the troll fight.
>>96437589Lizardmen?
Entrenchment x3 or Mitigating Grip x3,or Look of Chaos x3? For a pixie build.>>96437574I can't, but I'm already using misalliance on my father slot for 12AP>>96437579I guess I can leave my companion slots empty and do uruk encounters instead...
>>964375894chan posters
>>96437589Bad dreams turned into little black ghosts like the Heartless.
>>96437590I was going to do the dicefudge keter thing, but I guess it makes more sense to just pick someone else
>>96437602Do it, it make incels seethe
>>96437589little shadow guys
>>96437586Keter lost because she had no conscience, anon.
>>96437590>make sure your build can win the troll fight>have my boy Gunter with me so it's fine>tfw picked Zelo for himSurely he won't die early, right...?
>>96437607Well my main problem is that I have excess DP and a lack of AP. The Keter trick, even if you sacrifice languages, doesn't really help with that.Choosing 0^0 as a patron would though. That can't go wrong, right?
>>96437585It says on the death slot page that you can only get someone without giving them a letter if they don’t have a slot
>>96437615He'll be there for ALL encounters, so unless the troll is your last one, he won't.
>>96437613She lost because she tried to fight 0^0 normally instead of doing something smart
>>96434743Lore reason: chimeras don't have males bc unique reproduction. Hybrids are half-chimeras, thus almost no chance to be a male. So I just blocked the option for simplicity.>>96432931>>96434832>>96435368Link: https://portal.imgchest.com/p/lqyemdxdx7d
>>96437624i assumed that was more in a "if someone has no death slot, then they are free [from death]" way, since most of those without a death slot are either already dead, or in a state of undeath or immortality, in which they would've already fullfilled their original conditions for their demise, and therefore the outsider system would not be designed to assign them another endthe possibility of running out of letters while using malice to me implies that it would be possible to run out of them if it was somehow possible to get enough points to fill them all out, letting them escape fate to then die off on their own or be reassigned a death by the system once the 12th comes around
>>96437613She lost because she wasn't me.
>>96437641The pun thing was really smart.
>>96437657The elves did that, not her.
>>96436759What is the pun anyway? I keep seeing it mentioned, but never have I seen its specifics.
I was going to give Keter Zelo+Zhivete, but I don't want her to get mindbroken againwat dou
>>96437675Give Kako Zemlya instead.
>>96437672Kilyn’s entry on the first mentor page. The specifics of the pun aren’t stated. Maybe they called her Cherv’lotte or something.
>>96437672Low exponents are called "squared" or "cubed". We can say that a number that isn't an exponential expression is a line, the only 1D shape. If we go beneath that, it has to be a zero dimensional point. Zero obviously means an absence, so Zero to the power of Zero can read as "No Point".
>>96437672Zero to the power of zero is zero.
>>96437665A good leader is one who their resources well, not someone who comes up with every one of her underlings' plans.
>>96437589mutant abominations that operate on instinct alonea fire and forget terror weapon to deploy behind enemy lines
>>96437645Malice happens after all your other choices since you need to have already picked everyone else and it specifies that you are limited by the number of letters. Having someone with an incomplete death slot is the same as having a debt of points, you cannot finish until you fix it.
>>96437743Who put knee armor on him?
>>96437307I would give that opportunity to have an adventure to my friends. At least to those of them who would not mind being conscripted into fighting Charlie.
>>96437810i mean, since the reincarnation section with malice is before the pages with parents, mentors and companions, and the "you" square specifies that you choose perks as the second thing after your sex, then i would argue that malice would actually take effect before all other choices or death letters
The idea is to use Entrenchment x3 + Mitigating Grip + Diminishment bullshit to do physical combat as a pixie. Not quite sure what x3 entrenchment would be, but it should be pretty good given the cost and limitations (imo).I took Last Breath, but I'm not sure if the stamina increase is actually worth it compared to getting all glimpse or something. On the other hand, all glimpse may not always be a good idea. Anyways, Dirk Yesod will be my all glimpse so I can get True Drakonic Solopsism and so we can revive Vtorusha (maybe). Oko Shtorma for 4 points seems pretty good, but maybe not the best pick. Hopefully she gets upgraded into an even better mech with Iotated Greater Yus.>namePUCK BERSERK>patron god0^0>reincarnationUntimeskip -2DPadoption -1DPdice fudgeBurn the Future +4AP -8DPOuter Tide>parentsPu'un (no slot)Simimar of the Doria (Multiocular O, View of Fore x3, slot B)Adoption: Keter -5DP>racePixie>languagesAll :)>starting locationMamet Interior (Archaia, free untimeskip x1 and dice fudge x1)>giftsPerpetuityDiminishmentNoble InclinationMemory RetentionAttentivenessEthereal BeautyDiminishmentMisalliance (Multiocular O, View of Fore x3) +12APWereplague x2 +4APBestial Strength -4APBoiling Blood -3APSecond Wind -3APLast Breath -3APCognitive Speed -2APMartial Instinct -2APLook of Chaos x2 -2APVigilant Strand -1APMitigating Grip x2 -6APEntrenchment x3 -6APAutoantecedence -5APPhantom Wingspan -1APSeraphic Wings -1APIntelligence -2APSpiritual Feel -2APCaster Intuition -2AP>mentorsDirk Yesod -5DP (Nezvana and Kashtanka) untimeskip->companionsOko Shtorma -4DP-->encountersA bridge, a toll, a troll +2AP +2DPA score of orcs +2AP +1DPA band of ogres +1AP +2DPHidden Amidst The Clouds (Dirk Yesod)>deathsPUCK BERSERK: BukiSimimar of the Doria: OnKeter: Zelo + ZhiveteDirk Yesod: Greater YusOko Shtorma: Iotated Greater Yus>youthMagical TrainingPower TestingPlottingTraveling>questAmeno
>>96437868You can just play SRTR mode dude. You don't have to argue in bad faith that your build is legit.
>>96437892i only wish to save those i love from the clutches of fate, if you ask me, i would call that "good faith," among some of the better faiths one can achieveand also want to get into an outer tide and can't really do that on [SRTR], it's not like it's disruptive since other outsider's picks take precedence over malice, but i argue that the act of taking malice is something that occurs before character picks, since it isn't part of the later sections of the cyoa, but a perk, which are taken as the third selection after patron god and sexit's just a gimmick i want to have, it's not like keter languages or Unlimited-Slot-Works
>>96437911Realize that if you give up playing God with their fates, they need not be fated to die.
>>96437858spoils of war.
>>96437889>>languages>All :)I'm not even going to entertain builds that do this shit at this point.
>>96437922they would 100% be fated to die, that's how death letters workby overclogging the system with the deaths of others my companions could flat out drop right after their encounter and i wouldn't be able to do shit about, but i do believe it's better to simply close each of their books and let them face life without me knowing the ending or having the ability to manipulate odds through fate
The entire cyoa is a meta narrative put into place by the elder gods themselves.Do (you) really think they would be defeated by Ch*rlie? Really? And the prophecy on the Old Throne? It’s all fake. A setup for (you).
>>96437947>OR was elaborate Anglerfish baitIt's a funny idea for sure
>>96437947>Elder Gods wants me to have a good timeoh no
>>96437932There is little benefit gained by getting all languages. In fact it’s arguably nerfing yourself. You lose out on polyglot bonuses and pay 5DP for a neglectful wine mom.The benefit is when you unlearn those languages and cash in on that free DP, but that didn’t happen here. Yeah you can get a bunch of companions and mentors, but that also didn’t happen.
>>96437970Case in point: Bilingual Everman lets you take anybody without caring about language restrictions because it cancels out the cost of tutoring them, if they already have it, then you get a point to use for anything else.
>>96437889>>96437970>forced to learn all languages>little time to do anything else>plans are interfered with
>>96437985>Bilingual Everman lets you take anybody without caring about language restrictions because it cancels out the cost of tutoring themTutoring doesn't count for bonuses you could get for that language. You don't get an extra point to do that.
>>96438009Really? Hekc, I'll need to audit myself again.
>>96438013 (me)Everyone already had it or my other primary language. I'm not a cheater!
Too many people know only Everman for it to only be Dis location only.
>>96438009I don't think that's particularly clear in the CYOA. I read "won't allow you to satisfy language bonus requirements" as the language not unlocking bilingual/polyglot bonuses when applied to parents
>>96437116Racism is based off body shapeHowever I have another idea for the next iteration of it when I add maybe 1 or 2 more things
>>96438030Everman is only a primary language in Dis. everywhere else it's like a trade language, something everyone knows a little of but not their actual primary language. In Dis it's probably only Everman thanks to the amount of misfits there, I imagine its second language, Fay, is spoken more often at-home by natives. Especially any Drow or Aranea living there (which is where most of the ones on the continent should be.)
>>96438035That sounds extremely clear. And it is when applied to everything, not just parents. If you tutor a companion in Everman then he won't count for the bonus Everman requirement.>>96437970While not mechanically 'beneficial', knowing all the languages in a world were spoken words have power is a great boon for anyone trying to tinker with the world. People just ignore that because they want more points, same with the insular bonuses
>>96438054"Requirement" is an very odd word choice if it's your interpretation. That's usually used for unlocking something, not for counting up the bonus in a thing you've already unlocked.
>>96437947Duh. The only real person here is me, because I'm the player. The NPCs, Charlotte, even the Elder Gods - they exist solely to entertain us for a few moments.That's what it means to be from a CYOA.
>>96436759Redone my Unbegotten Dreamer build a little. Still can't fit Du'um there no matter how I try, but now I am not hogging Dirk for myself.Also, replaced a cute dark elf princess and her retainers with Savmak. Unbegotten Dreamer - LiadanNormal theme:https://youtu.be/8wYB59azxB8Ascendant:https://youtu.be/p0NwyFbckEA>Patron God SRTR>Perks Outer Tide, Halfbreed, Adoption x2, Dice Fudge (Rhucupre), Untimeskip(Dirk), Extra Mentor.>Parents Mother:Phershepa-from-Erebus (Her'v'); Father: Aat. Adopted: Rhucupre (Yat); One.>Race Majin/Morganic>Languages Everman, Elven-Northerner(Dice Fudge), High Elven, Late Thulean, Drakonian (Quitened), Tutored Everman x1 (Dirk).>Location City State of Dis>Gifts Warmachina Mounting, Look of Chaos, Crooked Caress, Devout Signature, Daemonhost, Intelligence, Cognitive Speed, Wisdom.Bitter Sickness, Wereplague, Memory Retention, Spiritual Feel, Caster Intuition, Attentiveness, Inner Vision x2, Azure Wreath,Ethereal Beauty, Multiocular O, Look of Chaos x1, Starsight x1, Eye for Shadows x1.Dream Passage x3, Autoantecendence (Dream Passage) - growing control over the dream the longer I stay there. Since it costs 6 points while All-Glimpse is 5 I find it fitting.>Mentors Eirina, Upunth, Ielziaseh.>Companions Savmak, Baf, Jarnigit.>Encounters A Bridge, A Toll, A TrollLet The Purgation Begin - Ielziaseh (Tsy)No Way, Highwayman - JarnigitBreaking and Entering - Savmak (Yest')Upward Spiral - Baf (Iotated Greater Yus)Remember About Death - Eirina (Glagoli - Zhivete)Things That Shouldn't be - Upunth (Shta)Crown Into the Gutter (Jdan) - Ielziaseh.Remember the Demon - Eirina.>LetterKako>Youth Magical Training, Pandaemonium, Daemonhunt, Power Testing.>Quest Vanitas
>>96438090straight schizophrenic formatting m8
>>96438099What is wrong? I mostly copied it from someone else's build from the previous thread.
>>96438099Looks readable to me
>>96438109it's just the way you ordered your choices and the weird line breaks makes it so that everything you'd normally see in sequence is all over the place instead, but it's not unreadablealso Pandaemonium and Daemonhunt at once is kind of weird, what's up with that
>>96436463FighterResistance, endurance, magic swordsMageThe ability to recreate the magics of monsters with study, growthThiefSeeing, and not being seen, speed
>>96438123>also Pandaemonium and Daemonhunt at once is kind of weird, what's up with thatPandaemonium is a given with Rhucupre as a parent and my own plans, will try to create a 'moderate' faction of my own there.Daemonhunt to know how they operate and for the access to insider information. With Lelsiaseh mentorship for perfect disguises sounds difficult, but doable.Will basically try to repeat what my adoptive mother pulled off on the Orthrung.
>>96438123nta, but infiltrating one organization as a true member of the other is viable
>>96436463>>96438146Seconded, but if "growth" is only available to one class it's the only one that will be picked.Mages using the abilities of monsters sounds really fun if it can fit, but if that's something that can be done, how is it generally used?Do warriors eat the hearts of great beasts felled to take their right-fully earned power? Do mages often dissect monsters to create catalysts like staves and wands? Are monsters hunted more as to prevent attacks or to harvest materials?
>>96436463>FighterGnosis of the material>MageGnosis of the heavenly>ThiefGnosis of the human(oid) spirit
>>96438175Mages taking the abilities of monsters should be magical study, not gamey nonsense where monsters have magic rocks in themBy doing experiments with living and dead monsters you understand the mechanisms behind them and slowly gain the ability to recreate their affectsYou could hypothetically recreate the effects without test subjects but it would take longerYou may also improve on magic you have learned, refining it beyond the limits of the creatures you copiedIdeallyAlso, warriors getting magic is cool but it should be more complicated, like bathing the the river Styx or sleeping in the still warm hide of a minotaur
>>96438047Everman is a fantasy version of Esperanto. An artificial language dreamt up to be a "neutral" language that wouldn't advantage/disadvantage any culture, as it would be equally hard for anyone to learn, and everyone would have to learn it from scratch (since it was new). Which, of course, meant very few people bothered to learn it.(Think Tolkien's elvish, or Klingon from Star Trek, but without the cool cultural trappings.)
>>96437705>Zero to the power of zero is zero.Actually, it's "one". So Charlotte's god-name can be read as "something from nothing" (like the Big Bang) or a reference to binary. On the other hand, it can also be read as "system error". Which also fits the CYOA's dynamic.
>>96438272No, it's notation abuse and it can be read as "The system doesn't define this, aren't I so smart for seeing it"
Demonic sexo...
>>96438339What is the point of complaining about people being superficial if your only counter arguement is the pose the same things in a superficially bad way?
>>96437307>I think Senku from Dr Stone, and Subaru from Rezero with 20 eyes of fores would be interesting.They're going to be used up, autoacedence one to let it recharge
>>96438357What are you talking about...?
>>96438364Maybe if you'd listen you might hear
>>96436759This might be a really stupid question, but for View of Fore combined with Multiocular O, do you have to have it out at the respawn point or at the death point? Or is it both?
>>96438379I'm listening I just think you are confusing me with somebody else.
>>96436759Is the Ota cheese a Letter's of the Damned exclusive, or can you take Oculus of Human Goodness and just make Charlie incapable of harming you?
>>96436759>In N. V. Gogol's poem "Dead Souls" Nozdryov calls Mizhuev and then Chichikov fetyuks (Fetyuk). Gogol explains it this way: "Fetyuk is an offensive word for a man, it comes from Ѳ, a letter considered indecent by some." The proverb "fita da izhitsa, the rod approaches the buttocks" was based on a comparison of the letter shapes - "izhitsa" as a bunch of rods and "fita" as buttocks (in Dahl's "Fita da izhitsa, the whip approaches the lazy one"). According to a number of linguists, the synonyms fetyuk and fatyuy actually go back to the Hungarian fattyú "illegitimate child".>It is curious that one of V. I. Dahl’s heroes, on the contrary, replaced the letter "Fert with Fito, because Fert was, in Stakhei’s opinion, an even more indecent letter”.Secret SRTR (Fita/Theta) and YMRD (Izhitsa) mother options for Majin Outsiders right there.
Which companions can pilot Greater Warmachina?
>>96438461Geminara
>>96437072I like the dream librarianI wish it weren't az
>>96437072Speedy Spoder
>>96437072The Jötunnsdrottninggen, his rentry text cyoa was fun to read.
>>96436759>Patron: JNPL>Wakhseb the Neophyte (Az)>MalePerks:>True Love x3>>Simka Citzalo>>Zhuchka>>Oko Shtorma>Untimeskip>>Patrikeyevna>Dice Fudge>>Simka Citzalo>Extra Mentor x2>Extra Companion>Outer TideParents>Mother: Siglinda (Greater Yus)>Father: Murzik (Pokoy)>Race: Tumen>Quietened: Salien, Auburn>Bilingual: Everman, Benewhisper>Location: Archaia, Kingdom of Kingdoms / Mamet InteriorGiftsBody>Ethereal Beauty>Thoroughbreeding>Second WindMaladies>Misalignment (Spiritual Feel, Touch of Embedded Rust, Starsight)>Meandering ThoughtMark>Autoantecedence>Blazing Seal>Blazing >Vigilant StrandAppendages>Inner Vision x3>Kneeling Twilight>Shadow FootworkMentors>Patrikeyevna (On Full Stomach, Her'v Yee)>Zu'us (Interested and Dissolved Parties, Tverdo)>Ragratelyn, Doch Yorgana (Wild and Wilder, Iotated Greater Yus)>Reks (Nothing Ever Happens, Yery')>Upunth (Breaking and Entering (Mamet Interior <-> Twelve Riverfold), Iotated Lesser Yus)Companions>Simka Citzalo (Upward Spiral, Myslete Zhivete)>Zhuchka (In A Cell, Izhe)>Oko Shtorma (Iotated Az)Youth: Travelling, Natural Philosophy, Magical Training, Leadership TrainingQuest: LibertaFull Text: https://rentry.org/TreeSonOuterReincarnationI have been writing this for several nights and it's still not done yet.
>>96438754That Inner Vision x3 looks like you try to get benefits of All-Glimpse without the downsides (if even you count them as such).
>>96438807It costs more than All-Glimpse and isn't precognitive nor does it see through walls.
>>96436759Quick question: If my original mother is an Unnotable One do I get 1 or 4 destiny points if I'm adopted by someone else?I assume the difference in points gained is intended to prevent players from taking parents only for their gifts and then getting +6 points on top, rather than the opposite.
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>>96438822Thanks
>>96436759Alright what the fuck is the deal with Darina? Who are the 2 Elder Gods empowering her? and what are her "many unique" Iborn Gifts? What is the infinite nightmare living dungeon she's been fighting every day for 268 years? and who's the ungodly entity that forged it?From her description it kinda sounds like she could solo the majority of characters in the cyoa, and that's WITHOUT her greater warmachina that she lost long ago. So many mysteries surrounding her, and from the look of things she's been single handedly holding back the pandaemonium apocalypse for centuries. Strangest of all is how she's treated as just some regular dudette and not the fucking axis of reality that's holding the end of the world at bay.
>>96438815nta but how do you see your "past lives" when you haven't started reincarnating yet? it seems kinda useless for a fresh outsider.
>>96436601>to be twinsies with sandyAre you in love with him or something? That screams of thirst
>>96438829Purely headcanon here but she may be some form of reincarnation of Vtorusha, the being wh forged the dungeon would then be herself which fits with the whole dream thing. Vtorusha did also have a bunch of inborn gifts, it would fit for multiocular O to do something like splittling your soul into pieces, one for the nightmare, one for the mecha and the others scattered around. This has no basis in reality and the logic error thing probably prevents it.
>>96438836He picked az, so presumabley he means his life and is trying to cheese fate
>>96438829>Who are the 2 Elder Gods empowering herConsidering JNPL is dead I'm guessing it's not her.>who's the ungodly entity that forged it?Rhucuphere maybe, idk
>>96438853No, that's actually pretty normalMost people don't have that strong of a connection with their pfp, so it's like matching hatsYou shouldn't be gossiping anyway
>>96438862>t. Tsundere
>>96438858>Considering JNPL is dead I'm guessing it's not her.She's 268 years old, meaning she was empowered way before JNPL died. So I don't know about that
>>96438829Pretty sure descriptions references Vtorusha, True Dragons and Nightmare which they spawned.She could be a trigger for "doomsday device" type of scenario where her existence is important as she is made as a floodgate against Nightmare which if removed would allow it to flood the world, ending it and by doing so allows Elder Gods to reshuffle it once again.
>>96438829Darina’s dungeon is Aat’s sister’s corpse.
>>96438853Everything i do is in service of my goal to bother and annoy him.
>>96438829>What is the infinite nightmare living dungeon she's been fighting every day for 268 years?It's Bal, Aat's sister.>and who's the ungodly entity that forged it?Some True Dragon, probably.
>>96438853Is a sandaro ship REALLY what we're devolving to?
>>96438880Wow >>96438867 was right on the money
>>96438829Darina is the most experienced combatant in OR by far, besides the actual gods. She’s grinding in that dungeon every minute of every day of every week, unless she’s fighting something even bigger. Scary to think about.
>>96438883I'll take it over the totally-not-multiplayer character dump list wank and shipping we've had the past week
>>96438901I think that makes you a retard
>>96436601Did sandnig's eggshell finally crack?
>>96438829>sounds like she could solo most peopleFrom her background and with all the downsides she has, that’s exactly what she should be able to do.
>>96438754I feel like your asking to become the villain of your own story in how you set this up given your mind will be merging with/consuming the previous one, due to elaborate plans you concocted without your current selfs knowledge so you could personally avoid death. What's saying your incarnation isn't hostile to the strange life seemingly trying to take them over?
>>96438903I know that makes you butthurt
>>96438883Can't be worse than tokXsda
>>96438905that's just SDA bullying him because he kept dunking on him with facts and figuresOR he's competing with aro over sandy by negging him
Why is SDA still relevant? he's the most washed-up author of all time.
>>96438883>>96438889>>96438922You fools, sand x celt has been going on for literal years. My ship can't and won't sink I've been waiting for so long
>>96438856seems a bit ego deathy, it will be like a different person perusing glimpses of your past memories.
>>96438892>>96438906Honestly the fact that she hasn't been ganked by Rhucuphre yet in all this time, is a testament to how terrifying she is. I bet she could no-diff Nimatrix.
>>96438941>said the catposter
>>96438944It's you, without your memories, with your memoriesAre you your memories or not?If you are a continuity, they what if they just reincarnated you very slowly?
>OR discussion pauses>Everyone immediately starts talking about Author drama
>>96438944>this again now I'm convinced you're just shitposting
>>96438941... screamed the stable boy
>>96438950well as they picked AZ, they will grow up as a new individual and after they developed their powers enough in their teens or something, would start examining their past lifes trough this inner eye x 3 thing if it actually works. This isn't like a full memory merge, using a power to inspect these things seems to me more like watching a movie of the past persons life.
>>96438949>>96438958
>>96436134>SMUG>Proud Chumbud>trans rights>Cumblaster69>She/HerI've seen less LE QUIRKY flags on femcel pickmes
>>96438952This is a different topic of discussion, its actually a lot worse than a gestalt memory merge. In this case an Az'ed individual who has developed their own identity trough the standard nature and nurture effects would be using a power to peek into the memories of an old life. This is not pure memory transmission and will most likely be tinged and reinterpreted by the viewers own beliefs and experiences.
>>96438982You've just activated my trap card
>>96438985average female vtuber fan
>>96438754That inner vision x3 thing would be amazing on a native
>Too crafty to lose to a death slot>Too stealthy to find or even noticeHow do you deal with Rhucuphre?
>>96439049who?
>>96439051Damn… she already got anon
>>96439049Make her a mother.
>>96439060And what if she already is?
Rhucuphre is literally us.She is anonymous.
>>96439049Thats for 12th to deal with.Can't expect me to solve everything.
>>96439060I know she’s hot but is that really a good idea?
>>96439049She didn't even do anything wrong.
>>96438941>they hated catposter for he told the truth
>>96438889That's reaching, but what else can you expect from terminally online weeaboos
>>96439098Mentor 11th Dice Fudged into Adoption with another Dice Fudge and Adoption for Rhucuphre.Foolproof.
>>96439060One's boney ass will fix her, or maybe she'll make him worse. It's a win either way.
>>96438880And is he bothered?Or does he not even know you exist, you obsessed shouju grill you
>>96439133he does nothing but think and whine about me all day long. I don't think about him outside of actively bothering him. I have already won.
>>96439137You have won what exactly?HimYou have won him, his mental space as your little colonyWhy did you want to win that guy?Have you totally lost it?
>>96439049Sha and a Betrayal most foul
Did JNPL notice what Rhucuphre was planning before she died? SRTR and YMRD seemed surprised by Pandemonium's ultimate goal while she never seemed to be.
>>96439199>1000+ year old magician without peer who specializes in absolute subterfuge and already escape death onceShe'll see it coming from a hundred miles away.
>>96439226She still had to notice she was given Yat and avoided it the same way anyone else avoids their deaths. Sha puts it entirely in your control, limiting how much she can reinterpret it. Also, that comba was just to make sure she can't run away from, and you can find her. it's still up to you to actually kill her. Your build isn't a jobber, right anon? You'd win right?
>>96439226escapedYou dropped the past tense
It’s funny that Charlie would know where YMRD is if she had bothered to read your gift choices instead of skipping them.
>>96439131Doesn't she hate One's guts though? I saw anons saying something about that, but I forgot what.
>>96439199How could you meet someone with a bone to pick with her when no one knows about her
>>96439235I'd win her heart.
>>96439251Other "immortals" and long lived people exist, I'm sure at least one of them got screwed over by her and sees this as their one chance to get even before she goes into hiding again. Or fate makes her screw over someone new who meets up with you for this plan.
>>96439261Nuh uh, she parries your romantic affections and deflects them onto a Majin whose template is based on her.
>>96439261Based.
>>96439261>>96439060you anons are doing the same thing Keter did with thaumiel, just because the manipulative and mentally unstable girl falls in love with you doesn't remove the whole manipulative or mentally unstable partchances are she will still try to 'betray the world' but keep you alive while doing it at most
>>96439137Does he now?>>96436601I don't see your tramp stamp on him
>>96439297it says it right there, 'Trans Rights'
>>96439293There's nothing wrong with turning an evil dark elf into the mother of your children. It's a time honored adventurer tradition.
>>96439300>SDA did that on his ownApparently someone else already called dibs
>>96439301you are just turning the evil dark elf into an evil high elf mother, she is also VERY likely to manipulate and gaslight you into her side rather than the other way around
>Has longevity>Dies at 75How mentally cucked was Tuzik that he died before his lifespan was more than halfway up?
>>96439049Please, stop trying to kill my mom, cleaning up evidence is a chore.Aren't you already busy with 0^0?
>>96439368JNPL just fucking killed him with Pokoy, can't really run away when the god of death just declares your dying of "old age" now
>>96439368>"and so he got his happily ever after">had two Pokoy letters in his disposalTuzik might have rigged the system.Tam's info was written as "kuudere" for Keter. You can't fully grasp the situation through description.
>>96439393That's even worse, imagine just having it declared that you die of old age despite having like 60-70 years left in you. JNPL mentor was clearly a trap option of the highest order, poor guy.
>>96439368"Alright, I've seen enough. JNPL, let's start the next playthrough."
>JNPL murders you>SRTR makes you live through total, awful bullshit>YMRD gives you free points and shit and helps you unless you're a huge bitch or you make choices so bad she can't fix themI seriously can't believe that there's any dispute over which god to choose.
>>96437065What's disgusting about the image?What's your whole beef with the build?My build (as in the choices) wasn't a joke build by itself - the options were what I would choose for myself (under the restriction of picking zero contacts - because I wanted to avoid overlap with other builds for Outer Tide).The fluff writing was intentionally silly, but I recognize I went too far in that direction. But the build itself is what I'd want for myself.
>>96439412For me it was reading Savmak's profile and seeing YMRD frustrated that she can't really help him out. Lady Luck is very nice for someone supposedly indifferent towards mortals.
Do you guys think that Keter has used up her view of Fore yet?
I need your advice, what do you think would fit a "stars" insipired nation more geography wise?A large and wide river, or a collective of islands?
>>96439412>JNPL helps you not go insane and improves your everyday life and give it Meaning>SRTR throws you random shonen powers ups, power of friendship boosts and will give you and will give you a good ending if you make it look sensible>YMRD throws your way random cryptic puzzles and mess with probabilties in favor of larger plotlines
>>96439436She died a billion times fighting 0^0
>>96439437I think the reflection in the river would be more interesting, but I feel extremely bias about it
>>96439421She wants to avoid excessive suffering.
>>96439443So you're saying 0^0 killed billions?
>>96439443Would that even trigger it? Same with stuff like pixie immortality, view of fore would be kind of useless if you used it up in a scenario where you weren't actually gonna die.
>>96439453Killing Keter is doing the world a service.
>>96439449Yeah same, especially considering the Milky way is viewed as a river in multiple cultures.
>>96439456You can fix her, Anon.
>>96439460No you can't, she's british.
>>96439463A little stabbing never hurted anyone...
>>96439437collective of small islands fit it best, extra points if you add something like islands that only resurface during low tide periods but get swallowed by the sea the rest of the time
>>96439436I am sure.Same with Thaumiel and her Zelo, Zhivete in Outsider profiles.Although her Mentor entry also mentions her having Yee. Either mistake or she and Keter got extra Yees and abused them for Empyreality.
>>96439460I don't want anything to do with her.
>>96439463With isekai, this too can be fixedHonestly with greater yus you can avoid all of keters problems entirely
>>96439477Think of those delicious points.
>>96439474Yee is Thaumiel's Majin letter
>>96439456Why though? She doesn't harm anyone now.
Keter will never know peace, she'll forever be in fear of the Outsider system.Can you really call her a winner?
I'm starting to think that sinding with 0^0 is the only logical decision. Every single old god wants you dead in some way or another. JNPL will write you to death like she did with Tuzuk. SRTR will kill you in a final fight with 0^0 because that makes a great story. YMRD will destroy the whole world and reset it without Charlie, Keter and You. If you dispose of 0^0 you are fucking dead. Every singe anon who wants to fight 0^0 is a fucking idiot.
>>96439496>he fell for it
>>96439496Ok Charlie
>>96439496My thoughts: >>96422625I'd side with Charlie if she could be trusted not to dispose of you afterwards.
>>96439496Nice try, Charlotte.But a bit late for that. I will nuke Poluden continent just like you did Orthrung.
>>96439495No one has ever called Katya a winner, be it in this life or any other.
>>96439510Side with Vtorusha against all the current gods then.
>HUR DUR MAGIC MAKES TECH WEAKERStoopid SO stoooopid……
>>96439300What does that even mean?
>>96439519That should've been your first plan.
>>96439133Who is this smug semen demon?
>>9643949511th from her perspective is scary.Especially one who specifically affect her life.For all the wine mom talk she could just as well have a mental breakdown out of fear of (you).
>>96439496JNPL is the best end though, you get to have Peace in the end.
>>96439534Not my problem. She's a point sow anyway.
>>96438989First time I've seen anything shut the cat poster up
>>96439496the whole ascension system the three goddesses want to do revolves around reincarnation, it's not a secret that they want you to die eventually.> SRTR will kill you in a final fight with 0^0 because that makes a great story. literally no, she hates 0^0 and would love nothing more than an epic hero to take her down, she is just not going to gift it to you in a silver plate because heroes have to earn it>YMRD will destroy the whole world and reset it without Charliealso no, YMRD wants to make a rube goldberg type of plan that immediately ascends everyone at the same time, she might have messed up big time in the past forcing her to reset the world but destroying the world is not something she actively seeks>If you dispose of 0^0 you are fucking dead.if you DON'T dispose of 0^0 you are fucking dead too because she is a genocidal maniaceither this is bait or anon has the reading comprehension skills of a worm
>>96439539You can just off yourself now and have peace in the end. It's easy to say when you are 100 years away from your death. Try to say this just a moment before you die.
>>96439551>either this is bait or anon has the reading comprehension skills of a wormReading comprehension for OR? Less likely than you'd think...
>>96439551Reincarnation isn't real. When you're dead you're dead forever, no matter what.
You can also just be undead with Grey Wandering and/or Enochian Brand. You can just use Ielziaseh's method at glacial pace to satisfy them. By two hundred years you are going to a be a very different person anyway, the method just makes your existence "valid" via very slow perpetual ship of Theseus deaths. Continuity of consciousness is maintained, you're just doing the normal thing of changing over time.
>>96439496Matterheroine my beloved...
>>96439471I was thinking something the shape of pic related, but I just can't get the Sun out of my head whenever I use it and they kind of overlap.I want the Sun nation to be a high plateau to give an Angels kind of feeling.
>>96438903>NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I ABSOLUTELY MUST GOON TO FICTIONAL ELF PUSSY UOOOOOOOOH
>>96439551SRTR will make you an epic hero who take down Charlotte sacrificing his own life.YMRD already destroyed the world 3 times. Nobody ascended. She just want to reset a timeline so Charlie stops being a false god. That's all. You will be wiped with Charlie.It's written that if you don't attack 0^0 overtly, she will leave you alone.
>>96438889Tsundere aromage is funny
>>96439560Then you might as well not play this CYOA since its literally isekai after death.
>>96439568this but unironically
>>96439551I should also mention that even if you kill 0^0+the three goddesses you will still die eventually, the only known way to actually prevent that forever is to ascend during this lifetime, but 0^0 is more likely to kill you for attempting it rather than help you ascend
>>96439568When you need to invent new vices to produce a working criticism you imply the original had no vices worthy of criticisingThank you I suppose
>>96439573>don't attack 0^0 overtly*by her own subjective interpretation of what being "overt hostile actions" are
>>96439573>It's written that if you don't attack 0^0 overtly, she will leave you alone.Considering she plans on conquering the world that's gonna happen sooner or later.
>>96439418It's amazing how builders like to shit on author choices, but then get so very defensive when you critique their own builds whenever they're brasque enough to post any
>>96439304>He doesn't know who sda even isFucking redditourists
>>96439595Not if you side with her.>>96439591You think Charlie is truly murderous maniac or what? If you think Charlie will do such a thing, why are you not afraid of what old gods may do? What's better about old gods?
Aro murdered Gil. There I said it.
>>96439568Well duh? You can't goon about two things in the same threadNew thread wen btw
>>96436759How do you deal with letters of the damned, do you just assume you get exactly what you want or leave it as black box? Personally I rolled a letter and then a concept within that letter to approximate it.
>>96439606>You think Charlie is truly murderous maniacDude she is literally out there exterminating entire species. That's one of her big goals.
>>96439600No, should I?
>>96436601What the fuck is boysmell and why does it sound gross
>>96439589>ahh post
>>96439596What's your problem with OR update? It's the best oc we've had since the hack at least.
>>96439628>zero reading comprehension post
>>96439617Sda in shamblesDon't worry anon hrs just a washed up has-been with a permanent "everyone is stupid but me" chip on his shoulder
>>96439616They wanted to kill her. They had a fucking plan how to kill her. Her actions were justified.
>>96439635Okay, what oc since the hack do you think has been better?
>>96439607He came back from Ukraine, buckbroken by his platoonThe gilubussy has been claimed and ruined forever by Ivan :(
>Rozir, The Vagabond King of Hexen (Vedi)>Patron God[YRMD]>BoonsAdopted x2Halfbreed Dice FudgeUntimeskip: Zu`usExtra Companion x8>ParentsMaiosara Yesod (Tsy)Vesryn of the Doria (Izhe)Sharik (Glagoli)Ruzhana (Zhivete R`tsy)>RaceSouthlander/Eldar>LanguagesPalatinerSprigganSimplified DuergerBenewhisperQuitened - Everman, AuburnTutored: Self [Spriggan, Benewhisper, Simplified Duerger]Sonya [Palitinate]Baf [Palitinate] -2DPMocnaeth from Erebus [Benewhisper] -2DP>LocationEmpire/ExarchateHexland>Inborn GiftsBitter SicknessWereplague x2Royal ClaimMultiocular OOverflowing Pupil x2Grim OutlookMartial InstinctCaster IntuitionPanarmament x2Dream Passage x2ThoroughbreedingCognitive SpeedIntelligenceWisdomSpiritual FeelNoble InclinationLook of Chaos x2Starsight x2Inner Vision x3Icon of IconsAutoantecedenceEvil Eye x2>MentorsArsak (Shta)Zu'us (Zhivete Iotated Ouk)>CompanionsSu’uq (Vedi)Savmak (Iotated Az)Brastat syn Rarruta (Ouk)Mihrdat (Yee Zelo)Sonya (Iotated Lesser Yus)Baf (Iotated Greater Yus)Mocnaeth from Erebus (Lesser Yus)Phersheba from Erebus (Greater Yus)>EncountersA Lone GremlinOn Sick Leave - BafA Pack of GoblinsRemember About Death - Crossed Paths - Arsak and MihrdatA Hop, A Leap, A HobgoblinGreatest of Yus - Zu`usA Score of OrcsA Band of OgresA Bridge, A Toll, A TrollUpward Spiral - BrastatBreaking and Entering - MocnaethA Daring Rescue - SavmakBlood and Guts and Blood And Guts - PhershepaTo Be At War - Sonya>YouthMartial TrainingMagical Training DungeoneeringJourney of the Self>QuestTemperantiaMighty build auditors, before I start adding fluff text to it, is my build legal?
>>96439615I remember Tankista saying that if you are solo you can pick any Letter you want.>>96439606>You think Charlie is truly murderous maniac or what?Reread Evdokia's description. Charlie wants to trap every single soul in permanent stagnation inside magical jails after their death and probably use them for extra power while at it.
>>96439642He wasn't talking about the OR update he was referring to Lich guy being sensitive to criticism which cyoag throws around at authors fairly casually.
>>96439300Likes a right wing tranny?
>>96439137>Everything I do is for him>He totally constantly thinks about nothing but me
>>96439637>thinks exterminating entire species is a reasonable course of action after 1 of them was mean sanest 0^0 followeralso the real reason she started her extermination was because she fucked her build so badly that her parents ended up being slaves in an elven region, the trying to kill her part was after she started exterminating everyone
>>96439646>Gilubussy gilbusted and gilreamed
>>96439403>Tam's info was written as "kuudere" for KeterNo proof that was the system's fault instead of Keter seeing a natural born struggler and thinking they were automatically a kuudere
>>96439653No you said it's amazing when people shit on the author (of OR). Why do you think we so rarely get good oc these days? Do you really think constant shitting on authors is helping this place?
>>96439607Literally who and who?
>>96438853Lmao aro will never recover
My build is the strongest.
>>96439678Are you ESL?
>>96439678>shit on author choicesYou know you're reaching when you have to insert your own brackets with an "it came to me in a dream" interpretation just to deflect
>>96439664If elves just sit down and accept their place under her new empyrean nobility, she would not blow up Orthrung.>>96439652And what's wrong with having a nice afterlife instead of losing your memory with reincarnation? Charlie just want to make a true heaven for believers. She doesn't want them to suffer again after death because some sadistic gods decided to force everyone's ascension.
>>96439647You should add the markings you used for your point calculation if you want someone else to look over your buildA point tracker for each item and one for the sum of each sectionYou put a Zhivete before an Iotated ouk, it should go after. You can't select their death after they Zhivete.You seem to have paid a tutoring fee for teaching yourself languages. you don't need to, it's only for othersYou only used one zhivete, the "Greatest of yus" encounter gives you a second oneYou should sort your gifts
>>96439636Aro or sandCall it
>>96439662Why do I not have an annoying yandere gf :(
All sda does is post videos of cats and frogs and other things
>>96439647You can't tutor yourself, it needs to specifically be a parent, mentor or companion. Wild be weird that you can teach yourself a language you don't know.
>>96439697>still gooning to elvesSuperb cyoa discussion guys
>>96439625Go back
>>96439693>>96439695>you have to insert your own bracketsYou are saying by "author" you meant an author other than the author of OR? What?There's an enormous difference between shitting on authors and providing usable feedback. I can't know in what terms you see /cyoag/, but you spend your time here. I doubt you actually want to spend time in an authorless wasteland either.
>>96439697>If elves just sit down and accept their place under her new empyrean nobility, she would not blow up Orthrung.
SDA? More goose than man.
>>96439729Dimitri is for molestation
>>96439723I meant that authors in general get shit on whatever they do in their cyoa, for tens of threads, and if they get defensive, they get branded as pussies that should go back to plebbit or dicksordMeanwhile the people who build cyoa have an even more fragile egoThat's funnyThat's all
>>96438358The reason I took subaru is because one of the powers is close to what he got, unlike other isekai MC's who would be useless because without powers they would be losers who can't help. But eye of fore is a limited return by death.
>>96439697Fascinating perspective but I have to Letter of the Damned Yest' you now.
>>96439723Let me explain this to you slowly. When the original guy wrote>It's amazing how builders like to shit on author choices, but then get so very defensive when you critique their own builds whenever they're brasque enough to post anyHe was not saying that it's "amazing for people to shit on author choices"He was saying that it is "amazing for people who shit on author choices to then turn around and get mad when people criticize them"
>>96439738Yeah, I know, I'm saying to autoacedence his view of fore to let it recharge.
>>96439662Fuck how did I never notice before how hard of a tsun aro's been to sand
>>96439729You just reminded me how similar Keter is to Edelgard, I hated that dumb girl so much.
>>96439702Gil
>>96439748>Keter>EdelgardNeither did anything wrong.
>>96439669Sloppy seconds sound hot actually
>>96439753Truth. That bitch ??? had it coming.
Crazy how much hate Keter gets when there are way worse people than her in the cyoa
>>96439705You don't make fun of her enough that she can only feel validated by your attention
>>96439714You first aho
>>96439765Thats because none of them nuked a whole continent and never learnt a thing from it.
>>96439765Anons see their most possible future in her.
>>96439765No one's out there raving about how Alezandre did nothing wrong. Keter gets more hate because there's more people in denial about her.
>>96439765Rhupuchre hasn't gotten a Continent nuked.
>>96439765Because Keter is their reflection for the majority of anons.
>>96439769>Aho
>>96439752Aro sexes corpses?
>>96439774That's Charlie.
>>96439403If Tam isn't a kuudere what is she?
>>96439760>t. Aho
>>96439765two wrongs don't make a right
>>96439788Whoops, I confused these two, I've been here too long.
What's with that "I'd never lose and end like Katya so she's trashh"? If you fail, and you will most likely fail, you will be Katya 2.0 for 12th.
>>96439786She likes the smell
>>96439780But she had partially arranged conditions for it to be nuked.
>>96439807>you will most likely failProjection.
>>96439807Nah, I'd go find Reks.
>>96439807>Damn looks like both previous Outsiders failed to kill that bitch but they are still around...>I know! I am going to pick both 10th and 11th as adoptive parents to get free points from selling languages!
>>96439821You overestimate yourself.
>>96439829I know my worth.
>>96439828>Outsider system puts both 10th and 11th in parents category.
>>96439744You can do that? I thought you only got a certain ammount of eyes and when you use them you lose them.
>>96439826Reks stonks will go way up after the majority of anons job to Charlie.
>>96439828>>96439838>Keter and Anon are broken out of depression by the sheer stupidity of 'their' child's choices>Twelfth grows up hearing that he "should have read the bonus pages for fuck's sake"
>>96439852Each View of Fore is an extra life and they cost 3 points each, the idea that Autoantecedence can recharge them seems on the level of permanent Spirit Tap, that is way too powerful to be allowed. But that's my opinion.
>>96439828The 11th(me) speaking to my son the 12th(you)"Damn it you little shit why'd you set me up with Keter you realize she's a lesbo. I barely get any fun time your old man has needs you know. Do you want me to go visit prostitutes? What were you thinking?"
>>96439685What is it with this obsession over an obvious tranny's desperate attention whoring attempts?
>>96439838It's like jnpl is still with us
>>96438606What's the problem with Az?
>>96439838>JNPL puts both 10th and 11th in parents category.>>96439865>One day for no reason at all Keter and Anon got really depressed, drunk and had one night stand
>>96439878>not going to prostitutes without whiningngmi
KPop Demon Hunters CYOA when
>>96439880You uh, just answered your own question Anon
>>96439884It means they aren't really one of us, and that the author isn't actually going on the journeyIt lessens the whole fun of interacting with someone else when they take their identity out of the characterI want to go on an adventure with anon, not with an npc anon wrote. the author already wrote npc's like that
>>96439896Please, PLEASE kys
>>96439896never, because the only thing worse than franchise slop, is zoomer brainrot franchise slop.
>>96439811Unproven allegations. Rhucuphre is a magician of good repute.
>>96439907Really?Is the zoomer part what brings it down?If it were rick and morty would that make it much better?
>>96439902You're already going on an adventure with Anon (and Anon and Anon and...). Do you value Outsiders more than natives?
Damn, Charlotte was stacked when she was a human. Did she just choose her mother based on who had the best rack?
>>96439893Well yeah I gotta bitch to you about something. So my wife is what I choose.
>>96439918Yes, I do
>>96439919You didn't?
>>96439865How do you think you access the bonus pages in universe, does YMRD just leave a conspicuous pile of paper behind one of the pillars.
>he had the chance to be a big titty anime girl>he chose a mother with a small rackNgmi
>>96439918>Do you value real people more than fictional people?You don't?
How many Outsiders are going True Dragon?
>>96439936Well Charlotte is literally drawing over the text in JNPL's blood so I assume we're seeing images somehow.The bonus pages would be like YMRD passing you her notes when nobody's looking.
>>96439918"This world is fiction. We are the only things that are real within my sight. The rest are all disgusting lies. If this is so, then it doesn't matter what we do to others.No matter how depraved or horrible our actions could be, I consider it all to be meaningless. In light of that, it is my obligation to drag this world through the mud and ruin the tale, whatever it might be.There is only us, and even the narrative of fate is merely an illusion. It is up to me to prove to the storytellers that their works are worthless, to punish them for daring to make something like this.And so, I shall inflict as much dread and suffering as I possibly can. I know they cannot avert their eyes. I shall tear out the heart of what they consider to be their marvel, for what they depict is beautiful cannot possibly be anything but abominable."—11th Outsider
>>96439952She is such a bro
>>96439916It’s more that the zoomers consist of insufferable girls too. It’s Taylor Swift tier bad.
>>96439953Hateposter... I kneel.
>>96439953Did the Elder Gods even give a fuck about the True Dragons? The Outsiders hated and hunted them down, but I'm not sure about the Elder Gods.
>>96439956A bro that suck cocks for lore
>>96439957So 40 year old women are your preference?Disturbed, sickening reallyMillenial women have none of the virtues a woman should grow with age and all of the flaws
>>96439916>implying rick and morty isn't zoomer brainrotlmao, if it wasn't made before 2010 then its zoomer trash.
>>96439964Why should they? The Outsider System was already launched when they started. Obviously evil plotlines like that were going to be resolved by an Outsider eventually.
>>96439965NoOnly I will fuck ymrdI already have the build for it
>>96439945Hopefully no one. True dragons lose to everyone, the only faction more pathetic than them is the lichyard. True dragons carry the essence of failure.
>>96439979>he needs a dedicated build to fuck people>he did extra credit for pussyLMAO
>>96439979based
>>96439986I have the build to fuck you ready too
>>96439991I bet you can't even get unnotable ones kek
>>96439980They were false dragons. I’m built different. I’d win.
We've won outsiders, the authorposters have fled
>>96438829According to the timeline, the True Dragons 'unraveled' Bal, Aat's sister, to turn her into a dungeon as revenge. So it was basically torture/soul violation.
>>96439783It's dumb is why
>>96439967Millennials are also part of the problem.
>>96440009>they soul violated his sisterI'd go ballistic too.
Cyoa authors, but as a K-pop boyband.
>>96439736And they deserve it
>>96440025Cancelled in 2 weeks
>>96439662He'll never have sex with you sand
>>96439617He's the guy who runs our discord
>>96439418You're funny
>>96439736>Meanwhile the people who build cyoa have an even more fragile egoI don't have a fragile ego. I simply made the strongest white male that get all the exotic women and will never die and is respected by all. Anyone who didn't pick the same choices as me is retarded, wrong, and south american.
>>96439133Are you honestly expecting a genuine answer from the faggot that cries about getting bullied to his janny boyfriend?
>>96440048>white maleBrazilian, or jeet?
Are we playing good cyoas yet or are the reddit hordes still taking over
>>96440057Read the spelling errors he's been making all threadJeet
>>96440062No1curr
>>96440062well you're still here so its a obviously the latter
>>96440024Well they're all dead now, thankfully. Except Araith and Vtorusha at least. Don't let your dragon girlfriend turn out like the rest of her race.
>>96440070no worries Gunter will fix her
>>96440070No worries I will make her worse.
>>96439896I like the movie, but no. There are idol cyoa in /trash/ if you really want something.
>>96440082>I like the movieA woman? On the internet? Here? I don’t believe you.
>>96440024Pick Sibling option.
>>96440070Neither of them is a true dragon
>>96440095I don't want the Tide to rape my sister bros...
>>96440063Yeah but there's also the self loathing towards South Americans to consider
>>96440103I wouldn'tAlthough I might make love to her, if it's an optionWhy, do you have a hot sister?
>>96440096Look at Vtorusha's build again. Also, you didn't pick up the implication from Araith's condition, how her human form is the adopted one, how her true form is a nightmare centipede island beast, none of that is how Drakonids are.
>>96440115This is why Outer Tide was a mistake
>>96440088Not often you get a "western" made animated movie that has proper fanservice of the men with some fun fight scenes. It's not something that deserves any particular rewards but I recognize the appeal and potential for future. I like what I like.
>>96440119Having a true dragon parent doesn’t make you a true dragon, nor does the solipsism gift. Araith is explicitly not a true dragon per the text.
>>96439567when you said a collection of islands I was picturing more something like an archipelago with the islands kind of looking like a constellation from above I think the biggest reason why that image looks more like the sun is because the outer ring makes it too circular. But at the same time I don't think it would be 'wrong' if it looked a bit like the sun nation as the sun is a star.
>>96440070Aren't there three of them hiding underground?
>>96440151They were all killed by Dei and the Longest March.
>>96440127Araith isn't technically a True Dragon since they can't be born anymore, what she seems to be is a prototype new True Dragon. Maybe she exists because the nightmare has gotten so out of hand that the concept is sneaking back into reality. It seems Vtorusha argumentation skills were ultimately lacking.
>>96439945I want to reshape the dragons into something divine but not entirely assholes. Taking the Solipsism at a more positive angle.
>>96440168Same
>>96439945>>96440168I feel like you could combine the roles thing with solopsism to create a sort of "main character" role. Your story isn't the only one with meaning, but it's the main one around which the world revolves.
>>96440062No we live in the grim future of outer reddit and discord drama
Pst. Hey kid.You can min-max on Siblings with Iotated Ouk, Iotated Az, Iotated Greater Yus and good parents.
>>96440167Araith is a drakonid, just a really weird nightmare flavored one. The same way Esu is a majin, just a really weird nightmare flavored one.
>>96440127True Dragons aren't a real race, anon. They're mage-cultists who turned themselves into dream monsters. And Vtorusha counted as one enough that arguing them out of existence backfired and put her into a logic failure loop.
>>96440175Exactly. It's fine to recognize yourself as the only real existence but I want to take the viewpoint into being more parental than antagonistic to others. As the only real existence, it's my responsibility to help others create their own meaning and story in life. The narrative is my entertainment but also the child I care for. Dragons under this mindset will still see themselves as superior and look down on others but in a way that's similar to looking down on something you feel the need to help and care for. And I want Chinese dragons.
>>96440184Nta, but it's clearly stated that Araith would be a true dragon if only Vtorusha didn't patch creation of true dragons. Also Araith is 5 cost companion. That alone says that she's incredibely important and powerful. On par with Evdokia and Ota.
>>96440206Cringe
>>96440199>True Dragons aren't a real raceThey were one since their childrens would be true dragons, that's why there are a lot of true dragon eggs, even if the offspring can't be one because they were argued out of existence. Only some of them likely were mage cultists who turned themselves into them.
>>96440199True dragons are directly identified as an extinct race in the drakonid race description. If we saw a true dragon it would say true dragon for its race.
>>96440213Just like Omega is Empyrean.
>>96440208“would be” is the important phrase there. I have never claimed or implied that Araith isn’t powerful. She’s just not a true dragon, the same way Erginter and Paxxia and possibly (You) wouldn’t be true dragons
>>96440219Read the Just a Nightmare event.
>>96440212To each their own. My paternal instincts are too strong not to be an influence in it.
>>96440239The events mentioned there happened long before the outsider system even existed anon, they started breeding true afterwards. The questioning about it is in the sense that 'True' dragons never existed in the first place, they and all other draconic races are descendants of those mage cultists.
>>96440239That has nothing to do with this
>>96440219It's not that simple. It could be that true dragons are just another way to beat death, just like undead and empyreans. That would mean that the fact that Araith is a drakonid just means that she's mortal unlike true dragons.
>>96440287It is that simple. True dragons, all true dragons, could reproduce, which is why they have eggs and why multiple outsiders have chosen them as their parents. They became a regular race and they aren’t around anymore. Undead and Empyreans aren’t like that, with the one exception of Omega who was produced by a god.
Sda is kyute
>>96440181>exploitBereft of Meaning.
>>96440287The thing about “true” is a semantic argument that the other dragon races have more claim to be true because they didn’t have an artificial origin. It’s not saying that they’re not actually a race.
If making more empyreans robs them of meaning, breeding omega, and then breeding the daughters you've had with omega, Is a valid and constructive way to take down the ecumene
>>96440333Don't forget to breed Keter and Thaumiel too.
>>96440333>11th min-max on inbron gifts and take Thoroughbreeding and marries Omega.>12th arrives and marries 11th's daugther
>>96440333>>96440343All infertile.Become an elder god or get out the test tubes.
This threads quality got so much better when the Outsiders showed up.
If you start with Thoroughbreeding and Daemon Host, what is the largest amount of demon lords you could realistically sire before 0^0 invades?
>>96440378>This post fact checked by the real Exarchate patriots
>>96440393That's inefficient.You need to pick Letter of the Damned which Xian had so you can just spawn Daemonhost Majins as you wish.
>>96440393Use feodwra to time accelerate the pregnancies and be constantly reproducing with a new woman assuming an hours movement time on average and the invasion taking place at age 30 you could have roughly 100,000 at a minimum age of 8 by the time she arrives. To do this you would need 6500 women to ensure that everything works out, which is doable if you just mass-produce majin designed for it from birth. Though this would likely lead to a similar situation as charlottes empyreans.
>>96440321Such is the path of the Mathemagician. To reduce the world to nothing but bare numbers. There is no such thing as 'soul' in any give work.
>>96440356>All infertile.Scientists have determined this to be false.
>>96440436What scientists?
>>96440417You can impregnate more women in a day than you can spawn specific templates. We need to maximize.
>>96436759>Patron GodSRTR>ReincarnationName: Shtana Yudi the Spellsinger Occupation: Travelling Bard Questing Age: 19yrsGender: Male Destiny Points: +20Family Points: +20 Companions: +3Mentors: +2Death Slot: (A/DOBRO)>Additions (-1dp/-2ap)Extra Mentor -1dp/-2apUntimeskip -0dp (Feodwra)>Parents (-4ap)Mother: Sigilinda -3ap (Death Slot/A) (ZELO)Father: Fot -1ap (Death Slot/A) (IOTATED LESSER YUS)>Location of BirthCity State of Dis (+1Mentor Slot)>Race Majin>Inborn Gifts (-16ap/+2ap)Attentiveness -0ap (Mind)Spiritual Feel -2ap (Mind)Caster Intuition -0ap (Sense)Intelligence -2ap (Mind)Inner Vision -0ap (Right Eye)Starsight -2ap (Left Eye)Noble Inclination -2ap (Sense)Wisdom -2ap (Mind)Seraphic Wings -1ap (Wings)Phantom Wingspan -1ap (Wings)Daemonhost -0ap (Other)Devout Signature -1ap (Mark)Dream Passage -1ap (Left Leg)Shadow Footwork -0ap (Right Leg)Stigmata -1ap (Mark)Longevity -0ap (Lifespan)Letters of the Damned -0ap (Her´V) (Sigil and Nobility) (Rolled_1d45)Thoroughbreeding -1ap (Body)Wereplague +2ap (White Fox Form)>Languages (-5dp/+6dp)Quietened +2dp (Auburn) (Salian)Everman -0dpSimplified Duergar -2dpNymphe -2dpOld Northern -1dpPolyglot Bonus: +4dp>Mentors (-9dp)Alisa -2ap (Death Slot/B) (YERY)Feodwra -4dp (Death Slot/C) (SHA)Kilyn of the Orthrung -1dpLukag Syn Barirousa -2dp (Death Slot/B) (YER)>Team A Companions (-5dp)Blazhko -1dp (Death Slot/A)(MYSLETE) (Mentors: Arsak/Gewrgin/Kashtanka/Leimeie)+Mentor Death Slots (C/-/C/C) (YAT/-/SHTA/TSY)Oko Shtorma -4dp (Death Slot/C) (IOTATED OUK+ZHIVETE)>Team B Companions (-6dp)Gunter Lilim -1dp (Death Slot/A) (GREATER YUS)Brastat Syn Rarruta -0dp (Death Slot/C) (GLAGOLI)Dobrava -0dp (Death Slot/A) (IOTATED GREATER YUS) Omega -0dp/-5dp (Death Slot/W) (OT)
>>96440443Me.
>>96440447>Encounters In Order 1. Let the Purgation Begin (Meeting of Alisa)2. Breaking and Entering (Meeting of Lukag) (From Underground Doria to Poluden)3. No way Highwayman (Meeting of Feodwra)4. Interested and Dissolved Parties (Meeting of Blazhko)5. Remember the Demon (Return of Feodwra)6. Immortal Coils of Intrigue (Meeting of Gunter)>Extra Note: Age after all encounters should be 28yrs>DLC Mode/Side-Encounters (Dobrava Edition)Blood and Guts and Blood and Guts (Blue Superiority/Heterodoxy Victory)On the Edge (Save them) (Ask for Kalliopa Aureole as a companion)Hidden Amidst the Clouds (Acquire records on True Drakonic Solipsism)>YouthJourney of the Self (Enjoy Childhood)Martial Training (Self Explanatory)Profane Lore (Study World History)Parental Support (Be a better son than ever before)>QuestE´nomineWent in with a plan, should it fail i do hope YMRD can offer some assistance, since she owes me for Omega.So what are my chances?
>>96440450Oh ok carry on
>>96440393It's more of a matter of logistics do you have enough resources to feed and sustain such a number.
>>96440443I tested the matter directly and extensively.
Outer Reincarnation DLC when? I want more quests to go on with my party.
>>96440467Make it yourself anon.
>>96440453>Acquire records on True Drakonic JobbersThis is where you lost me anon. True Dragons suck!
>>96440478I am not well informed enough about the lore to be able to create quests outside my own interests. There would be nothing about Doria and Vto.
>>96440492Then just make one or two and a format so others can make the rest for thingst they're interested in.
>>96440505And how did that work out for jumpchain hhmmm?Years of content and adventures and a community that rivals cyoag as a wholeDo you really want that for OR?
>>96440435A lot of Charlies this time around.
>>96440467This was the DLC technically.
>>96440444You're not accounting for gestation time, 5-10 fully mature demon lords every day is a far better option
>>96440527It won't last forever. Just a while longer.
>>96440553Gestation time is effectively just start up unless all the demon lords your creating are also demonlord printers which would be completely insane.
>>96440453>(Meeting of Gunter)You don't pick any encounters for Gunter, he's there for all of yours instead
>>96440553There's plenty of women out there.
>>96440553>>96440444You should be doing both.
>>96440505Almost considering this.
>>96440576You'll likely run in this issue >>96440455 soon enoughRemember, you'll also have to take care of and raise that many demon lordsHonestly you don't need that much, Charlie destroyed a continent with 10-14 fused demon lords used as a bomb. A single demon lord has been stalling the Ecumene for decades. Spamming that many demon lords is likely to just nerf them by reducing their meaning.
Remember guys, this is a narrative world so https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu is in full effect. There's a reason Charlie's army of Empyreans and Giant Empyreans are(by Tankista) considered such jobbers that (You) are expected to be able to amass an army of normal people and push their shit in.
>>96440447How did you get it in this templatet. rarted
>>96440656He blew tankista
>>96440287>three tall and thin linesSha? Or Shta?
>>96440571Fuck, well whatever. Not a superimportant quest anyhow.>>96440656someone sent me a link back during the whole multiplayer years ago.
>>96440393You can spawn in mothers with demonhost, which basically means you're always going to be limited by >>96440455 rather than number of women. So the answer really depends on how rich you are. Personally, I think your best bet is to install an ally as Empress of Light and Dark, and commit your kids to their military. You'll basically have a blank check from the largest empire on the continent if you do that.
>>96440630>are expected to be able to amass an army of normal peopleBut I'm using nightmares?
>>96440681The three Elder Gods' pillars. Recall that the True Dragons wanted to do what Charlotte ended up doing.
>>96440681I think it might be the three pillers
>>96440695Technically only Xian could spawn Demonhosts directly, the rest of the demon lords are simply direct descendants of the original ones.
Do we know what Xian's letter is?
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>>96440994I'm staying here.You have to go on without me.
>>96441003I'm not leaving your side
If you just start on Mamet and ignore Ecumene, 0^0 will not be your problem until 12th comes.
>>96441032>if you just start on the country that's going to start a massive offensive on the Ecumene, the Ecumene won't be your problem
>>96440756"With" was ambiguous, but I meant can spawn mothers (using) demonhost, not you can spawn mothers (who have) demonhost. Point being the limit is very much not the number of majin babies you can make, but how many you can feed.
What exactly happened with Orthrung. Is it possible to travel there? It's like post-nuclear wasteland where nothing can live or the land just doesn't exist anymore? Or it's a dreamworld now. Or something else?
>>96441003But I'll miss you....
>>96441103It's on the mapThere are still several urukThe whole thing is covered in salt so that no plants can grow and no animals can drink the water there
>>96441025We have to, anon. For anon. It's what he would've wanted.
>>96441469But anon loves anon, anon
