Previous Thread: >>96415102Red edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQ:Why do aggrotards claim to be oppressed by blue when every set they get increasingly comprehensive tools that completely shut down the color?
>>96437170>Why do aggrotards claim to be oppressed by blue when every set they get increasingly comprehensive tools that completely shut down the color?When have they ever said they were oppressed by blue?Shit like this breaks their assholes more.
>>96437170>Mono red spidersI don't think that will be a thing.
Fresh thread. Real TQ:Post your commanders! Tell us about the decks. What are you working on?
>>96437217We literally just did that
>>96437230Now it isn't immediately becoming a new thread. I also didn't ask for your next commander project when I asked for that.
>>96437217Xu-Ifit is the commander of my next Reanimator project. It'll be my first attempt at a mono-colored deck.
>>96437230Beats this retard's "tq".
>>96437217STILL EGGSIf people pay their Eggman tax, then we kill them with various discard punishments and wheels. If they don't, we bash in the retards convinced I don't have anything.I am not working on future decks. I have enough. I'll see if Spider-Man has shit I want. I have some interest in a villain tribal deck but I highly doubt there will be enough.
How's your sneedcoin bros? We holdin?
>>96437237I don't get how you are supposed to best use that guy.
What's the best Rakdos aggro tribal? I own stuff like Cover of Darkness and want to MURDER
>>96437185I'm currently building a Simic deck, so noncombat damage is kinda out for me.
>>96437217These are some of my commanders and I'm currently working on Golbez might wait to get Eggman to make a full on artifact deck but who knows
>>96437263It's a bit of headscratcher, that's for sure. I am thinking maybe milling high-powered creatures like pic rel that have significant downsides as skeletons with no powers and then beat face with them.
>>96437217Syr Konrad. Working on it right now, having fun digging through my black binder. Gonna go through artifacts when I get home.>>96437264Dragons are pretty good for just turning shit sideways. Kolaghan, or Ganax + B.Background (Iron Throne, Haunted One, etc)
>>96437278*milling and then reanimating
>>96437278That seems the most direct way to build it.
>>96437263put the death's shadow in the yardtap xu-xuget a free 13/13alternatelyput the 7 mana black thing that kills everyone in the yardtap xu-xuget a vanilla 6/6 or whateverput it in the conjuror's closetfree massacre wurm/abhorrent overlord/elder brain/rune-scar/etc
>>96437170>good spider support card>red because fuck all the actual spiders
>>96437217I think I'm going to throw together Tifa tomorrow.
>>96437322>he doesnt remember Thantis
>>96437236Fair enoughMy 3 mostly solidified decks are>Selvala explorer return prison>Gay kings group hug>Child of Alara charmsI have long term projects I am slowly working on. The 10 primeval dragons. I swap about every 3 mo. Current roster is>Darigaaz: bracket 1 "the rock"/boomer jund stuff I try to swap a lot of cards frequently with this deck since its basically a value pile. >Dromar: ETB/Sac/orhzov drain thing. The list isnt really done yet. >intet: Dedicated splintertwin deck. Never tested.>oros: life as a resource w/ way-to-lost-in-the-sauce doomsday lines >treva: based on the counterpost standard deck from when I was a kidThen I have my 5 mono colored decks that are meant to be played against eachother in a closed meta. Then I have my deck and my wife's deck for a different closed meta concept but with 2 colored decks. Then I have the 5 starter decks, pic related, for basically a third attempt at a closed meta. I had a blast playing them on MTGO when they were new. At least the two black decks need SERIOUS work to keep up with the other 3 but I need to be careful because the decks are very fragile and very low power.And lastly I have been trying to build an all old border deck. Been testing and really shocked at how bad they turned out.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96437278dont forget to add skeleton tribal shit, its too bad he isnt orzhov cause it would be pretty interesting with flicker stuff
>>96437345>>DarigaazBased but only if you're running the Igniter
>>96437278>>96437297Makes sense.
>>96437356the shtick is that he's got the cheapest, easiest to repeat reanimation method in the game, but has the downside of no abilities. so instead of working around a cost of sacrificing creatures, discarding cards, paying life, or whatever, you have to untap him and you reset the creature if you want creature abilities. either monoblack flicker or monoblack "big creature with a downside" tribal.or skeletons.
>>96437350Wouldn't Skeleton Tribal abilities be negated by Xu-Ifit if I am reanimating new creatures after I cast an anthem?
>>96437351Please, oh course it's the igniter. I don't have the most recent version. This one has world gorger and that hadnt been in the deck since at very least brackets dropped.https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-molten-loop/
How do you guys feel about these for Konrad?
>>96437369>downsideI remember downsides. Wish they would do them more.
>>96437263stiflenaught but in black
>>96437374anthems (creatures you control get +1/+1, or have keywords) apply to 'creatures you control' and so would apply to creatures that enter after.if you have the skeleton pirate that buffs skeletons, it applies as long as you control both skeletons. if you cast a sorcery that says 'each creature you control gets +1/+1' then that wouldn't apply to stuff that enters after.
>>96437388You really are the worst poster in this general and that's saying a lot.
>>96437388>Bone HarvestThis card is confusing me, does it mean you get to draw an additional card on your upkeep that is separate from the one you draw on your draw step?
>>96437388oh, I didn't realize Grave Purge was (basically) a functional reprint. Forever Young also does this at sorcery.
>>96437408Reading the card explains the card.
>>96437408the next upkeep. so, under normal circumstances, your opponent's.
>>96437415Oh wait, I misread it. Nevermind.
>>96437412I'll need to grab Gravepurge and Forever Young, that's for sure>>96437408It's like Arcane Denial. It's at the start of the NEXT turn's upkeep, so you draw on the next player's upkeep.>>96437402Hehehhhehehehheuheuehuehuehuheuehueh
>>96437401Thanks, anon.
>>96437323BASEDBASEDBASED
>>96437263Not the biggest guy you can bring back, but he looks sick so i'm going to post him.
>>96437431I think Etali got turned into one of these.
>>96437440Very similar, just with some green food colouring.
>>96437345The sleeves for your decks alone cost $200, you coulda built something decent.What possesses someone to have this many shitty decks?
Sex with Eldrazi.
>>96437332there's a grand total of 4 spiders with red prior to spider man set, thantis being one of themand the 3 others are not particularly goodnor is Thantis anything resembling a good spider commander
>>96437388dreadhound I get for being a second copy of konrad.I feel like angel is a bit slow though.chain of smog exists only to two-card combo kill with a magecraft trigger. monoblack only has the pest maker and professor lili though.dismember sure is a card that is run in cedh. I think they just use plain old reanimate rather than victimize though. even exhume.I feel like dark deal is just going to give your opponents more gas. compare and contrast ill-gotten gains.I don't know about rottenmouth. I get it, but I'm not sure where you're getting permanents from.
>>96437470Sounds complicated and painful.
>>96437476Thantis is red and also Green/Black, the two main spider colors. Adding Spider Punk gives Thantis and all of your other spiders Riot and functions as a redundancy with Rhythm of the Wild. What's the complaint here?
>>96437460Cedh broke my brain
>>96437483I can see where you're coming from. Gonna put Chain of Smog back, same with Angel just for being too slow. Maybe I'll put Angel in Golbez as a defensive self-mill option.Dark Deal is both a nice way to empty hands, but ties in with Chains of Mephistopheles to effectively turn the game into topdeck mode. I'm gonna look up ill-gotten gains, maybe Victimize isn't all that good but it moves 3 creatures around instead of 1 or 2. Lemme check if I have a Reanimate now that you mention it
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T PLANESWALKERS BE COMMANDERS
>>96437505wotc will eventually rule this, just be patient.
>>96437492>>96437483Found a Reanimate, I also have an Animate Dead. Here's the other stuff i found that might be interesting
>>96437505Only hot crazy women can be no room for gays in the zone
>Double-sleeved cards curl>precon foils curl in the packaginghow fucking dry is my house god damn
>>96437519Why the FUCK is Balemurk 30 dollars???????
>>96437545standard
>>96437528That's why I don't like foil cards, they curl too easily.
>>96437476>nor is Thantis anything resembling a good spider commanderSpiders have big butts and deathtouch, making them good blockers the turn cycle you play them and hard to block afterwards.
>>96437556This. Thantis uses Spiders fantastically.
>>96437525>tfw no Ugin as commanderI will never not find it baffling that someone who wants to stop/contain the Eldrazi is their #1 buff machine.
>>96437528>>96437554Foils curl if you look at them funny. I have no idea why this issue is exclusive to MTG or why WOTC doesn't fix it.
>>96437519balemurk seems slow, that's all I can think of here. barrowgoyf obviously synergizes a lot, but I'd have to see how big it ends up.
What’s cards would be excellent in your decks but you refuse to use them because they’re ugly?
>>96437511Which planes walkers should I pick up before they’re legal and even more expensive?
>>96437575I figure early game, I play it for its impending cost, and late game i can play it for 5 without much worry. Thank you for your analysis, anon. I worry about making this pretty bad, since I'm aiming for high 4/low 5.
>>96437323Hello based department
>>96437583Teferi, Time RavelerOko, Thief of Crowns
>>96437562You're not alone. People thought he was going to be a secret second BBEG for years because his writing and card design was so awful.
>>96437486>>96437476Thantis is ridiculously overcosted and underpowered for today's commander meta. If it were printed today it would have ward 5 and deathtouch and probably a card advantage ability as well.
>>96437612>I wanted a way to use red spiders that can benefit spiders>WAAAAHHHH NOT THAT ONE!!!then shut the fuck up and stop whining?
>>96437612>I cant ramp in jund!!>AAAAAAAA I CANT WIN WHEN EVERYONE IS FORCED TO ATTACK (AND ALWAYS LOSE TRADES WITH THANTIS)git gud.
Never knew a waifu version of thantis existed. This changes things...
i put this (or a proxy copy) in every black deck i have, its stupidly goodMDFCs in general are underplayed as fuck although i wish they were less expensive
>>96437634>MDFCs>underplayedEvery cEDH deck maxes them out bro, what are you talking about?
>>96437640lol i dont play that faggot shit, making EDH competitive is like playing competitive thumb wrestling
Never played winota beforeAt a glance how would this deck perform?https://moxfield.com/decks/FQ2llEVF2k6oMUoXVA16XA
>>96437666Like any other Winota deck that ever existed. You beat everybody to death out of nowhere the frist time. Your playgroup learns that Winota needs to be killed on sight and you will never win again.
>>96437682what if you just play hatebears and stax them sp they cant KoS her
Im tired of going up against kids and teens at the local LGS that make the dumbest fucking moves and treat assessment every game.Kid plays insta mill your deck, I stop playing group hug and Voltron him and he acts offended and mad.Kid kills group hug commander turn 2 that was helping him and gets mad when the entire table targets him.My other favorite is going against the most boring ass pushed commanders and then whining when people say it's boring (Jodah, Asei, Slivers, Norn, Ur Dragon, Yuriko, etc) and then raging when I pull out some combo deck to kill them.How do you teach zoomers to learn threat assessment and good plays?14 year old decided to kill my group hug commander giving out life gain and mana instead of the 12/12s with trample and menace that targeted him for the rest of the game (a long with the rest of the table).
>>96437707You have autism
>>96437632anon, that's very clearly a custom proxy
>>96437731Picture the 40-year old neckbeard who typed up this tripe. Some kind of weirdo who hangs out with teenagers and gets all passive-aggressively mad when they don't play his children's card game the way he likes it.
>>96437771Based. If you're over 25 and play magic then you are a cringe fedoralord pedo
>>96437782do you have a learning disability? That's not what that post said.
>>96437634If this wasn't nearly 30 dollars, I'd use it Laid out what I'm putting in so far
>>96437817What did it say then?
>>96437782PROF, GET DOWN
>>96437854No hate but you really love taking pics of that Chains, don't you?
>>96437881maybe you're just noticing it because you're jelly
why do you turn off your trip for half your posts, noone will care if you flame an anon for being "jelly", it just makes you look like a faggot for no reason
>>96437940I'm actually not swordbro, but my intention was in fact to make him look retarded, so im glad it worked
>>96437940He flexes that thing all the time, why not have your trip on for a random flex?
>>96437580Play the other one then.
>>96437632just like make you're own
>>96437956reeeeee
>>96437940Because those posts aren't him. Are you fucking retarded?
>>96437881You caught me, if I can slot it into a picture, I usually will.Curious what you guys think about these as potential includes. The Tinybones is explicitly because it's a trigger and not a replacement effect, so I'd get the Konrad/Dreadhound trigger before stealing it.
>>96437980>Ad NauseumIf you use that, your deck becomes an automatic 5.
>>964379925 what?don't tell me you use brackets lingo, anon.
>>96438003>dont tell me you use the official rules anonKill self now
>>96437980>Tainted Strike>Glistening OilMaking Konrad have infect doesn't matter if they have blockers.
>>96438023Infect is all damage, not combat damage>>96437992I'm aiming for 4/5, anon. I just worry about not having enough life to dig for anything good. My wincon is just making shit burn with Konrad or drain with Dreadhound. Bloodchief Ascension/Mindcrank could be a good combo too since I intend to use Crank.
>>96437871>>96438023Youre dumb and bad. Conrad damages players with his ability. These read>if ten creatures are milled, you win the game
Noob question: if I have Harmonic Prodigy out and I pay the offspring cost for CM, does that count as an ability and get 2 tokens?
>coolest fucking art>dogshit spell
>>96438053offspring causes an ETB to become available which would be doubled by harmonic prodigy
>>96438053Yes, offspring basically adds an ETB trigger. So you'll get 2 tokens and all 3 of them can ping twice too.>>96438038Based and correctpilled
>>96438053It isn’t a permanent or creature, and it’s not a trigger, it’s an additional cost, like kicker.
>>96438061Ah thats right>>96438064It gives a trigger if you read the text, what a weird way to duct tape rules together.
>>96438068No you were just wrong and speaking without knowing what you were talking about.
>>96438060eh it's useable
>>96437323Welcome to Team Green Queen fren Proxy because I hate Tifa's remake burka
>>96438105>burka (sports bra)
>>96438053Yes.However, judging by your "does that count as an ability", it looks like you need to learn the specifics about abilities.There are four types of abilities: spell, triggered, activated, and static.- Spell abilities are the ones on sorceries and instants.- Triggered abilities start with "When", "Whenever", or "At".- Activated abilities are formatted as [Cost]: [Effect].- Static abilities are statements.All rules text (any text not italicized) in a card's text box is some form of ability. Reminder text is not official rules text.Some abilities are represented on cards as keywords, to save having to put their full rules text on the card. >702.175a Offspring represents two abilities. “Offspring [cost]” means “You may pay an additional [cost] as you cast this spell” and “When this permanent enters, if its offspring cost was paid, create a token that’s a copy of it, except it’s 1/1.”“You may pay an additional [cost] as you cast this spell” is a static ability.“When this permanent enters, if its offspring cost was paid, create a token that’s a copy of it, except it’s 1/1.” is a triggered ability. It doesn't "count as" a triggered ability, it just straight-up IS one.Harmonic Prodigy's causes Wizards' triggered abilities to trigger twice, so if you pay the offspring cost, you get two tokens.
>>96438105>burkajesus christ anon, you need to go outside
>>96437693You end up doing the exact same thing with a Pillow Fort deck; win the first time, then never again
>2/1 if you can't deal with it you deserve to get hosed
>>96438105>burkaInstantly outs yourself as a pathetic incel shithead.
>>96438121YES. I WILL NOT BE SILENCED
>>96438121>>96438140>>96438132>longer skirt>legs covered>giant black sports bra thats basically a tank top>downie faceSorry m8s I don't celebrate Ramadan
>>96438148Touch grass.
FREE THE TITTIES
>>96438105>complains about the remake's slight addition of skin coverage>uses art that covers more of her torso than the remake designso, what, is it the legs? you hate how they covered her legs in the remake?
>>96437183>Mono white clericsI don't think that will be a thing.
>>96438183Clerics are primarily white. Spiders are almost never red
>>96438158Very based fren, but it's prime Eurohours atm. Once they go to mosque we can post cute ladies again without them having a melty at exposed skin.
>>96438190literally nobody is having a melty at exposed skin
>>96438183Not really sure what you're trying to argue here anon
>>96438186>Spiders are almost never redYep he's awful as a commander, but a 60 card deck would probably be viable. Not competitive, but viable
>>96438196shut the fuck up and let me live in my delusion
>>96438140Pretty obvious from all his shilling previously.He's not even using her because he likes her actual mechanics, it's just because "tiiiiiiits"
>>96438183>6 Red spiders>359 white clerics>somehow these are comparable
>>96438208>>96438197Are you two autistic? It was obvious he was being sarcastic
>>96438214No, it was not. Fuck off.
>>96438204>Pretty obvious from all his shilling previously.What made up nonsense are you even trying to refer to meltyeuro lmao buy a pass and see how much I've posted before that this thread (hint - once)>He's not even using her because he likes her actual mechanics, it's just because "tiiiiiiits"If I just wanted to play cards because of big ol tatertots there's way more choices than just that https://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Aboob-window&unique=art>incel! touch grass! shithead! patheticVery feminine energy in response to posting superior artwork btw, perhaps you all would be far more comfortable and less triggered with the rest of the dweebs over at reddit.com ?
>>96438197he cute
pjasy
>>96438225Anon, you really shouldn't waste your breath on that nutcase. Look at his rampant samefagging the instant you don't give him a (You)
>>96438225>and see how much I've posted before that this thread (hint - once)>All of my drooling and slobbering in previous threads don't existRetard.>>96438241Nice try though.
>>96438241Yeah I often wonder if it's genuine autists, ESLs, or bots shitting up the thread.
>>96438231Aside from her being front and center, there's 0 wrong with this artShe should be off to the side
>>96438254My personal bet's on shills, which would explain the bracket pushing
>>96438231Really makes me wonder how they're going to handle Yunalesca's art in the inevitable next FF set, since there's not really any angle you can use to hide her based design.
>>96437580I mean by halfling standard she is gorgeous.
>>96438271Wish they did a 4 set block for FF, 4 games at a time up to 16. More room for each game to breathe.
I'm too smoothbrained to play hatebears. I should just stick to stompy.
Final Fantasy: Battle For Ivalice commander draft set
>>96438340@grok is this real?????????????
let's play a one round of commander because I'm mad at what happened>you are playing boros whatever, your pick>anje's ravager on your board ready to attack>darksteel mutation in hand>opponents are precon szarel, has been ramping all game and has commander out with a fetch in the grave but nothing else>gonti, who just tutored something in hand and also has commander out>kiki-jiki combo player, tutored for a sol ring but is manascrewed, nothing on boardlife totals are still high and it's your first main phasewhat do?
>>96438503Darksteel mutation on anon's commander of course
>>96438503I play a mountain and pass.
>>96438506which one
>>96438512you have to attack
>>96438525I play Darksteel Mutation on Anje's Ravager. Now I have an indestructible blocker.
>>96438524Doesn't matter as long as it's his
>>96438503Leave because multiple fags are running tutors and therefore have yet to learn impulse control.
>>96438526this anon fucks
>Set aside some cards to put in a deck>Now I can't find them>Look for binders>Can't find themat my limit
>>96438526God I wish I was Anje's Ravager
>>96438340>play the bear>he now hates >deploy Stompy right next to himWhat is the problem? You can easily play something that can tap the hatebear for value too
>>96438183>Mono white chicksI don't think that will be a thing.
>>96437562He can be a commander in Arena and trust me you do NOT want this.
>>96437580this ladies beauty is on the short stack.Picrel is the opposite for me, I hate this card - and it again lost me the game last time I dropped it
>>96438705I do. Unban 8gin. It's not like the format isn't a complete shitshow already.
>>96438531fug, you are good
>>96438702Love me Delney
multiplying thing is the most braindead game design and only drooling retards play 'em
>>96438788t. doesn't run removal
>>96438503Mutation on Szarel, attack Kiki
>>96438503Oh wait I didn't notice the untapped mountains, leave Szarel alone then you'll probably draw something better to use that mana on. Attack Kiki, sol ring out means he's not struggling as much as you think and you want the Gonti draw too.
>moxfield doesn't consider this bad boi as a tutorWelp still in bracket 2 I guess lmao
DAMN
>>96438966Man, comic books are so crazy ugly.
>>96439028And horribly written too! Dont forget about that
>>9643904290% of Batman Eternal is written and illustrated very nicely, same with Saga, Y the Last Man, Revival, Nailbiter, I could go on.
>>96437217Here’s Sisay/Karametra. Recently swapped Gandalf for Kutzil. Doing finishing touches to Vivi but I cannot decide for my 10th deck whether to make Najeela, Shadow the Hedgehog or bring back Prossh.
>>96439114>she actually reads capeshitjfc
>>96439154Marvel hasn't release a banger since House of M, DC since the aforementioned Eternal, but the other ones listed weren't capeshit, try broadening your horizons.
>>96437505Why should they be?
>>96437940You're just a schizo.
>>96438060It's actually decent. Exile all creatures is relevant to many games.
>>96439194>try broadening your horizons.not with capeshit i wont, but thanks predditor
Post irl decks
>>96439194>broaden your horizons by consooming generic slop written for immature manchildren with plots that have been done 100000 times to death featuring characters that in some cases are nearly 100 years old at this pointcapeshit is the most opposite of "broadening your horizons" as one can get
>>96438148Quite literally the only difference is the socks. Stop larping its embarrassing even if you dont realize it.
>>96438060Given how increasingly irrelevant "Destroy" is when it comes to board wipes, exiling all creatures for 5 mana without triggering Farewell seethe (and painting a huge target on yourself for doing so) is perfectly acceptable.
>>96438225>3 paragraphs of whiny high school girl whinging>passive aggressive sparky send off>calling anyone else feminineLol.
Where is Swordbro I'd rather read his retarded posts about how cool Chains is than this incel screeching about Tifa.
>>96439114>I could go on>I like it so that means its good qualityI dont actually think that is how it works anon
>>96439339>I dislike it because it's in a genre I've decided ahead of time I don't like and call buzzwords>this makes it badYeah this goes both ways except one of us actually has read the content and knows if it's good or not.
>96439305>96439316>96439337>samefag resurrecting an old conversation1) Keep it to one post instead of scrolling down and spamming 3+ different ones shitting up the thread you absolute spastic plebbit retard.2) Yeah, besides the thigh highs, longer skirt (complete with longer sides), giant black tank top "sports brah", hair that ends in a boring ponytail instead of iconic fins to evoke mermaid/dolphin imagery, and weird tacticool straps instead of thin suspenders, nuTifa's look is "literally exactly the same", you're right Anon I'm totally the idiot, not you you chromosome magnet.Don't bother (You)ing me I'm not gonna read it lol have a good Sunday Seethefag!
One of my friends recently began playing and he has invited me twice to play with him and some guys he knows. I've played twice so far and I barely know what's going on someone give me an easy to understand quick rundown. They also bought me a deck where do I go for a guide on how to use this thing
>>96438852but for some reason he used the mutation on my gonti is what happened. my tutor was a wipe for kiki player
>>96439349I have read THREE of the things you posted anon. None were good.
>>96439288>>96439298>but the other ones listed weren't capeshitI get it's European hours right now but I didn't expect the general to be this shitty and ESL
>>96439357>1.No? Ill reply as im reading the thread. Feel free to point out the rules im breaking.>2.>thigh highsYes we spoke on that>massive sports braIts layers, the amount of coverage is the same.>ponytailTifa has had a ponytail since 1997 anon :) youre not only retarded you dont even know the character.>weird tactical straps instead of suspenders>literally just suspenders stillLol.You tried so hard and the only difference we are left with is, still, the thigh highs. You are mindbroken lmao
>>96439383So you haven't read Y or Nailbiter? You should really get on it.
>>96439396Obvious ponytail by the way. Has anon ever seen a real woman lmao
does the first ability of smuggler's surprise mean I can pick more than 2 cards if I reveal 2 creatures and 2 lands?
>>96439400Thats not very logical if three were no good more wont fix that
>>96439292Good morning /edhg/I've taken out some fast mana and interaction and replaced it with card draw and a dredge engine. This has really helped the long game after taking out my first opponent, and the deck has even managed to win a few games when the general got stolen/turned in to a frog. The deck has a good balance of pump and utility and grind ability that my first iterations didn't have. Currently pretty happy with the balance, but it can still be improvedCards I want to add>Lumra- she'd be a house here, but spiked and now costs $30. Seriously thinking of proxying, bros...>Traveling Chocobo- this will replace Augur of Autumn>Exploration-also $30, might have to sell some jank for store credit to justify getting it, or proxy>Amulet of Vigor-reprint this WotCThe deck has been alot of fun to play and work on. Players at my LGS started killing Tifa on sight, which is what lead to adding in the landfall engine, and it's been an overall improvement while still maintaining consistent turn 3-4 kill speed with a turn 2 kill possible if I draw a god hand.>>96439357>>96439396You bros need to get over it, this isn't worth arguing about.>>96439402Yep, she has a weird ponytail, it's canon.
>>96439469No, you can only pick 2 total.
>>96439469>up to twoGenuine question before I answer, are you ESL? 2 creatures, two lands, or one creature and one land.
>see a tiktok complaining about how blue is unfun>first reply is about how when they banned blue at their LGS it stopped being smelly there>second reply is a tranny going "erm actually...!"You can't make this up.
>>96439476Hey retard, that's me guessing the 2 remaining out of the 5 that you haven't read. I don't know why I expected a competent reply after the replies I have already received though ~lol~
>>96439493Pretty embarrassing if the LGS actually banned blue mana and he's not just making it up.
>>96439507Take a shower and/or dilate.
>>96439308God tier art
>>96439515In my anecdotal experience, the smelliest fattest players at the LGS tend to play temur or gruul.
>>96439487what about presence of ages? can I pick one creature AND land, or just one card?>>96439491yes, I'm german. it says and/or, so the sentence can be read as>pick up to two 2 creates AND lands
>>96437632>Girl with visible cleavage.100% a proxy. Magic is afraid of sex appeal for some reason.
>playing against my friend's theft deck>I'm on lifegain>nearing the end of the game>he draws a card>"oh looks like I have someone's Plains lol">I'm very particular with my lands>it has to be mine>but it's in a different sleeve>rememeber I resleeved this deck like 2 months back>that's the old sleeve>remember I was mysteriously short two cards when resleeving>mfw I'm still missing a card>no idea what it isI hate theft decks so much it's actually unreal
>>96439531sorry, I just woke up>pick up to 2 creatures AND lands
>>96438865This bad boy is my best friend in my Zhulodok deck.>use it to grab Cavern of Souls or Eye of Ugin>go ape shit afterwards thanks to free Titan tutor from Eye or "can't touch this" with Cavern
>>96439532They used to not be but the company got taken over by mystery meat trannies.
>>96439532FF has a ton of hot waifus, due to Square Enix protecting their IP, but if you leave the tranny art director to xer own devices, you only get uggos, hags and flat fatties. It's ironic how much feminists hate and seethe at the idea of beautiful women- you'd think female beauty would be something they celebrate, not demonize.
>>96439562Feminists are usually very ugly and bitter women, they hate beauty because it makes them feel inadequate.
>>96439549Remember that playmat of Liliana seducing Chandra that got the artist canceled? Nowadays it would be celebrated by those same people for it's pro LGBTQ+ Yuri themes.
>>96439500Huh?>what the first three punches were fine let me do it to more times!No! You are mistaking competent with "agreed with me". Likely because you are autistic are young, grow up or be normal.
>>96439531This can get you up to two cards as well. Not sure why the differing language on the card, likely cause WOTC is an indie company.
>>96439517Yes it is. I even bought a print of it.
>>96439651Smugglers let's you have the ability to select 2 creatures or 2 lands, or a creature and land if you choose.>>96439531With this card if you pick 2 cards, it has to be a creature and a land, you don't have the ability to pick 2 creatures or 2 lands.
>>96439640You literally typed out >Huh?You are in no place to be criticizing anyone's mental conditions. Thank you for not replying further my lil retarded ESL friendo.
>>96439531They're different effects. For smuggler's surprise, the and/or refers to targets. You can pick up to two "creature and/or land" cards. for in the presence of ages, you may take one creature card, and you may take one land card.So smuggler's surprise let's you get two creatures, two lands, or one creature and one land. And in the presence of ages let's you get one creature, one land, or one creature and one land.
The backlash against black Aragorn and other lotr cards worked because they fully stopped racebending in other UB sets
>>96439757It's too bad the set is still ruined by it tho, i would have liked it otherwise
>>96439757Black Aragorn was so fucking retarded. Everyone is sick of race bending now and imo within 5 years even woke cultists will be against it too.
>>96439757Remember WotC highered a black race consultant when designing Kaya because they didn't want to accidentally be racist, and even wrote and published an article bragging about how inclusive they were for doing it? All the activist consultant said was to make Kaya frumpy looking and give her a nappy fro. That consultant probably got paid atleast $10,000 for that. It's all such a joke.
>>96439757They did it with LOTR because LOTR is a non-visual medium with less-definite character appearances. Aragorn's described in the books with a few words, but honestly he's never too specific and one could argue Viggo's portrayal is also a departure from the books (albeit not as much as MTG's) but the key traits of who he is are all there. Everything else they've done has definite character designs to adapt. It's not that complicated.
Besides Carmen, what other good creatures in orzhov are good bringing back sack fodder?
>>96439854https://wizardsmagic.tumblr.com/post/148459722916/if-you-read-yesterdays-magic-story-laid-to-rest>>96439857Lurrus
>>96439651>>96439682>>96439701okay, thanks. I run both cards, and I played them correctly so far, but seeing them side by side has lead to the confusion.
>>96439757You know it was LotR that made Aragorn black, not WotC, right?Don't forget what other media LotR was releasing around that time.
She's cute. Why does she have to be so garbage? Most good humans are white so red and black adds very little to feed to Silvar.
>>96439859https://www.justaddcoloronline.com/2016/08/04/6-questions-you-might-have-about-magic-the-gatherings-kaya-ghost-assassin-answered/#google_vignette>>96439863Press F to doubt. The Dunedain in Rings of Power aren't black. Isildur is a whitey.
>>96439599Meanwhile Garruk gets cancelled because of pic against Lilliana despite the fact that this is after she mind-fucked and nearly murdered him.
>>96439854It's an innately european tale where "men of the west" defend their homes from barbaric dark races, nobody reading the books thinks he would've been african.
>>96439886ryona chads why we keep getting denied
>>96439854Wokes trying to justify their bullshit with word salad always makes me laugh.
>>96439871Anon isn’t wrong though. I only watched the first season with friends during our Friday Night games sessions back when it aired a few years ago, and every single culture looked like a melting pot. I still find it funny that Game of Thrones was able to work this out a decade ago yet none of these virtue signalling fags ever will.>>96439797At the very least, I feel like they did Mordor, Sauron and other aligned creatures (E.g. Shelob, Sméagol) justice. At the same time though I don’t see how there was any way for them to fuck that up, if at all.
>>96439914Have hope for UB legends of korra. She's a ryona queen.
>>96439921>I don’t see how there was any way for them to fuck that up, if at all.They could've shown Sauron's face in one of the cards and made him a black too, honestly surprised they had the restraint not to.Then again he was a villain so they probably felt no need to.
>>96439869You're joking right? Boros has an entire Human subtheme and B has the best aristocrat synergies with tons of amazing utility humans.
>>96439935He's saying that to get a rise out of your and list them off, so he doesn't have to do his own work.
>>96439931After Rings of Power’s bullshit, I’m completely fine with him remaining faceless in his cards.
>>96439921That was mostly due to Amazon, not the Tolkein estate imo
>>96439947I think an Annatar card could've been cool if they did it justice.
>>96439935>It's good if you play UB!Buy an ad>>96439946Nah EDHREC fucking sucks. Most aristocrats cards aren't humans so you either slot in shit you can't sac to protect Silvar or you take mediocre humans
>>96439700Huh?
>>96439981Nigger
>>96437632Honestly she fits Lolth so much better than her real card it does tempt me to make a proxy for it.
Which would you rank as most fun and least fun to play against:Hope Esteim, big life gain to win by deck-out or the alternative life-total winconsChoco, landfall but with a bird theme instead of elementals and beastsRatadrabik, legendary tribal reanimatorEnrage Dinos, I want to ping the whole table with Pestilence and Pyrohemia
They should print new infect cards, toxic and wither are just not doing it for me.
>>96440029only if we get ways to cure infect,either that or raise the number to 20 in edh to kill someone
>>96440078Nah it's already a gimmicky strategy with mostly shit creatures, it doesn't need to be nerfed when every other archetype is full of 2 card combos now.
>>96440078That's retarded and bullshit. If you let the infect player focus one of you out and don't shove his shit in before get can get to the rest of you, you are bad.
>>96440029holy shit, I didn't know it was this bad. They've abandoned it for Toxic, yeah??
>>96440138Lol what even is this, this card confuses me
>>96440152Sticker card.
>>96440152I hope this explains
>>96440152Some Unfinity cards let you put stickers on your cards to give them new abilities.
>>96437256Why are you hoarding them?
>>96440152Some cards give you [Ticket symbol]You can spend [ticket symbols] to get stickers and attach them to permanents and give them names types, abilities, a new p/t box,etc.
>>96437256holy fucking BASED
>>96440026None of these decks sound particularly fun or interesting to play against.
>>96437256your coins are curving, value is lowering!!
>>96440516That means it's working
>>96439666Based satan
>>96437256Why tho
thoughts on alternate arts?
Yesterday i backed out of ordering a custom playmat right at the end and then today i woke up with a 15% discount code for that mat in my email.Nice lifehack.
>>96440556I honestly think they are aware of how bland and ugly the average card is these days and they know people dont want to play with uggo cards and will pay extra for pretty and thats why we keep getting all these secret lair and collector pack alt arts
>>96440556I keep wanting to build norika because the alt art is so nice, but her ability is so weak and boring I know the deck wouldn't be fun. I'm probably just going to use tivadar of thorn or Rashad yn Bashaar/Folk Hero for my mono white humans deck.
Any reliable method to figure out a deck's bracket? Just post it here and get four different opions by three different anons?
>>96440586Thy might as well stop paying artists to make the boring ugly version and instead just pay good artists to make the cute waifu arts.
>>96440565Yeah this works for just about everything. I like to make a bunch of uber orders at the start of the week, leave them in my cart all day then remove them. Id say easily 80% of the time that weekend ill eat for 50% off
>>96440604Probably more profitable to just let waifufag whales buy the overpriced secret lair
>>96440556Incredibly based and one of the better things they've done with card arts. The Wilds of Eldraine: Enchanting Tales cards are so goddamned good
>>96440603Yes. You see where it fits in the deck building restrictions then you use your brain to figure out its intent. For example, all my decks are 2s as per the restrictions but they are finely tuned and strong so I wouldn't play them against precons but other 3s. 4 is easy cause youre very unlikely to make a 4 without also having the cards that make it a 4. 5 is cedh meta more or less
>>96440603It's pretty obvious when you think about it. Is it even mildly competitive? Start at 2. Is there a bunch of strong cards in it? 3. Did you go full-sweaty loser? 4+
>>96440556I like them, but also hate they don't have flavor text.I run a Heiko deck, it's very fun.Norika is sadly bland because the best option is auras
So what was commander even like before the bracket system? Just a wild west?
>>96440650Gotcha I was gonna use my stomach to figure out it's actions but this has claryfied things, you fucking faggot.Your post says that intent is what decides the bracket but that really shouldn't be decisive at all. My deck could literally "intend" to be a meme but still be very strong. I'd argue action is more important than intention in this regard. And besides: I asked about objective ways. There is no official list of intents to go by to see where my deck stands.>>96440768As stated above I was asking for objective measures. Is there a list of "strong cards"? How much is "a bunch"?
>>96440780everyone played a 7 instead of a 3
>>96440603what turn can you kill a player bycan you accidentally into a comboare you running tutors, and if so do you tutor for a card that helps in your situation or do you tutor for the same card every timehow reliant on your commander is your deckhow much interaction are you runningcompare those to "your average precon" (the EoE precons are b3)
>>96440783The objective measure is the restrictions, which were brought up anon. The subjective measure (equally as important) is the intent.>but what ifTry it out! It is a social format after all and peoples feedback will help you :) not that you care you obviously just wanna shit and piss and moan lol
>>96440794Thanks. That's someting to work with.
It's funny because everyone here knows exactly the kind of smelly social rejects at their LGS who would go here to cry about brackets not being objective enough.They're upset that people don't wanna play with them when all they wanna do is pubstomp with technically legal decks.
>>96440786Damn that's clazy
>>96440873I think brackets are retarded the same as power level was. They're all just attempts at policing autists and you know how you do that? You tell them to fuck off when they show up stinky and gross to your table.Just don't play with assholes. Don't be Toxic-positive and condone poor behavior. That's why these smelly freaks are at YOUR table.
>>96440903I think youre the autist who needed to be policed and seems its doing a good job
>>96440903No brackets aren't for policing, they're for communicating.When you're with friends they're unnecessary but for many people brackets are easy and convenient way to set up somewhat fair games without having to negotiate everything all the time. Nobody except pubstomp spergs has an issue with it.
>>96440873I've literally never played this game and am probing the community to see if it's something worth getting into. The game seems varied and fun but the more I read into this whole thing, the more I worry about getting into a hobby which is pay to win. I'd hate getting invested into something which ends up boiling down to meta bullshit or a gorrillion restrictions. I feel like there is a fundamental flaw in TCGs and the communities often strike me as the type of people to not think this shit through and ending up constantly having to compromise to the point of making everything meaningless.
I'm taking Umori out of the companion zone of Savra to power up the deck a bit. Anyone ever run Umori as commander? All I can think of is a Slime Against Humanity deck.
>>96440935Why do people larp like this just argue about the things you obviously want to argue about
>>96440935Many game stores allow proxies, mine even allows them for FNM events (idk how they get away with that lol), so it's not really pay2win in many places.The restrictions are actually rather lax and unless you're unlucky enough to have an LGS full of psychotic troons it's generally a good time where you don't have to worry much about any of this.At the store in my town the weekly commander night has people playing everything from bracket 2-4 and everyone has a chill time.If you're curious about the game I'd recommend just picking up a precon deck (many of them are actually quite good and immediately ready for play) and just having a few matches, that's a better way to gauge if you'll enjoy it than by looking at the autistic arguments mentally ill freaks have on here.
>>96440986My LGS store not only allows proxies, they sell themselfs, in fact mtg prices are so fucked most of the profits they make from FNM is from selling proxies,coffe and ham sandwiches
I honestly don't really like brackets but I've yet to see a good alternative
>>96441015That sounds super comfy.Honestly someone should start running FNMs in a straight up bar or restaurant, that would be such a cool experience.
>>96438561Just buy them again online. The moment you do the cards you lost will turn up right after the order processes.
>>96441015More LGS's should invest in a cardstock printer and 3d printer, fuck becoming WPN and make money via events and food and such.
>>96439469I hope we see Spree sticks around as a mechanic.
So if I play this and I have a creature that's, let's say, Angel and Human at the same time, it still survives the wipe, yeah?
What situations do you scoop?Here are mine:>Missing 4/5 land drops in a row>Game state against deck that will win 20 turns from now while making sure you can't establish a board>Mill combo deck, I'm not gonna draw my entire deck I'm just leaving
>>96440779>I like them, but also hate they don't have flavor text.That is a big flaw in them. Good or bad flavor text can really make or break a printing for me. One of the things this card game actually got right was flavor text for so many of the cards.
>>96441157if you choose either human or demon, it will liveif you choose dragon, it will die
>>96441196Cool, just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't fuck me with it being dual natured and I selected Angel as my type to protect
>>96441170New Flavor text is just bland exposition or an MCU reddit joke so it's just better off to have no flavor text at all. Old cards, I agree with you.
>>96441213IMO the flavor text has always been a mix of trash, quips, and the occasional gem
>>96441169Horrendous mana situations. Turn 5+, only 2 lands, I drew almost no cards less than 3cmc? I'm out. I'm a little more lenient if I get a manarock/one draw source. Drawing 5 lands in a row to start the game will also make me very tilted. Another reason: If there's a board state that we can't overcome in 1 turn cycle, I'm done (Maha + Night of Souls' Betrayal, for example)
I can fix her.Also please let her be decent and not total crap.
Reveals were delayed because they're doing emergency errata for the remaining Spider-Man cards to bring them past Vivi level.
Is it safe to say this general is more optimistic about ATLA than Spiderman?
>>96441252By far
>>96441252Who isn't? It's a higher quality brand and there's literally no cool or interesting cards in Soider Man except for the soul stone.
>>96441266the red newspaper guy is a nice value engine in red. otherwise, yeah.
>>96441015Post a picture of some of these proxies behind the counter anon>coffee and ham sandwichesDo you play in a deli lmao
>>96441252ATLA is shit because the bending is fun and will never show up in any other set
>>96441252Actual fantasy vs generic capeslop. Wow, what a surprise
>>96441267Spider Punk is good in alot of red decks, certainly going straight into my Alexios deck.
>>96441015>ham sandwichesThat's antisemitic
>>96441252Probably. Wasn't helped that one of the largest wave of things we saw from Spider-Man were the starter decks which were full of mostly mediocre cards with at most one or two standouts. The rest of the set seems to only be marginally more powerful which isn't doing it any favors either.
>>96440556This is the normal art, you can't tell me otherwise.
>>96441266Spider Punk, Electro are the only cards I want, and J Jonah for the memes, rest of the set is underpowered crap and boring designs.
>>96441288Also Islamophobic
>>96441273they can always just bring back a bending ability by spelling it out in the rules text.
>>96441272they pretty good because they print and stick them into shit cards>Do you play in a deli lmaoits slowly turning into one, all began when they got a refrigerator and began selling cold drinks for a summer
>>96441288>>96441320im gonna tell my lgs to start doing it them
>>96441077>gather in a bar, comfy time drinking with the peeps takes over this shitty soldout gameim in
>>96441340I've seen this on etsy too.Hope they only charge like a few bucks for them at the store
>>96441376They charge around 0.7 dollar for each
>>96441387That's extremely reasonable, the the point they might even be even only breaking even at that cost.
>>96441422Oh my god, I'm clearly drunk.*to the point they might only be breaking even at that cost
>>96441422From what understand they sell as such a high volume is making money, mix them with coffe and food sells and you are good for it.Honestly more stores should do it, once you get the printer you are good for it
>>96441340>filenameIsnt that from game of thrones?
>>96441387>.7They are absolutely fleecing people online then
>>96441340>>96441458>Same art but different framesAre people stealing AI? Lol.
>>96441045either greatly expand upon the banlist or accept the format was never meant to be particularly balanced
>>96440475Thanks for the feedback, anonWhat deck would you find fun to play against at a table? I'm trying to find uncommon commanders and strategies I don't usually play for some variety.
>>96441580sepharathe meld legends (non ub)jareth
>>96441340No show them at the lgs/deli that supposedly sells them
I have a Parallel Lives and a Doubling Season lying around. What are your favorite token-based commanders so I can make use of these?
>>96441666Shroofus
>>96438503Make a deal with Gonti and Szarel that they can keep their commanders if they don't hit me. Darksteel if one of them doesn't agree. Swing at Kiki.
>>96441666>Loud buzzing
>>96441666Jaheera/Agent
>>96441666>run Doubling Season with other stuff like From Beyond, Awakening Zone, etc>mfw I delete everyone with a billion Annihlator midgetsEveryone expects Timmy Supreme if I'm running Eldrazo, but instead I'm going to gnaw at your ankles.
>>96441666Go nuts, kid
>>96441666Here you go Satan.Get all the thaalids and intruder alarm and proceed to take 8 hour turns as you add spore counters, proliferate and make saprolings
>kill tifa>he bitches and moans all night about how hes not allowed to play the game and might as well just scoop every game>dont kill tifa>die to a 40 power trampler the next turnI think I hate my pod
>>96441666wort, and make big tokens
>>96441810>Tifafags are as insufferable in real life as they are in this generalHow shocking. Truley shocking.
>>96441757Rare instance of actually using the commander's text being foreign to EDH players.
That's it.Someone stopped by and bought all 12 of my precons.Its a bittersweet feeling.I really did enjoy collecting them.
>>96441757It was cuter when myr did it
>>96441810youre supposed to let everyone do the thing even if that thing is killing you bro
>>96441890That's actually adorable and it hardly even has FIRE design
>>96441810>all power, no protection>whines when taken outMany such cases
>>96441915Its a WUBRG commander, anon
myrchads..
>>96441975What
>>96439292I should take a picture of the updated version at some point
>>96441975Yes?
>>96441958Do you have a point to make?
>>96442105Ummmmm, 5 color commanders are pushed cancer?????
>>96442108Like atogatog?
>>96442108
>UBslop becomes a thing>suddenly 5cslop becomes toleratedbig think
>>96441666BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER
>>96442108Ahhh yes, Jegantha. Such cancer.
>>96442108Answer truthfully: is THIS pushed cancer?
>>96441196>Choose dragon>All the remaining creatures are gay
>>96442140>Made before commander ever seen as a real format or profitable Piss off yard of tard
>>96439292This is outdated
>>96442137this but unironically
>>96442108>they were at less than 10 life, any X burn spell or "lose X life" shit kills them anywayPUSHED PUSHED PUSHED PUSHED PUSHED PUSHED PUSHED PUSHED PUSHED PUSHED
>>96442150>Fifteenth DoctorI love the theme but damn it hurts seeing it stick out like a sore thumb
>>96442166I have a proxy version I use sometimes because it really fires up my autism.
>>96442149>it begins
>>96442149Your post betrays your point
>>96442180>>96442186>5 color commanders are pushed>Haha a card that was just a shitty creature and not made to be a commander blew you the fuck outRetards.
>>96441458>economy is so fucked people are willing to pay for 5 bucks AI generic coomer artswe need to kill all investors and scalpers
>>96441915It is very FIRE design though im confused
>>96442154tbf Ezio is a bad example because he actually saw a ton of DC play for being the cheapest 5c commander until The Wandering Minstrel came out and actually had text on him. Ezio is still arguably better because his cast reqs. are easier and he doesn't die to NEB or enable Ghostfire Slice.
>>96442219Very pushed commander over here >>96442150
This is basically the preconI only allow myself to change 1 card at a time and only make changes if I lose a game. So far inkwell leviathan, Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor and Geode Golem have been cut fir counterspell, combustible gearhulk and manaform hellkiteIve been moving between commanders a lot but I think its time to start either leaning into or cutting the brudiclad cards.
>>96442231
>>96442273I hate when mats have giant shit like the event name in huge font. Or shit like "CHAMPION" on them. The second is way worse because it makes it harder to resell.
>>96442294Lol me tooI got these on clearance, 4 bucks a piece I think, a few years back My wife and daughter love them though, so I can't complain too much.
>>96442273Why's is your vibrator on your kitchen table
>>96442140>>96442140>unkillable flying threatYes absolutely
>>96442123>>96442137>>96442140>pulling out the absolut rancid and dust covered old farts when clearly everyone knows what he meantNTA but this shit is absolute retardo modeIMO 5c creatures are allowed to be pushed, commander isnt the only format. its up to the EDHtoddler to not pick the babby mode commander
>>96442337Its the perfect height for your mom
>>96442353He spoke incorrectly and people are capitalizing on that. He also ignored recent examples
>>96442363>He spoke incorrectly>>96442108>5 color commanders>He spoke incorrectly Creatures never meant to be a commander before cards were ever designed to be commanders don't count.You bad reading comprehension from first post.Retard.
>>96442353My question is, what's inherently wrong with playing with a powerful commander? Especially if you're willing to play against equally powerful opponents or opponents that aren't afraid to face such threats? What's wrong in liking the mechanics the might have or the playstyles they promote, other than 'I don't like it'. Plz, I would like a sincere answer.
>>96442373>um it just doesn't count because then my obviously wrong statement would be proven wrong>I cant be bothered to actually do card analysis so im just going to move the goalposts
>>96442363Nah it adds up seems like salty UBfags circle jerking to me
>>96442397>Cards never designed to be commanders can be pushed designs for commanderOnce again I tell you, RETARD.Now don't reply to me again because you are grasping at straws.
>>964423909/10 the player behind those busted commanders are absolute mega pussies that cant handle the slightest interaction towards their busted mindelss thrown together pile of WUBRG goodstuff shit, and only build them to cheez out easy wins.Absolutely no problem playing against an opponent knowing what he has - but those busted 5c sloppas tend to attract the former like flies on shit
but urza's not 5c
>>96442293>undercosted>fuels its abilityReally not sure what you arent seeing here. Its a 3 drop, which is already absurd for everything it does. It doubles all your myr casts. You can do anything you want with your myrs (hmmmm like build an ever growing army bigger and bigger!) And still be safe because he untaps everything. Youd have to had started playing in the past couple years to not see that as a ridiculously FIRE card. FIRE is an overarching design philosophy. Its not like it just misses certain cards
>>96442402Lying doesn't make you right
>board leader full swings at someone else with their full board>Cast settle the wreckage because he was fully tapped out >Accuses me of kingmaking because I didn't hold onto it until he attacked me
Nigga thinks a few 1/1s and a slow as balls pump is "FIRE"
>>96442511But you see, if you have all 5 color specific dorks out at the same time you can do +6 every turn!
>>96439218>Because.... SHUT UP!
>>96439218People want itIt really would not impact the game much since planeswalkers aren't great in commanderThere isn't a good excuse not to.
>>96439886i want this on a playmat
>>96442606>people want itThere are already planeswalkers that can be commanders>it would not impact the gameNarset.>there isn't a good excuse not toExcept for the fact it's literally against the spirit of the rules. Legendary ***creatures*** were meant to be commanders, retard. >newfag joins game>sees he can't do anything>HOW ABOUT WE UPTURN THE RULES SO I CAN DO THE THING I WANT???? >WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T WANT TO CVHANGE THE RULES? NO GOOD EXCUSE?
>>96442606Giving players exactly what they want is what is currently killing the formatI'm going to need a better reason.
>>96442630>But vehicles are okay
>>96442630>There are already planeswalkers that can be commandersThat's not all of them>NarsetBracket 3 by default. Carry removal in your bracket that is meant to be above precons by a good margin. You have 3 game changers.>DA SPIRITBrackets are against the spirit of the format but you went for that as soon as wotc told you to.I bet you cried over fucking vehicle commanders.
>>96442462So it's just feels? As I thought.
>>96442318>see a mat I really like>has CHAMPION on it>don't get it because I don't want people thinking I won some tournament I didn't.
IS THAT A HECKIN 5 COLOR COMMANDERINO?!
>>96442630>Except for the fact it's literally against the spirit of the rules. Legendary ***creatures*** were meant to be commanders, retard.Devil's advocate: Elder Dragon Highlander was meant to be played with the Elder Dragons.
>>96442273i like what you did with the giant card, cutting it in a way to slip into a sleeve.bretty kewlz
>>96442644>Brackets are against the spirit of the format but you went for that as soon as wotc told you to.Weird projection, I dont use brackets
>>96442373>umm it has to be recentThis thing blows as does every other 5C commander based on playing multicolored cards
>>96442667This, things change. Most Planeswalkers are really bad and being able to be attacked directly really makes them unfavorable commanders over than a very small pool. Almost nothing would change if they decided tomorrow any Planeswalkers can be a commander
>>96442693People would be happy and that angers me.
>>96442685wait, how did, you didnt sleeve it...the borders are too big to fit in a sleeve
>>96442692> every other 5C commander based on playing multicolored cardswhich is how many?
>>96442711At least 3 Niv Mizzets on top of this.They also blow.
>>96442699I'm happy you're being honest anon, even if it makes you look like a ghoul.
>>96442630>>96442667>>96442693brackets - fineversions of play - edh = elder dragon cards only / classic- commander = legendary creatures only- cumdumbslander = legendary, + stations/vehicle + planswalkers with text permission- universe beyond = universe beyond cards allowed
I think you all need to read this because the card doesnt have to be SSS+ tier to be FIRE design. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/card-preview/fire-it-2019-06-21
>>96442693>they'd all be bad and no one would use themThen why change the rules??
>>96442739Because people want to use them and you created an asinine bracket system to justify weak commanders as valid
>>96442736next ruling will 100% be planeswalkers as commanders allowed- zoomiecumdumbslander = legendary, + stations/vehicle + any planswalker.
>>96442742>you createdI'm not WotC, anon.
>>96442742>nebulous "people" want to use themJesus christ this isn't an argument. """People"""" want to use vanilla creatures and enchantments as commanders too, those people shouldnt be humored either.
>>96442757>NO ONE WANTS PLANESWALKER COMMANDERSGrist has over 6000 decks
>>96442648of course its just feels you massive mongo>whats inherently wrong>What's wrong in liking the mechanics>sincere answerdid you honestly expect some sort of factual scientifc paperwork right now, when the stakes are >whats wrong with liking thing?>whats wrong with disliking thing?or why are you acting like a special fruit? this entire format, this entire general and you your entire question is nothing but feels, so i gave you my "sincere answer" you worthless donkey
>>96442750So you don't use the system?
>>96442705Had to cut the top of the card down
I shit and fart myself when the game changes in any way.
>meme card in your pet deck has never been printed in foil so you can never 100% foil the deck out
>>96442761>a legal commander has decks????
>>96442768Not if I'm not forced, no. It also doesn't mean I created it even if I did?
>>96442772>I want WotC to completely change commander despite claiming to like commander
I hope wotc does away with 100 card limit/minimumI hope wotc does away with color identityI hope wotc makes every card able to be a commanderI hope wotc gets rid of singleton
>>96442739I didn't say no one would use them. I said they aren't very good.Most legendary vehicles aren't good either but they can be used as commanders now.Not everything is played at CEDH or near CEDH, having lower power decks have more options to be creative isn't a bad thing or something that should be stopped at all costs. Planeswalkers being able to be played isn't going to destroy the format.
>>96442772This but unironically Stop changing things I like
Next OP take that custom card shit out, these retards keep trying to get it put back in
>>96442852Can you post how many legendary creatures there are that are legal in commander anon?
It’s been so long since I bought a card or a pack I’m having withdrawals. Give me another Dominaria remaster! Give me a return to a return to a return to Ravnica! Give me Innistrad horror knock off. I’ve given up on good in universe sets. Just give me my double triple quadruple masters.
>>96442847- D.E.I.Trannyzoomiecumdumbslander = I hope wotc does away with 100 card limit/minimumI hope wotc does away with color identityI hope wotc makes every card able to be a commanderI hope wotc gets rid of singleton
>>96442860Almost 2600
>>96442875And how many planeswalkers are legal in commander?
>>96442883About 300
>>96442889and low power decks dont have enough room to be creative without a 15% increase in card pool? Fuck off retard.
>>96442860Too many to list, how is it really any different if someone plays tibalt fiend blooded or against you?Both decks are going to be pretty bad and just played for fun.
>>96442896So, your argument literally is just "I don't like it?"Pretty shit argument.
>>96442904No my argument is superfluous, pointless rule changes should be avoided. There's nothing wrong with commander. You aren't suddenly going to be happy if they change something that works to something more messy and less defined. Take some SSRIs, troon.
>>96442911>superfluous, pointless rule changes should be avoidedThe only reason why is because you don't like it.>Ad homI accept your concession.
>>96437183i would like mono red spiderswould absolutely like renames and alternative arts for alll the speedorman universe goyond cardspix unrelated
>>96442919>ad homKYS response speedrun any %kys x 2
>>96442919>stop not wanting your functional well-defined format to get worse and less well-defined for no reason!!!>AAAAAAA HE KNOWS IM A TROON CONCESSION ACCEPTED DONT BE MEANcope or rope, call it.
I went to Best Buy today and they had the cat girl Final Fantasy precon so I bought it :3
>>96442933>It will be ruined because it just will!>More ad homIf I were a tranny it would be even more embarrassing for you to have lost this argument to me.
>>96437505Go play Oathbreaker
>>96442935noicethe arts for her cards are great
>>96442946I see you chose cope
>>96442957I choose reality, you didn't. Which, you know, is ironic since you hate troons so much.
Problem?
>>96442952Yeah I've never tried Esper for a Commander but it made me pretty interested to pilot one. I usually prefer aggro colors so it will be great to go with something a little different
>>96442985Yes.Your deck box isn't pixel art style.
>>96442832t. thread that defends brackets, the largest change to commander in its history.
>>96442985I wish I could find a good deck box for Egmman.Also absolutely based playmat
>>96443029>everyone in thread is the same personWhat
>>96443034State you hate brackets
>>96443038I hate brackets and they were a stupid change. So was making legendary Vehicles commanders as a rule, and so was handing Commander over to WotC.
>my secret Nashi EDH deck tech cards Helm of the Ghaslord and Sygg River Cutthroat are now $10 eachMan inflation really hit this game hard huh those things were barely $1 each when I bought them last year during Duskmourn
>>96443029You know that you can completely ignore it, right?
>>96443046That usually indicates a recently released card makes actual use of them.
Brackets are good.Legendary-only is good.The only thing they should change is how mana drain and free counters being allowed.t. extremely high IQ Aryan
>>96443065>Legendary-only is good.I want a Partner/Background that allows you to play a non-legendary creature as commander tho
>>96443091>monkey's paw curls
>>96440556Way overdone at this point, I avoid them on purpose, though that doesn't save me from having to see them in other people's decks. The new frame from 2014 looked bad enough, now most decks look like a Frankenstein's pile of cards from different TCGs
>>96443107I wonder just how many casual players would know this is a Heroes of the Realm card, and not a special SLD card. I bet you could convince a ton of people it's legal, most wouldn't even mind
>>96443164Knowing my playgroup they would go home that night and "build" their own version to play the next week
>>96443164or you could just fuckin' ask to use it and not be a cheater?
>>96443193>Play your commander >Welp, your commander is now a full party, so you will go nuts with the triggers.I would be fine with someone using this if it weren't for the last ability.
>>96443216doesnt that only happen if the background is out though? seems fine for a 5cmc enchantment
>>96443216>Welp, your commander is now a full partyThat's not how it works. Your commander is only 1 of the party, you still need other creatures
>>96443216anon that's not how party works.
>>96443216had that same discussion about Burakros, thats not how party works
>>96443216>Burakos only counts as 1 member of your party for the ability even though it can count as any of the creature type rolesprecedent says otherwise. stop talking about shit you know nothing about
>>96443216>anon has opinions on things with 0 knowledgemany such cases
>>96442718Niv Mizzet is a bottom (he would just never admit it)
I'm making mono blue Urza, but not sure what direction to go. It looks like the primary builds are more midrange with draw engine/utility creatures like forensic gadgeteer, and poly kraken which cuts all creatures and only runs hullbreaker/tidespout for polymorphing and proteus staffing him out.Anyone here built him? I wanna see how people have built him and get opinions from others that run him.
>>96443324I assume you're having trouble building Urza, Powerstone Prodigy otherwise you're retarded.
>>96441810Tifa is so fucking based, bros
>>96443413redditor
>>96441810One of my friends is exactly like this nigga builds his deck exclusively using EDHrec and complains any time he's targeted in anyway
>used to play standard>would force BW >after rotation id update my BW edh decks >my decks were full of cards that I had lots of history withHow do I get back to this after edh and standard are both kinda borked?
unban him
>>96443521Only to reban 2 mo later for maximum redfit tears
>>96443521errata him to "basic land" and we'll talk about unbanning
>>96443489I had a friend who was like this. If you played mechanics or strategies he didn't like, like infect or control, he threw a bitch fit. I stopped playing mtg with him and eventually stopped being his friend. He was autistic and had weed based psychosis+ ptsd from the Afghanistan war. I hung around with him playing mtg because he had no other friends but he acted insufferably and it wasn't my job to be his keeper. Sometimes it's ok to walk away from people who are immature and draining assholes.
>>96441810Similar issue with a friend playing Breya. Complains anytime Mycosynth Lattice is countered/nuked because ‘it helps everyone’. Not only do I know in that deck it’s bullshit because they have a number of ways of locking everyone out of the game, but anytime I hear ‘it benefits everyone’ I make getting rid of that card a priority because it will always benefit the owner the most.
>>96443559At least they have the excuse of being a war vet. I’ve got one friend who is similar to them but hates the mechanics of blue because blue ‘isn’t what the creator intended with Magic’. They’re a great friend outside Magic, but pic is very much the case with any of their opinions about the game.
>>964435215c slop already has enough handholding, they don't need more.
>>96443559>weed based psychosislmao
Solog, Tireless Cultivator 5When this enters, search your library for a forest card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.7: Exile the top three cards of your library. For as long as they remain exiled, you may play those cards.
thinking about building Rendmaw, is he fun
>>96443654yes
>>96443589Covid lockdowns hit him hard and he got addicted to watching rumble videos of random people talking about nanobots hidden in the vaccines. I was a pureblood antivaxxer myself but even I was skeptical of the nanobots theory. I told him even if he was right, what's the point of obsessing over it but he just got too in to watching nanobot videos. He also started inviting 18 year old kids from his work to his house and gave them beer and weed, and it was at that point his clothes shot loving roommates had the excuse to kick him out. He would get in daily fights with them about covid vaccines and kept calling them sheep. Now he lives in Connecticut with his family and I hope he's doing better. And I love weed myself but it can induce schizophrenia early, as well as psychosis. He smoked all day and hardly slept, it wasn't a good combo. He was a cool guy but covid lockdowns mentally destroyed him and he refused to get any treatment from the VA or anyone for his ptsd. I hope he has a good rest of his life but he was a dick to play mtg with after awhile due to all his spergouts.
>>96443671>clothes shot*clot shot
>>96443516Theres no going backTake your shitpile of fliers and planeswalkers to bracket 1 and stay there or actually learn how to play
>>96443753>some edh baby is telling a standard brewer about actually playing the gameThis is me LMAOing @ u
>>96443770Standard fucking sucks and has been shit for over a decade now. There's no badge of honor in playing standard.
If we got a warhammer fantasy set, what factions do you think the 4 precons would be? My guess:>Empire (with kislev support)>Orks>High Elves>Vampire counts? Maybe chaos but 40k already did that
>>96443840Poop poop fart butthole smegma burp
>>96443840>R/WEmpire>G/WBretonnia>U/WHigh Elves>U/BDark Elves>G/WOrks>G/BBeastmen>G/ULizardmen>B/WTomb Kings>R/BChaos Dwarfs>U/RSkaven
Unban her
>>96443928>G/W*G/R
>>96439869I literally built a human birthing pod deck with those 2 in the command zone, last thing missing to perfect it is a 6cmc changling so I can go from human to elesh norn more consistently, Disciples of Gix is medium but is what’s in its place. Changling also opens up the line of Angel of Glory’s Rise. Decks sweet. Build one yourself!
>>96443928I feel like skaven would need black since they are all about sacrificing their units, they'd probably be dimir. Most the rest of this is agreeable.
>>96443930Unprint her
>>96443964This is certainly valid, I just couldn't think of a better faction for izzet without getting into subfactions. I also like the polarity of HE and DE for UW and UB respectively.
>>96443944I don't think there's a 6 mana changeling in mardu colors. You will probably just have to use maskwood nexus, or cards like portal to phyrexia and breach the multiverse to turn humans into phyrexians.
>>96443982There would probably be some overlap in the colors naturally. Like skaven and dark elves could both be grixis adjacent, same with chaos.
>>96443972Its not never in line with the spirit of the format to not let me play cards I own
>>96443994Nothing at 6. A shame, that combo is pretty interesting
Did the artist use a Fish Eye Lens while drawing him what the fuck
>>96444061You'd be surprised how many comic book artists absolutely fucking BLOW at drawing people
>>96443994>>96443944but there's 6cmc human phyrexians? you don't need to use a changeling>there's literally two in colorswell, they exist at least
Free him
>>96444102aw fuck
>>96444104Nigga he's literally holding up the ground he'll kill us all
>>96444102>Disciples of Gix is worth literal penniesWell shit there's his answer. Nice find
>>96444113I'M THE LORD OF THE HARVESTBRING IT ALL DOWNBRING IT ALL DOWN
>>96444102For a birthing pod deck that should be good enough for him. Didn't even consider checking multiple types.
>>96443944This deck sounds super cool im gunna build a pyre tribal list.
>>96444216NTA but I had it in budget zombies for a bit. It's best in decks where you want to be sacrificing your stuff anyways.
>>96444104It'll be fine. This dude is holding up everything else. Well, at least until someone kills him. Then we're really fucked.You know, I bet /edhg/ could build a deck where the art is people holding shit on their shoulders.
>>96443944Sounds cool, but Fiend Artisan taught me that I can't remember the mana value of creatures in my deck enough to do it right.
>>96441810Turn her into a land or something.
>>96444119Nice find? I posted about Desciples in the post, you didn’t read what I said lol. I wasn’t looking for an answer, I have disciples of gix but it’s medium, the ETB trigger at most gets me universal automatron, Esper sentinel and ethersworn cannonist in the GY for some kind of reanimation package. Obviously it can do more but that’s all I can find to do that’s useful in my deck. It hasn’t been printed yet but one day it will; the 6 cmc changling also lets me sac the other commander Silvar to assist the chain at 5cmc>6cmc having a 1 turn clock in the command zone; or right away if I have a flicker or up, it’s not quite CEDH but it’s close. It’s grindy. It’s churny. It’s fantastic. It fucks blue. I love the deck. Played and built the deck over the course of 5 years now; or whenever those decks came out.
>>96439869Black adds Pitiless Plunderer and Zulaport Cutthroat. Species Specialist was printed only in the precon. Black doesn't add much to feed, but it adds good ways to get value out of shit dying, which is what should be happening.It also adds a lot more burst draw. White's draw is limited and red only really has temporary draw and looting.Red honestly is the odd color out, but is generically good for aggro.
>>96441810enchant her with this it's always funny
>>96444376that's bait, son
>>96444380I've had a tranny walk up and pace around and vent and scream because I darksteeled xis commander
>>96444418Justified. You literally prevented them from playing the game
>>96444418Sounds like the tranny needs to run more enchantment removal or ways to sac the Commander.
>>96444426If someone is preventing you from "playing the game" because of one enchantment, that's entirely on you for building a poor deck.
>>96444418
>>96444461>>96444461>>96444461
>>96444436I had a tub of lard get mad at me on Friday for playing Verdant Command in response to their Ral ult. It's a legit card for my Esix deck but I've never had to use that mode.I love watching meltdowns.
>>96444389No, he’s right, few red creatures are in my Tryn/Silvar; Magus of the Moon, Imperial Recruiter, Robber of the Rich (sideboard in and out depending how many blue players). I cut Judith Scourge Diva. Red is good for stuff like Mass Hysteria, Gamble, Wheel, Lightning Bolt, Deflecting Swat, Tibalts Trickery, Fork.
