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>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96428982
>>96423188

>TQ
What colored artifacts do you actually like?
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Justify this somehow.
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>>96442812
>TQ
My favorite Oblivion Ring.
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>>96442824
>Justify this somehow.
If you're playing Standard, you are a clown. Commander is what cards get designed for and this will never change.
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>>96442824
It made the line go up.
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>>96442824
This is punishment for those that complained about mono-red aggro.
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can i tap my fishing pole to put a 1/1 dish in your dismal backwater
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>>96442759
Feel free to screenshot it and feel smug later, you won't.
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>>96442824
This is the result of JOTC pushing Standard and killing Pioneer besides neglecting the rest of formats. The made seven bans and the state of the meta is WORST than Vivi Cauldron environment. They should think about it but they seem to be too retarded to ever do it.
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>if you dont like the meta play other format
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>>96442812
>>TQ
>What colored artifacts do you actually like?
Door To nothingness. The true classic.
>>96442824
better sales = good
integrity = irrelevant
>>96442842
Only if you my Sponge Bob is tapped.
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>>96442882
this is what the commentator said btw
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>>96442882
>>96442890
No way… For real? Now they don’t even respect the audience/customers even a little?
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I don't understand how crew is supposed to work. Isn't one pilot sufficient to crew Surgehacker Mech? Why the fuck is it telling me one pilot isn't enough?
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>>96442937
For crew that Surge mech you posted you need a value of Crew of 4 your pilot token has a value crew of 3 in total (1 of power+2 from the ability) you need 1 more creature with at least 1 power to crew your Mech.
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>>96442958
Well then they worded the Pilot token really retardedly.
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>>96442968
...no?
Anon this is basic math and english, how are you misunderstanding it
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food > mono red apparently
it's such a shame that catfood is so tedious to play
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>>96443135
Cat/Oven is easily one of the most cancerous things in MTG and should have been hard errata'd out of all formats ala Companions.
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>>96443135
What I enjoy of Pioneer is that you have answer for the red shit specially if you play Black or UW, you maybe have other hard matchups but you a make braindead faggots life an absolute misery and that alone is worth it.

Still I want Fable, Nemesis, Rage, Cruise, Cutter and pic related, Kethis and Inverter unbaned
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>>96443135
>Abrupt Decay seeing maindeck competitive play in 2025
It's not much but it warms my heart.
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>>96442926
>>96442890
>>96442882

OH BOY
i hope this doesnt get blow over Wotc~
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>>96443347
if someone of WotC in some kind of live event or conference dared to say this shit to me i would either insult, shout or mock the faggot and all the company he has behind for such stupid statement.

is like “if you don’t like how i build your house without windows or doors you can go live somewhere else”. no, suck my dick?
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>>96443262
It's always been played in Pioneer, anon.
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>>96443409
>Pioneer
hahahahhahahaahahahahahahah
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>>96443411
>Pioneer Challenge
>hahahaha
Pick one.
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>>96443409
I don't remember it seeing much play after the early stages of the format, late 2021 to late 2024 feels like a massive blob of rakdos midrange vs different iterations of unfair/aggressive decks in my memory. Even in the brief periods were golgari midrange was playable, I think they were playing different removal spells to deal with rakdos more efficiently.
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>>96443135
>Massacre Girl
>TWO copies
This has any purpose besides being one of the most based grinders i ever see?
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>>96442824
Idk some people would rather play u/w than win
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>>96443461
I think it's an answer for humans and angels, they tend to go wide if you don't kill them fast and the fact that it stays on board makes it hard for them to ever rebuild since you can just cat loop whenever they drop something
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>>96443447
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80 dollar boxes with 36 packs in them
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>>96443555
I guess I forgot about niv, it's been a while since it was any popular
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>>96442824
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>>96442824
Mono-Red Aggro running 4x Scalding Viper and 4x Razorkin Needlehead sometimes can beat Cauldron if Cauldron both doesn't draw Vivi and stalls out with bad topdecks. Therefor the format is healthy.
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I need to start a new Arena account and grab the GuyInAChair name
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>>96443655
Don't the use the numbered account system? You can have multiple accounts with the same name.
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>>96442812
>What colored artifacts do you actually like?
Whip of Erebos was fun in standard.
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If you think Vivi is bad just remember that Cori, Vivi, Cauldron and Rage were all supposed to exist in the same standard meta.
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Has modern card design ruined pauper yet or do I still have time?
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we are really doing it chat
Deck
4 Fatal Push
2 Swamp
1 Mountain
4 Weapons Manufacturing
3 Shrapnel Blast
2 Sulfurous Springs
4 Blood Crypt
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Blightstep Pathway
4 Deadly Dispute
1 Den of the Bugbear
4 Experimental Synthesizer
4 Oni-Cult Anvil
1 Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance
4 Mishra's Research Desk
2 Legion Extruder
2 Rottenmouth Viper
4 Clockwork Percussionist
2 Blazemire Verge
4 Cori-Steel Cutter

Sideboard
4 Thoughtseize
3 Torch the Tower
2 Abrade
2 Damping Sphere
2 Unlicensed Hearse
1 Withering Torment
1 Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
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Magic fucking sucks. Of the top3 games (Magic, Pokemon, & Yugioh), Magic is easily the bottom. Even BandaiTCG games are better.

I am only here because I enjoy being angry at things.
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>>96443910
Mtg is still a fundamentally good game.
It currently has a format and design issue, both of which could be solved overnight.
I'm playing premodern and purposefully low power edh decks until they fix their shit.
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>>96443963
I'd play that game.
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>>96443963
Lets see the blue mage
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>>96442968
Is English your first language?
I'm genuinely struggling to see how you're getting it wrong.
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Any Avatar spoilers?
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>>96443961
>Mtg is still a fundamentally good game.
>It currently has a format and design issue, both of which could be solved overnight.
Pretty much this. The core mechanics are both good and entirely salvageable, it's the sheer amount of slop they've pushed out that's causing everything to go to shit. Without the deliberate power creep the game would be in a much better place.
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>>96444045
Spoiler: The Avatar collector boxes are going to be $1200
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>>96444045
Nothing new. We probably won't get anything new before the actually official spoiler season for the set start.
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>>96442812
I hate this card
None of the other spoilers have gotten to me like this
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>>96444115
Why do you hate it?
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>>96443961
>It currently has a format and design issue, both of which could be solved overnight.
How exactly? All eternal formats have been decimated by FIRE. Banning problem cards won't solve that. The only format I think could be saved is Standard, which would require a de-escalation of the power creep.
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>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=72661&f=PREM
32 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71876&f=PREM
45 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71875&f=PREM
40 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71540&f=PREM
81 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71249&f=PREM
107 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71247&f=PREM
60 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71452&f=PREM
50 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69859&f=PREM
177 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM
66 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68886&f=PREM
84 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68297&f=PREM
279 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68163&f=PREM
92 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=67416&f=PREM
52 players

Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
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>>96442824
Honestly, there wouldn't be anything wrong with this meta as long as they killed Vivi Cauldron. Frankly, the fact that BR is able to do well without any shocklands or fast lands is fascinating to me.

>>96443867
>Print a bunch of powerful 1-mana izzet spells
>Print a 2-drop equipment that makes a prowess monk that initially gets +1/+1, trample and haste the turn it enters just for playing izzet
>Print a 3-drop creature that can pull a bunch of mana out of his fat and growing ass just for playing izzet
Is izzet the new simic or something?
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My beloved wife.
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>>96444502
Kind of a shitty card.
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>>96442882
>>96442890
This used to be the answer to bad Standard formats. The problem is WotC has shit up every other format so bad with mismanagement and deliberate EDH/Modern Horizons/Alchemy power creep that they're all unplayable. Maybe you retreat to EDH and play board games with your friends, or you just quit.
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>>96443870
It's a format where Modern Horizons cards are legal, do you really need to ask?
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>>96444524
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Is there a way to use green as a way to control your land drops?
Also is there a way to build multicolor decks using only basic lands?
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>>96444815
>Is there a way to use green as a way to control your land drops?
Yes, there's plenty of green spells that let you find lands.
>Also is there a way to build multicolor decks using only basic lands?
No, maybe some gimmick deck I'm not aware of would do it, but in the vast majority of cases you'd just be handicapping yourself.
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>>96443870
a bit
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper#paper
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>>96444815
>Also is there a way to build multicolor decks using only basic lands?
Technically yes, but it depends on the cards you use. I have a single forest in my deck for pic related, and I can create treasure tokens if I really need one green.

Think of it in percentages. The more of a colour symbol you have in your deck, the more land you'll need to compensate for it. It obviously becomes more difficult to this with the more colours you add to your deck.
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I'm gonna be honest. These are the only two avatar characters I care about, and I fully expect to be disappointed by their cards. But, if either is mono-red, I might grab a copy, otherwise I don't think I'm going to care about any cards in the set.

Also, no, I don't really care about Mai.
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>>96444833
>>96444869
Well I wanted to see if there is a small group of cards that can work as a mini combo engine for mana fixing with green mainly. I might have worded it poorly
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>>96444943
You don't need a small group for that.
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>>96443910
cope ygo is easily bottom of the 3. magic is still king even if it's killing itself. pokemon is kinda boring ngl
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>>96445052
you obviously got filtered by an actually skilled game that requires you to react instead of windmill slam red card.
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>>96445056
lmao why are you even here to shill your 'combo is the only viable archetype' ass game? lab isn't even good anymore.
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>>96445075
>lmao why are you even here to shill your 'aggro is the only viable archetype' ass game? storm isn't even good anymore.
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Honestly? This card would save Modern
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>>96444897
>Also, no, I don't really care about Mai.
You will after the movie (she got hot)
>>96445131
Nah, modern is lost. WotC sacrificed it in their ritual to make the game shit and appealing for trans and woman.
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So /mtg/, what Mayhem spell are they gonna reveal that either breaks RBx discard or makes Vivi Cauldron even more insufferable than it already is?
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>>96444955
Hmm kinda slow but i will try it thanks
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>>96445551
This sometimes work if you get lucky.
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>>96445344
They'll be costed as if they didn't have flash.
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>>96445131
>the solution to saving modern is making esper blink even stronger
I bet you're a historic player lmao
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mayhem seems a bit overtuned in the spiderman set
or maybe everything else just sucks
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>>96445958
it's less fun madness
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>>96444204
Standard obviously can be saved pretty easily
A new format may need to be created for a non-rotating format.
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>>96442824
""""magic"""" players getting exactly what they wanted and deserve
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YGO-ass overly narrow tutor card.
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And Spiders-Man's pronouns are they/them, because they're literally thousands of spiders.
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Also this.
Web of Life and Destiny
Enchantment
Convoke
At the beginning of combat on your turn, look at the top five cards of your library. You may put a creature card from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
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>>96446254
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>>96445709
This art is so strikingly ugly, what the fuck is even going on with the random 2000's windows graphics
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>>96443591
More than anything, this post just reminds me of how fucking awful Tetra Master was.
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>>96446308
>More than anything, this post just reminds me of how fucking awful Tetra Master was.
Triple Triad is the true gigachad of fake final fantasy card games.
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These cards are so utterly shit…
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>>96446327
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>>96446239
>1-mana spider (not hero) with reach and deathtouch
I'm kinda surprised they were willing to make one.

>>96446245
Mediocre tribal fodder, though it makes me wonder how many cards will make spider tokens in this set.

>>96446254
>>96446258
Could've been interesting if we had more non-attacking token generators in standard (maybe the spider tokens will fill that gap), but it'll probably see play in some sort of combo deck at some point.
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>>96446239
changelings
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>>96446239
>>96446245
>>96446258
Imagine try to play this in the Vivi world
LOL
LMAO even
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I haven't looked up any of the previews, how are people feeling about the set? Shit like this makes me think it's gonna be overpowered.
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>>96446417
I am looking forward to the Universes Within.
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thank god I only play my cube.
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>>96446439
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>>96446417
>1RR
>Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, add R.
WHAT COULD GO WRONG?!
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>>96446245
New Ishkanah.
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I’m so tired of izzet, rakdos and everything involving mountains lately… If i never see a mountain again like happens with forest i will be very happy.
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>>96446439
wotc: people are trying to have FUN without US?
>changes your game rules
NO ONE IS SAFE
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My cube uses the rules prior to combat damage on the stack :^)
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>>96445145
>You will after the movie (she got hot)
I don't see how she could, considering we've seen her body before and she's lanky.
Also, I just read up on her, and it seems that in the comics she breaks up with Zuko almost immediately after the end of the series and starts dating some loser, so her one value as being part of the only cute couple in the series is also gone.

Considering she wasn't even mentioned in LoK and it seems like they would have if she was Zuko's child's mother, there's really nothing even connecting her to the rest of the characters. She might not even be in the movie.
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>>96446258
>Red de la Vida y el Destino
>It's actually green
>Ultimate Green Goblin
>It's actually red and black
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>>96446753
well, most goblins are greenskins anyway.
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>>96446485
It's just that Kaldheim goddess again
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>>96446276
>what the fuck is even going on with the random 2000's windows graphics
there's a certain charm to them, but that card is indeed a bit busy to the eye
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>>96443896
>deck called rb sac viper
>2 vipers
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>>96446753
>This colour in the card's Spanish name (that is actually just Spanish for web) is incorrect for the card
>This character is physically green, that means it's incorrect for him to be non-Green in Magic
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>>96446810
Or, wait, that's Italian. Romantic languages blur together.
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>>96446840
......
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Also some bonus sheet stuff. This one's Beast Within.
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And Terminate.
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>>96446840
Universes Within variant will be something Orzhov flavored.
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And this thing.
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>>96446879
Could also just be Capenna or Kamigawa. Rent is still a 'thing' in more fantastical settings. Or even medieval ones, though the 'feel' of it suits Capenna/Kamigawa more.
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>>96442824
Clearly Cauldron was a mistake, they should ban it.
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>>96446886
I hate spiderman's multiverse shit almost as much as I hate UB and hat sets
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...I have no idea who this is. Maro's article previewed him and he talks about some stuff. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/spider-man-magic-meets-marvel
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>>96446840
>doesn't sac the treasure
>cast on yourself and not on opponent, like a curse
>draws cards instead of doing something more appropriate, like messing with lands
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>>96446895
Well I'm hoping they will get creative, not follow the line of least resistance.
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>>96446923
He's a guy from the JMS run on Spider-Man, which introduced the Totem and Spider-god stuff
Sims is sorta meant to be Golden Age Spider-Man, but rejected being a hero or a villain and instead just went into business
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>>96446929
It draws cards because you're continuing maintaining your living which I guess helps you think clearly I dunno. Life gain would be too underwhelming, so it had to be more powerful. As for why it doesn't sac the Treasure, that'd just feel horrible to use ever.
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>>96446937
Feels an interesting deep pull I guess, not one I would've even known of.
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>>96446946
They had to make deep pulls since it's just Spiderman and his related stuff, rather than Marvel as a whole
Although, I do admit that I don't really care for the set; I would absolutely pay for a Leopardon card
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>>96446968
I do wonder if Japanese Spider-Man will show up.
The rights issues surrounding the character seem complicated
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>>96446968
Leopardon I think is almost certainly a no because of rights issues (I think it's Toei that owns the rights there or something?) and WotC's not gonna negotiate with them for just a single card.
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>>96446923
MaRo is the lore expert for Marvels.
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>>96446784
It was named that to distinguish it from the previous version that didn't have any vipers
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>>96447002
Yeah, we knew this, which is why him not leading this set was kinda surprising (apparently it's because he's leading the next Marvel set which checks out).
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>>96446923
Ezekiel is the guy who introduces the whole Spider-Totem stuff (and also the order of vampires who feed on totem humans). He's a mentor to Peter (though he wanted him to hide from the vampire instead of fighting him. To be fair, Peter had to do the completely insane move of irradiating himself again with a near-lethal dose and then forcefeed himself to the vampire to kill the guy)
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>>96447017
Comics are silly.
Apparently this guy was the bad guy of the Madame Web movie, though much like nearly everybody else in that movie it was basically "him in name only".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Olc8UCxA8
new seth just dropped
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Also a much harder confirmation that Spider-Man was originally a 100 card set.
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Implication that Spider-Man having only 1 Infinity Stone is the exception instead of the norm. I can see 2, 2, and then the final one plus the gauntlet for three more sets?
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>>96447059
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>>96447059
>>96447064
It sounds like they removed a gem from one of the two future Marvel sets. Seems like the Soul Gem was the easiest to design so they moved it Spider-man while the other two are Marvel sets and gems are still in development.
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>>96444502
affinity bros...
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>>96447094
Depends how many more Marvel sets there are. We don't know and have been given no definitive number, but I can't see it being more than 4 in total and even that might be stretching things (X-Men, Avengers/General stuff, Cosmic stuff would be the next 3).
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This feels like a more interesting 'camera' design than the photos did at least.
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>>96447197
>I, GREAT WIZARD PLANESWALKER ZAGERRATH
>I WIELD ALL THE MAGIC OF THE MULTIVERSE
>WITH ALL THIS POWER I FACE YOU.
>PREPARE TO DIE, FOR I...
>I SUMMON...

>a camera
>*snap*
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>>96447217
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>>96447219
Yes that is a medieval weapon of war with uncountable confirmed uses to kill and maim people throughout history.
What point are you even trying to make here?
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>>96447217
Haven't haven't you heard of the ancient wizardry technique called Camera Obscura.
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>>96447225
It's literally just soup.
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Maro this Maro that. What about Forsythe?
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>>96447237
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_thermal_weapons
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>>96447219
SOUL
BLAST
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>>96447197
zamn this thing's going to be fun
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Flash Thompson has flash, people will now be upset about this, like they would have been upset if he didn't.
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>>96447250
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_obscura
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>>96447311
Universes Within Masako.
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>>96447197
this shit can copy fetch lands
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>>96447197
Universes Within Strionic Camera
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The future is now, old man.
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>>96447344
That's 3 mana for 1 land
5 mana for 2
And 7 for three
So it's a little above rate, but it's a nice target of opportunity if you also want it for other stuff I guess
>>96447311
The blonde looks like AI.
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>>96447394
Assuming that's mean to be Liz it's a weird look for her. She's usually just a straight-haired blonde.
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>>96446946
>>96446968
It was not a deep pull at all by comic standards. Having Mr. Universe spiderman would be a deep pull. The fucking universal web and mystical spider shit is still a big factor in current spider-man stories, so he's still relevant to the current setting.
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>>96447431
True, it's not deep to the comics reader, but it's deep to people who know Spider-Man broadly.
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>>96447197
For maximum flavor, it should only work for creature abilities.
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>>96446840
This card is broken, that's fucked, one mana draw an extra card every turn.
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>>96447471
>This card is broken, that's fucked, one mana draw an extra card every turn.
It's not even remotely as good as Annex.
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>>96447394
I WILL NOW TAKE A PICTURE OF TIFA TITS
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>>96447471
IF you have two untapped creatures/treasures. Otherwise it just sacs itself and you get nothing.
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>>96447489
Oh shit you're right
It hits Ordeal of Nylea and Ourobourid or however you spell it too.
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>>96447489
>*snap*
this goes right into my tifa's tits compilation
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topkek
Apparently the portrait is from Rainbow Six Siege.
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>>96447557
Face blindness
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>>96447557
That's nowhere near enough to be plagiarism or anything. And Kraven doesn't usually have a beard, that's just shading.
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>>96447471
You need to tap down a bunch of your shit, which is basically putting you down a card already.
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>>96447557
anti-shills are second in retardation only to shills
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>>96447565
all gringos look the same
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>>96447197
>City Pigeon
>Guy in a Chair
>Cabbage Merchant
>A fucking Camera
Where is the bottom of the barrel?
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>>96447489
This is just the /d/ side of me talking, but I'm surprised that there wasn't an influx of size-related Tifa after the set came out considering all the doubling/ "size change" cards that are in the game
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>>96447603
>Where is the bottom of the barrel?
Really racking my brain, my current estimate for the absolute bottom of the barrel would be something like

>Blackpink Light Stick
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>>96447603
>Where is the bottom of the barrel?
Rikishi's Signature: Stink Face

(no hate to Rikishi)
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>>96447603
Hoho just you wait for the inevitable Minecraft UB where you will get “Poisonous Potato” LOL
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>>96447603
>City Pigeon
works in Mercadia, Ravnica, any city setting
>Cabbage Merchant
works nearly anywhere
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>>96447603
do you think cabbages are modern technology
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>>96447603
Tongue-Tricking Spoon
Needle-Free Injection
Bug-Watching Camera
At-Home Fertility Tests
A.I.-Powered Lipstick
Ultraviolet Filter Coffee Pot
Outsourced Memory Device
Gyroscopic Earbuds
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Spider Punk
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are you nostalgic yet?
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They changed infinity to terminus.
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>>96447722
So is this a known plane or is it a new one they made up for this In-universe set?
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>>96447730
>2020
Not enough.
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>>96447745
It's like Core Set, whatever comes.
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>>96447722
This is even better than expected, because I thought it's gonna have the original card name in the framee.
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>>96447730
AND.
THAT'S.
A.
THREAT.
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>>96447737
So it's two new types being added to the game? One of which does not exist in paper and the other does not exist in Arena?

Absolute, unfettered retardation. Holy fuck. WHY EVEN GIVE THE FUCKING INFINITY STONE A FUCKING TYPE IF IT IS GOING TO CAUSE THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS. JUST MAKE IT A GENERIC ARTIFACT HOLY FUCK.
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>>96447722
where is guy in a chair
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>>96447796
patience
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>>96447197
right in my cringe compilation
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>>96447722
He is summoning the spiders...Because he's SPIDER MAN!
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>>96447784
Clearly they didn't expect Disney to not allow them to "print" the card in their digital client and this was a quick fix they had to do quickly.
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>>96447828
It is supposed to be a functional clone. The creature type is different. That is not a functional clone.
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>>96447784
Arena adds all kinds of shit of that doesn't exist in paper rules. Not sure why you're getting upset about this one in particular. Simply ignore it.
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>>96447784
>IF IT IS GOING TO CAUSE THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS
But... there isn't a problem here?
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>>96447784
Nah fuck this. Fuck your Marvel. Fuck your infinity stone.
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>>96447784
It is better to test this early on Arena before they implement it in paper.
>>96447784
They are technically the same type in the rules like convert is equivalent to transform.
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Anyway here's Flash later in life.
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>>96447890
>before they implement it in paper.
They will NOT implement it in paper. Those cards are for Arena and MTG only.
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>>96447908
I mean the equivalent card types. They already said if they reprint something like Astartes the are going to change the type but it will still be equivalent to Astartes so that if you name the type for an effect it will check for both.
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>>96447937
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>>96447311
Why he isn't indian?

>>96447557
What? You guy got right 3 times but now you guys are just shooting the wind.

>>96447730
I m even missing companions

>>96447722
Should have changed Hero and villain types (like they did >>96447737 )

>>96447893
lame
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>>96448086
They're just reusing an old type.
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>>96448086
>Why he isn't indian?
why would he be?
>Should have changed Hero and villain types
Why? That would be a functional change for no reason.
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This shit has set at new whole standard of awfulness. Really thought Spider-Man could make better set material after seeing FF…
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>>96447754
The name seems to point to Zendikar.
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>>96448218
Pantlaza is Ixalan.
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I used to read Spiderman when I was a teen. I started out after watching the Raimi movies. After a few months my enthusiasm had turned into disappointment. Marvel comics are absolute dogshit. It's like they want to punish you for getting invested in the lore. I have 0 interest in Marvel cards or yet another version of Spiderman from an alternative dimension.
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>>96448213
>Really thought Spider-Man could make better set material after seeing FF
How can you possibly think that? Spiderman comics has been terrible since the 90s.
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I just want the saga that depicts spider-man sacrificing his wife and child to the devil.
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>>96448289
Honestly, it'd probably just be a board wipe that doesn't affect your commander if you sac another one of your creatures
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>>96448289
Does it happen in the comics?
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>>96448394
Not his actual child, his potential future child. And not his wife specifically, his marriage itself. Because literally nobody in the world can save Aunt May from a bullet wound except Mephisto, and despite literal actual God telling Peter "hey, look, sometimes it's just somebody's time" beforehand, Peter ends up making a deal with the devil that splits him up from MJ and he's never gotten back with her to any significant extent and it's the most hated comic story... Basically ever.
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>>96448394
Yes, it's called One More Day. At that point everyone knew Peter's secret identity (a consequence of the Civil War saga) and Aunt May was dying from a bullet wound. Peter is desperate and Mephisto goes to him with an offer: his marriage for Aunt May's life. He accepts without realizing he's also giving away the life of the daughter he would have had with Mary Jane.
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>>96448213
>slop eater confused that the new slop is still bad
"People" like you ruin everything.
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Remember when Aunt May's death gave us one of the best Spiderman issues ever? Only to find out (several years later) that Goblin had kidnapped and replaced a terminally ill May with a genetically-altered actress? Peak storytelling right there. Also Norman fucked Gwen and they had twins.
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>>96448518
And then they retconned that second part so that Mysterio was just fucking with Norman.
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Where are the attractive girls in this set?
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>>96448657
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>>96447002
Imagine stating something like this and then trying to justify "Rent is Due" as a *key* part of Spider-Man lore / universe in a set with an already low amount of cards.

Young Peter struggling with money isn't anything other than background flavor. It isn't core to Spider-Man or a driving impetus that makes him what he is. Holy fucking shit this set is beyond cursed.
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>>96448664
>tongue tentacle
would
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>>96448692
memes are a loadbearing "key" of any franchise
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>>96448692
Nah don’t worry every fucking UB upcoming set will be full of memes for now we are seeing this capeshit slop is more a meme gathering than an actual set and in ATLA we already saw “the quenchiest!” and the cabagge faggot.
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>>96447009
Next Marvel set will have Companion 2 where instead of your sideboard they now come from a dedicated Superhero deck like stickers/attractions.
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>>96448692
The idea that a guy who's smart enough to invent a stronger-than-steel self-polymerizing liquid fiber and who's best friend is the son of a multi-millionaire scientist would worry about money is one of those things where we need to take a step back and ask how bad Aunt May's cocaine habit was and whether Peter should have kept being an enabler.
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You’ll get spiderverse OCs instead of Black Cat, and you’ll be happy about it.
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>>96448799
There's a card in Maro's teaser that's about looking at the top 9 cards of your opponent's library, that's gonna be Black Cat.
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>>96448657
You don't need attractive women. You don't need Black Cat, Silver Sable, Silk, etc when you have >>96448799
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>>96448851
I never liked Silk as a Peter love interest, felt forced. She's a good character overall but "her and Peter just get incredibly horny because pheromones whenever they're together" was stupid.
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>>96448518
None of thers of comics know what to do with May. I'm surprised she is still alive at this point
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not Magic the Gathering
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>>96448237
That's most people's opinion on US comics right now.
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>>96448919
Superman's current run is apparently good. Same with Fantastic Four and most of the Absolute and Ultimate lines from DC and Marvel, respectively.
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>>96448903
we're discussing lore of an upcoming Magic the Gathering card
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>>96448965
now I'm imaging aunt may with a terrarium filled with tarantulas
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>>96448965
Who was the genius who thought this fucking game needed Aunt may? Will they put Uncle Ben then? What the fuck
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>>96448926
The current Superman run is decent, from what I read. FF is a marmite book, people either like it or hate it.
The only books most people seem to like outside of the Absolute and Ultimate lines that you mentioned are Moon Knight, Thor, Batman Dark Patterns, and New Gods are also decent
But no one seems to read Spider-Man or Venom comics these days for any reason outside of Bile fascistion or Hate reading, and that basically has been the case for Spider-Man for the past 20 years.
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>>96448999
Look at the wall.
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>>96449023
True. I've heard some Image stuff is good these days but I dunno. I tried to get into their Supermassive Universe or whatever but it seems like everything ties into everything else and it's annoying.
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>>96449052
Yeah, when people say image stuff, I'm guessing it's mostly the Skybound Transformers and GI joe books.
The Supermassive books are a bit too incestuous to get into unless you know about Toku tropes or got in at the start
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>>96447828
>Clearly they didn't expect Disney to not allow them to "print" the card in their digital client
nah, this would have been known from the get-go. the suits at hasbro probably just presented them the news that they were making a spider-man set and told them to "make it work", given the constraints.
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>White Spiderman
>Black Spiderman
>Indian Spiderman
>Pig Spiderman
>Gwen Spiderman
>Symbiote Spiderman
>Symbiote Spiderman but red
>Symbiote Spiderman but Gwen
>Spiderman noir
>Iron Spiderman
>Punk Spiderman
>Future Spiderman
>Mech-suit Spiderman
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>>96449112
It's a Spider-Man set, what the fuck would you expect?
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>>96449133
nta but less Spider-verse and more mainline Spider-Man content
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>>96449156
There's so much you can milk out of mainline Spider-Man.
And commanderfolk crave variety.
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>>96449133
American comics are notorious for recyling the same fucking character over and over. How many Superman, Flash and Batman variants are out there? Both DC and Marvel insist upon themselves to a nauseating degree. That's my point.
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>>96449133
>>96449112
who thought this was a good idea. it's just ONE guy over and over and over on every card
even the ones that are not about him have him on em most of the time. like. FUCK
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>>96449133
Yeah anon? What could we expect from this card game new set based on capeshit than 40518219 variations of the same character again and again? Surely you as customer must be very happy about this uh?
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>>96448851
who're letfmost and rightmost girls?
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How do UB enjoyers not die from sheer cringe embarrassment?
Even the special Olympics athletes don’t do this many mental gymnastics
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>>96449316
Betty Brant (left)
Firestar (right)
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The most predictable card ever.
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>>96449448
Couldn't they at least have made it not dogshit? The card design is both boring and underpowered
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>>96449448
slots right into my lazav edh deck
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>>96449468
die die die
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>>96449467
overcosted blue rare/mythic with not enough justification to use something more explosive in cmdr for the same cmc to just actually win
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>>96449467
6 mana for an I-Win card is not underpowered, it's about on-par for a mythic card.
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>>96449322
I just tend to use only have the name to hide the slight embarrassment.
Using >>96448799 as an example, I'd just say Web Warden instead of the first name
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>>96447828
>>96449077
The whole idea of UB was just so Mark could eventually do the Marvel shit he really wanted rather than his in-universe OC knockoffs.
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>>96449448
>Nontoken
Cowards
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>>96449496
Mark Rosewater hasn't created a character since the Weatherlight saga, which more directly lifts from Star Trek than anything.
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>>96449480
It's win more
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>>96449448
>6 mana do nothing in this meta
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>>96449448
>ExCePt It IsN't LeGeNdArY
design slop
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I like how for the second Throne of Eldraine set they just didn't bother to do the alt borders for the uncommons and commons like
>"Yeah whatever let's just cheap out and look like scummy losers."
Amazing.
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>>96449511
yes I'm sure he had absolutely nothing to do with the jacetice league
that's why he gets so mad when you use that name
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>>96449512
Fair.
But, it's the kind of annoying card that shifts the game hard in your favor unless it's removed. I'd hate to see it for 5 or less. Hell, I hate to see it at 6.
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hehe.. memes on cards..
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>>96449330
No right is Ultimate Kitty Pryde
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>>96449448
Oh yeah, right in my Bill Ferny deck
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>>96448289
>Target opponent gains control of all creatures you control.
>Take an extra turn after this one.
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Half the cards are quips and the other half is member berries
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>>96449718
This is what you (yes you specifically) wanted by being okay with UB in any sense when the walking dead first dropped
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So we all agree that UB slop is a short term gimmick to siphon off every shekel from whale investors until there’s nothing left and then golden parachute out, leaving JOTC to crash and burn until some other predatory vulture capital company snatches them up next.
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>>96449795
Hasbro is sucking MTG dry
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>>96449795
>So we all agree that UB slop is a short term gimmick to siphon off every shekel from whale investors until there’s nothing left and then golden parachute out
Yeah basically. It's what modern capitalism demands.
Hunt undervalued companies to force your way into CEO status of, suck them dry so you can slap "4xd their profits in 10 years!" on your resume, then jump ship before the inevitable crash happens. You get a new kushy CEO job at the next company you aim to cannibalize, and leave all the consequences of your actions to the consumers. Then you die, give all your wealth to charity in your will (Your kids get NOTHING) and go to Hell.

MTG is just one example of the modern results of unfettered, unchecked, unrepentant, unapologetic greed. Everything burns. Culture turns to ash. But you, on your deathbed, with nothing to show for it but a big number on the screen....

You....... you made.... you made line go up....
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>>96449718
I mean it is Spider-Man, quips is kind of the 'thing'.
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>>96449867
I think about the 20 years 20 lessons learned video sometimes and imagine the new people at WOTC all but have a leatherbound tome written up by old heads titled "All the awful things that would make a lot of money in the short term but would kill the game in the long run and should be avoided"
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>>96449922
>I think about the 20 years 20 lessons learned video sometimes and imagine the new people at WOTC all but have a leatherbound tome written up by old heads titled "All the awful things that would make a lot of money in the short term but would kill the game in the long run and should be avoided"
Nah the book they give new people is titled "Because Fuck You, That's Why" nowadays.
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Premodern.
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>>96449448
when are zoomers going to be satisfied they ruined every good thing we had
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>>96448799
Will they have Sun-Spider CHarolette Webber?
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>>96449448
Nigger nigger nigger
niggger[/nigger]



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