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Previous Thread: >>96437170

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: Have you ever made someone rage quit or just throw a fit at the table?
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>tq
Yeah someone exiled Gravecrawler from my graveyard in my Orzhov zombies deck and I got it back with Pull from Eternity.
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>>96444489
holy fucking based
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>TQ
Yeah. I made a Grismold player quit because I destroyed his two enchantments that would insta kill the plant tokens coming into play.
>This is bullshit. I don't know why I'm playing with you if you are not going to let me play!
His exact words before he scooped his cards up, retreated over to another table and proceeded to cry about it to his friends for the rest of the night.
Last time I played at an lgs and with random people.
I really don't understand the mindset of people in edh. If everyone gets "to play" then who wins? If I had let the grismold player "play" he would have won within a few rounds.
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My friends constantly nope out of games because they don't run enough removal to deal with my board.
They won't even play against my shitty control deck because they can't bother to run more than 1 single target artifact removal.
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>>96444461
>TQ
more than a few times
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>>96444506
How do you do that? Every deck pisses someone off.
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>>96444461
>TQ
Yes. Guy shows up to Commander night, we're playing the following:
>Delina, Wild Mage (me)
>Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
>OG Palladias-Mors
>not a high power pod by any means
>Sits down, whips out Stella Lee
>"This is a slightly upgraded precon guys"
>T1 Land, Mana Crypt, mana rock
>Me and the other three players look at each other with that look that exchanges five or six gb of data in an instant
>Gisela player pops the crypt
>Palladias-Mors guy starts beating his face in
>I get ETB copies to blow up Stella Lee when he recasts her
>After a few turn cycles of this the guy rage scoops
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>>96444461
Imagine getting upset over a card game
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>>96444461
>TQ
Yeah did a tournament at a lgs a few towns over. Nothing special 5 dollar entry and winner got the promo darksteel colossus and a pack. Played in a pod with 2 tards, one was playing and upgraded Lathril and the other a way undertuned yuriko. I beat them both in a total of 6 turns over 2 games, yurikofag got assblasted and yelled he might as well set his 5 dollars on fire and refused to play against that deck again. Funny enough I won with worldfire in one of those games kek
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Are there any decks you guys run where you just don't slot in board wipes? I have plenty of interaction in my deck, counter spells, single target creature removal, fight cards, enchantment hate, ect but I'm really tempted to slot out my single board wipe in Settle the Wreckage and instead put in a Tibalt's Trickery to try and nip issues in the bud that way and it seems kinda more fun to pilot since I know I don't have a catchup like Farewell so I really have to be smart on what to put down when
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>>96444543
nope even in creature heavy decks i usually still end up running 1 or 2 theres just way too many decks that vomit out their library in one turn for me not to
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>>96444461
>TQ: Have you ever made someone rage quit or just throw a fit at the table?
Only in standard, never edh. Back in zendikar/alara type 2 I beat someone's $1200 jund pile with a monogreen nissa deck full of Nissa's chosen, nissa and eldrazi monument. The guy flipped out because he said his deck was designed to beat mine then he showed me all the cards he could have drawn that would have beat me. Then he bitched to himself while flipping through his deck and left the store even though it was only round 2.
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>playing against my friend's theft deck
>I'm on lifegain
>nearing the end of the game
>he draws a card
>"oh looks like I have someone's Plains lol"
>I'm very particular with my lands
>it has to be mine
>but it's in a different sleeve
>rememeber I resleeved this deck like 2 months back
>that's the old sleeve
>remember I was mysteriously short two cards when resleeving
>mfw I'm still missing a card
>no idea what it is
I hate theft decks so much it's actually unreal
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>>96444543
If it's not a control deck, I don't generally run any boardwipes
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My printer is smiling at me, shill, can you say the same?
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>>96444592
Shit like that is why I always count my cards outloud after games vs theft decks.
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>>96444636
I took my printer out back and sent it upstate
fukken hate HP
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>>96444525
>Day of Judgment
wtf I never heard of this card before
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>>96444636
I know Seiko Epson sure is.
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>>96444592
How does that happen? Every theft deck I have ever seen uses sleeves in colors nobody else uses. Like turquoise or some shade of purple.
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>>96444636
Proxies you printed yourself always look like ass. Go the full mile and order them from China.
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>>96444680
>paying more than a dollar for fake cards
Honestly kill yourself
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>>96444689
mine come out to 40 cents each, are you getting all your proxies custom art foiled?
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>>96444696
I mean a dollar, total. But even so, shipping alone brings that well over a dollar now.
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>>96444689
Nobody pays a dollar for proxies. Go sell your printers somewhere else, Epson-boy.
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>Big Printer shills here now
say it ain't so
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>finally losing the will to play this game

later virgins
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>>96444698
buy in bulk, my cards come to 40c each including shipping
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TQ
>friend playing Roxanne, Starfall Savant deck
>constantly overextending playing every single card they can each turn
>also though their cards are just a bunch of good stuff synergy pieces that aren't really affecting anyone else's board state so he's not doing shit but using meteors to kill chumps and doing scratch damage to make more of them, just durdling in his corner accruing a bunch of mana and card draw
>pull all of my boardwipes and over the course of the game I wipe his artifacts/board 3 times because he also doesn't use nearly enough protection
>he eventually just "gives up trying to do anything" and just sits there waiting for us (me) to smash them out of existence

Caused genuine seethe too. Dude mentioned it in our group chat as soon as he got home, complaining about board wipes being nonsense that kill the vibe of the game, occasionally dropped a snide remark alluding to it over the next few weeks. Fag actually just wants to sit there playing solitaire filling up his board with do nothing synergy pieces until he digs out the one fucking card he has in his deck that actually lets him win and refuses to pack anywhere near enough interaction to defend his board or fuck with others. He rarely scoops but if you mess with his plan a few times during games he'll just shut down and stop bothering to try.

>>96444543
All that being said, if my deck is aggro and supposed to shit out a bunch of creatures I run little to no board wipes unless they're cost effective and asymmetrical. I've never ever been happy to pull a wipe in those decks and it's never actually helped me win when I can just flood my opponents with more creatures than they can block anyways. I do replace wipes with protection/spot removal in those decks instead though.
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>>96444461
Given my friends are anti-everything from Japan, the throwing fit part has been happening on a more regular basis than normal thanks to anime printings of cards, FF and Secret Lairs like Sonic. As for rage quits, a variation of pic did the trick at the start of the year to a friend’s friend with another friend’s unexpected help.
>Friends spend all game using their removal and counterspells to get rid of my stax and wincon pieces. This lets the friend of a friend mill the entire table with Mothman shenanigans
>Mothman also refusing to let players make minor corrections to their plays.
>Just an unlikeable cunt
>Makes snarky comments about it all game. “If you don’t know your own cards then you shouldn’t be playing them”
>All down to about a dozen cards left in decks
>Mothman has biggest board presence but down to lowest life, one open mana and two cards in hand
>I only have Ashaya left on field with Quirion Ranger and Mana Tithe in hand
>My turn comes, I draw Bontu’s Monument
>Drop BM
>Mothman spergs out instantly and says I’m DQ’d for running a black card outside a black deck. Only begrudgingly drops the matter when it’s pointed out the card has no colour identity and can go into any deck
>Drop Quirion Ranger
>Mothman casts Mental Mistep using his sole remaining source of mana
>Mana Tithe it
>’Oh in that case I pay 2 life instead and use my mana to pay the Tithe’
>Despite it seeming like the table is dead, other friends and I refuse to let him retract the move, quip his own quips back to him.
>Forced to sit there as I kill him with QR and BM loops
>As soon as he’s dead, another friend casts their Arcane Denial when I next cast QR
>Mothman player fully spergs out and demands to know why they didn’t do it sooner (I.e. while they were still alive)
>”Because fuck you, that’s why”
>Mothman tries packing up their stuff as quickly as they can (they fumble a few times) and then leaves without saying anything to anyone.
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>>96444689
>he worries about spending more than a dollar on things

Peak poorfag mental processes lmao
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>>96444733
Paying for counterfeit product is infinitely more poorfag mentality than penny-pinching
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What's the lore behind why Kaalia can summon Demons Dragons or Angels? Does she have some sort of pact with them?
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>>96444738
She's calling her boytoys over to beat your ass
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>>96444738
sex
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>>96444751
No
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>>96444751
cEDH is bad for you.
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>>96444776
Sorry that you're poor
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>>96444751
you could get all those cards for less than $30 from MPC nigga
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>>96444738
She is a prostitute that exchanges sex with her holes for favors from them.
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What's the point of this thing? You can still buy more than eight, by paying what's in the cart and then ordering more.
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>>96444738
she's a genetic freak who can't use all five colors of mana on a rejoined alara where everyone else can. at least until they got some degenerate on the team who made it >>96444802
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>tq
>be me a few months ago
>visiting family in buttfuck nowhere NorCal edition
>decide to head to nearby lgs while in town
>figured it'll be nice to play with with new people
>sit down for first pod
>one player mentions he's new to game, and only has a precon
>another player mentions he's going to switch to a different deck to match new kid's powerlevel
>I follow suite
>final guy who sees us all pick decks before deciding what he wants to play goes "oh this will be easy then" and drops Breya
>one local guy that I guess knows him tells him to not be a jackass and switch to one of his less powerful decks
>Breya guy says something along the lines of "this is competitive game, winners get a play booster"
>I mention that if we're playing to win I can definitely switch to Saffi
>Breya guy flat out tells me I can't do that and if I switch my deck he'll call a judge
>I tell him to call a judge
>he does
>skinny dude comes over and listens to this grown man complain about me "breaking the rule 0"
>skinny dude just tells him I didn't do anything wrong and to take the unnamed dude's advice from earlier
>we play, he ends up spending most of the game targeting me and making dumb decisions just to spite me
>I still end up winning because Saffi goes infinite with a ham sandwich
>dude gets up and leaves, doesn't say anything
>end up giving pack to new kid
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In what decks do you play rocks? In what decks don't you?
I'm more looking for your actual decks/commanders where you do and don't run them, not necessarily a hypothetical question.
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>>96444877
This reads like some made-up story from reddit, carefully designed to get as much karma as possible. But knowing Magic players, you just know it to be true.
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I opened this card
I like this card
What are some good commanders I can slot this card into
Please no 5 colored commanders as I am not a homosexual
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>>96444893
Its a symptom of reddit being the only social media unblocked at my work I apologize
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>>96444893
This is the only part that probably isn't true
>>96444877
>end up giving pack to new kid
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>>96444906
It was a thunder junction play booster and yes I want the new players to have at least a somewhat positive experience
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>>96444894
It's probably best in something like Vivi but such commanders are also for homosexuals.
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>buddy plays a 4c control deck
>you basically never get to play if you're sat before him in turn order
what's a fun aggro commander to buttfuck this strategy?
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>>96444894
I have it in a goblin deck with all the other damage enhancers. It works surprisingly well.
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>>96444924
surrak, any
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>>96444894
Shao Jun
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>>96444657
>Oooohh you want to print wirelessly, sorry Dave I can’t do that unless you spend 8 hours trying to find my retarded drivers.
>what’s that a uni assignment due, and you trying to print in black and white, sorry, but I’m all out of yellow.
Last Hewlett Fudge Packer I had, I punched.
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>>96444887
>In what decks do you play rocks?
Every one of them. I don't have a landfall deck, but I imagine you wouldn't play them in that since you're flooding the board with lands
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>>96444887
Everything except for mono green
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>>96444461
>TQ
Petty sure i mentioned it a few times by now but the first mtg crashout I caused was from doing a Kederkt Leviathan+Animate Dead lock that made this 40 year old dad leave the store. Kederekt will always be my favorite bulk rare because if this fond memory.
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>>96444887
I don’t usually worry about them in mono coloured decks. In multi coloured decks I just run ones that provide mana fixing (and sol ring of course).
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Decide for me anons, which do I build first, Faeries or Oozes
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>>96445030
Oozes are cooler than faeries. Aeve also just seems like he'd be more interesting to solve.
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>>96444461
>TQ
I have made an izzet player ragequit by just asking "how many damage" and he could not keep track of all the prowess and binary scalating self cloning tokens
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>>96444543
Turn it around, lets see i want to play a slow game...how many is too many boardwipes
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>>96445030
I think Alela is a fun deck to play, but I've only really taken faeries out of it as I upgraded. Down to only 6 left (not counting the commander). I doubt the ooze would work any better as a tribal deck though, he seems like he's just a payoff for a Glimpse of Nature deck.
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>>96445030
mix the!!!, cum (ooze) all over the sluts (fairies)
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Brand new to Magic, bought the Explorers of the Deep Merfolk Precon and am looking to go to Friday night Magic at LGS this week.
Cards are in sleeves, I have a plain black play mat and some d6 I think to use for +1/+1 counters. Done some gold fishing to get used to the deck and play and know the basics from Arena.
What else do I need to bring with me?
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>>96444525
This is how I find out Koma can tap lands, I've never thought of doing something so evil.
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>>96444461
Yeah, though only once or twice. The only time that stands out was with a guy playing 3Dog. I attacked him twice after he got Authority of the Consuls out on a table with everyone playing something that wants to attack. I swung at him twice with my Coram over the course of two turns for a total of five damage, the mills were bad, and he got frustrated and just scooped claiming he was being targeted unfairly. No one removed any of this things and I only swung at him with Coram. His life total was still well over his starting life even after I attacked him.
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Bracket 1: G
Bracket 2: PG
Bracket 3: PG-13
Bracket 4: R
Bracket 5: NC-17
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>>96445030
Aeve as he allows you to play on of my favorite cards
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>>96445081
You've got a deck, a mat, dice for counters which you will likely need in that precon, and you know the starters of what you are doing. You should be fine. Just let the people you're playing with know you're new and you'll be fine.
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>>96445124
That implies there's something risque and fun to see at CEDH tables beyond fat guy ass cracks
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>>96445081
That's more than most regulars I see bring. Because you're playing merfolk counters, bring a few more d6 than you think you'll need, cuz that shit gets out of hand very fast. Also pemember that proliferate triggers allow you to put an extra counter on ALL your permanents with counters, not just one.
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>>96445158
It means Bracket 1 is for literal children and bracket 4 and 5 are for adults.
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>>96445158
No, it (accurately) implies that the bracket 5 table will call you a slur.
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>>96445173
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>>96445072
I can't see any world where anything past like 6 is needed even in the most battlecruiser of battlecruiser decks
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>>96444887
I used to play rocks in pretty much every deck but I've been changing up how much ramp I include quite a bit and honestly, unless they're absolute bangers, I don't include much ramp anymore let alone rocks. The average curve of good creatures has fallen by damn near 2-3 points over the last 10 years, a 2.00-3.99 curve isn't just for aggro decks anymore. The need to have 11+ sources in each deck no longer exists unless you're a mega degenerate playing good stuff, and nothing feels worse top decking some shitty rock turn 5+ when you (should) have all the mana you need to play anything in your deck anyways.

Mana rock design has languished because they refused to make cards that are unequivocally for Commander only, so we've been stuck with mediocre 3 mana rocks as new design for years because 1-2cmc good mana rocks would fuck with other formats, but the Soul Stone broke the streak so we might start seeing more rocks worth playing again soon, but as is they're mostly just wastes of space in 90% of decks and could be mostly removed with proper deck building.
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>>96444543
I usually try to run a max of two. I've found that specific targeted removal at the right time can hurt a board just enough to take someone out usually and it doesn't come with it the same ire that a board wipe may from the whole table.
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I wanna build a deck that just fucks up the whole table and makes people rage quit just in case some asshole sits in my pod what commander would be best for such an event?
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>>96445162
>CEDH is for adults
>The people who need to proxy every card in their decks because they have such little disposable income they can't afford to take their "competitive" hobby seriously just so they can have their time wasted for 11 hours with some sperg holding prio because he can't afford losing or have a guy say you have to draw or he will hand the win to the smelliest guy at the table simply because he doesn't want to lose and that guy is very smelly and you all would hate to see him win.
Man children still are adults, so you are right on technicality
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>>96445256
anything with MLD
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>>96445256
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>>96445277
>>96445270
How would that atraxa deck hold up?
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>>96445256
Chaos with no wincon
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96445319
Sounds like Norin the Wary is the way to go on that front.
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>>96445256
urza
braids
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>>96445139
>>96445159
Thanks, I've got like 50 d6 from Warhammer so should be alright. Hopefully the deck is fun to play against
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>>96445265
>proxy every card in their decks because they have such little disposable income they can't afford to take their "competitive" hobby seriously
The fact you think people need to pay actual money for cards is ludicrous. You're just actually a company shill. I bet you believe some idiotic nebulous thing about real cards making it more "real", as though cEDH players care about much more than what's written on the card. And with cards prices, proxies are the smart choice. What? Are you about start crying about proxies being a sign of lack of self-control? I think it shows greater lack of self-control to buy cards, either directly or indirectly, from a company that hates and disrespects you.
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>>96445550
>no one should play magic
>BUT IM NEVER GONNA STOP DESPITE HATING MAGIC
no one asked you and no one would ever ask you you miserable little gnat
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>>96445567
>>no one should play magic
>>BUT IM NEVER GONNA STOP DESPITE HATING MAGIC
When did I say this? When did I imply this? I think you might need you meds anon, no where in my message did I say, imply, or mean to imply this. Can you tell me why you got such a meaning from my message? I'm actually curious to hear it.
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What are some good "sneaky stax" cards for Azorius deck? I want to make a deck that totally fucks with everyone else's game plan with things like TPB messing with any potential for them to formulate long term plans without necessarily locking them out of the game (or making them think they're locked out).
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>>96445859
Zur's Weirding quickly turns everyone against each other
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>>96444592
god I love the new gonti gifting everyone's cards to other players
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>>96444853
to keep the sheeple happy who cry about scalpers
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>>96444751
that's not even $20 a card, what you buying bulk for?
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>>96445859
no real way to be sneaky with stax, especially if you want to fuck your opponents up. there is confounding conundrum that can actually help the landfall player so it's not all downside
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Basically stuff like this >>96445874 or Telepathy is what I want. Shit that will actually turn players against each other and mess with their plans without necessarily feeling like they're being locked out of the game.
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>>96444461
>Have you ever made someone rage quit or just throw a fit at the table?
No, people are usually pretty calm when they try to tell me that winter orb isn't an auto include.
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>>96444506
I have the secret.
You have to make the table play decks you built and tuned for quality of play rather than power.
Edh is best treated like a board game.
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>>96444518
Was there a time stella and crypt were both legal?
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>>96444636
Ttsim is even easier and cheaper
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>>96444751
Speaking from experience, if any part of you is justifying paying more money than you normally would because "the cards will hold value" just know they wont.
I know you are thinking that because otherwise you would be in budget and would just pull the trigger.
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>>96445162
The only true bracket 1 pods I see are 40 year old guys that like playing battlecruiser with bad old cards.
I must admit, I have had a good time in those pods.
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>>96445874
>>96446136
How does priority normal pass in the case of "any player may pay the price" effects? Do you go around in table order and no one can respond after the last guy decides or is it just open season for ten seconds of awkward silence before you decide you get to keep your card?
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>>96445265
Cedh is for faggy tryhard antifa redditors and troons
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>>96446230
The only one I see build legit bracket 1 decks simply has no idea how the game works even after years of playing. So then you get picrel in a mono-G deck cause he misunderstood forestwalk. Or he thinks lands have a colour. Or he learns that you can activate abilities at any time for the fifth time since I met him.
He says he likes deckbuilding, but it looks more like colour matching when you play against him. For example he played a dragon-engine deck, drew Niko defies destiny and asks "what a foretold cards?"
Everyone else builds at least on precon level.
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>love mtg
>live in the middle of nowhere
>move to the city
>finally there is a place where i can play mtg
>go there
>see more trannies there than in all my life
>play mtg and enjoy it

they are still offputting and gross
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>>96446230
>>96446259
Wow, looks like you're both wrong. I'm under 40 AND know how the game works, still made a bracket 1 deck, before either as about list: https://manabox.app/decks/adEGR349S9Gj7uqlNImKWw
The deck is the Lesbos kissing everything, I made the deck to be a side-grade to a typical Xenagos deck.
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>>96446281
I feel like this and sometimes I don't show up so I don't have to deal with it.
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>>96446281
Most people you meet in a card shop are off-putting and gross regardless of what they call themselves
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>>96446281
If you're still enjoying the game, do the trannies really matter? Why do you care? Do they follow you home? I really don't understand why alot of people in this thread let trannies live rent free in their heads, when they generally, genuinely not really effected by them at all.

>inb4 TRANNY
Naw, just an anon trying to understand.
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>>96446329
>genuinely not really effected by them at all
Having to call a man in a dress "she", in order to participate affects me. I genuinely feel like I'm lying and that does shit to you over time.
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>>96446314
>>96446329
Gee, I wonder who could be behind THESE posts...
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>TQ
Made a friend lose half his deck and scoop with my rat deck a few months back and he won't stop talking about it
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>>96446281
I can't relax around those dudes. I'm not buying into their delusions or treating them the same way I would treat an actual woman. I play games to relax, not to step on eggshells around some mentally ill egofreak.
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>Avatar sucks
>Spider Man sucks
>EoE sucks
>Aetherdrift sucks
>Assassin's Creed sucks

More than half the sets released in the last year suck. The fuck is the point in releasing 20 of them a year if the majority are just going to fucking suck?
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>>96446407
Aetherdrifts only redeeming factor was they mixed amonkhet stuff in. I got the zombie precon and it thankfully has 0 wacky racers bullshit or vehicles.
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>>96446416
This almond cat is cool, even if some of the cards are buttugly.
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>>96446281
Yeah, it’s worse when you realize they are just so tryhard/cheating

Oh and I posted this before

>fat balding tranny
>has grotesque tits that look like golfballs hanging from condoms stapled to his chest
>wears tight shirts
>smells
>the trannies will slander/protest/ddos their shit if they do it

>other store employs nothing but trannies
>some dude with a beard wearing makeup and a dress trying to act feminine
>have to pretend this clownshow is normal because I just want my singles

I’m so sick of them it’s unreal
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>>96446241
Yes a grown man definitely typed this post
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>>96446423
>even if some of the cards are buttugly.
Thats a problem will all modern MTG, unfortunately. I do like that they gave some old zombies new egyptian themed art. Tickles my autism.
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>>96446281
happened something similar when i moved in, my lgs where all fatsos
you have to use your charisma to shape them for better, become a sigma leader, just make small convos like
>i came here after the gym, do you guys work out
>oh you drink soda? enjoy i dropped it because it was not good for me
>want to hit a bar, maybe today will be a busy day?
getting them to do non card things is the most important, being in contact with regular people will force to improve
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>>96446407
>avatar and Spiderman
Neither fully revealed so we can discount that.
>EOE sucks
EOE was fun draft and has a lot of real stellar cards, good set.
>aetherdrift sucked
Yes.
>AC sucked
Without a doubt some of the best cards released in the last few years. Great art good mechanics awesome cards. Ruined by behind the scenes stuff and shitty sealed.
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>>96446487
>anon becomes king of the rats
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>>96446493
This anon is mostly correct.
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>>96446136
weirding is way more likely to turn people against YOU than each other in my experience since, you know, you control the problem
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>>96446238
the first, yeah. always APNAP and once it starts resolving there can be no responses
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>>96446493
AC was so undersung. It had some bangers.
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I'm SO fucking sick of almost every set having a card that just cheats shit in to play.
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>>96446637
Web of Life and Destiny
Enchantment
Convoke
At the beginning of combat on your turn, look at the top five cards of your library. You may put a creature card from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
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>>96446637
Goes straight into my Goreclaw "cheat creatures into play" deck!
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>>96446628
AC was pretty ass overall and it's very evident that Spiderman has a similar design philosophy, except powered down for standard and filled with bloat/chaff for draft.
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>>96446700
What? This is such a nonsense post. How is that evident? How was AC bad?
>same design philosophy except.. powered down!
So not the same philosophy at all or it'd give a similar outcome.

People really just type shit in this thread lmao
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>>96446700
Naw, you're crazy AC had some real bangers that I'm still finding and adding to deck. I'm fully convinced it's one of the most overlooked sets of recent date.
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>>96446637
honestly at this point we should make a bingo of braindead gamedesign for every set to determine if it's slop
>y doublers
>x triggers an additional time
>do thing draw card legend
>freecasting/cheating in to play
>new parasitic mechanic almost identical to an old one
>new one-off creature type never to be supported again
>established character wearing plane thematic apparel for no reason
>thing you don't like as free space
what else am I forgetting?
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>>96446475
I wonder when we'll see the other two and if scoroion will cone back somehow
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>>96446700
>>96446711
Fun fact, WotC acknowledged that spiderman was originally a small non-standard set like asscreed but they changed the set mid-way through development to be a draftable standard set
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>>96446724
>Enchantment that exiles target xyz until it leaves the battlefield
It feels like WotC really tries to reinvent the wheel for every single set with this.
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>>96446732
Fun fact:
Youre retarded because AC wasn't even designed that way. It was made, then last minute it became a small set. So no they were very much so not designed with the same mindset. Literally the exact opposite it would seem.
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>>96446711
AC should have been Commander decks
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Game 1 - Hope Estheim vs Sol’kanar vs Aeve, Zholoduk
>Im on voltron Hope deck
>its dogshit
>ooze player is using slime against humanity
>eldrazi guy has eldrazi
>sol’kanar is on boomer grixis game changers and drops a necropotence
>either suicidal or cant mill anyone out
>still mill everyone about 20 cards which makes the ooze player make huge ass oozes which beat the fuck out of the eldrazi player
>end up chain wrathing along with the grixis player to beat down the ooze player
>ooze player recovers over and over with huge slimes into draw 15 (based on power) cards.
>ooze gets himself so low that I nuke him with the new mill equal to life total to kill him
>same turn voltron up a random dfc witch that kills an arti/enchant on etb to murder the eldrazi player
>left with 1v1 with grixis player who locked himself under necro
>take W with a drodskol reaver and enchantment that gives +1/+1 counters for how much life you gain

Game 2 - Kefka, Mr Beast, Zimone, Mondrak
>on meme epstein kefka deck
>The Beast player goes asbolutely ham stealing Zimone’s creatures each turn, saccing them and drawing a ton of cards
>meanwhile I play bitterblossom and propaganda and chip away
>mondrak is mana screwed for a while
>simic guy does weird counters stuff and generally just counterspells stuff.
>establish logbook tron
>rip a bribery, aim it at the beast guy and steal the red primordial, steal a creature from everyone, get everyone down to around 25 and sac them all to plumb the forbidden with the beast’s grim haruspex, draw about 7
>white is finally catching back up and shitting out tokens, he murders simic guy
>beast guy plays some shit version of insurrection and gets/sacs a bunch od creatures drawing a zillion cards
>pass back to me, use logbook tron to search up Emet-Selch who lets you cast instants/sorc from gy when opp loses life also cast strix liliana. Swing bitterblossom tokens out, recast plumb saccing board for like 13 lilly triggers, killing everyone
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>>96446749
So you're saying both sets are bloated designs caused by indecisive leadership? That tracks.
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>>96446628
Is this the only card that removes shroud?
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>>96446729
IIRC all the old gods besides hazoret are completely dead. I guess you could have lazotep versions of the bolas gods, but they will probably just give us more new ones.
It feels like they didn't really know what to do on a proper return to amonkhet, so they just shoved the rough draft into aetherdrift.
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>>96446792
No im not saying that at all nor is that shown anywhere anon.
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>>96446822
If you're saying the set was originally not even going to be a booster-supported set, then yes it is similar to Spiderman in that way.
Companies being afraid to release a small, well-designed product is why we're ending up with so many 3+ hour movies. At least some of those movies make money though, while Assassin's Creed is still languishing on the shelves of my LGSes while every other UB product sold out.
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>>96446493
>Neither fully revealed so we can discount that
the revealed stuff already is obscenely underwhelming and mostly just "remember mechanic? now this time painted slightly green!", so we can discount these sets already
plus they are extremly scalped already, so fuck that shit
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>>96446859
Actually, minor correction: all of the Dr. Who decks besides Timey Wimey are also languishing on the shelves.
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>>96446859
What im saying isnt confusing there is no question about it. Stop being retarded.
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>>96446724
while picrels effect is very straighforward and relatively harmless, we now have about 11 effects like this
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>>96446882
Most of the revealed stuff from Spiderman has been from literal starter decks. And sadly the ATLA spoilers have shown ridiculously powerful cards. Not sure what reality you are in
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>>96446748
you know that other formats exist, right?
these things are a limited staple, and as far as removal goes, as fair as it could possibly get.
complaining about this is the most braindead thing ive read in a while.
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>>96446637
The most annoying part of this is convoke.
>cheat in your cheats
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>>96446637
aah the obligatory green win-more mythic

honestly, at this point, so fucking what?
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How do you win with a crescent moon deck?
I want to deck out everyone (but me)
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>>96447026
i would advice playing cards that draw you opponents lots of cards.
i would also advice playing some mill maybe?
idk this is just wild theorycrafting rn, this might literally be impossible to do in blue
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>>96447026
You include every single bit of "people draw extra cards" stuff, obviously. Bring graveyard hate. These will help too
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>>96446238
It's a trigger, thus passes priority around the table.
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>>96446407
EOE was a great set with a lot of fantastic art and cool cards. It was a meh draft format however.

This is my favorite card to play with right now in multiple formats. I love it so much
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>>96446911
>ATLA have shown ridiculously powerful cards
>meanwhile Spoderman gets the Soul Stone
You are drunk
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>>96447106
plus creature stock up in green that leaves behind an artifact and this annoying shithead (it's going to be very good in a bunch of formats)
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>>96447106
>functional swat reprint
>not very powerful
lmao
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>>96447106
>most of the stuff from Spiderman has been starter deck stuff
>AND WHAT ABOUT THE FEW CARDS THAT ARENT!?!?
what about them? The point is 1. We dont have enough information to make any massive judgments. 2. Whats been revealed of avatar so far is definitely decently strong 3. What we've seen of Spiderman so far is mostly not.
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>>96447106
>2 or 3 good cards among a gigantic pile of mediocrity
Yeah cool argument
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Avatar cards spoiled so far are not good at all. It's all magical christmasland bullshit that is only good in casual edh but horrible in any competitive environment
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>>96445072
I know a guy that that basically runs board wipe tribal, i think he has around 13
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>>96447146
Not really. I think you learned that word from this thread without learning how its properly used
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>>96447146
Perhaps but at least it feels vaguely "Magic-esque". I don't see myself buying much Avatar but I don't see myself buying ANY Spiderman.
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>>96447136
>Strong 3
out of what? Apples?

>>96447145
This is exactly my point, my nig.
ATLA having shown "ridiculously powerful cards" is the same kind of useless exaggeration
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>>96447160
No, I'm a spikey player and the cards all seem super finnicky and hard to make work. Airbending is bad blink, firebending is narrow, etc. You need to have firebending for X with exactly the right payoffs at the right time and be able to profitably attack

Aang seems like he would be a good commander in a deck with a lot of bending but only because he draws a million cards but he wouldn't transform very often.

I'd say Toph is an exception. Her effect seems both strong and unique.
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>>96446934
>literally worse Cradle
What's the point?
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Is this the strongest precon ever printed?
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>>96447283
>literally a worse version of one of the most busted lands ever
Wow
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>>96447283
>worse cradle that you need to win even more with to win more
Think, anon
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>>96447295
It's quite good, but off the top of my head, Bello, Edgar, Hakbal, and Mothman are better.
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>>96447295
This shit is stinking ass, as we're the other hyped up Prehammers, and nothing really holds a candle to the current Edge of Eternities precons, both are just ridiculous out of the box with a huge amount of strong reprints. Anything stronger that come to mind?
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>>96447192
>4 mana 3/3 with no keywords
>no card draw
>no wincon
>earthbend only once per turn cycle

she's shit. only reason people want to build her is her unique artifact=lands thingy.
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>>96447335
>current Edge of Eternities precons,
The Jund one sure, that's a really powerful deck. The Jeskai one seems relatively average in power level though.
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>>96447188
>strong 3
Esl moment.
>thats my point
Hes taking about spiderman
>>96447192
I wont be taking you seriously anon
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>>96447339
Yeah she’s interesting because of her unique and powerful effect, you are right lol
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>>96447335
>>96447347
Neither of the EOE precons are that impressive. Id put them on the same level as the tyranid one
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>>96447350
>powerful
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>>96447355
Making an artifact immune to removal and doubling up on any ETB/LTBs it has is indeed powerful.
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>>96447355
There’s like a billion combos you can do with this. Making things into lands is an inherently powerful effect. Even the simplest stuff like making each land a basic forest or swamp in addition to its other types would be powerful with Toph’s ability. So yeah ignore the stuff about creature and earthbending or whatever, you make infinite mana and kill your opponent(s) immediately after playing Toph
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>>96447355
>Not only your lands, but also your artifacts you build your deck around trigger landfall stupidity
yeah, you are fucking stupid
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>Anons get upset that it seemed like every commander was a draw engine

>Now anons are upset that some of the commanders in ATLA aren't draw engines
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>>96447374
>infinite mana
>cards explicity says your artifacts dont tap for mana

>>96447385
>muh landfall commander when Tannuk, Omnath and Tatyova exist

I CANT
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>>96447315
people saying bello is toptier, what makes him so special? whats the secret tech?
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Tomorrow I'm having my first commander game.
What am i in for?
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>>96447026
psychosis crawler
stasis locks
mill
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>>96447403
no removal in lower brackets due to being unfun
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>>96447401
Mana Vault + Candelabra of Tawnos + Toph = infinite mana and there’s a bunch more combos

They don’t gain the ability to tap for mana from Toph’s ability but they would still become swamps that tap for black with Urborg in play
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>>96447413
>my new commander goes infinite with [insert broken card which goes infinite with a ham sandwich]
noooooo way
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I saw a tiktok about how it's weird that nobody runs this card and it's kinda true.
Even if it costs 3 it's still pretty good.
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>>96447423
cards like these always let you down when you need them the most. better to go for the reliable but boring option.
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>>96447422
Moving the goalposts just take the L and move on.

Toph goes infinite or combos off with a lot of cards that’s just the most obvious combination
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>>96447392
>every poster on here is a single person
you are me
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>>96447432
Idk man it exiles tho, there's so many things you don't really wanna destroy nowadays
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>>96447433
you know that half the playable cEDH decks are simply playable because they enable/support thoracle? does this make the commanders strong in your opinion?
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>>96447403
>extremely aggressive
>can overextend into creature-based board wipes, only need to replay the commander and you're entirely back in action
>draws a fuckton of cards
Bello's only weakness in precon-level metas is a lack of defense, but it can often just kill opponents before they can set up their battlecruiser strategies.
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>>96447401
Toph is better than all 3 of those for landfall
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>>96446748
oh yeah, add
>old effect but with set mechanic
to the list. that would also include yours
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>>96447442
>Anon doesn't understand per capita
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>>96447447
This isnt true though anon lol.
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>>96447447
Yes, objectively so. I’m said I’m a spikey player and being better at winning the game is what makes a card strong.

The fact that competitive commander is so unfun is one of the reasons the format is garbage, but that’s what a strong card is by definition
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>>96446909
could make a whole deck outta these!
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>>96446934
This. it's all KOS or lose anyway at this point so no point crying over another one that they can't even fit in the deck.
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If you were to start playing right now, what are staple cards you would buy right away?
Besides obvious stuff like uncommon mana rocks of course.
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>>96447456
Don't feed the shitbaiter, but Toph not having blue is putting big breaks on her as a commander design - not that I think blue would fit her personality whatsoever.
I still think in Naya there is enough bullshit going in to make her a monster in casual, possibly even cEDH
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>>96447456
Toph landfall seems like one of those decks that folds to commander removal
What are a bunch of cheap artifacts going to do if Toph gets Yue'd? What will your landfall pieces do when your artifacts aren't lands?
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Why is reds looting just an objectively worse version of blue looting?
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>>96447483
Fetches + shocks are the best investment. Go into any deck, and improve your consistency by a lot.
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>>96447483
DESU if you're an absolute new player, you'd probably be best off buying like 2 precons and using that as your starting point. There's very few recent precons that are straight up unplayable shit.
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>>96447404
randos? bickering (like an old sexless couple) most likely disguised as politics
frens? sex
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>>96447483
Sol Ring
Swords to Plowshares & Path to Exile
Chaos Warp
Deadly Rollick
Deflecting Swat
Jeska's Will
Basalt Monolith
Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath
Gaea's Cradle
Chains of Mephistopheles
All of these are autoincludes in their respective colors. Prioritize getting these ASAP
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You ever just want to punch someone in the mouth playing this game?

>previous game I cast space time anomaly on turn 4
>'I mana drain it'
>'Do you want to even hear who I'm targeting?'
>'no'

today
>cast squirrel nest turn 3
>mana drains it because he wants mana to ramp
>force of vigor his rhystic and sol ring
>'lol ok dude, clearly you are spiteful..'
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>>96447513
>Chains of Mephistopheles

why
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>>96447535
It goes in every black deck
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>>96446637
uuuuhm
this is slow
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Artifacts have always been the most degenerate card type. The more you’ve played formats like Legacy or Vintage the more you know how easily they break the game

Colorless artifacts were a mistake
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>>96447530
if i were playing control i would honestly assume you were gonna target me with anomaly and probably do the same
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>>96447530
Im afraid both of these are valid counters on his part and you did indeed spite play.
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Is there a better feeling than seing a maelstorm wonderer face when you cast Roiling Vortex?
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>>96447542
Anon there wasnt a colored artifact for the first 15 years of this game. Objectively speaking, colored artifacts are a design mistake.
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>>96447530
why the fuck would you cast squirrel nest before force of vigoring their rhystic and sol ring?
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>>96447558
No colorless artifacts were the mistake, there’s a reason broken combos use old artifacts all the time, that affinity for artifacts was busted, etc
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This is pretty good ngl
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>>96447485
>folds to commander removal
She is in Selesnya. If you always have your removal, she always has her protection piece. And even if removal gets through, she is Green Lands and will simply out ramp any meaningful interaction you can throw at here.
She seems the kind of commander that even if you spent 14 mana on her, it will still be worth it, much Like picrel
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>>96447086
Yeah, I think Munitions has potential.
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>>96447538
you want a fast creature cheater instead?
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>>96447568
Then you simply dont like magic lol I wont be discussing this with you. Colored artifacts relegates broken cards to certain colors against the intention of the permanent type.
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>>96447530
I have a friend with a Maha deck and like 30 removal cards. She does literally nothing all game besides remove people's creatures just for the sake of doing so. I fucking H A T E playing with her
>play a 2/2 with haste, attack someone else
>she kills it
>"I'm not even attacking you"
>"I don't care, it's a threat"
??????????????????????????
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>>96447086
This nigga goes insane with Abdel. Love it in my shattergang deck too.
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>>96447542
this anon gets it. black lotus should have been green
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>>96447573
This is.... really good?
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>>96447575
Muldrotha is full of good cards that can win independent of the commander. Muldritha reads: get value immediately
Toph landfall is full of garbage that doesn't function on its own. Toph reads: make your deck not suck ass while she's here
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>>96447554
not anymore since they fucking changed the rules so they don't have to cast it anymore
fuck wizards
also
>wOnderer
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>>96447563
>>96447547
>>96447546

1. My esper deck is meme tier, it's a bracket 2/3 at most. Me and 2 other players were talking about it, and I top deck it 'hell yeah, my favorite card' and cast it, with 38 life, which he cannot respond to until I select a valid target. so it's just bitchy and annoying.

2. Because he played rhystic on turn 3, so I destroyed it and that was the only other valid target. also, it's a fungus meme deck, I have a few bangers in it because I don't play green often.

That's two strikes, so now whenever I play with this guy, I have to pull out a 4
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>>96447583
NTA but Wizards actually said they created colored artifacts because being colorless was too powerful for many artifacts they wanted to print. Mana is the way cards are balanced in magic, which is why multicolor cards are allowed to be more powerful for the same mana cost. If you print a bunch of good colorless artifacts they just go in every deck and work with everything
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>>96447573
shit art so can't play, sadly
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>>96447586
>removal on a creature before damage somewhere else
The worst kind of player, making games go on forever. Make her have it and throw everything at her, hopefully the other players aren't simps and join you
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>see funny meme commander
>stay up all night building the deck
>testing is phenomenal and seems really powerful
>wake up next day
>check the commander again
>realize I have been reading his ability wrong
adios, gorex spellslinger
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do people who complain about lifegain decks just have sht commanders that cannot do face damage?
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>>96447602
Those have literally always been the rules. You were never forced to cast spells you cascaded into. Go look at the reminder text from Alara Reborn.
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>>96447598
Completely misrepresenting what lands/landfall is
>THIS deck is a synergistic masterpiece filled with super good staples
>meanwhile THAT deck literally just runs commons and he commons that is held together by duct tape
worthless
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>>96447619
t.lifegain durdler that wants the game to go forever while not being able to convert life into a wincon
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>>96447573
I think this would actually be good IF they removed the "otherwise, sacrifice this enchantment" clause.
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>>96447618
>dont realize you've read the ability wrong
>buy the cards
>visit the store to play your new deck
>the moment you misuse your commanders ability someone points out your mistake
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>>96447604
No its not a meme deck im sorry your friend didnt just let you win
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>>96447618
>>96447646
>doesn't work anymore when she is exiled
Stupid ass rules change, i will play her as she reads anyways
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>>96447444
Black is getting plenty of exile instead of destroy effects nowadays. WOTC went hard on giving out indestructible like crazy, now in typical fashion they're over correcting in the other direction by handing out exiles, which means we're going to get more and more cheap phasing out effects. We're 3-4 years out from a 2 mana Teferi's protection.
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>>96447620
oh nevermind apparently I dimension hopped from one where I distinctly remember there being an article where it happened and I was mad that roiling vortex no longer punished freecast bullshit and I sold 'em to some spike later
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>>96447631
We're talking about a Toph landfall deck, which uses artifacts for landfall triggers. Artifacts landfall is just garbage like eggs, myr battlesphere, or treasure spam. Without Toph around, those cards are a waste of space, and toph herself has no direct value, she just allows one half of your deck to function with the other half at all. You're better off playing a real landfall commander, like omn4th, and only using powerful landfall cards while also having a value engine in the command zone.
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>>96447669
It still does punish casting things for free, but a player could always choose not to cast a spell they cascade into. It's still very punishing against cascade decks.
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>>96445550
Seethe more poorfag
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>>96447688
The first anon is crying because he can't FORCE the punishment on his opponents, so it's bad now because they'll just take the damage on the spells that help them win, while not cascade-casting anything the doesn't heavily advance their gameplan
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>>96447547
His fault for wasting his interaction on stupid shit, then getting blown out by the real spell that mattered. Blindy firing off your counters because you are bored is just bad play.
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Have to wait four fucking months for another Magic set. Christ.
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>>96447740
yeeah, they really should bump up the amount of releases a year
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>>96444894
Play creatures, smack the table, exile cards til you get what you want
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>>96447602
>>96447620
>>96447669
You might be thinking of the rules change for suspend, which DID force you to cast the card originally.
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>>96447606
No they didnt lol
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Congrats toph is now immortal
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>>96447646
>realize in the middle of the game my commander doesn't work the way I thought it did
>this is my third game with it, but first where this situation came up to make me realize my mistake
>just play through the game and end up winning
>immediately take it apart so my friends never see it again and realize anything was amiss
it's a reasonably obscure commander and my group usually only builds commanders that are either new or cracked. this is neither so I'm pretty sure they'll never know about this specific instance of my idiocy.
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>>96447825
why would this make toph immortal
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>>96447859
Reading the cards explains the interactions.
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>>96447838
>cheat and cover it up
Weird thing to boast
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>>96445859
>Cursed Totem
>Torpor Orb
>Dampening Sphere
>Grafdigger's Cage
>Weathered Runestone
These cards buttfuck so many commanders and deck strategies it's not even funny.
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>>96447859
>>96447881
>Toph becomes artifact
>Toph becomes a land
>Toph earthbends herself, when she dies, she comes back
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>>96447283
They can't reprint Cradle so they make weaker variations to get around the reserved list policy.
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>>96447859
Xe thinks not dying from Anguished Unmaking makes her "immortal" or some other no-games bafflegarble.
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>>96447859
>>96447913
there's still a period of time within the loop where she's vulnerable.
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>>96447922
the nu-old border cards look so trash and the foils make my eyes bleed.
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>>96447922
Are you attempting to communicate in english?
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>>96447922
>toph becomes earthbended
>whenever she is exiled or dies she comes back to the game
Yeah i do because thats what it does lol. Only bouncing or darksteel will "remove" her.
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Why is this thread so fast?
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>>96447931
Yeah, I think anon is using the term immortal loosely
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>>96447956
Wow that's awesome so with the earthbend trigger on the stack..
>um actually
Just put the elephant token on the board wagie
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>>96447961
we are at Speed 4. Whats your ability?
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>>96447931
>>96447968
Yeah no shit nothing in magic is 100% secure not even split second lines are.
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>nontoken
This is probably generally worse than the similar 3mv draw engines
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>>96448011
Its pretty much on par. The alternative is morbid opportunist, who is once a turn.
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>>96448011
nontoken is the rule, including tokens is the exception
It's just another entry to the Midnight Reapers, that can more easily do combat damage, and it's pretty decent
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>>96448032
Morbid Opportunist also triggers from any creature, not just your own.
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>>96448011
there are better ones if you don't mind the extra black pips
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>>96447973
no, anon, i mean you can't reenable her resurrection flag until the end of the turn. depending on when she's returned, people might have an entire goddamn turn to get rid of her.
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>>96447972
Calling in lorefags
If stuff like stats and size of a creature are plane dependant, are concepts like space and time too?
Would that explain why a once per turn incremental mechanic capping at 4 is considered "Speed" in Aethershit?
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>>96448011
Its just better midnight reaper, except not a zombie.
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>>96448011
The spiderman set really feels like they just had a lot of unused playtest effects sitting around, then slapped a random UB art on top of them.
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Any of ya Grenzo users kind enough to have deck to share that I can netdeck?
If I don't like it I wont
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>>96448138
They wanted to do a MOM:Aftermath mini set out of Spiderman, but shat their pants to do a blunder like that again.
So instead they opted to fill out the blanks with the most generic shit MtG has to offer
Honestly, relying on filler is just so much worse than doing a mini set
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>>96448114
Yes
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>>96448154
i love mine
and I gatekeep
sorry sweaty
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>>96447792
oh yeah that was it. thanks for restoring my sanity
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If someone used strip mine, after they sac it, it's in graveyard and I can exile it from their graveyard at instant speed while it's ability is on the stack, correct? I know this doesn't stop the ability, I'm just asking about the prio since playing lands doesn't give prio if they can play it from the graveyard again that turn
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>>96448240
Yes, as sacing it is part of the cost.
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>>96448154
I haven't built him but I know there's a bunch of artifacts that put a card from your graveyard to the bottom of your library. Run all of them
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>>96448240
yes
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>>96448011
Including tokens for this effect would just be obscene.
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>>96448011
Kind of ass, but I like that they gave Flash Flash.
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>>96448311
Both Flashes have Flash.
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>>96447642
every midrange deck should have at least one way to get through 100+ life, and its not that hard its literally the reason commander damage is a rule
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>>96448341
Yeah, it's dumb but makes me smile. I just wish Agent Venom was orzhov or they were combined into an MDFC.
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>>96447026
I prefer to deck out myself.
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>>96447026
Start windmill slamming eldrazi while you sit behind a dozen counter spells.
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>>96448011
True. But now you can have Midnight Reaper in the command zone which is new for that at least.
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>>96448438
>bolas citadel but command zone
>midnight reaper but command zone
Have WOTC just ran out of ideas?
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>>96448011
Shadow the Hedgehog support.
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>>96448452
Final Fantasy gave us Blood Artist in the command zone, so maybe? Or they could be trying to satisfy people who were asking for a way to make nonlegendary creature commanders by making legendary versions of some of them. Without actually addressing the question.
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>>96448154
>>96448267
I build him, first with all the bottom deck artifacts. They are a trap.
Only use the creature ones and picrel
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>>96448452
Their currenr DEI RnD team of incompetents definitely has.
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>>96448011
>>96448341
This set is so ass.
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>>96448496
>>96448154
Don't forget stuff like this in case you draw a creature you wanna cheat out
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>>96447838
>friend plays picrel for the first time
>he draws and puts a counter on a creature for each treasure cracked
>we let it fly and only realised something was fishy when he drew his 30th card in a turn after making a deal
it was so obvious and still is the biggest collective brainfart from our playgroup yet
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>>96448512
you WILL flip it into the yard with a grenzo activation
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>>96448496
>>96448512
Do you go all in on minions to prevent unlucky slot machine rolls
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They should reprint all the "Sword of X and X" cards until they're worthless.
An entire playstyle is locked behind them.
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>>96448566
Yes. Even with all the bottom deck manipulators out, I still found myself relying on Grenzos flips each game, with shit results because of low creature count
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>>96448625
And that playstyle is…?
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Are there any cards that let me turn excess cards in my hand into mana, sorta like picrel but for anything?
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>>96448625
They aren't even that expensive.
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>>96448653
>can't I just build carddraw.deck and ramp in the process too by just pitching cards however?
no
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>>96448654
A chunk of them are still $30+. Only a handful are less than $15
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>>96448645
I thunk he thonks you cant voltron without them all
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>>96448684
>equip sword
>auras fall off
Baka desu senpai
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>>96448154
https://archidekt.com/decks/13351377/gobbos
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>>96448341
This seems like a combo piece, or it'll be another Godo where it's irrelevant, then one card gets printed in the future and it becomes a powerhouse.
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How do we feel about this bros?
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>>96448732
>gobbos
From that alone I can tell you're a fag, then I saw archidekt, and then the list. Have you taken your HIV test yet?
>>96448800
Depends on what the arena version is.
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>>96448800
mogged
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>>96448820
I may fuck men but at least Im not rude
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>>96448800
I feel like the higher percentage of new cards that are printed in UB the less I can engage with this game.
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>>96448800
Kind of cool. Could be a decent way to negate combat damage in the right deck while also buffing the enchanted thing to take out players.
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>>96448800
One of those cards that's probably fine in most Voltron decks but is never going to be optimal.
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>>96447355
>goes infinite with Ugin's Nexus on her own
lmao gay dragons always win
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>>96447392
God I fucking love Ancient Gears. I wish Magic had some kind of equivalent that you could build a deck full of.
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>>96449049
Nope, the nexus comes back and stops you from having the extra turn.
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Is there another hobby where people take pride in being too poor to compete at the various levels of it like proxyfags?
>I don't need a good binder for my scrap booking, infact, it's better that I don't pay for a good heavy duty book and acid free paper. I'm not a skill and this old as fuck paper I got from the dump is actually superior.
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>>96449109
40k with 3D print and Chinese proxy models
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>>96449109
It's always so funny when the people that have dumped thousands of dollars into this game get salty about less fortunate people enjoying their """""hobby"""""
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>>96448800
4 mana XD
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>>96449152
>he says while being salty someone said that he is poor.
You don't need a 5k dollar deck to enjoy the game, but you just can't help yourself but to proxy expensive cards.
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>>96449095
This does happen. Toph actually has some fun tech you can do, but as with all commander decks: You have to be smarter than the cardboard on the table to have fun with it.

Here's a hint: If Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is not a green card, then what is Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth?

You may also run Prismatic Omen, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Chromatic Lantern, etc, etc, etc.
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>>96449190
Jokes on you I openly insult people that proxy tryhard sweaty cards, but I also don't care about people proxying all the <$5 staples
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>>96448800
shit art so can't play, sadly
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>>96449195
Nothing of the stuff you yapped about has anything to do with Ugins Nexus stopping the apparent extra turn you would get with Toph
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>>96449224
Except the part where I agreed with you you absolute fucking retard.

Holy fucking shit just eat your fucking cards jesus fucking christ.
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>>96449256
Maybe learn to express yourself clearly in english
>This does happen
Only thing that happens is your bitch tits flying all over the place
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Where do people even get proxies anyways?
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>>96449291
Most people here when they say proxies, they actually mean counterfeits that they buy from china.
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>>96449291
mpc if you just want big bulk orders that dont pass outside of a sleeve
usea if you want actual counterfeit cards that you cant tell are fake without a loupe
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If someone yaps or tries to politic, I target them relentlessly until they die. I have self sabotaged in cEDH tournaments by killing the yapping politicker and kingmaking my other opponents, just to make the yapping politicker shut the fuck up. Simple as.
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>>96449351
You're a sperg but it's cute
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>>96449351
bet it worked too
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>>96448800
a fine addition to my indestructible boros tribe
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>>96449406
I lost the battle but won the war.
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>>96449195
OP already posted the best tech for Toph.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/ZsmwWi_5REOaCUL6FlvvkA

I was told this deck is high powered?

Turn 12 I had cast terminal velocity and devastating onslaught, with doubling cube, made 6 megatron blightsteels
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>Turn 12
stopped reading there
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>>96446724
"except it isn't legendary"
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>>96449456
>best tech for toph is world-consuming firebending
first firebender aang, then stupid sexy firelord, then firebender toph. I'm beginning to sense a form of bias.
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>>96449490
>turn 12
lol
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Do "people" really play with 1000 dollars worth of cardboard
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>>96448830
At least you're a top so I can half respect you.
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>>96449529
I guess? haven't checked the prices but most have gone up a lot in price from the couple bucks I paid back in the day yeah
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>>96449529
My main and favorite deck is worth like 1,3k?
That's it though.
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>>96449517
It’s turn 5 and I’m at 19, everyone is at 40, guess I need to leave
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Wanna see a card that's only gonna be in 10 decks?
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>>96449529
Yeah, don't you?
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>>96449562
why aren't there any towns
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>>96449529
My most expensive deck is worth $1500 but I built it with cards I collected over the years that didn't cost close to what they do now.
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>>96449562
You must be joking. This is going to slot into many, many decks where swinging matters because it will very commonly be Rogue's Passage for 2
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>>96449291
I print my own on some cardstock that is more or less the same. Picture quality is good enough it all works. Get 4 per page
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>>96449529
>do people really thousands of dollars worth of carbohydrates, protein, fats and vitamins each year?
>do people really spend thousands of dollars to get a dopamine kick out of mind tricks made up of lights and pixels?
everything sounds stupid when broken down superficially
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>>96449607
>food analogy
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>>96449529
yes
I love my $3000 deck
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>>96449585
Menace isn't close to as good as unblockable, especially in EDH
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>>96449576
Why would there be? New York City is a single, gigantic metropolis.
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>>96449529
Yes. I traded/bought my cards I am going to play with them. I don't care if it's a dual land, or a hundreds of dollars high demand reserved list card.
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>>96449562
Moderate combat evasiveness and some mana filtering on the same land? I don't know man, it's not really that bad.
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enough of the slop
ENOUGH
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>>96449681
ukkimabros... is it finally /our time/
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>>96449529
Do "people" really have trouble wrapping their heads around people take the hobby seriously?
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>>96449656
Lots of people aren't going to commit to blocking with multiple combo pieces and risk one of them getting smoked. And because you're playing with three people, its likely one of them has a bad enough board state that you can punish with a Menace blocker. And that's not even getting into layering "can't be blocked by more than one creature" effects like Rope or that new 1 drop enchantment from EOE
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>need my commander to connect
>but my opponent's got 20 20/20s to chump with
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>>96449562
You're right, it's going in 10 of my decks.
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>>96449717
Where's your Key To The City or Rogue's Passage?
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>>96449730
didn't draw them
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>>96449717
I mean if you let it get to that point you already kinda lost
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>>96449717
oh no, anyway
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>>96449662
You go tell someone in the Bronx theyre in the 'same town' as Queens and see how that goes
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>>96449787
They are. Cry about it NYFag.
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>>96449681
No. Effing. Way.
They did the heccin meme. Did reddit tell them to do this? This is just so freaking chungus!
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>>96449787
>tell someone they live in NYC, which is the same city as NYC
Yes, and? Who the fuck cares which "district" they live in?? This ain't the fuckin Hunger Games
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>>96449824
Tbf it was from the show and a plot point with Mysterio at one point
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>>96449576
The same reasons there aren't any rooms, ring tempts, day/night, etc.
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>>96449787
I have. They're mad about it but they don't tell me I'm wrong.
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>>96449797
They're legitimately different counties even anon.
You're retarded and can't comprehend culture or city planning.
Id rather off myself than live in the Bronx with the Yankees fucks.
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>>96449787
Who gives a shit what Poo Yorkers think?
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>>96449891
They're still all new york city im afraid
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>>96449779
Still waiting on UB Harry Potter. Please force the troons and wokes at WotC to do it, Hasbro.
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>>96448800
Auto include in my Xenk voltron, pretty shit otherwise.
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>>96449787
Urbanite bugs are all living in the exact same city with the exact same shit in it except maybe one or two old ass buildings that were built 100+ years ago back when there was still a semblance of regional culture and which some billionaire is now chaffing to buy so they can tear it down and build another glass box in its place.
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>>96450082
Meanwhile, in Brooklyn:
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>>96449891
>Implying that a metropolis can't extend over county lines.
I wonder if people in Los Angeles are as delusional as New Yorkers are?
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>>96450082
>close ups of phalluses
to a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
maybe zoom out a bit and leave downtown, and stop drooling over dick shapes
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>Dragonshields aren't what they used to
>Katanas just dont have the variety
at this point, should i just try and clean my good old, but sticky Dragonshields? how would i even do that?
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>>96447573
This unironically reminded me to pay my rent
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>>96448800
Why is he giant?
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>>96449681
Neat card.
I'm not offended by a "meme" so mainstream it has been in a video game that sold over 10 million copies. It is relevant to the actual card name and effect unlike le spongebob shit.
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>>96450160
The OC gets pretty irritated when you imply they're part of LA.
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>>96450276
Visual metaphor for the power he has and showcasing the responsibility (IE the city) too.
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>>96450286
I find it baffling how much people are losing their shit about this card. It was the most obvious thing to happen with this set outside of "Spider-Man exists as a card". Is it a bit cringe? Sure, but it's basically one of those memes that's been co-opted into the grander sort of 'mythos' of Spider-Man.
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>>96450364
We also knew it was coming since MaRo posted one of those "things that will appear in the set" lists and one was "A Spider-Man meme" and fucking everyone knew it was this.
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If were going to be boring and consistent im just going to build the polymorph deck I thought was going to be boring to play against.
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>>96450377
Yeah. Like... If you're opposed to Spider-Man as a whole in MTG, sure, whatever. But you can't be okay with Spider-Man and be upset they put a Spider-Man meme in. Memes are part of IPs these days, and they're often part of what people would expect in something like UB. It's cynical and whatever, but that's how it is.
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Had a funny talk during my last game

>I’m going to combat, swing hasted khaalia
before you go to combat -
>I told you I went to combat
you have to pass priority
>i did, I told you
then I cast this during your main
>its my combat, I put down avacyn and draw a card when a creature enters
>holding priority, I cast tainted strike on avacyn
>has 10 power
>make a copy of dong zhou
>avacyn hits its controller for 10 infect
>YOU CANT DO THAT

Have you ever met someone like this?
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>>96450481
You are basically the biggest retard if you let that happen
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>>96450502
He's a kaalia player, they're all retards to say nothing of cucks
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>>96449681
WotC and running memes in to the ground- name a more iconic duo
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>>96450466
It's also an actual scene from a spider man cartoon
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>>96450297
I'm from LA, maybe there are some diehard boomers like that but honestly 99% of people in both OC and LA wouldn't give a shit.
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>>96450542
I still see people shitting themselves over LA taking Angels despite not being within 30 miles
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>>96450160
Some hipster snobs and Hollywood fags shit on the San Fernando Valley, but it's a tiny minority and it isn't like downtown, Silverlake or Hollywood are any less shitty than SFV is.
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>>96450553
People get more mad if you remind them that being south american doesn't make you am American.
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>>96450553
Do you hang out with boomers and baseball fags? No one I know gives a shit about that.
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>>96450481
>I’m going to combat, swing hasted khaalia
>before you go to combat -
>I told you I went to combat
You are objectively wrong if you say "go to combat" and then immediately tap something to attack without allowing responses. There's a round of priority before you move to combat, and another after combat started but before attackers are declared. Learn the rules before you complain like a retard
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>>96450481
>I’m going to combat, swing hasted khaalia
that's not how the game works, chud
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>>96450591
>>96450580
>>96450502
My bad, I forgot to un greentext ‘copy of dong zhou’

I let him keep it all because he had a 10 power infect, so I just had his own avacyn kill him.
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>>96450630
Oh it was bait all along
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>>96450577
Hes larping to bolster his positon. 4chan staple
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>>96450641
No, I had a guy get pissy after this deck won twice >96449490

So I played my meme dong zhou deck

https://moxfield.com/decks/kv8GBiqIoUqi9qsNSTuN8A
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Mono red decks are boring because it's literally the same 150 or so cards recycled over and over again.
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>>96450666
Mono red was the most annoying for me to build because its card draw fuckin blows. I hate impulse draw so much and there's not a lot of other draw sources
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>>96450666
>>96450641
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It'll be the last color of the 5 I'll build for. I have no idea what is a fun, unique red general that doesn't use all the same cards.

I do like splashing red. My boros deck for example is a pretty standard equipement aggro/voltron deck, but I include all the red damage, combat and turn doublers.
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>>96450666
To be fair
The list I posted was a shoebox deck so it was always going to be a pile of generic cards
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You WILL NOT play any Universes Beyond cards in your deck. If you do then I will throw a fit
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>>96450662
Yeah, he's probably a tard grandpa from Missouri who posts on online MLB Facebook groups. First of all, fuck baseball because it's gay and boring af. Second of all, I met more Angels fans in Japan in 2 weeks of vacation than I did my entire life living in LA, and all of those Japs probably shamelessly switched to being Dodgers fans when Ohtani moved teams- just like the people in LA would do. We're a city of shameless bandwagoners and if the Angels suddenly started being good and the Dodgers became shit, all the hard-core Dodgers fans you see everywhere now would shamelessly switch to being Angels fans.
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>>96450721
This but unironically
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>>96450722
Idk man I think I understand having an ethnic investment in a player over being attached to a club that imports players from all over the world because they have a nearby city in their name.
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>>96450721
>>96450734
Based.
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pic related is criminally underplayed. I love it in Nelly, because I get to pick what stays and just choose to keep all the Suspected and Goated shit alive.
Gets around protection too and punishes mana rock believers by letting them keep their shitty signet over their One Rings or Mystic Forges.
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>>96450794
it should say land, battle, and tribal too
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>>96450761
I don't really care or blame people, just telling you what I observe. Where as New Yorkers are gay fags loyal to their little boroughs and neighborhoods and sports ball teams, in LA we're shameless glory chasers and if the team is successful and branded as "LA", people will flock to them, and they'll abandon that team as soon as they turn bad. It happens with the Lakers and Clippers too, and USC and UCLA.
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>>96450794
Agreed, I was super hyped for it when it came out and it turned out just as good as I thought.
Same with evolutionary leap, I actually really liked origins as a set.
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Is a deck that runs IsoRev combo+ brain freeze and polymorph with the only targets being Tidespout Tyrant and Hullbreaker Horror bracket 3 and above by default or it it possible to be bracket 2? IsoRev requires several pieces to work and generally doesn't come down early.
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>>96450834
Which do you feel? Brackets are partly feel based
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>>96450834
Seems vulnerable enough to be bracket 3 but if it dominates consistently its probably better off in 4. Polymorph for one of two targets is definitely a borderline deck-building idea.
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UB when?
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>>96450819
Leap is a good one
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>>96450978
Right after my jason molina/songs:ohia/magnolia electric company UB.
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>>96450995
>introducing alcoholism as a tempted by the ring style mechanic
Oh so this is what maro meant by pushing boundaries
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>>96450802
>all other nonland lands
Retardkun, the card is explained by reading the card.
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>>96450978
Never
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>Black is the 'Creature Hate' colour
>Usually end up packing more white removal if it's also in my colour identity
>Allows me to interact with artifacts and enchantments as well
It feels like Black has three different ways to kill a creature (-x/-x, destroy, overcosted exile), but white just does it better (cheap exile), and can interact with more types. When it comes to adding removal packages, I always end up taking white cards before black ones.
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>>96451035
I think about this proxy often - saw it posted here ages ago, and thought it looked pretty swell.
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>>96451035
>>96450978
need her to have my gonk children
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>>96451058
I used it once and my group looked at me funny
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honestly at this point you have a moral imperative to proxy all WH40K cards with alternative anime slop art
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>>96451070
all anime art is slop
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>>96451084
Brown-skinned opinion.
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>>96450978
Give me a Pathologic secret lair where my boy Artemy is a Grim Haruspex reskin and we can talk about a Cyberpunk UB
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>>96451035
Man I need to build this and play pon pon shit every time I run it
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>>96451124
Why did you even bring up proxy slop for 40k when no one was discussing slop?
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>>96448732
Cool deck, but looks very inconsistent, how is it working out for you?
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>>96451144
Hole in the sun is superior

I FUCK YOU I FUCK YOU I FUCK YOU I FUCK
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UB when?
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>>96444461
TQ: Yes, happened last friday.
>friends and I decide to go to a fancy-looking new LGS that opened up nearby
>pristine looking place, all female (and reasonably cute) staff
>selling overpriced beverages comboed with greasy slop like chips and burgers
>wet wipes on every table so sensible players don't make a mess of their cardboard (mostly unused because ofc)
>think to myself "this won't last but goddamn, whoever owns the place has a nice dream"
>one of my friends leaves early and a few minutes later a sickly lanklet approaches our table
>"h-hey, I was wondering if you wanted someone to complete your pod, I want to test out a casual FF deck"
>ok, whatever
>if it's some Vivi/Sephiroth tryhard shit we'll just snipe the fucker T3 and play amongst ourselves as we planned
>motherfucker brings out a mono-green Tifa turbo with Azusa and friends and proxied moxslop
>herewegoagain.png
>by turn 4 the cunt has an unblockable 2^512 base 9/9 monstrosity
>mates and I look at each other and nope out collectively
>friend playing Giada exiles the funny boots away from Tifa
>I Pyroblast my own Keiga to steal the bitch then flash in Chandra's Ignition thanks to that one Omen
>when I ask for the Tifa the pasty fucker just looks at us in quick succession, turns crimson, then scoops all his shit and leaves the table without a word
Why are pod-hoppers so insincere about the shit they play?
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>>96448667
Yes.
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>>96451162
This thing is funnier than any of the 2000's gmod shit
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>>96451148
I didn't make that post i have no particular opinion on warhammer.
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>>96451171
this card turns jenova from trash to cash instantly
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>>96451173
True, also Parkour Civilization was one of the best movies in years.
Zoomers have some kino entertainment.
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>>96451171
Damn, son. Nice find
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>>96451067
Weird, Rebecca is one of the loli-esque characters that The Normals (tm) have accepted; you'll have them going 'the loli stays', and at the same time, celebrating her as hot and fuckable.
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>>96451049
I find that sacrifice or -X/-X is generally more useful than exile because of the frequency of hexproof/ward BS
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>>96451307
Oh yeah, forgot about sac. Yeah, sacrifice is pretty good, but I hate how it tends to give your opponent the choice of what to get rid of; if some incidental token, or mana dork is on the field, they might opt to keep their Uril or whatever.
-x/-x that can circumvent hexproof is usually in the form of sweepers, which I'd consider another category entirely; something like an exile sweeper can usually handle the same thing.
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>>96451215
She's not really a loli is the main thing. Her personality and overall behaviour clearly characterise her as an adult, just a small one.
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>>96451167
Tifa caused your whole friend group to tilt and sperg. The based queen of mono green strikes again.
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toxic deluge is the best boardwipe in the game not counting cyc rift

also farewell is overrated as fuck
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>>96451351
Of course, she's a mox, and all that's associated with that, but it was odd observing the online discourse both frequently apply this misnomer, and at the same time, accept her. It felt like a fever dream
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>>96451215
Sick of lolifags trying to co-opt her
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>>96451368
Toxic deluge is mediocre
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>>96444461
>Hunters Insight
>Instant
>Choose target creatures you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker this turn, draw that many cards.
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>>96451525
*target creature
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>>96451525
it's kravin time
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>>96451525
>UBslop faggots don't know this has great art
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>>96451556
You appear to have spilled an excess of black ink on your frame, allow me to clean it up for you.
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>>96451556
>>96451566
That artwork is gorgeous.
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>>96451556
>>96451566
That artwork is ok
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>>96451556
>>96451566
That artwork looks looks like a kindergarten student drew it.
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>>96451556
>>96451566
inside of me there are three wolves
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>>96451556
IS THAT HECKIN' TERESE? Well now I love this mediocre art solely because of her political views
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>>96451651
You are a white woman
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>>96450722
Filtered by baseball lmao. Sitting in the cheap seats getting blitzed and watching those little guys run around in a circle is a good time
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>>96448800
The boys are loving it.
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>>96451714
I LOVE COLOR PIPS, I LOVE DEVOTION! I LOVE DEVOTION!
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So is Spider Hero one creature type like Time Lord?
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>>96451748
No.
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>>96451730
This is literally because colorfixing became too easy.
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>>96451703
OK boomer
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>>96451556
>>96451566
>>96451603
>>96451592
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>Grave pact is bullshit and should be a game changer!
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>>96451556
>>96451566
Terese lost.
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>>96451759
I hope you aren't trying to imply I am a 4 or 5 color slopper. I don't run devotion outside of 2 color at the most.
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>>96451764
sorry you can't enjoy stuff anon
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My favorite commander costs $0.13
Hbu?
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>>96451814
one hundo dollary doo
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>>96451804
Stuff in this case includes watching someone else play baseball, which is pretty understandable.
Throw some plastic around if you want to get drunk in public.
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>>96451748
what will this tutor in shelob imo
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>>96451814
Damn I bought him for like 75 cents I think, why'd he jump to $2.50?
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>>96451814
Like a buck fitty
>wtf did they do to my girl?!
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>>96451714
>tfw no good mono white devotion payoffs
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>>96451922
damn thats ugly compared to the original
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>>96451922
>not going for a foil original art

NGMI
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Chud? Or Chad?
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>>96451922
>*noms you*
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>>96451983
I have never seen this card played in 15 years of edh.
Looks fun, there's probsbly some dumb build around me commander for it which would make it lame
But if you had some sort of first strike deck or pestilence deck that might be cool.
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>>96452000
canon vore...
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>>96452005
Big judith is kind of the same idea. But doesn't work with combat damage.
Instead you just spam 1 damage red wraths with deathtouch.
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>>96451814
$0.25
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>>96451814
140 or so.
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>>96451804
Baseball is for gay boomers. It's ok if you're old anon, just don't expect others to enjoy your old timey grandpa entertainment the same way that you do.
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>>96448800
Excited for my Peru stuffy doll deck and does great work in New Spider-Man deck
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>>96452080
Huh is there a term for that kinda ability? I know about Firebreathing
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It begins
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>>96452097
is this the UW version?
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>>96452076
I gotta see the list
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>>96452104
Yes
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>>96452104
Yeah, arena only for now.
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>>96452121
>black man
>electricity
COME THE FUCK ON
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>>96452127
??!??!?!?
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>>96452096
Pestilence. The red version is pyrohemia
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>>96452105
It's pretty basic but it does the job. I've had this deck together for years. The original commander was Karthus but I got screwed over too many times from it getting cloned, and then getting killed by my own dragon army. I've tried Darigaaz the igniter, Korvald, and Nekitora as the general but finally settled on OG vaevictis. He's a surprisingly good finisher after opponents have used up their board wipes and removal on my other dragons.
Pic related is the deckbox my bros got me for my birthday. I think it's supposed to be Ur-Dragon but it looks alot like Vaevictis too.

https://moxfield.com/decks/5TQkjadeZ0-4AHD2_Vq1aA
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new background commanders
background vehicles
background spaceships
background planets
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>>96452139
For some reason a lot of black heroes have lightning powers to the point it's a trope
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>>96452151
There's also a black snow version, if you want to double up on it.
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>>96452161
name 5
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>>96452097
I love how this card makes no fucking sense if you don't know how the original works.
What does it mean to "harness" this card? How do you access the "Origin" ability that is otherwise left completely undefined?
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>>96452180
Static Shock
Black Lightning
Electro
Storm
Miles Morales
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>>96452180
Static Shock
Black Vulcan
Black Lightning
Miles Morales
Bumblebee
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>>96452220
>>96452222
Name 20
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>>96452229
>>96452220
>>96452222
Black Vulcan
Cyborg
Aqualad
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Blue is objectively a badly designed color and if you insist on playing it we'll bully you out of our LGS and spread nasty rumors about you.
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>>96452278
based if true
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>>96452217
It's arena so it'll explain all keywords by just hovering over the card
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>>96452278
I'll allow the rumor to resolve.
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>>96452278
Mono blue is the most well designed color in the game and Dr. Richard Garfield's crowning achievement as a game designer. If you play blue you are a supremely based patrician chad.
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>>96445219
They banned jeweled lotus a few months after it was the face commander of the master set. They are fucking retarded and just want games to take forever.
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>>96452321
To be fair that was the RC not wotc and directly led to wotc taking over the format
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>"Blue was a mistake, it's nothing but trash." - Richard Miyazaki
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>>96452300
>Dr. Richard Garfield's crowning achievement as a game designer
That's OG netrunner, thobeit
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>>96446637
It’s 8 fucking mana dude. It’s not exactly cheating at that point.
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>>96452160
>background planets
Actually makes sense
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>>96452421
>convoke
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>>96452229
Static Shock
Black Vulcan
Black Lightning
Electro
Storm
Thunder
Miles Morales
Bumblebee
Cyborg
Aqualad
Lightning
Lightning Lad
Lightning Lass
The entire black land in Naruto is the land of Lightning with the top 4 dudes all using lightning. A (senior), A, Bee, dude who leads the village in Buroto that has a black lighting ability
The kid of Black Panther and Storm in that animated movie.
Volt
Blue Marvel
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>>96452421
Convoke is right there anon
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>>96452157
Out of curiosity why the dorks if your average cmc is so high? Wouldn't you be better served by something less vulnerable or more impactful?
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>>96447117
Yeah completely turning off counters and stifles for 2 mana is fucking brain dead asshole design when rdw and inset are running over everything.

That and the fucking cast spell get mana guy.
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>>96452157
>Darigaaz the igniter
That's who I use for my jund em out deck
I don't blame you for picking someone better
Besides head games and trying to scum an infect win his ability is pretty trash
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>>96452459
Possibly. I have had Nature's Lore and Three Visits in those spots before. I'm only running 3 dorks and they're solid ones but maybe rampant growth and cultivate would be better.
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>>96452459
>Why do you have ramp if your average CMC is high?
?
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>>96452491
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?
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>>96452482
>cast spell, get mana
His name is ELECTRO, chud
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>>96447117
>make amazing card that massively improves the game just by being on the board
>also make it capeshit nogslop
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>>96452483
He has a cool name and was a card I loved when I first started the game, and he reminded me of Trogdor the Burninator so I tried to make him work but he just isn't that good. Being able to see opponents hands is OK, but 3 mana+ attack damage, it's too expensive and hardly even worth it. Still, respect for going with such a based commander even though he's not very good. I used to think Vaevictis was jank too but he's a solid late game beanstalk, and people underrate him, he's won me a ton of games since I switched him in as commander and I like that he's an OG elder dragon.
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>>96452517
Autism vs the Human urge to be competitive
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>>96452531
>beanstalk
Meant to say beatstick
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>>96452517
ub when
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>>96452552
I would easily pay 100+ for a Haine card
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>>96447484
> possibly even cEDH
Not a chance. She does nothing even remotely useful there. It’s “play vintage all in combo with 4 players” the format. Not having card draw baked immediately excludes a commander.
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>>96452533
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>>96452517
yeah but 2mana do nothing dies to shock!!!!!! literally unplayable
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>>96447513
This is a retarded answer. Why am I playing Uro? Chain and basalt aren’t auto includes. Basalts for slow combo shit.

Haha just grab a cradle bro.
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>>96447537
It doesn’t though.
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How many decks do you softcocks have in the works at the moment?

>Vorsh, The Hunter
Rebuilding my super strong control deck with tons of ramp and consistency thanks to all the tutor and draw options in UBG. Win con is Vorosh getting huge and one shotting everyone thanks to replaying Time Warp effects.
>Oros, The Avenger
Anon in these threads said he had a white weenie equipment deck with nothing but white creatures and all the deathtouch equipment. I have to try that out.
>Selenia, Dark Angel
Not sure what angle I'm going with her. Could go lifegain, or lifedrain/lifeswap.
>Chromium
Picking him just for the colors. I want an under the radar stax deck in the colors.
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>>96452641
Just my second deck, which is some kinda mono black infect but i haven't really decided what to do yet.
Just slowly accumulating related cards that might be useful for it.
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>>96447513
>how to ruin a format for a new player: the speed run
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>>96451748
Is Human Soldier one creature type? Is Eldrazi Spawn one creature type? No, of course not.
Time Lord is an exception, and one that didn't even need to be made, given how my above examples already work. They learned their lesson and made Infinity and Stone separate types.
>>96451856
changelings
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>>96448800
Can’t you throw this on a fog and negate all damage? That’s pretty neat.
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>>96452641
Just 1, Rendmaw. Seems like it will put a fun spin on the game. Finished up the Black Vincent and tested it at the LGS tonight and im fairly happy with it
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>>96452641
0
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>>96451748
Yeah seems pretty obvious from this card or just bad wording
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>>96452855
Spider Hero is two separate types. It wants you to search for a creature with those two types together. That's how Magic words things.
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>>96451892
Thats funny cause I definitely traded this in for like 20 bucks store credit
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>>96452855
>or just bad wording
how is it bad wording? just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's bad. that's on you.
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>>96451936
This + Shepherd. Your goats bro
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>>96451856
29 cards so far
https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28%28t%3Aspider+t%3Ahero%29+OR+%28t%3Acreature+o%3Achangeling%29%29+ci%3Agb&order=released
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>>96446637
You can't just cheat things into play! You will regret this!
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>>96452217
Because the reminder text shows up on zoom in arena. You only understand the original because it was explained in the infinity reminder text.

Not saying that isn’t trash design but yeah.
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>>96452890
hmmm gwenom is a hero
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How many Sand creatures you got anon?
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>>96452450
How does he have 6 dudes to convoke with? Either way you cut it some shit happened that deserves to be punished with a card.
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>>96452926
>How does he have 6 dudes to convoke with?
Elves
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>>96452924
several
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>>96452930
>I let the elf deck make a bunch of elves and then bad things happened.
Dunno man seems pretty straight forward to me.
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Exiled Pathfinder 1
Creature - Human Scout
When this becomes exiled, search your library for a basic land card and put it onto the battlefield. then shuffle your library.
1/1
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>>96452971
finally some mono white ramp
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>>96452987
Hmm I've thought of "this can't be exiled" effects but I've never thought of "this can't leave exile" effects.
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>>96452971
Amulet Titan needed more help.
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Watching a member of the RC say Mana Drain isn't good because it "only" makes 3 mana on average.
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How would you build her?
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>>96453075
Mana Drain was obviously designed with mana burn in mind. People who play broken nonsense cards like this in a casual format like EDH are losers.
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>>96453092
Satyrs and madness/mayhem
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>>96453092
Tokens and madness with some regrowth effects
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>>96453092
>her
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>>96453201
>>her
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>>96453201
She's a girl with flat tits. They exist.
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>>96453208
>>96453210
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>>96453210
No, they're saying she CAN'T be a girl because she's a saytr and saytrs are traditionally male. However, they overlook the fact that, this is not ancient Greek mythology, this is Magic, so if WotC says they're female saytrs in Theros, there is. This will, of course, make them upset.
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>>96453224
Theros isn't Greece, do these autists not understand this?
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>>96453239
It literally is
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Apologize
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>>96452671
Nice. Skithryx?
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>>96453249
What for? I always thought he was right.
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Rome has Fauns which are female Satyrs btw
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>>96453243
It literally isn't Greece. Heliod isn't Zeus. They have an entirely separate pantheon.
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>>96453278
Its the same shit sent through a word scrambler dude, come off it. Hell, sometimes they even forgot to send names through the word scrambler and just moved it around a bit.
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>greece but gay
wow amazing world building
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>>96453292
You don't know much about ancient Greece if you think it wasn't gay, anon.
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theros was a hat set
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>>96453249
Who?
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>player gets his win condition countered in 2 games
>he doesn't win a single game all night
>says he's never coming back to the store
LGS moment
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where's swordbro?
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>>96453328
Locked in my basement
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>>96453249
I'm sorry Posty, I didn't appreciate Circles the first time I heard it but it's legitimately grown on me.
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>>96453249
i dont respect ytubers, let alone "people" who wear hats indoors
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>>96453297
it wasn't
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>>96453372
I'm afraid I've got some bad news
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>>96453297
https://youtu.be/BNAT4ybsz_E?si=sNENwp9N4onfxgew

there you go retard-kun, that american education sure is doing it's best.
next up you gonna tell us the holobonga was real.
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>>96453372
>According to Plutarch, the 300 hand-picked men were chosen by Gorgidas purely for ability and merit, regardless of social class.[20] It was composed of 150 male couples,[1] each pair consisting of an older erastes (ἐραστής, 'lover') and a younger eromenos (ἐρώμενος, 'beloved').[21] Athenaeus of Naucratis also records the Sacred Band as being composed of "lovers and their favorites, thus indicating the dignity of the god Eros in that they embrace a glorious death in preference to a dishonorable and reprehensible life",[11] while Polyaenus describes the Sacred Band as being composed of men "devoted to each other by mutual obligations of love".[9] The origin of the "sacred" appellation of the Sacred Band is unexplained by Dinarchus and other historians. But Plutarch claims that it was due to an exchange of sacred vows between lover and beloved at the shrine of Iolaus (one of the lovers of Heracles) at Thebes. He also tangentially mentions Plato's characterization of the lover as a "friend inspired of God".[20][21]
Even the #1 Greek hero Herakles was a homo
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>>96453374
>>96453380
see >>96453379

jfc, imagine using wikipedia as reference for anything.
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>>96453379
>thinks I'm going to put whatever weird ass 20 subscriber right wing retard into my recommendeds.
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>>96453384
>He says this as he got his opinion from a youtuber
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>>96453379
>I share a thread with people who watch this boomer algorithm slop
Grim. Maybe it's time to move on from this hobby.
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>>96453384
I read translations of the greek myths written by ancient Greeks. Herakles was gay af. Achilles himself spent 10 years crossdressing as a woman on an island, avoiding the invasion of Troy.
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>>96453094
Even with mana burn as a mechanic existing, it wasn't enough to stop it from getting banned in type 2. It's counterspell+ritual on the same card for no extra cost.
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>>96453395
>i share a thread with people who watch this [[buzzword]] [[buzzword]] [[buzzword]]
have you tried forming an opinion of your own?
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>>96453429
Where do I get one? From a youtuber you like?
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>>96453384
I say dragons are real and are all gay men. All my sources for this are passages from books I know you're not going to read anyway.
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>>96453379
>roach jewtuber cope
vs
>reading the primary sources yourself and seeing how rampant bisexuality was the norm for ancient Greek men
lol, lmao even

Now, I'm not saying they were all fruity faggots prancing around dressed in women's clothing (Achilles was though), they were more of the "enjoying the company of other men" type of gay.
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>>96453452
In ancient Greece it wasn't considered gay if you were the one doing the buttfucking, it was only gay if you're the butt getting fucked. And no matter how you try and spin things, Achilles was an extremely flamboyant cross dressing faggot who fucked his younger male cousin.
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>>96453497
Only in the modern day have we invented entire Olympic events to justify what is and isn't gay. The Greeks on the other hand just invented Olympic events where they just ran naked covered in oil and didn't give a shit about such stupid things.

Really the only gay shit (derogatory) going on here is people not talking about the fucking card game. Those fags can kindly get out.
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>>96451362
>remove the oneshot machine
>this counts as tilting according to tifa fag
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>>96453384
anon you know when teachers told you this, they were telling you to literally not put "source: wikipedia" in your work, right? you were still allowed to get information from wikipedia, because wikipedia has the info's source.
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>>96453532
This guy's still tilted.
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>>96453604
No, I use superior sources.
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>>96453604
Your teachers sound retarded
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>>96453641
did you misunderstand my post?
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>>96453649
No
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>>96453651
then explain your response
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>>96453653
No.
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>>96453641
Achilles being a crossdressing homo was written in the Iliad by Homer.
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Does this count as MLD even though it's a symmetrical tempo card?
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>>96453664
Yeah but my source is more reliable. Watch this video and educate yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XsPtpsBVSk&list=PL8C4B77DD3AD4D0A1
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>>96453686
yes
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>>96453686
so is amargeddon and nobody will dispute that being mld
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Anons, what are some good alternate wincon for this guy? My friends have noticed that my deck doesn't do anything without him, so he is getting removed as soon as he drops.
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>>96453807
that's what you get for play KOSslop. then people just jam in a combo and wonder why their do nothing deck is getting targeted
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he's lowkey peak, or am I missing something
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>>96453841
naw he is crazy when you run all removal. edicts especially
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>>96453823
Any good alternative Commanders? I didn't know much about Magic when I built this deck. I just liked the idea of building a big monster by casting spells.
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>>96453807
all will be one+quest for pure flame
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I want an old stickfingers but he puts all the revealed cards into the graveyard
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>>96453872
propably something with an immediate etb effect. it deters removal since you can then recast the commander and get the enters trigger again. if you want to stay on lotr cards or amass, the 8 mana sauron is a choice
that or the commander has to have some kind of protection. anything that just wants to sit there without it is doomed to die. it's like daring the other players to let you untap, they won't
the cheaper sauron has ward but is even more KOS so I wouldn't recommend him unless you want to play 3v1 which I gather you didn't.
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Baking.
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