Previous Thread: >>96444461>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Post your decks, ask for advice, talk about what you like in them, etc.
after years of seeing all this shit I think he was right. there is nothing they can do to make me stop playing. no broken mechanic, no art, no meme they print will make me not like the game itself. and that, MaNo, is a challenge. maybe one day I'll even feel nostalgic for companion
>>96454136Is this a bad thing? What is the context you want us to extract from seeing this image?
>>96454136blade is almost alright, but that expression is ass.
>>96454136Blacula gets a pass.
Hello, my love, welcome to guided edh affirmationsRepeat these affirmations each morning for 21 days and you will notice a change in your mood and health of this threadI do not need to respond to schizo posts>I do not need to respond to schizo postsI will post decklists when asked, it is a compliment>I will post decklists when asked, it is a complimentI will not try to dunk on others if I don't understand how my deck works>I will not try to dunk on others if I don't understand how my deck worksI do not need to make up stories about games that didn't happen to fit a narrative>I do not need to make up stories about games that didn't happen to fit a narrativeI am a competent player who does not need to samefag to prove it>I am a competent player who does not need to samefag to prove itI will not try to boost my self-esteem by bringing up cEDH in discussion about casual decks>I will not try to boost my self-esteem by bringing up cEDH in discussion about casual decksI will not feel injured if my deck does not stack up to cEDH decks>I will not feel injured if my deck does not stack up to cEDH decksI do not need to prove my MTG knowledge by bringing up card interactions that are not related to the discussion>I do not need to prove my MTG knowledge by bringing up card interactions that are not related to the discussionI show respect towards myself and other posters when I fully read a post/post chain before replying>I show respect towards myself and other posters when I fully read a post/post chain before replyingI will recognize that the posters in this thread are more dedicated than 90% of the player base and as such I am sweaty>I will recognize that the posters in this thread are more dedicated than 90% of the player base and as such I am sweatyI will have fun adapting to new strategies, even if they invalidate my boomer mentalities>I will have fun adapting to new strategies, even if they invalidate my boomer mentalities
>>96453251Yeah him or Yawgmoth, i can't really decide.
>>96454223fag
>>96454223I WILL play in your casual pod with my $8000 mono blue deck and you WILL sit there patiently as I play solitaire
>>96454429Nothing can keep me at a table I don't want to be at, save death. And you may wield it but you are NOT death. You cannot hold me down.
I love this card. It punishes a lot of common play patterns (play mana rocks to ramp into big artifacts, play a support blocker to not get your voltron commander edicted, etc).
>>96454499Yawn. Anyway, you had anything else to play, anon? And yes, I have more responses, because I always have it.But being real, I don't like wipes that leave things in graveyards anymore, even if I get the choice of what goes there, too much recursion happens nowadays. Also, one of my fellow players has an aristocrat deck, so this helps him. Do you like helping aristocrat decks, anon?
>>96454556Not playing a boardwipe against an aristrocat deck in fear of losing a lot of life is stupid. Things only get worse and they get worse fast. So the sooner you act, the better. If it came to the point where a boardwipe would kill you, you almost lost the game anyway.
>>96454556
I love big ass tittiesPost decks with big ass titties
>>96454556Sounds like you don't play enough grave hate.
>>96454573Like I said, it doesn't matter. Anything else anon? No? How unfortunate...
>>96454719tap
>>96454631Sorry, but Wizards Of Tight Chests said you're getting all speedbumps.
>>96454777Toph my beloved, our time is nigh... The lucky 7 trips have spoken...
>>96454856>>96454777Toph is easily one of the hottest mtg characters.
>>96454719>>96454749You're both gay
Post>Your favorite Mono-Color>Your favorite Dual-Color>Your favorite Tri-Color>What you're listening to>Your age>Your favorite deck to play>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yet>Why you haven't built it yet
>>96454903>PostMalone?>Your favorite Mono-ColorGiada.>Your favorite Dual-ColorDeathrite Shaman. Yes, I know.>Your favorite Tri-ColorEshki Dragonclaw.>What you're listening toMy gf yapping about "hot girl Summer" ending.>Your age37>Your favorite deck to playChandra burn.>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetToph.>Why you haven't built it yetShe's not out yet.Want my credit card info and social security number too?
>>96454123Should I go for 3 dorks, 3 cluestones and 3 lockets in lieu of land ramp spells?
>>96453397No you haven't lol. Hercules wasnt gay. Hiding isnt cross dressing. Youre a brainbombed zoomie lmao>>96453452Feel free to post some snippets from the source material you think supports your view anon because as someone actually familiar with it I know you are lying and won't be able to. Heck you seem completely uneducated on the topic. Any form of male-male love in Greece was harshly punished and ridiculed and there were laws to prevent men who acted that way from having a stake in society.>ermmm but but pederastyVery rare, and only the upper echelons did it. This is like saying everyone in the modern world is fucking babies and that its widely accepted because of Epstein island.>>96454946>37>girlfriendYikes
>>96454951>Running into the new thread to schizo post about the oldPlease, fuck off and die.
>>96454903>Postmisleading sign>Your favorite Mono-ColorBlack>Your favorite Dual-ColorBoros>Your favorite Tri-ColorEsper>What you're listening tomy adhd feet shaking under the table>Your age33>Your favorite deck to playDemons>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetMarneus Calgar>Why you haven't built it yetToo much card/land overlap with Oloro and I want to neither disassemble nor buy my 600$ manabase twice
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorW>Your favorite Dual-ColorOrzhov>Your favorite Tri-ColorEsper>What you're listening toLegion of Skanks>Your age35>Your favorite deck to playMyrel>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetHinata Flicker>Why you haven't built it yetI have too many flicker decks
>>96455081Blame 4chan for archiving the thread between my two posts.
>>964550894chan was telling you to let go, anon. Let go.
Did we really need more landslop in G? They could have used this as a cool opportunity to do noncreature clones or something in G. Like have him enter as a copy of an artifact and it augment his p/t or something.
>>96454903>Colorless>Simic>Sultai>The AC blowing >24>Bobby “Kinnan” Hill>Nicol Bolas, the Ravager>Haven’t got the commitment to build him yet
>>96455103Why would sandman clone? Hes a dumb bad guy that would make no sense. Why artifacts? None of this makes sense.
>>96455118I'm with you, but treasures actually make sense for most spiderman villains. 9/10 of them rob banks.
>>96455118Because he turns his body into objects to use as weapons
No one ever expects the boros player to edict
>>96454136
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorBlue>Your favorite Dual-ColorDimir>Your favorite Tri-ColorEsper or Grixis>What you're listening tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfxjeZaYzgU>Your age32>Your favorite deck to playCurrently Golbez, once the Surveil machine starts to turn, I love the feel>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetToph, Flip Sephiroth, Cayth (again), Inspirit Flagship Vessel>Why you haven't built it yetToph isn't out, I don't know how to aristocrats good (and I already have a monoblack deck I wanna make), and I already have an artifact deck focused on tokens so the last two would step on its toes for resources.
>>96455127I still fail to see the relation here. His power is related to how much sand he has. Relating his strength to that makes sense. You just have edhgbrain
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96455170>>96455127Ladies, please. Instead, to mimic his ability to, well, *mimic* objects, why not make it so he has imprint and you can exile a permanent you control. As long as it remains exiled, he gets a buff based on what it is.
>>96455103>landslopopinion discarded
>>96455202That also sounds awful. I like what they did
>>96455226>>96455227>t. landslop enjoyers
>>96455103WOTC wants to push mono green in standard and lands are the strongest resource in the game. So they are going full focus on them.
>>96454903>Black>Rakdos>Temur>Failure, The Nurse Who Loved Me>34>Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder>Gonti, Lord of Luxury>A friend of mine plays it (he thinks it looks like Darth Vader)
>thread is full of 30+ year oldsDon't you have taxes to file or whatever old people do
>>96454123>TQI don't have a pic right now, but I'm trying to refine my colorless Zhulodok deck. It's your usual setup of big shit like the titans, blight steel colossus, and so on. How should I be setting up my mana curve? My thought process was to lean heavily into 7+ creatures so that when I cascade, I don't get fucked by little creatures showing up. I'm mostly running as much ramp as possible to get to 7 mana ASAP.
>>96455103
How many of you guys running him?
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorGreen>Your favorite Dual-ColorGruul>Your favorite Tri-ColorTemur>What you're listening toSpeedrun history vids>Your age29>Your favorite deck to playRn it's necrobloom>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetNeerdiv, Devious Diver >Why you haven't built it yetThe idea of having a mono color combo infinite feels fun but I'm worried I'll just play it once and never again, also I have a couple other decks on my maybe list
>>96455451>worse madness>no Batman mask0/10
>>96455353Are you surprised? I'm pretty sure gen Z only plays arena.
>>96455451>Supposed to be the master of disguise>Keeps his name so you know its himIs he stupid?
>>96455523I'm more surprised because this thread has so many poorfags who consider every GC insurmountably expensive.
>>96455551Being in your 30s doesn't automatically mean you have a job or are financially well off.It should, but that's not a rule.
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorWhite>Your favorite Dual-ColorDimir>Your favorite Tri-ColorEsper>What you're listening toFootsteps to avoid getting caught slacking on the job>Your age28>Your favorite deck to playHylda (go wide and big tokens, cast 1 sided global tapdowns, hit face)>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yet>Why you haven't built it yetSimic fractal/ooze token turbo. I just haven't found a commander that I like for the deck yet. There's some interesting ones like Kianne//Imbraham where you could exile some Slime Against Humanity and then it plays into both halves but I feel like it's not a strong enough payoff. The recent rule change to MDFC transforming might make me take another look at it. There's also a strixhaven set next year so I'm looking forward to that now that every set has a hundred commanders in them.
>>96454123>Post your decksDon't mind if I do
>>96454903White, I guess.BorosSultaiAudio book for the Shadow Glass second novel, don't remember the title off hand39Anim Pakal aggroNarci, just not a priority right now.
I want to proxy a CEDH deck to see where the power ceiling is. I'm thinking of an Etali deck
>>96454951Herakles was bisexual and had several male lovers. Achilles spent 10 years crossdressing on an island hiding from a war, and was obsessively in love with his young male cousin. It doesn't get much gayer than that.
>>96455551I'm going to take a guess that you're living with your parents and/or have no kids. You'll understand how little excess money functional adults have once you get there in life, especially right now with back to school for kids.
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorRed>Your favorite Dual-ColorGolgari>Your favorite Tri-ColorJeskai>What you're listening toTinnitus>Your age30s>Your favorite deck to playProgenitus cascade>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetKalamax >Why you haven't built it yetI don't like the art, it's not kaiju enough for me
Do you guys care about stuff like foil, alternate anime art, borderless, showcase, and whatever else? Or do you just go "whatever is cheapest" when buying? Like a regular smothering tithe is $20, but the anime one is $150, $300 (foil), or $700 (confetti foil).
>>96455683If the alt art is cheaper or only a few dollars more I'll usually get that.I'm not paying more than 5 dollars more for different art or foil
>>96455647>etali>cEDH
>>96455683i proxy all cards above 5 dollars
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorBristly Bill landfall-slop>Your favorite Dual-ColorVraska the Silencer removal tribal>Your favorite Tri-Color Aminatou manifest/blink>What you're listening to my colleague complaining about work>Your age 27>Your favorite deck to play Sygg theft>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yet Ragost>Why you haven't built it yetBoros is not a color combination I usually like in EDH
>>96455451No I'm running this guy
>>96455732>Bristly Bill landfall-slopTell me about the cactus man. Can you run him with other cactus fuckers like Cactaur?
>>96454123Sorry for the Ur-Dragon deck bros.
>>96455719Food Chain wins games.
https://moxfield.com/decks/ZsmwWi_5REOaCUL6FlvvkAShould I just change out cyclonic rift?
>>96455719He is, regardless of your feeling about it. Wanna continue to look stupid?https://edhtop16.com/
>>96455719Etali is one of the strongest and easiest to play cEDH commanders right now and just took first place at a 500 person cEDH tournament, you silly noob.
>>96455754reguar cactuar does not work well with him, and jumbo cactuar is better in decks like Henzie toolbox or Samut to give him haste, or someone that can give it trample.by the way here's the decklist, it's mostly updated: https://moxfield.com/decks/qAR0pynliE29NaUOlMv2cABristly bill over Tifa because I can always spend 5 mana to pump the board if I don't have cards in hand. Ulamog will probably be replaced although this deck can reach 10 mana without problems
How autistic am I if I want my decks to have a "theme" or be tribal? I get that competitive decks are just whatever works, but I like running a visually consistent deck.
>>96455683>alt arts, showcase, etcAll versions of a card are equally playable so I usually go with what's cheapest.The only exception is for flavor reasons or the extended art or whatever. Even then I really only go for it if the price is less than $10 extra.I will always go for the extended art of a pet card like Lethal Scheme because I get the bonus cat and it removes the cluttered reminder text for convoke and connive.I should say if Im ordering proxies or playing digital I go nuts and get whatever matches the flavor of the deck the best.>foilsI almost universally avoid foils because I think mtg's foils are ass. WOTC desperately needs to go talk to any other card game about it. Have you ever seen the crazy shit japanese card games can pull off? Our textured foils look like ass compared to the stuff I've seen from yugioh or pokemon.
>guy wheels>starts doing his combo while I'm shuffling>'ok all of you are tapped out, I'll cast this and this and you all take 1k damage'>top deck pic rel from wheel>'I sac X, cast flare for free'>'thats so fair, so expected and definitely can play around it, I'll swords your creature before you sac it''this card generated so much asshurt, is it really that strong?
>>96455814>I almost universally avoid foils because I think mtg's foils are ass.As someone who is new to mtg, what the fuck is up with the foils? Some of them barely look shiny, they almost always curl, and only a very few cards have special foil (ripple, surge), and it's BARELY noticeable.
>>96454139>Is this a bad thing?nta, but yes. it is bad, safe corporate art/design. it's a sickness that has been dominant for over a decade in our culture and can be found all over in popular franchises like tabletop, video games and shows/movies. safe corporate art lacks all masculinity - it's soft, boring and kid-friendly. like it all comes from women's minds. it has no edge and no soul. you don't see this shit and go "nice". you just feel disgust.
>>96455840Yeah thats definitely what that image is whinging about lol
>>96455840Anon I don't think the image was complaining about softness. I could see it if it was just blacula and his dumb smirk but here we are
>>96455840I think you're just brainrotted. When I see this, I feel nothing, because it doesn't interest or appeal to me. Any other response is schizo shit. Take meds.
>>96454123tq>>96455613I am very tempted to make tifa but I already have four green decks, this looks fun
>>96455823you can't swords something sacrificed for cost
>>96455852>>96455868what I'm telling you is the core problem. I'm a racist too, but I don't give a fuck about some africans doing african shit in africa. I have a problem with leftoid/woke elements hiring their cousins to draw bad art. it just so happens that (extremely racist) leftoid/woke elements are in love with brown-skinned people and need to draw them once in a while or else they would explode. nobody would give a shit if the art was edgy and masculine, like early 00's mtg art often was. stuff like the new norin art is an abomination. >>96455872>When I see this, I feel nothingthat's because of your medication, and that's why you always want others to take meds.
>>96455885it was the beginning of a long faggoty discussion
>>96455918But what you said makes little sense in relation to at least half of the collage. Please shut the fuck up and get off your soapbox this is an edh thread no one cares about your philosphizing
>>96455918anon I was just saying that I think the guys only issue is that the characters are black and nothing else
>>96455928the entire collage is a collection of ass>>96455938noticed how there is not a single old artwork in the collage? because even racists like anon would not care if the art wasn't done by woke/leftoid hacks
>>96455823Free spells exist to counter bullshit, this enrages bullshit players.
>>96455947Anon the guy included the kid from Stranger Things in the collage
>>96454223based
>>96455137mang I really wanna jam this but the only deck with white and red is the one that wants my opponents to have creatures so I can win with repercussion
>>96455959>Free spells exist to counter bullshitFree counterspells exist to protect combos.
5c chads...
>>96454223THINK FAST
>>96455884that deck looks like the deck from CMDRDeck. based.
>>96456023chromantikeks... owari da...
>>96455837Hasbro/WotC, in pure capitalistic fashion, decided to cut costs and use way cheaper materials in their foils, which led to all the problem we've been having for the last... 10 years? Give or take. All these years later and they still haven't admitted the fuck up and never will. Foils will likely always be 100% shit forever
>>96456023>WE PUT MULTIVERSE IN YOUR MULTIVERSEwhat a dumpster fire set, I've not met a single person excited for it.
>>96455551>you have disposable income so you must CONSOOMthankfully god has denied your get to tell us that your post is not blessed with truth
>>96455918I don't take meds, I'm just mentally unwell like you. Would you prefer therapy instead? Or do you not believe in that?
>>96455837The simple answer is also the most likely, which is cost and greed. Fuck WOTC, they can afford to make their foils not ass as a billion dollar game. They do the bare minimum and call it good.
>>96455823free spells and combos are faggy. you’re both faggots
>>96456079Combos have existed since the game first started. If you don't like combos, you just don't like Magic and should stop playing.
>>96456079Fuck you buddy I love Cascade and Discover.
>>96456095This.
>>96455823cards like this and teferi's protection make people so fucking mad.worse then straight up counter spelling the spell.
>>96455885>>96455925Why is that the case, anyway? What is the ruling on it? You are paying the additional cost of sacrificing a creature to cast the spell, so them exiling it doesn't matter since you are already sacrificing it?
>Doesn't even need to exile exile to make the copy, like every other eternalize cardwhat the fuck
>>96456176costs are paid as part of casting the spell. Other players won't have priority until the spell is on the stack. By then creature they want to path doesn't exist anymore. It was sacrified to put flare on the stack.
>>96456188This card does not have eternalize
>>96456211It is a series of mechanically similar effects that all make 4/4 black zombie token copies of a creature. The only difference with hashaton is he doesn't have to exile the original like all the other somewhat similar effects do.
>>96456023Guess the Universes Within version of this card for Arena. 5c spider tribal is a really weird one to try to find flavor for.
>>96456245Kyle, The spider god- "Fuck yeah, spiders"
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorRed, my Fumiko deck filters basedboys>Your favorite Dual-ColorOrzhov, interaction and the coolest creatures>Your favorite Tri-ColorEsper, same as above but with artifacts>What you're listening toSupreme Clientele 2>Your age35>Your favorite deck to playSydri Galvanic Genius, destroying treasures, unequipping equipment at instant speed, and Magister Sphinxing is a great time>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetKilo>Why you haven't built it yetIt’s in the process, will post mail day later
>>96456245It'll be an ai generated image of a spider with rainbow energy emanating from it with a nebula behind it or something
>>96455683I prefer borderless, but im a cheap jew and will get the cheaper print 9 times out of 10
>>96456036thanks bitch, you too
>>96456023It wouldn't be a Universes Beyond set without the arbitrary 5c commander so Timmy can jam all of his favorite in-universe characters into the same deck.
>>96454123>tqOh sweet a bunch of blurry pictures of rando decks that nobody will respond to! Unless there's tiddy proxies of course!
>>96455763Do you ever win, or do you get jumped every game? Because ive never seen a UR dragon deck actually win
>>96454903W or UUBWURmy dog barking at something through the window 32kami of the crescent mooncant think of any
>>96454903>>Your favorite Mono-ColorBlack and Red are really close. >>Your favorite Dual-ColorSelesnya >>Your favorite Tri-ColorBant>>Your favorite deck to playI think it's still Selvala Explorer Returned but I haven't actually gotten a game in with it in a long time because of the whole MLD aspect. >>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetTroyan, Gutsy Explorer. When I was fucking around on MTGO I noticed it has some similar play patterns to Selvala namely the 3 cmc, tapping for mana. >>Why you haven't built it yetWell technically I have built it on MTGO with my draft scraps but that deck only barely counts. I'm not super excited to build simic, I just got done building a bant deck and I shit on simic players a lot IRL. I'll get around to it sometime soon.
>>96456331what the hell is that?
>>96456363I win when my friends act retarded about who the actual threat is. Usually they jump me when I get out Tiamat or Draconic Muralists
>>96455972and?
>>96456046who
I very badly want to stop building decks that go from no or little boardstate into a single turn win and go back to playing more of a vulnerable commit to the board style of play with incremental advantage. I'm pretty aware that this will not make winning easier but I think it will be more fun. Any tips?
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorK'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth>Your favorite Dual-ColorMalcolm & Kediss (Jhoria of the Ghitu if not counting partners)>Your favorite Tri-ColorChulane, Teller of Tales>What you're listening toVoodoo - D'Angelo(album)>Your ageNull>Your favorite deck to playMalcolm & Kedis, these retards are insanely fun to fuck around with(Amulet Titan in modern)>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetFlubs, the fool>Why you haven't built it yetHaven't had the time. I have a half assed decklist ready but haven't wanted to goldfish it yet, and still need to make cuts.>>96454946I don't like you>>96455087Based.>>96455732>sygg theft
>>96456289Weaver of Fabrications
>>96454903>White>Selesnya>Bant>majority report>really tough, gluntch artifact tokens or OG eriette with beneficial auras>emet-selch>too busy rn
>>96455683Whatever is cheapest unless I have a particular pet deck or a card I really enjoy, then I just pick the art/design I personally like that most and try to buy that, but I also have a hard 10 dollar limit on a single card.
>>96455683>foil, alternate anime art, borderless, showcase, and whatever else?Back when full arts exclusively came from people making alters themselves, it was a huge flex. WOTC made full arts are for morons. Original printing standard printing and original standard printing in foil are the only cards worth picking up now.
>>96455532The chameleon is a bit of an egomaniac in the comics and cartoons. He is great at impersonating people, but he also wants people to know he was the person impersonating people. Think the Riddler always leaving clues for his crimes because he has the need to feel like he's smarter than everybody else.
Old lands just hit different.
>>96455683i just pick whichever has the art i like most if its more than a few bucks though i will just proxy it
>>96456582I'm partial to invasion lands myselfsome newer lands are cool too, I like lorywn's. I can't wait to see how the fuck them up with the return to set.
>>96455683If a fancy version I prefer is only a few bucks more or same price as a standard one, I'll get that.My One Ring is the borderless foil bundle version because thay was cheapest.
>>96456460Do bottom up deckbuilding and stop picking commanders that are part A of a combo or stop trying to big combo entirely.inb4 but Im notAre you really? Because that's what it sounds like.
>>96455683I go out of my way to NOT get the alternate art version. It's become a giant hassle to order cards, because these special versions of cards aren't special at all and are often even cheaper than the real cards. And if you don't look out you'll receive a load of borderless showcase anime crap.
>>96456388It's a Palmon from Palworld
>>96456606I have been playing a lot of the primeval dragons, I hardly even cast them. I focus most of my efforts on ramping and drawing then overrunning. Maybe the commander isn't the problem but maybe you aren't too far off the mark. Ground up you say... Hmm....
>>96454223
>>96455683I used to care but now I just get whatever's cheapest. I don't even care about condition. To me, a card being slightly bent and frayed around the edges is the nicest frame it can have.
Kek
>>96456658...huh. That's really fucking good
>>96456615No, it's Lilligant from Pokémon. Stop lying.
>>96456695>wrong recruiter of the guard artso close!
>>96456701No, I'm pretty sure it's sunflowmon from Digimon
>>96456618I want to add that I am 100% guilty of acting like a smol bean and I want to stop being a pussy.
>>96456095so have free spells
>>96456709Wasn't gonna buy another version since i pulled one already. The other one is much better though
>>96456658>It's a 'cool card but spiderman for some fucking reason'
>>96456757I have the same feelings about this card
>>96456740Yes, free spells and combos are both legitimate parts of the game.
>>96456740Moxen and lotus justifying free removal is hilarious to me
>>96455823i prefer this but both are good
>>96456841Name a single removal card that is actually free without some sort of requirement or alternative cost.
>>96456879tormod's crypt ur go
>>96456658shit art so can't play, sadly
Imagine...
>>96456898why is this one mana and why does it count your draw for turn?
He can't even catch a break in fucking MTG
>>96456920>constantly engaging in risk taking behavoir>actually its just bad luckcomic niggas don't actually do they?
Best counterspell art coming through
>>96456942I would feel personally offended if this was used against me.
>>96456890It requires sacrificing it.
>>96456942I hope this is the gold foil from Aetherdrift and not just a piss yellow background
Why do fags pretend that MLD is an answer to Green in casual EDH? every whiny faggot who ever complains about Mass Land Destruction being a social faux pas always says they "need it to stop the green player from running away with the game", meanwhile Green is almost universally the only color that runs Crucible of World effects, especially now with pushed as fuck re-prints of it like Icetill ExplorerSo what is the actual excuse for running it now other than just wanting the game to last 3 hours
>>96456898Pushed broken bullshit, and on a lame C-list character too
>>96456981and tapping it toobazinga!
>>96456776this, should've been goku
>>96454136>either impressively ugly and revolting or unwarranted smug levels of 100%, no inbetweenWhy?
>>96456879free refers to the mana cost.
>>96454294My bro has had a skithiryx deck since he came out. It's very strong and a cheap deck to make.
What is considered a "budget" edh deck?
>>96456920Huh, is there a term for this kinda effect? I've seen it on other cards. Kinda wanna make a deck where everyone is revealing a ton of cards and losing a ton of life like this
>>96457012da joos
>>96456991You just don't get it man. Land destruction was fine 30 years ago in 1vs1 play. That means there can't ever be anything wrong with it. So if I play some mana rocks and blow up all lands, it simply means that I'm smarter than everybody else. You should be thankful to be allowed to watch me play the game while you can't do anything without lands.
>>96457047Dark Confidant variants
>>96457045Kinda depends on the person. Some swear it's less than $100, some believe it's less than $50
>>96457045Probably under 100 bucks
>>96457045the moment you dont put a card in your list because its too expensive
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-Colorred>Your favorite Dual-Colordimir>Your favorite Tri-Colorgrixis>What you're listening tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVGrU2uT06U&list=RDpVGrU2uT06U&start_radio=1>Your age36>Your favorite deck to playKefka/Parnesse https://archidekt.com/decks/13429111/kefka_max>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetwinter, tormented guide>Why you haven't built it yetprobably too mean
>>96457045$100 or less.
>>96457045cheaper than a precon
>>96457056Stop projecting your insecurities on to others. Blowing up a ton of lands has nothing to do with proving how smart you are. It's simply a fun thing to do.
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorGREEN!>Your favorite Dual-ColorI love WG for flavor, BG for power, but WR is where it's at for me.>Your favorite Tri-ColorABZAN, or as I like to call it Teneb colors.>What you're listening toNothing.>Your age42>Your favorite deck to playHorde of Notions aggro>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetSelenia>Why you haven't built it yetI'm working on it. Not sure the direction I want to go.
>>96457054what is he trying to say?whats a grocery store auntie?
>>96456890Sacrificing a permanent is a big requirement
>wotc hasnt printed a card for your deck in over a yearfeels kinda weird ngl.
>>96457094man wait till you learn about instants and sorceriesthey don't even hit the battlefield
>>96457099Hard to believe with how much new crap they are putting out, what deck?
>>96457099this is actually very normal and our format would be better if it was more common
>>96457106They also have costs to cast them.
>>96457012see >>96455840corporate slop art forced by leftoid/woke cultists. complete lack of edge and/or beauty.
>>96457115Osgir. they just dont release good artifacts he can abuse because everything playable is legendary.
>>96457099If the avatar set doesn't have a bear I'm gonna post my suicide note to edhg
>>96457059Fuck, these are the only two that hit other players and not just yourself. There goes that idea
>>96456658>>96456942based tentacle-chad
>>96457099>make lynde, curse deck>duskmourne comes out, see badass enchant player card>not a curse despite curses being a thing in multiple sets>just forgotten
>>96457089a grovery store auntie is a middle-aged to old woman working in a grocery store. he is trying to say that woke artists uglify everything they touch.
>>96457137there is a new card in the spiderman set. peter parker bad luck or something.
>>96457137look at caustic bronco
>>96457150....yeah no shit, follow the post chain, I was the one that replied to that card
>>96457123I fail to see your point. Free spells refer to the casting cost. The important thing here is being able to play around untapped mana, if you can't understand that please let me know because I can go into more detail.
>>96457157>reading this garbagehard pass.
>>96399074
>>96457163If you know free cost spells exist, learn to play around them. In short, get good noob.
>>96457137I like to run those effects in Betor, Ancestor's Voice, but yeah, most hit yourself
>>96456942can't wait for the DC crossover for the batman slap meme version. we love memes on cards here
>monoblack chainer deck>eat through my life>tutor pic rel>ashnod or sac for mana>"haha man you are gonna die on your upkeep- NOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
this set really is just where is waldo, huh
>>96457099feels good man. pandering with autoincludes is the shit that ruins all creativity
>>96456898This just seems lazy to me
>>96456892Just cut out the art of Wrath and then color over it with some black.
>>96457300>TWO manalichurally unplayable
>>96457084I run back to basics, winter orb, static orb and trinisphere purely to make newfags like you seethe
>>96457376I like stax, both playing it and playing against it. Good job for playing stax. Keep up the good work buddy.
>>96454136is that levar burton in the bottom right corner?
Jeremy MacDougalWUB1/31, pay 2 life: exile a card in your hand from the game. Any player may play this ability any time they could play a sorcery.If a permanent entering the battlefield, drawing a card, a creature attacking or permanent going to the graveyard would cause an ability to trigger, that ability now triggers when a card they own is exiled. (Abilities without the correct context such as 'defending player' will fizzle)>>96457376>running stax against people in casual games unannouncedI hope you don't mind when I remove every combo or value piece from your deck so you'll twiddle your thumbs until the table gets tired of you. Stax players being salty cunts when they get a taste of their own medicine and kvetching about being targeted makes me giggle.
Spiderman fans: why is this guy not called Doc Croc?
>>96457137>>96457047I don't think you'll be able to quite make a top-deck-burns-you deck but it could be a part of some sort of top deck matters thing where you play pic where people are encouraged to beat you with high MV cards but then you flip the script and punish people for putting high value on top.
>>96457468Characters are typically defined by their theme, he’s a croc by coincidence , but the reason he’s called the sewer rapist is because of the location of the horrible acts he commits.
You didn't try to blasphemous act my board did you?
>>96457181I accept your concession.
Are you fucking kidding me
>>96457563You people hated fantasy so much, you cried and pissed your pants and opened your wallets for anything but magic lore, this is what you get
I hate comics so much its unreal.
Most unrealistic card in magic btw
>>96456196Yeah, that's what I thought was the case, you can't interrupt the casting of a spell or paying the costs.>>96456188And that is why Hashaton is the number 2 (used to be number 1) esper commander
lol
>>96457659The Latina mother I understand but a supportive black dad is something I refuse to believe exists. Also black man x Latina woman is a couple I only see in Hollywood but never irl.
I have come full circle on capenabest set we have had since Khans block
>>96457714>i play hot dog cart >i make hotdog
>>96457241>waldoA Waldo UB would be pretty tits, ngl.
>>96457722I do social work (kill me wtf was I thinking), I see that combination every day. It's actually probably the most common interracial combination we get.Hey anyone have advise for leaving a job that sucks, is killing you and actively making you racist? I am 100% fueled by sunk cost fallacy at this point. I figured mtg players could relate since all of you shoulda quit a long time ago.
>this is what magic is now
>>96457769Every Latina i know openly hates black men
Now this is landslop I approve of
>>96457809Huh, crazy.
did you guys see the doc oc lady who is one mana and casts artifacts for free?
>>96457850Pushed woke nonsense
>>96457850Imagine looking at the thread you're in. >>96456898
>>96457870oh fuck this is edhg isnt it
Reveal her card cowards
>>96457888You and that other anon never saw it coming
>>96457729Same here. I've kind of been in the mood for some New Cap. A shame all we're getting is more UB slop.Sadly the monkeypaw would curl and it would be shit. I can't trust WOTC to not fuck it up.Semi related and open to anyone question. Was New Cap. enjoyable to open for the SET boosters?inb4 >opening productI know. I just want to for fun and it's only like $100 for a box.
>>96457729I like wedges I like themesI like capena I think they did a great job, if only they would learn the right lessons from a set like that
>>96457437>being this mad that someone is playing cards in the card game
>>96457792and people are HAPPY. if you don't like YOU have to leave now
>>96457956>and people are HAPPYwhere?
>>96457952>from a set like hat
>>96457956Even the UB dick riders are starting to turn coat as well. It's mainly because there's way too much product being printed even for normies As soon as a set comes out, the next set is being spoiled/revealed. People don't even have time to get mad anymore
Just finished my first commander night!Went 0-3 but it still was fun.My deck worked very slowly in game 2 and 3 tho, i think it needs to be improved.
>>96457952Like the theme and shit all you want they still printed a legendary creature that cared about haste in a set with only 5 other creatures with haste and one threaten effect.
>>96457969I don't get the joke and or reference.
Monster Hunter doing a collab with a fucking guitar manufacturer before doing one with WotC, not creating the sole UB set i'd even remotely be interested in honestly kinda based, considering the shitfest MtG has become lately
>>96457729I tend to agree I just hate draft formats with only 5 archetypes. Gets boring.
>>96458017I fucking wish I had the time to draftor an LGS where it actually firedI have given some thought to drafting on MTGO but then how am I supposed to build paper edh decks from the cards I draft? If only there was a TTSIM mod for drafting then I could just buy the singles I wanted from my draft pool. >hey anon why not just buy the singles you want and cut out the middle manI find it more exciting to have to play with whatever cards I have opened or drafted. Cracking packs is for suckers so draft is the only really good way to build a collection without just buying all the best stuff and getting instantly bored.
>>96457437Redpill me about Extract. Why don't more people use it? Sounds useful to remove game winners from well optimized decks
>>96457722>>96457809Latinas crave the BWC
>>96454429list?
>>96457722Wow a guy on /tg/ that doesn't go outside, go figure>>96457714Hot dog
>Lorwyn next year>will either barely include Kithkin or drastically change them>will probably change old kino art and make them hobbitsGrim
>>96458009Monster Hunter does collabs with anything because that game is dead in the water
>>96457437imagine exiling good cards from your opponent's library when you can exile bad cards from your own library instead.
>>96458087too low impact in low power games and its just easier and more efficient to try to combo off first rather than maybe screw over 1 opponent in high power games
>>96456490>Sygg theftit's control with some theft spells like breach the multiverse. it's a deck that scales with my opponents
>>96458118This is the latest Kithkin we've seen so... Eh?
>>96457905Really hoping for mono red, expecting Red/Black.
>>96458133still looking for a decent home to run the Mana Severance + Goblin Charbelcher "Combo"
>>96458178>Match of the Machines card>we didn't get to see more cards of Kithkins fighting off Phyrexians Makes me sick
Duskmourn's flavor text was a lot better than in other sets
>>96457905Also Ty Lee
>>96458224:|
>>96457839This isnt "landslop". This is "I always get to swing and have mana up for interaction". Real gutless design.>>96457936Id definitely get one if I could for that price. Just be warned outside of the lands the set boosters dont carry much value.
>>96457905Avatar previews aren't for a while, anon. There's a whole other set.
>>96457437>stax is mentioned >start making up weird fantasiesSeek help
>>96457981Post deck homoanon
>>96458133>>96458198I do this, and I also run opposition agent hivemind with selective memory in my umbris deck
How do you all feel about not-Cosmic Spider-Man.
Barring Spongebob and Spider-Man, what's the worst UB so far?
>>96458087>>96458289Extract is good against losers that run pub stomp decks, so when a cuck runs tiv for example, I extract time sieve and drop vexxing bauble asap for their faggy free counters.
>>96458224
>>96458341damn I wish I had a shit not to give
Reminder that they WILL print us a skeleton commander
>>96458367>>96458289Example: t1 isochron mana drain
>>96458375please just stop with the preconswe need a break its like mh3 every year
>>96458341Looks like an alchemy set.
>>96458367And then everyone clapped
>>96458389Standard is literally on life support right now, WOTC is all in on commander. Its what they want new players to learn the game with.
>>96458382This guy must reslly live rent free in your head because you've posted this picture over 10 times.
>>96458411I know but come onthis format has always been a garbage fire that we have to make fun for ourselvesthis is not a good environment for constant power creep and mass adoption
>>96458341Words can not fully encompass the laughter I am experiencing from seeing this card.>Hmm yes you know how we have that whole Ur-Dragon character that remains a loose end in the plot to this day?>Let's just make an Ur-Spider now who gives a shit lmao
>>96458427Ive posted it 3 times, and it’s an example of pubstompers for how egregious it is and why I have a silver bullet deck.
>>96458437I've seen it more than 3 times and I basically never come hereyou have a problem
>>96458437Does everyone clap when you play it, though?
>>96458363None, because UB isn't a problem it's just something your autistic schizo brain can't handle.
>>96458436Ur-Dragon's just a thing of the Multiverse like Arahbo. There's no 'loose end', they're just sort of primordial origin points for things in the Multiverse. I guess the Ur-Spider is like that too.
>>96458382>a high variance format has some crazy playsimagine my shock
>>96458363Final Fantasy
>>96458440Now who’s making shit up>>96458441It generates the same kind of seethe you are making, the same passive aggressive barbs designed to make coping easier.
>>96458367>>96458382>using a picture thats been posted here for over a year now for your storyLol
in a recent game i had Breena out and a way to draw me a card every time i put one or more counters on a creature. I was amazed how eagerly my opponents did my bidding and rushed to attack each other, getting their lifetotals nice and low into killing range for my buffed creatures - even though i got a whole card and 2 counters out of it each time.Yet when i play retard Rocco, the card my opponents get by just providing me a single counter and a food token is just too steep a price to even worth considering.curiousyou should run Breena if you can, even if she is unrelated to your gameplan. its almost better than a Ghostly Prison
>>96458467>Now who’s making shit upm8, its always been you.
>>96458471>>96458491k
>>96458497Cool you saved this photo on may? Please shut the fuck up no one cares that you got your shit stomped in and no one cares about the epic not at all salty spite deck you made as a result. Fucking hell this is embarrassing behaviour
>>96458517feel free to find it in the archives then, you are just a stupid bitch running your mouth
>>96458538A fedoralord like you isn't worth my time.
>>96458273>dont carry much valueI'm aware. I don't intend to "plus" off the box or anything. I want the cards.I love making cubes and such so I could get a draft box but for $30 more I can get something a bit nicer.
>>96458538>tfw only could find 3 postshmm he might be right. complaining about the board state is dumb but he might be right about the number of posts.
>>96454136Izoni and the blacula are fine.
>>96458341hahahaha this is so fucking stupid why do I like it so much it's so awful
>>96458449>duuude you just cant handle the product oversaturation and constant price increases, while boosters and displays get smaller duuude, its literally healthy for the game whats habbening
>>96458363i would still go with Walking Dead.It was just a monstrous unfitting in-your-face decision, and a total asspull anyways because the show was shitting the bed hard at this point. Including the typical MaRo lies, this stands out as the one that started it all
>>96458363Probably Warhammer.
>>96458341Unironically more interested in it than the real Spider-Man set.
>>96458363its gotta be assassin's creedugly as shit artcompletely full of literally whos
>>96458600>I am being priced out of the game I love and instead of improving my lot in life to keep up, I am going to crash out hard and make my pain everybody else's problem because my parents never taught me coping skills
>>96458636There's some real bangers in Ass Creed desu, and it also has Reconnaissance with the reminder text for an added bonus
>>96457142Why is iron man hanging out with jinzo?
>>96458363There's a couple tied for worst for different reasons.>Brought in the most amount of faggotsFinal FantasySonic>Pushed cards LOTR>Aesthetically ShittyGhostbustersDoctor Who>Sick as Fuck IP but Universe Beyond is still cringeStreet Fighter
>>96458644>i shall consoooom, no questions asked>this is YOUR moral failure, not mine
>>96458676>we will never get a Street Fighter set, or even another SLD with M. Bison and Juri
>>96458644too many cardsnot enough fucks to givethis is bad
>>96458644holy projo-mojo my guy
>>96458687>I'm going to hang around the spaces I used to enjoy and harass people instead of quitting the game that has left me behindDigital equivalent of a bum having a mental health episode at a Wendy's
>>96458705>>96458696Nah baby you just haven't been catered to yet, and with the push for UB it's all but guaranteed to happen.
>>96458711>harassyou take criticism of a billion dollar company far too personally
>>96458711>discussing stances and viewpoints on the general health of the game is harassmentare you being genocided right now?
>>96458720I'm the one who has to be around your seething, go vent anywhere else, then I won't have to see it
>>96458718im the biggest ff fag in this thread, hands down.UB sucksdont project your weak will on me.
>>96458718i want my Moomins UB and i want it yesterday
>>96458732if you dont like it, make like a tree and fuck off
>>96457563This is deeply philosemitic
>>96458738I'll pitch the Moomins/Smurfs/Asterix/Tintin set to MaRo at the next world domination subcommittee meeting
>>96458739It's "make like a tree and leaf" the pun being leaf sounds like leave.
>>96458720dont bully this anon too hard, he is soft enough to just buy what he is told and has to bear different opinions on here, he has it as tough as it can get
>>96458758"WOTC bad" isnt a different opinion its basically the overwhelming opinion of MTG players, which tells me they're about as smart as they are good at MTG
>>96458755I know that you know that I know that you know it's a reference to boondocks saints which is itself a reference to Back to the Future.
>>96458363Sonic. Those characters are hideous.
>>96458766there he is, the supreme gamer welcome back Elliot
>>96458475My playgroup is the opposite. I run Breena and everyone attacks me exclusively.
>>96458644What a wild reply! Less cards for more money is in fact objectively worse
>>96458809Just buy the cards you want anon, its not hard
>>96457981cute rikkaposter
Its always UB this and UB thatmeanwhile all UB does is doing the same mechanics painted juuust different enough to fit the flavor, add in one mabye two format wide chase staples, rinse repeat.at this release and card print rate we need more spell types to keep shit interesting.Give me Pendulum
>>96458821I like opening packs so that doesnt change anything. The game is the worst its been for the consumer in its entire history. You are probably retarded sorry to break it to you.
Can't we all just get along?
>>96458836This is a golden age for pack crackers lmao, there's a thousand chase variants for you to acquire. You're not a lucklet, are you?
>>96458858>golden age for pack crackersmore like golden age for scalpersyou have no point to make, just stop
>>96457177shelob bros we are so back
>>96458834I like mtg as a mechanical game but I love mtg for the art over the years. It's not all great but it is getting worse and UB just a recent contributor to this problem. Not to mention they destroyed the in game universe by printing universes beyond. These are things that just seem to get worse with every set.
>>96458858No, I haven't paid for a pack in a long time I often boast about it in this thread actually. That still does not change my point which you have dodged multiple times now I accept your concession. Also more variants is actually bad but I wouldn't expect a retard to understand that
>>96458858>This is a golden age for pack crackersonly if you buy crazy expensive collector packs desu. play boosters require you to get an insane pull to make up the cost.
>>96458871>>96458880>>96458889To reiterate:>I am being priced out of the game I love and instead of improving my lot in life to keep up, I am going to crash out hard and make my pain everybody else's problem because my parents never taught me coping skills
I can't find a copy of Heroic Intervention. I know I have a second copy. I bought the precon it came in. I don't sell my cards. I've looked in all my green decks. All of the decks I'd put it in are cataloged and updated meticulously. I found the copy of Eternal Witness I'd been looking for but no Heroic Intervention. I'm going fucking insane.
>>96458905oh noes, xir is feeling harassed again :(
>>96457714IT WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO BE A STUPID MEME
>>96458908Do you have a trade binder? Check behind your slotted in cards, maybe you slipped it in there.
>>96458840
>>96458905this is exactly the kind of schizo post that should not be replied to in this thread. he makes outlandish posts like this every day and you mother fuckers keep replying
>>96458908I had this with a misty rainforest the other day. Had to give my friend my fancy one the other day since I promised him one for his birthday. Now I have to buy a new fancy one :^(
>>96458931eeh, youre right anon.anything ordered lately? i finally pulled the trigger and got me my Mono Blue Urza for my Azorius artifact pile. Should power it up good
this card gets worse every time I look at it
>>96458931They can't help themselves, all you have to do is call someone ITT poor or mentally ill and its guaranteed replies
>>96458300I posted it before here, it was this! (minus the tutor cus the seller never shipped it)>moxfield.com/decks/LLuMKJd7f0CXlrTY0njDyA
Okay I decided a mono color deck to build
>>96458981xhe needs to cost 1 less for primal prayers
>>96458938I havent bought anything since last standard rotation. I am slowly getting a small list together. I am really just enjoying brewing with the cards I have and putting up a good fight with my shitpiles vs my brother in laws edhrec tier FOTM decks.
>>96458947pic related is lowkey better than both the rare and the mythic angel.
>>96458981Well it certainly will be a green deck, I hope you have fun.
>>96458431If WOTC cared about the health of the format they wouldn't be rushing out 6 sets a year. Like every other corporation hasbros goal is short term profits at the cost of long term stability. With MTG being their only profitable product at the moment.
>>96459054No, WotC actually thinks about long-term health more than any other company. That's why they're so cautious about bans and reprints. YGO died because cards would get banned and reprinted like crazy. Pokemon is only alive because they don't ban cards and have a huge collector market for rare prints. WotC knows that a stable format is important and people want their cards to retain their value long-term.
>>96459034I want to build junk 1-drop tribal, but I don't want to run karador...
>>96458938NTA, but I'm getting a regal force for my mono green stompy deck, and I'm getting magical hack for my storm deck so I can put typhoon in as a win con for flavor
This set feels so pointless from a gameplay perspective. Its filled with a ton of cards that feel like they only exist for their flavor as spider-man adaptations into MTG, but that are also so weak that they won't have a place in 60 card formats or even in most EDH tables, save for people who really, really want to make spider man decks. This really should have been a commander product so they could push the powerlevels a bit higher and be more focused with the designs
>>96459090YGO is dying because its unbelievable powercreep turned the entire game into a retarded parody of itself where 99% of games can just be decided by comparing opening hands.
>>96454123why the fuck is Blink so busted in casual?it really puts the typical Simic fuckery to shame>main gameplan doubles as interaction protection>usually in Azorius, which has the easiest time protecting their shit anyways>Azorius also is the indisputed combo stopper>main gameplan easily makes all boardwipes you play asymetrical>ETB value has gotten insanely powerful in general>you quickly outvalue almost anything your opponents do>old blink legendaries like Brago still hold up, new ones like picrel are straight up degenerate, completely laughing at Brudiclads face for being 6 manawhat is more easy mode in casual than Blink? the only thing that comes to mind is maybe lands, possibly even surpassing Flickert. touches my pod inappropiatly in places they didn't even know yet
new Opp dropped
>>96459090>long-term health
>>96459090I wish I shared your optimism. I just don't see how the facts line up with your worldview.
>>96459158yorion is a pirate king
>>96459147No, the problem was that cards would get banned constantly so there was no stable meta and if you owned a valuable card it could be reprinted in a precon at any time making it worthless. WotC doesn't do this because they know that most buyers are collectors that want their cards to retain their value instead of randomly becoming worthless because they were all banned or printed into the ground.>>96459171One mistake made by a legacy player and only impacted modern. Nobody was actually playing Nadu in commander.
>>96459200Yorion is beatiful
> Nobody was actually playing Nadu in commander.
>>96459232How many people play cEDH at your LGS? Oh, none? Yeah nobody was playing Nadu either.
>>96459232but they did, and still do
>>96459223No that's not the issue. The bans in YGO can be annoying but the core issue is that the game is just extremely terrible now and has been for years.
>>96459223>Nobody was actually playing Nadu in commander.>mysteriously banned in commanderenvironmental story telling
>>96459276The game is terrible because of its unstable meta. There's no pressure to innovate. Instead players just ask for bans and reprints so the whole game changes every few months instead of slowly evolving.
>>96459288Mike motherfucking Mateii wander what commanders he would play
>I don't like thing, only "peeple" like thing!>SLOOOOOP!Find a more intelligent way to formulate your criticism for fuck sake.
>>96459288How many people are playing Braids and Coalition Victory now that they're unbanned, hmm? The banlist is meaningless. The 2024 bans were a huge mistake because they took longstanding staples like Mana Crypt and banned them just for the sake of destabilizing the game, which is what killed YGO.
>>96459315i certainly heavily dislike you shitty post it reads like slop
>>96459326>How many people are playing Braids and Coalition Victory now that they're unbanned, hmm? The banlist is meaningless.Those cards were banned in 2009 you disingenuous cunt.
>>96459194Magic survived for over 30 years this way. That's a fact.
>>96459348I don't see how this post is related to your other one, past performance is not indicative of future results. MTG can coast for a very long time on momentum alone, that does not mean they care or even know enough to care about the game's health.
>>96459308Brown Brick infinite loopGadget TribalLoco Bandito Theft
>>96459348No they haven't? The last 5 years have been entirely different than the first 25. They did not survive by acting this way, we will have to see if it can produce long term results.
>>96459341Mana Crypt was printed in 1994 and mysteriously only caused issues in 2024. This is YGO banlist behavior creeping into Magic which is why WotC took control away from the RC. WotC knows that you don't appease whiny retards just to shake up the meta. You need to let it slowly and organically evolve over time so that when people buy cards they know they'll be playable for a long time instead of randomly getting banned.
>>96459326I wake up every day and am happy crypt is gone. Took it out of my decks with glee. Sure the format is completely unrecognizable due to the constant printing of commander cards but at least smart threat assessment can dig you out of a lot of situations. There's not a lot you can do about someone hitting the gas faster than you can respond.
>>96454903>Your favorite Mono-ColorRED>Your favorite Dual-ColorGolgari is based af>Your favorite Tri-ColorI love 3-color control, Esper, Jeskai, Bant, Grixis are all great, I like them equally but uhhh I guess Jeskai>What you're listening tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdLnOoBYpuo>Your age25>Your favorite deck to playpic related, I love this deck so much but I only play it every once in a while since its not that popular amongst my pod>A commander you're interested in but haven't built yetThe Gitrog, Ravenous Ride>Why you haven't built it yetI'm not made of money
>>96459168Is it bad that I like this art? I'm not even a Spider-Man fan, this just looks nice.
>>96459372>mysteriously only caused issues in 2024bait lmao
>>96459359>They're doing the same thing they always have! That's a bad thing!>>96459371>They're doing something completely new! That's a bad thing!Make up your mind. You just wanna bash WotC because you're new and don't know they're actually way smarter than you think.
>>96459368I would addBeamtown BulliesTergriedRakdos, Lord of Riotsa random from the first Summon Legends old border deck
>>96459383You can like things without approval from us autistics anon
>>96459394see, you are being too obvious with your bait posts, you have to respond in a way that people actually believe you are unhinged or stupid.
>>96459376>>96459387It's called a format staple, retard. Part of what makes commander the format everyone fell in love with was games sometimes having variation. That's why sol ring is in every precon. Part of what made the format different was how you could sometimes get a fast start and sometimes had to play against them. Mana Crypt was part of the game for 30 years and wasn't an issue at all, but for some reason the RC decided it was suddenly an issue in 2024 because they listened to YGO players that just want to autistically play solitaire and do the same thing every single game instead of adapting.
>>96459432>wasn't an issue at all
>>96459444Well I guess we should ban all lands because every deck runs them so therefore they're a big problem!
>>96459432The banning of Dockside Extortionist and it's consequences has been a disaster for the human race.
>>96456898WHAT THE FUCKWHAT THE FUCK
>>96459432>it wasn't an issue at all>except the constant calls for it to be bannedgo back through the RC forum and announcements, MC was mentioned a lot. Sol ring is a pretty similar problem but with crypt banned it solves two problems. The first is the relatively low supply of crypt vs sol ring and the second is fast mana density. one sol ring is arguably good for the format for the reasons you listed but having two on top of the other lesser but still impactful fast mana rocks created an environment where fast mana was seen in every game. That is not variability.
>>96459432>Mana Crypt was part of the game for 30 years and wasn't an issue at all>Which is why its banned in legacy and restricted to a 1 of in vintage>Because it wasn't ever an issue or a problematic card
>>96459452>i keep pretending to be retarded you'll believe me right guys
>>96459471Commander isn't legacy or vintage retard. It's a different format which is why it has a different banlist. Ragavan is banned in legacy does that mean we should ban him from commander even though he does nothing in the format?
i just want to do "my thing".if i didnt do it, i will be mad.it doesnt matter that "my thing" is relentlessly smashing your face in and then comboing off, just in case. you are just an asshole for stopping me in my tracks
>>96459432>autistically play solitaire>btw crypt shouldn't have been bannedyou do realize these are the same thing, right?
The average commander player would be happier playing Wingspan or some other multiplayer solitaire engine building board game.
>>96459534I am fortunate enough that in 15 years of playing I have never run into a my thing person in real life. It must be a coastal thing.
>>96459545oh yeah and battlecruiser boomers are SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better. Delusion.
>>96459526>Say its never been a problem>Point it has been>BUT IT HASN'T BEEN FOR COMMANDER! WHY WOULD YOU BE BRINGING UP NOT COMMANDER WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE SPAN OF MAGIC'S HISTORY!>WHAT DO YOU MEAN COMMANDER HASN'T BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS?! NO, YOU'RE THE RETARD!Clown. They've known its a retardly powerful card for a long time, it just took the RC way to fucking long to get with the program.
>>96459547i think a salty underlying tone like this is definitely there, especially among EDH-only beginners i have played with
Why do we fight amongst ourselves when the real enemy is WotC? Do we not know that historically tyranny was upheld by the leader keeping their lackeys infighting?
>>96459584because it's funwe aren't really fighting, we just make up bad arguments and reply to ourselves in increasingly catty waysbitch
>>96459591Except there are people here who are dead serious.
>>96459598at least 4 of those people are just me
>>96459598you dont know that for sure, unless you are talking about yourself, schizo
>>96459606no they aren't! I am definitely really real!
>>96459158I've been enjoying Omega as a blink deck. I really wanted to make it work somehow and turns out ramping a bunch with green then flickering, cloning, and copying triggers with blue's kit is pretty serviceable.
>>96456898This feels like a modern horizons card, but its in standard.
>>96459622BUY THE SET, YOU SHITTER!
>>96459540>Adapting to whoever gets a fast start is the same thing as playing solitaire>>96459574>I-It just took the RC a long time to figure it out!I guess no cards were banned between 1994 and 2024 if they weren't able to blindly copy the legacy banlist until then.
>>96459432Imagine thinking Mana Crypt's ban was to the benefit of solitaire Yugioh players instead of actively harming them.
>>96459632its ok to admit you don't actually play the game
>>96459630Standard is kill, I am not wasting money on it.
>>96459651>my dad when he walks by my room in the morning on his way to work and wonders why I am still living at home at 35
>>96459632>I guess no cards were banned between 1994 and 2024 if they weren't able to blindly copy the legacy banlist until then.Oh, you're actually just a retard grasping at straws to make any argument what-so-ever.My mistake, enjoy this last (you) you waste of time.
I will be proxying the universes within version of this.
>>96459632Fast mana's value scales based on what you can spit out early. Crypt was clearly becoming more of a problem as more cards were being printed that could take over a game early. It's why Dockside and Jewlo went with it. These early explosive sources of mana with no real cost are game warping.
>>96459664>finally get a perfect card to add to my Breena group slug deck>it's in a fucking capeshit setI wonder if printing companies like MPC are experiencing an uptick.
>>96456658Did doc ock ever kill everyone in NYC?
>>96459706breena's luck
>>96459723of course not, dont ask questionscunt
>>96459632>I guess no cards were banned between 1994 and 2024Yes, there were no commander bans from 1994 through 2011 because until 2011 it wasn't an officially recognized format.Why do you keep bringing up magics original release date when it has no bearing on commander when commander wasn't viewed by WotC as a thing until 2011 with their first precons?You seem massively under qualified to be engaging in this discussion.
>>96459695>>96459749Nta but that reasoning is a joke>Eternal format with access to almot every card in the games history>Old cards will now be banned based on the retarded power creep of the new cards>Instead of carefully planned and tested new designs we'll just push out a bunch of slop from here on out and if any of it breaks old cards then the old cards get banned instead of the new ones because the new cards are chases.Yeah I don't really vibe with this WOTC shill-cuck mentality.Mana Crypt was a format staple for nearly 2 decades.Engage in any jewish mental gymnastics you want banning that card was retarded.
>>96459090Yugioh is dying because it's a meme boomer anime game full of rocket tag power creep cards and unlike MtG the fanbase never created a popular Commander variant to save it from itself when everyone playing it realized 1v1 competitive card games where you can pay to win and design mistakes get printed every set are extremely stupid and got tired of wasting time and energy on what's supposed to be a hobby, not your fucking job.And Magic is going the exact same route. Commander bought the game a decade or two but the inevitable power creep and pace of releases is going to burn out the majority of the playerbase whose existence doesn't revolve around consooming a trading card game.
>>96459774>NTA>BuzzwordsRun along kid.
>>96459774>Mana Crypt was a format staple for nearly 2 decades>When commander has only existed officially for 14 years
>>96459706Not yet because the cards aren't out, but they will once scryfall gets its hand on all the UW versions.
>>96459295>>96459276Neither of you retards actually know anything and are both wrong.>They'll be upset that collector value will tankNobody playing the game actually gives a fuck about that. We are actively begging for konami to reprint staple cards, namely the charmies, and thank fuck we're getting them in this year's big reprint set called the mega tins. You're just completely wrong here.People that come in to treat the game as some sort of investment are promptly told to KYS because we see what kinds of retards it attracts. These people are a blight and add nothing to the value of the game. Source: Mana Crypt and co ban.Seeing how you're trying to view the game through the lens of money and you don't know shit I think it proves the point too.>The game is DEAD!This is a statement made by people that don't know jack shit about the game and want to make clickbait for worse than secondaries.NAWCQ (NA nats) was as populated as ever. I can say that because I was there.Worlds wrapped up just this weekend and went well in the sense that it wasn't a shitshow like previous years. I'm sure you've at least seen the awful office rooms they had it in the prior year.>muh powercreepThis hardly means anything if you ask me. We see blatent and aggressive powercreep here in magic yet the sky isnt falling.There is no "slowly evolving" meta because the TCG (the West because I know you dont know fuck all) gets to see cards almost 3 months ahead of release and by day 1 of the paper game people have already figured out how to optimize things as well as take notes from the OCG (the East) meta being played out. You probably never see this because you don't know anything about the game and your content with just making shit up and making wild guesses.You want something that's a problem? That release gap is the problem, people have worn out the meta before it even starts in paper. We want that fixed, trust me.
>>96459733I have to wonder if they could have worded her in a less clunky way
>>96459820brief cont.And this problem and perceived problem is really only with the TCG side of things because it accounts for the majority of the global player base who speak a language you understand. When was the last time you asked or looked at what an OCG player how yugioh is doing? Probably never because you probably don't know there's a distinction or region split.>BansSimilar root of the problem as the above. The TCG side has already been playing and testing the card pool for 3 months at paper release. By the time we would expect a banlist related to those cards release months down the road from then you have to factor in those extra 3 months where people have optimized that pool from the get go. If something is a problem, it was figured out months ago and is global knowledge, but we're all forced to play with it for months until it's addressed as if those 3 months didn't exist.
>>96459432>part of what made the format different...No? That wasnt it at all
>>96459820>>96459941Seething yugitard.
>>96459820None of your arguments had anything to do with what i said so idk why you quoted me.YGO is shit because it's largely decided on turn -1, if your opponent has his combo starter and you don't have an out then it's already over.And if you don't scoop immediately then you have to sit through an unbelievably boring 15 minute combo every match, it's just not a fun game.
>>96459584what do you mean, I do fight WotC. In the past 5 years, my decks have gone from 10% of the decks' net worth being proxied to more than 50% now. And it will continue to grow if they don't turn their shit around.
you guysarehomosalso my commander is the best commander
>>96460172no mine is
>>96460172Nuh uh, mine is.
>>96459790>accused of being wotc cuck-shill>all but confirms it by implying you don't recognize a format until it's officially sanctioned by Wizards.Fucking queer.
>>96459432I have Sol Ring in 0% of my decks. My friends still run shit like Mana Crypt in their decks. I beat them regularly because they're shitters despite my deck being at an inherent disadvantage because of their pushed cards.As shit as the brackets are, it's a system we've desperately needed for years. It needs to be way more robust and specific. Gamechangers and vibes are too vague and cowardly. Mana Crypt and other banned cards are perfectly fine...in Bracket 4/5, so just label them as that. Every commonly used card needs its own bracket rating, ie Sol Ring is Bracket 3 minimum, if you put it in your decks you have a bracket 3 deck no ifs ands or buts. But we'll never get a sensible system like that under WOTC. And the RC were too shortsighted to think of it.
>>96459785>muh buzzwords>actually just a dumb faggot who got mentally mogged and has no coherent reaponse.
>>96460014What, do you want me to quote every single post in the reply chain? I'm addressing the larger conversation or did you not remember any of the garbage you typed?>the game is over from the startComparing it to magic's standard for a fair comparison. I feel like that sentiment applies there as well.I hope you found the answer(s) to my vivi cauldron bro because your ass is done for otherwise. The feeling is about the same except magic gives you fake turns to trick your brain into thinking you're getting out of it for several minutes while I jerk off vivi in my game of solitare you sometimes have something pointless to say or cast.
>>96460242>anything that disagrees with me ill handwave as Jewish mental gymnastics btw>u got mogged doe
>>96460288There's a Yuioh thread up right now.Why are you even here?Ah let me guess because there's only like 5 people who ever post in YGO threads because the game is trash and nobody plays it or engages with content about it.>Wee little Yugi-cel got a little desperate for human interaction and had to siddle on over to a real card game thread.
>>96460172Your shins are gonna get so punched.
>>96460288I mean yeah standard is ass too that's why this is the EDH thread.It's definitely nowhere as decided by opening hands as YGO is tho.
>>96460242God damn, you love to cry don't you kid?
Yeah, I'll spend $5 on a single UBsloppa card instead of buying a SL
>>96459706I would say just replace the art but it would still be called parker luck lmao
>turn 4>dark ritual>cast pic rel, table seethes, promises of beating me>turn 5>fractured sanitybracket 4 or 3?
>>964604472
Are you based enough to run the God sword?
>>96460447bracket 5
>>96460421There's a guy at my LGS that plays him as his commander. He has long greasy hair and awful teeth.
>>96460172My commander is the queen of making losers tilt, cope and seethe. It is known.
Is it just me or have commander seen an influx of standard/modern spergs coming in tainting the games with their 'no one should have fun but me' mindset?
What are some good rakdos cards that dissuade people from going at me?Whether it's threatening blockers, stuff that punishes people for targeting me or something like picrel, anything helps.
>>96460479>It is knownCan you not make lame ass GOT references while trolling? As a fellow Tifa player it's embarassing.Thanks sweetheart, appreciate it.
>>96460455Yes.
>>96460484Standard has been decimated by Vivi so I wouldn't be surprised if the spergs were 'jumping ship" until bans come down
>>96460441Betal
>>96460522Ok
>>96460568>winking>both eyes closeis this a meme?
>>96460568She looks like she fucks dogs
>>96460604That's a strange thing to say.
>>96460498stuffydoll and brash taunter
>>96460479LET ME WASH YOUR FEET, MY QUEEN!
>>96460455Of course, it's in my (very uncreative) indestructible voltron deck
>>96460717
>>96460455It encourages players to block(and face stiff penalties) in pic relatedIf they don't phasing/teferi's/indestructible keeps sensei and wipes the field.
>>96457403Does kinda look like him. That one's alright, he's from Dominaria's version of Africa (Jamuraa).
tajic but it's the alchemy version
>>96460379Because I also enjoy magic. You know you can enjoy more than one game at a time right? Or did WOTC make you sign a contract to suck their dick exclusively.Imagine doing console war type of shit still to this day. Get over it, more than one enjoyable thing can exist.>>96460406I'm aware. I only bring it up because the 4 player dynamics and very casual mentality don't translate to many other games/formats even between commander and standard.I agree it's not as decided but often times standard games feel very determined from your starting hand and if you're going first. There's plenty of shit hands and when you get them it's like an accident in slow motion. Both games can feel like this while you also have games where you are in the driver's seat and just roll your opp.This is just card games at their core.
lowkey she cute
What was the website like Scryfall that allowed you to sort cards in a set by foil price? I thought I had it saved, guess not.
>>96460498Kazuul is red's Propaganda. There's also Koskun falls and generic deathtouchers.
>>96460872Mtggoldfish?
Huh?
>>96460907Well, at least he's not a Deflecting Palm
>>96460907Huh. I can see a flicker deck where you just save up a bunch of cards in exile and then wait for removal/board wipe, and then get a shitload of stuff back. Sounds neat
>>96460991Would it work like that though? Wouldn't the cards be exiled forever if you flickered him?
>>964571431000%that card needs an errata and reprint to curse.like what the fuck are the designers even doin at wotc does BBC pandering all that matters !
>>96460901No. It's a similar layout though. I'm not seeing the foil price sort option on the MTGGoldfish.
>>96460998Hm. I actually don't know, because he doesn't say "return the cards exiled by him", only "return the exiled cards". You might be right
>>96461008
Card quality wise, this has to be the worst set since murders right?
>>96461031Thanks anon. Always hidden in some bullshit menu instead of out in the open where you can see or search for it.
>>96461031Jeez, what the hell is Quantum Riddler doing? I still need one for my Unesh deck...
>>96461028These sets are planned out years in advance, retard.
Spiderman is going to sell like crack in Compton btw
>>96461047Sure, shill.
>>96461003uhm... le <mechanic> wasn't present in the set aside from that one card... so we didn't put it on the card because uhm.. uh..
>>96461012The text implies cards exiled by himself for that specific instance. There's no stockpile potential based on how Im reading it.
Who's the best Commander for a deck built around 1-2 mana creatures? I'm tired of durdling every game, I want to be dumping 1-2 creatures out reliably every single turn and reviving them with the cheap mass resurrections aimed at lower mana/power creatures.
>>96461062I'm thinking Karador...
This set should have had plot and crimes. Are we sure Outlaws wasn’t a UB set they retrofitted into Magic? Saddle doesn’t make sense in Marvel though.
>>96461062Teshar
>>96461081Lmao
>playing aggro raffine>guy to my left is on some 5c control>has been constantly resetting the board and hands all game with balancing act>I've been hitting him with a buffed up raffine that I've held onto since he's had to use removal on the nikya player>he has a notion thief out to steal my draws>swing for lethal commander damage>5c inkshields it >animatou player counterspells the inkshield >5c goes on a rant about how he's kingmaking and packs up>neither nikya or animatou dig themselves out of their topdecking and I just draw into card advantage and roll them overwell I guess 5c was a bit right after all
>>96457729I hate wedges.Capenna was a cool idea fucked by real-world events and corporate cowardice
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>>96461124Delete this
>>96457729Capena has always been cool. Good theming and some neat mechanics in those themes. I'm not sure if I'd want them to come back to it though. After the weird changes to Tarkir I shudder to think what they'd do to Capena now. Already it looked like they were doing weird shit with Ob Nixilis killing Xander while he was fucking around.
>>96461055Traditionally, most Magic sets only used a handful of keyword mechanics, and WotC didn't want to overpromise "OH SHIT Surveil is in this set? HYPE, can't wait to see eleven other Surveil cards!" and have it be a one card cameo.Since then they have realized most enfranchised players don't think that way, and have allowed cameos as needed per set.Grievous Wound has no reason to be a curse flavorwise btw
>>96461057A shame. The idea is super neato
>>96461055This has been errata’d to say surveil.>>96461144Maybe not flavor wise, however I think it should be considered a curse as a part of the magic of the gathering metanarrative.
>>96460907>If you doThis looks like it really screws him up. You can't even cheat this with effects like Not Dead After All because of how it's worded, can you?
Based or cringe?
I keep bandying about the concept of an oops all creatures golgari deck so I can run the companion. I've made a couple different lists but none of them have felt particularly inspired.Can you post your favorite Golgari cards? They don't have to be creatures, post anything as long as it's BG.
>>96461181Is there space in Magic for negative enchant players that are not curses? What is it if not physical player damage vs curses magical player damage?
>>96461230pretty neutral. if I had to pick one, I'd have to say cringe, but its not that bad, honestly. I've played against it a couple of times and didn't have a bad time.
>>96461230My first commander. I haven't played her in a while, I'm going to have to tighten up the list a bit and bring her to my next commander night.
>>96461240I have all creatures Savra. It's a fun deck that's on the lower end of power thanks to the restriction. Unfortunately I've never had a chance to cast Umori, the 3 mana to put in hand just makes it too slow.
>>96458718I don’t understand this mindset. You really think that anyone who enjoys the works of Tolkien must, by definition, like a product that shoehorns his work into an unfitting ruleset? I have an entire bookcase dedicated to his works, from The Hobbit to his poetry, and I have refused to spend even a single cent on the abomination that was the UB set. Same as I would refuse to buy a Thunderbolt Fantasy or any other property that I have enjoyed: I’m not such a media-addicted whore that I have to buy the Funko Pops and any other product that happens to feature something I enjoyed in another context.
All counter spells should be game changers.Makes no sense that deflecting swat is one but mana drain isn't.
>>96461358Freecast is magnitudinally stronger than some extra colorless mana
>>96461194Or he's just repeatable hard exile removal on a stick, which is not bad.
>>96461369Extra colorless mana + your opponent potentially lost an entire turn
>>96461358>Mana Drain is busted therefore every counterspell isTruly insightful thoughts, Timmy. You know PBlast and REB are still legal, right? Surely 1 mana isn't too much for you to hold up.
>>96461377Yeah they can all go, they're not all busted but they're all badly designed and unfun (which is the entire point of playing this game).
>>96461375lol
>>96461386Owned, slave.
>>96461384Okay I vote we ban the entire color red because burn combos and rituals are unfun.
>>96461397Okay but you're wrong.
>>96461124Love this little guy.
>>96461384If counterspells didn't exist everyone would run purely ramp, tutors and combo and games would consistently end on turn 3-4 unless someone played stax
>>96461437They surely would in tryhard brackets, which is where most counterspells should be relegated to!
>>96461437So nothing would change?
>>96461399No YOU'RE wrong
>>96461437this is what a lot of my lgs is already like and they cry about every form of interaction not just counters
>>96461456Trvke desu. Kinda sad that even at casual tables someone will get a god hand and ramp in to a 8 mana threat on like turn 3.>>96461470And they're faggots. I run counterspell/fierce guardianship in all my blue decks minimum, and my mono blue has a 12 card counter package.
>c-counterspells are okay, they're just blues removal!!Other removal doesn't prevent ETBs.Other removal is most commonly card-type specific.Other removal needs to deal with hexproof, shroud, protection etc.Counterspells are a disproportionately anti-fun mechanic because they bypass so many game mechanics that other colors have to interact with. Bluefags essentially play a whole different game from everyone else and at the expense of everyone else's enjoyment.
>>96461489>etbsThis is balanced by being the only time counters can be used.>card type specificSame with removal. Both counters and removals have 30 years of history to draw from which is why in edh you see lots of low cost counter spell. Even then though a number of the free ones arent any spell.>protectionThis is fair but cast triggers and cant be countered, although rare do exist and the ladder is becoming more common.>whingingOkay
>image limit reached new thread when
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>>96461489Welcome to Magic the Gathering, new friend! Every color is good at something. Blues strong suits are card draw, counterspells, artifact synergies, and unconditional extra turns. It generally falls behind on creature stats, ramp and destroy/exile effects. Hope that helps!
>>96458676>>GhostbustersI didn't even remember this one.Who the fuck is out there pretending to care about Ghostbusters?
>>96459223>One mistake
>>96459584because some are defending them, thus disagreeing with (you) fundamentally
>>96455683Yes, I proxy my cards in the edition I like most.
>>96460455I run it in basically any white deck that has mass blink/phasing. It's one of the funniest wincons and is also great removal bait.
