Previous Thread: >>96454123>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Post your favorite commander and let other anons judge it.
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>>96461518TQ
I think this set might actually be very stupid you guys
>>96461518TQ: I love him
>>96461538everyone always forgets the white counters
>>96461541Your favorite card in the 99 is Panglacial Wurm.
>>96461544Like, what exactly is the vision here?
>>96459820Nobody gives a fuck about collector value because Konami crashed it all. You retards continue to eat shit and have the worst product design in the entire industry and you're too stupid to realize how hard you're being double dipped when tins come out, especially with the current ones reprinting the only good cards in even less accessible slots. And yes, the game is fucking dead. Locals all over have swapped to alternative games and stores are mostly done with the product line after a year of dud sets and predatory double dipping. Regional and higher tournaments get more attendance because you can't play at your local shop. I know because my region (which used to be an anchor of the East coast) has such shit locals attendance that regionals are the only place people can get tournaments that aren't Edison. Power creep is pernicious and completely unchecked. The banlist is the only check and it's used to sell product first and foremost. If you can't see how badly you're being hosed by power creep in the span of a single year you're not worth talking to on any subject related to gaming.Anyway, Yugioh sucks ass and people don't care about it anymore. I don't even care about the context of this post but I will never miss a chance to shit on that dogshit game. EDH.
>>96461549I only play good colors
>>96461541You wear a cage.>TQI cant stop gooning to her.
Do people actually sperg out about things in the game irl?I haven't had that experience yet and tbdesu it's hard for me to imagine what kind of subhuman would get nasty just because someone plays the game in a way they don't like, even though i do think certain card archetypes (counterspells..) are degenerate and badly designed.
>>96461550No its winter orb
>>96461556white is the best!
>>96461564Kys fag
>>96461574You're right but this thread is about Magic
>>96461555>WotC makes online sim for their card game>It's so bad that it revives paper play and people label it as not even a real version of the game>Konami makes online sim for their card game>It's so good it kills paper play and people use it as the definitive way to play the game
>>96461518>TQ: Post your favorite commander and let other anons judge it.I just think Myr are neat. And it was my first "create a bunch of tokens" deck so I am very fond of it
>>96461578If Master Duel had an ingame chat and the ability to rematch randoms it really would be the perfect client.
>>96461576shut up and pay your taxes niggy!
>>96461578And both found a way to be as jewish as possible. It just took Konami awhile to figure out they could make money by making every playable card an ultra.
>>96461578I gotta be honest, I'd be pissed if the definitive version of mtg was digital I like holding my cards
>>96461518
>>96461549>they finally get the 7th land they've been waiting on>excitedly tap out everything for some big ass spellThey never see it coming.
>>96461591Arena is the best way to play Standard as it is. No one fucking plays that shit IRL lmao
TQ
>TQI like Graveyard Reanimator and I like Jund. Simple as.
>>96461518>TQThe manThe mythThe legendSyr KonCHAD
>>96461602Straight up the only time I see/hear it being played at the LGS is during qualifier season. It's always modern/casual games outside of commander with the random vintage/legacy dudes here and there
>>96461602It makes more sense for a rotating format, when I played modern, I played with mostly the same cards for years on end. I loved holding them and looking at them. Id probably have quit much sooner if it was online
>TQI'd die for him, I'd kill for him, either way what bliss
>>96461538Thanks for the extra turn, blue sissy
>>96461538>Fierce guardianshipTranny card.
>>96461694Knowing it makes you specifically mald just makes me want to play it more.
https://archidekt.com/decks/15743319/in_fightingI was told that this is a 4, and it's a cancer deck and to fuck off
>>96461694Can I offset this by also using Terese FoW?
>>96461705>102 cardsIt's not a 4 anon. It's not legal.
>>96461705>every single swamp is a different printingThis annoys my autism. Other than that, looks like a really fun deck to play against for chaos shenanigans
>>96461705The UBslop is gay as fuck, but some of the interaction you have is niche enough to piss off midwits which is funny. Hitting em with the Imp's Mischief and Withering Boon is a move I love to do.
>>96461518>TQ
>>96461630trip back on
>>96461518>tq
>>96461518>TQ: Post your favorite commander and let other anons judge it.Is it amazing? Probably not. Do I like playing spooky face down cards? Yes. Hell yes. Hell fucking yes.
>>96461882>Free creature + free 1 card drawHuh, neat. What kind parlor tricks does it pull off?
>>96461884They're in the fucking trees.
>>96461882can be anything from just slapping down morphs, using the new manifest dread to dump lands and get landfall going or at the most powerful reducing all morph costs to 0 and infinitely drawing and sacing morphs until everyone is dead
>>96461905>most powerful reducing all morph costs to 0 and infinitely drawing and sacing morphs until everyone is deadElaborate. What cards pull this awesome shit off?
>>96461882What an interesting commander and engine+ sultai too. I just can't think of any good morph creatures that are worth spamming that would be good in EDH
>>96461923BRINE ELEMENTAL
>>96461913semblance anvil, cloud key, ugin, dream chisel etc
>>96461555>product sucksIf it means anything the community at large completely agrees about products, myself included. Nobody (player, collectors, etc) likes it and the only sets to do well in recent times have been the Rarity Collections because they follow a model that's actually enjoyable to open, gives you fun foils, and the card pool is good. While just about every other product does in fact suck.It seems to be that product has continued in this model and only gotten more stale because it's not supposed to be opened by regular people, it's designed for singles sellers to open a ton of and make up a singles inventory.The community blames the rat bastard Kevin Tewart and his fucking Clown Gas TM.>tinsThe whole tin thing we see every year. No matter how many times people whine about "But it's high rarity in the tin too!" it's met with a sub $20 pricetag a month or so after they drop. That really doesn't mean anything.>deadJust as >>96461578 says. Master duel has basically absorbed most of the local level players for one reason or another like time, selective social interaction, youtuber coverage, money, and so on. Only reason edison is still in paper is because konami is retarded and won't make proper translation of edison. Which is good IMO, they should keep shooting themselves in the foot here and stay away.That all said, this doesn't mean the game is dead. The players still exist, just transfered.I feel like Arena did the same thing for standard players, standard locals has basically all dried up and it's exclusively EDH now.>powercreepWe all know when powercreep is happening, welcome to games and being at the whim of suits. We all suffer from it. Does magic getting these bans not concern you too? Or do you need more reasons to buy Vivis?Besides that the best decks are there because of floodgates(prison) cards printed eons ago and are the cards people want banned. People are enjoying the format otherwise. Or is enjoyment a foreign concept for you?
>>96461923Willbender and Kheru Spellsnatcher make some fun stuff happen. Icefeather Aven and Ainok Survivalist provide utility in the slot that normally would be taken by instants.It's not a perfect strategy. It's just fun to load my board with traps and see who wants to challenge them.>>96461930You can reduce the cost of casting your colorless creatures, but there is nothing in the entire game that can reduce a morph cost.Getting free flips isn't impossible though.
>>96461945the point isn't flipping them if you build Kadena that way, it's getting free carddraw and value.Missy works in a similar way as a morph commander
jerma
>>96461966>Another dumpster fire in the rare slot because WotC thinks this passes for removal in any format
>>96461966Ok card but trash art and webslinging is a garbage keyword ability
>>96461976countering a triggered ability seems nice at least
>>96461882Still pissed face-down cards/morph got no support in dragonstorm
>>96462025They got a bunch of tools in Duskmourn though
>>96462027And in MKM sure but I was really expecting tarkir to be the big capstone for a series of new FDC support and was surely disappointed. The set was fine and the support from Murders and Duskmourne was very good but still
>>96461923Don't just think about morph creatures. Think BIGGER>>96461945>can't reduce the cost of morphsI'm going to assume you mean the flip up part of morph costs here. While that's technically true, it's also not. Etrata Deadly Fugitive grants an activated ability to all your facedowns to flip up for 2UB which can be cost reduced with god ol Training Grounds or is just straight up cheaper than whatever it normally is.As an added bonus, if you have face downs that can't normally flip up like a sorcery it lets you cast them. This also lets you cast big sorceries at instant speed if you can set it up.
>>96461518You know what's better than an Avenger of Zendikar? Like 7 of them with their own ETBs.
>>96461935>The whole tin thing we see every year. No matter how many times people whine about "But it's high rarity in the tin too!" it's met with a sub $20 pricetag a month or so after they drop. That really doesn't mean anything.It means something when the format changes like it has over the past few years. No promos and massively inflated set lists (400 last year and 450 this year with high concentrations in the upper rarities vs. 270-ish a few years ago with most of the set being in low rarity to avoid diluting the pool) make this a worse problem than even a few years ago when the tins actually would tank cards down to $10 max. They've fucked their model even worse than it used to be. It used to be that initial release was unattainable but tins would mass reprint in a way that was actually designed to be accessible before certain cards were banned a few months later. Budget players waited a year to get their cards because staples were $70-100. But now staples are still $50 after the tin reprint so relief only comes when Konami is ready to blow their load on another Rarity Collection that further punishes anyone who bought in early. Say what you want about WotC being jewish (they are), they aren't shy about making sure cards people want get into circulation through rewaves of boxes. Barring mythics being playable in every format all at once (Sheoldred, Vivi), cards are pretty affordable. If I wanted an Etali I didn't need to wait for the Phyrexian Invasion Mega Tins for Etali to be reprinted. >Or is enjoyment a foreign concept for you?Saying this as a Yugioh player is wild. The game has been liquid dogshit for so long that any time it's slightly better than unplayable you retards lap it up and act like it's the second coming of Edison. No MBT, I don't believe this format you're going to be calling toxic in a week is actually epic and skillful because you play whole turns on the opponent's draw phase or whatever you retards think is good this week.
>>96462060I'll just stick to mystic reflection and that card from nu tarkir thanks
>mfw I successfully baited the thread into an MtG/YuGiOh argument by pretending bad reprint policy and not banning cards were actually good things
Mail was kind today
>>96461705>"I want to play a game" energy
>>96461976>counter target instant sorcery or abilityThis is protection more than anything anon.
>>96461873Dumb faggot that giggles that one one can react on their turn then seethes when its removed instantly next turn.
>>96461518> TQi am a Timmy at heart
>>96462158Strictly speaking, Bruna is your Commander. Bruna is also Brisela so Brisela inherits the Commander quality, but the Commander of the deck is Bruna.Unless you picked Gisela, in which case you are wrong.
>>96462093>people having a normal conversation>I am le expert baterkwab
>>96462086>Barring mythics being playable in every format all at once (Sheoldred, Vivi), cards are pretty affordable.Ah yes, truly brilliant>Barring the cards WotC doesn't reprint, cards are affordable!WotC would never do the shit Konami did where they instantly reprinted Emerald Tortoise and RBoS in a tin after over 10 years because they became meta-relevant and rose above $0.10.
>>96462165The question was my favorite commander, not the actual commanderof the deck. Brisela is only the commander when she's in play. Brisela is my favorite.It's a white reanimator deck with Bruna at the helm, yes.
>>96461698Why would it make me mad? I'll never sit down at a table with you. Just understand it's a tranny card played by trannies
>>96461714you're on thin ice buddy
>>96462093"Bad" reprint policy is literally the only thing that keeps people buying cards. There would be literally no reason to buy cards if WotC printed them into the ground every time they became valuable.
I'm going to put Hot Dog Cart into my edh deck and I will lose games because of it but I like to have fun.
>>96462172Magic sets get rewaved multiple times to attempt to meet demand without the need for Masters sets. When cards get stuck up into dumb high prices it's because demand overcomes the supply. In Yugioh the supply is low enough that demand always outstrips it to make otherwise completely worthless products have their chase card (the only card in a set worth playing in Yugioh's case). This is because they know what cards are going to have demand based on the OCG play rates and rarity bump accordingly. Yugioh products are so fucking awful there's never a reason to rewave them unless they're something like a structure deck or special box set like the legendary decks. They don't do unlimited prints anymore. In fact, unlims were such a rarity that Power of the Elements getting a rewave was genuinely surprising. WotC is going to be printing Final Fantasy play boxes until the license runs out and because those boxes have value other than just the chase card people will be opening them and adding population to the playable cards. .
Do any of you have any interesting proxies you use or made yourself?Just made this one, gonna build a full Miku themed deck at some point when I get some ideas on how to use some of the secret lair cards
>>964622015 seconds to disprove good print policy. $200 card man they're really trying to reprint this one.
>>96462201>YuGiOh is bad because it intentionally rarity bumps cards after it's known they're good- ACK!
>>96461518>Post your favorite commander and let other anons judge it.I'm getting a reputation at my lgs with this handsome little AI slop-ish guy.
>>96461705This seems pretty fun.
>>96462191What if someone needed a new card? Or a new player? What a retarded statement.
>>96461882Is pretty cancer to play against ngl it got a lot of interaction, but it takes a lot more time for them to get around to do what they mean to do.
>>96462205I kind of want to make Through the Ages style proxies of the scion twins as Will, Scion of Peace and Rowan, Scion of War because WotC missed the most obvious reskin possible. >AlphinaudHealer, diplomat, level headed good guy.>AlisaieFighter, uses a school of magic that casts from her own reserves of magic (can be used as vampirism), hot headed idealistThey even have perfectly usable promo art from Endwalker pre-positioned for a card frame.
>>96462210>>96462216DELETE THIS
>>96461546You love gay dragons and are a better author than WotC.
More cards have been downshifted in rarity than moved up. And vast majority of the ones that moved up are old cards relics of design. Or in the instance of something like Rhystic, it became 3x better instantly just due to the nature of the most common format
>>96461945>It's just fun to load my board with traps and see who wants to challenge themyeah okay homie you've convinced me. Kadena's officially on the build list
Don't worry guys they downshifted Shivan Dragon so it's okay they upshifted cards people actually play
>>96461945>there is nothing in the entire game that can reduce a morph cost.Damn, I didn't want to believe you. How dumb.
>>96461565My friend gets genuinely pissy about boardwipes. And not durdlefuck boardwipes windmill slammed just because someone had it and they have no way to end the game in a timely fashion, like FIRE ALL MODES Farewell turn 8 Timmies with nothing in hand but a basic and a 0/2 creature. He massively overextends and refuses to hold up mana for - or sometimes to even include - protection, he just shits out his entire hand onto the board and is always flabbergasted when he's (rightly) seen as the biggest threat and all his shit gets wiped. There's been plenty of times where he's dumped Mana Crypt and Sol Ring and Signet turn 1 and has fucking 6+ mana t2-3 dumping out game ending threats before most of us even have a board. Last weekend he mega ramped into Canopy Gargantuan t3 with his faggot rock package and had Great Henge and Defense of the Heart ready to go to vomit some other nonsense onto the board too when I blew all my resources to hit the board (that the rest of us barely had anything on) with a Planar Cleansing and he nearly flipped the table and quite literally wouldn't shut the fuck up about how "gay and stupid boardwipes are" and how they "kill the spirit of the game" (lol) and "are too cheap and easy to play" (fucking double lol) all fucking night.I otherwise like the guy but he's insufferable when it comes to even mildly competitive shit. He can't stomach losses or not dominating whatever game he plays. He even whines about single target removal all the time too.
>>96461565I've seen more than a few that gets nasty, they usually are the same old geezers that build decks with little to no regards on how slow, excruciating, or inhibiting their decks are to the three other people in the pod. If you intervein in their jerk off session they will target you, but not enough to put you out of the game. Maybe I'm the one sperging out, I try by leaning back to show that I've mentally clocked out of the game if their deck is preventing everyone but them to really be part of the game.
>>96461565Yes lmao you have NO IDEA how many people run zero interaction/protection, so when you Doom Blade or Imprisoned in the Moon their commander, they flip the fuck out
>>96461597>he wizards can we get more interesting design space cards like myriad and white counter spells and stun counters?>"NO YOU WILL GET +1/+1 COUNTERS AND VEHICLES AND ARTIFACTS AND YOU WILL LIKE IT."
>>96462295Some people really just run KILL ON FUCKING SITE commanders and still expect others to let them be the little bean.
>>96462298Don't forget how fucking everything needs "do thing -> draw card" nowadays
>>96462205I made this for my meme Red Death deck. People get a kick out of it in low-stakes games
>>96461630Can you post your list? I'm working on building him myself.
>>96461518Pic related. After they banned Primeval Titan my deck with her was useless. I’ll build her again someday.
>>96461966>mfw they saw my open blue mana and tried to play the spell anyways
>>96462326>my deck was good because of 1 cardwasn't a good deck and was likely useless anyway
I want to build a deck focused around evasive attackers and accruing value and advantage over time with cheap spellsPlease recommend me a commander for this, ideally in Dimir or at least blue not fucking yuriko
>>96462313I really can't blame WOTC for that. It's the fanbase that don't want potentially interesting build around commanders unless they have DRAW CARD/MAKE MANA WHEN YOU DO THING THAT HAS 500+ CARDS WORTH OF SUPPORT FOR IT ALREADY.
>>96462362>people want to draw cards in a card game>this is bad??>everyone should instead have to run the exact same draw cards we've had for decades instead of making new and thematic ways to draw cards
>>96462368Do thing draw card stapled to Commanders is boring and insipid design. Yes, people wanting that makes them stupid and in general makes the game worse.
>>96462201The most powerful card in Magic costs six figures.The most powerful card in Yugioh costs ten cents. Don't open your fucking mouth about reprints again, you blithering idiot.
I am really happy I have a pod where people can do shit like lock down a game for 9 turns with timesifter and everyone just laughs their ass off.
>>96461538vexing shusher:
>>96461538>noncreature>noncreature>instant or sorcery>noncreature>cmc 1>instant or sorcerytimmy doesn't give a shit
>>96461882sub-90 iq commander
>>96461544>>96461552it's a distant plane where spiders and humans live in harmony. looks good and the art is better than what we have in paper
>>96462379>The most powerful card in Yugioh costs ten cents..............Pot of Greed? I haven't played in over 20 years, lay it on me
OIYA GOT A LOICENSE FOR DAT CARD?
>>96462426wtf is that flagthe art this set is abysmal dogshit
>>96462426why did they print Spiderman India twice?
I thought he was called Captain Universe or some shit?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96462426>try to play card>have to show my ID and give someone my credit card number firstBOLLOCKS!
>>96462407Graceful Charity actually but yeah.Anyway they both went up to a couple bucks recently I guess. GOAT must've taken off
>>96462428Straight up AI bullshit, holy fuck
>>96462449Haha it's pretty much exactly the same card as Pot of Greed. Is the "turn 1 win" shit still meta in that game?
>>96462459Yugioh is basically "whoever goes first has won and you just need to sit there and let them show you how"
>>96462451AI nowadays would have probably made it look less inconsistent:>top part is thinner than the bottom part>flag bends in weird ways
>>96462459It's actually better than Pot of Greed because it also sets up your graveyard
>>96462468>the ENTIRE FUCKING FLAG is on the bottom part>tons of extra fabric on the top partIt's so obvious.
WE CALL THAT A WEB SLIGNIN ASS KICKIN
>>96462451I'm not usually one to claim its AI but it really does look like it was used for parts of thisWhy is the pavement diagonal at one point while the corner is curved on the opposite side of the roadWhy do the windows in the building on the right change with every floorWhat is up with the perspective on the vehicles
>>96462461*Plays Dark Ruler No More*Haha whoops but removal in MtG is a tall ask!
>>96462476I hate how they add the name of the character and it's just a normal name like: Robert Mann
>>96462484I think this thread is full of shit on every single thing it accuses of being AI.But that one?Nah, that one is AI as FUCK.
>>96461705I've seen enough, you've inspired me to build this guy with a bunch of Dauthi, hippy, and chaos effects.
>>96462378You might be a retard, anon
>>96462237Please look forward to Final Fantasy Volume II set that fills the needed gaps.
I thought webslinging was fixed commander ninjutsu but it's actually just shit
>>96462524I for one am looking forward to it. I hope we get a Venat (FFXII).
Final Fantasy: Battle For Ivalice
>>96462426>>96462451>>96462484>>96462475>>96462507sorry for phoneposting, asked an AI about it and except the first result it seems to agree. it even pointed out the perspective being messed up on the bus
>>96462205What did you use to make it? I tried MSE but due to retardmaxxing couldn't figure out how to make the name box clear
>>96462361One of the faeries. Talion is the strongest. Alela is the most fun on the table. Brass or Malcom are fun for pirate shit.
>>96462559>wow guys I said @grok is this real and he said noo!!!What's even the point of asking? It's a robot, it has no actual critical thinking skills.
>>96462581@grok is this post real?
>>96462581It doesn't, but AIs are pretty good at pattern recognition.
>>96461518>TQHand rip? YesTurbo? YesStax? YesPounding face with my 6/6 giant that won't stay dead? YesPaying commander tax? No
>>96462583I asked and it said it's made by AI
>>96462588A kroxa deck will pay commander tax like, once in a game since people tend to try and save exile removal for the guy.
>>96462588I cast bojuka bog
>>96462597Bold to assume I won't leave him in exile
>>96462426>Spiderman india: my people!>Spiderman uk: other people!
>>96462602Yeah you got mad about this before
>>96462443isn't this the ur spider
>>96462559The first point is that the suit is British anon
>>96462443It is. Captain Universe is the name of the identity that comes with the power bestowed to worthy individuals by The Enigma Force.
>>96462610but if he's br*tish then how is he spider man?
>>96462603Don't think I did anon.
>>96462616He's a version of Captain Britain who became Spider-Man.
>>96462616Multiverse bullshit
>>96462607Scions of the Ur-Spider.
>>96462619Guess it was someone else doing the "OMG LOOK IF IT'S INDIA DEN U CAN BE NATIONALIST" and then ignored the numerous other nationality based UB cards
>>96462615So why "Cosmic Spider-Man"? Is this another Spider-Gwen thing?
Spiderfag looks like it will be a fun draft set but I wouldn't want to pay for any since almost all the cards look like dogshit on top of it being capeshit.
>>96462637Such as? As far as I know only spider man and dr who are based in a real world, cant imagine there are lots of examples. Modern mtg at least.
>>96462649Oh assassin's creed too I suppose
>>96462644When Marvel collected the entire run of the comics where he became Captain Universe into trade paperback format, they dubbed it "The Cosmic Spider-Man Saga", since the name has been used on trading cards, toys, etc alongside Captain Universe.
>>96462657*since then the name Cosmic Spider-Man has been used on cards and toys in tandem with the name Captain Universe.
Every character I even give a shit about is EDH unplayable or a fucking draft common
>>96462661But only if the Host depicted on the cards is Peter Parker.
>>96462616Because there are over 700 different "Spider-Man's" in Marvel "canon"
Gyruda bros...we're winning
>>96462734WELL DONE AGENT 47.
>>96462736>Agent 47 vs Spider-ManCan't tell if this would be based or a rehash of Punisher vs Spider-Man or Kraven vs Spider-Man
I feel like it was really unnecessary to give this card a name that locked it behind the gates of copyright for eternity. You could have just named it "Me no lucky" and mentioned "parker luck" in the flavor text.
>>96462734Wasn't this guy just originally a completely normal dude?
>>96461538I love Pact of Negation for the hidden and completely legal "I scoop" mode
>>96461546You love Solitaire and should just play that
>>96462752Me top right
>>96461544Why did you only came to the conclusion after seeing a card design that a 12 year old made?
>>96462768DESU if it was UW this set would be based. But it is UB (and not based UB like Japan) so it is cringe
>>96461596>this mole went from overhyped chase piece to borderline bulk mythicLove to see it
>>96462752Oh hey, spiderman's writers got a card.I wonder if they'll make a card that represents him selling his marriage to satan so that his octegenarian aunt can not die after a long and fulfilling life.
>>96461731>every single basic a different versionI do this too. There is too many artworks I enjoy, and I like it that way so much more than just having a couple of matching ones, or spending a huge amount on Very pretty ones
>>96461705>look inside>tutors tutors tutors>oh a sideboard>more tutorsI have a very similiar pile and if I was tutoring this much instead of building my board I'd be dead every game. how does this win? get massacre wurm or bloodchief ascension every time?
>>96462326If you're deck was good only because of one card, it wasn't actually good. Also>Can't build Saffi without 1 cardAre you ACTUALLY retarded?
>>96461884she made me enjoy the MtG equivalent of enjoying one of Hitlers Paintings I just loathe AssCreed is all
>>96462399>sub-90 iq commander>posts green Lands commander>Angry Bean
>>96462831too bad this doesn't work with commanders
>>96462752>implying IU versions of cards with precious license names don't existremember, WotC can, but won't, and it's always morally just to proxy
What do you think, lads?
>>96462899post the pasta
>>96462191I don't understand, don't you wanna buy cards cheaper? Nobody should be buying MTG cards as investments, they're game pieces.Maybe you'd prefer Pokemon?
>>96462882It does. You don't use an alternative sleeve for your commander, do you? You know marking cards is illegal, do you?
>>96462896Name 3
>TQ
>>96462915People actually have to know what card is your commander at all times for the sake of Commander damage.
>>96462938>fling>sacrificeis there really nothing else for rakdos enjoyers?
still waiting for a mono red instant way to grant an additional combat for yourself during an opponents turn
They should just make an explicit rule that commanders can't be shuffled into the deck and that it's alright for them to have different sleeves in the grave/exile.I'm not gonna remove my commander from its toploader.
>>96461518>TQBefore I built this deck, White was my third favorite color, AND it was a joke. I thought I would end up taking it apart after a few games. Now it is my favorite deck, White is becoming my favorite color, and it is the most feared/respected of all my decks. I love her and need more of white's classically good creatures to be made into flyers. She's great.
>>96462950there also is>discard>madness>life gain/drain>Group slug>big mana>mana cheating >reanimator>steal >classic aristocrats >spellslinger even>treasures
Edgar Markov and the Ur-Dragon are fun and cool commanders.
>>96462967nah bro
>>96462969Well if they're popular they must be good
>>96462979>Denying reality just because you don't like itSo, a rightoid? Unfortunate but expected here. What, you need a list for each of the commanders for those playstyles? Or you gonna schizo rant some bullshit?
>>96462964disgusting levels of mana cheating
>>96462969Can't believe these are both from 2017 precons, wizards really cooked back then
>>96462904
>>96462060This thing looks like it would be really cool. There's a good amount of token generation in those colors and being able to copy stuff like that feels like it's open to so much.
>>96462904you asked for it
Noyan Dar bros? I think we're back
>>96462992Naw, I still need to have flyers on the field to cast her, which usually cost mana themselves. Most of the time, the creatures that help cast her total mana cost equals about how much she costs, save a mana or two. So, it less cheating and more mana pre-payment.
>>96462950MaRo forbid colours having a distinct identity
>>96462989>Denying reality just because you don't like it>rightoidanon...
>>96462459It never really was outside of Firewall OTK format. Just that unless you pack your board breakers or drew your hand traps you're in for a rough time going second.
>>96463022nta but he is right
>>96462665You mean like in the MTG story? I thought no one cared about the story characters. Always figured people preferred trying something like "Random Innistrad Guy" and finding themselves fans of him because the play style was fun.
>>96463028You say "rough time" like it's not just literally impossible to play through good boards if you don't have multiple breakers and or handtraps.Especially on Master Duel with shit like Apollousa legal and in every deck.
>>96463037I'm talking about from the Spider-shit
>>96463048Oh that's what you meant. Yeah most of these guys suck ass. I was hoping Mysterio would have been something or Lizard but they're all mediocre at most and unplayable for the most part.
>>96461541She's one of my favourite cards. Always a laugh drawing her and everybody happy with a parley
Hello, my love, welcome to guided edh affirmationsRepeat these affirmations each morning for 21 days and you will notice a change in your mood and health of this threadI do not need to respond to schizo posts>I do not need to respond to schizo postsI will post decklists when asked, it is a compliment>I will post decklists when asked, it is a complimentI will not try to dunk on others if I don't understand how my deck works>I will not try to dunk on others if I don't understand how my deck worksI do not need to make up stories about games that didn't happen to fit a narrative>I do not need to make up stories about games that didn't happen to fit a narrativeI am a competent player who does not need to samefag to prove it>I am a competent player who does not need to samefag to prove itI will not try to boost my self-esteem by bringing up cEDH in discussion about casual decks>I will not try to boost my self-esteem by bringing up cEDH in discussion about casual decksI will not feel injured if my deck does not stack up to cEDH decks>I will not feel injured if my deck does not stack up to cEDH decksI do not need to prove my MTG knowledge by bringing up card interactions that are not related to the discussion>I do not need to prove my MTG knowledge by bringing up card interactions that are not related to the discussionI show respect towards myself and other posters when I fully read a post/post chain before replying>I show respect towards myself and other posters when I fully read a post/post chain before replyingI will recognize that the posters in this thread are more dedicated than 90% of the player base and as such I am sweaty>I will recognize that the posters in this thread are more dedicated than 90% of the player base and as such I am sweatyI will have fun adapting to new strategies, even if they invalidate my boomer mentalities>I will have fun adapting to new strategies, even if they invalidate my boomer mentalities
>>96463124
>>96463124go dive in lava
>>96462899>brown angle
>>96463136Sir, I'm not telling you to shut the fuck up, I'm merely giving you suggestions on how to make the general better. If my post reads like me telling you to shut the fuck up and this will only worsen your behavior, the issue is you, not I. Therapy may help.>>96463146And this is just rude! Perhaps if you repeat the affirmations, you might feel better!
>>96463170go dive in lava
>>96462205I have a monk deck where every monk (and many of the cantrips) have been altered to depict cute monk girls rather than the fuck-ugly art way too many of them have (fucking hell Third-path Iconoclast is ugly). The art of the deck also as a story running through it. Basically, I have Narset, Enlightened Exile as commander, and the cards show her getting exiled (on Path to Exile) by Taigam, also now a cute monk girl (and featuring on cards like Supreme Verdict and Inspiring Ultimatum), and then their rivalry and fighting. It was a very fun project to make, and one of my favorite decks.
>>96463124I will not reply to Gay Bolas posterI will not reply to SwordfagI will not reply to TifaschizoI will not reply to Ai SloppersI will not reply to Proxy PoorsI will not reply to obvious bait
>>96463210At least Swordfag and Proxyfags want to talk about the game.
>>96463233Trip.On.Now.
>>96463233Don't defend any fag who uses proxies. They don't like magic and they would prefer if it died.
>>96463258>swordfag>saying something nice about proxyfags
>>96463193based and punchgirl pilled
>>96463259As a proxy user, I love Magic, I just hate paying alot for cards and I want to support WotC as little as possible. It is possible to love a game but hate the company making it.
>>96462205Even with the interaction with commanders, you can ask your table if they would like to keep it interesting where you will notify them when the commander is involved such as an attack and from that point they will then know. You're playing the game to have fun right?At worst if the table is a bunch of tryhards it lets you dodge at least one spot removal.
>>96463124I like that someone else has taken up the mantle but im confused as to why you you a pokemon instead of googling "provocative yoga pose" and using one of those images
>>96462205Hello fellow hypnofag
>>96463114My (outdated) deck is maybe a little meaner than that.I should really take a new image.
noob question?Its turn 2 and you have 2 lands in play, and in your hand you have a rampant growth, and a Arcane signet.In a vacum what card should be played?
>>96463495Do I have a 1 mana play for this turn's rotation?
>>96463495I'd say Rampant Growth/Farseek/other2droplandramp because your opponents are extremely less likely to interact with a land by your next turn
>>96463505>Do I have a 1 mana play for this turn's rotation?No
>>96463495Depends on how many colors your commander is, but generally land ramp is stronger than artifact ramp. If you need multiple colors the signet is better though.
>>96463508Rampant Growth
>>96463402Because I like Gholdengo. That's it really.
>>96463495Land ramp is the strongest thing you can do in commander since MLD is taboo. Rocks are for colors that can't do that.
>>96463506you don't even play magic, fuck off
>>96463742
>>96461518>TQI just think he's neat.
HA HA HA Marvelfags deserve this
>>96463858>extremely good....good?
>>96463858>she doesn't like a perfect new york bagelngmi
>>96463867cream cheese slop is for Jews, white men like a small amount of butter
They're definitely going to make a cringe Ray's Pizza reference too huhThe True Original Ray's PizzaLegendary Land Tap to add R your mana poolTap, sacrifice a good and add RR"Even heroes need to refuel"
>>96463858I see nothing wrong with a good Bagel and Schmear. Then again, I'm a born and bred New Yorker, so this panders to me.>>96463873>cream cheese slop is for JewsCream cheese was invented by a white man, for white people>It was co-opted!You can't gatekeep food, faggot.
>>96463895
>>96463913Actually, I'm black, which I'm sure you think is even worse.
you all suck and my red aggro deck leaves you eating dust of shame
>>96463873>William A Lawrence created the first cream cheese in chester NYSounds super jewish anon.Listen I know being part of the inferior rest of America built to sustain NYC is tough but you just gotta accept your place in life.That being said, the true bagel experience is with bacon, egg, cheese, salt, pepper, and ketchup as intended by god.
>>96463858Bagels are pretty good
>>96463934 Something can be created by a white guy and more popular among Jews. That's not actually proof of anything. There is a reason a yiddish word is used for the meme. and I lived in New York for like 10 years
>>96463858What's with wasting card slots on these fucking retarded "food token, but draws a card or something" cards? They've been in several of the latest sets, and they're stupid every time. Is it some draft filler thing?
>>96463921no, being jewish is worse. being black is only bad if you are one of them racist niggers
>>96463969certain people at WotC play certain commanders, and it's painfully obvious that those people constantly push for more cards for their commander.food is overrepresented because some manager plays rocco, street chef.
>>96463984Unexpected reply. Well, I'm not. Hard to be, considering how many races are in my family AND I have a white girlfriend. Though, please cool it with the antisemitism, my cousins are Jewish.
>>96464001That and merfolks
>>96463858>it's actually decent for pauperno... not like thisI don't want to run spidershit in my decks
>>96461518Just print a card that's a better Gaea's Cradle you cowards.Beat the Reserved List by printing cards that are better than anything on it.
>>96462362>>96462378Commander is a format about consistency, despite what retards will tell you. You always have a certain dude or thing in your zone that you can (almost) always cast and having value like card draw available like that is good and helps you see more of your deck, which means you can see more of your win cons. If you just want to play draw pass simulator be my guest
>>96463969>What's with wasting card slots on these fucking retarded "food token, but draws a card or something" cards?They do it because Hasbro forces them to print 5000+ new cards every year and they have maybe 500 good ideas per year. At best. The sheer speed of production means almost every card design has to be a bad design.Magic will never be a good game again until it returns to "3 sets a year" structure (and bans every card printed after 2012).
>>96464099>they don't have good ideasThis is a spider-man set, and there are going to be good spider-man shit left out, yet this makes it in. In the FF set, they made room for Instant Ramen, yet there are mainline game protagonists that don't even get their own cards. Them not having ideas can't be right.
>>96463858>not a bacon egg and cheeseBoooo>>96463873>cream cheese slop is for JewsThinking like this and being this obsessed with the small hat tribe must be exhausting.>>96463969I don't mind them putting generic artifacts in for limited and I think food can be a nice worldbuilding choice depending on the setting.>>96464001>food is overrepresented because some manager plays rocco, street chefRocco does not care about this card even a little outside of the draw
>>96464141>Rocco does not care about this cardrocco himself not, but a food deck with rocco as a redundant food supplier does.
>>96462784Doesn't matter. I still love him.
>>96461518>TQI love this bulk picker. He's where I funneled all of the Orzhov stuff that never materialized into their own decks.
>>96463984Brown groyper claws typed this post.
>>96464293no, I'm pure german. when I see a black guy talking with a thick german accent, I welcome him as my brother. nobody has a problem with integrated people. the problem are the racist, invading niggers and sandniggers who shove little kids in front of trains. death to all of these bastard creatures from hell.
>>96461518>TQGet rotated idiot.Yes Im playing some sharks for the joke. Shabraz actually has decent synergy with hylda because you can use her 3rd bullet to pump him too and he can give her flying if you want to get in with her.
>>96464001I think it's more likely they're out of ideas and they're all quirk chungus redditors so this is what they come up with.
>>96464350Bro the average IQ of subsaharan africans is in the 60s.I'm sure there's a small handful of them that are cool people and at least of average White intelligence, but the downsides of opening your country to any non-european immigration at all make that simply not worth it.You can let them in as tourists if you wanna meet them so bad, but what's the point of letting them immigrate? Even the "integrated" ones will vote for parties that support unlimited migration of lower quality ones.
>>96462915>>96462949Fucking moron lmao
>>96463969It's an optimized common that hits multiple marks. >artifact>self sac>food synergy>generic lifegain synergy>bad source of drawCards like these pull a lot of weight in draft while still being bloated enough to be something people might look at for EDH. Cryogen Relic from EOE was kind of like this and it was a premium card in draft.
>>96464414I think you misunderstood me there. I'm against immigration, and I'm for mass deportation of all brown-skinned people. I'm just saying that I won't attack anyone who tries to be like me.
>>96464438People like you graced us with the jeet menace. All it takes is them brown nosing you and pretending to want to assimilate and suddenly they have human trafficking cartels set up in most first world countries.
>>96461518>TQZedruu, of course. Easily one of the funniest commanders ever printed.
>>96463011Why on earth would I put this garbage in noyan dar>a land that can never attackCool?
>>96464438That's fair yeah. I'm online friends with some nons myself actually, if they don't wanna move here i don't inherently mind them.>>96464460I mean he said he supports deporting them all so i don't think that's right, jeetlovers usually wouldn't claim that.
>>96463031Anon you champion grown men lying about their genes.
>>96464177I can't see that card without thinking of the meme and it predates it by like a head which is crazy >>96464287He's def a cool mix of legends matter and multi-color matters, I've considered building him but I think shilgengar would be a cooler orzhov slot
>>96463193Judging from just these three, this deck looks terrible lmao
>>96463495Neither. I play a good 2 drop that actually develops my board state instead of waiting until t4 to start the game.Rampers should just agree amongst eachother to start every game at 4 mana. People need to stop wasting the early game.
>>96463495Rampant Growth first so you can get the piece of mana that needs to come in tapped first and out of the way. Arcane Signet comes in untapped so it's more workable on later turns.
>>96464581Shilgengar is cool. I should probably rebuild him with a new eye since I originally built him to turbo reanimate big cards that required specific answers from the graveyard way too early. Stuff like Serra's Emissary and Avacyn. Stuff that snowballed too hard for lower power tables but not nearly good enough for high power.
>>96463353I'm honestly surprised we don't have more effects like this. Effects that are clearly Yu-Gi-Oh inspired or from other cars games.
>>96464660Yeah I'm thinking of taking a more typical aristocrats angle with the reanimate as a flashy finisher option
>>96464481if only he had black
>>96464720I'm waiting for more blood token support in his colors. Having to use angels as blood bags to set up his big flashy full grave reanimate is cool but a lot of the angels just kind of suck and don't contribute anything. The Kaldheim angels are the coolest part of the angel package outside of your sticky finishers which are better as turbo reanimates. I might try to focus on assembling Brisela on my next build.
>>96461518>TQEveryone at my LGS gives me shit for running him, but I love the Eldrazi Slot Machine.
>>96464758They've slipped some stuff in here and there like this guy from the squirrel precon, but yeah more mono black blood cards would be nice. However, stridehanger automaton is colorless and basically the best card you can put in the deck imo
>>96463193this is ass
>>96464631>Signet and Rampant are "bad" 2 drops>both magically don't develop your board>the rules for this questions were clearly stated: you have a Signet and Rampant Growth in hand>you magically pull a secret third "really good" 2 drop out of your ass>in this scenario you put two cards in your deck you have no intention of playing anyways>miserably fail to answer the very simple question You're why commander players are looked down upon
>>96462904>>96462999>>96463008The big story of the Honolulu Pro Tour wasn’t Kazuya Mitamura’s $40,000 victory in the finals. The big story happened in the first round, where a young boy known only as Hans did something that is causing many to call him a hero.Hans’s game was looking unwinnable. He had a negative life total and was kept alive only by his Platinum Angel. His opponent had just cast a Molder Slug, threatening to remove the Angel — Hans’s only artifact — at the beginning of his next turn.But when it got to that next turn, Hans would say a word that would put the whole series of events in motion. A word that would send ripples throughout Magic history. A word that would cement Hans’s legendary status.Hans stared at his opponent and said, “No.”His opponent was taken aback. “Judge!” said the opponent. “He’s refusing to follow my Molder Slug’s triggered ability.”“Refusing?”“Refusing.”“Is this true, Hans?”Hans nodded.The judge said, “I have to issue you a game loss, Hans.”Hans pointed to his Platinum Angel. “I can’t lose the game,” he said. And with that, he proceeded to his draw step, undaunted by the judge’s ruling. Then he skimmed through his deck for marked cards and put those into his hand as well.“You’re violating multiple game rules,” said the judge, “in addition to ignoring my ruling, and I am issuing a game loss to you.”cont.
A flurry of applause burst through the room. Judges began high-fiving each other and giving Marcia hugs. “Unfortunately,” Hans said, “the concession has no effect since my Platinum Angel is still in play.”It was two weeks into the game when the military showed up. “Hans,” came a voice from a helicopter. “We have you surrounded. If you do not concede immediately, we will open fire.”Hans looked up at the helicopter, over at the tanks, and across the street at the snipers. He was still pointing to the Platinum Angel, as stoically as ever.To this day, a sleeved Platinum Angel remains embedded in Hans’s tombstone. Hans may have lost his life that day, but he never lost the game.
>>96464836>bad 2 dropsYes. Mana isnt developing your board, it is setting you up to develop it later.>looked down onIn all the formats that arent EDH there are 2 decks that ramp. I have the proper position.
>>96464867>that arent EDH>posted in the EDH board>answered to an EDH related question i will just iognore your first stance on development
>>96462950Use board-wide pings to own your opponents epic style
>>96464867>In all the formats that arent EDHThis is EDH. Not other formats. Thing that are bad in this format are good in other and vise versa. To not understand this outs you as a retard.
>>96464877Anon, you appealed to the rest of the community you cant invoke >edh threadWhen you are the one who forced the greater magic community into the discussion (who is looking down on commander plays if not the rest of the mtg community), unaware that the greater magic community agrees with the "ramp is unnecessary" view of magic. The only decks that should ramp are the ones that play bombs and need them out on a timeline that matches normal decks.You have been logucally dismantled do not waste aynmore of my time.
>>96464906>>96464901You guus invoked the greater magic community not me, do not get pissy that they are now part of the discussion.>things that aren't good in normal games are good here!Not really doe. Some cards definitely got a chance to shine in EDH such as rhystic which was a 25 cent card until EDH became big. But no, by and large, you want to approach the game the same. Youre welcome to state what you think changes in game philosophy.
>>96464867Signets, Talismans, and Fellwar Stone are good enough 2 drops that they still see play in cEDH.
You ramp in EDH compared to other formats because you have 3x the opponents and cards to play around. You need that extra mana in order to keep pace with those extra opponents or cast larger spells that have a larger impact
>>96462205I occasionally chop up some cards to give preferential treatment to certain artists
>>96464944Cedh runs every rock they can cause they run 28 lands anon. Are you suggesting the average commander player should also run 28 lands or are you honest enough to admit cedh has an entirely different metagame. >>96464960This genuinely makes absolutely no sense. Everyone has 3 opponents to play around. Why on earth would you need to ramp when everyone is facing the same battle.You people were clearly taught to include ramp in your decks when you started playing and then simply never thought about it again.
>>96464960You also have a guaranteed card to ramp towards that benefits from excess ramp since it costs more to cast if it gets removed. This alone is enough of a reason to divorce your thoughts on ramp from how it behaves in 60 card. >>96464972The point is that they clearly don't see dropping 2 mana on a rock early as unplayable or else they'd remove the simple rocks that aren't combo food for early game threats. Even when forced into the most toxic and fast form of the format dropping a rock has major value in color fixing and extra reach on subsequent turns.
Lost against another Timmy this week, this is doing a lot to my mental health
>>96464972To say you’re being intellectually dishonest would run the risk of accidentally inferring you’re intellectual. 28 lands implies a low curve, but all that fast and extra mana must also be doing something for them.
>>96461518>TQI don't care that she's overdone, 4 color slop or artifact faggotry. I get to play my favorite esper stuff with red recursion and removal. I also really like KCI as an archetype.
>>96462588Got a list?
>>96465018Maybe you're not as good as you think
My friends said they won't play with me if this funny metal man is in my deck. They said he's toxic. Is he really that bad compared to other win cons?
>>96465108People don't like infect and he's an optimized infect wincon due to having natural trample while being annoying to remove due to indestructible. Try to find something else to move in and out of his slot.
>>96465018>I will have fun adapting to new strategies, even if they invalidate my boomer mentalities
>>96465108Its not that bad, you need to generate a ton of mana or cheat it into play. I'd be a little salty about getting hit by a hasty blightsteel wearing lightning greaves that got cheated into play but that's just the nature of the game replace it with Magister Sphinx
>>96465045List?
>>96465108Tell them that he's infect, not toxic
>>96465108No, you friends are pussies. Tell them to run more exile and -X/-X removal. Anyone that can't sense when blightsteel is coming is a retard, especially after the first time.
>>96465108>not playing theft.dek and killing you with it
>>96465108I dislike all 0 iq winconsSame reason I hate craterhoof
>>96465017Again. When a cedh player plays a rock it is doing two things.1. Compensating for lower land counts2. Acting as rituals essentiallyYou fundamentally do not understand the difference between cedh and edh and think things are analogous. They arent. The scenarios they need rocks and ramp for do not exist in normal edh games.>>96465040See above. Also wrong, cedh curves are pretty much the same as average edh decks now.
>>96465108Your friends sound like gay losers who hate fun.This is one of the coolest cards in the entire game, tell them to suck it up and run some exile removal.
>>96464972>Why on earth would you need to ramp when everyone is facing the same battle.Because you want to be ahead of your 3 opponents, not "on pace". Are you looking to just fuck around or are you looking to win?Your post is dripping with "I watched some youtubers, who are for casual EDH, say ramp is bad and now I'm going to pretend like I have a deep knowledge on the matter."It's perfectly fine to opt out of it and play in a more casual way. But you don't need to attack people over it and pretend like you know anything though.
>>96465179>The scenarios they need rocks and ramp for do not exist in normal edh games.They use the 2 mana rocks the same way as in casual. They're not rituals. They don't go positive on their first turn. The act of going up a mana on subsequent turns has the same type of value in cEDH as it does in casual, but in casual you have more turns to tap and less efficient spells to cast meaning the actual value is higher. A ramp spell or mana rock is almost always better than a Baleful Strix on 2 in EDH.
>>96465108Oh man, so anyway I swords it.Your friends are extreme bitches, blightsteel is big and scary and should be be and scary. If they can't deal with it they should get better at the game. It either has to be hard cast way late into the game or it has to cheated out in a telegraphed way
I have already disclosed at my pod that i will hyperfocus on whoever plays Spider slop cards, i dont care the status on the game, i will bully any marvel fan out of my games
>>96465226"Dies to Doom Blade" isn't even a good argument for threats that actually die to Doom Blade. Exile removal is more scarce and bounce only sets it back for a turn.
>>96465229Bring it on bro I've already got half a dozen spiders rocking mega counters and protection in hand.
>>96461630When im at my LGS il hear this guys name the most, including my table as well as people in the background at other tables. Dudes quite popular
>>96465242If you can't deal with an indestructible permanent you'd lose just as hard to avacyn, which can be played far sooner and cheated out more effectivelyPure skill issue
>>96465259Avacyn doesn't have infect.
>>96465223Except they dont what an absurd argument. A cedh player needs 8 mana by turn 2, a casual ramper is never getting there and their decks arent set up for it. >not ritualsSomeone doesnt watch cedh content! The vast majority of rocks are tapped once maybe twice.>>96465206But if everyone is ramping no one is ahead lol. Like i said, you were clearly taught to include ramp but never considered why or if its still necessary.Instead of ramping, just develop your board!>everyone goes 10km/h>but I need to go 20km/h what if they go faster!And now everyone is going 20, and no one knows why. If everyone is ramping you arent changing anything. Actually brain dead lol
>>96465243SPIDER
>>96465153Most recent pic is outdated. I dropped the artifact taplands in favor of the multiplayer duals, dropped the mycosynth vandalblast wincon and the fast mana+keys+Artificer's Intuition stuff. Artificer's Intuition is a sweet card but it's too U intensive for a 4 color deck.https://archidekt.com/decks/14368354/breya_edh
>>96465143>nervous laughter
>>96465174Just out of curiosity what isn't a 0 IQ wincon?
>>96462821Show me a card like Primeval Titan that can be a land toolbox and make my deck work alone with Saffi.
>>96465310Anything that doesn't kill him too quickly or hurt his feelings too hard
>>96465310Thoracle combos of course, for blue players like myself who are ahead of the curve
>>96465292>kept sotsw and myr battlesphereNice
>>96465310The wincons I use of course. Those are cool, honest, and based.
>>96465299>Tannuk for warp>run cost reducers>run sundial to prevent the exileHaha time to swing.
>you allowed a green player to get 15 tokes on board>you allowed a green player to ramp to 10 lands>you tapped out and have 1 blocker>you get upset they craterhoof youpeople like this exist sadly enough
>>96465335don't forget to add a couple red-friendly copy cards like cursed mirror
>>964652732 cost rocks are only tapped once or twice but they have value because they add reach to combo turns. This is my whole fucking argument. They add extra reach. The Timmy who wants to play his snowball commander on 3 or 4 instead of 5 is seeing value in ramp just the same as a cEDH player getting Rhystic on the board a turn early or having enough mana to execute a wincon on 4. >But if everyone is ramping no one is aheadVariance in casual mitigates this. Perfect symmetry isn't going to happen often and if it does it just means everyone is getting to the stuff they want to play earlier and the higher cost spells they're ramping to will be what causes asymmetry. Give me some examples of what you think is a turn 2 board development that is so applicable to most casual strategies that it's worth discussing over something as universal as ramp.
>>96465338>Wipe the player's tokens>Counter their ramp>Have pillowfort shit that discourages swinging>"What the fuck man, you aren't even letting me play the game"No winning I'm afraid.
>>96464906>>96464918Putting the shit in schizoI didn't realise it was that time again
>>96465315I don't need to. There are plenty of other Saffi players that exist RIGHT NOW that don't use or need Prime Time. If you need ONE CARD for your whole deck to work, it was never good and you are bad at the game.
>>96465273>But if everyone is ramping then no one is ahead lol.To keep with your analogy, if everyone is going that 20mph (ramping) and you think you're epic and contrarian by going 10mph (not ramping). Where do you think this leaves you?This also assumed that every single person is ramping. Which by variance and intended play is not always the case. Only you can do what's best for you to win.I agree you don't blind include ramp, you consider your wincon and enviroment of play and determine if you need it.In cEDH you do it to win, in casual EDH you do it to cast their several Scrimblos for 7 mana faster.Again, you're pretending to know things you don't actually have a depth of knowledge about. Stick to your casual EDH youtube videos so you can parrot their opinions in the comments and suck them off there.
>>96465310wincons I like obviouslyBut more seriously I'm being facetious with "0 iq", I just dislike craterhoof because I find the play pattern boring to play or play against. Just, have a wide board -> win does not interest me. Craterhoof just happens to be the most prominent of that type of effect.
>>96465474I want to see people work for it. I don't even mind combo wincons if the combo is something I haven't seen before. Novelty goes a long way in casual.
>>96465108Are they red and/or blue players? Every other color has counter strategies for it to be an issue
>>96465018You gonna get the biggest redpill and realize EDH is a game made for Timmies
>>96465488>blueI counter your 10 mananspell>redyoink
>>96465488>implying blue doesnt have every possible answerWew
>>96465488
This whole set feels like it was designed as a pre-con and late in development they decided to change itThis is probably the worst designed set in years, possibly decades, and I'm being genuine when I say that.
>>96465488>BlueAs if blue doesn't have bounce and stun effects to stop him from attacking
My first and favourite commander, went through so many changes I had enough wizards to make several other decks
The "free if you play your general" cards still really bother me. Did player's really need more incentive to have their generals out? Isn't paying for mana a cornerstone of how mtg functions? I get fow/pacts have their own costs and id argue they matter, I just dont see having your commander out being anywhere near the barrier to entry. But what do I know, I also quit modern because of the new evoke elementals.
>>96465518They designed it as an Assassin's Creed-style set but because Aftermath flopped they had to make it at least draftable and have normal-sized packs.
>>96465518They did a turn around and decided to make it not a mini set.That's why all the useless fluff and filler. Though I'm 99% sure they designed that they designed that meme card first regardless
>>96465518Almost everything in the set is laughably bad. Which I guess isn't necessarily a bad thing given how pushed sets have been getting and means I won't see many spidershit cards
>>96465535yesfree spell bad
Just woke up what stupid drama did I miss out on this time?
>>96465579Some dumbass posted a hate general and got really ass-blasted that the general continued without him so he kept making more. The middle one there is the real one.
>>96465588hah, awesome
>>96465518What's bizarre to me is that we aren't getting precons at all. I guess they want to test the waters on UB without commander
>>96465481I will surprise you with a point of finger in a direction behind your back saying: "look, Mark Rosewater is pissing on Rebecca Guays and Seb McKinnons artworks!" and shuffling the board around into a winning position while you look away
>>96465529I have literally never seen anyone play this deck somehowwtf does it do besides wizard value
>>96465535Sure you can have a problem with them. But it's maybe 1-3 cards in the 99 card deck. Is it really busting your balls that bad in your group?
>>96465623Makes some convoluted combo kills with ghostly flicker, dualcaster mage and spellseeker
This set sucks
>>96465242>Exile removal is more scarceIts literally not anymore, to the point indestructible is fast becoming a useless keyword
>>96465645Man, MtG cards read more and more like Yu-Gi-Oh cards
>>96461546You make Timmy mald because you won't let him pretend to be the small bean.
>>96465646>fast becomingit has been settled, and quite clear that indestructible is just kinda cute with niche applications now, for literal years
>>96465625No, actually we don't play them at all. I just have to deal with them when my brother plays and it's not like it's that big of a deal. It's more getting flashbacks to scam/blink decks in modern that pisses me off. I just hope they don't print more free shit.
>>96465645Bulk mythic incoming
>>96465667Both cycles are egregious and I wouldn't hold out hope for wotc stopping.
>>96465654I hate it so so SO fucking much. We don't need paragraphs on our fucking cards
I hope the inevitable Avengers Assemble card is a "search your deck for any number of heroes and put them onto the battlefield" effect just so i can have a third card that puts my entire deck on the battlefield for my changeling deck
>>96461552>>96461544I unironically want these instead of spider retards, at least there is some kind of variability. >MEGA SPIDER MAN>KYLE SPIDER MAN>SPIDER FROM INIDA>POO SPIDER MAN FROM UK>SPIDER DIPSHIT>SPIDER LORD, KING OF SHARTS>retard bitch, powercrept aether vial
>TQIncredible effect? Check. Implausible amount of mana to cast in Izzet? Check. Fattest ass on the Sword Coast? Double check.
>>96465767You realize these are all just going to be "generic good guy or bad guy with spider companions" in both art and flavor, right?
>>96465779uwslop good, ubslop bad
>>96465775>people are actually posting about decks I want to seeBasedList?
>>96465775She's a cutie too.
Say what you want, but at least UW fits way better thematically. FF was dine since it's fantastic magic stuff, but Spiderman is just a dude in spandex.
>>96465775Shit how many cards out there put a card from your hand on the top of your library? You could have a big fatty in your hand, put it on the library, then cast a 1cmc card to cheat out Kozilek or something dumb like that
>>96465645Spiders?
The power level of edh decks these days are too high honestly, i think I should only play in pauper edh tables.... If there was any
>>96465835the casual format has been powercrept
>>96465835Do you think Pauper is low power or something? As a niche format, the only people playing it are people who have fully optimized their decks for it.I'm a cedh player and pauper is more cutthroat than cedh most of the time, it's just not as fast or interactive on the stack.
Is mono white really that bad?
>>96465779I'm going to be honest. I would find a random, completely disconnected character art better than some of these retarded cards.
>>96465808This a little out of date, the deck is in the shop while I figure out funnier wincons than aetherflux or hitting people with a bunch of dragonshttps://moxfield.com/decks/Awv36AiO50aG5j1V5s2nHQ
>>96465851Yes but that won't stop me playing it
>>96465779It would all just be boring selesnya +1/+1 counter variants. Zzzzz
>>96465851its probably the weakest mono colour but you can still make it work its just that most people arent willing to play to its strengths and instead just play white weenies or lifegain
Is it worth running null rod karn just for it's static ability? I guess he also synergizes with Mystic Forge, grabbing stuff out of exile.>>96465851No, its alright but you just have to be on board with it's gameplan of aggro and MLD
>>96465843Yeah, every deck now is ultra competitive. There are no casual decks anymore>>96465845Maybe, do people play pauper Edh in your location for you to say that? And if that is the case, I'm talking about power level in general, when I played pauper and compared to modern, the gameplay patterns were way more interesting honestly, also people were more prone to experiment because the decks were cheaper.
>>96465851It's good if you lean hard in to hatebear stax but otherwise it sucks
>>96465910I only ever see k4rn used alongside mycosynth lattice for a complete lockdown
>>96465911>do people play pauper Edh in your location for you to say that?We have a small group but I only play it casually.>I'm talking about power level in generalIt tends to be above bracket 3 casual edh but below the bracket 4 tables.>when I played pauper and compared to modern, the gameplay patterns were way more interesting honestlyThis is because of novelty. You're comparing the unknown meta of pauper to the known meta of modern.To a precon edh-only player, standard might look more interesting and varied than edh because the emphasis on tempo and low cmc plays with little to no ramp is something they haven't seen before. It doesn't mean standard is a more varied meta, it just means the lack of meta knowledge makes it look more unique by comparison.>people were more prone to experiment because the decks were cheaperThis is admittedly a benefit, but you'll rarely have a table where each player has a pauper deck they're just testing. Most pauper decks will eventually fit the meta of the format, because the restrictions breed creativity but the tools themselves are more limited overall, leading to more staples across colours.
>>96465775I've been meaning to take apart a Narset, Enlightened Exile deck that wasn't very fun. This is a perfect commander for a lot of her cards.
>>96465835As long as your deck can beat upgraded final fantasy precons and the kind of mouth breathers that play them, we will not have a drought of casual edh games for many moons.
>>96465964>It tends to be above bracket 3 casual edh but below the bracket 4 tables.7 5 %5%I'm still baffled that brackets are broken into 4 as if they didnt know this was an issue
>>96466020Bracket 2 and Bracket 3 are the same thing, but people just use Bracket 2 to refer to unmodded precons and Bracket 3 to refer to anything else.I would really prefer to go back to power levels because everyone was a 7 but people would at least say if they're closer to a 6 or an 8. No one's going to say their bracket 3 is closer to a 2 or a 4.
>>96466020>a deck with 4 game changers is automatically a bracket 4, regardless if it regularly loses to bracket 2 decks - because of theme, commander choice, overall power, a mix of all, or otherwiseit's just another overhyped and equally shitty piece to include in your pregame conversation. I'm more surprised how quick people jumped on ShitCs system
>>96466174Sounds like the system does its job of keeping the lower brackets generally more affordable.Just don't use 4 game changers, or if you really need them (you don't) then rule zero it.
Only socially maladjusted, friendless men with bad hygiene and a desire to engage in pubstomping power fantasies have an issue with the bracket system.The reason it took off so quickly is because normal, well-adjusted people don't mind it.
>>96466174If you're playing four GCs and you still lose to bracket 2s when you see the GCs your deck is a non-functional pile of cards. The GC list exists to bracket off cards that are such blowouts when played correctly that players trying to get a lower powered game have to ask you why it's in your deck since its only purpose is to run away with the game in an unsatisfying way. Except the tutors, free counterspells, and Crop Rotation, they're there for power and signpost reasons.
>>96466174The worst part of brackets is that, in an unintuitive way, limiting GC cards makes people always want to include the max thereby actually decreasing diversity in some cases
>>96466212most reddit post so far, and thats saying something.also kys gavin, noone likes your pedo vibes.
>>96465851No, the white players are just weenies
>>96466261>decreasing diversityis our strength
>>96465827>only once a turnwouldn't even consider it
>>96465835pauper =/= low power
>>96465851not if you play tribal slop
>>96466212No one in any LGS I frequent uses the bracket system or has even brought it up.
>>96466279Uh uh no i mean uh... increase homogeneity? No thats gayOh yes>variance
>>96466089>>>>>1>2>2 (but good)>low/weak 3>solid 3>high/strong 3>4>borderline 4-5>5
>Bracket 1: Exhibition>Winning is not the primary goal here, as it's more about showing off something unusual you've made. Villains yelling in the art? Everything has the number four? Oops, all Horses? Those are all fair game! The games here are likely to go long and end slowly.You'll have WotC describing this, and then go on to say.>Deck Building: No cards from the Game Changers list. No intentional two-card infinite combos, mass land denial, or extra-turn cards. Tutors should be sparse.By the deck building guidelines, I could make an optimized 'bracket 1' deck, but it absolutely would not fit the dumb meme-pile slop they're presenting it as; 20% of the bracket system is dedicated to this confused identity, where Person A could go "Here's my hat tribal, where all cards feature a hat in the card art! It's Bracket 1", and Person B could go "Here's my gruul counters deck featuring 50$ cards like Bristly Bill! It's bracket 1 because it fits the deck building guidelines"but this is further compounded when you look at Bracket 2, and it's described as being the 'AVERAGE PRECON LEVEL', which pigeonholes it into the expectation of a contemporary commander precon, but the only guideline difference from B1 is no 'chaining extra turns'. Like, the moment you start including shocks, and fetchlands, you're already beyond the cusp of an 'average precon', let alone once you start including expensive cards that manage to skirt the guidelines, but are still beyond reasonable for what to expect in a PRECON.Every deck (outside of b1 joke-piles, and unironic b2 precon games) might as well be a 3 minimum ('Beyond the strength of an average precon deck'), if we're going by their descriptions that don't at ALL correlate with their deck building guidelines.Bracket 5 forgoes any guidelines aside from banned cards, so it's effectively just ignoring the bracket system entirely, it exists outside of the ecosystem.
>>96466286True. He usually plays low to the ground.Getting a double rishkar's expertise, or two copies of apex altisaur, or even just two triggers from Etali Conqueror would be pretty sweet though.Hell, you could toss it into an Etali Conqueror deck as a glorified panharmonicon whenever you bring him out of the command zone.
>>96465310honest to god 21 commander combat damage
>>96466368And let me guess, you're a voltron player?>n-nooo i just play stompy control and happen to equip my combat damage commander with things that buff his power and give him evasion
>>96465808Not him but I built a list a while back that's basically as creature light as possible to abuse her effect into a loop and win with storm cards. Might look in to updating it here soon.https://moxfield.com/decks/XyrpameLtEiVJFcfwszcfw
>>96466381Not him, but yeah that's me. Love me Uril, love me auras.simple as.wait>ControlNot racist, just don't like 'em.
>>96466351sure you get to keep it and it's harder to remove unlike nalfeshnee but I'd still prefer it for something like etali that gets multiple spellsalso every time I see that card I read sun-flavored
>>96466381I play gruul stompy, no need to way as artifacts when Zilortha has built in trample
>>96466381>man I sure do love putting all my eggs in one basket, I sure hope I don't get hit with:- a board wipe- targeted removal- targeted exile- having my shit countered- having my shit bounced- fog effects- stun effects- stax effects- ...
pretty neat I think
>>96466433>also every time I see that card I read sun-flavored
>>96466345>Person B could go "Here's my gruul counters deck featuring 50$ cards like Bristly Bill! It's bracket 1 because it fits the deck building guidelines"I feel like you where thinking about my deck when you wrote this. Damn, it just lives rent free in your head, huh?
>>96466532I was, QT. I do think it's a failing of the website itself, more than your deck building, but I would be mad as fuck if I brought a bracket 1 deck by WotC's definition, and saw you playing that LMAO.
>>96466466>Doesn't even get another trigger when she attacksWorthless
>>96466546Why be mad? It's not my fault, I built the deck before brackets were even a thing! And now that they are, I have no incentive to make it any bracket higher.
She’s attractive, it’s a win
Uh,,,,,UHHHFUCCCCKKKK
>>96466602Looks like shit just like all capeslop "art".
>>96465654The YuGiOh card is easier to remove.
>>96466607going in Axonil asap
>edhrec rank for commander has droppedI better hear lots of praise for breaking out of the mold and playing unique cards
>WotC legitimately can't see the correlation between static protection on everything, red being unable to deal with it, and red being weak in EDH>Instead they just keep shitting out overloaded aggro tools that ruin 60-card
>Clair Voy'ant, Congomancer>2UB>At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one:>Look at the top card of each players library>Look at each opponent's hand>Whenever you attack, choose one or more:>Each player discards a card>Each player draws a card>Each player mills a card>3/4
>>96466607Yeah, this is just what we needed after the abortion that was vivi just came out.
>>96466579My issue ultimately lies with the terrible presentation of the brackets system from WotC; I would probably be less annoyed if they HADN'T advertised Bracket 1 as being memeslop piles, in addition to deck building guidelines flexible enough that one could optimize their deck in such a way, it could be - by rules - Bracket 1, but in spirit, be a Bracket 2+.In a game where 'reading the card explains the card', WotC sure did muddy their description of what the spirits of a Bracket 1, and Bracket 2 deck are meant to encompass.
>>96466664>one of mine is almost in the top 500No. I don't want to hand in my hipster club membership card.
green +1 counter decks really didn't have enough draw yet?
>>96466717nyo
>>96466602>>96466466>og gonti is only one mana less and gets waaaaaay less valuedamn you wotc. I will not buy your ub shit.
>>96466694Would izzet cauldron even want this tho?
>>96466664>edhrec rank for commander has droppedwhat do these words mean?
>>96466717>once per turn
>>96466456Not everyone has the balls to go all in. It's ok if you're a pragmatic coward.
>>96465873>>96466388thanks guys>30 lands>38 landsthe duality of lands
>>96466809>implying phyrexian arena isnt a good cardwaitam I a boomer for still playing phrexian arena?
>>96466818Clearly, you must meet in the middle
>>96466809>draw 3+ every turn is bad now
>>96466607Hold the fuck up. If I copy this dude so he dies to the legends rule, can I just nuke everyone with the copy?
>>96466798I just read the lore because I thought gonti was cool and it turns out he's a genderless they/them.
>>96466818tbf I built that back when ~30 lands was the average for my decks, the list for sure needs an update.
>>96466817I am sick of being a smol bean combo playerteach me how to go balls in
Is this the bargaining stage?
>>96466827It hasn't been good even in Timmy metas since before the pandemic broski
>>96466842>been playing him since kaladesh>had no ideadamn. well at least its not alesha who smiles at cock
>>96466845Follow this guide smol bean>>96466456
>>96466851I refuse to believe that mostly because I was actually playing pretty consistently pre-pandemic.
>>96466849Let me guess. The conspiracy is capitalism?I really hate this faggot.
>>96466852https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/GontiI think all aetherborn are they/thems because they're made of smoke
>>96466868>constantly talking about the size of his sphincter yeah he's not exactly worth listening to
>>96465431Other Saffi decks obviously weren't doing what mine was. Obviously it did need it because it was so good THEY BANNED HIM.
>>96466879damn yahenni too eh?
>>96466664>npcrec
>>96466842I think it's not in the way you're thinking nigga is an aetherborn so he's just made up of energy
>>96466838Do you have infinite mana? Able to make multiple copies? Yeah I don't see why not
>>96466898I am willing to bet you are right but giving these types the benefit of the doubt is a risky move
>>96466827>>96466862>pay 3 do nothing cardoutside of enchantment decks, it's pretty shit nowadays. every black pay 2 draw 2 card is better.
>>96466827yeeah
>>96466664>Captain Sisay is ranked 900there is no way
>>96466845This is around the time I reveal myself as the Big Bean Voltron player and I'll explain how you don't give a shit about any of that.You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so you full send that bitch and put the table on notice. Run some backup creatures that help you stack up your commander and give you board state. If they remove your commander, tough shit, replay them. You want protection, you want interaction, you want to manage aggro at the table.
>>96466928its not a do-nothing cardit will draw you probably between 3 and 7 cards in a game. That's a pretty decent ROI especially if you are planning on playing enough table wide discard.
>>96466862cards like Night's whisper and ancient craving are better, and also better mid to late game topdecks. Phyrexian arena is way too slow even for Timmy battlecruiser metas nowadays.
Why do so many of you guys hate blue/black cards here?
>>96466977>ancient cravingr u sure? I always feel like ancient craving is a bad card when I draw it.
>my commander is in the top 3 on edhrec
>>96466968Posting MVP of my last win; it wasn't even commander damage, I Sigarda's aided a stack on to my Puresteel Paladin and Kobe Bryant here threw him in for 3(0) points.
>>96467003my 2 non-hipster decks are >140>213I have long suspected I have been falling behind the times and this phyrexian arena talk is only confirming that
>>96467008damn that art is pretty cool
>>96467000Ancient craving>for 1 mana more than Arena, draw 3 cards all at once>great late game top deckPhyrexian Arena>for 1 mana less, draw the same amount of cards as Ancient craving over the course of 3 turns>terrible late game top deckYou decide. Phyrexian Arena isn't bad, it just isn't good.
>>96467048Fucking love this lad. I ordered him in borderless foil over that win. My son is going to look his freshest and I'm never taking him out of the deck again.
>>96467066You clearly have good tastelist?
>>96467003>not a single one of my commanders is even in the top 100i am beyond hipster
>>96467078I've dropped it in here a couple times, have a gander.https://archidekt.com/decks/4836920/your_life_ends_five_turns_from_now_balan_wandering_knight
>>96467079out of the total number of commanders we have, 100 really isn't an "even"
>>96467003>>96467038My top decks are#473#297#1982#1590Feels based, man
>>96466970>does nothing when it enters the battlefield>next turn, you get the one card back you just spent on your previous turnyou are right, it's worse than a do nothing card. it's waste your turn to get even next turn. it's a 2 turn do nothing card.
>>96467118wew
>>96467003>Tfw a friend of mine has FIVE of the top ten commanders as decks
>>96467003I used to have a Kaalia, but I took it apart. Same with Animar. Just not fun.>My most popular current deck is Azusa at 330. Least popular is Vendilion Clique at 2287
>>96467130you could argue tho that it will never get targeted/removed because it's so shit
>>96466842Aetherborn inherently have no gender. It's part of their 'biology' as sex less energy beings. Take meds and stop letting trannies live in your head rent free.
>>96467048nta, but Brother's War has a ton of cool artifact creatures. shame the print quality on that set is such dogshit.
>guy has storm, sword of wealth and power, and sylvan library out>playing a bracket 4 satya because >riptide gearhulk -> puts storm 3rd from the top>swing with satya, send his sylvan library 3rd from top >"your deck is too tryhard">is the same guy that literally teared up and begged to keep his hermit druid and disa because he's going through a divorce, instantly wins despite promising not to, then laughs and giggles>same guy that lost to zombie alchemist/intruder alarm/thousand year elixir/phenax and constantly brings it upHave you guys had experience with guys like this? I don't play with him, but he's such a passive aggressive little bitch that he'll sometimes just come over to my table and talk shit. I'm kinda venting because I tried to make amends and do some small talk, but he just reverts to being a cunt when another person is around. I just want to punch him in the gut, but that's a bad idea for tons of reasons. I guess this is kind of a rant post, it's like having a very dedicated, but learning disabled hater.
>>96465851the trick is It never was. At best it was behind in terms of card draw like 10 years ago and mana ramp 20, but ramp is so cheap these days it's not really an issue.
>>96467187>>is the same guy that literally teared up and begged to keep his hermit druid and disa because he's going through a divorce, instantly wins despite promising not to, then laughs and gigglesThat's fucking pathetic bro. I do not understand people who get emotional and tilt from playing MtG. If you're getting your ass kicked or lose, that's just how some games go sometimes. What's the point of taking it personally and getting butthurt?
>>96466607>what if we mixed birgi and ashlingsGenius design. Anyways im building this.
>>96467149>>96467118I love it. Sometimes get it out turn 1 or 2. Nobody every removes it. If it gets board wiped I can bring it back with Sun Titan. It gets cheated in with Academy Rector. Rather have that then Night's Whisper. I consistently draw 3+ cards a game when I get it out.
>>96467118It's one of those bad powercrept cards like solemn simulcrum that was considered a "format staple" for so long that some people will never be able to let it go.
>>96467217>I consistently draw 3+ cards a game when I get it out.>over the course of several turns
>>96467003>Kefka 106 >Clive614>Golbez461>Infinite Guideline625>Ultima688>Gonti631>Terra179>Gilgamensch1179
>>96467238That's a pretty faggy list regardless
>>96466664Did the usual list get updated or something?
>>96467256My kefka deck was parnesse the subtle brush, at 1229 and replaced her. I will put all of your permanents ontop of your deck, lands first, and then I will kill you with black mage damage. then I will windfall and tempt with mayhem show and tellsorry if you have no class or creativity dipshit
>>96467220So common in modern EDH its not even funny anymore
>>96467275>UBslop>ClassPick neither and get the fuck off my internet nerd lol
>>96467003My highest is Hakbal at 18 but I haven't actually upgraded or played it much since putting it together. Teval is the only other one I own in the top 50 but I also want to eventually build Y'shtola. I'm kind of surprised a lot of FFXIV side commanders are as low as they are. Lyse Hext is a really low to the ground voltron commander, Ardbert is a really decent mid power legends matter commander, and Omega has less than 300 decks even though he's a fine Simic blink commander that plays well with stun counters. They can't feasibly be hipster commanders if they're from a UB set.
anyone here playing pauper commander?my friend group doesn't come together often enough, so one friend wants to play some 1v1 on a budget.I'm interesting in building Gut or the stupid bear, but no idea where to start. so far I'm just keeping average mana cost extremely low (<2.0) and cramped ~20 points of interaction into the decks.
>>96467217>3+ cardsAnon... you'd be better off with literally any of the alternatives in that case.
>>96467289>tfw I have 10 foil spongebob cOuNtErSpElLs and the anti ub fags seethe their asses off
>>96467301>I'm constantly called faggot by everyone I know>haha master troller!
>>96467275Sure you will big ff fag lmao
>>96467003my favorite commander is #95
>pick a seller specifically because they have the textured foil urza>order that and a few other little things like lands and foil commons>get a message just before its shipped>"sorry we dont have urza in stock, we'll refund the rest of your order"Die
>>96467187I actually regularly run into the opposite problem>some shitbag brony is running genericsimic.dek>game 1 gets a lot of lands out>gushes over how cool it is to get a lot of lands out like his deck doesn't do that shit week in and week out>talks about how bad he owned us>shits on my deck in particular>game 2>switch decks>hit him hard with the land denial, kill him with hatebears.>shrugs and goes back to talking about how many lands he had in play the game before and how bad he owned us>not so much as a GGat least your autist recognized that he lost long enough to be mad about it this prick just gloats for hours if he gets a win, which he does pretty often its not like his deck is bad or anything if anything its maybe overtuned for this lgs.
>>96467311>>96467312Actually that did happen one time, and he got permanently banned from the only wpn store in the area. :) dont lose your composure and say bad words that go against the rules like he did!
>>96467340>hit him hard with the land denialuhh.. what is this bracket 4 nonsense?!!!!!!!! you're not allowed to just mess with another man's manabase - you have to let me ramp.
>>96467370I would take this response over acting like nothing happened at allthis fucker does this all the time, games he loses never happened games he wins are the greatest stroke of genius the world has ever seen
>>96467354>actually it did and everyone clapped and also someone got banned from the store as a result xdYou sound like a child anon>>96467340>anon gets his ass beat>whines changes deck and spite targets>simicchad is unbothered>anon seethes impotently onlineThread is a goldmine today.
>>96467340Oh yeah? You wanna go up a level? Behold autism supreme. also that sounds super fucking annoying. >75~ years old crackhead looking guy with no teeth>roleplays as smeagol, legitimately creepy because it sounds like smeagol and he's a crackhead>always plays the most powerful shit he can outside of cedh>guy is banned left and right from stores constantly but gets back in>gets extremely butthurt and will literally scream and try to fight you when he loses, but he's old>once a month he brings his son, who he picked up from jail>will smoke a bowl in front of kids and brag about how he beta tested magic and played dnd with garfield>threatened to eat my balls(his literal words as he was raging) once when he cast armageddon+smothering tithe, and I force of vigor'd his tithe
>>96467410that's bullshit but I believe it
>>96467420I'll see if find mention of 'adam' in austin discords rq
>>96467410again I think I would take nerd rage over literally pretending that the game he just lost didn't happen. >what are you talking about >I beat you guys>don't you remember how many lands I had out?
>>96467340So basically, you got your ass beat, seethed about it, decided to hard target the Chad, then seethed harder that he didn't give a fuck? Yeah, I like the guy in your story more than you anon, you really wanna tell stories like this?
>>96467506He's somehow a sore loser and a sore winner. I have no idea how you can read my post and reach any other conclusion.
Temur or Grixis?
>>96467566Temur can land ramp so I like it more. Grixis is great at the extreme high end.
>>96467566Temur had the prettier cards
>>96463210Is this a powerscaling chart? What makes Gay Bolas poster so strong?
>>96467559A sore loser is someone who mopes in their loses. A sore winner is someone who, despite winning, is somehow upset about it. He is neither, based off your tale. You're garbage anon, and he's better than you. Why not bask in victories of the past?
>>96467559>Sore loser>Doesn't bitch and moan at all about losingMeanwhile you do.>Sore winner>Doesn't bitch and moan about how he could have won better or about the game despite winMeanwhile, you're doing this now. Are you sure you aren't just projecting?
When someone does annoying stuff like land denial or counters i start "gassing" the room up until people leave.
>>96467739Yiu do that regardless, Rajeesh
>found blade of the bloodchief for only 1.50€ on cardmarketDon't mind if i do!
>>96467653He's the only known poster in the thread that's stronger than WotC.
Who do I build next?
>>96467943Ur dragon
>>96467947nah, I already have the dragon reanimator guy
>>96467687>>96467727A sore loser is be someone who refuses to recognize he lost.Couple that with continuing to call people shit for losing even after losing himself. You wouldn't tolerate it.
>>96467952Bladewing? He's cool yeah.You should try Rivaz as the commander on that deck instead then, he slaps.
>>96467961Rivaz is the commander. Bladewing in there. Stuff I was considering for my next build: Windgrace, nu Tetsuo, precon Zurgo, Baylen, Ms. Bumbleflower, putting my Asmira deck back together, Minthara.
>>96467943someone that can make use of exhume
>>96467298Pauper Commander is based.Don't forget that ANY uncommon creature can be your commander, not just legendaries, which can let you play some cool cards that have no other home.The format plays a lot like limited, so any way to break board stalls with evasion, force multipliers to make your random dorks lethal, and of course removal will be key.
>>96468085The commander not needing to be a legendary seems like a mistake.
>>96468091why? using legendaries was a flavor decision in the first place
>>96467003why do you play markov? :(
>>96468091There didn't used to be a whole lot of legendaries at uncommon. That's a relatively recent development.
>>96468120I just like vampires...
>>96468329yea, too bad there are 0 cool other Vampire legendaries to pick one. Such an undersupported tribe
>>96468354There are some dual-color ones that are neat but you're cucking yourself so hard by not going mardu sadly
>>96468363>justifying Edgar>cuck fantasiespottery
>>96468368Not justfying it i don't really care if people hate him, i just wish i had other cool options too
>>96468329>https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28type%3Alegendary+type%3Avampire%29+%28game%3Apaper%29At least have some fun with it you tasteless degenerate. You can even go with smug anime "we have Juri at home"
>>96468376All those mardu options are so ass... not playing cards i don't wanna play just to appease people at my LGS where they run stuff like rhystic study lol
>>96468354There really are 0 others comparable to Edgar and in 3 colors
>>96467003I think my highest is Eggman. Most of my decks fall in the 500-1500 decks on EDHREC range
>>96468419Why does it need to be Mardu? Why are you so scared of limitations?
>>96468329Edgar Markov is gayer than Ur-Dragon. Do better, son.
>>96468376ftfy>uh just don't use one of those colors or use blueMaybe I don't want to? Maybe I want a Mardu deck? Trying to insult people for not building a deck that doesn't really fully support the archetype is just you being a hipster. Go whine to WOTC to actually support shit.
>>96468463Cus it has all the vampires i wanna play
>>96468480Yeah but you should use a commander that doesn't have all the cards you wanna play, becauseuh....YOU JUST HECKIN SHOULDARINO
>>96468419>>96468474dont feel molested when your commander is #03 on the edhrec top list then
>>96468085>Don't forget that ANY uncommon creature can be your commander, not just legendariessure, I just need to get a feeling first about what strategies are even viable in singleton pauper before I can really decide on a commander. for now I just want to try a commander that builds itself before delving deeper into normal uncommon territory. >evasion, force multipliers to make your random dorks lethalpretty much what my friend is building with slippery bogle
>>96468518Your excuse is just bad. You shouldn't be insulting anyone because you are aware their only other choice is "thing that isn't what they want." You would have a point if ANY other mardu vamp commander existed.It is a mardu tribe and people want to use them all. Do you bitch at esper Zombie players?>urrr their commander isn't as popularYeah, cause they have multiple esper zombie supporting legendaries
>>96468518I mean it wasn't that serious, luckily i'm the only vamp main at my LGS
Kinda want to build her but then I am going to get focused hard...
>>96468474It's a sad, terminal lack of imagination. Even if you didn't just go to edhrec and pick the most popular vampires, the list will always play as if you did. Deckbuilding is a fun part of the process to me and consensus best commander for highly supported tribes like Ur Dragon and Edgar just end up being so boring to build and play.
>>96468578No, you're just an obnoxious hipster who has no actual point at all and I will be filtering your posts from here on out.Ur dragon is not comparable. Tiamat exists.
>>96468559I don't think you'll get focused.I've only ever played against 1 Shantotto and it was on Arena Brawl not even paper.Definitely a commander that can fly under the radar because literally nobody has ever seen it lol
>>96468605It's funny because Tiamat is way better than ur dragon but people just hate eminence so much
>>96468541what excuse exaclty? did you even follow the replies? ok wait, im expecting way to much from an EDHG poster rn
>in the 90s they didn't use sleeves in tournamentsWhat the fuck this is insane
Nice commander faggot, it's a 4/4 lizard now
>>96468645Playing without sleeves is kino and based and I love feeling the cards in my hand.
>>96468554the ting is, wanting to "play all the Vamps in Mardu" is the closeted excuse of "i wanna thrive with the unfair edge Edgar Markovs eminence ability gives me over the others".be the respectable Chad you could be by going all out in admitting you want all the colors AND Markovs retarded creature spam you dont have to work at all forif you havent, go watch Bram Stoker's Dracula. its gonna vamp pill you some more
>>96468653This has got to be the most disappointing UB product of all time. And I cannot comprehend the idea of making it entirely unusable in commander. Barely any legendaries in the set are playable as a commander.And one of the two archetypes of the set just doesn't have anything akin to the amount of support the other archetype gets.They're trying to make villains a thing with all of 37 existing and them being 4 colors. Spiders have decades of support, though.
>"only once each turn"Sigh.
I play the #1 commander
>>96468675just chase the Soul Stone and tip your LGS for it already it even has Thanos on it!
>no wanderer card that he can actually partner withthis bothers me more than it should
>>96468686Uh bro where are your ancient dragons?
>>96468686Based.Eminence is a kino mechanic
>>96468675To be fair "Villain" is a pretty generic creature type that could definitely be applied to characters in a wide range of media UB or IU after this set.But yeah the sets pretty lackluster looking overall can't disagree with that.
>>96468694People don't play commander because of a soul stone or one ring. They play it because they want Scrimblo Brimblo as their commander in charge of their deck. Making every legendary worse than a non-legendary from another set makes the set almost worthless in attracting for commander, the place where UB belongs.>>96468701Yes, it will get support but that doesn't change that the tribe will be useless for probably half a decade.
>>96468686my friend has a Ur-Dragon changeling deck.It basically is a Sliver deck with extra steps.Very irritating and extremly aggro, but quite alright. But the Timmy in me wishes he just went for fat Dragons instead of being a little non-Hipster
>>96468696This card upset me and I am glad there was one of them being reunited.
>>96468605Why even build your own deck?
>card, regular variantUgly art by a pozzed westerner.>card, expensive variantGood looking art by a japanese artist.They clearly know their internal art staff is shit, why don't they change course already?Should make some anime UBs while they're at it.
>>96468729sounds like you simply have expensive tastes
>>96468696Having Pets and then deciding to travel the planes to "find herself" and to cope with her midlife crisis is utterly irresponsible fuck you mom
>>96468734Maybe, but what i'm saying is they clearly know the jap artists are usually better, that's why they use them more often on the premium cards
>>96468624I play with a group of friends more than at my local store. They already focus me for my Saruman. I like this kind of commander but I feel like that one that gives generic value for a strategy are much better.
>>96468738This, i feel bad even when i leave my kitten alone for only a few hours for commander night.
>>96468729>why don't they change course already?its probably on purpose so they can sell collector packs and secret lairs easier
>>96468697gave Copper to a friend since he was building Miirym
>>96468559I prefer to go wideI don't get often focused hard, and usually only if it's too late already, in typical Izzet fashion
>>96468764sneak her in
>>96468759This Artwork is absolutely hideous, what the fuck is that creepy creature? I would shoot your commander just for existing
>>96468775They need to go back to this.
>>96468807Weird Final Fantasy potato looking gnomes
>>96468686Dragons are fun. They're big, have good effects, have varied effects, are present in all colors, have good art, function exactly how the look in both lore and mechanics, and have deep support mostly from UW and CLB (which feels like the most in-universe set that isn't UW).They have always been and will always be popular outside of pauper formats.
>>96468807thats just what tarutarus look like
They should bring Terese Nielsen back to show that good art is back on the menu and they're not gay anymore.
>>96468729Because its cheap to make the bad art and they are pushing out 6 sets a year now. They also know people will pay out the ass for anime art and can just squeeze the market.
>>96468830but she's gay and anti-tranny
>>96468874Isn't she like racist or something tho? That makes up for being gay in my book.
>>96468830>not gay anymore.terese is a lesbo (forma de terf)
>>96468881She once liked an Alex Jones tweet, which lead to redditards canceling her.
>>96468775That nip faithless looting is my favorite card I own, followed by the nip strixhaven grapes hot.>>96468559How do they even justify this costing the same mana cost as Vivi?
>>96468559You won't get focused at first. Having to actually pay four mana for her to cantrip makes the deck look a lot less threatening than it is. But after you play a game they'll know how scary she is.
>>96468953It's an uncommon
>>96468747>They know they're betterYou are incorrectly assuming your opinion and views are being shared by everyone despite no reason to
>>96468830Let's be honest. You only like her art because she once disliked a tranny. No other reason
>>96468977I'm basing my opinion on them consistently using jap artists for higher end versions of cards, so at the very least wotc seems to agree
>>96468942She gifted art to a far/alt-right podcast to be given away.
>>96468809teysa used to be white and have big boobs...
hot dog cart
I just want to jund people outWhat are my 3 best optionsIm not looking for the 3 best jund commanders necessarily but more 3 most on brand jund em out commanders
>>96469101shattergang
>>96469089the fuck does that have to do with based goddess Therese?
>>96469124if terese drew the hot dog cart would we all love it
>>96469129If Therese drew Nadu then he wouldn't be banned
>>96468809Imagine the sex
>>96468986Oh noesville!
>>96468983Her art is amazing. Second only behind Guay, and it had SOUL
MAKE NEW TOPIC
Speaking of Edgar, if i cast a vampire but it gets countered i still get the token right?Since Edgar says "cast", not ETB
>>96469294lolno.
>>96469340based
>>96469320it happens immediately upon casting the spell, it does not matter if it resolves
>>96464481hey fellow king, its my favorite too, i just got finished cutting blasphemous act and supreme verdict for time wipe and promise of loyalty. The board wipes that let zedruu live are quick good in a control deck where your commander is most of your card advantage, not sure why I didnt realize it sooner.Also tragic arrogance is worth a look.
>found a stack of the cool art mutate cards>thew together vadrock>one of the worst decks I've ever playedI think i'm in love
Where is the new thread... we're going to die...
>Spiderman
spooderman killed us
With great power
anons....it's getting....dark...
this is... the end...
cough.. cough page 10...
I just wanted everyone to know... that I hate black aragorn...
>>96469692cool same
I cast Farewell
I cast Counterspell
>>96469713booouse austere command and make an actual decision
>make new thread>"OMG WHAT A SHIT QUESTION">"OMG IS THAT A HECKIN (EMBEDED) THAT AUTO-INCLUDES ITSELF IF YOU POST THE LINK?!">"WTF WE WEREN'T ON PAGE 11! IT IS ANCIENT /TG/ TRADITION TO NEVER MAKE A NEW THEAD YOU NEWFAG!">"YOU FORGOT THE TITLE YOU RETARD!"etc etcThis is why no one makes new threads
>>96469743brb gonna do all of these things at once
>>96469743not reading this
I would make a new thread but I am too lazy to think of a question
>>96469747This is also an issue. I shouldn't need to think of a good question to make a thread
>>96469747Just ask for anons to post a commander they hate seeing or something
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