Feed me loyalists EditionPrevious thread: >>96446708>Legacies: https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Thread Question:Should dreadnoughts get prime bonuses?
>Gravis autocannons have 3 shots, 4 when stationary>Boxnought with 2 gravis autocannons is only 135 pointsLooks like rifleman dreads are back in style.
Think we're ever getting an Arlatax model? The design already exists in tiny form, but the rules for it are in Legacies>>96456300Boxnaughts just look like a better alternative to other dreads in general this edition, especially if you have a relevant legion trait like RG or IH
Too much to deal with, or an acceptable list?
>>96456407All the other dreads still have their roles I think. Either more durable, faster, or with useful weapon options the boxnought can't have.
>>96456449insufficient Dracosans
>>96456449If anyone has trouble with that list they're a whiny marine fag
>>96456507>a whiny marine fagBut that's all of them
It's well established that the emperor and alter how other people perceive him. I think in 40k, he's actually still alive and hale, but he's been too busy shiny hunting pokemon in gen 3 to give a shit about the empire.
>>96456551Twitter must not have existed in the warhammer 40k setting. You only need to browse that cesspool once to realise humanity is not worth saving.
What does barrage 0 mean on the heavy quad launcher, it isn't a blast weapon.
>>96455022From a stylistic standpoint the leagues aren't even cohesive aesthetically, either.
>>96456603
>>96456603You get to pick targets without having LoS to them, the number after the Barrage rule only ever applies if your weapon also has Blast, and has to scatter if you're picking a target out of LoS.tl;dr an indirect fire rule without making a new rule for it.
What is the consensus on 3.0 Militia?
>>96456718Great if you want to blast people with 20 different types of artillery.
>>96456718MEH
>>96456492>>96456507SO what you're saying is that I should be a bigger dick?
>>96456300Oh no. Not less dakka than autocannon hss. Please spare us.
>>96456449Looks sick. 3000?
>>96456853>135 points unit has less dakka than 300 points unitsI'd fucking hope so.
Sons of Horus forgelord Ebblin Gaher of the 888th company
>>96456957...Sons of Horus? You sure about that?
>>96456966I don't see any other IH icons on him, might change the head though
>>96456966more conversion work than you've ever done in your life, bucko
>>96456957I thought only IH characters could have grav pistols
>>96457077really? fuck I guess I'll change that also here's the guy next to my previous attempt
>>96457104Yeah I'm pretty sure they're IH only, can't even find a grav pistol weapon profile in my liber hereticus.
I'd really like GW to pull their finger from their ass and make a grav weapon sprue like the Disintegrator one so grav weapons can be a normal thing.
>>96457345Plastic breacher kit is bound to have graviton guns in it
>>96456718Sick as hell. Great way to port whatever models you want. Big aura. Truly free of the "is this a good list?" and fully embraces "I am grossly incandescent, deal with it."
I can't decide on how to paint my ligma auxilia minis, any advice from those that already did?>sprayed the infantry portion of one of the runners with wraith bone >painted most of the mini over with striking scorpion green contrast >left the rifles unpainted, I want to paint them and the helmets plus elements of the armor with retributor gold and then shade them with nuln oil >aiming for green suits with bronze/gold armor and gunsBut now I'm considering if I should've done this the other way, just spray them with a gold base and just add some green base on the suits and then run everything over with a shade?
>>96457354Yes but also there should be grav pistols, combi-grav and at least 2 other unspecified grav weapons that haven't been invented yet.
>>96457410>ultraman
>>96457449Looks more like>ULTRamar
>>96457410Contrast will be tinted by whatever is under it, so the green over gold will look different (shiny metallic) than over white. Try it and see if you like it, but don't expect it to be the same
>>96457538The contrast goes over wraithbone. In the gold spray version I'm going to use a green base over it. >But now I'm considering if I should've done this the other way, just spray them with a gold base and just add some green base on the suits and then run everything over with a shade?>just spray them with a gold base and just add some green base on the suits
Reminder that it is your duty to kill any 10th edition players you see. Shoot up your local 10th edition tournament. It's time to win the war against 40k.
>>96456914Fr, what did they expect with that post?
damn gurl why u (Clade Vanus Assassin) so thicc
>>96456407>but the rules for it are in Legaciesisn't everything they're currently not making models for in legacies? tarantulas were in legacies last edition, I wouldn't put too much stock in the legacies divide meaning anything for future releases
>>96457720Truly
>>96457943the stupid asuka knight rules convinced me to convert it into a dumb anime pilot. Just need a suitably weeb head
>>96457967What asuka rule?
>>96457410I think that the most effective way is picking a main color that you apply with a can, airbrush or brush. Then you wash or ink it before blocking in things such as weapons, cables and other things etc.Or you can be fucking retarded like me.
>>96457832Their explanation of legacies is the same as last edition and is basically nonsense. The arlatax didnt have a model and the, acruitor magisterium and secutarii axiarch didn't have models until the very end of the edition, there literally is not a currently for sale magos model, just the archmagos which they proxy as a magos in the fucking core rulebook with an illegal wargear loadout even though the model is totally monobuild with zero options, but yet magi have wargear options in their datasheet, but get no wargear in legacies.Legacies are whatever the fuck, not anything in particular.
I've just realized that any army for 375 points can take archmagos draykavac and an Archmagos archimandrite with chastise the machine spirit, theurgica maxima, and a cyber familiar, with then allows the generic archmagos to chastise two units within 18" every movement phase using draykavac's int as a baseline for being command, giving an effective 10 int, 9 int if they're out of LOS (because cybertheurgies can do that) cast to automatically pin two units and prevent them from trying to move off objectives to avoid vanguard. I would never do this normally because I think it's cheesy even if perfectly legal, but I will have it in my back pocket in case people keep trying to pull fuckery. I only pray that you do not combine this justaerin, for some horrors were simply not meant for this world to witness.
>>96458188Yeah there's even entirely new units (veteran breachers) and weapon options (heavy disintegrators) in the legacies rules. Not that I'm complaining or anything, but it does feel a little random.
Painting checkers is a bitch, but it does look sweet if it's successful. What's everybody working on?
>>96458343Forgot to take pictures yesterday, but I'm slowly working through building despoilers for my word bearers. 15 down, 25 to go.
>>96458343finishing my paladin and my pretor. Checkers very nice:thumbs up:
>>96458355Oh, but I do have pictures of the krios i built this weekend, which is the last one I had to build. Just 1 thanatar...and 18 ursarax and 6 thallax that I'm definitely not putting off...to go
Anyone tested out how fun it is to use a kretos or one of those almost super heavy tanks based on spartans like the cerberus?
>>96458343A lazy militia scheme because I can't be assed to paint like 250 models for a side project to a real standard
I-I'M GETTING RAPED!!! STOP!! ANON!!! HNNNGHHHHH!!!! STOP RAPING ME, ANON-SAMA!!! /hhg/ SAVE ME
>>96458260The thing that is annoying is that they give a very specific reason for things being a certain way and the way things are doesn't reflect that reason. Anyone can spot that its wrong and its just kind of annoying
>>96457832What I meant was, what happens if they releasea new arlatax model next month. Do they just say "keeo using the legacies profile"? Do tjey include a new pdf profile with the model and update legacids to remove the old one? Seems like they'd try to avoid this kind of situation
>>96458194Doesn't seem cheesy to me? It's the way the power was designed to work
>>96458343That's awesome, is he a DA?
>>96458633Probably what they did with the Dark Mech stuff where it was removed from the mission pdf and added to a book
>>96458343Finally decided to go with Iron Warriors as my legion. Building tacticals, then a squad of despoilers.
>>96458660Yes
>>96458680Consider waiting for the breacher kit instead of building despoilers
>>96458708I will do both, but I actually bought some shields and guns off etsy to turn some guys into a squad of veteran breachers.
>>96458586Good job, dude, your image made me pop a boner in public.
>>96456718I can now add more dumb ideas to my old, and now non-existing Penal Cohort. 10/10.
Any way to raise the WS of a unit in 3.0? Or make it more deadly in Melee? I know of the Librarian with Biomancy combo to grant them +2 S and T but would love to find a way to buff my Veteran Breachers even further. Thanks!
>>96459446WS 6 is not even going to matter unless you are fighting another WS5 unit
>>96459446Master sergeant
>>96459500Doesn't that allow me to hit a WS on a 2+ and defend on a 6+ against a WS4 unit?
>>96459385based
>>96459544negative
>>96459385oh hey I had this exact idea for my necromunda gang!
>>96459544No, it makes no difference against WS4
>>96459446The Dark Mechanicum can buff any Malefic unit with Guide for +1WS/BS, but if you do that you need to make sure every single unit you're planning to buff are Prime True Believers, which is exorbitantly expensive and usually denies attached characters and transports. It's almost always going to be better to just get more WS5 attacks, the only places I think that's worth it is if you already have a Malefic squad (Gal Vorbak, presumably Daemons) or if you're trying to enable Crit 6+ on a juicy ranged unit by pushing them to BS6. Planning to try that on AL Headhunters, because that many critting/breaching shots can kill Primarchs.>>96459544No, you need double your opponent's weapon skill to go to 2+/6+. Good thing too, being on the wrong side of a WS gap is already painful enough.
your other option is to play WE and chain bond 2 characters in the unit for +1 to hit on both of them
>>96459560>>96459560I legit am blind and retarded then. I swore it made a difference.Thanks lads. Guess I'll just stick with a Librarian to drop my Breachers with a Caestus.
>>96459446Night Lords get +1 WS if they're in combat with a unit that has a status effect on them.
>>96456718They're playable this edition which is a huge improvement lmao
>>96457683Not your personal Luigi.
>>96459366Bruh
The Night Chuddies
>>96458194It seems like they've decided to make mechanicum be vampire counts so lean into doing gay super wizard shit or perish i guess.
What the FUCK are these melee weapon prices. All I wanted are some bolt pistols.
>>96457683My only duty is what I flush down the toilet
>>96459952>No right handed pistolsShit like this is why a small 3D printed is starting to feel like mandatory, even if just for weapon bits.
>>96460002Ngl having a friend that prints is a godsend.
>>96459952I thought you wanted the truth?
>>96459952Imagine if they had split the kit in two, one for melee weapons and the other for pistols. For both hands. 10 left hand chainswords, 10 right hand chainswords, and all the other weapons is left-right pairs. Then you make a pistol kit with 10 left hand bolt pistols, 10 right hand bolt pistols, and pairs of all the other pistol variants. Imagine the possibilities for conversions and posing! Can't have that.
How are you running your siege tarts? Plasma? Autocannons? something else? Do you keep the stock power weapons or upgrade?
>>96459831Nice and rapeable
Thinking of making 6 suicide saturnine with double disintegrators, just for fun. Given that I have to take an extra shock assault detachment for them anyway, would it be better to have 2 units of 3 or 1 unit of 3?
>>964601411 unit of 3 would be better because you're taking less of the bad thing, what kind of question is that?
>>964601171 autocannons for every 4 plasma blasters.Or I would if I could get the bits.
>>96460117I heard Autocannons > Plasma Blasters. I heard Anything > Plasma, really.
>>96459952should be easy to find someone and split the kit. I don't want ANY bolt pistols but I want all the melee weapons, I'd love to pay $20 for the melee weapons and give someone else all 20 pistols, 2 bolters, all 10 heads and half the arms and hands for $20.
>>96460148Meant 1 unit of 6>1 unit of 3 would be better because you're taking less of the bad thing,Anon I'm taking 18 saturnine, 10 indomitus, 5 heavy flamer tartaros siege, and a tartaros command squad what in God's name made you think I was going for the most optimal choices
>>96460117one of my friends runs his sallamander termis with heavy flamers and I thought it was a novel ideathen I remembered I can take contekar which are just better
>>96460152Why that split?>>96460156Autocannons have more shots if you stay still. but plasma has higher str and a better breaching if you overcharge. When moving both have the same number of shots. the difference doesn't seem as clear cut. Overloaded Plasma has double the chances of breaching, but takes double the shots to kill terminators
>>96460148>Bro too afraid to commit to a bad decisionPussy.
>>96460156>>96460185Plasma blasters aren't heavy and terminators have implacable advance, so the plasma blasters shoot twice when the termies charge.
>>96460183contekar arent better than salamander termies, they're both B or B+ tier
>>96460156plasma is literally only viable for thousand sons, where it is overpowered. It should have been Breaching4+ like Kraken Bolters, with appropriate points cost. Then it'd be useless vs vehicles and swarms but great against heavy infantry, which is literally plasma's entire purpose in lore.
>>96459952mfw this cost me $11 from the recaster, and they have significantly more bits in the box.Stay losing GW man/
>>96460276>have option to duplicate any parts of the kit you want >don't get rid of dogshit phobos and umbra pistols or volkite and plasma and get 20 tigrus bolt pistols instead Why are you a faggot?
>>96460183I need to look at what I should change for my night lords this ed. I probably should invest in something like a chain fist Atramentar squad or a flamer support squad but I’m really tempted to find some stupid new way to use the flying couch to cause statuses
>>96460316>being a tasteless loser than uses mono type gear>Doesn't use pistol upgrades because they're not optimal gamer choicesGo home, hank.
>>96459952say it properly>What the Jesus Murphy are these melee weapon prices aboot eh. All I wanted are some hoser pistols.
>>96460321chainfist atramentar are a horrible ideaGoes from 2 attacks to 1 attack and loses prime advantage.Chainfists are only possible on stuff with 3-5 attacks so the penalty goes away. A Chosen cata champ hits as many times with cfist as 3 chainfist atramentars. The atramentar +1 initiative when charging is also pointless as you should have a status on any unit nightlord terminators will fight (and any status make enemies initiative 1, so your squad's thunderhammers are already initiative 2 even without wasting the prime advantage). Making a squad atramenatar also means a weak champ, making the chosen champ a Master Sergeant suddenly he's WS7 against a status enemy and with 5 attacks (4 with chainfist). As a night lord, you can't even say cfist guy is useless because he'll be dueled - he might win duel with WS7 vs 4-6, but you can simply tag in a regular sacrificial terminator into the duel to strike first against the enemy thunderhammer thing and possibly kill him, leaving you to floor 2-3 terminators with your safe chainfist champ who can't be challenged.
>>96460526I imagine you always stick your choppy HQ in this squad, and that handles challenges. How's Sevatar this edition, is he still top 3 challenge rapists?
>>96460562Seems pretty good. 1/3rd chance for 5+ FNP which is amazing, no real penalty at all (5-6 he gets FNP, 1 he loses Command and becomes Specialist - basically no penatly at all and no more self-damage)It lasts a turn so you can choose whether you're gonna go fight a weak unit if your FNP isn't active or if he's gonna go murder the enemy's Praetor HQ when FNP pops off. 4 wounds instead of 3 base, and when FNP it's 6 wounds to kill him. (someone like Lucius has just 3 wounds)Initiative 6 means basically auto-go first and +1 attack against hammer fighters. With 6 attacks he should get one crit every fight which is AP2 Dmg3 (crit+shred) so that crit alone has a 50% chance of insta-gibbing your average 3w 4++ char. Non-crits still shred on 5+ for Dmg2 which is better than most character's speedy weaponry.WS8 against a status enemy is the other real biggie. Even Kharn is just WS7. If Sevatar has a status on enemy and FNP hacks active, he's almost certainly the best non-primarch in the entire game, with S-tier offense S-tier speed and S-tier defense at same time. If it's not active, he's just very good.
>>96460668* oh, and Precision4+, so when he's not dueling and he rolls those 6s for dmg3 he can choose to just pop all the apothecaries and expensive HQs trying to hide in the enemy unit, or pick the specific people without an invuln save and auto-kill them. It's very flexible as a NL since you can choose to sub someone else into the duel any time you aren't interested in the duel.
>>96460210how are contekar not just better than siege terminators with heavy flamers?
>>96460668* oh and Fear2 which means Sevatar is scarier than Horus Ascended standing on the bridge of the Vengeful Spirit beating up the Emperor of Mankind (fear1)Now that you're allowed to shoot a different unit from the one you charge, that means sevatar's squad could Route a 2nd squad with Panic(2)+Fear(2) heavy flamer, charge the 1st squad and have some other unit in his army suppression or whatever the 1st squad for the +1WS thing.
>>96460702how are they better? You have yet to actually say a single word.
>>96460735do you want me to spoon feed you?read your own rules, nimrod (derogative)
>>96460745I want you to quit being too retarded to speak and yet still sharing your retarded empty posts to waste space in this thread. Ideally you'd also jump off a bridge but the world isn't so convenient.
>>96460758deepstrike off a chair while rimming a volkite charger
>>96460762It's always funny retarded children just repeat the exact same words you already told them. Not enough creativity to ever do anything new, just the IQ of a parrot.
