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STANDARD IS FLOURSHING EDITION

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96365430

>TQ
How would you fix Standard (you cant)
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>Standard?

We only play Commander now, have you seen the NEW SPOODER MAN COMMANDER YET?!!!!!?
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Are you paying your rent, anons? Is important now that we will be full NY in the set
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>>96457216
Can I pay her in premium Commander proxies?
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>>96457216
Hey Giada.
Rent is due.
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>>96457190
>1 deck is 55% of the metagame
>it costs 1000 dollars
Nobody is playing Standard now, thanks MaRo
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>>96457190
This format is fucking hopeless. They banned seven cards and the format is in shambles, they will ban Vivi or Cauldron and the format will be keep being a huge shit thanks to cards like pic related.

What really gets on my nerves is that these fuckers fucking killed Pioneer and neglected Moder and Legacy just to try and “fix” the huge pile of stinking shit that is Standard.

And wait we still have Spooderman and ATLA around the corner for the last garbage act of format destruction.
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>>96457253
>This format is fucking hopeless
Maybe Standard players are just lazy and can't solve for how to beat Vivi?
t. Jim Davis before seven cards (wait no eight cards with Cauldron) are banned
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>>96457190
>TQ
If we have to stick with three years of sets, six sets per year, and constantly pushing the powerlevel of cards, you'd unironically have to have regular bans 2-4 times per year. You can't have a balanced format with this many cards flooding in every year, try to push them as far as you think you can push them, and then have the gall to claim "We're not gonna ban anything because we don't wanna scare standard players away!" If people don't want to get into standard in the first place, as was shown from low turnout for the SCG event, then holding that "promise" doesn't do you any good, does it?
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>55% meta share
SEEEEEEEEEEVEEEEENN
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANS
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>>96457190
You linked the wrong previous thread.
>>96452225
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>>96457305
who cares the game fucking sucks
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>>96457308
>9-second reply
I shouldn't have entered this thread.
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What's next?
Just ashes?
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>>96457305
Get fucked shill, I do what I like
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>White Spiderman
>Black Spiderman
>Indian Spiderman
>Pig Spiderman
>British Spiderman
>Gwen Spiderman
>Spiderwoman
>Spiderman but it's Mary Jane and her daughter
>Symbiote Spiderman
>Symbiote Spiderman but Gwen
>Spiderman noir
>Iron Spiderman
>Punk Spiderman
>Future Spiderman
>Mech-suit Spiderman
>Superior Spiderman
>Cat Spiderman
>Spiderman clone #1
>Spiderman clone #2
>Cosmic Spiderman
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The once yearly ban update policy for Standard is the most backwards shit ever.
>Why aren't people playing Standard? Everyone's complaining about shitty one-deck metas. Should we make our ban policy more flexible to address problems as they come up?
>No, let's make our ban policy more rigid to make players endure broken metas as long as possible. This will surely revitalize Standard!
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>>96457337
>>White Spiderman
>>Black Spiderman
>>Indian Spiderman
>>Pig Spiderman
>>British Spiderman
>>Gwen Spiderman
>>Spiderwoman
>>Spiderman but it's Mary Jane and her daughter
>>Symbiote Spiderman
>>Symbiote Spiderman but Gwen
>>Spiderman noir
>>Iron Spiderman
>>Punk Spiderman
>>Future Spiderman
>>Mech-suit Spiderman
>>Superior Spiderman
>>Cat Spiderman
>>Spiderman clone #1
>>Spiderman clone #2
>>Cosmic Spiderman
Yes, yes.
But have you considered Hot Dog Cart?
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>>96457324
Amongst the ashes, Commander prospers.
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oh my goooooooood this is so good.
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>>96457283
Yeah pretty much. If they want to continue printing cool/interesting/questionable stuff at the rate that they're now doing, they need to seriously reconsider their philosophy around bans.
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I think Wizards should unironically just announce they are going to errata cards for competitive play. Reading the card explains the card is a joke for a reason, we're in the age of textless special art and impossible to read secret lairs. Just say that we are changing it so that Vivi's official rules text is whatever. Yu-Gi-Oh already does it too, it works fine (the game is awful for other reasons.) This would solve the issues with 60 card formats and not really piss off their partners or casuals who won't even care
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>>96457333
Why have you been so determined to split the /mtg/ thread recently?
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Here's Otto-as-Spider.
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And Jessica, finally. Her card's... Fine?
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>Instant ramen
>Overkill
>City pigeon
>pic related
>Hot dog chart
>Aunt may
>Beagle
>Cabbage merchant
What’s next? Think about it an UB and the most ridiculous card you could add to this game.
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>>96457426
>Yu-Gi-Oh already does it too, it works fine

It does not work fine at all. The fact that you literally MUST read the online text for every card cause anything printed on it is a suggestion at best, is an abomination.
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>>96457455
Who cares, you're already forced to memorize what cards do for textless or foreign language cards. I just don't think this is actually a big deal and people will get over it fast once it instantly improves the metagame
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Spiderman is the only Marvel character who can fight Batman in popularity, but even so i care even less than Avatar, the next Marvel ub sets gonna be a misery
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>TQ
>How would you fix Standard (you cant)

Brand new rotation, starting with Spiderman-set. Start from scratch with a brand new card-pool, where the cards are actually designed for 1v1 play.
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Not Bonesaw.
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>>96457448
What the fuck is that anatomy
Where the fuck are her legs coming fro
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The most unrealistic thing in this set.
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>>96457469
>you're already forced to memorize what cards do for textless or foreign language cards.

Those are not as common as you think they are. Almost no one plays with them specifically because they're a pain in the ass. When people do play with them, they get told to stop doing that.
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>>96457495
Good to see WotC is still keeping MTG firmly within its high fantasy roots, even through UB.
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>>96457469
>once it instantly improves the metagame

It won't.
There is literally nothing they can do to fix the metagame except going back to 3 sets per year.
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Also does he look like Jerma in this version of Spider-Sense or is that just me.
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>>96457504
And it won't be common for cards in Standard MTG either. In this case it would be 1 or 2 cards. People pretend like it would be an issue but in reality it wouldn't and that has been proven in other games
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>>96457481
Bonesaw was only in the movie. In the comics Peter fought Crusher Hogan.
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>>96457522
Bonesaw was cooler.
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Also Hydro-Man, who becomes a land. As many predicted.
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>>96457495
I really wanna puke now and that’s something considering the overall “quality” of this garbage of a set.
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>>96457522
I guess the movies didn't want people to confuse him with Hulk Hogan.

>>96457525
This too.
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>>96457504
>. When people do play with them, they get told to stop doing that.

This is about competitive play, but whatever you do with your friends. No one gives a shit about that
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>Bonesaw
Gigadimes.

>Hogan
Jobber.

Simple as.
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>>96457522
I'm aware, it's just kinda sad.
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>>96457429
Because your shilling of SPOOFERMAN is too much for me to handle, plus you killed standard
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>>96457525
Of course he was. It was Macho Man Randy Savage, but he's dead and WoTC doesn't have the rights to the movie versions of these characters.
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They already errataed companions and it more or less worked, but they haven't done it since. It's the sort of thing that can work as long as they only do it once ever 5 years or whatever
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>>96457352
>>96457337
EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT SPIDERMAN, BUT NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THE GUY, THE GUY IN THE CHAIR!
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Talking about companions… Is normal to miss them the more you look at this set spoilers? Is this MaRo’s doing?
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>>96457481
>performer
>>
WHY IS THE MUNDANE HOT DOG CART GENERATING MANA
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>>96457629
Yes. He's a pro wrestler. They're literally actors doing live stunts. Even in the scenario where he's actually fighting real people, he's doing it for a show.
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I get a feeling everyone in the R&D team has mentally checked out of the game. Now it's just a matter of meeting the crazy card quota given by Hasbro. So they have no choice but to strip mine the source material for anything that they can turn into a card.

>Pigeon
>Hot Dog Cart
>Bagel
>Normal object but Spider guy
>Rent
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>>96457511
audible kek
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>>96457527
That's a pretty neat design.
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>>96457639
Why did it need to be a type?
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The food token is a hot dog, as expected.
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>>96457661
It was already a type in the half-unset wasn't it
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And treasure is money. As expected.
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I, an incomparable wizard with the power to bend the laws of the universe, make the reality structure submit and conjure the most powerful and unseen wonders of all time, I conjure…

THE HOT DOG CART!!! Behold my power!!!

Jesus JOTC can’t fall lower right? This pathetic shit is actually the worst of the worst right?
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>>96457665
>Fits entirely within the palm of your hand.
That is the tiniest damn hot dog I've ever seen.
Maybe the WotC employees don't have much to compare it to....
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>>96457672
Money, money, money....MONEY!
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>>96457678
Perspective is a bit fucked but it's at least going along to the tips of the fingers I think.
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>>96457665
Hey! It’s New York! We are in New York guys! How emblematic!!!
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A hot dog cart generates as much mana as an entire planet
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>>96457676
>This pathetic shit is actually the worst of the worst right?
In a few years, you're going to be nostalgic for Hot Dog Cart.
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>>96457668
Yeah.
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>>96457451
The persona 4 meat bowl
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>>96457676
>>96457700
>In a few years, you're going to be nostalgic for Hot Dog Cart.
AND
THAT'S
A
THREAT
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>>96457700
AND THAT'S A THREAT
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>>96457451
Dragon Ball Buu’s chocolate person
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>In a few years, you're going to be nostalgic for Hot Dog Cart.
The absolute fucking state of this game.
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>>96457672
>didn't make the default food a bagel too
oy vey
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>>96457190
Does anyone have the MaRo Monument of Sin edit? I feel like it's become more relevant than ever.
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>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=72661&f=PREM
32 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71876&f=PREM
45 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71875&f=PREM
40 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71540&f=PREM
81 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71249&f=PREM
107 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71247&f=PREM
60 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71452&f=PREM
50 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69859&f=PREM
177 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM
66 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68886&f=PREM
84 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68297&f=PREM
279 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68163&f=PREM
92 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=67416&f=PREM
52 players

Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
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THE
FUTURE
IS
NOW
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I am forever saddened that deck restrictions for a payoff has forever been tainted by companions.

It was a good idea, implemented in the worse way possible
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>>96457770
>Not split mana
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>>96457451
Sticking only with Marvel
>Chimichanga
>Shawarma
>Fanfiction
>Cosplayers
>Social media
>Internet trolls
>Cassette player
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>>96457770
>Established Titles
>In current year
Shouldn't it be Squarespace or Nord VPN or something?
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>>96457805
Please understand, the MTG development cycle is always a few years behind...
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>>96457698
You can't eat a planet, anon.
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I'm cope chuckling on every single reveal, this never ever should have been a thing, how many resources and how much time are being stolen from real magic sets
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>>96457665
No wheat cakes?
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>>96457864
>how many resources and how much time are being stolen from real magic sets
At least half,
but noting that UB sets have 4-5 year dev cycles and real sets have 18 month dev cycles, it's almost certainly closer to ~75-80%ish
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What ended up being at the center of the black hole in Edge of Eternities? I stopped paying attention halfway through
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>>96457892
>What ended up being at the center of the black hole in Edge of Eternities? I stopped paying attention halfway through
Who cares.
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>>96457892
The Soul Stone
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>>96457892
>What ended up being at the center of the black hole in Edge of Eternities?
Loot's breast archive.
Don't worry though, he moved them somewhere else before anyone could foil his plans.
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>>96457894
>>96457903
>>96457906

what's with the reddit faggotry?
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>>96457892
Nothing, it's just a black hole.
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>>96457931
Pretty sure the Soul Stone was in the black hole though, go look up the EoE lore
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>>96457892
The same thing at the center of all black holes- a bunch of matter. It's not a special black hole or anything, it's just the 1000th one the Monoists made.
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>>96457963
Do you mean the Endstone?
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>>96457971
Technically it's a weird magic black hole, but that's all of the black holes they've made. There's a lot of raised questions by the Monoist beliefs of what's in the black holes (mainly The Faller and whatever the next world is) but that just doesn't really matter for EOE as a set. It's world-building they may or may not go back to later.
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>>96457971
Why did they want to prevent the bad guys from throwing the Endstone inside a black hole then
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>>96457987
Because by the Monoist beliefs (and maybe the reality of it), it'd mean the Endstone was connected to the ultimate end of the universe, and thus would be able to manipulate literally all of reality (because it can only change the past and not the present or the future). It didn't seem interested in actually DOING that, it just wanted to get back to the Vaar, but the crew didn't know that for sure and the Monoists were still trying to get it anyway.
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I cast Toyotathon, letting me tutor for any number of Toyota vehicles from my deck to the battlefield.
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>>96457451
traffic lights
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maybe the ygo crossover was the UBs we got along the way
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>>96457987
The Monoists think that throwing the Endstone inside of a black hole will give it the ability to control all past and future because the universe will end in black holes and that's based. The Summists don't agree with the Monoists in much but they sure as fuck aren't risking them being right in this regard.
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>>96458003
Oh SNAP
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>>96458003
In response I play Check Engine Light to destroy all vehicles.
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>>96458040
fool, toyotas are immune to Check Engine Light!
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>>96457495
I hope this gets reprinted too.
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more news about the proxy art set
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>>96458159
>fake magic gets real magic cards
bizarro world
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>>96458159
Thoughts on what City Pigeon, Beagle and Hot Dog Cart could be in actual real Magic?
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>>96458159
>Ur-Spider
I mean I guess it makes sense as a thing to exist but what a lore drop.
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>>96457527
That is a cool design. It either helps flash strategies or aggro strategies but not both.
>>96457633
Anus mana being generated by hot dog cart. It is fitting.
>>96457700
yeah, and that is the sad thing.
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>>96458159
Don't tell me those are the new Lorwyn Elf look....
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so when are getting a full list of 2026 slop?
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>>96457975
Did Thanos ever get the EndStone?
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Here's the proper Cosmic Spider-Man reskin.
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>>96458268
soul
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The guy on the sleeve is "Druneth, Reviver of the Hive'.
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>>96458230
Be prepared, Anon-kun.
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>>96458405
how are people not sick and tired of marvel yet
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>6 more sets next year
>Half of them UB garbage again
Let me out, chief, I can’t deal with this shit anymore…
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>>96458182
I just hoping the NYC pigeon will simply be a New Capenna pigeon
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>>96457216
I don’t even get the flavor on this one. Are my creatures and treasures stand-ins for gainful employment? Is a card representative of having shelter for the month/turn?
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>>96458650
I think tapping the creatures is meant to represent working for rent. The most flavourful thing to gain would be life but that's weak, so it's card draw. The treasures only being tapped and not sacrificed is another mechanical thing more than a flavour thing, them being there at all is the flavour part.
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>>96458650
it probably was a stax piece that got reworked for not being wholesome
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>>96457481
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Anyway here's The Spot because Spider-Verse had him. He would definitely not be here otherwise.
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>>96458268
>Arena-only
why
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>>96458813
Because making a whole new print sheet isn't worth the money.
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>>96458810
why isn't he 4 mana? this is so fucking weak even for casual commander
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>>96458813
-“because fuck you, piggy, that’s why, now buy those overcosted packs and stop asking”.-Mark Rosewater.
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>>96458830
5 mana 4/4 that does a Banishing Light+ and doesn't die properly seems 'fine'...?
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>>96458810
Can exile itself.
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>>96458853
Honestly feels fitting, flavour-wise. Because he only returns the cards on a death, so he could just show up, fuck up a portal and stumble into it and be gone forever.
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>>96458405
I just want nu-lorwyn in hopes that FIRE design elves would make it modern relevant again. Just give me this one OK???
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>>96458405
I'd say one of these is Star Wars but didney is really pushing their SW card game right now. I don't think we'll get any IPs with a successful ongoing card game like anything in Lorcana or One Piece.

With the theme of just making popular nerd shit in to sets, I'm predicting a DC universe set and another popular gaming IP like Elder Scrolls.

For secret lair sloppa, more retarded shit. But I'd love to see OSRS equipment. Give me the dragon dagger and noxious halberd.
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>>96458810
>Anyway here's The Spot because he's popular now. He would definitely not be here otherwise.
What did you expect?
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>>96457426
Whenever YuGiOh erratas a card, they reprint it with the new text and print it into the ground to ensure there's more correct copies than incorrect ones in circulation.
WotC, meanwhile, won't even reprint Companions with correct reminder text because they're afraid it would devalue Vintage staple Lurrus.
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>>96458860
ok, I like it
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>>96458944
they aren't going to do DC this close to Marvel. I'd wager it's warhammer or lotr 2: amazon shit.
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>>96459070
Yeah you're right. Disney is petty enough to order wotc to hold off on DC for a few years to get the marvel IP
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>>96457518
>Spider-sussy
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>>96458162
regular magic is fake magic now, so all bets are off.
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>>96458860
wtf is with the pit webs? such a weird design choice.
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I was completely ignoring universes beyond sets until now, but looking up cards for my suspend shitbrew, I must say that the Doctor Who set has some pretty sweet shit.
Other than the suspend-related cards, this looks very fun too.
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POWERFUL, WHITE, CARDS
Lol
Lmao
Kek
Chuckle
Guffaw
Tee-hee
Giggle
Snicker
Grin
Ha, ha, ha.
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>>96459293
The web pits were part of Ditko's original design, so they stuck around for a while, but as time went on most artists completely dropped them and now it's basically a forgotten relic. Even flashbacks set early in Spider-Man's career will pretend they didn't exist.
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>>96459413
This is FUCKING DISGUSTING. How the fuck has Wizards managed to create a format where green and white are making it into the top 32?
FIX THIS RIGHT NOW WIZARDS.
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New Terramorphic Expanse/Evolving Wilds coming through.
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>>96459507
soon we'll be able to make a deck with 60 evolving wildses
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>>96459525
The possibilities are endless!
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Standard Brawl on Arena is actually far more balanced than standard, it’s basically 60 card 1v1 commander. I wonder if they will ever try to make brawl a real format, maybe without singleton rules
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I know they've teased some stuff between Spider-Gwen and Miles in the comics, but have they done a Spider-Verse-style hangout like this in those or is this just basically completely riffing off the movie.
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>>96459704
You know what we need?
MORE. RED. IMPULSE. DRAW.
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>>96459704
It's sideways instead of upside down, but yeah it's clearly inspired by the movie.
The Miles x Gwen ship in the comics is always weird to me, because Miles is 16 at most and Gwen is in college.
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>>96459732
I'm pretty sure Miles is meant to be 18/19 nowadays? They timeskipped a bit after Secret Wars, I think.
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Seems like they never printed any white cards with infect or toxic that also have symmetrical life gain? Maybe they thought it was a frustrating play pattern to be gaining a lot of life while having your life total not matter at all.
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>>96459507
>sacrificing new york to get a basic
REJECT MODERNITY, RETURN TO NATURE
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>>96457451
Do Americans think cabbages are a modern developement
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>>96459800
>Do Americans think
no
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>>96459757
Nah, Miles is still in high school. Time-skips in practice don't mean shit, if Marvel wants a character to stay a kid, they will, same with Kamala Khan or Franklin Richards. Marvel has always regretted letting Peter Parker graduate high school only 3 years in and they don't want to repeat that.
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>>96459507
I guess this one could be reprinted in-universe for other urban settings where Terramorphic Expanse or Evolving Wilds wouldn't work, like Ravnica or New Capenna.
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>>96459842
They turned Kamala Khan into a Mutant at College in New York in the most recent run so it can happen but Miles will stay in High School
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>>96459704
That gwen looks like the daughter of gwen and miles...
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>>96459863
Kamala explicitly is still a high school student though, she's just doing a special program at ESU so that she has an excuse to hang out in New York with older mutants. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
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>>96459907
Meanwhile Franklin went from a child to "clearly mid-teens" after Secret Wars. Sliding timescale is a fuck.
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>>96459911
Franklin and Valeria cheated because they were in another dimension and aged faster due to time dilation. Basically, writers didn't want Valeria to be 3 years old anymore so they aged her up, and decided they might as well make Franklin a teenager while they're at it.
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>>96459911
That was explained as Franklin and the FF were outside the universe, and as such,h the sliding timescale didn't affect them for several years.
It came up in a Power Pack issue where one of them was over 21 now, due to this, but was still legally considered a minor by the law
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>>96459925
>>96459926
Comics are dumb.
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>>96459933
Well yeah, that's always been the case
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You are dumb.
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Really i have never been more glad being an Arena player. All these cards go from ridiculous to hot garbage and i would be seriously embarassed ever playing any of them in paper.
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This is the dumbest set ever and we gotta wait through two of these before returning to sane magic again.
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>>96460130
I'm looking forward to getting more Changelings in Lorwyn.
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>>96459712
>impulse
>lasts for TWO turns
>in the color of low cmc curves
Nobody believes you Nosewater
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>>96459704
>more BLACKED fetish shit
JOTC are obsessed
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>>96457269
Nah there isn’t a great solution. You would need artifact removal in Dimir or something similar.

The other issue is that red has the remaining decent removal. Which leads to the other issue which is if I’m playing red… then fuck it might as well go Izzet.

Their key fuckup was letting stuff like cut down and sheoldred rotate out without a suitable replacement. You can’t have half the color pie with a broken card and all the good removal + draw discard enablers and expect black to answer it with fucking nonsense like sorcery speed removal that still has downsides for some fucking reason.
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>drive to the hood for Yugioh locals with my mathematically optimal 41 card two Droll and Lock Bird deck
>only people there are three eunuchs in two skirts playing Commander with Universes Beyond cards

WOTC is going to create the next Hitler
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>>96459686
>They could fix standard by making it gay and retarded
Good idea anon. You should send them your resume.
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>>96457190
Actual previous thread
>>96452225
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>>96460367
Have you heard the good news about our Lord and Savior, Mono Red Aggro
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>>96457495
So arena is getting the gay dads version.
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>>96460412
Reminder to the shills: I'm going to keep doing it, and you can't stop me.
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>>96459370
It ends up being kind of shit. Like it’s about as good as if you had just stuck a bunch of brainstorms and whatever in your deck.

The other problem is that the stuff that does the take one bury two is all over cost versus ponder/preordain/brainstorm.
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>>96458159
Remember to preorder to show you love magic's in-universe IP.
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>>96460393
I didn't say it would be good, but it makes sense since commander is their most popular format and cedh with 4 players does not work. It wouldn't be worse than existing standard anyway.
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>>96458398
Boy talk about something that fucking sucks. Slivers are so outclassed by the current design paradigm. A deck full of cost 4 does one shitty aura thing is lame as fuck.
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>>96458268
So the scions are the human and the spider. It appears that spiders are the least racist tribe in the multiverse.
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>>96457324
Pauper
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>>96460494
Wouldn't that be Changelings?
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>>96459033
They already did they are some of the cheapest version of the cards
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>>96460508
Changelings are race-blind which means they are racist in the current political climate. Spiders uplift the marginalized humans which means they are anti-racist.
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>>96460486
CEDH with two players is vintage which is actual trash. Any format that gets dominated by white stax is just abysmal. Also fags that want to larp like their deck isn’t proxied. If it wasn’t proxied I would literally stab you in the parking lot on principle.
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>>96460444
Learn better thread making skills please.
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>>96458813
We need at least a sixty percent audience.
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>>96460605
>Only 9% want a Unverse Beyond-less format,
I am 100% confident this is a lie. I am 90% confident is is a lie founded on manipulating statistics.
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>>96460605
Every single person I know who plays Magic has expressed grievances over UB being brought into Standard. Literally every single person, without exception. Even the newer players I know who got into MTG through UB and only play Commander tend to agree that UB should not be in core formats.
Where the everloving flaming F U C K did Mark get that 9% number?
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>>96460591
Normally I would agree with you, but he has the Trips of Truth
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the game...
is evolving...
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>>96460655
Oh you are totally allowed to just make up shit in marketing. The unspoken rule is you don’t call bullshit on another guys numbers because they are all at the end of the day fairly indefensible.

He pulled those numbers out of his ass. Have you ever heard of someone being asked their opinions about magic?

Now imagine how fucking abysmal and gay the companies that provide focus groups are in the modern era. They all live in a fantasy world where the demographics resemble the TSA roster.
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>>96459704
...this is just Sleight of Hand.
Literally 99 casts out of 100 this is just a red Sleight of Hand.
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>>96458268
ngl i like the concept of the ur-Spider, dumb and simple
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>>96460655
The people I know who started playing because of Final Fantasy don't want UB in Standard for a variety of reasons.
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He quit because Wotc used AI and now Wotc is using his art because of Marvel.
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An ad of an ad.
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Team
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More vehicle
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>>96460915
Green
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I'm tired boss...
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>>96460803
>The people I know who started playing because of Final Fantasy don't want UB in Standard for a variety of reasons.
I know. Same here. The worst response I EVER see is people tacitly agreeing to UB not being in Standard it without committing outright. I have not met even a single Magic player, online or otherwise, who thinks UB should be in Standard. Furthermore, almost every MTG player I know is VEHEMENT about it not being in Standard. They literally can't mention how much they hate it being in Standard enough.

i really want to know where Mark got that fucking 9% number. It is just total schizophrenic delusion to me. An absolute nonsense stastic fabricated from whole cloth, running contrary to all the lived experience of literally every single person who plays the game. Where the FUCK does he get the balls to say shit that is SO obviously a lie?
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>>96460947
New citizen token this time human
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>>96458182
It's no Urza's hot dog cart.
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>>96460956
Who really gives a shit if they balance the format properly? At the end of the day it’s the same shit just now it’s Spider-Man doing it instead of whatever other fucko they come up with.

I’d rather have spider man than fucking Sami or whatever the green white TSA agent was.

Now if it’s actually good fantasy design vs spider-man. I agree fuck spider man.
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>>96461013
>Who really gives a shit if they balance the format properly?
EVERYBODY
LITERALLY EVERYBODY GIVES A SHIT
NOBODY FUCKING WANTS UB IN STANDARD
NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON WHO PLAYS MTG WANTS UB IN STANDARD

LITERALLY
EVERYBODY
GIVES A SHIT
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I've been waiting for this hybrid card.
Now we wait for the W/U version.
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>>96461037
me on the left
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>>96461037
Seriously lame that it has two pips instead of one. Why make it hybrid if you're just going to make it harder to cast anyway?
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>>96461036
Only 9 percent care
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>>96461058
I will not believe your lies, Mark.
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If Mark's statistic is correct, then 91 out of every 100 videos commenting on the subject of UB entering standard should either be either positive or neutral about the change.

I recall zero (0) videos with positive or neutral sentiment about the change.
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>>96461073
Not everyone who disagrees with you is Mark Rosewater.
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>>96461050
Because otherwise it's way too easy to splash
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>>96461036
I want to draft and play standard. I think marvel shit is gay as fuck but as long as the gameplays there whatever.

So I dunno man. It’s not really everybody.

They just fucked up and handed izzet a ton of tools and a fast ramp card. They’ll just ban cauldron and it will be fine. Cauldron wasn’t doing anything interesting otherwise and the thing it is doing is degenerate. Once you do that it’s a decent meta.

Also Final Fantasy and the based nips brought back anime tits and made the blue hairs seethe. So not all bad.
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>>96461092
The Nose Saga
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>>96461050
I mean it’s not hard though. I cast it on curve instead of sticking my thumb in my but and waiting for a plains or a forest.

Hybrid mana is underused in my opinion.
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>>96461099
>I think marvel shit is gay as fuck but as long as the gameplays there whatever.
This is you explicitly stating you would rather it not be present, than be present. But doing so in a way where you remain a milquetoast fence sitter. That's pathetic, mate.

Assert what you believe. Don't be a coward.
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>>96461088
Because YouTube faggots are representative of the general population.
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>>96461121
They're actually over-representative of the group that would be most prone to accepting UB in Standard.
And they still have effectively 100% consistency in rejecting it.
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when the thread is so upsetting to shills they image spam it to bumplock, kek
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The most powerful white card reprinted.
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>>96461148
Unfortunately for them,
the threads never end.
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>>96461148
It's spoiler season.
Yesterday we had less spoilers
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I remember looking up a card yesterday that either rewarded you for casting spells from anywhere that is not your hand or dimished the cost for these cards, but I can't remember the wording to look it up.
Does anyone know what card im talking about?
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>>96461187
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3A%22anywhere+other+than+your+hand%22+%28game%3Apaper%29
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>>96461129
I feel like this is how retards get tricked into media narratives. “Everyone thinks this thing! Find out why you should too!”

It’s nonsense dude. They are effectively worthless at judging your market. At best they are a tool to create engagement and outreach, but their opinions are worthless.

I mean fuck dude they probably paid for half the opinions anyway.
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I'm making some custom tokens to have printed. How does this look? I'm mostly concerned with getting accurate ABU style wording.
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>>96461153
God I fucking hate that shit

>>96461187
I was going to say that’s probably paradox. I think that was only the dr who set though.
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>>96461187
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>>96461099
>anime tits
Where?
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>>96461238
About to hit you for 2^7 trample damage bro.
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>>96461209
Where is good to get tokens printed that don't look ass? I'm also looking to make some custom karnstructs, the official ones look like shit and are uggo
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>>96461263
MPC probably. Most of their shit looks fine. Just make it 800 dpi.
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>>96461263
You can sometimes get a local print shop to do them but otherwise most people swear by MPC, although shipping costs add up quickly from what I hear.
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>>96461199
odd choice of art, should have picked one art with Superior Spiderman manhandling the Sinister6.
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>>96459033
>WotC, meanwhile, won't even reprint Companions with correct reminder text because they're afraid it would devalue Vintage staple Lurrus.
we literally got reprints of every companion, with some amazing art, and corrected text.
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>>96460778
now this is a reprint I like to see, opp agent will be afordable MTGO, looks like the insiders already knew this was coming
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>>96461280
I mean, at least the art style of comics translates better to cards than the FF shit. I somehow hate these Spiderman alt arts significantly less.

And none of that 2 names bullshit. So annoying when newfags go "I play lightning, FF goonslop #55!" and i need to pick up the card just to find out it's some reskinned $5 rare from 10 years ago.
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I was trying to think of removal they could print to match the busted threads in Standard. Is this too strong?

Get the fuck out 1W enchantment
When this enters exile target nonland permanent with mana value 4 or less until this leaves the battlefield
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>>96461429
Just put path in standard desu
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The Trap
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Prison Break
4B
Sorcery
Uncommon
Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it.
Mayhem 3B (You may cast this card from your graveyard for {3}{B} if you discarded it this turn. Timing rules still apply.)

Flavor Text: "If you're tired of prison life, come with us!" - Electro, Max Dillon
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>>96461167
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>>96461153
White* card

*(actually domain kikery since JOTC can’t make an actual decent MONO White flash O-ring)
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>>96458650
your creatures are rentoids and you must oppress them to finance your boardstate.
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>>96461652
They did already.
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>>96461652
The term you're looking for is Fake White.
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>>96457190
Seems they really wanted to avoid the spiderverse designs.
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>>96461674
>Four mana
>Three mana
So in another 10 years we’ll get a fair and actual fire design O-Ring, cool.
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>>96461672
>Tapping down nigs to pay my income
Holy shit JOTC got a little based there for a second
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The base Spiderman costed at least $594,000. So arena had to commission $247,500 worth of art.
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>>96461727
>The base Spiderman costed at least $594,000. So arena had to commission $247,500 worth of art.
Based Disney reminding WotC that it's a small fry.
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>>96461036
>NOBODY FUCKING WANTS UB IN STANDARD
I do.
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Why does the art look like it's AI generated?
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>>96461757
because AI art steals its style from other places
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>>96461757
Because you've been buckbroken by slop.
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>>96461757
it is. the flag in the spidermanUK card is so obviously AI generated I feel sorry for anyone that thinks that shit was made by a human. zoom in on the details, the scale is off, the cars have no rearview mirrors, its ambiguous which direction some of the cars are facing, theres a left turn guideline paint that leads to nothing. Everything about the card just feels off.
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>>96461857
His artwork is pretty suspicious Wotc should Blacklist him
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>>96461943
Hands are Emrakulian
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>>96461950
The words are squiggly
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>>96461955
4 fingered hands are especially egregious in this art piece.
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>>96461962
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Molten Man, Incarnation of Hellfire
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Legendary Creature - Elemental Villain
When this enters the battlefield, search your library for a basic Mountain card and put it onto the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library.
This ccreature gets +1/+1 for each Mountain you control.
When this leaves the battlefield, sacrifice a land.
"Is this the end? Is this the end of Spider-Man?"
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>>96461727
>Artists charge more than double for UB
Based but why?
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>>96461971
They don't own the UB art so they can't sell those cards unlike regular art ones.
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>>96461965
More 4 fingered hands
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>>96461988
Yet up closed he edit in the previously unseen finger.
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>>96461971
Rush order.
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>>96461994
For some reason another appears despite her other arm being faraway.
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>>96461998
He's also a transphobe. Another mark for Wotc to blacklist him.
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>>96462003
Another one of his infamous 4-fingered hands. He even called it caught cheating how blatant can you.
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>>96457448
I will build death and taxes and I will lose still but I will waste your time
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>>96461994
He made Aragorn white this is another strike against him.
1.Racist
2.Transphobic
3.Use A.I.
Why would Wotc agree to work with someone that opposes their view points.
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diffusion models have little problems with hands anymore
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>>96462015
>anon learns about perspective
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>>96461955
His right hand is fucked in this one.
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>>96461962
there isn't a single 4 fingered hand in this art. Several instances of fingers mostly overlapping but all hands have 5.
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They nerfed Bagel and Schmear. It should have had lox in it
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>>96462224
i hate this shit game
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>>96460961
Gonna go against the grain here and say I really don’t mind black people on cards, but if they’re gonna do it so often you figure they could at least commission artists that don’t all draw them like fugly slack jawed apes.
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>>96462271
I don't think most people do, the issue is their aggressive shoehorning of them in everywhere, race swapping etc. /mtg/ tends to be very liberal with their definition of black too when some are very clearly just in shadow.
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>>96460915
>>96460934
So I'm guessing this is a cycle and one for each color? What's next, bus? Taxi? Truck? Van? Getaway car? Helico-?

>>96460942
...How is this not a Vehicle?
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I feed my bagel and schmear to my guy in a chair, who then crews the passenger ferry to attack your Jace
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>>96462224
MaRo actually said he wanted this to be a 0-Mana artifact, but was told by the design team that they're not allowed to make 0-Mana artifacts anymore for balancing reasons because somebody always finds a way to abuse them.
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>Millennial writing: the MTG set
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>>96462481
Spider-Man is over 60 years old...
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>>96461037
Will we ever get a Red one?
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>>96462483
yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that this mtg in particular feels more reddit than even other recent mtg sets
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>>96462469
>Mark wanted to ruin the game again but was stopped
HMMMM
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>>96461209
Looks absolutely fucking sweet anon
post the original art, I want it
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>>96462519
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>>96462541
Thanks chief
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New SpiderBread
>>96462557
>>96462557
>>96462557
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>>96461280
>Tangle

That's a spicy turbofog card. Turbofog standard?
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>>96462903
>>96462903
>>96462903
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>>96460915
that looks AI af
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I don't know which thread to follow.



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