Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>96454608
>>96459503
mmmm i love sloppa
>>96459572we know
where or
>>96459682In your heart, dearestIt's always with you in your heart
>>96459685I will pin my build right next to it in there then
Rolled 14, 107, 90, 5, 53 = 269 (5d111)>>96459661come on, give me something good
>>96459624Didn't read, Iris.
>>96459729i got scared on the first 2, especially 'biker', but the last 3 saved her
Rolled 59, 106, 56, 109, 60 = 390 (5d111)>>96459661
>>96459794>maid>deaf>bratty>surfer>bookwormThematically incongruous. Discarded.
>>96459802>Discardedthat's cheating
Rolled 102, 9, 52, 49, 27 = 239 (5d111)>>96459661Please no crazy bitch
>>96459816Bad waifus need to be recycled, so their parts can go into future good waifus.
>>96459838>Angry Sensitive Motherly Exhibitionist KnightI asked no crazy bitch. Why life is so cruel?
>>96459860>I asked no crazy bitchyou asked for something specific, never do that
Rolled 31, 110, 54, 48, 50 = 293 (5d111)>>96459661Please give me a dominant crazy bitch who wants to ride my cock all day
Rolled 28, 9, 12, 18, 44 = 111 (5d111)>>96459661uhhhhhh I'll have today's special with extra spice
>>96459989>knight, vain, tomboy, appreciative, paranoiddelicious roll, give my compliments to the chef
>>96459503Teacher, Petty Grimoire, WildshaperTeacher and Petty Grimoire for power stacking to hell and also to bring some convenience to this troubled worldWildshaper to have hawt feral on human secks
Are PDF files ever coming back?
>>96460734I hope not they were shit
>>96461207As shitty as they were, they had one plus - they made it easy to share text heavy WIPs before you put them in proper formatting.
>>96461228Can't you post .txt here?
>>96461254Nope. Just the images. I think I'll just use googledoc share links.
>>96461301
Rolled 36, 35, 97, 45, 41 = 254 (5d111)>>96459661pls no evil gf
>>96461207>he did not enjoy spirit conscript and universal warwhat a sad existence you are
>>96461463>Wise sarcastic violent protective hackerthis is just the bitch from watch dogs
>>96461467They were shit just like Otter Reincarnation is.
>>96460030Actually peak
>>96461495comparing them to outer reincarnation is like comparing a dinosaur to a chicken.
Are we still being invaded by outer redditors or did they finally go away
>>96459661Let me try this
Rolled 85, 74, 49, 103, 10 = 321 (5d111)>>96461547Fuck, messed it up
>>96461553>Confident, Exhibitionist, Pyromaniac, Pathetic, EvilGreat, she's fucking psycho
>>96461545they are still arguing in the previous thread
Post Outer Reincarnation.
>>96462452
>>96462460
>>96462467
>>96462452This is one where I kind of like the idea of the general influence I might have on the world, but in which I nevertheless suspect that I would not find it personally very satisfying or fulfilling to actually live the life if it were somehow realized.
Rolled 87, 29, 10, 74, 51 = 251 (5d111)>>96459661Lets see.
>>96462452How can the author of this cyoa make it as popular as Outer Reincarnation?
Rolled 41, 24, 36, 5, 52 = 158 (5d111)>>96459661gibba a good girl
>>96462679>A Sensitive and Wise Intelligent Protective Soldier
I'm the guy who made this cyoa. I'm working on a much more complex cyoa where you choose 5 abilities out of 100 or so potential abilities to make a character. What archtypes do you want to make sure are in the game? Think in gameplay terms, like "Evasion Tank", "1HKO sniper" or "Monster-Summoner".
>>96462834Can I roll? The alternative is that I need to read through 100 abilities and I might lack the will to do so.>"Evasion Tank", "1HKO sniper"Fuck no, video game terminology is a mood killer. Nothing wrong with the idea, just rephrase it.>"Monster-Summoner"Too broad, surely many interesting options come from association with different kinds of monsters (demons, elementals, angels)
>>96462834I want to see, I want never to be seen, and I want to live foreverA trap guy would be cool, but the traps should be magic, and magical laws and geas's are cool
>>96462848>Fuck no, video game terminology is a mood killer. Nothing wrong with the idea, just rephrase it.I don't mean that the cyoa will use videogame terminology, I just mean use it here so I understand what you want.
>>96462855>traps should be magicTake the landmine pill.
>>96462834Character creators in vacuum leave me cold, so I'd want a setting, but I guess that's not what you're going for
>>96462858But anon, all snipers are 1hko snipers, and evasion tanks cannot exist as evasion runs counter to blockingOutside of gamified systems these words are meaningless
>>96462848>>96462855How about I list the basic categories. Is there anything I'm missing?>Melee combat abilities>Ranged combat abilities>Tank abilities>Stealth/Ambush abilities>Mobility abilities>Building abilities>Transformation abilities>Summoning abilities>Status-effect abilities>Support abilitiesI'm working on about ten of each.
>>96462874>evasion tanks cannot exist Have you never played an MMO?
>>96462897You mean a video game?Yes, I have played video gamesI have also been outsideYou can't dodge a ranged projectile on someone else's behalf
>>96462834Healing of othersAbility to somehow readily distinguish good men from bad, be that soulsight, mindreading, etc.Flight, whether winged or unassistedCharisma, and/or attractivenessCombat ability that lends itself to disabling rather than killingIn general I hope it's not purely combat-oriented, it's good to flesh out that one has a certain capacity for attack or self-defense, but when it feels like you're just designing someone to fight in an arena it's a drag and almost inevitably becomes video-gamey.>>96462677Hell if I know, I don't entirely get the appeal. Maybe having the big opponents fleshed out so people want to take them down.
>>96462905>I have also been outsideYou can't dodge a ranged projectile on someone else's behalfDraw aggro and the enemies that are shooting at you won't be shooting at your friends, same concept with any other type of tank.
>>96462923>Distinguish good from badThis sort of dnd bullshit should never happenIt makes everything outside of combat meaningless
>>96462923>I hope it's not purely combat-oriented, it's good to flesh out that one has a certain capacity for attack or self-defense, but when it feels like you're just designing someone to fight in an arena it's a drag and almost inevitably becomes video-gameyThanks for the feedback, I'll make sure to add some non-combat abilities.
>>96462935Anon what the fuck are you saying
>>96462935NTA but then it's more of a mind control ability? So mind control + evasion? I think you can just keep them separate.
>>96462943>>96462951The ability to draw aggro has been a staple of RPGs since the 90s.https://torment.fandom.com/wiki/Litany_of_Curses
>>96462968Note how this ability does not increase his evasion rate. I'm not seeing a reason to combine mind control with evasion, is what I'm saying. The player can do that themselves.
>>96462974>Note how this ability does not increase his evasion rateIt decreases your enemy's hit rate.
>>96462968YES ANONWITHIN VIDEO GAMES EVASION TANKS ARE REAL
>>96462834I'd like to see attrition, either healing or damage-over-time. Best of luck on your work.
>>96462991That's different imo;"I affect the enemy's mind, so he becomes enraged at me (and due to his anger he will also be less composed and accurate)" is fine,but "I affect the enemy's mind, so he becomes enraged at me, and COMPLETELY SEPARATELY FROM ALL THAT I'm also always good at dodging in general" feels like a videogamey mold
>>96462834>SummoningEspecially if one option has preparing the specific individual summons beforehand, I really like that type of limitation.>Stacking status effectsEasily portrayed as curses or something similar. By this I mean weaker but longer-duration debuffs that are meant to be applied repeatedly to the same target. It plays hard into the limitations and strengths of debuffs in general.>Status effect removalPretty obvious.
>>96462993An evasion tank can1) Dodge enemy attacks2) Compel enemies to attack them instead of their friendsI don't see what upsets you about this archtype.
>>96463064You have autismI am telling you that the term evasion tank does not make sense outside of the context of a video-gamey systemI have no doubts that evasion tanks are things in video games. I have played video games with evasion tanks in them, and even used them myself
>>96463104A character who is hard to hit and can distract enemies does not make sense outside of the context of a video-gamey system?
>>96463198
>>96463194Yes
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information>Chronological Build ListA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407068Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96441041Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459290Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447556Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406404Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96399427Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248
>>96463310Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436Unbegotten Dreamer - Liadan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96432931/#96438090He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422
>>96463314The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816The White Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966
>>96463310What are we looking forward to?
>>96463310for fucks sake, its over.let it go.
>>96463482>checks last thread>1203 replies and counting
>>96463490now READ the thread,most of the thread was coomposting/rollshit/tierlists/etceven the regulars were admitting it was mostly over
>>96459503>Sand Wizard>Sexy Lich>Transport WizardSand Magic! Being able to just build enourmous structures out of sandstone and glass sounds cool. But it also just appeals to me on a fundamental level, and not just because of my cringe tween Naruto phase where I thought Gaara was the coolest shit ever.Though Gaara could do things like sand clones and sand eyes, and I see no reason why 'all the sand magic' shouldn't cover that sort of shit. Sand magic covers defense well, and sand magic is also glass magic which sounds fucking terrifying as an attack.Next lich is an obvious choice for immortality. At that point though im basically a mummy cosplayer. From there deciding between transport and demiplanes was the issue. Worldhopping is a big deal and hiding my phylactery in a pocket dimension sounds neat, but flying around in a giant pyramid like Stargate sounds fun too. I'm more a 'find a nice fantasy world and settle down as their benevolent god king type' so im sure i can find another wizard who is willing to give me a lift.I think I'd like to use sand magic to build a giant glass underwater wizard city and transport magic gates to let people in and out.
>>96463318Did this author just take russia and india and say "lmao fantasy world now"? Looks like he at least broke off the arabian peninsula in half for a little creative flair
Post Danmachi.
>>96463482>>96463519Are you trying to manifest some kind of different reality?No.It's alive. I care. I enjoy the conversations. We will bring this thread to another 1400 after you moved to the next one to talk about homosexualty for the 8th time
>>96463861>vaguely rectangular landmass>muh Indiayour jeet is showing
>>96463963Poluden is the fantasy India.
So this is what a non-OR thread looks like huh? All that crying and whining just for a dead thread.
>>96463974It's the ideal version of india, because it doesn't have any indians in it or any attachment to indian culture
>>96463974Sorry poojeet-kun but evil Daevas and good Asuras are a Zoroastrian intellectual property. You can't scam-claim this one.
>>96463871
>>96463310>Thaumaradrak (Zelo Zemlya)>Patron God[YRMD]>Boons [-15DP, -9AP]Adopted [-2DP]Halfbreed [-2DP, -2AP]Untimeskip x2 - Rhucuphre and Seo [-4DP]Dice FudgeExtra Companion x5 [-10DP, -5AP]Extra Mentor [-1DP, -2AP]Outer Tide>ParentsKrestovichka (Izhe)Taexx (Glagoli)Half Ascended Thaumiel (Greater Yus) [-5DP]>RaceDrakonid/Aranea>Languages [+25DP, +8AP]Everman/Spriggan [+5DP, +8AP]Tutored:Everman - Seo and Rhucuphre [-2DP]Quitened - All others [+22DP]>LocationCity State of Dis [+Mentor]Dis>Inborn Gifts>Maladies [+21AP]Bitter Sickness [+4AP]Wereplague x2 [+4AP]Meandering Thought [+3AP]Misalliance - Krestovichka [+10AP]>Innate[Agelessness][Metamorphosis][Dragon Transformation][Spiderhalf]>Normal Gifts [-48APCaster IntuitionSpiritual FeelEthereal BeautyBestial Strength [-47AP]Unburnt Hide [-2AP]Boiling Blood [-3AP]Bulletproof Skin [-4AP]Thoroughbreeding [-1AP]Eye for Shadows x2 [-2AP]God Hand x2 [-2AP]-Permanent Blessing of Enhanced Fertility and Crossbreeding PotentialDeathless Grasp x3 [-12AP]-Enhanced to also be able to create demonic undead. Upon touching or healing someone, I can store a demonic undead copy of them. They are completely loyal and can fuse with their original’s dead corpse to fuse into a greater undead with growth potential. Can store 5 copies and that number can grow.Dream Passage x2 [-2AP]Dead Sprint x2 [-6AP]Kneeling Twilight x2 [-2AP]Flowing Gait x 2 [-2AP]Autoantecedence [-5AP]>Mentors [-16DP]Upunth (Myslete) [-3DP]Herleva [-4DP]Seo (Shta Zhivete) [-4DP]Rhucuphre from Maeve (Ouk) [-5DP]>Companions [-10DP]Blazhko (Zelo Zemlya) [-1DP]-Leimeie (Iotated Az)-Xet (Lesser Yus)-Zlata (Iotated Greater Yus)-Dirk Yesod (Yer’) - Kashtanka, NezvanaEsu (Iotated Lesser Yus) [-4DP]Inga Yesod [-5DP]
>>96464199>Encounters [+6DP, +7AP]A Pack of Goblins [+1AP]Let the Purgation Begin - HerlevaBreaking and Entering - Rhucuphre (The Three Pillars)A Hop, A Lean, A Hobgoblin [+1DP, +1AP]No Way, Highwayman - UpunthA Score of Orcs [+1DP, +2AP]Remember About Death - SeoThings That Shouldn’t Be - BlazhkoA Band of Ogres [+2DP, +1AP]A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll [+2DP, +2AP]Musket to the Face - EsuImmortal Coils of Intrigue - Inga YesodRemember the Demon - Herleva>YouthMartial TrainingMagical TrainingPower TestingOther (Nightmare Insemination)>QuestE NomineA master of necromancy, nightmare, and obfuscation, Thaumaradrak is eager to experiment with the nightmare below. Will become a partial undead by giving my Drakonid side Undeath to help improve my connection with undeath and nightmare. The growing nightmare is an issue so I’ll help reduce it by coming up with a method to infuse nightmare into my eggs, which are hundreds at a time and cultivating unique monstrous broods with them. Due to thoroughbreeding they should be quite powerful. Using the perverse remnants of True Dragons corruption in such a way is a rather ironic way to deal with it that certainly will not cause any major disasters in the future. Rhucuphre chan is honestly just misunderstood so I’ll help her tap into the three pillars and transcend.I should be able to avoid any manner of detection afterwards with my own abilities hiding me well and my ascended Rhucuphre helping me from on high, leaving me free to do as I please. As long as other Tiders don’t bother me too much, I am content to experiment and slowly work towards my ultimate goal of rebirthing JNPL through a mass infusion of the entire Old Throne nightmare into a huge egg assimilated from several clutches and fused as one, I will probably need to sneak in and steal blood off her defaced Pillar to do so.If anyone wants to lend their Thoroughbreeding genes to the cause that would be great.
>>96464199Also fucked up my death letter, It should be Buki.Zelo Zemlya is on Blazhko.
>>96463963you're the one playing a jeetcore cyoa, so take a seat
>>96464219>jeetcore sounds kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ydUdqWE1g
>>96464002y tho
>>96464199Oh hey it's ???'s adoptive testtube sister
who would have thought OR was secretly made by some curry-smelling poojeeta
Do people actually curry? I’ve only ever had bad curry.
>>96464205>If anyone wants to lend their Thoroughbreeding genes to the cause that would be great.Can't due to two mentor overlaps and one companion overlap. Shame, because this is a cool build and I'd tide with it
>>96464199>Adopted Thaumiel>DisThe allure of points is too strong for most
>>96464295
>>96464199>Another Dice Fudge the lesbos and quiet 99999 languages build
>>96464199Every version of the tide should have their own super eugenics spider. It's essential to taking down Charlotte, I promise.
>>96464317Why spiders
>>96464320Because he finds it hot.
>>96464320Why not spiders?
>>96464321Based, also mad respect for sending that with adjacent post numbers how even
>>96464305"No Meaning?" would've been better desu.
>giving Rhucuphre OukI seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>>96463310Has anyone noticed how the Muddish resemble [JNPL] but venetate [SRTR], while the Tumen are the reverse?
>>96464329Just for (You).
>>96464342based and memepilled
>>96464259Have Chinese curryIf possible avoid the weak link
>>96464335Hey that's one way to force [YMRD] to use Izhitsa and start over.
>>96464335Not even necessary, Mithra had Dobro
>>96464295>>96464314>they can't into minmax
>>96463310Which builds are underrated?
>>96464384Mine
>>96464384A-All 45 of mine...
>>96464365Meaningless behavior
>>96464384Not enough pro-Ecumene builds everyone is following the generic Elder god script
>>96464199>>96464205Bugtranny build BTW
>>96464419>not enough pro-evil paranoid whore who will kill you buildThere are too many of them (more than zero)
>>96464419Disagree. I feel like everyone is doing some self-appointed task OTHER than slaying the Usurper. "We're enough, someone else will deal with 0^0" doesn't work if everyone is following the same logic.
Rolled 4, 49, 108, 111, 109 = 381 (5d111)>>96459661okay
>>96464432>who will kill youAnd this is bad because?Death is good. Everybody who dies ascends anyway so there is no point in continuing living in your present life. The optimal playthrough is to kill yourself immediately. When you next wake up with your memories, one gorillion reincarnations will have passed and you'll be a god.
>>96464419>siding with the EcumeneAre you retarded?
>>96464453It would be so much fun to sit down with 5 people and figure out how to spread tasks and actually get her down. Imageboards are the condom of human interaction
>>96463314I've finished the final version of the build in the last thread: >>96463819
>>96464459>The optimal playthrough is to kill yourself immediately. When you next wake up with your memories, one gorillion reincarnations will have passed and you'll be a god.
>>96464459This is so hilariously wrong yet so entirely self-correcting I will allow it
>>96464432The Ecumene offers great employee benefitsEmpyrean immortality your patron doesn't want to actively kill your so you would reincarnateThe Ecumene has electricityThe Ecumene being outside of the range of the Outsider system makes you immune to being selected by the 12th outsiders and true loved and/or murdered
>>96464490Who let the Ecumene pajeets on the chan?
>>96464490>trading spiritual growth for electricityHopeless but entirely expected
>>96464459>pro-0^0>still believes in the Elder God's reincarnation-ascension planspeedreader or just plain retard, I can't telm anymore.
>>96464499I'm half-expecting his build to have exploits too.
>>96464494saaaar doooo not redeeem gnosis saaaaaaar
>>96464485Charlotte would never say that, the anon just confused her with the elder gods.
>>96464510Nothing wrong with using exploits, it will get them fixed in version 3. Who /fullunnotableadoptionrefund/ here
>>96464516>tell anon to yat himself>destroy the system >anon will never ascend nor wake up again
>>96464499You'd wish for it after taking a dump in medieval times.
>>96464510Of course it has exploits, can't have 0^0 as a companion without using exploits, but the Keter adoption shit is too cheezy even for me, Blazhko+Leimeie is enough for me
>>96464548Same difference for the indians who champion the ecumene, but going to better places to shit them up is in the patternAlso no, maybe if you got /out/ more this particular matter wouldn't be so tormentuous and close to your heart lardass/boomertron.
>>96464558>Keter adoption shit is too cheezy even for meNothing is too cheezy with godhood on the line.
>>96464454>Housewife, Exhibitionist, Ghost, Generous, Surferwew
>>96464548>no spontaneous spring-bidet and instant cleanings spells.Hmph so uncivilised.There's something called "magic" maybe you've heard of it?
>>96464499Who cares about speeding a long the collective ascension, gonna chill in my high fantasy skyscraper for a few millenia in my current life, don't really care much about the future reincarnations, the ascension is gonna happen anyways no matter what you do eventually, the gods are gonna pull some deus ex machina shit when they get bored of the Ecumene plot thread anyways might as well enjoy it while it lasts.
>>96464579Look up "brazilian_sadako" on danbooru and thank me later.
>>96462834Warrior Stat BoostMage Stat BoostRogue Stat BoostAll Rounder Stat Boost (stacks with the above)
>>96464606>Who caresAnd that's the crux of why people don't choose the Ecumene.
>>96464571false ascent, can respect the hustle, but don't think your gonna be able to hold down a pillar for long a few centuries at best.
Reading the bonus material finally and wow, going by the Kristi description 0^0's grasp on the Ecumene is incredibly weak. Moreso with her elites being infiltrated easily enough by Natalja.How come Charlotte looks so radically different from the emaciated albino Kristi though?Sidenote, the merge of themes between the non-hebrew abrahamic religions here is immaculate.
>>96464629
>>96464629Inferior cyoa
>>96464606You will never improve your lot if every life you just retain this attitude and the equilibrium of sloth, but maybe the difference is set a priori with the builder and there never was any hope for you to begin with. As above, so below.
>>96464629finally some kino
>>96464625>4th pillar of actually enjoying the story and thanking the authors for their efforts before diving back in
>>96464620yeah your actions don't really matter in the end, all this stuff is orchestrated by the elder gods, like they are purposefully taking the role of jobbers by nerfing themselves for the plot, even if I am pro-Ecumene I don't think its going to last forever or permanently remove the elder gods, but might as well enjoy the ride
>>96464459>"Death is le good actually, chud">ok *kills elder god*>"NOOOO, NOT LIKE THAT!"Do Elder Gods really?
>>96464646>coomer fantasy slop>kinoIt’s no better or worse than Danmachi or Konosuba
>>96464632>How come Charlotte looks so radically different from the emaciated albino Kristi though?Superior Mithra genes + Unnotable One admixture + Ethereal Beauty
>>96464662Just ascend. Or kill them for real. Or redeem Charlie. Or find your own niche. Or make a story that builds off your Earth life. Or I don't know, anything else that isn't giving up on the spot.I can't understand the Meaning of a second life where you just lounge around your pool for decades. There is nothing gained from this life.
>>96464548The only problem with an outhouse assuming toilet paper is that they attract wasps.
Reminder that if your build has any exploit you'll at best have a false ascension after a meaningless life and then later be jobbed by the next outsider.
>>96464723You don't have to be salty people won the number game.
>>96464732You cheated not only the game, but yourself.You didn't grow.You didn't improve.You took a shortcut and gained nothing.You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.It's sad you don't know the difference.
>>96464732>number gameNice try, Charlie. Your magic system is also inferior.
>>96464723Reminder that if your build has any lips I will kiss them, any hands I will hold them, any heart I will take it and cherish it next to my own till the end of timeI am inevitable and your journey ends here, all of youHappy ending, no refunds
Only three of the Outsiders were sane. Why do the gods like crazy people so much?
>>96464732>number gameYou realize it's feeding her faulty narrative, right?
>>96464723Don't try to reason with the sovlless minmaxers, just find Meaning in your own adventure and leave them to their hollow existence.
>>96464745>Only three of the Outsiders were saneAat, Tuzik, and Sarmat?
>>96464745>Only three of the Outsiders were sane>Charlotte, Erginter, KatyaWhat did he mean by this?
>>96464760I wouldn't call Aat "sane". Yphont and One are much more deserving of that title.
>>96464199>>96464205I like you, psycho dragon-spider eldritch evil scientist monstrosity.When 12th will read your profile, be horrified and inevitably try to kill you, I will stand by your side.
>>96464700sure in the actual verse your gonna try to pull all of that stuff, to try to extend your clock by a few more centuries or millennia by continuing the plot. I am just saying that if the Elder gods pulled out the big guns your just screwed, I read the what Tankista said about the shit mithra could pull if they returned sounds like pure unrestrained deus ex machina and as the elder gods should in theory be able to pull the same stunts its quite clear they are nerfing themselves. Like the mere fact that the elder gods can remember the old throne timelines while Charlie can't shows that they are on a whole another power level.
>>96464723>be an Elder God>leave easy ways for the new Outsider to gain more points and beat Charlie easier>he mumbles something about "Muh, Meaning!" and takes a legacy option of living on a farm>facepalm, scare Charlie>continue rotting on your Pillar and waiting for someone less retarded
Savmak saved the world without any mentors and companions. His questionable decisions about cheating fate aside, it should be perfectly possible to repeat his success.
>>9646477512 still fucks itThey wouldn't be dissuaded by such poultry matters
>>96464767One acted like a retard until the second came, and he couldn't raise her to the point of not being an all out war.Yphont just had good RNG.Aat had shit luck and wanted to simply fix the shit the others left behind. He merely thought swapping bodies was a good way to escape death and an acceptable price to pay.
>>96464777>POINTS POINTS POINTS>MEANING DOESN'T MATTER, BRAHOne more lamb to the slaughter
>>96464777>JNPL hates farmers!I can't wrap my head around it. Out of character.
>>96464740of course it still makes you grow, being a cheating minmaxers is also a part of the road to ascension, you got to experience every role even that of a minmaxer, every story no matter how small will still bring progress
What was he thinking?
>>96464815>With enough tools I can escape any situation!
>>96464815>Eyemaxxing sigmas will never lose
>>96464793Meaning matters little without a god to enforce it and as JNPL is dead, the power of meaning is weak, its all fate manipulation, minmaxing and causal fuckery now
>>96464815Multiocular O is fun, don’t hate on it.
>>96464827His known eyes are shit though. Look of Chaos x1, really? Was he that starved for points?
>>96464815>Meandering Thought + ClearmindedWhat do you think, anons? Did he do something stupid or find a free point combo?
>>96464815How do the eye powers manifest on sword
>>96464834>Meaning matters littleSo Blazing Mark is almost useless and that thing about there being so many Empyreans now that they lost some meaning is false, right?
>>96464838considering he took so many eyes, he probably was
>>96464785Stop with the "muh shit luck" meme, Aat was gambling addict and risk taker. He knew full well what he was getting himself into.
>>96464840Is Clearminded even in our version of the System?
>>96464853And yet he did all that shit, and got two hot divine chicks to favor him.
>>96464853And Erginter is a saint for finally stopping this menace
>>96464776>I read the what Tankista said about the shit mithra could pull if they returned sounds like pure unrestrained deus ex machina qrd?
>>96464840Take Savmak and ask him directly.
>>96464853>When you Fiert the Outsider System tells the Outsiders all about the evil guy who had the body before and tells them nothing about you whatsoever How was he supposed to see that coming?
Sarmat had some sweet martial gifts. True Stance and Eternal Slaying sound cool, shame he didn't do much with them.
>>96464882He stood true to his ideals, and slayed the eternity that was offered him.
>>96464869SRTR was very proud of herself that day.
>>96464869>takes over the body of the evil devil satan analogue.>gets surprised he got his reputation along with it too. Even a retard could see that coming.
>>96464863>this was their answer to the question of backwards time travel someone asked and a follow up question:"As per Feodwra’s description, time travel backwards is treated as an impossibility. It would take something on the same scale as a direct divine intervention by an Elder God to do something like this.">Direct divine intervention such as from, hypothetically speaking, having [YMRD] as a companion?No, more like Mithra suddenly returns when the 12th or 13th Outsider is making choices, hijacks the Outsider System and writes a whole new fanfic story.
>>96464882He personally killed the big name demon lord of his time. He used it enough.
>>96464887>Hero Xian uses Yat to kill the murderer of his friend and prevents her from attempting her own False AscensionProbably got his Elder God status for it too
>>96464898It is quite obvious from the context that three Elder Gods can't do any of this right now due to Charlie contesting them. It is explicitly said, as soon as she is out of the picture YMRD can simply reboot the reality, meaning she can't do it now due to her.Mithra wasn't bodyslammed by Charlie, so he retains the capacity to do whatever, unless someone contradicts him.
How obvious should the existence of gods be in a cyoa setting? Do you like them being explicit or possible existences? Or simply unknowable?Assuming gods are unseen, how would you prove they exist?
>>96464898>Mithra rapes Charlie confirmed.Do you see that falseascensionfags?
>>96464882He killed a bunch of scum, made world a better place, and found Meaning. He won the game.
>>96464842mostly just applies to inborn gifts and god script magics, you cant' really use the power of narrative to make yourself win like Keters power of friendship failed without STRT to enforce it. The Empyreans didn't lose their meaning, 0^0 just had to stop mass producing them to fix the Keter exploit, so now she only hand picks the more powerful ones.
>>96464915>Vicious slander of Hero Erginter, vanquisher of the First Demon Lord.
>>96464882He killed Demon Lord Tun, the father of demonic necromancy. There is something fishy about his Letter.
>>96464898>suddenly returns when the 12th or 13th Outsider is making choices, hijacks the Outsider System and writes a whole new fanfic storyHe's literally me.
>>96464922Not at all. I'd like to see more fantasy settings with no gods or religion at all, the idea of gods hasn't even occurred to the natives. Because it's too expected, and once they're there they dominate the setting and the resulting settings are homogenized as a result.
>>96464922Easy. They kill someone the moment they start criticizing their chosen people.
>>96464930>you cant' really use the power of narrative to make yourself win like Keters power of friendship failed without STRT to enforce itYou can, Ketretard just forgot to take Icon of Icons.
>>96464915>Erginter was happy just being a final boss for future Outsiders until Xian possessed her and they suddenly decided to rebel against the godsI imagine he was pretty resentful after 500 years of fuck ups.
>>96464933The average mudder will actually think like that.It's your responsibility to educate them properly, anons.
>>96464951>Icon of Iconsngl the thread treating it like a win button devalued his utility to me.
>>96464949Bahhahahahahaa
>>96464967It's not, no Inborn gift is, it's just very helpful. Sucks it's incompatible with Daemonhost tho.
>>96464949Muslim bros… I’m not feeling so good…
>>96464967Icon of Icons as written is insanely strong, and you have to assume that the text isn’t being literal and is greatly exaggerating its effect to think otherwise.
>>96464967>I'm a contrarian who hates on anything that gets remotely popularthat's your problem not ours
>>96464978>Sucks it's incompatible with Daemonhost tho.NTA but it's the kind of exploit a friend of Tank would immediately use on the pre-release version, leading to Tank patching it.
>>96464946>the idea of gods hasn't even occurred to the natives.primitive human/human-adjacent peoples are going to believe in spirits/gods no matter what, it's an integral part of their developmentonly logical autist races wouldn't do it
>>96464949Turks try their best to ignore that this happened.
>>96464999>only logical autist races wouldn't do itMy people.
>>96463310NEW STATS!
>>96465009What compels you to do these lists?
>>96465009>16/25 did not explain what their choice doesThey will never be [THE STRONGEST]Thank you for the paperwork, paperman
>>96464922Depends on how you do it.
Imagine being an emperor of Light and Dark, using Tenyota on Icon of Icons then implementing its usage as an essential for every trained soldier.An army literally fueled by camaraderie and patriotism murdering false angels all the way to Poluden.
>>96464917Or maybe that is what they want you to think, they nerfed themselves for the plot, the story wouldn't be compelling at all if they just erased the big bad, why waste the perfectly fine usurper plotline. They aren't desperate at all to win considering they won't even let you to cheat and gain more outsider system bonuses than you should, even while it is in their power while they are your companions.
>>96464992Just Inga Yesod some Demon Lord and pose as them to acquire your cheer group.
>>96464930Keter story shows that the failure was less because [SRTR] being sealed and more for her own party failures. There was a traitor among her group, her girlfriend left her after she was killed twice, Qu'un sacrificed herself for her sister and Ciliren rather than the team and her other party member was a traitor to his own kingdom before that fight. Not to mention that thanks to what her party did, using the power of friendship as an excuse was laughable. [SRTR] wasn't even her patron, Charlie was.And even through all of that, she came rather close to winning. As long as you don't fuck up the set up, you should be able to win using narrative tools.
>>96464978My interpretation would be that that innate loyalty doesn't really count that much, basically the same Charlie has, millions of followers, but not a single true friend.
I HATE ICON OF ICONS! ITS SO UNFAIR AND BORING!>said the Dobrava cheeser>said the Keter exploiter>said the Blazkho disciple>said the All-Glimpser>said the Maoisara/Ilfek pointmilker
>>96463310>>96463314How do you guys think the various outer tide worlds will turn out? Personally I think:>AzLots of eugenics programs (4/8 are eugenicists). 3/8 are NEETS. Poor Shirou is the only one journeying to defeat 0^0. My money's on one of the eugenics program going horribly wrong (probably Jötunnsdrottninggen's due to the reckless cambrian explosion from orbit method) and rendering most of the planet uninhabitable. Others' eugenics programs would go out of control as well they if get caught off guard by the Uruk cambrian explosion. Survivors would live in fortified enclaves, the biggest one would be Moonman's moon empire due to it being on the moon away from the wasteland of a planet. 0^0 lives, because defeating her stopped having meaning in the wake of an apocalypse. She builds up her own lunar empire, postponing the conflict to the next outsider's era.12th outsider is born an Aranea on the moon and will decide whether 0^0 restarts the war or 0^0 finds peace and the setting moves on to space exploration.>BukiSecond War of Heaven and Earth - False Ascent Y'Sereth vs Vtorusha vs 0^0. Flagellant and Y'Sereth are Elder God aligned, working together so Y'Sereth can false ascent SRTR's pillar, but Krinak wants to wake Vtorusha up and Ithyl in search of Libertas helps Krinak.Regardless of who wins, 12th outsider is born as a child in Mer's orphanage to rebuild the the world and possibly start a Third War.>VediQarg's conquest of the Doria and the Inquisitor going after Malkuth and Undead doom Doria's anti-ecumene efforts. Queen of Mamet, Orkhalorkhan, and HeWillWin salvage this world from Mamet. Queen of Mamet's kingdom building goes extremely well as 0^0 focuses on conquering the Doria to capitalize on its chaos. HeWillWin pumps out whatever Majin they need. Orkhalorkhan weaves the narrative into place. 12th Outsider will be born in a world dominated by Mamet and will rise up to shatter Mamet to prevent the story from stagnating under one empire.
>>96465077>Sees that I am none of those things, despite optimising really hard.I am not sure if I should be ashamed or proud of myself.
>>96465009For Unnotable Lich, per anon's feed back ( >>96425036 ):>(Autoantecedenced Esurient Walk)>My lvl3 EW is like lvl2 EW, but 1 continuous run per day can be arbitrarily long. It must involve no action besides the running itself.
>>96465062well you probably can pull any thing you want as a player, your pretty much elder god tier, you write the narrative at least in singleplayer in muliplayer you will be nerfed by collaborative writing.
>>96465077I don't feel smart for using it. There is no discovery to lord over the readlets.
>>96465113>Elder Gods pulled in another Elder God to humble CharlieCharlotte will cry. Hope you are happy for yourself.
>>96463310>>96465107
>>96465028Kind of hard to explain when almost no information on what is possible is given in the cyoa, not even an example, only that the variation within an autoantecended gift is slight.
>>96465071Meant for >>96464992
>>96465077Only Dobrava/Gunter and Keter/Thaumiel exploiters are meaningless hacks.All the others are just options.
>>96459661>26 103 50 110 94>NERDY EVIL YANDERE LONELY MISANDRISTI got a fujo...?
>>96465177Nobody is taking Thaumimom. It's actually a problem, she wants an heir so bad. Think of the monsterchildren who will grow up without a sister
>>96465088>AzI think a combination of outsiders and YMRD could stop Charlotte from making any real progress on the moonArea based magic effects are a big thing and so blocking teleportation should be doableOther then that, fairly accurate>BukiI think flagellant pulls throughHe has aura, certainly more then Charlotte>VediIt still feels to me that one good queen will not change things enough, especially if she keeps the blood ritualsI think once she dies a violent and ruthless man takes hold, legalizes everything and manages to make a credible anti-ecumene threat with his army of blood hate and superhumans12 Is born to a choice, to seek the lesser of two evils, try to reform one, or to strike out on her own (With leaders in both mamet and ecumene occupied doria available to her)
>>96465088Good post!
>>96465150You make something up and the narrative handles it for youPicking something too strong makes you "villain of the week" fodder, and picking something too weak makes you a side character, or one of those shitty "Weakest was actually the strongest" protags
>>96465009For Vëe, I'm hesitating between a few interpretations.>It abolishes the “four-person in a Dungeon” rule for the Library.>It makes Vëe the owner of the dream parcel on which the Library stands.>It grants her fine-grained control over the Library’s contents (books coming when summoned, shelves gliding aside).>It allows the Library to connect to other Dungeons and Dreams.Writing it out, I'm leaning for option B since the rest sounds more like an organic evolution of the concept, but I don't know how to phrase it elegantly.
>>96465188Most people don't wanna genderswap and she's female only. Just fix Keter and ser her to T so they can make babies.
>>96465211This is stated nowhere. You made it up.
>>96465218The author has given advice on how to make them up
>>96465221Well, I'll get back to you about my ability when that advice is included in the next update.
>>96465088Nice post, doesn't assume 0^0 just kills everyone easily and wins.
>>96465232:(
>>96465241Hey don't be sad, I promise I'll do it!
>>96465150The least ambiguous guideline is the cost.You have to imagine it'll be worth the 5p + <1 extra level's worth>p cost
>>96463310The worst thing you can be in fiction is boring, so I made a tier list of how interesting the OR characters are. You're free to disagree, but know that if you do, you're wrong.
>>96465248I'll be waiting for youI'm making a note
>>96465257You are being unfair to Jdan.
>>96465257Savmak and Sarmat deserve better
>>96465257Yet another shitty l->Yphont: Perfect, No NotesYou're a prince among men.
>>96465150I remember someone saying they should be roughly equivalent to the gimmicks of greater warmachina, their race description gives examples of some.
>>96465257Bump Aat up right ficking now, chump
>>96465280Jdan went from being a decently interesting villain to a boring game mechanic in the update. He'd have been higher in the earlier version, but his mentor entry is so game-y and awkward that he loses all of the villain points.
>>96465290of course he loses the villain points he's not one
>>96465257Why Gunter so high while Blazkho so low?Having a rival friend to show up makes some interesting stories, but so does teaching a naive good boy and showing him to world.
>>96465290tbf having a vindictive guy who knows you cuck him in at least one timeline as a mentor would've been a tough sell.
>>96465257>Tuzik>above Savmak x2 and Sarmat
>>96465257you forgot to rank the 11th and 12th outsider
>>96465257I don’t see what’s “perfect” about a generic kuudere
>>9646534112th is a meme, you can't rank "her".11th is 4chan, you can't rank (((them))).
>>96465280NTR victim Jdan was better than father Jdan
>>96465281>>96465331Of all of the earth cities they could've emulated, they chose New York. Outsiders are inherently interesting, but if they weren't outsiders they'd be boring tier.Tuzik saying "fuck all this, I'm gonna have sex with my wife" is much more fun. Good for him, glad he had a good time.>>96465288He's an excellent interpretation of an archetype that isn't my favorite. Since I am the arbiter of interestingness, he can't be perfect, but I am willing to grant that he might be perfect for you if your have incorrect tastes.>>96465298Gunter's masochist spirituality gives his character potential to go in interesting directions. He'd make a great villain. Blazkho is just a generic starry-eyed dreamer anime kid, and he is explicitly always going to be that at his core. He's too static and cliche.
>>96465354So much this. Her being his daughter doesn't even ties up to anything in an interesting way, unlike a relationship that was/wasn't.
>>96465257>Lowest tier is declawed with a "kinda"You aren't even making it on my list
>>96465373Nobody wants to be on your doomed world anyway.
We decried slut removal anon... he went too far, we said, he was annoying, he was delusional... but now we get posts like >>96465354
>>96465373Need a lower 'Vanilla' tier specifically for Aquilan and others like him.
>>96465384I'm okay with this.
>>96465384But ntr is a very good story. It's really emotional. One or two designated ntr waifus is good for any cyoa.
>>96465257Feowdra doesn't really add much other than funny past person, meanwhile you dropped all the political plotlines and the abandoned child of two outsiders on the boring tier.
>>96465396JNPL would eat that shit up.
>>96465396You count death.
>>96465343There is no dere. It's just kuu, and it creates interesting problems for her and everyone around her. She's an anti-0^0 ally that you wish you could replace for reasons both political and practical, while still being a well-rounded character that a player might sympathize with (unlike the sisters).
>>96465384Perhaps>>96465396You poor thing
>>96465257>Multiple waifubait characters in perfect tierYou bore me.
>>96465396Stop posting, Charlie.
>>96465410Charlie's a vanillafag tho?
>>96465404>replying seriously to a running joke
>>96465415Then it's thematic to hold the NTR banner in opposition.
>>96465396don't worry Anon you will get NTRed by the 12th outsiders, you waifus will be made into NTR waifus and you can be happy being cucked
>>96465429>your enemy enjoys living>it's thematic to go for miserable undeath in opposition
>>96465433Anon........He's gay
>>96465442>undeath vs empyreality yes
>>96465257Does Paxxia even have Evil Eye like her dad? Does she just make all her subjects put up with it and take the blood loss when she’s around
Uhhhh
>>96465009For Crooked Caress, my vision was to use it in conjunction with Damned Letter Yest' to pull an Erginter, but only collecting all the threads and lines of Majinkind to reintegrate and throw into the other direction after concluding their first chapter.So basically just the empowered Yest' Erginter use with a hint of Letter collecting like the Daemonhunt do. Stealing+
>>96465357>He'd make a great villainSlander, my homie would never betray me.
>>96465398>Political plotlines in boring tierAnon I have Zwa, Kalliope, Unnr, Taex, Paxxia, and Senamotis all up in GreatI dropped /boring/ politicians in boring tier. Because they're boring.
>>96465443The elder gods do not discriminate, if he wants NTR, they will even NTR his husbandos
>>96465451She's reasonable, if selfish. X to doubt.
>>96465042Don't think they would believe in each other when they are so busy believing in itself. Icons arise from a desire. Giving Daemonhost to every Majin using Tenyota will make Uruks look like a joke though
>>96465443Then they turn him straight or yaoi ntr it is
>>96465443That's easy enough to fix with an application of True Love
>>96465469They'd probably be restricted to random temporary templates
>>96465009For Nightmare Maker the idea of dream passage 3 would be to be able to start changing the rules of the dungeons once inside, allowing them to break the number of people limit and make them grow or shrink as required, perhaps eventually creating a dungeon like the Archaia capital by stitching several dungeons together.
>>96465341Until someone make an image build for her she's a non-entity.
>>96465500>>96465213That's the part where you kiss.
>>96465396>>96465433You lack dramatic vision.12th True Loves 11th because 12th is your typical entitled Otome Heroine when one portrayed as an antagonist of the story. She does so because 11th at want point would be the biggest trophy "the heroine" can get. Her build will be minmaxed to make it work with all social skills. However, at that point in time, 11th would be married to Omega and 12th insertion of herself will see Omega branded criminal and exiled. This making Omega involuntary walk the path her mother went before her but as Villainess Isekai Protagonist.
>>96465396If you want to be NTR'd just true love Nilmatrix
>>96465496It would most definitely depend on how much you augment the teachable tradition, there are several synergies just for teaching and Majin seem very very developed in that regard already so you'd have to make the perfect tradition first
>>96465520My wife Omega would NEVER follow the footsteps of the whore she calls mother
>>96465469It explicitly already exists, so would be a waste of a Daemonhost.
>>96465608Isn't it exclusive to the Demon Lords?
>>96465608Just make some decendants and ask the ones who want to live peaceful lives to give the gifts they don't need. Then combine their contributions to make a strengthened skill version.
>>96465574She will be doing it to save you from the clutches of 12th Bitch.Her love for you is so strong that she will be willing to resort to bringing back forbidden mathemagic and related Causality, or even go all the way to True Drakonic Solipsism and attempt False Ascension just to get you back even is she knows she will hate herself for doing so. Or even is she knows you might hate her for going that far. But even if you ended up hating her, you will do so not because of the vile powers of 12th Bitch but because of your own. That for her will be enough after she destroys the web of lies and mind control made by 12th Bitch. For you to be of your own mind will be enough of a reward for her.
>>9646564312th is my wife and I won't tolerate this slander.
>>96465653
>>96465653>>9646564312th is me and that guy's wife and we won't tolerate this slander
>>9646564312th is my daughter and I won't tolerate this slander.
>>9646564312th is my pupil and I won't tolerate this slander.
>>96465677*SonShe wanted to be a boy to live out her fujo fantasies.
>>96465653>>96465673Tell your wife to stop cucking mine, thank you.
>>96462452Oh hey time for the bug tide.DeceiverManipulatorFae-Insectoid HybridsNestsBroodAdaptabilityCorruptorLustful MinionsMonstrous MegageriePeons, Fodder, SwarmerBurrower, Watcher, PursuerStalker and SpySapper, Artisan, Standard-BearerCenturionCultist and ConcubineSlayerUnholy ClericMesmerSpawnerStrategosThe City of GlorriendAll the missions
>>96465616No, it is described in what Maou can teach you, even if you are not a Demon Lord.
>>96464259Thai curry is good.
>>96465643True Love doesn't make you become that person love slave though, it just makes the feeling of attraction/affection appear. And does not erase all other bonds.
>>96464485Stop doing my meme wrong
>>96465724In that case it's been done before, good catch.What are some other inborn gifts already turned into mentor knowledge?Are there any other patterns mentors follow?
>>96465643She really IS the perfect wife bros...
>>96465257>Thaumiel >Perfecttrash list
>>96465829You just hate kuuderes.
>>96465837I would say this anon is Keter, but she wouldn't rate herself so highly
>>96465837Thaumiel isn't even one.
>>96465837>muh kuuderesIf you keep labeling characters with dumb weeb archetypes you'll end up like keter.
>>96465855Exarchate-approved term btw
>>96465855A powerful half-empyrean that survived her death letter and is still relevant to the system? Sign me up senpai.
>>96465861>Exarchate-approved term btwand that's why they're the shittiest human faction
>>96462677>Add history/lore>Cute characters connected to that lore and history >Multi-player aspects that pushes players to work together >Multiple objectives that are optional to choose>Potential to create a comfortable life if you don't want to join in the war
>>96465855Cute immortal dragonslayer, savior of men?
>>96465866Stop enabling the freeloaders.
>>96465866Italics does all that yet look at him.
>>96462677Impossible, though I do hope he didn't drop the cyoa
>>96465883Interesting lore*
>>96465711>Oh hey time for the bug tideWeren't you making (Or did you actually make?) an image build of this?
>>96465878It's what gives a cyoa staying power.>>96465883And Magi Case lasted for a good while as well.
>>96465855The Keter? The one who defied Antikrator at the peak of her power and survived?
>>96462677Don't do it. CYOA should die after a week max.
>>96465887His strong suit is the kind of evocative character dynamics OR doesn't include to keep you guessing. I like OR, but trying to marry that style to his is doomed. I am very happy every time he drops one and spent a comparable amount of hours
>>96465866>Potential to create a comfortable life if you don't want to join in the warThat's absolutely a trap option. The only argument for why you can hope for this in OR (singleplayer) is that you're the one writing the story. Now that's an infinitely strong argument, in some sense, but also besides the point - everything's clearly set up for Charlie invading Doria sometime within the next few decades, and probably wrapping it up in way less than the 100 years it takes for 12th outsider to arrive. Humilitas is a lie
>>96465899plebbit mindset, go back
>>96465899Yes! Then we can spend months of off-topic discussions in dying threads. Our lord and savior Tok can also come back to us!
>>96465908Humilitas is a choice. With consequences less than ideal, but a choice you're free to pick, just like Nilmatrix.
>>96465883Italics worlds lack the kind of gravity and depth OR has. To fix this, he needs to wikicrawl old religions like tankista instead of rehashing seasonal anime that is already a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy
>>96465913Now that you point it out, he really is gone. Didn't notice but in retrospect the relative quality of the threads should have been a hint.
>>96465917But in such a general sense, you can apply that to almost any CYOA. In Peil's Space Hell, you can try to settle down and live a comfortable life for 30 seconds before someone blasts your brains out and takes your stuff - but since you're not mindcontrolled into not doing that, it can be said "you had a choice". But that's not what the sentence would normally be understood to mean.
>>96465899>Don't make a lasting and engaging experience, every cyoa must be a fire and forget affair whose build you do halfheartedly in order to return to the usual thread shitpostingThis mentality is how we end up with eternal waifu pickers.
>>96465908I think you forget that there is a life to live after Charlie is taken care of. But even then, you said it best>is that you're the one writing the story.You're always the one writing the story.
>>96462677>add characters with big backstories and unique powers>various different factions with interactions between each other>make it so it has 50+ pages>add many, many waifusThe most successful ones that I remember all had that to some extent, Entropist, Magi Case, Spirit Conscript.OR is more special because it has meta stuff and not in a shitty way, the Goddess names are even a play on Sartre and It took me a while to realize that.
>>96465930Maybe we should keep making tok threads after the current one goes to bait him away?
>>96465257this is your brain on waifu weeabo rot
>>96465950I'll go back to just enjoying a reality not marred by
>>96465930If you ignore him, he'll go away. He's ironically got his own thread to play in when he keeps telling ORfags to get their own thread. Lmao.
>>96465451>Does she just make all her subjects put up with it and take the blood loss when she’s aroundThat sounds badass actually, it also cements Paxxia as the alpha bitch that rules a society based on might makes right. She dominates others simply with her presence. But it does the question about how you can make a baby with her without suffering from brain hemorrhage mid-coitus.
>>96465980>But it does the question about how you can make a baby with her without suffering from brain hemorrhage mid-coitusTrust in my sex abilities. I've been studying on /trash/ and /d/ my whole life for this.
>>96465992>the /for/bidden books
>>96465942I think one of the cyoas strong suits is its brevity, more isn't always better.
What are some mundane events/scenarios you could see or would like to see happening in OR's universe?
>>96465908Is there not Meaning in breaking the cycle of outsider violence? Is there not Meaning in the notion that the problems caused by otherworlders gifted far too much power ought be solved by people native to the world they're defending?
>>96466016>People in the Exarchate having absurd arguments over interpretations of throwaway comments made by various Outsiders
>>96465257>Araith Somewhat InterestingDid you not read the entry?
>>96466029Well Humilitas is not breaking the cycle of outside violence as much as delaying it for the near future. Outsiders will duke it out with or without you, at least with your participation you can help the best side (whichever one you think that is) win.
>>96465908At and Yuph were running around handling shit while Yuzik lived comfortably and died peacefully.
>>96465908The 12th outsider will arrive as it is Fate. The world may be very different then but not even Charlie can stop it from happening. Even if there's a tiny resistance island somewhere, there will be choices for them. Humillitas is simply dropping the problem in someone else's lap.
>>96466043Amusing, but needing something for players to run into
>>96466057Luke's refusal to kill his father was not breaking the cycle of Sith violence so much as delaying it for the future. Master and apprentice would duke it out with or without him, at least with his participation he could help the best side win.
>>96466071Famalamleykum, Brother
>>96466016>pic related but a majin kid>harvest festival for the farmers>ghost ship attacking the seafarers>Drakonids' version of parkour, complete with teams and fans>wandering circus (may or may not be magical)>Witch covens in the woods>treasure map
>>96466016>Thaumiel trying to figure out what a “kuudere” is
>>96466016Former JNPL followers are trying to adjust to new reality, part of this is haggling at market over the price of beets and turnips, and due to JNPL brainrot they don't know any math
>>96465912Enjoying OR is reddit. Hating on OR is also reddit. Doing something else while the thread discusses a CYOA that isn't to your taste? Believe it or not, also reddit.
What happened to Iodas Scythotaur and how can he "[BE] the one who will end up as king of All Humans"?
>>96466016muggle knight larpers stuck in the medieval era inefficiently killing lesser uruks with swords
>>96466016I would prefer if Youth and Encounters pages were merged together since now they serve almost the same purpose to represent early life. Having limited slots for time periods with specific events/encounters being available in specific ages would add real weight to it. As it would make choosing activities, when to meet specific characters and minmaxing with goblin knife fights versus choosing to have normal childhood, run into Mentor earlier feel meaningful.
>>96466108>don quixoteTHE GOAT
>>96466016Something I see rarely considered is how important the choice of race is for [JNPL] mother builds. Whatever race you choose will be commended/demonised as the chosen people of the chief Elder Goddess of the world. The societal consequences of such choice are extremely far ranging. It could lead to wars, genocides, a jew-like ethnic religion sprouting or even people joining the Eucumene because they felt betrayed by [JNPL] for choosing their enemies over them. That's why I would personally choose a relatively inoffensive minority like the Sierogrivians/Tempered or even an extinct one like the Rzheite to avoid the trouble.
>>96466005If you want for it to be "successful like OR", that is, generating tons of discussion for numerous threads, it'll need to have plenty of lore and options to discuss.And I forgot to add, but multiplayer potential is a big one, it's gun to talk about it with anons.
>>96466119>That's why I would personally choose a relatively inoffensive minority like the Sierogrivians/Tempered or even an extinct one like the Rzheite to avoid the trouble.pussy
>>96466119Still can't choose any of the extended races.Also how would anybody know, and why would they take your word on it if it so heavily messes with their world view? Cognitive dissonance will prevail
>>96466119Walking around as the only phoniex that isn't an Empyrean would make for interesting interactions
>>96466118Don Quixote would definitely have Icon of Icons if he existed in the world of OR.
>>96466016The funeral encounter is a pretty good one, the haughty guild adventurers one too, local festivals, minor nobles disputing over frivolous things and irritating the populace, being asked to do something mundane, yet no local one in the village can do, like killing some coyotes/foxes that are killing farm animals.
>>96466132>Still can't choose any of the extended races.As long as it's not warmachina, undead or empyrean Tank already said you could
>>96466119I'd want to be a Changeling.
>>96466150But there is no more male Eldar. Nobody will be able to impregnate you.
>>96466016Visit to the big city!
>>96466146>>96466108>>96466091Noted, thanks
>>96466149No, he said he will fix it in an update, it's not intended.It also contradicts the rules in 2 places: first in the phrasing of the header (any race below while respecting requirements) and then in the Other category, catch-all for all the extra races, which has the requirement of 0^0 being gone
>>96466158Anon I know Vesryn is a twink but he's still capable of getting someone pregnant if he has to
>>96466158Vesryn exists
>>96466166[JNPL] bros, we've been merged...
>>96466166And as he said, until that update comes it is legal if he remembers to include it.
>>96466016>Tumen potato farmer wakes up one day as the king's guard knocks on his door>They tell him that in three days he will try to incite a group of villagers to switch sides to the old throne and they ask him to not do it>The man nods solemnly and goes back to work
>>96466179Wrong is wrong even if he said he would turn a blind eye (which is meaningless banter)Besides, it read more like he was going to clarify it isn't legal, not that he'd make it legal
>>96466180kek
>>96466127>pussyAnon, we already have enough wars brewing and other troubles on our hand, a massive religious war is the LAST thing any sane person would want at this time.>>96466132>Also how would anybody know, and why would they take your word on it if it so heavily messes with their world view? Cognitive dissonance will prevailThat is true however, people like Dirk, Jdan and Dei would definitely know, whether they choose to keep it a secret or reveal it to the public would heavily depend on how favourable your choice of race is to them. Also the Exarchate take the words of Outsiders very seriously, I'm sure they'll just take your word for it if it serves their agenda.>>96466141>Walking around as the only phoniex that isn't an Empyrean would make for interesting interactionsI did consider them, but those damn wing-hands look like a major inconvenience.
>>96466196If he remembers to include the change*Until that update happens, you're not going to stop anons from picking from the extended races.
>>96466166I wonder what's the logic for that. I'm not debating the contradiction - but if JNPL can give birth ex nihilo, why would she be limited to the Dorian/Mamet races? Surely she can create up a Mithraic or a Naga?
>>96466163Tank? you mind answering some questions?
>>96466211He didn't seem interested in continuing OR and wanted to work on other projects instead so that's going to be a long time.
>>96466227Asurabros we're IN
>>96466222Their bonuses aren't given,their gifts aren't explicitly described,it's good to limit scope on general principle if you're going to be the rare breed of author who actually releases his oc
>>96466226Not Tank, just an ambitious dlc maker.
>>96466120Fair point.
>>96466206So it amounts to shutting the fuck up about it because none of those are interested in 0^0 winning, got it.Still doubt it because not even 00 can penetrate the veil the Elder Gods options have so they wont know, only sense something is off>>96466211I cant stop anyone, just like you couldnt stop me from writing random words into a build template. Not being able to course correct is a you problem and I will keep pointing it out though>>96466222The Other option states it's because 00 controls them but the more likely variant is that she wouldn't want to as it makes for a boring story. The pieces are all on the board, bringing in the other races would be like putting a warhammer mini on the chess board
>>96466166stop being a no-fun-allowedfag bro.
>>96466226I think it's our child maker.
>>96466248No. If the game is diluted by you fags not playing by the rules I cant enjoy what you put out any more and it would be tragedyAlso "hehe I get an op race I am so sheshul" is lame and cringe
>>96466247>warhammer mini on the chess boardDo you not play chess with stand in pieces? It's like you've never used your sister's polly pocket as a queen, what a boring life.
>>96466196>>96466265>>96466247>waaah waaah stop having funnn! reeeeeeeee!lmao, calm down bro.
>>96466249That is...quite the nickname.
>>96466275Cute attempt at a point but you'd still be playing chess then. Breaking rules is another matter>>96466280I bet you play Tieflings
>>96466282I realized it after posting and cringed, but taking it back would be cowardly.
Did any other CYOA had this "chose your parents among those lists and headcanon how they met, where they live and how they raised you" thing? I don't remember ever seeing it before and I found it very interesting.
>>96466280>I must ignore all the rules to have any funStop posting
>>96466249To clear up some potential confusion I am making two cyoa. >Your child isekaiThis will take much longer. Don't expect this soon. Unrelated to OR.>childhood OR dlc This is the one page dice roll one. Expect this soon.
>>96466247>The Other option states it's because 00 controls them but the more likely variant is that she wouldn't want to as it makes for a boring story. The pieces are all on the board, bringing in the other races would be like putting a warhammer mini on the chess boardUnderstandable, but sad.Being a Changeling using the Alf girl persona to be a magical girl would be fun.Or a stray Ooze trying to save the world before their low lifespan ends.Or the only Giant in a continent that's simply not made for you.Or a Mithraic, for the added connection to Charlotte as you're both descendants.Or...Well, you get the gist. There are fun stories to be told there. Isolation, acceptance, kinship with the enemy, wanting to see your homeland... I understand if she prefers a simpler one though.
>>96466318Based inspiration recipient
>>96466306Yes, there have been a couple but one that comes to mind is pairing up your whole lineage. It had a layout similar to the Archnemisis cyoa and you went as far back as near stone age.
>>96466265>op raceWhat op race? even the peak of special snowflakes like Asuras/Daevas have mediocre gifts.>>96466284>I bet you play TieflingsAh I knew recognised your sweaty aura, a dick&dong screecher in the wild. You should go back to making another wotc seethe thread, this place doesn't suite you.
>>96466318Two cakes?!
>>96466317>I must ignore all the rules to have any funYes I do put fun over soulless mechanics, how did you know?
>>96466333Yeah I see that it just wouldn't mesh well with the network nature of story threads so the resulting builds would be insular. All the struggles of races, kingdoms of categories and deeplore options like Majin and dragons. And your examples only serve to showcase this, only the connection to Charlotte withstanding and there are several other ways to achieve thisBut if you have the goal, maybe you can find some way to exploit and fudge the system into reincarnating into one of those, stealing a body, ... and then it's a story rather than an errant seed.>>96466342The op race was a throwaway and the other half reveals more about you than me
>>96466119Eh, I don't think so. The concept of outsiders is clearly known, and outsiders have been different races before.
>>96466358Limitations give meaning your your choices in any choice based game, they're part of the fun.
>>96466391Have past outsiders get born out of an Elder God thobeit?
>>96466342>>96466358Underage tourist from reddit, the posts
Reminder that until Tankista updates the cyoa you are allowed to be an extended race under jnpl. That's it.
>>96466306https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3?dir=/CYOA%20Creators%2C%20Authors/B/Bluejay%27s%20CYOAs/Age%20Regression%20CYOAAge Regression CYOA by BluejayIt's a /trash/ cyoa but without any actually nsfw images as far as I can see but I really hate it when people post /trash/-but-blue-board-compliant cyoas here so I won't post it directly either
>>96466333You should focus on Charlotte and the Ecumene instead.
>>96466333Don't take the soulless no-funfag words seriously, if Tank wanted to put stop on it he would've done so, and we know that he's the kind of author that purposefully allows minor exploits from how the Dobrava/Keter stuff. In comparison to those, choosing any race you want is nothing.
>>96466412>>96466419
>>96466412You can do the same thing with Unnotable Ones, too.
>>96466404>buzzword×3damn you really got me with this one anon
>>96466431Actually true
>>96466431AKTCHUALLY the Unnotables Ones are all "Human, Any" so- no wait I see it now.
The extended races aren't even worth it.
>>96466440Literally me. This is a valid exploit.Though there might be some concern with the languages?
How long should an average person survive against being looked at with Evil Eye?
>>96466428Empyreans aren't a race retard.
>>96466455Thanks for proving you only look at images and don't actually read anything.
>>96466399No, but the next one will be once I marry [YMRD]
>>96466455"Other " it's written there, readlet-kun. You can't chose any other race unless megabitch is dead.
>>96466450>Though there might be some concern with the languages?Still looking at the Unnotables Ones, they're all talking Everman, so you should be okay. Be prepared to buy the rest though.
>>96466443Exactly so I don't know why the anon that's so against them even cares. Anyone who chooses one of the other races is weakening themsleves not becoming OP.
>>96466440Can you select premithraic human?
>>96466459>>96466468Half of the extended races aren't even under the Eucumene's influence, so yes you are indeed retarded. Also stop samefagging lmao.
Rolled 3 (1d20)>>96466461We will fucking see about thatRolling for total YMRD breeding, For ME and only ME
>>96466488The Mithraic? Well, they ARE Humans, so they fall under "Human, Any", so probably?
>>96466490>Half of the extended races aren't even under the Eucumene's influenceSo? You are still not given the option to chose them simply because that's what's stated. Just take [STRT] Blessing and play by yourself cheating on your own, anon.
>>96466472Yeah but Everman is only spoken on Doria. The standard human languages are Enthramithraic, Greenspeech and perhaps Benewhisper elsewhere.>>96466475Idk it's just the contradiction of truth. You have to be severely retarded to read the relevant segments and conclude the barriers aren't there.>>96466503He means the ones mentione in "one"'s entry
>>96466443Not to mention, the [JNPL] mother option is so crippling that even taking a supposedly "op" race doesn't make up for it.
>>96466490Look, we "samefagged" again within 20 seconds!
>>96466520Her blessing is probably too overrated by the author, divine magic will be the least of your problems, and she can still use it indirectly in numerous ways.
>>96466513>>96466516>he doesn't knowoh no...
>>96466516>Yeah but Everman is only spoken on Doria. The standard human languages are Enthramithraic, Greenspeech and perhaps Benewhisper elsewhere.You'd still born on Doria - logic dictates that part doesn't change despite your dubious origins.
>>96466516>Yeah but Everman is only spoken on Doria.It's like picking up English when you're immigrating to the Western hemisphere.
>>96466520>crippled Regardless of points, if anyone is going to punch Charlie in the face, they are the ones most favored by the narrative to do it.
>>96466440Good point. Human genetics are funny thing making it possible to be born with features from another race that neither of your parents have but their own parents have.
>>96466536It's actually underrated. 0^0 doesn't know that you have Death of the Author. She doesn't even know that it's a possibility.
>>96466490If there's ever a 2.0, tshoshu merfolk and mamet naga are almost certainly being added. They're located in parts of the map explicitly not under ecumene control
>>96466547>>96466552yeah I was being retarded, primed by going through all the languages in relation to races rn
>>96466541We told him, but he ignores it for his convenience.
>>96466398>Limitations give meaning your your choices in any choice based game, they're part of the fun.Never argued otherwise, however consider that choosing annon-listed exotic human over the generic ones available is not one of those "meaningful limitations" that shouldn't be broken. Its mere fluff at best.
>>96466541So by your own words (>>96466412) you now have to wait for the update. I see, pleasure conversing with you.>>96466572Sorry I am not as well versed in the apocrypha (reddit) as you are. Let's make it a whole value of commentary thing like in islam.
>>96466541It's as if Tank knows players will have more fun with it so he allows it. Imagine that.
>>96466580NTA but I think it's okay if you give that choice Meaning instead of doing it for the Gifts or the special snowflake points.
>>96466564She's gonna find out and then start using her divine shit indirectly, not exactly something too hard to do. Especially if you're already used to godscript.
>>96466588>apocryphaI don't even know what that is. >IslamIf it's an islamic thingn I don't know anything about thay either. We're discussing Tank's stance and OR here.
>>96466339Did it have god of bloodlines?
>>96466595Follow the rules.
>>96466618Found it. It was this one.
>>96466541>I will allow you to cheatYeah, thats why the SRTR option exists.He honestly should just officially make JNPL children be able to pick special snowflake races, or just buff it some other way.
>>96466600When it’s first exposed to her, her initial reaction isn’t going to be “Oh obviously he got a secret gift that makes him immune to direct attacks, I can just attack him indirectly”She’ll think “What the fuck!? I’m getting out of here and throwing assassins at him, the last time I messed around and got overconfident I almost died”
>>96466589Tank even allowed us to true love Apantoxia. He's the best.
>>96466635
I wonder when our next OC will be.
>>96466645
>>96466612Apocrypha are parts of the bible that are non-canonical because they can't be attributed with certainty. I borrowed the word to say "it isnt in the cyoa so I dont care" jokingly as arguing about it is moot now.Islam I invoked because there is a schism that, among other things, is based on whether so called Hadiths are canonical or not. Hadiths are reported "the prophet said this though" addons that are not in the quran, implying we can start different in-world religions based on it.
>>96466564Does trying to use divine magic on you count as contradicting something for Deus Ex Machina? If not, then it's overrated.
>>96466600>She's gonna find outIs she though?Remember, she's using JNPL's blood to literally write out what she wants. She can't just instagib you from across the world.All you need to beat her is one single opening.
>>96466631>pic>conveniently crop out the last lineThat's not a point in your favor.
>>96466652
>>96466640I dislike it too but really no point arguing about it now. I think he was hesitant to change it because outright spelling out the existence of the exploit is unfun. But direct contradiction in WoG and work sucks way more.
>>96466666
>>96466662No deathletter would cause instagib anyway.
>>96466663built, hand crafted, divinely shaped for BIG OUTSIDER COCKCharlie will join my harem, inshallah.
>>96466678I'm saying she needs to see (you) to use divine power on (you). She's not finding out that you are immune to it until you meet her face to face. And, if you are confronting her like that, you just need one good opening to win.
>>96466678Factually untrue in a punny way, look at Du'un
>>96466657You attributed it to reddit, something I'm also not familiar with but it seems you are? Long winded name calling about nothing. You're weird.
>>96466672>I think he was hesitant to change it because outright spelling out the existence of the exploit is unfun.Are you talking about the same guy who spilled out the Dobrava/Nimatrix and Keter exploits in day 1 and 2 respectively?
>>96466663Fine fucktard choose>Letter of the Law (JNPL): You don't get to play the Extended Races because it would contradict what's in the CYOA>Spirit of the Law (SRTR): The world is your oyster and loophole abuse is used by everyone in-universe, so you can pick the Extended Races
>>96466163Soap opera event where you can swap out one parents teaching for anothers but its framed as cheating and a divorce. Basically an event based version of adoption.
>>96466706The author of the work explicitly said it was possible, therefore it is possible.
>>96466697This wasn't namecalling its banter you are too stupid and/or uneducated for>>96466701In the cyoa =/= on reddit
Why the fuck would Erginter pick iotated az
>>96466719>This wasn't namecalling its banter you are too stupid and/or uneducated forSure, whatever gets your rocks off. I'm going back to enjoying the cyoa with everyone else and you can enjoy being alone in your thoughts.
I am the dumbest outsider
>>96466735based martialbro
>>96466706>not R'tsy and SlovoI'm disappointed in you.And I choose the Spirit because that's the ultimate goal of all CYOAs, right? The vision. >>96466735Erginter you're back?!
>>96466640>just buff it some other wayIt could use additional framing of JNPL vs Charlie Pillar Description.Your presence enforcing the fundamental law of Providence and ability to inspire others to find Meaning.And also everyone forgetting you have JNPL as a "companion" if you make her your Mother.
>>96466732May have been more interested in creating a powerful body and not cared about actually controlling it as long as he gets to watch
>>96466701Tbf I asked if Keter's "any" language option meant I could get all the languages and he simply said yes. It was other anons who put it together that they could be sold. I just wanted all of the languages.
>>96466719>This wasn't namecalling its banter you are too stupid and/or uneducated forNta but banter is supposed to be funny/friendly, you've just been a stuck-up fag throughout. Its funny how you call everyone reddit, but your mannerism mimics that of a fedora-tipping neckband almost to a T...
>>96466688Right, I was just being pedantic - "She can't just instagib you from across the world." - I was saying that assignment of death letters by itself doesn't instagib people in any case.>>96466692That's something separate from the normal death slot filling, I assume that's unique to her.
>>96466732Being possessed is kind of like stealing an inborn gift if you squint.She was intending to abuse this because she expected to fight Xian "Fiert" Aat. She made her build around it. He was her Charlie of her era, she was aiming for this outcome.Also why she was willing to just grab Savmak sword without fear - she'd probably just steal all of his gifts at once, so Savmak didn't even try to possess her.
>>96466735Savmak bro I'll get you out of that sword
>majintrap raceno icon of icons = no win
>>96466733>I'm going back to enjoying the cyoa with everyone else and you can enjoy being alone in your thoughts.But what if you're secretly the same person samefagging two opposites views to encourage discussion huuuuuuuuuuuuum? He will never be alone in his thoughts cuz you're also there!
>>964667350^0 for $500
>>96466761Well, the funny/friendly needs to be in the same language I suppose. And thats neither my fault nor hisAs for being a stuck-up fedora tipper, without the extra information he posted at the end, when I instantly stopped arguing, he looked like a retard who couldnt read
>>96466778Kalliopa is /right there/, anon
>>96466786It was a superchat donation...
>>96466719>In the cyoa =/= on redditYou've said that WoG trumps all, why are you moving goalposts now?
>>9646673512
>>96466783>He will never be alone in his thoughts cuz you're also there!2000 a month cold
>>96466768How would you do that? Body swap?
>>96466805Spelling out a synergy in the cyoa takes the fun of discovery from the player imo is allDiscussing synergies outside is different
>>96466735>he thinks he can outdumb 0^0You are gonna get jobbed
>>96466768How did he even go in there
>>96466778But Aat won, and so will i
Which extended humans race are the worse ones and why is it Kristi?
>>96466778Unless you made 4chan your personality you can't lose with Icon of Icons.
>>96466735Keter-kun don't be so harsh on yourself, with my help we'll take down Charlie together.
>>96466847Aat was big brain your smol brain.
>>96466853It's Ooze because of Lowlife.
>>96466854One did
>>96466876I have big brain gift so I big brain you smooth brain
>>96466899nta but I hope you also took wisdomyou know he had wisdom right?
>>96466910Wisdom's overrated
>>96466778They are a great combo. I (Wanderer) truly hit the jackpot.>I have Icon of Icons>the other two toyboxers are Daemonhosts
>he needed to pick wisdom>he needed to pick intelligence>he needed to pick attentivenessLMAO
Are TV Tropes users mathemagicians or just very dumb YMRD worshippers?
>>96466878Rude
>>96466929Second one.
>>96466920>t. keter/charlie/erginter
>>96466853Kobolds, they are the comic relief race.
>>96466922Works well with the Outsider religion beastfolk on one of the Isles too>>96466924Enhancing natural gifts instead of branching out seems to be the winning move most places
>>96466910> I hope you took wisdomOf course I did, if you didn't take AT LEAST Wisdom and Intelligence you're are doomed to be a retard, look at Charlie and Keter. Ar least one is salvageable.
>>96466924If you have them already then it's just pushing you further above, if not then they mean your going to be making far less stupid calls.
Mental gifts kill you
>>96466974So does refusing to take Meandering Thoughts.
>>96466948>Woman tierTake that back or I'll feast on your liver
>>96466963>humans>>96466974Coffee kills you
>>96466974Your brain has chemicals in it right nowAnd if it had better chemicals, you would be smarter
>>96466974No, but mine WILL kill you, Charlie.
>>96466965>Enhancing natural giftsAre you implying that anons are naturally intelligent/wise/attentive? If so, I salute your trust in us.
>>96466990>I salute your thrust in usWhy are my eyes tricking me?
>>96466990Hey, there's something good in all of you and I hope you manage to find the right ones to propel you higher with choices than the mere choices would bring you otherwise>>96467004>whyhomosexuality
Outer Tide is the strongest option and it's free, unbalanced CYOA.
>>96467004True Love is a powerful thing.
>>96466853>you have no legs>...but you live longer if you eat babies
How did One manage to live for 100+ years if all he did during that time was just fuck around? Is extending your lifespan that easy?
>>96467026Finally an evil race like me.
>>96467020I dislike “multiplayer”
>>96467042Mithra covered for himHe was chill like that
>>96467045Don't get ahead of yourself, you are a manchild not a manbaby
>>96467042He earned Everlasting
>>96466920WISDOM'S TRACK RECORD>with Wisdom1 One2 Vtorushka3 Aat/Xian (both)5 Yphont6 Tuzik7 Sarmat(8 Erginter - but she would soon gain it)>without Wisdom4 Savmak(8 Erginter - but she would soon gain it)9 Charlotte10 KatyaSo it seems a fairly well-proven pick.
>>96467052You will get raped once we're incarnated.
>>96467004Lay off the coom anon>>96467011Thank you for the encouragement, but I'm afraid most anons are a lost cause.
>>96467042Icon of Icons baby.
>>96467054So earning it is easy, then. It seems that the leeway of permafailure is also much bigger than I thought it was.
>>96467042He probably got Everlasting from [JNPL] at some point after his miscellaneous for fun adventures. He had Vedi anyway so he was bound to survive regardless.
>>96466920>>964670562 points is 2 points niggaif you pick mentors/parents with wisdom it's uselessjust listen to their advice sometimes
>>96467060Odds are good you are a genderswapping freak so I will survive. Please take Thaumiel while you are at it, I will pretend to struggle harder for the favor.>>96467065I dont think so. Nobody is a lost cause and this hobby has incredible demands in regards to attention span and appreciation for one's own thoughts that are hard to cultivate in our world. I would treasure that regardless of where I personally was in life right now.
>>96467020It's a drawback because for each nice, smart or cool anon, you're getting a murderhobo, a /d/ tier coomer, sixteen freeloaders, 5 Royal Claimants playing Risk on Doria, the mandatory dream nerd who doom the timeline, and pro-Charlie retards.
>>96467056>(8 Erginter - but she would soon gain it)It seems it didn't work properly, she should get a refund.
>>96467091Wisdom is what will tell you that you should listen to their advice, but nice try, Charlotte.
>>96467101I will never be a f*male.
>>96467103Unironically worth the trade. Where are you Anon....
>>96467042You all forget that both halves of magical talent make you a legendary caster.
>>96467083One getting it doesn’t mean it’s easy. He was the Outsider most aligned with the gods’ worldview and had the best mentor by far
>>96467109Wisdom is what will tell you that you should have spent that 2AP on a more useful ability.
>>96467115Then one of us will die. What's your letter?
>>96467103Look at the worlds list. Most are ok, though there are some doing dumb stuff, like trying to kill all nonhumans or siding with 0^0, but it's a minority.
>bukibroken outsiderlol
>>96467103>the mandatory dream nerd who doom the timelineYou take that back Outsiders like >>96464199 are vital part of any tide if you want good ending
>>96467122All you have to do is fulfill your quest. For One blessed by JNPL its as easy as accepting the divine order (unlike 2) and thus choosing Humilitas.Also it's mentioned somewhere that it was even easier to attain before
>>96467152Anon that's Bugtranny.
>>96467122To be fair, all the outsiders earned it one way or the other since they either picked it or finished their personal quest.It would be embarrassing to be the only Outsider who didn't fulfill his purpose in the world. Well, second one after Katya.
>>96467137>kill all nonhumansHas potential because Tempered and some undertones in Southlanders really imply this a necessity to unite humanity
>>96463310Name: Ҁ Ф ʌ(Death: Yat)Gender: MalePatron God: YMRD>Boons:Outer TideMentor Slot Mother: Dei (-5AP) (Death: Iotated Ouk)Father: Drynndeh-From-Agartha (Death: Zel) (+1AP)Race: Majin>Languages: BilingualQuietened - Simplified Duergar (+2DP) Late Thulean (+3DP), Drakonian (+1AP,+1DP)Birthplace: Principality of Stygia - Stygia >Inborn Gifts:>From Mother:Daemonhost All Glimpse Royal ClaimSpirit Tap x1Purchased:Misalliance (Father, +10AP)Bitter Sickness (+4AP)Wereplauge (+2AP)>Wizarding Set-up:Cognitive Speed (-2AP)Memory Retention (-2AP)Wisdom (-2AP)Intelligence (-2AP)Attentiveness (-2AP)Spiritual Feel (-2AP)Caster Intuition (-2AP)Racial:Letters of the Damned (Zelo)Misc:Everlasting (-3DP, -3AP)Autoantecedence (-5AP)Spirit Tap x3 (-8AP) Thoroughbreeding (-1AP)>Mentors:Dirk Yesod (-5DP) (Death: Yer', Yee)- Ielziahe-From-Erebus, Half-Ascended ThaumielFeodwra (-4DP) (Death: Tsy) Pukluxun (-4DP) (Death: Iotated Greater Yus)>Companions:Ota (Death: Iotated Az) (-5DP)Izbor (Death: Greater Yus)(-2DP)Baf (Death: Ouk) (-1DP)>Encounters:Playing Traitors - BafRemember the Demon - Dirk YesodBreaking and Entering - OtaOn Full Stomach - FeodwraRespawning Point - IzborJust a Nightmare - Pukluxun Youth:Magical TrainingTheologyProfane LoreJourney Of the SelfMy build, this time with image so hopefully more people notice it. Link to the 45ish here: https://rentry.co/qoppathetalyudiupdate
>>96467152Which one do you have in your world? And which one would you choose given free reign to have in your perfect tide?
>>96463314>Outer TideIf there are any overlaps with my current build and what someone else has already taken in the Outer Tide, just ignore what I said above. Also, fuck optimization, I'm going with whatever seems the coolest. Even if that means I fail.>SRTR>Male>Death: [Buki]>Mother: Zwa Aureole [Her'v]>Father: Iwnn Aureole [Cherv]I get this technically make me inbred? But I'm an outsider, so I suppose it should be fine. Initially I wanted to go for an unnotable mother, but honestly, it kinda feels like they were meant to be paired, given their intersecting storylines. Also the point synergy.>Race: Northerner (duh)No language bonuses - in addition to Everman, Old Northern, and Elven-Northern that my parents have, I'll take Sylphid and Entramithratic.>The Empire of Light and Dark>The Everrising CityThis entire build is based around the Aureole family, so I feel like this is a no-brainer.>Inborn gifts: Ethereal beauty, boiling blood, second wind, cognitive speed, intelligence, martial instinct, noble inclination, eye for shadows, icon of icons, fighter's eye, treacherous palm, royal claimMartial instinct, eye for shadows, icon of icons, and royal claim are free.>Mentors: Gwriel [Glagoli], Zu'us [Tverdo-Yee]>Companions: Evdokia [Dobro-Zhivete], Kalliopa Aureole [Myslete], Omega [Ot], NilmatrixEncounters:>A Lone Gremlin - EvdokiaI get to save the cute goth girl from death and be childhood friends with her. Sounds awesome.>A Hop, A Lean, A Hobgoblin - Gwriel>A Massacre at Midnight - Zu'usOoh, solving a murder mystery with pixie teacher!>On the edge - KalliopaHaving Kalliopa on my team is a bit awkward given I eventually intend to try to get rid of the three regents and take the throne, but , I suppose I would help them out here.>Ready, aim, thunder - OmegaOh this is definitely going to be some BS involving the Ecumene.>Shadow of God - Nihlmatrix>Youth: Martial training, leadership training, profane lore, natural philosophy>Quest: Ameno
>>96467042>Is extending your lifespan that easy?Yes. 17 years old Mlada teaches it.
>>96466974Refusing to take Wisdom kills you
>>96467103This is why I don't choose Tide. I can't have you tards ruining my plans, I can do that myself.
>>96467091>just take others to think for your bruhnpc ahh mindset
>>96467167>My build, this time with image so hopefully more people notice it.I am reading the rentry since last time, but I'm slow and it's hard to remember a character after 10 others. Cool concept though.
>>96467042Just pick agelessness and don't die
>>96467103I'm just playing Outer Tide, with templates of my family posing as the others players.
>>96467170>>A Lone Gremlin - Evdokia>I get to save the cute goth girl from death and be childhood friends with her. Sounds awesome.>>A Hop, A Lean, A Hobgoblin - GwrielRetardbro, you can only use empty slots on Uruk encounters. Also, Nilmatrix still takes a companion slot.
>>96467192Putting in the time to read it is more than enough for me anon. If you had to say who's your favourite so far.
I want to take Outer Tide but instead of random people, it'll be given to me in different dimensions. All of them should do well.
>>96467215Either Tsy the paranoid, Pokoy the voided or Khier the hierophant.
>>96467161It doesn't because most die to a Majin spellcaster. Also no one wil llet them kill their elf waifus.
>>96467169>And which one would you choose given free reign to have in your perfect tide?Dream fairy onahole every time.
>>96467225>Outer Tide but it's all TokSomehow Charlotte and the Elder Gods team up to clean Doria and Mamet.
I want proper version of outsider system for 12th with a canon 11th in it. So we could compare 11th with Keter.
Why are you people like this?
>>96467192What did you think about mine??!?!
>>96467254>canon 11th in itJust use your own build.
>>96467254That's (You) anon.
>>96467259...Is "mine" referring to Ҁ Ф ʌ in this context?
>>96467269Nah just a shout in the void without rhyme or reason
>>96467278But it came from the heart!
>>96467255I've got the chance to live a fun isekai life and I'm going to use it. Not going to waste it being a stressed out hero.
Anyone explain to me how Yee letter works? do you need to take a letter before it? after it? or before it AND after it?
>>96467255I never cared before - why start now?
>>96467254Torrential tide it, we can use peoples image profiles as their mentor/companion/parent profiles and try to imagine the complete schizophrenic mess of a world which pops out from 50 outsiders fucking around and finding out.
>>96465009Thank you for compiling these.
>>96467282Indeed. Depersonalized discussion it is>>96467293Before it. Not sure about after as well. Definitely not without a letter before it
>>96467300That's exactly what I don't want. I want a proper parents and companions who were somehow affected by 11th actions but not crazy tiders themselves. It's an impossible wish, but it would be fun.
>>96465455Can anyone rephrase this in a clearer way for me please?
>>96467313Big steal
>>96467208Northerners get 4 companion slots, so I have 4 companions. As for The Lone Gremlin bit, got it. I genuinely did find that one a bit confusing.
>>96467254I would prefer a reverse.List of potential 12th Outsiders each with their own archetype like previous ones and problems with (you) forced to pick which one will be unleashed on the world.
>>96467309It feels like that would be less a community project and more an individual thing, but it would be fun to make a version with no tiders as options but stuff like the uruk varietals from Jorm and the majin from Qop
>>96467255Sometimes you just so spiteful about existence you don't want to save it.Sometimes you want to make a build, but someone else already did it (and better) so you resign yourself to personal endeavors.Sometimes you think it's a blessing to be brought back, and you toiled for others enough last time.Sometimes you're fully convinced others are equipped enough to deal with the problem.Sometimes you think the Ecumene will collapse on itself.Sometimes you're just narcissitic and don't understand the benefits of helping others. Sometimes you don't think.
>>96467323>I genuinely did find that one a bit confusing.Anon, i sincerily suggest you to take Attentiviness and Wisdom
>>96467328NTA but that would be cool.
>>96467313Say "Ahhhh"Erginter could take other peoples gifts and use them as her ownThis guy wants to do that, but for majin lettersThis is what he wants his x3 crooked caress (autoantecendence) to do
>>96467313Extends the stealing to Majin letters and templates, with unforeseeable synergies with the Yest' majin letter
>>96467323>namefaggingstop that
If you take JNPL as your god you are NOT making it to 200 years of life. You will complete your story in a timely fashion and then it’s back to the reincarnation cycle, buddy.
>>96467360Its not namefagging newfriend. It's contained to one thread and one specific purpose. Though I see the slippery slope
>>96467376One.
>>96467376Vtorusha
>>96467385He had Vedi and Vrotusha fucked his afterlife
>>96467385That was a ONE time thing, anon>>96467393Possession counts as dying
>>96467376I'm her child, I'm part god. She can't kill her own family member.
>>96467343>AttentivinessYou need Attentiveness too.
>>96467396Who possessed her>>96467395i forgor
>>96467385150 years of life, 18 of undeath>>9646739350 years of life, will die soon after being released
>>96467376You know I've always wondered if you took jnpl as a mother then took the possession death, would she just reincarnate through your body?
>>96467413Why on earth would she
>>96467377I ran out of letters to give the build a name so I figured I'd type it in up there for the purpose of giving it a proper label.
>>96467343>AttentivenessANON WATCH OUT
>>96467376Its amazing how many Charlotte types we have in the thread trying to dictate anons adventure based off nothing but autism.
>>96467433Charlotte is a rulebreaker.
>>96467352Daemonhunt do things like that without specific gifts. What a waste of x3.
>>96467426She still seems pretty pissed about 0^0.Her title is also Elder God of the Profane so such a revival seems in character.
If Charlotte's so great, then why didn't any of her simps/imitators take her blessing?
>>96467336Is the Ecumene conquering the world even that bad? these world conquering empires appear once every century anyways, besides there are far more important things to be doing like cultivating new types of cheese
>>964652131 is already in Dream Passage x2. Have both 3 and 4.
>>96467445They dont steal them for themselves for absorption and they also dont steal templates
>>96467453She is gonna kill anon, why would a paranoid evil bitch let a lose end like you stay alive?
Autoantecedence options should be at the level of Icon of Icons.
>>96467452They are tsundere like that
>>96467450Who do you think is in charge of the story? Charly is a prop tolerated, not the other way around
Events section header:>Pick an encounter for each of your chosen mentors and companions.Note in Uruk events:>must apply to an empty Mentor or Companion slotSo do I need both 1 filled AND 1 unfilled Mentor/Companion slot to sign onto an Uruk event?
>>96467456Because she gives you the worst stuff among the 4 of them. Burn points? No thanks. Teaching me that actions have consequences? I already know that, retard.
>>96467471The Uruk encounters are different because their specific rule trumps the general one.One empty mentor/companion slot = One Uruk encounter.
>>96467461>>96465136Which builds have an Icon of Icons level Autoantecedence?
>>96467471No dear, just the unfilled one.You fight the uruk alone
>>96467452Many actually did for every build there are 10 more who never finished reading or just never made a build the unaware followers of 0^0 outnumber everyone else.
>>96467478None, because everyone thinks Icons of Icons is basically a be 4x better at everything gift.
>>96467477>>96467479thank
>>96467472Meant for >>96467452
>>96467486Your
If all the other Outsiders after Vtorusha had a chance to take One as their parent, and nobody wanted him, that's quite sad.
>>96467484No, most people recognize that Icon of Icons is much stronger than that.
>>96467491I want One, I just like my birth parents too.
>>96467494The others probably had a similar situation, aside from Sarmat, Savmak, and Aat(not sure adoption was an option here)
>>96467481Not sure, don't think many people have seen it and not played given how incestuous and insular this hobby is
>>96467491He's a cold rational undead old man. You need to pair him with a sweet beastfolk mother or your childhood will be fucked.
>>96463310What are the characters should one Malice (assuming a generic sane anti-0^0 build)? There's no limit to the number, other than running out of death letters to give.Alezandre is an easy pick.Who else?
>>96467486>>96467490you 'e welcome
Only 2 Outsiders took Icon of Icons, one died to his own apprentice, the other is the worst one.You don't need it.
>>96467511Everyone who had a brain died. You should dig yours out.
>>96467508Pandaemonium and Tenebrae if you dont plan on subverting them. Dirk Yesod if you want to unite humanity.
>>96467513No true, i didn't.
>>96467508>sane anti-0^0 build>Malice
>>96467478>MoonmanShittier all glimpse>WAtSoFGood but still not a complete game changer>FoTPAFirmly in the mid to top category, depends on how good the enhancement is>QTLDefinitively IoI tier with the abilities stated to be produced.>ULLow IoI tier, ridiculously good for transport and scouting especially when combined with all glimpse.>ZyneheartDiscount IoI which scales with being a mentor rather than a companion.>LiadanVauge as shit but could be busted if used to control Vtorusha by entering the nightmare beneath dis or if used to create a dungeon empire.>RozirToo vauge to say>SevastianWould be incredibly good on a native with useful past lives, if you get someone like Erginters old mentor then it could scale to IoI tier but its main use is in making good subordinates and overcoming Az.>ThaumaradrakScales well, I would consider it closer to Daemonhost than IoI but it could make for a very powerful character with the right combo of undead (1 from each continent for magic style variety?)
>>96467513>I have a brain inside me RIGHT NOWThanks for the heads up bro, I'm fetching my spoon.
>>96467505It's quite likely if you take reddit into account, actually finishing a build takes quite a bit of effort you need a whole sheet to track everything, the vast majority of viewers will have never finished a build.
>>96467517Keter was an anti-0^0 build and had her as a patron regardless. Not a smart or successful move but reasonably sane
>>96467508Rhucuphre. She might be less guarded without the obvious presence of an Outsider.
>>96467478Thaumaradrak has one trick that puts it above Icons if it can be pulled off.Touching 0^0 and making a demonic undead copy of her.
>>96467531>reasonably saneI strongly disagree.
>>96467508Killing Alezandre just makes the curse stronger and go to a new person
>>96467534Impactful but incredibly retardedly destructive
>>96467541So the real answer is to make him undead and seal him away somewhere?
>>96467531You know might have been quite a great strategy 0^0 probably was far less against new outsiders before Keter tried to murder her. So she probably could have used the patronage to reduce 0^0 suspicion
>>96467531She and the elves dabbed on her a bit, and she's ready to tell you how to escape your Buki for the cheap price of 5 Destiny Points!She does have shit taste in women though.
>>96467461Alright, which -tuplecasting is appropriate for Autoantecedence Magician's Hand? Septuple (7), nonuple (9), undecuple (11), tredecuple (13), etc.? Should I add a spell storage as well?
>>96467547Become the next>>96467549I am pretty sure her master plan isn't possible anymore
>>96465188That Faina build did.
>>96467553Unlimited repeat casts (within the limits of the Meaning economy) until you cast a different spell.
>>96461391If undeath is the state of being too attached to the world to let go when your story ends, and empyreality is the state of being so separated from the world that destruction of the physical is meaningless, undead empyreality must be a state where one is not a part of the world but refuses to let it go anyways.The obvious analogy, then, is a member of the audience who, for whatever reason, cannot move on after a story ends. They keep re-reading the same book over and over again until they no longer find joy in it, in vain hope that it can return them to a past that is past. From the point of view of the world, the empyrean becomes trapped in a dream of their own making, no longer able to interact with the world but also unable to leave it and begin anew.
>>96467553>>96467574Sorry, forgot to say that I'm Wanderer and my Autoantecedence was originally "Each hand can hold two spells, which are no longer limited to copies. The hands improve the user's spellcasting ability, enabling quintuplecasting of different spells rather than only the same one.", so I want to have casting of different spells.
>>96467584That one seems fine, or at least not super bullshit.
>>96467577A cautionary tale.
>>96467590That's what I thought as well, but I've been told that it's too weak before and now people say that Autoantecedence should be as good as Icon of Icons (which makes sense considering its price).
>>96467601I would say a range from all-glimpse to Icon of Icons is reasonable which the boosted multi-cast definitely falls within.
>>96467601Didn't he said it should be equivalent to Greater Warmachina abilities? Go read those on the extended races section.
>>96467577Always knew this general is bound for ascension
>>96466963I would actually no joke be deeply tempted to be a Kobold if it was an option.
>>96467520>Shittier all glimpseThe All Glimpse gives fate data, the words of the godscript a things present is written inI need much more then thatI need context, quantification, I need numbersJNPL can't count, so I must fashion my own gift if I am to have numbers
>>96467645Momfags, a m*rchant is insulting your mom
>>96467520>Liadan>Vauge as shit but could be bustedThe CYOA doesn't deal in hard numbers intentionally, so I also left it vague.It scales as much as needed to be slightly above the level of All-Glimpse or Icon of Icons, since it costs one point more.Another use I thought about, besides those mentioned, is to directly increase the potency and precision of the dream trance from Upunth mentorship. The longer you are in a trance, the more your dreams invade reality.
>>96467453According to the hidden text, Charlotte has everyone work in wagecuck slavery hell.
How many of you expect to meet your companions before becoming an adult? Are encounters a part of your youth?
>>96467699>wagecuck slavery hell.This is the future Charlie simps are fighting for
>>96467445>>96467456There's a damonhunt mentor who allows you to steal letters for yourself, but he uses them to facilitate ritual magic/magic circles.
>>96467715
>>96467731Guess I will buff it to stealing Memories and Inborn gifts then.More seriously, what do you deem an appropriate power level?
>>96467744Removed the empty white.
>>96467715I will because i Dice Fudged Keter into becoming a companion after mentorship. Anything else is kinda unlikely unless you use All Along>>96467741Not guaranteed, still can happen
>>96467715My buddy Jdan is going to help ensure that I meet my companions at the absolute optimum time. If that means I need to get kidnapped as a baby or something to do it then that's what'll happen.
>>96467790There are encounters thatt turn mentors into companions as well
>>96467809How do you get these though? You get one encounter per Mentor/Companion, you'd need an extra one to add this, no?Is the only way to take this to have someone with Crossed Paths or Nothing Ever Happens?
>>96467763Pixiechads stay winning
My build doesn't mesh thematically with Icon of Icons. I do have enough points to take it. Am I a sellout if I take it, or a wuss if I don't?
>>96467820You don't need a second death slot to add Zhivete, which has the same wording as the "Special:" section. It's just an additional encounter that you can take on a mentor who also has a primary one.
>>96467831If your build doesn't mesh thematically from it, you're not going to benefit from it. Icon of Icons is for rulers or friendmakers, if you're not going to rule and you don't want to make friends it's a waste of points.
>>96467833That seems like it's a free guaranteed a mentor will stick around with no drawback then, kinda strange;
>>96467831Wdym "doesn't mesh thematically"? Are you planning on being a friendless loser?
>>96467840>friendmakersIt's a bit funny to divide people into "friendmakers" and those who can't make any friends. Well the latter do exist but it's something of an exception.
>>96467820>>96467833Nta but does the mentor becoming a companion take a companion slot? Because I'm fresh out of those.
>>96467856I believe it should take an "encounter slot", so it's not just free stuff, but not a Companion one,
>>96467850I mean thematically it's really for cult leaders like Mithra and other extremely popular figures. As has been plentifully noted, as written it's a huge boost for anyone, but it feels like a thematic mismatch then.
>>96467852I mean, we're in /cyoag/, people who can't make friends are more common here than normal.
>>96467850Having friends reduces the amount of time you can spend studying magic.Only a jobber would have friends.
>>96467763>morlock x morlock is danger>pixie x pixie is underwriteWhat?
>>96467820We honestly don't know, in my opinion it means having a companion slot open for the change but that seems very expensive when you could simply dice fudge or untimeskip them, but them being free also makes those pointless. It's a shame because they are cool encounters.
>>96467867>He doesn't have friends who'll help him study magicClassic Daemonhunter desu
>>96467878It doesn't need a companion slot open. If you take All Along or Nothing Ever Happens, you don't chose an encounter for them, but still gain an encounter because you took them, since it's "an encounter per mentor/companion"
>>96467820It's just an "add on", so far as I can tell. It says it's supposed to be added as a a second encounter. It doesn't say you only get one encounter per companion/mentor, it says you need to pick one for each.
>>96467865Power attracts
>>96467843It's not free; it requires going on a suicide mission. Even if you're fated to survive, there's lots of ways things can go wrong that don't contradict your final letter.
>>96467901If you have 3 companions and 2 mentors, and you pick and encounter for each, you used them all up. If you took All Along for one, you have an encounter remaining, which can be sued either on that, or the Uruk encounters.With Death Slots is different because you can't get more than one per character in any way.
>>96467902Someone who's hanging around you to benefit from your power is not your friend
just realized my build is hilariously illegal and none of you said anything
>>96467910Most encounters involve some sort of risk. By free, i mean they give you one extra encounter and one extra guaranteed companion.
>>96467921I didn't read it
>>96467865It's ok, anyone can make friend if the right options are taken.
Please define what a "friend" is if not someone who:spends time with youshares goalsbenefits from being with youHaving power means you have friends.
>>96467921>just realized my build is hilariously ignored*
>>96467923The CYOA makes you pay with fate points if you want to skip encounters. The danger of encounters is treated as a cost.
>>96467921That just means nobody cared about your build
>>96467921I have never read a single build for OR.I'm here to discuss the lore and characters.
>>96467936May Chance always favor you, my sibling in YMRD
>>96467936My eyes go blurry just keeping track of my own build. My respect for the natural Attentiveness of those who actually vet the builds of others
>>96467936Did you at least made a build yourself?
>>96467926Erginter didn't have any friends.
>>96467919Grows from exposure
>>96467954I did but I didn't post it.
>>96467924>>96467930>>96467933I didn't read yours either but I held you to higher standards
>>96467956Anon, she had a HUSBAND and KIDS.
>>96467956Erginter got a husband without using True Love, which actually puts her far ahead of most anons.
>>96467921I ignore shopping list builds. Numbers aren't exciting if there is no story accompanying them.
>>96467967Her kids weren't born while she was alive.
>>96467978I just figured out its not actually illegal so I forgive you
>>96467968Mr. Erginter lost to his female hormones, because he didn't assign True Love to ensure he could be a lesbian, so his female body defaulted to being straight.
>>96467931I still am to believe if that thing was "free", then there would be no reason not to take it.You are also pretty much guaranteed to survive, and that encounter sends an elite team along with you, you'd need to have a pretty meme build to fail.
>>96463310>>96463314>>96463318Give me a 100 word or less summary of your build and I shall rank them by how based they are.
>your drakonid body is the opposite sexWhat would you do if you had this problem?
>>96467993Like, you mean turning into a dragon changes your sex?
>>96467968Not true, my wife Omega loves me even without that accursed perk.
>>96468001You're going to get treasured friendzoned.
>>96468001Aat believed similarly.
>>96467993Masturbate until everything hurts.
>>96467968Fuck you too?
>>96468008Maybe he shouldn't have gonna for someone who was a half-decaying corpse who may have become assexual at that point?
>>96467968Do we ever got a confirmation if other Outsider ever True Loved their companions/mentors or did it just happen naturally?
>>96467987¯\_(ツ)_/¯ believe what you want, the rules text remains literally identical to Zhivete and Yee. I think you just disagree with a balance decision and are inventing rules that don't exist rather than accepting that it doesn't work the way you think it should.
>>96467993Fuck cars.
>>96468025I'm not "inventing rules", it literally fits with eveyrhing i said.The rules are not "literally identical to Zhivete and Yee" because they say "mean to be added to another LETTER", not to "another SLOT", completly different things. You just want to cheat anon, and that's fine, you have [SRTR]'s blessing.
>>96467990Majin are ideas/letters emanating from one starting point. My build plans to undo the race and remaking it better from a new starting point: me.To make some progress with all that was learned, just as Aat intended, by incorporating all their expressions and identities.And in the process redeeming it as Dei already began, to then either be strong enough to be an asset against 0^0 or at least be compatible with a greater unification scheme within my tide. Continue the Long March to heaven.
>>96468026Cupsize?
>>96468015There's no need to talk shit about your fellow outsider's fetishes. He liked what he liked.
>>96468045You're now misquoting the actual text in support of your imagined rules, anon. Try reading sometime, you might find yourself less confused.
>>96468058Pyramid sized
>>96468063
>>96468066Read the encounter text again, anon. I know you can do this.
>>96468064You missed one inversion
>>96467927A friend is someone who is with you because they enjoy your company and care for you even if you're powerless. What you are describing is more like an employee or co-worker.
>>96468073"Added as a second encounter", does indeed, imply it still takes an encounter. That's just to override the fact that normally a character can only have one encounter, not to make it give a second one for free.
>>96468075Cope from people who have neither something to offer (not necessarily power) nor friends. The platonic ideal unironically never was available and if you believe otherwise you are lying to yourself.
>>96467927You're describing a sycophant/golddigger not a friend. A true friend is someone who:>Cares about you on a personal level.>Willing to make sacrifices for your sake and vice versa.>Won't betray you for the world.
>>96468077"added to any other letter" does indeed imply it still takes a letter. That's just to override the fact that normally a character can only have one letter, not to make it give a second one for free.
>>96467993See what the big deal is about having a dick and go fuck another dragon.
>>96468088When you add a letter to another one, the result is still one letter. It's Godscript, i ain't gotta explain shit.
>>96468086>thinks you are more fun than being alone>receives more from the transaction than they give, and are smart enough to see this long term>receives psychological gratification from being ride or die and haven't been pushed beyond yetWhat you are failing to describe isn't friendship either, it's blind mentally ill dependency.
>>96468100So you admit that you're just making shit up. Glad we're on the same page now.
Just let the idiot pick Icon of Icons then treat people like shit and get surrounded by toadies. When Charlotte kicks his teeth in, the whole thing will be an important lesson to the 12th Outsider about how you actually need to play into your archetype like Keter is.
>>96468082Spoken like someone who's never had an actual friend. That's unfortunate.
>>96468100Does that imply there is a Yee equivalent to every iotated letter?
>>96468108Friendship isn't zero sum, but still bound by gain.
>>96468106You didn't read how the letters are composed, did you? And also chose to ignore that one thing, such as having more encounters than you have mentors/companions is possible, but having more Death Slots is not, and instead of going for the reasonable explanation, you go for the powegaming one that nets you more free stuff.It's fine anon, be sure to also take every cool guy exploit to be super mega baddass!
>>96468110That's one way to see it, same with Zemlaya and the Lesser and Greater ones.
>>96468117You will never be YMRD.
Evdokia or Omega?
>>96468130Evdokia
>>96468130Both and Araith for Gunter.
>>96468130Omega, give Evdokia to Gunter.
>>96468125Don't think lesser and greater are modifiers, they are part of the actual letter name no? It's not possible to extract Yus from them in the sigil
>>96467990Man intentionally gives himself amnesia so that he can take his memories back with dream logic and Aztec magic, becomes two people, then both of them at once as an immortal forest spirit. The same trick summons Terran magic into this world in the form of magical trees. He doesn't do this to destroy or overwrite the world, only to bring the Meaning of Xi into the reincarnations of all souls and fix the plan of the gods.
>>96468115Yes, the gain is companionship. We gain someone to talk to about our interests, listen to each other's issues, help out when we can and go out together or stay in together. Have you never had a friend check in to makebsure you're doing alright when you've been unusually quiet? Sent you gifts because they thought about you? Talk you out of doing something stupid? And you do the same in turn?
>>96468137>>96468141cucks
>>96468103>local autist struggles to comprehend the idea of basic human connection poor guy
>>96468130Evdokia is way more OP, if an Empyrean just dies in her radius she just becomes Omega but better. But the other one is kinda the 11th's designated Waifu.
>>96468130Both will help in my quest to redeem Charlotte, she needs to face her latest failures and find forgiveness for what she did.
>>96468149Done all of that, just didn't cope that it was about anything higher than mutual extraction of internal psychological valueIt's actually very transparent if you ever spent time with a girl
>>96468130Omega because you get [YRMD] with her by default.
>>96468158This is the kind of guys you get when you pick Outer Tide btw
>>96468151You just choose to ignore what flows through the connection and sanctify the bridge itself.
>>96468155Does Evdokia actually get their qualities? I thought she could just summon them to do things for her.
>>96468158You sound like me when I was 13.
>>96468167She ain't no jobber
>>96468165I have never betrayed anyone in my life and get my gratification from giving to other people whenever I can. Whatever strawman you are building you will be taking with you regardless
>>96468150>You are a cuck if your friend has a hot chick companionYou will never benefit from Icon of Icons
>>96468177Yeah that sounds like she summons them and then they do things to me
>>96468045encounter "slots" arent mentioned at all, because you arent picking "One" encounter for each companion/mentor, you're picking "an" encounter. you can only pick one per character because you can only encounter someone for the first time once, which is why those encounters specify you're supposed to add them to a character as a second encounter. If they were supposed to cost more points, the cost would be written in the encounter, like it is with "By Design".
>>96468183Actually now that i read it, can she summon spirits and they can use their abilities, or can she summons spirits and she can use their abilities herself? Was that ever clarified?Either way, she's still probably stronger.
>>96467990>their still lucid spirits to act as her servants (...) and use their abilities and skills for her benefitThat doesn't seem like copying their abilities, it seems like summoning.
>>96468193Most likely the former
I think her power's inspired by Glaistig Uaine from Worm.
>>96468182I will believe you are really cool if you sit in the chair and call your wife
>>96468207I'd believe it given Ota-Khepri.
>>96468193To me it reads as summoning and they use abilities
>>96468165I choose to believe that kind of character will mellow out after a few years and Encounters.
>>96468210>Evdokia gets a stronger version of Glaistig Uaine's power>Ota gets a Khepri's power with a bigger range, but no infinite multitasking(strongest thing about it)
Is there any companion stonger than Evdokia and Ota?
>>96467990Rhucphre's autistic daughter and Charlie's worst follower, diving deep into the nature of minds, building clarktech mechas with some impersonation of political leaders as a phase.A trusted member of the Daemonhunt, who deeply respects One as her adoptive father and relentlessly invents new ways to drive away the Nightmare, only to merge the world with an untainted dream and break the cycle forever.Secretly wants to just build her small Underground realm and chill, envies Yphont.
>>96468228[YMRD]
>>96468228People kept hyping up Dobrova and Gunter and Blazkho so them
>>96468228YMRD, lol.
>>96468217You are both mistaken if you believe I dont value cooperation. I just went with Kant in regards to good deeds having gratifying value to the actor and thus not really being morally good, and that extends to your vague conception of friendship.Friendships are joyous, they elevate you and all that jazz, that's the point though
>>96468207>>96468210There's also Imp/???, and Zenia kinda has a one-time-use Path to Victory when she appears. (Also, tank has a worm CYOA lol)
>>96468228Inga Yesod (forma falsioso ascendio)
>>96468232Dobrava is only strong because of her one time hacks. Blazhko can learn new things, but nothing unique. Gunter is strong because he can get Evdokia, Ota, and other costly companions, for the cost of 1 destiny point, but they'd be in his party, not yours, he and his cang will most likely still help you though.
>>96468228Depends on what you consider “strength”There’s YMRD but I assume you’re not counting her or you would’ve said herI would say Inga Yesod is the most powerful when you’re looking at more than just fightingDobrava also has hax
>>96468228Nilmatrix
>>96468228The 12th obviously
>>96468234>good deeds having gratifying value to the actor and thus not really being morally good...I'm not sure to understand what's written there. If you do something good because it was the right thing to do (based on your knowledge), it's not really good because...?
>>96468251You got that wrong anon, (You) are her strongest companion (the next selection will be shit)
>>96468228Outer Tide
>>96468248Dobrava solo btw
>>96468228Depends on what you call stronger.Araith is a walking collosus that can probably destroy cities by herself, but she lacks Edvokia finesse or Ota esoteric bullshit. Darina can probably beat them all at the same time in a fight but that's all she's good for, Okma is a living mech, etc.Your companions can all be monsters in the right circumstances. Except Geminara but she's cute.
>>96468245Blazhko is for giving Leimeie and having him nearly double your effective mentor training.
Dobrava should just kill 0^0 on her own with her 2000 IQ.
>>96468228Araith would squash her and her cute lil summons like a gnat.
>>96468164How? Is YMRD there for you to purchase just to troll you then?
>>96468269I'd still bet on Nilmatrix. She should only be killable by me after an intense battle filled with melodramatic shouts.
>>96468272Because yrmd supports Omega. Having Omega with you means you basically have yrmd on your side.
>>96468271>Ota shadow touches her gigantic body>Insta possessed
>>96468278Interesting way to describe handholding mating press procreative sex.
>>96468228Baf is "Instant Xian, just add water". Potentially as strong as Evdokia or even stronger directly and with a way greater political capital.
>>96468164Don't forget that SRTR is supporting her (and your relationship with her) too, she's just you know, not doing as much since she's in the toybox.
>>96468245Imagine not giving Gunter the standard RPG party composition of Gisela, Alezandre and Sigard. Other companions will simply outshine him after the designated encounters and steal the spotlight from him, don't do that to your slightly insane friendly rival.
>>96468279They all support you if you oppose 0^0, doesn't mean they're free companions/mentors. The cost in points might be to empower her or however you headcanon it.
>>96468265>Except Geminara but she's cute.I didn't see the appeal, she just seems like another generic kawaii elf companion. Is it because she simps for you?
>>96468255General gist of it is: If I as a regular person decide to do good, I do so for reasons. I get gratification, or social standing, admiration, whatever.It is impossible to do good for good itself without being aware of these positive byfactors, and therefor it is impossible to do a good deed.This usually trips people up in philosophy 101 and is heavily drenched in christian or at least platonic thought.This is in ethics though. If you mess around with neurobiology a bit and then export it to all social relationships (the very basis of human life so I am not saying those are bad), you may conclude that it's all transactional and therefor that friendship "for friendships sake" is not a platonic ideal either, it is transactional and thus if you have more to give (ie power) others will see it and cannot ever be said to have ignored it in their choice of friends. True friendship in the romantic sense isn't real, though much desirable. Just like all other good things in life.Hope that clears it up
>>96468286>Instant Xian, just add water*sneak her into the holiest temple in a nation that kills majin on sight
>>96468290>other companions will simply outshine himNah, he'd win. He's just built different.
>>96468283>handholding mating press procreative sexWhile I agree the star-crossed lovers aspect is very tempting, I don't think you have the time to have sex on the battlefield.
I would like Oko significantly more if she looked like an actual mech instead of like a giant woman.
>>96468298Mother JNPL raised no jobber.
>>96468289>SRTR is supporting her (and your relationship with her)Where did you get that from?
>>96468281She needs to step on Ota's shadow to activate her possession ability. Araith can vaporise her from 100 miles away with her nightmare breath.
>>96468290Gunter is for giving 5 point companions who he grows greatly attached to only to lose them all as you Fiert him and take his Qlippoth heir powers for yourself along with your Tenyota'd original powers and proceed to give him the Cuck PoV NTR protagonist experience. He will say thank you at the end because you gave him the ultimate spiritual punishment for his masochistic self.
>>96468255It's just the same anon that was trying to tell people they can't pick other races under jnpl. We stopped talking to him and now he's come up with something else to argue about.
>>96468265>AraithDoesn't she breathe pure nightmare. That ought to have esoteric applications
Rule 1. Dobrava solos.
>>96468279If you sell Omega but still pick her as a companion I imagine that she will be annoyed that you killed a salvaged plot point that she decided to pick up, but she will still help you. At worst she will just glare at you from time to time as seemingly random unlucky events happen around you, like stepping on a banana peel.
>>96468298*that is soon to be in a civil war over Outsider worship*
>>96468298This is why having a fairy companion is so good.
>>96468330Nah, Pixies suuq.
>>96468333You're duumed.
Su’uq is actually a great companion and most of us would benefit tremendously from her.
Fiert is a great death but all the bodies available aren't appealing to me. Where is the customization option?
>>96468228Aside from YMRD, undoubtedly Zenia.
>>96468296It sounds like a moral philosophy designed to deny the possibility of Good. Deep in my soul, I find it retarded on instinct.Then I think about it some more, remember plenty of good actions that had no benefits for the person, not even satisfaction, and I find it even more retarded.Might as well declare everyone evil by nature because everything is actually about self-preservation and how to lengthen your lifespan. Charlotte would believe it.Why are you even entertaining that logic?
>>96468340>>96468333Horrible puun.
>>96468304Real, Tank really dropped the ball with the coomerbait pic instead of a badass battle chasis.
>>96468286I'm guessing her shortened lifespan will remain the same and she won't have whatever other things Xian had in his life other than spawning demon lords. She's still great if you can pull it off but I wouldn't put her on the same level as companions with almost unlimited potential.
>>96468343>Where is the customization option?Anon...Your body.
>>96468314I need more ideas to spiritual suffermaxxx Gunter so he'll love me forever.
>>96468290>your slightly insane friendly rival.One-sided dynamic. He's just the guy defeating Nilmatrix with Dobrava for me.
>>96468291The difference is that [YRMD] is incredibly invested in Omega to the point of interfering with system directly on her behalf.
>>96468352She is dying because her letter demands to be used. Once she does it the problem should disappear.
>>96468355My body is determined by my parents unless I choose jnpl. I can't be a brown skin, green eyed, blue haired Tumen.
>>96468369Like the one interfering directly to be your mom? Or the one interfering directly to the point of pulling her into her rape dungeon? They all do that.
>>96463310So, who are you giving By Design?
>>96468362Be a tsundere
>>96468382My daughter.
>>96468296NTA, I don't think "transactional" is a good word there? Much of friendship-related behavior can be described as habitual or instinctive; if you really want you might formulate some "transactions" there but it's rather contrived; you'll be nearing the point where one billiard ball bouncing off another is "transactional", or maybe Sun and Earth orbiting are "transactional"? It seems to me there's merely a cultural convention of describing interactions between pieces of biological machinery as "transactional" but not interactions between billiard balls or Earth and Sun, and this distinction doesn't demonstrate anything of substance.
>>96468382My fucktoy (daughter)
>>96468382Keter, and hope she gets OP respawns like Omega and gets less depressed because she won't have to worry about cheating the rune again.
>>96468382Keter
>>96468228Sonya has triple Witchshot, and we all know what that does.
>>96468384That will just make all the Tiders obsessed with me.
>>96468382Araith then I'm stealing her body
>>96468394Smartest Fiert user.
>>96468391More bullets?
>>96468382No one, it is too expensive. We'll cheat our letters together.
>>96468369There's still no indication that she'll join your party if you don't pay the points. She's already fated Omega into a good ending; it's entirely possible that her next move is to just wait until that fate plays out.Her preferred solution to universal divinity is playing an apocalypse slot machine until she hits the jackpot. She's not necessarily going to take the straightforward path. Especially not if you just expect her to show up with no effort on your part. She's filling in for SRTR too, and divine rewards have to be earned in an epic.
>>96468399Every shot has 200% more bullet in it than double witchshot
>>96468369They do that because you're a literal outsider. Omega is a normal character who's heavily favoured by [YRMD] and is being given incredibly preferential treatment. This is supposed to be made even clearer with the Ot letter but apparently some people are too retarded to catch on something as apparent as that.
If I had a pixie companion, I would totally jar her. For a week as a joke. She would be so furious.
>>96468399It has all the powers of triple Witchshot.
Can anyone give me a good argument for far graze? Is it good? Seems very circumstantially useful for it's high price.
>>96468407That's a lotta dakka
Can All-Glimpse see ??? when she’s hiding?
>>96468409We should diminish this anon, then jar him for a month as a joke
>>96468349>Why are you even entertaining that logic?Because it's logical and seemlessly integrates with the rest of it. You don't believe in logic, you see it.>Might as well declare everyone evil by nature because everything is actually about self-preservation and how to lengthen your lifespan.I know a few billion people living in cultures that religiously believed this until they did away with the concept of belief>Then I think about it some more, remember plenty of good actions that had no benefits for the person, not even satisfactionX to doubt. I don't live your life obviously but nobody acts without reasons, and reasons are informed by the exact kind of scalework that excludes both the true friend and the true good deed>Deep in my soul, I find it retarded on instinctIt's one of those, there are a few. As I said, people usually voice discontent whenever confronted with the idea. I presented it poorly as well, but that tracks either way.>It sounds like a moral philosophy designed to deny the possibility of Good.To the contrary. Good exists, just not in human deed, unless by chance. It exists in our ideas (platonic) or God (religious) and can guide us to better outcomes, but only as a Telos/goal and not as something that we can ever achieve and put behind us>>96468387Habit and instinct are likewise not "True" in the unspoken sense we are all meandering around no? I definitely agree that those are aspects too, I just fail to see the transcendental value that would give the sort of value I so hereticaly doubted when this chain sparked. Sun and Earth and billiard balls have no desire and no will and no friendship, but inadvertently you are getting closer to the deterministic materialism somewhere down there that probably cascades into this difference of opinionThe actual cultural convention is conflating proximity with relationships with bonds. Friendship is a goal and if you dont seize it you wont reach it. Power is an avenue.
>>96468382Apantoxia is the only real choice.
>>96468422Depends on how good you are at using it. There are levels to it, and most anons probably won't be Dirk tier with it.
>>96468389>>96468390Why though>>96468398They really do seem to be 8 cuts below the rest
>>96468422What part of "All" did you fail to Glimpse?
>>96468422Dunno about you bro, but i can, i believe it.
>>96468423Send him to the undead nightmare spider dragon breeding dungeon.
>>96468424Could you both just stop with this already?
>>96468445But that's a reward???
>>96468417anime convention included just to be there, disregard
>>96468446why
>>96468417No lol. Just be a mage instead of playing cope telekinetic.
>>96468406>There's still no indication that she'll join your party if you don't pay the pointsNever said she does, I just meant that she'll be more heavily invested in your adventure than otherwise.
>>96468391Anons have argued everything from "like 1 more gun than double witchshot" to "the bullets are fated to hit the target no save game over".
>>96468394>>96468398I'm pretty sure the Fiert gets cancelled since their rune is broken. I wonder what that means for you though.
>>96468481I want to be special thobeit.
>>96468417It's honestly terrible. It should have just been Telekinesis to be worth 4 points.
Fiertfags are boring because they'll never be Aat/Xian.
>>96468491Nothing because it doesn't slot into your death slot at all. You will just lose your get out of jail free card
>>96468437>Why thoughShe'd be an (half) Empyrean with Everlasting, it's a good combo, if Omega's description is to be believed. Also getting her out of depression is really important, since she knows the system, she'll know the Meaning of giving her that and like you more.That's my headcanon anyways, i also had no one else better to give it because they either had no slots, were a mentor who got Ouk'd, or were Gunter and his companions, who had runes fitted better with Zhivete and Yuses lol
Ersatz... you betrayed me and mine.
>>96468488>"the bullets are fated to hit the target no save game over".Doesn't double witchshot already have aimbot?
>>96468496Almost like there are no major targets to Fiert. Aat had the Original Demon Lord to choose. We have Evdokia, Araith, and Dei as our best targets.
>>96468437Because she could be given a second chance to redeem herself. A comeback scenario where the failed, drunken former hero gets their chance to do something right and finish the job she started.
>>96468496We will never be as great as him or Sarmat-sama bros...
>>96468503Who?
>>96468504Yes, but it's blocked by bulletproof skin, demonhunt defensive magic, etc. Fated hit would be uncounterable.
>>96468488>shot at the ground and it'll be fated to hit the guy 300000 miles awayCompletely balanced, glory to [SRTR]
>>96468488That’s the joke
>>96468228Honestly? Esu. Dude counters Evdokia so hard its not even funny, he could fuck with her false internal reincarnation cycle and set every soul trapped inside of her free.
>>96468510Dei is a trap option, since she has an expiration date and just creates copies of herself to continue the job.
>>96468549Not only is Esu a powerhouse, he has a great character background. Excellent companion.
How am i supposed not to feel like a jobber if i took the some 5 DP companions? They all seem like that they could low diff you.
>>96468528This is why she's the best
>>96468570Use look of chaos on them
>>96468570Get good
>>96468570>They all seem like that they could low diff you.Then we you've made a failed build, if you can't imagine yourself winning against mere companions with all the crazy gifts and op teachings given to you, then you're indeed a jobber and will never beat 0^0.
>>96463310There are no good human mage fathers in terms of gifts. I am not kidding. Check for yourself. Most of their points are low compared to mage fathers of other races and those that have decent points also have shitty gifts taking up a slot.
>>96468585Overrated gift, doesn't act instantly, even a good casterfag will just cast something before it takes effect. Any martifalfag will just unga rush you anyways.
>>96468601Why aren't you a gish?
>>96468570
>>96468569He's also prime husbando material
>>96468602>casterfag will just cast something before it takes effectDodge it, counter cast>Any martifalfag will just unga rush you anywaysDodge it, counter attack
>>96468616We should unite and kill her for good this time.
>>96468602>This 1 point gift doesn’t instantly win every fight for you, it’s overrated
>>96468602Why do assume that the one with Look of Chaos has no other gift than it, with just Esurient Walk you're guaranteed to hit.
>>96468620If you can do that already, you don't need look of chaos.
>>96468612translation for non-retards?
>>96468625Yes, because everyone acts as if it's the thing you just described.
>>96468632>I am sure to hit if I just tryokay
>>96468640Lurk 20 years before posting.
>>96468632If I'm fighting grunts, no. It's a great boon to fights that matter or just fucking with traps and machinery.
>Jdan sit on the Old Throne>shitpost his life away>get up>no time has passedIT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
>>96468644you need to be retard to post here? sorry someone point me to the non-retard thread.
>>96468631Look of time works based on how much time you're looking at the person, Ensurient Walk only slows down your eprception of time and makes you faster.But it's still a nice synergy to maximize the time you're looking and make it easier to dodge.
>>96468659>>>/r/eddit
>>96468601Ratibor (+Lost City the entrenchment), Mitrofan, and Makariy are all fine
>>96468660Look of Chaos* fuck
>>96468670Get R'tsy'd
>>96468670Nice spelling mistake, anon.Maybe someone used a particular eye gift on you?
I have only just now realized that [SRTR]'s text color matches her eyes. And [YMRD]'s matches her eyes, too. [JNPL]'s color obviously isn't brown because it would be hard to read, though.
>>96468702Technically JNPL has white in her eyes.
If JNPL is white0^0 is redYMRD is purpleSRTR is greenThen who is gold?
>>96468728>SRTR is green>Then who is gold?
>>96468728(You). Horde is the secret Ascension route
>>96468728I'd say this is the System itself, since it happens when JNPL is unavailable.
>>96468728Tankista
>>96468728Me.
Secret god and you can't tell me otherwise
>>96468728All the answers above.
OR is a very different cyoa when you’re colorblind
>>96468728>Arcane Gold is Her color...
>>96468728Mithra
>>96468772A god of destruction/restart/The End would actually fit very nicely so I am not going to tell you otherwise and help you build the temple
>>96468806YMRD already has that position
>>96468616One bros... not like this...
>>96468812No shuddup>>96468806I bet she's cute
>>96468728I thought gold might be the system itself too, but from >>96468772 it does not sound like the words of a mindless system but rather of someone who A-is aware of the goddesses conflicts and knows how they act. And B-has survived the world resets or has somehow found out this information that, as far as we know, not even Charlie knowsif it is the system then it is a lot more 'alive' than most of us thought and I have no clue what this could mean for the future
>>96468812Only says she retells the story, not actually wipe anything
>>96468728Mithra doing overtime.
new thread>>96468757>>96468757>>96468757
>>96468728
>>96468820
>>96468840The text is yellow! Which god could it possibly be this time!?
>>96468840I wonder what caused the previous resets.
>>96468851I like to imagine that at least one of them ended with a mage-cultist/true dragon ritually sacrificing the entire planet in an attempt to achieve true divinity.
>>96468840"Her plan has ended" still doesn't mean she holds the eraser
>>96468818>>96468806>>96468772The Outsider System is SRTR's daughter. An unworshiped god. Practically a program. Forced to organize and inform but can never interact with the world or the heavens. What happens if she rebels?
>>96468838>>96468880Nah
>>96468851The first tide's dragonbreaks
>>96468887But she looks just like her mom
>>964688511. Vtorusha.2. False Ascent.3. Torrential Tide.Each time they try again, making the events go smoother.
>>96468898>1. Vtorusha.>2. False Ascent.But these things actually happened and you can interact with their architects.
>>96467990Warrior prince from the Empire that's trying to fight the Ecumene and 0^0. Goal is to take over the Empire, fix things, and lead a giant coalition to attack the Ecumeme while I fight 0^0 one-on-one, preferably in the coolest and flashiest manner possible. Technically a moderate when it comes to the Ecumene's law of causality versus the old God's law of stories, but anti-Charlotte and anti-Ecumene.I've been given a badass story, and I choose to embrace it. I'm riding this train, whether it leads to glory or to death. Possibly both.>>96468156Hell yeah. I'd actually take way more companions than I could, but I feel like these two are kind of a basic starter for me.
>>96468902The first time, Vtorusha did a "better" job at deleting things and the world was almost instantly covered in Nightmare.Something similar for the False Ascent - 0^0 tried to change to many things too quickly, and the story had to be rewritten.
>>96468917Vtorusha doesn't want to delete anything, she wants the Elder Gods to step back so people write their own destinies.
>>96468728Mithra is the Uruk overlord.
>>96468898More like1. Vtorusha2. Xian vs Erginter3. False AscentThree Outsiders to rebel,Three crowns for three falling starsAs was foretold
>>96468851One went with Bob after all and everyone died of cringe
>>96468922She's a lucky upstart who deserved a wake up call.
>>96463310https://www.reddit.com/r/makeyourchoice/comments/vlav02/outer_reincarnation_cyoa/lwmwwdm>can SRTR fix Bitter Sickness?>It is likely that SRTR could fix it like this, but why would she?>she doesn't need to maximize her advantagesThe Elder Gods were in full control all this time!Ahem.Praise be [JNPL]. Praise be [SRTR]. Praise be [YMRD].Oh eternal and supreme Elder Gods, I beg for your forgiveness of my sin of doubt.Praise be [JNPL]. Praise be [SRTR]. Praise be [YMRD].Oh eternal and supreme Elder Gods, I shall enact the most Meaningful, most dramatic, most elaborate story for you to witness.
>>96468955Enact the story for yourself.The audience is irrelevant.
It is obviously (you) since those letters only appear after you are in the world.
>>96469022>Piss Yellow is Her colour, for the unending amount of filth she spread across the thread.
>>96463310>Icon of Icons:Ikona Ikon, Universalnaya Pravda, Krov' ot Krovi, Ave Imperator!: Icon of Icons, Universal Truth, Blood from Blood, Hail Emperor!>Quests:Humilitas: HumilityVanitas: VanityTemperantia: TemperanceJustitia: JusticePatientia: PatienceFundamentum: FoundationE Nomine: In the Name OfAnything else relevant to translate?
>>96469036>her
>>96469048The blurb from the Second War of Heaven and Earth.
>>96469052All Elder Gods are female. Sorry lady, get used to it if you ever want to ascend.
>>96469060I knew my AGP addiction was getting me closer to god!
>>96469060Well they look female but we haven't seen under their skirts
>>96469071>AGPWhat?
>>96463310>>96469048>>96469056https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2022/22002-n5170-multiocular-o.pdfcepaфими мнoгoчитїй: many-eyed seraphimMultiocular O is REAL.
>>96469060Those are just my wives waiting for me to take off my mask.
>>96469096>He didn't pick mommy SRTR or find YRMD on the moon. Ngmi.
>>96469096>we haven't seen under their skirtsI did
>>96468980That sounds terribly solipsistic.
>>96469103Anon is saying it makes him horny to fantasize about being a girl.
>>96469205Ah, that word. It wasn't anywhere close to in my mind, my bad
>>96468803>MithraInteresting suggestion. Does Mithra actually do anything in Outer Reincarnation, though?
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>>96469588He's off in the aether building up his own world now that he's a god.
What happens if you pick pixie-giant hybrid with JNPL?
>>96469596Gotcha
>>96469060>All Elder Gods are female. Sorry lady, get used to it if you ever want to ascend.Since they've all lived countless lives, wouldn't they be/have been both?
>>96469631Yes, but we're talking about their true ultimate final form as gods. It's female.
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Was curious about the 2DP Bonus for matching death slots so I charted them out. Palitiner is by far the best due to sibling maxing.May check out the Elven Languages next.
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>>96469637Mithra is still referred to with male pronouns when talking about him post-ascension.
>>96469683That's just because nobody has seen her since, poor girl.
>>96469689This is starting to sound like a /trash cyoa. :)
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>>96469596Are there any other gods/goddesses wandering around?
>>96469742Just the four as far as we know.
>>96469748Well, five, counting Mithra
>>96469770Mithra is the fourth. Charlotte is not a real god, no matter what she pretends at.
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>>96469742Equivalent to elder gods, none that we're aware. There are plenty of cults worshipping worldly gods, though -- the Exarchate worships outsiders, the DKMDR worshipped Pantorai, Majin traditionally worshipped the Demon Lords, and there's the mage-cults of Mamet as well.
>>96469786Gotcha
>>96467577>The obvious analogy, then, is a member of the audience who, for whatever reason, cannot move on after a story ends. They keep re-reading the same book over and over again until they no longer find joy in it, in vain hope that it can return them to a past that is past. From the point of view of the world, the empyrean becomes trapped in a dream of their own making, no longer able to interact with the world but also unable to leave it and begin anew.Rather depressing
Hitting a thousand posts, multiple threads in a row? Didn't think I'd see it.
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>>96469929This is the power of Tankista.
>>96469973>This is the power of Tankista.Do you think it would translate to a novel or short story format? He's got some interesting worlds, that I'd like to see "in motion".
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>>96469990Yes. A lot of his companions can be written as protagonists, and his locations tends to have enough meat to warrant a short story or two.Magocratic Convention, Times and Troubles, Outer Reincarnation - they can all be adapted.
>>96470032What do you think, Tankista? Any chance of you taking a stab at writing a story, one of these days?
>>96469990I'd read a Blood Mage or OR story if one ever appeared on spacebattles or wherever. Best part of nsfw CYOAs is that people sometimes write fic for them.
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Has Tankista said anything about builds or feedback here? Or is it just reddit?
>>96470204He mostly answers questions there instead of here, though I don't think he says anything about builds at all. There are so many more questions on reddit because instead of having discussion between redditors they each individually post a list of questions for Tankista.
>>96470212I don't understand how he can find engaging that enjoyable. Re-answering the same questions is irritating to me and lacking any interactivity between players (tide or not) seems to take away a lot of the emergent fun of the CYOA.
Take Thaumiel and make guyver-like bioarmor for your tiders.
>>96470285But Brastat can make power armor for everyone.
>>96470232Most questions are surprisingly novel, I presume he prefers answering in reddit since the answers are far more easy to search for thus reducing the number of repeat questions and making it easier for future viewers to find these discussions, few people are going to try to dig up old 4chan archives to find a Tankista q&a
>>96463482I'm fine with OR doing it's thing after Luminary troon slop shitted up the thread for ages.
>>96468838>>96468880I like this theory
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>>96468728The hair color of the Citrine race.
>>96467461>Autoantecedence Magician's Hand gives two spells per hand for four slots total, plus makes it so that you can accumulate these four unspent spells and store them like Multiocular O does eyes instead of them dispersing.They are, it's just not clear whether you can decide what kind of upgrade you get or if it's random. Personally I'm just aiming to jailbreak Spirit Tap so thay I can target myself with it, not even interested in it giving non-racial Inborn Gifts.
>>96470568>Personally I'm just aiming to jailbreak Spirit Tap so thay I can target myself with it, not even interested in it giving non-racial Inborn Gifts.You can do it but it can't make you a Majin/Drakonid
>>96470572Not aiming for hybrids, but Spirit Tap x2 already gives you the option to turn people Majin with control over the letter and spell it manifests, if you remove the target self ban I don't see why it couldn't allow you to try out new letters for yourself.
>>96470579You would need a deep understanding to do so. So either knowing the meaning of the spell the majin is made with or knowing about Drakonids in depth. Majin are probably easier due to Daemonhunt knowledge.
>>96470584Agree with that, counting on untimeskipped mentor Dei and Maou to start with some broad daemonhost and Majin Letter knowledge from birth, Eirina as a mentor and contact for that daemonhunt knowledge, Jisilbert for deeper perspective on the Godscript in general, and Eirina for the potential of adding numbers for extra esoteric abilities. Was pondering over Kashtanka, but I neither have the points nor do I think she'd help much with racial Inborn Gifts anyway.
Protip for daemonhost Outsiders for a maneuveur I didn't manage to fit in myself: get mentor Tenyota and Omega as a companion, Omega has the same Inborn Gifts as Charlie so Icon of Icons, convince her to turn it into a discipline and you now have the broken combo of daemonhost and Icon of Icons-lite to turn the world into your oyster.
>>96470621Tankista said on reddit that it is impossible due to Icon of Icons being connected with the Midday Point and Majin with the Midnight Point.
>>96463310Can you use Malice to choose characters for Old Northern and Palatiner's Bilingual bonuses? The fact that it's "of any type" also implies that you could theoretically consider Gunter, Blazhko, and Dirk picks as counted by the language bonus as well.
>>96470628Thanks for telling me, never knew that the Majin were related the Midnight Point (or Icons of Icons with the midday one).
>>96470655Agree for Gunter and Blazhko, not so much for Dirk since you're not actually interfering with their fates, it's just Dirk copying their knowledge.
>>96470664It was mostly an on the spot justification for why Icon of Icons can't work with Majin when someone asked, since Daemonhost could just while out an endless number of supporters to make them unstoppable.It still makes sense but it's more of a balance issue than anything.
What Daemonhost templates do you get from Aat and Fot? I assume Dei's is Longest March. Would you count as Xian if it's the Set template?
I am expanding the Tide table right now and I have a dilemma. Should we count Gewrgin for intersection? It is just a book after all, not a proper mentor.
>>96470755He could definitely have multiple copies of a book.
>>96470755There is only one book. Unless someone is reading out loud to the outsider book club I wouldn't allow it.
>>96463310https://rentry.co/3amh4xgwI've updated my build to feature Kilyn of the Orthrung because she has no death slot and wouldn't overlap. Also includes more gifts and other minor changes.Sorry if I miscounted anything. I've left the cost/gain of each option and the total after it, so it is easier to check.
>>96470755>I am expanding the Tide table right nowBesides the Gewrgin thing how are you handling Dirk Yesod? The previous anon making the tide table assumed the two mentors whose knowledge Dirk would teach you count for intersections but there were anons who disagreed.>Should we count Gewrgin for intersection?The cyoa explicitly says there's only one copy of Gewrgin's book in existence so it should count for intersection.
>>96470815I don't count him, but I also don't check previously established intersections, too much work.As for the book, it could, in theory, be fated to change hands or be copied if both Outsiders agree.
>>96470755I don’t think blahzko mentors should count as being picked. It doesn’t have the same effect on fate as another outside having themI think we can fudge it to not count gewrgin, may as well
>Autoantecedence Mitigating Grip>No longer needs contact, scales strength to the heaviest grippable object in the vicinityIs this fair?
>>96470910How big's the range?
>>96470919Let’s say a 200 meter radius
Every martial gift combined is weaker than Spiritual Feel. Martials will never be anything but a joke.
>>96470910I would say you still need to touch something to pick up, otherwise you can bullshit things like punching craters into the ground since the biggest thing around is castle.
>>96470927Your wife Paxxia is a supreme martial fighter and no amount of magic saved you from being overpowered and raped by her.
>>96470937Touching something doesn’t mean you’re gripping it to qualify for Mitigating Grip. A castle is too large to move without falling apart if you grabbed it at one point. I wasn’t planning on it removing other restrictions.
>>96470940Nothing says I'm the one getting raped. Maybe at 13 years old, I invaded the DKMDR and rape Paxxia. Ever thought about that?
>>96470910The ground?Your opponents?
>>96470769I like the detail
>>96470927>Mathematicians can shrug of spells and turn casterfags 'powers' into a character sheetLook at the nerds thinking they can change the world.
Who does Du'um's power of killing people with unfilled death slots even apply to?
>>96470976Plebs?Everyone you didn’t pick?
>>96470889it definitely has a similar fate effect as all Blazhkos mentors get death slots, would cause death slot overlap issues
>>96470976She could effectively kill anyone that isn't an Undead or Empyrean given time.
>>96470976Everyone in the world that you or a previous Outsider didn’t pick who isn’t undead, Empyrean or a warmachina
>>96470987Might not work on pixies either
>>96470985I also don’t think they get death slotsDid tankista say something to that effect?
>>96470979>>96470987That would be incredibly broken what's stopping her from world domination..Any special cases in the "no apparent deathslots" characters you do end up choosing?>>96470986Begs the question whether a fulfilled & averted destiny empties the slot or not. If that's the case you are complete fodder to 0^0 if you circumvent your letter. I guess this is the correct reading since Keter and Rhucuphre exemplify it
>>96470991And there are some weird exceptions like Darina. Probably not many of those.
>>96470993What's the point of Malice even when she exists
>>96470996To outplay Charlie and kill specific characters you want to kill for your plans.
>>96470993Anyone who has interacted with srtr has a filled deathslot and the gods can fill them at will
>>96470993It takes her a long time to do it. She has to run through a long list of possible deaths one by one. And she’s a 4 point companion, they’re supposed to be very powerful.
>>96471001Can't you just do it Du'un, reusable even?>>96471003And I'd guess with diminished meaning it takes longer and longer as it turns into a waiting game that needs to be filled with story action. Makes sense
>>96470993>what's stopping her from world domination..It's said that the magic takes time and will vary between people and scenarios and she has to be close to do it. It's just a guarantee that in an engagement you can potentially kill anyone you want given enough time.
>>96470996To kill people you don't like, or turn people into undead.
>>96463310Here is a new version of the Tide. Special commendation to Escher, who somehow managed to dodge 13 Outsiders trying to settle on the same world.I've changed Eirina for Upunth in my own build to not join the Hermitage of St. Eirina at the right corner, so now world Zelo consists of an Eldar wanderer trying to rebuild Orthrung, a zelous demonhunter hyperfocusing on her job and a Pandaemonium mole who is taking over Old Throne.Charlie: "Am I a joke to you?"
>>96471028>turn people into undeadEnter Evdokia
>>96465746>What are some other inborn gifts already turned into mentor knowledge?Boiling Blood is learnable from Xet even if you don't pick it.
>>96471032Good effort. I will need to make a different build anyway, too many mistakes and misreads in the 30 hour grind it resulted from, so I will escape hermitage later.
>>96471038>Jobs to a 1 point gift
>>96471032Didn't you say you weren't treating Dirk as 3 overlaps?
>>96471032World Zhivete is not surviving.>Manusya deleted himself and now seeks to corrode everything else>Sevastian is trying to replace himself with himself via tree bullshit>Silk Matron is a Humilitas teacher first and foremost
>>96471057I am not. I am still treating Dirk himself as an overlap and everything done before me was left as is.
>>96471032Neither Dreamer nor Book of the Damned actually took Eirina. I think everything else is right?
>>96471032So, which have a chance of not dying and at least hampering the Ecumene?
>>96471032So you went with not treating Gewrgin's book as a real overlap?
>>96471068Wiil it last longer than Zemlya and its swiss chess dimension?
>>96471078Yes, though I noted it in the picture in case the players don't agree.
>>96471032Which mentor is responsible for the most overlaps?
>>96471032Fir Dahort is a toybox build
>>96471094Eirina and by far. An honorable second place goes to Leimeie. Pukluxun is also way more popular than I expected, though it is obvious in retrospective. A lot of people want their own Mage-Cult to follow an example of True Jobbers.
>>96471032I hate Hermit tide so much
>>96471075Az kills 0^0 in 20 years or less
>>96471075Glagoli has three competent ones that don't seem like they would fight. Dis Anti Empyrean gish that is mindmaxxing and should be able to come up with new ways to handle them along with having the OP companionsStygia Dragon/Demon Lord that snowballs hard and is hardspecced into magic, thoroughbreeding too for eugenics.Hexland New Nation Ruler with a Savmak+ with friends edition build that took Icon of Icons
>>96471126Whats your build, assuming you are a hermit. I will try to harmonize
Eirina teaches you scissors when normal magic is rock and all of 0^0’s mages are paper. It would be weird if she weren’t the most popular mentor.
>>96471032I love my tide. Even if half of them are retards who'll just make things worse.
>>96471139No, my build isn't there. I just hate(but not really) half of the builds there
warmachina mounting is underratedit's hard to get for a reason
>>96471032Could you cap some of the worlds so Az doesn't hog a good chunk of builds like its doing now, maybe 6 or 8 as a cap so some of the lower down worlds can get something.
>>96471154So you hate two builds?
>>96471155if warmachina were good the old throne would still rule the world
>>96471165Trust in the Brastat revival bro.
>>96471165They would if they knew how to repair their warmachina or make new ones. But they are brainlets.Fortunately for you, there is a companion that can do both of those things.
>>96471080>swiss chessHeh. But I suppose both stories would be quite different. Zemlya is all about dimensional collapse, while Zhivete has a quiet rapture.
>>96471163It's more that I dislike them and would probably try to kill them if we were in the same tide.
>>96471113Fixed. Surprisingly, it didn't free anyone from the hermitage.
>>96471075An anon here >>96465088 did a solid analysis of what will happen in Az, Buki and Vedi, all 3 worlds did well against the Ecumene (too well in the case of Az).Glagoli is stacked with The Book of the Damned (iirc the build with the strongest powerlevel rating in the build ratings) and Foolish Dreamer. Those two will beat 0^0 for certain.Zelo despite the world name is all abount patientia and fundamentum (Orthrung for Liriel, independent Daemonhunt country for Led, Pandaemonium dream bs for Liadan) not to mention Liriel and Led took Vedi so the story will be delayed for the 12th to decide who wins the three way battle between E Nomine loyalists, 0^0 and Pandaemonium.
>>96471161RidiculousWhat ever would the point of a limited tide be?Just home brew people who would fit into your build and accept that it’s non-canon
>>96471181None of the Glagoli builds took Eirina
>>96471032Would my build fit anywhere? And thank you for sorting them out.>>96464199
>>96471177 (me)I see that I'm talking about Zyneheart and his Earth chunk idea, not One-Woman Band. Sorry for the mix-up.
>>96471187First come first serve is lame thougheverbeit
>>96471187It is selfish yeah, but it would also reduce the number of one person tides which is currently an issue.
>>96471154Which ones you don't hate, out of curiosity?>>96471186Can anyone rate the new builds? Would be interesting to compare.>>96471189Yes, but Eirina overlap was listed in the previous version so I rolled with it. Guess I should fix it.>>96471191Let me check.
>>96471161Please don't do this, it can't actually fix the overlap issue.
Reminder not to be a human in OR.
>>96471161Build faster next time.
>>96471230But the Extra Companion slots to Sriggan min max...
>>96471226Ok, I'll trust you on that. Really don't want to dig through everything again.
>>96471207Those people are stuck in one person tides because they took too many characters and/or characters that are too popular. The only solution for them is to fix their own builds.
>>96471032>AzEasily clears charlie, then the planet undergoes total ecological collapse due to Jorm and everyone flees to the moon paradise.>BukiNo obviously destructive builds and at least a few of them are actually dealing with the problem at hand, probably clear charlie then life is good.>VediThe inquisitor goes around and causes race riots and shit on doria rendering it pretty much useless, mamet becomes the main bastion against 0^0.>GlagoliLots of big plans here so its fully possible someone blows the planet up before they can really get anywhere.>DobroNobody deals with charlie but they cause so much chaos with weird bullshit that she probably stalls for another hundred years.
>>96471238Basically don't take Blazhko or Gunter.They fuck over Outer Tide viability unless you give them shitters like Wulfwynn.
>>96471235refer to >>96464342
>>96471161Make a good build yourself. As long as you don't go along with 2+ people trying to fuck you up AND no one helping you at all, it should be fine.
>>96471230JNPL (Elven, Eldar)Few siblingsThoroughbreeding
>>96471230Humans are the main characters of the setting.
>>96471258Until I arrived.
It’s sad that people typically take oculus of human goodness to better commit human badness.
>>96471220I will eventually rate the new ones but I would like to see another perspective or a rating on different characteristics
>>96471250Esu, Gunter, Blazhko, Evdokia, Omega, Suuq, Duum, Polkan, Alezandre, and Sonya will beat you for this insult.
>>96471226It can reduce the number of one person tides, there are several builds designed for compatibility i.e. Aurum, who get auto sorted into Az which defeats their purpose>>96471238>>96471252I'm not worried about my own build. I'm in a fairly early world I'm just making a genuine suggestion for a potential improvement.
>>96471269If you can't solo, remake your build.
>>96471262It relies on them looking you in the eye, not you looking at them.Also, "harm" is such a broad word. If you truly believe in the cycle of reincarnation, a good death does not harm you. It's a good thing.
>>96471285>"You're going to ascend so much faster!" he says as he rapes a Muddish captive
>>96471293Hey, have you seen how many people are picking Phershepa. Muddish rape is a valuable resource to the Outsider system.
>>96471293Just as JNPL intended.
>>96471293Suffering builds character
>all these retards trying to avoid confrontationsnilmatrix + bukior you job
>>96471293Yes.
Oculus of Human Goodness is one of the best eye gifts. Although, most of them are excellent.
>>96471181>image is a screenshot with all the problems of a screenshotCopy the table. Yes, click and drag your cursor across. Open microsoft paint. Paste. Click crop button. Save as png.
>>96471191Congratulations, now there are two of you on Zemlya and One-Woman Band is not so lonely!
>>96471325Nah, i'd All-Glimpse
>>96471238Idiotic. If I started with my build and took every compatible one I would naturally be in a full world every other build bounces off of as well
>>96471300Why would anyone rape the Muddish though. You have the standard beautiful northerners, the golden southlanders and the Qlipoth red haired Tumen. And with all that you decide to rape literal mud people.At least Vtorusha was cute.
>>96471325It's not good. Twice as expensive as eye of chaos, and they have to look you in the eyes. Which means all glimpse users are immune, as well as anyone who doesn't/can't see your eyes, or does not make direct eye contact.
What is the worst eye choice?
>>96471338They're NPCs while we're real. Choose wisely.
>>96471334>>96471327
>>96471345Grim Outlook.
>>96471340Human Goodness is instant and lingers, Chaos takes time to apply. If you surprise someone they turn around and look in your eyes. Your enemies don’t have All-Glimpse, I don’t care about some hypothetical pvp scenario
>>96471351I mean that the premise of "dont pick the popular ones" doesnt work for assigning blame. If I use my build as the reference point obviously I would find compatibilities someone who would work the other way around wouldnt. I don't care though so this is mostly an empty call-out
>>96471352As you command, my Liege!
>>96471334Nice.
>>96471334Rhucuphre?
>>96471360Wouldn't work at musket range (which is what most of the ecumene use).Doesn't work on warmachina either.
>>96471370Come on anon, everyone and their mother have musket immunity.
Changeling x Majin with Icon of Icons on the elven part would go hard
>>96471340It's crazy good if you take it twice. Basically only blind people or people with all-glimpse can attack you. And you can fucking murder an army alone.
>>96471370How many warmachina do you think 0^0 has?
>>96471334Horrific Undead Nightmare Spider/Dragon monster that is potentially worse for the world than 0^0 if her nightmare infused brood plan takes off, Ouk'd Rhucuphre for good measure.Happy go lucky Demon Lord of Music Zemlya is fucked. Don't go there.
>>96471367Band doesn't have her: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498So nothing stops them from ̶w̶r̶e̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ improving the world together.
>>96471379She has plenty of battleships and other such mechanical contraptions.>>96471378Again, they have to look you in the eye. If they don't/can't see your eyes, then it doesn't take effect. In a pitched battle they are probably not looking at your eyes.
>>96471334Rank the worst builds that could appear on your Tide
all-glimpse gives you minor precognition btw
>>96471394No. They have to look at you. At any part of you at any range. And it stays until they very far from you. They only need too look you in the eye if you have one eye gift.
>>96466399>>96468494>>96471205>thobeit>thougheverbeitIs that meme or what is it supposed to be?
>>96471402Ecumene simp build that takes all the characters I was leaving others and kills the good plot lines.
>>96471385Guess its assigned letter really has Meaning
>>96471394Another guy criticizing a gift he hasn’t read. Grim.
>>96471402Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot (you are now downgraded to side character)
>>96470769The image is wrong about the youth section, I've updated it in the rentry.
>>96471411I'd say lurk moar but it really is a specific strain of imageboard culture I dont wish on anyone. Yes it's a fairly common meme people here use ironically by appropriating in an ingroup signal/shibboleth of a particular despicable subculture to lend that despicable touch to an otherwise innocent message.
>>96471412Yeah, at first I wanted him in my world as a villian, but he took so many characters it is almost impossible to fit him anywhere.
>>96471375>Almost no one took bulletproof skinSure anon, just hope your expensive eye gift isn't blown away by a random anti magic Ecumene bullet.
>>96471430>Almost no one took bulletproof skinIs that really true? I thought it was a no-brainer for almost any combat build>blown away by a random anti magic Ecumene bullet.Is that actually a thing?
>>96471430Nah I'd aim dodge
>>96471430I'd rather bring my Warmachina everywhere than spend 4 points on that.And an Eye that lets you never appear on the battlefield yourself is also 4 points.
>take all-glimpse>see something you shouldn't>get dirk'dwhat's your plan to prevent this
>>96471362Goodbye empty white.
>>96471430My magic barriers are powered by the finest numerology.
>>96471437Bullet proof skin is unnecessary. You should have enough durability to tank bullets or evasion to dodge them. If you don't, you suck.
>>96471402In no particular order:Charlotte and Rhuchupre simps (Vtorusha fags and alternative Libertas fags are based though)Humilitas NEETs who take all the good characters but expect you to do all the work for them.Qarg and The Inquisitor are pretty terrible to be stuck with, they pretty much exist to shit up Doria like mid bosses.The Book of the Damned. He will solve 0^0 for you but then you're stuck dealing with him.Manusya and Thaumadarak for obvious reasons
>>96471443I would simply persevere through Willpower
>>96463310>>96470655Horrific build made out of exploits. What's a Meaning? Can you eat it?>Name Valar>Patron0^0>Sex Female >ReincarnationAdoption x 2, Brothers x 3, Sister x 1, Dice Fudge x 1, Extra Mentor x 2, Malice x 12, Burn The Future x 27, Outer Tide [-58 D, +15 A]>Parent Ratibor, Thonodreth (Half-Ascended Thaumiel, Aat) [-5 D]>Race Muddish [+3 A, +1 Mentor Slot]>LanguagesPalatiner, Old Northern, Quietened Everything Else Besides Godscript [+22 D]>LocationSierogrivian Basin [+1 D, +1 A]>GiftsEthereal Beauty, Bestial Strength, Unburnt Hide, Boiling Blood, Bulletproof Skin, Thoroughbreeding, Second Wind, Last Breath, Bitter Sickness, Misalliance (Blazing Seal, Sight Beyond Sight, Dead Sprint), Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Caster Intuition, Martial Instinct, Noble Inclination, Icon Of Icons, Autoantecedence, Mitigating Grip x 2, Entrenchment x 3, All-Glimpse [-40 A]>MentorKilyn (Tutored in Old Nothern), Spako (Tutored in Old Northern), Rhucuphre (Tutored in Old Northern) [-13 D]>Companion Gunter (Inga Yesod, Dobrava, Nilmatrix), Blazhko (0^0, Dirk Yesod (Alisa, Lukag), Herleva, Seo, Keter) [-2 D] >Encounters Never Alone (Rhucuphre), Ready, Aim, Fire (Blazhko), By Design (Gunter), Remember the Demon (Spako), A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll, A Score Of Orcs, A Band of Ogres [+1 D, +1 A]>Dobrava Encounters A Calm And A Storm, Let The Purgation Begin, Shadow Of God
>>96471443Dirk was a kind and innocent young man.
>>96471443Look at the things I shouldn't while I am still guaranteed by fate to not get Dirked, learn how to avoid it with practice.
>>96471437No, a lot of people call it really expensive and worthless since they think they can replicate it with common magic, when only Zlata super specific training seems to do it.The mathematicians specialize in fighting against and countering magic. They can certainly get rid of buffs if they try enough.
>>96471461>Deaths [+34 D]Valar (A): Vedi YeeMenesis (A): ZeloThelas (A): Iotated OukKaryon (A): Lesser YusNolos (A): IzheRatibor (C): OnThonodreth (A): YestThaumiel (A): Dobro KilynSpakoRhucuphre (C): Shta ZhiveteGunterDobrava (A): KakoNilmatrixBlazhko: Yat Zemlya0^0Dirk (B): QoppaHerlevaSeo (C): Iotated Greater YusKeter (A): Greater Yus>(Malice Deaths)Mihrdat (A): LyudiCaeda (A): MysleteSavmak (A): Iotated AzKalliopa (A): Iotated Lesser YusOpoia (A): Her'vFeowdra (C): TsyNatalja (C): ShaGwriel (C): SlovoAlezandre (C): Glagoli Makariy (C): R'TsyIraida (C): TverdoKapitweina (C): Iotated Yest>Youth Parental Support, Pandaemonium, Daemonhunt, Plotting>QuestPatientia
>>96471443That's an issue with Starsight, not All Glimpse.He read what he shouldn't and it morphed his eyes.
>>96471473So, this build contains Aat Trick, the Keter Trick, the Dobrava-Nil Trick, and the Old Northern-Palatiner-Salian Trick. Aat Trick is picking Aat from Adoption. Nearly all Gifts are taken, and there are four other Siblings with the same amount of Gifts (and should count for Palatiner because they get taught Palatiner by Thaumiel). For Mentors, I just picked the two with no death slots to save my A-slot and C-slot letters and Rhucuphre because this build is very Pandaemonium-adjacent due to Malice. For companions, Blazhko is setup as a singing Causality lich and Gunter-Dobrava to setup Empyrean-Undead Nilmatrix. He's also Everlasting By Design because he doesn't actually have any gold 'No Encounters' and I need more A-slot letters. Dobrava is also set to find the cure for Bitter Sickness and prevent the Exarchate's Civil War. Deaths, I practically just filled in the slots as I see fit, notably a setup for revived Savmak before Valar becomes an adult.Actual plans, you have the trinary of Thaumiel, Aat, and Rhucuphre handling five superpowered kids. I learn nightmare genesis from Thaumiel, sneakmurderkill from Rhucuphre, and miscellaneous stuff from Aat. Early years are spent helping the three handle the four. Then, I sign up to Daemonhunt for their education, and while there, plot and do Pandaemonic stuff to exploit the Malice'd deaths. Along the way, Kilyn gets carried forever for my Mitigating Grip grind and also to teach me puns. Spako appears out of nowhere at some point for plotting help. Adult, Blazhko and Gunter enters the story from Ready, Aim, Fire. Guessing that the story is going to revolve around the Twilight Empire fighting Ecumene militarily, with Valar roped in. Karyon is probably set up to replace Thaumiel as ruler of Dis. Menesis, Thelas, and Nolos could go anywhere, and I'm hoping atleast one of them becomes a stupid bard just to help spread the gifts around. I'm probably going to push one of them into joining me in the war.
>>96471430>bulletproof skinIt’s worthless because it activates too late. Basically all your defenses must be penetrated for it to activate. This makes it complete garbage unless you’re focused on being a warrior who uses his body to block attacks. It also eventually becomes worthless against competent mages as they will figure out the speed limit, so it’s shit for long battles.If it was a field that affects everything 2 meters away from your body with the option of tuning it to not affect certain things (like your own attacks), it would be good.
>>96471489Even if they figure out the speed limit, it's still a huge limitation on the kind of attacks they can use.
>>96471489I really like it on my build due to becoming a huge target with Dragon Transformation. It's also just something that is nice to know your children have.
>>96471483>Aat Trick is picking Aat from AdoptionWhat does this even do? It is just a curse.
>>96471461You've just barely dodged becoming my breeding mare
>>96471498Anon exploited his brain too.
>>96471459>Humilitas NEETs who take all the good characters but expect you to do all the work for them.Not that much of a problem, because if you took some good characters yourself, they won't be in your tide, but understandable>Qarg and The InquisitorQaarg just wants to fight around, not shit things up, shouldn't even be too hard to recruit him if you tell him to fight stuff in dungeons and what not.The Inquisitor indeed will either succeed and shit up Doria or die to a bunch of Liches or Majin spellcasters, or other Outsiders.>The Book of the DamnedWhat does this guy even wanna do after dealing with 0^0?
>>96471499If other worlds are like this, I now appreciate our quite autistic haven on Zelo even more.
>>96471498He becomes Valar's adoptive parent. There has to be a reason as to why he's still allowed to be targeted by it specifically, like he can't be targeted by Dice Fudge (understandable) and True Love (huh?), but not Adoption.
aat (fierted) is the original demon lord, not the outsiderso... enjoy?
>>96471489You simply copy pasted the response from the other day and it is just as stupid.Again, if you are never in a position to get shot it is fine, but if you really think you can ignore bullets just because you say so then I can only agree that it is your story so you can consider whatever premises you want.
>>96471516He's not just a demon lord. He hates elves. HATES them. He's a living genocide.
>>96470992yeah he said that both Blazhko and Gunter companions/mentors need death slots
>>96471525based professional hater
>>96471516I did say that he's only useful for miscellaneous stuff. Thankfully not a Majin so he can't do the command stuff.
>>96471508>Not that much of a problem, because if you took some good characters yourself, they won't be in your tide, but understandableEvery single one of us is destined to be alone with some quantum reddit humilitas shitter picking every character you didn't and blocking your real tidebros from being in the same world. Outer Tide is a trap option
>>96471525BASED
What happens if you take all glimpse and multiocular O, then steal other people's eyes later on?
She didn't need Bulletproof Skin, you are NOT worse than KEKter to die to bullets, are you anon?
>>96471540Not compatible
>>96471508>What does this guy even wanna do after dealing with 0^0?Good question. He does seem chill, though his method for attaining power is pretty much BBEG bait, I'd be shocked if he doesn't lose his humanity and/or go insane from the process.
>>96471540As per Tankista, nothing. Your O gets overwritten at character creation, you've lost your points.
>>96471540>steal other people's eyesHow? Just gouge them out and put it in your socket with magic?
>>96471553Multiocular O is a mark, not an eye gift.
>>96471553b-but my exploit
>>96471508>What does this guy even wanna do after dealing with 0^0?Enjoy the Humilatas life for a couple years, keep the 12th from doing something dumb, establish an eternal Majin empire so they'll always have a home to return to, then either Yee myself or wait to see how long it takes for something to kill me. Maybe 1v3 the Elder Gods, partially as a suicide attempt, and to see how well I do.
Goodbye, sweet thread
Page 11....it all makes sense....
>>96471548>no wisdomInteresting.
>>96471508>No, don't kill the wholesome and helpful parasitic undead who are perhaps the main reason the world is in this state today, you will definitely fuck up the continent!Skelly hands typed this. Death to all undead and demon shitters.
rip thread
>>96471550>I'd be shocked if he doesn't lose his humanity and/or go insane from the processThat's a problem for the guys in HIS tide. >>96471564>page 12 never comes>it's either ARCHIVED or a new thread being retoldWhat did they mean by this?
>>96471571>undead who are perhaps the main reason the world is in this state todayno
>>96471571Nice try, Inquisitor, you are still dying the moment you find any Majin/Undead mentor with bullshit powers.
>>96471578>What did they mean by this?(You) are destined to fuck up the world so bad YMRD rerolls. You go champ, SRTR is proud!
>>96471565The only 3 outsiders to not get Wisdom were Savmak, Charlie and Keter, and it shows
>>96471571>it's actually LE UNDEADTrying to redirect our focus? Embarrassing Charlie.
>>96471583One day he WILL get out of that sword.
>>96471582Tidebros... We were the problem all along?
>>96471588Always has been/At last you truly see
>>96471571The biggest problem aside from Ecumene is the Nightmare, right? That has to do with neither undead nor demons
>>96471583You DID take Wisdom for your own build right anons?
>>96471533I rolled good, seems like a skill issue bro. Have you tried praying to [YMRD]?
>>9647158812th solos the eleventh tide.
>>96471583you can train for wisdom, it's wasted points
>>96471593>nor demonsIncorrect
>>96471600t. unwise (died 5 years after adulthood)
>>96471600i'm surprised you can post on 4chan from inside a sword Savmak
>>96471598The insular analysis of 4chan builds doesnt account for builds people made and never posted, and for r*ddit, and imgchest only browsers
>>96471604I need power, not wisdom.
>>96471599Post her build next thread if she's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO strong.
>>96471599In a fight?
>>96471599wrong
>>96471614
>>96471611And you will have neither once you die early.Your only hope is go get pegged in the toybox.
Yeah, Tides probably need to be capped so the rest of the worlds aren't so lonely. Which cap is optimal, anons?
>>96471619>y-you will die earlyNone of those three outsiders even died early. They were just too retarded to train wisdom on their own.
>>96471610Reddit builds are all good goyim who'll help you save the world if ask them nicely though. And men wanting to be women.
>>96471580>Inga Yesod notes where Charlie's key to false ascensionIt's always the Tumen apologists.
>>96464199Should I drop Blazhko for Savmak so I can fit into a more populated world? Savmak sword can also become a strong undead so it fits my theming better than generic teacher Blazhko.
>>96471600>you can train for wisdom, it's wasted points
>>96471621My money on 5. Enough for plurality in arguments, impair number to avoid stalemates, enough people to handle multiples plotlines yet not too much so you lose track.
>>96471632notes on empyreans
>>96471621I would do it like this:1. Roll a first build2. Roll another, compare against existing in order 3. If compatible, add. Otherwise new world4. Worlds are always supposed to be at the same amount. So any world with less than another gets pulled ahead for comparison, rather than the first world always getting first choice-> Ideally, all worlds tend towards the same amount without a fixed cap
>>96471628Go back into the sword
>>96471621A more functional cap would be on the number of contacts you take, but that would drastically alter people's builds
>>96471600Nice to see you can still post from Chervonolin, Erginter.
>>96471633Stay in your lane.
>>96471604It's fine if you picked good parents who gave you the right lessons like Ratha or Murka.You don't have a troubled childhood because of your point autism, right?
>>96471641It's a bit late for that now, world Az at least is definitely a thing and shouldn't be broken apart.
>>96471629>And men wanting to be women.The allure of kuudere is strong.
>>96471633>it fits my theming betterYes, this is all the reason you need
>>96471637>wisdom taker statusOne: DEADVtorusha: UBER HELL NIGHTMARE MINDBREAK X100000000Aat: DEADYphont: DEADTuzik: DEADSarmat: DEAD>wisdom skipper statusSavmak: Sworded (for now)Erginter: DEADCharlie: False GodKeter: Alive
>>96471650Unwise children won't listen to their parents advice, and will grow to be unwise adults.
>>96471621>there is a chance to end up with ManusyaFuck off we're full.
>>96471621I don't think we need a cap. 5 seems to be the natural cap for a world. Az only has 9 builds because 4/9 of their builds are unnotable one builds with barely any mentors or companions.
>>96471600How do you even train wisdom? Get mentored by Rekt into making a bunch of mistakes?
>>96471654Yeah, it's a hypothetical. I am too late and ielziasehing captain hindsight. But it's a good algorithm no?
>>96471658Now compare for how many years they managed to stay alive in a world where the gods tink death is a good thing.
>>96471664It usually comes on its own with experience and old age.Ergo if you experience many things you will become more wise. Failure is one part of that.
>>96471655Keter, stop daydreaming about your ex and tell me how not to die to Buki.
>>96471621If we are going for fewer worlds let’s just set the count at 6 and go for the fewest overlapsSo if you were overlapping with all 6 we would send you to the world you had fewest overlaps with and increment their overlap counter by one
>>96471658Anon that's just older outsider vs newer outsiders
>>96471672Only people who don’t know old people believe this
>>96471658Anon that's just good outsiders vs bad outsiders.
>>96471658>Keter: Alive>Why are we still here… Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg, and my arm… and even my fingers… The body I’ve lost… and the comrades I’ve lost… It won’t stop hurting, like they’re all still there… You feel it too, don’t you?
>>96471621There shouldn't be one. If anything, anons should specify if they want to be in a different tide they don't overlap with.
>>96471672>Aktchually all those boomers who can't grasp inflation are super wiseWisdomlets ACTUALLY believe in this
>>96471682That's just what it says on the gift text.
>>96471658Sarmat really did cause the quality of outsiders to plummet...
put keter in any scenario without 0^0 and she does pretty wellstop downplaying her
>>96471672Wisdom is a lot less linear than something like Strength of even Intelligence. A lot of what may appear as Wisdom is just jadedness, which isn't a good thing at all.Right after graduating, people are often enthusiastic about doing good work in their first real workplace, but as years pass they adapt to the environment where results barely matter. You can say they learned new things about how the world works, and adapted to it, and that's Wisdom. But they're lesser people compared to how they were before.
>>96471704She's a JOBBER compared to ME.
>>96471704>Stop calling my mom a jobber!Nice of you to have strong family bonds but we are just being real here.
>>96471704No, she committed the heinous sin of having shit taste in women.
>>96471704>put Keter in any scenarioShe'd mope like the sorry depressed ass she is.
your companions, parents, and mentors should use their wisdom guide youyou DO trust them, don't you? You didn't just pick Keter to raise you.... right?
Can we get a vote for limiting world size vs limiting world count?
>>96471721Bring out the poal.
>>96471720The points were so tempting...
>>96471719She only got depressed after getting utterly assblasted by Charlie
>>96471721What's the difference?
>>96471728In one we split people without overlap and in one we merge people with overlap
>>96471727And still evaded her Buki, Charlie is the real jobber.
>>96471730How about neither
>>96471718Kuuderes are great
>>96471721https://strawpoll.com/xVg71zLmOyr
>>96471720Keter will be a good mom.(laugh track)
>>96471739Add an option for neither, Im not voting for either of those they sound terrible.
