Inquisitor edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Level Animation:https://gofile.io/d/J7muqs>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/edit?usp=drivesdk>Previous Thread:>>96462518Thread question:What are your thoughts and or feelings on the warhammer 40k fandom outside of this website?
should I field 20x necron warriors and a rez orb overlord?orthe deciever?I already have 1 unit of 20x warriors and an overlord with rez orb (and 2 monoliths)
>>96463215>What are your thoughts and or feelings on the warhammer 40k fandom outside of this website?In general, the fanbase is filled with misconceptions and fanon more like folklore.
>>96463215>TQIt's both good and bad.It's definetly much better than this place, but at the same time it is also more cringy and also more retarded.Like I genuinely don't like it when I see people talking about 40k who clearly don't understand it and don't even know surface level fluff. But I recognize that's just my autism being triggered so I've learned to ignore it.
>>96463215>tqno idea, 4chan is the only social media which I use
What the fuck is "T-Sports" and why am I seeing the word around the place a lot now.
>>96463239It's a shitpost.Ignore it.
>>96463239An adequate description of what 40k has become
>>96463239Think e sports but for tabletop games.It also means that pickup is gonna get a lot more waacfag than usual.
>>96463239Trans sports.
Is it possible to make an Ancient look good or is it just relegated to being "guy w/ banner" and no one expects more of them than that?I grabbed a primaris intercessor body and gave a him a banner but it just feels boring even for primaris.
>>96463215>What are your thoughts and or feelings on the warhammer 40k fandom outside of this website?I dont even think about it to be honest, between you lads and IRL mates I get all the 40k talk I need
>>96463266make the banner cool dummy
>>96463246>>96463247You know we have a word for that already.Tournament.It's called tournament play.
>>96463239You're the shitposter asking so you can shitpost more
>>96463243I want my hobby to improve, damn it. I want the days of 40k being a WARGAME back, focused on narrative experiences. When the tabletop reflected the narrative (with the exception of marines being weaker than they're depicted in BL slop). When the most exciting thing to discuss was the latest Imperial Armour volumes fluff, not some dumbass metawatch! COMPFAGS RUINED THIS HOBBY, AND THEY MUST BE BELITTLED AT EVERY AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY. The bullshit started in 5th, and it has steadily gotten worse until now the game is a bunch of l-shapee ruins and squatting on pie plate objectives with every model being an infantry model ruleswise, even tanks. Compfags did this. They deserve to be killed.
>>96463266Banners are the default thing, but it can be anything, you could have a huge torch, a relic being held up, trophies made from fallen monsters, etc.To be fair the primaris ancient is just an intercessor with a banner and like laurels on his leg. It's not great.
>>96463280Calm down its just a game
>>96460254>Bottom left of your pic is the loosest, shittiest armbinder attempt I've ever seen.gropey is that you?
>>96463280Even fucking NARRATIVE PLAY, FUCKING NARRARIVE PLAY, is reduced to the same shit as competitive play. It's played the exact same way, except that your opponents aren't (usually) waacfags and an rpg-lite system is tacked on while you USE THE SAME FUCKING MISSIONS AND CORE GAMEPLAY DESIGNED AROUND COMPETITIVE PLAY, L-SHAPED RUINS AND SQUATTING ON PIE PLATES. FUCK.IT'S ALL FUCKED UP. SOMEONE NEEDS TO BARGE INTO WARHAMMER WORLD, FORCE THEIR WAY TO THE RULES DESIGN DEPARTMENT, KILL EVERYONE INSIDE AND START FROM SCRATCH.
>>96463273I did get a cool banner modeled by some guy named red warden, it looks cool and will look better painted for sure.>>96463282>To be fair the primaris ancient is just an intercessor with a banner and like laurels on his leg.Makes me glad i didn't spend the money to buy the official model.Maybe I'll try to paint campaign marks or something.
>>96463280>reflected the narrative (with the exception of marines being weaker than they're depicted in BL slop)It's the BLslop that exalts marines above their weight class through larger-than-life characters. A marine sarge can very feasibly and even easily job to a nob/ogryn/immortal/genestealer/herald of khorne/etc.
>>96463280If people are not intersted in narrative play, why would you want them to play it?This shit is a gift in disguise, people are showing you how little they care about the same things as you. Good. They filtered themselves for you.Find people who have the same values as you and stick to them.You cannot make people care.The only real complaint is about the miniatures, and even then 3rd party is slowly getting better and better.
>>96463285Not the anon but this mentality doesn’t make sense. >just stop caring about what you care about and let it go to the dirtWhy not instead encourage people to not resemble the rot they complain about?
>>96463293I'm going to kill you.
>>96463293>You cannot make people care.You absolutely can, but it takes time
>>96463295Not what I meant. I also want the game to get better but wishing death on people over a game is a little excessive.
>>96463293See >>96463289. Modern narrative play is tainted. And even narrative minded players won't dare touch an edition that isn't 10th . It's all FUCKED. The ONLY solution is to KILL THE FUCKING COMPFAGS POISONING THIS HOBBY.
>>96463302I reread my post and that guy’s posts and yeah I think you’re right he is being very extreme and I don’t really like it.
>>96463297I don't give a dimmadamn.>>96463300People can pretend to care, or follow you when they think you're the winning party, but they won't care.Very few people actually care, you can introduce them to think but truth is they always cared, they simply weren't aware of the specific things you're showing them.
>>96463280>>96463289>>96463297>>96463304I wonder how the FBI agent reading this is feeling right now.
>>96463304Just get friends/likeminded people and make your own rules, even if they're just mostly an old edition, doesn't matter as long as these are the rules that you guys enjoy.
Worthless TQ. I have better one: What your favorite 40k art in the past 12 month
>>96463317I'm not sure there's an artwork I liked in the past 12 years, brother.
>>96463317Had to think of something sorry.What really makes a good TQ anyways?
>>96463291False.If you don't codexes or novels, then shut your bitch mouth.It's codex lore that has marines bunching way above their weight class. In BL content, marines are much easily killed. Contrast marine vs GSC in the codexes vs the novel featuring marines vs GSC where a marine leader gets killed unceremoniously by a sniper shot.
>guy comes into LGS>wants to buy a jump pack captain for his blood angels, for a tournament at the end of the month>"oh I would buy a BA captain model, but he doesnt have a jump pack">suggest he just gets a jump pack off of ebay or a bitz site>"it's fine, i'll just check GW across town to see if they have a jump pack captain as there isn't one here"
Please post models
>>96463312No. That's for cowards. The system is broken. The only solution is to fix it, by force. A takeover. Then meld together the rules design of Andy Chambers and the creative direction of Alan Bligh. If this world doesn't want to see things your way, force them to. They won't know what they truly desire until you shove it down their greasy fucking throats.
>>96463329>Dude wants X>Get Y, it's right next to X>No it's okay, I'll try and find X>FUCKING BITCH /40kg/ WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS
>>96463330cool dragon
>>96463329some people want the specific thing they're describing, not anything else that also fits that description.
>>96463335>buy models with specific loadouts instead of kitbashing and /yourdudes/
>>96463334People accept this shit, let them have this shit.If nobody sells gold I'll find my own gold.The world doesn't need me, I don't need the world.
Being a genestealer cultist sucks. If I were iseakied into 40k, middle of recruitment into a human army. I would almost certainly die. However, with the Imperium and Tau, decades of miraculous survival would grant me renown, and eventually, I would retire. Miraculous survival with Chaos could see me gain immeasurable personal power and near immortality for great victory. What awaits a gene-stealer who not just survives but excels, Tyranids would discard the greatest human tactician and single combatant, you could kill all the Custodese personally and you wouldn't even get a thank you.
primaris marine fans are the slave caste of GW
>>96463344He didn't want what you offered, deal with it.What's up with people like you? People ask for a thing, you suggest something else and then you get pissy about people not wanting it, I'm puzzled, man.>I'd like to get a car>Get a scooter, it's cheaper>No thanks>I'D HAVE GOTTEN A SCOOTER, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?????
>>96463324>It's codex lore that has marines bunching way above their weight class.Every codex fluff is like that.A termie getting oneshot by a genestealer on a good ambush is a 40k gold standard since Space Hulk.>In BL content, marines are much easily killedDefinitely not on the average for a BL novel.
>>96463330I like Terminators, these guys did good in their first game
>>96463293/fitlit/ was too good for this world and I miss it every day
>>96463344I love kitbashing but sometimes you just want the base model because you like it. Besides, if you're doing a founding chapter they'll never be /yourdudes/ anyways
>>96463359nostalgia is fine but objectively primaris models look way better than the old dwarf marines
>>96463354>Being a genestealer cultist sucksIt really doesn't suck that much. Your soul is at least secure from the Warp assuming Tyranids arrive, since its gonna get just smothered by the Shadow into nothingness which is a win compared to being a prey item for daemon-forms like the rest of imperial citizens. >Tyranids would discard the greatest human tactician and single combatant, you could kill all the Custodese personally and you wouldn't even get a thank youNot quite>"confirmation has been cross-referenced from six separate battle fronts in the Taurensi System. There can be little doubt as to the truth of this strange phenomenon. Genestealer Cult forces continue to operate, unmolested, alongside extant Tyranid swarms, and have even been seen taking to the void alongside their bio-ships in bulk freighters and stolen frigates. Why do the xenos not simply devour their benighted worshippers as one would expect? Are they being tolerated, even encouraged as apostles? Exploited as just another weapon in the Hive Mind's arsenal? Or are they perhaps symbiotes, kept around until such time as their ability to provide nourishment outweights their utility as combat assets?"Nid+GSC cooperation has become even more common since this info, too.>Miraculous survival with Chaos could see me gain immeasurable personal power and near immortality for great victoryI mean, I think you're sugarcoating this: ascending to Daemonhood is literally growing your own cancerous soul-clone that slowly replaces and shoves you out of your body. At least that is the sole account of what we have in regards to becoming a DP, even if its from BL.
>>96463381Only because of better proportions. Not much else. HH already proved that all marines needed was better proportions.
Good morning, gentlemen.What're we working on today? I got this guy finished up last night.Post models
>>96463364>A termie getting oneshot by a genestealer on a good ambush is a 40k gold standard since Space Hulk.That's one off lines in a codex to hype a unit or whatever.In narrative stories in codexes or campaign books, marines kill a fuckton of troops and monsters. The 5th ed era codexes. The Pariah Nexus lore. etc.>Definitely not on the average for a BL novel.On average. Novels have Marines getting utterly fucked sideways. War of Secrets, for example. The Silent King novel is another.You need to do more reading.
>>96463381>my tastes are objective
Should I build my DE boats with Dark Lances or Disintegrators?
>>96463323I'd suggest discussing about /yourdudes/, kitbash or campaigns. It's better than digging through reddit or discord's safespace
>>96463396I am a fool, a buffoon even. I didn't realize there was already a post models post >>96463330Looking good demonanon. Does that model have 40k rules? I know most demons are also AOS stuff but I've never seen this one.
>>96463397>That's one off lines in a codex to hype a unit or whatever.No its literally the cover and core gameplay loop of the game in question. Like, basically the first 40k game even>In narrative stories in codexes In narrative stories within marine codices *>or campaign booksI implore you to give an actual campaign book like Anphelion Project a tryMarines aren't demigods anon, just highly advanced soldiers needed to meet measure of other factions which have their own marine-equivalents. That's the sole reason why MEQ is even a term
>>96463406Use which ever looks cooler.Nobody can tell xeno guns apart from each other anyway.
>>96463390>Your soul is at least secure from the Warp assuming Tyranids arrive, since its gonna get just smothered by the Shadow into nothingness which is a win compared to being a prey item for daemon-forms like the rest of imperial citizens.The Shadow in the Warp doesn't stop souls from entering the Warp.For example, Aeldari souls of those killed on Duriel by the Tyranids were devoured by Slaanesh, who brushed the Hivemind aside to eat them.Also, Hive Fleet Kraken ships have fragments of Aeldari souls clinging to them, evidence of their murder of Aeldari lives>Nid+GSC cooperation has become even more common since this info, too.You ignored the part of the text that says that speculates the Tyranids don't attack the GSC ships because of damage from Warpstorm affecting the Tyranids. Or how the Tyranids view these GSC following them as extra food to use whenever they are in a pinch.>I mean, I think you're sugarcoating this: ascending to Daemonhood is literally growing your own cancerous soul-clone that slowly replaces and shoves you out of your body.Beyond daemonhood, a powerful Chaos servant to extend his life indefinitely. sorcerers can reverse the aging process or possess new bodies.
>>96463420This trailer was shitty.
>>96463420>No its literally the cover and core gameplay loop of the game in question. Like, basically the first 40k game evenGameplay =/= loreLore says that Eldrad can break titans with his mind. Gameplay, he is a wuss.>In narrative stories within marine codices *And outside them in campaign books. The Pariah Nexus is not a marine codex. Read how the Black Templars tore a straight line through Necron legions and ships straight to the center of the Nexus.>I implore you to give an actual campaign book like Anphelion Project a tryWe are discussing BL vs GW. FW needs not apply.The point is that GW studio hypes Marines more than BL does. In BL droplike flies.
>>96463409It's a counts-as for this thing. The kit is so unbelievably shit that I just made my own out of an AoS kit that costs twice as much lmaoSame base and similar silhouette so it's a good fit
>>96463435Is it a throne? A chariot? A motorbike?
>>96463423>You ignored the part of the text that says that speculates the Tyranids don't attack the GSC ships because of damage from Warpstorm affecting the Tyranids.Huh? If you mean picrelated - which is what I quoted - I haven't seen a continuation of it, so please do post it.>The Shadow in the Warp doesn't stop souls from entering the Warp.Kronos leeching powers like Soul Hunger and the such are merely deeper levels of Shadow, so it does at X or Y concentration and discretion of the groupthink, either passively but far more likely actively. Either way having capacity to do so.
>>96463330Nothing new to post but a while back a couple anons were asking me about my desert bases so I put together a quick tutorial if anyones interested
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/8wocrwoc/aethon-shaan-master-of-shadows/Has any character ever been cucked this disgracefully before? Usually they at least let them die in a blaze of glory or something.
>>96463431>GW studio hypes Marines more than BL does. In BL droplike flies.They drop like flies at the discretion of the writer either way, in no way their lore status is more special than other faction that has a codex.
>>96463215>5 40kg threads up atm
>>96463445What are you talking about?
>>96463439it's a phoned in second option for the cannon chariotit wishes it was a motorbike
>>96463396I got a box of Saturnine dreads to use as Obliterators, still building them. I'll admit the models look better in person than in art and promo-shots.
>>96463454Shrike's replacement obviously, what the fuck do you think?
>>96463456>dreads*Terminators, if it wasn't obvious.Bit tired.
>>96463459How was he "cucked"?
>>96463464If you have to ask you're hopeless.
>>96463330I need to remove the mould line on his gun that I didnt even notice until I washed it but I'm really happy with this otherwise
>>96463461Dark Millenium... Never forgor
>>96463465So you're just baiting?
>>96463441It's mentioned in the GSC and Tyranid codexes.>Kronos leeching powers like Soul HungerThat's not universal. Some Tyranids eat souls, but the majority of the time, souls of people dying to nids go into the Warp like everything else.
>>96463468>e3 expoI shant forget you
>>96463456>>96463461The hip bones still look horrible and don't make sense unless you picture them as mini-terminators with nuggets inside instead of actual suits of armor. Like, only marines with full on four cybernetic limbs can wear those by idk, detaching the limbs modular-style and eing shoved inside.Thats the only way I can make sense of those ball jointed hips.
>>96463452One of them is a troll thread wearing /40kg/ in the subject. So ackshully it is four as that troll thread doesn’t count.
>>96463470I'm here for a conversation you're not providing and apparently completely unqualified for.Are you some kind of GW plant to lash out at any kind of negativity?
>>96463468>40k designed by the guy who did DarksidersWould have been interesting, at least.
>>96463466He looks very nice, anon
>>96463466sweet tit shields
>>96463442why do you pretend to be so many people?
>>9646347740k problem as old as time
>>96463480>this dude got cucked lol>Who?>Well that RG dude DUH>What do you mean by cucked?>Pff, if you gotta ask, you're stupidYeah great conversations you're trying to have here.My bad for asking you what you meant and trying to engage with you, won't happen again.
>>96463471>It's mentioned in the GSC and Tyranid codexes.... you're gonna post the bit about the Slaanesh or not? I am curious. Because the thing I cropped is the end of it, or at least what I could find.>but the majority of the time, souls of people dying to nids go into the Warp like everything else.I mean yeah we're entering the territory of metaphyiscal navelgazing but I really doubt that is much possible for an unshielded HUMAN soul to escape intact because Shadow already can be choking enough to fuck up people and cause psykers to self-combust, even the tech (and Wraithbone if Iyanna's novels anything to go by) is affected. Eldar souls might have an advantage due to being stronger/brighter and more concentrated but a regular human? And especially a hybrid (which logically would have even less of a tangible soul, most of it invested in Broodmind)? Don't think they'd cut it.
>>96463480>I'm here for a conversation you're not providing and apparentlyYou're here for a retarded conversation to waste time because you have nothing else to do.
>>96463496>hey let's talk about X>uh what is X I don't know what it isSo fuck off, no one asked you.
>>96463491I mean this one at least looks plausibly deniable with "he's just BIIIIG due to genes/warpjuice". The hips on Saturnines are just insane.
>kitbash stuff is turning up on fridayBe prepared to see something silly get posted in the next few days
>>96463472I forgot e3 used to be a thing. Oh god. It did go from a tech expo to a glorified commercial break, but it's still sad.>>96463483It looked nice, even if clearly lacking gameplay. Many such cases.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96463464I read the article and have no idea how he was "cucked"... but he posted an image of Kayvaan Shrike so he must be taking about how he gave up his position as Chapter Master
>>96463468Looks cartoony and not realistic enough
>>96463526Perfect for Space Marines.
>>96463486I seriously doubt that dude is the same guy as the tsons poster
>>96463497Chapter 16 from Valedor>The skein resounded to the triumphant laughter of She Who Thirsts. She was waiting for him now. Her presence pushed aside the limitless mind of the voidspawn. The horrors of the flesh had been displaced by that of the spirit.>He would die the true death, and know unending torment.------->The same could not be said for the aftermath. His waystone glowed, then shattered. He was pulled from this world. Before Slaanesh dragged him to her embrace, he saw the skein as he never had before, free of form’s material trammels. It stretched away in all directions, a multiplicity of universes and futures. There, ahead of him, he saw the future of his race.>Taec Silvereye’s soul sparkled with joy before She Who Thirsts pulled him into her thrall.>that is much possible for an unshielded HUMAN soul to escape intact because ShadowPylons don't stop souls from entering the Warp and they completely shut off the Warp from real space.
>>96463533it's a shitpost, don't reply
>>96463525I thought it might have been Shrike, but no, he meant his replacement.Doesn't matter really.
>2004>dawn of war releases>is an arcade-y, more artificially game-y game compared to mainline tabletop 40k>2025>dawn of war: Definitive Edition releases>still artificially game-y but somehow less game-y and artificial feeling than mainline tabletop 40kHow the fuck did we get to this point?
>>96463541I clearly meant Shrike, tardo.
>>96463537Fair enough, cant believe i fell for it
>>96463545You are just old nigga. Stop talking shit.
>>96463545People like playing games
>get an urge to make an unaligned greater daemon/minor chaos god like vashtorr, raptor god or malal for the kitbash collage>have no daemon bitz leftFuck. Guess I'll have to buy a GUO or some other big lad to get bitz.
>>96463535Ohh its BLslop and not codices, gotcha. I mean I don't mean that disparagingly towards you in particular, but I shall take the presented info with a grain of salt because I know that if actual codex writers struggle to make Warp metaphysics consistent then I can trust BL authors even less.>Pylons don't stop souls from entering the Warp and they completely shut off the Warp from real space.Again, doesn't make a lick of sense because of how they interact with the souls that haven't left bodies yet.
>>96463425Why, because it featured your precious marines dying? Because it's actually grim and dark for once? Fuck you, tourist scum. If you want noblebright heroshit, go play fucking age of sigmar
>>96463545So were pretending DoW1 is bad now? Alright.
>>96463526It was meant to compete with WoW.I'm gonna be honest I don't get why someone wants realistic graphics when the game isn't even gonna attempt to be realistic.I think it's ridiculous when a game has 4k hair physics and visibly expanding skin pores when the gameplay is the same basic shit I've seen a thousand times.But I get it, spectacle sells; you don't need to be good or try in order to see fancy graphics.TL;DR: cartoony visuals are good on a cartoony game.
>>96463558>passive aggressive, incoherent babbleTook you half an hour to come up with that because nobody else is biting your shit bait?Go away.
>>96463545Lowering the bar of entry, appealing to non-nerd/geek crowd.>>96463546>Shrike's replacement obviously, what the fuck do you think?>I clearly meant Shrike
>>96463484>>96463485Thanks anons
>>96463486schizo
>>96463561When the fuck did I say that? Dawn of War is quite good, it's just that I expect an RTS vidya game to be more streamlined and game-y than the mainline tabletop game it's based on, anon. I expect that to play more like a wargame and less like a video game. 20 years ago, the idea was that you played tabletop games for granularity and didn't lovingly assemble and paint an army and terrain just to play a slower version of a streamlined video game.
>>96463552the daemon prince has some neat bits
>>96463225Go with Golden Cheeks. He's the weakest of the C'tan, so the poor guy never gets any play.
>>96463335>>96463501How many posts like these do you make in an average day?
is the new raven guard detachment going to require ethan shane? the salamanders one needs their character but he comes in the combat patrol box not an overpriced separate purchase.
>>96463572I'm going to assume he meant "the replacement of Shrike" and worded it badly
>>96463580This>Anon demonstrates the level of illiteracy of the thread by accident.Godspeed, anon.>How did 40k get simpler than DoW1 in 20 years?>u say DoW1 bad!?
>>96463594I'm not sure I want to understand what he was on about man, I don't think it's worth the hassle.
>>96463601That's fair, have a nice day
>>96463572As in him being replaced, his replacement, not to be confused with his replacement, whatshisface. All this sperging and still no actual on topic discussion. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything.>>96463588One apparently.
over the weekend I bought a Warhammer starter set that turned out to be missing the Captain and Tyranid Prime sprue, and in it's place had a second Psycophage.I emailed GW customer support about it on Sunday, they say they respond with in three business days, it's is now 1:30 PM Wednesday in Britain. Still nothing
>>96463549Maybe. But at least we didn't run into pic related back in the day.>>96463551Yes, I like playing warGAMES, anon, I just personally feel that a game that requires the time investment 40k has just to start playing at all (as it is a tabletop miniatures game) should have more granularity than an RTS video game designed to be streamlined for the mass market of PC gamers.
>>964636073 days haven't passed
>>96463603Cheers, you too anon.>>96463606>his replacementHe stepped down. He didn't like the job. You cretin.
>>96463545Everything you just said is gibberish.
>>96463593you can skip your daily big mac for the week and buy the new character, you fat bitch
>>96463621>I can't read
>>96463612Man that shit is fuckin aids, im guessing that parking lot meme was a tourney thing that spilled over into casual play
>>96463619>He stepped down.Yeah that's cuckshit in 40k. Name one other character done that dirty.All that because people mocked Shrike's model.
>>96463612People get really mad at anyone who preferred older 40k for mechanical reasons here.
Painted my first nid, I have to complete my 1000pts list and find a name for the hive fleet
>>96463626This is the interesting on-topic conversation you had in mind?
>>96463624Sorry you have dyslexia.
>>96463626>Name one other character done that dirty.Prince Yriel
>>96463637Name a single one, bud!
>>96463626Didn't he only get the job because the retard prior to him got ambushed by the Tau?
>>96463642Kaldor Draigo
>>96463642Name one character that actually gets "cucked". Last (you).
>>96463641He wasn't replaced though and is a badass hero, though yes the whole Ynnari thing is pretty dreadful.Eldar getting relentlessly bullied by GW is par for the course.
>>96463636INCREDIBLY soulful scheme anonyour red/pink is awesome
>>96463622Calm down, James.
>>96463618yeah we still have three and a half hours left. That's why I'm not upset. Yet.
>>96463657They character assassinated him and erased his development in 6th ed. A total reverse of his storyHe stepped away from his role as admiral of Iyanden to be a corsair again
>>96463636That looks sick
>>96463666thanks satan. It's actually flashier IRL, I'll post the finished unit this week-end
>>96463636>Hive Fleet WatermelonIt's a good scheme. Pick a more serious sounding name. >>96463653Matt Ward is a filthy wretch, an ex MESG writer that butchered codex after codex from Daemons in 7th to GK in 5th. His sins will never be forgiven
>>96463636The scientific name for the most famous type of mantis shrimp, generally sporting bright oranges blues and greens, is Odontodactylus ("tooth finger") scyllarus, taking its name from the mythological greek monster scylla, who preyed on ships that tried to get around another sea monster which formed a great vortex in on strait of the mediterranean sea.
>>96463625It's a common misconception that tournament play, casual play, and narrative play are segregated and don't affect one another. The reality is that tournament play informs casual play, which then informs narrative play.Everything wrong with 40k can be traced back to the compfags. >compfags complain about wanting to have all rules options be in the kit>gw gets rid of the bitz store in the 2000s and then slowly gets rid of all the unit options that weren't included in the kit in subsequent editions>compfags whine and complain about AT weapons designed to one-shot tanks killing their tanks within 100m>gw introduces hull points>compfags complain about their then-OP superheavies not being fieldable outside of apocalypse>gw releases escalation and then eventually makes an entire faction of superheavies (knights)>compfags then complain about superheavies being OP as shit outside of apocalypse (who could have predicted)>8th edition makes vehicles into big infantry models, changes how toughness and strength work so that lasguns can hurt T10 models>marine compfags complain about weapon loadouts not being streamlined and same-y to be "optimized">GW introduces the primaris line of space marines featuring units with the same loadouts, no mixed weapon types>compfags complain about wargear adding too much unpredictability to play>GW removes wargear costs in 10th so every unit can now be assumed to be using the strongest wargear options for tourney math hammer purposes>compfags complain about being shot off the table if they don't get first turn in 8th and 9th (this one is valid desu) but want the game to remain just as lethal >gw normalizes making the entire board consist of L-shaped LOS blocking terrain to prevent this, doesn't lower the lethalityLately compfags have started advocating transparent terrain, so GW will probably find a way to normalize that within the ruleset itself in the future, affecting casual play and narrative play. Pic related
>>96463636hive fleet salmon
It's not an uncontroversial opinion
>this faggot is still spamming the same 5 images of tourneyfags>Except now he's concern trolling rather than ironic shitposting
>>96463706>>96463716fuck off already
>>96463650>AM>Astra Militarum>Adeptus MechanicusSilly newfag. It's IG (Imperial Guard) and AdMech respectively.
>>96463693LotR SBG is a far better ruleset/game than 40k and the warddexes had great rules that were only a "problem" because other rules writers were shit.
>>96463636looking good champ
>he rocks up to the gaming table trying to play build option pink as build option greenI don't think so, bozo.
>>96463706At least half of these can be explained by trying to sell more kitsSuper heavies in standard game? Sell kitsKnight faction? Sell kits.Only options in the kit? Sell kits.Remove options/streamline? Make cheaper kits, sell more kits.Primaris? Sell more kits.Remove wargear/cost? Less thinking, more kit buying.The whole comp/shrimpification of 40k is a product of this: Selling. More. Kits.If you say something true followed by something false, people don't care that you were right on half.
>>96463706The first point is because of Chapterhouse.Chapterhouse argued that they can infringe on the IP and sell models if the models don't come with that option and so to not have 40k become open domain they sent everything to legends and made it a rule that boxes had to contain all the options and units without dedicated models were removed
>>96463716>painting models in the same category as the 'novels'I know what you are.
>>96463733Yeah, painting should be in the brown section of the meme.
I like painting models I just hate the drying time.
>>96463720I am not >>96463716.>>96463718>he said something I don't like, he must be trolling!I wish I was trolling. I wish I was happy with the state of this hobby. But I'm not. And the only thing I can do now is spread awareness of my plight, in the hopes that perhaps one day the hobby will heal, and things will get better.Is it wrong to be passionate about what one loves?
>>96463726Funny enough you can build the first one with the scope of the third one
>>96463716Based, except lore/novels. Replace those with "fluff" and put them along the dirt and it's perfect.>>96463726If I ever get some hellblaster I'm putting the pink scope on the blue assembly.
>>96463716this pig is probably a TTS player
>>96463736Nigger we've seen these images used by you to shitpost ironically and bring down board quality
>>96463736You have never participated in the hobby in the first place you retarded, low effort shitposter. Fuck off. Don't bother replying, you're not getting another (You) from me
>>96463752I am not the same person who made the "table sports" thread.
>>96463735Just has a thought are hairdryers a good hobby tool?
>>96463750No wayI would hate the game even more if I wasn't using my minis
>>96463760These threads are filled with autistics who think everyone is one of six people.
@96463760Lol, lmao
>>96463731The Chapterhouse thing was that GW couldn't claim copyright for models they didn't actually make. GW killing bits was a loosely related but still different issue where Kirby (who will face judgement before God for all his evil deeds) hated 3rd party bits sellers and called them "leeches" and would rather provide a worse product than have other people benefit from "their IP".
>>96463760>>96463778Can we just skip to the part were you ask people to post physique, eventually post your fuckoff ugly gingernigger face, people laugh at you and you move on to a different thread?
>>96463756>you have never participated in this hobby in the first placeUh huh, sure. Here's my work in progress. Where's yours?
>>96463760>>96463778Samefags less.
>>96463552Tell me about your minor god anon
>>96463773Not great to use with paint, better to just have a fan nearby to help move the water and evaporate it though i guess a hairdryer running without the heater would function the same.The heat is good for drying washes and base pastes quickly and I one for those constantly as I can just get it all done in minutes rather than waiting for both to dry naturally and its a base so anything going slightly wrong doesnt matter.They are also really useful for resin minis and bending into place but that wont work with plastic minis
>>96463793Looks finished to me, good enough for a good old fashioned table sports matchup at your local Warhammer 40,000 10th Edition® tournament! You need to make time for coaching sessions!
>>96463804you need to make time for washing your ass sessions, you stink, pig face!
genuinely fucking awful thread apart from the modelposters
>>96463330Progress on the big mek
>>96463814>the compfag lashes out when he is mocked
>>96463795>>96463788
>>96463828>doesn't deny he stinksgrim... one might say grim and dark
>>96463822cheer up anon, here's a skittle
>>96463822When is it ever different than that?
I know next to nothing about necronsHow exactly does Necron reanimation protocols work in lore?would it be possible for parts of necrons to be claimed as trophies?Do Lords and Overlords get revived too?How much of a necron needs to be destroyed before they can no longer operate?
>>96463636The scheme is punchy in a soulful way but also a little bit ugly in a similar oldhammer vain. And I think its a hood thing that I am feeling a bit conflicted about the candy green claws?Good job, very clean.
>>96463793What's your face recipe anon?
>>96463894Ghetto ass
>>96463822I'd post something but im just building shit atm
>>96463330The paintjob on them is bad even for this being my first time building and painting minis, but at least my fuckups with a brush sort of work in my favor to make them look dirty. I'll paint over the bases later, I want to see how well I can do textured terrain paints.
>>96463905What?
>>96463793>no timestampnot yours
>>96463330My archon WIP. Gonna look into seeing if there is room for a second corpse.
>>96463716>porn>memes>hype
>>96463950Those are the only 3 I am involved in does that still make me a primary?
>>96463918Looks fine for first models, anon. Some advice I'd give if you're set on contrast paints is to apply a zenithal highlight after priming a darker color. Really helps the model stand out as opposed to just contrasting over straight white.
>>96463965No, gross
>>96463735army painter's warpaints dry way too fast maybe they would work for you
>>96463965models and playing the game makes you primary. don't @ me about your 100 book BL collection.
>>96463968I actually primed black and then drybrushed grey, then white. I probably just grossly misunderstood the best way to apply the drybrushing, you can see the two models that don't have contrast paint yet on them in the back
>>96463801Thank you!>>96463981Thank you as well!
>>96463990they look fine for a contrast paint job
Reminder that you're in this hobby for the sake of building and painting minis, the game is too shit for you to get into this otherwise.
All you need are modelsDon't even have to be official
>>96463650Imagine if the Ministorum were a playable faction.
>>96463990Ah, I see. Looks like you just need more practice then. Your goal with the zenithal is to effectively create your recesses and highlights before you apply colors, whereas from what I can see your model looks like mostly highlights after you're done dry brushing. You'll get better at it as you go. I'd try to have your recesses more pronounced next time.Stole some random picture for reference of what I'm talking about. You should have clear dark spots and light spots for where your light source is hitting the model.
>>96464037I know man.
>>96464033I'm in this hobby to justify my funny ork headcanon and build shit from scratch
>>96464033I play just to hangout with my friends desu
>>96464037just be happy we have AdMech. every model playable in multiple factions is like a small miracle considering GW loves to crunch sales numbers for more SM slop
>>96463965If you got into 40k via anything other than miniatures and codexes then you're a secondary.
>>96464067The fact that beating it to Warhammer still does not grant me the position of a primary is insane, its unfair!
>>96464056how does it feel to have friends anon?
>>96464067>this level of butthurt gatekeepingPrimary: owns models, plays the gameSecondary: novels/(video)games/merchandise Tertiary: memes and /40kg/
>>96464083merchandise is tertiary together with memes and "online communities"
>>96463535>Before Slaanesh dragged him to her embrace, he saw the skein as he never had before, free of form’s material trammels. It stretched away in all directions, a multiplicity of universes and futures. There, ahead of him, he saw the future of his race.>>Taec Silvereye’s soul sparkled with joy before She Who Thirsts pulled him into her thrall.That line made me exceptionally sad given what all has happened since then.
>>96464060are there any tau/eldar interactions in the fluff? what do they think of each other?
>>96464089I'd give it secondary status simply because you actually need to spend money for this tier
>>96464111Any time a Craftworld accidentally travels into Tau space they're immediately bombarded with frequent spam phone calls asking them to join the Greater Good.
>>96464111who cares what two pathetic side factions think of each other?
>>96464127the person you replied to, retard
>>96464111Yes.
>>96464111xenology implies a group of eldar* engineered the ethereal caste and kickstarted the development of the tau as an interstellar specieswe have random artworks of tau fighting eldar with no specific backstory attached, both craftworlders, dark eldar and harlequinseldrad has a quote where he sees them as young and naive but also as having the potential to grow past them because their philosophy is solidno other significant interaction*people assume craftworlders but such a thing is not a given, could be dark eldar, who do enjoy reaping them quite a bit
>>96464127Maybe the person who asked the question
>>96464127Xenosfags have a misplaced sense of importance.
>>96464127The Tau Empire's borders are now brushing against Ultramar.They are planning to invade it. Let's see you call them names when Maccrage falls.
>>96464137Anon you know the Plague Wars are chronologically next, right? The Tau invasion gets utterly crushed and swept aside by the Death Guard's invadion.
>>96464130
Gave her some pasties and dropped my submissions at the local GW for a painting competition. Wish me luck anons.
>>96464142
>>96464111Yes.>>96464130>we have random artworks of tau fighting eldar with no specific backstory attached, both craftworlders, dark eldar and harlequinsEach art piece comes from a codex. Each has a story attached to it. Let me post more stuff.
Do you play using winner tops rules, anons?
>>96464074Feels good, you should try it anon
>>96464151
>>96464152>Eldar can't even beat Tau>In their own codex, at thatLmao
>>96464139No. The Plague Wars already ended and the setting progresses beyond that. Arks of Omen and the Crusade book take place after the Plague Wars.It's spelled out to you in the Crusade: Pariah Nexus book.
>>96464152>Each has a story attached to it. Let me post more stuff.I missed those from later codexes, cool.
>>96464137Can't wait for 'two gay retards fighting'.
>>96464159That's the T'au when they were using fossil fuel suits, IIRC. Look up the date of the conflict. That's way before the Damocles Crusade.>>96464152More.
>>96464154Whenever someone brings it up, which has only been once. Any opportunity to get my ass raped is an opportunity I relish.
>>96463486I don't paint anywhere near as well as the tsons guy, Are you psychotic
>>96464128been retardMAXXIN, thanks for noticing
>>96463396The Red Legion has won. I kneel.
>>96464165More stuff.
>>96464142>>96464151>>96464158Open battlefields? Huh? Where is all the L-shaped terrain?
>>96464152But that's iyanden, this >>96464142 is ulthwe
>>96463396Vostroyan if he dorf
>>96464179>Tau>being a bigger threat than necrons, everwhat retarded kind of shit headcanon is this?
>>96464056Wish I had friends nearby that had a set up at their house, the only friend that I know that's into this hobby lives 4 hours away. I just want to have a few beers while playing a game, cant do that at an lgs
>>96464179Moar>>96464181The artwork was originally not coloured.
>>96464202>no beer at your LGSmust feel bad to be american
>>96464204>The artwork was originally not colouredWhen it wasn't colored it wasn't 'attached' to that story though
>I'm getting raped.
>>96464217>implying warhammer 40k players can get sexual intercourse
>>96464217Grim
>>96464217we don't sign our posts here
>>96464190Necrons are declining, Tau are ascending.Every Necrons killed is an irreplaceable loss and they're getting ravaged by dementia and the Flayer virus. At some point the Crons will run out of brainpower and be little more than animals
>>96464204>Curiosity's Cost>T’au Empire explorers board the empty husk of Craftworld She’enshar. Just days after their arrival, the T’au are driven off by Harlequins of the Frozen Stars, who surge from the craftworld’s webway portals to violently evict the interlopers.Codex: Harlequins (8th edition)>>96464215It comes from the 6th ED codex originally, which mentions the Iyanden interaction.
new raven guard detachment seems worse than the regular vanguard one
>>96464204I like the characterization on the Tau for that one.
>>96463918i think they look fine for what it's worth
>>96464226There are trillions of crons tho
>>96464222You retard, it's very easy to lose your virginity if you play using winner tops rules. You're either going to end up getting raped or raping your opponent, both are good outcomes.>>96464223And dark!
>>96464226they are bound to splinter eventually even if they are ascending now. even with all the dynastic wars, the necrons at least have a common goal. what common goal has a vespid with a kroot besides eating?
>>96463243>>96463279>shitposterlooks like some feelings are starting to get hurt by the truth
>>96464204why do the writers not understand that a phyrric victory isn't a victory at all?
>>96464250>>96464245The Necrons own codex says that their chances of conquering the galaxy without the Pariah Nexus plan are virtually nonexistent due to their madness and infighting.And the Pariah Nexus plan was derailed after Vashtorr fucked over the Silent King.The Necrons' prospects are grim.Most Kroot, according to their new lore genuinely believe in the Greater Good and are utterly loyal to the T'au
>>96464228>It comes from the 6th ED codex originallyThe 6th ed codex was colored, the non colored artwork is older.You're trying to tell me the artwork represents that event before the event was written and it being colored to show a different subfaction in the codex where that lore is written is indication the artwork does indeed represent that event.
>>96464260The T'au didn't lose anything, though.
>>96464253Sunk cost demands that they defend their hobby against accusations that compfags won and ruined the hobby, even when they know it's true
>>96464150I believe blanon.
>New RG guy has free rapid ingress, free heroic and reroll charge rollsIs he really just the ENTER character
Was the Big E stronger than any eldar war in heaven psykers before he was placed on the Golden Throne? I know he supposedly beat up the largest shard of the Void Dragon c'tan in the Middle Ages using a spear so that suggests the answer is yes?
>>96464265>losses amongst the tau's vassal races are substantialI forgot that they are communists and don't care when satellites get brutally slaughtered in the name of their party slogan
>>96464275The meme is wrong, and whoever drew it needs to be tortured for their ignorance. The Emperor imprisoned a shard of the void dragon, whereas the necrons split the original c'tan into those shards and then imprisoned them as easily as Ash traps Pokémon.
>>96464150Such a gorgeous model anon, I really enjoy coming here and seeing your stuff. Maybe one day we can be best of friends.
>>96464275Isn't it stated the Emperor barely escaped with his life too?
>>96464289It wasn't easy for the necrons, but it was specifically a shard with half of the void dragon's power that was created when a blackstone fortress split it in two. A modern necron dynasty would get clapped by a ctan shard that large >>96464296Not sure but that would make sense. Defeating a shard with half the power of an ancient ctan is insane, it has to be one of the emperor's most incredible feats
>>96464290
>>96464289>necrons split the original c'tan into those shardsyeah I never quite understood that. given that ctan are like physical anti warp entities, shouldn't they die when split up? I mean there is no immaterial quality to them, right? how does a broken entity still wield power?
>>96464274Apparenlty he couldn't lead any unit. Weird.
>>96464300They didn't have physical bodies or sentience originally, they were this sort of star parasites that floated around. The necrons (who actually ruined everything in 40k) created them living metal bodies based on their mythological gods, which is when they gained sentience.
>>96464300The main lesson to take away is that newcron lore is shit and they should've stuck with oldcrons
>>96464264>The 6th ed codex was colored, the non colored artwork is older.Proof?>>96464275One, the tale was told from the shard's perspective, and the novel says it's unknown what's real and what's an allegory from the memories of the Dragon.Two, the novel says that the shard was mortally wounded by its kind when it fell to earth
>>96464275We know none of the details of the Emperor's "battle" with the void dragon shard. It's just as likely it submitted willingly and was given Mars as it's sphere of influence. There are several books that imply it is less trapped in the labyrinth and more resides there.
>>96464313Interesting
>>96464304>created them living metal bodies based on their mythological gods,No, the C'tan took the forms of the old Necrontyr gods.
>>96464304that's what I don't get. if they imprisoned ctan in the same kind of metal bodies they have themselves why do 99% of necrons not retain their sanity? why aren't they sentient when a broken star parasite can be? especially considering necrons had souls at some point and ctan most likely never did
>>96464275No
>>96464150Do you reckon CSM use space marine helmets as trophies becuase they're more resiliant and last longer than just skulls, being just bone and all
What kind of energy are the CTan made of if they are only made of corporeal physical, tangible, measurable things and not any kind of warp energy? Are they sentient radio waves?
>>96464275Yes. The Emperor is the strongest psyker the galacy has ever known.
Void dragon aside, the emperor is clearly meant to be the strongest psyker in the setting. There really isn't anyone else in the same league. He was probably about as strong as it is possible for a living biological psyker to be. That's why I think it only makes sense to assume he or humanity was created as a weapon by the Old Ones or something, he is a genuine freak of nature. I know the old lore about the shamans isn't canon anymore but you need something like that or the Old Ones to explain his existence.
>>96464322>in the same kind of metal bodies they have themselvesit wasn't the same and the ctan are very different things from normal living beings
>>96464336that's the story his church tells, yes
>>96464336Debatable. Definitely the strongest in the current few myriads. The Old Ones were beings of incalculable power that could even create new warp gods though.
>>96464337>>96464336No proof of that is given.Gav Thorp when asked if the Emperor is a god, said no.Meanwhile, VAshtorr described the Old Ones as living gods.
>>96464330They're not just made of corporeal physical, tangible, measurable things, they are a sentient tangle of the very fabric of spacetime, that's why you cannot destroy them without tearing apart reality.
>>96464150Please tell me those are just stickers and you didn't actually paint over your masterpiece
>>96464336He's beleived to be in universe. How true it is is anyones guess
>>96464337>the emperor is clearly meant to be the strongest psyker in the settingno, it isn't
>>96464348>said noOh no no no what the fuck is empowering the sisters of battle and living saints then. The unborn star child? It can't be the dark king, as the dark king is a ruinous powers himself and therefore not considered "anathema"
>>96464348That has nothing to do with whether he is the strongest psyker or not. That being said, the concept of a god isn't even defined clearly in 40k, that gets covered in Godblight. If a small number of humans joining the Tau can create a minor Greater Good warp entity then trillions of humans worshipping the emperor for ten thousand years would clearly juice him beyond belief, and he was already the strongest psyker.
>>96464337I always think of the discussion between Magnus(Tzeentch) and Vulkan (The Emperor) when Tzeentch finally realizes he is not talking to Vulkan but someone clearly much more powerful and he just straight up asks outta nowhere "Who are you?!"
>>96464353How does sentient spacetime feel about the canon existence of time travel?
>>96464354It's painter's tape which I sprayed gold.
>>96464330GW never decided. They just thought it would be cool if they contrasted warp-based gods but never gave it any serious thought beyond that.
>>96464366We're gonna kill you, Corpse-Emperor worshipper. The Emperor is not a fucking god, and whatever is pulling off feats of faith in the Imperium is either the Unborn Star Child in the warp or something else entirely. Your Emperor is merely a corpse. The setting is grimdark. Embrace it and stop trying to pretend it's heroshit
>>96464353Why does trapping and sharding the fabric of reality not rip apart the fabric of reality?
>>96464364>>96464366We have been over this.Faith Powers are not psychic. They do not come from the Warp.
>>96464382What do they come from, then? Jesus? Is Jesus canon?
>>96464371Dunno, but I'd be pretty miffed and jelly about it.
>>96464337>I know the old lore about the shamans isn't canon anymoreWhat? Since when?
>>96464377Who ever said him becoming a god is a "good" thing? I mean, it probably isn't is it? Eldar gods did all sorts of crazy shit, and the sort of god he evolves into is dependent on the believers so the sort of being that might truly "wake up" in the warp if his physical body died wouldn't really be the man that was put on the Golden Throne
Weird tangent but, can Necrons even enter the warp? Is there any instance of them ever doing so in the lore? How do they perceive things in the warp with no souls?
>>96464228Some more.The Frozen Stars are said to oppose the reckless expansion of the Tau Empire, especially when it treads on Eldar property.
>>96464322>if they imprisoned ctan in the same kind of metal bodies they have themselvesNot the same kind of bodies, just the same kind of metal. A c'tan body and a necron warrior body, though both made primarily of necrodermis, has as much in common as a howitzer cannon has to a rusty sword even though both are made primarily steel.
>>96464378Multidimensional knot theory.
>>96464382We've been over this. Faith Powers are not your psychic abilities. They come from someone you have faith in who is psychic.
>>96464385>is Jesus canon?Yes. Now you're getting it. 40k is a Christian setting, the Emperor is Christ returned and He is setting things right in the galaxy. This is why Chaos cannot win, because He is King and is prophesized to win. 40k is merely the time of tribulations, the millennium of peace everlasting is just over the horizon. This is why chaos players are more than just annoying, they're Satan worshippers. Only be worshipping the Christ-Emperor can you be saved and redeemed.
>>96464401"But that's just psychic powers with extra steps."
>>96464399So you're saying they just made the CTan... take the knot?
>>96464382>Faith Powers are not psychic. They do not come from the Warp.Yes, they do. The warp is effected by emotions, beliefs, and subjective experience. How much any being changes the warp depends on how strong their soul is there. A psyker is a person with a greater connection to the warp, a more powerful soul. Faith in the emperor changes the warp just like anything else does. That's also why Fabius Bile's reddit atheism causes daemons physical pain when they are near him. 40k has always been pic related
>>96464393Yes.They were terrified.Illic Nightspear's rifle transports Necrons to the Warp.The Nightbringer's capital ship was lost in the Warp for millions of years.
>>96464382>We have been over this.You know that people recognize you as a shitter when you use this phrase.
>>96464406Based
>>96464406Idolatry? In /40kg/? It's more likely than you think!
>>96464401>>96464410No. A psychic expert once told the Ethereals that Faith Powers come from within, not from the Warp.>That's also why Fabius Bile's reddit atheism causes daemons physical pain when they are near him.Post text.
>>96464412>Nightbringer's capital shipwut?
>>96464337>power levelsNo.
>>96464440You haven't read the Nightbringer novel by Graham McNeil?
>>96464437>Saqqara unhooked a flask and murmured softly, running a finger over it in what might have been a calming manner. As he drew close to Fabius, the daemons within his flask grew agitated.>"They hate you, Fabius," observed Palos. "The daemons - I've never heard them make that sort of noise. Usually it's all laughter and whispers.">"Why should they be any different to the rest of us?" Savona said.>"The Neverborn are stories made flesh," Saqqara said, holding up the flask. The formless thing within slammed minuscule fists against the wall of its prison. "Stories of murder and fear, despair and hope. Of excess and cruelty. They are warnings and retributions, hammered into shape by our belief. They are what we make of them." He looked at Fabius. "And he makes of them... nothing. He denies them, denies the story of them. It infuriates them, down to the very root of their conception.">Fabius smiled. "As I will always deny them. I will not play the willing meat for such lazy parasites. If they want my belief, they must show me something more than they have already." The thing in the flask grew agitated, causing it to shudder in Saqqara's grip. Fabius leaned close, smile widening. "But that would require some degree of true sentience, I fear. Something these thought-forms are singularly incapable of. They are nothing but cunning mirrors - hollow and empty. But they do make wonderful scouts."
>>96464437Give a straight answer and tell us where you think faith powers come from, then provide a source
>>96464377>The Emperor is a corpse (He is the Carrion Lord after all)>The wapr entity born from the God Emperor worship is very much very>This 'God Emperor' being is just as short sighted, ignorant, theocratic, hateful, spiteful and stupid as the ignorant masses of the Imperium that formed itDamn thats grimdark
>>96464406>schizopostingWouldn't the Emperor actually be the antichrist considering he destroyed Christianity and demanded people worship science in its place?
>>96464382>We have been over this.You say that, but your proofs on the matter have been shown time and time again to be faulty.a race that doesn't understand warpstuff at all thinks to have found a way to completely block it, something passes through.the easiest conclusion is not that faith powers aren't warp powers at all, but that they work in ways not yet understood that somehow get around that block.say for example you built a dam to block a river, but the next day you found your house completely wet anyway.you can consider that water might reach your house in ways other than the river or you might shut your brain and argue that rain isn't actually water.
>>96464373Nta but let us know how you do anon
>>96464448>oldcron lore
>>96464449So it's not actual pain but just annoyance. Not too dissimilar to daemons feeling bothered by Orks not fearing them. And of course, that's just a Word Bearer speaking religiously and not the objective truth. Secular and amoral science after all empowers Vashrorr
N OTHA EMPRAH IS EH GOHDDO NOWT BE SO BOOOOLD AND FOOLISH
>>96464461Oh, and he also proceeded to use Christian imagery after destroying it in order to prop up science. Straight up appropriating holy symbology in order to further his own unholy ends. Sounds outright demonic to me
>>96464373Oh thank god
>>96464471You're misunderstanding. Things you do for "secular" reasons can empower chaos. It's specifically his denial of their existence as daemons, of insisting on understanding them merely as another kind of non-sentient phenomena. It is an active denial of them. You really came across as retarded in this thread
>>96464451Like miracles in real life, it's supposed to be mysterious.>>96464467It's not a lack of knowledge on the part of the Necrons. The text outright says it's not of the Warp.Even the Sisters of Silence know that they can't shut down Faith Powers.
>>96463593So, all of the new detachments require a named model?This is giving me the end of 9th vibes, with the removal of wargear costs in some units that got general in 10th
>>96464378More like brapping and sharding lawl
>>96464497>It's not a lack of knowledge on the part of the Necrons.Yes, it is
>>96464449Words cannot describe tbe loathing I feel for Fabius and all of the fans of his who utterly misunderstood the exchange between him and Slaanesh.
>>96464491No. You are reading too much into this. You can deny daemons all you want. It won't hurt them. It's not belief that created them. It's not what powers them. It's basic emotions.
>>96464497>when the warp pylons on cadia got turned on briefly by Cawl and Trazyn, all warp phenomena disappeared>this included all the faith powers of the sisters of battle present as well as Celestine's saint powers>the legion of the damned disappeared briefly during this eventHmmm, sounds warp based to me
Necrons don't understand souls or psyker shit. They have the most advanced science when it comes to the physical universe, but anything involving the warp is just "idk, it's like, magic." That's why the experiments at putting necron minds in the bodies of other races have been failing in fucked up ways >>96464515yeah this guy is a coping retard
>>96464515Only Celestine's power was shut off, and GW addressed that recently. The Legion of the Damned is not based on Faith powers. Their mini-series shows that they use a Warp relic to turn marines into what they are.The Pylons of the Nexus are an upgrade on the Old Pylons. They can't shut down Stern or the acts of faith.>>96464508No. Read the text of Stern's novel or Psychic Awakening: Pariah.
>>96464533>yeah this guy is a coping retardCoping is telling you what the text says verbatim?
>>96464550you are not smart enough to merit another substantive reply. You are at the point where you are implying that Celestine, the living saint, having her powers turned off by cutting off the warp has nothing to say about the connection between faith and the warp. It's pointless to engage you further
>>96464550coping is misreporting what the text says verbatim and then ignoring everything but your assumption
>>96464557Whatever, man. Did you know that Celestine once again fought beneath the effect of Pylons, and her powers weren't diminished at all?So what happened on Cadis was effectively retconned.Deal with it.
>>96464515No, see, faith Powers come from a different parallel dimension called the house of god and the pylons strengthening reality just also makes that one split away the same way that the warp does. It's seperate but equal.
I think Black Library sucks.
>>96464573>So what happened on Cadis was effectively retconned.OR the new pylons worked slightly differently.Even on cadia it wasn't an all or nothing situation either.
Love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe.
>>96464564Not an assumption. A factual statement. You are the one adding things that are not there.
>>96464544>Only Celestine's power was shut off, and GW addressed that recentlyProof? Post the fucking source, dude.
>Where the cyclopean pylons rise to the skies, entire regions of realspace are cut off from the warp as though by a fractured wall of glass. Though the effect is not absolute, warp travel and translation, astropathic messaging and the manifestation of daemonic or psychic energies become vastly more difficult. Should the scattered nexus sites extend until their fields merge, Szarekh believes that the threat of Chaos could be defeated forevermore. >Though the effect is not absolutePylons, nulls, and other anti-warp measures never fully shut off the connection. Funnily enough there is one pysker who was known ot be able to overcome the pariah gene....
>>96463636Now this is cricket.
>>96464574>the house of godthat's the warp
>>96464584The Pylons that Celestine fought under were of the old type, similar to the Cadian ones.The Gathering Storm book said that 99% of the psychic powers were suppressed and all psykers save for the most powerful ones died. The Pylons didn't reach 100% power yet.
>>96464592My guy, that's on areas where the Pylons are not working 100%.If you bothered to read more Pariah Nexus crap then you would know that if Pylons were triggered to 100% in a system, all life ends and the Warp becomes so frozen that daemons freeze in place in it like flies in amber.
>>96464585I'm painting the eyes on two right now
>>96464585Do you own one. Is it painted? Can we see it
>>96464627>my guy>dudeeven the way you write is unbearably retarded, never reply to me again
>>96464587>A factual statementNope, what's factual is that you misreported what was said verbatim and are ignoring any and all potential readings of the text for your own assumption that flies in the face of everything else brought against it.The difference being highlighted is in method, not source, imperials have absolutely no understanding of the source of their powers or the nature of warpstuff either, they only know their method.That's why the text says the imperials understood the difference.
>>96464639nasty little wank
>>96464590The Warhammer+Loremasters episode "The Nephilim Anomaly" gave theories on why Stern is unaffected by Pylons while Celestine was on Cadia:Theory 1: There is a variance in the PylonsTheory 2: The strength of faith of both characters and those around themTheory 3: Something mysterious at work
>>96464627>>96464655
>>96464656Theres also the whole ephreal stern book where she learns her powers are not warp born at the end but i think im probably the only person who read that also >bl
>>96464639Sorry (not sorry) that you are wrong and autistic.>>96464651That's the omniscient narrator saying that the Necrons were wrong and the Imperials were right.It's simple English. You can't twist into your fanfiction.
>>96464666Of course Satan would read BL
>>96464576>I think Black Library sucks.Were you expecting better literary quality from a publisher that makes books about a toy soldiers game, played by middle-aged men?
>>96464666That too. In the end chapter, all psykers are struck by the Pariah Nexus while Stern is unbothered and still channeling her power.But these guys in the thread just can't handle that faith is separate from the Warp. Even Stern's rules IIRC note that her power is not psychic.
>>96464668You're once again misreporting what the text says, the omniscient narrator says the imperials understood the difference.The imperials cannot understand the difference in source, they have zero knowledge of the metaphysics, they can only understand the difference in methodology.If we go by your assumption, the omniscient narrator is objectively wrong, but he cannot be wrong, so your assumption is to be discarded.
>>96464592>Funnily enough there is one pysker who was known ot be able to overcome the pariah gene....Magnus?Greyfax?
>>96464691It's an easy simple English text. Imperials understood that what Stern was manifesting stems from faith. That's it, clear and simple. It didn't say they understood the exact metaphysics behind it. They have straightforward faith that their faith was manifesting. While the Necrons, as the text describes, were clueless that faith powers cannot be countered by Pylons
>>96464627If the pylons ever actually worked like that then how in the hell did the Necrons manage to lose the War in Heaven?
This is all a cautionary tale about how not to write magic/demons.
>>96464685Not OP but I think the big issue I have with BL is that it's very bad but people seem to really bring it up constantly. If you play 40k, one of the TTRPG, or even if you are a video game secondary you will be subjected to the books or their content violently and against your will. Also there are a couple of good tie-in novels out there, Warcraft 2 had a book that was pretty decent though apparently all the other attempts were shit, and I heard good things about a few Halo books.
>>96464717According to the Oldcron lore, the Necrons were about to finish the Pylon network that would have sealed their ultimate victory but then the Old Ones empire exploded so there was no point in completing it.
>>96464725Finally an anon who gets it
>>96464712>It didn't say they understood the exact metaphysics behind itexactly, meaning they only thing they are understanding is that they are praying and having results, instead of casting spells and having results.it's simple logic, you can twist and turn it however you want, but the difference remains in method, not in matter, because they cannot understand the matter.You're wrong and should go die on a different hill.
>>96464686So they're just turning 40k into capeshit? Is that it? They're just taking out the grimdark so that faith powered superhumans who are immune to psychic dampening sources can run around and shitstomp the setting?
>>96464747No. I am not. As a kind anon reminded me, the Stern novel also states that Faith Powers DO NOT come from the Warp.Source after source says this while you are clinging to fanfiction.
>>96464734Yeah. I understand what you are saying. The lorefags in this hobby can be unpleasant, but I don't think anyone else was pretending that Black Library was good. I think most people in the hobby are generally well read enough to know better.
>>96464762Faith Powers are not always good or kind. Remember the fate of the saint child in the Dark Imperium series? Or what happened to the Humble Saints? Or the poor saint guy that the Imperials in Nihilus used as a lighthouse, making him suffer immense pain.Faith and miracles being explained defeats the point of faith and miracles. I am glad GW corrected their lore.
>>96464764>No. I am not.Yes, you are.>states thatno, it doesn't, you're once again misreporting your shit and ignoring everything else that's long been established about it
>>96464781I am.Sadly, you are too obsessed with your fanfiction.Don't worry. GW will continue to write that faith =/= Warp.
>>96464780>Faith and miracles being explained defeats the point of faith and miraclesSounds like pathetic god botherer cope to me. The 40k setting is meant to show that life under a theocracy is the worst kind of life since everythings run by the deluded and the mad.The Emperor is a militant atheist burning out all organised faiths during the good old days of the great crusade for a reason
>>96464762Anon, 40k has been heroic fantasy capeshit since 2017, when they revived Guilliman. This is just them doubling down and instead of making faith powers the psychic byproduct of a malevolent warp entity claiming to be the Emperor, they've copped out and made it miracle superpowers with no grimdark undercurrent at all. "If I believe hard enough and have the power of friendship, I can BELIIIEEEEVE superpowers into existence!" Rest assured, they will be making a joytoy of Stern in the next few years once she gets a model. Grimdark simply doesn't sell, capeshit does.
Heat Axes
>>96464794Surrender your hard drive Chaos creep
Where do the Eldar gods figure into the whole faith/warp stuff?Were they even actual Gods?
Okay, but why does Faith in the Greater Good create a Warp God instead of miracles?
>>96464810Because Black Library are hacks
>>96464790>GW will continue to write that faith =/= WarpBut it's not written that anywhere, you're once again seeing rain and calling it not water because a dam was set up to stop water.
>>96464807The Eldar are Psykers so their belief manifests directly for them. You don't need to have faith when your desires produce consistent and tangible results.
To add to the discussion, here is Tau and their allies discussing Faith Powers:>‘I am not sure it works like that, Groundbreaker.’ The ace steerswoman Kor’vre Dagashei, shorter than most of her willowy kind but still head and shoulders taller than Bel’gai, made the parting-fingers gesture of the broken theorem. ‘I encountered this specific form of mind-science at Mu’galath Bay. It has more to do with confidence than with any genetic predisposition, I believe. Unlike the genetic version of the mind-quirk, it can wax and it can wane, for it is not innate. Is that not correct, Kindred Soul?’>Bel’gai’s eyes fixed on the nicassar known as Ghorale, the white-limbed, ursine creature afloat in its personal hoversphere. Every elemental council had a delegate from a vassal race as part of its number, and the nicassar were commonly sought for their wisdom in matters esoteric.>‘No psychic,’ replied the alien, his words a low growl. ‘No genetic. It come heart. It come spirit.’At this he tapped his chest with a curving claw the length of a bonding knife. Though the nicassar were so psychic they rarely used physical force, Bel’gai had no doubt Ghorale could disembowel a gue’ron’sha Space Marine with a single swipe.>‘Cannot be counted,’ the Kindred Soul finished, shaking his head amidst a flurry of bubbles.>‘Everything can be counted, if you find the right measure for it,’ said Groundbreaker. ‘Even this this phenomenon of faith. I have taken the liberty of categorising the events viewed thus far into five strata. We have seen several different severities of anomaly, the greatest of which were manifest during the capture of your current subject, Por’vre Bel’gai. We of the fio eagerly await your unlocking of the source of her power.’ He made the gesture of the hidden key, turning two fingers in the air. ‘Can it be done with words alone, do you think? Or do you need more… practical assistance?’
>>96464790You started out with the conclusion that faith doesn't equal warp stuff and worked your way backwards because you're a Christcuck attempting to shove his theology into 40k. GTFO
>>96464816So they were just daemons, not actual Gods?
>>96464794Lmao trying too hard.
>>96464814You being deluded is your cross to bear.>>96464810It does generate miracles as shown in Shadowsun's novel.The goddess was born from the reflection of the nobility of the Tau in the eyes and minds of their allies.
>>96463330I painted up a disco lord. Pretty cool model.
>>96464810Because GW wants to shit on Rick Priestley's legacy and bury it with slop
>>96464802What if I paint them as power axes?What's special rule-wise about plasma melee weapons?
>>96464831Your conclusions violate the sanctity of Rick Priestley's original writings in Realms of Chaos. You are a blasphemer, a tourist and a blight, with no respect towards those who created this setting! Leave this hobby.
>>96464821No. I am following the lore.You materialized an ad hoc rationalization that faith = Warp.See >>96464817The idea of Faith Powers is that they are beyond understanding. They cannot be explained. They are not genetic like psychic powers. They *miraculously* appear.
>>96464807Eldar 'gods' are just Greater Daemons of the Chaos Gods that the Old Ones put new clothes on. Most came from Slaanesh, but Khaine is from Khorne, Isha is from Nurgle, and Cegorach is from Tzeentch.
>>96464833>>96464844No.By the way, Rick once said that he doesn't follow modern 40K since he won't stop himself from going "That's not how it's supposed to work" every few sentences.As we are discussing modern 40K, Rick is irrelevant.
>>96464585I remember there was a point in time when they were value enough to see whole armies spamming themThink they had rings that fired lascannons shots or something
>>96464859You picked, or rolled I've forgotten too, a weapon.They had lascannons. multimeltas, flamers and some others.They were basically Oblits plus they buffed the unit they were in with a random upgrade to their gunsA great unit because it's just goofy fun
It seems we've been derailed into arguing the metaphysics of a setting which retconned its entire metaphysics.
>>96463726I think those are entirely cosmetic as of this edition, they have no weapon options nowI'd go with power cable and scope personally
>>96464875Better than the discordtranny spam about terrain.
>>96464807eldar orks and humans are 3 iterations of the old ones working with ways to tap into the immaterialthe eldar do not have genuine faith, they know their gods exist and revere them, but that's not a belief, it's a knowledge, everything they do is ritualised but underneath it all everything is consciously rationalised, as a race they're very attuned to conscious immaterial manipulation and almost that kind of manipulation alonebut one could say that without genuine faith, they're no real masters of their own destinies and instead have a fatalistic outlook to their existence orks are a polar opposite, there's barely anything conscious about it, they do stuff because they believe it works, not because they know it works, so much so that you could say they don't have a real understanding of the difference between a belief and an info, they're designed to subconsciously tap into the immaterial and get a very specific resultbut without proper conscious effort the orks too are locked into a cycle or a spiraland then come humans, a perhaps lucky hit of the sweetspot between conscious free will and ability to chart a goal, and a dose of that good old zealous ignorance that in warhammer can literally help in achieving the impossible by believing hard enoughI am definitely reading too much into the accidental fluff accumulated over the years, but it's a functional headcanon for me
>>96464886Solid breakdown chief
>>96464858Rick himself didn’t know how the setting worked when he was still working
>>96464883I guess, not by much tho
>>96464886This is very good headcanon. I choose to integrate it into my own.
I wish there was a game where you could play as a cryptek
>>96464858>we are discussing modern 40KYou are doing that, which is a shame, because we could all be talking about a cooler version of the setting if you didn't keep citing new shit made by retards.
>>96464920>cooler version of the settingHe already said he’s talking about the modern version of 40K
>>96464847>They cannot be explainedso you cannot rule out them being warpstuff either
>Faith =/= Warp powerBut how does the big fifth Chaos God with a yellow colour scheme fit into this? A divinity in the Warp characterised by yellow, a king in Yellow if you will
>>96464945I can because the text says it's not from there.
>>96464983the king in the yellow plotline is a nothingburger for homo heresy fagshere's the real yellow demon
>>96464912Mechanicus 2?Dawn of War 4 (maybe)
>>96464997So you can't, because the text doesn't say that.
>>96464998I hate the horus heresy with a burning passion but pulling ricky retardo out is a real "pot calling the kettle a nigger" moment
>>96464998The King in Yellow title Abnett took has no deeper meaning or plan other than being a cool title for Valdor. He's been writing slop for a while now, I can't think of an interesting or good idea thats come from him in a while
>>96464858HERETIC!!! YOU BLASPHEME HIS NAME!!! YOU SPIT UPON KINO, YOU RAISE UP THE UNHOLY ROUNTREE AND HIS TERRIBLE FLOCK OF DEMONIC HERALDS, ARRIVED TO TURN KINO INTO MAINSTREAM SLOP! YOU SEEK FOR 40K TO BECOME WORLD WAR TWO IN SPACE!
>>96464983You're a fucking retard and clearly have not read The End and The Death. All the details about the fifth chaos god are contained therein.
>>96465054The king of darkness or whatever gay ass name they gave for the Emperor if he became a chaos god is fucking gay and I will never read the HH slop or see it as a canon
>>96465039Abnett is like having a neighbor who lets their dog shit in your yard for 20 years.
>>96465063Abnett wrote it, and he also wrote the same king in yellow you cite as being the fifth chaos god in 40k.
>>96465016I can.The image has already been posted.
>>96465054>All the details about the fifth chaos god are contained therein.>ctrl+f "rat">0 results
>>96465068Ah you misunderstod/I didn't explain myself properly. I want a fifth yellow chaos god so the primary colour wheel is covered. This has no relations to the dumb and bad Valdor plot line
>>96465073>he didn't read about the mention of Kweethul Gristlegut, implying chaos is multiversalSubstantial portions of The End and The Death are pulled directly from the original Realms of Chaos books, anon.
>>96465082>I want a fifth yellow chaos god so the primary colour wheel is coveredBased
>>96465082>so the primary colour wheel is coveredunfortunately for you, colors don't work like that and slaanesh already throw everything out of whack in that sense anyway.
>>96465082I remember in the 50k fanfic when the Emperor was made a chaos god and given a yellow color palette. Ah, good times, before the coming of 8th and capeshit slop.
This "lore" shit is sad.
>>96465099>unfortunately for you, colors (sic) don't work likeFuck off yes they do, we have blue, red, green and purple/pink. Yellow and orange are the most notable other colours we're missing. Khorne is also kinda orange since hes big into brass/bronze so thats leaves yellow. I want a yellow chaos god
>lorefags
I love reading Lore arguments, screw the haters.
>>96465125Anon you are not getting a piss god
>>9646507340k happens then WHFB happens then AoS happensSlaanesh is born in 40kHorned Rat is a later joinerLeman Russ is Ulric
>>96465125Have you once considered that the Dark King could be yellow, considering that the other chaos gods are described as "dark" despite not literally being colored black?
>>96465129>compfags
>>96465187My games look cooler than that dweebos
>>96465125>Fuck off yes they doNo, they don't You cannot balance the chaos gods on a color wheel, most traditional colour wheels don't even properly represent the distribution of colours on the visible spectrum
>>96465170>Have you once considered that the Dark KingDark King is a nothingburger plot point from a nothingburger book series that went nowhere.
>>96465167No, fantasy happens 60 millions years before 40k because in there the old ones have disappeared only 10k years prior, while they disappeared in 40k 60 millions years ago.>that's dumbcorrect, the real answer is time travel
You know, it would make the most sense if Khorne, Nurgle, and Tzeench actually ARE the great old ones who were changed by the turmoil in the warp from the War in Heaven and Slaanesh's ascension was just another of them rising up from their first creation.
>>96465205Don't bring science, fact, logic and reason to my fluff for little figures I war with anon. >>96465170Sure and the Emperors love of gold could be a fun version of a yellow chaos gods 'yellow' colouring. A tarnished golden realm with golden armoured demons like custodes/ SoS etc. However the Emperor is explicity not a chaos god because the setting wouldnt work if he was. I want a fifth yellow chaos god on par with the big 4
>>96465216>implying they're the same old ones
>>96465212Did you forget that the name of the Chaos God changed from the Dark King into the Despoiler?
What are the chances that Necrons get a Christmas Battleforce when they got one in 2024? GW seems to like them, no?
>>96465250Tau are supposedly the token xenos for Christmas
>>96465237They're explicitly the same old ones
>>96465255Didn't they get one last year too?
>>96465250According to rumour we have>SM>Nidzilla>Farsight Tau>CSMLast one could be EC or Necron. Place your bet.
I think gsc might be due for a Christmas box
>IF detachment isn't bad Anvil> It's bad 1st company taskforceKek
>>96465203Anon...
>>96463330
>>96465244>GW retconning shit means it means somethingIt's a nothingburger and always will be. Just like Ynnead.
>>96465236>it wouldn't work if he wasWhy not? All that's required of him to keep the setting working is for his corpse to stay on the Golden Throne acting as a psychic lighthouse battery.
>>96465309>compfags
>>96465326>when taufags jump over to IKDisgusting....
>>96465317It's from within the same novel!It's not retconning if its from the same book!
>>96465301Its using cover to avoid enemy attacks you know...one of the most basic military defensive tactics known to history.
>>96465301It probably has indirect fire or some shit
Can't wait to upgrade my boy
>>96465377>Can't wait to upgrade my boy2026
>>96465375That would need to be extremely short ranged indirect fire.
>>96465385prob early next year
>>96463793Not yours, you've already admitted to having no models during your t-sports spam tirades
>>96465326Is this some sort of time limited build and play random tourney? I don't actually believe someone or multiple people would bring unfinished models like that to a real game.
>>96465377>nightbringer is making a onions face>deciever is making a chad handsome grinit's obvious which c'tan is reddit
>>96465446>replying to 4 hour old baitfor what purpose
>>96465480Sorry officer, can you let me off with a warning?
>>96465505No, you have to post a miniature you painted as penance
PSA: I'm shitting.
>>96465513It would be an honor
>>96465526fuck, I walked right into that
>>96465513I'm not the mutant, ignore that other post
>>96465526
>>96465532Much too late my sweet child of chaos
>>96465532well, where's your mini then
>>96465553>Crickets
>>96465553
>>96465601>No paint on thumbnail
>>96465601Nice dude so far. All right mister, you're free to go.
>>96465604Ah, you're just seething about everybody calling you a retard for thinking nobody but slobs wipe off excess paint on their handsAgain
>>96465614>Mold line on sword hilt Grim
>>96465601Nice paint job but that mold line on the hilt is very noticeable.
>>96465601I need a finer paint brush so I can paint leather like that
>>96465637I use a size 2 for my scratches, it holds a great point and you can load it with paint without it spilling out of control
>>96465526Damn that is a huge commitment but great job. Where do you get the different heads for your Knights?>>96465601Quality work anon and no one can see that mold line from any distance.
>>96465687ty, they are from Iron Wolf Minis
>>96465753>>96465753>>96465753
>>96465519yes in this thread with each and every one of your posts
>>96465631>>96465633Nobody cares bwo
>>96465714Faggot
>>96463726this makes me wana dig through my old sprues to find those scopes and put them on my blue option builds, lol
