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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: How do you feel about Edge of Eternities? Flavor? Mechanics? What cards from it did you add to your decks?
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>>96476150
>gay bolas
Op u fucked up
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What custom basics have you proxied?
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>tq
warp and station are cool mechanics that are fun to play with
the set's flavour is so utterly generic it's kind of amazing in its own way.
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>>96476150
>TQ
I'm a huge sucker for the sci-fi angle, but I wish they had more Sliver/Eldrazi stuff in them to fit the alien theme. I'm beyond butthurt they both only got a single new card.
>What cards from it did you add to your decks?
Anti-Casual for Eldrazi, the hivepool for Slivers, and Tannuk as a red/artifact commander. Stacking a deck up with shittons of giant golems and having Tannuk cheat them out is hilarious.
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>play thallia heretic cathar on turn 3
>random playing 5c space station scoops scoops next turn after i remind him that his fetch came in tapped
How did your last game go anons?
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>>96476195
does writing snow on basics count
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I love my new self-mill Eldrazi-skeleton-summoning waifu.

Syr Vondam is very cool, too.
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vren + rhystic study + removal
is that my whole deck
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>>96476248
>no abilities
So basically everything she summons is a big swing stick?
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Edge of Eternities was 3 years ago, this is the Lorwyn spoiler waiting room
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>>96476268
That's the idea. And a Corpses Of The Lost for skele-haste
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>>96476248
you talm about stank Syr Sir that didnt make it into my prerelease deck?
Just seems like the small mans Ketramose
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>>96476248
Running all the entomb cards seems like a no brainer, yeah? I've never touched self-mill but I can't see you being able to dump enough cards in monoblack to find big fatties fast enough to use it
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>>96476296
there is plenty of self mill in mono black. you also have the option to unleash the horrors of discard on your pod
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>>96476268
until you blink it, then you just get the entire critter
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>>96476268
it'd be a shame if there was a1 mana 13/13 in your graveyard
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>>96476303
>unleash the horrors of discard on your pod
Self-discard, maybe. There are certain types of effects I'll never touch, discard is one of them, because I hate to be *that guy* that makes the game extremely unfun for everyone else
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>>96476312
>I hate to be *that guy*
Look at this dude not running a GAAIV deck with bullshit like Rhystic, Tithe, Propaganda, and so on with a shitton of Persistent Petitioners.
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>>96476150
>EOE
I'll let you know once it rotates out of standard
I'll say this, having just gained access to brothers war snd co im pretty meh on future product
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>>96476150
>EoE
I like it
>Flavor
I was skeptical of the concept but EoE delivered
>Mechanics
Does a good job of feeling like "vast space" and the limited format is cool so far.
>Cards to decks
Very nice of them to print Consult the Star Charts to fly right the fuck into my Verazol deck. I'm eyeing a handful of others
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>>96476351
Dude bro is sick ur dumb
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>>96476350
>with a shitton of Persistent Petitioners
This is funny because I have a Socrates deck with 36 of them. I'm fine with mill, but I don't run any of that other stuff
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>playtested deck two times, has 37 lands
>nothing but no landers, or just 1 or 2
>had to to mull to 5, twice

>sitting here, shuffling my deck, test drawing
>throw in the occasional pile shuffle in there
>extremly consistenly just 1 land in hand

what the actual fuck is this shit
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>>96476384
>37 lands
Found the problem.
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>>96476381
GAAIV (with a bunch of annoying stax) lets you relentlessly shit them out. You can also run Bruvac as your commander to have them mill 24 at a time too.
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>>96476392
the moment i add in 5 more i will have nothing but 7 landers
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>>96476150
>Gay Bolas
Op ur a hero
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>>96476384
Cut two cards for dfc lands and if that doesn't help then God hates you
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>>96476248
Holy based
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>>96476268
You scam them back to get abilities turned on.
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>can't find this sexy print of Universes Within Euron Greyjoy anywhere convenient
Why must I specifically be punished?
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>>96476195
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this card isn't even good but I feel like commanderfags will get mad at me for playing it against them
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>>96476603
What the actual fuck is that art.
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Name a more pushed tribe than dragons.
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>>96476615
Dinosaurs.
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>>96476603
>vehicles
You may as well be playing Elk tribal
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>>96476609
She cute
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>>96476603
I tried to play this and it was awful, although FF added another "fixed" smuggler's copter maybe I should try again
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why is there no WBG vehicles commander... I want lumbering worldwagon and greasefang in the same deck
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>>96476624
Very close second
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Slivers. Just not pushed recently.
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>>96476624
only correct answer, wasn't even a ral tribe until a few years ago and look at all the stuff they have
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>>96476150
>tq
I really like EoE, i like the spacecrafts, the flavor and mechanics. It's hard to believe is made by the same team who made Aetherdrift, also this set really would benefit having another block but whatever, jotc etc,etc
I brought both commander decks, i like them.
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>>96476609
It's her showcase art

>>96476625
to be fair I'd be running it as reanimator with actual busted shit like entomb
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>>96476587
>Why must I specifically be punished?
For being European. Sorry Anon, I don't make the rules
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>>96476669
>obviously AI
jesus christ people just can't help themselves
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>Umm I guess I'll bring back my Parhelion 2 from the graveyard and attack you for 13 since you are tapped out after playing your second land

How do >you respond without sounding mad
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>>96476150
>TQ
added a bunch of cards from it into my xenagos deck for the landfall subtheme and wasn't disappointed.
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>>96476150
>TQ: How do you feel about Edge of Eternities? Flavor? Mechanics? What cards from it did you add to your decks?

I think a space theme is alright. I did like the Mirrodon kind of futuristic shit, same with the Alara block, but the art overall has taken a huge slide since then, and I don't know much about it. I don't think I have any cards from it.
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>>96476195
>
because some of her art has this funny optical illusion which looks like a crease
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>>96476716
Wow that's so cool your deck got to do it's thing
Now mine gets to do it's thing!
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I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe. He single handedly won me the game tonight in my pod with my Gisela deck.

>turn two he comes down
>get the Darksteel Equipment on him
>he now never dies through several boardwipes, one from me
>throw down two different swords to be able to attack anyone with impunity
>True Conviction comes down
>World at War gets a rebound
>Gisela out for one turn (figures)

Took everyone out turns 9,10,11. Vigilance is just the best.
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>>96476716
you dont, had an early godhand with Parhelion 2 out early on turn 3 or 4, and a friend had a total crashout resulting in insta scooping - which of course meant the other players had to scoop too.
with an early Parhelion, you are still 3 entire turns/combats away of killing the first out of 3 opponents, there is plenty of time to at least try to figure something out.
The kicker is: there are Voltrons in our playgroup that take out a player, and the whole table even, quicker. one of which is even in the roster of the one that had the meltie
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>>96476776
Based and craw. I salute you, anon
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>>96476716
>"You look like you fuck human men"
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>>96476756
anon...
when Greasfang is out and able to recurr Parhelion, there is no need for lands on that side of the board
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>>96476826
Really? Cause from here it looks like its in hand not grave
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How do your rule 0 conversations go? Do you just say bracket and end it there?
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>>96476842
It creates 2 4/4 angels that remain in play.
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>>96476842
thats where discard outlets step in
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>>96476716
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *flicks cards* ummmmmmmmmmmm *checks hand* yeah that resolves... no wait.... no nevermind it still resolves
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>>96476858
I just say my decks a 7
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>>96476858
"I made this deck to use when I play with people for the first time"
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>>96476858
I typically say it's a bracket something .5 to be more specific. I'll talk about game changer amount, and things like infinite combo amounts stuff like that. I won't tell anyone what my deck does or how it wins. That's for them to find out.
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>>96476870
I hate players who constantly and loudly flick their cards. No etiquette.
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>>96476615
Zombies.
>>96476624
>>96476651
>>96476664
Dinosaurs are strong because they got a post FIRE set dedicated to them and a handful of good cards since then in other sets. If Dinosaurs are pushed then so are Insects and pirates because they got some recent sets and post-2020 cards too.

Zombies meanwhile have always been over supported and they continually get new cards ensuring they've remained relevant as power creep ratchets up.
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>>96476862
Not a threat
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Surely this has been discussed already, yeah??? Have any "pay life" outlet out to get to 0 life or less, flicker Mr Negative, another player dies
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>>96476981
Treasonous ogre?
This card is the first time im genuinely tempted by ub
What a shame
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Zoomers man...
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>>96477036
It's really wild how early cards are stuff like this, and meanwhile modern cards have ultra tiny font with 3 paragraphs.
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>>96477077
to be fair, you can only do so much with simple cards after decades releases
at some point complexity creep is all but guaranteed to happen just because they ran out of simple stuff to do
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built mono blue urza cause I hate having friends
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>>96477165
good morning anon nice to have you
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>>96477177
Has Toskianon ever said why he's posting in every thread? Idgi
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>>96476923
Everything you said about zombies also applies to dragons, but with the added caveat that dragons have a million legends with novella rule texts.
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>>96477223
Ritualposters don't follow such trivial things like "logic"
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>>96477223
he was saying "I'm putting toski and other staples in my deck it makes it do fun things" or something like that before just posting the image
I thought it was a statement against other people saying stuff like "staples suck and make all decks play the same"

there used to be someone with a message here, now we just hang his portrait up
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>>96477269
>we
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>>96477252
>>96477269
Ritualfags strike me as the type who got bullied in high school and never got over it.
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>>96476295
This guy was in my prerelease deck and he underperformed and sucked. Very underwhelming.
>TQ
All the green landfall shit is pretty good. Icetill and especially Horizon Explorer are MVPs in Tifa and Famished Worldsire is a nuke. Frenzied Baloth is also a nice word salad utility beatstick for only GG. The other colors and space stations have been pretty underwhelming but I really like Weapons Mnufacturing and am thinking of building a Sivriss/Street Urchin deck with it soon.

As for the flavor, they could have done better but overall I liked it.
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>>96477036
I'm an elder millenial, but I'm building a deck around her.
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>>96477318
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What's your highest average mana cost deck?
>4.3
>Teneb
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Does anyone remember this elf from Duels of the planewalkeds 2013?
I want to build a fun Yeva, Nature’s Herald deck that’s cheap. I don’t want to use craterhoof or some giga busted dinosaur or super power crept cards.

I want stuff Uktabi orangutan or Indrik stomphowler, eternal witness etc. Does anyone who pilots this girl have suggestions or pointers? I think I can make it very cheap for around $50 since I won’t be running green suns zenith or survival of the fittest or other really strong green “staples.” The mana base might just be 34!forests and some mana elves


Also is it possible to make a cute frog tribal deck, or ANY tribal deck outside the big tribes (goblins, dragons, zombies, soldiers, etc)? I think bloomburrow has some neat tribal interaction but there doesn’t seem to be any place where I can engage with it anymore.
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>>96476195
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>>96477417
I should also mention that since CHB won’t be my finisher, I’ll run cheaper substitutes like overrun or overwhelming stampede or Garruk
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>>96477417
>cute frog tribal deck
nah we only got big ugly frogs here
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>>96477385
David Dastmalchian?
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>>96477443
yes
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I like this art
That is all
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>>96476195
If you play proxies I will not recognize them and will ignore them. If you complain I will tear up your proxies and tell you to blow it out your ass.
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>>96477456
I have a response.
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Neat
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I like this card
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>>96477473
I miss when the bottom said the number of cards in the set
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>>96477473
How many other art references/tributes are there? This is neat as hell
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>>96477452
>only a silhouette
Unsure if this is cowardice or Hasbro trying to sell me the OG misery porn with an alt. art premium
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>>96477497
It's an artistic choice and the primary reason I like the art. If it wasn't that then I wouldn't like it much
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96477501
It's ok, you're allowed to be wrong. I like it too but want the gut-punch aftermath monologue immortalised in a card, too
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>>96477385
>>96477318
why are you posting his face
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>>96477385
good job losing weight swordfag, proud of you
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>>96477452
Seinkiewicz is great. I hope he has art on a legendary and not just sagas.
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Brand new, bought a precon and heading to lgs for the first time. I'm fine with chatting to new people but how do I lessen the awkwardness of having to ask for a game?
The current plan was just to approach a group and ask if they need a 4th but I don't know what to do if I get rejected, just sit on my phone alone? What if there's a group already playing and nobody else around? I'm probably stressing out about this way too much
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Does Omega, Heartless Evolution heal X for each opponent, or only once?
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Who wins in a 1v1?
Gay Bolas anon or Swordbro?
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>>96476923
How are zombies good? Genuinely don't know as I haven't seen them in a bit. All I know they can do is dump out some tokens and get some basic antheming. What shenanigans are they capable of?
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>>96477659
what? legitimately use your mental energy on anything else.

> you guys looking for a fourth?
>we have someone coming
>kk
>chill and wait or leave

How old are you? I'm being serious, no one gives a shit.
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>>96477696
What you described was basically my plan I just wanted some advice on making it less awkward to sit around on my phone while waiting for someone else to show up.
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>>96477497
The alt art is significantly worse.
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>>96477662
>Put X stun counters on each of those permanents and you gain X life
you only gain X. if you were meant to gain X for each targeted creature, it would be "for each of those permanents, put X stun counters on it and gain X life"
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This is the most underpowered set of the past decade
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>>96477746
Good? Power creep ruins the game.
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>>96477752
You have to ban all sets before Spider-Man for that to matter. Releasing sets that are garbage will just result in people not using those sets. Standard is not going to suddenly be depowered from this shit set. It's just not going to use cards from it and Vivi will continue to rule.
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>>96477731
Zoomers
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>>96477696
Dumb post. Don't respond next time.
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>hate multiverse shit
>hate comic shit
>hate miles morales and all non peter parker spidermen
>sealed
>what kind of deck did you go? I went golgari spiderman, and he went azorious spiderman, then I went green spiderman


Why can't US comics just have one storyline and be done with it. it's just constant rehashing.
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>>96477758
They should instead just continue releasing lower power sets and let other things cycle out of use so the game can go back to some semblance of normal.
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>>96477468
I can't argue with that.
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>>96477662
Only the amount of differently named lands. If you flicker him or copy him you get enough life to make chewing through really annoying for your opponents but it's not the main point of the effect.
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>>96477746
Yeah, most cards are really, really bad. Threre's some decent ones here and there but overall they really pulled their punches on this one
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>>96477789
>Rotate out
This is the edh thread
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>>96477810
Is that flippin Universes beyond?!?!?!?!??!?!//
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>>96477789
Anon that's not financially plausible. Releasing ONE underpowered set after an OP set (Masques, OG Kamigawa) is already financially disastrous. It's suicidal to intentionally release duds for over two years in a row because you're both causing the meta to stagnate AND not moving any cards off the shelf in that time.

This is literally why Type 2 ended up failing at the goal it set out to accomplish. Sure you're no longer competing against the design mistakes from the start of the game's lifespan anymore, but you're still perpetually competing against the strongest cards from the last set.
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>>96477831
yeah, i think that weird monk guy is one of those Avatar cards, dunno how bro got his hand on it before release, though.
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>>96477696
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>>96477805
Who mentioned standard? Wasn't me, it was the guy I was responding to.
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>>96477783
>Why can't US comics just have one storyline and be done with it. it's just constant rehashing.
Why can't TCGs just have one release and be done with it. it's just constant rehashing
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Just realized that if you cast a permanent spell from exile this puts two +1/+1 counters on your entire board. Seems pretty damn good. Still wish they'd print a jund legend that cares about casting from exile though
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>>96477925
why can't JP manga just have one storyline and be done with it. it's either cancelled in the middle or does so well they need it to rehash the same plot for 30 years.
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>>96477938
Jesus christ as if flicker decks need another busted as fuck strategy. GodDAMN
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>>96477783
Western comics, specifically cape comics, are more like fanfiction. They're fan interpretations of old characters whose creators have passed on.
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>>96477938
Nah, not quite.
When you cast a spell, you put it on the stack, which is a separate zone.
So the permanent card you cast from exile would be entering from the stack, rather than from exile.

It's also better with flicker than with casting exiled, since when you flicker the creature entering will also get a counter, but when you cast something from exile only the things already on the board will get counters.
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>Vigilance, lifelink
>When Mr. Negative enters, you may exchange your life total with target opponent. If you lose life this way, draw that many cards.
Neat effect. But the absurd mana cost makes him feel like the face card for a starter deck from 2012
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>>96477938
Thieves' Auction.
That is all.
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>>96477925
What's this Reddit-tier response? Anon's complaining about rehashes, not continuations. If you want to bitch about shit like Jumpstart, sure, but who is going to argue against you on that?
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>>96477997
You lost.
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>>96478003
>Faggot tries to coopt /pol/ meme
>Doesn't even do it right
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>>96477997
People like character. Writers write stories with character. Eventually too many stories. Character splits or timeline resets because people still like character. Its not confusing. People like the property, so they continue making it.
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>>96478007
>Character splits or timeline resets because people still like character
You just defeated your own argument.
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>>96478005
>/pol/ meme
Huh?
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>>96478011
Don't think I did as the character is still being put in stories that people still enjoy. Youre arguing against reality.
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>>96478013
>Don't think I did
Of course you didn't, you're retarded.
You're saying that people like a character, so they're going to like the character's development getting erased or otherwise characters that aren't said character. It's stupid - you're talking about Spider-Man as if anyone likes OMD or that people are reading the spinoff characters. They're not - people like Peter Parker. They like iterations of his story. Nobody gives a crap about the Amazing Wheelchair Bitch or whatever.
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>>96478026
>why do so many stories be made
>because people like the character!
>waaaaahh
Again, there is no argument. Comics are the way they are because people like the characters. It doesnt have to make sense to your autismo brain
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>>96477663
GBA solos everything.
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>>96477417
Vedalken orrery and Vivien, champion of the wilds can serve as redundancies for Yeva. Temur sabertooth will be an all star for reusing ETB effects and retriggering creature based draw effects like soul of the harvest and elemental bond. While using ETB creatures like instant speed spells will be the main gimmick it still helps to have some mana sinks (Kamahl, Nemata, and ant queen were some options I used before) or a way to bank mana like with Omnath.
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>>96477938
>WBR gets a flicker commander before WBU
really?
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>>96478077
Aminatou
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>>96478082
sybau



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