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Punchardt's card.
Did the Magocracy update get any builds? I tried to make one back when it released, but it felt like a chore, so I quit (around when you start assigning characters to missions).
>>96487529It got a few builds but not many.
>>96487961Bite, obviouslyDisease CloudLeer
>>96488003that's the meta build
I have a good feeling about this thread. I can't quite articulate it yet, but we'll soon find out why.
>>96488087sweat healvomit wildfiresemen mutatesemen ambrosiasweat reanimateurine misfortune
>>96488101pure fisher king is still the best
>>96488110I don't remember the exact contents, but iirc Fish King would've been my 2nd choice after Forbidden City.
>>96488105>one to one connections onlyyou choose semen and sweat 2 times
>>96488145Yes, because I spent too long reading it, forced myself to push Post before the 1 minute timer was over, per the rules. The consequences, however monstrous, will be on both me and the wizard
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information>Chronological Build ListA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479399Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480941Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96467167Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447556Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479706Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399427Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248
>>96488576Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422
>>96488586Avi - Demonic Dragon Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96446382The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816The White Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966Ars Goetia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96461924Thaumaradrak https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96468757/#96471990Valar https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96471461Prince Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96477816Rap God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479391Common Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480067Alfrent (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480079Aera https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482056Illior of the Doria (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482585Godslayer Punchardt https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96487671Lady, the Academy Meister https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96485991
>>96488101>>96488110>>96488118Pure Nakama is obviously the best.
>>96488101Godking for me.
Spirit Conscript era was better.
>>96488674No. But it was good too.
>>96488674Yokai sucks.
>>96488576Wait, is the encounter from Red Goo Spako's reanimated flesh? It certainly makes sense.Any hint where her reanimated half shattered corpse is?
>>96488733You mean her bones, and no. You just have her ghost and her meat, if you want zombie Spako you'll need to follow the clues from the red goo to whoever did that.
>>96488797Spako deserves better than this; let my boy Sigard Az her Yat
>>96488674Its sad how it got killed prematurely. We were having so much fun.
>>96488633>gradually losing people you care about and love until you are all aloneare you a sufferfag?
>>96488797ngl Spako is way more useful as an invisible ghost than a rotten zombie.
2 hours left.Once again I wasted a lot of time.It will be very close. I won't get to do any real testing and readjustment, which is crucial for roll tables.But at least, it's structured so that I can pick it up later and fix it without much trouble, unlike the Ersatz Reincarnation RYOA which was structurally troublesome to begin with.
>>96488674agreed.
>>96488674yes...yes it was>>96488841>RYOAget that shit outta here
>>96488576Erginter's biggest mistake: not Icon of Icons maxxing. Hunting for gifts is for amateurs. If she instead played the part of a saint, she would have been thousands times more powerful. The path of good is the path of power.
>>96488839But we could cuddleShe's so precious, how could you not want the best
>>96488841GANBATTTTEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
>>96488860False. The path of power is time-traveling warmachina.
>>96488839But she wants to be a zombie, so think of her feelings.
>>96488860Your dad Pantorai would have been very disappointed in you if he was still alive and heard that you are being mean to your mom.
>>96488860Sovlless powerfags like Erginter can't hopemaxx. It would have been a waste of 5 points.
>>96488839I do think having the level headed and loved reagent come back can be useful to bring some stability to the empire.Now that I think about, nothing is stopping you from finding any member of the burou and tell them that Hladvig is poisoning the emperor through a tenebrae assassin as soon as you are able to.
>>96488920>Sovlless powerfagsPushing the setting to its limit is peak Meaning.
>>96488874>>96488893I hear you anons. I too want her to be happy, unfortunately that will have to wait until after we beat Charlie and unite humanity.
>>96488920Hm.Are athletes soulless? I see Erginter as an athlete.
>>96488674shame that 4chan had to kill it by not allowing PDFs anymore>creating custom companions with harem modegay or based?https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8
>>96488928No, Meaningless faggot. Only MY type of story has merit. Only MY way has Meaning. You will build like I want you to and you will like it.
>>96488944gay if your build is a shopping list, take the available one or write a story where your build befriend oc.
>>96488922You'd have to get them to trust you. Easiest way to do that is Sonya and time though, and there's no guarantee you'll meet her before Iwnn's death.
>>96488959>>96488928Stop falseflagging as each other.
>>96489007Careful there, powersissies are known to screech loudly if you poke them.
If you're not supposed to powergame, then why are there intentional exploits?
>>96488733Unusual skeleton mentioned in Leif parenthood, so maybe it's it.
>>96489005The problem with taking Sonya is that triple witchshot is too overpowered. For me it’s no fun imagining the story if one of your companions could just kill 0^0 at the start.
>>96488860She might not have had access to Icon of Icons.
>>96488920Excuse you, my mother saved the world from a falsely ascended demon lord at the cost of her own life.
>>96488036a single cat would just terrify both dogs, chase them away, and then eat the fish
>>96489029Also>This shall be your first and final commandment: do what thou wilt
>>96489086Your whore of a mother killed Yphont and allowed the Uruks to plague the world again, killed Inga so she couldn't work to stop the Nightmare, and has shit genes.
>>96489029The only thing stopping me from powergaming is my deep desire to NOT be a Dark Elf.
>>96489110Man imagine how much better the world would be if Inga had been the real 8th Outsider.
>>96489110No one disputes that mom made mistakes in her youth, but Inga was a tyrant and a usurper. She got off easy.
>>96489117>Dark ElfI'm still not sure why they bother having sex
>>96489130Inga was just a regular ruler doing regular ruler things. She did nothing wrong.
>>96489132They could get off on the dominance of raping their slaves even if they don't feel physical pleasure.
>>96489117Human and Dwarf both give more points worth of stuff than Dark Elf
>>96489144they're literally me
>>96489143Shout that as loud as you can in New Times Square; I'm sure it'll go well
>>96488983all shopping list builds are shit anon, there is no need to reiterate what most of us already know
>>96488674nah
>>96489156The two best dads to Misalliance are Dark Elves.
Did tank give an ETA for this?
>>96489122There's nothing stopping you from believing the "there were two outsiders for the 8th Seat and Inga took Az" theory. Surely Tankista just left her out of the Outsiders page because it would be a spoiler.
>>96489269Never. Ever.
>>96488576Almost done finishing up the last bits of that Curse Gunslinger I had. Decided to grab Grim Outlook x3 to put Maladies into the mix and make the negative effects of the Death Letters more prominent and faster acting similar to the difference between Evil Eye and Evil Eye x2. The only thing I got left is deciding which Mentor to Untimeskip. I'm torn between Natalja to become a mathemagician right out the gate and being able to practice it in my childhood with Achaxe who I dice fudged into my adoptive mother, or on Charlotte so I can immediately have Word of God on hand and start setting things into motion to pay off years in the future.
It's canon that Ecumene Empyreans start crying and shaking when they see mighty Uruk warriors.
>>96489301>Charlotte patron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw1h leftI was too optimistic to say just playtesting won't have enough time - one entire roll table will be halfassed. But the substantial parts will be there.
>>96489317WOG just seemed better over DEM. My build could easily swap between either due to not taking anything but Deus Ex Machina is reliant on [YMRD]'s presence, and even though I have stuff like Devout Signature to get it easier, having an innate understanding of a technique that will perform a similar role in my build to proc the effects of the Grim Outlook Bullets seems like a better move. Plus with Tsifra it just seems to all flow better together as the effects go hand in hand for defining the world and forcing a single outcome.
>>96488860this bitch looks so stupid lol
>>96489317Its worth it if you dice fudge her into a companion, not sure if he's gonna go for that though
>>9648894461 pages? Good grief.
>>96489400It is totally worth it if you just steal a bootleg version of her special revelation through Dirk with Shta, never actually meeting her.
>>96489036Oh, good catch. And from those descriptions and Hrleva sheet it seems to have been someone from her kingdom that did it under Hladvig and pandemonium most likely. It all comes back to the Tumen it seems.
>>96489411cute newfag, it was divided in 6 pdf files and 1 lore pdf 37 pages long
>>96489400Don't they already act as a companion when you Untimeskip them? Unless the Mentor in question will be instead treated as a companion means otherwise.
>>96489400Readlet-kun...
>>96489400You can't Dice Fudge her anon and the Untimeskip trick most likely just causes her to not appear at all.
>>96489428Personally I wouldn't want to bet on a bootleg version even if it was boosted by Shta. When messing with casuality, I'd rather know I have accurate knowledge from the source rather than a well defined summary from a secondary. Plus I can Shta Natalja instead.Actually I don't even think you can Shta Dirk cause he has a B slot right? So even more reason not to try and skirt around having to pay for Charlotte's teachings.
>>96489455Companions are fated to meet you and interact with you meaningfully ("be drawn towards your story and envelop you with their own"), and untimeskip makes her a companion. So it will definitely do something.Probably looks more like Nilmatrix tham something friendly, tho
>>96489458>Actually I don't even think you can Shta Dirk cause he has a B slot right?Yes, you are right. Guess my build was slightly illegal after all.As for summary vs original, no one says you can't develop it further yourself, Charles certainly did that. It may be harder, but avoids the risk of meeting her personally and giving a very irritated false godess an opening.
>>96489269
>>96489489
What do you think were original limitations for the Archdrakodaemon's trick (without the letter)?
>>96489506Who?
>>96489484>Probably looks more like Nilmatrix tham something friendly, thoI think Tank confirmed or implied it depends on what else you pick. You can get her to play along as your reluctant buddy and even redeem her if you don't antagonize her. You can also get her to pull a Nilmatrix if you piss her off somehow, and she will probably be digging for information the entire time.
>>96489506Either she had a limited number of slots or each gift was lessened in effectiveness.
>>96489512Erginter's mentor.
>>96489506It was probably meant to be similar to what Tenyota can teach you, except you could use it on other people's gifts.
>>96489485I'd rather start with the full info and be able to innovate from there then have to spend time perfecting the craft. Not like anyone can even tell you when its done, since it's Charlotte's technique created from her experiences as an Outsider. Its not so easy as spending a few years experimenting when its pretty much more of a philosophy or world view than a direct technique from how its described.
>>96488576It's over, moon-anons
>>96489572Not in the cyoa, doesn't matter. Until he updates the cyoa, the moon portal is valid.
>>96489572But portals to the moon already exist? Vtorusha made them.
>>96489572Don't worry, I'll be getting there manually
>Omega should have most if not all of the same gifts her Mother hadOmega stocks are soaring, buy now.
>>96489602Charlotte doesn't have Thoroughbreeding.
>>96489598Pretty sure she used warmachina with either rockets or specialized movement abilities (maybe Flowing Gait x3), not portals
>>96488576>Uruks can pick Thoroughbreeding>Uruks can reproduce
>>96489628You still don't have a penis Urukbro
>>96489628well it'd only work if you're doing it the traditional way, and that just raises questions on if Uruks have the proper equipment considering they sorta just spawn themselves from the earth. Cause Thoroughbreeding doesn't work when you just sculpt new Uruk from the ground, same way it doesn't work on Daemonhost Majins.
>>96489628...So all Uruks you create manually have all your Gifts? That might be the key to sentience if you have mental augments.
>>96488880donenot really done but there's 2 minutes left and i again got a lot less done, fuck time management
>>96489643Uruk's you make inherit shit from you, just like Majin created through Daemonhost don't get all your gifts. You need to BREED to pass those on. Playing around with mud(dish) doesn't count.
>>96489649I will heavily revamp this tomorrow. But for now I consider myself out of my >>96485664 obligation and won't take the penalty.
Rolled 66, 78, 180, 122, 23 = 469 (5d200)>>96489649SRTR BLESS ME! PLEASE!
Rolled 83, 170, 127, 170, 151, 35, 19, 17, 194, 13, 50, 129, 187, 112, 65 = 1522 (15d200)>>96489669Not sure if I rolled well or not yet
Rolled 106, 41, 32, 159, 171 = 509 (5d200)>>96489649rh'ollor
Rolled 80, 48, 104, 29, 68, 70, 93, 190, 108, 174, 98, 111, 142, 43, 35, 70, 5, 27, 93, 192 = 1780 (20d200)>>96489649YMRD Take the wheel!With the blanks do we pick the option above below or choose?
>>96489669>>96489675All unusable, I keep getting blank rolls
Rolled 136, 54, 152, 4, 94 = 440 (5d200)>>96489649Here we go. Will YMRD bless the dice?
>>96489687Uh I should've clarified, "-" means the above keyword. Sofire---means all those slots are "fire"
>>96489611That’s a quote from Tankista.
>>96489690>136, 54, 152, 4, 94>Family of Hate Diminishes Directly>40...60 secondsA pacify spell for Vëe? Cute.
>>96489712Given the hostility from her rolled childhood it might be necessary.
>>96489602Me and her have almost identical gifts outside of what I can't buy and I DO have Thoroughbreeding so it doesn't actually improve much (outside of whatever lucky kid gets Hand of Infinity x3, or is born Empyrean) but it does mean her genes are top notch.
So, do we finally have OC are is the general still stroking a redditor author's cheap nostalgia update?
Rolled 105, 6, 34, 106, 136 = 387 (5d200)>>96489649
>>96489669Quill of Poison Thinks Methodically<10 secondswtf?
>>96489680>106, 41, 32, 159, 171>Justice of "Iotated Greater Yus" destroys, secretly.Takes 10..48 hours of pronunciation to cast.Iotated greater yus = 2 people merge to one.So it's a spell that secretly merges two people into one.How does that happen in secret? Perhaps the spell makes two people merge into a single averaged person so that nobody else can remember that they were 2 different people before.
>>96489728>spoonfeed me the answer to a question I could answer by scrolling upGo back
>>96489728Have a (You) my kind sir.
>>96489649>>96489731>Duty Yest' Destroys Lethally 10-30 minutesSo I give people a duty to destroy existence for 30 minutes? Makes them go berserk? Or else they have a duty to end their own existence within 30 minutes.
And that's why you follow the curated clerical phrases instead of creating your own spells.
>>96489781Inner Vision x1 fixes this
>>9648967583-Monster170-Flesh127-Stops170-Secretly151-30..120 minutesMonster of Flesh Stops Secretly35-Mouth19-The Letter R'tsy17-Harms194-Bluely13-<10 secondsMouth of "Rthsy" Harms Bluely50-Tentacle129-Air187-Reverses112-Methodically65-30..40 secondsTentacle of Air Reverses MethodicallyWhy's it 2 defense spells and a counterspell? Is SRTR trying to tell me something?
>>96489821>RthsyI'm dead, autocorrupt killed me
>>96489733I'll take a shot.>Quill of Poison Thinks Methodically>Quill of poison~ writing "poisonous" (socially destructive) writings, like Makariy (the ex-Tenebrae Father option who runs the printing press to create troubles).>thinks methodicallyquill thinks methodically ~ self-writing quill? And together with "poison":>The spell animates a quill, which will write malicious and effective slander about a target of your choice.
Rolled 8, 145, 51, 166, 73, 116, 164, 31, 64, 169, 34, 121, 135, 6, 31 = 1314 (15d200)>>964896490^0 bless me
>>96489686YMRD gave me exactly the options I wantedThanks YMRD80 Monster 48 Evil104 Transforms29 Directly68 30-40 secMonster of evil transforms directlyExactly what I needed, something to modify the uruk and experiment with new life70 power 93, order190, reverses108, Lovingly174, 2-10 daysthe Power of order, reverses lovinglyThe power of order is of course the power to control what people doIn reversing it, instead of spending power to make people do as I ask, I gain power when they intentionally do as I sayI use this in elaborate rituals, to give renewed meaning to my creations(As all magic effects including permanent ones run on meaning)98, revenge111, fire142, touches43, Directly35, 10-20 sec Revenge of fire touches directlyFIREBALL!70, power5, the letter dobro27, Harms93, Roughly192 1-10 yearsPower of the letter dobro harms roughlyDobro represents goodI guess this is an extremely effective banishing ritualAlthough I don't know when I will have the time to sit down and spend 1 year chanting to kill someone or something, it's always good to have a nuclear optionI could get 3 patient friends and cast this from a dungeon to SMITE an evildoer>>96489821>Flesh stops secretlyAnon you got remote heart attackBe happy about your ability to instakill
>>96489833>>96489844I somehow forgot this was all about interpretation
>>96489649Fun, I liked itAlthough it could probably do with a second ordering and more table thingsYou are officially my favourite dlc creator
>>96489844>I guess this is an extremely effective banishing ritual>Although I don't know when I will have the time to sit down and spend 1 year chanting to kill someone or something, it's always good to have a nuclear option>I could get 3 patient friends and cast this from a dungeon to SMITE an evildoerWhat's Charlie's plan when this guy spends 10 years chanting this to smite her? Also, if you took Lukag you could chant this once, then seal it into calligraphy.
>>96488920If being evil gives me more power, then I will be evil.If being good gives me more power, then I will be good.If Icon of Icons gives me 1000x power just by being loved by the people, then I will be a fucking saint.
Rolled 112, 58, 109, 56, 197, 168, 38, 191, 35, 152, 171, 128, 26, 190, 140 = 1771 (15d200)>>96489649Guess I'll try to make a magician build. YMRD GUIDE ME!
Has tankista ever said anything about the theoretical limits of Bleeding Heart Gesture?How much power can you store?
Rolled 59, 107, 72, 144, 14, 185, 57, 103, 48, 159, 137, 91, 11, 190, 68 = 1445 (15d200)>>96489649lets see what we're working with here
>>9648990011 demon lords could destroy a continentYou could force YMRD to reset the world
>>96489900Just start as pixie and blow yourself up every day for 80 years
>>96489915Pixie revival is the stupidest way to go about it. Wasting an entire day for pixie sized body damage, are you insane?The correct way is to create a long duration spell that constantly damages and heals you.
>>96489649>>96489910>Hair Shadow Protects Angrily <10 secondsInteresting. Maybe a quick defensive spell that uses hair? I'm envisioning a spiky black shell made out of shadow/hair. I dunno.>Betrayal Horror Transforms Directly 2-10 hoursPerhaps a complicated spell that causes those around the target to be temporarily taken over by nightmare monsters, which attack the target.>Family Crime Harms Mutually 30-40 secondscauses Keter to beat her wife mercilessly while the 11th watches
>>96489948But you can do it every evening for free. You don't even need any spell.
Second Wind specifically says that blood loss counts as harm. However, you cannot die due to blood loss while under the effects of second wind.Therefore, you can simply drain all the blood from your body, wait for your 10,000 heartbeats to pass, then do it again.
>>96489915>>96489955I think even a pixie parent would be horrified at you doing this.
Everlasting gives you auto regen.
Note that the Elder Gods give Everlasting to their favorites and Charlotte had it.
>>96489978She probably stole it
>>96489915Does it take that much to kill a fairy?You only store energy equivalent to the harm done to you. So if you blow yourself up as a fairy, you only store whatever harm it takes to kill a fairy. That's assuming you even keep it between deaths.>>96489978of course, she's SRTR's sock puppet villain for the 11th to btfo
Dead Sprint + treadmill + Bleeding Heart Gesture x2
>>96489990One blown up fairy should be equivalent to a big gunshot wound for a normal man. It's not that bad.
>>96490005You would probably get more mileage out of a drakonid's dragon transformation. Bigger body, more harm
>>96490009What if it means relative harm. Bigger body does not necessarily means more harm. Also does it count mental harm? Nilmatrix "world shattering betrayal" could create a lot of mental harm. Just imagine inflicting that on her in return.
>>96489317Gunjeets are not smart.
>>96489978One wanted to follow in the footsteps of his teacher.Vtorusha had it.Aat/Xian had it. Two times even.Savmak had it.Yphont's entire plan required Eternal Curse.Tuzik fell for JNPL's meme so hard that he died from old age far earlier than normal.Sarmat refused the offer.No one liked Erginter.Charlotte was 100% SRTR material before she changed. She had it.Keter was in the same position as we are. Her Empyreality is better anyway.
>Trolls were considered invincible before muskets>Greater warmachina were around before musketsMuskets are stronger than greater warmachina
>>96490087>Proper outsider guns were around before muskets. Therefore muskets > earth guns.>Also Uruk (troll) + bulletproof skin = invincible 0^0 slayer^ that's the kind of logic you get if you take the opinions of random mudhutter peasants at face value
>>96490075As you keep going for years, it becomes increasingly likely that one day you end up in a situation where it's unconscionable not to release the powerup to resolve the immediate problem. And then you're back to zero. This kind of fragility in a plan would make me uneasy.
>>96490075BasedLet them see what they have wrought
>>96490116It is a meme plan. Empyreans can simply resurrect.
>>96490116Autoantecedence, so using it only halves your gathered power instead of completely using it up?
Rolled 107, 69, 154, 139, 77 = 546 (5d200)>>96489649lets see
>>96490087How big are giants?
>>96490116Sometimes we have to make hard decisions, anon.Good, evil, it's a matter of perspective. Some would call the elder gods evil, for creating the characters that they do. But the villains in a story are just as important as the heroes.Is it really wrong to do what needs to be done?>>96490130Resurrect what?
>>96490161Smaller than trolls since they're Morlock victims
>>96490136>Life of Life Diminishes Peacefully>Pronunciation: 30-40 secondsPerfectly [JNPL] themed. I'd guess either a spell that removes pain or a spell that directly removes life from the target without any apparent violence.The former would be more obviously just and generally useful, while the latter would be more situationally useful.
Rolled 90, 21, 8, 5, 118, 134, 122, 122, 134, 142 = 896 (10d200)>>96490136>>96489649I forgot to count, but there is Meaning in that too. [JNPL] bless my rolls.
Rolled 188, 143, 21, 190, 15 = 557 (5d200)>>96489649ymrd, please give me spell of instant charlie killing
>>96490130You're not punching hard enough.
>>96488576Common Man is in Az world; he has no overlap.
>>96490203Sorry anon, but you're just not as cool as >>96489844
>>96490212He stopped putting people in Az so all the omnicompatible builds could go to other worlds
Rolled 140, 19, 170, 119, 160, 153, 142, 7, 36, 30, 111, 175, 140, 145, 73 = 1620 (15d200)>>96489649GOOOOO!!!
>>96490098Is it false though?
>>96490196>90, 21, 8, 5, 118>Fire of Tverdo Strikes Directly>Pronunciation: 2-4 minutes>Tverdo: Absolute statements and foregone conclusionsThat's not very [JNPL]>134, 122, 122, 134, 142>Children of Snow Burst Dangerously>Pronunciation: 10-30 minutesAn "explode child" spell? Not only does it only work on Northerners, it takes 10 minutes to cast.Suffering builds character.
>>96490087>Trolls were considered invincible before muskets>Charlie had the 11 demon king bomb before musketsMuskets can destroy a continent
>>96490219>140, 19, 170, 119, 160>Lies of R'tsy Pulls Methodically>Pronunciation 2-10 hours>R'tsy: 'speech' and 'language' in its purest meaningLies of language pulls methodically?? Oh shidd what does this do>111, 175, 140, 145, 73>Death of Gold Touches Happily>Pronunciation 30-40 secondstotal merchant death (jnpl approved)
>>96490233>An "explode child" spell? Not only does it only work on Northerners, it takes 10 minutes to cast.>Suffering builds character.This sounds like a Black Magic spell
>>96490233>An "explode child" spell? Not only does it only work on Northerners, it takes 10 minutes to cast.The spite of Charlotte made real.
>>96490217Why? That seems arbitrary.
>>96490173Morlocks are the true inheritors so losing to them is more of a feat.
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>>96490275Stop hogging all the builds.
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>>96490275Punchardt is too strong for Az.
>>96490314I love this cyoa. 10/10 would enjoy this existence. Perfect balance of chill, comfy, spooky and adventurous.Car: RVThe coziest choice.Small Items:>Battered WalletInfinite small change is a godsend on roadtrips. We'll always have the cash to stop for a bite to eat and to put in that little extra fuel.>WalkmanFor when the driver puts on something I don't want to listen to. Also for the protection.>Four-Leaf CloverWho doesn't need a little extra luck on a roadtrip? Besides, it synergizes really well with the Old Wallet.Large Items:>Amateur Radio SetI'm here for the comfy and the spooky and this provides both whilst also being informative and helpful. A must have.>Picnic Basket (Cooler)For snack and comf.>Laptop (Aya.sys & Gutenberg.exe)Ai companion is cool and I like to read.>ToolkitNo one wants to be stranded on the open road. Especially one as strange as this. Would love to see what Annika can do with it.Passengers:>Annika AsterA upbeat and quirky gearhead, what's not to love?>Red Jackie'Mommy'. Seriously tho it doesn't hurt to have some muscle and she seems, as her description says 'Bro-tier'.>Trystan de La FontaineSomeone you could just chill with. Offers slight protection from the strangeness of this place.Features and Hazards:>Natural Wonders, Supernatural Guardians>Local Colour, Fallen Towns>Summer Blessing, Desert Death>Fall Blessing, All Hallows>Winter Blessing, Horrors of the Snow>Wayside Shrines, Forgotten Gods>The Road Goes Ever On, The Road CallsLike my other choices these were all picked to add to the sense of adventure, comf and camaraderie with my companions. While providing some stakes. Like Bob Ross said, "Gotta have a little sadness once in a while so you know when the good times come".I could think of much worse ways to spend eternity.
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>>96490130They still need their corpse.
>>96490356If this was true the dragons would have just eaten them. So it can't be.
>>96490356Do they? They need to find their dream sigil or something. Perhaps it spawns a body ex nihilo once the important part (the spirit) is back where it belongs.
>>96490258>Lies of language pulls methodically?? Oh shidd what does this doPulls people, I assume? So it's con-artistry. And with "methodically", it's something white-collar like a Ponzi scheme.
>>96490365>>96490371This feels more consistent with them being immortal because they're detached from the world, and their bodies aren't as important to them. Just chase them into the dream and kill them again.
>>96490390Why do you always post the shittiest of meme CYOAs?
>>96490400Usually I like them; sometimes it's just to keep the torch lit. Post some of your favorites!
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>>96490400you shut your whore mouth. In this house we respect Warlordanon, who holds up high the banner of unsupernatural modern day warfare when noone else does.
>>96490384>kill an empyrean after a hard-fought battle>enter the dream world to kill it (for real this time)>you're faced with a biblical angel having a temper tantrumDepending on how strong they are within the dreamscape, confronting them might be a bad idea.
>>96490418>muh authorIt's a shit meme cyoa.
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>>96490419They will job to me.
>>96488576The Curse Slinger>Patron: [YMRD]>Perks:AdoptionDice Fudge (Achaxe)Outer Tide>Adoptive Mother: Achaxe>Mother: Maiosara Yesod>Father: Leif>Race: Tumen>Languages: Everman, Old Northern, Salian, Palatiner>Location: Poluplato>Gifts:Bitter SicknessWereplagueMeandering ThoughtEverlastingCognitive SpeedMemory RetentionIntelligenceLook of Chaos x2Overflowing Pupil x2Grim Outlook x3Multiocular OAutoantecedenceAzure WreathDevout SignatureGod HandPanarmamentFlowing GaitKneeling TwilightRoyal Claim>Autoantecedence Grim Outlook: Maladies now count as Gifts for the purposes of imbuing into cursed objects. The more Maladies are imbued, the greater the effects of the attached Death Letters.>Mentors:NataljaNezvanaGwriel>Companions:Ahelth[YMRD]Polkan>Encounters:Natalja (A Dark and Stormy Night)Nezvana (Musket to The Face + Remember the Demon)Gwriel (No Way, Highwayman + Crown Into The Gutter)Ahelth (Upward Spiral)Polkan (Breaking and Entering)>Deaths:Self A (Vedi)Achaxe B (Qoppa, Zhivete)Maiosara Yesod C (Slovo)Leif A (Her'V')Natalja C (Shta, Zemlya)Nezvana A (Zelo, Zemlya)Gwriel C (Glagoli, Zemlya)Ahelth C (Ouk)Polkan B (Yer', Zemlya>Youth:Leadership TrainingTravelingTreasure HuntingPlotting>Quest: TemperantiaDecided to go with [YMRD] in the end. I'll still use Tsifra so that I can take advantage of Achaxe's extended teachings and make up for the lack of God Script usage. General bullet combination will be a mix of Meandering Thought, Bitter Sickness, and Azure Wreath on top of R'tsy, Slovo, and Qoppa for magical meltdowns.General plan is traveling the world with Polkan and Ahelth while bringing my mentors along for as much as I can to discover ancient relics and buried history within long lost ruins, or even Gewrgin's corpse, and eventually returning to strike at the Empire of Light and Dark to try and create an opening for a new ruler to take their place at the top, whether its me or an aligned interest.
>>96490433>>96490426oh, please. You would be hard pressed to name something with more timeless appeal, let alone to make it yourself
If I don't post a Peil CYOA, have I posted anything at all?
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>>96490450Yes. You even have a trip signature to prove it happened.Also Secret Agent was better.
>>96490440Tok
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>>96490456I don't discriminate. I don't think I've played this one more than once or twice, thanks
>>96490419How do I get stronger in the Dreamscape?
>>96490483Clear dungeons.
>>96490483Dungeoneering, since the dungeons are dreams. In terms of mentors, you're looking for Upunth and Esu.
>>96490483Go to Dis and start going downwards.
>>96490493>>96490494Does clearing dungeons give you "dream xp" that just makes you stronger in dreams? That seems silly.
>>96490508Nope. You're just getting more used to the dreamscape.
>>96490508Nothing ever implied that. Dungeons are physical places you enter, they physical places even if they are made of dreams. Empyreans in their spirit state should be vulnerable if they can even come back, I don't know where this whole you have to fight them again in a dungeon came from.
Dreams and Nightmares are basically just Bloodbourne style things right?
>>96490528Dreams are future divinity leaking through your mind as per By Design. But they are still dreams with no effect in reality. Dungeons are solid dreams made by SRTR that manifest at random and are standard RPG dungeons. There are ways to manipulate them but they are very rare like Esu and would be limited to things like changing their layouts or bending their rules.To nightmare that covers the underground is a physical phenomena that is the combination of True Dragon corpse divinity, alongside the Old Throne fake timelines and the Eternal Curse that manifests as nightmare monsters. These are not at all affected by Dream Passage as per Tankista words and are basically a darkness tide. Some dungeons can be corrupted by nightmare and start spewing monsters around but the only example we have is Bal who is being stopped by Darina. Rhucu seems to want to test the wall between dreams and reality to fuck everything up.
>>96490581I take B every single time
>>96490579Don't forget that Thaumiel knows how to manipulate nightmare to give birth to new lifeforms, from monsters to yuri-babies.
>>96490579>Rhucu seems to want to test the wall between dreams and reality to fuck everything up.I'd be down for this plan if the Nightmare wasn't a thing, but with it in the picture, it just seems like most people are just going to get corrupted, and YMRD will need to do another reset.
>>96490579>basically a darkness tideSounds racially charged.
>>96490581Why would anyone choose C or B?
stop glazing empyreans, retardsit's not that hard to kill them
>>96490638>it's not that hard to kill themthis but for everyone
I got tired of rolling then looking at the table so I made my 'puter do it for me
>ioatated ouk + ZemlyaIs this guaranteed survival, but as an undead?
>>96490662nice
I can't decide whether I should get Spako or Su'uq as my shoulder friend for my Outsider.
>>96490683Simplest way to resolve that is going to be becoming a majin undead and possessing the thing that eats you, yea
Here are some of the cool spells I found>Brain of Instinct Finds, DirectlyI'd like to think this spell instantly ascends you to Elder Godhood. Just need to cast it for 10,000 or so years...>Fate of the letter Zhivete Destroys, IndirectlyFate of life destroys indirectly? Maybe it's a bad luck spell>Vagina of Time Bursts, Angrilylol
>>96490729How would vagina of time bursts work?
>>96489728> have OC are is the general still stroking aStroke or ESL?
>anons who can't spell are the ones who hate ORIt all makes sense now.
>>96490581D. No contest.>>96490585Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
>>96490786Degenerates rules the thread.
>>96488576Which world will the toyboxers go to? Or rather, which world *should* the toyboxers go to? Which world needs them most?"In the world's darkest hour, when it would otherwise perish, the toyboxers and their eugenics army of Icons of Icons, Daemonhosts, and Majin will fall from the atmosphere into whatever situation the world is facing and resolve it. Because this is what they will be preparing to achieve from the moment they chose Theta. Fate will have to wait for another opportunity to end the story."—Possible God-Script Narration
>>96490793Zhivette? Which worlds are going to be destroyed by anon builds?
>>96490793World Theta. There was no 11ths outside of the Toybox, so Charlotte already conquered Doria and Mamet and everything sucks.
>>96490800The worlds were no one can fight off Charlotte.>Zhivette?They will destroy most of the world then new civilizations will grow out the cataclyms. It will be the weirder world by the end, but I trust in Mr. Tree, Mr. Entropy, Spider Mom and Eminem.
>>96490581B wouldn't be so bad, if it weren't for the baby eating, and having to interact with dopamine fried post humansE is my choice. Obviously it's the high variance option, but I think with the gear offered to you, and a rational mindset, you could come out on top. And get technology that is off limits in other worlds. Besides it's the most fun/interesting option.>>96490786Enjoy your communist utopia, comrade!
Is the anon who liked the Fox Miko in 'Waifu Summoner CYOA' still around?"Daughter Summoner" is imminent (though it'll be straight to /trash/ since it's less SFW than it's predecessor)
Humanity's undying urge to throw out their entire build to be a pixie.
>>96491107anon wants to be jarred
>>96491107Pixie wings are ugly so no
>>96491139Who the fuck thinks butterfly/moth wings are ugly?
>>96491144Clearly I do. The colors are nice but the pattern, texture and how flimsy they are is shit.
>>96491153Repugnant taste.
https://imgchest.com/p/qb4znr5d54j
>>96488576Selling Omega or taking Bitter Sickness?I don't want to sell her but if I'm going to be a brutal dragon god I need to not be weakened by some demon disease I cannot easily fix this build, and those points are too tempting...
>>96491230Selling out a girl beloved by both YMRD and SRTR isn't going to go well for you in this story, anon.
>>96491240You're saying, in other words, it's the move only a true chad would make?
>>96491246If that's your mindset, go ahead. Make sure to take Ameno and Nilmatrix too.
>>96490801Honestly, I think Charlie would be paranoid as fuck on that world.
>>96491230Consider that successful villains have tended to have the patronage of SRTR.Now consider that a villain who overcomes a horrible demon disease is an entertaining story that SRTR might enjoy. Ganking her a tsundere that she's told you she likes during character creation, less so.
Are the Elder Gods aware of how the whole OR setting corresponds to 21st century Earthian popular fiction, sometimes in remarkably specific ways?Or is that all something they did unwittingly?
>>96491240Truer words were never spoken. Pleasing the Elder Gods is the #1 priority above all else.Praise be to [JNPL]. Praise be to [SRTR]. Praise be to [YMRD].
Do lorefags know why Beastfolk have Longevity? The only theory I could think of is that being immune to the Werecurse mean that they are animals permanently shifted to humanoid forms and that not really aging is just a side effect of that.
>>96491309The lore implication is that they were created by mage-cults out of humans way back in prehistoric times, much like how True Dragons and Phoenixians were created by mage-cults. Wereplague doesn't work because they're already part animal, but the founding substrate was most likely mage-cult humans.
>>96491297There could be trillions of parallel universes and they just choose Earth because the fiction is similar.
CYOA like this?
>>96491369Lavender Coronation.
>>96491309Dying a lot at a young age is supposed to be the Human brand, for aesthetic reasons the Gods can't have the Beastmen as the second most common race(?) share that. The Gift of Men as Tolkien put it, not Gift of Beastmen.Out of all the races, only Morlocks have lifespan comparable to Humans and only Oozes have less. But Oozes are retarded so they don't count. And Morlocks might be nightmare-affected humans?
>>96491379Tolkien called it a Gift because it let you get to heaven faster and hang out with god. However in OR there is no heaven and dying doesn't seem to help humans at all, since the only being to ever ascend was an Asura 1000 years ago and no human has ever accomplished it.
>>96491379Morlocks were a thing pre-Nightmare. If they're humans, they're humans who got driven into/settled the Underground in prehistory but then became inbred and weird because of all the other races pushing them into only the worst and most inhospitable environments. But they could just be similar to humans in nature rather than actually the same.
>>96491398>Morlocks were a thing pre-Nightmare.We don't know that. In the timeline excel table, Nightmare starts at -800. Morlocks might be younger than that.
>>96491416Stop reading JUST the timeline and start reading the historical maps, you are missing tons of vital information.
>>96491416You can literally see them on the historical map for year 1001 B11
>>96491423yeah I forgot the maps entirely
Rolled 191, 110, 55, 81, 172, 98, 98, 181, 186, 119, 2, 78, 144, 45, 114 = 1674 (15d200)>>96489649Lets see what pops out.
>>96491300I'd please them alright.
>>96491297Of course. YMRD is a big earthaboo
>>96491629191, 110, 55, 81, 172Wall of Rust, Drops Secretly - 47 hour cast timeSpell based on muddish philosophy, it begins the rapid internal decay of all man-made structures within the users eye-line and spreads out rapidly to connected structures over an hour. This is generally a siege magic spell used to render the defenses of a city completely unusable without anyone realising till its too late.98, 98, 181, 186, 119Revenge of Truth, Resists Self-harmingly - 3 minutesA support spell designed to be used on the backlines when supporting a group of martial allies. It vastly increases the required precision to avoid mis-casts with all spells within a 100 meter radius. It also causes mathemagic users to suffer the same problem, except by rendering them effetively dyslexic by shuffling around numbers occasionally.2, 78, 144, 45, 114Spear of Poison, Hides Directly - 2.5 minutesA trapping spell which generates several heavily poisoned invisible spear tips on a surface of the users choosing. A variant of this spell can be used to create an extremely effective palisade, though that version takes longer to cast.
>>96491297If they didn't originally, they probably do by now. Other Outsiders would've commented on the similarities, if nothing else.
>>96491259Definitely. She knows Alisa, Ielziaseh, and Rhucuphre are options; if she can't find any trace of an 11th Outsider after a while, she will think you're infiltrating the Ecumene. She might even think you're infiltrating with YMRD—it would explain how you leave absolutely 0 traces. A sword of Damocles situation that is all in her head.
>>96491775>Charlie ends up imploding the Ecumene and having massive civil wars trying to purge the '11th' infiltrator>toybox builds come out to find the natives have already done half the work due to Jdan manipulating the scenario to abuse the paranoia 0^0 displayed to the max
>>96491747Is this a surinical cyoa?
>>96488576>Realize that I can use Lost in Lost City to trade the useless Grey Wandering for something good, so maybe it's worth switching to Gramrouth as a dad>Read it again and see that it's for something LESS THAN 4, so only 3 cost gifts or less>Only 3 point gift I would want is Multiocular O>Don't have enough points to fill my eye slots out because the dad switch would only give me 1 extra ancestry pointMeh, it feels like such a waste to get Multiocular and not fill it up, or mostly.
>>96488576>>96491894That said, I noticed that Multiocular O isn't incompatible with using Missing Shape on your eyes, just that you can only do it twice (to your natural eyes.) Has he made a statement before on how that'll actually function? Will you still have 10 'eyes', or only 8? Will it mean you're blind, but your blind eyes can still cycle through and use your 10 magic eyes? Or you just have 8 eyes through which you can see and use your eye powers as normal? Will it just delete your inherited eye(s) specifically and you can fill up your 10 slots naturally?
>>96491917Multiocular O doesn't let you use all of the eyes at once, only two. So if you used missed shape on one eye, you would probably only be able to use one at once. And if you used two, I doubt you would be able to use any of them until you fixed the malady.
>>96491423It really does seem like the elder gods created the outsider system to fuck over the elves, first the second seat and then Charlie to finish the job
>>96491930I know that, but read the description in Multiocular 0:>Should you lose one particular eye, be it a Gift or your normal one, you'll still be able to fill your bleeding socket with another from your listThis makes it sound like Multiocular makes your eyes work like chambers in a revolver, if one is emptied you just rotate to a filled slot. The most charitable but logical interpretation is that these two options together blind one or two of your ten eyes, so now you have two useless 'chambers' that can't be 'loaded' with magic eyes. But since this is a CYOA and these are magic god gifts, the author might have ruled otherwise, and it'd be fair.
>>96491949That directly contradicts Missed Shape's description.>As your chosen shape was missing from the start, most methods of regeneration will not work, including all listed in the Inborn Gifts here.It is also obviously unlikely to be the intention, because Missed Shape x8 would give 24 points and Multiocular O costs 3, meaning everyone without Multiocular O could get 21 points for free by taking it and sacrificing it.It also contradicts the text of another section of Missed Shape:>and you won't be able to take all-glimpse no matter what, as it requires having both of your eyes.This is because you can take All-Glimpse with Multiocular O, it's just you can't take other eye gifts. If you could sacrifice the Multiocular O eyes, then it would necessarily be possible to have both of your eyes after Missed Shape and thus take it with all-glimpse. Which obviously isn't true.
>>96491977>most methods of regenerationIt's not regeneration, 2 of your 10 eye slots are blind forever.>Missed Shape x8Read Missed Shape again, it says at the end that your slots from Multiocular O are excluded as natural eyes you can sacrifice. That's why I presented the possible reading that you'd still be able to get 10 magic eyes, even though I think that one is very unlikely to be the intent. So either way, no matter what, you can only take Missed Shape (eyes) twice. The text explicitly says that.Either way I'm not here to argue with you and your inherently subjective reading of the text. No point in butting heads. I want to know if Tankista said anything about the interaction, that's it.
>>96491944They specifically conspired against the Elves because living forever slows development/ascension.The same goes for the TRVE DRAGONS. They didn't job, the gods wanted them dead.
>>96488576>Midnight Point>Midday PointWeird question, has Outerland been a tidally locked planet all this time?
>>96488576Does giving Gunter Apantoxia as a companion mean he's the one getting raped by Paxxia instead of you?
>>96492100The outsiders are just there to take the brunt of the blame, while the elder gods just maintain plausible deniability, but the false ascension was a inside job to nuke the elves. All the greatest jobber moments were orchestratedby the elder gods. The true dragons, the fall of the second throne, the "accidental" release of the Uruks, they probably picked Erginter so she would murder Yphont and re release the Uruks, the death of the 3rd/8th outsider was a prelude for the false ascent, Keter jobber moment was orchestrated to kill of the elfs, really Charlie is just an instrument by the elder gods to kill of the elder races.
Rolled 13, 137, 96, 78, 126 = 450 (5d200)>>96489649Does [JNPL]'s suffering curse/blessing extend to magic? let's find out!
>>96492100>The same goes for the TRVE DRAGONS. They didn't job, the gods wanted them dead.>Their inception had them sodominated for all the sodomy it took to get there.>Strongest member was killed by a baby.>Trademark gift sucks by all signs and indication.>The gestalt entity of their race was neutered by a forum argument.>Systemically exterminated by everyone else for centuries.>No permanent legacy except for a LARPer.
>>96492129If you plan to do it you should also give him Mihrdat and make him king.
>>96492136>Crown of Immunity Changes Precisely.>4...10 minutesI have no idea what that is supposed to be. My headcanon is that it works like a combination of Death of Author and Mahoraga's wheel halo, every time the crown rotates I gain an immunity to some specific thing.
>>96491864yes
>>96492109No, these are just local terms for South and North Poles.
>Mother’s gifts take priority over the father’s>Paxxia can rape not only you but your build tooEvil eye is so bad. Curse this vile dragon.
>>96492389Give Apantoxia Lost in Lost City encounter.
>>96492389All-Glimpse or Multiocular OPick your poison
>>96488586We have officially reduced a number of hermits for the first time! Lady skipped straight through all the populated worlds, but managed to find a pair in the hermitage. I am not sure how happy our dedicated teacher is about that, since her pair is Valar. She is sure to handle the fight with the Ecumene, who will handle her Nightmare factory is the question.The Curse Slinger has just landed on Buki without any issues. Honestly, at this point it is an incredible overkill, have pity on poor Charlie.
>>96492405Who made more builds hermits? Eirina or Leimeie?
>>96492405/mcyoa/ is here>>96471183
>>96492410As of right now, there are 3 builds with Leimeie there, one of those also has Eirina. And then there is He'el, who has none of them, but somehow doesn't fit anywhere.
>>96492405Nice, thanks for your hard work.
>>96490880The post-human aspect is a bonus imo, pity they infantilized themselves is all (this is why we need a Butlerian Jihad). A's not intolerable as an asocial sperg, in fact if I can sell my moonshining as of interest as "culturally authentic atavism" there may be some minor interest.Overall their haughty stagnation is sickening though so E it is, the sled alone is enough to comfortably play small-time courier.
>>96492449>picI don't get it
>>96492583He's alleging that YMRD worshippers are the local equivalent of Chabad as a scholastic doomsday cult. Ironically it's Malkuth that's more equivalent to the Jews for obvious reasons, the vague Christ-coding of JNPL aside.
>>96492583Large number of worlds = larger number of possible Izhitsas occurring simultaneously.And the newest world is named Yee, the first letter of [YMRD]'s name.
Evil Eye isn't bad.
>>96492599>evil eye tentacles typed this
>>96488576What's the worst gift anyway? For its price or opportunity cost
>>96492638Bestial Strength, Overstep, Far Graze, Grey Wandering
>>96492638View of Fore.
>>96492599It's not, but you need Multioccular with it. Meaning its real price is 4 points.>>96492638Bulletproof Skin, overpriced and underwhelming.
>>96492638Witcshot is almost unbeatable in this regard. 4 points per level, brings something interesting only at x2 and, worst of all, eats into leg slots.
>>96492654It can be cheesed for reliable multi decade long precognition or turned into future seeing magic with Tenyota, don't undersell it that much.
>>96492638Entrenchment used to be the butt of jokes last time, and nothing changed about the entry in the update (I checked by superimposing the 2 images in photoshop), yet it doesn't seem as disdained this time around.
>>96492681Honestly Entrenchment should've been a free Dwarf gift. Its the perfect racial ability for Dwarves.
>Globe Trotter>Monster Book>Slayer's GuidbookI would've swapped Slayer's Guidbook for All-book if All-book was infinite or even just self-erasing, but afaict it's a regular book that will up over time
>>96492744s/will up/will fill up
>>96492744I choose none of these options because I am incompatible with her, alas.
>>96490894Could you tell me when it drops?I don't really want to be checking trash
>>96492705It is also amazing for pixies. Everyone is above you, might as well exploit it.
>>96492805Well Pixies move around by flying, so realistically they're always on level or higher with the other races. P
>>96488576More data breakdowns.If you see something wrong, let me know and I'll correct it next time.
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>>96492877In hindsight, I should have just merged these.
>>96492825Nothing stops you from landing, drawing a sword while litting a cigar and daring that tall bastard to try.Works even better with magic or gun+witchshot.
>>96492877>Rhucuphre is the second most popular mentor(not counting Keter because most of those are probably adoptions)How did she do it? Are Outsiders just vulnerable to dark elf mind control?
>>96492884You are a pixieYou could have done that anyway
>>96492864Nice. What are the colors supposed to mean?
>>96492880>Gunther with Dobrava: 9>Gunther with Nilmatrix: 7>Gunther with Evdokia: 5Was there a specific reason to have Evdokia in Gunther's party?
>>96492895Green - Adopted fromPink - Adopted byPurple - Dice Fudged or Untimeskipped (could be inaccurate due to, some not marking it as clearly and I speedread past it.)
>>96492889People have finally woken up to the truth.
>>96492889Quite a few anons were trying to kill her that way.
>>96492899A lack of destiny points. She is very expensive on her own and without picking her you leave a dangerous asset for 0^0 to use.
>>96492889Rhucuphre did nothing wrong and will only benefit your life. This is an inexorable, undeniable truth.
>>96492889Dark elves and kuuderes are our greatest weaknesses.
>>96492912Yphont my beloved...
>>96492866Only one person choose Serebryanka. I am disappointed in you anons.
>>96492877Vu'uk bros...
>>96492877>the most popular teacher discounting rental mommy is the teaching teacherHuh, I didn't think it was going to be her.
>>96492877Poor Vu'uk. Even fucking Reks was chosen.
>>96492938Reks is really good though.
>>96492931I'm going to post an update to my build where I pick her, mostly because I saw a little mistake and she seems the most sensible dungeon explorer
>>96492949But that's how losers think.
>>96492901This info ought to be put in the image.
Isekai Light Overlord is kind of done? There's more I might add (no promises) from some suggestions, but it's already a week into September.After actually trying to do it myself, I have gained even more respect for MiCha.Thanks to Dark Sovereign for editing, Husanon for advice and resources, and everyone else (except one) who read the WIPs.Sorry for wasting your time.
>>96492981Oh, and for WIP readers: barely anything has been changed from the most recent one.
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>>96492981Imgchest with pngs?
>>96492877>YRMD
>>96493011https://imgchest.com/p/qb4znrrn54jI think this should work?
>>96492982>P2A>P2BWhy, authors, why do you do this shit?
>>96492880>No one picked DuphroruIt seems no one has that many local ambitions, she can instantly win a war or kill someone like Rhucuphre almost certainly.
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>>96493060Maybe, just maybe, anons simply don't like traitors.
>>96492864Can you see which characters are most often picked together?
>>96492934Its because of the teacher Blazkho exploit. The most pathetic of them all imo, imagine getting schooled by a brat lmao.
>>96493109>The most pathetic of them all imo, imagine getting schooled by a brat lmao.Keterbros...
>>96493116KeterSIMPS at least get the dignity of being raised by a senior outsider and one of the most powerful people alive. BlazkhoKIDS are literally the apprentices of a decade and half younger country boy.
>>96493131>dignity>forced into therapy for your depression with therapist being one year old kid you are rising who keeps calling your build bad
>>96493131Well-well, what do we sense here? Firstborn jobber attitude?
>>96493137>If we do take it how would Keter treat us if she had to raise us? Would she be an abusive drunk and beat us every day or is that just people flanderizing her?>No.>I imagine that she would be at worst somewhat neglectful at the start. Depending on other choices (especially the letter assigned to her) during your childhood, you could use this as an opportunity to start her redemption arc. If she's not paired with Thaumiel or anyone else she had bad past with (even if she's alone), you should have good odds of that with some effort.Plus most of them take One as well.
>>96493046Thanks.
It looks to me like Katya and Tuzik were equally underqualified to play hero, one knew it and just lived his life, the other didn't think that her circumstances afforded her to be anything else.
>>96488576Fu'uq, the Pixie Bomber>Patron: [JNPL]>PerksExtra Companion x5Outer Tide>Mother: Pu'un>Father: Stoyan>Race: Pixie>Languages: Auburn, Spriggan (bilingual)>Location: Sierogrivian Basin>Gifts:PerpetuityDiminishingNoble InclinationMemory RetentionAttentivemessEthereal BeautyMartial InstinctBulletproof SkinBestial StrengthMitigating GripCaster IntuitionSpiritual FeelBleeding Heart Gesture x3Autoantecendence (-5) - I can decide how much of stored harm is spent on strike>Mentors:Vu'uk (Untimeskip)Zu'us (Untimeskip)>Companions (total 8 slots):Su'uqDu'umOmega (True Love)Araith>Encounters:A Hop, A Lean, A HobgoblinA Score of OrcsA Band of OgresA Bridge, A Toll, A TrollOne Against All (Vu'uk)Greatest of Yus (Zu'us)Remember about Death (Su'uk)Interested and Dissolved Parties (Du'um)Upward Spiral (Omega)Breaking and Entering (Araith)>Deaths:Me (Vedi)Stoyan (R'tsy)Vu'uk (Pokoy)Zu'us (Shta Zhivete)Du'um (Tsy)Omega (Ot)Araith (Dobro Zhivete)>Youth:Martial TrainingMagical TrainingDungeoneeringPower Testing>Quest: PatientiaAs a follower of JNPL I always knew that the path to ascension was a path of suffering. Once I had mastered the magic, I would experiment every night, trying to make it explode in the most spectacular way. My father Stoyan was my first accidental victim, but his death was not in vain, because it further hardened my character. Nothing can stop a determined pixie bomber.I'm going to assemble my team of fairies: Vu'uk, Zu'us, Su'uk, and Du'um, and go raiding dungeons and Ecumene. Omega with her immortality is a great addition. The idea is to stall Charlotte for a 100 years until 12th comes. And have fun while doing it. Araith is here because I had a lot of excess destiny points, so I'm a bit worried about her. I hope she lives to see the 12th.
>>96493201>Araith is here because I had a lot of excess destiny points, so I'm a bit worried about her. I hope she lives to see the 12th.>Smallest companions>Biggest companionMasterpiece.
New thread >>96275050
>>96493216Never give up! That's the spirit!
>>96493201Are you afraid of other tiders deciding to help your build out by putting you in a jar?
>>96493216Fuck off tok
>>96492981Isn't this just isekai dark overlord but with a "good guy" slab of paint over it?
>>96493232Yes, that's the goal.
>>96493232Wow anon! what a genius you are! where could you have possibly figured that out? is it the name "Light Overlord"? or something else that ticked off your Sherlock Holmes senses?
>>96493227No jar can withstand a good explosion. Just in case, I'd like to stay away from other tiders. Unless they are really cute and enjoyable to talk to.
>>96493201I love the concept, but you cannot have Mitigating grip, both your arm slots are already taken by Bleeding Heart Gesture
>>96493262Oh shit really. I'll take Enochian Brand and Seraphim Wings then. It's a bit sad, but with Vu'uk teachings I'll be pretty good in a fight anyway.
>>96493201>Mother: Pu'un>Father: StoyanI refuse to believe that Pu'un would ever hook up with a faggot like Stoyan, unless she got raped by him.
>>96488576Demonic Nightmare Maker>Female, VediPatron>[JNPL]Perks>True Love (free), Dice Fudge (Free), Extra Companion 2, Outer TideParents>Dei / PirRace>MajinCountry/Location>StygiaLanguages>Polyglot>Everman, Late Thulean, Spriggan, Elven-Northener (Quietened Simplified Duergar and Draconian)Gifts>Demonhost, All Glimpse, Royal Claim, Spirit Tap (x1),Caster Intuition, Memory Retention, Intelligence, Wisdom, Letters of the Damned, Longevity (Free)>Ethereal Beauty, Spiritual Feel, Spirit Tap (x1), Dream Passage (x3), Autoantecedence, Wereplague 1, Seraphic WingsMentors>Vu'uq (Greater Yus, On Full Stomach)>Seo (Zemlya Shta, Playing Traitors)Companions>Esu (Iotated Greater Yus, Interested and Dissolved Parties)>??? (Yee Izhe, Wild and Wilder)>Baf (Lesser Yus, Remember About Death)>Half Ascended Thaumiel (True Love, Dice Fudge, Zelo Zhivete, Breaking and Entering(Dis))>Empty(A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll)Youth>Profane Lore, Magical Training, Power Testing, DungeoneeringQuest>PatientiaJust a small update to fix the fact that I put Dice Fudge Thaumiel as a mentor rather than a companion and also to take away Thoroughbreeding since it is worthless for the build. Also reposting the use of Autoantecedence Dream Passage since it appears to have been missed>the idea of dream passage 3 would be to be able to start changing the rules of the dungeons once inside, allowing them to break the number of people limit and make them grow or shrink as required, perhaps eventually creating a dungeon like the Archaia capital by stitching several dungeons together.I wasn't going to post it but seeing that no one picked Vu'uq I felt it right to do it. She's great if you want to experiment with dungeons. The main point is to still create an army of nightmare daughters after taking control and joining both demonic cities into one.
>>96493301Maybe she reformed him? Description says that it is at least theoretically possible.
>>96493301You think someone like Stoyan wouldn't see it as a golden opportunity to fuck a fairy?He would put the tough hero act until she get charmed and diminished, then pump and dump her. I guess she could redeem her but that is up to fate. Reminder that one encounter has your parent possibly cheating on your mother so there's always that.
>>96493351>that one encounter has your parent possibly cheating on your motherWhich one?
>>96493357For Auspicious Beginnings.It doesn't say that he will fuck the chosen character but that if he's of a certain personality, your mother will at least suspect he did.The encounter is actually rather good, the only reason people don't take it is because it's locked to unpopular locations.
>>96493375>the only It is also can't be used with Adoption.
>>96490703both
>>96490703Su'uq is cuter.
>>96493406Shit taste.
>>96491949>Chambers in a revolverIs there an eye that has some sort of instant effect so you can rotate them constantly to keep the eye meanings fresh?
>>96492668You can however trade an spent eye of fore so it's great value
>>96490703Objectively Su'uq is better as she will not die until you die. Spako can die any moment as she's just an undead.
>>96493423Have you tried to punch a ghost?
>>96493425>he can't punch ghostsRedo your build.
>>96493375I didn't pick it because none of my Companions are thematically appropriate filling the role of a priest who blesses me. Zero priest(esses) in my build.
>>96493414Blazing Seal specifies that the burnout remains even if you use other gifts, you need to actually rest and leave that engagement for it to return, the usual the story is boring if you only spam one attack to win.Multilocular O will still help you switch them up quickly during combat.
>>96493414Oculus of Human Goodness still works with short breaks like blinking, so you could possibly "flicker" it with another eye. However, no other eye is particularly useful for to combine it with. Further, since that's not continuous but repeatedly starting and stopping wouldn't it massively accelerate Meaning devaluation and not slow it?
>>96493433IIRC correctly the companion isn't the priest.
>>96491917How about the daytime crowd? Did Tankista ever answer any questions about this Multiocular O/Missing Shape interaction?
>>96490703Su'uq is stuck in limbo similarly to One and unless you pick her she could be there for all eternity.
>>96493400I can't actually do both, I'd be one DP short.
>>96493440Missed Shape limits you to only one eye socket unless you somehow manage to get it back through means outside the System where you could then use Multilocular O. I'm pretty sure this was confirmed back in v1 back I don't have the quote at hand.
>>96492981Excellent. Don't expect me to make a build in a reasonable amount of time, but I will make a build eventually.
>>96493465I'd like the quote, please. That's the least logical interpretation of the text so I have trouble taking it on faith, but as I said before, it's a CYOA so whatever is ruled goes if he actually said that.
>>96492981Also, got way too self-deprecating there at the end, cheer up, emo kid, you did good.
>>96493484How is it the least logical? To borrow the metaphor used earlier, I think the issue is that you think the Multiocular O are the chambers, when in actuality your eye sockets are and the Multiocular O stored eyes are the bullets. It doesn't make since that it'd be otherwise because they aren't physically eyes on your body. Its a mark on your back. If the Missed Sharp just carved off bits of your tattoo that's not really getting rid of your eyes. Likewise it wouldn't make sense that it'd be so easy to replace when its mentioned Inborn Gifts can't bring back those missing parts, which would include Multiocular O.
>>96493513Why are you trying to pick a fight with me again? I just want the author's ruling.>They aren't physically eyesMultiocular O says if one of your eyes get ripped out you can just rotate one of your other eyes there and see again, which does make it sound like they're physical eyes stored somewhere by the mark.
>>96493542>pick a fightNot that anon but the one who actually disagreed with you earlier, take your meds.
>>96493542I should've directly stated I'm not that guy earlier, which is why I was borrowing someone else's metaphors. It's magic, they are stored in the tattoo and only are physical when you bring them out. That's why it doesn't make sense to be targeted by Missed Shape or allowed to bring them back through it. How are you going to pull out an eye into position when the position is compromised by Missed Shape? It doesn't make sense as the most logical option to assume otherwise.
>>96490703Spako is more useful.
>>96493484>As your chosen shape was missing from the start, most forms of regeneration will not work, including all listed in the Inborn gifts hereWhat it seems to say is that your eye socket simply cannot have an eye placed there at all. It's not the same as one eye being born blind.
>>96493552I think you're treating Missing Shape like it occupies a body slot and it's not just your eyes physically not existing. In my thought it doesn't 'occupy' anything. So the ambiguity here is that Multiocular O directly says it can replace lost, physically removed, eyes, if you get blinded then you can replace that eye with any of the other eye slots you have. Direct quote from the text:>Should you lose one particular eye, be it a Gift or your normal one, you'll still be able to fill your bleeding socket with another from your listSo by that logic if you used Missed Shape to scoop out two of your eyes, Multiocular O still has up to 8 magic eyes you purchased to put back into your head. Whether they exist physically anywhere until you bring them out is irrelevant, only the fact that the text does say it lets you replace lost eyes. That's the question being asked here, "What's the difference between two eyes lost via Missing Shape and two eyes that just got gouged out in a fight?" The later unambiguously can be fixed with Multiocular, at least as much as putting a new eyeball in your head from your pool, because the option directly tells you that you can. The former is a Malady, so it might or might not function like a regularly removed eye because of CYOA meta interaction nonsense. You are of the belief that Maladies occupy body slots, so by your logic Multiocular O can't rotate out the blinded eyes from Missing Shape because they are metaphysically blocked, but my problem here is that this conclusion, this interpretation of the Malady, isn't actually directly supported by the text at all.>>96493594I responded to this earlier, replacing a dead eye is not regeneration. That eye is still dead.
>>96493412Spako is a sex appeal character.
>>96493425>he isn't strong enough to punch ghostsget yourself some gloves of spirit tap, fucking brokie
>>96493606Su'uq is made for cumjars.
>>96490703Get both, the more people who you can talk to that others can't see the better.
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>>96493597You aren't losing your eyes, you never had any eyes to begin with. That's the issue I take with your interpretation. There's several things that support it.>Most methods of regeneration won't work, including all listed in the Inborn Gifts hereThis is the most obvious one. Multiocular O is a listed gift. So if it says that Inborn Gifts won't be able to bring it back, it seems like the most logical interpretation is that Multiocular O cannot do that.Really what just peeves me is stating that the most logical interpretation was otherwise which is why I keep repeating it. Sure its the most logical if you ignore any line that says differently.
>>96493616Su'uq is a precious little sunbeam and not for lewd.
>>96493579Su'uq helps with mental health, the world would be way less fucked if every Outsider had their own therapist-fairy. Don't become another Charlie, talk with your companion.
>>96488576The Curse Slinger>Patron: [YMRD]>Perks:AdoptionDice Fudge (Achaxe)Outer Tide>Adoptive Mother: Achaxe>Mother: Maiosara Yesod>Father: Leif>Race: Tumen>Languages: Everman, Old Northern, Salian, Palatiner>Location: Poluplato>Gifts:Bitter SicknessWereplagueMeandering ThoughtEverlastingCognitive SpeedMemory RetentionIntelligenceNoble InclinationLook of Chaos x2Overflowing Pupil x2Grim Outlook x3Multiocular OAutoantecedenceAzure WreathDevout SignatureGod HandPanarmamentFlowing GaitKneeling TwilightRoyal Claim>Autoantecedence Grim Outlook: Maladies now count as Gifts for the purposes of imbuing into cursed objects. The more Maladies are imbued, the greater the effects of the attached Death Letters.>Mentors:NataljaNezvanaGwriel>Companions:Ahelth[YMRD]Polkan>Encounters:Natalja (A Dark and Stormy Night)Nezvana (Musket to The Face + Remember the Demon)Gwriel (No Way, Highwayman + Crown Into The Gutter)Ahelth (Upward Spiral)Polkan (Breaking and Entering)>Deaths:Self (Vedi)Achaxe (Qoppa, Zhivete)Maiosara Yesod (Slovo)Leif (Her'V')Natalja (Shta, Zemlya)Nezvana (Zelo, Zemlya)Gwriel (Glagoli, Zemlya)Ahelth (Ouk)Polkan (Yer', Zemlya>Youth:Leadership TrainingTravelingTreasure HuntingPlotting>Quest: Temperantia>NataljaAs Meandering Thoughts is extremely strong for the build I was going for, I wanted to grab Tsifra for a magic option without God Script since it doesn't seem like there's a penalty for dropping concentration midway because the result is all that matters. God Script backfires when its Meaning is muddled, but Tsifra is streamlined. She's the only mentor I didn't have a good idea about her encounters and ended up going Dark and Stormy Night, but not really sure how it interacts with Shta and a retroactive Zemlya before I meet her, but either way I plan combine her teaching with Achaxe's practical knowledge. I'll make outcomes certain for everyone but myself, that's the fun with fudging the numbers.
>>96493627>You aren't losing your eyes, you never had any eyes to begin withPhysically there's no actual difference between having eye sockets that never had an eye in them versus eye sockets that used to one eyes in them, but they were completely removed later. Multiocular O explicitly lets you rotate a new eye into the later.>This is the most obvious oneExcept, again, this is not regeneration. You didn't repair the missing eye, you simply put a new eye in the socket. Just like Multiocular O lets you put one of your other eyes into your socket after said eye gets gouged out, an example that's outright listed in the option. That eye is still damaged. In a scenario where you got into a fight and someone stabbed you in your Eye for Shadows and you had Multiocular O and Evil Eye stored in it, you could put that Evil Eye into your socket and see again, but the Eye for Shadows is still stored in one of your Multiocular slots and if you brought it back out would still be damaged and blind. Regeneration is healing, nothing is healed by rotating your eye slots with Multiocular O, it is replacing. Nothing in Missing Shape says you cannot replace the eye, otherwise prosthesis or whatever implied "Stick someone's eyesballs in your head surgically" solution is implied wouldn't be possible.>What peeves meYou're trying to take some kind of grudge out over wording on me when the entire point is getting the author's word before doing anything?
>>96493654>Don't become another CharlieMore like>Don't become another Keter
>>96493657>NezvanaI got a lot of shit to juggle and there's only one person who can help with that. I'm mixing guns, Inborn Gifts, Death Letters, and Tsifra all together. I already got the idea of how I want to pull it off, but she'll be the one to actually show me how to do it right instead of instantly having it blow up in my face.>GwirelWhat puts me above a simple spellslinger. Learning to walk the walk is one thing, but I need to learn to talk the talk. Sharpen my aim and my tongue until I can fire off a retort for any situation Everyone loves a heroic type, and I plan to capitalize on that for future political endeavors. Having a man like him on my side for the reformation of the Empire will be nice as there will be plenty against us. It seems that eventually everyone around me is fated to die, and Gwriel will do so to save my life. It's the curse that anyone who I've associated with will bear. Curses can be manipulated however, and they don't stay dead for very long. Gwriel is dead, long live Gwriel!>AhelthHave a ship, will travel. Admittedly he was one of the people taken just because he was cool. I'm a cursed gunslinger, he's a sky pirate, there's not really much else I needed to think about. Plus its just nice for someone to have a vehicle and an awesome one at that. Hell I'll even see it crash down. I couldn't really think of a good death letter, so I went with Ouk so he'll become the true manifestation of Freedom and Pirating.>PolkanHonestly more of a driving force than I, he's the guy who I'll be tagging along with and ideally using Ahelth's ship to travel the globe to cover much more ground. I specifically picked Yer' as he isn't phased by most nightmarish monstrosities, so whatever it is that kills him will be significant. I wanted to go with Yee so I could try to find his reincarnation and have him regale me with the story of what happened, but I decided waiting a minimum of 12-14 years was too long and decided to continue the Zemlya chain.
>>96493663Keter had a fairy.
>>96493654If you need a tard wrangler you already lost.
>>96493667Wasn't licensed therapist-fairy.
>>96493660this is just so stupid man, if you want to go for it just go for it. You shoot down every other interpretation and say its the least likely and that yours makes the most sense, and then get it into your head that everyone else is against you cause they took one issue with how you said it. A grudge is fucking stupid, its like 3 posts. I don't care enough for this.
>>96492880Why Araith is so unpopular, while Evdokia is one of the most picked?Both are nascent powerhouses, liable to turn into a huge problem if not helped.Both are cute and bring interesting plot hooks.Yet Evdokia is 4 times more popular.
>>96493715Evdokia is like a bazillion times stronger
>>96493715Araith is a warrior.
>>96493715Evdokia sounds stronger and has a direct link to the bad guy.
>>96493711>You shoot down every other interpretationNo, I'm explaining my logic to you because you keep insisting that what I said doesn't make sense. The point, which you missed, of me listing multiple possible interpretations in my original post is that it's ambiguous. I was trying to highlight that an interpretation of the interaction is unclear, as a setup for asking for the author's ruling. I'm not going ahead with or doing anything unless I see what Tank said about it, which is also something I just said outright.
>>96492934She's strong for minionmaster characters, whether they're demon lord, lich king, general, or royal variety. Lets you train specialist units with all of the bullshit you got from other mentors
>>96493730>>96493741Evdokia isn't stronger, she's more versatile.
>>96493730She has a limited throughput, only expressing several spirits at a time and powering them herself. Even if they are perfectly picked for the situation, a giant ever-growing reality bending lizard-centipede sounds quite comparable to me.Both are stated to have a huge growth potential with unknown ceiling.
>>96493715Taking Evdokia directly sabotages one of Charlotte's plans. Taking Araith does not, it doesn't even hook into or interact with the Dragon King's national subplot, you just get a powerful companion.
>>96493660>>96493745If you could do that you would get 6 points back by using Missed Shape on both eyes, when Multiocular O only costs 3 points. Why are you so blatantly cheating when the blessing of [SRTR] is right there? And why are you asking to be spoonfed when there are already links to his Q&As? Here's a quote from the changelog:>60. Specified that slots for eyes gained via Multiocular O are not suitable for Missed Shape. What you have said is completely asinine and retarded, and a symptom of your utter lack of reading comprehension. Return to the fifth grade or kill yourself posthaste.
>>96493750If Araith dies with a hundred miles of Evdokia then she gets Araith as a summon, Evdokia is clearly stronger.
>>96493715I ran out of points
>>96493766It prevents another Dreadwyrm from potentially breaking down and launching her own subplot right into everyone's faces while you are already busy with Charlie.
>>9649378012th will handle it.
>>96493434You need to rest it but nothing about leaving the engagement
>>96493767>Why are you cheating?Why are you so hysterical? I'm asking for the author's ruling on the interaction, I'm not DOING anything. You're acting like I'm trying to one-up you in a fucking fight or something when I'm just asking for an author's clarification.>Here's a quote...Yeah that specifies that you can't sacrifice 10 eyes slots, says that the bottom of Missing Shape. The problem is that what's actually being asked is how having two natural eyes lost via Missing Shape interacts with having Multiocular O, because the two options aren't actually incompatible. If not incompatible, they must interact some way. How? That's all that's being asked.
>>96493715Araith is just overpriced. She's not even a true dragon, and the one who killed all the true dragons is a 4-point mentor. I like her, she's an interesting character and good waifubait, but she should cost at most 4 points, and there's an argument for 3.
>>96493786How many plots are going to get pushed on this fellow? imagine how stressed he'll during arrival. Better pray he's competent and good natured, else you're going to create a worse villain that Charlie at this rate.
>>96493798The encounter to rediscover True Dragon Solipsism with her is right there.
>>96493807>Clean it up, Twelfth!I'm sure nothing bad will come out of this.
>>96493767Do you consider it cheating for people to spend 2 AP and 5 DP on getting Adopted by Keter, then burning all of their languages except 2 or 3 for around 20 DP and potentially 8 or more AP (depending on what languages they pick)?
>>96493807He'll just give this anon Kako after reading his entry.
>>96493814>The encounter to have her die and get added to the nightmare is right there
>>96493798Bro she's an island-sized nightmare abomination with no growth limit in sight, she could probably solo the Eucumene's entire fleet. Wtf do you mean overpriced?
>>96493665General gameplan is traveling across the globe. Dungeoneering, ruins raiding, grabbing Gewrgin's corpse. If there's anything that hasn't been uncovered, we're out there looking for it. With [YMRD]'s favor I'll hope for smooth sailing but sometimes things need to get interesting to get any real progress. Polkan's the guy with the head for these kind of things, so he'll serve as a navigator of sorts. The ultimate ideas guy except his ideas lead to treasure galore. Ahelth is the pilot, and Gwriel, Nezvana, and Natalja will all act as companions for our motley crew once their respective encounters are done.Gwriel is an important setpiece however as Crown Into the Gutter will cut our journeying short and start the second act of our story. Overthrowing the Empire of Light and Dark to establish a stronger nation that won't fall to the whims of the Ecumene and be an actual presence that the other kingdoms can trust. Additionally with other Outsiders in play it'd make it a lot easier if everyone were able to make claims on the different kingdoms and rally together. Saw I landed on Buki, and I think I mesh well with a lot of those builds. Flagellant Gambler knows how to share his suffering with others in a far more direct way that I do, Ithyl Twynis is going for high stakes plays with Word of God which I might try to ask for tutorage in since I'm almost solely using Tsifra and might be able to piece it together and try reassembling the full knowledge of Charlotte's teachings, Y'Sereth is essentially making a kingdom of Majins to ally with, and Mer's seeking of magical knowledge in any and all places makes them a good candidate to try and bring along on expeditions.If the 12th could slap a Zemlya on me, I'd appreciate it a lot. Everlasting is cool if I get it in time, but if I don't I don't mind rockin the Undead look.
>>96493807I mean, how many plots are getting pushed on 11? More than we're going to realistically handle.12 will pick the plot threads that they choose to follow and somebody else will either handle the rest. Or they won't. That's how it's always been.
If it were contradicted by the text and weren't specifically confirmed as intended by the author then yes, I absolutely would.
>>96493814True dragons stopped existing because Vtorusha argued them out of existence, not because they forgot how to do True Dragon Solipsism. Picking that up won't make her a true dragon, it'll just let you study how true dragons happened so you can modify their methods and become the big bad of the setting yourself.
>>96487786>>96487807>>96487824This is so beautiful I feel a need to comment on that fact despite being a day late
>EvdokiaUnnotable Lich here, I somehow overlooked Evdokia when filtering Malice targets.Nobody on world Az has Evdokia as companion, so she'll be guided by Charlie's plot and will benefit her, so I really should Malice her.>Evdokia, slot A: Her'v' (death by political intrigue)Her'v' isn't a thematic fit here, but it was one of the less horrible A deaths I had left.My fellow Azians, MOONMAN, DEMONIC NIGHTMARE MAKER, SPEEDSTER SPIDER, HERO OF JUSTICE, VEË, JÖTUNNSDROTTNINGGEN, GOKU SASUKE MASTER CHIEF KAKAROT, AURUM ARC THE GOLDEN FINGER, any objection?
>>96493829>how many plots are getting pushed on 11?Just 3 as far as I can tell. 0^0 and the Eucumene is the most precessing one, followed by the Nightmare and Pandaemonium and finally the Uruk menace. Its not that far-fetched to finish them all, or at least reduce their threat level so that 12 won't be completely overwhelmed on arrival.
>>96493836Have you considered that what you consider a contradiction could be a subjective interpretation of ambiguous language, which could also be (subjectively, of course) interpreted in other ways? If so, have you considered that perhaps the goal of presenting alternative (subjective) interpretations was not to get some kind of advantage over you, but for the sake of seeking clarity?
>>96493829Those plot threads don't just passively exist, they interfere with your business and influence the world.If you don't pick Evdokia, for example, she doesn't suddenly disappear. She most likely goes on the Ecumene's side and you'll have to face her.This can be more or less applied to a lot of other plotlines people are trying to push on the Twelfth. He will arrive in around 80 years after you lose most of your fate guarantees, you still need to live in this world somehow,
>>96488101Ronin is clearly best.
>>96493851You know you can help her without being fated to, right?
>>96493822>One person, who is an imperfect copy of a long-dead race that lost to the Majin>Soloing the empire that's successfully genociding the Majin
>>96493853If you don't pick certain mentors or companions there are a lot of other plot points that can spiral out of control. Baf or Dei getting at corpse and restarting the Demon Lord production, Ota going with her genocidal plan, Araith slowly beginning the return of the True Dragons and Paxxia reigniting the conquest, Gisela becoming another nightmare bringer, Tenebrae ghosts slowly gaining power, the Old Throne being the old throne as always, etc.It's impossible to deal with everything in one go so there will be plenty future adventures for the 12 even if we deal with Charlie permanently.
>>96493896>"Rock losing to paper? Preposterous! Paper can't even beat scissors, let alone the mighty rock!"
>>96493798Seo was killed by true dragons and it seems like Araith is on another level. She's island sized right now with unlimited room for growth. If she really is the first of the new True Dragons then someone will have to Nash her to get rid of her like her predecessor.
>>96493907>Araith slowly beginning the return of the True DragonsThis is not a thing.
>>96493910War doesn't play by rock paper scissors rules outside of video games.
>>96493896We have no data on the sizes and combat abilities of the True Jobbers, most of them could be less impressive than Araith at peak size.Dragon Judje was almost solo carrying the Poluden campaign, while other dragons died in droves to the elfs, for example.Also, they were mostly killed off by Majin with a very specific esoteric interaction, inaccessible to Ecumene. Here a True Dragon can actually solo an army at least once, before they develop countermeasures.
>>96493807That one other outsider cleaned up previous plots quite well.
>>96493896>>Soloing the empire that's successfully genociding the MajinAre talking about the same Eucumene? the one that's been getting humiliated by a single Demon Lord for a century?
>>96493926He did too good a job, he's a lesson to always leave some plots for the next Outsider to take care of.
>>96493920Why are you so scared of the return of the True Jobbers anon?
>>96493920She was seemingly born randomly after a piece went missing from the Old Throne and Pantorai did all his crazy scientist experiments. Even if she's unique, her existing at all could meant that other lost eggs may hatch. And what about her children, how can you be sure that they wouldn't also share the fact that their bodies are those of True Dragons?Nothing is saying that they can't come back as a different species.
>>96493851Yes, she is cute and you shouldn't kill cute girlsI could fix her probably, so there's no reason to waste our chancesBesides, If she dies charlie can make another, but she can't make a second without diminishing the meaning
>>96493919She's one of the good ones, it'll be fine.
>>96493926>Man, this is boring! Where are all the evil looking emperors or all powerful liches to kill? Everything is so nice and peaceful>Well, seems I will have to take the role of future Outsiders Final Boss since no one is up to the taskAnd that's how Erginter was born.
>>96493919>True dragon>Not a malevolent piece of solipsistic shitNah
>>96493945>True JobbersYou're not ready for Trve Dragon anons soloing the entire Ecumene You're not ready for Trve Dragon anons genociding all Empyreans You're not ready for Trve Dragon anons singlehandedly eradicating all Uruks across the entire worldYou're not ready for Trve Dragon anons speedrunning Charlie
>>96493948Adding to this, dragons experience a resurgence every time the gods are distracted for any reason. With 0^0 suppressing the power of God-Script it may be a perfect opportunity for whatever left of them to be reborn in some capacity.
>>96493967Wait, so it's true that the Elder Gods are trying to kill off all the Ageless races?
>>96493963Yrde wasn't that bad. Probably.
Do i have to remind everyone that true dragons are the closest you get by nature (excluding the uruks) to pure evil? Why would you want them back
>>96493680Kek
>>96493967There is certainly a reason why as soon as the Gods were out of the picture, drakonids immediately started to establish their own realms after centuries of sitting quietly.
>>96493984I don't think anyone wants the original true dragons back, I think they all think they can improve on the design
>>96493984They were strong.
>>96493989They all immediately failed or got genocide by 0^0 too, so it's not like the Elder Gods not specifically writing plots to make them fall somehow magically made them more powerful or anything, they just had a brief opportunity to decide their own destiny. And failed. Only Pantorai's realm is left and from looking at the map, the only Drakonids still alive outside of his country are on a small island in the Old Throne's territory.
>>96493984They were leaders of a cult, who rose to almost divinity by genociding an entire continent of people. The rest were direct descendants of those people, raised by them in their traditions.It may be nurture, not nature.
>>96494001If they were strong how come they got unmade? Checkmate.
>>96494008Because Vtorusha was the strongest
>>96494008They met someone stronger.
>>96494008Vtorusha was the strongest TRVE DRAGON.
>>96493972Text suggests it's more letting them die than killing them off with the elves. True dragon solipsism is probably worse than undeath from the perspective of the elder gods, though. Not just stunting your own spiritual growth, but actively sabotaging that of others too.
>>96494003Yes, because they were not Dragons. This was a point for them being afraid of godly interference against anything drakonic, not for their power.If they are that cautious of gods, there should be a reason.
>>96494014>>96494018>>96494021Damn. That's a good point. *Ceases to exist*
>>96494026Mommy SRTR would never betray her little pogchamp.
>>96494028Another one jobbed.
>>96494030This but unironically.
>>96494022>True dragon solipsism is probably worse than undeath from the perspective of the elder gods, though. Not just stunting your own spiritual growth, but actively sabotaging that of others too.Why are they letting the 11th rediscover it? Are they betting on them making a better version, or is it another trap option?
>>96494035Probably the former, they are very busy at moment so its possible they just aren't paying attention.
>>96494035YMRD wrote the encounters (per Tank WoG), since SRTR was unavailable in her box. Could be a reset-the-world scheme. Could be her thinking it's cool as shit even if it's, you know, a bad idea to actually use it. You never know with her
>>96494030Of course! Just ask her previous pogchamp.
>>96494007Let's not forget that Vtorush and Pervak Bogdanoff were completely sane and humane people even with True Dragon Sollipsism.
>>96492981Ideal: SageI like seeing the future and having perfect memory better then the other options, and this helps a lot with the tech focusPerks:New & oldCharityAtlanteanHeritageThe hope is that I will equip the entire human race and use this to stack the charity bonus as high as I can goBurdens:Open heart>Just don't dieDeadline>Same total count, and gives me more time to scale at firstRaces:Humans>Basic worksmen to wire the electronics and work the machinery>Quantity is important hereElves>Longer lived workers to maintain knowledge and understanding at a higher rateEsoteric angels/Golems (Hybrid)>Central part of most ships>Each ship has a different magic effect built into it, the angels are linked with the entire shipFollower types(Humans)CivilainArcherWatchmenHunter>Manning the shipNeophyteCraftsmen>The majority of my forces, working to outfit the entire rest of humanity with tools and weapons>At first, we will give tools of self defense to everyone, but as the war goes on our direct allies will receive most of the weapons, and the less trustworthy will only receive supplies and medical equipment>Because these are always given freely with a genuine desire to help, I farm vril off thisHigher followers(Elves):ArtisanAlchemistSapperRitualist>Usually working with a squad of human apprentices or footsoldiersSender>Cheap communication, important>Alot of these are humans, hiding among the populace, as war crimes don't matter when you opponent plans on attacking citizens anyway(1)Captain(2)Paladin>The head of actual military operations both on and off shipsExemplar(Angel/golem):(3)Thaumaturge>A great forge for things that should not be(4)Valkyrie>Groups of these fly over the land and sea, dealing precision attacks and defending those in peril(5)Artillery>Esoteric machinery, further enhanced with parts and tools made by man>Most ships have one, but the largest can have many(1/2)
>>96494026They issue isn't with 'dragon', it's with them being Ageless, it makes gaining Meaning slower. It's why they were fucking over the elves too, they just preferred slow decline over sudden and total genocide like Charlotte did.
>>96493772Why would she die if she's so much stronger as a baseline? I guess she's stronger than an omnipotent being because that being MIGHT die? Thats retarded.
>>96494052Maybe they just think it would work great against Charlie. And if 11th gets too mad with power there is always 12th to fix that problem.
>>96494035Vtorusha had it, and still obtained Everlasting with JNPL as her patron god. It's probably not something inherently bad.
The story so far:>One dies. His remains are for some reason magical (because Gods liked him standing up for them against Vtorusha? or because of his name?)>Centuries pass>There's a language called Entramithraic in Poluden>Charlie uses One's corpse to make Entramithraic magical>Charlie also names herself 0^0 = One, now users of Entramithraic empower her>Charlie propagates the language so all of Ecumene empowers herIf I also named myself some variation of One, would all of Ecumene empower me also? Could we encourage every random peasant born in Doria to be named One?
>>96494061(2/2)(6)Oracle>Sometimes installed on larger ships to guide them(7)Resurrector>To purify(9)Collosus>Some ships are actually, in their entirety, angels>Although I will never say or imply this(10)Champion>Submarines to route out any threats beneath the seaEnemies removed:(Pharas, Giro,Attempt 7,Larav,Doctor Aeclas,The wispering stag)>These choices are longer then they are interesting, but basically as I have big cannons I expect to beat any amount of brute force, so I remove their subtler and smarter threatsGameplan:I start by summoning many guys in a costal city to work for free on rebuilding the technological superiority of menWe do this for free, and give our creations for free, so I hopefully get alot of vril from thisI try to expand as rapidly as I can before the demons arrive in full. I enact policies to have many elf children manually as to avoid their cost that I need not get intoAlso, If it is possible for angel-golems to breed I breed them (In whatever strange way that occurs)I would hope to double in population ever 3 years, only slowed down by concerns of childbirth interupting work effortsWhen humanity is back on it's feet or when the demons start showing in full I begin work on a full scale fleet. Targets near the cost are under my total control as artillery makes fortifications worthlessI am, regretably, Casual with (Physical) collateral, but humanity will thank me when this is all over. I can rebuild the hoses better anywayFuture sight means my men are usually in the right place at the right time with just enough firepower to make them completely overwhelmingAnything in from the host will either be suppressed by spies and hit teams or will be the responsibility of my alliesBy the time the archdemons can come through the gates I hope they are scared shitless and seeking peaceWhen that happens, I will kill all of them regardless and prepare to bring [Civilisation] To the savages on the other end of the portals
>>96494062Both are issues. The elves are only ageless, so the gods were mostly leaving them alone, just making sure their age is over.Dragons were both ageless and actively antagonistic to the very idea of the narrative, so they got bonked harder. Even their descendants were clearly on the shitlist, so they were not even trying to build an empire, while elves still had multiple countries.
>>96494052YRMD writes the deep lore if she writes something someone finds it and blows up the world with it that's not her problem(Has already happened)
>>96494068>Maybe they just think it would work great against Charlie.Charlie studied under Yrde, the last true dragon turned undead.Part of her False Ascension must have involved some sort of knowledge from their methodology.
>>96494073>because Gods liked him standing up for them against Vtorusha? or because of his name?If I had to guess, its because he had Icon of Icons, perhaps the boost remains active even after you die. Basically One's body is equivalent to that of a holy saint, which is in-character for him. I bet Mithra's body was dripping with magic after he ascended. Shame we don't know what happened to it.
>>96494102Tank directly said in comments, that she got to the Pillars by copying the method of Dragon Amalgamation. This is why Ameno can't be taken without Buki, the letter is needed to create your own passage there by exploiting fate.
>>96494102It was the godslaying part that she learned from the dragons. She used their portal to the pillars (still somewhere underground in the nightmare) and used their magic/argument-gun to kill JNPL. Empyreality was entirely Inga tho.
>>96494112I mean Mithraic and its variations are named after him. And he IS the icon of icons who teached One to how to icon
>>96494125>"Do everything by yourself, reject mentors!">achieved all her great feats by copying others through her mentorsCharlie is a hack.
>>96494135Because of that actually doing it that way will utterly dismantle her facade.
>>96494073Outsider remains have ended up magical pretty consistently. Vtorusha became the old throne. Savmak is the sword. Yphont's tomb holds back the nightmare in a small radius around it, and Jarnigit received her walk-through-nightmare blessing from her. Erginter's corpse is similarly a holy sight for the heterodoxy, and presumably blessings come from there.One was the student of Mithra and a champion of Mithraic humans, so his corpse was useful for what Charlie wanted to do to Entramithraic. He probably also could've been used to make Everman magical, since he was a champion of humanity and Everman is the language of humans.
>>96494149Everman as a language was created by the old thorne to suppres all local languages. I doubt Mithra's student and Vtorusha final enemy would be good for that.
>>96494149>Outsiders are just a source of magical raw materials, ready to be processedgrim
>>96494175Just like True Dragons.
>>96494175Except Tuzik. His remains are as magical as that of any other peasant.
>>96494175Picrel is us when the 12th arrives.
>>96494204>low quality pork
>>96494212Nah, we will be proud wild hogs.
>>96494204Tuzik's grave got nuked with the Orthrung, it's impossible to know if it was magical.Whether Sarmat's body has any magic is the important question. Since he was a king, he's probably entombed in New New York.
>>96494204They are probably still.magicsl and tied to his Meaning. However that Meaning was a simple peaceful life.Perhaps if you found it in the Orthrung continent you could perhaps magically plug it to the land to slowly restore it.
>>96494171That's it's history, but the outsider system/JNPL (hard to say which is talking there) makes it clear that Everman has taken on a life of its own and is becoming a genuine universal human language after multiple iterations of human empires adopting it for their own reasons. It was pushed by the Golden Tide in the past, and it's currently being pushed by Empire of Light and Dark
>>96488576>One left before being named by his parentsDid he untimeskip Mithra to obtain magical prowess on spawn?
>>96494212Charlie would never do that to me! She loves me!
>>96494273Probably just a tradition where they're not named until a certain developmental milestone. One would at least need to be able to walk before running away from home
>>96492889I like stealth.
>>96494337Don't we all?Whenever you don't know the odds, it doesn't hurt to hide
>>96494337That 'hide from the gods' lines just enables so many strategies that feel impossible otherwise.
>>96492877Why was Ielziaseh only taken 5 times? She’s the key to true ascension without reincarnation, and her perfect disguises and roles are great even without taking ascension into account.Are most of you guys planning on false ascension or reincarnation? Do so few not want to pull off perfect disguises and assign roles?
>>96494427If you're immortal you can learn that later
>>96494434She can help with that too. Losing oneself into a role is counted as a death for one of the letters, so LARP'ing as an imperial mage, elven survivor or what have you for half a century till the letter fucks off with her teachings is almost a free pass.
>>96494427I ran out of points and mentor slots
>>96494427I find myself cutting her because I expect her to be easy-ish to find (her languages strongly limit her location) and she's described as an eternal teacher, so if I'm gambling on earning a mentor manually I think she's one of the safer bets.
>>96494204Nah the area around his remains is the only comfy place left in that blasted hellhole. (Trust me bro i saw it in a dream)
>>96494427I am not in a hurry.
>>96494521The Uruk island is around his remains. They're slowly learning to be peasant farmers
>>96494416>Teach ??? to hide even harderImagine.
>>96494427I am taking her in my solo build.
>>96494427I gave her to Blazkho to turn him into a cute waifu
>>96494563Stygian Encounter does it, not her.
>>96494576Ielziaseh + Iotated Greater Yus + True Love + Wine is Thicker Than Water
>>96494563Is Blahzko the most optimal waifu?
>>96494662Omega make Elder Gods love you
>>96494149>her walk-through-nightmare blessingMaking this teachable and repopulating the underground outside of charly's reach would be a winning move no?
>everyone just ignored the OCHoly fuck Outer Retards need to be shot
Blazkho and Gunter as women would immediately designate the two as the SSS+ waifus. The former you can mold into whatever you'd like, and the latter might as well be your soulmate.
>>96494685I'm not really interested in dark overlord with a new coat of paint
>>96494685Where is your build?Also that was mostly the same as the last version. I liked it alot but I can see why people wouldn't have much to say
what do i do when someone else already made the build i wanted to make?
>>96494713Make it better
>>96494685Opened it a new tab, will browse once the itch hits
>>96494713Make a build that directly opposes that one as revenge.
>>96494713Make it a sibling.
>>96494713Make them your rivalBe edgier or less edgy then them, parrallel them in some wayIt will be cool and add to both builds
>>96494713alcoholism and suicide
>>96494713Accept reality. Make the same build.
>>96494713Marriage
>>96494427I took her but I haven't posted my build.
>>96494685Calm down my nigger, anons are still formatting their builds.
>>96494427I took her as a key piece of an alt build but I haven't posted it, and likely never will
>>96494689>GunterWhy are shonen anime rivals always bara-bait when I want the exact same thing but waifu-bait
>Looking through the archive to resolve the Multiocular question>This same debate has happened at least 3 times before, going back to the original version>Multiple people have reached conclusions agreeing with me, or with the other guy so there was never any consensus>If Tankista ever clarified the answer, such an answer was never reposted hereSurely someone on reddit had to ask at some point.
>>96494810A rival is meant to be an equal
>>96494810To prevent (You) from ruining the rivalry dynamic by cooming instead of doing whatever rivals are supposed to do.
>>96494822What if anon is also waifu-bait?
>>96494826This makes Omega rival in question.
>>96494815Does missed shape give you empty eye sockets or make it so your skull never had any?
>>96494810>waifu-baitExactly. If your friendly enemy is a hot chick then you're going to collapse the dynamic by recognizing each other as perfect lovers.
>>96494834I think it's empty sockets, since it's implied to be something you can fix. Having no orbits is like, a serious deformation.
>>96494835Yes but you could still get a solid 5 years inAfter 5 years you may as well move on, to get more meaning
>>96494839Then the multiocular strat should work, I don't like it cuz it's free points, but it should work.
>>96494427Ielziaseh is kinda overrated imo. Her benefits on start appearing way after finishing the main storyline. It won't help you in any way against Charles.
>>96492981I glanced the more text-heavy parts, so this is more vibe than analysis build. I'll read it all later... This ended up with similar choices to the other build posted earlier, though mine is land-based while he likes seamen.>Ideal: Sage>Blessings: City of God, Ascent, New and Old, Aura>Burdens: Billions Must DieTurtling strategy against a sea of enemies. Build formidable defenses to hold key areas and to create killzones, and slowly extend the works to gain more secure ground from the enemy. Sage's powerful divination should be of great aid in making the correct preparations. By moving forces across frontlines in advance of enemy assaults, I can gain local superiority even though heavily outnumbered overall. Technology makes all this much more effective with railway networks as just one example.>Races: Plant Spirits, Water Spirits, Earth Spirits, Elves (Own Race)The spirits work to create fortifications and produce resources, with notable good synergy for food production. They also act as powerful elementalists and bruisers in the army. Elves fill the other roles with their resilience and wisdom helping them stay strong and setting them to greatly benefit from Ascent.>Followers: Civilian, Watchman, Archer, Neophyte, Miner, Paladin, Grenadier, Druid, Artisan, Giant, Champion, Valkyrie, General, Artillery, ResurrectorLots of ranged power and defensive units to man the bastions, and crafting units to build and supply them. I don't use mounts, but Valkyries form a mobile task force. As many of the battles are defensive, resurrectors ar ebetter be able to keep casualties low (and Aura gives additional recovery). When on the offensive, I'll punch through with giants and champions and follow up by erecting fieldwork.>Archdemon Vassals: Pharas, Giro, Likinias, Lavras, Doctor Aeclas, The Screeching WyvernTake out smarter enemies (and fliers) to force them to throw meat into the grinder.
>>96494834It should be something like a stump since you were never supposed have anything in that socket. Fixing it would require directly changing your body, just like you cannot regenerate an arm if you never had any in the first place.
>>96494847Yeah there's a logic to it working, but is it intended to work? We can see from the Keter trick (Tankista treating 'Any' like it means 'All') that sometimes his word choices aren't 100% exactly matched to his intentions. Might be an ESL thing (and I don't mean that harshly.)
>>96494848If you perfect her role-inflicting to the same level that Charlie perfected causality, it's probably equally powerful. As the system says in the Unnotable Ones entry, people's actions can be predicted by reviewing their backstories and character. You can control those with Ielziaseh's magic, at least in theory.
>>96494863Anon, you can't have 'stump' eyesockets.
>>96494886I want to look up this kind of birth defect but I'm not scarring myself for an internet argument.
>>96494875No way to know until someone asks him
>>96494886I think he means that there's just a patch of skin where you're eyes are supposed to be.
>>96494685I just got home bro chold
>>96494886
Just steal eyes to reload your multi O retards
>>96494904Well if you don't have sockets that's not actually something you can fix, and Missing Shape is intended to be something you can theoretically fix.>>96494910Because 'stump' means that it's been cut off or was grown short. Like a tree stump. Here the eyesockets have been grown over with skin, or don't exist.
Who is the most underrated mentor?
>>96488576Updating Æra (Glagoli tide) since I noticed I had consistently misread the Entramihtraic polyglot bonus being for not inheriting it when actually it was the opposite. I'll swap it to Everman and change Thonodreth's death letters. Points stay the same since I now need once less Tutored.>Mother: Thonodreth-From-Agartha (Myslete + Yee)>Languages: Polyglot, Quietened (Late Thulean), Palatiner, Sylphid, Spriggan, Everman , Tutored (Palatiner x1, Everman x3)
>>96494925Nezvana
>>96494916I think people are mostly concerned with how they're going to be as children before someone teaches them the Uchiha interchangeable eye spell.
>>96494927>ÆCute Majin
>Multi-ocular O>10x view of fore>Throughbreeding>Inborn gift stealingJust keep having children, and use them to replenish your eyesYou could be invincible
>>96494931Just grab a spoon and be very careful
>>96494937I'm 100% certain that there's a hell of a lot more involved in putting someone's eyeballs into your head and having them work.
>>96494936Based, fund it, make the build
>>96494925Zu'us
>>96494930Nezvana was fairly popular in the V1 Tide.
>>96494886Anophthalmia is a condition where the eye is not properly formed during gestation and in smee cases you just end up with skin tissue over the orbit of the eye.I just looked it up and the pictures weren't pretty.
>But in short, Inga Yesod was among the first people to be alarmed by the progression of the nightmare and was implementing all sorts of measures to counteract it. First, she thought that since the world is changing, humanity just has to adapt to the nightmare and embrace it instead. But after experiments on that front were unsuccessful, she started doing the opposite and rooting it out like no one did before. Most people did not understand it and thought she was just being a tyrant or delusional. She was quite successful, but it would do little good if her efforts would be undermined by other states just letting the nightmare through. So she wanted to unify the continent and finish the job.In modern day, Empire of Light and Dark picked up the torch and does similar things but on much lesser scale within its borders - its why its color is Nightmare Blue, and why the kingdom of Tenebrae thought they were the second coming of the Dual Nightmare Monarchy and resisted.It seems Inga is much more important than originally anticipated.
>>96494930Literally the only mentor where the CYOA flat out tells you that you can figure out what she teaches yourself. The fact that she costs any points at all is a crime, let alone costing more than Kashtanka
>>96492981>Ideal:Magician>Blessings:Noosphere, New and Old, Unity, Disciples (Thaumaturge, General, Oracle, Obfuscator)>Burdens:Billions Must Die>Races:Homunculi, Golems, Homunculus/Golem Hybrids>Follower Types:Regular: Civilian, Watchman, Medic, Neophyte, Craftsman, MinerHigher: Illusionist, Scryer, Artisan, Alchemist, RitualistExemplar: Thaumaturge, General, Hierophant, Teleporter, Elemancer, Artillery, Abjurer, Resurrector, Oracle, Obfuscator>Dead Vassals:Pharas, Duke Ulman, Likinia, Larav, Doctor Aeclas, The Whispering StagWithout their information gathering and tactically minded Vassals, my forces will run circles around the Demons. Sabotage, false flagging, and all sorts of other subterfuge is easy. I will redirect rift locations to be close to each other to maximize their infighting. While they are busy killing each other, my forces will develop technology and magic with humans. The core of everything is stealth: as long as the Demons don't know that I'm the one behind all their woes and am preparing superweapons to nuke them on entry, they are doomed.
>>96494961Tank also said he made an Outsider-style entry for her at one point, giving more weight to the "Inga is an Az-anon" theory
>>96494960Technically if there are eyes there is it really 'missing' a shape though?
>>96494961Inga Yesod was/is the most important person in the post-Mithra world who isn't an Outsider.
>>96494976What? Inga isn't an outsider.
>>96494962Nobody has time to experiment with Charlie breathing down our necks.
>>96494962Its getting the ability to know how it can all flow together instead of having to do it entirely by yourself which is the valuable part. For people with riskier builds it can be extremely useful to have someone who's able to link it all together instead of you slipping up during your training and something going terribly wrong. Remember, just cause we can't die before our death letter is resolved doesn't mean we can't get fucked up before then.Plus you can build on top of her teachings with the time you saved. Accelerated growth can do wonders for even more growth.
>>96494984>Charlie breathing down our necksHot
>>96494927>Only 3 parents know entrashit>Simka, the Charlie simp heretic and Jdan's treacherous sonWhy is Charlie's language so shit bros? She could at least offer more benefits for learning and spreading it.
>>96494961She put on Malkuth's throne if/when Dirk kicks the bucket. She's way more competent than Maoisara.
>>96494983He's referring to her being a Fake Outsider. The theory came up before so your surprise seems out of place.Though I disagree with it as well - isn't it outright stated in the Outer Tide that multiple Outsiders at once never happened before?
>>96494982>her research led to Charlie fucking up the Elder Gods and changing the very face of the worldShe sure is.
>>96494997*She should be putdamn speedtyping
>>96494992She literally doesn't want us to live in an Entramithraic-speaking country. The gain-cost ratio is too skewed for comfort.
>>96494992It gives Zhivete, I find it quite valuable.
>>96494962It says you could potentially learn those combinations yourself, just like how you could potentially track down other mentors and force them to teach you the lessons. You can assume that there's a possibility of failure and doing it wouldn't be covered by the system.. it's like saying why you should take caster intuition if you can potentially cast anyway with enough practice and understanding of meaning.
>>96495005But why is that? Seems that she would profit from us speaking it so why?
>>96494997>MaoisaraThe obvious writing intent with her is to have a sad mom who needs your support and appreciates you, but anons just won't stop shit talking her.
>>96494983She was born on the right day to a reasonable parent candidate, had lots of inborn gifts, and discovered multiple secrets in line with what we can get from encounters. Nothing is saying that 11th is the first time the gods tried multiplayer
>>96495018Maoisara's reputation is tarnished due to her being a shameless pointcow. Every build that picked had meaningless behaviour in mind.
Is Charlie seducing the 11th into complacency on the table? Asking for a friend.
Remember that you're not actually the main character unless you take Vigilant Strand.
>>96495016Because she, like you, understands that you shouldn't risk a crippling disadvantage just to enable a minor, generic benefit.
>>96495041She's good for a multiocular martial on her own, but well, martials.
>>96494962The cyoa also mentions there's a chance of you hurting yourself trying to figure it out. So it's a choice between a guarantee that you can make everything synergize or trying to figure it out yourself, and probably hurting yourself, depending on what you're trying to combine.
>>96495041Unironically I never even considered her due to obviously overpowered she is
>>96492981>every build has taken New and OldTechGODS....
>>96494945Just change the name written in the eyes to yours anon
>>96495057High-tech angelic aesthetics is cool
>>96495041The worst is that I really wanted double Overflowing Pupil for a build I was thinking, and it was either her or Unnr but the fact that it is such a cheap option just takes away the desire to try it. She doesn't even have the Dark Elf problem of being a cursed and almost useless parent.
>>96494962Yeah and you can theoretically learn anything so why pick mentors at all? just burn all your future you don't need it
>>96492981TitanZalmoxis, City of GodHumans (me), Elves, DwarvesCivilian, Warrior, Watchman, Hunter, Medic, NeophyteKnight, Paladin, Grenadier, Ranger, IllusionistChampion, Thaumaturge, Valkyrie, Slayer, General, Sword Saint, Hierophant, Teleporter, Grandmaster, ElemancerPharasDuke UlmanAttempt SevenGrendMarinScreeching WyvernI skimmed everything except instructions and purchased the first options but now with a build I can reincarnate in this world which is the most important thing.
>>96494925Based on numbers in the spreadsheet, Vu'uk. She's niche but she's mandatory for the Esu+Dream Passage x2 "Hide everyone you care about in a custom dungeon where she'll never find you" strat, which someone should've gone for. Also she helps you gish as a pixie, which is good for not dying if you ever have to fighf.
>>96495093Wish i could afford her desu. I can't buy a mentor slot
>>96495079>the fact that it is such a cheap option just takes away the desire to try it. She doesn't even have the Dark Elf problem of being a cursed and almost useless parent.??????
>>96495125Some people are so averse to power-gaming that they turn around and become a mirrored but equivalent kind of problem-player
>>96495063That's probably how it works magically but that's a spell, you'd need to learn that spell and a spell to grow the eyes to your ocular nerves so you can see through them. Not impossible, but how are you going to do that as a baby?
>>96495100I did the hide-in-dream-realm thing in version 1, and I didn't have any desire to repeat it in the update, but she'd have been an auto-include in my v1 build.I also think she makes a cute dice fudge couple with Sharik
>>96495125The idea was always to go Unnr and buy the eyes but they are so expensive that it is much easier to just go for Maoisara which would go against the whole point of having Kuz'ma fuck Dirk's mom. And having Multiocular O is also great for reviving Vtorusha but again, too costly.Is it even worth it to continue with the build if you cannot make the joke that gave rise to it?
>>96495168Maiosara makes a great pair with Vadim I think, though the Tumen would fucking sperg out.
>>96495046>No cool helmets or hats>Emotional dead-tellno thanks
>>96495184Yeah, the Tumen are honestly kinda crazy. When I had her as an adopted parent, I had her just leave, she would be happier that way.
>>96495206It would point dead at Nilmatrix at all times.
I hate muddish. Worst humans.
>>96495212I kinda love it. Like JNPL was the only thing keeping those fuckers even close to the rails
>>96495093>She's niche but she's mandatory for the Esu+Dream Passage x2 "Hide everyone you care about in a custom dungeon where she'll never find you" strat, Why? Dream Passage already gives almost everything she has to teach expect her fighting style.
>>96495218They utterly failed the Sierogrivians, so you're right to.
>>96495218I dislike how they founded civilization and invented reading and thinking.
Thoughts on far graze and sight beyond sight interactions?
>>96495217Its already been said a million times that no Inborn Gift can alert you to Nil's betrayal. Its impossible per WoG. There are ways to shut down Inborn Gifts, see Fot.
>>96495225Dream passage does nothing other than let you ferry people in. If you're hiding in a dungeon, you want to stay in as long as possible, not leave regularly to gather supplies, because leaving the dungeon is how people find you. That's the exact problem she teaches you how to solve.
>>96495225Dream Passage does absolutely nothing other than let you break the rules of the amount of people entering the dungeon. You would still need to explore it and learn how they work yourself.Where did this thought that this one point gift did all these impossible and amazing things came about?
>>96495240Can alert *you*Other people can figure out why your strand is tweaking while you are fatally retarded.Also, non-Shadow of God Nilmatrix is a thing, even if anons like to pretend she isn't.
>>96495241>>96495245It also gives you a minimap and trap sense (paraphrasing), but yea it doesn't solve the dungeon for you
>>96495237There are none. The range of far graze is ~ as far as visual range, which is used as an example; it is not dependent on visual range.
>>96495218I agree, partially because I hate brown hair (ugliest hair color) and partially because their massive ego and ridiculous spite for every other human race on the continent keeps fucking over Doria's potential. Also that fucking chair of theirs is ending the world.
>>96495184No her perfect pair is definitely Sawarmag, they almost perfectly compatible.>Both Southlanders>Similar ages>Compatible personalities >No overlapping Gifts>All of their Gifts combined makes a potent Eye/Martial build.
>>96495237I would accept far graze 3 being able to hit things from a ridiculous radius as long as you can see them and point towards them. Doing that for the other two levels seems a little too strong but doable with enough practice perhaps.That said, my main thought when reading Far Graze was to make a Vergil so just do what you want.
>>96495265Sawarmag is a retard though, who wants to tear the Empire apart in the middle of the fight against the Ecumene.
>>96495241>Dream passage does nothing other than let you ferry people in. *sigh* Another Readlet.>>964952452 Readlets in a row? That's gotta be a new record!
>>96495226Damn right.
>>96495275Can't even On him, is the worst part
>>96492638Vigilant Strand. Massive social malus.
>>96495289>2 Readlets in a row? That's gotta be a new record!It really really really isnt
>>96495240It can alert you of someone that is about to stab you when it happens though
>>96495296>social malusJust be sincere and it is a bonus
>>96495262>>96495266Fair. Better take another body gift.
>>96495206It makes wizard hats stand proudly though.
>>96493952Name yourself!
>>96495311I took it to increase the autism quotient of my build.
>>96495289It's not as if anything which wasn't mentioned is relevant. Dream Passage doesn't give you dungeon food.
>>96495324Moonman
>>96488576Finally, more builds than not have described their Autoantecedence abilities.
>>96495259Its waay more than a minimap:>Dungeon Sense>Internal structure map, complete with traps and rooms location.>Navigation Sense >People Tracker >Monster Tracker >Loot SenseIts ridiculous people are still trying to lowball how broken Dream Passage in terms of Dungeoneering aid.>>96495303I'm not even going to entertain your retardedness. I'll just point and laugh at you while you make a fool of yourself.>>96495332>muh dungeon foodI'm not spending 2dp on fucking food lmao, if you still can't find with the tools given to you by Dream Passage you are literally more retarded than the goblins inhabiting the Dungeons.
>>96495240>There are ways to shut down Inborn Gifts, see Fot.I wonder if he could shut down 0^0 too. That'd be a funny scene.
>>96495367I was thinking of using Tenyota on Fot to turn his Gift-killing talent into an anti-gift spell and spreading everywhere. Imagine how game breaking that would be, Outsiders will start jobbing to regular conscript-wizards. A complete equaliser.
>>96495367You know, you could probably steal Fot's letter by giving him Lyudi and making sure you learn letter-extraction somehow (either from the Demonhunt or Palatiner insular bonus)
>>96495355>I'm not even going to entertain your retardednessI was saying this general is readlet central and two in a row is nothing. Maybe you...didn't read closely enough.
>>96495367Turns out he was right. He is the Chosen One.
>>96495355They can obviously be helpful, but if you plan on surviving inside one or trying to get the most out of them then a bonus in how to properly bypass everything there is still great. Vu'uk is for those who really want to commit to the dungeon exploration and research.
>>96495396First, Tenyota only works on gifts. Second, Fot's ability is already a spell.
>>96495396Fot skill isn't a gift but his Majin spell, Tenyota would have no effect on him.Izbor and the Daemonhunt on the other hand would be great for it once you kill him and extract his letter, but it should be almost impossible to replicate. You could perhaps get a demon lord to prepare a similar template to reproduce but that would be up to individual affinity with it.
>>96495367Ota is evidence that a majin letters would work. It was my plan in v1.
>>96495403>epic fight against the Usurper>latin choir is singing, mountains are crumbling>you are laying on the ground, ready to be Ketered>suddenly, Fot walks around a piece of debris with, looking like the smuggest asshole in the world>he stands in a chuuni pose and demands everyone to kneel before him>depowered Charlie falls to the ground, breaks her neck>Fot is the true hero, naked statues of him everywhere>you are forever known as that one outsider, who was lucky to be a child of great Fot
>far grazewasted pointssimply become strong enough to create damaging air blasts with your punches
>>96495463Tragically not possible without magical assistance. Peak human in OR is only slightly higher than earths peak human as per WoG.
>>96495484The best martial builds have spiritual feel, caster intuition, and Icon of Icons. Your only other choice is being a fundamentum chad like Sarmat and Savmak.
I feel compelled to defend the Muddish.King Jdan is acting according to keikaku.Ruzhana and Vadim are decent parents.Mlada is a good Mentor option.Most Muddish Companion representatives are great.Old Throne cannot be blamed for defending itself throughout its history and they were never fully conquered even once, while everyone else keeps falling apart.The Old Throne is not to blame for the nightmare - that's more on True Dragons and Majin using every opportunity to pollute the dream.And brown hair is perfectly normal. Ginger is the actual ugliest hair colour.
>>96495484It's a low magic setting, so nothing too crazy there.Fireball spells are not DnD fireballs, they are closer to grill ignition flashes. That's why trolls were unbeatable until guns were made.Word of God you know.
>>96495513And the only reason they couldn't help tge Sierogrivians is that the fucking Southlanders spilled everywhere yet I don't see anyone getting mad at them for genociding everyone.
>>96495513>Ginger is the actual ugliest hair colourRzheitebros, how do we respond?
>>96495525>trolls were unbeatable until guns were madewas it ever specified if muskets did the job or good ole artillery
>>96495525>Fireball spells are not DnD fireballs, they are closer to grill ignition flashes. That's why trolls were unbeatable until guns were made.Thank god we know that the vast majority of the worlds spellcasters don't have either spiritual feel or caster intuition, and having even one is enough to make you one of the best of your generation.
>>96495510You can get your magical support by resonating with Meaning even if you don't understand it intellectually like a caster would. See Xet, Upunth, Strokrad, and Jarnigit.
>>96495525Yup, and skeletons necromancers create are no larger than that of a chiken. Big dogs are a domain of archmages, this is WoG.
>>96495562That would be a based setting.
>>96495529>RzheitebrosYou mean the weird Southlander/Muddish halfbreeds?
I just headcanon the low magic shit out. OR is medium magic level to high magic for the top end to me and everyone in my tide.
>>96495550He brings this up every thread, and every thread he ignores the same obvious points about ungifted people sucking at magic and the examples we have in the CYOA being obviously more powerful than grill ignition flashes
>>96495525That doesn't seem right given how other magic is described, while it may be low fantasy I would assume a fire ball is on the level of a grenade, which while being effective against enemy soldiers (Explaining why the EoLaD values wizard conscripts), would not be particularly useful against something the size of a hill, this is also more consistent with defensive charms being capable of trivially blocking bullets.
>>96495463>simply become strong enough to create damaging air blasts with your punchesBut I already have Jet Kick on my arm for that...
If you're allowed to uplift the world's tech, why not uplift its magic as well? Surely you're smart and mystical enough to do that.
>>96495583You are the one ignoring WoG on the subject to justify how you would be able to do anything you want with magic.Which is fine, nothing is stopping you from making the story you want. But it is not the point the setting is trying to make.
>>96495614bro, your Tsifra?
If I take Thaumiel as my adopted mother and theta Katya, will Tam love me?
Does OR really sound Low Magic?"Low magic"describes a fantasy world where magical powers and items are rare, subtle, and often mysterious or feared, rather than a common or easily accessible force. Magic in these settings often has grounded, realistic limitations, is used by only a few individuals, and might only provide subtle enhancements to existing abilities instead of creating dramatic new effects. Popular examples of low magic worlds include Game of Thrones and The Lord of the Rings. Characteristics of a Low Magic Setting Rarity of Magic: Magic is not commonplace; few people ever witness it. Subtle & Grounded Effects: Magic tends to be subtle, with effects that are difficult to distinguish from luck or natural ability, such as making someone slightly stronger or more charismatic. Mysterious & Feared: Magic is often misunderstood, feared, or viewed with suspicion by the general populace, making those who wield it an anomaly. Limited Accessibility: Magic items are difficult to find, create, or use, and might be limited to specific ingredients, regions, or individuals. Focus on Realism: The world's tone can be more grounded and realistic, resembling real-world history and social structures. Storytelling Emphasis: The scarcity of magic can emphasize compelling storylines, character relationships, and the inherent danger of using such rare powers. How it Differs from High MagicIn contrast to high magic settings where magic is a common, integral part of the world and accessible to many, low magic places significant restrictions on its use and manifestation. Magic in high-magic settings often drives the plot, while in low-magic settings, it serves to highlight the contrast between the magical and the mundane.
>>96495614I've been saying that someone should take Tenyota and turn starsight, inner vision, blazing seal, azure wreath and kneeling twilight into disciplines. Take Nezvana too so you can combine them into one discipline.
>>96495627ai?
>>96495513>RuzhanaThe woman who is actively enflaming the Exarchate's civil war and empowering pro-Charlotte factions?
>>96495620Point to the exact quote where Tank says magic can't do the things it's described in the CYOA as doing.You can't, because it doesn't exist. Low magic refers to the fact that random peasants can't do shit. The abilities described in the CYOA actually do function as described in the CYOA
>>96495620Judging by the examples in the CYOA (and I am talking about regular mages), you and 3_tankista just have a different meaning of 'low magic'.His 'high magic' is Convention and Blood Magic, where people casually break out time travelling magic missiles in a street fight.
>>96495513>The Old Throne is not to blame for the nightmareLiterally every use of the chair empowers it.>Brown hair is normalNormally ugly. It looks like shit.
>>96495627It's low magic for the average unnotable one and high magic for the average Outsider party.
>>96495552>You can get your magical support by resonating with Meaning even if you don't understand it intellectually like a caster would. See Xet, Upunth, Strokrad, and Jarnigit.Which inborn gifts would such a theoretical build have? I'm guessing either Inner Vision or Azure Wreath right?
>>96495638Not all Whites are automatically pro-Ecumene. And it's all part of the smokescreen anyway.
>>96495640Every fucking peasant knows two magic letters of power.
>>96495513>Most Muddish Companion representatives are great.I can't think of a single Muddish companion I like.
>>96495656It's literally Azure Wreath
>>96495638>The woman who is actively enflaming the Exarchate's civil war and empowering pro-Charlotte factions?And it's written in stone that she's a piece in Jdan's 5D chess.
>>96495660>knowing means they can use itYour Spiritual Feel? Your Caster Intuition?
>>96495525>he fell for the low magic meme lmao
>>96495650>Literally every use of the chair empowers it.If I poison your water supply, will you blame the water source and wish to destroy it too?>looks like shitYeah, well, your face is stupid. How about that?
The Muddish are Vtorusha's chosen people.
>>96495657Unsactioned Whites are, which is who she's empowering. If she was just boosting Whites (pro-Outsiders) in general you could argue Jdan's plan is to make it easier for (You) to seize control over the Exarchate. But since it's the banned pro-Charlotte ones, that's fucking you and the Blues over.
Your Outsider is weaker than my Blazhko.
>>96495680Engaging in time travel every time you lose a fight is not equivalent to drinking water.
>>96495660Being aware of them doesn't mean you can invoke their meaning to cast spells
>>96495656Azure Wreath, Kneeling Twilight, Inner Vision definitely. Wisdom and Attentiveness should help too, since Xet's mentorship describes the process of attunement as "practice and intent"
>>96488576Is this a correct interpretation of Rhucuphre's timeline?Rhucuphre's Timeline-999: Born to the Maevian Kingdom.-???: Rhucuphre is appointed as a Councillor of the Provisional Gathering.-725: Rhucuphre kills the Old Emperor.-666: Eirina is born.-???: Eirina is appointed as a Councillor of the Ancestral Privy.-550: Erlking fights the Wild Hunt War.-510: Rhucuphre seizes control of the Sefirot Forests, declaring the Terrestrial Entente.-???: Rhucuphre learns Late Thulean from the Eternal Empire.-375: Rhucuphre fakes her own death, Entente collapses.-???: Rhucuphre-from-Maeve is discovered as the Emperor's Assassin.-???: Rhucuphre learns Drakonian from the Dragon Sage.-300: Rhucuphre is chosen as Erginter's mentor for the Iotated Az trick.-???: Rhucuphre survives Yat, forgets Drakonian and inverts into Eirina.-200-165: Eirina learns Numerology from 0^0.-000: Due to Yat, both Rhucuphre and Eirina are chosen by the Outsider System.
>>96495685Sorry, but your Blazhko doesn't exist in my world.
>>96495682And Vtorusha is a loser.
>>96495576>I just headcanon the low magic shit out. >OR is medium magic level to high magic for the top end to me and everyone in my tide.I still don't know what the fuck was Tank on when he made that post. Literally who gives a fuck if its high, low or whatever? it doesn't add anything to the setting in anyway other than spark inane discussions and fuel no-fun spergs.
>>96495698>Rhucuphre = Eirina This theory is ass.
>>96495684There are no details of what classifies unsanctioned Whites. It could be groups wishing to drop the Elder Gods and worship only the two kings for all you know. No mention of pro-Charlie ones being banned either. It's just anything that isn't mainstream Heterodoxy.
>>96495695I still don't get how Spiritual Feel is different from Wisdom. Like, Serebryanka and Elyon both have those things without being casterstacies, how does it factor into what they are?
>>96495711The point was to emphasize that your above average mage isn't a one-man-army and the nation's militaries are still relevant.
>>96495717>Total eccentric = Utterly unhinged.Are you going to tell me that Charlotte isn't 0^0?
God it reeks in here
>>96495749Charlotte took on the name of 0^0. Both Eirina and Rhucuphre are living at the same time as two separate entities. Why do I need to spell this out?
>>96495734He should've just said that instead of using a controversial words he doesn't understand.>>96495645This is probably it. Blood Magic and its consequences has been a disaster on the powerscaling race.
>>96495773>Iotated Lesser YusNot that anon, but you made me think of it
>>96495783>Blood Magic and its consequences has been a disaster on the powerscaling race.Powerscalers always deserve even worse.
>>96495698I have them both in my single player build. I think I'm fucked.
>>96495773She's one the greatest living magic users in the world. A body double spell isn't out of the question for her.
>>96495783He did say it...
>>96495711Since there are no hard rules on magic, I'm sure he was trying not to make it seem extremely overpowered. Like, nothing is stopping you from saying "I will research a spell to kill all Empyreans at once because I studied the meaning of Khier for a few years" but if that were intended then all the other choices would feel weak and things like guns being powerful or Charlie defeating magic would make no sense.The most sensible way I think of it is that regular magic shouldn't be outright better or more convenient than Inborn Gifts, so there shouldn't be a simple bulletproof spell that makes the Inborn Gift pointless. It could exist but there should be limitations to how it can be used that hold it back from being easily spammed, like it only stopping a few bullets before losing meaning and the like.
>>96495783>He should've just said that instead of using a controversial words he doesn't understand.That's exactly what was said.
Even if most individual mages are not that impressive, the setting itself definitely isn't low magic. They build flying cities and it is not some forbidden lost knowledge, just expensive. The mountains of Bastionaria were literally turned into fortresses, no way they did it with picks. The explanation for how bronze age civilisation was capable to control multiple continents is literally 'magic'.These are all not some one-off feats of high powered individuals, just regular parts of the setting's infrastructure.
>>96495773There's magic that can split people into two conterminous incarnations in this world.
>>96495800I only regret that I have but one Ouk to give to my mother
>>96495773>Magician without parallel.The Truth is right there Anon. When their singular greatest work is a stupid fucking wordplay, do you think Ms. Thousand Year Old Sage doesn't have some just lying in plain sight?
>>96495800True Love both
>>96495850If they turn out to be different people, he is now in a love triangle with two of the strongest mages in the world.
The mightiest race in OR is, without any question, the pixies.
>>96488576One may imagine OR's power levels like a xianxia:1. Mortal-Qi Condensation: The vast majority. Unnotable Ones, Opoia, Alisa, Nezvana, etc.2. Foundation Establishment: The normal top. Feodora, Lyndis, Dirk Yesod, etc.3. Golden Core: Old monsters or "cheaters". Most previous Outsiders, Rhucuphre, Zenia, and Nilmatrix.4. Nascent Soul: Those that have dipped a toe into the divine. Charlotte, Vtrorusha with mech, and the embodiment of True Dragons as a race.5. Immortal: The Elder Gods. JNPL, SRTR, YMRD, and Mithra.
>>96495807>so there shouldn't be a simple bulletproof spell that makes the Inborn Gift pointless. It could exist but there should be limitations to how it can be used that hold it back from being easily spammed, Um... anon there's literally a mentor that teaches you exactly that. Zlata's defensive aura invalidates Bulletproof Skin in everyway while being cheaper...
>>96495859Even better
>>96495863But I fucking hate xianxia
>>96495863>nascent soul killed and usurped an immortalKEK
>>96495802She wants revenge for the curse, if she could easily turn back into a regular Eldar then she wouldn't be a Dark Elf anymore.I'm not saying they aren't related but as presented in the options they are currently two different people.
>>96495850I will True Love and By Design Eirina and Tsy Rhucuphre. I think Eirina's personality is better, so she should stay.
>>96495875And that is why the Elder Gods pretending is not a theory but fact.
>>96495875Typical MC plot armor in action
>>96495863Fuck no, please, no bullshit Xianxia powerlevels. I prefer a world where even an emperor with Icon of Icons can die from a well placed backstab.Also, if it worked by Xianxia rules, armies really would be mostly pointless, which goes very much against authorial intent.
>>96495885Depends on the xianxia desu
>>96495863They all job to triple witchshot.
>>96495865And Zlata is a freak from the Daemonhunt who holds a unique post and who doesn't actually block bullets, the text says that proyectiles will warp around the user. As all spells, they are limited by meaning and she warns you you are not invincible with it.
>>96495885That's boring, emperors should die in big climactic fights, like Gewgrim dying to Nilmatrix.
>>96495877I said a "body double" spell, not a race swap one. Eirina could just be using a shapeshifting spell to appear as an Eldar.
>>96495899*armies of ordinary people, who never meditated on the Exalted Dao of Thinking Up Long And Pointless Names For Your Navel Gazing Murderhobo Technique would be pointless, which is clearly not the case from the existence of levies.Better?
>>96495877My thoughts were that,0. The Majin, the 'injustice', and the curse are just ingredients to whatever realization she had about the nature of reality, I don't think she attaches any feelings to that.and either,1. Rhucuphre never picked up the Curse because she was at Sefirot, and managed to invent a way to dodge it.2. Rhucuphre did pick up the Curse but mastered it and probably used its Meaning for her magic.
Is Spako actually a ghost or is she just a voice you hear?
>>96495910Pshht, Sonya doesn't even have a C letter, how do you expect her to shoot the antikrator from the astral plane?
>>96495911>And Zlata is a freak from the Daemonhunt who holds a unique post and who doesn't actually block bullets, the text says that proyectiles will warp around the userSo what? Zlata being a freak or not has nothing to do with her invalidation of the bulletproof gift. And her warping projectiles instead of blocking them head-on means that her magic is just that much more efficient and better than Bulletproof Skin, thereby only adding to the fact that magic is plainly better than 90% of Inborn Gifts. If Tankista didn't want people to laugh at him for using the words "low magic" he shouldn't have made magic that much better than anything in the setting.
>>96495918>Better?Sure, also pretty sure that anon was just pointing out that there exist vast gaps in power between the peaks of the setting and the average inhabitant of the world. That doesn't mean it's as bad as in xianxia. Armies obviously are relevant, but acting like a single shitter with a musket is a massive threat to the average Outsider, that didn't make a dogshit build, isn't right either.
>>96495914Eirina has no indication of being a hidden Dark Elf. By your interpretation, you couldn't actually pick both as companions at the same time since they are the same person and any sort of feeling Eirina shows would be faked which should be mentioned by the Outsider System. As it is right now they are different beings who might be related, anything more is just speculation.
>>96495951Best Ouk mentors are either Ielziaseh or Feodwra. The rest are a either waste of slots or just too dangerous and unpredictable to have such power like Rhucuphre.
>>96495951I have never seen anyone mention the pirate guy or the pirate woman before, other than to say the pirate woman has One's sword.
>>96495958>If Tankista didn't want people to laugh at him for using the words "low magic"Those words were never used.The statement was "I view the setting as low fantasy-ish" followed by an elaboration of what exactly was meant by that.And then you get posters who would blow themselves up if they tried to pronounce anything in God-script flanderise and run it into the ground.
>>96495970Once again >>96495788It's probably possible to do this without it being your death letter, especially for one of the greatest living magic users in the world.
>>96495958Magic can clearly do a lot. Individual mage can't do anything at once. To become like Zlata you need to somehow find/invent her method, then master it. It is a lot of time and investment preventing you from learning something else at the time.Assuming you've learnt several different methodologies like Zlata's, you need to make them work efficiently together without interference, where every mistake can blow you up.And once you've done that, you face a final boss - devaluation of meaning. Every single cool spell you do makes the next ones work worse. More awesome spell - faster meaninglessness.Inborn gifts and other resources are never irrelevant, because you can't replicate absolutely everything with magic in the strory's timeframe. It would be less efficient even if you have somehow managed it.
>>96495970Iotated Lesser Yus.
>>96495970Eternal Curse is just the eternal Agelessness of Elves warped by the nightmare. Aat wanted it to be warped by dreams, and speedrun By Design, but Xian ruined that plot. Nobody besides Rhucuphre can grok dreams enough to do her trick.
>>96495911Demonhunt trains all its members in defensive enchantment. See the Youth entry.The Master of Sigils is just exceptionally skilled with the common technique and, if experimental techniques exist, is responsible for learning and testing them. (According to the Demonhunt rank spreadsheet)
>>96495965Then we are in agreement. Sorry, I just start seeing red at the attempts to turn things into xianxia levelfaggotry. Sometimes it leads to false positives.
>>96495626>theta KatyaCannot be done.
>>96495995I feel sad that Anahita has been the least popular mother in both versions of OR. Sure, she's not the best mom and doesn't have that many gifts, but she's trying her best and I think that the sky pirate business is one people usually don't focus on. She's also one of the only parents with successful experience against the Ecumene.
>>96496001*everything at once
>>96495985>Afraid of the Rhucuouk lotteryNeither YMRD nor SRTR smiles on COWARDS
>>96495989Pirate guy has an aitship and is cheap, so he's good if you don't have any other mode of transportation.
>>96496025Her biggest problem is that she overlaps with tons of fathers for at least one of her gifts, and you're not compensated for overlapping.
>>96495989They're just hard to justify spending one of your super-limited companion slots on. Particularly when most people into the airship thing would rather be captains themselves than friends with the captain.
>>96496039Misalliance?
>>96496001>To become like Zlata you need to somehow find/invent her method, then master it. It is a lot of time and investment preventing you from learning something else at the time.Untimeskip>Assuming you've learnt several different methodologies like Zlata's, you need to make them work efficiently together without interference, where every mistake can blow you up.Nezvana+Untimeskip (again)>And once you've done that, you face a final boss - devaluation of meaning. Every single cool spell you do makes the next ones work worse. More awesome spell - faster meaninglessness.We have no clue how fast or potent Meaning Devaluation affect on spells, headcanoning about it us useless.>Inborn gifts and other resources are never irrelevant, because you can't replicate absolutely everything with magic in the strory's timeframe.You absolutely can. Tenyota+Untimeskip (once again)
>>96495989Like most one point companions, they are utility companions for those wanting sea and sky pirate stories since they come with a free ship. They are not the most popular because most think of the land locked threats, but I can think of several stories where they could be useful, like looking for mermaids and create an armada against the Ecumene.
You're all severely underestimating the power of technology in OR. And I don't mean shitty muskets, or even earth rifles. The genre of this setting has been Mecha for almost 1000 years in universe, and you are too blind to see it.My greater warmachina is going to have a rotary autocannon, a blue grease based railgun, phlogiston ballast tanks, omnidirectional thrusters, fairy-guided cluster munitions, a numerology based projectile shield, a flame thrower, spiked pleb stompers, and a giant enchanted/cursed Lesser Yus chainsword for close combat.
>>96496048Read it again, anon
>>96495912Gewgrim did not die in a fight. He could have 1v1 Nil, she backstabbed him. The power level of Outer Reincarnation is probably more Witcher, or wheel of time instead of other bullshit you are thinking of.
>>96496001Vtorusha created her Demonbane in 50-60 years from birth, while doing other stuff. A lot of other stuff.And even any normal Greater Warmachina is better than any single or x2 Gift aside from maybe things like Daemonhost, All-Glimpse and Ikona Ikons.
>>96496048>Using Misalliance on Martial Instinct, Noble Inclination and Caster IntuitonEvery build wants at least one of those, often all three.And on another note I've never liked Misalliance, it just turns parents even more into point bags in many people's eyes.
>>96496070You're not Vtorusha, bro. Give up
>>96496031If I was turn out like Charlotte did, [YMRD]'s apocalyptic trigger happiness is what's going to do it for me. Why did she target the chillest Elder God and leave the other two, arguably more morally bankrupt ones? If Charlie had killed her miseryporn-loving Patron she wouldn't have looked as much of a villain.
>>96495965Nope most outsiders who are not martials aka did not take bulletproof skin are in danger from a guy with a musket. The only thing stopping them is fate/death letter.
>>96496070How many missiles will it be able to fire at once?
>>96496058Exactly. Outsiders can compensate for it with points and fate, but Outsiders are rare. This is their special thing, this is why the CYOA player is relevantEven then, you spend points which could be invested elsewhere on overcoming these hurdles, which creates a space of meaningful choices. And after the character creation is ended, you are developing by the same rules as everyone else, just in an advantageous starting position of your choice.
>>9649609599% of gamblers quit right before ascending everyone to godhood by accident, anon
>>96496092Vtorusha was a fucking jobber. I’m built different.>>96496105Depends how many fairies you have on hand
>>96494875>Tankista treating 'Any' like it means 'All'Does that mean adoption Keter teaches you all languages? That's good value.
>>96496070>fairy-guided cluster munitions,Are you going to shove Pixies into bullets or what?
>>96496080I'm not against Misalliance if you want a parent combination but don't care about one of the inheritances. The problem is the point balance between parents. Ilfek is supposedly balanced because he's a dark elf and a parent who cannot take care of himself, meaning a poor childhood, but you can easily ignore that with adoption and just ignore that whole part of the character builder. And Maoisara gives so many expensive skills for a royal that it is ridiculous, why does she have two Overflowing Pupil if she's not even a fighter?
>>96496070Okay but I'm not a filthy Muddish, I can't use a mecha so that part of the setting is irrelevant to my build.
>>96496117Vtorusha never jobbed. She beat everyone she fought, that list just included herself.
>>96496078Who knows what you can do with All-Glimpse in 60 years? It is a long time, especially with all mental gifts and good mentors.There is a reason Charlotte is cautious of Outsiders.
>>96496118That's the Keter trick, anon.
>>96496126Why do you think people automatically get gifts that suit their personality?
>>96496130She was cast from the heavens by One's companions, she wasn't a true dragon herself so the argument against them didn't affect her.
>>96496118He said he'll probably nerf it if he ever updates this again, but yeah right now ketermom meta is real.Personally, I like it. Give her Greater Yus to help her out of depression and she's the best mom you could ask for
>>96496126>why does she have two Overflowing Pupil if she's not even a fighter?Just because you're gifted with the ability to become one of the greatest fighters of your time doesn't mean you have to become one. You can waste your potential if you wish; it's your right and privilege.
>>96495698>>96496005Huh, wait..>Agelessness is what happens when the Gods still wove threads of dream in life, creating the Elder Races. Everlasting differs in that they carve out an access point to wherever the dream came from, or that they by themselves create a dream.>Magecultists ascends and becomes True Dragons, Vtorusha ascends with the Old Throne. Their argument against each other and the Elder Gods wounds the world, damaging the previously whole story of Godscript and allowing the scattering of individual letters, creating the Majin. The Majin doesn't have their letter spells lose Meaning because they are a part of the natural world.>The reason why they're called True Dragons is that they managed to supercharge their innate Agelessness into a form of Everlasting, through the Solipsism argument. Just as the corpses of Outsiders with Everlasting lasts far more than they should, the True Dragons lasts far more than they should and has access to dreams. The nightmare is born. >The Outsider Aat decides to copy the True Dragon's trick but better this time, planning to spread a living inborn gift that effectively grants Elven-flavored Everlasting to everyone and counteract the nightmare. The Demon Lord Xian intervenes and forces him to make the Eternal Curse instead. This is the injustice.>The Eternal Curse is like that because similar to the dead True Dragons, it's pulling from the dreams and reinterpreting them into a nightmare. The mixing of the Eternal Curse and Solipsism slowly erodes the Underground, because it's concentrated anti-Meaning juice. This is the curse.Through only a few sentences, this level of reasoning is possible for Orkhalorkhan. What do you think everyone?
>>96496070True true, Warmechina from V1 was right about everything.https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/tyrannoshttps://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/to-coexist-is-to-surrenderhttps://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/cepheus-2https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/when-virtue-meets-steelhttps://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/the-wasteful-energy-of-words
>>96496144Because every other parent has gifts that make sense to their characters. Warriors have martial instinct, Ymreit mentions that she wasted her View of Fore in the past, the aristocrat merchant has all the mind gifts, etc.She's one of if not the only case where the gift doesn't make sense for the character. Grim Outlook does but the other should be something like Sight beyond Sight but not the ultimate battlefield control gift. It would be like Pu'un randomly giving Mitigating Grip X2.
>>96496175And such a waifuable build too..
>>96488576Who is the most ignored character? I nominate Panasagor, who has never been discussed, ever. He has been picked, but none of those builds have said anything about him. This is his first time in the spotlight. A dark spotlight, but a spotlight nonetheless.
>>96496184Literally who?
>>96496184Who the hell are you talking about?
>>96496128>a filthy MuddishExcuse you, I'm the Unbegotten One, The First After The Last, Demon Lord of the Eternal, and I will claim the Old Throne.
>>96496184My solobuild from V1 had him as a dad. He's fitting enough for a [JNPL] kid.
>>96496128You don’t have to be muddish, you just have to have a parent with warmachina mounting. You can be almost any main race and have it. One of the parents with warmachina mounting is a dark elf.And that’s assuming that you’re using the second jobber’s creations and not making your own
>>96496184He exists to be On'd so the Blues win the war.
I miss Sarmat... If only he were still with us...
>>96496161Okay, you might be actually onto something.
>>96496184Oh you're talking about the guy next to Stoyan
>>96496161I want to be this intelligent
>>96496184Almerich has direct ties to Keter and her party alongside two kings, but he's perhaps the most ignored parent.Iakowe is obviously talked about but no one picked him despite the incestuous Omega memes.
>>96496202>almost anyIt's just any. You can't be any possible half-breed combo, but you just pick your other parent to be the race you want.
>>96496178Those people seized their position in life because of their gifts. She's a royal by birth, she didn't have to seize her position. In fact, there was no impetus to force her to use her gifts at all, and she didn't. Gifts are genetic or completely random, they have nothing to do with your personality, people just tend to apply their talents. She didn't.
>>96496226Cant be Drakonid or Uruk or Aranea
>>96496229nvm the Drakonid I only thought about Pantorai. Why is he even a thing actually
>>96496161Thanks for being smart enough to give me hope that my dumb idea can work
>>96496229>can't be [a jobber] or [doesn't need it] or [a jobber]And?
>>96496229>DrakonidYes you can? There's like, two drakonid moms that can pair with either warmachina mounting dad, plus you can pair Taexx with the dark elf mom>AraneaAgain, just either of the dads with either any of the moms.>UrukDidn't think this counted as a main race, but yes
>>96496243So you can piss away 5 points to incest Paxxia
>>96496228You are missing the point, I'm not saying she couldn't have them and not use them, I'm saying she's the ONLY parent where having them adds nothing to her other than points value. Everyone else has gifts that would make sense for their roles but she alone doesn't and her description doesn't even imply she could be a great fighter. Again, if some other parents gave out random gifts that don't serve them, like Mada randomly getting Fighter's Eye, it would be one thing but as it is now she stands out over all other choices.
>>96496161If we follow this thread, Rhucuphre is actually right. The whole idea of total ascension relies on a might-as-well-be-infinite amount of time at hand with the Gods guaranteeing the system's stability.It worked fine for an unspecified amount of time, but after the War of Heaven and Earth (and shattering of the Godscript) the system is not stable. Gods can't maintain it or even return it to its rightful place, because they ARE the Godscript, a part of the problem. This is why rebellions against them get more and more successful, each damages the Godscript and diminishes them.Defeating 0^0 achieves nothing. Even YMRD rebooting the timeline does nothing, reality is fundamentally broken and can't achieve its goal. It needs to be plunged into dream and redone anew, only then it can be whole again.
The moment you say the word "jobber" your argument becomes meaningless to engage with, you devalued it. You jobbed.
>>96496243The training club Pantorai set up for his daughter was enough to turn her into one of the world's strongest despite her shit genes.
>>96496289If only there was a dream, and not a corrupted mass of nightmare waiting to crawl its way to the surface.
>>96495985>Not having Brastat, Syn Rarruta ascend while building a new generation of warmachina.>>96496070Based
>>96496299Might even be the actual strongest given she completely ggnore rapes anyone without any choice. There is no death letter for that!>>96496269I'm a complete brainlet thanks for even responding
>>96496293Yeah, and all Cretans are liars.
is there anywhere I can see the hidden text? has someone already collated them somewhere or is there a way to view them in the pdn files
>>96496304Yes, there must be some cleaning done beforehand. This is the entire idea behind my build though (Liadan), so sounds doable. In several Outsider cycles. Maybe.
>>96496312>Might even be the actual strongest given she completely ggnore rapes anyone without any choice. There is no death letter for that!Even if you manage to unite all of Doria under your rule by the time you're 12, it won't save you from Paxxia raping you.
>>96496122No, I’m going to shove them into rockets.Their small size makes them the perfect kamikaze pilots, and Diminishment means each fairy can pack an absurd amount of explosives into each rocket.Perpetuity means that they don’t even die (permanently) while doing this, and can simply be summoned back to base to rearm.
>>96496323Better start a whole religion based on it because the next outsiders wont get the memo otherwise. Will probably take exactly one "omg jsut like my chinese cartoons time to get harem" Outsider to course-correct in favor of the broken gods
>>96496332You can make Apantoxia Blazhko's companion and redirect that terrible fate. He even would be slightly older than you, when it happens.
>>96496312>she completely ggnore rapes anyone without any choiceShe just gets your cum somehow. If you're too powerful, it may be that she will suck cum off bedsheets in the hotel room you and your waifu Katya fucked last night.
>>96496332Maybe she is simply the most beautiful woman in the entire timeline ever and merely has to take off her coat to ensure fate.>>96496345Why does she want it so bad
>>96496289Who cares about old evil gods plan. We must lock them down and live our lives. They massacred multiple immortal races just so their cruel plan worked. We do not need them in our world.
>>96496349Eugenics, most mentors and parents have around 3-5 inborn gifts while Outsiders tend to be walking around with 8-14
>>96496289>Even YMRD rebooting the timeline does nothing, reality is fundamentally brokenNice fanfic
>>96496359Sasuga, Erginter's daughter
>>96496289>Ignore that the system was going smoothly and already produced a new Elder God, we must destroy reality out of spite for Vtorusha's dream and fuck up the world for everyoneRhucuphre fags are worse than Charlotte simps.
>>96496018This whole conversation made me realize that a Death Slot is a kind of "power level", or a measurement of a character's ability to take on the challenges that she's invariably fated to confront.>A: Deaths caused by biting more than you can chew, various violent fates for those who have lived by the sword and perishing by the sword. Negative net power.>B: Deaths that are a result of dodging most dangers in your life through either prudence or sheer skill, leaving you to die of the failure of your own body. Neutral net power.>C: Deaths, sometimes not even that, where you were able to plan around most threats to your existence. Positive net power.>Slot-neutral: Circumstances that are either self-caused, therefore always matching your power level, or so exotic and weird that they're equally likely to happen to anyone.>W: Omega. Fated to die by nothing less than the hand of a goddess.Capcha: 0KKYS
>>96496374>Capcha: 0KKYSBeauty. I take screenshots of good rolls and this would have gone to the collection.
>>96496373The system is going smoothly, and Rhucuphre is part of the plan. Trust the process
>>96496340Religion is a big and noticeable target, especially when working against someone controlling fate. Though a small, decentralised movement capable of concealing its goals while still maintaining continuity is better, than a lonely idealist in a cave. I wonder...*looks closely at Pandemonium*Hmm, looks like someone was way ahead of me.
>>96496321please respond
>>96496391Yes I jumped through Pandaemonium writing that response too but I don't see it working across multiple outsiders.
>>96496373[SRTR] was dumb enough to make the Outsider System and ruin everything in the process.
>>96496397Scroll down in the imagechest
>>96496374It less about power, more lifestyle and alignment with one of the godesses.A - SRTRB - JNPLC - YMRDW - YMRD is cheating really hard
>>96496388Unironically agreed. Rhucuphre is probably YMRD's main sock puppet for her ascend everyone at once plan.
>>96496202>you just have to have a parent with warmachina mountingYeah I don't.>Not making your ownDidn't get the dwarf who can do it.
>>96496374No, death slots are just a short hand of that character role>A: protagonist or otherwise main character>B: side or supporting character>C: mentor or guideOmega is simply an exception because she already has no death slot other than the one Charlie tries to give her and everyone who doesn't have one is either Empyrean, Undead or under very special circumstances that stop them from dying like Kilyn and Darina.
>>96496407Why does only YMRD have a special cheating slot?
>>96496321Tank's google drive is linked in the rentry. Text that isn't peeking out in the CYOA is either nonexistent or nonsense-babble, though. There are a few neat things that do peak out which are easier to read when you remove the big charlotte, boxes, though.
>>96496408>everyone gets dumped into a personalized hell dream like that one sleeping Daemonhunt girlI mean, it would work. By the timeline of the main world instantaneously even. I am not sure if I prefer soulrapehell over waiting really long though.
>>96496413[YMRD] stole Mithra's slot.
>>96496407>>96496413W slot is a collaborative effort between 0^0 and YMRD. Charlotte would've made it so you can only pick Khier if it were up to her.
>>96496413Mainly because she is the only one free enough to use it at the moment>>96496412Yes, and this roles is what aligns them with one of the goddesses. Some guy on reddit proposed this theory and tank confirmed it.
>>96496418I thought it was just because she tends to back her Outsiders more. Since it's implied she cheated to give Yphont more points, and she would've helped Savmak if he hadn't chosen Zemlya.
>>96496428She still wants to help Savmak, it's just taking longer than she'd prefer because she's a rules nerd who pushes the boundaries of what's allowed, not an actual cheater.
>>96496428That's a valid enough read. My morbing comes from Khier-Ot being a good descriptor of the present Mithra.
>>96496398Looks like the best bet is to do something like Mithra, when he connected to the Outsider system directly and added his opinion.Doubt it could be done any time soon though, especially without alerting whoever would be maintaining it at the moment. The best window to act is actually right at the time of the CYOA. While 0^0 is holding of the Elder Gods a lot of things can be done relatively unopposed.We just need a way to turn Ecumene's march of conquest into a stalemate to win more time.
>>96496416thanks that's what I meantso basically, behind these is just gibberish? I did notice that there wasn't any actual text in the xlsx files besides what peeks out, but if you remove the boxes it looks kind of connected, idk
>>96496428I wouldn't say that she specifically gave out more. They were the Outsiders literal patrons so it makes sense that they play favorites with them and want to get them out of bad situations they were stuck in.The only exceptions were Erginter who rejected her patron, Charlie who struck against [SRTR] even when she was probably pretty entertained with her adventure and Katya who picked Charlie and then went against her.Even Vtorusha seems to have kept [JNPL] favor even after the whole War of Heaven and Earth thing.
Can siblings have Misalliance?
>>96496457You make no choices for your siblings other than their age relative to yours and their death slot.
>>96496457What are you hoping to achieve there?
>>96496289Truth is the entire Godscript needs to be done away with.>b-but that will kill everyone in the world?Everyone in THAT fake narrative world, yes. The people of the true world (our world) will be fine.
>>96496413One is dead and the other is hiding in her shed.
>>96496445Unifying Doria and ushering in the Cold War is the most obvious one but also a major time waster if you don't calculate with a tide.If Mithra is still freewilled as in not corrupted by the broken godscript though, why isn't he doing it already? At any rate, achieving an ascent whether true or false while 0^0 is around is a tough order.
>>96496471"This world is fiction. We are the only things that are real within my sight. The rest are all disgusting lies. If this is so, then it doesn't matter what we do to others.No matter how depraved or horrible our actions could be, I consider it all to be meaningless. In light of that, it is my obligation to drag this world through the mud and ruin the tale, whatever it might be.There is only us, and even the narrative of fate is merely an illusion. It is up to me to prove to the storytellers that their works are worthless, to punish them for daring to make something like this.And so, I shall inflict as much dread and suffering as I possibly can. I know they cannot avert their eyes. I shall tear out the heart of what they consider to be their marvel, for what they depict is beautiful cannot possibly be anything but abominable."—11th Outsider
>>96496450Old version.
>>96496467You know the answer anon...
>>96496471Trve Jobber bro...
>>96496457Potentially but not genetically most likely since Tankista has said that Maladies are not inheritable.
>>96496477Didn't someone literally try that in-universe and it sucked?
>>96496488He wasn't built like us. It'll be different this time, trust
>>96496455>Erginter who rejected her patronJNPL got her in the end anyway, since she married the dragon shota and became a mom.
>>96496455They each seem to give you what they think you need.JNPL doesn't give a ton of free points but helps you live a charmed life with good friendships and guides you towards happy endings when the final letters trigger.SRTR gives you grand challenges with grand rewards at the end. She's happy to see you win, and she'll even help you along in her way, but you have to earn it, and earning it means suffering.YMRD wants you to read her stuff and bribes you with exploits that give far too many points so you will. She's also fond of rolling dice and used to bribe you with points if you were willing to indulge her.
>>96496476Cold War is a good option, though a temporary one. If Charlie's push stalls for too lonf SRTR and YMRD will stack the deck enough to win, they are not very concerned with anyone taking Patientia after all.Mithra could actually solve this situation easily, if he is indeed 'healthy'. The problem is we have no timeline on his return and it may be way too late. Researching a way to contact him might be promising.*pic related*Or maybe he or someone else of similar caliber is aware of the situation and drops some unsibtle hints. Even if I am reading into this too much, Caeda's gift sounds like the best starting point for that kind of project.
>>96496450
People are too prone to grabbing random headcanons and running with them.
>>96496538Hold on, let them cook.
>>96496407I'm skeptical that it's an exact match of someone's "patron" because you've got characters like Nezvana or Saevel who have B slots despite their violent lots in life.
>>96496480>>96496535ty, managed to do it
>>96496555Nezvana is A. Don't know hat is the deal with Saevel, maybe she has hidden depths?
>>96496562>Post scarcity society>Still force everyone into wage cuck slaveryThis is the future Charlie is fighting for
>>96496562>ecumene are wagiesImagine god personally forcing you to work 12 hour shifts at ecudonalds when magic existsI would kill myself
>>96496522Personally I would assume Mithra to have moved on to his own world, whether that's completely outside of this one or "one layer down" in the platonic sense.Caeda seems to be channeling dreams in a peculiar manner, I think the pushing back is meta humor because she is the reverse cyoa girl hinting at tankista's self-insert. Not following on this one.
>>96496538"When the letters are written, they exist by themselves as fact, regardless of whether they're read by anyone. But it is when they are read will they gain Meaning."
>>96496562Any theories on what Charlie's doing at the Midday Point?
>>96496600Sunstride
>>96496577Her description is mostly a reference, but it is still the best lead to offworld transportation we've got, except the Outsider system itself. It is hard to separate meta humour from actual setting information in her case though, I agree to drop it.I am slightly too sleepy to continue anyway, thanks for a fun brainstorming session.
>>96496600Every deity needs a vacation house.
>>96496611All you, I think there are definitely some deeper understandings to be had and confirmed when checked back to other parts of the setting yet and you are the closest to getting there.
>>96496611Goodnight, and sweetest dreams
>>96496600The Poles are where the world's radius is shortest, where the well of dreams that lies at the center of the world is accessible. Long ago, maybe, the world was tidally locked or approaching that, there was an everday and an evernight, but eternity only lies in dreams.
>>96496634The midnight and midday names are just poetry senpai.
>>96496658>the cyoa where words have meaning>"just" poetryBaka.>>96496634The muddish are the real american expy, pumping up greasy stuff that makes aerial vehicles fly from deep underground.
>limiting yourself to just one field of experimentation when trying to kill a godEven Keter knew better than to do that. Nightmare + True dragons + Undeath + Empyreans + Majin + Warmachina = ultimate god slayer
>>96488576Why did Yphont not take Icon of Icons? Is she stupid?
>>96496690Yes
>>96496690No Dark Elf or Drow parents with Icon of Icons in her day, didn't have the AP to spend on it after buying everything else she wanted.
>>96496634The world is earth sized and the days are earth length, so unless YMRD was really bored that wont be a meaningful difference
>>96496690It would ruin the purity of her friendships if she was incentived to quantify them.
>>96496690Why didn't you take Eternal Slaying to hardcounter Empyreans?
>>96496715Musical Note of Death sounds cool too.
Will Outer Reincarnation posting stop before September ends?
>>96496705I get the feeling that even [SRTR] was tired of her friendship speeches after a while and subtly nudged Erginter her way.
are ymrd and jnpl short for anything? I look at srtr and immediately think it is for surtur
>>96496735JeaN-PauL charles aYMaRD SaRTRe
>>96496735
>>96496731Yes, but I wont wake you up when it does.
>>96496735JohN-PauL aYMaRD [Charles = 0^0] SaRTRe
>>96496731doubtful, they know its over, but they're desperately posting at increasingly low quality in order to "keep the multiplayer going".its obvious at this point were not going to end without another massive drama event like last time.
>>96496742I option 4 OR
what do you think luminescence of man does
>>96496761your dick glows in the dark
>>96496728I bet True Stance is the real catch. The lamer the name = the more op the gift.
>>96496761It's like Icon of Icons, but instead of the boost it makes you glow.
>>96496754What happened last time?
>>96496761Stat uncapper
>>96496770>Panarmament>Entrenchment>Inner VisionYou have a point.
>>96496690She rolled her entire build.
>>96496774He will write you a fanfiction now, good job
>>96496562>The people here do wage cuck slavery just to surviveAs opposed to the people of other continents who labor in the fields just to survive? How's the food or disease situation looking around the world anyways? IIRC Charlie introduced crop rotation and germ theory? Did that help at all or what
>>96496774Multiplayer split.
>>96496785>IIRC Charlie introduced crop rotation and germ theory? Did that help at all or whatIt definitely helped the Morlocks.
>>96496785If her planes are any indication it probably shortened the lifespan by making people drink bleach to combat insidious walrus.
>>96496780>she is a RYOA fagShe is stupid indeed.
Notice how Charlie only implemented the most basic isekai tropes of crop rotation and germ theory and in 200 years hasn’t managed to go beyond that.Meanwhile Vtorusha was exploring the moon in a fraction of that timePathetic
>>96496754it's just fun man no need to get yourself in a twist. More characters, encounters, and gifts opens the door to so many combinations that its fun still trying to make something of it even weeks after its been dropped. It won't last forever so personally I'll enjoy it while it lasts, same way I do with any other CYOA that has my interest.
>>96496799Life is all about risks anon
>>96496793Don't lie about that, the split came around a month after OR discussion had fizzled out. The real problem was that then everyone else tried to start multiplayer cyoas across the thread.It's only been two weeks and the other day when people had the chance to not to talk about it, the thread devolved into pedo baiting shitposting. As expected of the people who think a cyoa can overstay it's welcome.
>the 11th has god hand x3Wtf bros, how do we even win??? He killed Charlie in only 40 years, and all his other gifts are useless things like thoroughbreeding. This must be a cheat skill given by the system as compensation. None of the other outsiders even have it.
>>96496802Because Charlie was just some random reddit woman while Vtorusha was an actual engineer
>>96496817And they were so bad. Fucking Fairy Tail and One Piece back to back
>>96496821There is no way to win. It's just a rigged bullshit game.
>>96496802I suspect all the Earth nostalgia and shitty physics are just pretenses. She's doing all that to distract from the fact that she's researching the pillars and JNPL's corpse for her False Ascent v2.
>>96496821With a name like God Hand you know it's broken. The 11th got everything handed to him on easy mode.
>>96496817>As expected of the people who think a cyoa can overstay it's welcomeI can only read about how overpowered charlie is so many times. You can only talk about how the outer tide needs to team up so many times. The discussion is great when it isn't the same shit being said over and over again.
>>96496821Just take soul revolving.
>>96496847I thought you were falseflagging but this is actually so off the mark you might be retarded enough to be serious. Shame.
>>96496829>reddit womanNah, she's one of us. There is that one particular shitposter who was the clear inspiration.
>>96496821Just look at his build>Icon of IconsA charisma bonus, can be ignored>Occulous of human goodnessAnother cha bonus>Look of chaosIntimidation bonus>Ethereal beautyCha AgainThis guy was basically a massive whore carried by godhand, once you figure that one out he will be helpless
>>96496851>Jobber RevolvingJust say you're trolling>>96496821No way it's better than Undivine Vacuity, it's probably the best gift in the cyoa.
Do the regular people in the Exarchate know that Savmak was murdered by his own people?
>>96496860>Nah, she's one of us. There is that one particular shitposter who was the clear inspiration.That shitposter has/had a reddit account though.
>>96496871I don't care, Blazkho as a mentor + Paxxia as mother is op so I insta win
>>96496879If you were one of the traitors, would you let that information spread? Especially in the Exarchate?
>>96496860physicsfag didnt exist in 2022
[JNPL] = [Live/Belly]-[Unclear, guessing "Nash" which means Our/Could be "Izhe" which means Which]-[Calm/Peace]-[People-Folk-Nation-Humanity] = "Live our peace, humanity"[SRTR] = [Word/Meaning]-[Say/Speech/Language]-[Solid/Certain]-[Say/Speech/Language] = idk, create stories?[YMRD] = [And]-[Think]-[Say/Speech/Language]-[Good/Worth] = "Think and say good things"[Charlie] = [Sole/United/He/That One]^[Sole/United/He/That One] = "Stop trying to psychoanalyze me."
>>96496887This is false I was already pretending to fall for the bait to annoy the more serious Anons back then
>>96496821Autoantecedence God Hand x3: One time use ability to temporarily become an Elder God for one Planck time.
>>96496860Who?
use dream + time magic to create a hyperbolic time chambercreate several majin templates using daemonhostspawn them in the dream chamber and make them repeatedly fight almost to the death, allowing you to rapidly refine your templates???profit
>>96495510>no Upunth>no Ieaziahseh
You know everyone is ingoing a powerful mentor Strokad. Oaths to make you tougher. What oaths would you guys take?
>>96496886He was succeeded by a bastard son with the All-Glimpse, and he needed the All-Glimpse to succeed in the succession crisis. That suggests he was not in on the betrayal, which suggests that the conspirators were ultimately caught.
>>96496910I promise to shitpost every day.
>>96488576If you're an option of the 12th and you still have your death letter, will they be unable assign you another one?
>>96496910"I will defend the Empire of Light and Dark against all enemies, foreign and domestic"
>>96496910I promise to aura farm
>>96496910An oath is as strong as the meaning you give it, not the difficulty added to you life from itI swear not to speak my own name for the next 100 years, an act that is meaningful for me, and requires a significant alteration to my behavior, but does not actually hurt my chance of winning
>>96496925Seems like the Outsider arrival is the great deathletter reset. See Keter for the most straightforward example
>>96496910"I swear to meet the megabitch god who wants to kill me."
>>96496910>powerful mentor>teaches 1 spell>1 spell he doesn't understandEw. At least Reks is self aware.
>>96496946Keter fulfilled her Buki and had an empty death slot before we arrived
>>96496936That's not what the description says. If you limit yourself the power has to go somewhere.>>96496926Based soldier annon.
>>96496946Nah, she met 0^0 and escaped. Aat carried his Aat through several cycles.
>>96496910"I swear to always eat my greens""I swear to drink water EVERY day""I swear not to die until I meet my doom"
>>96496925That's probably why Zenia has no slot to fill, anon
>>96496953It never says need to limit myself in combat, and that is the understanding of the dwarf
>>96496910problem solved in one punch, or your money back
>>96496951Dude it sounds like JJK binding vows or nen vows. You could get 100 times stronger by making a vow in the middle of the buki fight to neve use magic again after the fight it's narratively awesome.
>>96496910Limited words, odd letters.
>>96496910Go full chunni robin hood.>Always scream the name of my attacks before executing them.>Strike weird signature pose after every victory.>Never refuse a 1v1.>Never turn back on anyone in genuine need.>Donate 50% of all my earnings to the poor.
>>96496974I’ve always loved that sort of “borrowing power from the future, but at a cost” type powerups. They’re very narratively satisfying
>>96496967The dwarf limited himself to also not kneel. So it does not have to be a combat limitation. You could say "I will not tell a lie."
>>96496910>God, Buddha, and Lord Od Lagna. I swear that I will never invite anyone into my home for the rest of my life.
>>96496975I will literally refuse to cooperate with you. Not because of the laconic tone but because I would always be counting your letters. Horrible.
How powerful would you be if you swore never to speak another word
>>96497019Negative power level because you need to speak godscript to cast
>>96497021why cant you use a TTS machine to cast
>>96497021Enochian brand if you're a loser, out-skill the silence if you're real
>>96497021>The Enochian Brand in question
>>96497012I would embrace a quiet lifestyle.
>>96496600It's her crying spot where her tears of grief frustration and regret become one with the snow. It's probably only really important to her.
>>96496890How do the Elder Gods feel knowing they're just references to Sartre? What if they're massive earthaboos
>>96497021You aren’t just giving it away. It’s a trade, for power. In a world that runs on words and meaning, the ability to speak ought to be worth quite a bit, no?
>>96496951Well i don't need to understand a stick to beat you to a pulp with it
Are “adamantlock muskets” significantly different from real world muskets?
>>96496890Yee before the letters breaks established rules (see Mitrofan), so it shouldn't be a simple "and" here. Iotated letters put a Yee in front of them, so it likely works more like the iotated letters -- you combine and superimpose the meaning of Myslete with R'sty,Combining the concept of a free thought unbound by dogma or even coherence with something you say out loud, and considering YMRD's character, I think the meaning of [YMR] is "guess". This would lead to YMRD's name translating to "good guess", or maybe "lucky guess".Which is perfect for her. The nerd.
Are hand powers like Deathless grasp always on like a Midas Touch or does it take willful activation?
>>96496951It's not just a single spell, anon. It's the fundamental principles of Eldar law-magic, just directed towards the self instead of a nation.
>>96497082Maybe they use a different mechanism to ignite the gunpowder. Matchlocks use a match, wheellocks use a wheel, and flintlocks use flint. So maybe adamantlocks use adamant. That’s pure speculation though.
How many years since muskets were introduced and they still haven't improved on them? Wtf is this technological stagnancy bullshit. Elder Shitter interference?
>>96497272How long do you think muskets lasted in real life history, smartass?
>>96497301We didn't have magic and mechs and literal otherworldly demigods cropping up in real life. They do. This lack of innovation is inexcusable.
>not doing maximum upliftingunless you are planning to ascend in one life, you WILL be born as an illiterate peasant at some point
>>96497314They don't have mech factories dummy. It's lostech.
>>96497041I counted every last one of them, good job. Just don't expect me to ever listen to the actual words
>>96497314>the setting progressed from bronze age to all of this in record time and STILL anon finds reasons to complain about technological stagnation
>>96497332The setting went from bronze age to mechs landing on the moon in less than 50 yearsThen in the next 850 years, none of these jobbers could figure out how to even repair lostech. Even taking into account that the outsiders MAY have had incentive to keep tech/knowledge to themselves (not all of them would do this), the natives should have at least figured out how to maintain their shit. The M*ddish are only in such a pitiful state because they have no idea how to repair their mechs, let alone make anything close to them.
>>96497349Why didn't Vtorusha pass down her knowledge? Is she stupid?
>>96497361>logic errored herself into eternal gigahell nightmare x100000Yes
>>96497041I too counted each and every one. Why would you adopt a quiet lifestyle while Charlotte threatens you? It's quite dangerous, leaving a psycho megabitch alive.
>>96497349>jobber spellMeaning devaluation.You are exhausted. Go take a rest instead of sullying the CYOA.
>>96497368> each> 4 lettersDamnation, I did not see the error.
>>96497361>vtorusha took wisdomI told you fuckers that wisdom was wasted points.
>>96496810>gamble on the RYOA option>loseI would crash the fuck outI would make Charlie look downright reasonable
>>96497349Actually they do know how to repair and maintain it. It's just if it's destroyed then it can be had or impossible to make. The Muddish mechs ae rarely used because they are too rare and powerful.
Gunfags will NEVER be satisfied unless the only weapon in the setting is their gunfu of choice. Never give into gunfags, not even once.
>>96497460glock 19 with stendo and switch, my beloved...
>>96497367>>96497387She didn't have Wisdom while making her build...
>>96497349Vtorusha's army/empire of all humanity ate shit and got wiped out, reducing most humans back to tribes enslaved to other races save a few. The ability to make that tech, the technology, was lost. None of the Outsiders afterwards reintroduced guns, until Charlotte taught her boyfriend, Avgustus, how to make gunpowder. This resulted in the nations they founded, the Empire of Light and Dark and the Ecumene, adopting simple muskets, which adamantlocks being the most recent. All the other nations proceeded to copy their tech. Everyone else with guns who isn't toting around some holy Outsider relic got their technology from Charlotte, not Vtorusha.
do you fags not know how to create new threads?>>96497495>>96497495>>96497495
>>96497361Since all the greater Warmachina are tied to her blood, I can assume that most of her creations were made thanks to her gifts and mentor. Hard to replicate.
>>96492981Sad there doesn't seem to be an Exemplar equivalent to the Craftsmen or Artisan. There's also no upgrades to the Miner that I can find.
