The score track is round the outside, round the outside, round the outside.Previous: >>96505010Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/h8Tz2ze8Survey results: https://pastebin.com/YJPZ44rqThis general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Fillers, Party, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the game that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.TQs:- Best game of 2025?- Are you a convention goer? If so what is your favorite con or con setting?- How do you choose your starting player board in an asymmetric game? Random, backwards draft, deal 2 pick 1, open draft, etc?
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>>96522098Any theme, pretty much. Historical stuff is fine (Twilight/Imperial), but so is fantasy (WotR). It's just that the war on terror is kind of a lame theme IMO. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong on that.>>96522125Could you shill me on it a little bit more? How does it play, why is it better than TS?
Modern Art is not a good auction game, prove me wrong.
>>96522542Here's your pity (((you)))
>>96522428tq1.Innovation Ultimate2.Not really, but I go to Origins because I live around the corner from it3. just pick one
>>96522428I just go to gencon to feel thin, even though I'm technically obese
>>96522394Doubt it. The way splotter games work, they do a big print run and never again. What we're seeing now are all the businesses who speculated on HC and bought many, many copies are now having to offload at a discount because the uncertain business environment is preventing them from holding this bag So, if you want HC, buy now before it starts showing up on ebay for $200+
>>96522675>The way splotter games work, they do a big print run and never again>FCM is on its 12th printrun in 10 yearsWhat did he mean by this
>>96522690Before fcm, how many of their games had multiple print runs? Feels like fcm put them on the map and led to other games getting additional print runs they otherwise wouldn't have had
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNEj6NFAX80what the fuck is wrong with ashton, I've never seen so bad taste in my life
>>96522566I really dug the Unseen expansion in Innovation Ultimate but man it cranks up the game length.
>>96522542yes, it's actually a good hand management game with an auction slapped onto it last minute
>>96522727Call me selective but their bigger titles:>Indonesia3 print runs>TGZ3 print runs>R&B5 print runs>Bus3 print runsYou aren't wrong that a part of these were post fcm but it still doesn't make "they do a big print run and never again" true. Not really a huge issue or anything, just saying. Doesn't make splotter any less talmudic
Not a trainbro but just a reminder to at least that one anon who tried to get it; Railways of the lost atlas has a new crowdfunding campaign running until the 30th
>>96522812What train game is this most likely? Age of steam? 18xx?I think I'm becoming a trainy
>>96522932I'm not autistic enough to answer this with confidence but I've heard a lot about it. It's a nonhistorical 18xx that allegedly is both beginner friendly yet has most of what makes 18xx games and also a reasonable (~4h) playtime. Plus vastly varying setup, so there's no standard opening moves etcI think I'll risk it, then leave it unplayed on the shelf for 8 years
>>96522541>AncientJudean Hammer, card driven. Conflict no one knows about. Storm over Jerusalem, has cards but they don't drive it. There's other games in the Storm Over series if you don't want ancient history>Levy & Campaign series. Nevsky, Almoravid, Inferno, etc.These games are weird. They do not play like a typical war game. Look up reviews, it's hard to explain. Major pro: they cover weird conflicts that no other game does>Cold War'85 Afghanistan. Card driven skirmish game Saigon 75 is a cube game, set after the Americans have bailed. >????Meltwater. Cold War goes hot and the last survivors fight over Antarctica. Unlike other wargames, the map is actively getting smaller as radiation encroaches. 2040 American Insurrection is....interesting. Part of the game is on the map, part of the game is on the internet (not literally. No digital component to this game)I've skipped Napoleonics, ACW, and WW2 because I'm sure you can find a list of those if you look around
Oath expansion is sounding pretty hot
>>96522932it's closer to 18XX with the way companies and route-building is handled, but has a few convenience features, such as (optional) variable map built by players at the start each game, share prices being simplified, each company has it's own unique ability, and you can mix and match those abilities after a merger. the expansion that's getting the kickstarter right now adds a few optional modules and extra companies to the mix, pretty solid for the price but not really a must-have. Thankfully they offer a "base game only" pledge level if you wanna spend less.
>>96523057>Wehrleshitter >wants to fuck an expansionPar for the course, I guess
>>96523057>Oath is getting a big storage box before RootWhat thefuck is this shit?
>>96522985BasedI plan on doing the same
I'm stocking up on some games and a couple kickstarters nowI'm making a commitment for 2026, $0 spent on boardgames
>>96523387>I'm making a commitment for 2026, $0 spent on boardgameshahah sure thing buddy
>>96523057Where can I check it out? I want to see how the game plays now.
>>96523369It'll fit nicely next to Here I Stand on my shelf of oh god what was I thinking I barely have time to eat dinnerJoking aside, I think I could get in a game of Lost atlas within a year. HIS, however, will stay where it is. I still lack 3 of the necessary 6 autismos, but I'll get there when my children are grown up and I can bargain them into it
>>96523476>test kit:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352571392not sure how current>Shorter, Return to Oath Ruleshttps://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yv3xzmnbnc4k9ijbcfuy9/Returning-to-Oath-Rulebook-KS.pdf?rlkey=5hvvcgkbs5i2aiyc35dvor7es&dl=0>Full Rulebook Reworkhttps://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/poxhgwljmg84maztzwb7f/Combined-Oath-Rulebook-KS.pdf?rlkey=ubfkd50e71kihv821wc964uny&dl=0
>>96523448I'm seriousI'll make an exception for things like buying card sleeves or 3d printer filament if they're needed, but no spending on games themselves
Any tips for selling boardgames locally? I'd rather not deal with bullshit on ebay. Games I"m trying to get rid of are Scythe Legendary box, Arkham Horror card game, and Blood rage with some kickstarter stuff.
>>96523516Thank you!
>>96523566Do you have a local slop meet?
>>96523546Welcome to pnp gaming brother
>>96523566I do all my selling and most of my buying at the virtual flea market on local conventions.My tip would be price things to sell quickly. No one wants to pay 10% off retail for your used copy of Scythe. Unless it's out of print and highly sought after you need to make it worth people's time.
>>96523509>>96523369You should be able to get a game of Railways in anytime you want to. I've played pretty close to 30 times since it came out with train gamers and midweight euro gamers. Never been a problem getting it to the table.It's a very operational game so euro players like it - you win by building and running good networks and blocking the shit out of others. The stock stuff is straight forward, trashing isn't really a thing like other 18xx games. The modular maps make the game really fun and make floating matter. I played the expansion on TTS and it's not game breaking but adds some stuff to make the maps a little more interesting. It does away with all the nonsense stuff that other 18xx games suffer from and has side benefit of being shunned by traditional 18xx'ers so you don't have to socialize with them and can have fun instead of watching autists count and recount tracks for 10 bucks.
>>96523516>>96523057>>96523476I liked Oath a lot and thought it needed a bit of clean up to make the gameplay more interesting, I thought a new expansion could add some things but I didn't think it'd introduce ground up reworks of the ENTIRE gameI went from kind of being interested to EXTREMELY interested. I didn't read the whole book yet however.
>Players now always have access to basic negotiations: As a minor action, they may give each other favor and relics with players whose pawns are at their site. The exchanges do not have to be equal, but both sides must give their consentyou've all been asking for it
My insurance agent didn't believe my board game collection needed to be insured for 15k, so I'm having her over this weekend to show her the size of my collection, and how well protected it is (wooden inserts, card sleeves, walnut and hard maple dice towers, etc). Wish me luck, bros. Maybe we'll even get in a game.
>>96523960Interesting, keep us posted
>>96523960is she hot?
>>96523960>Oh my anon you actually own the WotR collectors edition>And is that the Glory to Rome black box?>Thee hee I'm feeling kinda dizzy anon, do you have a bed I could lie down in? of course all horniness immediately leaves her body as she notices all the sleeves
>>96523960Is she married?
>>96524046Kinda>>96524075Divorced, has a picture of two kids in her office
>>96523960>so I'm having her over this weekend to show her the size of my collectionThat's too implausible even for a porn plot
>>96524073>"I mean, there are some times when you can't help it">As she listens intently, anon know's he's got her now>"And you throw out all the sleeves and inserts and really, you know, play the game as it was meant to be, as it was produced">Their eyes meet>"Damned be the consequences">After a very long moment, she finally leans in and-Well, anon? What does she say?
>>96524171have you tried root?
>>96522812Is that the only way to get it?
>>96523873>It does away with all the nonsense stuff that other 18xx games suffer from and has side benefit of being shunned by traditional 18xx'ers so you don't have to socialize with them and can have fun instead of watching autists count and recount tracks for 10 bucks.The expansion? What exactly does it change?
>>96524171>Do you have anything we can learn just by reading the rulebook?
>>96524171>18XXX?
>>96524260It adds some new tiles that you can slip in when you build your map. They do some fun stuff - the Void one let's you spit your train out to another part of the map that you might be blocked from, stuff like that. There are event cards that cause changes to the map each turn. Just more variety really.The expansion doesn't fix the 18xx issues, RoLA does. Getting rid of stupid stuff like floating a company and having to wait to run, effectively dropping your stock price for no reason during the first OR, train export (I honestly don't know why every game doesn't do this), non-scripted starting moves based on minor, etc.
https://shreyank.github.io/hc-data/2025-top-50/hc-2025.htmlTop game you disagree with.
>>96524273What game are they playing
>>96524344nice IP grabber
>>96524343How long does a 4p game usually play? 4h? Does the expansion change that?
>>96523613Yeah it looks like there are some in the area. Great idea.>>96523771I was planning on pricing things favorably. I got the games cheap anyway.
>>96524361Depends - there are 3 modes: short, long, bank variant. Short game is 4 turns and long game is 6 turns and takes about 45m-1hr per player unless someone goes bankrupt. Bank variant removes the turn limit and sets a bank break condition like in traditional 18xx games. I think it's $8000 so it's not too much longer than a 4 turn game.
Is Hansa Teutonica a good game for a newbie?
>>96524553yes, it teaches you to not be afraid to get mean with your friends, because not blocking routes is just bad business.
>majority of my bg related podcasts have recent episodes about tricktaking games>neat maybe that'll sway my probably putdated opinion on the subgenre>....>Holy shit this is unfathomably boringApparently I really dislike tricktaking games. I'm pretty sure I could listen to 1h of people discussing the minutae in worker placement between agricola and caverna or the optimal shape and number of tiles in a tilelayong game...but man do I zone out after 10 min of tricktaking talk. It's wild
>>96524697Trick taking games are pretty boring, especially this new wave of co-op no talking games.
>>96524697i like skull king but that's more of a card game than a board game
>>96522690These print runs aren't large. They're like a dark mirror of GMT without the catering to demand with a p500 or high quality components.>>96522812Ausanon complainer here: Thanks, anon. >>96524874The no talking as a mechanic games are all dogshit, though they do showcase how debilitating being either a giga autist or normie is to reading your friends and family. Everything in moderation including autism.>>96524553Favourite gateway game to the point of pretending it has a strong theme.>attn: GIPF connoisseurs>rank 'em
>$36 for a deck of Mushroom Sort cards>TTS scans are shit qualityGuess I'll just remake them myself...
is Citadels bad, or is it just old?
>>96524989Just hand over the measly 36 dollars. As we know from anon himself, everyone in the us could easily get 100k in their twenties with a bit of work
>>96525069The best way to get 100k is to not do stupid shit like spending $40 on playing cards!
>>96525088Apologies, it was ofc about a +100k/year salary
>>96522812>reminder to at least that one anon who tried to get itI don't know if that was me but I was among the first ones to mention the gameYes I was aware of it but thanks for the heads upI have never backed a kickstarter or gamefound or whatever before and I'm not sure if I want to start... even if it's for RotLA... which I want really badlyI'm also not entirely sure about the expansion, which, yes, adds nice alternate modes, new companies and stuff, but the main thing is Landmarks which still seems too goofy and unfitting for the game, it'd probably be the only thing I wouldn't use from the game (i've checked out all Landmarks from TTS, they're just wacky memes that feel off and completely tacked-on, IMO). On the other hand if I'm to fork over $$$ for the ks, getting the expa along with it isn't much of an added cost.Plus the delivery is estimated to be in August 2026>>96522932it's a 18xx-like, doesn't share many similarities with age of steam>>96524217it might go in retail since one of the pledges is a retail pledge.. but i doubt it somehowI've seen it on second hand markets a couple times but they all demand a steep price everytime
>>96522812>Huh seems interesting lets check it out>neat there's a johngetsgames rules and play of it>Wait that's no- oh noWhat the fuck happened to him. Or is this just him larping as the stereotypical train gamer
>>96523937Honestly this new Oath expansion has me fucking hyped, I'm very excited to see if it fixes the game
>>96524989cute
>>96524989I mean, it's just a normal poker deck right? Wouldn't you just want to buy the physical if you want the art?
are there any decent 18xx games on pc with ai? Only one I know is 18Korea on steamDon't care if it's shitty java swing ui
>>96525728The cards have suited backs.
>>96525772Ah that's unfortunate. But I'm glad more people are using colored backs, always felt weird thinking it was an underutilized mechanic
>>96525728I could, like, get 4 different color decks and use those, but yes the art is an appeal. In JP it'd be like fifteen bucks which I wouldn't even flinch at for an indie pub.
>BGG says a game has 5 weight>play it, it's a 3Do people just rate games heavier when they're too dumb to grasp the gameplay? Do I have to subtract at least 1 point from the listed weight now?
>>96526008what game?
>>96526025Campaign for North Africa
>>96526008
>>96526057We intentionally made that game needlessly heavy, as a joke.
>>96526089What do you get when you combine Wehrle and Knizia?My ass! Nyahahahahahahaha
>>96526073lol
favorite small box card game?
>>96526372Race for the Galaxy
Best games out right now? Don't fuck me around, bgg
>>96526619Depends on what you like
>>96526372Came here to ask this. From my searches, I found that these fit the bill, but I want MOAR:Ortus RegniNawalliGreenlandNeanderthalPax TranshumanityScoutStartupsLovecraft letter for kino fillerInnovation (I have ultimate but 4th ed base game is very small box)LOOKING FOR MORE PLEASE FEED
>>96526619What the other anon said, borbgaems vary wildly in playstyle and what sort of mindset you have to apply to the game
>>96523516That rulebook is a million times better, the stock rulebook is so fucking bad.
>>96526632>Pax Transhumanityi want this so bad. so hard to find.
Pax games by their ranking on the gulag:9. Pax Viking Junior8. Pax Illuminaten7. Pax Hispanica6. Pax Emancipation 5. Pax Viking 4. Pax Transhumanity3. Pax Porfiriana 2. Pax Renaissance*1. Pax Pamir**2EDo you agree? Is Pamir the best?
>>96526701My dad is a eklund hoarder, we basically have every important sierra madre and ION games game. You can try asking for places to get PT on the ION Games official discord.I played it a few times. The game is pretty interesting and unique, also has lots of replayability. What's really astounding is the amount of game they managed to cram into a pocket sized box. It's worth having just for the incredible game to footprint ratio.
>>96526721Only played ren, transhumanity, viking and hispanica. I'd put hispanica right next to or even a little bit better than ren. Pax viking is the best entry level pax game since it's not very eklund-y.
>>96526730>What's really astounding is the amount of game they managed to cram into a pocket sized boxYes, it's insane. Pretty heavy and complex game in such a small box. I've never seen anything like it.
>>96526737>hispanicaYou like hispanica? I remember anons here being pretty negative on it. Why do you like it?
>>96526632Which ones do you already have?
>>96526780It's a great story teller, generative of very fun, memorable moments. It's extremely thematic (one of my favourite themes too), and it's just generally fun to roleplay as someone making a name for themselves in the pirate era. It's basically sid meier's pirates!Mechanic wise, I like the deep asymmetry, the various viable playstyles, the way haven cards work with interdiction and burried treasure mechanics, and especially how everything you do affects the philosophy board, causing potential personal run-ins with other players, duelling etc. The promos/expansions also add tons of replayability (if it wasn't already very replayable), new scenarios and new ways to play basically. IMO if you have more than two braincells and like pax games in general and pirate games in particular, this is probably the best pirate game at the moment. I'd rate it a 8 ish only because it is indeed a little dense rules-wise and hard to teach.
>>96526787Everything except Ortus Regni and Nawalli.
>>96526852Best player count for Hispanica?
>>96526888I only played 3p unfortunately, I couldn't tell you how it scales with higher or lower player counts, so my above review (>>96526852) is I guess for 3p games.
Blood Rage or Inis, bgg brethren?
>>96526632>Pax TranshumanityGive me the QRD. Why do you like it so much?
>>96526940As I've said, the biggest strong point it has is that I can have a full, dense, boardgame in my backpocket. I haven't played it in a while, but I remember that the way the economy works coupled with the viability mechanic creates interesting decisions for you to make. Another nice thing is that, in classic pax game fashion, there is almost no hidden information, and when there is, it's the same hidden information for every player. It's remarkable that being as small as it is, it manages to kinda stand its own ground against huge games like dune imperium. However, if you're travelling and only have tiny space for boardgames, but you're also autistic, I don't think there's any other game I'd take.
I found Gosu and Gosu Kamakor together for 30 bucks. Good deal?
what does Cole Wehrle think of Railways of the Lost Atlas
>>96527022decent deal ya.>>96526701Never realised when I jumped on it at anons suggestion in 2020 that I'd be getting a delightful game punching above its weight that would quickly disappear.>>96526632You somehow dont have pixel tactics or Mottanai on that list?For shame!
>>96527149I PnP'd glory to rome black box fan mini edition and stuffed it in a dixit expansion box I had lying around. I forgot to add GtR to that list as I think it's better than mottainai.
>>96527161>gtr black box fan mini editioninterestingdo you still have the pdfs or can tell me where to find em?
>>96526372Pax Porfiriana or Transhumanity
>>96526900How long does it usually take?I was really interested in the Bios Origins game but when I found out it goes around 4h I knew it wouldn't get the playtime...
>>96527265Sure, here you go.https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2926256/glory-to-rome-the-micro-editionI spent the entire day printing, glueing, cutting everything with a guillotine and then sleeving, but it was extremely worth it. I've now played almost 20 games across different groups and it's always been a hit. I should pnp it again after I streamline and improve my card printing process, as cutting by hand at a guillotine still yields imperfect results as you can see in pic related
>>96527340What do you mean imperfect, looks fine
>>96527336That's another thing, it can get a little chronophagous, but if your group is well disciplined, invested in the game, and you have someone quickly doing the Goods Year (where stuff appears on the map etc), I think a game can realistically end in 2h, maybe a bit more. You are going to have to soldier through the dense rulebook the first time around though, and that will take a while, and it's not really a breeze to teach either. So definitely not a "short" game, but it can be decent if your group is based. Mine isn't, but they did enjoy the game and we had the entire day to spare.
>>96527353The cards don't all have the exact same height and width, and the sleeves are too long. I have been putting off trimming the sleeves for ages but I can't be arsed to.
>>96527340I've been guillotining cards for years. Stick a phone light under the paper at the cutting line and never miss.I use a procxy generator tool I found on itch that automatically puts a mm line of padding between cards so it's easier to cut them if they look similar edge to edge.
>>96526701Easy to pnp though
>>96527421Good advice, but I intend to upgrade my workflow to this: https://alan-cha.github.io/silhouette-card-maker/
speaking of the gulag
>>96527640How does he know which ones are men and which ones are women???
>>96525743Does it have to be AI or bots? Just play on 18xx.games instead.
>>96526721Porfiriana at 1, Pamir at 3, Pax Illuminaten (its not really a Pax game) at 4.
18XX games are bogged down by operating phases. Lets be honest people like these games for the stock round manipulation and then operating phases begin and its just fiddly, mathy, largely solved monotony that pads the playtime into 4+ hours. Operating should be streamlined into something like Russian Railroads or Bus.
The time is the biggest flaw of 18xx games. When the shortest games are 3-4h at best you are limited to a niche crowd. That might not be bad.Pax Illuminaten is one where it looks interesting enough but because it not a "traditional" pax game and the theme is so uninteresting to me I can't decide if I should get it.
>>96527916Its long length + cruchy, perfect information gameplay that makes it so hard. Nobody cares that TI4 takes 8 hours to finish cause its largely a random luckfest bullshit so nobody at the table is stressed. 18xx literally requires a calculator.
>>96527869I beg to differ. I like the operating rounds as much as the stock rounds
>>96527942>TI4I doubt many people actually play TI4. One a year or something. There's probably more regular 18xx player than TI player.But yes there are people that have trouble counting past 100 and their "head hurts" if they have to sum three two digit numbers.
>>96526721I prefer Renaissance to Pamir but i can see how the latter got higher reviews with general audiences. Less rulles frontloading means less time between start of learning (which is not fun) and making decisions properly and strategically (which is fun) meaning more fun per session.
>>96526619Monopoly with expansions
I'm addicted to summoner wars, here are the spoilers for the upcoming factions. Drakesun dragons, remake of the guild dwarves from 1st edition, there's a remake of the deep dwarves from 1st coming, a fucking squirrel faction(wtf), and a turtle faction
Got my hands on the second edition of Castles of Mad King Ludwig game and I'm incredibly impressed with how well designed this insert is. Every type of piece has a spot that's clearly labeled and easily accessible even when fully loaded thanks to finger tabs.They're sturdy enough that you can pull them out and use them on the table should you wish to.They easily fit back into the box without having to cram anything. Also, the box has been designed so that the expansions can fit inside of it too.PicrelWhy can't all games be like this bros?
>>96528204Would unironically prefer just having everything float around untethered if it meant the box size can be halved
>>96527869The operating phases is what makes 18XX more than just a stocks game. By tying the share price to a players' actual ability to play the game it forces you to make actual choices on what to invest into. And sure, with static maps the first two rounds for each corp are always "get to closest city space and start making dosh with your 2-train" but some companies won't get started every game, meaning not all of the map will be developed and networked for the midgame, meaning whoever can adapt best to this will have the highest share price growth. But if you invest too far into a company the owner might just dump it on you by selling all the new trains he bought with your investment, buying some old about-to-rust train from his second corp, and selling his shares to the bank to make you president of a huge liability.Though streamlining it into something like Bus might work too, actually, if done properly.>>96527942>18xx literally requires a calculatorIt's adding single digit numbers together to a total of like 40 or 60 max then giving that much per number of shares to each player. if you have trouble with 3rd grade level math you might wanna brush up on the old material, if you don't wanna be called a retard that is. I'd understand if you were angry at actually math heavy games like Leaving Earth but there math is expected because it's literally rocket science.
>>96528204Because the MSRP is ~$70 for a game that should be ~$40 or less that you could organize just as well (if not better) in the box with a ~$2 plano or counter tray.
>>96528158Blacksuns got some cuties!>>96528169>haz tankAnd im sold.>>96528149Thanks anon, i was wondering if deep dwarves would ever see the light of day. Especially as their alliance faction deck was the origin of boost counters.
>>96528264>>96528204ziploc back masterrace>>96528300np, couldn't find any more info on the turtle faction, but I love me some groak frogs so I'm stoked for em. The smasher hammer car looked hilarious in the squirrel faction, I will admit
>>96528158>>96528162>>96528169Looks like shit tee bee haydge
>>96526372Pax Renaissance 1E or Innovation.
>>96526721I think this is mostly right, Pax Hispanica is underrated only because it's new, I didn't get why others here disliked it so much. I think Pax Pamir is a little overrated because the production is so good, but it's still in the top 3 Pax games.
>>96528380I didn't like the art at first, but the gameplay made me get used to it
>>965284322e can also fit in a small box, you can use cards to lay out the map
>>96528233On one hand if you go for the expansion then at least you won't have two big boxes on your shelf eating up space or have to deal with awkwardly squeezing the expansion into the base game. But if you don't have the expansion then yeah there's no denying the box eats up more space than it should. >>96528264>that you could organize just as well (if not better) in the box with a ~$2 plano or counter tray.I very much doubt you could organize this better with that setup. Well enough? Sure, but just as good, let alone better? I'm not sure about that.But I'm open to being proven wrong if any anon wants to post their homebrew solution (hard mode: it doesn't use a 3D printed insert).>Because the MSRP is ~$70 for a game that should be ~$40 or lessWhat if I told you I bought it on Walmart.com for $32.74? It's still on sale there for that price too by the way.>>96528333>Ziploc back master raceI too come from Ziplocia. Here's my copy of Flashpoint which probably isn't my worst example.
>>96528503>picYup, this is the way
>>96528503I feel like 90% of the games pre-2000 look that way and that's fine with me. Fuck plastic inserts eating up a large portion of space for nothing
>>96526917SUSD love Inis
>>96528149QRD on Summoner Wars? Never heard of it
Order the following by intensity of autism;>Sleeving autism>Insert autism>Box size autism>Edition autism>Playing LNoE over 1k times by yourself>rules autism>Solo autism
>>96528674Honestly, it's odd if you're on this general and not autistic
>>96528503Flashpoint is just such a dull game. Move two times and put out a fire, then spend the next five minutes adding tokens to the board. The only thing more boring than waiting for other players to end their turns is waiting for other players to end the game's turns.
>>965286741). Train autism....9999). All other autisms
>>96528674>>rules autismwhat does this mean? searching for weirdness in rules as written to make the game worse for all concerned?
>>96528654card duel game with some fresh mechanics, it's a mix of traditional card game stuff with no passive resource generation (have to kill opponent units or discard own cards to get mana for your dudes and spells) and tactical skirmish game with grid based movement and diceroll attacks. All you need to play is one deck, though if you have multiple you can mix and match cards from them according to some rule i forget. Has a pretty good digital implementation too if you're allergic to cardboard.
>>96526917Rising Sun
>>96526917Ankh
>>96526917Cyclades, brutha
>>96528689Indeed>>96528721I almost added train autism but that seemed like such an obvious choice for most intense autism it wouldn't start discussions>>96528723Yes.>This isn't clearly worded so I'll pilpul interpret it as beneficial for meOr>This 1:100 exception isn't clearly worded/there's no 5th tier tiebreaker/starting player rules are deliberately stupid, thus the game is shitThat kind of autism
>>96528654Like other anon said. A game with a bunch of factions that play surprisingly different to each other go head to head dueler style. You can teach the game in 3 minutes, but the depth is there. The fun part is how asymmetrical the factions are, you can pick one up and play it over and over again to figure out its nuances. The faction your playing becomes the puzzle along with how to defeat your opponent. Theres quite a bit of content out for it, but I'd recommend getting a deck(after the starter box, ofc) that piques your interest. It really feels like the greatest hits of a ccg with premade decks, although there is a whole deck building element that I don't really care about. The dice are the most divisive part of the game as some players say that wiffing could make or break your game, but honestly with how many attack rolls are in a game (30-40?) it averages outRecommend checking out the online version.
>>96528802>That kind of autismusually it deserves the top 3 spots, unless the autism forces the autist to write an e-mail to the game's author clarifying the rules inconsistency which then leads to FAQ documents or a revised rulebook, then the autism is alright.
>>96528827Autism is autism. You can use it for good or you can use it for evil, it's still the same thing.
>>96528079>start of learning (which is not fun)I completely disagree with this statement but I know I'm in the minority.
>>96528847>with great autism comes great responsibility
>>96528986I will concede that my phrasing was maybe not the best, the point is turning gameplay levers around with no goal nor intent is less fun than knowing what you're doing and taking actions with full or even partial intent, and the latter doesn't happen immediately when you first open the box and set the game up. Accidentally blocking someone's route for the first time in Hansa Teutonica might be something you don't realize as a good thing until a few rounds later, but after you realize that you start intentionally blocking routes until you learn how much is too much and when to start focusing on your own gameplan.
>>96528674>LNoE>Insert>Edition>Box size>Rules>Solo>Sleeving>>96528721what even is "train autism", just sounds like a made up meme
>>96529053>just sounds like a made up memeOh yeah? Name every train.
>>96528712I do think the expansions helped. The ones that added different players gives flavor and makes people feel like they're doing their part. I have fun memories of being the truck water gun dude and hosing down an area so a paramedic could run in and heal some people. After that the rescue dog came in and led them all out in one fell swoop. The Tragic Events expansion made the game better too as you didn't have to fiddle around with those obnoxious hot spots anymore. Flip a card and resolve the effects. All that aside, I busted it out again recently after not having played it for a while with some players who hadn't tried it before and it fell flat. It was late and I should've picked something quicker, but part of me wonders if I've outgrown it. It'll be a tough one to sell for me if that's true. It was one of the earliest games I bought when I got back into board gaming again in ~2013.
>>96528712>>96529197>The ones that added different players gives flavor What I meant are the expansions that added different fire fighters to play as, each with different abilities and such.
>>96529053>what even is "train autism", just sounds like a made up memehttps://autisticandunapologetic.com/2020/02/16/why-do-autistic-people-love-trains/
>>96528204Too bad the game it's just mid.
>>96528503I should have taken a pic of my ziplock-filled Horseless Carriage. Easily 30+ baggies pushed together to fit in the box lol.
>>96529263I meant in the context of board games...I don't think so called "train autists" play 18xx's, at most they'll play ticket to ride or shinkansen zero kei and that's it, probably not even iron rails games, they're a myth and i dont see why they get mentioned
>Be me>Pretty sociable dude, people generally get along with me >Nerdy and proud of it, but know how to jive with people who aren't >Was popular with girls, especially the bookish ones, back in high school>Proud that I'm not one of those obnoxious weirdos I see at gaming conventions that make me cringe>Very glad that I'm not autistic>Occasionally enjoy dunking on my autistic friend, especially when his 'tism gets triggered> See >>96528674>Sleeve most any game I like unless it's dirt cheap and easy to replace (Guillotine) or you hardly ever shuffle the cards (Spirit Island)>Often pay a friend to 3D print me inserts for games>Treat a game's box size as a major factor in determining its value and worthiness of being in my collection>Have been known to hunt down old out of print editions of games just because I hated the newer edition's art, especially if it was rethemed>picrel
>>96529295you forgot>posting on bgg
>>96529295you aren't fooling anyone, the first 7 >'s aren't about you
Ok train aut.. chads, what are your favorite train games?
>>96529332trains do be pretty based, tho
>>96529332Ticket to Ride Maerklin
>>96529332ttr europoor
>>96529295Don't let yourself get gaslit by the autistic community into thinking you're one of them. Remember: they have no idea how your brain works the same way you have no idea how their brains work. chatGPT says that if you suspect you have autism, you should get professional testing. Or kill yourself, retard.
>>96529363>>96529367Which ticket to ride is bgg's fav? Haven't gotten into them, but they're popular enough
>>965293321830 Railways & Robber Barons
Imperium fakkin slaps bruh I can't stop playing it and roped in the nerdiest nigga i knew to play with mebut really it's made me realize people just wanna play cardboard computer games at this point. fucking paper automoton shit makes me laff but it's fun
>>96529424brainrot or bot post?
>>96529431brainbot
>>96529424>but really it's made me realize people just wanna play cardboard computer games at this point. fucking paper automoton shit makes me laff but it's funthis is why MTG Arena is superior. Imagine following triggers on the stack IRL like some fucking geek lmao
>>96529461I admire your baitcraft anon, it genuinely is pretty good
>>96529525The G in MTG stands for Geek
>>96529293I know people with an enviably busy gaming schedule who play 18xx games 95% of the time, occasionally you can get them to come out for cube rails. The people playing 18xx games 100% of the time are never seen by the rest of us, my impression is that there's many of them. There is a seamy autistic train underbelly to board gaming that most normal gamers only get random and tangential glimpses of.
>>96529575This is how I feel about GMT players Speaking of which, China's War is charging on the 15th. Yippie
sup guys, new to board games (in as much as the furthest I ever got after Monopoly was Carcassonne and Catan) and i've been trying to find something that appeals to me. My perception is that "enthusiast" board games is extremely fucking reddit. Am I wrong?
>>96529626Depends on what you mean by enthusiast. There are reddit boardgames for sure, but there are also 4chan boardgames
please don't respond to obvious bait
>>96529626Despite the name, somethingawful board games are a lot of fun if you don't mind paying the premium
How's pic related?Dollarama is selling it for $5 (Canadian!) and while I'm not that much into BGs, maybe it can be something I play with my wife or my friends
>>96529626To avoid reddit games, stay away from these publishers:- CMON (should be easy, they're almost dead)- Steamforged Games- GMT- Archon Studios- Smegmayer Games- Level99 Games
With the new version of Arkwright coming out, has anyone played Arkwright?
>>96529575>>9652959618xx has the same demographic as wargames aka 40+ boomers with jobs and families. Lots of these people genuinely like trains and historical context behind various train development. Seminal 18xx game (1830) came out 40 years ago.
>>96529706You'd think that but there is a relatively substantial 18xx community that doesn't overlap with the wargames community. It draws from the same demographic of 40+ balding, overweight autists but they're not the same.
>>96529744Are you having a stroke anon? Do you need help?
>>96529759I'm just still pissed off at Monikers and CMKY is reddit
>>96529658I'm an ebaum's world gamer myself>>96529693If you want to stay safe, there's only 1 non-reddit game, and it's Last Night on Earth as we all know.>>9652970642yo Greatest Generation here, so glad I dodged being a boomer
>>96529645What's a 4chan bg? Horseless carriage?
All board games are reddit. Yeah, I said it.
any thoughts on the Metal Gear Solid board game?
>>96529626>"enthusiast" board gamesdefine that term more thoroughly if you want a good answer
>>96529903Shan't be buying slop derived from licensed IPs
Are any of these games wort getting into?>Railways of the Lost Atlas>City of the Big Shoulders>ArkwrightRotLA was discussed here and I really like the modular nature, easier play for newcomers and shorter play time.Big shoulders is also interesting but I can't tell from reviews if 18xx player dislike or like it because it's a "half" of 18xx.Arkwright was supposed to be this big heavy economic game. But it's been some time since it was available so it could be that the game is no longer that great compared to others that come out in the meantime. I don't know.
>>96529903i think it's pretty good as far as adaptations go, turns are snappy, there's strategy and tactics in each scenario, but the boss only scenarios are the weakest part because it's always some sort of gimmick.
I just cant get over the table space for games. It could be the best game ever but the fact it's a giant tablehog completely turns me off. Anyone else has this problem? Any game that convinced you otherwise or you made a genius modification to reduce the space required?
>>96530031Buy a bigger table.
>>96530038Any recommendations?
>>96530031use two tables together, add a tablecloth so nothing slips through the middle
>Potion explosion finally arrives from Walmart>They send the wrong fucking edition>This is after an eBay order gets set back by a month, and then canceledThis game is cursed or something
>>96529983I've been playing the fuck out of CoBS on BGA, a fusion of 18xx stocks and eurosloppa tableau building is very satisfying if you're already a eurochad
>>96530135https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-8-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Sheathing-Plywood-Actual-0-344-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-19837/206821410Get four of these. Lay two down with the long edge touching, then lay two more on top but rotated 90 degrees. That will cover the seam and reduce (but not eliminate) flexing. Glue won't work therefore but the sheets are thick enough that you can use 1/2" screws made flush to hold the top and bottom layer together. Stain it, then prop it against a wall. Lay it down on your real table when it's game night and you need the B I G table
Best japanese designed game? Bonus points for obscure but god tier stuff that can only be found in Japan, or that it doesn't exist on the gulag!
>>96530306Remember Our Trip comes to mind as being pretty good. I'm not deeply versed in Japanese games though outside of Oink's catalog.
>>96530306Have you tried rising run?
>>96529983Railways is absolutely a must own even if you aren't a train nerd but like heavy operational euros. Arkwright is worth playing but maybe not owning - it's a huge amount of setup and upkeep for what you get out of it. City of Big Shoulders takes everything good about Arkwright, slims it down to make it manageable and more fun, then ruins it by making the appeal track the focus of the game. The ONLY way to play the game is with the advanced supply chain variant. That said - I'd gladly play Arkwright and CoBS over most games.Both Arkwright and CoBS had reprints announced - I think the CoBS one is due out in November so you might find a copy if you want it.>>96530306Nokosu Dice
Now to type up the player cards.
What's a good medium weight/heavy weight 6 player game?
>>96530561have you tried Twilight Imperium 4e?
>>96530579I should say that can be played in a reasonable amount of time, I love that game to death
>>96530589>6 players>medium/heavyweight>playable in a reasonable amount of timePick two. I kid, a little bit. Try Unfathomable or Dominant Species.
>>96530306Paper Tales
>>96530561Guards of Atlantis
Does anybody have the promo card file for Pax Transhumanity? The dropbox link for it is gone.
>>96530632Is unfathomable's expansion any good?
>wake up in a gloomy damp basement, naked, chained to a radiator >Cole, Jamey, and Vital are standing around you>"you can leave when you beat us in a game of Root">they are clearly intending to board diplomatic and kingmake against youHow fucked are you?
>>96530411Is Arkwright actually an economic game or just another euro with an economic "theme"?
>>96530561Cosmic Frog, Guards of Atlantis, Dune Uprising
>>96530306Sakura Arms>>96530561Dune Sidereal Confluence
>>96530846I call Lord of HundredsTheir booties belong to me now.
>>96530750There were promo cards???Man I wouldn't mind adding a handful of additional techs.
Jongetsgame's video on Innovation sold it for me what a mad lad
>warned for saying cmky put a pegging card in monikers
>>96530882It's 1 (uno) card, A gold-Gold that rounds up the color distribution to the same for each pair of color combinations for a total of 112.
>>96530778Never played it
>>96530778it's unfathomable
>>96530846Eh, easy. I'll roll Woodland alliance and constantly complain how the game won't let me play and how I am so many VP behind. Lacerda will be easy to steer into a debate about what good game design is at which point any semblancs of an alliance betweem them is off. Then I'll just say 'So, who punches the vagabond?' and their hatred for each other wiill be eternal. Meanwhile Jamey is in full pstd minute from second 1 on as he cannot handle the fact you can interact and noone gets boni for it; there's actual purely negative interactionAnd then I get out my gun and shoot them all
>>96529575my point wasn't that people who play 18xxs dont exist, my point was that 18xx players aren't train autists. at the very least I don't see them only as "train games">>96529983strongly recommend RotLA, don't know the other two but I've always wanted to try arkwright
>>96529900no lies detectedeverything from Uno to that 18xx shit people were talking about
God Root and Oaths safe friendly reddit art makes me want to burn every copy
>>96531112Ok
>>96531154DUDE I LOVE HECKIN MILLENNIAL ME MES IN MY FANTASY GAME
>>96529626no but the good news is we might see a backlash against the redditfication of board gaming soon (source: my own copium)
>>96531165
>>96531154btw favour is spelt incorrectly
>>96531187
>>96531182I do think that the preorder kickstarter slop "buy games and keep them shrinkwrapped lol i might have a problem haha" era might be nearing an end
>>96531154>harold is the heraldFour years later I make the connection.HA!
>the unwrapping experience
>>96530561New Angeles>>96531079I can't help feeling like if any of you actually understood how to play Scythe you'd probably enjoy it.>>96531090In the context of board games, train autists are people who are intensely into 18xx. You're probably right that there isn't a lot of overlap between them and foamers.
>another go at seeing just how good Sol is, this time at fourMuy bueno
>>96531232referring to 18xx players as "train autists" seems out of place, there are trains sure but that's hardly the main part of the game, you could probably make a 18xx where you build canals and use boats instead and they'd still play it anyway>scytheyeah that's another often misunderstood game hereI still play it with my group from time to time and we always have a great time
>>96531260Happy you finally got it off the shelf, anon
>>96529903It's kind of annoying the way the missions have varying number of characters. Game is fine but if you're that much of a MGS fan I don't know why you wouldn't just play the video game.
>>96529424>I don't know why you wouldn't just play the video game.>>96529424>people just wanna play cardboard computer games at this point
>>96528253>if you have trouble with 3rd grade level math you might wanna brush up on the old material,Nonsense. He should construct a nomogram.
>>96530306Umataka is amazing.
>>96531277I'd love to keep arguing with you but I'm worried someone will call us train autists for it. Hope we can agree that a blimp train 18xx would be awesome.
Speaking of reddit earlier, I loathe the soloboardgames one. Its so homogenous. Some dude posted their top 65 list that had great games that werent what they jizz over and like every comment is "i dont like any of that but cool" like shut the fuck up holy shit the one time someone list has goat wargames on it and isnt just spirit island and mage knight their brains go to jelloIt just fuckin sucks as a currently mostly solo player how AWFUL the people are in that niche at stepping outside their safezones
Anyone getting Nobi Nobi? Can you scan it?
>>96531778Isnt this the perk of being a solofag, though? Every single person in your niche could be a wretched human skidmark, and what do you care, you'll never have to game with any of them.>>96531798>Anyone getting Nobi Nobi?Is that Moon for blowjob? Might get one later
>>96531855100%, I mean the community aspect of it is shit but it would be nice to socialize about solo games. It also makes finding anything new a huge chore. The bias in solo boardgaming is unreal. Theres no 18xx vs wargaming vs euro. Its just the same lcgs, expensive kickstarter campaign games, and tin games. Over and over. Serious cult vibes. As a person who plays old school hex stuff two handed Im a pariah
>>96531855>>96531878I think its the self fulfilling prophecy in some ways. New to solo, not sure what you like, go online for suggestions, get told ABC, try them, like B a lot, start getting a lot more game like B, try C - eh why would I bother when its just me and I rather play B - and thus never really branch out.t. fag who now has 7 Rosenbergs
>>96531798no thanks
Any GMT gigachads able to drop their COIN game ranking/tier list? I am wanting to get into the series and to drag people in with me. Rules overhead is not a concern with core group members, but we have a few floaters that drift into sight every now and then.
What do I introduce to a couple friends who've only played Catan
>>96531277Are the scythe expansions any good?I don't think Scythe is even that bad it's just an engine builder where resources are shared on the map and you want to put your dick on the table occasionally but it constantly saying its a 4x in the book is retarded
>>96530175Get them to send you the right one. Or do they not have it?You know where to get the 2ed.
>>96531579It doesn't look that special. What makes it great?
>>96531878If you're willing to multihand stuff the world is your oyster. Paths of Glory was pretty fun solo, I just drew 2 cards for my opponent and picked 1 to resolve in the way that fucked me up the worst. Triumph and Tragedy 3 handed was more fun than it had any right to be.>>96532046Does player count matter? Pretty sure none of them go above 4.>>965321686+7 player one is good, airships are meh, campaign one is great if you're into that, decent if you aren't.
>>96532046If you like history, pick whatever period appeals to you most. If you want all bells and whistles, its Fire in the Lake and Pendragon. Cuba Libre is a quick and dirty one. Colonial Twilight and Gest of Robin Hood are the 2 player options. I personally really like Vijayanagara cause the COIN player is alone and gets absolutely dumpstered on the entire game by two other players AND an AI faction of mongols
>>96532063Rebirth. It's got an island and little cards. For all they know, that's similar. In reality, it's a good enough Knizia of similar weight that also happened to be published recently, which will partially satisfy both haute gamer and consumer personalities.
>>96532369>Triumph and Tragedy 3 handed Absolute madness
Is samurai worth buying second hand, or should I just get Babylonia?
>>96532570Babylonia. It's fantastic but will also probably be harder to find eventually. Samurai is being reprinted as Hanami and will probably be everywhere soon à la Ra.
>>96532570Buy samuraiAll the cuties play it
>>96532063Sheriff of nottinghamRaChinatownDiamant/Incan goldSomething like that
>>96532063If they can handle Catan they can handle pretty much anything. Give them a medium weight game you like and maybe some of them will "get" it faster than others.
>>96531461you can play with less than the total character count per mission.
>>96532739You are not getting a Catan normie directly into something like Sidereal confluence or Pax Rennaissance, be realistic here.
>>96529983not to say those games are bad or anything but you might also want to check Arkwright the card game and Imperial steam,
>>96529903It's an alright adaptation, but nothing special. Wouldn't suggest going out and buying it unless you get it for a steal.
>>96532760that's why i said give them a midweight game first to test the waters, if they can handle that you can keep bringing tougher games.you'd be surprised at how smart the average no games normie is
What's everyone's opinion of IV studios (IV games)? Have you played any of their games? What do you think?They made some known games but I haven't played any of them and never saw anyone else play them. But you can see their games on DT regularly and other yt videos.
>>96523873>It's a very operational game so euro players like it - you win by building and running good networks and blocking the shit out of others.I never played any of these train games but is it similar to Age of steam? Building routes and blocking others? Whats the big difference between the two?
>>96530306>japanese designed gameBesides the thousands of tricktakers, there were Ostia and Amalfi that are pretty popular right now. You have Sweet lands getting big hype.I'm sorta interested in Compania and Railway boom. Thing is, I suck at judging games from videos. It looks good but obviously they want to sell the game..
>>96532982Same for me. I only see their games mentioned by youtube reviewers. Their games look interesting and have a unique style but also feel a bit gimmicky, so I can't tell if they're really good or not.
>>965305617 wonders>But it's lightweight!Then put some thought into your decisions
>>96532046Cuba Libre is supposed to be the starter game, but skip it. Honestly, skip it. The map can cause people to turtle and then nothing happens. If you have very aggressive players who aren't scared of getting outside their comfort zone it might be fine, but so many players when confronted by a new and semi-complicated system will play defensive and then Cuba Libre falls apart. If you want a single game to get people in, I'll shill Liberty or Death>whySome COIN games have genuinely ugly maps. Looking at you All Bridges Burning. If you have hex and chit players then the map won't matter. But let's be real: so many people in the board gaming space need visuals to get invested, and Liberty or Death has a pretty map. It helps. And mechanically, it's the COIN game with the most flexible player count. Most COINs truly demand four people, Liberty or Death can be played with three because France is easy to bot. The other entry point you could consider is The British Way or (probably) the upcoming Guerilla Generation>whyBecause they're a dedicated 1v1 experience. Find the one dude in your group who's willing to give it a shot, teach him, and deputize him to help introduce more people to COIN The COIN in French Algeria is also 1v1 but it's designed more like the rest of the franchise. It's not a bad game, make no mistake, but it's a lot longer and harder to teach than The British Way >natural caveat: if you have history nerds in your group, then you can make any COIN work if they care about the conflict. Vietnam nerds can jump right into Fire in the Lake and get hooked, but if they aren't vietnam nerds? Fire in the Lake is LONG and will be a hard sell
>>96532063Depending on what they liked about Catan, try La Famiglia or Rising Sun, or whatever Lang game you preferLa Famiglia is a fair bit more complicated than Catan but it'll feel familiar in terms of the board.Lang games meanwhile really win on presentation and with the usual planning/action phase split you can have people feel successful and get invested even if they never win a battle.
>>96532982>IV studiosI have never heard of them. Which channels are shilling them? also>check them out on the gulag>a few games and a whole pile of expansions for each of themI have my concerns. What are the good things you've heard about them? I'll keep an open mind
>>96533248if anyone wants to contest that La Famiglia is accessible - I just taught it last month to a guy who told me Monopoly and Risk were his favorite board games, and he played great. we’re playing again tomorrow.
>>96533338i mean the hardest bit is explaining the action auction and how actions are different from orders
>>96533255>Which channels are shilling them?I looked into it a bit more. I know they had a lot of exposure on Dice tower. But also found them on other american yt channels. Maybe they are more popular in US?>What are the good things you've heard about them?I heard of Veiled fate but it's a deduction/bluffing game so I wasn't as interested in it. I don't know if their games are good it's just that I saw a bunch of their games recently and thought it's weird that I never saw any of their games anywhere outside youtube (and on KS where I was checking out Lost Atlas). So I just want to see if it's just me or this part of the world or something.
Anyone tried cowboy bebop deck builder? I watched the anime forever ago and don't remember it much. Heard some good stuff about the game and it's on sale for really cheap where I live. Slop? Based? Cringe kino?
>>96533338>>96533248>>96532969I am not sure if there is some kind of biomarker for boardgame aptitude, maybe some anon who has a public group can tell us something about this.My experience is that you really can't tell other than by feeling. Formal education is not that useful, I've had my full time barista friend go from zero to Ti with no issue, I've had fellow academics not get Secret hitler after the fifth game. You never truly know until you've tried, but I maintain that gateway games are kinda gay and unstatisfying for everyone
>>96533017>CompaniaIt looks like a game that might be very random and it might lead to some bad games. That was my impression from their gameplay video.
>>96533427I haven't played it but I head positive things.
>>96532982Just from the logo I mistook it for Mindclash games and was gonna ask about Trickerion since it looks like their most highly rated game.But these guys are like you mentioned constantly shilled on the dice tower. They regularly have full playthroughs of their new games there.
>>96533017>Sweet LandsI've played 2-3 times this week on tts to get a feel and I don't think it's worth it, the game feels like a chore, it's... well basically terra mystica except everyone has their own map>Amalfihow's it? i've noticed a surge of copies coming out in the second-hand market... and all of them are in french>Ostiastill haven't seen a single copy of this one, but I think i'll try this one next, it looks interesting
>>96533450>AmalfiAmalfi has a second edition version Amalfi: Renaissance. Maybe that the reason? I haven't played it but a group in my local game meetup has been raving about it for months now.
>>96533466Yes I meant renaissance, they're all Amalfi:renaissance
>>96532369Up to 4 but playing well at two would be ideal. I have 4 who claim to want to play, but they're flaky. The guaranteed attendees are me and my wife. She liked Twilight Struggle enough to precipitate this recon mission.>>96532385Pendragon, Falling Sky, ADP and FitL all appeal to me. First two particularly because of Asterix and Arthurian myths. I am probably most interested in the upcoming Somalian and Japanese titles which seem far enough away to make it hard to really get into the series in a timely manner.>>96533228We play lots of high conflict games. We recently moved and still are teething with new locals. My worry is more towards overcommital behaviour creating a runaway leader than a lack of conflict.Thank you for your advice and queries, anons.
I was thinking of getting Agricola or La Havre. I don't have any Uwe games and I like agricola. AffO was ok but I didn't like it as much as gric. La Havre also looks interesting but no one here has it to try it out.Anyway I was checked the new version of Agricola and it looks like a mess. They made it with this realistic art style and I don't like it as much. Maybe I just got too used to the goofy but charming old aesthetic. Besides the art they cram everything into this new edition. All the cards, Farmers of the more + base game is the smallest you can get. Who needs all those cards? Plus they have a cardboard version of resources? It raised over 5,8 mio euros, who buys this??
>>96533650if you dont mind a game that will take 3 hours or more (at least for the first few plays) then Le Havre is the superior choiceOtherwise you can stick with Agricola which is still a great game
>>96533650Hobbyist boardgamers are chronic consoomers
After playing a bit more I changed my mind on Five Tribes, it's actually a very deep game with interesting strategic opportunities
>>96532982I've played a handful of their games(Veiled Fate, Moonrakers, Moonrollers, and Brink). None of them are good designs. They usually fence sit too hard and try to round the edges off heavy designs or add euro/asymmetric mechanics to light games that aren't fun or have text so tiny that you require binoculars to internalize the board state.
>>96527022wouldnt be easier to buy gosu x instead of these? Gosu X seems a more refined version. also would buy Epic or Eternal Chronicles if you really want to but more than one card game.
>>96522542Came to this thread because I wanted to ask about Modern Art. Thinking of buying it and I know it's generally liked by posters on this thread. How often do you bring it out on game nights? What is the main draw of the game?
>>96534094The amusement and cunning comes from riding that fine line of gaining without giving too much away.
>>96528233I own Middara. Lets skip that part what you think of the game . It has tons of different tokens markers and cards. Bought fan made 3D boxes to store things separately still able to use them "relatively" quickly whenever needed. Using zip bags and grouping cards with rubbers would take 1000 times more to use and would make both setup and tear down also ingame a nightmare. using zip bags for smaller amount of groups of ingredient might work but even there sometimes you could just win a lot of precious time when you dont need to handle separate bags flying around. Your opinion is perfectly valid as well but I think the amount of time and effort and pain could be save with the right inserts (original or custom made). Also with a smart inserts you end up using still less space than zip bags due to they are grouped and ordered, the space is precisely used instead of depending how lucky you are currently to flatten the token piles in bags on top of each other.
>>96528523Agree since 98% of the time no much planning regarding box inserts and mostly the inserts not even functioning properly while eating up too much space. But card board inserts in this matter are no different either.
>>96532994Stock fuckery>>96533588Falling Sky, then, I think it's as good as FitL at 4 and better at 2.
>>96534094I bring it out surely once every 4 or so sessions, and we've always have a lot of fun with it. If you have any interest in auction games at all, you'll like it 99%. If I was at gunpoint I'd say a problem the game has is that suprise-ending a round with the double play cards can be a bit faggy but it's something you can play around if you know.Main draw is hyping up Karl "The grid man" Gitter with all your might and let your opponents massively overpay for them. It is so funny how easy it is for people to fall into the trap of 'it'll be worth 30k, so paying 25k is a steal!" and forgetting they paid YOU 25k. I'll add that it is suprisingly thematic for a knizia, almost accidentally so.pic related had a friend improvise a 5 minute story about Karl Gitter painting it to process his experiences in Ausschwitz (obviously as a warden). I still laugh whenever this painting comes up
>>96529332Would Colt Express be considered a train game? The Couriers & Armored Train expansion makes it so there are two trains!picrel
>>96534616forgot the pic
>>96532760I never introduce noobs to anything less than medium or medium-heavy. They're not children and I want to keep them thinking.Having an understandable theme (even if it doesn't appeal to them, although that helps) is the most important thing, because otherwise they can't build a mental model of the game, and everything feels arbitrary. Also, avoid games with components that people have to learn/know about, so no Agricola, there are too many cards to explain.Brass is actually great for introducing, because the cards are easily explained, and the thing that's not intuitive is connected vs in-network, but the first couple times that comes up people get it
>>96532063What games do you have on your shelf? We should start there (unless you're looking for an excuse to CONSOOM)
>>96534687Don't listen to him, it's fine to consooom in 2025But 2026 is the year we all play the games we have, zero new purchasesThe smart publishers see this movement coming and are cancelling and delaying projectsSlopmairer doesn't know about it yet, so they'll go bankrupt
>>96534720>Slopmairer doesn't know about it yet, so they'll go bankruptYou just told him
>>96534727Jamie doesn't visit this placeI'm sure he goes to reddit But I think most of his time is spent asking chatgpt game design questions
>>96534736>I'm sure he goes to redditGood. He can stay there. He's an insufferable faggot.Any anons try Hyperspace by Petersen Games yet? I can't get a read on it as a lot of the reviews and discussion is salted by people assblasted over their unending KS wait times for their games.
>>96534138Oh don't worry I'm not a purist that's going to pretend all inserts are shit. Sometimes (eg. Civolution) even the storage solution that comes with the game is very good. But usually, I find them annoying or unnecessary. At a certain amount of different components it'd really quicken setup, though.
>>96534736>But I think most of his time is spent asking chatgpt game design questionsUnironically could see that.>Give me (he'd never say please to a non-monority) an idea for a game that's never been tried. It should have a lot of artwork and nearly zero interaction between the players. There also should not be any feelbad mechanics, eg. ones where you are punished or must pay resources without gaining anything.>Vantage.jpg
>>96533427It's not bad. Seems like it was designed game first and the theme was applied later in development. The tempo of how fast other people are going after bounties matters a lot If they're going fast the deckbuilding element will be fairly orthodox because it needs time to spin up an interesting engine, but I'm someone who thinks the deckbuilding in popular deckbuilders like Dune:Imperium is bland. One thing I like about it is that it has some very minor semi-coop elements and that's just seems rare mechanically. There's another Cowboy Bebop game which is pure coop that captures the spirit of the show thematically a lot better (e.g., constantly fending off starvation) but some people think it's anticlimactic because ultimately you're racing to fulfill a recipe before time runs out.
>>96535246Good to know. I don't know if it'd compete with my other deck builders, but it's charming enough. Looking to see if it does anything standout or not. Still undecided on if I want to get it
>>96531260>SolHows the gameplay? After playing it a couple of times what are the good and bad that you noticed?
>>96530469looking great. I lazily proxied with a sleeved trad deck and slipped large suit icons down the backs. Still enjoying after several plays
Is 88% isopropanol safe for minis? Bought WotR used ages ago, and the dude had primed the minis. Don't think I'm gonna paint them, and I'm tired of sticky minis
>>96535519depends what the minis are made of. If it's ABS it might cause problems. An idea is to get rattle cans of the faction's colors and give them a lazy zenithal coat such as red, white, etc. It'll give it a cool look
the only board game reviewer I actually respect is Efka. Is there literally anyone else making major content that's independent and doesn't accept review copies?
>>96535582I'll experiment with a Gandalf mini, can just replace it with the LOME version, which he hadn't touched. Otherwise I'll look into that, thanks
>>96535601Accepting review copies is irrelevant You really think getting a $60 game is enough to sway an opinion for what amounts to at least 15 hours of work (learning rules, playing game at least once, probably 2-3 times, creating script, recording, editing, etc.). It's like $4 an hour, tops. He could easily make way more money on OF from the hairy dude community.
So I posted earlier about my insurance agent coming onsite to do an appraisal of my bg collectionShe called and cancelled I'm never going to get command and colors napoleanics to the table :(
>>96535662>She C&C'ed your C&CShe wants the D>>96535519If they're sticky there's probably mold release under the primer, you should use Simple Green. I would not use strong alcohol on plastics.
>>96535662Seems like she's asked my friends for advice on what the ususal way to treat someone into boardgames is
>>96535497I'm done with it, just making sure the dealer scripting follows the rules. Maybe I can just steal some regular poker code from another mod and save myself the trouble.
>>96535798Is it fun, mang?
>>96535805I played it a few times with my friends and they liked it.
>>96535601>doesn't accept review copiesHe doesn't accept review copies? I find it hard to believe. Is that something that he stated, is it part of his "shtick"?
>>96535730It turned out alright, actually. Tried using a toothbrush to actually brush off the primer, but it was a bit toilsome. Any better tools?
>>96535798You are DEFINITELY dealing wrong because those players should not have 8 cards. In a 4 player game each player is dealt 7 cards and 4 cards are set aside. The remaining 4 cards are only dealt out as "hand" cards once everyone commit the order of their sorted rows. The suits of t 4 cards et aside are known while sorting the rows but who gets which of the 4 cards is randomized after the rows are committed.
>>96536036>In a 4 player gameAnon... There are 3 players seated there.
>>96536052You're right. I thought anon was the cyan player but I see now he's orange and no one is cyan. 8 cards are correct for 3 players.
>>96535601I can respect it in terms of integrity (not like review copies are in any way equivalent to the 2k contracts KS slop ''''''''''reviewers'''''''''' sign to only say positive things about the product) but that helps little if he's one of the worst faggots in the industry
>>96535798There's still a point to be made that the suits of the 4 possible hand cards should be on display. You can see 1 is a black card and you can count the dealt cards to deduce that the other 3 are blue cards, but the rules say to make it easy to see.
>>96536136I'll get to it. I should've specified that I'm done with image editing, now I'm just scripting it. I haven't even done the central cards yet. Thanks anon.
>>96535601I don't watch NPI but isn't their channel part of a larger channel or something? I remember watching some game video and the guy said he played it with Efka and that he was his employee(?) or something in that manner. Could be a joke I didn't really care but now seeing your post made me think of that. I could also misremember it or it could be common knowledge for those that follow him.
Rise & fall?
>>96536200We do at times, yes
>>96535519Mini gamer here who has had to strip models in the past. Simple Green is my go to. You can leave the models in a Simple Green bath overnight and then use a toothbrush to remove the old paint. You won't get all the old paint from the crevices, but that won't matter if you plan to repaint them yourself. Alcohol works ok, but I've had the best success with Simple Green.
>>96535519You'll get more experienced anons in wargaming threads, but this video is the best I've seen when it comes to stripping miniatureshttps://youtu.be/OqBjt1wKZfc?feature=shared
>>96535636>make way more money on OF from the hairy dude community.Wait you're telling me I have a chance to make it big?
>don't have strong feelings about the dads on a map podcast>I listen to it when I have nothing better in my commute playlist>Eh it's a live episode about their convention, I'll listen to it for a few minutes>It's a lowish quality assortment of semi random clips of (very) drunk middle aged men raving about boardgames they playedI have no idea why but the raw fun it captured was intoxicating. I'm all hyped for the most stupid games now
>>96535636idk the issue for me is that reviewers are only focusing on shit that was served to them. I'd rather they genuinely sought out the game and invested in it, so there's no hint of bias. Even if they were just being treated to dinner or drinks I would think it's cringe. the review copy is even worse. Space Biff for example comes across as a big industry shill type to me>>96535958unless he's lying in his videos, he buys all the games they review>>96536190as far as I'm aware they're fully independent from patreon
>>96535798cute
>>96533650Worse was all the comments saying they'd buy the new version despite having 80% of the decks already That said it does the sole thing people wanted from the 15 year 'anniversary' - have all the decks - so you should be able to find it decently cheap if you can't find a used Revised edition. The inserts aren't nearly as bad as people made it out to be
>>96537633I agree on space biff, everyone pretends like he's some writing savant, and I just don't see itPlus I've seen him gush over mediocre games too many times to trust anything he promotes
I'm starting to think I'm falling into the midwit curve for Tash. It feels both too random and tactical of a game while also being insanely complex and strategic. Like even if I memorized every shape - hell even used a cheat sheet and crossed off my opponents cards - there's just so many layers to account for that I feel like the game does but doesn't want me to. Don't flood the board to fast, but do set up your next move, but don't get yourself pushed into a corner, oh btw you should have stopped their titan you know that shape don't you, too late their piece moved 3 spaces and you forgot that includes diagonalsIt's not a bad a time, but I can't say I walk away feeling smart
>>96537633>>96537767>biffy the spaceman
>>96537797How did reddit respond to this?Not showing your penis to another man who wants to see it is pretty homophobic by reddit standards
>>96537797what a fag
>>96537797this is such a bizarre example to compare with the queer experience
>>96537832fuck that's the first time I've seen this and that's exactly what we were debating about after our last playprobably would create crazy AP but even then it seems like I could actually plan 10% more
It's a shame that there's all this hullabulloo about Molly House. A board game about challenging your friends to sit down and see who can be the biggest faggot seems like a blast.
>>96538263But enough about Eclipse 2e
>>96537209>I'm all hyped for the most stupid games nowSuch as?
>>96537633>unless he's lying in his videos, he buys all the games they reviewI just checked and in his latest video he says they generally don't accept review copies - this one obviously was.Anyway review copies don't matter for his channel as speed is not their niche, they make long "essay" style videos. On the opposite side you have Dice tower which covers the speed and wide spread of games.But you do realize that most of these reviewers go to conventions and mingle with designers and other people in the industry. When they become big enough they get connections and become connected. Whether that compromises their opinion is up to you to decide.
>>96537767>space biff,I don't get his writing style, same with Wehrle. They write like movie reviewers. I just can't connect with their writing, it seems they put alot into the style and meaning wile missing some of the simple things. If feels like writing that is meant for other reviewers that have played the game / watched the movie.It reminds me of that video of Anabel Holland shitting on Dice tower about boardgames being art and not toys.
>>96537767>>96538718I've never seen anyone except the most pretentious of redditors come out with a positive opinion about ol' 'biffy>videowhich one is this? sounds funny. boardgames are obstentially toys but obviously some crazy retard who stole their ex groomer wife's last name probably cant stand that idea
>>96538342I seriously hope you're better at boardgames than you are at jokes cause that was rough buddy.
>>96538692he bought the game from Kickstarter and got a loaner copy to shoot in the meantime (which he also tried to just buy at the con). at least he disclosed it, and imo he already paid. he could've just played the game on TTS, but then you can't put up a video till much later. still better than average i'd say Dice Tower is like a content mill. I don't get who they're useful for
>>96538763>>96538718>>96537797I've initially found his prose very annoying and stuck up as well, but don't much mind it. He does give a good writeup in the susd style which I have come to heavily dislike - largely emotional. Mechanics, plays, theme - everything is about how things feel and how the narrarive structure is. Which is nice and all to get a ähm, feeling for a game but not helpful at all in my decision if I'll like it. I remember reading his la famiglia reviews (was one of the few out at the time I looked into it) and a good part of the review was about how the theme is in poor taste and ignores the history and yadda yadda, you know what comes up, the only suprise is that it doesn't magically segue in something about the evils of colonialism. He also then forgets to mention how the game is really fun.But that's his style and enough people dig it. I am left to wonder if he is some sort of person of worship for the wannabe intellectual or if his essays really say what people can't put into words. I think he's a nice dude with something interesting to say but oh my is his content faggy
>>96538873>I don't get who they're useful forQuite possibly people who aren't interested in rants about colonialism, boobs = bad and the diverese cast of -isms you need to be aware of to not make the mistake of judging [game] by it's gameplay.But yeah, other than vasel content I think tdt is a pretty meh
>>96538763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG4zLcKsCiA
>>96538965Haha. What a retard. Toys are art anyway, I don't get the issue.>>96538940'Biff definitely comes off as a sort of "opinion god" that you find in all sorts of media reviewers. He's of the same pretentious ilk that would be described as "Your favourite reviewer's favourite reviewer" or some shite that tries to excuse his toffness.
>>96538873>he bought the game from Kickstarter and got a loaner copy to shoot in the meantimeWho did he get the "loaner copy" from? And how? Because he has connections in the industry. And in the video he directly stated that they generally don't use review copies which means that sometimes (rarely) they do. But that doesn't matter. The point is that he has connections to the industry, he mingles with designer etc. so he is not completely independent. Doesn't mean he is a shill and it's nice that he tries to be as independent as possible.>Dice Tower is like a content mill. I don't get who they're useful forThat's their model. They review more games in a week that many reviewers do in a year. They rely on as many games and to have the review out as sons as possible. On the other side you have reviewers that do 10 games a year and they produce long detailed videos but they come out after the games is already out for some time.If only essay reviewers existed you would get reviews for max 20 games and that's it.
We should do a /bgg/ video review channel network
>>96538940> the game really makes you feel like spider-man
>>96538998definitely it's due to his clout and networking at a convention. he just reads to me as somewhat more principled than other reviewers. agree with his critique or not; I respect that aspecti just don't see what dice tower brings to the table over the numerous podcasts that discuss their impressions of games. do people just need that score out of 10?
>>96538998There's also the SUSD style review; like 30 videos a year yet somehow most of them feel like they've played the game 1-3 times at mosta snd 90% of the effort is spent on coming up with metaphors with a twist>It's like actually being spiderman, but the buildings are nazis an your webs is efficient administration
>>96539023>do people just need that score out of 10?I mean ideally it boils down a longer read to a super quick to process number, but if every game starts at 7 unless it is exceedingly bad, scoring loses its meaning
>every board game space outside of /bgg/ is having a meltie over what some boomer said on facebookis there really not anywhere besides 4chan left on the internet where one can talk about hobbies in peace
>>96539116people still use facebook?
>>96539116Oh godI kniw it's inevitable I'll hear of it and it'll only make me angry
>>96539116I sympathize with you, but by saying that you're only inviting such drama here too.
>>96539129>>96539125actually mb it's ttrpg spaces not board game spacesbut yeah you might and i'll save you the knowledge of this crap>>96539131yeah my bad
>>96539023I think DT is just first contact for a game review. You get a quick overview of a game and how it plays. They pump out a lot of videos and quickly so you almost always have it for any game. Podcasts lack the visuals so they are used when you at least know something about the game.>>96539050>coming up with metaphors with a twistIt might be a british thing?
>>96539134I'm sure it'll spill over but I am thankfully a lot less interested now. The further we go towards roleplaying, the higher the chances of tranny generated drama over nothing
>>96539134>actually mb it's ttrpg spacesI don't even know what this means?
>>96538965I mean sure some games are art, they are created with intent to have a message (like the ones presented in video) but majority are just products to make a buck. I don't think the latest hasbro game or some random game are made to be art or to have some deep message.
>>96539116Eceleb drama is the worst kind of discussion you can have online, thankfully only some parts of 4chan engage in it while the rest can be a hobby space just as moot intended.>>96539248mb = my badttrpg = table top role playing game (think D&D or Shadowrun or all the others)the point is it's not board games it's another offshoot of kriegspiel, ttrpg is a cousin of board games but not immediate family,and all it's drama should stay there and not here
>>96538263Is there actually something that has people angry about that game? I'm surprised none of the big mainstreamers have put out reviews yet, given it's from Wehrlegig and they slobber over anything that he could've even farted on. I just assumed it was shit and forgot about it.
>>96539137subscribing to dice tower and introducing yourself to games through their videos sounds like drinking from the fire hose
>>96535965You could try one of those ultrasonic jewlery cleaners. I've seen people use them to clean resin miniature prints
>>96539421That's actually a great idea, isopropanol worked great, but I really just need some agitation.
>>96539116share with the class dont be shy
war chest is so good
>>96539608Agreed, really love that game
As usual, I can't really bake before 2200 which is around 9h from now onBut some anonymous hero always saved the thread in time in the last few weeks
>ebay watch on labyrinth>copy with the two expansions pops up with a better than fair optional buyout>instantly hit the button>some retard has input the minimum starting bid in the seconds beforeDo these halfwits think there are actually auction bargains on ebay in 2025? Christ preserve us.
>>96539876I think if you put a bid on something it updates the price status for you
>greenland in sale for 20$ offAny anons got opinions?I love Bios Genesis, so dice fuckery is not a con for me.
>>96539515Shut the fuck up>>96540029I wouldn't own both, unless you really like the theme. Greenland is a similar uphill battle to get your cubes to stay anywhere but it's even more punishing. I guess it's like an unrefined Genesis with some Origins flavor.
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