Awkward Moments Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Level Animation:https://gofile.io/d/J7muqs>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/edit?usp=drivesdk>Previous Thread>>96520739>TQ:Don't have any.
Are all Howling Banshees female?That's not very inclusive of GW if so
>>96524212Eldar are a dying race.Necrons are a dead race that are just seeing how much they can drag down with them
>>96524295Why don't the Crons just time Travel and fix things like in The Avengers?
>>96524293They aren't. Male Banshees still wear the boob plate since they're emulating a mythical creature.Think of it like how men would act in place of women in ancient Greek plays. Or in Kabuki theaters.
>>96524300They can't travel that far. Also, Eldar and other psykers can time travel too anyway
>>96524300Sorry, marvel superhero bullshit is only reserved for Chaos.
who is the superior reptilian mercenary xenos, the kroot or the sslyth?
>>96524301>When you shit post but actually learn something cool
>>96524306>Also, Eldar and other psykers can time travel too anywayThen why didn't the Eldar just travel back in time to prevent their Fall?
>>96524271Nth for Space Marines
>>96524312They can't time travel that far. Also its implied time traveling too much can fuck shit up. Real answer is that time travel is too convenient a plot device
What's her lore?
>>96524310Kroot aren't reptiles, they're birds.>>96524311Most of the Aspect Warriors are emulating Khaine personified through a medium.Weirdly enough Dark Reapers are technically emulating the Nightbringer.
>>96524158If chaos is spice why don't they have any armies?
>>96524320She won't sleep with you, monkeigh.
>>96524300They can, but the Silent King forbids them from doing it since it can cause reality-destroying paradoxes.It's the subject of the second Ahriman trilogy.
Won round 2 against custodes!
>>96524320I don't like Deldar leaders wearing armor
>>96524325>>96524306oh shit ok very cool knowledge
>>96524321>Kroot aren't reptiles, they're birds.Anon, I have something to tell you about birds, you may want to sit down for this...
>>96524312Because time travel comes with an equivalent cost. They could prevent the Fall, but it would cause an even greater disaster to befall them. It's all inescapable entropic catastrophes. The Eldar and Necrons actually started patching time-singularities created during the War in Heaven by Chaos doing wild and uncontrollable time jaunts, sending daemonettes back 65 million years to before Slaanesh was even born. Chaos was trying to smash its way through time and space back then, so the Crons and Eldar teamed up to stop it, with only limited success. >yes, this means Chaos can just time travel all it wants with no negative consequences because bigger disasters just make it stronger in turn
>>96524327make sure to lower your score by 10 VP at the end for not fielding battle ready models
>>96524327Good shit anon, and nice models too!
Interesting bits from the Warhammer+ interview with Guy Haley:-Guy Haley's best-selling book is "The Dark Imperium"--When Guy left to work for White Dwarf/GW he was told by his mentor not to write tie-in fiction. The reason she told him this was because, at the time, there was a prejudice against tie-in fiction. Tie-in fiction wasn't taken as seriously by fans and the writing world. This snobby attitude persists nowadays, but it's nowhere as bad as it was. This bad reputation for tie-in fiction stems from it being seen as speculative work or spinoff material that often gets invalidated by the main franchise releases. (IE, franchise movies disregarding/ignoring what's in tie-in novels).--What's cool about BL is that its content is not treated as tie-in fiction. Writers get to input their work directly into the Warhammer universes. A lot of what's written in the BL books becomes part of the core lore. BL is one of the engines that drives forward the lore of Warhammer.--When Guy submitted his first BL novel "Baneblade" to BL, they sent him a large sheaf of notes of all the things he got wrong. It was something good because it was a learning experience.--Guy Haley and Gav Thorpe are friends. Among the subjects they talk about is Dawi lore. Guy's Duadrin books are inspired by Gav's work on the dwarfs in the old WHFB rulebooks.--Guy Haley believes that fantasy settings should have an element of realism. Once a setting has solid grounding, you can then add in stuff like giant daemons and dragons. This is how you make a believable setting. --Writing inhuman characters like the Primarch Roboute presents a challenge. Despite the differences between Guy Haley and Roboute (one is just some guy and the other is a genius demigod), Guy has to pretend in his head that he is Roboute and then figure out a way to project that inhumanity from his human self. This has the benefit of adding a human element to the character, allowing the readers to connect with him.
>>96524334By evolutionary definitions, humans are fish, so how about you put those down.
>>96524320>What's her lore?A slag that was Vect's side piece for a while. Then for somehow and some reason she got her back blown out by Cegorach and as a parting gift the Clown gave her his Crystal Heart or something.Will anything actually come of it though? Who knows really.
>>96524320Used to be Vect's girlfriendHe dumped her and she got really mad so she went out into the Webway to blow off some steamCegorach found her, did a little tomfoolery of swapping her heart out for a rock, and then she went back to Commoragh, potentially with Cegorach's luck backing her upBecame the top Archon in the Dark City barring Vect himself, who she had on-again-off-again relations with as they played political gamesMay have slept with Yvraine, not sure on that one though
>>96524345Wrong lmao
>>96524345Shush, eukaryotic bacteria.
>>96524340--One of Gav Thorpe's methods of making the Aeldari seem inhuman in the Path series is having them speak in haikus. Guy Haley decided to do the same thing in his Aeldari novel "Valedor".-Aeldari morality is different than humans. They do care, but understandably, they don't care for humans.-One of the great things about writing characters in Warhammer is that they exist in a shared universe. This means a character in a novel is the writer's interpretation of what many and many other writers worked on. A Warhammer character has many influences on them, and in trying to honour these influences, the character becomes more rounded and realistic than they would have been if they were the creation of a single author. This applies entirely to the Warhammer settings.-Cawl and Skarsnik have a similarity with each other in that they are Guy Haley's worst characteristics massively amplified and exaggerated. Cawl is Guy Haley's tendency to not follow the rules and do his own thing, which explains why he doesn't have a normal job.-Cawl's ego must be staggeringly immense to defy the crushing edicts and traditions of the Admech for millennia-Occasionally, disconnects in the lore happen, especially when writers are working on the same thing. One example of this is Guy Haley having Cawl being a young man in the HH series book "Wolfsbane" while studio material said that he was old before the Emperor ascended to the Golden Throne. -Guy's method of fixing contradictions is making both sides true. In his novel "The Great Work", Guy made Cawl into a gestalt being who is able to choose a blend of personalities.-Contradictions are opportunities to practice creative writing rather than being strictly obstacles-Guy Haley apolpgises for making a Cawl a version of himself-Cawl is a scientist, whereas the Admech members are not scientists at all. They don't create. They don't develop. An accurate term to describe the Admech is archaeologists.
>>96524340That’s interesting considering how since black library books don’t have rules in them none of them are canon.
>>96524362>--One of Gav Thorpe's methods of making the Aeldari seem inhuman in the Path series is having them speak in haikus. Guy Haley decided to do the same thing in his Aeldari novel "Valedor".Fuckin' weebs.
>>96524362-At one point in Guy Haley's career with BL, he became their fixer-man. Whenever an author drops out, they would get him to complete the commissioned work since he was reliable and quick.-A main theme in the Dark Imperium series is Roboute's reaction to witnessing the ruination of the Emperor's dreams and realizing that it is mostly his own fault. Basically, Roboute is now effectively the Emperor of Mankind, and it's his duty to fix what he broke.-Another main theme is Roboute's reaction to humanity worshipping the Emperor as a god when, back in the days of the Great Crusade, he saw religion as nonsense. -It was the Emperor's wish that humans rule the Imperium, not the Space Marines.-The Dawn of Fire series is open-ended. Guy and his team chose some plot threads to pursue, and some other plot threads were set up for authors years later to pick up and develop.-Guy Haley puts links in his books to his other works and also the works of other authors. For example, Captain Messinius was created by Guy as a link to the "Lords of Silence" novel by Chris Wraight. Partly because Guy Haley is greedy and wants people to buy more of his books, and partly, it encourages the readers to explore the other writers' books and the Warhammer hobby in general.That's it.
>>96524300If the crons travel back in time to save themselves they never get to the point where someone can go back in time to save them.
>>96524340>Guy Haley and Gav Thorpe are friends.Considering what Thorpe did to Valedor's ending I dunno about that
>>96524293>Are all Howling Banshees female?models? yesart? yesfluff? not always, there's no rule that prevents a man from walking that path and it's definitely happened because we have male autarchs equipped with weapons from the shrine, meaning they walked that path in the past it is possible that the path attracts predominantly females, but we haven't heard about that tendency it is possible that some shrines may have a girls-only restriction, but we haven't heard of itit is possible that men who walk the path still wear boob armor for ritualistic purposes, but we haven't heard of that either gw did greenlight pic related once, so that's definitely something you should feel free of converting with no issue
>>96524309and frogs
>>96524383>fluff? not alwaysargh...We have been over this.Males who join that aspect transition to being females according to the new lore.
>>96524383Part of me misses Eternal Crusade. Playing a Swooping Hawk was fun.Maybe I just miss the idea of it.
>>96524389>newLurk for eighteen years before posting.
>>96524310tarellian dog soldiersno nonsense, no edgy past, no tricks or misunderstandings
>>96524389Not the case. In the Jain Zar book there's a male Banshee Exarch referred to specifically with nale pronouns
this a good place to ask about mini assembily help? struggeling with SoB squad heavy flamer
>>96524399Retconned by the Da Big Dakka book.
>>96524407>The guy who wrote almost the entirety of Eldar lore was 'retconned' by some dipshit commisioned author who has a lesbian fetishNo.
>>96524403What's up my dude
>>96524371>>96524362>>96524340would have liked to see more of comments on fantasy and aos but that one and a half comment is probably the most I should expect.
ACTIOOOON
>a saturnine dreadnought is 87,50€excuse me what
>>96524327Is this argent shroud or the other white and red one i forgot the name of
>>96524419I dunno, ask /hhg/.
>>96524413i cannot figure out the orientation of part 119 that connects the right arm to the body. the picture in the manual is very obtuse
>>96524415He talks about AoS a bit more in the actual video mostly about how AoS' scope is large and his writing about his Kharadon character, but considering I don't have much interest in AoS I didn't write it down.
>>96524340>This bad reputation for tie-in fiction stems from it being seen as speculative work or spinoff material that often gets invalidated by the main franchise releasesNo, not really.BL gets a bad reputation because genuinely not that well written and lot of "lore reveals" are just honestly lame and not interesting.Like I'm beating a dead horse here, but Horus Heresy is a perfect example of this.It took mythical and cool figures, like the Primarchs and Emperor, that we didn't know much about but what we did know made them cool and interesting. And then made them really dumb and gave many the mental capicity of a 5 year old.Like Lorgar's fall to Chaos is really dumb>"There will be no religion within my Imperium." Says the EmperorA man who eradicates religions with extreme prejudice and Lorgar knows this.Lorgar then proceeds to create a religion that specifically centers around his Father, which leads to that oh-so-happy event on Monarchia.Emperor himself is another example, his main characteristic is that he despises Chaos with a passion and wants nothing to do with them or from them.So the writers than write it that the Emperor went ahead and made a Faustian deal with the reality parasites he abhors. It's stupid.
>>96524352She was Yvraine's patron in Commoragh back when Yvraine was a gladiator, right before becoming Ynnead's bitch. Unclear if Malys ever joined up like Lelith did
>>96524433>khadron talk Well I guess I gotta watch it now. Spot me a link?
>>96524440>She was Yvraine's patron in Commoragh back when Yvraine was a gladiatorOh they absolutely fucked
>>96524393Lets be real, it was an absolute mess.The flow of the game was fucked due to the antitank weapons.
>>96524442Warhammer+ is a GW service subscription. Can't.
>>96524366>Fuckin' weebsAlways was been. Thanks to memes, weebs turned into tau and freeing us from their shitty presence
>>96524337What's not battle ready anon?>>96524339Thankyou!
>>96524443Yeah I just checked, she was her champion, and big enough that Vect had Lelith duel her to send a message to Malys.
>>96524437Anon, the HH lore was already retarded before BL ever touched it. Lorgar's fall to Chaos was always a joke due to him ignoring the Emperor's 'no religion' edict from the earliest versions of the narrative and the Emperor not doing anything to make sure Lorgar would stay loyal after burning Monarchia. It's retarded because half the Primarchs that fell to Chaos could have been prevented if the Emperor had simply shown any oversight whatsoever, ESPECIALLY because he's supposedly able to foresee everything with his seer powers but he NEVER saw any of the betrayals of the Heresy coming? It's all stupid, BL just made it stupider by stating the Emperor always knew the Heresy would happen and so he just decided to not even try to prevent it or even give an effort to execute the traitors the moment they turned against him.
>>96524389>Males who join that aspect transition to being females according to the new lore.Mike Brooks fetish isn't canon.
>ZAAAMNN SHE'S 12???
>>96524450You hypocritical scum, posting bullet points recaps here because the people on reddit are faggots who won't talk with you.
>>96524425It's 'not quite' argent shroud, but very very similar. I flip between calling them Nyagent Shroud or Argent Meow'd.
>>96524450awww thought it was a youtube thing. Shame.
>>96524460The hilariously retarded thing about Goulding saying the Emperor planned the Heresy is that he specifically said the Emperor purposefully banned Space Marine librarians because he knew they would predict the Heresy coming and stop it. So one of the Emperor's most retarded actions, the one people use to say there's no way the Emperor planned the Heresy, was actually done on purpose by him.
>>96524430I had a sister squad still on sprue so clipped it out to show youThe arm goes between piece 121 and 120,
>>96524458If I could draw I'd already be working on a piece with Malys sitting on Yvraine's face in a casual party setting as a display of ownership.Oh well.
>>96524488>>96524430Im retarded
>>96524493why do your gun have blue balls on it
>>96524437Many details about the Primarchs were revealed in the Index Astartes articles and the Horus Heresy card game, not BL though.
>>96524305not funny>>96524340>>96524362>>96524371good read sir, I wonder if it's worth to subscribe nowadays
>>96524320>the old theory that yvraine was supposed to be a malys modelWas this actually true?
>>96524301Based desu. Too bad we can't have cool lore like this without some redditor having a smug, twitchy orgasm over it.
>>96524517absolutely believable right?
>>96524517No you retard
>>96524517>people originally hated the ynnari out of fears they would squat the old eldar and dark eldar lines rather than refresh them, similar to primarisI understand the concern but I doubt GW ever actually intended to do this. Does anyone think differently?
>>96524327I wonder if they could help me find the battle ready miniatures in that photo
>>96524460>Anon, the HH lore was already retarded before BLFair, but taking a thing that was bad, and then turning it into shit does not exempt BL from criticism.Nor does it invalidate the point of that BL stuff just isn't well written and the writers have a bad habit of taking pre-existing fluff that is fine as is, and then making it worse with their "reveals".Like imagine if Guy Haley released a new book tomorrow which revealed the 2nd and 11th primarchs and it reveals that both of them are actually alive and Leman didn't kill them, and both of them and their legions of marines have just been 10 000 years in hiding in a hard get to part of the galaxy with some post-scarcity human society that is anti-chaos and anti-imperium.Would this be good? Or make people think that BL is good and interesting?No. It would not.
How are Ashland fine stone granules for sand? They’re available as decorative sand from an art store near me and I don’t know any other place of getting sand for free in my local area.You can see them being used in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ceD_g9bn2CM&pp=ygUWU2FuZCBiYXNpbmcgbWluaWF0dXJlcw%3D%3DSorry about using mobile my pc is having troubles.
>>96524517no proof of it, but we're a suspicious bunch
>>96524524You have to remember anon, the Ynnari came about in a time where The End Times had just happened and 1st Edition AoS had reared its ugly head
>>96524327>>96524477Oh my god I only just noticed they all have cat ears
>>96524352>May have slept with Yvraine, not sure on that one thoughIt's true in my heart.
>>96524325>They canThey can't really, orikan is the most powerful chronomancer around and he's pretty vocal about the difficulties of time travel, and not just the political ones.
>>96524517compare her sword to malys'and the sword + fan comboit's very obvious
>>96524517Most likely true, yes. The Ynnari were a spur-of-the-moment addition to the setting and you can see all the suspicious similarities between Yvraine's mini and Malys's. The Visarch was also supposed to be a Corsair Prince mini, judging by the trophies on his armor. The last nail in the coffin is that the Yncarne was supposedly an Avatar of Cegorach before he got repainted to be a manifestation of Ynnead, and that fits the weirdly Slaaneshi, weirdly gender-amorphous appearance of the Yncarne much better as a Clown-monster, thing. All three minis were likely in the planning/pre-production stage when the powers that be decided to repurpose them as Ynnari models.Ironically, the Corsair Voidscarred models we have now were originally supposed to be Ynnari Battleline infantry, but got repurposed as Corsairs after the Ynnari went over about as well as a wet fart and the previous leadership that had decided to run roughshod all over the entire setting with Guilliman's return, the Primaris debacle, and the Ynnari was quickly replaced and GW started the long, slow effort of quietly pivoting back on-course.
>>96524503
Do the Black Templars have offshoot groups with different colors? I know that they don't have successors but is there room for any divergence from the main crusading force?
>>96524453>What's not battle ready anon?Well, given you don't shade your white, and there is white on every model. None of it is battle ready. Also the -10vp applies if there is any model in your army that is unpainted. You only get the vp if your entire army is battle ready
>>96524517It was fueled by the fact that Yvraine came out of nowhere to become the main Eldar character and also that she was replacing another Eldar woman as the main Ynnead worshipper, Iyanna. It was easy to extrapolate they'd fused Iyanna and Malys together
>>96524537For the empurror
>>96524517Jes back in 2017 say than Visarch creation was inspired by the proto-corsair
>>96524466>plumaSo are you just cycling through as many mobile browsers as possible to dodge bans
>>96524517>yvraine's tiny fan compared to malys'pathetic
>>96524555I'd like to think of the new WH+ mini was an Iyanna sculpt. With a headswap it's probably be fitting.
>>96524525Sorry for your blindness anon.
>>96524562What is this guy talking about
Another day another Word Bearer.
>>96524547>rumors we're getting a corsair prince model for end of editionWill be ironic if we get a legit Avatar of Cegorach too as the Ynnari fade further and further
>>96524542They can.Refer to the Shield of Baal: Devourer and the second Ahriman trilogy.Orikan's difficulties are the Warp messing with him.
>>96524552So you think every single model needs nuln oil over every inch of it? That's weird anon, you're weird.My white is shaded with white ink, you just can't see because it's so well blended :3
>>96524576Remember to paint your models anons.
>>96524551There are other Templar-like chapters, White Templars for example.You could get away with pretty much any colour + Templar and just say they are other IF successors.
>>96524555I forgot Sylandri too, she was the female harlequin mastermind involved in the 13th Black Crusade. Yvraine really felt like they'd combined three main Eldar faction chicks into one hodgepodge of an OC
>>96524493orientation, not location. think i got it now anyways after looking at the finished mini picture
>>96524547>Yncarne was supposedly an Avatar of Cegorach before he got repainted to be a manifestation of Ynnead, and that fits the weirdly Slaaneshi, weirdly gender-amorphous appearance of the Yncarne much better as a Clown-monster, thingthat's an extreme stretch, cegorach has no reason for androgyny or hermaphroditism.even of yvraine and the visarch might have been designs floating around for a while in jes's sketchbook, it's likely that the yncarne was cooked up after the idea formed, it's the one with the simplest and worst design, as well the only one with some unequivocal design elements that link it to slaanesh.
>>96524590Oh sorry, then it's gay as fuck like all Sisters
>>96524581
>>96524530Go to your local baseball diamond with a Tupperware, don't be fucking retarded like the severan dominatefag and buy sand online. If you live in a hellish landscape with no baseball then go to your local walking path, stream, public park, public parking lot, etc.
>>96524590It only has one orientation, it locks in place between those unless you have clipped away too much
>>96524594ba dum tss.
>>96524601I don’t know who that is but it sounds like a funny story. Can I get a rundown?I’ll try those locations never thought of those places thank you.
>>96524562Idk who you are accusing me of being but take your meds
>>96524591>that's an extreme stretch, cegorach has no reason for androgyny or hermaphroditism.Other than taking on any form he desires as part of his performances? The way the body of the mini looks like it's mid-transformation from one side to the next very much fits what Cegorach is all about, shifting and changing identities.> as well the only one with some unequivocal design elements that link it to slaanesh.This is the smoking gun. The most elite of Cegorach's followers like to disguise themselves as Slaanesh, it makes sense that Cegorach too would take on aspects of the Dark Prince during his performances. He's the one who would have taught them how to do so.
>>96524602lock in place is a strong phrase that i have seen few minis actually achieve. probly doesn't help im trying to assemble them all with a bandaged index finger
>>96524547Note that all of this is random internet people's baseless speculation and is not corroborated by anything that could be construed as evidence.
>>96524620>speculationIt's not speculation if there's evidence to support it. It's called deductive reasoning.
>>96524581>So you think every single model needs nuln oil over every inch of it?Pretty reductionist and retarded to assume that. No. But every material should be shaded in some way. If the only way you are capable of shading things is dousing them in wash, then yes that is your only option. Also that's not how white ink or shading works, but you've already admitted to being a hypocrite last thread, so I don't really expect you to provide your real opinion on anything. I wouldn't be surprised if those are so.eone else's minis you saved
whose more likely to come back first, yriel or karandras
say my marines always have their company paint pattern on their left kneeif the model has a design that obfuscates the kneepad or doesn't have a distinct kneepad should I paint it on the right knee or just leave it off
>>96524574>>96524575>>96524581>one minute apartWew lad
>>96524629Yriel. Karandras isn't getting a new mini until the next PL refresh in 20 years
>>96524626When did I become a hypocrite?
WIP. No his hair won't be so orange, the wash is still wet and I haven't applied any highlights
>>96524634>two are 4 seconds apart(you) were close!
>>96524629the rumors are a pirate themed campaign for the end of the edition, so yriel
>>96524576I imagine this guy just saying "Why I ought'aaaa," as he shakes his power fist.
>>96524634Lol
>>96524636>>96522096 while not having a battle ready army yourself
>>96524613>The most elite of Cegorach's followers like to disguise themselves as SlaaneshYou say that as if it wasn't a grim duty nobody wants to actually cover.They don't like it, they have to do it, it's not a privilege, it's not a desire, it's not even a disguise, it's a mask for a theatrical role.Cegorach never did this shit.
>>96524610Dumb fucker in /wip/ claimed nowhere around him had sand. Anons gave him dozens of options for free sand. He had a literal meltdown, flipped out that people were going to call the cops on him for collecting sand at a park. Whined about the price of sand online for a few days. Then called a family member to literally mail him a jar of sand from the beach. He's also that guy whose been painting those 10 Roman legionaire themed guardsmen for the past 5-10 years now I can't keep track of when he started
>No TQFine, I'll do it myself. What armies are you always happy to play against? Assume they're painted.
>>96524629rumors point to yriel.
>>96524562Probably
cant wait for the end of edition campaigns narrative to be such fucking rancid ass
Was trying to see how I could make the warsuit into a proper "light" dreadnought and I wanted to post about how much I fucking hate the primaris marines and how sad I am that most people love eating garbage..That's all, carry on.
>>96524645>admitting to samefaggingMaybe not to the extent the other anon thought, but still pretty cringe.
>>96524517No, the real repurposed models are the corsairs who were supposed to be ynnari troops.
>>96524650>You say that as if it wasn't a grim duty nobody wants to actually cover.It's a vital duty for their performances of the Fall of the Eldar. It's the pinnacle of what a Harlequin can achieve, to don Slaanesh's mask even if it will slowly corrupt them from the inside out.>They don't like it, they have to do it, it's not a privilege, it's not a desire, it's not even a disguise, it's a mask for a theatrical role.It's the highest role in the Troupe. So important, in fact, that Solitaires bow to no one but Cegorach himself. >Cegorach never did this shit.Who do you think taught Solitaires to dance like Slaanesh? Do you really think the God of Masques has never worn the mask he hands to his greatest actors and actresses?
>>96524636When you posted these in the same thread
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96524633moving things to the other side is what happens in most cases, like terminators' crux
>>96524641>>96524645(He) was right
>>96524651Thanks.How does he compare to what we usually deal with?
>>96524638once you add a yellow like that it's already unsalvageable.
>>96524649Gosh, do the rules say you need your entire army drowned in nuln, or that models should be shaded? My models have shading anon.You may have higher standards than me, I just have tournament minimum standards. Yknow, the ones that matter.>>96524666It's not samefagging dumbass, it's called a conversation.
>>96524687I’m only asking because he doesn’t sound like a troll, just someone who isn’t the brightest bulb and we got some laughs out of his own expense.Did he at least learn from his shit?
>>96524703where's the shading? Can you post a pic where it's actually visible?
>>96524674Oh I see the problem. The white here is paint, I hope that clears things up for you.
>Warhammer 40,000>The Emperor fights with a sword>No armies signature melee weapon is a warhammerWho's responsible for this?
>>96524547Troupe Masters and Great Harlequins are already the avatars of Cegorach. They literally used to be called avatars.
>>96524687He's just lazy. He doesn't really sperg out at all, but he will find a new excuse as to why he needs to wait another 5-8 weeks to start the next step in painting every single time he posts. No joke it's been more than half a decade of him trying to finish the same 10 dudes, and just coming up with another excuse everything he finishes a half step. I think his most recent excuse for why his models were still only basecoated was because he's "working" on developing a /diy/ wash recipe for/grog/ as though there aren't 10000 wash recipes out there. I think he's been doing that for almost 2 months now
>>96524670>It's the pinnacle of what a Harlequin can achieveno, it isn't >It's the highest role in the Troupeno, it isn't>Who do you think taught Solitaires to dance like Slaanesh?they don't, they dance like eldar representing slaanesh>he hands to his greatest actors and actresses?they aren't his greatest followers
>>96524703>Gosh, do the rules say you need your entire army drowned in nuln, or that models should be shadedIf that's the only way you know how to paint shading then yeah I guess>My models have shading anonYour main basecoat(white) is absolutely flat and anyone with half a brain could accuse you of not having a battle ready army. I really don't understand why you're trying to convince anyone otherwise when that's the established rule.
>>96524712>No armies signature melee weapon is a warhammersons of horus had itiron hands have it
>>96524703Is the shading in the room with you or are you gonna tell us all that it's invisible because it's so good again lmfao
>>96524710Yeah you need to shade your basecoat painted models or they aren't battle ready, sorry those are the rules that you apparently care so much about say
>>96524703Nobody is calling you out on how you paint, that's your business. The problem is you're trying to twist what "battle reeady" is.
>>96524371How is the current state of the Imperium Robote's fault?
>>96524703>Yknow, the ones that matter.Yikes, should we tell him?
>>96524728nta, noob here but gonna make a white base color SoB army soon/ in process of. what would be a way to do so?
>>96524714I’m gonna be honest with you anon.The way you worded it makes me think he isn’t that bad just funny to look at. I’ll take a lot of him over the usual trolls we get here. If you’re description of him is accurate.
>>96524703You can't just claim to be this white knight standing up for those with painted armies and then deflect when people point out that your army isn't painted. Surely you're more aware than this
>>96524741airbrush an offwhite, highlight to pure white on the edges/raised areasshade with an acrylic wash in the recesses or enamel panel liner
>>96524741Gray seer is good if you want a neutral grey shade, Apothecary White for a cold blue shade
>>96524741rattlecan white and a white shadow contrast paint (the AK quickgen one is quite nice).
>>96524760guessing white scar can i picked up is a little much for it?
Such shading and what skillAlso even the helmets have cat ears, what the fuck
>>96524744No he's not bad, I never said that. I said he's lazy and is stupid for stressing about acquiring sand.>>96524741Fast noob friendly white would go as follows>spray medium grey colour >zenithal spray white from the top>shade soulblight grey>drybrush white>Pick out remaining detailsThis is all it takes to MOG the catsloppers army with almost no effort required provided you paint and shade the rest of the details
>>96524764I haven't used GW sprays in forever but I assume they're fine.
ELDAR ARE A PROUD AND NOBLE RACETHEY ARE NOT LEWD
>>96524765We know decalfag we were there and saw it too. Post your timestamps
>>96524772im just trying to learn the hobby in general. anything better then the cat caller is goal
>another thread personalityWe really are spoiled this year
>>96524777proud of their lewdness
>>96524777Then why are even their ears erogenous?!
>>96524765Yeah retard, they're cat-tle sisters
>>96524794Those are not cows you mongoloid
>>96524794If they were sisters of cattle they'd have fat tits, big asses, udders, floppy ears and hooves and I would like them
>>96524794I don't see no udders or cow print
>>96524803isnt that just tau gooners dreams?
>>96524777They're so lewd they broke the galaxy
>>96524788I wish it was another good modelposter instead...
>>96524812I'd post mine but im doing HH right now
>>96524810Maybe
>>96524777>Trips wasted on a lie
>>96524800>>96524803>>96524804Sisters of Nyattle then
>>96524811When are they gonna break the internet like Kim Kardashian did, I want an yvraineXguilleman sex tape pronto
>>96524812The good ones don't feel the need to compensate by shitting up threads.
>>96524793This would mindbreak the modern /tg/ user if it occurred today
>>96524832No human being will ever be willing to say that out loud so that's out too
what the fuck was her problem?
>>96524835fair enough
>>96524845She was too righteous.
>>96524845All she knows what to do is yap.
>>96524842You'd have a bunch of people crying about coomer bait ruining the setting while drowning in elf ear porn.
elf
>>96524856Wait.The Grey Knight codex says that Grey Knights make use of daemonhosts, and they even sacrifice human souls to daemons in exchange for True Names.What are they mad at her for?
>>96524873It's okay when they do it
>>96524873And the police sometimes anti material rifles, that doesn't mean the parking enforcement can just because they're both government entities
>>96524879Inquisitors outrank Grey Knights, for Emperor's sake!
>>96524873https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy
>>96524887Where is her arm and why is there an influx of pretty bad smut in this thread
>>96524892Don't be ableist
>>96524843TBF I say it.
>>96524897Post the actual hot one where her dick is out
>>96524873And the Emperor sold humanity to Chaos in exchange for godlike power to create the Primarchs. Yes, everyone in the Imperium is either a massive hypocrite or dead. Congratulations for discovering that the entire thing is a flaming tire fire of increasingly Bigger Batmen all saying "The difference is, I know I'm right" before being murdered by Bigger-er Batman because they're the only ones allowed to break the rules.
>>96524897The corrupted futa version of this piece is great
>>96524899I don't want to get banned again.
>>96524879>The Imperium are batshit hypocrites example no.40001how could this happen >>96524903we have no idea what the terms of the emperor's bargain was, could've been his soul or w/e
>>96524875The truest answer>>96524883In public with back-up maybe.
>>96524892This isn't smit and she lost it when she was a repentia.No idea why she doesn't have a replacement here
>>96524892you don't belong here invader
>>96524909>we have no idea what the terms of the emperor's bargain was, could've been his soul or w/eUltimately the specific terms of the pact aren't really relevant because Chaos knew he would never uphold his end of the bargain. They just wanted to use the power of the 5th to corrupt him as a poison pill by forcing him to overdraw power from Chaos until even his invincible willpower shattered and he got corrupted by it.
>>96524930Just post good art, I never said we all need to behave like this is church
>>96524931yeah it was a crooked contract, I'm just disputing that he deliberately sold humanity off
>>96524935>AI slopI wish this was a reportable offense. It would be good for the posters to get some time off.
>>96524952Post something better looking that was drawn by a person then
>>96524952I once used AI to generate a set of images with Yvraine getting tentacle raped into a Slaaneshi slut. AI is a dangerous tool.
>>96524956anything drawn by the person that AI stole the style of would look better by default because it wouldn't be full of mushy details and nonsensical mistakes and geometry
>>96524962s-share?
only in 40kg can you find slop enthusiasts. Ah, I should clarify, AI Slop.
>>96524981nope, they're just breaking out of their literal containment general that also exists on /tg/
So, the lessons I'm taking to heart from practice matches so far.Really need to watch out for opponents rapid ingressing on my home objective, coming in 9" away, marching up and shredding my home unit is painful, and makes it almost pointless to leave a unit home at all.2+, 4++ on 10 T3 models is still fairly weak and they can still be chewed through in a single turn when exposed.Retributors are the single strongest thing I can use, and I may have to consider dumping a battle sister squad (2 in the list) for a second set of retributors as the 8 melta shots are basically all I've got for dealing with high toughness problems.
So, as I understand it:>The Chaos Gods scattering the Primarchs was the Emperor's plan all along>Half the Primarchs falling to Chaos was the Emperor's plan all along>The Horus Heresy was the Emperor's plan all along>The Emperor ending up on the Golden Throne was the Emperor's plan all along>The Eye of Terror splitting the Galaxy in half was the Emperor's plan all alongSo basically he's omniscient.
>>96524956
>>96524970Nah, they aren't good quality. Scrapped most of them. Just something I did off hand.
>>96524988>The Chaos Gods scattering the Primarchs was the Emperor's plan all alongno he wanted to raise them on earth under his control>Half the Primarchs falling to Chaos was the Emperor's plan all alongno, he expected that some of his sons would betray him (probably the likes of Angron) but he didn't expect the extent of it >The Horus Heresy was the Emperor's plan all alongSee above>The Emperor ending up on the Golden Throne was the Emperor's plan all alongno Magnus was going to sit on the golden throne >The Eye of Terror splitting the Galaxy in half was the Emperor's plan all alongIdk on this one
>>96524994There is an amazonian goddess that goes to my gym.She isn't as exaggerated as this picture but jesusgodalmighty my queen
>>96524988Who drew that face?
>>96524988Basically either the Emperor had perfect prescience of everything that would happen and therefore it was his plan for the Imperium to fucking collapse and everything to be doomed all along, or he didn't have perfect prescience, got surprised again and again when shit went sideways and bumbled his way to the current predicament with him stuck on the Golden Throne and the Imperium collapsing on all sides to unstoppable enemies. People want to pick and choose, have their cake and eat it too. Even BL can't agree which interpretation of the Emperor is the correct one because in one book that the Emperor throws a temper tantrum over Magnus blowing up the Webway, in another HH novel the Emperor stalemates with Malcador in chess and says creating an eternal stalemate with Chaos was always the plan.
>>96525024Doesn't the emperor state he doesn't have perfect prescience.Something along the lines of taking a custodes into a mindscape and showing them an ocean and saying 'this is the future. We can see where we want to go, but we can't see the currents of what lurks under the water. So I just do my best to travel towards the result I want."
>>96525007are you fit? Maybe you have a chance. I know I don’t. I’m a manlet.Just don’t let find out you’re a warhammer nerd early on.
>>96525024>in another HH novel the Emperor stalemates with Malcador in chess and says creating an eternal stalemate with Chaos was always the plan.God that's so retarded, Chaos getting 9 space marine legions, numerous Titan and Knight legions, and god knows how many army and auxilia regiments, is the entire fucking reason it's so powerful now. Stalemating Chaos by giving them half his fucking military is so goddamn idiotic I refuse to take it seriously.
>>96525007went to a tabletop con a couple weeks ago that had a weirdly high amount of fighting and horror game cosplayers and there was a shredded chick cosplaying pyramid head and I full-on walked into the guy in front of me I was staring at her abs so hard
why are outriders so expensive
>>96525035Even to this day fans are arguing that the Emperor just made that shit up to satisfy Ra. The unfortunate truth is that if we accept that the Emperor's foresight is so limited that he was constantly being caught off-guard by critical events like Magnus shattering the Webway, it makes him look like a giant retard who dragged humanity along on his big fancy space empire just to trip over the finish line and let Chaos get 9 immortal Legions of supersoldiers, 6 Daemon Primarchs, and uncountable billions of worshipers because he made the boneheaded decision to step away from the Great Crusade and hand Chaos the keys to the car rather than watching over it personally until it was done.
>Tzeentch and Emperor fans explaining how them losing is actually a 200iq play and they totally meant to do that.
>>96525036Yes, but bald>>96525042Good con then
>>96525079give me an honest good faith reason the emperor should have seen that shit coming without 'muh foresight' when all of the chaos gods were working together to keep the heresy as secret as possible
>>96525091I don't have one, the fact of the matter is that the Emperor isn't a god (yet) and he made entirely human mistakes. But some people can't accept that he genuinely screwed up and make every excuse imaginable to defend him.
>>96525079>it makes him look like a giant retard who dragged humanity along on his big fancy space empire just to trip over the finish line Yes that is exactly who the Emperor is, the Imperium is one of the many bad guys in 40k. It's just that they happen to be the protagonist bad guys.
>lorefags
>>96525083>but baldWhy should that stop you?
>>96525047Because Marine players will buy anything.
Rough riders were cool and I would like them back
>the story based on Paradise Lost with bits stolen from Dune has an element of tragedy in it Say it ain't so anons
Lorefags are almost as bad as paintfags.
>>96525124Paradise Lost is such a terrible thing to compare 40k to. They have almost nothing in common.
I know I'm not the best painter but I'm trying really hard at this guy and having a really fun time. I've never done anything this big before and now I want to paint an abominant when I'm done.
Drukhari? More like, Gayhari!
>>96525143He looks good so far anon, good job
>>96525147Based
>>96524576These guys are coming out nice anon
Deldar wouldn't treat a demographic prone to suicide very well.
anyone got that meme with all the funny perturabo faces
>>96525114They exist in two different flavours
>>96525134What’s with the recent uptick in anti-painter sentimentality here? It confuses me because complaining about miniature painters here is like going to a forest and whining that there are trees.
nevermind found it
>>96525047Starter set stuff starts out at a discount and gets more expensive the longer they print it. One day they'll be charging the same price for infernus marines that they do for hellblasters
>>96525103I didn't max charismaI spec'd int for my career and luck for good managers, so I'm stuck with awkward socially
>>96525174It's either the same or a couple salty secondaries being mad for being called out as lorefags. Modelposting is unironically the best part of this general and only nomodel tourists will disagree
Chaos Sisters are unlikely but possible
>>96525174It's people running out of bait as the thread gets used to recognizing their shitposting
>>96525174Painters aren't paintfags anon. Paintfags are people who don't play the game and only care about painting at all, and then act superior to people who don't care about the hobby.They're like gamefags or lorefags.
>>96525194(You)
>>96525187I agree that modelposting is the best part of this general, but also can easily lead to the worst part.
>>96525188GW wouldnt do it, it would sell too many models
>>96525194Sounds like you need to paint your models.
>>96525207He'd need to actually own some to do that anon
>>96525207I have more painted models than you.
>>96525203If GW wants to really expand their market presence...
>>96525203Sisters aren't popular enough to make two armies successful
>>96525212Then post them instead of talking shit.
>>96525202>but also can easily lead to the worst partHow so?
>>96525173No they got pushed to legends in 8th
>>96525219sloppers and painting secondaries
>>96525180I know that feel anon except I seem maxed in luck and low in intelligence.
>>96525217Here.
>>96525229I kneel
>>96525229>AoS>no timestampheh
>>96525224>painting secondariesI thought secondaries we’re those who didn’t take part in the miniature part of the hobby like how skateboard posers did everything but the skateboarding.Are you thinking of “tourists?” Admittedly I don’t know what that means if it isn’t trend chasing and then leaving when the trend dies down.
>>96525234Thanks king. We're all just fans of the hobby.>>96525235They're in boxes right now, not all on the one shelf. It's more impressive when they're lined up like this. I've been actually playing with them.
>>96525244I picked this up here, it's people that don't paint but watch hobby videos and then give worthless advice
>>96524712The Emperor helped vulkan make his second hammer
>>96525229Embarrassing
>>96525229Not yours
>>96525252Okay thanks!
>>96525229If thats actually you ghoulanon, why are you posting your own images with 4chan filenames and why are you defending lorefags and greytiders
>>96525147Speaking about Drukhari.Does anyone else think that ABDL would be widespread in their community since they crave tender loving care, and it would be up their alley cause of the mommy+daddy angle?
>>96525247Cool, this is my army. It's also in boxes right now though
>>96525229Is there literally any reason to have this much battleline chaff?
>>96525259Eldar can't wear diapers because Eldar don't poop or pee.
>>96525254Yes, I post on Reddit too. Because I'm not an autist who rees about different posting locations.>>96525256They are mine, but thanks.>>96525258That's how I have em most recently on mobile. I'll send a picture of what's left on the shelf when I'm home from dinner.>>96525263I wanted them to build the meta-battalion from the old FEC army book. Needed 11 total units.
>>96525263NTA but in previous editions of aos I think courts were a summon heavy army. or maybe im thinking of one of the chaos factions. idk.
>>96525244You'd be surprised how many people here parrot painting knowledge they've heard online and can't back it up. It's how we ended up with the drybrush professor
>>96525259Statistically you’d probably have a higher chance of getting a dark eldar gf because they’re deviant and so more likely to be into humans and higher likely to want a cuddle pet after they spend a long day of gladiator games and torturing other hapless slaves. Not that I’d want to be in a predicament of being a dark eldar girl’s comfort pet as I might get killed by another dark eldar to spite her. It ain’t worth it.
>>96525263>Why is there an army in your wargame army
>>96525272Why are you here stirring shit if you don't even own 40k minis? Fuck off back to /aosg/ or better yet, reddit
>>96525265They poop out scentless analbead shaped crystals
>>96525275I get what you mean. I’d rather be a painting YouTuber shill than parroting info that has no basing to it.
>>96525282Yeah so it ain't poop.
>>96525272Im gonna go take a shit anon.Might take ten minutes. If I don’t see a pic of your army with a time stamp when I’m done with my shit I’m accepting your concession and capitulation.
>>96525289>>96525265Yes, they do. The captured Dark Eldar character in the Silent Hunters is given a poop bucket by the Space Sharks. It overflows and spills.
>>96525285It's easy to do even if you're not trying to. Like most of us have seen videos on nmm, and think we understand the process, but have never tried it, or we have tried it and something went wrong, but we wrongly assume we know exactly what went wrong. I've caught myself tonnes of times about to say something and stopping myself when I realize it's not something I've done with the specific product being discussed or the exact same technique and therefore don't really have a place to chime in
>>96525150Thanks, anon. I appreciate it. :)
>>96525302>Another Marine chapter obsessed with poopHm...
>>96525143Looks great anon. The red splash colour is really tastefully applied. I like the way you used it as the main focus on some details and as a subtle detail on others.
>>96525295Here's what's not packed up to be played with.
>>96524956I drew a sissy of battle
>>96525330Strongest Emperor's Child
>>96525321Careful dude, they will probably start stalking you via Reddit now and trying to slander or defame you. There are some crazy, lifeless people in this general.
>>96525321>back from shit>he actually posted Nice I knew one day someone was gonna beat me at these challenges. Didnt know it would be so soon though.
>>96525336Such is life. I usually just use the Reddit to post bad wow takes for rage engagement and make fun of people who can't read 40k rules correctly.>>96525342I'm in the process of painting up a votann army as well, but it's all still in the "finish building and get sprayed" stage. I was working on some studs for a while but found their gameplay too boring to keep interest in the project.
>>96525334In contrast, the weakest Salamander
>>96525350i don't think that was painted in contrast paints
>>96525321Yeah ok.You're still a faggot but at least you paint your models.
>>96525343Good luck on the votann army!
>>96525375Post shelf
>>96525343>Such is life. I usually just use the Reddit to post bad wow takes for rage engagement and make fun of people who can't read 40k rules correctly.Fair point. Honestly I am unsure why I bother coming back here myself, outside of leaks. 10e is miserable, the amount of insane posters trying to dox and hunt down anyone they consider a threat is higher than I have seen on 4chan outside of /b/ back in the doxxing days and honestly there is not much fun here. Everything has turned into people flinging feces and screaming angrily like a bunch of rabid chimps. Still, as someone who also plays the Courts I respect your force, it looks great. Nice work!
>>96525429Thanks nice anon! Once I have all the votann built and started getting painted I'll start posting them here. No real reason to post sprayed plastic right?
>>96525403I don't photograph my models that way but I already posted some earlier.>>96524576>>96524582Pic related Death Guard I've also posted before.
>>96525441Gyat dayum. Those are beautiful. Needs some basing tho. And a shelf.
>>96525443Shit wrong picture, they are based.
>>96525448Not sure I ever posted these.
>>96525448Gorgeous. Still needs a shelf. But otherwise it's amazing. I tip my hat to you.
>>96525448>>96525456said it before but i think these are the best contrast painted models i've seen
>>96525480I'm painting my Word Bearers with the same techniques, and it basically boils down to staying in the lines and using one shade over the entire model to tie everything together.The key is to balance input against output. My models aren't the best, but the happiness I feel compared to the effort I put in keeps myself going.
Just finished my first game with the new votann codex. Opponent brought Iron Warriors with a vehicle heavy list so I was a bit worried I'd have a tough time scratching his armor and that I'd lose my landfort early if I wasn't careful.So, we started and he got 1st turn. Not a whole lot happened, he moved up and did some actions but I was well hidden. He did take out a single bike, too.During my turn, however, I scooted my landfort out of it's hidey home to have it and 2 thunderkyn units shoot his possessed brick because I knew it was a major threat. However, he absolutely spiked his saves (made 5 5+s at one point) and I only ended up killing 2. I then had quite a bit of other shooting elsewhere on the board as he did push rather forward, doing decent damage to a vindicator and a venomcrawler.
>>96525499Round 2 came and he had quite the turn in both ways. His possessed pushed through steeljack overwatch and charged/killed my warriors, and he shot both of my bike units to death with his vindicator and venomcrawlers. His predator annihilator tried to kill my landfort as well but it made all of its saves like the good little tank it is.
Saw some anon talking a few threads back about other universes having their own warps, what's that all about?
>>96525510Universes or galaxies?
>>96525441Have you varnished them?
>>96525507And well, I had a turn after his. At this point thanks to the needguard enhancement and the memnyr I had enough YP to go into fortify takeover, so I switched over and started blasting what I could. I also dropped down my hearthguard, with 1 10-man and kahl and 1 5-man with e-champ dropping for some big deep strike charges. He placed a demon price on the table using rapid ingress and my land fortress decimated it immediately. However, my other shooting wasn't all that great. My kapricus managed to kill the vindicator but my thunderkyn and steeljacks were struggling with the possessed and the predator that was in melee range.And to top it all off, both of my hearthguard units failed their charges. This was quite a spectacle since we were Bloodthirsty on, meaning all charges were 3d6, but they still failed, lmao. My landfort then made a 16" charge into his forgefiend to get onto an objective. Many lols were had at this turn.
>>96525519Universes, he claimed Cawl's novel proved it but never provided the quote
>>96525526No, I don't really fuck with varnish.
>>96525537A matt varnish would do great, would tie everything up. Just get them Vallejo Polyurethane matt, water it up a bit and brush it.
>>96525533During round 3, I killed his warpsmith to an overwatch and he failed to do any decent damage to anything but himself, getting some seriously bad dark pact rolls and always seeming to do 3 dmg to himself in the process. He did kill one unit of thunderkyn with his possessed, and failed to do anything to the landfort in the center.And during my turn 3, it was brutal. He lost the predator, both venomcrawlers, all but 2 of his possessed, and the forgefiend to the dwarf shooting. By this point he only had 3 units left: the 2 possessed, a unit of cultists, and some havocs. He decided to full send and charge my brick of 10 HG with the havocs after shooting (since I was gonna charge them anyway) and try his best to keep his cultists away (my 5-man HG had failed yet another 3d6 charge to get to them, lol).But the writing was really on the wall so we kinda talked and mathed it out from here.
>>96525546And so, we ended the game with his possessed trying their best to take out the steeljacks. Unfortunately, the steeljack saves were just too good and they ended without so much as a scratch (aside from their leader. He got precisioned for some damage).
>>96525548Here's the final score. Not a very interesting battle report to type out but it was certainly a fun game. My opponent is a genuinely great friend and there were so many great moments during it for the both of us.Anyway, the new votann rules are extremely good. I had a ton of fun trying to play around YP to get into fortify takeover and once I was there a ton of options opened up to try and take out what was left. The army-wide bodyguard rule on infantry is much more impactful than I thought it would be, and rerolling 1s to hit on a lot of units js great for us. Thunderkyn are extremely good for their stripping cover, and the needguard stratagems are all very fun.Lastly, a tribute to hearthguard who I learned still have a decent place in the army, as they really are a great deep strike unit. Wherever they go once you're in FT makes them quite tough to shift and they'll at least trade nicely with most infantry objective-holders. The plasma with rapid fire is great.Overall though, I'm very happy with these rules. I think some points adjustments are needed (steeljacks are way too cheap) to fully balance them out but I had so much more fun playing with YP than JT.
Continuing to work on my first marines. Doing a different army is more of a challenge than I thought it would be, my whole process was tied to a single scheme.
>>96525571Cool, thanks for the writeup
What does 40kg think of killteam?
>>96525609I think it just makes me wish regular 40k had alternating activation even more.
>>96525612Give this or their apoc reboot from years ago that resolved casualties/damage at the end of the round
>>96524777>ELDAR ARE A PROUD AND NOBLE RACE
>>96525143Legitimately looks like dogshit. Indistinguishable from decalslopper
>>96525632(you)
don't reply to it
>>96525617A couple of dudes in the local group are experimenting with an alternating activation based on a reintroduced Initiative stat. Players take turns moving in ascending order, and then shooting and charging in descending order. In the case of equal initiative, players roll off and the winner decides if they want to activate first or second. It plays like a different game, and strangely the games tend to be faster. I'm a little concerned because it's a big enough improvement imo that I don't want to go back to standard 40k.If there is one wish I have for 11th edition, it's that 40k finally dips its toes out of the 1980s and adopts alternating activation.
I am giving serious thought to building a Biel Tan army. Tell me about building and playing Eldar, anons
Are anvil industry’s heavy weapons able to be fitted on 50mm bases? Or am I stuck having to base them on 60mm?
>>96525621Why does Gav Thorpe hate the Eldar so much? Why was he allowed to pen 90% of their novels despite obviously being shit at it? He has his name on one codex and it is, by far, the shittiest of the bunch in terms of lore. Yet, somehow, he's GW's "Eldar guy". Is it truly just nepotism?
>>96525711At first you will need to find Space marines player to serve him
>>96525726Nobody wants to write for the Eldar they want to write for the Space Marines so they can politcallly virtue signal most efficiently. This is what all GW writers want.
>>96525726>Is it truly just nepotism?It is and just bad luck really with the worst authors getting to write the stories for fans and basically not delivering on what fans want whenever.Not sure if there is a term for this but there should be. I can’t think of one.
>>96525711>Wanting to play as losers living in a broken down mobile home
>>96525768I think you've got that backward, wouldn't being an Eldar player be the signal to let Space Marine players know I will submit to them?
>>96524897Jesus, those are HUGE fleur-de-lis!
>>96525799But in order to ascend on the Path of Eldar player you must first learn how to kneel and beg properly
tonight making some bases by using a thin layer of modeling clay and then with a shit from off the ground outside
What was the chapter of the Marine that got killed by a genestealer with conventional sniper rifle.
>>96525837I don't have any experience with wargaming, Eldar would be the first army I ever played with. I assume that losing a bunch of games right from the start would teach me my place
>>96525844Brotip: green organic shit doesn't stay green for long after you rip it out of the ground
>>96525852Probably lamenters
i dont like GSC, them being related to the nids makes them really boring
>>96525881>I really hate there are factions that would fight against the Imperium>I could never hope to make any change all I apsire too is being a space marines cock sleeve, that's what it means to be born mortal in 40k.
>>96525887rent free
>>96525856It's not about wargamming
How do the power levels between Eldar and Dark Eldar units compare in the lore? Like how do Aspect Warriors compare to Wyches and Incubi, how does an Archon compare to Farseers and Autarchs?
>>96525091Well he must have known Chaos was on his ass, he either stole power from them or reneged on a deal he made with them.
>>96525302For all you know he did that to make them clean it up
>>96525891>No responseSeethe marinefag
>>96525726He had connections, I legitimately think he purposefully writes books for factions he hates, not just Eldar but also the DA and Sw
>>96525908Most Dark Eldar battleline troops are above guardians and maybe only slightly better than storm guardians because they see more active Combat. But aspect warriors are above them. The DE Lords are pretty close in power level to the Exarchs and Autarchs though with some rare exceptional few being almost as powerful as Phoenix Lords. Except Drazhar who actually is a Phoenix Lord.
>>96525908Well the Emperor learned swordplay from an autarch, not an archon so I guess there's your answer
>>96525908Incubi and Striking Scorpions are probably the easiest to compare. They had the same founder and an Incubi in training has to slay an Aspect Warrior as their final right of initiation. I would say they are roughly equivalent in skill. It's harder to draw comparison between Farseers and Archons because one has psyker abilities and the other doesn't. Autarchs would probably smoke your average Archon 1v1, but your average Archon would never be dumb enough to fight fair.
>>96525632Post your models faggot
>>96525927don't reply to your own shitty bait
>>96525726I don't think he hates them, that's a childish simplification.He tried to make them less noblebright, and isn't quite landing the execution. Humans are portrayed as stupid and pathetic all the time, it's not human hate, it's grimdark. Problem is it's humans abusing other humans vs humans abusing eldar. Should have more stories about deldar being awful to eldar, and eldar struggling against the flaws/excess that caused the fall and slaneesh in the first place. The craftworld way should be less successful in reigning in their self destructive base natures.
>>96525943>He tried to make them less noblebright>He tried to portray the racial supremecist genocidal cult of the god of murder as less noblebirghtAre you stupid?
>>96525943The problem is that no one wants to read about their faction being embarrassing jobbers in all their fights. Like, not even orkfags who pretend they don't care but got pissy when Ghaz got decapitated by Ragnar. Having three books that end with the same battle where a major craftworld gets stomped and have to beg their way out is just lame as fuck
>>96525943>Humans are portrayed as stupid and pathetic all the time,Like..?You just not making a good job Gavin.
>>96525946If you have an actual point to make, then make it. >>96525961Yes, hence the failed execution. He didn't set out deliberately to make the eldar jobbers, he did it accidentally by fucking up when trying to make them more challenged and decaying.Like I said there should be more about the eldar failing to overcome the flaws of their own base nature, which would be interesting, and less about them being kicked around by the empire or other enemies, which is dull.
>>96525982>If you have an actual point to make, then make it. A setting isn't made more grimdark by making Hitler into Skeletor
>>96525962Like almost every depiction of a civilian, and a big chunk of non-space-marines?If you conjure a mental image of the average underhive dweller, they're hardly going to be a paragon of human dignity.
>>96525943>Humans are portrayed as stupid and pathetic all the timeEldar are not human. They should not be written as human. They should be wizened, world weary, and cynical. But they should also be capable of heroic feats that capture a glimmer of past glories. The Path books were proof Gav has no idea how to write characters like that. I genuinely believe he doesn't understand what the appeal of elves is in general. It's telling that the codex he wrote had almost all of its fluff written from human perspective.
>>96525987What the fuck are you talking about
>>96525990I can't play "your average underhive dweller" that's not an army. The average imperium soldier isn't even a playable army. PDFs and random civies getting humilated makes perfect sense, they aren't a faction in 40k I am supposed to want to play as.
>>96525856>Eldar as a first armyNot a great idea.Eldar are hyper-fragile and rely on borderline cheating with several tricks that other factions don't have access to. On top of that it's likely to get you a bad reputation at your local store.
>>96525994>He made the genocidal lunatics incompetent morons to make them less noble brightThat's what you said. The more component bad guys are the more grimdark a setting is.
>>96525991Yeah then we're agreed, it's not deliberate maliciousness on his part but a failed execution. My point about humans was specifically that humans fail also, but they do it by failing *themselves* in falling to chaos and running a horrible ultra-oppressive regime etc. They do lose battles to aliens but that's not their tragedy, the human tragedy is they fail themselves. The Eldar should also fail themselves and become victims of their own nature. But in a way that's unique to them, not just copy pasting the human struggle against chaos. More Eldar should struggle to control their excessive senses, more eldar should fight to keep from falling off the craftworld paths.
GSC deserves a trilogy
>>96526011I also said that he fucked it up, that's my whole point.
>>96526005>don't do thing because it's hard>don't do thing because fat nerds might be upset about how game rules you didn't writePathetic
Played with a bad team and lost to Ultras tonight but still had fun. Man those oath of moment rerolls are brutal sometimes.
>>96526026>He made them retards on accident???
>>96526005Ok but is the Combat Patrol a good start? It looks like it skews pretty hard to Aspect Warriors, does that lock me into an Aspect Warriors-heavy army if I want to use them or something?
>>96526042lol I wouldn;t worry about a bad reputation for playing correctly, Knights are monopolizing all of that. The current Ældar patrol box is excellent. It's a big improvement over the previous set which was 6 jetbikes.
>>96526042>Melee wraithguardWhy is GW giving these to new players?
>>96526017funny thing is that path of the dark eldar, the vastly superior eldar trilogy, has a farseer fall to tzeentch corruption
Wonder why this >>96524919 post was deleted while this >>96524864 remains
>>96526027>Says the cunt who didn't get invited back for DoW4
The death korps are kinda a meme desu. Visually, they're excellent. Thematically, same. But in terms of actual effectiveness on the battlefield they're not all that great. They use outdated WW1 tactics which haven't proved all that efficient even in the sieges they were specifically designed for (Vraks itself being a chief example) and they tend to lose more often than not.
>>96526034Post timestamps or stop posting pics of other people's minis
>>96526017The problem with this is that just because the setting is Grimdark, doesn't mean it has to be misery porn. It's about highs and lows. Ultimately, the problem with Eldar is that they haven't been allowed any highs. When they win, which is rare indeed, it always seems to be a feel-bad pyrrhic victory. Thorpe is seemingly convinced that the Eldar have to always be on the backfoot and taking L's because they're "the dying race". Worse, he makes those L's truly humiliating. Every faction deserves a handful of moments in the lore that they can be proud of.
>>96526056>Wanting be in DoW3+ game
>>96526034i see you included some dice in the photo this time, well done! next time add more dice, a tape measure and maybe some mission cards and you might convince a few people that you actually play the game
>>96526064The Wolves are mine you dolt
>>96526076post timestamp or fuck off
>>96526022as npcs
>>96526034Why did you say lost to ultras like you have the means to play with anyone besides the people unfortunate enough to live with you
>>96526035Ok I'll try to simplify for you.He tried to make them a tragic, declining force. This was to fit the grimdark setting, and mirror Tolkien's elves declining and going into the afterlife. This is not a bad premise. He did this by having them lose a lot of material stuff, get kicked around in battles and humiliated. This was a very bad execution of a perfectly fine premise. The Eldar's struggles should be against their own nature, the nature that caused the birth of slaneesh and the death of their empire, set against a backdrop of space war. Not just a simple "they lose many space war how sad" which is what gav did.He didn't do it because he "hates elves", that's just an idiotic and childish rationalisation. He did it because it's a simple way to achieve what he wanted, which was a species in decline. He wanted decline, and to him decline=losing fights.
>>96526078Nobodies a playable character in a book
>>96526076No they aren't, they're your brothers just like all the other models you post
>>96526081What does this have to do with Warhammer you retard?
>>96526066thorpe is weirdly incapable of hyping up eldar; he once wrote a short story hyping up the banshees, but it came at the expense of making jobbers out of the dire avengers and fire dragons
>>96526083>This was to fit the grimdark setting,It is not grimdark to have evil be incompetent.
>>96526085Ok I am just going to ignore you and continue to post my models.
>>96526074Imagine being his mom and seeing him carrying his space man toys into the kitchen again to take pictures of himself pretending to play with others lmao
>>96526086>>96526095post a timestamp or fuck off
>>96526100This is grade A spamming at its finest
>>96526095You can post whatever you want, it's not going to make people believe you own them though
>>96526083See, I also used to think Gav was just bad at writing, but we have evidence from his buddy Andy Law that he loves dwarves and hates WHF elves, so I think he just hates the Eldar.
>>96526095You are fully incapable of ignoring anyone, which is why people fuck with you
>>96526034>losing to someone running eliminators and a phobos libembarrassing
>>96526103and pieces of paper with numbers on them will?
>Gav
>>96526034>He's still posting other people's models despite being btfo
The only novel by Thorpe that consistently gets talked about with praise is his Luther novel, which makes sense because people hate his DA novels, so of course he'd be good at writing the opposition to the DA.
>>96526109It was a 1k game and I admit I did my troop placement poorly to begin but he was using Las Fusil with those eliminators and chipping my Knight away for two turns before I even got a shot off.
>>96526114>There was always this idea that the craft world that wanted to genocide humanity were the good guysYeah I'm sure that's a totally real thing that was happening.
>>96526112Yeah they'll make people believe they're yours, can't really fake a timestamp if it's posted quickly and there isn't too much time between the timestamp and the post time
>>96526116Where did this troll job come from that my models are not my own, get lost twerp.
>>96526114>"jaw-droppingly horrifying plans of the Harlequins"Tricking Slaanesh into destroying itself? Helping resurrect Guilliman? What is he even talking about?
>>96526120statistically, the damage las fusils do is 2 damage per activation, and that's if they are using OOM, if they aren't the damage is 0
>>96526129Getting removed from the game
>>96526127I'll get lost when you can provide any evidence that they're your models
>>96526127so, no timestamps?Guess we confirmed what everybody knew all along and you're nothing but a nomodels
>>96526092My god man. I am not gav. I am explaining gavs intentions, not defending or supporting them. Good lord.>>96526104"I hate X" is not how a large corporation like GW makes its decisions. It's simplistic thinking. Besides which here's a direct quote from him>I think that the theme of the eldar being a spent force, a declining civilisation, requires that there is no hope but oblivion. As Elves in Space they cannot possess the means to recreate the glories of old, but must stand by and watch ‘lesser’ races inevitably consume their former domains. He tries to do decline but he has no nuance and botched it.
>>96526138Even if that were true which of course its not, how would that improve upon the behavior Ive already seen here and ridicule ive received when you people did think they were “my” models. You’re are prick regardless it seems!
>>96526142>I am explaining gavs intentionsSorry I guess it wasn't clear. NOBODY thinks it is is grimdark to have genocidal aliens be incompetent. If anyone tells you that genocidal people being incompetent clowns is more grimdark, they are lying.
Is it insane to think about running 3 land forts competitively? They just seem like the best unit in the book.
>>96526147It won't improve anythingBut if you're adamant on proving that you don't even own models it's only going to get worse for you from here on out, the false notion that you owned models and played was the only thing anybody gave you credit for
>>96526152just run all the shit that shits out 3 damage and you'll be fine
>>96526127We all should've known long ago that he was a nomodels. To think we were all playing the part of Buster in this /40kg/ production of Arthur: Buster the Myth Maker
>>96526154>It won't improve anythingExactly, fuck you hoe To be clear I would be willing to provide a timestamp if I could secure guarantees that I would he allowed on the fridge and monthly collage.
>>96526147It's literally the only thing you had here. Nobody likes your company, or likes your models, or your opinions, but at least you had models. But now we know better
>>96526164Admit you appreciate my models and allow me to partake in the fridge and monthly collage and I will post multipleTimestamps
>>96526162>>96526167lmao fuck off nomodels
If you don't stop fighting each other over this pointless bullshit I'll crawl through your monitor and mouthfuck the lot of you. Stop provoking, and stop replying to provocations.
>>96526169Do we have a deal? or now that ive called your bluff have you conceded?
>This pointless nonsense>Keeping non-40k players out of 40kg
>>96526167Why are you assuming any of us have the means to make the collageking or fridgeking do what we want. They made up their mind, it's them you have to convince, not the thread
>>96526176This really is some bay harbor slopper stuff, he baited them into nomodels accusations and tried to get himself into community events with the leverage of using a timestamp.
What does everyone think about the WTC ruling about objective timing?
How you like my terrain setup?
>>96526183you can stop pressuring them into kicking me off them you bastard>>96526185Dexter was a shit show and your a faggot
>>96526190Unironically very cute
>>96526190Honestly I am salivating at the gingerbread dawg
>>96526190>open ground floor windowsGood luck playing into anything that has a ranged weapons. If you pretend they're closed it's pretty perfect.
>>96526162That bridge burned long ago. If you and your feeders don't stop your masturbatory faggotry the few decent posters left won't capitulate with you, they will simply abandon /40kg/, and most of them already have. All you'll be left with is yourself and and the other permanently online nomodels scavenging (yous) from each other forever.>>96526190Jolly/10I would homebrew destructible terrain rules.
>>96526191We didn't do that though, they came to that decision themselves. Fridgeposter ignored you until you begged him for a chance and then he gave you ten chances that you fucked up and now he's ignoring you again. Collageposter was just ignoring you until you started claiming he said you were allowed at which point he clarified that you were not. Neither of those anons has posters telling them what to do, they did it of their own volition
>>96526202wtf kind of schizo response is this you dumb ape?>FeedersWtf is that?
Why does no one talk about the game on this game thread?
Why are some people against normal humans itt? You aren't a Space Marine you are normal human.
>>96526194Might be chocolate, the far right building is glossy af. The peppermint and candies look real too cause I doubt anyone could be assed painting dozens of spirals for a cute Christmas table
>>96526206because there is a group of weirdo obsessed with attacking me and my models and other model posters too.
>>96526213You're the only subhuman who insults any modelposters but yourself Not that you own any models LMAO
>>96526208Yeah I seen hundreds of normal humans every day. You know what I don't see every day? Extraordinary humans
>>96526218I dom you in model ownership bitch
>>96526206I don't really build or play lists "tactically" or whatever, I just run my favorite models and run them up the center, and whatever happens happens. I'm more about chasing cool cinematic moments and trying to make those happen before I get tabled
>>96526218Space Marines are extraordinary humans, they are mutants. Anything exceptional they achieved were made by gifts given to them by somebody else.You know what's really exceptional? Rising up despite your weaknesses and despite your circumstances to change the despite being born ordinary.
>>96526222I'm okay having less if it means my stuff looks better, also unsure of why you lashed out there
>>96526206There's not all that much to talk about game-wise units a new edition or codex just came out. It's lore and painting that have the most fruitful discussion topics. There was a decent Eldar lore discussion going until those retards started helping each other off again, and I've already posted my models today.
>>96526232uh oh here comes the insufferable imperial guardfag
>>96526236*jerking each other off, my apologies for the autocorrect.
>>96526234Wait I responded to the wrong person thats my bad sis
>>96526236What army do you play? What was your last game like?
>>96526240>Imperial Guardexist solely to suck off the Marines, and make them look better.
>>96526190I bought a pack of those mini christmas trees intending to do something with them like 5 years ago but they're still just sitting up the back on a shelf somewhere.
>>96526232>You know what's really exceptional? >Rising up despite your weaknesses and despite your circumstances to change the despite being born ordinary.Yeah society tries to tell me that bit daily as an explanation of why everything sucks. I'll take anything else thank you
>>96526254Society tells you the world is worse because people tried?
>>96526195Yeah when I made it I was told that was standard so I didn’t worry about having closed windows.
>>96526190>all edible terrainSo instead of playing for winner bottoms are you guys playing for loser has to eat the tables worth of terrain in one sitting
>>96526271The only side objective is sabotage terrain and when you complete it you eat the terrain.
>>96526246Necron, it went good. 2v2 with Eldar against a more experienced ec player teamed with an iw newbie.Lucius and a hellfiend forward deployed and were a real threat, but the fiend got shot to death by my canoptek stalker and my buddy's Falcon brightlance. Lucius took more shooting, but went down. My lychguard took the centre and held against some chaos marine charges by burning resurrections and the help of some banshees who charged, killed a lot of marines, then all died on the clapback. Reserve skorpekhs arrived in the enemy rear and killed a squad, distracted chaos from pushing on the centre as they spent a turn shooting at their own backline. We had the points lead by then and it was conceded.
>>96526284Wow fun looking game my dude
how many models do (You) currently have unpainted anon? 6 here for me, gorillaman and company heroes
>>96526295Yeah I'm blessed with a group of lads that do a once a month thing. Only had a single digit number of games since getting back into the hobby but I'm thinking of trying tournaments when my play gets faster. Remembering special rules and strategems is my Achilles heel.
>>96526305Oh me too dude I only just started playing last year but its been really fun so far.
What have y'all worked on tonight?
>>96526327Nothing sadly
>>96526327Gluing base extenders onto more of my eldar
>>96526327Been trying my hand at black templars last night. Did a drybrush and contrast for a weathered look which is new for me, as I always just did layer, highlight and wash. The initial drybrush was too heavy, but I'm still pleased with the technique and will continue to practice.
>>96525881Peter Griffon was in the right here he was just expressing his opinion on a film. He wasn't asking for a unique army other people like to be removed from a game other people play
>>96526327got most of his basecoats and washes doneneed to finish the axe and paint in his eye and figure out what to do with his dickflap then it's onto highlighting and pinwashing to finish
Chaosing every faction that exists is cringe as fuck.
>>96526404What are you talking about?
>>96526327I havent painted all week cause im an autistic fuck and cant come up with and decide on good color schemes.
>>96526380Where did you get the bits for this conversion? I was gonna be laxy and just swap shoulder pads on the Iron Hands dude, but this looks good.
>>96526407Just in general
>>96526327Did some basecoats on my collage guy
>>96526419is a bit involved and pretty spendy if you don't have people you can trade some of these character bits forbody's the 2023 ETB termie sergeant, hands and claw and left mechadendrite come from primaris techmarine, servo harness on his back and chest icon come from a kataphron destroyer, right mechadendrite came from a guy's warpsmith, dickflap came from iron father feirros iirc, pauldron icon came from one of the vehicle techmarine pauldrons iirc, antennae from I think one of the phobos kits, cog trim from zinge industries and tubing on chest is just flexible coiled wire
>>96526404It's simple. The solution is to kill Chaos.
>>96526404>>96526428I don't think anybody is thinking about chaosing tyranids.
>>96526404Of course not. Last time they Chaosed a faction it ended up sucking.
Thoughts on the 2k Night army? Should I replace a Castellans for a Valiant?
>>96526472Post timestamp or kill yourself
>>96526477>>96526475Get help you freak
>>96526472Looks fine to me
>>96526327Finished the second Legion of The Damned marine.
>>96526477>Unsolicited politics
I was watching a video about how competitive players would know that you could miss timing on a stratagem from 8th, which had to be activated in the movement phase after advancing to allow you to charge with that same unit. I found this interesting since in my experience with games like Yugioh, people will defend the concept of missing timing as a font of skill expression.
>>96526482Ty king, gonna try this weekend to get revenge on ultras
>>96526489Post timestamp or fuck off
>>96526486Was that the "I'm not going to let you do that" one? Always fun to watch a pedantic grog catch a taste of his own medicine.
>>96526501yeah it was, good video.
>>96525188>thing, but chaoswhy are 40k chaos fags so boring and cringe?
>>96526500They are my models bitch, deal with it.
post some tau. they are the coolest guys
>>96526518U first nigo
>>96526518Really hope longstrike gets a model in 11th, I understand why he was cut (failcast) but hes just a hammerhead tank commander
>>96526477Why would you call her a whore. What the hell is wrong with you.
>>96526523For 90% of earths history she would be labeled a whore but I understand your hesitation for labels. Please honor her life in whatever way suits you anon.
>>96526484Excellent work, I look forward to seeing the whole squad.
>>96526327tonk
>>96526507Agreed. Chaos is cringe
>>96526527ChudStats
>>96526527Childish faux-mature edgy teenager behaviour.
>>96526520only have my first squad of fire warrior assembled. will paint them in the next weeks>>96526522isnt he dead by now? short life and so on
Someone wanted tau
>>96526541>Diabetes
>>96526540The Tau have conquered several Imperial worlds. biorejuvenation shouldn't be beyond them.>>96526518If I ever got a Tau army I would want to do it in camo patterns, but it would take so much time and effort to paint every footslogger in such a pattern. How do modern wargame players cope.
>>96526541While this is cool, that is also the shortest thumb i have ever seen holy fuck
>>96526541Fat
>>96526544Nah, downs.
>>96526528Thanks anon, I really enjoy doing these.
>>96526541Is that the commander kit?
>>96526538I'm not left wing, and you're not genuinely right wing if you're disrespecting a murdered woman like that. Just being provocative as an act of fake rebellion and attention seeking. Edgy teenager "it's not a phase mom" type behaviour. Grow up.
>>96526563Yup. I love the kit, and I wish all crisis suits were that size.
>>96526564You’re trying to relate to a mongoloid chudscum. Just ignore and report his blatant chuddery.
>>96526566If it wasn't unreasonably expensive that's what I would do if I collected Tau.
>>96526544>>96526553>>96526554Post hands.
>>96526541Old/Obeast
I like trucks
>>96526578It looks very cute
>>96526576Downs
>>96526578vroom vroom
>>96526578Cool truck, anon
>>96526541great model. cant wait for mine.
>>96526472Knights always look so when in formation.
>>96526472Not yours/10
>>96526518Postan
>tfw bald and ugly so I will just look like a gross loser gooner if I'd buy Emp Children and Slaanesh daemon modelsIt's not fair bros
>>96526621>gross loser goonernever met a slaanesh player that wasnt one
>>96526621Lean into it, embrace it, become the fat bastard you were born to be
>>96526621Slaanesh players are mostly trannies so I'd say you being a bald and ugly guy goes against the stereotype.
>>96526634But then people will make fun of his thumbs.
So what is thisis it another camera/lens like some people paint it or just something to be metallic like how GW paints it?
>>96526050You can build them ranged if you want, no? Combat Patrols are meant to be balanced against each other for Combat Pateol games. I think all of them have some melee.
>>96526654Headlamp maybe?
>>96526122>the craft world that wanted to genocide humanityYou mean..?
>>96525990>Like almost every depiction of a civilian, and a big chunk of non-space-marines?Like Caiphas Cain? Eisenhorn? Creed? Yarrick? Ibrahim Haunt? Like [insert_named_guard-or_inquisition_character_here]?
>>96526638Her should fear no man, not with great clobberin' fists such as those. Bro's got genetic hulk hands, if someone makes fun of him he can just slap them directly into the afterlife.
>>96526670It's been three hours, but those are heroes and represent like 0.00000...00001% of humanity.
>>96526327I've got some models waiting for me in the mail which I'm excited to paint this weekend
>>96526679>like 0.00000...00001% of humanity.And 99% of named characters.
Anyone got a pdf of the Votann codex? My local store is sold out and won't get more for a while.
>>96526690Good thing I wasn't talking about named characters then, huh. I was talking about how humanity, broadly, is depicted. And most humans live and act like servile peasant-cattle.
>>96526691ufile dot io slash psn8l0c2
New bread?
>>96526703Waiting for the timer so I can bake.
>>96526697>>96526679>All the eldar named characters are pathetic pussies>This is okay because all the unnamed red shirts in the Imperium are like thatHmm...
today I WILL basecoat my blightlord terminators
New>>96526715>>96526715>>96526715
>>96526709I was also saying all that in service of an argument that gav thorpe fucked up his writing. You're fighting shadows anon, control yourself.
>>96526042I'd frankly avoid this, dire avengers are basically the worst unit in the codex right now except the fliers
>>96526697>. I was talking about how humanity, broadly, is depicted.But that's quite false. Books (ie media which depicts humanity in 40k) doesn't focus on that, they are focused on named characters.
>>96526724No this is an argument that there is no anti-eldar bias.Litteraly only the Craftworld Eldar have this problem and you have to gual to claim it is an accident.>>96526658I guess GW does sell them as one kit, I guess. Anyway I don't know how rebuilding them will go over with your opponent in a combat patrol game since Wraithguards and Wraithblades are different datasheets with different point values. Anyway any new player is going to realize what a special princess wraith-anything but especially Wraithblades are, it's just not the type of unit I would be giving to a new player.
>>96526727I was specifically referring to humanity as a whole, to make the point that the species is depicted broadly as weak and servile. Which, yeah, it absolutely is. If there's a difference in how faction leaders and heroes are depicted, I was not addressing it.>>96526728Not an accident; incompetence. He tried to show them in decline, and to him decline = failure, so he wrote them failing a lot. I gave a direct quote on that from him as his intention, somewhere up there. It makes a lot more sense than "he hates eldar" which is playground level simplistic.
>>96526404Wrong, we needChaos eldarChaos orksChaos nidsChaos gscChaos votannChaos necronsChaos sistersChaos guardChaos custodesChaos tau
>>96526741>I was specifically referring to humanity as a wholeWhich is always presented via named characters.
>>96526741>He tried to show them in decline, and to him decline = failureThat sounds like anti-eldar bias. How come they didn't hire anybody who wanted to show any other faction in a state of constant failure? No other army has a deciated author who only wants to show them failing.
>>96526741>Not an accident; incompetence.Trying way too hard Gavin
Shan't be replying to a firehose of bait posts.
>>96524629Dark eldar did a ritual which stole karandras's soul. He already reincarnated as Drazhar.
>>96524703My only problem is the tracks really.
