Chaos Dwarf Supremacy Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>96532200>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread question:Do you believe the haters and doubters have expressed sufficient contrition over the success of the Helsmiths launch?
>TQDont really care Anyways, just got this in my feed, thots? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywc6oXKpJe0
>>96537731>contritionfuck you where did you even find this word
>>96537731Why do they keep picking bright ugly flame colors? Give this thing a deep red flame and it would look so much better.
One would think that GW would want the Warhammer Quest stuff available for as long as the whole game exists. Not just discontinue the previous version when a new one is coming out. Not like they're hurting for warehouse space. They seemingly can't keep enough of this shit in stock to sell it in general.
>>96537731desu don't care just wish the tome brought some more exciting stuff with it to look forward to future tomes for my other armies, shit be bleak. Maybe they'll do another SoG like update for Christmas.
>English, spanish and french HoH out of stockSeethe now, TOW faggots and retard grognards. AoS has chorfs, and people like it.
then the female ogor(ogres) wear 3 belly protectors?
>>96538033bro is NOT loquacious
>>96538033I know it from Binding of Isaac>>96538329Bereft of garrulity...
>>96538062I for one like the Grape Drank mancer >>96538243TWW secondaries can't stop losing...
>>96538243>>96538363stop fucking console warringI yell at the idiots in /wfg/ when they do it too
I still wish that they hadn't tried a subversive take on chorfs and just played them straightI really just wanted evil spiky dudes with horrible machines and guns
>>96538463There's nothing subversive they're literally the same
>>96538463I just wish they had more chains or skulls. I mean, as they are its pretty easy to stick that stuff onto them, but still
>>96537731>corroded dwarfen metalelf hands painted this
>>96538471The subversive thing is going from "festooned with spikes and horns and having vehicles literally named after daemons with chaos star spokes and then additional chaos stars that go over top of those chaos stars" to "these guys view themselves as orderly and untouched by chaos"They didn't need chaos undivided iconography exactly but they did need the same level of brutal diabolic symbologyAlso their tech is too smooth and neat for my tastes; the bull having zero visible worky bits is one of the biggest failures of design ever in my mind
>>96538463just buy the old ones then from a recaster, or print /buy prints from any number of the dozens of designers who have done the exact thing you're asking forin one of the community article interviews last week, they stated that part of the reason they didnt do it how you wanted it is because they had already done that with their previous line, as well as everyone else in the 3rd party market doing the exact same thing. it had been done to death. part of age of sigmar is creating a unique aesthetic that isnt just the same remade models from the old IPs, everything gets a new look. sometimes its more minor changes like soulblight or seraphon, sometimes its extreme like lumineth or kharadron, and sometimes its somwhere in the middle, which is where helsmiths ended up.
>>96537748TLDR: Adding comeback mechanics like underdog bonus and increasing RNG with stuff like twist cards makes it easier for newer players to win and feel less like they got bulldozed when they lose.
Anyone have links for the blacktalon episodes?
>>96538654>just buy the old ones then from a recaster, or print /buy prints from any number of the dozens of designers who have done the exact thing you're asking forI am doing that. The only actual HoH models I intend to buy are Hobgrots and Bull Centaurs.
>>96538417>stop fucking console warringOK but I better see your ass scolding the TWW faggots the next time they think they're "winning" and muckspread 20 "why did AOS flop" threads onto the catalog.
>>96538767Well actually I just hide those because they're a lost cause from the premise
>>96538243Chorf fan here, I like the WFB version better, but seriously, the AoS is not that different, and has a cool new unit in the form of a living furnace, something that the unreleased 6th Edition Chaos Dwarf Army Book was going to have. I’m just happy to see my little big hatters be given a chance, a REAL chance. I may not like how “modern” AoS is, but so what, it is a new modern setting, so I can be grumpy about how fem Chorfs are treated as equals instead of being harem slaves, or I can be happy to see the Chorfs live again, and even make a “Harridan” unit of all female Chorfs. I chose to be happy instead of grumpy.New BB ChorfsNew AoS ChorfsNew WFB/ToW Chorfs in probably 5 yearsPeople want Chaos VotannIt’s a fucking great time to be a Chaos Dwarf fan!
>>96538463Nigga the only "subversive" thing about them is the default colour sheme. They're predictably generic with bulltaurs and hobgrots
>>96538704Bump
Why the fuck are the HoH even listening to Archaon if they don't consider themselves chaos
>>96537731>tqSexcow>deformed manlet cow
>>96538836Maybe they vibe with his no gods politics. Or are opportunistically allied.Or simply fear him like everyone else in the setting and wouldn't want to get on his bad side
>>96538810I would definitely say pulling the "they don't think they worship chaos" card after four editions of being alluded to as "chaos-worshiping duardin" counts as subversion(As an aside, I don't get why everyone's okay with that kind of thing now when it usually gets mocked as poor writing and cliché)
gnome faction when
>>96538836>>96538850The actual answer is that the "HoH don't view themselves as chaos" thing was clearly written later on and they had no actual concrete plans for chaos duardin until relatively recently (which explains discrepancies like the art of Zharr Vyxa looking more like StD stylings than HoH)
>>96538851Lore like that doesn't realy come off in the visual design. You could say they consider themselves greenskins and that wouldn't metter if they still got the same aesthetic
>>96538852God I hope not. Nothing worse than a gn*me
>>96538848Are Lumineth secretly the EMOFA faction?
Ok, so which is it>Hashut is the eldest dwarf god that mastered shit other dwarf deities feared and got cast out because of it>Hashut is some 2nd rate dwarf god that seeths at his real place so he uses dark arts as a crutch to be more important that he is meant to be>Hashut isn't a dwarf, it was all a ruse by some hellspawn
>>96538863It does when it means they don't wear chaos stars or arrows or anything like that
>>96538882Two of these make literally zero sense when taking Fantasy into account and the other makes perfect sense when done so
>>96538882Second eldest by a short (pfft) time frame so his seethe fueled his ascension
>>96538882There will be no answer for ten years until some hack decides to canonize an even worse 4th option.
>>96538904Hashut never existed and it's all Wizard of Oz style smoke and mirrors?
>>96538913The real Hashut was the friends we enslaved along the way.
>>96538904Hashut is Vashtorr and we get Space Chorfs
>>96538851>Why would a factions self image ever be different from the sigger centric view of le evil chaos?Fantasy dworfs vs chorfs already did almost the same thing, thinking of eachother as oathbreakers and traitors.Its just a case of not directly copying homework with slightly different wording now.Hashut being a minor chaos god or demon was never outright stated, it has always been unreliable narrators, just like it is now.
>>96538848>no pockets or bags like gargants haveHaha so where would she put you if she was like capturing you alive and didn't want to carry you aha all she has is her undies LOL
>>96538936But... why is it okay here and mocked in 40k
>>96538957Because 40k is full of contrarian hobbylets with a rich headcanon based on nothing.
>>96538957Because chaos forces have to lean on the warp in some way and that kinda rapes you hard.
>>96538964facts, you can ruin 40k for a 40k fan by reading a book to them word for word
It's hard for me to criticize Helsmiths because looking at them I get this weird "the shapes are wrong" vibe that it's hard to articulate in a more detailed or informative.I felt the same way when looking at the Cities of Sigmar revamp: "The shapes are wrong". For CoS there's this 45 degree angle thing going on all over the place, and HoH have it with hexagonal motifs, and it's just wrong feeling.
>>9653895740k chaos is too homoerotic with all the Horus shit
>>96538972The problem with 40k lore arguments is that two people can be reading word-for-word quotes from two canon books that completely contradict each other and still both be right>It says here in the 6th edition codex that the Poopfarters NEVER use Gobbledygook Drives because they're profane!>Uh well here in the 4.75 edition codex it says that the Poopfarters use Gobblygook Drives all of the time!
>>96538985I'd disagree I think the real issue is that people form this idea of what 40k should be very fast, and when it gets challenged they assume its always new lore that shouldn't be canon
>>96538991>Lore when I got into the gameCanon>Lore from before or after I got into the gameSlop
>>96538991>I'd disagree I think the real issue is that people form this idea of what 40k should be very fastThis, and most 40k fags worship the Imperium and take their propaganda as fact.
>>96539030memes aside, I've had conversations with people who will say they got in with 4th edition 40k, and then shriek when I post excerpts from 4th edition
>>96539051>and most 40k fags worship the Imperium and take their propaganda as fact.I wouldn't say that, I don't think any 40kfag actually knows what an unreliable narrator is, its not just an excuse to discount any character statement. Unreliable narrators are very specific when we use the flaws of the narration (like someone whos never been outside describing the sky) to tell us more about the character in question
>>96539030This is modern fandom in a nutshell tbf. If Lord of the Rings released nowadays, the iconic "I am no man" scene would get a thousand woke youtuber reviews. Media consumption has changed.
>>96539055I think a lot of people miss the point that the expanse of the Imperium and it's inefficiency means that these "contradictory" lore points are part of the point.No one actually knows the full truth
>>96539066If gotrek and Felix dropped today people would call it the epitome of tie in fiction and that nothing that happens in it truly belongs in warhammer
>>96539068Yeah, like I'd agree a guardsmen doesn't know the ins and out of Mars better than Cawl, but if Cawl says something about Mars he's probably just right
Im the only one that think the 3 circle postules things in the Feculent Gnarlmaw ruin the model? I know the 3 circles is Nurgle symbol, but they look so out of place. Very artificial and not natural.
>>96539118i dont particularly like anything about the model except i guess the bells
>>96539122That tree is a mess, just like Papa Nurgle haha.
>>96539077Or the idea that no one knows the difference between myth and fiction.In The Infinite And The Divine there's a world where the Necrons come and kill Orks, the humans assume the Necrons are solved skills space marines.I like the idea that there's no actual Silver Skulls chapter, it's just a complete misunderstanding taken as truth
>>96539118Agreed, I think it’s just classical GW, overdoing themes, for the sake of themes, like skulls. I would love to see Nurgle get some man-eating trees, like take the one from Madagascar, it would use snake like vines to pull people into its “well like trunk”, and through crushing the victim, the blood of said victim and the trees natural liquid would merge, and the locals would drink it and get drunk, while having a gay ole time. It screams Nurgle, as it’s grotesque, yet kinda funny, and people are enjoying the pain and suffering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywc6oXKpJe0Guy who created spearhead talks about it. Surprised he only worked at GW for 7 months before bouncing
>>96538836He's their top customer.
>>96539284Correction, misheard. He worked there 7 years.
>>96538836Archaon has a huge fuckoff army.Tends to help to get people to listen to you.
>>96539284Really interesting video, thanks for the link.
>>96538243lbr 1/4th the sales are TOW players
>>96538787>grumpy about how fem Chorfs are treated as equals instead of being harem slaveswhere do lorelets get this shit? listening to sloptubers who haven't touched warhammer?
>>96539284Always like seeing behind the scenes stuff, will watch this later. Thanks.
>>96539284bullshit, Sam created Warcry. He's been interviewed in 2018 about it on their official podcast
>>96538882the white dwarf presented his status as a ancestor god as an objective statement, rather than a belief, so I think it's fair to say he was onehim being the oldest one is highly suspicious as a statement, thoughit is very likely that he did have some form of primacy, perhaps he was indeed the first king, as in the role of rules maker and disputes arbiter, it would fit his eventual degeneration into a god of tyrannywhile the other ancestors were practically free agents that taught dwarfkind practical stuff like how to forge, how to fight, how to brew etcI don't remember where it was stated, but grugni and grimnir, and valaya too I guess, were twins, as in created together by the old ones, maybe the dispute of him being the eldest is an overreach coming from the possibility that he was also twin with them and born roughly at the same time
>>96539404
>>96539406>him being the oldest one is highly suspicious as a statement, thoughIsn't Grungi still around?Bold claim to make around someone who could easily disprove it.
What's the state of AoS right now? Would you consider it a decent game or do you play it only because your LGS is GW-centred like 80% of the stores? The last time I played AoS regularly was 2e. I found the 3e messy, inconsistent and unfun. I always hated endless spells, free faction terrain and free summoning.I know AoS is still played in my area by a decent number of people and I simply can't get the HoH army box out of my head. I'm tempted to let FOMO take over but after years of playing alternative wargames I know there is a lot of other good stuff I could get for 120 eurobucks instead.
>>96539445the other dwarfs don't even acknowledge the existence of hashut as a matter of principle in the first place, there's no discussion being held around the veracity of the claims.
>>96539454I recommend you buy it if you like the models and just play the spearhead game mode (the army box doubles as the HoH spearhead). It's cheaper, faster and arguably more fun than 2k point games.
>>96539445Why would i trust Grungi's word over Hashut's word when they both have reasons to lie about this?
Post D(n)udes, show me what you've been working on lately anons.
>>96539546Too lazy to get a new photo, but>Ogor tiem
>>96539584Looking good anon.I've actually got a few boxes of Ogors sitting around I keep meaning to convert into Plague Ogors for 1st ed, really need to get around to that.
It was good.Wait... IT WAS GOOD?!I actually really liked episode one and can't wait for the next one. GW actually made a decent animation. Crazy times.
>>96539546finished these guys yesterday
>>96539160>Or the idea that no one knows the difference between myth and fiction.there is a very concerted effort in some places to spread the lie that the eldar don't know the difference between their gods fighting and when they fought the necrons. They do this so no one can know anything about the war in heven
>>96539604I like 'em! Hard to make such bright dinos work but this guy came out well
>>96539454I think if you hated endless spells it's not worth playing 4e right now. Honestly I think 4e started with a nice framework but IMO it has taken until very recent battletomes (kharadron, khorne, this one) for GW to actually have fun with it and give things a decent power level. So many of the early 4e tomes were literally just like the fucking holdover rules but actually somehow worse. Some armies got so fucked by the edition transfer like Sylvaneth who just completely changed to a way less interesting style of play. And endless spells are incredibly common, literally everyone is casting from a 'lore' of endless spells.I think this >>96539468 is a decent shout if you like the HoH box models. You can buy it, have a little painting/modelling project, have a decent game you can play with them that also doesn't take too long to play. I constantly think about getting the FEC box just for spearhead because I really like the army theme and some of the models but I don't want to paint 50+ ghouls.
>>96539605are you talking about someone in-setting, or some author's autism? and why is it thorpe?
This 1000 point Skaven list sound fun? Not meta, but fun. I love Moulder so wanted to bring a few of them cool beasties they made.x1 Krittok Foulbladex1 Brood Terrorx1 Unit of Rat Ogors (Reinforced= 6 models)x1 Unit of Clanrats x1 Unit of ClanratsTOTAL COST= 1000 POINTS
>>96539604I feel like nitpicking.Tailfeathers look a bit flat up close.
>>96539638Mostly, people in setting, like if an eldar mentions the war in heaven, and because they apparently don't know which one is which, we can never draw any conclusion.Although they do mention authors a lot, I've found that the more people argue metalore, which is when instead of talking about what's in the book they try to talk about why its written, the less people know about it. So these people write off any mention of the war(s) in heaven as dressing, just stuff written to sound cool, and therefore cannot ever form any kind of continuity. They do this with the missing primarchs aswell
>>965394544e seems soulless. I've only played a single intro game and it felt terribly abstract
>helsmiths is the first AoS box to sell out in yonksWhat does this mean for the future of AoS and TOW? Give me your hottest take, hotter than the daemonforge fires of Zharr-Naggrund.
>>96539691>What does this mean for the future of AoS and TOW? Give me your hottest take, hotter than the daemonforge fires of Zharr-Naggrund.Let's assume for the sake of it that what you said is entirely correct.I think this means whoever did the market research for chorfs is gonna get more projects greenlit and whoever's been running TOW where the boxes are regularly warming shelves is gonna get a pay cut.
>>96539604Absolutely gorgous, what did you use for the ground/grass?
>>96539614>>96539468Has Sand & Bone brought anything worthwhile to the table? I don't want to pay 50EUR for a big nothingburger.
>>96539691>Give me your hottest takeThey underprinted this set even more than previous boxes to fuel the FOMO further. GW is pushing the artificial scarcity to its limits for years now.
>>96539691People will bitchan moan that they couldn't buy it, GW will make more the next time and faggots will claim even more boxes selling slower than less boxes is a bad sign
>>96539707this, any new box is either underprinted or warming shelves. Gw is illegally lying on investment reports, and AOS is clearly hemorrhaging money
I have hope in an Order of the Fly emphasis for the new Maggotkin
>>96539691aos-fied fimir
>>96539704>Set sells outIt was underprinted!>Set doesn't sell outIt was overprinted!>It'sallsotiresome.jpg
>>96539725I woulnd't get myself too hyped up. Like we know at least one has a Fly on his shiled, but it could just be 1/10 random scribles on otherwise unrelated armor dudes.
>>96539701Sand and Bone is fine if you like the grim aesthetic and play loads of Spearhead, otherwise no.
>>96539728it's the only statements that are objectively correct, since we lack any sales data beyond whether the stocks meet the demands or not.
>>96539612Thanks anon, I feel like you can get away with these vibrant colors on lizards>>96539645Yeah I might've covered too much of the shading while smoothing out the transitions and the highlights are too muted. I'm going to be repainting the feathers on my first guy so maybe I'll go back to these as well.>>96539700Cheers, ground is picrel drybrushed with steel legion drab and screaming skull. Tufts are gamersgrass jungle XL.
>>96539742We have investment reports but as another anon pointed out, if they say anything favorable then GW is just lying despite that being highly illegal.Even if we did have sales figures though, people would invent imaginary goalposts to say any box is a failure
>>96539604looking absolutely clean brother>>96539691I'm surprised because the initial reaction to the reveal was quite mixed, even on other forums where people like to gush about literally anything gw shits out this. However at the same time 99% of people reacting to models won't buy them anyway, you just have to hook in the 1% that will, and I can see the HoH appealing to enough people to do that. But at the end of the day we can't know that much, it's all speculation. wouldn't read too much into it.
>>96539750>I'm surprised because the initial reaction to the reveal was quite mixed, even on other forums where people like to gush about literally anything gw shits out this.Even on other forums, I will say every model ever made by GW is total shit.
>>96539751>posting in other placesfaggot
Is GW going to squat DoK?
>>96539728Both can be correct. After the Boarding Action scam only an imbecile would believe GW is not underprinting limited boxes on purpose.
>>96539761Sadly i think the Fire Dragons are moving back to 40k...
When we gonna be able to buy stanalone units like x10dwarfs warriors for chaos dwarfs? I dont want to buy 2x army box i just want 1 copy
>>96539761temporarily out of stock means nothing but they will have to rebox them when the faction changes name
>>96539770like one month or two from now
>>96539772>but they will have to rebox them when the faction changes nameDOK is changing names?
>>96539772>>96539761i would rather have them as an normal dark elf faction than "vagene" club like its atm. so if they change the name of faction and introduce males to it i would be intrested in buying it.
>>96539770Buy from scalpers now, it's almost guaranteed to be cheaper than stand-alone boxes.
>>96539774They will have to when malerion and his gang take over
>>96539781>>96539777No way nuGW will mess around with the all-female faction.
>>96539781>implying umbraneth shadowkin won't be their own army book
>>96539761no longer available is squatting, temporarily unavailable is just that. GW run everything from just three relatively small factories
>>96539787I'm simply not going to believe gw will have 5 books for elves, 3 of which being dark elves
>>96539794>he said after GW droped another tech dwarf book
>>96539796it's not a tech dwarf bookthat'd be like calling stormcasts another chaos warriors book
>>96539799They kinda are. Or do you beleive Chaos Space Marines and Space Marines are totally unique factions in 40k?
>>96539802>They kinda are.But actually aren't.
>>96539770I think the cathay core stuff released liketwo months after the battalion? So probably something sinilar.
THE AGE OF CHAOS>WARS OF THE BROKEN PROMISE>The Zharrdron trade with any who offer wealth. Ogor tribes, isolated cities, even the most greed-stricken Kharadron — all are potential clients, for all are equally weak. Yet their odlest pact is with the swamp-dwelling Kruleboyz.>Kruleboyz make natural allies, both wicked and sly. In exchange for mire-dredged resources, the Hashutites supply the orruks with scrap iron and crude explosives. Both sides see themselves as getting the best of this deal, scorning the other as foolish. How conflicts begins is unknown, but orruk hearsay involves a joint raid on a karak, a drinking contest gone awry and a drunken oath to treat one another as true allies — a vile notion to Kruleboy and duardin alike. They also tell of a later weapons delivery ripped through by an arcane explosion, slaying both warlords who swore this heinous promise.>Both sides claim to have betrayed the other. War soon follows. While the duardin often triumph in open battle, the Kruleboyz know their domains and launch deadly ambushes and raids. In the vaults of the Scorched Sect lie slates recounting a grand battle at Ur-Zorn's gates — an uncahracteristically bold move from the slippery orruks that see many slain. Yet it allows a Kruleboy party to infiltrate the citadel through an age-old, well-hidden tunnel and directly threaten Hashut's black throne.>The hobgrots, distrusted pawns used by both sides, end the dispute by slaying the charismatic Killaboss who led the raid before performing rough diplomacy that lets the battered Kruleboyz save face and slink away. How the orruks first discovered the tunnels is never explained. With the hobgrots acting as go-betweens, trade resumes, but the orruks and duardin refuse to speak directly — allowing the hobgrots to skim their ‘incentive’ off the top.
>>96539808>UNEXPECTED BOONS>While siphoning spectral energies from the underworld of Aquaenos, Zharr Vyxa comes under attack from mercenary gargants hired by the dead sea-kings who have swum the Sea of Drowned Sorrows. Yet the Daemonsmiths tempt many of the brutes into switching sides with gifts of accursed armour. Incensed, the other gargants focus on pulling apart the turncoats — their brawls forming scrums that are easy to blast with daemonic artillery overcharged by Aquaenian soul-matter. Satisfied by their weapons' performance, the Vyxians are amused to find a few gargants have survived thanks to the hellforged plate and are eager for more. They also describe nearby Athanasia as being rich in plunder...THE AGE OF SIGMAR>RICH PICKINGS>Wary of the advancing hosts of Muspelzharr, the Ossiarchs of the Gilded Legion — infamous for coating their bones in molten gold — barricade several valleys with bones fused into the rock. Rather than indulge in protracted sieges, Muspelzharri sorcerers unleash their arsenals against the cliffs themselves, burying the fortifications and their Ossiarch garrison. The need to tunnel through resulting landslides does not dissuade the duardin — after all, it offers the chance to strip gilded bone and cracked soul-gems from the crushed Ossiarchs.>IMMOLATION>Warhosts of many ziggurats force entry into Ghyran, harvesting bountiful herds of graze-beasts and hacking down elder trees for prime cuttings of lumber, unceremoniously tossing the rest into the furnaces. Their acts rouse the wrath of the Evergreen Hunt, who pursue the duardin without mercy. Flame meets spear on many grounds, while one warhost, led by the brutal Zuldrakka the Hateful, sets course for the hunter-grounds of ancient Kurnotheal.
>>96539810>THE FIREHOLD FALLS>When Chaos ravaged the Parch, Grimnir's Firehold sealed its gates, the Fyreslayers choosing to defend their sacred ur-gold over mortal lives. The dishonour in this deed has long grieved the ruling lodge of Hermdar, who exemplify the nobility of Grimnir's children. In the Age of Sigmar, the Firehold serves as a staging point not only for fellow lodges such as the Vostarg but also for Kharadron fleets seeking to check the Skaven.>None of this moves the masters of the Forge Anathema. Long nursing bitterness over their abandonment, they intend to make the Firehold their first sacrifice in the Hour of Ruin. Urak Taar emerges from his tower at Mons Varga's pinnacle to marshal the Grand Forgehost. Mountains are torn down and blasted apart at a terrifying pace, their rubble used to lay angular highways extending from the Forge and cleave through the Adamantine Chain before the duardin's advance. The first sign the Firehold receives of the onslaught is a distant rumbling followed by acrid smoke smother the horizon.>The defences of Grimnir's Firehold are masterworks of magmic craft, rune-inlaid buttresses and burning death-fields All are broken by Hashutite artillery. While heroic sorties achieve great feats, the Helsmiths' advance never slackens. Only the final gates, wrought in Grimnir's visage, prove inviolate — until Taar activates the Dhum-Grong — a colossal cannon recovered from the catacombs of Ur-Zorn and repaired over centuries. The Dhum-Grong roars, and a crack forms in the gates — one smashed wide by a stampede of Bull Centaurs and automata. The Chaos Duardin spill into the Firehold to vent every spiteful impulse, defiling ancestor tombs, melting down icons and hurling Fyreslayers into flame-pits burning black. Smog visible from Vostargi Mont rises from the hold for days. Urak Taar, meanwhile, descends into the vaults of the Zharrgrim priests...
>>96539761GW will NTR you merging them with shadow elves.Incest is back on the menu.
>>96539804STD is just Stormcast and CoS smashed into 1 book and painted black
>>96539815>the Dhum-Grong
>>96539822The concept of Chaos Warriors is older than you and Stormcast combined.
>>96539817>implying it won't be a frenemies situation like moonclan and gitmob, or ironjaws and kruleboys, or belakor and archaon
>>96539833That doesn't mean anything. It's not a metter of seniority, it's a metter of samyness.If you're gonna cry about elf books, why are you so defensive about big armor dude books?
>>96539810>while one warhost, led by the brutal Zuldrakka the Hateful, sets course for the hunter-grounds of ancient Kurnotheal.this is the underworlds thingy right? spitewood?
>>96539761Why are Fire dragons there?
>>96539810>>Warhosts of many ziggurats force entry into Ghyran, harvesting bountiful herds of graze-beasts and hacking down elder trees for prime cuttings of lumber, unceremoniously tossing the rest into the furnaces. Their acts rouse the wrath of the Evergreen Hunt, who pursue the duardin without mercy. Flame meets spear on many grounds, while one warhost, led by the brutal Zuldrakka the Hateful, sets course for the hunter-grounds of ancient Kurnotheal.FURSHIT AELVES FUCK OFF OUTTA SPITEWOOD RRRREEEEEEE
>>96539808>suspicious explosion>suspicious tunnel>hobgrots benefitman, whoever wrote the chorf book knows what he's doing
>>96539851Yeah.
>>96539855They were added around February in a FAQ. Looks like the experiment didn' work out. Sad, i liked them more than bow snakes
>>96539822not at all
>>96539862>[...] Yet the Ur-Zorni also field swarms of hobgrots, often to finish off those trampled by the Bull Centaurs. Since the direst hour of the Wars of the Broken Promise, the elders of the Scorched Sect have kept secretive pacts with hobgrot ‘robba baronz’ — though to their flocks, they preach of how all outsiders must be crushed beneath Hashut's hoof.
>>96539879I'm all for independent Hobgrots but they're definitely modelled as slaves
>>96539810>the Vyxians are amused to find a few gargants have survived thanks to the hellforged plate and are eager for more.So we can add chorf siege giants as a possibly returning unit concept together with the lammasu.
>>96539881then use slittaz
>Go on bluesky>A fuck ton of people selling 2000 point Fyreslayer armies>Like dozens of themMan those guys have really been waiting for a none daiperbaby violent dorf option huh?
>>96539879got anything regarding their interactions with ghur during the age of myth? perhaps wars with drogrukhs?
>>96539882No. Buy warstompers.
>>96539886>go on bluesky
>>96539886>>Go on bluesky>>A fuck ton of people sellingHow dumb are the prices? do I have to make a fucking bluesky account to buy second hand shit with fairer pricing?
>>96539894too many trannies on x
Bros i need help with choosing color for the cloth and staff that would fit the armor. Can u recomend mesomething. I tried those so far. blue and purple is not shaded atm
>>96539886>Bluesky hates Fyreslayers More reason to like them
>>96539902Red looks the best with the armor colour
>>96539904>metal moustachegod they are just SO lame.
>>96539904i love dwarfs in fantasy but i dont want to collect diaper wearing naked dwarfs as a whole faction
>>96539905
>Within the horn-like hills of Korrok, east of Ghur's heartlands, glowers Ur-Zorn: Citadel of the Bull, stronhold of the fanatical Scorched Sect. It is said that Hashut dwelt here, teaching his followers to harness the stuff of Chaos. Twisted statues of those first disciples fill the ziggurat's shrine districts, rebuilt after the city was sundered long ago. Every edifice sports carvings and murals displaying the indignities the Father of Darkness suffered at the hands of the ancestor gods — and the wounds he inflicted in turn.>The zealous Ur-Zorni consider their traditions supreme. Their pale jade armour is crafted using techniques unchanged since the Age of Myth. Their archaic dialect is nigh-on impenetrable, and when they are not at war, they often wear highly ceremonial garb and elaborate headgear. It is in Ur-Zorn that the Bullfather's priests keep their most graven relics. Daemonsmiths from across the realms petition through gritted teeth to study within the cult's archives. in turn, they offer tribute of weapons and sacred war machines, soon to be unleashed upon the desolated plains of Korrok and the brutish orruks and ogors who dare well in the shadow of the duardin's citadel.>More Bull Centaurs are reared in Ur-Zorn than anywhere else, with many expectant Zharrdron mothers undertaking pilgrimage to Hashut's hallowed dwelling hoping to receive such a blessing. These mutants form the core of the ziggurat's fanatical warhosts, crushing enemies on the savannahs. Yet the Ur-Zorni also field swarms of hobgrots, often to finish off those trampled by the Bull Centaurs. Since the direst hour of the Wars of the Broken Promise, the elders of the Scorched Sect have kept secretive pacts with hobgrot ‘robba baronz’ — though to their flocks, they preach of how all outsiders must be crushed beneath Hashut's hoof.
>>96539914Newfag, every warhammer dwarf faction has metal beards
>>96539905if you combine both armour thru almost make a complete set
>>96539914>>96539915>Bluesky opinionsPosts disregarded
>>96539893those don't have chorf plate armors
>>96539905>Hashut related armies before: HoH>Rope bindings >Chains>Slavery >Glyphs on chainmail Helsmiths of Hashut:>they're not slavers, the Hobgrot kingdoms are bound by secretive pacts
>>96539929Theres no metal beard there its just a moustache. Like a fucking hipster dwarf.
>>96539946bro this is a game targeted at young adults, you want serious tones go play the old world with the other people born before 9/11 you old fuck.
>Protruding from the waves of the Sea of Drowned sorrows, Zharr Vyxa is a colossal dredge-rig lit by a corona of flames shot from its innumerable smoke-stacks and smelters. To the folk of the Prime Innerlands, it has become a place of infamy — an iron parasite in Shyish's corpse that is never sated no matter how greedily it feeds, and that dispatches warhosts of battle-hardened raiders across the Innerlands to plunder and reave.>While proficient in daemon-smithery, the Vyxian duardin are renowned for also using the souls of the dead in their industry. They have mastered the methods of breaking down entire underworlds by draining their magic, burning the spirits in giant arcane furnaces and ejecting those scraps of wailing soul-matter that remain as toxic, ectoplasmic run-off. Such was the fate of Aquaenos, an underworld of dead seafarers that lay beneath the waves, whose inhabitants — as well as the treasures of dead maritime kings — were wholesale consumed by Zharr Vyxa's iron tendrils.>Zharr Vyxa has come under siege from foes ranging from vengeful gheists to mercenary gargants. It defends itself with a hard-bitten garrison and its ability to crawl stilt-legged across the sea bed, as well as the insane menageries of daemonic vessels that emerge from its guts. Though Vyxian warhosts proudly bear the bloody red of their warrior calling, there is a great divergence of heraldry and tradition between crews. Provided they keep locating vulnerable underworlds for consumption, their peacockish captains are afforded degrees of independence almost unheard of in Hashut's empire.
>>96539948newfag
>>96539957This still looks bad. I realise you were 12 in 1992 and have nostalgia forcing you to give them a free pass and take shitting on them as a personal attack but these still look cringe. Its a moustache on the bottom rim of a helmet. Thats fucking stupid.
>>96539946It's pretty dumb to say these dudes wielding mining tools and being herded by a guy with a whip aren't slaves
>>96539966he does it for free
>>96539966That's exactly what is written in the battletome. Hobgrots are allies, not slaves
>>96539979>Contemptuous slaughter is an act of prayer to Hashut, and thus, Infernal Cohorts march to the dissonant striking of temple gongs. Borne by deafened and cackling hobgrots, these are relics of desecration rung by initiates of the Drazghar. Their sonic reverberations shatter earth and glass, including precious decanters of Aqua Ghyranis, making their use a favoured tactic when invading Sigmarite domains. Their holy sounding brings the realms closer to Hashut's desolate vision — a reality that can sap the courage of any foe. Wherever they go, the warriors of the Helsmiths are thus surrounded by ruin and wreckage. Little wonder that their souls have become so twisted and vile.
>>96539979>both ears are ruinednice detail
>>96539946Yes anon, GW is a huge, publicly traded company right now. They're not going to risk a PR disaster to appeal to some autists on a mongolian basket weaving forum that were probably not going to buy the minis anyway.
>>96539979Actually he's a highly skilled profesional who does it for considerable pay.
>>96540006>these evil dwarfs are slavers>PR disaster
>>96539979Why does he die after you use the gong tho?The guy in the mask just doesnt see very well and pulps him or what?
>>96540024AoS is an abstract board game, rules don't have to make sense
>>96540024It's just a token and removing it is an easy reminder of the token having been used.You could keep it and have it face backwards, I guess.
>>96540006They already released Chorf slave models
>>96539905>>96539924>bongs in manchester vs bongs in marbella
>>96539905why are they hunchbacked? Slittaboss just came out and he stands straight too
>>96540036how shameful of them to not keep them around
>>96540046that's what happens when you sit all day working a dead end job in an office cubicle for some hook nosed boss.
>Grifta slapped his palms together and rubbed. Night had Ghur in its claws, and the cold in the cave was penetrating. Hobgrots milled around, muttering. Their contacts were late. It didn't pay to keep the masters waiting.>Finally, they heard feet crunching through the snow outside. Other hobgrots entered the cave, clad as slitta-kompanies rather than wearing industrial scraps. The mobs eyes each other. Grifta's scowl fell on their boss, who soon snorted.>‘Oi, Grifta. Still bowin' to stunties?’>‘Zog you, Sliv,’ Grifta grunted. His former second-in-command laughed - just as he had when he'd forced Grifta to flee the kompany and seek sanctuary with the duardin.>‘Shut it, both o' ya.’>A stinking crocodilian titan slunk into the cave. Squinting, Grifta eyed up the rangy orruk riding the odorous beast. Behind his gated helm, Swampboss Skumdrekk sneered back.
>>96540054Well yeh, the Horns set should have stayed with how recent the kit is and with its aesthetic being way closer to the core faction than Warcry vampires were to Soulblight
>>96540046Its to show they are malnourished, treated worse and do a lot of menial work.Was in one of the design articles.
>>96540057>‘Wotcha, Grifta. You got my prize?’>Grifta waved several hobgrots forward, never looking away from the orruk. They passed cages filled with snapping oversized eels - natives to the Korrokian shallows - to Skumdrekk's lot.>‘So,’ Grifta said. ‘You lot'll watch da flankz for lightnin' ladz when da Dark Onez get here?’>‘So long as I ain't gotta talk to no stunty,’ Skumdrekk spat. He leant forwards, grinning. ‘Now. You got... da uvver fing?’>Grifta paused before slipping an amberbone charm from a pouch. He'd had to do a lot of dirty work for one of the duardin to acquire it. He weighed the thing before tossing it to Skumdrekk. The orruk caught it one-handed.>‘Fair's fair,’ Skumdrekk grunted before lashing out with his man-catcher. His weapon's spiked jaws seized Sliv around the arm, twisting until the bone snapped, before he hurled the wailing grot across the cave to lie shuddering at Grifta's feet.>‘Gitz, the lot of ya,’ Skumdrekk scoffed, turning away. Once he was gone, Grifta dared make a crass gesture before looking at the moaning, writhing Sliv. A grin crossed his face.>‘Trust me, old mate. You'z gonna wish that'd killed ya...’
>>96539966Is it me pr are these guys more obviously copy pasted than usual? Their poses make them look very samey imo.>>96540057>>96540061Alright this was pretty fun. Also>night had ghur in its clawsMaybe I'm reading too much into a throwaway line but I like the implication that ghurish dialects use more animalistic idioms like this. Neat bit of worldbuilding.
>>96540058>Warcry vampiresthat was some real monkey paw shitvampire samurai aren't even a bad idea for a bloodline, but it all got presented in such a disjointed way
>>96540072>Is it me pr are these guys more obviously copy pasted than usual? Their poses make them look very samey imo.As with most units of 20, I assume you only actually get 10 unique bodies, so literally half of them are the same guy possibly with different arms or heads.
>>96540072>Their poses make them look very samey imo.They're mostly repeated with just the command group being an alternative build of some other guys.
>>96539914How can someone be so wrong
Why would Chorfs give them robes to wear if they're fine with being nude normally?
>>96540100They come in 20er boxes?Thought they just filled the frame with a second box of 10.
>>96540119You might want to look at grot cock n`crack all day, I certainly dont.
So will KB or HoH get mounted Hobgrots?
>>96540144HoH have bull centaur as cavalry, they wouldn't get another cavalry unit, unless they made it a light ranged cavalry, but that's not the kind of gameplay the designers want from HoHso krules are more likely to get it, but will probably not get it either
>>96540148They got Hobgrots because Chorfs used to have Hobgrots But they won't get mounted Hobgrots because... Ummm... They just won't!
> Morgrabal touched his face. The intricate tattoos marking a Daemonsmith of the Forge Anathema had not been disturbed. Ritual power lay in them; they were blueprints to divinity, revealed by Hashut and bartered with souls. He had earned them. He had chosen to bear them. They were no mark of submission, no chain. Not like those the manling barbarians bore. Nothing like them.I love chaos so much
>>96539827https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WYUWnO_6rTs>the Dhum-Gongerer
>>96540153They won’t get them because that would be like giving DoK a siege cannon just because you can do it lore wise doesn’t mean you should do it game wise
>>96540153>They got Hobgrots because Chorfs used to have HobgrotsAnd because the army's gameplay benefits from having disposable chaff.Keep up.
>>96540158Calling it now, a petrified dude on a mechanical chair is going to be a pity hero next time around.
>>96540165Models come before rules, this has always been known
>>96538033school, maybe give it a try.
I think my KB color scheme shall be cobalt blue and black with yellow shields and blellow skin
>>96540182You're painting your greenskins yellow?
>>96540184Blellow, it's like a hybrid between blue and yellow
>>96540176It doesn't matter, hoh won't get a hobrgot cavalry unit.
>>96539955Are the Shyishian Idoneth enclaves still jobbers
>>96540199You will eat those words in 5 years
If the preorders for the Helsmiths army set are all sold out, will there still be some for sale after or I'm just fucked and have to wait for individual unit releases?
>>96540210we just dont know.
>>96540100I don't mind the crude, angular armour look on these guys (coz their armour is meant to look basic) but IMO it's pretty nonsensical on the regular chorf troops, who are meant to be elites with good gears
>>96540208All Idoneth are really
>>96540164They’re more likely to get robot demon cav if they’re not just going to do more bulls
>>96540209No, I won't, but you can start eating your words starting now.
>>96540219If you job so hard it somehow turns around and works out for you are you still a jobber?
>>96540218Yeah it's kinda weird coz with the horns of hashut, it seemed like we were potentially up for a style similar to the forgeworld one - the style on these guys is rather grittier and way less blocky feeling
>>96540231Lurien sucks so fucking much bro
would trench wire fit with smiths?
>>96540237Yeah they’d probably put it up to fuck with other Duardin and Skaven
>>96540240Imagine being the poor fucking steelhelm that has to charge Chorf Normandy
>>96540233HoH feels way more in line with the new stuff that Legion of A
>>96540237it's something that's perhaps a bit too modern looking, perhaps an equivalent made of fences of spiky chains will cover the same role while looking less anachronistic
>>96540210Could be that they restock it soon, sold out in like 5 min so surely gw has noticed the demand is higher than anticipated. That being said, you never know, I wouldn't get your hopes up too much.
>>96540245 Just coz they're painted burgundy doesn't make the models similar.There are not 'bent sheet metal' parts on HoH, no cog-tooth trim, no gems, no sashes, and the armour pieces are closer to LoA, because they adopt natural anatomical shapes no rigid geometric ones. Even the bull motifs are more realistic bulls rather than the more stylised representations in Helsmiths
Who should be the flagship faction of Aos?
>>96540266They won't. They'll just releas the same box without the book as a Spearhead
>>96540275its obviously seraphon or flesh eater courts
>>96540275Darkoath
Darkoath, more like SHART-OAF amirite?
>>96540276GW does sometime restock FOMO boxes that sell out too quickly, it happens. I wouldn't count on it though.
Does anyone specifically want the limited ed Battletome? I'm only wanting the models for kitbash purposes for TOW and don't need the book, so I'm wondering if there is much resale value
>>96540237>>96540240No, coz it will make it look like you're trying to play trench crusade rather than a fantasy game
>>96540275Golden demigod warriors riding dragons
>>96540333Only giga simps or pay piggies care about the limited edition battletome (they are out of date within 6 months).However, for my main army, I always get the Pay Pig edition
>>96540333There's little to no resale value
>>96540333Not with that ugly ass cover art.
>Most of the Zharrdron's ancestors lie beyond judgement. Their remains were consigned to the furnaces or else lie could in tombs so malice-filled that few dare enter. One endures, though, and his grip on power has never slackened. He is Urak Taar, the First Daemonsmith, and his venerability is matched only by his wickedness.>None are so learned in Hashut's arts as Urak Taar, for he is said to have studied under the Father of Darkness himself. Though he presides over the Forge Anathema, having lured(?) its hierarchs into the Bullfather's service, he claims to have aided Hashut in wrenching knowledge from the Realm of Chaos deep within the citadel of Ur-Zorn. If this is true, then Taar is one of the most ancient mortals alive. His sense of superiority certainly seems to have been honed over millennia: he refuses to look upon hobgrots, let alone accept their service. The horns crowning his brow are hailed as signs of favour, and thousands have fallen to his conjured fires and crafted weapons. Once, Taar possessed acolytes charged solely with tallying such atrocities committed by his creations. Now, if he indulged in such a recounting, the list would perhaps never end.
>>96540400another anon said there's a part where it suggests dude is after godhood
>>96540406>Taar knows that if he is to slip Hashut's shackles, he must follow in his steps. He must attain godhood. Such an appallingly arrogant conceit is but one more step in the long procession he has walked. His warhosts are a testament to his pride, replete with wealthy clans and promising sorcerers he has bound into eternals terms of service. He commands the finest war engines, many of which were salvaged from the bowels of Ur-Zorn through Taar's ancient influence with the priesthood before being repaired and filled with hate. Taar sees the Hour of Ruin and the chance for conquest it offers as a call to truly commence his self-deifying mission. He led the despoiling of Grimnir's Firehold, yet his true goal was to plunder the Fyreslayers' vaults. Within, he has discovered something that has piqued his fascination.
>>96540168Hopefully an Ashen Elder rather than a Daemonsmith. There ought to be a mounted version of the Ashen Elder.
>>96540423ok, so that tracks
>>96540431The one in the short story was a wizard, I think.
>>96540431Did they change the lore re the curse of stone?Previously it crept upwards from the feer onwards (hence Astrogoths mecha-legs) and spread, whereas the Ashen elder just has patches on his face
>‘The False Ancestors — Hashut's feckless kin — betrayed us. Blinkered Valaya, false-tongued Grungni, coal-brained Grimnir, maudlin Gazul; the whimpering tallier of grudges, the ever-absent wanderer and skulking mistress of the caves — none demonstrated the lordship that we are owed. They rose against their rightful elder, sought to shame him and forget him. When ruin came, they were too weak to stand in our defence. We reject them utterly. Those who still cling to these false deities, we deliver up to Hashut's burning justice with relish.>In place of these failed deities, we shall craft our own divinity. Hashut is our lord and master, and to him we pay all tribute. But our ancestors left legacies of glory and acquisition. On these, we build with each act of will. So why should the worthiest of us not set our sights upon the highest throne — to become the first of a new pantheon formed under Hashut's burning gaze? Impossibility is a word of the weak. Even a mountain can be torn down by those with spirit enough to break one stone at a time.’
>>96540275Idk, whatever sells? They screwed themselves over by making half the factions emotionless robots
>>96540423Feels like what it means to be a God in AoS is not that significant compared to WFB, like every elf slut and the steed she rode in on is after godhood
>>96540456No way in fuck we’re not getting a dispossessed update
>>96540460You're thinking 40k, all aos factions have people with individuality and agency, even the undead.
>>96540474Being a god is more significant than it was in WFB which is why people strive for it. Every tom, dck, and harry who walked the path to glory inherently wanted to be gods
>>96540460what the fuck are you talking about?
>>96540483with chorfs now and fyreslayers getting a relaunch, it might be 5-8 years before aos gets a 4th dwarf faction.
>>96540474It is so significant for a mortal to attain godhood that the very notion is practically unthinkable to the average citizen, the nature of kragnos and the development with morathi were extremely significant.
>>96540483I'm thinking End of Edition drop for Nu-Dispossessed/Valaya's strongest simps. Probably merged with Fyreslayers, just judging from all the other rumors.
>>96540494>Every tom, dck, and harry who walked the path to glory inherently wanted to be godsI mean, re chaos, this was more about becoming immortal - i.e. a daemon prince, but then of course they don't make undivided daemon princes post Belakor so there was hardly a path to Godhood
>>96540236And that's why I love him
>>96539725goddamn, that's a pretty good example of one of the biggest problems third party miniatures often have; unmotivated detail.
>The Forge Anathema dominates much of Aqshy's Adamantine Chain — a monument to cruelty and grandeur, its armies filled with seemingly endless ranks of warriors and vast cohorts of daemon machines powered by all manner of esoteric fuels. It is formed of several ziggurats clustered around what was once Mons Varga, a volcano whose core burned so hot that Grimnir is said to have offered its embers to his brother Grungni to light his Chamonic forges. Now, its hollowed out corpse has been consecrated to Hashut, its firest turned to diabolic purposes. Malignant energy sees the skies shiver with slick, abnormal light while the acidic rivers that wind through the Chain are siphoned to cool its furnaces and spat back out as unnatural poison.>Though not the first ziggurat, the Forge Anathema eagerly accepted Hashut's offerings. Burning with greed, its overlords — led by Urak Taar, most ancient and malign of Daemonsmiths — reap bounties of smouldering realmstone and captured daemon-essences. They revel in demonstrating this wealth: a hundred ensorcelled cannons line every approach to the Forge, and beyond these lie rings of more monumental and murderous defences still.>Possessing thrall foundries not just in their native realm but across the realms, the warhosts of the Forge — their rich purple attire a deliberate scorning of Aqshy's crimson heritage — are convinced of their own power, beyond even other Hashutites. Their grinding phalanxes march against every enemy that lies in their grasp, determined to chastise them all: the Sigmarites to the west, the vermin of the Gnaw and, of course, other duardin who still squat amongst the Chain.
>>96540530what do you think is unmotivated there?
>>96540537So, are all sorcerers now just Daemonsmiths, and we've done away with the title of sorcerer-prophet? If so, kinda lame
>>96540537You would be faster by taking a photo of the page, man.
>>96540537>their rich purple attire a deliberate scorning of Aqshy's crimson heritageThe writer keeps telling us the colour schemes got switched out of sheer contrarianism.
>>96539926>>96539955>>96540537I've seen enough. Zharr Vyxa is clearly the ziggurat for the cool 'drons.
>>96539914It's based in reality
>>96540507>but then of course they don't make undivided daemon princes post Belakor NTA but aren’t Undivided DPs a thing in 40k and AoS
>>96540550>sorcerer-prophetEssentially what ashen elders are.
>>96540564dron is not identifying enough as a term now
>>96540574eh, it flips flops depending on the day, it's some real tug of war for one fluff writer that wants to force they idea they can't exist
>>96539365Plus in the context of the HoH in particular it's not even being "equals" as in "you are as good as the men"; it's more like "having a cunt doesn't spare you from owing debts too"
>>96540779but why would powerful dwarfs not own a harem in a cruel society built on indentured servitude, slavery, and the rejection of the familial values upheld by the inferior ancestor gods?it's ostentatious, it gives you higher chances of fathering holy bull centaurs or useful wizards, it creates beings that are under your control and in debt with you from the moment of birth.
>>96540815goon before posting Chorfs never had harems and never will outside of your pornsick brain
>>96540779I think it's implied as well that military service is valued higher than "civilian" labor in terms of settling debt and climbing the social hierarchy. And the war despot fluff states that they practically have no choice but to lead from the front, whether they like it or not, since the HoH cohorts would not tolerate a leader who only issues commands from the safety of a ziggurat, meaning that anyone who has the ambition to one day order armies around (and all the zharrdron do) will have to get out there.
>>96540819Anon, discussing social dynamics isn't a matter of porn addiction, you must have been traumatised by porn if you think that way.
>>96540815I think the closest the battletome gets to talking gender politics is a passing mention of mating contracts being negotiated between clans. Otherwise there's really nothing of substance there to have a discussion about.
>>96540871yes, but realistically we can presume a lot of things. it's obvious women would be relegated to breeding harems and probably forced to breed with bulltaurs
>>96540779>>96540819Harridan lore (Sorcerer Honorguard) heavily implied that femchorfs dont join military service until they hit menopause, if ever.Prized housewife princess to counter attrition and low birth rates.
>>96539546Finished Mathy the other week. Now I’ve got Dawnriders on my desk.
>>96540886They keep Bulltaurs in bloody murder pits for a reason.Nobody would survive the attempt.
>>96540892post it
>>96540886I actually don't think bull centaurs can father more bull centaurs, the lore presents them as coming from all other strata of society and the incidence being influenced by ghur enough to push many to travel there in the hope of mothering a bull centaur.but if a bull centaur could make a bull centaur then there would be no such migrations because anyone who wanted a bull centaur would seek a bull centaur instead.
>>96540537The wanderer is the white dwarf so who’s that NEET living in the caves
>>96540913chaos dwarf women would still have sex with them because they're worshipped and Chorf men can't compete with the BVLL, it's obvious if you read the lore man
>>96540918>The White Dwarf from White Dwarf
>>96540928It is an honor to sit in Hashut's Holy Cuck Throne
>>96540911>The Harridans are an elite unit of exclusively female Chaos Dwarf warriors who act as bodyguards for a Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer. They recruit almost exclusively from Chaos Dwarf women who have passed the age to bear children, for without this, their only value in their unforgiving society now lies as fanatical warriors in service to the priesthood of Hashut, the minor Chaos God of fire, greed and tyranny.From the Wulfric novel.Why are we debating a basic dwarf trope anyways?
>>96540946culture war reasons I presume
Probably a retarded question here. Champion means you get +1 attack but the few warscrolls I've looked at seem to not specify the champion. Or is it inherently implied to be the guy with the biggest hat in the squad? If so does that mean reinforcing gives me two champions?
>>96539118I'm getting a replacement for my initial one, just slap a mawpot down or something like it's one of those "plague cauldrons" nurgle is so fond of. They if I grab slimux I can just pick up the tree.
>>96540946>Wulfric novelThis is /aosg/?
>>96540953>If so does that mean reinforcing gives me two champions?No; there's only ever one champion in a squad. For banner bearers and musicians, there can be more if the keywords say "Musician (1/10)" or a similar fraction which tells you the ratio of those to normal models there should be
>>96540892>and low birth rates.aos has since retconned/developed the dwarf gender ratio: it was skewed like in fantasy up until the nagash's fuckup with the pyramid that caused magic to swell rampant in the realms, since then there have been more female birthswhich suggests that high ambient magic is a big determining factor in dwarfen births, either by being required in order to bring to term a female birth, or by affecting the sex of the dwarf to be born in a way potentially unrelated to chromosomes it may also suggest that the instinctive tendency of dwarfs to hoard gold might be explained by the fact gold is a natural repository for magic, and thus helping them maintain stable gender ratios (similar reason why dragons used to hoard gold, since the magic helped them stay awake after the old ones altered the world)it may also explain why the one single chaos dwarfen city of zharr naggrund might have been so populous, since the chaos dwarfs are the only dwarfs that surround themselves with and use magicand it also suggests that dwarfs may have been designed by the old ones as an anti-chaos mechanism, since chaos invasions cause high magic which cause female births which cause a swell in dwarfen populations, who are then thrown against chaos or magic resistanceand once chaos is pushed back so is the magic and so the dwarven populations decline without risking them growing unchecked and damaging other projects
>>96540928Sounds like an unfitting stretch in more than one way.
>>96540456> skulking mistress of the cavesWho
There’s 40k channels on YouTube that do shorts of various lore snippets. Do any of you anons have a decent enough voice and lore material to make the same? I reckon it’d be easy money at a minimum
>>96540946>Wulfric novel
>>96540988No, I'm not fluent in English and even if I were I abhor the idea of making YouTube videos, let alone shorts.
>>96540984sounds like a new previously unknown ancestral gal to add to the list of minor ancestors valaya had too many chodes around her, let's be real
>>96539546working on my converted maggotlord at the moment, probably like halfway done
>>96540456I vaguely recall reading a short story about Stormcast helping a group of dwarves banish a ghost(?) and them using the power of the dwarves god of the dead. Has that guy ever come up again
>>96540988I sound Slavic despite being hispanic whose only known English first and foremost.
>>96540968I don’t think this was true in third
>>96541026Nice, I use the framework giant as my RoR Mancrusher tbhon lovely kit
I'm directing this to /aosg/'s resident sylvaneth player(s): How do you actually feel about the prospect of Kurnothi aelves making up a larger portion of your army? Are you excited? Anxious? Reserved?
>>96541123I like Kurnothi models so i'd be fine with that tbdesu
>>96539982>>96539966They call them "vassals" and supposedly fight for the helsmiths because they give them slightly better weapons and armor. Between their peasant robes, cobbled together weapons and amor, and generally hunched over cowardly look, it's clear they're still supposed to be slaves, not mercenary allies the way the hobgrot slittaz look. They're just saying this because despite being an objectively evil faction, it's still too much of a no-no to have depicted slavery in your modern game.
>>96540988To be honest, I probably could, I have a pretty good reading voice. What I don't have is time to script and record videos.
>>96541123I've been fucking waiting for Kurnothi since 2019, they're the only reason I got into Sylvaneth originally. At this point the only thing that deters me is exhaustion paired with now having an entire tree/revenant army.
>>96540970Based overthinker>>96540988Aos has no secondaries, wait til some good vidya gets made to capitalize
>>96540988I thought about making an analog horror series about the bone tax and the whole process of making a Mortek, but i can't be bothered
What do we ACTUALLY know about Mosscairn beyond the name?
>>96540903Great blending on the tendrils
>>96540903She's looking pretty great anon!>>96541026Damn, I love this model. Nice job on the conversion! Looking forward to seeing him finished.
>>96541237https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/MosscairnMosscairn in Erosia is a region of rolling, mist-shrouded hills dotted with the graves of ancient heroes who fought to keep Chaos from overwhelming Ghyran.WeatherThe hills are cool and damp, with almost constant fog or drizzle.[2a]InhabitantsThe energies that swirl about Mosscairn can give life to the dead, and so numerous wights can be found in the region - much to the surprise of would-be grave robbers.[2a]
>>96539926At the risk of awakening the gooners itt, is there any more on the bull centaurs? Do the mothers survive the birthing process? I ask because I remember them dying in whfb, but it seems they've changed that as apparently pregnant chorfs undergo whole pilgrimages to improve their chances of their child being a bull centaur. Or maybe it's a religious self sacrifice kinda thing. Given the size discrepancy of the models I can't imagine it's a very comfortable ordeal, even more so than a normal birth already is.
I have 3 boxes of painbringers. Do I build 3 squads of painbringers or 2 painbringers and 1 twinsouls
>>96541237>What do we ACTUALLY know about Mosscairn beyond the name?It's going to be the setting of the Underworlds box after Spitewood. We know nothing more than that.
>>96541237Assuming the leaks are about it. It's Nurgle vs probably Kurnothi
>>96541287>Underworlds boxYou mean Warhammer quest
>>96541309>Warhammer questLiterally not a thing and will never be a thing.
>>96541289>It's Nurgle vs probably Kurnothi
>>96541289Nurgle Vs CoSMosscairn is probably just WHQuest
>>96541321Anon we're several WHQs inot AoS
>>96541321Just like Chorfs, huh?
>>96541289>NurgleAwesome. >vs probably KurnothiAwful.
>>96541354I hope it's more like ST or BSF where you have a motley crew of different factions and races to play as and not CC where it's all order lame-os. Would be fucking awesome to have an unlikely alliance of dudes across the GAs who all have a bone to pick with the Maggotkin.
>>96541321But we have an actual leak about it.
>>96541202That actually sounds really cool
>>96540886>it's obvious women would be relegated to breeding harems and probably forced to breed with bulltaursThis isn't the Skaven or your weird fanfiction.
>>96541321>He doesn't know
>>96540946>anon has been going off for years about how this whole harem thing is super important and pivotal chorf lore>some shitty BL novel no one read
Ok bros help me decide on colors on my first army
>>96541465Lighting's not the best for comparing color schemes but I think I like middle the most
>>96539810>led by the brutal Zuldrakka the Hateful, sets course for the hunter-grounds of ancient Kurnotheal.Gonna be real funny when some random human furry who wanders in on some CTE fueled visions and tinnitus and gets his ass kicked.
How should I highlight the brown staff and cloak to differentiate them since they're both the same brown? I'm thinking of doing the wood with something like karak stone, but I'm not certain on the cloak brown. I want to make it look like a ratty brown cloth.
>>96541465the red cloths is going to make the glowy green eyes and the verdigris on the armor contrast much better
>>96541497Gray lines on the staff probably
>>96541497The staff is arcane or necromantic.Just go nuts with jade green or something crazy.
Is there a way to do verdigris but like... blue?
>>96541393the wulfric novel is canon cope
>>96541601What, like the stuff in the cracks?
I think Chorfs look really strong but aesthetically I just can't get on board with any dwarf army ever. Not when Chaos Warriors exist. But I do know a lot of short fat guys with beards who love dwarfs for some reason.
>>96541601I've seen it done by basecoating the model in blue and then drybrushing the main metallic color over top. It won't let me post the image, but search "painting brass in 3 easy steps warhammer" into google images and look for the picture of the Juggernaut.
>>96541726I see Hobgrots being a real problem for STDs, at least in the first turn when Chorfs are powering up.
>>96539926>>96539955>>96540537What about Muspelzharr?
>>96541786How many times do I have to tell you I want to french kiss her and have her tusks draw blood from the roof of my mouth
>>96541443>>96541387>>96541352How does that leaker cock you're slurping on feel fags? Taste good?
>>96541601Pick a blue you like, apply it the same. Might not work as well since you brains won't go "hey, I recognise that" like they do when they see rust or verdigris, but that's how it goes when you push into fantasy territory.
>>96541808Pretty good, got me to buy into nurgle. Though still waiting on this fucker to get back to me on the christmas box for 175 bucks.
>>96541808It's yummy. Kept me from making doomed purchasing decisions on a few occasion. If wanting to be an informed consumer is sucking dick, then call me OP.
>>96541879>>96541837Faggots.
>>96541916https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgqiMzWqGec
>>96541736>>96541809Cool. I was wondering because I want to make my metal look cobalt-y. A dark blue basecoat and some metallic drybrush seems simple enough.
>>96541808are you angry about rumors being correct and reliable or about rumors being incorrect and unreliable?
>>96542052I think he's angry about being wrong.
>>96541601>>96541736 is exactly what I did for my boat. Slopped on a few different shades and drybrushed.
>>96542077Looks good!
this whitefang guy hasn't a clue, it was only ever a coincidence
>>96540456>the whimpering tallier of grudges
>>96541289It's COS vs Nurglewhe only know nurgle side
>>96541517>>96541579But what about the cloth?
>>96542283He dropped CoS too
>>96541289Wasn't it Nurgle vs CoS or am I mixing up rumours?
>>96542283>Refresh Putrid BlightkingsSay it ain't so.
can someone share Idoneth deepkin book?
>>96541601As long as your drybrushing is heavy enough you can just mix your favorite blue with some white paint and a tonne of water and then slap that over a dark brown basecoat. Then just drybrush your brass as normal
>>96542310https://files.catbox.moe/vqsi80.pdf
Which of the two Skaven Spearheads do you think is more fun?
>>96540903Lovely
>>96539639If you're looking for a low point Moulder army it seems ok but aren't Brood Terrors and Krittok kinda shit?
>>96542283Kurnothi become CoS subfaction?After Dawnbringers made a Kurnothi cult and the commander of the Ghyran crusade turned into a weird plant human hybrid I have a feeling Kurnothi could end up in CoS. Specially considering both other Selves and Dorfs are getting squated.
>>96542332New Kurnothi units!But they're CoS fuckers
>>96542332>Kurnothi become CoS subfaction?That'd be for the best. CoS needs some of the racial diversity and jolly cooperation that characterized the army prior to the revamp in 3e.
>>96542297That CoS is for the actual release not the WH quest
>>96542324The one made for the format rather than radnom leftover
>>96542339this would be the dream but it's not true
Does anyone even play Alarith Lumineth lists?All I ever see or hear about is Teclis, sentinels and kangaroos
>>96542283I'm really excited for Festus, they're saying he's big so I'm not sure if that means just a bunch of shit going on or big monster.If we get like a giant mobile hospital type situation with like maybe a giant leech with a whole clinic on his back and festus hanging on top that'd be fucking sick, little nurgling assistants!
>>96542374Here? Probably not. But I do hear that they're tanky as fuck and slap hard. Tradeoff being movement, of course.
>>96542376if the nurgle fanboy still sculpts at gw then I'm betting on him trying to do justice to the idea of a palanquin of nurgle, perhaps making it large enough for kugath to become a relatively trivial conversion
>>96542387I have faith, Nurgle has been getting great models for ages so honestly I'm excited. I've got my whole nurgle army scheme and theming down too so it's gonna be the tits.(also 2 GUO scans my friend "created" for me)
i got gifted the stormcast from skaventide and damm the new models look cool. This is probably one on my fav shields of any warhammer models
Newbie here, I just assembled the Tzeentch spearhead. Thinking of colouring them in a day/night theme with Tzaangors and Screamers in a night theme and Acolytes and Flamers in a day/sun theme. Now I'm just wondeirng if that's too ambitious for a beginner and kinda what to do with the magister.
>>96540456>Blinkered Valaya, false-tongued Grungni, coal-brained Grimnir, maudlin Gazul; the whimpering tallier of grudges, the ever-absent wanderer and skulking mistress of the cavesI wonder who the unnamed ancestor gods are. The absent wanderer is grombrindal probably, but the 'whimpering tallier of grudges' and 'skulking mistress of the caves' are interesting. Mistress of caves made me think of skavor, but that was a dude. The other ancestor gods were all mining/forge related, like smednir and stuff. Hopefully we find out some more about these new ones.
>>96542482Ah fuck ambition, go for it. Worst case scenario you can say you flew too close to the sun.
does anyone have the nighthaunt battletome?
>>96542399Side note to any anon's I got my idea for my nurgle I'll put it down here if anyone wants to give me any ideas or thinks it's neat:Three Winds Shipping Company, the basic idea is they go from port to port working as "scabs" after the initial work crew and stevedors get "sick" or leave the job. These guys show up and offer to work as cheap as possible, sometimes though extra cargo crates get mixed in with the stuff they load and the cities start noticing plagues spreading in town. Dockyard reeks of rotting fish and all the workers dress in heavy leathers with mysterious boxes shaking around and giggling with odd markings on them.Then once the job is done, they take the money and sail out to the next port. If anyone happens to catch on they've already set up shop and warriors and daemons start to exit the local storage houses to kill anyone trying to stop the operation or snitch on them.
>>96542483Yeah from what I can tell Tallier of Grudges and Skulking Mistress of Caves are both new gods. You could make an argument for Thorgrim becoming the Grudge God, though that's kinda boring. Mistress of Caves is probably pure AoS OC. Lot of Dwarf lore development in general though, with the Chorf battletome. It's very interesting.
>>96542489I wasn't even sure if it was a good idea, but welp. Guess I'll do it then. Might even try do both for the magister somehow.
>>96542077the top has more of a jade look, than rusted copper.
>>96542560>Thorgrimhe was no ancestor god there's no new ancestor gods
>>96542482sounds fun, i would just recommend that you have some third element in your paint scheme tying the day and night units together, like a third color that appears on both units, be it just a simple tassle or yellow moons or whatever. maybe make the magister a mix of the two schemes or split down the middle? day on one half and night on the other? idk what your colors are gonna be but this is kinda what i mean half and half
>>96542559Sounds pretty fun, and unique for a nurgle army, good shit anon. Don't see people work with trade companies and the like too much. Good idea.>>96542560>lot of dwarf lore development in generalYeah, the nice thing about a new faction dropping is that you get a ton of new fluff to work with. Overall I'm happy with the new stuff, seems pretty interesting. The tallier of grudges being a deified thorgrim is very possible, certainly where your mind goes. I'm kind of meh on that idea, though if gw HAS to bring back some characters to squeeze nostalgia out of, it being a deified ancestor is not the worst way to go about it I guess.
>>96539808>>96539810>>96539815>>96539926>>96539955>>96540456>>96540537Loving the lore dumps so far. Much easier than trying to squint at those book videos.I see other posts too, but I don't wanna make this comment any more obnoxiously big.
>>96542642Yeah Thorgrim is not a very exciting choice but like, God of Grudges sounds boring anyway, if they're going to bury the Runesmith/Engineer Gods for something that bland might as well collect +1 nostalgia points while they're at it.
>>96542632Yeah, some bits like the edges of the shields will probably be moon coloured for the tzaangors. And the others will likely have some yellow/white in them too. I first have to prime them anyway.
>>96542632>magister split down the middle
>>96542483It seem like tallier of grudges is going to be the psudo-Thorgrim or could just be Throgrim himself ascended to god of grudges.the mistress of caves sound completely new seem like a mining godin the past we had>Smedir the god of ore>Thungni the god of runsmith>Morgrim god of engineering>Skavor the forgotten one possibly the creator of skaven
>>96542482why would you make acolytes the sun guys when they've got moon masks?
Apparently the Infernal Razers wear their silly hats because they're lesser craftsmen trying to make a name for themselves. The guns they carry are things they made for their own use. The hats symbolize the anvils they toil at. So it's like all of them are walking around wearing a plain t-shirt with "Ask me about my gunsmith" printed on.
>>96542660>>96542793Hold on a secHashut, grungni, valaya, grimnir, gazul, tallier, wanderer, mistress.Makes for eight gods, and that one article explained that the ancestor gods divided the realms amongst themselves, hashut wanting aqshy and chamon but getting ghur instead. So maybe something like:Hashut - GhurGrungni - ChamonGrimnir - AqshyGazul - ShyishValaya - ghyran (?)That leaves azyr, hysh and ulgu for the other 3.
>>96542793>SkavorI'm like 70% sure he's an invention of the WHF RPG. I don't even remember him in Grudgelore, so I consider him non-canon.There's also Gazul, which supposedly was a thing in AoS too.
>>96542815>Azyr, no one, as Grombrindal just wanders and that frees up a slot>Hysh The Grudgekeeper>Ulgu The Mistress of CavesWorks pretty well...
>>96542825>There's also Gazul, which supposedly was a thing in AoS tooNew Chorf lore specifically name drops Gazul, so yeah he's in. It's the old gods of ore, runes, and engineers who got dropped or replaced.
>>96542806I like that. Means we get so see a bit more of your average Chorf, since the Cohorts are supposed to be from the royal clans of their native Ziggurat.If Helsmiths get more proper units eventually - I'd like to see more of the actual Chorfs.Even if something like a 11 man transport of a Lamassu is something I'd immediately like to have.
>>96542642I've got popsicle sticks for my dock bases! Gonna just have some little moss clumps from michaels for seaweed! My friends making me little shipping crates and I'll have my nurglings popping out of them, another buddy of mine at the painting club said to get some thick twine to use as "rope" I think it's gonna be really fuckin' cool! End goal is to have my glottkin mid stride breaking through the dockyard, I'm gonna try another resin thingy like I have for my gargant! Maybe make some of the planks midway sinking in and the dock cracking to splinters!
>>96542844or* a Lamassu.
>>96542825>I'm like 70% sure he's an invention of the WHF RPG.Yeah the only mention is from Children of the Horned Rat (and the same passage copypasted into TWW3)
>>96542825Total War Warhammer brought him back. He is one of the eight Ancestor Gods who the Chaos Dwarfs can collect relics.Warhammer also had other Dwarven Gods that were never confirmed to be Ancestor Gods:>Krignar, the god of racial pride and warfare.>Azram the Might, who has the colossi, giant stone dwarves, as his servants.>Gorlaz the Golden, confirmed to be an aspect of Slaanesh.
>>96542844Cohorts may be composed of duardin from various social strata. Nobles may fight shoulder to shoulder with commoners. There is contention between them, but to their credit they will nevertheless march and fight as cohesive, almost perfectly synchronized troops.
>>96542840I think Smednir is briefly mentioned as the creator of Ghal Maraz.There also a new Ancestor Goddess called Vhulkhaya.
>>96542489A scorched Magister with a ‘flew too close to the sun’ in his quest for knowledge would round that out
>>96542835I could see ulgu being the tallier, I think in whfb the order of shadow magic was associated with judgement, their symbol being the sword of judgement.The mistress of the caves using hysh to light up her domain, stuff like that.Both configurations could work imo.
>>96542896>Total War Warhammer brought him backI'd call that "used him", rather than their usage being any sort of official recognition. >>96542906Is this from the new battle tome? I just went by the articles on Warcom. I assume they're all "linked" to the Despot or general's service somehow.Are there any career Cohort members, or any other lore on them?
I'll never understand the appeal of Dwarfs, Chaos flavored or otherwise. You can dress them up any way you like, they still look fucking ridiculous.
Should I buy another arachnarok
>>96542997Me but with Nurgle, I don't get how you can find comically disgusting shit pleasant to look at
>>96542482Sounds cool, anon - go for it
>>96542998noone was already too many
>>96542998Update: I bought another arachnarok
>>96542906>>96542950>Infernal Cohorts are typically organised along kindred lines, for they are drawn largely from the royal-blooded relations — however distant — of the Despot or Daemonsmith assembling a military expedition. To serve in the legions is considered a far more prestigious means of fulfilling one's obligations than toiling as a labourer. In times of hateful peace, these duardin stand vigil over the tombs and treasure vaults that fall under their clan's authority. Befitting their assumed noble station, appearance is of prime concern to a Cohort's warriors. Despite being often commanded to traipse through ash-choked wastelands and fields of unclean flame, the armour of an Infernal Cohort is obsessively polished, and they display rich fabrics and dyed, knotted beards of the sort found only in the elite of other armies. Rival formations may favour specific Hashutite rune-sigils to extol their infamous qualities and mark them from their ‘lesser’ cohorts, inscribing these symbols on their scale-plate or displaying them on their banners. Those intricate standards are weighed down by heavy cuttings of metal so the wind cannot move them unbidden. Infernal Cohorts no doubt cut an imposing image, yet such assumed finery starkly contrasts the uncanny wrongness — the soul-deep sickness — that radiates from them.
>>96543041>Not only those of rarified blood fight amongst the Infernal Cohorts, though. There are always duardin of lower breeding that are too bullish and raucous to serve on the factory lines. While direct insult cannot be tolerated, many Zharrdron warlords consider it wasteful to squander potential through permanent disfigurement. Troublesome underlings are often initiated into the warhosts and brutalised into heeding the orders of their superiors while retaining their killer instincts. Branded with the scorching marks of their patron, they stand shoulder to shoulder with those of regal blood, dressed in borrowed grandeur and simmering with contempt. One can be sure that their erstwhile comrades are never slow to remind them of their unrefined origins. Though committing betrayal mid-battle would be an inefficiency punishable through the cruellest torments, such scorn breeds resentment and ambition. More than one famed Despot has been spurned into a perilous ascent to power after languishing as the societal runt amongst their cohort.
Just curious, what do people think are the most powerful spearheads? Played a game vs. the new nighthaunt and they're up there, imo. Otherwise, I'm thinking- OG Khorne- Sylvaneth- Stormfiend + cannon skaven
>>96543050>SylvanethTreelads have one of, if not THE, strongest Spearheads in the game right now honestly. It's probably the only one in the game that is horrifically unbalanced.
>>96543015Same here. I can appreciate the models from a hobbying standpoint, and I think blightkints for example are a fantastic kit if you're into nurgle. But actually owning and painting nurgle stuff? Fuck no.
>>96543079>>96543015I personally think Maggotkin are the best range GW has ever released. I adore these fat, gross lads. They're just like me
>>96543041>>96543048Thank you anon! This paints a pretty bleak picture of their society.
>>96543086Gah, I wanna get gutrot but he's like 30 fuckin' bucks. I love the model but holy fuck.
>>96543048I'm confused by how they're using "erstwhile" hereI thought that word meant "former"
>>96543086Although they do seriously need to update some of the models desperately, namely the Plaguebearers.>>96543097Gutrot is the only model I hate from that range haha and I think mine came out like shit, model's just a mess I couldn't get to work.
>>96543105It sucks because him and the snail both are fun models but super niche in actually running them in the army. I'd love to hobby them and all that but I feel like I've got enough nurgle guys as is for now.
>>96543105Comfy army anon! Could I ask what paint you used on the snail shell?
>>96543142Thanks :)It's akhelian green contrast over wraithbone, with Army Painter Soft Tone wash over it.
>>96543119>snail both are fun models but super niche in actually running them in the army.I've only run Slimux a handful of times. I usually play what's fun rather than what's meta, but fuck he's bad. Almost feels like you're actively hurting yourself to bring him. Plus he lets you deploy extra Gnarlmaws and I think those models are HORRIBLE haha
>>96543095It's said repeatedly that Hashut demands offerings of things like pain, harm, abasement, etc. It's not supposed to be fun.
>>96543105>Although they do seriously need to update some of the models desperately, namely the Plaguebearers.Like, they work when grouped up but no one is calling these their favourite models in all of Warhammer ya know?
>>96543164That's the issue, I love Slimux but I don't wanna run beasts of nurgle (hate the model) and I don't really care for or want to buy extra trees. I'm just using a mawpot for my 1 tree as of now. Tbh I wish BoN was more like the one from that old blood bowl pc game from ages back, big faceless sluggy monster. >>96543174They're not bad but I do wish they were a bit more poseable, they're not like... Plague monk level but they could use a bit of love.
>>96543174i like horticulous, he shows what a well sculpted plaguebearer could be
>>96543186>beasts of nurgle (hate the model)I don't hate 'em, but I've got 3 and that's more than enough. Painting 3 was more than enough, they're just so boring to work on. I vastly prefer the old metal ones and wish I could get my hands on them. Same for the Chaos Spawn, the ancient metal Spawn are kino.
>>96543213>the clonelord
>>96543213>, but I've got 3 and that's more than enough. Painting 3 was more than enough, they're just so boring to work on.See that face you chose is like my least favorite, yeah I get they're supposed be like big happy mutants. But fuck man, I want something a bit more spooky
>>96543218Yep, I still love how my dudes came out <3
>>96543153Thanks the same!
>>96542998The answer is always yes. The kit is one of the best deals for amount of bits per dollar and is really handy and versatile>>96543040Based. Are you building it skitterstrand or one with the howdah on it.
>>96543165Is there any notion of what Hashut wants the HoH to do??WD mentioned he wants elemental godhood, so I guess he's gives up on remaking his mortal body. I guess he just wants sacrifice to further his ascension?An offering of pain etc sounds like emotional or psychic feedback to give him strength in the realm of chaos (warp). Also I kind of assumed he would get power from the HoH desolating things in his name. And harming others, not just themselves.
>>96543283>Based. Are you building it skitterstrand or one with the howdah on it.Not sure. Either bare or with the flinger, probably.
Guys, I have a question. Is there a PDF link for Chaos Dwarves already available?
>>96543347Not the Helsmith tome, nope.But the warscrolls and army rules have all leaked, and we have the last points the playtesters used, pic relatedhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AvdAw6gFRx4yqkhdakw4_VVz_bzEq0Qv
>>96543041>>96543048Thanks anon. I do like how they're really portraying what living life under hashut really is like, something I feel was a bit missing from some of the other chaos tomes. Like we have some artwork here and there of khornate cities and whatnot, but then in the tomes it's all just barbarian retards.>>96543086See I get that, aesthetic's just not my thing. Maybe if they had a more subtle corruption theme going on. I guess that could be what the fly shield sneak peek is going for, we'll see.
>moonclan ride on giant mouths with bottomless stomachs and bouncy legs>spiderfang ride on giant spiders with crustacean shells and the ability to conjure wormholes>gitmob ride on regular size wolves with bad mouth hygieneThe last one needed some more workshopping.
If Aos was trve high fantasy we would see some actual mechs
>>96543422>
>>96543422the Dominator Engine is right there, anon
>>96543422What is that from? That's some escaflowne stuff right there.There are some factions where mechs could fit, but I'm not sure who would need one the most. KO has their ships doing something similar, as do Skaven with Stormfiends.
>>96543422>cogforts>parasite engines>agloraxi titansThey're all too big for tabletop
>>96543451https://x.com/littlemucha2017/status/1966602721110192302
>>96543384>picrelI hate that "sword" so much.Even if the edge could reach the target, it would be too wide to cut through anything.That shit has to triple the weight of the whole weapon and make it a weird mid heavy wobbly mess.It wouldnt even make a good club.
Is there any indication that the Seraphones will have a new battletome in this edition or do we have to wait for the next one?
>>96543422>If Aos was trve high fantasyIt is and always will be, but the nerds in charge are on a mission to ground the setting in some manner of realism. So we no longer get backdrops about people inhabiting a Dyson sphere and making a living off filling up gourds in a river of liquid time, and we don't get passing references to a bird daemon stealing a mountain kingdom and taking it for a wild joyride across the realms, and there are no plot points of artificial suns made of dragons lighting up segments of flat discworlds. Self-regenerating corpse-castles with inverted gravity powered by manmade subterranean moons, spaceship towers that abduct champions to harvest their threads of fate, interstellar railguns that launch never-ending doomsday magic across the cosmos, it's all been so toned down.
>>96543473Thank you sir!>Japanese artist>Bug mechOf course it was.
>>96543532do we even know if they are actually doing a 5th edition on the 3 year cycle? they spent all that time/energy completely rebuilding 4th from the ground up, you'd figure they'd want to get a little more juice out of it before flipping the game over.
>>96540483It’s not happening anytime soon AoS dwarves can’t look like anything that’ll fit in ToW
>>96543584who said they'd have to look like that?
>army box sells out instantly>scalped on ebay for $50-100 over GW webstore msrpdisgusting
>>96543584I'd be down for an extrapolation of Lewis Jones's design. More rounded, less angular armor.
Does anyone have the 4th Khorne Battletome? I'm trying to build a Throne of skulls but misplaced the instruction manual?
>>96543586Nobody Dwarves are a major release of ToW and until they’re figured out over there dispossessed aren’t happening
>>96543593Dwarves with halberds would be cool
I'm just praying more of the furry aelves don't get lumped with sylvaneth. Put them anywhere else. The trees deserve better.
>>96543493Oh lmao I didn't even notice that, I just assumed the sword was a bit crooked and indented
>>96543612Micro factions are gay
>>965435544th is an index edition, 5th will just be 4th with some minor tweaks here and there (hopefully upping the flavour, then 6 will turn everything on its head again>>96543593>saturnine dorfsI actually dig it
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>>96539886>Go on blueskydo your parents know youre trans?
>documentary on warmahordes>[regarding the ubiquitous use of objective mats] "do you want to play a table top game or a top downcomputer game where everything's 2D and measurements are perfect."I feel like we're close to the decline of GW
could that vampire rumor engine be for DOK?
>>96543852There's a vamp rumor engine?
>>96543612You and me both. Sylvaneth is interesting for what it already has. Give me more of that.
>>96543784warmahordes had a lot of problems, but the battle mat stuff and competitive nature were honestly the least among them. you could bypass that stuff just by virtue of who you know and game with. what really killed it, in my opinion-constantly changing rules. rules literally being rewritten monthly, like Mao style having to relearn the laws every day and no good centralized place to learn them. -exponentially increasing box price. it got to the point where they equalled and then surpassed GW, a box of infantry with command would run you $100 usd, a box of 5 cavalry was $80+. and this was back in like 2010-2012 dollars. they got their start as the cheaper, faster alternative to warhammer, but by the time 8th edition 40k released that had completely flipped.-theme lists. the fact that you could no longer mix and match your collection how you want, and had to start conforming your army to preconstructed meme lists or literally play like 20% down on army points. peoples collections ended up being split in half.there were other less obvious things, internal management, warehouse problems, skew bloat, and of course the competitive and press ganger problems, but as far as company to consumer problems, those 3 above were the 3 biggest problems i saw.
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>>96543873yeah the one with a skull on it
>>96540953The Champion is usually specified in the building instructions.
>>96543463Cogfort can as it a blanket term for the various tanks
>>96543958warmachine had kind of a cogfort
>>96543983they also had some great industrial dockyard/labor golems
>>96543988i think this one was an excavator for their dwarf equivalents
>>96543900This one? Could certainly be vampires. But my first thought was Night Lords. Hopefully it's vamps.>There's unsolved from 2022WTF
>>96539365Here you go.>>96540946It’s also in the Gotrek and Felix Novel: Road of Skulls, and I think WFRPG 2ed.Fuck you lot truly are rabid leftists. Old Warhammer had lots of shit that’s not politically correct today, how the fuck is this debatable? AoS obviously won’t be carrying it over, doesn’t mean it didn’t exist in “the World that Was”, or stop me from making a Harridan unit for my own faction.
>>96544076>rabid leftistsyou need to get your head out of your ass. If GW wasn't going to be brave enough to give us sexy chorf girl models and art, they might as well give us some muscly chorf girl soldiers.
>>96544076Deranged directionbrained retard
Grand Alliance Death is dragged down by being inseparable from Nagash
>>96544269It just occured to me, if Sigmar and Nagash are both warring over souls, why doesn't Nagash have a Stormcast equivalent?
>>96544269Vampire pirates or something like that could be a way to be a more organic soup legion of death >>96544318He does. Obr. Also Nighthaunt.
>>96544326Oh come on, OBR and nighthaunt are not stormcast equivalants. Not remotely elite enough, at least visually.
>>96544335nighthaunt maybe not, but OBR are intended to be a direct response to the stormcast
>>96544335Some of the heroes are directly stolen souls from storm casts
>>96544359sure, but I mean an equivalant as a sort of superior elite force to help out the jobbers of death.
>>96544335Mortek were modeled super small for some reason but in the concept art they're pretty swole.OBR was death's original twist on what a unique army would look like. Don't know if the stormcast quote is from a designer but they were originally meant to be elite, which apparently means rend 0 on their main troops and worse than barrow guard for some reason. The big selling point up to then was that they didn't need a babysitter hero, they were the first death faction that didn't need to be in a bubble to get a ward save (FEC/NH/SBGL all needed to at that point) as well as be able to issue commands to their own troops through unit champions.Ironically now they're the death faction that needs a baby sitter hero the most, 4e designers are so fucking stupid.
>>96544572ducking autocorrect, what a death elite army would look like
>>96544572>>96544584Regardless of their strength on tabletop, OBR are Nagash's answer to Stormcasts lore-wise. They're purpose crafted bone golems filled with the best parts of several souls.
>>96544164You are not gay per se, but you might as well be given you will clearly never father children
>>96543593Whoa, I hate it
>>96544318Ossiarchs are the elite crafter soldiers
Are STD boring? I love how they look but they seem very one dimensional. No prayers. No ranged. Basically just charge forward and shrug off attacks. Am I missing something? I may still get them but kinda concerned that they’ll get stale after awhile.
>>96545332yeah kind of. they have some really good spells and decent buffs, but they mostly just augment your charge and corresponding fight with X big unit. what they lack in interesting gameplay they make up for in obscene reliability, raw power, defense, and ease of use. but if you're looking for a tricksy technical army, they aint it.that said, blades of khorne ARE slaves to darkness but more tricksy and technical, although i think their newest book may have tamped down on that somewhat. but if you like the StD models but want more technical play, both armies field units that are pretty much carbon copies of each other (chaos warriors and blood warriors, chosen and skullreapers, chaos knights and skullcrushers, blood reavers and dark oath, etc) so you could easily do proxies that are barely even proxies the two ranges are so similar
>>96545332getting an std isnt boring
Got my test dockyard base. I think I fucked up priming my dudes though, the other guys still feel gritty which is fucking annoying since I think that causes issues when painting. Can I just prime over with another coat to save em?
>>96545436+1 reddit gold has been deposited to your account for this epic lawl post
>>96544269isn't Nagash dead arm?
>>96544076WHFRP second edition wasn't in-house, retard. It is as Warhammer Fantasy as Total War
>>96544269OBRhonestly they fucked up making mortek so small. OBR should have been the elite skeleton construct army to the SBG horde skeletons
>>96545778He's been dead the whole time. Didn't you notice the skull face?
>>96545730If your prime is bad, another coat won't hide it, you'll just clog details. Best to wash them with alcohol and do it again.
>>96544269Shut the fuck up fanggot, skeletons and zombies are dragged down by having to be associated with you.
I think a lot of people don't realize nuchorfs aren't just dawi zharr transported into age of sigmar, like you could say about orcs or ogres or whatever. They got their own history and culture and shit. Like yeah from a doylist perspective gw is not going to have something as 'icky and problematic' as having your evil faction of evildoers have harems and slaves, but also from a watsonian perspective none of the quirks of dawi zharr society necessarily apply to zharrdron. It's like quoting dark elf fluff when talking about idoneth.
>>96545996Faggot the whole Chorf-Kruleboy lore has been about slave trade for almost half a decade now
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>>96539957newfag fucking obliterated>>96539962shut the fuck up retard
>>96538851>(As an aside, I don't get why everyone's okay with that kind of thing now when it usually gets mocked as poor writing and cliché)But it's not that kind of thing. They openly and admittedly worship Hashut, they claim he is an ancestor god instead of a chaos one. It's substantially different from the marine edgelords shitting dick nipples claiming chaos has no hold over them and that they've always had that particular fetish. In other words they're not dindus larping as 13 year olds sticking it to the man.
