mechs are logistically impractical

>>96545047
Yes, and? Battletech isn't supposed to be realistic, realistically the pilots would turn to soup inside the mechs from the sheer g-forces but it's not that kind of game.

>>96545047
Counterpoint: they are so cool that doesn't matter.

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HONOR THE DRAGON

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https://youtu.be/1scqRZFG6cY?si=VydSzPrHf2S4KWhQ
KERENSKY IS DEIFIED
THE CLANS TELL TALES OF HIM
FEW KNOW THE TRUTH
HE WAS MORTAL ONCE
AS WERE WE ALL
HOWEVER, HIS CONTEMPT FOR HUMANITY
DROVE HIM TO CREAT ME AND MY BRETHREN

>>96545053
>pilots would turn to soup inside the mechs from the sheer g-forces

wtf no they wouldn't, real life f1 drivers experience way more gforces than any battlemech would and it's still only 1 or 2 gs while fighter pilots can take 7+gs

>>96545047
>t. dezgranon

>>96545104
>wtf no they wouldn't
Mechs are capable of producing up to 80 g's of force in a mech pilot.

For comparison, 15 to 20 g's is considered catastrophic and produces bodily injury, and even fighter pilots only ever experience that during an ejection.

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We DENIABLE OPS INC. Now.
Gonna stripey-splotch some green once the tan is dry. For an arid Plains/savannah. And try some giraffe with yellowy-peadot.

Zandri dust, death world forest
and then averland sunset for the dots.

>>96545091
Have anyone tried freehanding a 'mouth' on the Dragon like that? Decal?

>>96545156
>Mechs are capable of producing up to 80 g's of force in a mech pilot.
Can you prove that?

>>96545233
The Fire Moth configuration P is able to go from 270 km/h to an almost instantaneous stop. Calculating the g-forces for such we get, depending on the time to stop assumed, anywhere from 15 g's on the low end (still bodily-harming and would likely need hospital time to recover from) up to 250 g's on the higher ends.

>>96545247
That doesn't happen to any dasher pilot in the setting. So regardless of if it applies that many g-forces mechs have harnesses or other mechanisms that prevent any harm. We thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>96545271
>That doesn't happen to any dasher pilot in the setting.
No shit, Battletech doesn't work based on real world logic.

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Oh, look what arrived in the mail today.

>>96545104
Strap yourself to a seat in a cabin at the top of a ten metre ladder. Accelerate the ladder to 90 kph and then push it so it falls over. How many Gs will you take when you hit the floor? I bet you will take more than a single wound point, whatever the fuck that is.

Wow, we've got some early thread piping hot takes from the guys who understand physics less than anyone who's written a mech series. There hasn't been a "the square cube law means they'd all sink into the ground!" yet?

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>>96545681
Jets are fantasy machines that require super special treatment and would lose to tanks in a fair fight.

Rolled 1, 6, 3, 1 = 11 (4d6)

Hey anon running the Great Timbiqui Beer Run of 49. Do you plan to do this as an objective raid or a standup fight?

>>96545711
Actually the amusing thing is that ASF's pretty much dominate mechs in-game and the only reason people don't use them is because there's a gentleman's agreement not to.

>>96545711
got me curious (i don't knownshit about military stuffs). are custom stickers really allowed? i mean it might affect aerodynamics and stealth and shits, on top of vanityjatjn

Rolled 591 (1d1000)

>>96545716
Forgot to say Lyran side. Leutenant Mark Sayyadi. Only moderately rich as opposed to fantastically rich. Only mildly incompetent as opposed to fantastically incompetent.

>>96545720
Yeah that's the funny thing about Battletech. They accidentally made the tabletop too realistic so that mechs pretty much suck as much as they do IRL, so all the players have to agree to stick to using mechs even though they're not the meta, and then the books just give the mechs plot armor to explain why they're still used.

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Started work on a new lance for a senario I'm working on.

>>96545727
We doing the ASF cope larp again where ASFs are strictly better than mechs because:
- players don't know how they work and how to counter them
- players don't field mechs and equipment to counter them
- the scenario assumes a bunch of bullshit optional rules tuned to protect ASFs
- the scenario ignores the part where ASFs can dissolve instantly into a pile of wasted BV and shattered dreams

Or is this more just a general wank session?

>>96545737
Shame the Phoenix Hawk doesn't have a red head as well otherwise you'd have a full redhead lance.

>>96545776
I will paint its head red

>>96545780
kek don't have to go to that much effort for a simple shitpost though that said came up with characters for all the pilots?

>>96545720
>>96545727
posted the same comment chain again award

>>96545772
Considering the amount of people that probably have played Aerotech you can count with your fingers suspect its going to be more of a wank session.

Hopefully that ASF rule update rumor is true so I can finally use my beloved weapons platform the rifleman the way it was intended.

>>96545786
>said came up with characters for all the pilots?
Not individually, but the senario for these guys is.
>Mercs hired by the FWL to guard a large but remote mining facility
>Along with local millitia, they have been
>Have been selling metals and lying about how much is being mined. Gotten to the point where they have gone rouge
>FWL deploys some troops to take it back
>Senario involves a FWL lance that deployed and marched to secure a base camp for the rest of the force to stage an attack from and have to hold of the red lance

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DENIABLE OPS INC. Is coming along. Giraffe-camo ish mode engaged.

>>96545721
First off that's not a custom sticker, but if you're asking if 'custom artwork' is allowed? Usually its a answer of 'it depends'. They used to be a lot more common, but these days as a general rule 'no' among western militaries. It also depends wildly on the vehicle in question. Fighters/bombers etc? No, but the pilots/backseaters/etc can usually customize their helmets a bit... although that's likely changing to with the super expensive helmets they're getting, you really don't want to fuck with them. Tanks and armoured vehicles? Yeah, most crew are allowed to name them and usually have the name stencilled on the barrel or suchlike and its usually a game of 'what cheeky shit can we get away with, without attracting the wrath of command' for a name.

Pinups and shark teeth and shit like that in 'modern' times? Nah. Last time we really saw that was the gulf war and its just not really a thing any more. Society changes and so do expectations of proper conduct.

In Battletech? Fuck knows, depends on your society, military unit, chain of command etc. I'd imagine most military units would forbid that sort of shit... outside of perhaps the odd smartarse stencilled remark etc. Mercenaries? Depends on how professional they might want to appear.

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Got some more done on my lunch break

>>96546139
Get fucked. Shark grins and such should return and the humourless, joyless bureaucratic assholes the decided every plane must be grey turds forever should be fucking thrown out of a Hercules at 50 K feet into the fucking Atlantic.
Without a parachute.

>>96546139
>I'd imagine most military units would forbid that sort of shit
you would expect wrong, BT has always been full of extremely eccentric mechwarriors, even in state line units

>>96545721
Dont JSDF attack helicopters have anime pinups on the sides? I remember seeing something along those lines on here

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>>96546163
That was just a recrutment thing.

>>96546163
For an airship, yes. And it was an anime pin-up... of the cute pilot girl.

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>>96545716
Just a battle.
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FWL BV: 5,677 (2 slots remain)
>Rifleman (RFL-3N) 4/6
>Vindicator (VND-1R) Sneed 2/5
>Phoenix Hawk (PXH-1) Augustus Herczog 4/5
>Raven (RVN-2X) Raj Singh 4/6
>Stinger (STG-3R) "Arf" 3/4
>SRM Carrier, Alfred Quack 4/4

Lyrans BV: 8,891 (2 slots remain)
>Atlas (AS7-D) Dario Tareska 3/4
>Banshee (BNC-3E) Count Hogan Schultz von Hammelburg 4/6
>Axman (AXM-1N) 4/6
>Bushwacker (BSW-X1) Lt. Hanz Gruber, 4/6
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) "Rook"2/4
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) Leutenant Mark Sayyadi 4/6
---------------
Well this is certainly shaping up to be a 1-sided slaughter. Alas, 2 slots for each side remain.
Unless I close out the Lyran force here. Seeking feedback. Should they just be capped out at these 6 defenders then or do we stick with the original 8v8 and let come what comes?

>>96546152
*shrugs* Man, I'm not saying otherwise. Sharkteeth and pinups and shit were pretty cool honestly, for the guys flying/driving/piloting etc if it makes them feel even 1% better and has the tiniest chance to improve their morale? Sure, Fuck it. Why not?

>>96545711
Get new material.

>>96545725
>Only mildly incompetent as opposed to fantastically incompetent
You disgust me.

>>96545003
Those ones are fine since they mostly cover the deep pre 3rd succ lore, not current pop lore, and it's basically him just reading from the books.

>>96546139
I'd expect SLDF was likely more strict with customizing your mechs, what's with them going for the all uniform olive drab look (though there was that one weeb regiment that painted anime girls on their mechs and embarrassed the Dracs), but from the SW era to the Clan invasion it was common for pilots to own their mechs so there would more likely be more acceptance on personal decorations. Considering there's even canonical examples of people using custom paint schemes wildly different from their regiment's standard (like one SoL Jenner pilot with an all black paint job instead of the standard red), painting some slogan or pinup on the cockpit is pretty minor.
Also, thematically mechwarriors are supposed to be cross between fighter aces and modern day knights, and knights usually had distinctive heraldry to identify them on the battlefield.

>>96545772
It’s entirely possible to use ASF’s in such a way that they literally can’t be shot down by mechs at all.

>>96546280
High altitude carpet bombing with thermobarics / FAE.

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PURPLE BIRD STRONG!!!!!

>>96545846
Is this going to be a FWL maid lance vs redheads catfight?

>>96546355
Sure why not.

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best mech for this vibe?
https://youtu.be/kAOYUTdkM-w

Should more mecha have quirks that have an impact on gameplay? It seems like every mech just has the same quirks: Rugged/ubiquitous, with a side order of command battlemech. I'd like to see more mechs with improved/worse cooling for weapons, better/worse targeting at certain range brackets, improved targeting for certain weapons. some real flaws or bonuses to distinguish them and add some neat lore.

>>96546083
Nuln oil anon?

>>96546180
The dice have decided.

>>96546677
Yes. Agreed.

The panther is sorta interesting with nimble jumper and short ranged targeting. The short ranged targeting offsets the +1 minimum range that the PPC would have, and it makes those SRMs just a tad more likely to hit.

You didn't mention it, but really the worst quirk is narrow/low profile. It's obnoxious and quite obviously more powerful than pretty much any other quirk. A table of light mechs all with that quirk turns into a no-hit snooze-fest.

I think quirks and SPAs are both getting Xotl rebalanced, so that'll be interesting. I hope that they remove anything that gives a flat +/- 1 to TNs (jumping jack, narrow/low profile, etc). Or at least give an associated malus. (Sorta makes sense than narrow/low profile would apply a PSR debuff?)

>>96546859
If a PPC is at 3 hexes, it doesn't make sense that it would get a -1. It's not at short range, it's at min range.

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Finally had the time to get some more models painted, but I'm not happy with the result. I swear GW must have changed the recipe for Ulthuan grey (which I use instead of actual white since pure white is a pain to work with) as it now seems to be extremely runny and barely covers anything, forcing me to apply way more coats than before and made correcting any mistakes a pain in the ass.
At least I don't think I need to paint any more FW Guard for a while so next I can just paint something easier, like camo.

>>96546859
There are some quirks that don't need to be balanced with a negative one, pretty much all the campaign only quirks like rugged/ubiquitous/fast reload, etc. The ones that impact gameplay on the tabletop should have a negative quirk to balance it. The Locust has cramped cockpit, no/minimal arms, and weak legs to offset narrow/low profile. The Marauder, on the other hand, has a laundry list of positive quirks in addition to the low/narrow profile. I'd give it a different quirk to represent its curved hull that isn't as strong. I believe there's an optional rule in TO where if a ballistic/energy weapon rolls exactly the target number, it's a glancing hit that does half damage. I'd give the Marauder and similarly shaped mechs a quirk like that because it won't come into play as often, it can't move fast enough to consistently generate TNs that will only glance like a light mech would, so it'll still get hit.

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>>96546925
ahhh... yea I'm dumb.

>>96547007
agree

>>96546966
birds

>>96546677
Its very easy to go overboard with adding perks to everything just for the sake of adding things. Way they currently stand is that they give a new lease on life on designs most people wouldn't normally take like the Osts for example. Current rules for narrow/low profile drastically improves the survivability of those designs and why I'd consider something like the Ostscout over the Spider for objective play.

Shrapnel #22 in the drop folder

As always, FUCK CGL!

>>96547335
Thank you

>>96547335
Algo got the .epub version. Enjoy!

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>>96547335
Does it take time for it to appear? Cause I don't see it.

>>96547654
Have to wait for Snord to put it in the museum.

>>96547654
Snord have to take it fron the dead drop to Clinton

>>96546859
Narrow/low profile hasn't been a flat TN modifier for 8 years.

>>96547837
What is it now?

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>>96547877

Im rereading the GDL trilogy and in the 3rd book Grayson is fighting a Centurion and scores a crit on its SRM ammo. Since novels are the highest form of canon, does this mean there's a 3rd succ war era Centurion with an autocannon and SRMs? I'm not familiar with any but that seems like a good mech.

Rolled 6, 4, 6, 4 = 20 (4d6)

>>96546180
Rolling for the Lyrians! Pilot Rogel Sturm, a beer swilling beefcake built like a circus strongman. Secretly aspires to sing opera.

>>96548024
Pulling the LRM and ammunition gives you seven tons to play with. Twin SRM6 and a single ton of ammunition might make for a good sucker punch, poor endurance though.. Alternatively, twin SRM4, ammunition and an extra ton for armor or a heat sink.

>>96548024
Probably a typo but FASA products are born in typos, molded by them, expect a variant to be added to a later TRO at some point that acknowledges it.

Rolled 36 (1d1000)

>>96546180
Fuck it, all in on Purple Bird. Anton Slavik's the name and making cash is his game.

Rolled 1, 5, 6, 6 = 18 (4d6)

>>96548110
And stats.

Rolled 26 (1d1000)

>>96548116
And the salvage roll.

>>96547937
>The glancing blow and the Glancing Blow are two different thing that can stack
Jesus

>>96548129
>>96548116
>>96548110
So if I'm reading this right, I have a 3/4 Locust 1E?

Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>96548062
Retarded me, I forgot the mech roll

Rolled 21 (1d100)

>>96548427
I'll check the tro later

>>96548064
>>96548071
A 4 and 6 with 1t ammo each would drop in neatly and match the tube count.

How come Battletech is okay with auto cannons shooting however many bullets and stuff but it's super autistic about the # of missiles a launcher shoots?

>>96548710
SRMs and LRMs should have one universal 'SRM ammo (100 rounds)' 'LRM ammo (120 rounds)' instead of SRM4 and SRM6 using different ammo and shits

>>96548726
You've made the mistake of assuming an LRM 20 fires 20 missiles. No! In the approximation that this game makes, it simply scales the approximate damage of the attack back against the size of the launcher. For all we know, some LRM 20s could fire 40 half-size missiles, and the smaller size allows more accuracy so 5-point clusters are still used

>>96548726
Because if they didn't it would just be another gun. Counting missiles enables the cluster chart.

>>96548427
You rolled short, anon. 1d1000.

>>96548726
Because battlech is inconsistent in it's level of abstractness.

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LCT-1V or LCT-1Vb?

>>96546677
I want quirks that would separate humanoid/non-humanoid mechs further. Like, imagine you can't headshot chicken mechs from rear arc etc.

>>96546677
Personally, I want to see more of the Compact Mech quirk, and see it utilized to stuff small dropships to the brim for harassment raids. A Leopard delivering something like 8 Saraths and two ASFs can technically deliver a full company (two mech lances and one ASF lance,) and fifty tons per mech gives you a lot of options.

>>96548893
Or split mechbays into size categories like vehicles have.

>>96548893
The Compact Mech quirk should have a downside of making it harder/impossible to work on the mechs while they're stuffed in. Even the story where they packed two entire companies of Saraths into a Union for a shock raid specifically called it out as a dangerous move.

>>96548814
Can you make it a Flea?

>>96548814
Any theme/era going for?

>>96549007
Pirates

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>>96548968
Even better, a fat Battalion in two Unions.

>>96548968
It's noted at least on Sarna that Compact Mechs still take one entire repair bay for themselves, but if you're just somewhere to hit and bugger off, that's less of an issue. So yeah, the rules already agree with you and I can live with that downside.

As for it being a dangerous move... that applies to kinda everything in war, doesn't it? It's a calculated risk, and if the tactic proliferates, the strategic response will be to keep more troops on the defensive to counter these double raids, binding opposing forces. It has its place and value.

>>96549012
1V

>when she brings aerospace units and you don't know the rules

>>96549103
Time for your best Rick Ashley impersonation.

>>96549018
I don't know enough about the campaign/logistics rules to know if this is already the case, but if compact becomes more of a thing, there should be enforcement of the use of bay doors. For example, it is known that the only way from the mech bays to the general cargo bay or the Aerospace bay on a Leopard is through a man-sized door. If you swapped out the aero bays for more mechbays, the only way to move a mech from the original mechbays to the new one would be to take it out into space and then back in through the other bay door. That kind of restriction would need to be enforced to keep Compact in check a bit.

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>>96548440
The other anon is correct, you rolled a d100, not a d1000. However I feel rather inclined to let the roll stand. So congratulations! Rogel Sturm is the proud pilot a Kuritan salvaged Spider, SDR-5V loadout. At 2/4 though, he's a pretty darn good one. BV 958.
>>96548129
Wow. That is some low rolling you did there. For the mech at least. Your pilot turned out okay. You have Anton Slavik, pilot of a Capellan salvaged Locust, LCT-1E loadout. 3/4 stats, BV 730
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FWL BV: 6,407 (1 slot remains)
>Rifleman (RFL-3N) 4/6
>Vindicator (VND-1R) Sneed 2/5
>Phoenix Hawk (PXH-1) Augustus Herczog 4/5
>Raven (RVN-2X) Raj Singh 4/6
>Stinger (STG-3R) "Arf" 3/4
>Locust (LCT-1E) Anton Slavik 3/4
>SRM Carrier, Alfred Quack 4/4

Lyrans BV: 9,849 (1 slot remains)
>Atlas (AS7-D) Dario Tareska 3/4
>Banshee (BNC-3E) Count Hogan Schultz von Hammelburg 4/6
>Axman (AXM-1N) 4/6
>Bushwacker (BSW-X1) Lt. Hanz Gruber, 4/6
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) "Rook"2/4
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) Leutenant Mark Sayyadi 4/6
>Spider (SDR-5v) Rogel Sturm 2/4
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Each side has 1 opening left. May heaven have mercy on the FWL with this last roll, because the dice sure aren't.

>>96549220
Since the birbs are on a beer run and didn't actually bring a lot of hands, I suggest you toss in a few APCs on their side to haul the loot.

Rolled 823 (1d1000)

>>96549220
Alright, here we go for FWL.
Duncan "Slypig" Cunningham

>>96549252
They might be on a beer run. Or the Commander might just be a recovering alcoholic that seeks to destroy the brewing plant to remove the nearby temptation. We'll only know for sure if he can break through the Lyran line and reach the plant.

Rolled 2, 5, 3, 2 = 12 (4d6)

>>96549315
Good start.

>>96549315
>>96549320
4/6 Catapult C1
Certainly not the worst thing on the list. Not even close.

What might be the best Introtech Light mechs for a pirate band?

>>96549346
Noted and added. Well, the Purple Birds had a strong final roll, but it already doesn't look good for them.

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FWL BV:7,736
>Catapult (CPLT-C1) Duncan "Slypig" Cunningham 4/6
>Rifleman (RFL-3N) 4/6
>Vindicator (VND-1R) Sneed 2/5
>Phoenix Hawk (PXH-1) Augustus Herczog 4/5
>Raven (RVN-2X) Raj Singh 4/6
>Stinger (STG-3R) "Arf" 3/4
>Locust (LCT-1E) Anton Slavik 3/4
>SRM Carrier, Alfred Quack 4/4

Lyrans BV: 9,849 (1 slot remains)
>Atlas (AS7-D) Dario Tareska 3/4
>Banshee (BNC-3E) Count Hogan Schultz von Hammelburg 4/6
>Axman (AXM-1N) 4/6
>Bushwacker (BSW-X1) Lt. Hanz Gruber, 4/6
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) "Rook"2/4
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) Lieutenant Mark Sayyadi 4/6
>Spider (SDR-5V) Rogel Sturm 2/4
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I am tempted to just give myself the final Lyran spot with a mech roll and just take the Scorpion Light Tank. It's the worst thing remaining that the Lyrans could roll at this point, but I did say at the start I wouldn't roll one for myself. I should probably stick to that.

>>96549382
Wasp, Stinger, Commando, Javelin.

Rolled 5, 1, 1, 6 = 13 (4d6)

>>96549389
In that case, pick a name.

Rolled 162 (1d1000)

>>96549389
>>96549409
And if you're so inclined, this ride.

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>>96549318
High stakes beer run.

>>96549422
That's a Panther. I love the Panther. He'd be a 4/4. That's not horrible. I'll accept it on the condition that if anyone wants, they can roll in a mech to take my place.
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FWL BV:7,736
>Catapult (CPLT-C1) Duncan "Slypig" Cunningham 4/6
>Rifleman (RFL-3N) 4/6
>Vindicator (VND-1R) Sneed 2/5
>Phoenix Hawk (PXH-1) Augustus Herczog 4/5
>Raven (RVN-2X) Raj Singh 4/6
>Stinger (STG-3R) "Arf" 3/4
>Locust (LCT-1E) Anton Slavik 3/4
>SRM Carrier, Alfred Quack 4/4

Lyrans BV:10,695
>Atlas (AS7-D) Dario Tareska 3/4
>Banshee (BNC-3E) Count Hogan Schultz von Hammelburg 4/6
>Axman (AXM-1N) 4/6
>Bushwacker (BSW-X1) Lt. Hanz Gruber, 4/6
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) "Rook"2/4
>Enforcer (ENF-4R) Lieutenant Mark Sayyadi 4/6
>Panther (PNT-9R) "THE OP" 4/4
>Spider (SDR-5V) Rogel Sturm 2/4
----------------------
Alright. So this is one of those situations in which we see that we all know how this is going to turn out before it has even gotten started. So I am considering something to possibly make it more interesting. Would the FWL like to hire a lance of Mercs? In lore, these would be planet side locals that would offer their services to the FWL upon them landing. I'd have to look through my collection and decide which merc minis get to be eligible. If this option is taken, make no mistake, this lance and its pilots will be BAD. The idea of them will be to shorten the gap, but it will definitely still be there. I'm talking about bug mechs, light tanks, and maybe, MAYBE, a single Blackjack at most. Regardless of what I make the mech list, the mercenary pilots, being untrained and untested, will have their stats rolled with a -2 on the chart. That's right, worst case scenario, a 7/7 shows up.
But I leave this idea up to the FWL and just the FWL league. Lyrans, you're on the honor system and again, if anyone wants to roll in a mech yet to replace my Panther, they are welcome too.

>>96549574
Fill out the Birbs BV with LRM Carriers or something and let her rip.

>>96548893
>A Leopard delivering something like 8 Saraths and two ASFs can technically deliver a full company (two mech lances and one ASF lance,) and fifty tons per mech gives you a lot of options.
No... LOCUST!!!
A PLAUGE OF LOCUST!!!

>>96549602
If you could ram five Locusts into one mech bay, I'd be the first to wear green and jump around, but since you only get two mechs per bay with the quirk, there's no reason not to do 50 tonners.

>>96549597
No. Dice based or nothing. Also, I only have 1 other LRM carrier and it's in Kurita colors.

>>96549623
>there's no reason not to do 50 tonners.
Except the Saraths don't exist until 3122...

>>96549680
True enough, but one would imagine somebody had come to the same conclusions by the time IS powers could build new mechs again. 3050 onwards at the latest. But no, off the top of my head there's only three compact mechs, the remaining unmentioned one being the Jackalope.

>>96545247
Presumably Clanners have a higher tolerance for g forces, what with the genetic engineering and all.

>>96549382
Best mech, or mech they would realistically have?
>criteria
>needs to be fast and have hands to loot with (sorry locust)
The spider comes to mind.

Is the spider anywhere near as available as a stinger or wasp? Absolutely not. So just how well-equipped are your pirates?

>>96546167
I'd seen this before, but it cropped out the pilot. I had no idea it was supposed to be an anime version of the lady who flies it. Does make me wonder about that other one, though. How does a jinj wind up in the Japanese defense force?

>>96549403
Wasp and Stinger have never been the 'best' anything.

>>96549382
Locust hung with cargo nets.

>>96549426
You joke, but having water or other liquid rations mounted on the helmet like that might actually be a good idea. You could be in the cockpit for hours or even days at a time and might need to be grabbing the controls at a moment's notice. Hands free sustenance makes a lot of sense.

>>96549833
They're cheap, easy to maintain and have two humanoid hands for grabbing loot with.

>>96549819
>How does a jinj wind up in the Japanese defense force?
She probably dyes her hair tgat weird Japanese hair color that's not quite blonde but too light to be brown but with a touch of red in just the right light. I don't know if they have a soecific term for that or it's just what happens with jet black hair not being bleached properly before being dyed, but it used to be ubiquitous with Japanese teens.

>>96549833
They're the best at being cheap, available to pirates, and behanded.
If you want gucci pirates, then you get something like a Spider, Hermes, Mercury, and I dunno, Hussar. Comstar eat your heart out.

>>96549909
They're taking up a mechbay that could be better filled by almost anything else.

>>96549915
Do they let soldiers bleach their hair over there? I know that pilots usually have more leeway with dress codes than infantry, but still.

>>96549574
Make it so the Lyrans don't start with all their units on the field. They're too drunk and half asleep for the first few rounds.

>>96549737
I am inclined to agree with this anon.
Spiders are excellent smash and grab mechs with just enough firepower to dissuade designs that are quick enough to pursue from continuing said pursuit.
>>96549833
Fags talk shit about the Stinger and Wasp but in a 20 ton bug fight and in their intended roles they're actually pretty decent for what you get and what you expect to use them for. Your box standard Wasp with infernos is an okay vehicle hunter or with smoke can produce cover to screen a retreat. The 3G Stinger has a rather basic but effective loadout that lets it punch holes in other mechs in its tonnage. Till newer more advanced designs appear about the main units they have to worry about outside of heavier mechs of course is basically the Locust and the snowflake who has a Mercury.
>>96549894
I know legit some tankers who rigged something similar using IV bags before hydration packs were a thing.

>>96549977
Interesting idea. I'll consider something similar to this.

Thought the Spider was pretty rare mech until the Dragoons came with tons of them
>How the hell did Dekker get one I wonder

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Testing a color scheme for a campaign so I threw down some base colors and a wash. How does this read as a FWL Militia / Marik aligned Merc company?

Do anyone play Battletech RPG (A Time of War)? Is it good?

>>96549977
A noble does not get drunk. The amount of brandy and schnapps I consume will on no way effect my judgement or piloting ability. I'll have you know I was 431st in my class at the Nagelring.

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>>96549977
>Implying they aren't sitting down for a three course meal and refuse to enter their mech cockpits till they finished the coffee and cigars
>>96550144
Depends on the source.
Recent stuff says its rare outside of the FWL and the Combine as they both build them when it comes to Succession Wars. Previously they were all salvage or with Wolf Dragoons.
One thing that surprised me about the Spider is for something that was meant to be used by SLDF covert ops there isn't a Royal version out there.

>>96549977
Tea time is sacred and must not be missed
or they're all Muslims and have to pray at certain time

>>96550319
Tends to be Kurita that has more of a Muslim following with the whole Arkab thing.

>>96550272
>Implying they aren't sitting down for a three course meal and refuse to enter their mech cockpits till they finished the coffee and cigars
We need an APC to carry the bodyservants and officer's accouterments. Insufficient access to fine smokables and alcohol would have a detrimental effect on the Lyran nobility in the force. Maybe we have to rotate off the line occasionally to "rearm".

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>>96550144
What's up, it's ya boi Nimakachi Fusion Products Limited, comin' atcha with Spider production lines on Tematagi (FWL), Lapida (DC), and Oshika (DC). Also Venoms and Bishamons, for Spider-like variety.

>>96550384
>Spider-like variety
Fuck now all I can think of is Kurita Spiderman sponsored by Nimakachi Fusion Products

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>>96550395
The art for the Venom literally looks like some kind of superhero thing already.

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>>96550355
MASH truck but for field kitchen/restaurant when
What should its acronym be, Mobile something something Kitchen?

>>96550254
>A noble does not get drunk.
True, only peasants get drunk. Nobles get "tired and emotional."

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>>96550384
>>96550395
Ah, the famous Supaidâ

>>96550414
Auxiliary Clubhouse
Mobile Country Club
All-terrain Dining Car

>>96545795
Honestly, the only way to "fix" ASF is to completely rewrite them from the ground up, throw out the old rules and units, etc...

Make them closer to conventional fighters, the _strategic_ value of ASF in the setting needs to come from their versatility rather than the fact that they're mechs that fly.

And because nobody would actually want to use them like that, there won't ever be a good official "fix" to aero.

Thank you for listening to my unhinged but objectively correct opinions.

>>96550410
What if it was the mech he piloted?
>>96550414
Needs to work in gulaschkanone into the name somehow.
>>96550435
He is part of the otomo as well.
>>96550458
Need to fix Aerotech so it doesn't just become an exercise on who runs out of fuel first even if that would unintentionally buff a lot of Clan ASF to massive degrees.

>>96550494
>an exercise on who runs out of fuel first
That's a pretty realistic space fight scenario, all things considered.

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>>96550395
>>96550435
"I am the Light Mech Emissary of HELL!"

>>96550494
>What if it was the mech he piloted?
That's not Leopardon!

>>96549574
I'd say roll for a neutral "merc" lance. Not necessarily with the FWL specifically, but a group that you can divide up however is needed to make things more fair.
Although there's a good chance they'd all go FWL anyways.

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Yeah, someone gatta paint the upcoming Venom in Leopardon colors

So been doing updates. New Sharpnel uploaded to Story Time. I might be missing some recent novels for it as well. I'm doing some double checks to see what I am missing and will be posting updates when I can.

>>96550803
Our hero

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Playing another playtest tonight

>>96550889
Whoever is in charge of that spaceports perimeter security is going to get a legendary ass chewing for letting mechs get so close to the strip without being challenged.

>>96550889
It'll bother me if I don't say it, that runway isn't long enough. They'll still take off because the last few hexes they need are clear, though.

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Oh cool, they're giving out contracts now

>>96550975
Fantastic. Where's this from?

>>96550975
Too many positive options for a quickscell product.

>>96551001
Quikscell makes good products they just don't assemble or QA them. Sometimes at all.

>>96551001
>>96551011

>Best factory is literally on a world called Broken Wheel.

>>96551011
>Quikscell makes ok products they just don't assemble or QA them. Sometimes at all.
No QA is honestly a really big deal on combat equipment. 90% of brand wars regarding AR-15's is almost explicitly about how good a given companies QA is.

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Which one is the best choice?
>>96551000
Shrapnel #22

>>96551023
Well you see, that's why they ship your tank with all of its parts stuffed into the crew cabin instead of installed. If you can't trust yourself to inspect them, then who could you trust?

>>96551027
A complications table. Maybe I started bitching too soon.

>>96551027
Oh, is this that one time they went to war on their knockoffs? They offered to take any bootleg vehicle and trade it for a genuine Quikscell equivalent and it's heavily implied that they explored all options of lawfare and warfare against the manufacturers.

>>96551032
>If you can't trust yourself to inspect them, then who could you trust?
Not me. Not grunts. Not a fly by night arms dealer. Not big MiC contractors. Maybe the rednecks working at agricomplex 39B on unnamed periphery planet.

>>96551051
>Vedette
>Bootleg
>When it's an NETC design made by the robes
Oi!

>>96551051
I would like to see Historical: Quickscell IP Enforcement.

>>96551069
Corporate wars feels like a criminally underused scenario in Battletech.

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>>96551062
>>96551069
It might have been in another TRO where it was implied they got dirty, but it definitely feels like something that could have happened to bootleggers operating in less-than-robust legal systems. Pirate haven garages, maybe certain Drac or Cappie jurisdictions that don't care a lick about foreign IP rights, etc. Mercenaries dropping in and burning them to the ground wouldn't be out of the question at all.

>>96550784
Man, i want a couple of those venoms. God only knows how long it'll be before they hit Australia

What kind of mechs could quikscell get the licenses for? The marians of all people managed to get the centurion and locust (though half their economy relies off piracy so it's dubious if they actually have said licenses) but it's not out of the realm of possibility

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>Sea Fox Mercenary Bonding Authority
Oh dear

>>96551359
Where are these coming from, the next hot spots campaign book?

>>96550975
>>96551027
>Quikkscell
c'mon

>>96551376
Shrapnel #22 that just got added to the cache

>>96551359
The gall to accuse Quickscell of stealing proprietary information! They don't even use the plans they already have.

>>96551386
You effort is appreciated.

Quikscell.
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I'm gonna play this through the exterior speakers of my mech whenever I go into battle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WNBCu3eW9s

>>96551359
>>96551392
>>96551436
Wait a minute, are we dealing with a knock-off Quikscell?!

>>96551677
>It's turtles all the way down.

What's the best beemer variant?

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>>96551783
The kind with a huge bubble cockpit that fits all your fat ass and your fat titty whores.

>>96551390
what is this I don't even

>>96550080
>Fags talk shit about the Stinger and Wasp but in a 20 ton bug fight and in their intended roles they're actually pretty decent for what you get and what you expect to use them for.
>Till newer more advanced designs appear about the main units they have to worry about outside of heavier mechs of course is basically the Locust and the snowflake who has a Mercury.
So in a 20 ton bug fight they're going to lose to the only other 20 ton mechs, got it. Face it, the only role of the Wasp and Stinger is to pad out Opfor numbers in a campaign.

So the reason that the Succ States continued to bulk build objectively shit 'mechs was those were the only 'mechs they could produce?

>>96551972
Yeah, same reason America uses 5.56 for everything under the sun

>>96551958
My Rambo Stinger has always been a premier spotter and a champ backstabber. It's like how the Charger 1A1 is the premier salvage machine of 3025. If you're not chanting "kick the leg, break the leg" you ain't doing it right.

>>96551972
>Only make 5 regiments a year extra that you can send on raids and not fuck your stalemate with the other great states
>Take time off to retool and get cornholed by your enemies

Get on the Succ level.

>>96551972
All of the mechs they continue to build have the rare advantage of "still has a production line that wasn't nuked", but most of them have genuine advantages, even if they don't come across in a single skirmish. Look at the Hermes II. On a tactical level, it's a kinda bad scout as a 6/9/0 saddled with an AC/5. But the can produce so many of them that they can afford to sell them on the open market next to the clapped out shitbox frankenmechs that the military doesn't want to pay to keep running anymore. It's easy to maintain, easy to build, easy to slot into any logistical situation originating in the FWL. Compared to some bespoke star league hangar queen or pork barrel boondoggle, it's great even if the hangar queen could solo an entire lance of them by itself.

I dunno, if CGR-1A1/1L had all its weapons removed and outfitted with one LL (rest goes to the armour) it might have been a good Light hunter at least. Shoot off a leg, close in and kick

Why don’t MechWarriors ever play hide and seek?
Because good luck hiding when your heat signature lights up half the planet

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>>96550911
>>96550962
Lyrans ended up beating mercs pretty thoroughly

>>96552270
Battle report?

>>96552270
I can't take these battles on miniscule maps seriously.

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With the new ammo explosion rules how is the buffalo going to work now?

>>96552321
It will quietly fade into apocrypha

>>96552270
thoughts on the playtesting changes?

>>96552321
wait, supercharger was a thing in 3015?

>>96552321
As a VBIED instead of a 4kt tactical nuke.

>>96552321
It's still doing like 125 damage from the booby trap to adjacent units.

>>96552321
The Booby Trap that actually sets it off doesn't rely on ammo explosions. Technically because the unit is "completely destroyed" as soon as it activates, I don't even think it ever has the possibility of chaining ammo explosions even with the optional ammo explosion hits nearby units rule.

>>96552319
It's a 4v4 on two mapsheets, that's standard.

>>96552294
I didn't take enough detail to do a full one, but essentially my Lyrans had hot dice and after i blew off the Lancelot's leg with double 6 on crit and then detonated the Cyclops's LRM ammo, it was pretty much over.

>>96552346
I like them. The Cyclops survived its first ammo crit and was trying to pull back when its SRM ammo went up. Also, the Crusader I brought was the 5S, and its center torso CASE finally has a purpose, as if its SRM ammo detonates it can potentially survive to escape.

>>96552360
Guess they existed but the availability of the tech was an F so extremely rare.

>>96552391
wow, didn't even know that CT could be CASEd

>>96552558
Yeah, it's pretty weird. afaik it doesn't even save other components from the total unit destruction scrapping effect.

>>96552558
At present it can but has no actual effect. Per the new rules it actually does sonething

>>96545737
cool scheme

>>96549894
Aren't neurohelmets equipped with an internal straw to hydrate? They used to be.

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>>96552955
It was part of the vest that vent under the neurohelmet, but yes it was a thing.

How exaggerated is the sheer number of mechs you face in MW games' each mission?

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Stat them /btg/

>>96552997
There is a lot of them, but in battles of entire regiments you would see that high concentrations of mechs in one area, with mech density thinning out in favor of mixed forces the further you are from the main assault.

>>96553167
Those + the bioweapons from gothic are the kinda shit they're making on the homeworlds rn

>>96552997
Battalion on Battalion fights happen all the time and are often not even notable enough for the big picture people to even hear about them.

Company on Battalion is rarer, but a heavy or assault company with the right terrain can reasonably be expected to destroy three times their number in lights with minimal casualties.

Lance on Battalion where the lance wins is insane. Would instantly make all participants famous across all of human space, even if they never did anything notable again.

>>96553205
Homeworlds? whose Homeowlrds? the Clans?
I don't care for Jihad lore or anything that came after it so idk what post-Focht Clans are up to.

>>96552997
Depends on game and mission. Often the amount of enemies isn't exaggerated but more the lack of allies is. Typically should have more forces backing you up.
The only main exception to this is MW5 Clans which tends to under represent the amount of forces thrown at you.

>>96552997
You could fix a lot of missions by just having the enemy begin to retreat and cease spawning if you achieve your objective, and not this endless trickle of 2-3 suicidal mechs that are clearly not going to achieve anything against you.
Or by just giving you allies more often. I don't know if you ever get to fight alongside vehicles, I at least don't recall seeing it in mercenaries.
Or by having everyone suck you off as the coolest, most dangerous person in the galaxy. Kind of sucks taking out dozens of mechs and everyone's like "yeah cool good job guy, we appreciate your effort, here's fifty bucks and you can pick as many cored urbanmechs to keep as you want".

>>96553366
Damn, I must have killed like 300 mechs in Alshain and that was underrespresented? How many mechs did the Dracs have on that shithole

For how many more decades are we going to have deal with this retarded IlClan nonsense? It's honestly making it hard to feel invested in the game when the current iteration of the setting is so fucking awful. New mechs or new variant of old mechs? Who cares since they're associated with the IlClan era. 3025 and the Jihad were the only two good eras.

Fluffwise, can cenventional vehicle crews survive after their like, tank get destroyed? I don't think vehicles have ejection seats like mechs do

>>96553428
>Likes the Jihad

Amazed we still perform Lobotomies in this day & age

>>96553425
Its a little hard to say but based on the number of battalions quoted the Drac regiments were reinforced regiments so at least 320. Assuming PGI depiction where there was a local militia regiment at least taking part which actually does make logical sense for the type of world it was then at least 400 is not unreasonable if not higher.

>>96553428
*FCCW and Jihad

>>96553449
It's pretty much real life rules where a coring will kill everyone on board, but relatively often the crew will have an opportunity to bail out from a mostly wrecked machine before that really happens.

>>96553486
I've been warming up to the Jihad, if only because RotS/DA/Ilclan make it look better in comparison. I grew up reading the books set in the 4th succession war through FCCW, and playing the games set during the clan invasion/Civil War so those will always be my favorite eras by lore.

>>96552321
Booby trap is an item with its own rules, so presumably however the explosion damage rules change, the item will be updated to reflect this. The usual knock-on effects.

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>>96552797
Thank you! Nearly done now

>>96550414
MOW (meals on wheels).

>>96553486
Jihad was kind of interesting because of the Word of Blake being the Word of Blake and trying to burn everything down.

What other eras are there? Clan Invasion? Introduced the fucking Clans so it sucks. FCCW? Had too many people being retarded during the whole thing. Dark Age's? Fucking garbage. IlClan? The whole thing is the devs giving blowjobs to the Clans with the Wolves getting a bonus rimjob.

>>96554580
Best thing about Jihad is that it fleshed out Amaris Coup and gave us Reunification War content.

>>96554580
From what I see, the main problem of the Jihad is multi-faceted: first it was improvised to kill the setting and let the Dark Age in (a first strike against it), then it wasn't fleshed out and you got this schizo Devlin Stone story, then it was fleshed out in a peculiar way that the grogs didn't like, and of course you didn't get proper vidya to introduce people (MechAssault wasn't proper).
You don't have a generation that "started" with the Jihad like the the Succession Wars era, the Clan Invasion or even the Civil War, it was a thing thrown in.
Even the fact that the Blakists managed to punch the teeth out of everyone and kill a fair number of sacred cows (Fochtstar, the Goons) was a byproduct of that. Liking the Jihad is an acquired taste, learning to love the underdog with a psychotic ideology fighting to save people from themselves and the Clanners is.... a hard sell.

>>96554981
If you want to sum up the problem with the Jihad and by extension the Fed Cum Civil War, it was that they were already pushing Dark Age as a setting before even trying to wrap up those plots.

>>96555031
Didn't Dark Age predate Jihad IRL?

succession wars.

>>96555042
Think it might have actually or at least came out at same time it was mentioned. Remember there being ads for Dark Age shipped with MW4 and the first a number of people got hints about the Jihad was the very end cutscene of MW4Mercs

>>96555078
... I don't like 'em.

>>96555042
It did, the setting was stuck at the end of the fedcom civil war for irl years and then they came out with this new clix game to replace normal Battletech and it's set in the Dark Age™ and everyone's fighting with militarized dump trucks because the Republic (the who?) ended all war and took away all the mechs and the Word of Blake Jihad (the WHAT?) fucked everything up. Also the gameplay is wildly different, the scale is different, the units come in blind boxes, and forget about that nasty old 80s game, this is the new hotness that we'll be going forward with from now on.
Then when they got their heads out of their asses and started working on BT proper again, they had to backfill what this jihad thing was because they were legally obligated to not decanonize any of the dark age stuff. The jihad was a planned event even before clickytech, but it might not have been originally planned as such a devastating event and could have been just a part of a chaotic multi-war era. They wanted to do another timeskip to get past Ilclan, but then they'd end up having to backfill it again eventually so they're just going in linear time.

>>96550803
Tell me what novels, here are some that go out, mostly novelettes.

>>96555279
Field Manual: Comstar had a more.... sober version of the WoB. Always had the feeling they were going to have Focht and the Goons reconquer Earth in some kind of boring Protagonist Faction win plot.
The fact that the Jihad forced them to be absurd (psychotic cyborgs with nukes kill everyone) is almost novel for Btech standards. Imagine that outside developments forced a Smoke Jaguar win or something.

So is the best use of the Wolverines as bait to draw out the Ilclan forces at a time when they're already overstretched, leading to a collapse at home?

>>96555551
Have a Death Commando pull up a Bullshark, then have Maskirova collect DNA samples and use an agent disguised as Katrina blast it all over Alaric's bed. Then call in the Bears on a credible tip that Alaric is harboring Wolverines and even fucking one of them.

Aside from the Marauder, what's the best introtech mech that mounts an AC/5?

>>96555618
mauler?

>>96555699
Your reasoning?

>>96555618
Wolverine

>Here's the DM's secret to creating new monsters, like Kaiju.
>Take a relevant existing unit (Mech or Vehicle). Scratch out the name with a sharpie and write "Kaiju." Replace Engine with Heart, HeatSinks with Lungs, Laser with Heat Ray, and Guns and Missiles with dart/spike/osteoderm launchers.
hmm

>>96555849
maul

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>>96555920
retractable blade homebrewed as mech sized ovipositor

>>96555618
I am honestly tempted to say Emperor followed by Striker.

>>96556066
>picks mechs from the shitty TRO

Those got back filled in and aren't real introtech.

>>96556103
Still classed as introtech.
If you are going to make it 3025 or bust then basically the only answer becomes the Hunchback.

If you were a female mechwarrior of the inner sphere taken as a bondswoman, which invader clan is the most erotic?

>>96556167
Jade Falcons seem like the ones to have the crazed lesbian types. They already have the femboys.

>>96555920
>>Take a relevant existing unit (Mech or Vehicle). Scratch out the name with a sharpie and write "Kaiju."
God damn it, I KNEW IT!

>>96556167
If you want to be treated like absolute shit by a swarthy beefboy, then Smoked Jaguar is the bondtaker for you.

>>96556214
Why did they make the Jags MC in clans the whitest of white boys?

>>96556274
They thought they were making the Onions Jaguars

>>96556167
Crusader wolf probably, ladies love the knot.

>>96556167
Wolf is the white bread of getting captured by the enemy and made into a not!slave. You're in absolutely zero danger of being sexually assaulted in a way you'd enjoy, you're going to affirmatively consent to whatever they do.

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>>96556385

>>96552391
1 map sheet per 2 mechs is really the minimum.

>>96556274
Had to be believable as possible defectors somehow.

>>96556385
>>96556381
>>96556214
>>96556178
>>96556167
If an IS mechjock was captured by a Hells Horses crew, would she be the bondswoman of the vehicle commander, or the whole crew? Maybe they'd even fight over her...

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Started work on the first mevhbin a kance if vigilanties, each with their own colours, realised I just made a BTEC davion by accident. The pilot is a former rock star and reserve mech warrior from the Taurian Concordat whos dad was a Politician and CEO who found out about a plot to turn Liao refugees from a recent Davion push into slave labour and was killed along with the rest of the pilots familly, the pilot fled to the fed suns with a merc outfit and then found work with them, but leaving to join the vigilanties to fight so people can have the justice he never got

>>96556588
the horse, obviously.

>>96556588
You'll find out that Omnitrains exist.

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>>96545292
Based AS enjoyer

Can mech get pregnor?

>>96545292
what book is this?

>>96556854
AS Commander's Ed it seems

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Alright, the Battle of Timbiqui 3049 is underway! As I stated before, this will not be simulated all at once. The goal is to do at least 1 turn every day. This is a preview of how I will track movements from day to day and you can even see how each unit took their first move. Map sheets are Desert 1, 2, & 3, side by side by side creating a 47x17 hex battlefield. Obviously no combat has happened yet, as the longest range weapons are the LRMs at 21. This does give me a final chance to let all of you here weigh in about the types of rules that should be used for the game.
Generally, I think I want to try out a lot of the newer proposed rules. Here are the ones I'm currently planning to implement.
The initiative. Each time a side loses initiative, they get a cumulative +1 on their next initiative roll.
While both sides are starting with 8 units, I think I'll implement the new uneven activations rule too.
Deleting side hit location tables.
Rebalancing of kicks and punches to both be -1.
I'm going to be using the reduced ammo explosion damage rule.
I will attempt to remember all the new rules for the leg crits, which are easy enough to implement. Just a matter of if I remember when it's time.
I guess I'll try doing floating criticals as well, even though I personally don't like them.
And I think that's pretty much it for the new stuff. Now though, comes the biggest decision. Forced withdraw rules. Yay or nay? Lorewise, I'm personally in favor of them. I'm also in favor of them because I imagine it will speed up the game quite a bit. Maybe just 20 turns instead of 30 type of deal. I will hear how you all weigh in on this before making a final decision about it.

>>96556987
Will you regale us with pics of the battlefield too? I know I'd love it.
Not sure about uneven activations, haven't read up on it, but I'm against any unit twiddling thumb activators.
Forced Withdrawal makes sense, I'm okay with it.

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>>96557085
>Will you regale us with pics of the battlefield too?
Of course. This pic is the end of turn 1. Turn by turn pics will be included in the final batrep. I don't intend to give daily updates however. I think it'll go over better to just wait until it's all done at once.

>>96557085
Seconding forced withdrawal. Sticking around to fight until certain death is video game mook nonsense.

Under what circumstance would they fight until certain death?

>>96557268
When death is certain either way. Nowhere to go, no chance the other side takes prisoners.
Or if they're disciplined and have been committed to the position. Can't fall back or else the whole line collapses/world falls/invasion fails/main thrust falters. Stand and deliver.

>>96557268
Defending or attacking a capital world, head of state, or Hesperus II, or standing in the way of the Clan Invasion.

>>96557268
They're really stubborn.

>>96557336
>standing in the way of the Clan Invasion.
Typically that was less them refusing to withdraw and more them being unable to withdraw from faster opponents with superior firepower.

>>96557268
To prevent disclosure of their extra curricular activities.

>>96557413
See? Certain death.

>>96553486
Honestly, the Jihad wasn't a bad idea. It just suffered from being rushed. The Word of Blake seems cartoonishly nuts on the surface, and they mostly are, but if you think about it, there is a kind of logic to why so many people would be willing to fight for them. The Second Star League was a huge deal for the Inner Sphere after generations of near constant war and seeing it collapse into infighting so quickly definitely would have pissed off plenty of people enough to want to burn everything down.

>>96557418
Touché.

>>96557438
You might have a sliver of a point if the WoB had focused on the people actually responsible for the collapse, but they didn't.

It's also totally nonsense for the people of Earth to not be very excited about a new, more secular ComStar becoming the saviors of the sphere, but fall over themselves to do terror attacks on behalf of an esoteric mystery cult with a dozen competing factions.

>>96551137
On one hand a mech with a shit reputation like the quickdraw would be obvious, call it the Quikdraw. But on the other the description of Red Devil Industries Battlemaster plant is what I assume all quikscell factories to be like, and a normally high end luxury mech being built by quikscell would be pretty funny

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>>96557268
Whatever reason up made on the spot for the battle taking place doesn't reflect what is awaiting back at 'Home.'
Roll a D6 for each pilot at the time a forced retreat should. On a 6 what should have been a forced retreat becomes a to the death for that pilot. Add +1 to the roll if its a Drac, a Cap or Clanner.
Make it up, its a soap opera.

>>96557268
Steiner? When defeat means they'll have to eat commoner rations.

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On the opposite side, why would someone like, pirates who will be hanged anyway when captured would just surrender?

>>96557166
>the battle report guy is the weird Mormon with the ninja turtle mechs

gdi

>>96555618
Zeus 6S, although naturally the 6T is better.
Emperor 5A looks usable. Slightly undersinked.

>Swordsman SWD-2
Somehow this seems decent. I'm confused.

>>96557752
It says right there that they are facing prison time, not death.

The reason to not have blanket death sentences is so that you can accept surrenders.

>>96557760
Where's your battle report?

>>96557791
It's explicitly a problem Fronc has, because they refuse to let pirates live, the pirates respond in kind and even tried to topple the government.

>>96557850
They should just kill all pirates so nobody will be a pirate.

>>96557867
How does that solve the socio-economic conditions that create pirates in the first place?

>>96557787
>Swordsman
Lack of JJ really kills it. Too much of a sitting duck even in late Succession Wars.
It can sort of get away with it in the Reunification War era when 4/6 is considered a good speed even for a 40 tonner but the later you go it really needs some extra mobility or to be at least 5/8.

The Atlas 7-A isn't all that good but it is funny, and that's the important part.

>>96557879
Being a pirate is a choice. They are choosing to be pirates (to kill and steal) in order to, at best, elevate their standard of living but more likely because they are simply immoral people who choose to hurt others and being a pirate is the best way to do so. The other option(s) to being a pirate are to simply not be a pirate, control your violent urges, accept a lower standard of living, or find a legal and/or nonviolent means. Thus all pirates have already forfeited their lives by their own actions.

>>96557917
>control your violent urges, accept a lower standard of living, or find a legal and/or nonviolent means. Thus all pirates have already forfeited their lives by their own actions.
When you put it that way you make it sounds like these aren't pirates but the sans-culotte. I never thought of the Guillotine as a pirate mech but now I'm considering it. Thanks.

>>96557760
You're welcome to go fuck yourself anytime you like faggot.

Man I wish the kurita atlas was better

>>96558207
The Akuma?

>>96558252
I think he means the shitheap invasion upgrade with way too few heatsinks.

>>96557850
Fronc tried to hire pirates to protect them, who then took their money and tried to topple the government. Or was that Malgrotta?

>>96558264
That was definitely not Fronc. Fronc had a semi-elite military-police force from the start and always hated pirates even before they were independent. Fronc even has problems with questionable mercs, they do background checks and won't hire mercs with criminal records or who have done dirty work before.

>>96558293
>My brain read Fronc as Filtvelt
I need either more or less whiskey.

>>96558341
It was probably Malgrotta then, since it's also not Filtvelt. They co-opted the AFFS units in their space and then got a heavy duty mercenary unit to transfer in permanently.

>>96558252
Nah the AS7-K, it's almost there I want to like it so much but 20 shs just don't cut it. I like the Akuma for what it is, although I do wish the variants were shuffled around slightly so I could get a jumping one with the AC10 ERPPC combo instead of an AC20, and maybe more c3 slaves

>>96558412
I'm looking forward to the Kurita Command Lance pack. Going to strip ny Kurita Atlas and send it to my merc collection, replace it with the Akuma.

>>96557166
Honestly when I see mechs painted like this, I need to ask, is this the best you can do? The best you're willing to do? Like on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the best paint job you've ever seen on a mech, how would you rate your paint jobs?

>>96558481
>Honestly when I see posts like this, I need to ask, is this the best you can do? The best you're willing to do? Like on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the best postyou've ever seen on a 4chan, how would you rate your post?

>>96558506
Is that your answer? You're just trolling by painting them in that manner?

>>96558440
>late Dec
god I can't wait I need my newer Dragon now

>>96556854
ALPHA STRIKING

Guys, should I grab a BattleMat Grasslands/Desert, or Map pack Grasslands/Map pack Deserts?

>>96558653
BOTH. Fool!

>>96558653
If it's one or the other get the paper maps. That way you can turn them or combine them with other maps for variation. The mats are just the same terrain configuration forever.

>>96558622
I pre-ordered the Ranger Lance. I can't wait for the email that begins, "due to unforseen tariff issues..."

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Blake and Toyama just kill me

>>96558481
If your response to seeing a painted board of minis regardless of quality isn't
>Hell yeah good for you guys, enjoy the hobby
You're probably a nogames faggot

>>96558659
>Just mindlessly CONSOOM
>>96558653
Get the map packs, they're significantly more versatile and customizable.

>>96558712
>Due to entirely foreseeable greed, we have decided to raise prices across the entire product line.
>We're still not going to pay freelancers.

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>>96558806
Very rarely we get some jobs in here and I see them in the wild that really the painter could use some help; but I know better than to throw stones in my glass house. I say anything is better than bare plastic; and while it's true sometimes the best thing you can do for a model is strip it and try again, as long as you like em and they look nice at table height I ain't got shit to say unless they're asking for me to say it.

Just remember to prime, paint and seal and if you're not going to base with terrain, clean it up when you're done a nice and even solid color.

>>96558481
When i first started playing this game all my guys where the grey tide kinda of mechs.

But I come to play Battletech for the game and not the painting.