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Dragon Edition

>Community Links:
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>Previous Thread:
>>96585577

>thread question:
What kind of xenos do you wish GW would add into 40k? Even if just as a small thing in Necromunda or in KT
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I just farted
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non-Imperial factions in order of how much they need a Starter faction sized update.

Dark Eldar
Harlequins
World Eaters
Eldar (if introducing Exodites)
Emperor's Children
Orks
Thousand Sons
Tau
Eldar (if not introducing Exodites)
Votann
CSM
GSC
Death Guard
Necrons
Tyranids
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>>96587789
Based
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>>96587781
>TQ
EXODITES
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>>96587794
dark eldar are not starter material
harlequins aren't a faction
eldar aren't starter material
emperor children aren't starter material
tau aren't starter material
votann aren't starter material
CSM don't need another starter
Death Guard don't need another starter
Necrons don't need another starter
Tyranids don't need another starter
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Post some models I guess.
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>>96587824
>CSM don't need another starter
>Death Guard don't need another starter
>Necrons don't need another starter
>Tyranids don't need another starter
yeah that's why they're on the bottom of the list.
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>>96587824
GENESTEALER CULTS BROS OUR TIME IS NOW
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>62,50$ for pic related
>next month 65$
>for this small lonely thin sprue
Sometimes I wonder "What the fuck?"
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>>96587838
can't wait for 600pt of marines vs 150 points of gsc that still manage to outnumber the marines
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>>96587838
I'm sorry bro
genestealers aren't a faction
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>>96587841
welcome to warhammer
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>>96587847

Are Imperial Agents a faction?
How likely is it that Breachers/Voidmen/Rogue Traders will even exist in the next edition?
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>>96587781
>TQ
Old Ones, and if GW ever adds them they should be like dragons in DnD.
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listening to High Kahl's Oath and the opening kinda rocks with the plunder of bioship going wrong, only then on deposit to get hit with realisation that technically they're just like nids, processing all the biomass
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>>96587841
>and it's push-shit
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>>96587838
I am happy with out current range
Maybe a few units that stray from the mining theme, finally give us that limousine to carry a fat patriarch who gives it tank stats with his psychic might.
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>>96587794
Orks don’t need one but we will take it anyway. Outta my way gitz!
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>>96587863
No
Still likely for now
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>>96587826
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>>96587781
>tq
These dudes so I don't start kitbashing one out of a mega gargant yo run as a knight and eventually anime titty statues
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>>96587826
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>>96587815
look at all these drakes from dungeons and dragons.
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>>96587824
>Dark Eldar are not starter material
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>>96587933
You forgot one
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>>96587941
Not a dragon.
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Evening /40kg/, doing my semi-annual checkup
Are there any indications of exodites coming to 40k in the foreseeable future?
Appreciate it
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>>96587826
Cockpit postan
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>>96587939
times changed, what could be starter material then is not necessarily starter material now.
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>>96587943
nyo
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>>96587942
it's explicitly called a dragon
this one is a dragon too
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>>96587933
You forgot the best dragon they ever sculpted
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>>96587954
so is this one
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>>96587954
>explicitly called a dragon
GW also explicitly called it not a dragon when they revealed its replacement.
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>>96587956
>>96587960
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>>96587916
there's no way these are xenos. They look like Iron Warriors daemons
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>>96587781
Is time for the Great Revolushuun!
Gitz are more charismatic than Orks anyway, give them their time to shine!!
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>>96587970
I don't care what they are, they're sick
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1-3 I work on my Salamanders.
4-6 I work on my Ulthwe Eldar.
7-9 I work on my homebrew CSM.
0 I work on my 30k IW instead.
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>>96587956
>>96587960
I blame Peter Jackson for this. Tolkien explicitly drew Smaug as a dragon.
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>>96587964
No, they didn't, they said the profile could also be used to represent a number of other similar draconic beasts, but also that it is a zombie dragon and it has been a zombie dragon since 2008
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>>96587975
Neat, post pics of your elfs before you go
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>>96587981
both depictions are that of a dragon, and so is this
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>>96587948
Bummer
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>>96587981
That smaug model is rad whether it looks like the original art or not, you can at least give it that surely. It's also fuckxboxhueg
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>>96587824
>harlequins aren't a faction
...but they should be.
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>>96587943
No but the new lizardmen mounts are so good that you could make and insanely cool exodites army easily and just run the dinos as jetbikes
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Do Sisters of Silence Prosecutor Cadre (the dual pistols) have rules in 40k?
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>>96587987
It'll be just assembly today, but I'll take a picture of what I build for sure.
It's a project I've been putting off for a while for reasons unknown to me.
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>>96588001
not really. As much as agents do.
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>>96588009
They might have a legends datasheet. I'd imagine they're with the custodes stuff
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>>96587971
Goblins got done so dirty in 40K. Fantasy had them getting shit done, going in massive swarms and catapulting themselves by their own volition, and some of them would serve as advisors and nearing equals to the orc warboss. In 40K there isn’t a single grot willing to voluntarily stab a git that isn’t already half dead, and even the “highest” grot is still below the weakest, and dumbest boy.
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>>96588001
Nah, they work well with the small roster they have and as add-ons to the 2 eldar armies, bloating it with a bunch of redundant options would be lame.
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>>96588009
no, not even legends, you run them as regular prosecutors.
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>>96588013
>Litteraly a mish-mash of random nonsense is being compared to a race with a unique culture and army tactics.
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>>96588001

In Kill Team maybe. As a full 40k army they're no more appropriate than the Inquisition or Kroot.
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>>96588017
I'm sure gw will do an all gretchen kill team at some point and repackage them as a 40k unit ala mandrake and vespids and literally everything else. They'd be perfect cause you can give them all sorts of kooky guns in kt but trim it back for 40k
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>>96588037
The inquisition has three armies.
>Kroot
I don't see how they aren't worse than Votann
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>>96587942
the wyvern is literally just a kind of dragon that was arbitrarily split off from the others so rules writers could pad monster manuals with more statlines
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>>96587794
>>96587824
>>96587831
All wrong, necrons need more stuff
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So Deldar and Space Marines this week?
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As a community we need to mock bad terrain and esports obj markers more. Standards are so low.
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>>96587781
>TQ
I want a xenos bounty hunter kill team of all sorts of the weird barely mentioned xenos species.
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>>96587824
>emperor children aren't starter material
if they want to give chaos fanboys confidence that this faction has any future, they should put them as the starter update so we can actually expect that they'll get the same love as deathguard, and not a half ass army that goes one character every edition like with 1ksons and world eaters

but i get how they're also not the most "marketable" faction
world eaters would be good, perfectly "marketable" faction with a lot of fans already
1ksons could be good, able to synergize with SM2 like the nids did. that game is still pretty relevant. but i don't see it happening with how little attention they get as is
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>>96588028
Ah dangit. Thanks anon.
I wanted to double dip between 40k and HH but of course that wouldn't be possible.
Will we ever get a new kit?
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This is what the void dragon is based on. Aren’t you tired of having the same conversation again?
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>>96588086
Post your regular gaming table and the terrain you play on.
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>>96588101
they will get more than one character next time, but it won't be a starter treatment
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Did that anon who spilled glue on the carpet manage to get the carpet tile swapped out?
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a starter box needs two things
marines, and a horde army
they want horde armies so your horde army player will always be happy to take the units from every friend that is trying to get into 40k for the marines
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Good morning peeps, I changed all the air filters in the house and cleaned for the week and now I am ready to talk and paint Warhammer! AWOOOOO! Also lets go Chiefs!!!!
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>>96587781
>What kind of xenos do you wish GW would add into 40k?
Actual Greys
Tau are blue and without psychic powers so they don't count
Meme easter egg Gretchin model doesn't count either
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>>96588107
>Do you see, 40kg?
>Yes
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>>96588118
Welcome back bro!
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>>96588086
As a community we need to mock killa kans without baggy pants and cool sneakers more. Standards are so low.
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>>96588105
>Will we ever get a new kit?
In HH
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>>96588107
No wonder the model looks like shit then.
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>>96588111
So you samefagged something from the last thread because the dragon talk is over now.
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>>96588101
>if they want to give chaos fanboys confidence that this faction has any future
it doesn't lmao
even less popular than WE/TS and their even more anemic range proves it
you'll get one pity character in 3 years with 11th
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>>96588119
You already know in your earth that a grots expansion could perfectly capture the appeal of greys.
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>>96588118
wow this spread is such a good counter-argument to people saying 3d printed bits look good
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>>96588107
>Aren’t you tired of having the same conversation again?
This entire general just talks about the same stuff. Today it was dragons, tomorrow it will probably go back to arguing over certain model posters in this general.
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>>96587824
Traitor Guard!!!!
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>>96588128
You’ve been trying this joke for months and it’s never funny.
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>>96588144
That’s just you because this place is all you have left. Get a life/take your own life already. See>>96588150
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>>96588140
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>>96588150
>archivefag
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Deldar
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wdmije41/sunday-preview-the-drukhari-sharpen-their-blades-in-anticipation/
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>>96587987
>m.jpg
Dude dont shame this gal with your pathetic pic
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>>96588118
Awoo with me brother!
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>>96588155
exactly!
we can have goblinoid greyskins being openly spurned by normal greenskins and in turn hating normal greenskinned orks, interacting mainly with the grot revolutionaries or via deals with weird warbosses
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>>96588133
No I was asking cause I thought it was funny and was thinking last night before bed that if he was having a hard time getting the tiles off that maybe laying a towel down and putting an iron over it could help them let go.
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>>96588161
At least there was one decent release
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>>96587943
no, although Valrak says it's happening at some point in the future, starting with a Kill Team
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>>96588150
It starts getting funnier when you notice he only replies to people posting daydreaming bullshit
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>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wdmije41/sunday-preview-the-drukhari-sharpen-their-blades-in-anticipation/
>There’s also a fairly weighty reveal on Monday, which is currently prepping for a speedy arrival in the hallowed halls of a battle barge high in orbit…
Either the rumoured multipart Outriders or new Speeders.
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>>96588161
>wracks are finally a ten pack
If I wouldn’t just print them I’d care
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>>96587975
elfs stay winning
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>>96587826
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>>96588189
its cool till you remember that you're not even getting 300 points in this box
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>>96588205
Really like the proportions on this guy
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>>96588189
oh damn they dropped that quick. Guess they had to get it out of the way before they release the box people actually want
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>>96587841
In real monry or dollaridoos?
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>>96588144
>arguing over certain model posters in this general
I wish they were at least talking about the good modelposters and not the obnoxious attentionwhores
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So are 40k releases done for the year now? Is there anything left?
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>>96588209
Nigga that's a good thang
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>>96588225
lol
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>>96588225
if you mean announcements there is the christmass sludge of battleforces but that will be announced on tourney in october or november, alongside maybe the news of end-of-edition campaign
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>>96588225
reveal on Monday for something 40k related
> There’s also a fairly weighty reveal on Monday, which is currently prepping for a speedy arrival in the hallowed halls of a battle barge high in orbit…
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>>96588225
Lmao even
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>>96588225
the new ultramarines stuff is still coming. I don't remember if the new whitescars box is out yet but if not that as well. clowns probably next week. christmas boxes announced soonTM
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>>96588213
I like him better than the GW one
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>>96588242
This is by far the best contrast painted model in this thread, good job anon.
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>>96588209
oh shit it's 295 points. And it was announced alongside the Harlequin box, which is a minimum 515.

If they want to make Combat Patrol a popular game mode like Spearhead is, they need to figure this shit out.
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>>96588248
AoS spearheads are all over the place in terms of points too anon. GW just balanced the game better.
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>>96587826
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>>96588248
>If they want to make Combat Patrol a popular game mode
not even slightly
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>>96588248
spearhead has a lot of focus behind it because they actually need to use it to get people into the game
combat patrols are used to get rid of excessive stock for lesser factions, or be made into things that can be bought multiple times
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>>96588260
Yeh but Spears are still twice the amount of points as 40k boxes, so it feals less like a scam, even if it it the lamer one
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>>96588246
this was not funny when you first posted it and it's not funny now, retard
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>>96587781
>TQ
Here's my pitch: Alien Bird people that are honor-bound hunters (Think Predators) who's faction gimmick is fast deep strikers. Think stuff like Jet pack wings, infiltrators, and actually playable fliers. Give them a faction rule where the army gets a small buff whenever a unit on an objective is taken off the board but drops when you lose one of your units. Lore-wise have them associated with the Votann (Tech trading) and Tau (They want them bad as auxiliaries but the birds are too wise for that shit).
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>traitor Salamanders complementing their Melanchromic mutation with kintsugi-style gilding of their scars
Kind of a cool idea that I sorta wanna try now.
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>>96588300
>kroot but contrarian
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>>96588260
The minimum is a LOT higher. I know AoS has higher points cost generally, but almost every Spearhead gets you a quarter of a full army.

With CPs you have a lot that are around the 500 mark, and then a bunch that aren't even scraping 400. That's going to cause balancing problems. Especially with their new apparent paradigm of not having a centerpiece damage dealer, which puts non-powered armor armies at a disadvantage against powered armor armies
>>96588269
Spearheard has been so popular in AoS I guarantee you item 1 on their goals for 11th was "make Combat Patrol work"
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>>96588309
Yes
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>>96588300
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>>96588300
...so you just want winged Kroot?
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>>96588248
"Combat Patrol" is just "start collecting" with some extra steps. It's not meant to be It's own game in all sincerity. The Krieg box is good because of its model content, as it contains everything except the engineers and the marvel hero
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>>96588118
Now all that's left to do for you is tie a noose from a rafter and go meet the great wolf in the sky!
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dark eldar refresh never ever...
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>>96588324
>"Combat Patrol" is just "start collecting" with some extra steps. It's not meant to be It's own game in all sincerity.
It's going to be. Spearhead was too popular, they are going to try to replicate that in the next edition. At this point they should be designing the Combat Patrol sets to work with the new Combat Patrol game rules, and the crazy lopsidedness of the Krieg and the Harlequins make me think they haven't nailed it
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>>96588118
kind of a stretch to call basecoat + messy wash "painting"
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>>96587781
i just want something for tau auxiliaries, something like quadrupedial crab/marine alien to hold the line in melee (altho at the same time i'd be fine with just letting in some votann mercs too)
outside of that i'd take anything that isn't human+gimmick or bug
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painter friends how do i avoid getting my paint on the model like picrel ? should i thin it more or is this a "i need to paint better" issue ?
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>>96588297
I praised your contrast painting skills. Just take the praise without complaint contrast-anon.
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>>96588357
carnac you suck
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>>96588357
Use tape?
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This is a pretty nice Combat Patrol. Drukhari bros are eating good.
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>>96588357
use masking tape/silly putty on contact points you don't want primer/paint going on
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>>96588161
Wracks finally being sold in boxes of 10 is frankly an insult at this point. What, are they going to charge double the price now, too? They didn't even have the decency to give us a damn upgrade sprue for them. And grotesques are gone!
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>>96588358
kill yourself immediately
>>96588364
that's not a combat patrol lmao
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>>96588364
That's a battleforce.
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>>96588315
>>96588260
There's a neat video of the former GW employee that designed Spearhead talking about his ideas behind the game.

https://youtu.be/Ywc6oXKpJe0?si=ikcLzJ5LpJqeAk5l
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>>96588364
thats the battleforce box, this is their combat patrol i'm not sure if its a good one but its defiantly worse than their last one but not many things could've been better than that
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>>96588357
I dont quite understand what the problem is
Do you mean not getting it on other bits of the model? Use masking tape or just keep practicing and you will have better control
If you mean the patchyness the metal has, that's just from thinning it and is normal, do a second thin coat and it will look solid.
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>>96588360
carnac ? idk what that means.....

>>96588361
how would tape help me for the circular shaped pieces ? im trying to get a nice even coat over the whole piece but it like bunches and and looks splotchy

>>96588365
>putty
thats so obvious and genius im surprised i didn't think of it ! thanks anon !!
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>>96588300
that's just kroots
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>no ork reveals
Worst Orktober ever
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>>96588378
>if you mean the patchyness the metal has, that's just from thinning it and is normal, do a second thin coat and it will look solid.

i did thanks ! im new to thinning my paints and was worried i used too much ty !
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>>96588381
>carnac ? idk what that means.....
it means that anon is a schizo and thinks you're someone else, ignore him
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>>96588388
Oh, i'm glad that's what it was!
Some paints take two or three coats, some can be more. It really depends on the paint
Building up thin coats like that instead of a thick one really helps keep detail sharp
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Is Artel W good?
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>>96587781
>TQ
Someone with this energy
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>>96588260
>uhhh yeah just have your centrepiece come on the board at like turn 3
Half of the balance issues get fixed by this one simple trick.
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>>96588377
I mean obviously it is a worse discount than the last one, but this is the first ever Covens discount box which is nice as someone who already has loads of Kabs/Wyches
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>>96588370
Why are you so mad? You are a good contrast painter? What gives? Why so hostile?
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>>96587826
The cloning of the head could have gone better, might redo it later. Still pretty happy with him.
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>>96588453
The original kitbash
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>>96588408
I like some of their stuff and dislike some (eldar stuff feels too protossy for me)
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Been watching some gameplay recently and Tau are looking fun...
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>>96588408
it depends on what you're after
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I've been out of the hobby since around 6th edition, got rid of my collection a long time ago. Lately I've been feeling the itch and wanted to get back in, nothing crazy, just some marines to paint, maybe a little hobby-modeling, do some "my dudes" fan-fictioning - the good stuff.
I went on the online store to look at buying some kits but I'm seeing, all kinds of different Marines I don't know what I should be getting anymore. I know a lot of this is run-off from the Primaris hooplah but I have no frame of reference for what are normal units and what aren't and I've been seeing some stuff while doing a little research that the next edition is coming soonish and Primaris is getting phased out?

/tg/ what the hell am I supposed to buy? Are these Primaris kits being squatted? Are tactical squads dinosaur units? What the fuck is going on?
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>>96588496
Primaris is the trademarkable name for the modern sculpts of marines. The units aren't going away.
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>>96588496
The general gist of the current rumor mill is
>Last remains of firstborn marines are getting Primaris-version kits (Assault Terminators and Tactical Squads)
>Since everything is "Primaris" they can just drop the word from all the boxes and just say "Space Marine Intercessors" instead of "Space Marine Primaris Intercessors" or what have you.

They just want to clean up the wording on the boxes and whatnot. You'll be fine picking up any of the Combat Patrol boxes, I strongly doubt anything from those will be going to Legends any time soon (Except maybe those shitty turrets in the Iron Hands box no one ever uses).
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>>96588496
>Lately I've been feeling the itch and wanted to get back in
Recommendation: don't
>what the hell am I supposed to buy?
Nothing.
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>>96588496
>/tg/ what the hell am I supposed to buy?
the box of 10 marines that looks coolest to you
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>>96588496
>the next edition is coming soonish and Primaris is getting phased out?
Next edition might make primaris tacticals or some shit like that but primaris are here to stay and the shorter marines are on the wat out.
Normal units aren't really a thing anymore either, in practical terms you can make an army of only dreadnoughts, or spamming whatever type of unit you want with no real limitations of a force organisation chart.
Closest thing to the basic units are units whose datasheet include the "battleline" keyword, making them good at holding objectives, in a primaris marine army that's the 3 types of intercessors.

Considering the cost of entry nowadays, I'd either grab a kill team so you have a painting project with enough bits to make the various dudes different, or a bundle box, like a combat patrol or one of the battleforces they release around christmas, or one half of the starter set.
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>>96588496
>thinly veiled primaris vs firstborn shitpost
I commend you for typing all this shit just for a bait but you should kill yourself anyway
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So essentially the real advantage of the Tau is that they embody the idea that 'logistics win wars'?
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>>96588542
Thanks this all really helps me find footing, it sounds like >>96588540 is the best path forward for what I want to do so I'll do that. It's interesting that the force-org is out. Looks like I really will have to read the codices and can't rely on past experience to intuit thing.

Thank you for giving me a birds eye view of the situation.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>96588576
kek good one
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>>96588559
Not really, they have bureaucratic issues as well. Everything a Tau can do is determined by their caste. Water caste Tau can't even commit violence in self defense due to how strongly ingrained the Ethereal brainwashing is. Fire warriors can't perform anything other than the most minor maintenance on their equipment, and so on. It's not nearly as bad as the worst excesses of imperial bureaucracy but they're not always the most practical.
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>>96588561
>It's interesting that the force-org is out.
"Interesting" is one way of phrasing it.
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>>96587826
rebosting
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>>96588357
So that actually looks like a tiny bit too much water. Metallics are kinda fussy about thinning but it looks like that would be perfect with one more coat. If you can still see the dark undercoat after doing a coat just let that one dry and hit it again



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