Major League Swagout edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96615995>TQWhat was your favorite tribe in the original Lorwyn/Shadowmoor block?
this and the chocobo boxes are gonna bleed me of like $300
>avengers>star trekI sure love all my cards being guys in spandex
Kithkin, I love the little melon-heads
Peak magic!
It's over
Books are back, Commander Players!
>>96623073
This is 2026 of your favorite TCG.Is fucking over.
>>96623086You guys like chandra doing gay shit on a campus, right!?
It makes me sick, motherfucker, how far we done fell.
Hey, commander players! We hear you, here are the 2 60 cards deck for 2026. But don't worry, we will still have 20 commander decks for the year
I still don't see the appeal of commander
>>96623107
At least in the rpg we can make things less gay and make Lorwyn great again.
>>96623049Magic as Richard Garfield intended
Anyway, Lorwyn Planeswalker's Guide.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/planeswalkers-guide-to-lorwyn-eclipsed >The plane is technically called Lorwyn-Shadowmoor now, because aspects of both co-exist now, and people are both Lorwyn and Shadowmoor sometimes>Lorwyn is idyllic and pretty, hamlets and whatnot, Shadowmoor sucks ass but has a lot of magic running around>Basically there's now auroras that just happen in certain areas, shifting between Lorwyn and Shadowmoor on a smaller scale than the Great Aurora>Lorwyn is still always day, Shadowmoor is still always night, even when they're right next to each otherThere's more but honestly I'm not interested in summing it all up for you assholes. Read.
qt snapcaster
>>96623064you deserve it
>Superheroes>LOTR>Stark Trek>Stupid ninja turtles>7 sets a yearIs a good time to leave this game right?
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/everything-announced-for-magic-the-gathering-in-2026 Apparently 7 sets is not the norm, there'll be just 6 again in 2027. Probably a result of some weird fuck-ups with scheduling due to UB sets becoming legal.
>Hobbit set
>Now, you can join a cohort of Strixhaven students on their journey through this pastoral plane.Why put humans in Lorwyn
>>96623145the best
>>96623150I don't fucking care about their fuck up 6 sets was not even the norm a year ago and now we are going with 7? Suck my fucking balls greedy bastards.
Where are the fucking faggot FIRE design Elves that will make them Modern relevant again ffs
Let me guess, Changelings lookes like real people and thus were micro agressions, so they updated the design...
>>96623127ftfy
Fuck does this symbol mean, it's associated with Reality Fracture on the article about the announcements.
Literally selling sex.
>TMNT>Marvel>Hobbit but doesn't resemble it>Star Trek>Only 3 in universe MTG setsYeah, MtG is likely fucking dead. Fingers crossed all 4 bomb hard that UB is pushed harder or is abandoned.
Reality Fracture will be paper reprints of Through the Omenpaths 1&2.Screencap this.
they're gonna niggerfy picard
>>96623170just put TMNT in thereit's all but confirmed
Well, at least the kithkin art is good.
>>96623127It’s actually fucking over
>>96623193What?
>>96623172Kaladesh-y set symbol thing here, probably Chandra's mom dies or some shit.
>>96623177>bitterblossom that dies to fatal push
>>96623187huh?
>>96623172Considering it's "a villain you'll have to see to believe" with apparently years of behind-the-scenes stuff, it's gotta be _____
I'm cautiously optimist about Lorwyn. It seems they didn't totally fuck up the only set I have interest next year.
>>96623108>seanan mcguireI'd try it out at least
>7 seven, siete, nana, sette, sept sets a year>4 UB sets 3 In-Universe sets>Stupid shit like MARVEL or SPOCK legal across all formatsWell... This is more than i can stomach. I will go on until Lorwyn and then goodbye.
>>96623213It seems like the only good set, at least the card art looks fun so far
>>96623207loot
Nobody posted this spoiler.>>96623203>Chandra didn't looked Indian enoughwotc should just write that she was gang raped...
>>96623108This isn't Chandra. This is just a different set of students, apparently, and likely not quite connected to the main set's story.
>>96623213PFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>96623159Will this be like Duskmourn where everything about the set is cool except the humans
>hallowed fountain will be standard legal until 2029bonkers
>3 magic sets>4 UB setsFuck this.
>>96623159Because Omenpaths, and judging by the Strixhaven key art the group don't seem to have any humans anyway.
I hope we see Jack in the set too.
>>96623127>Star TrekHow did we know.
Lorwyn so far looks normal. What are the genuine odds this ends up selling more than the rest of 2026's sets?
>>96623236I don't see non-chandra in here >>96623253
A reminder that they created EoE so Star Trek wouldn't stand out like the sore fucking thumb that it is.
>Seven fucking sets>>>Seven fucking sets
>>96623139Rhys is still alive but only because he's bound to Maralen, to kill her if Oona's to return, and then die himself.
>>96623261Is the confirmed schedule anon-kun. It's so over there is nothing more to say. 2026 is worse than this year.
>>96623269Yeah, the novel is, to my understanding, separate entirely from the main set's story, it's just a standalone thing in Strixhaven.
>>96623159i remember an article way back where they said they wouldnt return to lorwyn because it had no humans so people couldnt self insert into the story or something like that
>>96623261Nickelodeon and Star Trek are both owned by Paramount they probably negotiated a package deal
>>96623264Very high considering it also has reversible borderless shocklands. The reveals also had optimistic early impressions especially after spooderman
>>96623285I used to meme on Star Trek UB as among the bottom of the barrel stupidest ideas they could do.They're really just dedicated to doing the lamest, dumbest most cringe shit possible aren't they?
>>96623253this looks so bad
>>96623299honest question as a Start Trek enjoyer, not not nuTrek why is Trek worse than Spiderman or Fallout just as an example. Not fighting just curious on the specific trek hate
>>96623253As if anybody doubted MTG's art direction was the worst in the world.
>Don't worry guys 6 sets a year is not the norm! We are just testing the waters this year because some schedule fuck up! >Don't worry guys 7 sets a year is not the norm! We are just fucked up the schedule again!------>You are here>Don't worry guys 12 sets a year is not the norm! But due to huge demand and some fuck up schedule we are doing a set each month :D!This game is fucking cooked.
7 RELEASES MORE THAN ONCE EVERY OTHER MONTHTHE ETERNAL SPOILER SEASON
>>96623108that's kasmina you fucking poser
>>96623213what pisses me off the most about this is that, as evidenced by bloomburrow and now lorwyn, they are still entirely capable of doing cool fantasy but they just choose not to. the handful of new lorwyn cards look fine in terms of art
HeHe funny cock rider
>>96623314>honest question as a Start Trek enjoyer, not not nuTrek why is Trek worse than SpidermannuTrek is mostly the reason. But, from my perspective, Trek has an insular culture. It's "part" of nerd culture, but it's very much its own thing. And within Trek subculture isn't not cringe, celebrate what you like, but from the outside it is very cringe.It's not that Star Trek is bad (I'd be fine agreeing that it's one of the greatest series of all time pre-nuTrek), it's that bringing Trekkie culture into your IP means an influx of that kind of culture. Basically, Trekkies managed to gatekeep their show by being the biggest fucking unapologetic cringelord nerds in the galaxy. And that's a good thing. For them.It is not a good thing for anyone else.
this game is shitSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
WE WILL CONTINUE PRINTING MORE AND MORE SETS UNTIL THE BOTTOM FALLS OFF THIS FUCKING GAME ARE WE CLEAR?
>>96623336This look cool
>>96623216That was me until Tarkir. Haven't played since then (except for one draft run of EoE)
>>96623295What am I missing
My guess for why it's 7 sets is because of Spider-Man being made into a bigger set. Originally it was gonna release as a 100 card set that didn't take up a 'release slot', similar to Assassin's Creed, but them making it a 'proper set' meant it had to have its time, so they pushed Avatar and Lorwyn forward, and everything in 2026 got fucked as a result and probably some UB sets had hard restrictions on when they could release so they couldn't change their release dates too much.If they go back to 6 sets for 2027, that'll be my assumption as to what the fuck happened.
>>96623296>The reveals also had optimistic early impressions especially after spoodermanDid Spiderman flop? Or not selling well?
Giants are not misshapen anymore?
Cool ass
>>96623364>Lorwyn Eclipsed so far looks like actual MtG while Secrets of Strixhaven looks like modern DnDWHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?
Here's a fucked up thing.
>>96623386can't have thatit's a microaggression against the "aesthetically different"
>>96623384Prices are crashing for it, LGS in my area have difficulty selling product, and best of all, scalpers are getting fucked with the Collector Boxes.
What's now the mental gymnastics to justify 7 sets a year more Universe Beyond than actual Magic products and more than 1 set each 2 months? Can someone that is willing to cope with this answer me why?
>>96623401So Noggles are getting re-typed to Horse, right?
>The kithkins beat phyrexia with the power of racismI thought wotc was woke..
>>96623404If even a single card from this cycle is playable, it's going to be a nightmare.
>>96623411>Scalpers are getting fucked.Good. Fuck 'em.
>>96623404I like the art.
>>96623422why?
>>96623364me sneaking into mark rosewater's house via the sewage system
>>96623415Apparently it's a scheduling quirk, and they've SAID they're going back to 6 sets the year after, but... No real explanation as to how 7 ended up happening.
Inb4 first interracial kiss shown on TV gets a card.
>>96623430Hyper-optimization of choice. A card that does everything streamlines decklists and stagnates the game. When every deck always has every answer to every problem, since every card does everything, the game ceases to be.
>>96623374Lorwyn, Shadowmoor, Eventide and Morningtide are the name of the sets of the original Lorwyn-Shadowmoor blocks.
>>96623451i'm clapping
>>96623127So only one real set?HAHAHAHAHHAFuck this game
>>96623440Its the spiderman set being emergency pushed as a standard set. Remember, Avatar was supposed to be /this/ year
Maro is saying that 2027 will for sure be back to the 50/50. Time will tell.
>>96623295And then everybody clapped.
>>96623415Only the most cucked faggots and retarded Cummander zombies will actually accept this. Me as a customer will buy and enjoy Lorwyn and actually forget about the rest of these awful year. FUCK JOTC. FUCK UB. FUCK FORNITIZATION OF THE GAME.
>>96623468it still is tho?
>>96623468>avatarMeant lorwyn
>>96623468...Avatar still is this year. Do you mean Lorwyn?
>>96623443It's not particularly efficient. Charms/modal spells haven't caused nightmare situations.
>>96623357Trek is about technology meshing up against things in the universe that has yet to be understood. It isn't about casting fireballs, spell slinging and creatures born of mana. There is no cross-over at all (other than the "we like money" crossover).WotC is wrong in their approach - Magic isn't a framework which can be used to express any setting or world. At this point it is crystal clear that UBs exist because they wanted 6+ products a year and had no way to do this with their own processes / characters / settings / etc. UB is just carte blanche for "quick design wins". Absolute full mask off, today.
>>96623472>"This is an atypical year">"We won't be printing mechanically unique Universes Beyond cards.">"Universes Beyond will not be part of Standard."The list goes on.Lies, lies, lies, then excuses.
>let youtubers ban whatever they want, how could this possibly be abused
Fuck it, I'm going to WarhammerDropping this shit game
>>96623472Oh yeah Mark, the greatest liar of our time, surely no reason to doubt him!
Lorwyn has been lore-raped. It has never been more over than it is now.
>>96623506Me on the right.
>>96623501lmao...wait no, I like legacy
>nog kithkinsthey just couldn't help themselves could they
>>96623472
i honestly dont understand how people arent tired of capeshit yet
>>96623526That is they crazy part - they absolutely are.
>only 3 sets next yearwhat a fucking sigh of relief!Finally they listen!
>>96623526spiderman floped for a reason
"oh surely the hobbit has exactly as much material for adaptation as lotr" - wotc, following in peter jackson's footsteps that lead directly off a cliff
>>96623472>atipical year>until next year hahaMark suck my balls you disgusting kike.
Also Lorwyn's got a serialised card with Rebecca Guay art.
Last straw.I am not going to share a space with fucking trekkies.
>>96623529>$15k soul stone card says otherwise in your path
>>96623535they do not care, they will print 10 different faggot hobbits and call it a day
>>96623535there's plenty of material for a full set, just not a set that's 50% legendary creatures. But that's fine.
>>96623526Me personally I just don't care about the MCU and that suits me fine. I like some comics.
>>96623529Marvel rivals says otherwise. There isn't a pre-Endgame amount of following but there is definitely not fatigue. Sometimes.
>>96623526I kept saying this when FF came out, theyre going to chase that peak with all these UB collabs but will never reach that all-time high again because Final Fantasy is an extremely special case where it has widespread pop culture appeal in the east and west, and have a fanbase that is both willing and able to spend more money than usual. The mahvel set will flop at worst and will do "OK" at best
you guys ready for the Hobbit to introduce a fucking barrel as a vehicle?
i wish UB actually expanded on the source material and its world and maybe even told some original stories instead of just being a parade of references
>>96623127this is fake made up right? please tell me this is not real...
>>96623545For the last time, anon - what a collector (read: "investor") will buy has no bearing on the mass market of customers.
I get why they pushed Lorwyn to next yearDo you still remember that? It was supposed to come out this year in November.Imagine if insteda of Lorwyn it was Avatar, another fucking UB set next year6 out of 7 sets would be UBThey are fucking retarded
Help me out here, how do you approach girls during card game events? They are rarely found without male companions and they always look at me with daggers in their eyes when I try to approach their women, or generally they look at me that way because I guess I look normal. Anyway the hotter ones are almost always excusively with big groups of wierd hairy men. Its not like the girls are in relationship with these dudes, or got a chance, but they act like they are the next in line. During a bigger local event there was this skinny goth goddess girl with a bunch of hairy cavemen. They looked like court jesters trying to impress their queen. Miserable sight. So this girl was giving me the eyes every time I looked away. She just couldnt stop staring at me and vice versa. So I gathered all my courage and approached, but my worst fear came to life. The 4-5 hairy neckbeard troglodytes catched on the lil thing we had going on and as soon as I got close the fattest and stinkiest neckbeard roared me 'WHAT YOU WANT'. It took me a moment to gather my thoughts, and I admit I wasnt on top of my game, so I looked at the girl and said: 'Goth Lady Goddess thank you for blessing us with your presence'. I think my voice was cracking and I got a bloodrush, I just turned around and ran away. I think I heard them laughing. Sometimes I have dreams of her, I think its glimps of an alternate reality, where those ugly dudes werent there to cockblock me and we got together. So any deck to counter this?
Some of the nu-lorwyn art looks okay but then there's some obviously awful stuff mixed in, like that blue ashling >>96623306>>96623543her new stuff stucks though, I don't know what happened to her, but her style changed for the worse>>96623516I was expecting this, but am still disappointed
>>96623526The thing about capeshit is that it's ossified completely at this point, so there's only two ways to get people excited:1. Make a new superhero story that's doing its own canon and you don't have to read 30 billion comics to get what is happening. Worm, that new Superman movie and the cartoon, Invincible, Creature Commandos, Teen Titans; something nice and self contained.2. Say "fuck it" and do Best of DC or Best of Marvel. Something that's firmly just "remember this???" And completely unabashed about it. See Marvel Rivals.
>>96623543She really ought to be all over this set, maybe she is. How much do you reckon one of those fucking things is gonna be on the secondary?
>>96623633eboy lookin ass
>>96623633>>96623641I'll take eboy lorwyn elves if it means they don't make them fat and ugly
>>96623544You were sharing that space the entire time, anon.
Also, uh... A Jaws Secret Lair, with a mechanically unique Jaws card. Out of nowhere.
>>96623633Butchered.
>>96623678>jaws>red card
Probably the stupidest Secret Lair is Dwight from The Office.
>>96623678>red
>>96623678>shark>card is blue>monored
>>96623603It feels like she became more of an illustrator than an artist, if that makes sense
>>96623695It's so absurd I don't even know what to think for this one.
>>96623695I refuse to believe that's real.
>>96623088Fitz? Are you okay mate?
>>96623678this isn't real
Check the new ashling, Wizards has done what Maro (faggot) threatened for years, replaced Shaman with Sorceror>>96623678>a pure red shark
>>96623695>>96623721This can't be real. Please. I can't take it.
>More UB sets than normal setsAhahahaa, it didn't take long for this to happen
I'm so fucking tired of this semenslurping game
>>96623695>>96623721Is this real? lmao
>>96623731
>>96623745>>96623736It's real. For reasons.
WE LIKE FORTNITE
Also Iron Maiden.
>>96623695who is this even for
I genuinely do not understand what the fuck they're even doing at this point
>>96623781Trying to get the bored stoner millennial audience
>>96623198>>96623269>GrubWho the fuck is Grub? Is he one of Wort's kids? Is that the name of his favorite sensation?
>>96623695>the office + fallout infinite combo is now realseems inarguable that the game is dead at this point
>only one year of the ub shit>already taking over the main magic space and now we are more universe beyond than actual magic>but don't worry friends! atipycal year!yeaaaah... finally i can be free of this motherfucking game. i could resist 6 sets a year, i could swallow shit sets like spiderman as long as we had some balance, but star trek? more marvel? seven products and more ub than actual magic? bye, magic, you were cool.
>i play dwight from the office to exile your spongebob
>>96623791following a proven playbook
>>96623781
>>96623800auntie grub was a character mentioned in original lorwyn
>>96623769Tempted but no
>>96623773The silver lining of good art.
>>96623791Throwing shit against the wall and seeing what stick.
>>96623506Lorwyn, Kamigawa, Tarkir...
>>96623049Footsies anyone?
>>96623815But not being a whore is goodWhat's to miss out on?
>>96623847The problem isn't not having been a whore,the problem is that they wish they were and resent that they failed to be.
Fuck Magic. I am going to go play Lucario's game instead.
>>96623225i like this card, can be used ofensive and defensive way, control and midrange can use this card for stalling or remove all the blocker for a lethal attack
Anyway, here's three-
>>96623633They will probably also have Nath as a ghost in the set.>>96623687Alabaster
>>96623853pokeman is actually a pretty fun game ngl
>>96623859>FurbeesThey're really running out of IPs at this point.
Quick poll:Is Magic done for?
>>96623859fucking Furby-
>>96623289I'm a planeswalker, I'm already a self insert taking a tour of each plane I visit collecting spells and allies. That was supposed to be the intent anyway
>>96623875Secret Lairs.
https://x.com/MTGSecretLair/status/1971666727856455697>secret lair Furby>fucking FurbyHolly shit do somebody still care abouth those things? I remember them being the hot new thing when I was 10, but that was 25 years ago.
>>96623875what the fuck
>>96623859>>96623875Dear lord...they're hideous!
>>96623874No it ebs and flows as it should. We just need to be smart about it.
>>96623127I just started getting into this game about a year ago and I was thinking I might build a deck for Standard and start collecting.never mind. won't be doing that.
>>96623887At the very least they're sort of leaning into them being horrifying but still.
>>96623851Wow, imagine being at war with yourself to that extent.
>>96623818Oh I see, I guess she just never got an official card.>Captcha: GGMAN
>>96623127>First UB is the only unannounced oneLiterally what sense does that make?
Also a Dandan Secret Lair which, okay, sure.
>>96623858>sorcerynever mind i cant read for shitethat card is SHIT
>>96623145The best time to leave the game was immediately after khansThe second best time was right when covid hitThe third best time is now
https://x.com/MTGSecretLair/status/1971668648528875913> Chaos Vault: DandânIf it exists they will try to milk it.
>>96623914who the fuck plays dandan anymore?
>>96623914nice art
>>96623874Stop thinking that it will be fine.
What is going on lmao
>>96623086>>96623108>They're bringing back the stories just after Gay Bolas was made canonTHEY'RE MILKING IT
>>96623919>tfw quit right after kaladeshThis was the best time>tfw came backReeee
>>96623912They're gonna announce it in two weeks' time anyway, guess they have a thing lined up for that. It's probably TMNT.
I feel like I am having a fucking seizure. Furby, Star Trek, The Office, what the fuck has happened to Magic? And to see cocksuckers on Reddit and Twitter be SO STOKED HOLY SHIT XXXXDDDD is revolting.
>>96623874if this >>96623127 doesnt answer your question i will do it for you: absolutely and completely done for. if any of you had doubts about leaving this piece of shit, that schedule should be the final push to finally leave this trash behind.go try yugioh, hearthstone, one piece, lorcana, anything else is more acceptable than this trash at the current point.
>>96623924They do it for the memes or whatever.
Uh-oh.
>>96623984At least it's only the first game?
>>96623984DRUCKMAN WINS AGAIN
>>96623564Mario RPG UB will be real in your lifetime
>>96623749la la la lai close my eyes to everything i don't like, you didn't have to show me that
Reminder that the people making decisions at Wizards KNOW what they are doing is evil and do not care. If you are buying Secret Lair etc. they are laughing at you.
>>96623603Old was definitely superior, the new stuff tries too hard and the art is way too busy with those extra lines and shit
Are guns okay again?
>>96623908There are lots of Lorwyn/Shadowmoor characters who didn't. One of the most important elves in the original books was a noble who could shape trees and was to marry another noble (but she got killed by faeries while going to his city).Like other said there was also Jack who had like 60+ pages in the shadowmoor book. (also the shadowmoor book has lots of single characters who could have a card)From cards there was Illulia who was the second most dangerous Cinder around (I don't remember her in the lorwyn books), she was also a villain in the "Web adventure choose your path" that they did for shadowmoor. Talara was a elf commander from one of the safeholds. etc
>>96623984>>96623997>SurvivorSo when are we getting a Kaiji secret lair
>>96623997>>96623984its not real and it cant hurt me
>>96623984why are they making such specific tokens when they know they are going to have to UW that shit eventually anyway
>>96624038Survivor's already a creature type anon.
>>96624054best post I've seen all day, thanks.
>>96623733What are these effects? Why is Red not the ritual side and Blue the card draw side? Is every transforming legend in this set gonna just be ass-backwards?
>>96623984>Have to filter a new variation of partner with again
>>96624071>he still believes thatAnon, I...
>>96624079I know but I was hoping that it wont just be the gateway to horror UB stuff exclusively
>>96624071I don't know, Walking Dead already showed it was dumb. Maybe it's a weird IP requirement because they can't just be called zombies for some stupid reason.
>>96624102they did it with walking dead and it looked retarded
>>96623472Mark "nobody will buy a set with animals because nobody can relate to animals" KIKEwater
>Furby SL>not Labubu SLdo they hate money?
>>96624126In 3 years after Labubus are already a dead fad
i'm so sad and tired... i used to like this game...
>>96624113They don't even need to call them zombies just don't call them [[proper noun]] from [[some gay ass ip]].
>>96623127It is actually, unironically, completely overwhat the fuck is that
>7 fucking set releases in 1 year>More UB than UW, including more capeshit and star trek>Humans on Lorwyn>Furby secret lair>Furby secret lair x3>DWIGHT SECRET LAIRThis might just be the gayest day in the history of the game
>>96624153>Humans on LorwynWhere do you see this, because that's never a thing said anywhere.
>>966241503 sets a year is completely reasonable.
>>96623859>>96623875>>96623886...but sriously, WHO is the target audience?
>>96624071They'll just straight up rename it into something else.
ALSO note the Last of Us isn't the only Playstation thing, they've just not shown everything from Secret Lair X Playstation. So... Kratos and Atreus probably are getting cards?
>>96624126Labubus were only big fairly recently. Give them a year when theyll finally decide to make one when its finally out of fashion
>>96624173my wife would probably think they are neatif I ever let her know about them
>>96624179They can't do that with the tokens though
>>96624126I want my Labubu secret lair with cards like Matcha Latte, Crumbl Cookie and Dubai Chocolate
>>96624180Oh, apparently they're showing that right now in fact.
>>96624181>when its finally out of fashion
>>96624180>Kratos and Atreus probably are getting cards?nice called shot
>>96624215just
>>96624215Oh shit it's the OG Kratos too that's actually kinda cool, when was the last time they acknowledged the original games.
>>96624215>no ConcordONE JOB
>>96624215https://blog.playstation.com/2025/09/26/first-in-depth-look-at-magic-the-gathering-secret-lair-x-playstation-collaboration-launching-this-october/Full spoilers for each new card in the drops.
>>96624215>7 game dropsis this a single secret lair or 7 upcoming ones
>>96624270this would have actually been fire
>>96624271Making a Joel and Abby partner deck.
Commander and its consequences has been a disaster for Magic the Gathering
>>96624271the fuck?
>>96624274>>96624271looks like 7 upcoming ones, is this the most secret lairs announced in one day?
Dominik Mayer Jin Sakai does go pretty hard though.
>>96624298Stop using it's slave namethe format is called EDH
>>96623127MAGIC IS DEAAAAAAAAAAD
>Been trying to homebrew a Twisted metal deck for a year now>Its not in the Sony Secret lair.
>>96623887Everything makes sense once your realize that the average MtG player is over thirty years old. This game needs Milleanial money to live and thrive.
>>96624270Would unironiclaly be funny like that holdover episode from that Amazon Prime show
Nathan Drake and Lara Croft are both MTG cards now
>>96623707>card is blue>monoredThere's nothing wrong with that. The secret lair is retarded don't get me wrong.
>>96624364I'm not sure even 30+ year-olds cared about Firby anymore, and certainly not the 30+ year old that cares about MtG in any capacity
>>96624357thats good though, they didnt piss on your parade
it's always been weird that big sea creatures were blue to begin with
>>96624407Brother, its SO hard mixing Vehicles and equipment.
>>96624271This could’ve been neat if it wasn’t dropping next to 5 more UB card sets
>>96623558I would say people are tired of MCU slop not capeshit in general, just look at the success of the recent Superman movie too
>iron Maiden SL>not Ozzy/Black Sabbath SLone job
>>96624411its literally just water = blue
>>96624270>>96624369You just damn well know they had one fully planned before reality set in.
>>96624417its not fun if its not hard
>>96624440yeah which is not how the color pie works
>>96624411>big tree men are green>big firey men are red>big skeleton men are black>big angels are white>big fish are blueLiterally nothing is weird about this go be apologist somewhere else
>>96624456the colour pie has never mattered as much as people make it out to
next modern horizons set leaked
>>96624215Why sony keeps trying to push Horizon as their big ip?
>>96624436People aren't tired of MCU either, GOTG3 did well, deadpool and wolverine did well, I think even the fantastic 4 movie did well. They just have more duds now, but they did back then too. People just remember the recent ones more.
>>96624403Doesn't matter. It's not about caring for Furbys (no one did), but it's a member berry and a reference only a Millenial or Gen Xer would get. My younger siblings wouldn't recognize half the IPs they used on Universe Beyonds. All of the UBs are geared toward the 30+ demographic.
>>96624483Because Sony stopped caring about anything besides these 5 games forever, and their other IPs can just sort of die I guess.We could've had a Sly Cooper Secret Lair.
>>96623695Fuck me who the hell greenlit this?
>>96623127I thought 6 sets a year were already so bad that would be a line they would never pass overI guess i understimate Hasbro and JOTC greediness. But what's worse i thought they were aware people HATED the idea of already had to share half the schedule with UB and would wait a little before trying to push UB more than MTG... It's been a year, a very bad year we come from one of the worst sets in Magic history and what they do? Tell us next year we are getting more UB than Real Magic.Yeah, Fuck you Hasbro, you are the worst and most evil corpo faggots out there, but you will not get a penny from me.
>>96624495California killed my waifu.....
>>96624475I would legit play this UB
This would be a better fitIt already looks like a discard spell
>>96624483Herman Hulst is one of the bigwigs in Sony right now and Horizon is his baby so they always try to shove Horizon in everything despite it being painfully average.
>>96624495I hate that I could actually see them being a SL and dealing with the idea that they won't be made.Granted, people can always make proxies, and you know damn well which ones they'd do; but still.
>>96623516Oh hey the prophecy came true
SEVEN FUCKING SETS
We have reached a point where I'm fine with the Hobbit set because it least its aesthetic isn't too distracting
>>96624552you're part of the problem
>>96624539>wotc is going to urbanize the (literally anything)>prophecySuns going to rise tomorrow, from the east most likely. Screencap this
premodern bro never had been more vindicated than today.
>>96624539>Hes upset AGAIN!
>>96624509>Bruce Jenner flip card>legendary Planeswalker - Ye>plastic surgery counters>"If you control Kris, Kourtney, Kim, Khloe, Rob, Kendall and Kylie, you win the game">Legendary Artifact - Sex Tapesame
>>96624561>>Bruce Jenner flip cardokay I laughed
>>96623875did they mix up furbies for gremlins in the IP acquisition?
>>96623127>The HobbitI guess people trying to get The One Ring was too enticing, they'll make another.
>>96624561>Bruce Jenner flip cardIts going to be vehicle themed commanderbait i just know it
>>96623984AFUCKINGBRICK
>>96624583it seems like Furbee is cashing on the "ha ha furbies are so creepy" meme
>>96624583It's because Hasbro already owns Furby
>>96624584001/001 Arkenstone here we come
>>96624583Hasbro owns Furbies.
>>96624561>>96624509Ye walker would mog the post malone secret lair 1000 times over
This is on my UB / Secret Lair bingo card:> Labyrinth> Shrek> Supernatural> Back to the Future> FriendsIf you want to know the future of MtG, just look at the IPs Hasbro has already adopted for Monopoly variants.
Who will they niggify for the Hobbit?
>>96624632One of the dwarves was only shown black.
>>96624627Secret Lair for elf is gonna drop this christmas
>>96624632Bilbo
>>96624627grim
>>96624632Bard
>>96624270They 100% would have done this
>>96624632100% certainty>BardLikely>ThorinPossible>Thranduil
>>96624654>line of text 10, this is just being silly and beyond the point of reason haha...
>>96624654damn, have you considered showing this to wotc?
>stopped playing after the spongebob secret lair because that made me finally give up>still come back here every now and again just to see what's happening>7 fucking sets in one year>most of it UBslop>doubling down on marvel when nobody cares about it in 2025>a star trek set when EoE already felt horrifically out of place as-is>an entire set for the hobbit, which is about as good of an idea as stretching it out for a whole trilogy>the other one's apparently TMNT which makes about as much sense as spiderman>that secret lair of jaws where they aren't even trying (99% of the card art is pure blue and it's a FUCKING SHARK and they made it monored)>a fucking entire secret lair dedicated to dwight schrute>THREE secret lairs dedicated to furbysit's really fucking dire that the one thing I can give them is making a lair for a meme format (you know what secret lairs SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR) and even then I refuse to actually give them props because they're probably going to charge a hundred dollars for it
>>96624706>a star trek set when EoE already felt horrifically out of place as-isyou have the cart before the horse. they made EoE specifically to open the door to Science Fiction UBs
>>96623127Completely ignoring the fact that these are all UBslop:>every set released in 2026 is standard legalWhy. Why. Why. I guess I'll play Lorwyn but looks like I'm out after that. As a regular standard player I just wont be able to be competitive only using non-UB cards and I'm just not going to play with those. It was fun while it lasted
Cubechads and premodernfags were always right
It's funny how Lorwyn which was at release considered to be too big a departure from the estabilished MtG aesthetic is now the last bastion of MtG
>>96624650Bilbo was white in the lotr set so more likely it will be some if not all of the dwarves
>>96624740They still gonna butcher elves. But at least with some nice style.
>>96624740>>96624751I've been saying this since they announced a lorwyn return. you're a fool if you think they won't fuck it up the way they've been fucking everything up lately. I'm almost looking forward to the set, only in a "I just want it to be over" kinda way.
Everyone always talks about black Aragorn but no one ever remembers asian Legolas...
>>96624766That's chinkolas for you
My personal favourite was Galadriel who seemed to change race every card
>preorders sold out on amazonuhhhh do these things ever get reprinted or do you have to pay a reseller 1 billion dollarydoos
>>96623127so that fifty fifty split promise of UB and UW lasted, what, a whole half a year?
>>96624740Honestly i don't care how hard they fuck it up.NOTHING and i mean FUCKING NOTHING could we worse than stupid ninja turtles and pizza, Ironman/Negro Panther/She-hulk and Spock, Klingon, Enterprise being Standard playable. I will enjoy what i could from Lorwyn and then give the middle finger to this whole game.
Duskmourn and Bloomburrow felt like they had a cohesive vision, but someone in charge of marketing UB shit forced the set directors to include 80s parafernalia and furry planeswalkers in them.I hope Lorwyn gets alway. The spoilers look decent enough, what worries me the most is the Strixhaven excursion shit.
>>96624784What, the free market not good enough for you?
>>96624784mommy! who dat?
>>96624784Who is this demon?
>>96624784>>96624811>>96624814that's a man
why they couldnt keep ub into the cummander and memedern lairs? paypiggies are happy with this shit but why the rest of us must suffer the slop storm?
>>96624811>>96624814@louxxei
>>96624820impossible. hips, shoulders, jaw, that is no man.
Has a slippery slope ever failed to get slipped out?
>>96624713yeah a lot of stuff is secretly being done in in-universe sets just to lay the groundwork for UB now, since UB is more profitablecan't think of any examples offhand besides Unfinity establishing Alien type for Dr. Who and EoE establishing spaceships for Trek but they definitely exist>>96624790Star Trek is gonna be better than watered down Lorwyn with all the charm and edginess removedThe changes we've already seen are pretty big. I will not be surprised if the elves get the same treatment the Sultai did in Tarkir
Imagine if you had seen only the Lorwyn stuff and disconnected for the day.
>>96624869I would be horrified but less so than expected as to what they did to lorwyn
>riley insulting cedricbased>cedric talking about waffle house in ebonics completely unironically>for blm cred or somethingcringeAnyway, modern sure sucks now.
>>96624784>>preorders sold out on amazonPreorders for what?
>>96624881finur fantrasy
Commanderbros... why have you done this to us...
>>96624831>>96624784thanks. Ive seen her vaginiea therefore I won.
>>96624788>believing his lies
>>96624784you pay a chinaman $1 for the whole thing
Who will be the first big content creator to say "I'm done with magic"? Or are their livelihoods so wrapped up in this one game that they are all doomed?Professor and saffron olive both look like they are at their breaking point. They have to be going through an existential crisis right now. At least I can just quit without losing my income source lol
>>96624889Thats cool. Whats even the things they're selling? The chocobo box and what else?Either way Im just gonna ask my lgs owner to hook me up with one.
>>96624862Star Trek is going to be hot garbage
>>96624889oh they put puck on the card cutethe ff1 lair or whatever the fuck that is is neat too
>>96624862>Star Trek is gonna be better than watered down Lorwyn with all the charm and edginess removedFor you maybe, but that only makes you part of te problem.
>>96624906>saffronI remember him having 2k viewers on every stream. now, as far as i can tell, he struggles with getting 500.
>>96624906Someone post the joker rant of Saffron so this anon could see how broken and brainwashed "Magic content creators" are.
>>96624909
>>96624906Prof is probably the only one that actually has a real career to fall back on if he pulls the trigger. But he's too mindbroken (like all the other creators) to actually do it.
>>96624906I think they are so married to their jobs that they have to continue offering their bumholes for wotc to fuck until they overdose or drive in front of a truck in their drunken haze. Seriously, I don't get how anyone wants to play magic anymore with 2026 somehow (albeit it was expected) managing to top 2025 in how shit everything is. And I have 100% confidence that 2027 will be even worse
Why did they make Aragon black but Arwen still looked like Liv Tyler
>>96624939He could just continue doing product reviews and downsize his team for content producing. As retarded as he is, he has so much goodwill of his audience that he could just switch his content to something different and still maintain a reasonable audience and income.
>>96624906Magic Aids
>>96624906The Rhistic Studies guy is the only one I remember which made a straight on attack on UB without the "this is not for me but it might be for someone else" shitHe's doing some sponsored stuff , but I can see him just giving up on all of it.https://rhysticstudies.substack.com/p/what-are-we-doing-really
>>96624784i did not even know they where out today, fuck this fomo market
>>96624929Please do sounds hilarious
>>96624949Cannot have real Latin people, gotta american wash Vigo
what the fuck are we even doing anymore
dunno if anyone cares because Konami isnt really better than WotC but YuGiOh announced a new format a week ago hoping to revive the gameIm taking refuge there until wotc stops sucking or trump sends them all to prison, whichever comes first
>>96624985Just do Secret Lair: Hitler or something already. This is so fucking retarded
>>96624985this might take the cake for weirdest secret lair now
>>96624987I wish I could join you but I don't like YGO on a fundamental level, it sucks when magic is the only game I enjoy playing (that has an audience larger than "six guys on discord") and it's turned into this.
>>96624987the sad truth is that yugioh sucks as a gamemtg sucks at literally everything else but it's one of the few that's actually tolerable to play
I’ve got a deckbox with a little display slot, it’s probably meant for your commander. I’ve been keeping a nice Beta Crusade in there. Now the owner of my local LGS told me I can’t display the card because it’s banned. Is that actually true, or is he just full of shit?
>>96625024He sounds like a typical libtard, they are incoherent but will not hesitate trying to ruin your life
>>96624985
>>96625024it got banned in that "we're using BLM to take the heat off ourselves for having a bunch of judges get exposed for being sexpests" wave they did a few years ago
>>96624985In all my speculation about the dumbest possible UBSomething this dumb never even crossed my mind.
>>96624766because only blacks NEED to see a black person to feel represented, asians didn't make a big deal because they don't care for wotc pandering so no outrage
corey must be the most obnoxious, phony guy that has ever lived. he's always got an insincere smile on his face, and everything that comes out of his mouth is bs.
>>96625024technically yessome nog on twitter said they were racist in their hiring practices and then they ignored that and just banned some other cards to smokescreen it
>>96624921how does he make a living then?
>>96625044>da-dum da-dum
>>96625081da-dum indeed
imagine playing mtg in 2026
How's........ I don't fucking know, Flesh and Blood? Gwent? Any other tcg?
>>96625121last time I tried looking into FaB it was mostly speculatorbros hyping up how it totally wasn't dead which isn't the greatest sign. mighta just been unlucky in who I met though, I'm not sure.>Gwentwasn't that a digital-only thing?
Didnt't Gwent crash and burned after an overhaul update?
>>96625121I'm currently looking at Hearthstone and YuGi. Both at least look better and less predatory than this "game", at least you don't have Spiderman or Bilbo Bolson into them.
>>96625121I want to play F&B because I sort of know the creator, but somehow nowhere in my city runs armories on the weekend and I can't travel to any of the game stores on weeknights.
>>96625044They're all fucking red cards how am i supposed to put these in my fish deck
>>96624654WotC would NEVER make a card 10 lines of text, let alone 10 lines of text for one effect, ahahaha
>>96625131FaB is doing good and the newest set is a banger
>>96625052
Star Trek will be based but /mtg/ will shit and piss everywhere. Mark my words.
>>96625186This just feels uncanny, personally.
>>96625186Trekkie fuck the hell out of here. Your shit will never be Magic.
>>96625186It's been known for some time that ub slop is better than some of the uw stuffwho the fuck cares about strixhaven or whatever the fuck nonsense they're going to pretend is going on in the story now
Did anyone try the one piece game?
>>96625186It will be at least 10% nutrek and cringe as shit
What the fuck would they even Trek? Every spaceship from EOE was completely unplayable.
>>96625121For me, I am playing Shadowverse WB, Yugioh Masterduel, Pokemon TCG Live, and Team Fight Tactics / League of Legends.There are plenty of other games besides Magic. I am taking a break from the physical TCG hobby though, I am going to focus on the vidya instead.
I honestly think the playerbase is going to reach a breaking point soon with even the slop eating whales just peacing out. Amazing how Hasbro has managed to strange its golden goose this fast
>>96625221two more weeks, anon-kun?
>>96625227Not that fast, but would be funny
>>96625221The seriousness of the game is deadIts a toss up if lmao era will be enough to keep people engagedEdh will only become more popular despite its apex being in the pastInteresting times ahead
>>96625221Your mythical playerbase is 90% EDH players.
>>96625221There are too many normie faggots for this to happen. This thread has had the only appropriate response to this repulsive shit. The rest of the typical MtG spaces are on their knees deepthroating Dwight.
>>96625221Soon? Fucking Spider-Man was already it. Everything from here on is going to be swift downhill rush. Today's presentations fully cement that.
>>96625221whales will be the last to quit otherwise their cards, I mean investments will plummet
>>96625253Spiderman managing to shit prerelease attendance was a welcome surprise because I thought that retards would eat that shit up. These retarded announcements coming after the Spiderman disaster doesn't instill much confidence
wrote a magic-themed short story and need cover art, do any MTG artists take art commissions? I looked into Tedin but he seems busy
>>96625253>>96625267they talked earlier in the year about how they knew spiderman wouldn't sell (as well)the set was certainly not good but I think most of that stems from it being the hopefully last vestige of aftermath crap
nigga just slop shit up
>>96625186EOE but every card is LE EPIC REFERENCE? Nah
>>96625272I'm not sure if normies attend prerelease based on if the set is good or not, I would garner that most of them do it based on how it looks like thematically
>>96625150>don't go to hearthstone for the love of god
>>96625272The average paper consumer nor Arena player know or care about any of that. They just know the set sucks and is full of shitty cards so they won't buy it. End of.
>>96625186Start Trek is just Star Wars for people who think they are smarter than they actually are.
>>96625269You could probably ask Gay Bolas anon because he commissioned Joshua Hutchinson for cover art recently.
>>96625295THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME BALLPARK JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SET IN SPACE AND HAVE THE WORD "STAR" IN THEM" DOESN'T MAKE THEM SUITABLE FOR COMPARISON
>>96625313>Trekkie gets mad at truthStatement confirmed.
>>96625295and star wars is straight up for dumb people
>>96625313
don't worry, Disney will whore out Star wars to WOTC soon tooyou will be able to force choke Piccard with Vader on the Enterprise as the Millennium Falcon escapes from the Borg!
>>96625348>nu-trek shall we talk about the acolyte then?
To think that the pandemic would lead to Dwight in MtG
>>96625361You can be damn sure the few first glimpses of Kirk or Spock are just the hook, and the line and sinker of Nu-Trek will follow.Same they did with Final Fantasy.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to this at least. I'll at least be 'happy' that they are attempting to push Magic story externally to the web fiction. Maybe the show will be good. If it exists.
>>96625386It'll be like 70% original and TNG, 20% DS9 and Voyager, and then 10% everything else.
>>96625392GAY DRAGON CAMEO
>>96625397The real thing will be if they do a Lower Decks card. They'll probably do exactly one and it'll be Beckett.
>>96625397a part of me is morbidly curious about how they'll handle the inevitable Darmok cardprobably just a meme secret lair
This game is now unrecognizable.We got from Monsters from Ikoria, Gods of Theros and Guilds of Ravnica to Aunt May,The Cabbage Merchant and soon Spock… It’s completely over.
The FF9 Scene cards got revealed finally, dunno why they were holding off.
>>96625397you're fooling yourself if you think nu-Trek, especially Discovery and SNW, won't have equal representation.
>>96625437
>>96625436But anon, new players joined the hobby!
>>96625442
>>96625437What a boring ass effect. Fucking slopmander players
Does anyone know where I can pirate The Epic Storm's patreon content? Kemono doesn't have it.
There's no way they can resist a Baby Yoda card
>>96625439The set is banking on nostalgia and what's generally loved among the broader populace. Did the FF set go for FFXVI as a big thing? No, it went for 7 and 14, the two objectively most popular ones. Same deal here. OG, TNG and DS9 are the most loved Star Trek series among the fanbase and the broader populace.
>>96623139>Lorwyn-Shadowmoor now, because aspects of both co-exist nowReeks of homogenized, hr approved slop
Baby Yoda will receive the "deck can have any number of cards named" treatment.
>think the pain is finally over and I can rest>Fucking furby SLDJust take the game out back and shoot it already, it's a more dignified end than what's to come
>>96625442>2 mana to permanently give hexproof to a creatureIs this now the cheapest way to give permanent hexproof to a creature?
>>96625461I actually like how aggressively straightforward it is. Not everything needs to be some yugioh-style bag of tricks that all bounce off each other to make a wackadoo combo finish. Sometimes all you need is "punch good"...I'm still not buying it, or playing EDH in the first place mind you, but still.
>>96625477I mean, both are the 'correct' name for the plane. It's Lorwyn when the auroras flip it to that, and Shadowmoor when it flips to that. The correct term thus for the entire 'thing' is Lorwyn-Shadowmoor, surely.
>>96625481Nope, cheap as the cheapest existing way.
>>96623145I'll hold on my shit, my decks are closed anyway.Seeing the future crash will be funny though
>>96624889Are those guaranteed if you get the FF9 one?
>>96625506those are from the chocobo thingthe new cards are each from their separate thing
>>96625512Then this version of Vivi will probably go for hundreds of dollars, like the psychedelic One Ring version in the LOTR holiday set.
>>96623472>Trusting the j3w
>>96623472>believing his lies AGAIN
>>96625437Those are only 3, where is the rest?
>>96625024It's only banned for sanctioned play.As long as it's not in your deck it's fine.
>>96625529I stopped caring to post them because they're just Commander cards that explicitly call out Commander. https://www.polygon.com/final-fantasy-magic-mtg-cards-chocobo-bundle/ It's on here if you care.
>>96624990
Hehe. Black Dwarves.
>>96625044>the only time humans on a card are all white is when they're being murdered
>>96625295No, it's a utopian pipe dream vs fantasy IN SPAAAACEYou literally saw they started with the same word and ended your analysis there
>>96625221It has easily reached Hearthstone tier of not giving a shit about their IPBut no one gives a shit and the slop is gobbled up anyways
>>96624783unironically I think they had a very specific aragorn design in mind because he's the ONLY character who has an unchanging design. I think everyone else was told vague ethnic descriptions at best. Galadriel is dark. Gandalf is asian-ish.But Aragorn clearly had actual designs in the godbook.
You think next year considering how bad this year has been and how worse next one is setting up could become a breaking point? Like I don’t know the proliferation of premodern or the consecutive crash of several sets in a row?
>>96625221I hope Spiderman does so badly that they will think twice about doing any UB set with a random IP.Also is there any reason they don't just print the Omenpath set to paper?They already paid for the art and all they have to do is slap a little label with the 'real' name of the card on top and they're done.I think if they would do an Omenpath set in paper for every UB set that comes out people would be much more accepting of UB. (Since then you can pretent the UB is just alt arts or secret lair stuff)
>>96625576Hearthstone was self aware from the start, themed around being a board game played by your WoW characters while they rested in an inn while you were logged off. Magic never had this kind of intentional parody built into it, the Unsets being the only thing of that nature.
>>96625591Within 1 year of UB being shoehorned into Standard, UB is now a majority of sets.The game is fucking over. Every player that has been coping and pretending that it's only half the game have been culled. More UB sets than MTG sets. The game is dead and nobody can even pretend it's alive anymore.
>>96625603Edh will hobble along because the card pool is big enough and optimization is secondaryYou dont /need/ ugly cards you dont like
The state of CCGs is so fucked that even with all of this garbage, playing cube is more appealing than playing some other game. Seriously, what the fuck am I supposed to play instead? Hearthstone is dying, Pokemon is shit, Yugioh is shit, Lorcana is dying, Flesh and Blood is shit, Gwent is dead, Runeterra is dead, all those other digital games backed by huge franchises are dead. All I want is to be able to play some cards with friends, or even against other randoms online. To be able to trust in an enjoyable game that can put out new content for like five years without going off the rails. Please. That's all I'm asking for.
>>96625631Ashes reborn
>>96625591Wotc is trying to do a Bethesda: they just release half finished barely tested product that people will buy because of the brand name and expect their consummer to fix them. Bethesda expect people to fix their game with mods, Wotc just expect you to play commander/build a cube with the cards you like and ignore the rest.
>>96625631>Flesh and Blood is shit>Lorcana is dying???
>>96625628Sunk cost can only carry a product so far.
>>96625642F&B is already putting out new chase rarities to try and hook whales. Even WotC only did that once, and you can argue most mythics are shit. Lorcana is having a meltdown because normies hate rotation.>>96625637Checked it out real quick, seems more like a board game than a proper CCG. Not a bad thing, just not what I'm looking for. I already have plenty to satisfy my board game needs.
>>96625672The pvp modes are 100% ccg or rather lcg The pve mode is 95% ccg
>>96625694Fair enough, I'll take another look.
>>96625631Premodern
>>96623145i bought 2 fat packs on a whim of the negroid viking set. that was the last i ever bought. crazy to see it got worse lmao.
>>96625631Take the Canlander pill. It's basically cube constructed.
>>96625631retvrn to retro mtg aesthetic with dvelist kingdom mechanics
Is time to embrace traidition and go home. Go to Premodern.
>>96625052So true
>>96625772Go to the favela.
>>96625772Id play if literally anyone on mtgo had a deck
the only thing I wanted out of lorwyn was for them to bring back tribal and they didI can just ignore all the other shit
Reminder the future of Magic is current Mortal Kombat
>>96625772I want something like Edison format for basically the first Zendikar set. No Jace/Stoneforge Mystic, no proliferate/infect. But I still want that first set cause landfall is cool. I guess I could settle for just going to the end of Alara block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg8o__6bEEY>creatures you control gain haste until end of turn
>>96625802Erm... kindred? Bigot.
Seb tried to warn everyone of the hell that Secret Lair™ would unleash upon the game.>>96625802they didn't bring back tribal, they banned the word from the players' lexicon
>>96625836>Seb tried to warn everyoneSauce? I want to read that post/article
>>96625836>>96625830whatever who fucking caresI'll play kindred cards in my tribal deck
>>96625853anon is making a joke based on Seb's Damnation art from his own Secret Lair
>>96625836>>96625830does anybody not on WOTC's payroll unironically call it "kindred?" I mean even amongst line-toers I always hear "typal" instead
>>96625762Dont listen to this retard, canlander is a cancerous format full of red bullshit and fast combo
>>96625872Typal is the concept. Kindred is the type on the card.
>>96625872typal is infinitely worsekindred is at least, technically, the name of the mechanictypal is like trying to turn everything into womxn bullshit
>>96625860Oh.
>commander night at my local LGS>bring fully universes within decklist of my niche, janky commander who gets to have fun sometimes>new player I haven't seen shows up and enters our pod of 3>it's the Carrie Bradshaw's Wardrobe precon from the HBO's Sex and the City set from last year>look up standard decklists for pro tour Warner Bros.' Looney Tunes>45% of the meta is the same Izzet Blastoise list>go to edhrec.com to find cards for my Akroma deck I've had for 15 years>Jace and Vraska, Wed planeswalker is now a must include in this deck>go to TCGplayer>a playset is $132
>>96625884Well yeah.
>>96625900>commander night>playsetLol retard
>>96625900
>>96625900>Commander>Playset
>>96625900Nice try retarded-kun.
>>96625907>>96625919In a year they'll update the rules for EDH to allow mutiples in order to "reflect the playerbase's desire to see their favorite characters more often while playing games". The unspoken motive is of course that they want to get players to buy more cards and saw the singleton restriction as an obstacle to that.
This game is just a filthy cum dumpster for a conga line of third party IPs to blow their load inside for a bit of easy marketing.
>>96625461Anon the card literally says FIC on the lower left.
Now what, make a new player controleld format thats a copy of either modern or pio but banning all UB cards?
>>96626039Yeah. That format would only have like 3 sets a year which would be great and be how it should be.
>>96626039That is the way yes. UB not adulterated formats that can be enjoyable with only REAL Magic cards on it.
>>96626060>UB not adulterated formats that can be enjoyable with only REAL Magic cards on it.ah yes, REAL magic cardsthe way garfield intended
>>96626039it's called premodern and it seems to have an unannounced 'racist ban' too since racists shriek at the mention of the format
>>96626068Yes, even DFT is more acceptable than pic related, slop enjoyer faggot.
>>96626068people just have to accept anything post-2019 is and will always be ugly powercrept shit, there's already a huge pool of cards from alpha to 2019 for an eternal format to last for decadesjust look at premodern
>>96626080>Yes, even DFT is more acceptable than pic relatedthen you are lost, have someone with integrity make your dream format
>>96625998Wrong again, they will just keep printing functional reprints and bypass the singleton format that way.
>>96626083>post-2019that's an incredibly hilarious cutoff pointin 5 years people like you'll be saying "yea anything up to Dwight from The Office is fine"
>>96626084DFT is a REAL Magic set, retard, that will not change even if you hate such set.
>>96626039Yes bit this time when WOTC sends you death threats call their bluff unlike those cucks at the RC
>>96626092Honestly the cancer goes way back but up to spooidermin probably wouldnt be that bad
>>96626095>DFT is a REAL Magic set, retard,of course it is of course it isand the set with the 1920s mobsters isand the set with the 1980s horror parodies and cheerleaders are too
>>96626101My cutoff would be mh2I could be talked into pre mh3
>>96626070didn't know you were brazilian tripfag
i dont know why you talk about new fan made formats and ways to avoid new ub releases when we all know you are the first and foremost culprits of the actual situation.you dont support premodern, you will keep coonsoming jotc products and you dont have the balls to make unoficial formats or the resources to ever make it popular.the wishlist you speak about will never do anything to wotc and they will keep going around selling you the products you will buy like addicts. is just over.
Please remember to comment how much you hate this on this video https://youtu.be/pxGUDYNwpL4?si=yH4iQIobz1e0ZZIdEmail wizards, call their hotline. Make it known that you are not buying their products.
>>96626102>Waaah I don’t like Duskmourn tooAnything else you want to share with the class, anon?
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>>96626130> the resources to ever make it popular.so just like premodern
>>96626092Look, we can argue all day about various turning points going back decades even, but there's no denying that WAR and MH1 are one of the big ones.
>>96626136>Waaah I don't like Spiderman too
>>96626130If people actually played premodern id cumBut they dont and here i sit with blue balls
>>96626130No, the foremost culprits are a few doors down in /edhg/
>>96626144Yeah I don’t like Spider-Man and you know what? Even if you slip enjoyers buy that shit will never be real Magic. That’s the whole point of this conversation.
>>96626144>yes
UB badHat sets badWOTC badAny disagreement?
>>96626130I will not eat the blame for Cummander faggots and Slop enjoyers. I vote with my wallet but there seems to be a lot more wallets on their side. Still I refuse to surrender. UB shit can burn in hell.
>>96626149Hey man edh is just as affected by this bullshit as anyoneIts a bottomfeeder format>>96626158
>>96626142mtg ended in 2019 for all intents and purposes2020 had fire, the first secret lairs, the trend of banning standard cards and the beginning of the death of standard, oko, omnath, eldraine in general, mh1 was already out and etc etc
>>96626130I haven’t buy a single thing from this company since 2010.
>>966261712019 was when WAR, MH1 and ELD came out
>>96626158What's a hat?
>>96624126It's us late millennials who now have the money to buy this slopWe had furbies as little kids, grew up watching avatar and all watched The Office as teens
>>96626276I hate admitting that of all the UB shit that's been put out, the single solitary one to actually tempt me is the avatar set. I refuse to come back to the game just for that, especially seeing everything announced today, but I guess if you just throw everything at the wall eventually one or two of them will hit.
>>96626276what 60 year old boomers are they trying to get with the iron maiden lair(s)
wotc need to make a UB for macha latte labubu dubai coffee before they lose traction. We need this more than Lorwyn.
>>96626296I found it difficult to resist lotr and ff but I haveEverything else looks like such shit
>>96626296>>96626336it's easy to "resist" if you just don't play with real cardsjust use proxies or tts or something
>>96626334Labubu Standard set will come like three years after the trend has faded
>star trek>iron maidenWhy are they suddenly targetting 60+ year olds??do they even play card games?
>>96626359>play>card gamesIt's a collector's game now
>>96626359whichever ip that had a modicum of popularity in any space of time and is cheap enough to license will be licensed
>>96626359Dude, scalpers.Scalpers took over tcg's
>>96626359zoomers are broke, no money to spend on cards
>>96626359>the last good thing either put out was 30 years ago>I was probably like 5Damn. At least I got to grow up with Toonami. I wonder how shit it is to be 12 in 2025.
>>96626359pokemon is a much bigger seller in japan and it's mostly just collectors>>96626425You have mascot horror, fortnite, and roblox
>>96626430>pokemon is a much bigger seller in japan and it's mostly just collectorsSeriously, and people wonder why Magic is pandering to collectors. It's because that's a proven formula to make money, in a genre where the games that pander to players regularly crash and burn. People vote with their wallets, and some people have more votes. You can't surprised if proxy everything and the company doesn't care about your opinion.
>>96626467Nosewater hand typed this
>>96626473sorry anon it's a factthe nose knows and the nose knows collector shit sells more than giving a rat's ass about joke formats like standard
>>96626473Nah, I haven't given any money to WotC in at least the past decade. I'm just not going to act outraged when that means WotC decides to cater to people who have. I don't like it, but I can understand why they did it.
>>96626467why make mechanically new cards then?just give the rare chase alt art and make the bulk in universe versions so players can grab them cheap
>>96626488They cannot give up this illusion that it's still a game.Collectors will not collect stuff from a game that is dead. They need to show it off to someone. This is the same tactic that f2p gacha games use. The motivation to show off to your friend or any community that you belong to is why whales spend money.
WE WANT MORE!!MORE SECRET LAIR SLOPPA!ACCELERATE!!!!
>>96626488You're asking why the billion dollar company doesn't try to extract all the money? What are you, a commie?
>>96626488That's what Secret Lairs are, they're doing that too.
>>96626430Roblox is basically like warcraft 3 custom maps
>>96624906>Who will be the first big content creator to say "I'm done with magic"?Mengucci is on his way there, he already made it clear he's branching out to flesh & blood and possibly other TCGs because magic is actually dying.
>>96624906Prof is reaching the breaking point now that no longers can cope on booze
Sygg being a little ugly and the mutavault token dont seem so bad now
>>96626430>pokemon is a much bigger seller in japan and it's mostly just collectorsPokemon has actually dozens of 1000-2000+ players tournaments all around the world, and I mean a fucking a lot of them, magic has what, 1 gp per year now? The player base is clearly in existent in 2025 outside of paupergeddons pulling 600-1000k players 3 times per year.
>>96626601I mean normal people not tournaments
Reality Fracture's villain? Loot.Reality Fracture's hero? Loot.
>>96626630>>96626630>>96626630
>>96626609The villain is actually Jace turned evil. He’s going to warp reality and color shift the other planeswalkers, aka white mana Lily and blue mana Chandra
>>96625201Shitier mtg but without UB shit.>>96625392The web novels are trash. The last few books except the one with the demon bidding walker(Davrel? i don't remember to be honest)(but is the one that was free but WotC tried to monetize) are trash.>>96625448commander is magic>>96625547No, anon, it was all because of that one crazy art director who was fired ages ago!
>>96623169You really mad at that design when he cute desu
>>96626039How would you get people to play those formats? Pio and Modern are online only formats, nobody plays them irl.
>>96624985Recyclops is based
