Emptiness>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96623049>TQPost a card that describes how you feel about the future of MTG
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Remember to bully every whale buying UB slop, they helped ruining this game
>>96626630>evoke can only get one effect>flickering the evoke only cheats out a mediocre body, no effect>discourages 5c slop despite being a hybrid 2c 2 pip cardActually good design for once.
>TQ
still cant believe we genuinely reached this point
>tq
went 3-0 at draft tonight with WG spidersdraft for this set is just ok
>>96626671I also like the design but these cards will never actually get cast for their full cost, 6 mana is impossible to reach in standard right now
>>96626630Web-slinging Combo took 3rd place in a Pio chally
>>96626630>TQ
>>96626728>spongebobIn game>Kylo RenNot in game>Iron ManIn game>ElsaNot in game>WhopperNot in game, though there's some very similar cards>Travis ScottNot in game, though there's Post MalonePretty much 4/6 in the game already, that's absurd. Kylo might actually happen, Elsa seems unlikely since that's Lorcana territory.
>>96626671This.
>>96626746grim as fuck
>>96626671There's never been an issue with evoke being flickable until they made the elementals pitchable.
>>96626728Travis Scott is apparently some rapper so just replace him with Post MalonePlus we're 99% likely to get star wars before long
>>96626763I need to find that old "tired gamer comics" meme cause that's where I'm at
>>96626630
>>96626758We have "totally not Elsa"
WotC has made this game a cum dumpster for any 3rd party IP that flashes a few bucks at them
>TQIt's like a train wreck, but you're still curious how things are going to play out.
>>96626630I don't know if I'd say if the office is worse than the walking dead per se, but it's absolutely more confusing.
>>96626796I'm aware, but I'm personally fine with that. It's not like Elsa was the first character to pioneer the archetype, if WotC can put their own spin on it that's ok by me. I'm not against stuff like Iron Man because it clashes with the rest of the game, I'm against it because it's lazy shit that devalues everything else the game has built.
>>96626799it was literally an algorithm based decision.What's next, Seinfeld?
Tq
>>96626811Remember when /tg/ thought everything in eldraine was from disney and it was just from the actual folklore shit that disney aped even though there's little difference
>>96626796>>96626811To be fair, Hylda was based on a real world scandinavian fairy tale.
>>96626630>tq
>>96626799I'm a man of principle, and while I find the office crossover distasteful, it's still only a secret lair. If they want to sell official alters, so be it. The UB sets are far, far worse.
>>96626819It was Disney in the same way EOE was star wars / star trek
>>96626823underrated removal spell
>>96626826So was elsa>>96626830Secret Lairs
>>96626811fairy-tale plane doing its own take on the snow queen isn't comparable to fortnite sloppa, yeahand honestly even if it was meant to be a take on elsa directly, it's at least "a take." I don't mind references as long as they're handled well.
>>96626830Secret Lair was the lube that allowed the dildo of UB to fuck us all.
How was the most exciting thing announced this weekend just more FF product. Nobody seems to give a fuck about anything else that was announced
>>96626856>anon isn't hyped af for jaws and furbiesare you even a mtg fan?!
Secret lairs didn’t open the floodgates for UB, that was all corpo kikes from Hasbrew who wanted a quick shot of shekels before they jump ship leaving JOTC scrubs to hold the bag and face a burnt out crowd of players not chasing fomo scalper gimmicks.And oh yeah fuck Gavin with a rusty wrench for kike-ing white
>>96626850That's like saying custom alters were the slippery slope to secret lairs, or sleeves with art led to custom alters. You can't write off something just because it may potentially lead to something worse.
>>96626856lorwyn is near-guaranteed to be modern mtg art slopat least the ff1/9 cards are cool and some of the 8 ones
>>96626880I like the art style presented so far. The substance is up to a debate.
>>96626878>>96626878>>96626878>You can't write off something just because it may potentially lead to something worse.Yes you can. It's called risk management
the black mage looks better than 99% of modern mtg art and the others aren't bad either
>>96626942Better not step outside tomorrow, you could get hit by a car
>>96626945thank heavens for small mercies, at least FF looks like it "could" be part of magic if you weren't familiar with the source. all this other shit is just going off the rails. Star trek....
Jace, when the wall fell
>TQI'm simply not buying
>>96626630>TQ:
>>96626792I never closely examined the artwork here and didn't play ff6, wtf is going on?
>>96627097clown man is the villain of the game, this represents him ruining everythingt. never played FF
>>96627097Kefka got experimented on and went insane, betrays his lord and becomes a god, also this art looks like too much AI or digital photoshop art really miss classic paintings
>>96627097The Narshe incident superimposed over Kefka's mug, because he's the one who gave Terra the slave crown so she'd slaughter resistance members for the empire, as a joke
LOL
>>96627187>The Office Secret LairHow much longer until we get a Pizza Hut UB? Or Mountain Dew?This is so pathetic.
yo made a modern intruder alarm deck, pretty much beat every aggro deck and lost to every control deck, are there any cards you would reccomend to improve garbage like this ?
Universe Beyond: LorwynUniverse Extended: Marvel Superheroes
>>96626630>TQPremodern and PreDH are the only formats worth playing now.
>>96627288no idea what is in your format but when I build beater decks like this there's arrival bonuses, remove life or gain life, or perhaps a damage ticker or sacrifice trigger
So the best they could come up with for the return was everyone on lorwyn being a freaky bipolar maniac who completely changes their appearance and personality every day?When do they find the time to sleep? And why is the art so fugly?>>96626737I’ve played it on MTGO to mixed results (4-0,2-2,3-1). I find it all very boring.
Is it too late to sell out of Magic?
>>96627413The Thermocline of trust has yet to be breached, so this is the best time to hard sell out. sell everything but your bulk cards, and proxy any of the decks you sold. you should be fine.
>>96626630>From 6 sets a year to 7>1 month between two different sets
Why isn't Edea a Sorcerer if she's a sorceress.
Based on the Planeswalker guide I guess the legends colors will not match their tribes.
Ashling and her Command are ugly as hell, gimme Cinders not these lame ice-kin. Sygg looks alright, but his dark half being white is dumb, as others have said. Incarnations look solid so far (are we really getting 10 mythic slots devoted to these?). Showcase cards look FAR too similar to the ones from WOE, but showcase has always been a cancer. At least Omar Rayyan is still around, picrel looks nice (looks like he maybe did a Thoughtseize, art in the planewalker's guide).
>>96627694https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/planeswalkers-guide-to-lorwyn-eclipsedAccording to the guide there are still some Cinders.
Since Rebecca Guay is now an established name her art will now only be on 500 cards.
>>96627698>gandalf stayed chinkthe ride never stops!!
>>96627669those are all the new Ff8 cards?where the others revealed as well? like 9 and 15
>>96627707>Toward the end of the invasion, some cinders became rimekin, content with the new flame that the change brought them. Others returned to Lorwyn and went through the long and arduous process of regaining their warmer flame.I'm afraid there's still a chance they'll be absent but I guess there's some hope.>>96627688Also, I must gripe that this auntie isn't nearly gross or ugly enough on either half.
>>96627732All four were revealed, with 9 being the last one
I hope they errata all shaman into sorcerers.
>>96627741where can i find them all?
>>96627743was this because of "micro aggressions"?
>>96627746https://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-news/mtgxfinalfantasy-holiday-release/
Where is your god now /mtg/?
>>96627779Just let this game out of its misery already
It appears persists won't return as a main mechanic since it has reminder text.
Powerful White Card.
>>96627796it's a 4 mana sorcery that can't even be recurred, it sucks ass
>>96627790I like the Fable alt art better.
Who the hell is Jim Woodring?
this image shows perfectly how i feel right now…
Oh no humans will tarnish Lorwyn's Natural beauty.
>>96627808>that "art">>96627808>Who the hell is Jim Woodring?im sure its some college drop out with a cousin working at JotC helped him out with this sloppa.
>prove you're not in Hell (you can't)
>>96627808that blue card looks like an insect from EoE
>>96627827https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_WoodringI mean...you weren't wrong about the dropout part
>>96627829reddit is LOVING these, why can't you?!
>>96627839Reddit is hating all of them except the Hobbit for some reason.
>>96627808>>96627827>>>"Woodring dropped out of college and spent the next year and a half as a garbage man.During this time he developed a serious drinking problem"ok, this explains his "art"
>>96627779>Ugin is going to fracture Bolas's bolass in OctoberIt's honestly unfathomable how Gay Bolas anon wrote a story so fucking good it got WotC to start publishing novels again because he showed them how good the writing can be.
Things I expect from 2026 Lorwyn:>Blasian Kithkin>White coded villain>Sassy, obese legendary creature>Character that swaps gender between Lorwyn and Shadowmoor>Annoying cameos from other planes>Loot or Fblthp reference>OP 3 mana planeswalker>Hags are retconned from Shadowmoor
>>96627844>for some reasonThey want more black Hobbits
>the hobbitwhats next? the rangs of power?!
>>96627854It's the only way you'll be happy.
What's the best TCG to get into? Not a big fan of F&B, the art doesn't look as jice as MtG.
>>96627864>black>personhmm
This game is so fucking cooked.Seven sets a year.Horrible IPs.Abominable SL.Pioneer support dead. Maybe is time to get out.
>>96627857Believe it or not, Furby
Ngl I was secretly hoping for elder scrolls just cause Bethesda gladly handed them fallout but Star Trek is so fucking funny to me that I think I will die with the biggest grin on my face if I stomp someone with fucking pavl chekov and say nuclear wessels
Hey yall it's your boy Rosewater here! Just stopping by to tell yall that the announcements have been received TREMENDOUSLY well haha! Our internal data are showing happiness levels previously considered impossible! We know exactly what you are asking for: More UBs. And guess what: We will answer! 2027 will feature 8 UBs! I can tell you the first one is about F1 racers haha but the rest we'll have to figure out.
>>96627800We need Serra to pay a visit to WotC HQ.Good art, if the artist selected those himself he is a cool guy.
>>96627876brace for shortest named magic card ever Legendary creature / Alien GodQ
Somewhere a Commander player is screaming in excitement: "This is perfect for my Dwight/Furby deck"
>>96627887unfathomably based for a "fuck this table" commander deck
>>96627886>Good art, if the artist selected those himself he is a cool guy.totally man, specially the nog angel really brings it all together
>>96627887Fuck man my inner reddit slop nerd is coming out this is something I've literally joked about saying it would never happen but would funny if it did everyone told me possible secret lair but a full star trek set??? Fuck how do you even do that level of tomfoolery
>>96627887>godreally? was Q really that powerful?thought he was just some kind of mind alien, with telepathy etcetc
>>96627698I don't know much about lord of the rings but didn't they already throw all the hobbits characters into that set too?
>>96627873>>96627829LOL
>>96627946They can just do it like Spiderman and include 99 versions of each character
>>96627953They had like 7 gandalfs, 5 frodos, 5 golums, and however many elseI think the most spiderman had of a character was 3? lotr had it way worse
>>96627779Where things gone so wrong? When we lost all the good things?
>>96627965well mr eslthe current wave of cancer got kickstarted 10 years ago with origins and the capeshit-ification of the story
>>96627779what as that shitpost image from a few months agoI feel like this is worse than that one, somehow
>>96627943He's a 4th dimensional immortal alien that can basically manipulate our universe like a sandbox and jokingly plays God to ancient civilizations for lols god-like but apparently his race can kill each other so
>>96627968go further back.the introduction of planeswalkers and their consequences have been a disaster for MtG
>guy who makes Dandan format wasn't aware of the Secret LairYes please put in more efforts in creating fun ways to play our games so we can sell you UB and Secret Lairshttps://bsky.app/profile/magicstorytime.bsky.social/post/3lzs3s4b6kk27
>>96627990there are several increases in cancer
>>96627779at first i thought this was another meme made up, then i realized was true and i got sad for this game.
>>96627994>the replies jfc
>>96627808I'll stand by my opinion that bad art is still better than boring art.
>>96626630>>96626649*sigh*
>>96627943>really? was Q really that powerful?im no lore master but Q are effectively gods as they can alter reality dramitically at will with seemingly few limitations, this would in my opinion be adequate for godhood in MTG.
>>96627743no, I'm guessing the retards will errata only the d&d shamans as sorcerers (because the shaman type was used to represent the sorcerer d&d class) the shaman type will stay but they won't print any more shaman cards outside of like, ub characters that are explicitly called shamans in their source material
>>96628168>WotC>ErrataThey couldn't even errata DTK cards to use Behold. The only time you'll see errata is when they fuck up text on day 1, or for Arena.
>>96628188anon they've been doing a LOT of errata in the past few yearsmost of it bad, but they've been doing a lot of it
predictions for reality fracture:>emrakul comes back/new eldrazi titans are born in the blind eternities >phyrexians come back/try to break out>same with bolas >planes start collapsing on each other>time spiral type set with altered versions of cards displaced in time, space and/or planes>effectively mending 2.0
>>96628188holy shit shut up and listen when smarter people are talking
>>96628199I'm the #1 hopefag for them unfucking the eldrazi but I do not think it'll happen, nor am I really sure I want them to happen with hohw bad mtg is right now.Also I kind of doubt they have any big focus on eldrazi in canon without bringing back ulamog and kozilek, the friendship fireball is one of the stupidest things in lore they've done in the past decade.
>>96628205>/mtg/>smart peopleok
>they disneyfied lorwynit's never been so over
>>96628233This has been 100% confirmed since tarkir if not well beforeall returns will be even worse than you can imagineat this point I have more hope for fucking return to lotr than return to lorwyn
>>96628199>>time spiral type set with altered versions of cards displaced in time, space and/or planesplease God make it happen!future sight/time spiral has amazing and unorthodox takes to several of its cards.but nudesigners dash those hopes away from my person...*tips fedora**teleports to flagstones of trokair*
>>96628199We've reached the stage where WotC can reference its own past like food passing through the 4th stomach of a cow. My guess is that RF is going to be a Time Spiral event with none of the charm or creativity of the original. Expect endless variants of the same top selling characters. White Liliana, Evil Loot, more paired legendaries, paired planeswalkers ("Jace and Vraska, Power Couple" or something like that), Universe Beyond cameos. It's going to be double face bonanza because that's the only tool WotC has left to design new cards fast enough for their release schedule. Also it's going to feature a new gimmick type like dungeons or battles.
>>96628249>Top selling charactersAnon literally no one likes loot
>>96628240Agree. The Mirrodin - Time Spiral streak of blocks was and always will be peak MtG. Tbh The Time Spiral block felt like the perfect ending for the game both lore and design wise.
>>96627972Star Trek really brings it all together.
>>96628205Good argument.
Strixhaven Students on Lorwyn.
>>96628283>Don't worry there aren't any HUMANS on lorwyn:)
>>96628283I don't see my boy Quintorius :(
>>96628312quint's been a walker for a whilehe's probably fucking around in some ruins looking for more shit about the fomorians
>>96628199You aren't thinking big enough>all UB become magic canon due to a multiverse crossover and reformation
>>96628340You still aren't thinking big enough>all UBs become the real magic universe>all existing Magic IP characters and planes now become part of a dream world that is no longer continued>all revisit of old Magic planes are now labeled UB while foreign franchises are the main canon
I'm still waiting for the Hitler vs Stalin duel decks
>Gift a tapped mutavault token
>>96628340>A reason to have Spiderman fighting alongside whatever fotm tranimal WotC are trying to push as the face of MagicThey'd fucking LOVE a chance to leech off the popularity of other brands like that, but would the holders of the IP allow it?>>96628349They're definitely going to retire the "Universes Beyond" branding one way or another.Magic is a crossover game now. Weiss Schwarz won.
I can't be upset at Star Trek, I know I should be but I just want a DS9 commander precon
>>96627707A summary on new details of Lorwyn-Shadowmoor.The plane has 4 places the change the denizens of the plane.1.Eternal daytime where all races are locked into their daytime form.2.Eternal nighttime.3.Changing places where day shifts into night or night shifts on a regular basis.4.Eclipsed realms where creatures slowly lose all motivations and transform into husk called calciforms. Their are 2 gods with a distinct cult.1.The sun worshipers of Eirdu want to make the whole plane Lorwyn.2.The moon worshippers of Isilu want to make the whole plane Shadowmoor. The KithkinOn Lorwyn:After the Phyrexian invasion some Kithkin decided to become nomads due to the trauma from the thoughtweft. They are also trying to erase their Shadowmoor counterparts use of the word Mindweft and seek to replace it with Thoughtweft.On Shadowmoor:Kithkin elect their leader monthly by exposing the candidates' secrets. Once chosen they live in a panopticon where they watch every person. When in need of help they choose a Kithkin as their champion rather than seeking outside help. They are so xenophobic that they still use scarecrows that sometimes kill them rather than seek other species help. The BoggartTheir bodies accumulate more magic the longer they age.On Lorwyn:After the Phyrexian invasion they develop writing using pictures like the Chinese.On ShadowmoorAfter the Phyrexian invasion they became more cautious and established territories. Boggart warriors attach iron plates by hammering nails into their bones.
>>96627093kek
I still am failing to comprehend how anyone with a brain that contains 1 or more neurons could ever possibly think in any context, in any situation, under any circumstance that Cutter was an acceptable card to print.
>>96628283Okay so why does Lorwyn randomly have Strixhaven-themed fractals IN ITS FUCKING LANDSCAPE
Why are people complaining about UB sets when in-multiverse magic is getting more attention than ever?
>>96628604>Why are people complaining about UB sets when in-multiverse magic is getting more attention than ever?>More attention than ever.Anon, less than 100% is less than 100%.
>>96628604>Getting a few shittily written books or comicsWhoppidoo, Magic is saved!
>>96628604>in-multiverse magic is getting more attention than ever?How much of a piece of shit do you have to outright lie in a situation where literally every fact within said situation instantly, unequivocally and absolutely disproves that lie?Like holy fucking shit man.>"But we're doing all this shit nobody cares about!"We want the game. THE. GAME. To be Magic.
>>96628604I, for one, can't wait for all this stupid corporate slop garbage to completely fucking fail.We already know the level of talent WotC writers have. It'll be a cold day in hell before they produce even a single thing that's actually worth reading or watching.>"Magic is in a huge growth cycle"l m f a o
>>96628503The MerrowThey use a type of glamour called Glamer that can change their appearance and voice.On Lorwyn:They are now merchants. They speak in a polite language that is layered with insults to those in the know.On Shadowmoor:They are now con artist. After the Phyrexian invasion they gained bioluminescence and even poison compounds in their bodies due to their new diets.The ElvesOn Lorwyn:They are eugenicist that hold their racist beliefs in secret. They redirect their public racism onto wanting to destroy Shadowmoor. Their caste system collapsed.On Shadowmoor:They view themselves as the most morally superior.The FlamekinAfter the Phyrexian invasion many Flamekin became Rimekin while the Cinders diminish in numbers.On Lorwyn:During the Phyrexian invasion many Flamekin went into hibernation underground. Some woke up as Rimekin. Some still haven't woken up. They have become the best blacksmiths.On Shadowmoor:Most Rimekin moved to Shadowmoor and have become the dominant flamekin there. After the Phyrexian invasion many Cinders became Rimekin while the others stopped wallowing in despair.The FairiesThey have a 3 year lifespan.The GiantsThey tend to be younger than Treefolk.The TreefolkAlong with fairies and giants they are considered important enough to have their own section but not important enough to be one of the 5 main tribes of the set.
>>96627187b-but zendikar isn't a meditation realm to begin with..
>>96627669There is no "Sorcerer" type. MtG sorcerers are just wizards. "Sorceresses" in the Final Fantasy games and are almost all female and are just called "witches" in the original Japanese, hence they use the warlock type since that was made for witches.
This event was nothing but good news for me. I'd like anons to look at this post and tell me if they disagree with any of the following four statements:>Lorwyn 2 looks awesome>Strixhaven 2 looks awesome>Reality Fracture is gonna be a decent gimmicky high concept set that will be fun for at least a few plays like War of the Spark and March of the Machines were>There are only 3 sets coming out next year so there's no content bloat
>>96628640Their is now.
>>96628233if you still had any hope after the last couple years I don't know what else to tell you but you a retard
>>96628307>>96628312They probably graduated by now we have new students.
>>96627276>How much longer until we get a Pizza Hut UB? Or Mountain Dew?THE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN
>>96628645>>Reality Fracture is gonna be a decent gimmicky high concept set that will be fun for at least a few plays like War of the Spark and March of the Machines wereI disagree with this cause I bet it's gonna canonize UB shit in the MTG universe
>>96628645Any predictions on the Reality Fracture gimmick? Their excitement for it to hype us up for that set seemed pretty genuine, so now I am INTRIGUED
>>96628604God if i pray for something everyday besides personal matters is for this fucking company to burn and die… What an absolute gaslighter faggot scum and bunch of evil retards this corpo dickheads are is almost unreal…UW is getting more attention than ever with our shitty fiction works nobody cares about!!!Btw don’t forget to buy our 2026 products specially Hobbit, but specially Star Trek and specially TMNT but specially don’t forget Marvel capeshit slop!! All very fitting into Magic!!Fucking die and burn in hell motherfuckers.
>lorwyn eclipsedWhat an appropriate name.
Are there people looking forward to Spider-Man? Everyone I heard is negative.
>>96627694I always wonder how they word the art description when they want to gaslight an artist to do it exactly according to their specifications...>yes we want you to do a parody of the white race just like we did when we put Wagner in apocalypse now, make them bob headed, big comically large eyes and a dumbfuck expression on xheir faces, no this is our artistic vision really no cap fr fr unc
>>96628715Spider-Man already happened anon, and already failed we are now in the Fagatar waiting room. Another UB shit that hopefully fails.
>>96628715BESTSELLINGSETEVERINCELTHISGAMEWASNEVERYOURS
>>96628686We'll cross that bridge when we get there, anon. I remember when there were people here convinced that March of the Machines was gonna lead to all creatures becoming planeswalkers.
>>96628735I mean, if they decide to ignore the old guard and cater exclusively to the newfags, is there any chance of meaningful consequences?
>>96628741You cross the bridge, last time wizards ever saw a cent from me was the dominaria prerelease after a 10 years hiatus, I actively convinced my group of 11 people not counting myself to never purchase sealed product ever again and always proxy.
>>96628650This is the shaman type isn't it?They're retroactively changing shamans into sorcerers aren't they?
>>96628696I don't know, I think it's interesting that Mark said that it was something that Aaron told him couldn't be done in a single set.1) Why not have it be multiple sets, then?2) Sounds like it isn't just a simple Planar Chaos or "Marvels What If but In Magic" kind of situationWith that said, and in a similar response to what I said to the other guy, Mark Rosewater was hyping up that "Magic was gonna change forever" in 2023 because of March of the Machines. And what we got out of that doesn't feel all that impactful (Battles and omenpaths in the story), so I'm guessing it's just gonna be another fun little gimmick, just like War of the Spark and March of the Machine was
>>96628749Meanwhile, I only buy product to draft with from real sets. Bought and enjoyed Tarkir and Duskmourn. Did not spend any money on Final Fantasy (Nor have I bothered proxying any of it).Right now I'm waiting for Lorwyn.
>>96628701What's the point of fearmongering a set we already know looks good? Bit too late, mate.
>>96627893What.... What am I looking at here? It looks like an elongated crab.
>>96628769>AislingOH BOY A UR LOOTER I'M SO GLAD WOTC IS SO CREATIVE AND WE KEEP GETTING MORE SUPPORT FOR THE SAME FUCKING ARCHETYPE IN EVERY FUCKING GODDAMN SET OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SET
>>96628748They aren't catering to "modern audience" anymore now that they see what scalpers have done for Pokemon. Legitimate sales are secondary in favor of distancing themselves from variance by adding another middle man after their distribution deals. Scalpers buying up distributor inventory encourages distributors to take deals that favor Hasbro.
>>96628769>the first 6 cards they shown as advertisement>the maro's post dates months prior>as if the last 10 years of magic haven't been utter shit2/10 made me reply, after you're done dilating go open an ikoria booster pack you creepy ugly troon.
>>96628778To be faaaair, its the only thing they can do to make sure Commander doesn't go under by just being the same sixty staples for a given color identity. You get an illusion of choice rather than archetype creativity.
>>96628769Looks like forced soul, looks like a skinwalker wearing lorwyn's face.
>>96627946No.
>>96628769Sorry can anyone explain to me why BLUE aisling is adding fucking mana?I guess blue got Vigilance, Reanimator and every other fucking thing under the sun, so why the fuck wouldn't it get mana ramp? Fuck off WotC.
>>96628753No, apparently it's just a new type. Shaman will presumably sometimes show up where appropriate, and a lot of things that WERE Shamans in the past will become Sorcerers or Druids.
>>96628780>He spends his time posting in a general of a game he thinks hasn't been good in a decadeKWABYou do realize that even among the shitposters here, you are an irrelevant minority, and that the majority of us wouldn't be playing this game occasionally if we didn't think there was still good in it, right? Your opinion is completely worthless.
>>96628791Technically while the side itself is mono-Blue, the card itself is Izzet because only the front-half is castable. Temporary mana is very much in Red's wheelhouse.
>>96628233>they Disneyfied the Disney planeoh no the horror
>>96628800>Technically while the side itself is mono-Blue, the card itself is Izzet because only the front-half is castable. Temporary mana is very much in Red's wheelhouse.OKAY BUT WHY IS THE BLUE SIDEWHICH COSTS U TO TRANSFORM INTOTHE SIDE THAT IS MONO-BLUE AND REQUIRES BLUE MANA TO GET THE EFFECTPRODUCING RITUAL MANAI DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE FRONT HALFTHE BACK HALF IS THE SIDE THAT DEMANDS BLUE
>>96628813I don't appreciate the design, but I do think it's relevant that you need to have paid red to even be able to flip the card in the first place.
>>96628813Because you've already paid Red for it, and then you have to additionally play Blue to get that effect. Blue also does tend to dabble in temporary mana, though ONLY adding blue, so any colour is in fact a departure for it. I assume the hurdle of having to pay Red first makes it 'okay', but who knows.
>>96628753maro said (i know i know) that sorcerer is basically a replacement for shaman, but the shaman type will still exist and only a few shaman cards will be erratad to sorcerers.i think this likely means that they won't be making any more shamans going forward, and the d&d shamans will be retyped as sorcerers
>>96628819>I don't appreciate the design, but I do think it's relevant that you need to have paid red to even be able to flip the card in the first place.It is not, you retard.Here:>Creature>1R>Captain Retardo Shitgoblin>Creature - Goblin>U, T: Add two mana of any one color.Are you saying this ability is not a color pie break?
>>96628813>PRODUCING RITUAL MANASeeing as it makes mana at start of main phase it's more akin to a mana dork than a ritual as it needs to be in play already. It even nets one mana.
>>96628826>Because you've already paid Red for it, and then you have to additionally play Blue to get that effect. Blue also does tend to dabble in temporary mana, though ONLY adding blue, so any colour is in fact a departure for it. I assume the hurdle of having to pay Red first makes it 'okay', but who knows.ACTIVATED ABILITIES STILL HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE FUCKING COSTS OF THOSE ABILITIESYOU RETARD"U, T: Add two mana of any color." IS NOT ACCEPTABLE JUST BECAUSE IT'S STAPLED TO A FUCKING RED CARD.
>>96628829>>96628831I don't think it is. Blue gets mana that can only be used for specific things.
>>96628503>>96628633Yep, I expected them to narrow the tribal theme down to five two-color draft archetypes. I guess that explains why the shock lands in EoE wasn't all allied or all enemy colors, they were filling in the five color pairs they weren't using for the lorwyn tribes.So, going off of the land cycle and the cards we've seen so far,Merrow - Blue and polite in the day, white and deceitful at night. (?????)Boggarts - Black hedonists in the day, red and warlike at night, same as before.Kithkin - Hard to say, but I assume they'll be more green in the day and primarily white at night.Flamekin - Red in the day and blue at night. Guess they contrived the idea of rimekin since they wanted to dedicate red/black to goblins and they needed a red/blue tribe so that each color gets two tribes.Elves - Black narcissists in the day, green at night, same as before.
>>96628839meant to reply to >>96628835
In addition of illustrating the state of MtG, the Spiderman set also shows how degenerate cape comics are. Want a "new" hero? Just put "spider" in front of whatever you want and that's it. Then recycle the same stories forever.
>>96628839>I don't think it is. Blue gets mana that can only be used for specific things.A) It shouldn't. this fucking trend is retarded, blue gets COST REDUCTIONS, not mana production.B) Abilities aren't spells, you desperate shill retard. They are different things, and blue getting one does not mean it should get the other.>"Blue can untap creatures, so it should get Vigilance!"You fucking brainded cromagnon retarded FUCKING IMBECILES THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE FIRST FUCKING THING ABOUT GAME DESIGN.
>>96628839Well, let's see. Blue's mana-producing has typically come in three forms: Adding Blue, sometimes with restrictions, sometimes not. Adding Colourless, usually with restrictions. And untapping any other permanent which technically counts as mana-producing.https://scryfall.com/search?q=color%3DU+%28game%3Apaper%29+function%3Amana-producer&unique=cards&as=grid&order=nameThat said there is precedent for adding any colour, albeit it's usually been more restrictive.
>>96628283Kaladesh?
>>96628855By comparison the only other "any colour" mana-producer Blue has had is this, which is still restricted.
>"Blue gets to cast artifacts with mana, so it should get to add any mana to cast anything."As if black removing enchantments, blue vigilance, blue reanimator, red infinite card advantage, the list goes ON AND ON AND ON wasn't fucking enough.There is literally not a single corner of this game's integrity that sills won't leap out of the woodwork to defend the destruction of.
>>96628859i think the rivers in lorwyn are like that because the merrows engineer and divert them according to their needs
I just came back after 25 years. I wish they never left the look of the older cards without the borders on the names and card type. It's a lot cleaner and makes it look mysterious.
>returning player here
>>96628880agree modern borders are overdesigned forced modernity slop
>>96628859>>96628878Have the marrows developed schizophrenia?Oh wait I guess the whole plane has, everyone has multiple personality disorder now. FUCK, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE MAKING IT WOKEAnyhow, I'm pretty sure the artist didn't put thought into it at all and just wanted to draw a swirly lake. They were probably inspired by that kaladesh island but had no idea there was a reason for kaladesh having spirals everywhere.
>>96627866Magic hasn't had nice art in over a decade.
>>96628919Post what you would consider to be the most recent nice Magic art then.
>>96628662I like exactly none of these character designs.
>>96628662fatass owl lol
>>96628919I disagree. Every set has some nice art.
>>96628926This is 100% some mentally ill persons dnd character
MtG is so fucking trash now that I'm starting to get into Pokemon and just collecting waifu cards.
>>96628943I bet the whole group is the party of a D&D campaign that they were running as a "brainstorming activity" during paid hours that could've been put towards playtesting instead.
>>96628604>the netflix animated series is in full productionIt has been how many years?
>>96628953Why?
>>96628924nta but I think most of the art shown for Lorwyn is goodthis goofy looking guy is neat
>>96628976He literally just told you. Because "MtG is so fucking trash now". It's right there in the post.
>>96627714BItterblossom is one of my favorite cards, I still play faeries to this day whenever possible and I have a art binder with almost all of the cards Rebecca has touched, but I don't like thisIt feels like it is trying too hard, I don't know
>>96628986No, why collecting cards? Why not play the game? Nobody plays Pokemon, they just collect cards.
>>96628989It's just a different hobby, I suppose. The TCG isn't that good, compared to MtG, just because of how mechanically simple it is. But at least Pokemon is Pokemon and not Fortnite.
>>96628983cockmonger if he god
>>96628953>MTG is so trash that I'm getting into a game that's even more trash than MTG currently is and has nothing in common with itThis feels like a shill post of some sort but I can't prove it. I can't imagine a real person actually coming to this sort of conclusion.
Uh chuds? Maybe redditsister has a point here.
>>96629006>They don't have to buy every product.Good point!I won't be buying every product.
>>96629006The point is that what I want to buy, Magic, becomes more scarce.
>>96629006>you want to play the formats you enjoy?>you enjoy competitive play?>ummm sorry sweetie, you WILL play spiderman and dwight schrute or you won't get to enjoy the game you enjoy
>>96628987Yeah her new art style is completely different from her old one, I don't like it much either.
Sooo after yesterday announcement this game is confirmed beyond salvation right?
This is the fantasy of the target audience by the way.
>>96627779>>96627698While it would still be UB slopWhy didn't they just try and go for the Silmarillion? At least that way you'd never run out of characters the same way the Hobbit would, and most of it is high fantasy enough it wouldn't look too out of place (at least for a UB set)
>>96628987I know the feeling. I'd wanted an RG Serra since Urza's Saga, and when it finally happened it was just completely meh.
>>96629006This is a somewhat valid image to me because I'm a draftchad so all these sets ultimately mean to me is that I am just waiting a longer time in between non-UB sets, which has its positives.But the problem lies in the slippery slope. I was one of the people that defended all the Secret Lair UB shit because I didn't care. It didn't affect me at all. Now ever since FF, this stuff DOES affect me and I have less sets to play. I'm not gonna go out of my way to defend this when it could very well mean that I'll have no sets to play in 2027. Or only 1 set to play.And it goes without saying that Constructed players can't avoid these cards like I can. Especially paper constructed players.
>>96629024>I equip my Parents with La Chancla and then my Parents attack.
>>96629006Then what i will do when the new Vivi aka Blacked Panther becomes a format staple? Or when Spock, crew genius enables the new winner combo? Should I just do what Stroontards do now and cry meanwhile i wait for bans?I’m more than glad buying only Lorwyn, Strix and Eldrazi sets but we are talking about 4 FOUR outside of Magic full sets are you telling me they will stay power level for 4 whole sets? Nice joke. Also UB is a cancer that redditor should get AIDS for being such stupid faggot.
>>96629046Damn, I guess you were a massive retard all along, huh?
>>96629058/tg/ MTG doomposting is wrong 80% of the time. You were right here. Big whoop.
>>96629037>Why they didn’t go for good IPs instead of choosing Stark Trek, Ninja Turtles and Marvel? Because they are absolutely stupid that’s why. They don’t even care about the quality of the product they are willing to completely sell it of to the first dying IP is willing to market themselves into this shit
>dandan secret lair>the creator of dandan wasn't even informed
>>96629060I genuinely just don't see how anyone couldn't see it coming. Commanderfags had been ruining the game for years already. The Commanderification of Magic was always going to be a bad thing.
>>96629062>WotC: You created it? We created it.>Next stop: Premodern horizons and secret lairs. What do you mean we don't manage that format? We do now.
>>96629062>Rhystic Studies and informed playersHuh? Is he talking about the youtube guy?
>>96628983Looks like a troon penis.
>>96629066This, just this. Every single UB defender is a Cummander faggot, they destroyed this game and eat it a whole because they are willing to spend money to play the casual version of what was the best TCG in existence. Now cards are designed for it, sets need to cater to that player base and the whole game revolves around it. A disgrace.
>>96627839I have seen more "How do I sell my collection" or "What are some other games like MtG" questions in the past 48 hours than I think I have ever seen on any of the subs, people are hating this shit everywhere (as they should).
>>96628813It seems to be blue's restricted mana but for MV plus 4.
>>96629066I still don't really understand the rationale of making these UB sets Standard legal and I don't see how it even benefits Memeander players. Seems like it's a loss for everyone involved.
>>96628233After you saw what they did to Tarkir you are somehow surprised?
>>96629080>It seems to be blue's restricted mana but for MV plus 4.>"It ramps, but only to spells with mana values you can reach immediately after ramping!"So, it's just fucking regular ass unrestricted ramp
>>96629081They're trying to drag commanderfags into Standard to revitalise it so they can make more money with the normal MTG sets. For some reason they don't understand that the kind of player who enjoys Standard wants lower power-level, mechanically interesting MAGIC THE GATHERING cards and not Spider-Man commander cards in disguise.
>>96629083Which is a red thing now, yeah.
>>96629086Great.It's a mono-blue that uses blue mana to get.
>>96629081They have to pay for the artists, card designers and print the cards anyway. The commanderfags will eat this shit as is, but force feeding it to standard player too means more sold packs.
>>96629006Has been proven time and time again that since mythic rarity to buy every product it would cost you the sum of several airplanes.Nobody is buying product except this demographic who buys loose packs and doesn't even know the rules of the game, sometimes it plays commander.Mtg since mythic rarity has been a self-sustaining ponzi scheme, also they print a parallel currency that's not being regulated, would have never happened if hasbro and wizards weren't under total jewish control.
>People tought 2025 was the worst Magic year.>The 2026 isn’t even here and is already worse than current yearAre they doing this on purpose or something?
>>96629088The front side is red. You need to pay red to play it.If anything, be angry that it's an izzet card with nothing but red effects.
>>96629075Yes he told him about it.
>>96629061I know stupid question and what notsuch a shame"I cast Ancalagon the Black" has a different ring to it than "I cast Captain Kirk"
>>96629081$$$
>>96629110"Ancalagon the African-American" has a different ring to it than "Captan Kirk, Audacious Leader"
>>96629006>dont like it>you can just stop talking about itWee
>>96629127Why do you mentally ill incels still care about the Epstein list?
>>96629081With yesterday's announcements we can solidify something that was already thought by many based on 2025's offerings - WotC / Hasbro wanted to significantly up the number of sets per year, but the problem was that with their current staff / resources / development cycles this wouldn't be possible. A way to speed up this cycle is to make some sets not require much work at all because all of the characters, settings, style, etc already exist. Enter UB sets. It isn't a mistake that Spider-Man looks phoned in, because it was. Expect the same from all future UB sets."Why did FF do so well, then" you ask? That is because unlike every other UB offering it was in development for a full 5 years - something that will not be the case for these sets going forward. TL;DR - $$$$$
>>96629092WAS IT THERE ANY DOUBT AT ALL?
>>96629081But do you see how Standard players not buying UB hurts Hasbro's bottom line.
>>96629122You aren't going to racebait me into being hyped for a UB set.
>>96629141That explains why final fantasy was so good compared to spiderman
>>96629006>don't like it, don't buy itok>WAIT COME BACKno
imagine telling people 10 years ago that the MtG-FF crossover would be a shining light in a sea of shit at one point
>Star Trek setI want Redshirt tokens and a draft archetype built around sacrificing them.
Are you a better man yet?
>>96629169It also explains why it is a good draft set, too. The only mistake was Gavin pushing Vivi too hard.
Star Trek SS13 Secret Lair.
>>96629141Multibillion dollar company btw.
>>96629184I'd say "there's zero chance there won't be a redshirt card with a death trigger" but I said the same thing about gwen stacy and they dropped that ball so who knows
>>96629232The existence of Spider-Gwen has eroded any significant the original had as a character rather than a moment. In a set full of legendary creatures I can understand her not making the cut. There definitely will be some Redshirt fodder common or uncommon, but I'm not sure what would be a flavorful trigger to give it.
>>96626979What do you mean star trek doesn't fit in with magic? Did you not see EoE anon?
My LGS is planning on doing occasional premodern events in the near future. I'm about to show up to those using as many secret lair and UB printings of premodern cards as I can get.
>>96629261Yeah furby and instant ramen are magic-adjacent.
>>96628188Behold is different because you can behold a dragon on the battlefield, not just one in your hand like the older cards. So kind of hard to errata
By the way the empty cardboard boxes for the final fantasy collector boosters are selling for 50 bucks on the internet.
>>96629261False equivalence. EoE is pulpy science-fantasy, not sci-fi.
>>96629304Anon that was a joke.
Honest question from a former obsessed MtG fan who is now a tourist after years of disgust with the game made me drop it around Dragons of Tarkir. Do they still have the prohibition on guns? If yes, how the fuck do they do a 40k set, a star trek set, a final fantasy set? Do they keep the ever decreasing number of MtG original settings as gun free swords and spells affairs while letting the crossover sets have firearms, or do the space marines all use melee weapons and FF gunners are Sir Not Appearing In This Expansion Set?
>>96628199>Witness Jace's ultimate creation as he becomes the architect of a twisted new reality in Magic's latest set! Jace Beleren,once a dedicated defender of our Multiverse, has created an entire alternate Multiverse shaped in his misguided image. In this thrilling reimagining, fight for the fate of reality alongside dystopian mirror reflections of familiar characters. Imagine, what if Chandra were a cold and calculating ice mage instead of the defiant fire mage we know and love? Or, what if Liliana haddedicated herself to the healing arts rather than her signature necromancy? Explore beloved characters and cards made new in the ripples of an alternate reality. This is the culmination of Jace's machinations as he seeks to replace the Multiverse we know with one of his own design. From his towering stronghold, Jace oversees this distorted realm as his power spreads throughout his new Multiverse. Color-shifted characters have become his allies and are devoted to making Jace's new creation the true Multiverse. Will his reign reshape the Multiverse forever, or will this dark reality be his undoing?That’s it. No eldrazi, no Bolas, only Jace.
>>96628963For this iteration, like one, and the show runner's said he's been working on it for a couple years now. There's at least more news about it than the last version.
>>96629313Yes. We had a Cowboy set without guns, but with zappy lightning rods.
>>96629319this, but it's Loot instead of Jace
>>96627097this is an event that happened before the game, Kefka puts a mind control device on Terra and tests it by making her pilot a magitek armor and kill 50 imperial soldiers while he laughs about itIt's a flashback you see when Terra regains her memory, hence the flashback
>>96629037Because people know the Hobbit but don't know the Silmarillion. It's that simple.
>>96629122The card name for Kirk seems to be "Captain Kirk, Boldly Going", assuming that's his only card (it won't be). Apparently it's covering the entire franchise but the absolute lion's share will be TOS and TNG.
>>96629313No, the UB sets have guns. It's only the UW sets that don't.
>>96629324>>96629341So is it that the MtG sets are still so afraid of guns despite having (from what I've seen) cars, planes and modern fashion, but the collab sets can just have whatever? I was under the impression when they did the vehicle set (it was after I dropped out, the Indian themed one iirc) they were very specific that they didn't want people playing with cards that had guns on them in the "social and political climate" or some similar thing, I presume all of the moralising went out the window when licenses were available or something?
>>96629202As long as it's not TG/SS14 based. Actual tranny shit at this point because nearly the entire dev team for TG/SS14 is trannies and are hellbent on making the game as cucked as possible.
>>96629341Even then their presence in UB sets tends to be minimised, or they're the more outlandish guns. Real-world or close-to-real-world guns just usually aren't there or aren't prominent. This is basically the one exception I can think of.
>>96629328Nope, only Jace. I’m not posting the actual full spoilers since JOTC laced the email with an ID number. The full thing is even more retarded than what some people know.
>>96629319>>96629357If this is true that's disappointing because they're just making Jace evil now because... I dunno trauma makes you evil.
>>96628081This. I have grown to love that faithless looting art over the years for that reason
I like Faithless Looting because it's a proper art piece. People scream slop, but she just has a hand for that quasi-photorealism.
>>96629428Having an intentional unique personal style is the definition of soul. I don't personally like the art, but the game is better off for having it.
>>96629428With Looting I could respect the talent but found the piece hideous on a magic card. Harmonise was significantly better in that regard, suited shrinking to a card frame better. Full scale, the Looting is an interesting piece.
>Gideon dead>Chandra's indian>Jace's evilHow will WoTC yassify the remaining 2 members of the gatewatch? Feels like it's been a long time since we've seen Nissa.
Your locals have Commander Duel format? I just came back and it's popular in players in mine. I bought a Standard deck and now I'm considering buying a Commander deck.
is it too late for more funi TQ cards
I really don't mind stupid SLDs simply because you just basically never see them IRL but they really make the game look bad on social media.
>Teased 60-card decks are not Challenger decks>They are shitty theme decks with basic lands, 8 common taplands, no sideboard and about $15 of value >Most of the cards included are from Ixalan so they will rotate soon anywayYou can't make this shit up.
Who is the actual cultript of the actual state of this game? Who we should attack? Because I don’t think Rosewater is the answer.
>>96629605Commander is the end of Magic. No other TCG can compete with commander's popularity, and commanderfags have already proven they will accept whatever slop WotC injects into the game. Every decision WotC makes about the game is to appease commander players, and it is ALWAYS to the detriment of non-commander formats. Some busted ass shit that was designed around there being 4+ players? Its now rotated Legacy (again). Unsets being made black-bordered? They need to be so I can run my heckin attractions deck in my pod. 50% of the rares in a Standard set being build-around Legends that suck complete cock outside of commander? Commander. LD/MLD/Mana denial no longer viable strategies? Commander players find them unfun. UB is also because of Commander, when WotC realized they could ride the EDH gravytrain and turn every popular character from any IP into a commander.
>>96629605Financially? The entire blame is on Hasbro for being greedy kikes who want line go up which explains the loss of Draft boosters and pack count for boxes.Gameplay wise? It’s entirely on Gavin Verhey as lead design and his sycophant team for pushing FIRE design.Both have ruined this game forever
>>96629605stop defending the kike, faggot. Hasbro corpos own him like they own all this game and all comes from the greed and the need to catch external customers because have a perfectly functional game with a huge playerbase that enjoyed product and a really popular side product was not enough. Everything must coonsoom, every customer must suck the dick, every format must suffer external IPs, the line must go up, at least in the short term… and he is okay we all of this.
>Magic x Playstation
>>96629605hasbro and whoever came up with FIRE design
>>96627779Why does fucking everything need to be the marvel movie drop schedule nowCan’t we have some mystery? Some excitement? Do I need to know every set over a year in advance?
>>96629713Why are you giving up?
>>96629717Take your meds.
>>96629603>spell snare is getting printed into pioneerthat's actually kinda huge, 1 mana counter cutter or any other proactive 2-drop sounds great
>>96629612Number go up forever and -faster-
>>96629300>Behold is different because you can behold a dragon on the battlefield, not just one in your hand like the older cards"or controlled a Dragon as you cast this spell"it's the same. unless there's some extremely minor distinction that I'm not grasping between the fact that the one is listed as an additional cost that "chooses" a dragon (which can't be responded to), and the other is just an "if" with no reference to cost. but boy it would have to be narrow.
>>96629662It's a bit odd that Sony is saying it's only those 7 cards; but the Magic site is implying it's going to be way more than 7
>>96629723Why meds? Hasbro's bottom line is the primary driving factor of any action WOTC takes. That's not some fucking rocket surgery.
>>96629734Their own site shows it's not just 7 cards, it's 7 drops (TLOU, TLOU2, OG God of War, new God of War, GoT, Uncharted and Horizon). Presumably all the ones shown on the site are all the unique ones though. https://blog.playstation.com/2025/09/26/first-in-depth-look-at-magic-the-gathering-secret-lair-x-playstation-collaboration-launching-this-october/
>>96629141>WotC / Hasbro wanted to significantly up the number of sets per yearThe thing, though, is that they already confirmed it's gonna go back to 6 sets next year.
>>96629754Or rather, in 2027
>>96629655it's odd because he genuinely looks so friendly and wholesome and Midwestern and not Jewish, I mean how many jews wear flannel? but then his actions and words are so typically slippery and kikey that I can hardly believe the guy producing them looks like that. idk maybe that's just me
>>96629754If this is true, I'm gonna say we can place the blame at Spider-Man's feet. Spider-Man becoming a bigger set meant it had to "take up" a release slot, and thus it pushed a lot of things forward, but one thing in 2026 wasn't able to be moved to 2027 (probably Star Trek because it's the 60th anniversary next year) so they just sort of said fuck it and did 7 sets.
It’s funny to see WOTC making the same mistake as Peter Jackson with The Hobbit (trying to adapt it to the same scale as LOTR despite it being 1/10th of the length). >>96629713>commies>/pol/Lol
>>96629729This guy's first ability is functionally exactly the same thing as Ward 2, but they've never errata'd it. His second ability has been basically replaced with stun counters on modern cards but that's technically mechanically different since counters can be interacted with. Weirdly enough, they printed an uncommon in Dominaria United that clearly references him, Frostfist Strider, a blue giant with ward and an etb that taps and stuns a creature. So they clearly haven't forgotten he exists, they're entirely aware that they've keyworded both of his abilities.
>>96629784>It’s funny to see WOTC making the same mistake as Peter Jackson with The Hobbit (trying to adapt it to the same scale as LOTR despite it being 1/10th of the length).Nah, that's not a mistake here.You could absolutely make 3 sets worth of LOTR shit, one for each book, and you'd still have leftover space.With Hobbit, you can have one set for that book and it will still also have some leftover space (Though not enough for another set)It's not nearly the same thing as 3 2+ hour movies
>>96629800I feel like they already were stretching things a bit with LOTR having so many versions of the same character (I understand why that's a thing, to show different steps in a character's journey, hell they're even doing that in Magic-universe sets now but it felt crammed regardless) but presumably it won't have as much of a legends matter theme so maybe they'll trim that down a bit. We'll probably still get like 3 Bilbos though, because of course.
>>96629810That's just cause Memeander so we need MORE LEGENDARIES and they don't want to use the lesser known characters. Even if they went with a more soulful approach, there would still be space. There was plenty on the cutting floor for the LOTR set.
>>96629800>With Hobbit, you can have one set for that book and it will still also have some leftover spaceComplete bullshit and you know it. The great majority of the legendary creature candidates are going to be the same color. We’ve got about 5 iconic scenes to make non-creature spells out of. They were already scraping the bottom of the barrel of recognizable characters and situations with the LOTR set because of the need to print enough cards in each color.
>>96629800Reddit spacingNewfagIs a WOTCShill
>>96629839>He's STILL falling for the reddit spacing psyop from the mid 2010sYou're the newfag here, I'm afraid
Bros, I love Lorwyn so fucking much.
LoTR was a shit set pumped up only by people who widen their mouths on their youtube thumbnails.
>>96629842>every board getting ruined by election tourists is a freaking psyopI don’t know if you remember the Brandon years but you regularly had anons derailing this general to wistfully remember how awesome and fun the 2016 election was for them and explicitly talking about posting on Reddit.
>>96629662I don't want to ask for more UB trash but if they're gonna make a whole-ass Sony SL it's extremely lame that it's just the same three IPs they always shill. Where's the vib ribbon, where's gravity rush, where's crash or ape escape or parappa
>>96629898That's fine, anon, but "Reddit spacing" well predates reddit. That was a joke that was played on newfags to make them shadowbox with ghosts. It's crazy to still be falling for that shit in 2025.
>>96629919It's all humans too, where is Spyro, Ratchet or Sly?
>>96629932Of course it predates Reddit. Nothing has been truly novel online for a very very long time.But your revisionism is retarded. It was clear who was an election tourist by how they posted in tandem with the line breaks. Obviously you had oldfags who kept doing it (because why would they care?), but it’s like wearing a trench coat in the middle of summer in the electronics section of the supermarket.
I like Lorwyn but this card is so weird to me…
They have to put at least 100 superheroes in the marvel set, right? Circa 100 legendary humans. They also have to up the powerlevel so that all the uncommon legends are playable for commander. I can't wait for the shitstorm. Maro said he was the lead designer for the set.
>>96626658I bought one of the fallout decks and even though I think they did a good job with the set, seeing the crossovers like spider man and whatever the fuck, I genuinely feel guilty about it. I just try to remember it's a silly multidimensional wizard setting where anything can happen. When I was a teenage stoner, pitting Mr House against an army of forest elves would have been epic but now I just feel like a faggotAlso, am I crazy for hating the naming conventions in crossover cards? Like "Cloud, Midgar Mercenary", "ed-e, faithful eyebot" "Samwise, portly faggot".It's like when you got an okay toy from mcdonalds but they ruin it by writing the latest movie in the franchise on it.This shit bothers me to the point that my friends are sick of hearing about it. Just call the fucking card Cloud.
>>96629974Be prepared for She Hulk (already in the cover) Negro Panther (already in the cover) and other stupid characters that don’t fit Magic at all.
>>96629974>so that all the uncommon legends are playable for commanderI don't think so, the vast majority of UB uncommon legends are pretty shit, not just in commander but everywhere else
>>96629499Every once in a while, my LGS often replaces the regular commander FNMs with alternate events and duel commander has been one of them and it has actually been received the most positively out of all the commander variants although I have not tried it myself.
Bartholdi!
>>96629974I'm hoping we get some good deep cuts if nothing else, and one of those niche-ass characters ends up being the busted one.Personally I'm hoping for Darkhawk.
>>96630049It's not super deep, but I'd love to see our boy Bill get some attention. >love me some annihilators
>>96627990i like sorin markov.
>>96629319called it with the timeshifted cardsi guess i should have guessed "jace put his evil plans into motion" but i just can't think of him as a believable villain
Leaker here, this little character will become a fleshed out character and their actions will decide Lorwyn's fate.
>>96630099Nah, not legendary.
Seriously when's the last time a Secret Lair actually had really good art? They shit these things out every month and they all look like shit and ass.
>>96630099you did this last thread bro
>>96630109kelogs
>>96629969i'm a little torn between liking the use of transform cards and hating that it's clearly just cause they don't wanna spend more than one month on a weird plane without humans or fucking ninja turtles
>>96630094Then you’d definitely believe this next one:Jotc plans to go full throttle using artificial intelligence for making “art” on future cards going forward starting with the Jace Multiverse set
>>96629919Sony very intentionally only ever licenses out the few current IPs that they actively want to push.
Why does a saboteur buff the opponent?
>>96630138nah i don't
>>96630151>Horizon Zero Games>Ghost of Yotei>The Last of Us which has the most hated TV adaptation and sequel ever and has been rehashed for nearly 2 decades at this point>Dude Raider, when did the last game for that even come out?They need to fucking stop. None of these games are relevant. Sony is such a shit company. They are almost as bad as WotC.
>>96630049this kind of artstyle is very nice and basically the pinnacle of capegarbage, too bad the cards will all be realistically rendered and awkward looking without absolutely any stylization or use of shapes
>>96630157he's distracting them by throwing supplies and weapons, that's why he's harder to block
>>96630188It looks more like he's smugly groping some orb. Maybe they should have had him give a creature -1/-1 until end of turn when he attacks instead, on top of all the other stuff. I mean, why not? They don't really care about balance.
>>96630157He was sabotaging things, but in the language of others, he was protesting in a fiery but peaceful manner, which created hope in those who witnessed his act.
>>96630170I mean if you hang around normies for a while you notice that most of those franchises are indeed huge, they just don't seem to have any presence among videogame circles online because the people that play those games don't frequent those circles. Sometimes I myself wonder how some of those games are considered huge franchise when I never see anyone talk about them then I speak to some random normies and remember there's a world out there. Except for Horizon, that one in particular is the single most astroturfed franchise ever created.
man every time i play standard i get reminded why I play fucking combos without creatures, every nigger plays red or black, spot removal, spot removal. spot removal...... boardclear and then draw engine ore some kind of reanimator bullshit
>>96630242You used to be able to play creatures until they started printing a fuckton of death-on-untap creatures, so they had to print better removal. Now the game is a cancer arms race.
>>96630109>Seriously when's the last time a Secret Lair actually had really good art?Typically its when its a literal artist secret lair for an artist you already like. The artists choose the cards they do so they get a tailor their art exactly the way they want it to be. Unfortunately this often comes at the cost of lower power
This is why i would never understand this almost obsessive trend of pushing standard as hard. The format is an absolute unplayable shitshow, and that after SEVEN FUCKING BANS and you know what? The format was more bereavement BEFORE the bans, you had cutter right but at least you had pixie, omniciensce and dimir trying to do stuff what you have now? VIVI (almost the totality of the format) vs Monored, ergo you play mountains or you get fucked, and that will remain until November 10 haha awesome.I know people don’t like Pioneer around here but that format has times where it was more enjoyable than this shit show and with half the support they are giving to current Standard.
take me out chief, we are in the nothing matters anymore era, you can release heroes, ninja turtles and spaceships, is time for a reprint lol
>>96630365yeah, pioneer is where I dedicate all my brewing efforts, I can't afford the cards to brew in modern/legacy so pioneer is where I land
>>96630365I enjoy Pioneer the fact they will not support the format this year neither makes me so mad, more mad i mean considering how grim 2026 looks.
WOTC didn’t tell the creator of Dan Dan that they were gonna sell a premium product based on a format he invented but he’s being diplomatic about it publicly so if you point out how fucked up that is you’re a weirdo.
>>96628943It's Down syndrome representation, you bigot
>>96627853things I expect from your immediate future:>actually enjoying things instead of imagining versions of them that upset you
>>96630427>potato tribal
>>96630424rip
Dandan is a reddit game
>>96630488woke is when >>96628701
>>96628081I like her art
>>96630157The sabotage part is the ward. When you target him, he steals your shit.He's a taunting bitch as seen by the art, he makes creatures so furious they get a +1/+1 counter.
Which would lead to the biggest bullshit:Transform creatures or Evoke?
>>96630522Would?
>>96630157Menace is because he's sneakyHigh power low tougness is because he's destructive but fragileWard is because it's costly to target himThe buffing is because he's so annoying that enemies will put in more effort to stopping him whenever he attacks
>>96628784Commander has already turned into that ever since they released Partner. The best decks are just staple piles.
>>96629428It is slop because the composition of it is terrible.>random black textured rectangle in the bg>half the items have texture, others are solid colors>absolutely zero space, notably in the hood and person's face>value of the subject clashes with itself, the person has it but the cups don't make use of it. Then the value in the smoke pulls attention away from the subject when it shouldn't be.It's an absolute travesty of several elements of art. They clearly know how to do art from their other works, but this is just a shit piece from them.
>>96628586>fantasy was used to reflect the worldview of those in powerIsn't that exactly what they are doing?
>>96629603Wouldn't these reprints refresh that card's legality in standard?
>>96630604Circumstances alter cases.
>>96630604Rules for thee but not for me!
>>96630404>tall asking the noses for adequate removalLmao get a load of this goyim
>>96628604>best we can do is lie and hope you dont notice
Just catching up on the constructed portion of the PT. Ben Stark is such a scummy cunt - "I would've pointed out that he missed the trigger, it'd be cheating not to". Then why the fuck did you call the judge over and claimed he'd missed the trigger by attempting to draw a card?
>>96630726Shit like this makes me wonder why I’m even bothering to try and qualify for a PT
>>96630480>waaa mommy my mostly-white IP is still mostly white but slightly less so!
>>96628701he's right
>>96630754https://youtu.be/W171n_v4ZAs?si=sSOOPzRX4aBSoz_8&t=240
Love the dudes who wear suits to the PT. Not enough of it these days.
Hows modern meta?
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>>96630843Grim, we need TOR back
>>96630898So what I'm gathering from your textless reply is that no, you don't want to skip to the part where you declare victory because there's nothing anyone can do about it. Even though that's true. Well fine, have it your way I guess. This design looks great by the way.
>>96630604>Isn't that exactly what they are doing?Yes, it is exactly precisely what they are doing.But you see, they're the good guys so it's okay.
>>96630946>>96630604it doesn't stop there. it actually makes even less sense because, in the first place, Lorwyn was a setting ruled by racial supremacist elves so exactly what was the worldview being reflected there? now of course you could try to backpedal and say "o-oh I just meant that there wasn't any PoC in the card art," but that's incoherent because Lorwyn doesn't even have humans in it (l5 notwithstanding). In a lot of sets you have elves that are obviously white people, but the Lorwyn elves specifically had this fucked up inhuman facial structure that makes them not correspond to IRL continental ancestries. like look at this. you cannot convince me that this is a drawing of a white person. this is a fantasy humanoid.basically Nosewater could have picked almost ANY mtg setting from before 2016 to say that about, and it wouldn't be catastrophically wrong. but he said it about Lorwyn, so it is. wrong, I mean.
>>96630965Who are you quoting?
>>96630949Oh shit, you're right! What a silly misunderstanding.Kill yourself.
>>96630157He's sabotaging (you).
>used EtPE to kill your opponent with their own charbelcher kek
>>96630843I think this really undersells how good Goryo's is, for my money it's easily the most well-rounded deck in the format right now.
If you really need a refresher of which side JOTC leans, simply ask them to reprint Caucasians and see how fast they block you on social media.
>>96626630So sad to see new lorwyn will have double faced cards, I hate those fucking things like you wouldn't believe.
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>>96629006except when the mechanically unique secret lairs powercreep in to tourneys
