Non Vandalized Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/edit?usp=drivesdkPrevious thread:>>96626568Thread Question: what keeps you coming back to /40kg/?
>TQ The lore and the models.
>>96630258>what keeps you coming back to /40kg/?same reason someone goes back to their hometown every once in a while
Does this look like transparent tubes w/ blood in them?
we don't need 3 new threads
Reminder to all US friends - Tariffs are at 30% meaning GW pays 30% up front before they even make a sale. This makes rotting inventory hurt much, much more.As a result, do not expect restocks, and assume that any deal or boxset will be extremely limited
>>96630258>TQmodelposters
>>96630278I already deleted one of those.
>>96630278Well which one is the real thread with the non-vandalized links? And prove to us all that the 'non-vandalized link' really is non-vandalized too.
It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgU_Rtta2w
>>96630258>TQIdk man
>>96630258The Darkest Aeldari are kings
>actually deleted the early throod and not this onegod bless you jannies
>>96630278The other one got deleted, so it’s all good. Praise be to the jannies and to the mod.
>>96630287You can tell by just looking at the link anon. You dont have to click on it.
Thanks jannie.Please stop him making new ones
>>96630288Stick something up your bum valrak
>>96630274thought this was a stormcast model.>transparentNot really but it looks like a blood tube or a red tube.
Based janitor.
>>96630279North America is ~40% of GW revenue they're not going to make things "extremely limited" retard kun they'll probably just be more conservative in stocking.
First time doing a knight (Brigand), can't wait to fuck it up!I hear people do a lot of subassemblies for these, roughly how many groups should I go for?
>>96630312As long as it reads as blood, that's good enough for me. Thanks anon.
>>96630279I've already been cutting out all impulse purchases anyway. I didn't buy Tomb World since I only really cared about the DW/TERRAIN. Might get the necron/raptors box and give/sell the sisters to someone who ants them (or keep them for some weird agents army that has deathwatch, grey knights and sisters?) but that's like 6 months away and might be my only warhammer purchase in 2026. GW has kind of screwed the pooch the last 3 years with price hikes while the economy gets worse.
So took the titan out for it's first game ever. Took some pictures if anyone want a short batrep.
>>96630299That was the worst way to explain to anybody that a link is not a phishing link, anon. I was hoping for technical details.
>>96630258Playing with my own plastic army men.
>>96630288They're doing the TTS thing where they're taking their parody too seriously and letting a joke go on for too long.
>>96630292>court of the archon kill team as Malys' bodyguard because resin was removedBut ur-ghul has a plastic releaseBUT UR-GHUL HAS A PLASTIC RELEASE
>>96630258>TQThe valiant attempts to create a feeling of community after the sharty happening. It's weird really. I feel like the general hasn't been this good in a long time BUT also at the same time so overflowing with raids, shitposting and shitflinging.
>>96630335Lemme hear it.
>>96630320They mightThey might actually do that.
>>96630344Unironically the avatarfagging is the only bad point lately.
>>96630312Did you not see the melta pistol poining at your face?
>>96630336Actually you might be right but I given the nature of this place I don't really trust anyone when it comes to these sorts of things. The waters are already muddied in my eyes and I don't want to take a dip. I sincerely hope that the link is the non-vandalized one.
>>96630355>>>/v/
Does this Votann army list look reasonable for 1000 points? I'm new to the tabletop and still a ways off from playing proper 2000 point games, but a good amount of people in my area play 1000 casually and for escalation leagues, and I would like to git gud enough for the latterhttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/JCf5E
>>96630373Votann suck, and so do you.
>>96630379Yeah I know, I'm trying to suck less
>>96630355It hasn’t been so bad, I’ve been impersonating them by replying to repliers for a bit, and it seems to shut them up. What i’ve seen that is really toxic is how whenever there’s an argument over models or lore it seems as if the people arguing absolutely despise each other over it, and never relax and say “well, I made all my points, and he made his, guess there’s nothing else to say”. just absolute hatred and vitriol all throughout until next thread starts.
Gw is going to have to seriously consider expanding their skirmish formats soon at some point.
>>96630360You can add pistols to stormcast models.
>>96630401They've got like fucking five of them. How many more do they need?
>>96630407How many of them are good?
>TQFriends and camaraderie with my peers
>>96630350Alrighty, First off, It was Spirit Conclave against Pactbound zealots. My wraiths Grudge match against my mate's chaos crusade. The chaos army revolve around large blocks of character supported Chosen and Possessed. Those 3 wounds really throw off most damage calculations. My friend is also FIENDISHLY good at rolling high on the Hit roll, meaning lethal hits out the rear, not good for my high T dudes. Anyway, my plan revolved around using Wraithlords and the avatar to slow down the tide long enough for the Titan to thin the horde. I get first turn and with a Farseer to guide the titan, it actually managed to clear a block of chosen out when using all it's weapons, Given it was the kill mission (can't remember it's name) this was great news for me, and frankly more then I was expecting it to do. -
>>96630292Hell yeah. I fucking love these guys. They are the personification of an early 00s Sasuke AMV with 'Somewhere I belong' and Vergil from DMC as user pic.
>>96630410Spearhead is great and getting a ton of support.Boarding Patrol, Kill-Team, and Warcry are all pretty decent.Necromunda isn't really a skirmish game but it is fun in it's own right. Bloodbowl is very fun but also a bit different.Underworlds is kind of the only real stinker. And Combat Patrol if you even really count that.
>>96630420Helps if I remember the pictures...
>World Eaters don't have Chaos Bikers but do now have black kweens with chainswordsHmmm
>>96630420>>96630429CSM are REALLY fast and basically cross no mans land on foot in turn. I am only saved from a turn 1 charge by his horrible charge rolls. He makes up for it by one shooting a Wraithlord with the vindicator which shoots Absurdly hard, and has a fart strat that makes it untargetable. His duet of daemon princes makes their way up the flank while his cultists spread out and sticky everything.
>>96630438You know you don't have to paint them black right nomodels?
Any enamel wash users here? They can all be applied like the streaking grime meme? Any specific exceptions if they are there? What do acrylic washes have over enamels? I'm like on the edge of giving enamel washes a try. If they are the miracle cheat that streaking grime is hailed as then I might try to paint strip my whole army and go again.
>>96630464>They can all be applied like the streaking grime meme? Sure, streaking grime is just another enamel wash>Any specific exceptions if they are there?panel liners are much thinner so you'll save way more time just running them into recesses like they're supposed to>What do acrylic washes have over enamels?quicker to apply, harder to clean updon't need to varnish your models to use acrylic washes
>>96630452Sadly my counter attack wasn't worth much. The avatar managed to pick off a few possessed, I think the wraithlord killed one as well, but they held and did something like 10 Dev wounds back to the avatar on the clapback . Aww.
>>96630472>don't need to varnish your models to use acrylic washesYou don't really need to with enamels either, I usually don't bother and have yet to mess anything up
>>96630472Thanks. If I could only have one coloured enamel wash for as much application on as many different models of different colours, what colour should that enamel wash be?>>96630495I think I'll varnish anyways to stay on the safe side. I need to learn to properly use my airbrush anyways.
>>96630487>Mixing the old and new possessedSOVL
>>96630507>I think I'll varnish anyways to stay on the safe sideYeah that way you can 100% avoid damaging the acrylics, I was just saying it's usually fine without it.
>>96630487The Chaos turn 2 means everything gets in. Chosen is bad enough but the double Daemon prince means double body slam which pretty much always means 12 mortal wounds, clearing up my line and finishing off the avatar.
>>96630495varnishing is best practice, prevents lifting paint if it doesn't grab onto your primer well, helps enamels/oils flow into recesses better
>>96630258>TQshitposting, genuine questions, collective excitement/hate at new stuff, anon theories. It's just a fun place.
Do you guys follow any hobbyists?Care to recommend ones that do nice kitbashes or ace paintjobs?
>>96630512Turn 3Through unholy amounts of luck the Wraithlord (haven't removed the Avatar yet in the picture) managed to hold due to the Wraithbone Armor strat, holding up the horde for a turn. Sadly a unit of Chosen managed to sneak through and engage the titan in melee.
Did they release the new warhammer heroes in the US yetI like singletons for the odd kitbash
>>96630438Lmao what?
>>96630526Wait a minute is the egyptian robot supposed to be a nemesis the warlock reference?
>>96630546Who and in what way?Google showed me he's a dragon.
>>96630535MEANWHILE on the other flank the two other Wraithlords escorting the Farseer around managed to get within the Vindicator's fart bubble and take it out.
>>96630546I think they're just meant to be Tomb King Ushabti IN SPACE
>>96630564Against expectations the Rangers did also managed to actually SNIPE a character from the cinematics clocktower.
>>96630258>Thread Question: what keeps you coming back to /40kg/?If I'm in a mood for 40k I go here, because where else? I fucking hate this place, but every other site is even worse. Admittedly I didn't check for /40kg/ on altchans
>>96630559>>96630565The face has an uncanny resemblance and 40k does have an origin that is pretty intertwined with Nemesis
>>96630594Pretty sure it's just a tzaangor
>>96630578Turn 4. The titan honestly put up a good amount of worth shooting bricks of chosen, however only having AP1 in melee is painful. The prince duo shows up and does 12 mortals again and despite a valiant fight the the Chaos horde managed to overwhelm the titan.
>>96630258>TQI mostly come here to look at anons models and post my own
>>96630614maybe, but the horns and the eyes remind me a lot of Nemesis along with the beak when he's drawn by certain artists and GW is doing a lot of nostalgia bait stuff nowadays
>>96630452>cross no mans land on foot in turn>I am only saved from a turn 1 charge by his horrible charge rollsThis should be a lot rarer than it really is. Boards are too small nowadays imo
>>96630630We called it by the top of turn 5. Chaos Victory. Honestly if I hadn't rolled so god awful the whole game I think it would have been much closer. Sadly my dice were cursed. In short, the titan is of course not competetive, but it isn't without teeth is supported. I honestly think dropping the avatar for some other units might be the way to go if I wanna keep the titan running. I am not sure about Spirit Conclave, but it does give a nice "back off" effect on people to know the tokens also boost the titan, and the Wraithbone Strat is very ace.Anyway, hope you gents enjoyed.
>>96630649Honestly the size is too small, it's the reason terrain is the way it is now too. I favor something retarded like a circular 6' table with fucked deployment zones. Or just going back to the old size.
So what are we thinking? New sculpts around the corner, bound for Kill Team?
>>96630685Huh. Maybe they are the new kill team. They always seemed like a good fit for it since they have like a dozen weapon options in the box as it is already.
>>96630694>>96630685Could be a KT that's 5 Wracks 2 Grotesques
>>96630685Weird, they don't have the "while stocks last" tag on the storefront. Just online only.
wtf did i just read
>>96630704YnnariThe Aeldari and Drukhari join together in one mighty army, united in their worship of the god, Ynnead.
Can the lore be salvaged at this point?
>>96630716You missed the Warhammer 40,000, speedreader
>>96630716thank you for clarifying
Agents or Grey Knights? I already have SM and CSM armies but the way the former is described at times makes it sound like it's not even an army at all.
>>96630704That's been a thing for almost 10 years at this point, anon
>>96630729No one takes it seriously anymore apart from autists and schizos like pic relJust follow old lore when it was good
>>96630748At this point they are the two most neglected armies in the game. Agents doesn't even have an army role. Grey Knights hasn't gotten the new model in almost a decade. It's possible next Edition will be kinder to them, but who can really say? It could also be worse for them.
>>96630759No one was ever supposed to take it seriously retard-kun. It's a toy franchise.
its not fucking fair bros why do the dark eldari have to look so fucking cool but have one of the worst armies in the game right now. I want to collect them but can't justify the cost to myself......
>>96630748i mean, you can run half of the stuff from GK into Agents already but Agents isn't a real armyif you like their stuff, you can get it and now you have the option to TRY and run it in an army but we all know what this is. Its the faction where someone bought some KT stuff and are interested in using it in 40k but this is the best option they can get
>>96630774pick a different hobby then
>>96630774Might be deals on ebay from people jumping ship
>>96630748You don't collect Agents because you want 'an army' or chase meta. You collect Agents because you got a collection of silly guys in silly clothes from experimental kitbashing, making characters for the 40kRPGs or from hoarding BSF and KTs and want to use them in Big 40.
>>96630774Their new codex is fucking cracked and spectacle of spite is going to be a problem. The Army looks as good as it did 15 years ago and if you like the way they look now then you shouldn't have any problem with the Army to begin with. If you miss all the Finecast resin shit, let me assure you those kits were fucking ass to work with and try to play with. All that stuff will come back eventually I'm sure and then some.
Do you guys repaint your minis?I'm in the process of repainting my Custodes, will have them all as worn gold.I also dropped pic rel and had to change his iron halo eagle thinggy while repainting him gold.I'm not sure I pulled off the under light OSL though.Also I love how none of the Custodes have skulls on them. Its like they dont adhere to the new Imperium fashion sense.
>>96630784wdym ? why would i pick a different army>>96630793what units should i be on the lookout for in particular ?
>>96630805>black and bronze kino turned into generic gold slopgrim
>>96630729The vast majority of perceived problems with the lore come from memes and hyperbolic retellings, not the actual fluff, which is undeniably terribly written if you read novels, but the fundamental world building still holds up just as well as it did 20 years ago.
>>96630801dont do this to me anon, dont give me hopium like this.......did their new codex leak/be revealed ? if so i will 100% start collecting a 2k army. their lore and characters are peak
>>96630292Now that they've figured out how to make pretty faces can they redo Lilith?
>>96630805It's like that image of an artist redrawing his old work with none of the soul
>>96630805>Do you guys repaint your minis?Only if I can paint strip them properly. I'm not sure what the safest method to paint strip cast resin is. Couldn't get a proper clear answer on googling and resin varies from manufacturer to manufacturer so there are too many variables.
>>96630729retcon femstodes and there is nothing wrong
>>96630806Off the top of my head Kabs+boatsLelith+a Wych unitTalosScourge
>>96630836thats the only good lore addition since 8th
>>96630805I was painting AoS for a while before getting back into 40k. By that point I had some painting experience so even my oldest 40k minis are fine to me. I might repaint my first AoS models at some point though.
>>96630801>let me assure you those kits were fucking ass to work with and try to play withThey had their problems but just straight up squatting them while also turning around and giving the Ultrasmurfs yet another redo of their characters models even though the current ones are perfectly fucking fine and not even old is ridiculous
>>96630729Retcon the primarchs to being female and the Heresy will make more sense and by proxy the state of 40k will make more sense with the way it is.
>>96630812The black isnt that good IRL desu.Also I already have BT as a black army.And the black marble base blends in too much with it. Also each of my squad has their own color. I want to uniformise them.Pic rel will all be worn gold with a greenish hue.
>https://youtu.be/XCGQiGEYl4Y?list=RDXCGQiGEYl4Y&t=9you are a guardsman and hear the riddly diddly riddly diddly riddly diddly DUM-DUM approaching your trenchhow fucked are you?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96630805I'm in the process of repainting my poxwalkers. Kitbashedas well. This is the same dude made a little bit different.
>>96630820We can't post PDFs here so go take a look yourself https://www.reddit.com/r/Drukhari/comments/1nfeevr/drukhari_codex_leak_pdf/
>>96630866>Dark-Eldar-Aeldari-Warhammer-40000-Chaos-Space-Marine-8305841.jpg
>>96630853>giving the Ultrasmurfs yet another redo of their characters models even though the current ones are perfectly fucking fine and not even old is ridiculousAre they replacements actually? Or just new units? Because Calgar in a different armor and different Victrix Guard without shields sound like they don't need to replace anything, just be new options
>>96630858>pedo artist
>>96630909There's rumors of the apparently credible variety that Tigerius and Cato are also getting new models
>>96630911We already like him you don't have to sell him to us more
>>96630864all I can think of when hearing wishmaster is that misheard lyrics video from like 15 years ago or something
>>96630911Why amerimutts so mad at 16 yo womens and their intimicy?
>>96630934obsessed poo slathered hands wrote this post
>Troonhammer is saying that the leaked points are going to be dropped from their current priceDoes that mean that the book will have useless points totals at release?
>>96630941>t.le 56% face
>>96630948I thought the books didn't have points anymore?
Space King is pretty awesome satire of Warhammer to be honest
>>96630955lmao how about you get above a small child's understanding of English before pointing poo encrusted fingers
>>96630911"You forgot to attach the gigachad image."
>>96630972how about you stop posting off topic bullshit every time mossas art gets posted you inbred faggot
god i hate elves
>>96630960>satireI think 99% of people don't understand what satire is
>>96630978>jeet calling someone else inbredlmao
>>96630948You mean like all of the Codexes have been for years now?
>>96630992>all the information you need on one sheet edition>except you have to cross reference online documents too
>>96630911if somebody's post puberty it's by definition not pedophilia; that doesn't mean it's not still jailbait or immoral but I feel like zoomers have completely forgotten that term even exists, you have people unironically claiming college students dating high school seniors is pedophilia because of like a three year age gap.
>>96630992I still remember the 9th custode book when it launchedAll your wargear is wrong and most of your points
>>96631001>zoomersevery generation does it
>>96630998That hasn't been true since the start of the edition either
>>96631014That's what they were talking all about in the leadup
>>96630862Are the freehand templars yours? Yours and wip bt anon are my fav templars.
>>96630729Yes, just ignore everything after and including gathering storm
If GW's codexes are terrible then what is a good model agnostic wargame to learn where 40k models can still be utilized?
>>96630960I think the satire is the weakest part actually, the character interactions and the humor built on absurd extremes and reversal of expectations is fine, but this is already the second giant snake-bodied monster that wouldn't have actually killed anyone if it wasn't for the "humans are the real monsters" satireand that is in 3 episodes I'm not saying there shouldn't be satire, but they aren't good or creative with it
>>9663104240k using stolen PDFs or free resources like Wahapedia that compile all the rules in one place and keep them updated.
god i love elves
I wish I was surprised that people still buy codices when they all end up outdated soon after, but even on /40kg/ there are many hardcore consumers.I get it, having the book is nice, especially for the art and fluff, but I'm also paying for the rules, and if someone, especially an international company, can't bother to respect me and the money I spent on their product by making sure the data inside their book stays correct, then I will not buy the book.And that's not adressing the programmed obsolescence that comes from the edition cycles, nor that despite having the opportunity to use digital rules they still somehow fail at delivering that service (because they treat it like a physical book but without the hassle and quality control (which is already lacking) that comes with it).I'm curious to hear why people do buy the books in this day and age.
>>96630960I think a younger me would have enjoyed this series a lot but older me has lost my sense of humor and whimsy somewhere along the way.
>>96631042Unless you go to a GW store or something official like a tourny nobody will care if your entire resources is a printout of a new recruit list or a pdf on a tablet. Long as you know the rules at least.
>>96631059>I'm curious to hear why people do buy the books in this day and age.But you figured it out already>having the book is nice, especially for the art and fluff
>>96631059I've been looking at OPR grimdark future and xenos rampant as alternative books to hopefully utilize 40k models while still having a better gaming experience.
>>96631042We use homerules, can't help you there
>>96631071>the book is niceI mean it's a pretty expensive book for what it is, including the avoidable mistakes.Thank you still for your answer.>>96631072How's that going for you?
The funniest stuff in Space King is when it plays up their daddy issues. "It's no wonder Space King left, I would have left too if I had you as my son"
>>96631080>How's that going for you?Not very well. Especially on tabletop simulator because I swear all the players want to do is bitch about GW instead of actually playing the games.The rules look promising. Naturally it is a given that the ruleswriters are incentivized to write better rules than GW because they aren't exactly the big boys of wargaming.
When are they going to do the special edition of Hereticus? It wasn't this long between Xenos and Malleus right?
>>96631059Some of us have just been collecting them for years now and we just keep going out of habit. Some of us like to own a physical copy to reference during play even if there is errata. And some of us just like to have them to read through on occasion and enjoy the art and pictures while we do.
>>96631059>I know people like having them for the fluff and owning a physical book but I don't get itSeems like you do and just don't have the same taste.
>>96631089Its made for cretins like you who flood the thread with 'le daddy issues'. You probably liked the Abaddon armless memes too
>>96630759Most sane Eldar fan
>>96631059>I'm curious to hear why people do buy the books in this day and age.You wouldn't get it.
Chaos Marine refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96631059The last book I got came with the armybox, I tried to sell it off but nobody gets that shit even when it's "limited edition"it's all scams
>>96631090>most people are on a bandwagonSucks, true, and part of the process of whittling it down to a tight group of likeminded players>rules look promisingI'll have to give them a look, cheers>>96631097Makes sense to me, thank you for your answer and cheers.>>96631099>same tasteI like having the book, but a high price for a book with bad quality control and a whole section that has to be errata'd is not something I'm willing to spend money on.Artbooks? YesAnti-consumer product? NopeI don't think that's what you mean by taste but all I can see from this, right now, is different standards. Which would be fair, you do you, I do me and all.
>>96631120This is meta and I applaud it
>>96631133(((You))) were probably trying to sell it for like $200 or something ridiculous like that lmao
>Necrons are Automatons (heavily armored, slow-moving, hard to kill robots)>Tyranids are Terminids (swarms of bugs)>Tau are Illuminate (combined arms, flying ranged enemies, unarmored melee auxillaries composed of a different species, big mechs with powerful ranged weapons, shield spamming)
>>96631144standard normal codex price, actually
>>96631156eh, illuminates are more like protoss who are more like eldartau have none of the spooky alyum omen
>>96631001Bit of a weird confessional post that nobody asked for anon, the artist has child porn in his likes on Pixiv.
>>96631182nobody gives a shit faggot, you need to go back and stay there
>>96631167>tau have none of the spooky alyum omenIf you're fighting against them they absolutely are. >Ranged weapons which are incredibly powerful and kill you in horrifying ways>Invisible enemies that disappear before your eyes>Cannibal savages that eat you after chopping you up>They even brainwash and mind control your own people to use against youFighting against the Tau basically consists of a combination of "Oh shit he just one-shotted a tank" and "Oh shit where is that fire coming from?" and "Oh shit they're brainwashing other xenos and humans to use against us!"
>>96630805If they're bad or one of my first shitty jobs?They've taken the chem bath in the jar. They must be cleansed of their sins
>>96631156>that bird signI genuinely despise this shit, dumbest fucking religious sign I've ever seen, makes no fucking sense.Taking a look at some of the most famous signs of history (not just religious), they have a clear purpose/signification that matches the doctrine they fall from:Christian do the cross sign, clearly a protection/purity thing.Muslims bowing, submission/prosternation to their godnazi salute: proud and aggressive, militaristicKneeling + hand on heart: I give myself under your command and I swear/devote myself to you.What the fuck does the imperial bird sign fucking mean? This is the kind of shit kids in kindergarten would do. This does not convey protection/fear/hatred, etc.The helldiver sign, simply pumping your fist and standing tall, is dumb and simple, it does its job perfectly.
>>96631059I have no idea. Codexes would be valuable if they were all art, lore and hobbying. Rules are worthless nowadays and the more space rules take in them the less valuable they are.I was tempted to get that Kroot box, but Codex inflating it's price dissuaded me from this. I bought scans instead and printed them
>>96631201>space wolf lubed and ready for tactical insertion
>>96631205>what does recreating the aquila that symbolizes the imperial oath mean???retarded tourist
>>96631192that's quite a stretch, but you do youtangentially speaking, I'm still baffled by how the martian army in 40k doesn't have tripods
>>96631210>cool bundle box>but it has books/3 dozen decal sheets I don't wantHow to make me not buy your product 101.
>>96630258>Thread Question: what keeps you coming back to /40kg/?Predestination
>>96631205>putting your hands over your chest cannot mean oaths or protection
>>96631217What does recreating the aquila mean, anon? What does the gesture convey?You missed the whole point yet call me stupid?I mean that checks out actually, idiots think they know better.
>>96631238>What does recreating the aquila mean, anon? What does the gesture convey?affirming your oath to the imperium you fucking retard
>>96631205>Christian do the cross sign, clearly a protection/purity thing.it's the symbol of a roman execution/torture method that their messiah was martyred on, later becoming the symbol of the religion. there's absolutely nothing inherently associated with protection or purity with the crucifix, it's also symbolic association.the Aquila is the symbol of the god-emperor of mankind, it can be associated with "protection and purity" the same way the cross is by being associated with the Emperor
>>96631237Anything can "mean" anything, anon, that's the magic of langages and codes, but the signs that stick around and work don't simply carry an arbitrary meaning.That's why japanese bow for respect and prostrate themselves for apologies, you put yourself in danger to show trust or submission.That's why a salute has you raising your hand, to be more visible.Are you guys this ignorant of human social norms around the world and eras?>where do you think we are
>>96631269LOL!
>>96631269This has never been funny edgecoc
>>96631242How do people affirm oaths in your country? You ever stopped to think about why?If you show yourself to be stupid again do not expect another reply.>>96631258>there's absolutely nothing inherently associated with protection or purity with the crucifixBruh
>>96631267you're retarded though. you literally used christians doing the sign of the cross as an example of "protection and purity" when the cross was how the Romans executed Jesus and had no religious significance UNTIL Christianity adopted it as a symbol, exactly the same way the Aquila is just a bird and heraldry for the emperor that becomes a religious symbol after 10,000 years of reigning as god-emperor (5x longer than the modern day to the time of jesus)
The universe waited for me to completely abandon my halved green and white colour marine scheme before delivering the perfect easy white recipe (I impulse bought a super light blue for highlighting other stuff).Never going to finish this army.
>>96631286You're a mental midget, further conversation will be fruitless
So after deldar what’s left to be released and are we screwed in terms of releases til 11th next year???????????????
>>96631295Dumbass.
>>96631287>retarded>literallyStopped reading therePeople not knowing about basic history and culture is just painful to see.
>>96631295They'll wrap it up with some campaign book and a few related models, like every edition. This shit is so formulaic by now you shouldn't need to even ask.
>>96631269Someone made this. And even worse, someone posted it
>>96631286>Bruhare you fucking illiterate?>>96631286>>there's absolutely nothing inherently associated with protection or purity with the crucifix>>>>>>INHERENTLYyou associate the sign of the cross with protection and purity because Christians have used it for 2,000 years as a symbol, the actual cross/crucifix itself is a fucking Roman Empire execution method. Nothing INHERENT to the Cross is related to protection or purity, if Jesus was Guillotined christians would gesture a slice across their necks instead.You're literally so soaked in 2,000 years of associated symbolism you can't understand that 10,000 years of associating the Aquila with the Emperor's protection would do the exact same thing lol. It's literally the exact same thing. The symbol gains an association with protection or purity because of WHO it's associated with, not WHAT it actually is. The romans were not thinking about "protection and purity" when nailing criminals to crosses to execute them.
>>96631182>on pixivIf it's on there it's not real
>>96631182>think of the heckin pixelsgo back
>>96631205>Christian do the cross sign, clearly a protection/purity thing.>>96631303The cross sign is only """"Clearly"""" a protection/purity thing given millenia of symbolic association with Jesus, the Romans were executing people with crucifixion prior to Christianity and it had nothing to do with protection or purity and nobody would associate it with such because that's like saying depicting someone being tied to horses and drawn and quartered is "clearly" about protection and purity. The symbol is associated with a man and religious figure, and that man and religious figure is invoked for protection and purity, the symbol itself is arbitrary.The Aquila is exactly the same. It's not like bowing or kneeling at all, which even removed from all symbolic associations, is still a concrete physical act of submission or supplication that even animals can understand is the opposite of a threat display. Making yourself look bigger or smaller in front of someone else is not the same as drawing a cross or bird.
>>96631182Oh nyo he liked drawn loli images on pixiv, those poor victimized pixels
>>96631309I'm speechless with how far up your own ass you are.Who the fuck even said the cross has inherent meaning?You're obsessed with shit you made up in your own head. You're having an argument around words that weren't even said.Christians do the cross sign as protection, the way they do that sign speaks to its signification.Who the fuck cares about the inherent meaning of a geometrical shapes when we're talking about human signs?
>>96631355Bud the entire thread's calling you a retard because the concept of the aquila handsign is apparently lost to you, just take the loss and fuck off
>>96631258>there's absolutely nothing inherently associated with protection or purity with the crucifixYou're correct but the gulf between doctrine regarding the crucifix and the folk religion of the masses is staggering.
>>96631345>The cross sign is only """"Clearly"""" a protection/purity thing given millenia of symbolic association with JesusNo shit sherlock.I swear people on these threads are making arguments up.I asked about the imperial bird sign and I've got multiple people telling me about the romans. Yeah dipshits, who the fuck did you think killed jesus?
>>96630658As a truly talentless Eldar player, I thank you for your effort. Love your paint job and scheme, also.
>>96631205dumb newfag
>>96631182Gtfo puritancuck
>>96631295Eldar Corsairs - Prince Yriel, some generic Corsair HQ, another unit etcHuron BlackheartKaptin Badrukk and Ork FreebootersThat Kroot rumor engine model. Might be a unique characterGuilliman
>>96631376>That Kroot rumor engine model. Might be a unique characternot for another 2 years
>>96631357>the thread isFull stop.Some retards are getting agitated because they misunderstood a post and made ZERO effort to understand it. NO QUESTION for CLARIFICATION WERE EVEN ASKED.This is why these threads always go to shit at some point, because there are socially inept manchild retards incapable of self-reflection in it eager to try and call others stupid so they can pretend they aren't the bottom of the barrel.
>>96631376I want new raptors manNot for new models that are covered in trim but so I can make a unit with their updated wargear because I doubt their going to stay as 2 specials per5
>>96631380>n-no it's only a handful>I-I'm super duper smart they're all manchildren!!!the absolute cope of the seething retard
>>96631368>another jumps on the bandwagon and misses the point
>>96631267>putting your hands over your chest cannot mean oaths or protection outside of some random arbitration You're only getting more and more retarded
>>96631390>You're missing the point!!!No, you got BTFO'd and keep skiing moguls trying to keep from admitting you've been owned
>>96631384>playing chess with a pigeonLast (you)
What I'm getting from this argument is that they do a sign of the cross but for the aquilla? Is it like a hand sign or do they do a series of gestures? Idk Imm not following this reply chain to the source
>>96631382new raptors in 8 months with that killteam>inb4 but they're NL onlynope, they just got painted as NL, they have no NL imagery sculpted
>>96631355>Who the fuck even said the cross has inherent meaning?you lol>>96631205>>that bird sign>I genuinely despise this shit, dumbest fucking religious sign I've ever seen, makes no fucking sense.>Taking a look at some of the most famous signs of history (not just religious), they have a clear purpose/signification that matches the doctrine they fall from:>Christian do the cross sign, clearly a protection/purity thing.the imperial aquila is literally identical to christians doing the sign of the cross; the meaning comes from symbolic association with the divine figure the symbol is associated with.
>>96631398>let's look at other signs, see how they are not just arbitrary but carry purpose? I don't see that in the aquila sign>durr it means imperium duuurrrr>That's not the point>cope seethe btfo cry about itI pity you people.
>>96631403Have to wait and see if they're an upgrade sprue like the other NL Team
>>96630805There's a couple I want to. I did it with this marine so far.
>>96631417>you lolQuote it thenNot reading the rest
>>96631418>see how they are not just arbitrary but carry purpose?he told you the purpose right here >>96631368just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't have symbolism behind it
>>96631434He DID quote it in that same fucking post you shortbusser
>>96631402I dunno, I stop paying attention when an argument reaches the point where both of them are just going back and forth calling each other illiterate without mentioning what they're arguing about
>>96631424It's not, the photos show they're completely new sculpts compared to the current raptors
>>96631428Looks great blanon
>>96631435Purpose in the sign itself you dipshit. I explained with salutes and japanese bowing/prostrating.You know what, last (you), I don't know why I try to talk with retards.
>>96631402They just make a flappy bird hand sign
>>96631453do you even know the purpose of the modern hand to forehead salute lmao
>>96631441No, he THINKS he quoted it because he can't read, that is not my problem lmao. What a bunch of jackasses.
sigmarites have the better hand sign anyway
Would two Tau Combat Patrols be a good way to start a core for the army?
>>96631453they put their hands in the shape of the aquilato reaffirm their oath to the imperiumit's no different than somebody putting their hand to their heart during their anthem or when burgers do it during the pledge of allegiance>>96631467now try typing that without crying next time
>>96631379>not for another 2 yearswhy
>>96631478YesBut don't buy two combat patrols if you're just starting, buy a box of firewarriors to see if you like the hobby at all first
>>96631486rumor engines take forever to get revealed fully
>>96631470Pretty cool actually
>>96631470
>>96631470kawaii
>>96631490Not a taufag but I feel like firewarriors might be the perfect beginner kit. Lots of bits, some big panels, some small panels. Opportunity for metallics, fabrics, skin and solid colours. Unit of ten give them enough models to understand the assembly line process too.
>>96631453>Purpose in the sign itself you dipshit. I explained with salutes and japanese bowing/prostrating.and you got btfo because there's no "purpose" in the sign itself when doing the sign of the cross. an uncontacted sentinelese tribe could still get the gist of what kowtowing or kneeling means as a sign of deference and submission. They would have no fucking idea or any possible way of knowing that signing the cross on your chest is a reference to a 2,000 year old empire's execution method of nailing people to wooden crosses as they painfully die from blood loss and gravity's pull, which happened to be the way that a religious leader was executed as, with that religious leader himself being the prophesized messiah of a separate religious group living under the empire. The Aquila is no different. If you don't know about the God-Emperor of Mankind, it's just a two-headed bird. If you don't know what Jesus, Rome, and the Old Testament are the Cross is just two lines; even seeing a real crucifix it's just a piece of wood with a horizontal bar; you're more likely to assume it's something to do with construction than a religious icon
>>96631478tau are getting a Christmas battleforce with farsight and some other suits, so maybe get just one patrol?
>>96630429What are even the rules for getting units like the snipers in that tower? Is it just impossible to assault them? Take multiple turns to climb?
>>96631494Not Always. Sometimes they're only a few months out but sometimes they're for years and years down the road. Stuff gets masters and early sculpts made that they end up waiting an entire edition to actually release all the time.
>>96631470>Puraissu Sigmaru-kun ;3
What do /yourguys/ believe? Are they followers of some weirdo sect of emperor bothering, servants to a daemon? Fedora tippers?Please give me some in depth descriptions.
>>96631513Is that shin onii san
>>96631470But that's all wrong.
>>96631530I don't have guys yet (sad I know) but when I do I'm planning on them being a Hunter cadre with an unusually large number of gue'vesa integrated from captured hive worlds, and specializing in CQC and urban environments.
>>96631490Oh not to worry there, I have an army already, I was just looking at Tau as a second army.
>>96631572>TWO SCOOPS, FOR SIGMAR
>>96631580then yeah the new patrol box is a really good starter, build those FW as breachers
>>96630960new space kind episode has just dropped today on youtube.. Its just as good as the past two other episodes
>>96630258Hey guys, hope you're all doing well. It's time for the september collage anchor posts. I'll try to post one each thread until the deadline. As always I'll check the archive too but submitting your models in reply to these posts is the best way to not be missed. If you submit the models to one of my anchor posts there is no need to repost the submissions, I see them, I promise.Here is the vote for next month's theme.https://strawpoll.com/BDyNzobWkyRVery freeform theme this month, excited to see what you've cooked up.
>>96631470they actually use more than one
>>96631530They follow what is told to them by those who came before them, everything descends from the top guy, he's the one who set all the rules down.The galaxy is a treacherous place, no one can be trusted. They hope/pray that what they're taught and told is the right path. The top guy refuses to say anything that falls outside. Only he knows where they come from, why they are the way they are, or why they do it all.No I'm not telling either, that defeats the point.
>>96631606Based collageking
>>96631572That's still the twin tailed comet symbol with the two fingers, just more relaxed.
>>96631572No, that's still the same sign. A clenched fist, two fingers out. The palm will typically face outwards. The reverse, when the palm faces inwards, is typically used as a taunt.
>>96631518Minor third party jump-in. A crucifix has to have the image of Christ on it otherwise it's just a cross.
>>96631666Minor fourth party jump in. A crucifix with Christ on it represents Christ’s perfect sacrifice for our sins while a crucifix without Christ on it represents Christ’s defeat of death.
>>96631606I tried going back through the archive through prior threads and couldn't find me posting the final image of my mini, so I'll put it here again. Sorry if you already nabbed it!
>>96631694fifth party jump inonly a couple sects put this much importance on icons
>>96631700nta but which sects?
Do you remove mould lines after assembling the model or per piece off the sprue?
>>96631730depends on the piece
>>96631730Always the piece in case it's hard to scrape when assembled
>>96631734this
>>96631730Usually the latter.
>>96631727buttsects
>>96631730if you clean them per piece you just have to rotate them and will get all mould lines easilyif you remove them after assembly you WILL miss some random line somewhere, since they are now everywhere, spread randomly
why are the EC so much taller than other chaos marines? this is probably how tall they should have been
>>96631694No it isn't. Crucifix has a literal specific meaning, that meaning being a cross that has the image of christ on it. From the latin words for "dude on cross". Both can be religious symbols but the word crucifix only ever means one with the image of christ on it.
>>96631761>since they are now everywhere, spread randomly>nowthey've always been horrible, they're so much better now than in the 2000s
>>96631730Piece by piece. It's too easy to miss one in a weird spot that's potentially easy to damage other areas when you go to clean it up post assembly.
>>96631755kek
>>96631770Because GW is still scale creeping to set up you rebuying your entire CSM army again 10 years from now in order to "deal with your models being scale crept"
>>96631774He's talking about how they're all over post assembly not how they're better or worse relative to older models
>>96631789Chubby nid tummy sexoooo
>>96631770>photo comparisonYou should know better than to trust these>>96631774nta but I think you misunderstood what anon meant spectacularly
>>96631770Aren't all the new ec wearing platform heels or is that just the characters
>>96631801mini compare is consistent
>>96631801
For Combat Patrol, do I need to use the loadouts listed or can I build my models how I like? I'm not sure how restrictive everything is supposed to be.I assume nobody will care in friendly circles but would it be welcome in an Escalation League?Specifically I want Agents and I want the Arbites with shields.
>>96631819Pretty sure you have to play them with the wargear specifically listed. That said, I don't think anyone playing Combat Patrol as a format will actually give a shit how you assemble the models visually.
>>96631810>>96631817I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm saying they're untrustworthy.Both of these have lies in the past and been pedaled here.
>>96631819Combat Patrol as an official format uses set lists with set wargear with their own slightly modified data sheets and army rules, but if you're playing in an escalation league where everyone is just bringing 500 points of whatever then wargear is obviously whatever you want to bring.
>>96630805Sometimes. I try not to. My backlog is so big already.Here is my captain before repainting
>>96631789SEXOOOOOOOOOOO
>>96630805>>96631849And here is after repainting
how do I tell one guy at the LGS to start wearing belts so I don't have to get mooned by him each time he bends over.It's not even a case of don't look at him you'll look in one direction because you are talking to someone else and he'll be in the background ass out
>>96631872watching EU DCs fail this dude's encounter over and over is never not funny
>>96631856Weird kneepads
>>96631872Just tell him. Don't make a scene about it, just take aside and tell him how it is.
>>96631891They're vents
>>96631872I had a coworker who had this issue, told him the moon was huge today. He didn't get it, told him we could see his ass, never had the issue again.
>>96631872Seconding the other posters, just be an adult and tell him
>Two weeks agoDeldar Wracks came in box of 5 for 45 dollarydoos>TodayDeldar Wracks come in box of ten for 105 dollarydoos Thank god I already have ten which is about all I'll ever want but seriously geedubs suck a bag of dick
The only reason to have tall bases was to fit the slot required to keep metal models up.Now that nothing uses slots there's no reason to keep bases tall.Warhammer should move to a flat bases system.
>>96631979Serious talk: how much more expensive can it even get?
>>96631986Serious talk: you're an idiot.
>>96632002
>>96631985It frames the minis nicely though
>>96631979>105aren't they 60 though?
>>96631933KWAB
>>96632034ntab dollarydoos = aus $, not burger $
To those of you anons that play flimsier armies, especially those that aren't quite hordes, what units do you choose to be your early-game sacrifices in order to improve the survival of others? What reason do you choose them?
>>96632058Since you posted DEldar art I assume you are asking about themFor me, I don't sacrifice. I play cagey and if I'm forced to lose anything it's a boat next to cover so they can hop into itObviously this requires terrain which I've seen a staggering amount of people not actually use and just create a shooting gallery in which case you're fucked as a flimsy army
This is probably a dumb question but how do I find games? I got in to kill team last year but I've only played that with a friend at his house I decided to go ahead and start building a full army though and want to play a real game at some point once I'm done with it, there is a games workshop store somewhat nearby but they don't seem to post anything on their facebook which is the only social media they seem to have, do I just show up at random and hope people are there or do stores usually post a schedule?
>>96632058Don't sacrifice, use transports and reserves to keep them alive until your babe ruth turn
>>966320901) friends2) warhammer store / lgs, ask people, schedule a gamestart small, only go up after a few games
>>96632090Call the store and ask if they have a day/time people play at. Head over and introduce yourself>But I have anxiety!Too bad, if you want to play you have to meet people
>>96632090What do you play?
>>96631986Serious serious talk, but the gradual price hikes have been an ongoing thing for ages. Here are some 2005 MSRP Prices for comparison>Cadian Shock Troops - $35 for 20 models>Sly Marbo - $12>Chimera - $35>Leman Russ Battle Tank - $40Now it's>Cadian Shock Troops - $52 for 10 models>Sly Marbo - $32.75>Chimera - $65>Leman Russ Battle Tank - $70Games Workshop will continue to make models bigger and more expensive for as long as people continue to buy them.
>>96632141Man this inflation sure is rough haha
>>96632141Tbf, look at the price of eggs. Everything is expensive
>>96630526Yes I do but I already subscribe to him on twitch, he doesn't pay me to advertise for him.
>>96632155Just out of curiosity, what secret knowledge does he have behind a paywall that you can't get for free somehwere else?
>>96630526Pax acrylica my beloved
>>96630526mishmash is fun enjoy a creator who's clearly still learning
>>96632161Based
>>96631730Piece by piece. I've thought about doing while on the sprue so I can just rotate the thing and know exactly what plane all the lines are on.
>>96630526>>96632161Postan more of his stuff cause it's pretty nutty
Working on anything this weekend?I built some sisters today and am using a textured rolling pin for basing bits because the moulds for my regular basing stuff have gone missing.
>>96632154Almost like economic uncertainty is bad for keeping prices down.
>>96632171>>96632169
>>96632141i've also noticed that it's become increasingly common for models with good datasheets to be significantly more expensive despite costing the same amount of time and material to produce.flawless blades are £37 for 3 infantry models, for example.
>>96632171
>>96632171NMM looks shit from angles other than 1 good angle
>>96632172Do you wait for the molds to dry or cut them to base shape first?Also how's the vamp lord, Im thinking of buying one too.
>>96632182the only place for NMM is competition pieces desu
>>96632058>>96632087NTA but I've long thought DE should have more ready access to -1 to hit and wound blanking. They are a whole lotta glass without too much cannon compared to the balance struck by other armies (pre-nerf 9e DE excepted). I wonder how much that will change once the new codex sees more play.
>>96632171>>96630526
>>96632172Blocked in some basecoats on the first chicken. I like these colors more than the official scheme
>>96632178He dat gudd, he dat gudd
>>96632182wrong again retard-kun
>>96632182I don't think he plays he's just a display painter as far as I know. Nmm works fine for him cause it's just for pictures and chilling in a display case
>>96632182>>96632189>why does a technique used for display painting looks good on display pieces???truly a mystery
>>96632160Nothing, he gave me some really good advice this month and I figured he deserved it.
>>96632180Always though this would make such a sick alternative styling for nundams
>>96632198It does look better in matching colors
>>96632198I like that you can see they've got the little votann robot heads under the bird heads to show they're abominable intelligence and not a daemon engine
>>96632217Thats the best part about them imo
>>96632185I let them dry and then snap them into pieces to add to the bases. The moulds before were made from the base of the triumph of saint catherine.They wont be the same but should hopefully be close enough. I also need to substitute the astrogranite debris that no longer exists.Vamp lord was actually really easy to build and looks great, my wife picked it up earlier to paint tomorrow.
>>96632204that's what i said idiot
>>96632217>>96632227I wonder if someone tried to un-TS them, could be cool looking robots
>>96632217they're supposed to be magi-techbasically fueled off a sorcerer's magic they should really have one sticking around them
>>96632257The hood is optional I believe, as for removing all that iconography and trim?Jesus
>>96632257you could probably do some cool kitbashes the bots really do open a whole lot of new possibilities for proxying interesting stuff
>>96632260>>96632198the HH tsons robot is incredible in comparison to these, what the fuckYou are doing well with the chickenbot though
looking forward to doing these capesalso post wips
>>96632268to remind you that tzaangors are a major part of the identity of 1ksons and you need to stop trying to build away from them
>>96632268Thats resin though, right?
>>96632267I hope they add votanns to dawn of war 4 and we see the bots in actions
>>96632281NTA but I'm buying max amount of sekhetars from GW stores to send the message that Tson robots sell. Hopefully they get the message and give us more.
>>96632282Yes, but modern forge world resin is not finecast era resin.Still doesn't stop the design being better either way
>>96632282Yeah, but super easy to assemble
>>96632268>>96632281ehh I don't like these at all but that's just me
>>96632292>>96632294Yeah I still don't wanna deal with it. You have to wash forgeworld resin too which is annoying. I do agree the sculpt is good.
>>96632297Understandable, have a nice day. I love the robots personally.I remember the 108 shots these beepboops could fire in 8th, it was absurd.>>96632318Also understandable. It's much much easier if you have an ultrasonic cleaner but that's another investment.
>>96632297the 2nd one is actually an admech unit which you could probably try to use for proxy and not a resin kiti hope someone more creative than me can find a way to kitbash some of these bots to fit more with the aesthetic of 1ksons
>>96632290godspeed one day 1ksons will get their range 2nd wave and get as much stuff as DG
>>96632343None of the LI stuff worksI spent a LOT of time looking and it's way too small or doesn't fit on a 40mm, looking at you Dark AdMech and your stupid 60mms.
>>96632356>one day 1ksons will get their range 2nd wave and get as much stuff as DGSure would be nice, too bad it ain't happening
>>96632292modern forgeworld is still warped brittle dogshit
>>96632376Brittle? NoWarped? Yes
>>96632372People said the same thing about plastic sisters of battle and plastic kroot
>>96632382It IS brittledrop that shit and every delicate detail is breakingand even if it was only just warped, why would you pay nearly 2X the price for an inferiorly casted product
Help a new guy out. Do these abilities stack?War WalkerCrystalline Targeting: In your Shooting phase, after this unit has shot, select one enemy unit hit by one or more of those attacks. Until the end of the phase, each time a friendly AELDARI unit makes an attack that targets that enemy unit, improve the Armour Penetration characteristic of that attack by 1. Each unit can only be selected for this ability once per turn.Vibro Cannon PlatformSonic Destruction: In your Shooting phase, each time this model makes an attack with its vibro cannon that targets an enemy unit, improve the Strength, Armour Penetration and Damage characteristics of that attack by 1 for each other friendly VIBRO CANNON PLATFORM model that made one or more attacks with its vibro cannon that also targeted that enemy unit this phase.Also i totally called that they will be getting rid of dark eldar as a faction and just combining it into one Aeldari rule book. They have already started to include dark eldar units in the Aeldari Codex. This latest Dark Eldar codex will be their last one. They already did it with harlequins.
>>96632372I don't actually know what this image conveysBut I'd like to think it's a sarcastic "sure thing"
>>96632229>They wont be the same but should hopefully be close enough. I also need to substitute the astrogranite debris that no longer exists.Wait what? Astrogranite isnt a paint anymore? But I use that one all the time for my cave bases.
>>96632376We have very different experiences then, it happens.My purchases from FW over the last couple years have been near perfect, the only issue being one miscast foot for a Vorax for which they sent me a brand new box.I'm UK based though, i dont know what experiences are like elsewhere
>>96632087>>96632113Guilty as charged for being a Dark Eldar player (not that I was hiding it, granted). I bring it up because I was playing against a friend's Kult of Speed Orks and it was a bit tricky playing against an army almost as fast as me (though, granted, which much worse aim) while also losing the initiative, so I had to spend my first turn doing my best to position without exposing too much. I could only do so much initially with the cover provided, so I had to sacrifice a unit of Reavers to direct fire against my more important (read: Dark Lance-bearing) units.>>96632193Well, one thing that's helping (me against said friend) at least is the Kabalite Cartel detachment, which can give a detachment Devastating Wounds towards vehicles, so splinter weapons can do something against vehicle-heavy armies.
>>96632395I'd actually be okay with this because I then have an excuse to buy wraiths
>>96632401Astrogranite debris is gone, regular astrogranite is still produced.They got rid of the thicker basing stuff but i was going to move away from gw ones anyway
>>96632407It's not just me, any video I watch of people assembling FW they have to spend ages sanding and heating the resin in hot water to reshape bits and keep them heavily clamped so they don't curl away when gluing/epoxying together
>>96632366well damn
>>96632418That's resin baby, all large resin kits are like that.
>>96632274haha, what’s the filename for?
>>96632439Why would people deal with that? Im surprised there wasnt greater economic pressure to come out with a better product.
>>96632439not my 3d prints or the recasts I buyforgeworld is just trash
>>96632445GWs plastic molds are expensive to createYou can make a resin mold out of scrap rubber
>>96632445There was! Itvs called plastic but it's only good for large scale production.If I'm going to be honest, FW has its problems but it is more an issue of quality control than the casting process since that's just what casting is like. You only know of forge worlds issues because that's what you have been exposed to. I have an old Mortian Crawler cast laid out right now and it's the worst thing I have ever worked on holy fuck. I can see why they only do 3d prints and stls now.
>>966324613d prints are a very different kind of resin and you know that, please don't be disingenuous.I will agree some recasts are better than fws older stuff but again I'm talking about modern stuff, within the last couple years.
Trying to decide what imperial army I want to collect and have narrowed it to either Black Templars or Custodes, I like both aesthetically. Do BT have more diverse playstyles vs custodes?
>>96632485I got that spacewolf praetor to use as a captain and not only was it broken on arrival, it had layer lines from the printed master all over it and warped pieces still, and that was a sculpt from what, 2023?
my LGS was out of Wraithbone spray :(
>>96632506ohh no
>>96632506F
>>96632497Did you get a replacement for it breaking in transit?
>never really wanted to start deldar>Always thought their lore and models were neat but thats about it.>missed out on the previous combat patrols despite having many chances to get multiples>boot up my regular warhammer website>New battleforce in stock, on sale, for only 150 bucks>The devil starts whispering in my earsGuys I have like 12 armies worth of plastic I cant fall for this fomo help me. Im an innocent abandoned on a planet of chaos and I got demons whispering in my ears.
>>96632532I didn't bother, just printed the bits that were broken and replaced them since I knew there was an 80/20 of the replacement being just as bad
>>96632552>I have like 12 army worth of plastic>still wants to buy morefucking consoomers lmao, I'm sure GW is happy to have customers like you
>>96632141I got into 40k with Assault on Black Reach. That was $60 in 2008 and came with >10 tactical marines>a captain>5 termies>a boxnought>an ork warboss>5 nobs>20 boys>3 deff dreads (which were new and this was their introduction iirc)it also came with a rulebook and templates. now in 2025 sixty bucks doesn't even get you five terminators. it's ridiculous. I'd have never even considered the hobby if it was this much of a fucking ripoff back then. And it's not like the models in it are piece of shit finecast or old pewter stuff, this was 5th edition in 2008, a lot of plastic models from back then are STILL being sold completely unchanged in 2025 (including basically the entire Dark Eldar range),
>>96632566Thats why Im asking for help! Dont let me fall further into the pit anon!
>>96632570Good news, rumor is that Dark Eldar are getting a big refresh next edition. So a lot of those old models won't be sold anymore.
>>96632570oh sorry it's not deff dreads its deffcoptas, I always get ork vehicles mixed up. now 3 deffkoptas is $65 lol
>>96632552Just wait for the Dark Eldar refresh next edition like everyone else.The entire fucking army is sold out on all their stores right now so you'd have a hell of a time trying to collect them right now anyway.
>>96632570To be fair, that is a starter set, the current 40K Ultimate Starter set is 400+ USD worth of plastic for 210. The regular starter set for 112 USD seems more comparable to that image of Assault on Black Reach, though there does seem to be a price hike even when accounting for inflation.
>>96632616I wouldnt even touch or try collecting their range. I'd get the battleforce and work through it later down the line.
>>96632552Have you considered 2000pts of hellions and reavers
this thread has been pretty comfy
Imagine getting milked by ahrimans fat fucking honkers
I dont feel like playing 40k today
>>9663263530 hellions, 12 Reavers, and 40 Wyches is unironically going to be a competitive list.A Challenge Met fucks up melee armies so bad
>>96632651Based
>>96632665Could there be a worse army to transport
>>96632665I have 30 wyches how do I make that work? Succies+wyches don't seem very good
Lgs has this box. Is it any good with the new battleforce?
>>96632671They are very good in Spectacle of Spite. Lelith, Chronoshard, and Periapt succubus as leaders.
>>96632651Ahriman is flat and cute he just wears fake tits to confuse people
>>96632687Thanks
They’ve got some AoS stuff in the pipeline, but it’d be pretty funny if they skipped all of that for the Space Marine releases tomorrow.
>>96632506Oh wait no, it's fine, Amazon now has Citadel spray for MSRP! That owns, last time I checked it was always weirdly expensive on Amazon. I thought I was going to have to order it from GW, and then I'd want to spend more money to get the free shipping, but I'm working on Eldar now and for some reason there's almost nothing in the Eldar range that's online only, so there wasn't anything I could get cheaper.Thank god I was able to avoid that mess. Priming resumes on Tuesday!
Is a tarantula for 30 points with the twin linked lascannon good for keeping in my deployment zone? I want something to help my backline objective monkeys (usually scouts or the back half of tactical squads) deal with threats.
>>96632736necromunda and one token tow release.
>my mother asks me to order her a yogurt maker >because she doesn't trust amazon with her creditcard>costs like $100>instead of paying me back she buys me a combat patrol and gummybears..thanks?>no I don't even play nids
>>96632772Based. You should paint at least one and show her, she would probably like that
>>96632772>no I don't even play nidsWell now you do, make your mom proud
>>96632772That's kinda sweet.
>>96632772>My mom did something nice for me because she knows I like the hobby>ComplainShe fucking cares about you dude, cherish that
>>96632786>>96632794yeah I was thinking of freehanding the classic heart mom tattoo on the Mortrex's wing>>96632795she means well lmao, its appreciated but still I was expecting a more normal interaction
>>96632694Ahriman is like Magnus uncle, he isn't a femboy. He's older than the primarchs. He was an old man at the time of the Heresy.
>>96632772Jealous, I wish my parents would buy me tyranids without me asking.
>>96632772mum saw that you were collecting elves and decided to get you a real man's army
>>96632822I’d turn Ahriman into an aunt and a mother of 4
>>96632495>Do BT have more diverse playstyles vs custodes?yes. you can play any marine army with the BT scheme/aesthetics. custards are custards.
>>96632840>Real man's army>NidsBruhit's most women's army
>>96632885found the elf
god I love elves
>>96632850
Evening Gents how goes our Saturday night?
>>96630258I was convinced to play Warhammer eventually but need to pick out an army. My favorite tactic in games like chess is something between>my instinct is telling me I have a tactic hereAnd>maybe that's not a good idea, but it'd be pretty funny
>>96632890Eldars in same boat with nids, what's your point?
War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.
>>96632920Pretty alright, I’m happy with my painting. What are you painting?
>>96632921It’s better to go lore first when picking an army. Though maybe start with Orks going off your post.
>>96632921Orks or Tyranids because they have the easiest to understand motivations.
>>96632948This isn’t true because orks came before humans, and they were already performing war perfectly.
>>96632971If Orks are so great at war then why isn't the war focused extra dimensional psychic parasite trying to corrupt Orks?
>>96632993Because it's not possible
>>96632993Because Gork and Mork double teamed his bitch ass to let him know thathe’s stuck eating the galactic table scraps that are humies.
>>96632997lorelet
>>96633008Then why haven't the Orks conquered the galaxy if they are so great at war? They've only had 60+ million years to do it.
>>96632953Eradicators still...
Oh look, the decalslop guy is samefagging again.
>my LGS soldout of the DE box instantlybut I thought it was shit?
>>96633032Do you really think anyone here is actually capable of predicting sales?
>>96630258>TQIt is the only place where I can ask stupid 40k related questions.>For instance:How many of you 40k hobbyists are getting an artistic desire to branch out from modelpainting and try drawing?I can't be the only one that has felt a desire to start the drawing hobby after painting some models, right?How lively is the 40k fanart scene?
>>96633032In recent years, LGS have sometimes gotten extremely low stock (like single digits) of value boxes. Maybe that happened to yours? The box is decent but I wouldn't call it great the way GW ended up pricing it.
>>96633040idk about fanart but I've sketched for years just for fun before ever getting back into 40k as an adult with actual money
>>96633032stop talking about it anon i dont want to buy it fuuuuuuuck
>>96633016Because they're only good at fighting. Orks will inevitably start infighting, especially if the WAAAAGH gets too big for even the biggest warboss to impose his will on all of it at the same time. Some Big Bosses will get a little big for their britches and break off and the whole thing falls apart.Plus Orks are very easy to dismantle once you identify and eliminate the leader. It's SOP for the Imperium for a reason.
>>96633047Not gonna lie. I'm torn between juggling the miniature hobby and the drawing hobby. I want to sketch 40k stuff, but at the same time I've spent so much money on models and hobby supplies. Also /ic/ is comically bitter like everyone is at each other's throats and when they aren't they're deliberately being thorns in each other's sides. I think my biggest problem is that technically the miniature hobby has "cheats" like enamels washes whereas the drawing hobby doesn't. You have to grit your teeth and just draw to improve.This means that I've been conditioned from the miniature hobby to look for shortcuts.
>>96632997It’s possible, just VERY hard because orks are usually content with the way their lives are going anyway, and they don’t need any overbearing god telling them to do this or that, or trying to give them some kind of boon when the ork is already doing just fine.
>>96633016Because orks purely focus on war while the humies try to keep some governance and peace to the lands they conquer like the little war hating weaklings they are.
>>96633080I think your issue is stemming from the merging of hobbies. When I draw I go out to nature and sketch critters in tide pools or local plants. If I wanted to immerse myself in 40k I have my models.
>>96633028Grim, eradicators look like shit. Have you painted any of the new space wolf models?>>96633030nah, I’m trying to be somewhat positive :)
>>96633107gj decal, keep that attitude up
>>96633098>I think your issue is stemming from the merging of hobbies.I guess I just have to pick one and stick with it? That's part of what's stressing me out to be honest. I love the miniature painting hobby, but I want to keep at the drawing hobby because I think I have an original imagination like everyone else that does. Also the drawing hobby has a higher chance of getting me a fun job of making comics. Whereas the miniature hobby seems a lot harder to monetize the hobby itself. You've got a higher chance of being a good comic artist and having fun being it from the drawing hobby than painting enough 40k models to end up being able to turn it into a career like Duncan Rhodes did.
>>96633107>eradicators look like shit.not to agree with the mutant but you're wrong
>>96633123that is a pretty grim way to think of things. first the idea of "picking one" is completely counter to what I was saying; its okay to have multiple hobbies anon. second.. why the fuck does everything have to become a career? why can you not just enjoy something for the sake of it without some get rich scheme attached? this feels like some low-trust society shit
An anon suggested that I give an oil wash a try on my collage entry, and I've been meaning to give it a try so I said fuck it why not. Here's the before
>>96633156And here's the after. Be honest, does it look better or worse?
>>96633162Looks nice, adds a good level of dirt n grime
>>96633162Definite improvement.
>>96633155>that is a pretty grim way to think of things.Never realized that until now. >its okay to have multiple hobbies anonYou're right. I didn't expect to be getting the feels on /40kg/ of all places especially from this.>second.. why the fuck does everything have to become a career?I just want to try and avoid having a shitty career. I want a fulfilling and enjoyable one. But I do see where you're coming from.
Dkok Siege regiment 20 man unit with 2 plasmas and 2 meltas or 2 grenade launchers? The launchers get an extra shot from furious fusillade if shooting at half range. So, 1 shot D6 damage or 2 shots 2D3 damage?
>>96633193Sorry I was probably a bit harsh. In my day job I'm a carpenter, and I enjoy it, its good work. That doesn't mean I want to come home and build cabinets for fun.
>>96633193>I want a fulfilling and enjoyable oneArt is not one of those to my knowledge
>>96633210I see your point. Thank you.>>96633214Well I hope it is somehow fulfilling and enjoyable for my sister. She is going all in. And quite frankly I'm jealous.
>>96633030>>96633111You're disgusting
>>96633275I play death guard, so that’s a compliment.
>>96633275You might be genuinely mentally impairedYou've had people telling you for like 5 months straight to ignore shitposts yet you can't help but spam responses then scream CAN I NOT DEFEND MYSELF???
>>96633107Yes I have painted a few of them
>>96633288I see a lot decal real estate on that right terminator’s left shoulder. you’re getting sloppy.
>>96633299I have not build/painted anything in a month. Its a serious drought..still gotta build my Erads
>>96633305You better make for it. I want to see at least four decals on each eradicator, or you’re going to be in big trouble!
