Previous Thread: >>96639434"My secret tech is Walking Ballista" edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhen was the last time you actually told someone to leave the table because they weren't matching everyone else's power?
>>96641333>TQNever done that, though I had me and two other people tell some autist that he was bringing a notoriously high-power deck to our table when we just wanted to shoot the shit. He reluctantly went somewhere else without saying much.
>>96641305>Rome is not being sacked, anon. This is a card gameNot the point of the analogy>has a few sets you don't likeI have no problems with sets I don't like. I didn't like Neon Dynasty either and that was the most popular set of its year.UB is something completely different and you know how disingenuous you are being.>>96641309>So the issue here is that you're yelling at random people about UB when you could be yelling at random people about WOTC's laziness,No.UB is bad. It is inherently bad for the game. The way in which it is inherently bad is nuanced and relates to more subtle changes that most people will not accept as having being part of a wider trend until it is already over.That is nothing like the words you are trying to put in my mouth
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So can we discuss edh this thread? Post decks. Discuss decks. What commander are you working on? What one do you intend to tweak next?
>>96641465I'm working on THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. I am considering CONSOOMING and paying 70 dollars for the promo one.
>>96641333WOTC prices these lairs too high. I'd get these to maybe use and irritate others but not for 60 fucking dollars.
>>96641465Currently putting together a list for this lady(?)I'm having trouble deciding on a secondary package, currently tied between cost reduction to fuel the larger spells the deck wants to reliably fulfil the 6-different-costs requirement, and an untap package to combo with hermetic study/viridian longbow effects and to have Arcanis as a sorta hidden commander
>>96641465>So can we discuss our favorite marvel superhero intellectual properties through the lens of a card game that doesn't matter anymore this thread? yeah probably that will happen
>>96641498Please just turn off the autism for ONE thread, anon.
>>96641465Transforming my Kamiz to a Jin Sakai list.Waiting for my cards for Rendmaw to play him this Friday.Brewing pic related
>>96641492I personally say the untap package so you can draw a ton and potentially kill multiple people in a turn>>96641519What are you planning for Amarant? Just auras? Equipment? Buff spells for sudden murder?
UB soon
Is Hinata any good as a commander?
>>96641534I don't really see the use of Auras besides pic related. I will take the rest of my disassembled Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes deck and build it around him.
>>96641571neat
>UB sets crowd out actual Magic sets>WotC purposefully fills UB sets with collectable/chase cards so whales and scalpers will buy it out>UB sells better than Magic sets>UB eventually replaces Magic and becomes the normTake me back, please. I won't complain about Duskmourne or Aetherdrift. I'll take hats over Spider-Man and Spock and Sonic.
>>96641483This is becoming a "luxury hobby" like Warhammer
>>96641586>anon finally commits suicide and leaves the real magic fans alone
>>96641586>>WotC purposefully fills UB sets with collectable/chase cards so whales and scalpers will buy it out>>UB sells better than Magic setsThis was always the plan. Making cards of existing characters with existing stories is easier than having to come up with something yourselfHave you ever noticed how WotC has claimed that they won't use AI to make art for cards but they've never said that about card text. If they aren't just already doing it, I guarantee WotC are toying with AI generating ideas for cards.One day the anti-AI fags will not be able to distinguish AI art and WotC will just print entirely AI generated cards every month of the year and the UBfags will still not accept that their greed ruined the game>mmmmm slurrrp munch, a least da AI cards have good effects!!!!!
>>96641612if the Ai makes a good, useable, and balanced card and the art isn't some travesty of dogshit with the litany of errors AI art currently has, what exactly is the problem?
Your response?
>>96641620>if the bad thing actually does good things and not bad it wont be bad, no?
>>96641628you didnt answer my question.
>>96641627I tap the sign
>>96641534>I personally say the untap package so you can draw a ton and potentially kill multiple people in a turnI'm leaning that way as wellIn monoblue it /seems/ like the best ways of paying it are just untapping mana rocks to cast bigger draw spells, plus ArcanisAny other tapstuff I'm missing?
>>96641612They probably used AI for the Spidey set given how dogshit the flavor is for most of them.
>>96641630Correct, I made fun of it.There's actually a name for the type of question you asked, it's a "contrafactual hypothetical"There you go anon, you learned something today. It's yours to keep.
>>96641641>contrafactual hypotheticalcounterfactual*
>>96641631?
>>96641641>GUYS WHAT IF (thing that didn't happen)!!?>ok well what if (thing based on your premise)?>ERM CONTRAFACTUAL HYPOTHETICAL I DONT HAVE TO ANSWERAnswer. The Question. Sperg.
>>96641647this card sucks ass but it's too funny not to use
>>96641644Gotcha to google it ;)>>96641648This man did not google it :(
>>96641465I've got like 300 cards in my Juri deck and now it's just a matter of narrowing down what I want to do.I can't really figure out whether I wanna focus more on the group slug or aristocrats aspect, and there's a lot of treasure stuff too. Right now there are several Fling-styled effects and cheap explodable critters, and the normal blood artist style staples and chaff-makers, and several damage amps like fiery emancipation, and some recursion, and a couple of crime payoffs since I'm ideally doing those constantly, and there's some malicious shit like Screaming Nemesis and Kefka that I'm not sure about including yetIt's a mess right now but the end goal is to have something that's spicy and destructive but not tedious or annoying to play against, because that's the spirit of Rakdos
>>96641649There are others like it that will actually hit all attacking creatures.I'm also looking for a place to put Domineering Will because it's a bit flexible. Target player takes control of 3 *nonattacking* creatures and they block if able. So you can run the attacker into their own blockers, take the biggest things on everyone else's boards, or just not have to chumpblock with anything you own
>>96641656>I've got like 300 cards in my Juri deck and now1. That is complete insanity anon. That's not how you should be building a deck at all2. Juri is better in the 99. He's boring as a commander. Most rakdos sac decks basically want all the rakdos all-stars anyway. Juri and Judith appear in the 99 so fucking much.Mayhaps you could be temped by Korvold?
It's been like 10 years since 4C commander precons came out. I don't get why, seems like there are some themes that are present in 4 colors, sans-U sacrifice, sans-B pump spells, sans-G control, etc.
>>96641661>1For me it's WAY easier to throw in everything I might want all in one go and then categorize it to cull them down.>2Judith is in the 99 (the original, the MKM one is more spellslinger-y), but there are a couple of reasons I picked Juri. Aside from appealing to my hipster tendencies, I love both of his arts and his general aesthetic, and I prefer decks where the commander is a component of the gameplan instead of the base of the whole deck. He and Judith are close enough in theme that I could swap which one's in the command zone based on mood.Korvold is nice but also gives me a similar vibe to something like Muldrotha or Nekusar where it almost feels like it's building your deck for you. Maybe I just have an aversion to tricolor.
>>96641742>For me it's WAY easier to throw in everything I might want all in one go and then categorize it to cull them down.Cutting down from 300 is madness, you should always have 100 in mind. You might want to use a deckbuilding site that tracks your card count so you can see when you're getting close. 10-15 excess cards is fine, but cutting TWO-HUNDRED cards? It's so excessive>Judith is in the 99Of course she is. Along with>Mayhem Devil>Stormclaw Rager>Garna Bloodfist of KeldAm I right?>I love both of his arts and his general aesthetic,This I can approve of>I prefer decks where the commander is a component of the gameplan instead of the base of the whole deck.This is dependent. While I think decks that don't fall apart when the commander is removed permanently (looking at you, Out of Time) is a good idea. But Juri is so generic they really could have put his effect on an uncommon.The thing about having a commander is it's like always having an extra card in hand. That's a really powerful situation to be in and I don't think Juri is worth that position>Korvold is nice but also gives me a similar vibe to something like Muldrotha or Nekusar where it almost feels like it's building your deck for you.To an extent, but I'm pretty sure I just named 3 more cards in your 99. I could take a gamble on shit like Blood Artist and Zulaport Cutthroat too, and you'd be a fool not to have Umbral Collar Zealot nowadays since it's an instant staple. What you're trying to build is already a solved game plan I'm afraid
>>96641797>But Juri is so generic they really could have put his effect on an uncommon.Fuck me, I didn't even remember that they DIDPut a rare in the command zone, folks
>>96641465Built Electro with a bunch of ramp to just sit on the battlefield and if anyone got too out of hand i'd just one-shot them. It was fun but friends complained it was hard to interact with.Not used to mono red but probably gonna add more card draw as I was constantly in topdeck mode after shitting out all mana rocks.
>>96641838>friends complained it was hard to interact with
>>96641465I want to make frankyboy but I think infect is ultra cringe, just want to focus on +1/+1 counters and some useful planeswalkers, sagas and other counter based permanents and pay offs. Also I want to look my opponents in the eye and call them a mutie when I kill them with Frank.Based, or cringe?
>>96641994few things are this based
>over 7 fucking non-land tutors>can cheat out several locks before turn 6>my decks is a 3 because it folds to otawara!>btw I phase out byeee BYEEE ^.^when will people start to see these faggots are just gaming the system. this is NOT an upgraded precon tier deck https://moxfield.com/decks/r3HJ5YV3S0yYB9h4kFSfEA
>>96642024buy an ad
>>96642028how does that elk boot taste like?
>>96642024I dunno anon, that looks like a bracket 3 deck to mealso buy an ad nigger
>>96642037>no please really give me attentionbuy. an. ad.
>>96641465Thinking about building Yarus for real this time. Really want a funny aggro deck with a sub theme of cheating out huge permanents >>96642024Hi elk I wanna fuck your bussy
>>96642111>Hi elk I wanna fuck your bussyNot if I get to him first
>>96642115>>96642111girls, share. sloppy seconds, thirds, and fourths.
>>96642115>>96642121These conditions are acceptable
>BREAKINGBREAKING>BREAKINGBREAKINGMARO SAYS ALL BETS ARE OFF WITH UB>"I NEVER PROMISED SHIT, GO FUCK YOURSELF WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE WANT WITH UB AND DON'T CARE IF YOU FELT LIKE WE SAID WE WOULDN'T"
>>96642195The honest answer is that the reserve list and printing more UB both serve the whales and the paypigs
>>96642216Probably true but the real thing to spotlight in this reply is that he's literally saying you can't trust anything he says unless he "promises" something. If you ask him>are you going to rape this game with UB?and he says>we have no intention to do that at this timeIt as CONFIRMED as corpo-speak for "probably later"I fucking knew pic related would come to fruition one day, I had no idea it would be so fucking soon
>>96642232Tbh I think they're running hard on the fumes from the Fallout and LotR sales and used those (plus the boom from FF) to sell the idea to other brands but im curious to see where everything falls now that spiderman seems to be significantly underperforming
>>96642261>spiderman seems to be significantly underperformingAnecdotally the temperature seems to be about the same as Aetherdrift and he says that set met expectations, so I really doubt it will correct course on UB, especially when you just know the suits are always going to point at FF and say that they only need to hit a billion dollar property once out of X attempts to still be making record profits
>multiple normies on the LGS discord complaining about the volume of UB setsMaybe people are finally waking up. The Magiccon Atlanta announcement panel being so close to Spiderman's wet fart of a release is almost comical.
UB killed magic for me, it was fun while it lasted, but I'll just cut off my ties, I'll hold my decks as they are for memory sake, but that's it. No new cards ever for me. Maybe when people create an edh mode without UB shit I'll play again
>>96642339UB isn't for current players, its for roping in newfriends. Played against a bunch of spiderman commanders at my LGS and on spell table lately of people that just got in to the game. Same happened during FF.I mean, I got roped back in to MTG by fallout after I stopped playing after Theros block concluded.
>>96642339I've said many times before but Fortnitification depends on novelty. Once it's no longer novel to get wacky skins and crossovers, people just get annoyed.I think having it laid out to them that more than 50% of sets in the coming year are going to be ads on cardboard that WotC expects you to pay for the privilege of viewing, it pushed them too farAs ever, corporate greed makes a company do too much too quickly. They could really learn a thing or two from Games Workshop- the most repulsively anti-consumer hobby company in the fucking world. They raise their prices every fucking year, put less minis in a box every time they refresh a unit, chip away at the savings in bundle boxes every time they push out a new one, scrap entire units from being legally playable just to get people to buy the replacement, and so SO much more. But people still buy. In fact they have record profits. Why? Because it's incremental and they never telegraph it>>96642369People who need characters they recognize from other IPs to entice them into the game will leave when the sets are not characters they recognize
>>96642378You're not wrong. Lot of the FF guys I play with near exclusively play FF cards, and they're definitely less numerous now.
>>96641368HES STILL GOING GHAHAAHHAA IT HAS TO BE A BOT
>>96641838I wouldn't play with you at all for playing spiderslop.You're also a massive fucking faggot for running what is basically mono-red vivi.
>>96641612>>96642463No one responded to him so he had to find another post to get on a soapbox under lmao
>>96641641Its literally not though?>if AI does thing that (in the future)Hypothetical. Lol. You're retarded. Counternuptials means changing the past
>>96642024This deck doesn't look very good to me
>>96642463>RESPONDED TO POSTS 24 MINS AFTER THEY WERE MADE>THIS IS FUNNY FOR SOME REASON HOO HOO HEE HAWYou have quite severe mental issues considering you're now replying to a post 5 hours after it was made
How much protection do I want in a voltron deck? Are these +1/+1 and hexproof for G cards good enough or do I need hexproof & indestructible?
>>96642497>AI makes mistakes, especially the longer the period of time you give it to fuck up>therefore leaving AI to print a high volume of cards would be bad>"what if it wasn't bad tho?????????"Retard argument.
>>96642378Anecdotally I've heard that lot of people who got in via FF have stuck around for EOE.
>>96642528>literally one set afterWouldn't mean much even if true. See if they're still here for Lorwyn
What is YOUR favorite Temur commander
>>96642521>How much protection do I want in a voltron deck?A lot>>96642521>Are these +1/+1 and hexproof for G cards good enough or do I need hexproof & indestructible?The answer is you need a variety of effectsWhat colors are you in? Is it monogreen? Because you need to be clear on that stuff if you expect useful answers
>>96642538Intet, the Dreamer of course. Silly question.
>>96642538I don't know what temur is
Fuck it. I'm building 4c artifactsloppa.
>>96642536Fair. I've heard some also did play some Tarkir drafts after playing with FF a bunch, but apparently the data does generally point towards "people who get into Magic via UB stick around more than those who get in randomly". Like, there's the people who just buy the cards to collect because they like the IP who'll never play, sure, but the people who actually do play do tend to hang around.
>>96642538Yasova Dragonclaw
>>96642521As much protection as humanly possible. Run the mirran swords. Run robe of stars. Run not dead after all, or kaya's ghostform
>>96642538Been running Ureni the Song Unending as the end of an etb/clones deck I threw together and it's quite fun. >>96642548I've been considering swapping him or maelstrom wanderer in and focusing on cast from exile however >>96642552GBR (green blue red) check edhrec if you wanna see all the color combo names
everyone hates UB until they get a crossover they like. And i'm saying this as someone who would prefer we had zero crossovers in this game, but even i know i'd go crazy for an elden ring set. wizards is hoping that they can release crossovers fast enough to get everyone something they like to get more people on board with UB conceptually
>>96642647>GBR (green blue red) check edhrec if you wanna see all the color combo namesIt's just a joke. A deliberately unhelpful reply to a question
>>96642651>everyone hates UB until they get a crossover they likeYoui have said this in every thread for the last couple days no matter how many people reply to you saying their opposition to UB is based on principle and not personal distaste for the IPs thus farNo matter how many times you assert something, you can't make it true
>>96641571Hinatas good but any deck where the commander is needed for value people might just not let you cast him.
>>96642545>>96642631Gruul. I’ve got ~8 protection cards if you count Untimely Malfunction and the shoes. Snakeskin Veil is the only green instant I’ve got that doesn’t give indestructible, but I know I have a Blossoming Defense and a Ranger’s Guile in the bulk box
>>96642538Haldan & Pako
>>96642733Do you have an actualy decklist? Pictures are a pain to skim, especially when they're not in card type orderAlso what's the budget? Lot of red redirects could go as protection but they're not that cheap
>>96642651>everyone hates UB until they get a crossover they likeHmmmyes I would love 90 sets full of garbage art and pushed nonsense so I can have 1 set with garbage art and pushed nonsense that I like because I understood the hecking reference.
>>96641571She seems to be. I'm buidling her right now.
Haven't bought a booster pack since they released Ikoria. I knew the godzilla cards were a canary in the coal mine to gage public reaction to UB type stuff and I wanted nothing to do with it.
For reanimator decks how many targets to how many reanimations you want. Is 10 targets and 20 reanimation spells bad?
>>96642651UB is poopy and not because of the IPs being used. I hated the lotr set even though lotr is my favorite fantasy thing ever.
>>96641661>>96641797this is your brain on edhrec
>>96642824>Is 10 targets and 20 reanimation spells bad?Yes, if you don't have reliable ways to sac those targets. How'd you even find 20 reanimation spells? I can think of maybe 10 good ones
>>96642856If you love LOTR then you should hate that set yeah, it raped the franchise to a comical degree just because someone at wotc wanted to use it to own le chuds.The FF set was mostly faithful though.
>>96642866>no trust me bro, I know more than the collective wisdom of thousands of people bro, i NEED to trawl 500 cards on scryfall bro, EDHREC picks cards for some unspecified malicious reason instead of them just being the objectively best cards for what the deck is trying to do bro, trust me bro, have you ever tried psilocybin bro? i took it this one time and it revealed to me that I'm actually the smartest guy in the universe and I need to read every card in existence to build a deck
>>96642866Nah 300 cards is obscene. Focus your deck, no way it isnt going in 20 different directions
>>96642871>let me be absolutely clear about why I don't like UB as a whole, giving a specific example>heh well you shouldn't like THAT UB but this other UB was good!!!!You people are impossible
>>96642881I wasn't really arguing one side or the other of this topic it's not my debate, i was just chiming in saying that LOTR maybe isn't the best example for his point because it was particularly terrible to the point where it actually wouldn't appeal to many fans of the franchise.
>>96642770Moxfield should be up to date with what I've got in paper:https://moxfield.com/decks/mOO097P8LU-J2Gh1IUthjQ>Lot of red redirects could go as protection but they're not that cheapCheaper is better but if I can find 'em at my LGS I have tons of dollar rares to trade
>>96642896Aside from black aragorn, what is unfaithful about the set?
>>96642874>i took it this one time and it revealed to me that I'm actually the smartest guy in the universe and I need to read every card in existence to build a deckLook dude if God personally showed up and downloaded all of scryfall directly into your brain you would be going wild with that shit too
Any chance we see Noggles in Lorwyn or is Elemental kindred going to completely dominate the set's RU identity?
>>96642939I'm not sure wotc is allowed to use that word in the year of our lord 2025
>>96642914it didn't reference peter jackson enough
Jadzia Dax, Old Man1UGIf a creature card in your graveyard has Flying Jadzia has Flying. The same is true for etc.2, Exile a creature card from your graveyard: Draw a card then discard a card. If you discard a non-land, non-creature card this way put a +1+1 counter on Jadzia.3/3
>>96642944Peter Jackson's trilogy is moderately unfaithful to the source material so, why do I care about that?
>>96642939Maybe one. Keep in mind that it will be one set that covers both lorwyn and shadowmoor so they can't really waste space on noggles, pucas, hags, etc.
>>96642914They did the same thing to everyone from Rohan, basically the whole setting was deeply africanized when Tolkien explicitly stated that he created Middle Earth to be an English mythology.It's just very disrespectful and i think if they did the reverse and made a set based on amerindian folktales where everyone is White for no reason, many of the people defending this set would not be very pleased.
>>96642947>If a creature card in your graveyard has Flying Jadzia has Flying. The same is true for etc.Isn't there a card that already does this? In golgari or abzan
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96642961>Tolkien explicitly stated that he created Middle Earth to be an English mythology.>It's just very disrespectfulI can absolutely 100% guarantee you the Tolkien Estate either approved or requested specifically that they do that shit. IP licensors have a very high degree of control over how their IPs are represented and I promise you WotC would not have the liberty to do that shit without the licensor knowing about it
>>96642961There are black people in LOTR, the Corsairs of Umbar. However, they did expand it to peoples who were not originally mentioned as dark.
>>96642980Yeah the Tolkien estate is made up of money-grubbing rats who seem to resent the man who created their fortune, that's been known for a long time.I didn't say it was the fault of Wizards alone, i just said the set is bad.
>>96642961>basically the whole setting was deeply africanizedGod I wish I could live in the same levels of victim retard-delusion as the average brazilian here
>>96642939>creature called "Noggle">occupation is Bandit>flavor text about wewuz and stealinghow did they get away with this in 2008
>>96642966It's close, but not exactly the same.
>>96643002In 2008 this was not considered racist because woke hadn't been invented yet
>>96642996How is he delusional? They made basically all the humans into nigs except the ones from gondor
>>96642961https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/creating-the-look-of-the-lord-of-the-rings-tales-of-middle-earth>Some characters may look different from previous depictions—and that's intentional. Great works of art like The Lord of the Rings are only enhanced by having multiple interpretations in the world. We believe ours will bring joy to many, many fans of both Magic and Tolkien. This fresh update was a conscious choice made in partnership between Wizards and MEE and was driven by two guiding principles:>Diversity: The Lord of the Rings is about the different peoples of Middle-earth coming together to fight Sauron, finding strength in their diversity. Fans of all backgrounds have been enjoying these stories, characters, and locations for decades, and we wanted this set to reflect on that broad inclusion.>Originality: The goal of this set is to express the story and setting of The Lord of the Rings through Magic: The Gathering Countless prior efforts have painted vivid pictures of this world, but our goal is a modern take on the work of J.R.R. Tolkien, lovingly crafted for an ever-expanding fandom.
>>96643006It is a cool effect and design space they should explore moreI think generally keyword counters are under utilized
>>96643042Yup, called it.
>>96642986Yeah there's plenty of non-White races in that world, just like in ours, but they're not the Men of the West that the story is primarily about.Any dark races in Lord of the Rings are explicitly mentioned as foreigners or invaders, the races north-west of Mordor are all based on European (mostly british) peoples.
>>96643042>famously beautiful character>fridge bodied negressdiversity!
>>96643042Truly bleak.I'm glad and somewhat surprised that Square didn't let them do this to FF.
Latest iteration of Gabranth/Vondam. Haven't gotten hold of Crackdown, but this is my super-jail deck. Managed to pull an Ancient Tomb, so that's nice.https://moxfield.com/decks/bdHvVa8oskKqNaoQj-B6Aw
>>96643071FF has black people as main story characters and weebs WILL pipebomb wotc and square
>>96643068How about this one?>>96643071Unlikely to happen in media where the character's appearance is crucial. Spider-Man all seems on-model for exampleLotR never had the rights to the likenesses of actors from the movie, and it's a book so visual representations can be differentI have said this before but if they ever did a Cosmere UB and made Vin or Elend black I think i'd probably end up in a mental institution
>>96643093Of course, but they didn't make anyone else black when they shouldn't be. I guess japs are somewhat more autistic about maintaining consistency across their IPs.That being said i wonder why they didn't make Barret a flagship card, he's black and generally pretty popular so they had the perfect opportunity.
>>96643101Sanderson has enough star power and enough interest in a faithful set production that it wouldn't happen, the guy actually plays MTG and wrote a novel for wotc iirc.
>>96642024That deck is 100% bracket 3 what on earth are you talking about?
>>96643101>How about this one?Goldberry? More like would berry
>>96642024Bracket 3 doesn't have any limit on tutors as long as they're not game changers.
>>96643111>Sanderson has enough star power and enough interest in a faithful set production that it wouldn't happen,Ah but he's also a centre-leftist. The sort of thing JK Rowling was 15 years ago, before the left moved on without her and suddenly her opinions were far-right in comparison to the modern left.Old Brando has put cripples and troons in his books and talked about the importance of representation. He usually has a light touch to it when he writes, I didn't even realize the Stormlight tranny was meant to be a tranny when I read it. But if WotC suggested making key characters black I have no hesitation in believing that Sandyman would allow it
>>96642538Kalamax. The whole Temur wedge cares way too much about either Cascade or big creatures. Weird. Neither of those feel very green-blue-red for me.
>>96643135I think he's more pissed about them taking money he wanted donated to charity in his name and pocketing it as profit instead.
>>96643135>before the left moved on without herrofl you type like some epic /pol/ chud
>>96642538Loot!
>>96643135Oh my god go back to /pol/
>>96643184I want to throw rocks at this creature
You can just perfectly visualize the meetings that took place as they conceptualized the LotR set.Maybe a quarter of the room filled with morbidly obese she/theys and maybe a transvestite or two endlessly suggesting ways to make the setting more gay and brown and then the rest is made up of a mix of spindly-armed söygoys cheering on every one of those ideas and worn down husks of men silently nodding out of fear of saying anything that would endanger their careers.
Update on yesterday's cheatboy antics.Been using Ezio as my commander a lot lately. Very cheap at 2 mana. Incidentally dodges a few black removal cards (Snuff Out, Vendetta). Gives 5c access for absolute slop pile design.Hit the table with my Super State + Tainted Strike line again. Got huge value out of all 5 "if you control your commander" spells (yes, even the green one. It blocked a fight spell cast targeting Indoraptor and Ezio).Starting to see the fruits of my labor. More people are requesting b2 games instead of b3 in order to avoid my decks. I'm trying to shift my cheats to place a greater emphasis on GC cards to accentuate how miserable they are.
>>96642538I haven't made deck yet, but I imagine this would be fun to play at low brackets.
Here is the discard/reanimate deck im putting together. Just cards i (mostly) own cobbled together. Should probably throw a victimize in there, cut down on the discard. Hard to find cards that discard on opponents turns so I will have to be buying a few of those. I dunno just started last night it'll come together soon. I dunno discard stuff to reanimate, get birds for defense and to sac i supposehttps://archidekt.com/decks/16309126/discard
>>96643165>>96643188/pol/ is the boogeyman for retard redditors
>>96643232>posts /pol/ talking points>heh... boogeyman much reddit cucks?ok
>>96643232Reddit is the boogeyman for 4chan chuds
>>96643244What are the /pol/ talking points you have conjured in your mind?>>96643260Very original
At-least this year there's two sets I might be interested in instead of one.
I have weekly discussions with myselves (self-podcasts) about how much I hate TEMUR as a concept. Please stop posting temur cards.
>>96643293I'm very sorry anon, we've all acted very insensitively
>>96643207I know when she released there weren't enough adventures in her colors that were coherent enough for a deck. I don't know if that's changed. When were adventures last printed?
>>96643286Which ones?
>>96643330Likely Strixhaven, and maybe Reality Fracture
>>96643339Lorwyn looks kino though. Please tell me you're not the sperg who doesn't know the difference between saturation and dynamic range
>>96641465>TQWorking on Kefka, Court Mage. Sheoldred, Liliana’s caress, megrim, and some wheels to put a clock on. Lots of artifacts, tutors, clones, some recursion and plenty of interaction. Making some cuts for displacer kitten and fucking CHAINS OF MEPHISTOPHELES to shut down the draw engines and make a hard draw neutral or draw negative board state if someone else gets their draw enchantments down first. Added anvil of Bogardan since that with chains makes a lock. Trying to fit in some artifact/enchantment removal so I can wipe it when it’s time for me to pop off. It’s a shame Kefka’s draw isn’t a “May” condition. Thankfully bolas’ citadel doesn’t draw so I can play through it. Having to cut goodstuff like bowmasters to make it fit with what honestly seems like pet cards on the surface, but it actually jives well together despite seeming discordant. Has anyone had much play with Gwenom? Having a second bolas seems nice but having to wait for her to attack to trigger and 5cmc seems steep, especially since sheoldred gives value immediately for less and becomes a hotter target than a kefka sometimes letting me do more goofy shit with him. Weighing dropping sheoldred for her but not sure if the value is really there unless you run her as your commander
>>96643311there's the adventure lands from FF recently, they're not exactly the best for her though
>>96643311https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&dir=asc&order=released&page=2&q=Type%3Aadventure+game%3Apaper+commander%3Agur&unique=cardsThis should about cover it.
Comic book panel aesthetic. We're doomed arent we.
>>96643360That'd make sense for why I didn't know about them>>96643366Having adventures isn't the issue, the question is what do they do? It's just a grab bag of random effects that don't lead you down a game plan
>>96643375Anon have you ever opened a comic book?
>>96643351No. It just doesn't interest me.
Do you think Gay Bolas anon got hired by WotC to storyboard Reality Fracture?
>>96641656You might be interested in Wick
>>96643351The greater elementals they showed look cool, but the rest is just gonna be a boiler plate inerpretation of the original. We will not be getting any other cool art probably. The goblins they showed look lame as fuck compared to any random lorwyn goblin.
>>96643398Plenty
>>96643426Probably not. WotC wouldn't risk hiring someone that might butt heads with set design even if it made the story 100x better.
>>96643433>We will not be getting any other cool art probably.Screencapping this lol
>>96643375Dunno what the problem is, this might be my favorite blood crypt printed so farHopefully boggarts will be fun!
>>96642538>>96643143https://moxfield.com/decks/ibnZ7o5mYEm-mKVWYRILeQ--- Dino aswell
>>96642061seems like I got the attention, elk
>>96643452Sure, we can go look at the whole set together when it has been spoiled to see if it matches the immaculate vibe of the original block.
>>96643383not to mention a bunch of adventures effects are just specific to certain play styles or flat out triballike, you're not playing this card outside of a saproling deck even if there's adventure support
>>96643461The problem is it looks nothing like lorwyn
>>96642538Finally they released an energy commander I wanted to build. Only took them like 8 years
>>96642939Planeswalker's Guide mentions them and has art for them, but they're mentioned under 'other creatures' so likely they'll just be a small part.
>>96643499That would add up seeing as 4 noggle cards exist. I bet we get a legendary one.
>>96643521A good chance the Noggle type changes, though. Either to Horse, or they introduce Donkey properly (it was in joke sets prior so there's some precedent). That'd be in-line with other 'animal people' types getting changed.
>>96643486I'm convinced you're engaged in some bizarre operation to see if you can alter public opinion by just asserting things that aren't true
>>96643528nta but ur on crack
>>96643528How can you look at the Blood Crypt and the Wort posted in response and say those cards look similar. Its genuinely offensive.
>>96643581They're made in different media but that's because there's almost 20 years between their production and digital art was not as prevalent in 200-fucking-7
>>96643497>only available in full artI hate this trend
>>96643499huh, I thought these guys were asses from the unset
>>96643648Different medium* and there is no reason it cant capture the same thing digitally. It was intentional.
>>96643812How could anyone possibly hate that? Unless you're a purist that thinks that Magic cards should only ever have regular, old frames
>>96643878To an extent it is different but it's still very much capturing a lot of the same aesthetic of Lorwyn. Is it somewhat more homogenised? Probably. But they're clearly doing a lot to make it have its distinct look even now. You still will have a lot of pic-related-style where it's very much "this could only be Lorwyn".
>>96643921I like having the option of regular borders.Full art borders on mtg cards are very hit or miss a lot of times they are merely a value added process on something that is pretty unimpressive so it just ends up sticking out like a sore thumb in my decks.
>>96642521Enough to get at least one kill in, how much that is depends on who you're playing with, there's no real hard numbers here.
>>96643878Ask ChatGPT what the plural of medium is you dribbling retard
>>96641333>TQnever i have decks of almost every powerlevel so i dont really care what people play since i can just swap to match
>>96643979Anon... its a different medium. Why are you using plural where it isnt proper? Staggering retardation right here
>>96644001>Anon... its a different medium. Why are you using plural where it isnt proper?If there are two different media (digital and not), it is plural. What the fuck is your argument right now?
Pic related is the most insolent case of censorship on a magic card and I hope whoever from wotc commissioned that cooks in a boiling pool of shit.
>>96644012Same for this.
>>96644011>they>the new setIs done digitally. One medium. No idea why youre acting like there are multiple things to discuss here. Give it a rest liberal arts anon
>>96644012>>96644024Imagine having such massive brainrot that you think everything should look like porn
>>96644045>>96644045>No idea why youre acting like there are multiple things to discuss hereBecause we are comparing art from Lorwyn 2007, done in a non digital medium, and art from Lorwyn Eclipsed, done in a digital medium. 2 things. Plural. Plural of medium is media.I'm very impressed by your ability to gaslight so confidently but you're making a fool of yourself
>>96644057If everything in Magic looked like porn that would be an improvement. Imagine equipping a fat knot to Ugin before attaching Bolas to him.
>>96644057you are into some weird shit if you think this is porn
>>96644057Imagine having such massive brainrot that you link every bit of naked skin to porn. Have you even seen the video game art?
>>96644065Anon no one cares about your liberal arts degree. They (the new cards) look different and were done with a different medium correct.
>>96644150>>96644160>posts right after cooldownAw look he has to samefag to defend his awful opinion>>96644145this is fucking based though can't lie senpai
>>96644199
>>96644065You are probably arguing with a ub defender of some kind, hence the mental retardation.
>>96644167I accept your concession. Next time don't try to correct someone using a word you don't understand.>>96644211Wouldn't surprise me
https://archidekt.com/decks/13854291/gogowhat should I change? direct improvements? tell me to eat my UB commander?I should probably take out the clones as they've never done enough, lulu for being lower power and I don't need the repeatable proliferate. considering rapid hybridization for cyberman conversion, e.wilds and terramorphic for urza's cave and the 'metalcraft 1 for each urza's' land. also need to cut something once I find a shadow of the second sun.I thought about swapping to ETBs more than activated abilities, but it works out to be a much bigger change that naban/thassa is already better at.also apparently I have 101 sleeves because the deck also has a preordain in it.as an aside, why is guildpact informant a 3 dollar common while thrummingbird is under 50 cents
>>96642280>Anecdotally the temperature seems to be about the same as Aetherdrift and he says that set met expectationsI get what you're saying but expectations for one product are not necessarily expectations for another. Aetherdrift was probably predicted to be a stinker based on lack of hype and they can write that off as a failed experiment IF surrounding products succeed. Something like Spiderman Im positive had way higher expectations than aetherdrift and it's the first time since aetherdrift I'm seeing tons of excess product sticking around a week after at multiple stores
>>96644208>look mom, I used the console!!! :^)Yeah, we know dude.
>>96644218>talking about ONE singular thing>ermm its plural for.... reasons!>even if it was plural hes still wrongThis is so sad, new lorwyn was made using a different medium.
>>96644281oh, I also thought about riverchurn as another combo win, but I feel like I'd need some other support like hedron/ruin crab, water crystal, and/or more, if anyone has experience using that.
>>96644295>Something like Spiderman Im positive had way higher expectations than aetherdrift and it's the first time since aetherdrift I'm seeing tons of excess product sticking around a week after at multiple storesWell, like I say, the way the suits are going to justify it is that 1 billion dollar jackpot justifies a number of flops. It won't deter them even if Spider-Man doesn't come close to meeting expectations. They will just gamble on finding the next FF
>>96643339If reality fracture is a time spiral style of set we might be in for extreme kino>>96643497I really just wish they didn't staple energy into this deck, I don't her or the new Saheeli to be that interesting or fun to build around. New Nissa is kinda cool tho
>>96644338You've posted a fag pile a couple of times now, please stop.
>>96644346A 1 billion dollar jackpot could be argued to justify some N number of flops, but it's possible for those flops to be substantial enough that N is fairly small. Dialing back the number of UB releases because they become more discerning about what licenses they purchase would still be an improvement.
>>96644368>I really just wish they didn't staple energy into this deck>a deck that was entirely about energyAnon, you might have brain problems. That's like saying that they "stapled" red to a mono-red deck.
>>96644371I've posted this once months ago, and occasionally asked silly questions like "how many times do I have to copy rishadan footpad's ETB before it's considered MLD"
>>96644316Unironical schizo post.
>>96641627was telling my wife about this card while we were playing commander together last weekend. we're expecting our second son in about 2 weeks here and I cannot wait.My son, a 3 year old, who doesn't watch television or anything, found out about Spider-Man from a friend and has been really into him. When he found out Spider-Man was in "dad and mom's card game" he was unbelievably excited. I've been letting him have the art cards and tokens and stuff that have any of the characters in them.Can't wait to have my first game of magic with him in a few years. He's a good kid. Hopefully he'll like it and teach his brother too. I am blessed :)(Pic related, I'm sure sour people reading this will be acting similarly, it goes like this usually on this board)
>>96644385What I'm saying is it could've just been Temur artifacts, and I don't think the implementation of energy onto the commanders (Saheeli especially) makes them more interesting or fun to build around. I just want freaking Temur artifacts
>>96642538Tana + Sakashima making as many clone tokens as possible. Its basically a hidden Brudiclad and Esix deck. I made a whoppin 28 Bonehoard Dragons last time I played with it.
>>96644012Sucks for you but meanwhile my wife got a massive upgrade
>>96644468Where are you anons finding these?
>>96644480they were in a polygon article of all things showing all the promos in the gift bundle that's coming out.
>>96641586It’s intentional. Aetherdrift was made bad on purpose so wizards could point at it and go “SEE THIS SET SUCKED PLAYERS LOVE UB”
>>96644441Okay, but the entire goal of that precon was to fulfill the frequently-repeated request for Temur energy support. And Saheeli's a fairly decent energy commander.
>>96644486Maro actually walked through the fact that Aetherdrift got kneecapped in design because of all the other changes they were making, which was refreshingly honest of him.
Boronko, Seraph of Assbeatings3 Angel Demon OtterYou must spend colored mana to cast this spell. Flash, HorsemanshipIf an ability would trigger, instead it triggers and it’s controller loses 3 life. As long as an opponent has 10 or more nonland permanents, Boronko cannot leave the battlefield, and it can’t lose abilities no matter what or be turned face down.Kyle, Archon of ArchonsElemental archon incarnationRWBIf an opponent would make you sacrifice a permanent, you may have that player sacrifice a permanent they control of your choice instead. If an opponent may have you pay mana, they must choose to do so. If an opponent would have you pay mana, you may pay with their life instead.
>>96644486Why did they make dragons of tarkir and EoE so good then?
>>96644368Agreed, I've been wanting a new time spiral for years.
>>96644346I just hope they eventually realize Marvel is FUCKING DEAD and only give us one more set of this boomer slop capeshit then pivot away from doing the 5 other marvel sets they have planned.
>Play your commander from the command zone>Then play your commander from the graveyard>Then play your commander from exileNext I just need to bounce it and play it from hand and and then tuck it and figure out a way to play it from the library...
>>96644671And before you fags bring up Marvel rivals, it's only doing well do to the gooner character designs of the waifus and you know for a fact WotC and Disney won't allow that on their magic cards.
>>96642024I just cheat whenever someone asks to play bracket 3. Hard to do anything when I have a turn 2 Smothering Tithe into a Wheel of Fortune followed by a Windfall.
>>96644684Ninjutsu will let you return it to hand.
>Mutatejutsu ability that lets you mutate onto an unblocked creature
>>96644652Tarkir was an outlier caused by one autist buying out the set. Nobody actually thinks gay bolas memes are funny.
>>96644671There's probably only one or two more sets planned after Super Heroes (one X-Men set and one Cosmic set would be my guesses). I don't think any will do great, but I assume they'll all do better than Spider-Man by virtue of actually having design.
>>96644787You underestimate how dead and oversaturated the marvel brand is. It's not 10 years ago. Disney killed all hype and love for marvel just like they killed star wars
>>96641586>I won't complain about Duskmournec u c kuck
>>96644429Larp post, not even possible to play around a toddler.
>>96644842this art looks sick>literally decades of comic art>wotc shits the bed with original art
>>96644842>human rules nightmareKek
>>96644839Nta. My 13 month old is really interested in cards he sees me and my wife playing with. He always grabs pikes of magic cards if he has access to them. I started giving him random junk commons in sleeves and he treats them like holy treasures (before eventually bending and folding them). Imo if young kids see their parents interested in something, they become interested in it too.
>>96644913>pikes*Piles
>>96643351This is sick as fuck, is there more?
>>96644839lol, dawg maybe you should just not raise a shitty retarded kid
>>96644842Needs to be Commander Mutatejutsu.
>>96644998naw
>>96644913my 9mo loves chewing on mountainsI made the mistake of trying to sort while she was crawling around. Anything you are interested in they are immediately interested in I suppose.
Last year we got 13 precons, a set of 5 a set of 4 and 2 doubles. We know we're getting 4 for lorwyn so what's your predictions for next year? If both UW get 2 again we're left with either 4 from marvel or star trek>>96642538I haven't gotten around to making anything in that combo yet. Swarmlord from 40k seems cool but I've barely seen any of these cards IRL
>>96644935https://scryfall.com/sets/ecl?as=grid&order=set
>>96644935This nigga pretty sweet
>>96642536I got back in from FF and I'll be here you dumb motherfucker
>>96645074>I left once but I won't do it again!!!Whatever you need to tell yourself.
>I BUILT A $35 DHALSIM DECK THAT CANT BE STOPPEDI gotta stop clicking on edh content on youtube
>>96645088I watch a lot of Magic "influencer" shorts on youtube even though I fucking hate all of them>le asian rules interaction guy>le balding millennial with a backwards baseball cap guy>le younger millennial desperate to connect with gen z by putting a joke or explicit euphemism in every sentence guy>le doesn't fucking get how short form content works and awkwardly frames everything he wants to discuss as a dialogue with himself where one side is a new and inexperience player guy
>>96645083>played when I was in college a dozen years ago>now I'm an adult who has time and money for the hobbyUh oh!
>>96641333>When was the last time you actually told someone to leave the table because they weren't matching everyone else's power?Literally never.
>>96645110>>le doesn't fucking get how short form content works and awkwardly frames everything he wants to discuss as a dialogue with himself where one side is a new and inexperience player guyThis one makes my soul cringe directly out of my body
>>96641797>It's so excessiveIt's silly yeah but I like it more because the alternative involves a lot more scattered instances of adding new cards. By pulling everything together and then doing the cuts I can keep things consistent. It's just a mentality thing.Judith was one of the first cards I added along with stuff like Light Up The Stage just cause of the aesthetic. There are a couple of total dogshit Rakdos-themed cards in my Maybeboard that it pained me to cut, like Blade Juggler. Cult Guildmage is probably going too.And yeah you're right that all those are in there, but so are both Hidetsugus, Stalking Vengeance, Sawblade Skinripper, Raven of Fell Omens, Enterprising Scallywag, Grim Haruspex, Spiteful Prankster (really like this one), Zoyowa, Geistcatcher, Season of Loss, Soultrader, Perforating Artist, etc etc etc. Somehow missed the original Blood Artist actually.Also Umbral Collar Zealot is cool, barely paid attention to EOE so hadn't heard of this one. Already have several sac outlets but I'll put him in for when I've got it fully narrowed down.>>96643429>see rad design>it's BLBEvery time, I will never not regret skipping that set. But yeah that looks fun as fuck, the only other commander I've thought about running for a rat-heavy deck is Totentanz who's really cool but also probably way better off in the 99.
>>96645130If he would just present to the camera>Today I wanna talk about...He would get to the fucking point faster and be infinitely less cringe
>>96645110My brother in-law uses those shorts to find combos for his deckshe thinks his decks are so fucking cool for adding a combo that wins with Staff of Domination
>>96645064Why is this even a flip card? The planeswalkers guide explicitly states they are two seperate beings.
>>96644834>I personally hate the MCU so literally everything Marvel-related is dead forever
>>96645154Because they're both the Worldsoul of Lorwyn's aspects. They're very much a tied-together thing, even if they're TECHNICALLY separate.
>>96644429Cute post but I'm obligated to give you shit for>Facebook>screenshot of Facebook congrats anon
>>96641333Last thread we discussed the zergs, but I want the protoss commanders.
>>96645110#3 is probably maldhound, who are the rest? I could use some rules interaction slop
>>96645297>#3 is probably maldhound,Yeah>who are the rest?I really wouldn't remember their names unless someone put them to me, as you just did
>>96645297#4 is probably thatmillguy
>>96645212Flimsy excuse to just make a card do more things than it should. I hate flip cards so fucking much.
>>96644784>One anon singlehandedly made the best set of the year a success and got WotC to change their writing directionI kneel.
>>96645202>balding white millenial funkopops owner loves his capeslop and desperately tries to cope that Marvel isn't deadThe comics don't sell either, champ.
>>96645228ATARO ADUNI personally want to make Ghost deck
>>96645312No, he's brown. The one I'm thinking of is white. He does these "skits" where he talks to himself in a dialogue, its incredibly awkward because he can't act or write so everything about it feels unnatural>"hey, I'm having difficulty understanding [insert incredibly fucking basic game concept]>"[insert massive fucking info dump explaining it]"
>>96645297asian rules autist is Keeping It Casual#2 could be literally a dozen people
>>96644671Anon I think its clear that already happened, judging from the fact we went from spider-man to literally all other marvel heroes, what probably *was* 5 sets got pared down to actually be cohesive ones
>>96642733Chaos Warp sucks
>>96645406>asian rules autist is Keeping It CasualYes>#2 could be literally a dozen peopleI think his username is his real name, if that narrows it down. I could be wrong though. As I say I really dont remember
>>96644998the last line lets you mutatejutsu it from the command zone
>>96645444>hard anything removal in R is bad
Daily reminder Star Trek has been in magic since the beginning.
>>96644842>rules nightmareyou aight anon
God I wish Yuriko wasn't aids
>>96645585Hard R removal?
>>96645703TOTALRAKDOSDEATH
>>96645414How fast do you think a set is made? They absolutely planned this set before Spider-Man was even revealed. It neatly lines up with how Marvel, broadly, separates its comic lines into Spider-Man, Super Heroes, X-Men and Cosmic.
>>96644913Yes, definitely interested, but not possible to play without grabbing things from the table.>>96644959Glad this retard won't have any kids though.
>>96645488But being Commander Mutatejutsu makes it even more of a manmade horror beyond our comprehension.
>>96645414Wait til the comic con unannounced UB set.
>>96644913>baby grabs literally anything he can reachwhoa no way
>>96645701Just add commander tax her ninjutsu like it always would have been if jotc were competent or play any number of other weeb commanders.
>>96644706most who pushes brackets is like this and it needs to be fixed NOW
I am okay with UB if they do more with japanese aritsts instead
>>96646139unfortunately they already know that people will chase Japanese-made art because it's better than their generic AI slop so it's all gonna be overpriced Secret Lairs and collector booster chase cards for you
>>96645110Is number 4 a dig at my mole man mocking comboslop? He's based as fuck
>>96645110you forgot the trannies
>helloEVERYBODYit'sSETHprobablyBETTERKNOWNasSaffronolive
>>96646205Hello this is your host Demo was the most based one
>>96642538Miirym the Dragon Printer, of course!
>>96646191I know exactly who he's talking about but I don't know his name because I never actually watch his videos for longer than it takes to register it's him
>>96646139I'm sure that can be arranged.
>>96646211Too bad he became a sour fuck. He had great videos and unique ideas, just he got butthurt because he didn't understand how to make a literal lobby for his Bracket 1 decks and enforce it.
Does this card have any use anymore?
>>96646256yes, if you can't afford farewell or are desperately in need of more exile boardwipes
>>96645414Didn't maro say they had plans for 5 marvel sets and it was his favorite IP? I thought they were doing avengers and x men as separate sets
>>96646256Power creep is real anon. Come to terms with it.
>>96646274Farewell is like 4 bucks now if youre not a memelord who needs the Spanish version.
>>96646294>it's literally just Adióswho authorized this
>>96646294Speaking of foreign language cards, anyone know a place I could pick up a French Delay without dropping $40? Planning to get it for a buddy for Christmas.
