Rats of unusual size edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>96620288>TQ: What's your favourite character from the setting?
>>96641702>TQThe answer is obvious it’s the general for My Dudes
>TQSigmars a pretty rad dude
Whats your 500pts Border Watch project going to be?
>>96641770none, 2000 or die. skirmish is a meme format.
>>96641708My breyherd would ambush your breyherd so hard breh
>>96641702>>TQ: What's your favourite character from the setting?I just think he's fun.
>>96641770What are the composition rules?
>>96641778Fight me! Meet me in the deep forest you beastkid
>>96641770Going for Vampire Counts or Beastmen. Gotta see composition rules when they come out but for VC i'm leaning to a necromancer and a bunch of zombies/ghouls over vampires and skeles and for beastmen straight brayherds with maybe a cockatrice if nasty.
can someone share the matched play guide pdf?
>>96641770>500pts
>>96641870Read the links in the OP agein anon
>>96641916Sorry there's a lot there I just want the matched play guide do you have it
>>96641775Why not 3000?
>>96641775>Not 5000fucking poorfags.
>>96641939Do you really need this much handholding?
If I painted my empire dudes in quartered/halved purple and blue, where would you suspect them as being from?
>>96642202Wherever you said they were from. Now get them painted so we can play a game or two, anon. Enough navel-gazing!
>>96642202I have no idea about empire provinces I only know reikland's isn't actually the white and red one
>>96641795Probably whats in the Seize the Tower warcom pdf but with additional rules for going up to 750.
>>96641770Gonna do a Slayer Cult for my dorfs, and then either a High Elf lothern themed list or a Beastmen list.Would be very funny to take the herdstone at 500 points.
How would you feel about beastmen having werewolves?
>>96642283Was kinda sad they didn’t have skinwolves
>>96641702>TQMiao Ying
>>96642283nope. doesnt vibe well.
>>96642283not really a problem with it, but having werewolves always raises a lot of questions about their natureare they a type of turnskin? as in human mutated by chaos into a beast permanently?do they shift back and forth into their human form? if so, do they have control or do they have split personalities? is the human on board with hanging around with beastmen? are the beastmen on board with hanging around with a werehuman?is there a specific reason why it's just werewolves and not werebears or werebadger or something else?is this condition transmissible?if the answers to the above vary, how many types of werewolves exist and what was the history of such a variegated condition?
>>96642283What would be the point?>werewolf form is just a regular beastman>gets raped by the other beastmen when he turns back into a humanThe real question is: should Cults of Ulric have access to werewolves?
>>96642202a rich trading town from either Nordland or Middanland
What are some good looking well sculpted proxies for Empire or Bretonnia? I'm honestly looking for historical inspired instead of overly exaggerated 3d printer stuff like reptilian overlordPic related
>>96642343>if the answers to the above vary, how many types of werewolves exist and what was the history of such a variegated condition?I have 6 types of werewolves in my headcanon.>ancient shamanistic not!redskins that practiced shapeshifting before chaos>chaos warping those people's magic into a curse inherited by their descendants (many traces of their blood are in the tribes of the wastes, norsca included), these include chaos weres and skinwolves>people mutated by chaos (not true weres, just more beastmen mutants)>a bloodline carrying the curse being accepted and protected by ulric for a past deed there's no written record of>the creation of the von carstein experimenting on these blood cursed people to create a new breed of undead servants, only these turn others into werewolves by biting them >some of these necromantic werewolves fled from the shackles of sylvania and hide in the empire, witch hunters kill them or ruthlessly break them so they can be turned into hounds for hunting vampires
>>96635876I know this is late, but sure. They're an alliance of tribes in Naggaroth based on Native American peoples west of the Mississippi River. Some of these tribes are settled, and others are nomadic, but they generally get along despite their differences. They're enemies with Chaos, the Greenskins, the Dark Elves and the Skaven, but they enjoy positive relations with the High Elves, Cathay and Nippon, along with having uneasy alliances with the Amazons and the Lizardmen. Strongly valuing freedom and opposing slavery, they're known to help free slaves from their enemies.One similarity they have with the Lizardmen is their affinity for great beasts. Some of these beasts are based on Ice Age North American megafauna, while others are based on monsters from various Native American mythologies (including horned serpents, underwater panthers, and of course thunderbirds). They also make use of some of Naggaroth's less overtly impressive but no less useful fauna. Three words: pronghorn-drawn chariots.
>>96635876>>96642571However, there are some pretty notable playstyle differences between them and the Lizardmen. One is that, while the Lizardmen tend to favor endurance over agility, these guys take the opposite approach. There are exceptions, as there are with the Lizardmen, but overall, they're more about mobility than durability.They also have guns, unlike the Lizardmen, acquired from Cathayan and Nipponese merchants. Don't expect the disciplined ranks of Imperial gunners, however; they generally use their guns for skirmishing, sharpshooting and shock attacks. The majority of their ranged troops are still bows, tomahawks and throwing spears.In general, they and the Lizardmen have complementary strengths, each covering the other's weaker points.
>>96642283Don't wouldn't it. I'd prefer if the Empire had werewolves instead.
>>96642610wouldn't like* it.
>>96642571>Strongly valuing freedom and opposing slavery, they're known to help free slaves from their enemies.Lol so not really like native americans in that sense
>>96635876>>96642602>>96642571This being Warhammer, however, they do have their dark side. Scalping of enemies is common practice, for example, and they're capable of shocking brutality to their enemies... and themselves as well, with self-mortification rituals being an accepted norm. They're also no less vulnerable to the taint of Chaos than other humans; some tribes have given themselves over to it entirely, and some individuals affected by Chaos become inhuman entities like wendigos or skinwalkers.What do you think of these guys?
>>96642624If they're natives from Naggaroth, it makes some sense why they would be anti-slavery since the Dark Elves probably killed most of them
>>96642624That creative decision was partly done to underscore them being foils to the Lizardmen, which are essentially organic robots that can't determine their own fates and probably don't even want to.
>>96642485Im with ya bub. WGA and perry minis are kinda tempting me but im still holding out hope for better looking minis out there. Shame victrix is expensive as fuck in the states.
>>96642629That's not warhammer though, that's just real life.
>>96642661>that's just real lifeYeah, I keep running into wendigos on my way to work. They take way too long to cross. So annoying.
>>96642671Scalping and brutal sure is though, as opposed to what you're suggesting by describing that right after saying >This being Warhammer, however, they do have their dark side.
>>96642682being brutal*
>Britpol nationalist at flgs try to get in on our TOW nights>Loses his fucking rag bigly when he learns albion is a shithole swamp of barely clothed druids and not important at all in the settingIs this the only gammon repelling game in the GW roster?
>>96642661>>96642682I didn't mean to imply that real Native Americans never did these things, I just wanted to make it clear that like most of the good-aligned factions in Warhammer, they may be fighting for a righteous cause, but they're no saints. Sorry if my wording caused confusion.
>>96642696Bloodbowl probably as well, since it's based on American Football and not proper Football or Rugby
>>96642696Sounds like a made up story from a sad attention whore
>>96642696Orcs and ogres should be enough rep for his ilk
>>96642727Yeah buddy its all a secret plot against you from people with nothing better to do, 4 in the afternoon was the perfect time for the fire nation to attack unawares.
>>96642696This didn't happen, you are a massive homo for making it up, and the fact that you expect to receive positivity in response to your political mindwank sesh is even sadder
>>96642696if someone introduces himself as anything other than a person with a name and a desire to play, then lying to get him out is probably goodbut if you said that thinking it's the actual truth then you're wrong, albion is massively important, and the writers wrote the high elves as their self inserts englishmen, way more than the people of albion, who are still wise, noble etc etc
>>96642732You were just too obvious with your buzzwords, sorry. Better luck next time.
>>96642653Bruh, do you know what black slaves did when they were freed and allowed to make their own country back in Africa?They enslaved the population around them, and then called the place 'Liberia' lmao
>>96642744Looking up the Maroon Society in North America would probably be a better example of this, as the Dark elves are still hunting them, we aren't dealing with Former Slaves who have had a big shift in the power dynamics and now get to boss another ethic group around, instead which was the case with Liberia
Napelonic aesthetics would be too much for warhammer right?
>>96642789Yup
Do we have leaks about this new empire army of infamy?
>>96642571>>96642602Dude, Native Americans owned so many fucking slaves kek. They also would NOT fucking ally with other tribes long-term even against clear existential threats like the American military and routinely backstabbed and sold each other out. They're like one step above Skaven in that regard, and that's for the "civilized" tribes who aren't full-blown Bone Tomahawk mode like the Cherokee and Apache. Not to mention the gratuitous war crimes, rape, and torture they committed routinely. We called them savages for a reason.Your playstyle for them sounds cool, you're just hilariously ignorant of how fucked up they were in history and you're clearly going for a cringe Disney Pocahontas viewpoint of them. They should have Dark Elf scalps hanging from their belts and disheveled Dark Elf captive women in chains covered in filth trailing behind them.
>>96642696>And then everybody clapped
>>96642789Kinda, yes, I have my getaround, but you can't really present them as anything other than an aesthetic oddity, rather than a development.
>>96642826Do you think aztecs were lizardmen with spaceships and the plan for the world resting on their shoulders?
>>96642854You're not making a whimsical lizard person army, you're making Not!Native Americans and turning them into Mexican Orcs. Kys.
>>96642571hehe, penur
>>96642857He's making fantasy north american indians.You're crying about /pol/shit.
>>96642826The thing is that one of the main reasons the Native Americans never formed a united front against European colonialism (or the nations established as a result of that colonialism) was because they were the victims of divide-and-conquer. The Dark Elves never thought to do that because of their arrogance and severe contempt for humanity.
>>96642857Based>>96642789No. Warhammer Fantasy has no aesthetic continuity
>>96643001They never formed an allied front because they were never part of the same group in the first place and because plenty of native tribes had peaceful, friendly and profitable relationships with europeans.
>>96642610>>96642361I personally like the idea that was alluded to in the first gotrek and felix book:Werewolfs and ulricians have a very ulrician standoffish "You do your shit and I do my shit and we wont fuck with each other much" kind of relationship. They aint allies and prefer to isolate from each other, but they also have a kind of mutual wordless respect.
>>96643128?
>>96643057And China was never ruled by dragons. Your point?
>>96643281Learn how to follow a discussion on this website before posting
>>96642489
>>96643281>And China was never ruled by dragons.wrong, who do you think grants the mandate of heaven?
>>96643281Had it not been for the laws of this board, I would have depicted you as a søyjak
>>96641702>TQFor me it's Alarielle
>>96642826>>96643057You know what? Thinking it over, you might have a point. Maybe I should come up with some kind of lore justification.
So in the space of 2 weeks or so I read 3 BL novels and thought I'd share my thoughts on them.>ValkiaThis novel was really strange as this is the first most blatant mary sue written character I have seen in BL. It is, as one can guess, about the life of Valkia. The first half, Valkia can do no wrong and is correcting her father even at the very start as a child. There is no real challenge and she passes things easily. She is repungently evil and has no real depth, remaining mostly the same start to finish.However, it actually gets decent half way when she goes to see Khorne and the writing takes a noticeable upgrade in quality. Still, there was something off in the writing style and couldn't help but feel the author had a chip on her shoulder.>WulfrikC.L Werner's third Chaos book and it is pretty good. Starts in media res, Wulfrik is given a premonition of his death and a promise for his curse to be broken.This was probably the most brutal of books, showing the Norse on a societal level but also skirmishes and battles from their view. The ending is probably the most visceral I have read as the Norse raid an Empire town, a description of a baby getting its head split open by a Norscan as an example.Yet despite this and other brutal violence, the Norse feel human as Wulfrik and his band traverse the Old World.4/5>SigvaldBy far the best of the three. Narrated from three views, Marauders, an Empire Baron and Sigvald himself, we see the true depths and dangers of Slaanesh.Shockingly, Sigvald is written with substance, being a psychotic but charming menace but also a self aware man entrapped by his hubris and want for glory.This had a nice balance of violence, adventure and narration. The Baron falls for Sigvald's wife, the Tribes look to slay Sigvald to remove a curse and Sigvald himself is a character you grow to love and hate.5/5
>>96643820Forgot to rate Valkia.3/5If you can get past the authors chip on her shoulder and somewhat up front feminist tones in the first half, the latter part of the story is quite good. However i'd say if you find the rough writing a bit too much, maybe more objectively 2.5/5
I didn't drop this build. I was just busy with work and then went on a vacation to get some inspiration, visiting castles and such. It's not perfect, and it will stand out from my previous buildings, but all in all it's an improvement - bricking is the way to go. Anyone else working on terrain for their tables?>>96641702>TQKemmler & Krell
>>96642571>I know this is late, but sure. They're an alliance of tribes in Naggaroth based on Native American peoples west of the Mississippi RiverNo there aren't Dark Elves enslaved and genocided all the native human tribes when they landed in Canada. You're posting head canon.
>>96641702>TQArbaal the Undefeated and my general, Korgoth the Destroyer
>>96643950Looking good anon.I Guess as a single terrain piece it might feel odd on a flat table, are you planning on making any other terrain to go along with it?
>>96644016That something that can always be retconned if GW wanted to expand Naggaroth, which outside of the Far East and maybe the Southlands, was a rather underdeveloped location in the Warhammer World, it's not like Lustria doesn't have the possibility of Native human populations in the Culchan plains so you could see Human native in places like the Plains of Dogs or the Red Desert in Naggaroth
>>96642202If i have to guess, id say one of the Northern provincies?, Middenland, Nordland, even Reikland or Ostermark?
>>96642789Works for Nuln, since they are at the cutting edge of /fa/.
>>96644048You can see some of my terrain in pic related. The two buildings which are visible are roughtly the same size as a single small segment of my three-parter I've just finished.
Would anyone have a comparative picture of a regular Orc Boy compared to an Ogre please?
>>96642202Just make up the colors for your own city, noble retinue, mercenary force, etc you are allowed to make stuff up.
>>96644127How did you make the river?
>>96642202Totally not tzeentchian cultists.
>>96644259I've bought it. It's 2d river printed on some kind of rubber. The only 2d terrain I can accept.
>>96643950Based terrain crafter. I know it's not for fantasy, but I sat down and made this garage in one sitting a day or two ago. I really need to start handcrafting some mini furniture so the buildings aren't so empty inside.
Looks like Tomb Kings (and presumably Brets) will be getting their own Battalion Boxes eventually.
>>96644422Is this the first Battalion box that has a Character in the box as standard?
>>96644422So if I'm correct that's the>sphinx set (2 minis)>tomb guard set (20 minis)>normal skellies (36 minis)In yuros that 197.5 bucks, for a 27% discount at 145€ though I guess thoss prices are about to change. Bit more approachable compared to the starter set that's like 240 or something.
>>96644422secondary market is still flooded with cheap as chip skeleton bodies so this is jack shit for me. >>96644457the character is just a leftover bit from the sphinx
>>96644463Yeah, and they're all pretty useful/meta so a great deal imo.
>>96644535Only downside is half your models being absolutely ancient normal skellies. Yeah I know they "soul" or whatever but they look their age and the moldlines are fucking terrible. Tomb Guard are cool though and the sphinx isn't too shabby either.
>>96644655Yeah the basic-ass skeletons are the only "old models" complaint I understand. They're not super TK-ing (though kitbashing can fix that) but those mold lines are suicide inducing tier.
>>96641958Sorry I'm new to Warhammer do you have the pdf
>>96644717It is in the gofile link in the OP.
How do you fill gaps on the movement trays in a way that looks nice?
>>96644729There's a lot there I'm just looking for the matched play did if you've got it sorry
>>96644903Its the second from the bottom, gofile doesn't let you link things directly sadly.
>>96644422I'm surprised they didn't release this with the new character sculpts locked in
>>96644980the new sculpts are a product meant for already existing players, tow doesn't have the kind of consumer base that would eat some hundreds of dollars worth of old models they probably already have to get a few plastic new exclusives
>>96644980>>96645210Also this is the first box with a character, mainly because it is already part of the WS kit. Otherwise they tend to leave characters out of it.
>>96644382Okay I put whipped out a few small pieces of furniture just now. It all turned out fairly pleasant. I used super glue on the bed and unfortunately it bled through the felt blanket, so that's a failure, but other than that I like how the bed turned out. Once I paint up the fridge and oven and stuff it should look pretty nice I think
>>96645326If you want props to fill out the place I can recommend Green Stuff world and their resin bits>https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/243-modern-furniture-and-scenery
>>96645372Wow, some good stuff in there! Thanks bro, very affordable too
>>96642789Yes, significantly past the historical time period that Warhammer is based off of.
>>96645402Yeah GSW is pretty good with their resin bits, that's where I got my ferns and mushrooms from to kit out my bases for my beastmen.
>>96644259Looks like a Battlefield in a Box river.
When youtubers will start posting reviews of Settra Arcane Journal?
>>96644463Assuming they don't remove the starter set, if you pick that up + this box you're getting a 2000-3000pt army, the rulebook needed to run it, the templates, and some dice for ~$480 bucks.Not bad at all
First, the playmat we got from the club wasnt 4 feet wide, so not sure what was up with that, the whole table was used. All terrain was labelled dangerous except the hill and tower. The dangerous river in top left was flowing towards left, not sure why he wanted it dangerous but sure.I got board side choice and this was initial set up.Slaanesh coomer beastmen vs chaos dwarfs. Wolf riders in skirmish with khan and fireball ring, 20 unit of sneaky gits ambush, 20 chaos dwarfs of some kind with shotguns, and 2 characters I'm not even sure what they were (showing how important that were in the match).Mine was great Brey shaman with skin of man and hagtree (white elf), wild herd beside tower, pig on right side behind hill looking towards right corner (empty bases), one unit of 10 shortbow ungors in tower, ambush 10 short bow ungors, ambush 8 javelin centigors, and the Ghorgon I used as a cygor to try.
>>96645657Is this bait? No way real people actually play games this soulless?
>>96645657I forgot to take pics of two turns sadly. First turn he marched his wolves up within range of tower. That's it. Left the dwarfs 2 inches from river.My turn 1 turned wild herd around, moved pig and cygor to force sneaky gits onto only the right board edge or his side unless he wanted to be in range of wild herd charge range. Brought mage into dangerous forest. Rolled the spells strangle thorn, wodespan, and took devolve. Out of range on dwarfs for devolve but would be worthless there anyway. Use against wolves but he used evasion to get out of range, but still within range of tower archers. They got two kills. Cygor tried to pitch a rock and hurt itself.His turn 2, gits came on board, he stuck them in front of pig and threw knives. No wounds cause of toughness and range limitations. His wolves move back towards my mage, fire at her missing from trees and range, his fireball went off but rolled only 2 hits, and both failed to wound. Dwarfs stood still. My turn 2 ungors enter board on his side nearest to wolves and are in skirmish. Pig charges gits, 6 kills, he hits me twice. They flee off board and pig follows. Wild herd turns back around. Move up cygor, pitch a rock, bullseye drop one dwarf, and he ward saves the rest. Use tower shots on wolves, they evade out of range, but get in range of ambushers who get 2 kills. Mage moves up, devolves wolves killing 3, they panic and run off board through my ungors.
>>96645676Not bait, but our club is trash.>>96645682The rest of the fight amounts to him deciding to Forde the dangerous terrain river, losing 8 dwarfs to terrain over 3 turns, 1 wound each on his heroes from terrain, and me killing 5 dwarfs over the course of 4 rounds of shooting. He did kill 7 of my 8 centigors, but that's it. I did get wodespan off once but he dispelled it on his next turn. My pig sat on the hill. My wildherd did a little dance outside the tower. The ungors in tower moved up to shoot. Very underwhelming match.
>>96645676Somebody show this guy the cathay tournament airforce from last thread
>>96645570Legally?Saturday, when it goes up for pre-order, but I would be surprised if no one leaks the book's rules before that
>>96645709So they probably already have them, correct?
>>96645657I would unironically just go home if I went to game night and this was the terrain available to play on and my opponents army looked like this
>>96645657>>96645692Are those.... Empty bases being played as troops?
>>96645723Yeah. As someone pointed out last thread though, I'm going to print some paper standies until my prints get done.
>>96645716the E-celebs and youTubers?Yeah, they have had the book and minutes for a week at this point, if not longer
>>96645657Kek, another one added to the collection. I think it's time for another bad Warhammer terrain thread
>>96645726Based. >>96645692>but our club is trash.FLGS here is mostly 40k and magic so the terrain sounds are abysmal. I'm thinking about donating some more. At least the smelly mtg needs have been banished to another part of the store.
>>96643679Nice round ears.
>>96643333Heaven isn't rules by dragons, the mandate of heaven has nothing to do with dragons.
>>96642826There is a speech during the opening scene of 'Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee' that describes the situation with the Native Americans very well (and it's delivered by a White Cav Soldier so its even funnier)
