Invocation of Nehek edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread: >>96641702>TQ: Post your favourite spell
>TQI will forever love a system that allows one to melt someone's fucking helmet and make it all burn down his face.
>>96662504I can tell you the one I hated the most
Itchy Nuisance. Incredibly fun and useful effect but the idea of making enemies really itchy really sells it for me. Extremely cool and thematic for Goblins.
So, of the setting's three main Big Bad Evil Guys (Archaon, Malekith and Nagash), which do you like the best?
A friend and I were considering having a "drunken brawl" in which we apply this rule to every unit in the game. Anyone done it before?>Also, in what mission are Dwarf gunlines least effective? Despite being second to worst in the current meta, my Ex-force tends to dominate everyone in my local meta unless I heavily nerf myself in the list building phase
>>96662782>A friend and I were considering having a "drunken brawl" in which we apply this rule to every unit in the game.That's not very impactful, it's just going to make the game a slower slogThere's also this rule for alcoholism that comes from warhammer's first scenarioBut I think you would do better with a custom table that can make things more interesting, for example I think the most hilarious effects would be moving (fast) randomly across the table and mistaking a friendly unit for an enemy unit or rushing for a brawl.Or in the case of cavalry, chariots and monsters, roadkill and crashing
>>96662782You are forgetting something here Dakka Dorf anon- 99.999% of locals are not remotely to the same level as comp tournaments.Tournaments, people specifically tailor their lists to a near autistic degree, putting the probability of success to absolute maximum.Locally you get a few tryhards but they still pale to tourmament goers.
>>96662754Nagash. I always liked pre ET how he was a near mythically powerful being in the Old World. Fought against Sigmar, having supreme power over the Undead.He wasn't active after falling to the Skaven but his presence was felt. Hell, he even possesed Azhag, sort of.
>>96662907Well aware- but I would still expect some overlap (for example- an average player running Cathay at my local level is slightly harder to beat than a guy I know to be very good running Skaven.)Either way, if anyone has any suggestions for which mission would put me at the biggest disadvantage I would appreciate it. I occasionally get some good matches, but most of the time I just sort of shrug and apologize when their dragon melts in front of a bunch of buffed up Thunderers. Unless I stick like half my points in Warriors and Miners (which I tend to when playing new people or where I can tell they do not have a great way of dealing with getting blasted from across the board.)
>>96662782>anyone done it beforeNot to my knowledge, but even it someone had done it, you should still give it a try and take pictures and write a battle report for us. As for your second question, gunlines will always be effective no matter which mission you play. People will tell you shooting was nerfed going into TOW, and perhaps they're not wrong (though I would posit that gunlinefags have always had it too good), but it's still extremely powerful. Dwarf shooting is even worse since even the lowliest dwarf quarreller tends to also be very effective in close quarters. You might have a bit of a hard time with missions that are all about objectives... but let's not kid ourselves, just shoot, shoot, and shoot some more, then butcher the mangled remains of your opponent's army that actually manage to reach your battle line with the great weapons your dwarfs can all wield (with functionally no downside, as I1 is basically just as bad as I2), and you'll win. Hell, take a unit of rangers and you'll be able to take objectives, too, if you're careful. Now this all being said, it's not like gunlines are dominating the competitive meta. They're very much a casual obliterator type of list. If you want a challenge, go to a tournament.
>>96662754Archaon is painfully uninteresting to me, I couldn't bring myself to finish his shitass book. Malekith's "evil, punished King Arthur in Darth Vader armor" shtick is interesting and fun, but I hate that he jobs fucking constantly and somehow always gets outsmarted and played by his own retard dreadlords in books. Nagash is probably the best iteration of "extremely evil lich trying to ascend to godhood" I know of which is based, and he has a more narrow autistic focus which is more grounded and easier to follow than the thousand things Malekith has going on, so I'm going with him.
any spicy rumours up for the old world guys? any really new stuff?
I love 2e so fucking much bros
>>96662754Malekith because he's actually the setting's Big Good Good Guy
>>96662754Ratshitters get fucked you didn't even make it into the top 10
While we're on the topic of tournaments and army lists, where do people archive the "meta" competitive army lists these days? I'd like to see what a meta chaos list looks like, because people keep saying the warriors of chaos are broken and I'm not seeing it.
>>96663059I'd have gone with "Big Benevolent Good Guy" myself, but that's just me.
>>96663050nowe don't get rumors
>>96662927Off the top of my head, Heroic Last Stand is a great scenario to pork you. You have the defender who had to not be wiped out before turn 4 and the attacker surrounding them. Its in the main rulebook under the narrative section.
>>96663059>>96663094>Wage genocidal civil war against 2/3 of his own race>Clear connections to Chaos cults via his mother>Slave based state sustaining itself by raiding all around the worldHow exactly The Fried One is a "good guy"?
>>96663166Asuryan said so, so he is.
>>96663166deep lore and retroactive rationalisations
>>96662782Some White Dwarfs have Drunken Brawls mini games in them.Brewhash Brash is probably the most recent>https://www.thefluffenhammer.com/articles/DEEPBEER
>>96663208>>96663217I do not delve into End Times lore, did he at least had a Sasuke moment for several thousand years of civil war, countless dead elves and literal shattering of their kingdom?
I really gotta stop going to my LGS, Iâm gonna end up starting a Dwarf army when Iâm trying to save for ârumoredâ releases.
>>96663252No.Being terribly written would imply some writing was done.
>>96663270What i find humorous and ironic is that, despite competitively being an atrocious army, Dwarfs are among the most popular armies in TOW
>>96663352Isn't Empire popular too?Despite being both competitively weak and structurally blandly written?
>>96663252Not much, if im not mistaken before he goes into the flames again, while speaking with Teclis he says he would basically do it all over again, but i may be misremembering.He saves Alarielle from being crushed at end, Which is funny because both her and Tyrion are like "You stupid fuck, why would you do that, this changes nothing" while he is laying with his legs all broken waiting for the world to end.
>4 points>Light armor, shields, polearm that can be either a spear or halberd, horde, warband, shieldwall, two champions, stubborn at a price, use LD of any knight model within 6"Are Men-At-Arms the best value cheap infantry in the game or something? Its funny how much they come packed with when they're supposed to be the shitty peasant infantry in the army based around cavalry
>>96663394Popularity they're upper mid.From Oldworldrankings.com the most popular are:1. WoC2. Dwarfs3. Brets4. Orcd5. EmpireThis is from post 1.5 FAQ
>>96663436Its even funnier because they are barely used by most people
>>96663352Dwarves are very easy to like conceptually. And being little guys theyâre easy and quick to paint too.
>>96662782>second worst in the current metapost list>>96663352gyro spam list does well at tournaments
>>96663554>gyro spamOf course but, despite it being the tourney build, for now it seems the majority of Dorfs like using dorfs instead of vietnam recreations.
>>96663578sadly all other dwarf players at my local club are WAACfags. I just want to roll dice and enjoy my slayers
>>96663608Sad to hear. But hopefully the new Battle March rules for 500-750 can shake things.
>>96663436No, that would be Hobgobos. WS3 with shield and shortbows for 3 pts, can add light armor for 1pts.Assuming we don't count undead.
>>96663439Huh. Expected beastmen to be higher.
>>96663710Why? Beastmen have always been the red-headed stepchild of chaos.
>>96663710Beastmen are middle popularity. Not bad.
>>96662754I'd probably like Archaon more if he weren't subject to so much authorial favoritism. Note to GW: bad guys need to earn their victories just as much as good guys do.On a side note, is it just me, or is it hard to find fanart with all three of them together? That seems odd, considering they're the setting's three biggest villains.
>>96663785I'd take Archaon over Grimgor. Archaon at least had to go through trials and his mini Hercules adventure.Grimgor was just killy, always killy and is boring as fuck. That and he killed 90% of the old O&G characters which was so, so stupid and terrible way for them to go. Archaon at least didn't murder half his own roster.
>>96663710Beastmen were never popular except perhaps in a brief moment after their independence in 6th.The faction simply doesn't offer much that other factions (primarily warriors and orcs) don't do better.I believe the one way for beastmen to truly shine would be to break the monotony of their range: more mutations, more spawns, more animals other than goats.AoS had book writer who clearly loved goats and while he couldn't change the models, he added some crumbs of identity to the faction by giving them a philosophy that didn't make them feel like the discarded chaos shits they've always been, some mythological things to look up, and cemented a few key subfaction archetypes:>creepy shadowy ambushing niggas>bullish goresome trampling niggas>warped mutating spawnling niggas>conventionally god-branded niggasit's nothing extraordinarily different, but showing these 4 archetypes with models that make them strikingly expressing at a glance would make a huge differencetake skaven as an example, part of the success of the faction was specifically because it was allowed to branch out beyond the basic concept of a humanoid rat, skaven would he incredibly boring without ninjas, without tech, without monks and without frankenstein monstersand that's what beastmen currently are, in the state of skaven without any of those 4, just slaves, clanrats, stormvermin, and some random monster
>>96663439something aint right if dwarves are that popular
>>96663846I'd say they they have a better look than most armies, but otherwise agree with you. I just figured being a starter army they would have had a bigger boost.Give them back Raider. Make centigors count as regular infantry (maybe make them 25x50 too but that's minor). Change brayhorn to "Pick one unit, it is guaranteed to arrive this turn". Units that ambush can move but not charge at -1 movement. Woods don't block line of sight. GIVE BACK RAIDER, fuck!I'd also like them to be further detached from the chaos gods, but not chaos. It was one of the interesting parts about them. They don't worship them any more than any of the other races percentage wise. They're the red-headed step child of chaos, but they also are happy with that.
>>96663902>I'd also like them to be further detached from the chaos gods, but not chaos.To elaborate, I mean more things like Leering spirit or Scourge of the burdened. Make them a spell heavy race. Hell, I'd almost say remove banners from them and make them all some kind of unit wide mutation instead so they can't lose points for losing banners but can gain them from claiming. It's flavor at least, and fits their theming.
>>96663436>Are Men-At-Arms the best value cheap infantry in the game or something?One of, yes.Empire's State Troopers weep in the corner
>>96663959You know, it IS kind of fucked how with detachments becoming a universal mechanic, Empire were left with literally no unique special rules. They're the only army who don't have a page of them at all.
>>96663846What beastmen lack is a unit of mutants. People were and are dropping their mutated children in Rekwald or Drakwald forests and it's strange they didn't get them. I totally agree we need more types of beastmen - pigs, dogs, birds etc. And there should be werewolves with some special and interesting abilities like regeneration or immunity to normal weapons. In other words - make beastmen this close and familiar chaos, that lurks just outside the walls - not the distant chaos from Wastes the chaos warriors are.
>>96663998I mean even if detachment was universal it would change very little, empire would still suck
>>96663902I mean beastmen's lack of popularity isn't for lack of being good what with their army lists being 2nd, 9th, and 10th best performers.
>>96664085Oh I'm not suggesting they couldn't use nerfs. More of a flavor thing than balance thing. Cause yeah, wildherd is nutty strong. Even if it's just like a +2, +1, +3 pt per model cost on Gor, Ungor, and Centigors to give them Raider. Raider is just such a perfect keyword for how they want to play compared to all the other armies.
>>96663094Big Benevolent Ethical Guy
>>96663783>Beastmen are middle popularity. Not bad.Laughable copium. They're only a head of legacy armies with zero support and wood elves who got such a shitty AJ they might as well be legacy.
>>96663094You're right, I should have put more thought into it.
>>96663436>>96663687It USED to be Skaven Giant Rats, but then GW actually noticed that they'd made 2pt Empire Spearmen but even better, and remembered that they can't let Skaven in ToW be good because it would...somehow... effect sales of them in AoS!?!?
>>96664235They're essentially has popular as HE and they're only slightly behind TK who was one half of the starter box.
>>96663050Heard some talks about plastic chaos war mammoth and chaos dragon. Don't know how legit this is but it came from the same place aos typically gets their rumours and they're pretty on the money for them.
What are you guys' thoughts on giving a model a particular mark of chaos even if it's not painted to represent that mark? For example, a daemon prince with the mark of nurgle who isn't painted all green or converted to look nurgly, or a sorcerer with the mark of tzeentch who's been painted in the colours of chaos undivided. I personally think it's really lame, but given the state of marks in TOW I'm starting to think I should just get over it if I want to make my army list better.
>>96664369I wouldn't raise a fuss, but I do really prefer for there to be some kind of visual indicator, even if it's just a slip of paper that says "[UNIT NAME(S)]: Tzeentch" etc on the side.
What are the odds we get Kislev this Christmas season?
>>96664445no rumors about it yet, better luck next year
>>96664477RIP in pieces
>>96664347That's still the bottom half of the bottom half of supported armies.
>>96664599And Cathay is only lower cause people haven't built enough for tournaments yet. They will be more popular than beastmen for sure.
>>96663846>>96664044I would jump on the Beastmen train immediately if they got some more animal diversity and mutation representation. Making a plastic update of any of the resin monsters would also go a long way.
>>96664630I'm sure High Elves would be doing better if their battalion box wasn't just "oops all the shittiest 6e sculpts". Wood elves have the inverse problem their battalion has nice sculpts but James totally fucked up the AJ
>>96664044>What beastmen lack is a unit of mutants. People were and are dropping their mutated children in Rekwald or Drakwald forests and it's strange they didn't get them.I forget where they specifically mention this, but they are represented. Most of those children are either Ungors or noncombatants like females or runts. Ungors are mostly born just shitty, but the human mutants are there with them as well.
>>96662504I found this book from a charity shop today and realised it was in Italian :(
> listen to batreps at work/when bored> Mountain Miniatures is the worst> I literally downvoted every video> Keep getting given membershipsWhy does YouTube do this.
>>96664994Stop hating on Steve and Luca you absolute nigger faggot
>>96664844Ungors aren't those mutated children tho'. I mean, SURE - you can totally take a militia box, convert them and say they are ungors - but if I was GW, I would make a different mutant rabble entry and release a new box with many options (both mutations and weapons).
>>96665003> SteveFuck that obese faggot.> LucaWish that nigga would start his own channel. Fuck Steve fuck MWG
>>96664844>Most of those children are either Ungors or noncombatants like females or runts. Ungors are mostly born just shitty, but the human mutants are there with them as well.Not really Gavepsawn which are the abandoned kids are considered gifts from the Gods and are generally well treated and favored. It's turnskins, humans who mutate into beastmen later in life that are used, abused and treated like ungors. With true gors going so far as to rip any horns out they might grow to remind them of their place.
>>96664872So Allesio Cavatore apparently is not a fan of 4eGood
>>96665048>>96665148I had misremembered and i was thinking of turn skins and mixing in the children part.
>>96665148Can an ungor become a for in a similar manner of orcs getting bigger and better
>>96665361> ForFuck. gor.
>>96665361No. Orcs are getting bigger because of their unique physiology.Either you are born a gor - or you are unlucky and born ungor or exceptionally unlucky and be born as bray (no horns at all).
>>96665361No, they're more like goblins, basically stuck at the bottom rung forever.Pic not really related but still a bit relevant
Two days ago i painted the 1st grand cathay models I've ever seen painted.
>>96665675Very nice Anon, how did you do the metal on the shield?
People will hat me for saying this but tomb kings unironically need more centerpieces
>>96665717I don't hate you but I will take up arms if necessary to prevent your worldview from entering reality. Tomb Kings need new skeletons.
>>96665692Thank you. Base coat brass scorpion. Dry brush leadbelcher. Light wash of biel tan green
>>96665675CHANG CHONG CHING CHONG CHEE DONG looks great anon
>>96665124>>96665003>>96664994>Tomb Kings on the table>Steve bitching about them continuallyEvery damn game
>>96665717>more centerpiecesThey are like half centerpiece models already.
>>96665048I just don't think the population of general mutants that couldn't pass as an ungor but are otherwise still usable as infantry would be high enough for then to be fieldable. Even WoC does get them beyond forsaken which are mutations caused by too many gifts rather than the random kind.
>>96665675Looks like AoS shit... Why did they do with a Disney Mulan cartoon aesthetic?
>>96666204Unless morghur was around cause that was kind of his thing. But that would be a hyper special unit.
>>96665717I think they might need a heavy chariot but aside from that they just need their old models updated
>>96666204*doesn't get them
>>96663554Beginner Friendly:> Burlok Damminson, General - 85> Thane, Great weapon, Shield, Shieldbearers, 3x Rune of Fury - 201> Runesmith, Full plate armour, Shield - 70> Runesmith, Full plate armour, Shield - 70> Engineer, Handgun, Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni + Rune of Battle] - 188> Engineer Sapper, Great weapon, Handgun, Master Rune of Gromril, Rune of Stone - 132> 13 Thunderers, Shields, Expeditionary Marksmen, Veteran (champion) [Handgun], Full Command - 171> 14 Rangers, Crossbows, Throwing axes, Shields, Ol' Deadeye (champion) [Brace of pistols] - 193> 1 Scout Gyrocopters - 60> 16 Dwarf Warriors, Great weapons, Shields, Drilled, Veteran, Full Command - 207> Dwarf Cart - 65> 1 Scout Gyrocopters - 60> 22 Miners, Blasting Charges, Veteran, Prospector (champion) [Steam drill], Standard bearer [Rune of Battle], Full Command - 393> Cannon, Rune of Reloading - 105Less beginner friendly> Burlok Damminson, General - 85> Thane, Crossbow, Shield, Master Rune of Bursting Flame, Rune of Rapid Fire, Rune of Accuracy - 138> Thane, Great weapon, Shield, Shieldbearers, 3x Rune of Fury - 201> Runesmith, Full plate armour, Shield - 70> Runesmith, Full plate armour, Shield - 70> Engineer, Handgun, Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni + Rune of Battle] - 188> Engineer, Handgun, Rune of Concussive Force, Rune of Accuracy - 108> Engineer Sapper, Handgun - 78> 22 Thunderers, Shields, Expeditionary Marksmen, Veteran (champion) [Handgun], Full Command - 279> 20 Rangers, Crossbows, Throwing axes, Shields, Ol' Deadeye (champion) [Crossbow], Full Command - 278> Dwarf Cart - 65> 2 Scout Gyrocopters - 120> 2 Scout Gyrocopters - 120> Cannon - 100> Cannon - 100
Why does it seem like this physique is a requirement for playing at the LGS on Warhammer night?
>>96666405He was short of one baloon.
>>96666451i think that's just out of frame for the photo>>96666405you spend a lot fo time seating down painting models and eating bad food
>>96666405>oh no, i was there. He, and the other 4 cathay players had their 3 balloons.
Be honest... When you heard Warhammer Fantasy was returning, WA this what you had in mind?
>>96665003Umm does Steve know his supporters use the n word?Pretty gross, maybe I should let GW's community manager know???
>>96665930Steve is an obese fuck, Luca is cool.
How common are flaming attacks?Trying to figure out if blackshard armour is a waste by reason of it's use case being too niche
>>96666405I wish more nerds could see the benefits of spending even 30 minutes in the morning exercising, not eating like complete shit, and not staying up all night every night. Physically and socially. It also helps to offset the completely accurate "manchild playing with toys" impression
>>96666512>$160x3 = $480 per player just to field lanternIt's so funny how GW plays the paypiggies like a fiddle. A fool and his money are easily parted
>>96666512> Unpainted balloons> Unpainted balloons > Painted, 2/3 3d printsWhy does Cathay attract so much cancer?
>>96666553Post your fully painted army
>>96666553meta pick
>>96666574He's right tho', playing with unpainted armies kinda suck.
A glorious and bloody battle in a Mountain Pass, the Dwarfs ambushed Korgoth's horde in a 1500 battle.It was a catastrophe, a bolt thrower tearing apart half the chosen knights and being completely repelled by the Dwarven iron wall, only Korgoth and the standard Chosen remained. A very enjoyable game but I urgently need to improve my deployment. That said, Khorne was pleased!
>>96666703I agree. My point is that it's not "Cathay players," it's Warhammer players in general that don't paint their armies, thus why he is not able to provide a pic of one and neither can (You)
>>96666451Underrated
>>96666736Which army pic you want? I have (painted) O&G and Empire (I have many, many more armies, but unpainted, so I don't play with them).
>>96666574Sure anon. See the attached collage it took wandering around my hobby room.In no particular order> First tray of fully painted and based DE> Part of my fully painted ghouls (on converter trays for either TOW or AoS)> Small portion of Knight Household for AT (based) and possibly LI (I don't recommend)> Some of my heresy tanks (3.0 is sorta... Ok. But 2.0 wasn't really any better)> Some Trench Crusade (not as fun as the shills make it sound)> My multiple fully painted Fallout gangs (could you imagine only playing GW games? Real Yikes! Behavior)Ok now show YOUR fully painted shit you little bitch.
>>96666781Ok, let's say I''ll post this pic. The army is much bigger (and it's painted), but that should prove my point.
>>96666820nta but>complains about unpainted armies>paints contrast sloppottery
>>96666855I am not involved in these conversations in any way, and am not a great painter, but they look pretty good to me.
Complaining about contrasts in the rank and flank general is⌠quite unaware.
Post your spookiest models for October
I am going to buy a WoC battleforce and run 0 dragons and Chaos Warriors and you can't stop me.
>>96666820>literally only consooms Games Workshop⢠licensed products Clockwork
>>96666855Lmao no models bitch over here.>>96667022> Too stupid to read the TC and Fallout modelsLmao illiterate bitch Also where are your painted armies anons????? Surely you.... Don't just .... Talk shit???
>>96667052>Popular video game franchiseâ˘>Tranny Crusadeâ˘>Warhammer, Warhammer, more Warhammerâ˘
>>96666978You want to run zero chaos warriors? That's not very nice, anon, they're trying their best!
>>96667105Why are you even here? Denounce the Perry brothers right now.
>>96667123No.
>>96667122NO. I will run 0 chaos dragons. I will run at least 16 chaos warriors!
>>96667126>guy obviously just here to stir shit>perryfagEverytime
>>96666820Based ghoulchad btfoing perry
>>96666924B( . )( .)BS!
>>96667168why does he do it?
>>96667105Why do some people construct their whole persona around being as odious and unlikeable as is possible>Must use annoying images>Must use annoying parlance>Must hate everything>Must be combative towards every person
>>96666924Awooga
>>96664872"Il nemico dentro" translates more to "the enemy inside" than "the enemy within".GW used to have top notch translations, I remember using some of their army book during my master's, in my translation course, as an example of great translation of Italian from English.Then around 2014 you could see a sudden and steep decline in the quality of the translation (along editorial choices of not translating unit names and characters' titles).
>>96666531looking healthy didn't stop me from acting and feeling like a manchild
>>96666531Being fit is fun and rewarding, but it takes a degree of willpower and effort that most people are incapable of. Why try to succeed when it is so much easier to make excuses.
>>96666820Wrong thread buddy
>>96666531life sucks and the flesh is a prison
>>96667898This is right. If they can't take a few hours a year to paint their models, they aren't going to take a few hours every week to exercise.
>>96664994>>96665003>>96665124They're both obese faggot retards who cheat every single game. How neither of those retards has learned the fucking rules yet is beyond me.>>96665930Kek. I also got a kick out of the "nerfed" Bretonnia lists that Luca brought that were like 80% cavalry with all the usual WAAC magic items and Virtues, but they're totally nerfed bro no pegasi!>>96666522Luca's fat gnarled cheeto fingers typed this post.
>>96668272Sadly. Admittedly while I do a six day PPL and cardio, I still should try to spend a bit more time working on my minis and improving my painting.
>>96666405>morbidly obese slob wearing a t-shirt and little boy shorts>greytides WAACathayImajun moy shawk
>>96666820>duh I don't just play GWslop, I play Bethesdaslop too! *glork glork glork*Also you're bragging about contrastslopping and nuln oiling a base layer like a fag, and your shit's all retarded
>>96664994Tabletop Tactics is the best, but they've done like... 5 TOW videos. And even if they did make more TOW stuff, I'm not paying for their retard website.
Nearly done painting Cathay. Nerfs surely coming soon
>>96668290The fat guy from old world legends is better. His articulation is clearer and he is a jolly fat guy, not some neckbeard. If you're fat, you should at least be jolly.
>>96662572>Chamon
>>96666531Unfortunately I just can't stop fucking eating all the cake. I walk for miles every week, eat plenty of veggies but I need ice cream to motivate me.>>96666534It looks like the easiest thing in the world to scratchbuild from an actual lantern and some balsa wood... when WGA releases their Warring States Chinese it's ogre
>>96668730>If you're fat, you should at least be jolly.This is up there with "what happened to people with dyed hair being off the wall characters you could have a beer with?" Fat people should have a legal minimum of jollyness
>>96668730>WAACfag compjew channel for WAACfag compjews too stupid to WAAC on their ownAbsolutely fucking disgusting, how dare you recommend me this shit. At least the fat bastards at Mountain Miniatures are actually playing and uploading enjoyable games.
>>96668711nice dude. you have the only fully painted Cathay army on earth
>>96669174But I did not comment on that, I said that the fat guy on old world legends is jolly and articulates better than the fat guy on mountain miniatures.
>>96669238I'd have one if anyone fucking sold them. I can't even find dragon princes.
>>966638465 types of beastmen5 kits per type>SPAWNLINGS>swarm spawns>infantry spawns >monstrous infantry spawns >winged spawn>gigantic spawn >GREEK SHIT>harpies>satyrs>centaurs (feet of different kinds and modular heads for compatibility with other kits)>minotaurs (feet and heads of different kinds)>cyclops>MYSTERY MEAT>horned herds (rams, deers, antelopes, unicorn -men)>fanged packs (wolves, bears, tigers, baboon -men)>scaled stalks (lizards, snakes, birds, fish -men)>slimy crawls (arthropods, mollusks, -men)>exotic stomps (giraffe, elephant, rhino, warthog -men)>GODMARKED (always mixes of infantry and monstrous infantry model types in the same unit)>slaangors>khornogors >pestigors >tzaangors>bestigors>ANCIENT SHIT>fimir>trolls>shaggoth>dragon>baphomet
Cathay and high elf nerfs when? I was told rank and file infantry was to be good now
>>96669477Way too much shit, shove the other animal heads and stuff as bits into the 4 god-marked units and tone down the spawns from 5 kits to 3: infantry, ogre, monster
>>96667105> Le reddit > Doesn't post his shitBASIC ASS BITCHWE GOT A BASIC ASS BITCH HERE.Next you will tell me you don't even have your own hobby room in your 4000 sq ft house on an acre of land with an in ground pool!Go ahead, post your grey tide garbage you fag.
>>96667126> Le CONTRAST!!> Posts this shitLMAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I wish the empire of man had more fantasy stuff
>>96669766Are you willing to convert or engage in third party models to make that wish true?
>>96668290Luca would never trash talk the hand that feeds him.Brutal true nuke? Luca is too lazy/afraid to cut out on his own, he has been an hourly wage slave for now two channels for years. Literally neither would survive without him at this point neither.
>>96668384TT is shit. They can't be asked to learn the rules, Lawrence is too much of a salty bitch to play a game like TOW (his vampire on dragon got one shot by a peg lord? Shulked the rest of the game, never saw him again).TTTrannys is just a pure 40keks slop channel
>>96668711Cool shit. What's the other sentinel?
Sup manthings.
>>96669770I've thought about getting some halflings and some other random critters, but im rather creatively bankrupt for tying stuff together to make it conceptually cohesive. Well, for empire at least.
>>96669877Sup rat-filth, how are we gonna defile the old world today?
Finished my long beards last. By Grungni I wish I was a faster painter cause these guys took me a while. But hopefully I made my ancestors proud.I reckon I have more than 2K at this point but I just have a gyrocopter/gyrobomber and grudge thrower to finish and I'll have an army I'm satisfied with.
>>96663050A reliable leaker has hinted that we might get a new Norsca esque army with Mammoths and Fimir, but then the way he said it might also have been him saying the leak is bullshit.
Anyone tried the 500pt Square Based Foray? I was going to give it a shot with some new people next week.>>96667747Of course, I am a man in his 30s playing with dwarfs with no intention to get married or reproduce and only concerned with my career insofar as it can prevent homelessness in old age and facilitate said dwarfs. But when you're reasonably /fit/ by normy standards, I find most people assume you're a normal guy with a quirky hobby, and most women do not find you completely unfuckable until they learn the true extent of your autism.>>96668819It's not as good, but vanilla protein powder pancakes can taste like vanilla cake if done right. Still a ton of carbs, but might be a reasonable alternative.
oh, do people hate demigryphs because they're originally from the southlands?
>>96666512Ahaha holy shitThe sheer shamelessness of tourny players
official maps of the empire please.
>>96670292They are not from the southern lands, they are common griffins that for some reason (possibly chaos) did not grow wings.
So what does pic related contain? Empire and bretonnia?
>>96670292No? Many people hated them because they were something new and unasked for that stepped on the feet of other factions' unit types, had overpowered rules, and stole a release slot for a kit that could have instead updated a painfully outdated unit like the ancient knightly orders, the ugly state troopers and the beloved but weird proportioned free company. Which was pretty much a widespread symptom of the trends of many releases in 8th edition, which exacerbated every individual instance of this.Lore arguments against them are the usual inability or unwillingness to accept a retroactive inclusion of something as always having existed fluffwise, or the trivialisation of logistics and internal consistency regarding the rearing and taming of a large number of monstrous creatures, where otherwise griffins were a rare exception; especially when it comes to how such a widespread presence would have affected the knightly orders, since they fell for the error of saying demigryphs are kept by all orders, rather than isolating them as being used by just one or two.
>>96670592Looks like it, but the Banner is Eastlian in the lore
>>96670592blue and red is ugly
>>96670592In terms of models, yes. Although it's supposed to be a Border Prince army.Empire (red):>Captain>Amber Wizard>State-Troopers>Great Swordsmen>Missile Troopers>Imperial Ogres>MortarBretonnia (blue):>Men-at-arms >Knights of the Realm>Yeomen cav
>>96670025They look great! good job.
>>96670592The majority of these units would unironically look much better is you used historical proxies.
>>96670641>but the Banner is Eastlian in the loreThat is cool>>96670660I disagree>>96670699I see, i was hoping for some more exotic and non human units to cope with the lack of a dogs of war army, im still interested in the army nonetheless
>>96670803Considering the age some of those kits have its no wonder modern proxies look better
Why doesnât empire have foot knights?
>>96670851Because it has greatswords>but greatswords don't have full armorrulewise they do because modelwise they used totheir full armors got redesigned to add more landskenect flair with the plastic kit
>>96670887>greatswords >the swords are the size of regular long swords
>>96670900They're still pretty great though.
>>96670887Guy on the right looks like a pole dancer.
96670832Stop feeding perryfag. Perryfag is the cancer that is killing /wfb/Perryfag ignores the fact that many people actually use 3rd party minis - but most of them know their shit and buy DEDICATED sculpts/3D prints, unlike this faggot. Using dedicated for WFB minis is totally OK, using random historicals IS NOT. Fuck you.
>>96671140You frequent some weird pole dancers.
Real?
>>96671191Show some third party sculpts that aren't cheap knockoffs, overdesigned 3d models or coomer bait.
>>96671191>you're ONLY allowed to proxy with GW⢠styleŽ amateur Chinese knockoff CADslop 3d prints!!!! You CANNOT use expertly handcrafted miniatures that mirror the design philosophy of original Warhammer fantasy models!!!!Nurse!? He escaped again!
>>96671407looks believable, yeah
>>96671426You can ALWAYS buy excellent original miniatures.
>>96670803Nope.However, WGA conquistadors would look good to make an actual estalia army When will you el cheapo army men lovers understand that historicals have different proportions and look like shit next to heroic acale models
>>96670887Kinda wish state troops had more puffy sleeves and then greatswords were differentiated by being close to full plate
>>96671548I'd argue that the caveat is that their more realistic proportions make them look more of underdogs when they go against GW miniatures.
>>96671566I'd argue you need a trip to specsavers
>>96671548retard.kill yourself.
>>96671580If me, an Australian can afford actual GW stuff, so you the rest of you faggotsOr at least have the bare naked decency to use heroic scale stuffEverytime you do something weird like using historicals you make the game one more stepped removed from what Warhammer is, and eventually it loses the core joy of the thingSo in short, get a job you povo cunt
>>96671548DON'T. FEED. PERRYFAG. STARVE. PERRYFAG
did chaos ever use gunpowder? the only ones i can think off are the chaos dwarfs
>>96671624Chaos cultists in the Empire used black powder bombs to kill a town council in some WFRP adventure so that might count.
>>96671624Only as an option in Realms of Chaos.
>>96671548WGA conquistadors have realistically sized weapons and limbs. Not defending the hideous state troops we're currently stuck with but the WGA soldiers simply don't look like fantasy miniatures.
>>96671595Wow... look at that seethe
>>96671595Do you even realize that your little meltdown is far more satisfying to a shitposter than getting a (You)?
>>96671652>>96671679any models?
>>96672010Some of the Chaos Warbands in Mordheim had some like pic from the Carnival of Chaos Warband, but finding those is going to be a bit of a problem or a lot of money
>>96672010021911's flintlock, 021909's bolt gun, 021908's megaman hand could be gunpowder based if you want I guess.
>>96672067More specifically the Carnival minis had no hands then optional weapons. Circus Weapons 2 had a couple of pistols.
Is a pure goblin army viable? The models are charming.
>>96672150Side note, fuck the Nurgle Carnival of Chaos. They should have used the Tzeentch Carnival of Change from Warhammer Monthly
>>96671407Does feint and dodge continue on the next page or is this classic GW book quality?
>>96672183No idea, Iâve only seen this
>>96672175You going to storytime the rest of the strip anon?
>>96672175>>96672203
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>>96667126Based RVSSIA CHAD
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>>96669827In his defense, he was getting absolutely gaped that game. Ended up with his Black Knights with no magic attacks getting mulched by the Green Knight, his general dead by turn 2, and his Necromancer whiffing pretty much every attack with the Hand of Nagash, the game was over like 30 minutes in at that point. Every other batrep he's been in was fine.
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>>96672263decent little story, but I'm not sure why the Sigmarite priest thought the entire town needed to be razed unless the buildings themselves were corrupted somehow.
I need a justification for halflings being in lustria
>>96672295went with an expedition and either got lost or were the only survivors
>>96672295They're on a quest to locate Colonel Mootland Doughvid Samplers' 11 secret herbs and spices and must travel the world to do so.
>>96672336Lustrian fried Culchan?
>>96672347Yummy, naturally the skinks are upset that they're being eaten out of the favorite source of fancy feathers. It's going to get brutal.
>>96672289Everything could be tainted, certainly doesn't hurt.For the entire village to all choose to go even after the confrontation with the priest means either they were magically influenced or all lacking faith.
>>96672382Or people didn't want to attend an evening of self-flagellation in the Sigmarite chapel
>>96671548heroic scale models have different proportions and look like shit compared to modern GW and 3d printed models
>>96672162Yes, fanatics are crazy strong.
>>96672411Yeah ok Tzeentch
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>>96672411>all lacking faith
>>96672411Found the Chaos apologist
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>>96666553I don't have anything against the third one. At first glance they have better silhouettes than the official GW blobs. Anyone got links to the models? I'd like to see how they look in detail.
>>96672411This is the type of guy who says shit like >the chaos gods are misunderstood
Have two armies vampire counts and bretonnia. Polling to pick my third since I'm torn between five, chaos dwarfs, High elves, orcs&goblins, tomb kings, or chaos warriors.
>>96672475Proper spooky. I love that kit so much
>>96672646chaos warriors
>>96672646I also have Vampire Counts and Bretonnians, as well as Tomb Kings and Chorfs. Tomb Kings play pretty similarly to Vampire Counts, so I wouldn't suggest them. Chaos Dwarfs play really differently to the other armies you list, and there are great STL's out there so it can be a really cheap army to collect if you have access to a 3d printer. If not, Orcs and Goblins are always a good choice, even if I don't collect them myself (besides Black Orc/Hobgoblin mercenaries for my chorfs)
>>96671426I found these Claymore Casting miniatures to be a good match for the classic 4/5th ed version of bretonnians.They have dismounted knights, men-at-arms and other regular infantry.If you want to make them look really warhammer esque I bet you'd only need to add a skull or beastman head here and there.
>>96672702Man the gambeson/kettle helm look is so aesthetically pleasing. Almost makes me forget that those guys are dirty peasants
>>96672295>Charles Darwinâs early years as a student of Christâs College were not marked by great academic achievements. His first contribution to Cambridge life was the Glutton Club, which he formed with several friends. The sole purpose of this student society was to consume animal meat âbefore to unknown to the human palateâ. The club did not last long, and ended abruptly after an unpleasant experience with a brown owl carcass.>But Darwin wouldnât abandon his fascination with âstrange fleshâ, during his travels aboard on the HMS Beagle he purportedly ate armadillos and an unknown but large (20lbs/9kg) rodent, the latter of which he found particularly delicious, along other rare animals such as the Rhea.
>>96672436I was more interested in the "vanilla" goblins, wolf riders, wolf chariots etc
It hurts my autism that GW doesnât sell the older metal fanatic sculpts. I love the older more cartoony night goblins vs the newer sculpts but the fanatics stick out relative to the rank and file gobbos.
>>96673483Then you are shit out of luck.
>>96673483>>96673564Both the wolf riders and wolf chariots are great. Only the rank and file gobbos leave something to be desired.
