I AM A PIG AND I EAT SLOP Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96665667>TQWhat is your favorite flavor of slop and why?
For me it's Great Value Rising Crust Supreme Pizza and I play 5C Domain.
>>96671235I prefer multicolor commander slop (no BLACK, BLACK=evil) with really unique card mechanics. My favorite commander, non-BLACK Aragon, has such a great effect that really elegantly encompasses all 4 colors with a clear vision. Thank you, Maro for an amazing slop.
>>96671235Are you hyped for 2026,pig… I mean fellow Magic players?
>>TQI want my sets with a big side of sloppy legendaries, not a light sprinkle of relevant characters, I want the greasy, chunky, main course of legendaries. I want the footnote characters, and I want several versions of the same characters in different colours like a gastric reflux to re-taste the slop. Finally I want to see their diversy pronouns, it's the colorful cherry at the top of the greasy slop.
>>96671358Lets just say Klingons hanging around Uranus have existed in the MTG universe well before 2026
how has the community fallen enough for everyone to be crying in gen z social media buzzwords...
>>96671473youtube.com/watch?v=awXvRc6KqTY
>>96671449>klingons tongue uranusmy pigga
Squeal!!! Oh my science is that Marvel in Magic? Oink I can't wait to spend my disability check on a collector's box!
Hey guys new to Magic my favorite youtuber told me that “red deck wins” is the best beginner deck to learn the game with and standard is the beginner format can someone help me build a good deck for that please thanks in advance!!!
>>96671600It's actually the hardest deck to master
nooooo guys stop dehumanizing (me) people just because they are excited to buy epic mtg magic the gathering universes beyond bacon lair! You're just jealous! Stop crying! You are angry!The community has fallen! Oh my oinkers!
>>96671600modskill this poster
>>96671633The same people who want to eat the rich, smash the state, and crush capitalism are also the most offended by “porker” with the hard “r”.
>>96671600I would agree, RDW is easy to learn but hard to master. You can look up lists yourself, it'd be better than whatever anyone here shits out.
>>96671653Many such cases.
aren't you fags tired of pigposting yetfucking christ give it a rest
OINK OINK. I just bought a booster box for spider man!
>aren't you tired of having fun?of course hogmander players don't know fun
>>96671683I think we’re the first generation to be smarter than both the previous generation and the one coming after us.
>>96671684After years of>You missed the generalI am taking a weird sort of schadenfreude in the general being such a shit hole.
>>96671235I AM A PIG AND I EAT SLOP
Really though, why are they like this?
>>96671773You know how when you call a big guy Tiny he doesn’t blink, but when you call a short guy Tiny he’s ready to throw hands? People don’t like being called out for their obvious flaws. It’s why the “just let people have fun” line gets thrown all of the damn day.
>>96671773tiny dick energyhence he cut it off
>>96671798It's funny you say that because I know a really short guy and it's a running joke between us that he'll bite out ankles off if we call him short (he's not actually that short he's like 5'4)
>>96671683Seems like a lot of old magic players are pigs.
>>96671835You’re right, I needed to add the “confidence” clause and forgot about it in my blinding retard rage.
>>96671835>he's not actually that short he's like 5'4anon...
>>96671773because deep down theu know it to be true, even if they hide behind the "I'm standing up for everyone", they're only speaking up because they know it's about them
>>96671851I meant in terms of "not head level with my ankles while standing"
>>96671835that is literally 2.5 standard deviations below average male height that dude isnt a dude he’s a dwarf
>>96671600Since you're still getting used to the game, you should look into playing a deck called Amulet Titan in a format called Modern.
>>96671862Look making fun of paypiggies is one thing since that’s a choice but no one chooses to not meet sociotypical standards for height. Lay off on the derogatory remarks for individuals who have specific vertical needs.
>>96671871do NOT do this it creates mustard gas
>>96671857That's 163 cm, he's literally in the bottom 10% of all adult men worldwide.
>>96671886It’s more appropriate to note that he’s in the 9th percentile of unique men bound to catch women’s attention and spark a conversation.
>>96671862Okay Lebron sorry I didn't realize I was speaking to someone with ankles 5'3 off the ground.
>>96671897I'm not commenting on whether it's a good/bad thing. I know short dudes that own it, and short dudes that try to cope. All I'm saying is that it'd be accurate to call him pretty short. It's actually even lower than I remembered, he's in the bottom 2.5%.
>>96671707That's literally what they all think
>/mtg/ - Pigs and Height discussion
>>96671773>"Gaise gaise! I said the right thing™! pls give me good piggie points! like and subscribe! death to capitalism btw! like and follow tho!"Phony swines.
>>96671340why are none of the cavalry behind aragorn black or women?
People really are soft now.It's like anything remotely non-positive and non-validating of anyone's delusions is considered like saying the n-word
The best MTG player in the world can lose three times in a row due to brick hands and say goodbye to the championshipthis is proof mtg is not a skill based game
If card games were skill based, pigs couldn't buy the meta slop and play the game
>>96671773>More blatant dehumanisationBEHAVE LIKE A PIGGET CALLED A PIGSIMPLE AS
>>96671985>piggie pointsIs that the new system to get into Pro Tours?
>standardSLOP>extendedCalled standard now.>modernSLOP>legacySLOP>vintageSLOP>pauperOnly good format atm.
I am obsessed with this card but he isn't piggy enough
We failed to gatekeep the pigs.Now we must push them out the gates.It is the only way.
>>96672006Sounds like he should've manaweaved better. Skill issue.
>>96671999Real talk this is emergent behavior I see in a lot of awful games that have super enfranchised/addicted players.My most recent memory of this was Payday 3's release where you were considered Mega Hitler if you pointed out shit with the game you didn't like. People that felt a need to defend a multimillion-dollar corporation known for making massive blunders and shitty releases (your opinion, my choice) suddenly started looking really fucking stupid when it turned out that most people shared a negative opinion of PD3.Most famous example I would say though is Artifact because that game had people lining up to cocksuck Valve making what was probably the worst CCG of the last 20 years.
SLOP for the SLOP gods
>>96671773>Be better.The moral grandstanding is out of this fucking world. To have the arrogance and the gall to say shit like this, as if a little paypiggie devoted entirely to materialistic nerd cred via owning shiny cardboard depictions of their favorite slop franchise has ANY idea what virtue is.
>>96672043To what avail? So that we can occupy the dirty pig pen instead?
>>96672043>28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.>29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?>30 And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding.>31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.>32 And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.
>>96672046Never forget that multiple youtubers including that faggot Act Man shilled PD3 hard to their viewers and then vanished when it turned out to be shit.
>>96671999>now
>>96672056>To what avail? So that we can occupy the dirty pig pen instead?You must first occupy a land before you can rebuild what was once there.
>>96671993It's a designed-for-commander card, you can only run one copy of Singe.
>>96672085AYO WARE DA ELF WIMMIN AT?
>>96672046Fanboyism is either paid shills or actual autistic people.Like look, i like things, but i will be the first to criticize them if they fuck up, because i actually like them and want them to be better.People that make discussion impossible and outright attempt to censor any negativity, turning anything into hugboxes, only aid to rot whatever they pretend to like. That is assuming they're not actually doing it for nefarious reasons.It's insane how everywhere you go, if you attempt to have a technical discussion about a game's design, you'll instantly be swarmed by an horde of hogs just trying to get you to not say anything by either attributing to you some emotions like>you're mador trying to attribute to you the political beliefs that are seen as bad i.e.>you're a nazi>you are a --phobeor some shit like trying to cope in real time>you're trolling me, you lie, you ragebaitIt's like genuinely talking to children.
I am 100% sure WOTC is behind the slop posting in Twitter just to make UB haters look bad.
>>96672115Okay but we don't care about looking bad, because we'd rather be right while pigs think we look bad, than be pigs and eat slop.
>>96672093
>>96672078Reeling the metaphor back to reality for a second, do you really think WotC can do anything to regain trust short of purging the past 6 years of cards and meting out corporal punishment to most of the staff?
>>96672125>do you really think WotC can do anything to regain trust short of purging the past 6 years of cards and meting out corporal punishment to most of the staff?If they turned around and started making a quality product again, and also started fucking CURATING EVEN A SINGLE FUCKING FORMAT then maybe that might help.
>>96672121Bot post
>UB haters look badeveryone hates UBs to a degreeonly piggies, scalpers, resellers and outsiders would want to attribute this piggy stuff to """"anti-UB"""" peoplePeople that are willing to openly criticize shit don't care how "bad" it makes them lookPiggies on the other hoof, care a lot about how they're seen by others, hence they're losing their shit about being found out for the sus domesticus they are
>>96672115It's not actually offensive enough to be a deliberate strawman
Pig sloppers at the slop trough getting outed is the best thing to happen to magic discourse in at least the last 3 years
>>96672133All the formats are already tainted though. Modern Horizons and Spider-Man will be a stain on older formats forever. That's why I said nothing short of a full purge would be sufficient.
>>96672125all they had to do was keep ther promise and make UB not standard and only some sets moder legal and nobody would give a shit.......As a 60 card player you could pretty much ignore most of UB but that shit has sailed now
Fags getting butthurt about the pig thing is like retards instantly calling you a racist if you call someone a monkey for being stupid
>>96672153>>96672147>>96672121So now /mtg/ is infested with Indian spammers?At least learn basic English before coming here.
I will continue to SLOPposting and you can't stop me!
>>96672191>If people only ate some slop, maybe on the floor and not on the table, it would be fine, but now there's slop everywhere and I don't like that!Giving an inch years ago is while the miles are gone now
>learn basic englishbix nood my nugga fr on godNo matter how many boogeymen you try to conjure as a target; you will never not be a mud bathin', sweat stinkin', own shit eatin' swine.Also you're illiterate, but it don't be surprising me no mo'
i like this card
>>96672093magic: the gathering is literally unironically designed and "balanced" by the porn producers for bl*cked
>>96672220what is wrong with that ? commander would basically be the conainment space for all the slopeaters, you could call it a farm if you like
>>96672206Shills getting desperate lmao.
>>96672243We saw how that works. The pigs just multiply until they burst out of the pen and it becomes more profitable to serve the pigs than people.
Commander was good until they started designing cards for it specifically.You know, what's even stopping people from printing their own cards?Oh no, you can't enter official tournaments? I thought MTG was a game for everyone? Do we draw the line at poor people?
With ChatGPT I managed to implement several custom cards in Forge, maximum AI slop. I will have to find out how to add them to Adventure, but maybe they'll just appear, who knows.
>>96671773gamers art truely ye most oppressed kin...
>>96672287You know it is funny because Commander is a format that should be 100% proxy-friendly since there's no sanctioned events for it (and if they were a thing, they would suck balls). However the pi- players still try to argue that proxies are bad because card price is now a balancing factor.
>>96672287I never understood why EDH players were such paypigs in the first place. 60-card at least has the notion of competitive play to encourage you to own official cards, or at least higher end counterfeits. Meanwhile EDH is virtually all casual play and there's nothing stopping you from proxying everything except someone in your pod being a sperg about it.
>>96672327It's called "Bling" The more "Blinged out" your decks are, the better you are at playing EDH.
>>96672345Wouldn't it be more fun to play with cool custom art proxies?
>>96672310>>96672327Because as the old saying goes:>Misery desperately wants companyMost paypigs would feel butthurt if they paid for the cards but others don't and could play expensive cards, so they want you to pay as well.Personally, i buy cards for fun and to collect, but if someone had only proxies in their deck, how the fuck is it my problem?If the game's winner is decided by who has the most expensive cards, then it isn't a game worth taking seriously.
>>96672358Yes everyone agrees that cool proxies are better, but then turns around and paypiggies out at every chance.It's a pathetic group of people.
>>96671235We need a community run format that just excludes all UB cards. Call it Modern-Core
>>96672358shhhhhhif you convince EDHfags into being proxy friendly, the entirety of WOTC's business model would collapse
piggy
if the game was good and actually accessible that they reprinted strong stuff, people wouldn't think about proxying
>>96671340Shouldn't it be Unifier, not Uniter?
I never understood why wotc has a no reprint list.It's investors and speculators specifically making this game expensive as shit that it attracts scalpers and more investors trying to flip productI still remember 30th getting sold out in an hour and finding it on ebay at double the price.... for an official fake product.Jesus Christ man this game.
When if WotC going to buy all pig cards the same way they banned Crusade and "destroy all non-white creatures"?
I miss times when we had less slop
>>96672437Jodah called dibs
Fellow Peter Porkers ... are we being discriminated? It's supposed to be /our night/
>>96672458Would be funny if that happened.That means you could literally get them to ban all the cards with the right memetics.
>>96672458boarcreature - food
oink
>Arena concurrent players down 20% in a month>Spiderman sold zero (0) packs worldwide.Oh yeah, it's all coming together.
>>96672453>I never understood why wotc has a no reprint list.It made sense back them as a way to preserve price of cards, just look nowadays where they reprint random rares up to 10 times>It's investors and speculators specifically making this game expensive as shit that it attracts scalpers and more investors trying to flip productInvestors mostly pick old stuff or sealled shit>I still remember 30th getting soldIt was not, later they had product (and it was leaked that they artificially reduced stock during the sales)>>96672458Mass Calcify is still playable. Either way banning pigs because of meme would only show how weak they are, if things continue I bet they do a Shaman with the boar creature type.
>>96672495after it was pretty much confirmed that the game cheats, matchmaking is skewed and it's full of bots, i just uninstalled
>>96671773>be betterGOOOOOOOOOOOODSWHERE IS MY WIFE'S SON
Magic sloptubers saying things like>Let me make this clear: I mont not against universes beyond, and I think it can work. I think LOTR, for example...I am not. I am anti-universes beyond. Fuck universes beyond. Fuck spider-man but also fuck LOTR, fuck warhammer, fuck final fantasy, fuck all your "magic-adjacent enough!". fuck anything that isn't in-universe, original IP. If you buy it you are not human. You are a pig.
If you think about it, making a spiderman set priced like that, is the dumbest thing you could do as a companyMarvel/Spiderman is mostly aimed at kids.Parents won't buy cardboard for 10 bucks a pack.The product being expensive doesn't help, and adults who might be into capeshit might get a card of their favorite hero, but that's it. It's not the same audience like FF fujos who will take out a loan to pull 20 copies of their husbando cards.Players have UB fatigue anyway, and scalpers, stores/resellers won't buy product if they know they can't flip it.I mean, for fucks sake, Hasbro should know these things and their audiences for certain franchises.
not an mtg player. when is the official slopification year of MTG? these cross overs make it sound like Fortnite now.i remember cringing at black aragorn and the 40k crossovers.
>>96672597>when is the official slopification year of MTG?Many arguable points.Transformers/Godzilla cards being added to packs was a big one. And earlier than that, the latest absolutely certain point was 2020, when UB Walking Dead was introduced mechanically unique UB cards.Basically it's just been an endless shit spew of slop for years now.
>>966725971993
>>96672588>you are not human. You are a pig.Elaborate.
... I want more SLOP!
I am also recently new player and i find it a shame that the game is more about Slopverses Beyond than actual in-universe stuff.I liked NEO. I thought it was a really good set mechanically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW7pXZfiw0oyou now remember this guy
why don't recessions and economic crises ever affect african fertility?
>>96672458Cleanse was actually "destroy all black creatures."
>sloptuber now parrots what the community wants to hearoh my god fuck these pigs man
>>96672700>Slurp slurp slurpI AM A PIG AND I EAT SLOP
How are you doing fellow slop enjoyers? OINK!
>>96672465Soon:>Return to Return to Alara Reborn Renaissance
I AM A PIG AND I'M EATING THE SLOPEATTY EATTY SLOPEATTY EATTY SLOP
>>96672628>google MTG Crossovers>Walking Dead in 2020>secret lair comes up>"Black is Magic (2021)"kek, people should have been cutting their awhile ago.how are any you still still buying these cards?
>>96672733YUM YUM YUM
>>96671773They/them is right though, first you're calling people pigs, then before you know it, boom, genocide of magic players. Mark my words
Absolutely Haram
>>96672748Magic the Gestapoing would be pretty based
>>96672597>>96672628May 3, 2019.
Realpokemoki did nothing wrong
>>96672748>Mark my wordsWhat did he say about them?
>>96672748>boom, genocide of magic playersAnd that's a good thing
>>96672680>there are a lot of pigs who eat slop so slop is okay as long as there isn't too much of it
Fuck the sloppification of this game!
As a Jewish MTG player I am utterly apalled by the language and rethoric being used right now
>>96672748>then before you know it, boom, genocide of magic playersIF ONLY
>>96672680>TOTAL ALCHEMY DEATHbased kibler
>>96672795someone will see goblins and think this is anti semitici wish to be one of those goblins
>>96672801dude magic: the gathering is literally made by negro supremacist ham*s members, wizards of the coast would put jon finkel in a camp if they could
>>96672680Even the biggest figures of MTG are talking about UB problems and how shitty it is. Will the fucking JOTC wake up and do something? Because things are reaching a point where maybe we will be unable to go back.
why do people talk about dehumanization as though a genocide would break out over peoples' mtg preferencesridiculous
>>96672889Do you know of the detective in the room of suspects?
>>96672889that's what happens when you let progressives take over everything
>>96672860They're talking about it to farm clicks, Anon.Anything they say is shallow and only done for their own self gain.They're intellectual slop.
>>96672801I AM OUT OF SLOP. DUMP MORE INTO MY TROUGH NOW MARO.
Format diversity is one of the worst metrics for determining if a format is healthy. Lacking diversity is a sign of an unhealthy format, but featuring it does not mean the format is good.
Remember!They're not "UB sets"They're commercial breaks
>>96673028i saw that comment on yt
>>96672889just getting a dose of their own medicine after cancelling people and trying to dehumanize artists
This card is pretty fun in Pioneer
>>96673038Being a piggy and eating slop includes low effort crossposting.
>>96673000>lacking diversity is a sign of an unhealthy formatCHECKMATED CHUDS. That just means it's time to import indians to make even more slop!
>>96673051>in Pioneer
Stop calling mtg/commander players of pigs! It is dehumanizing pigs :(
>>96672756as a non mtg and non slop enjoyer, i can't tell if this is the slopification of the rules or if the art is a reference i'm also not understanding
>>96673077Technically it would be de-swinenizing.
>click on Filter and post hiding>"pig">"slop" Much better
>>96673111Oink oink oink!
>>96673111Coward of a Hog.
>hehe i am le filtering haha checkmateyou're only reinforcing the meme of branding the modern audience as weak cattle
>>96673063What? You prefer Vivi the format or Degeneration/Horizons block format? Sad for you mate.
>>96673138Pioneer isn't a format anon. It doesn't exist.
>>96673111kono BUTA
>>96673111>He whines about swinespretty cringe honestly
>>96673140For you maybe, for me is more existent than seeing Cauldrons or Belchers all day lmao
Little piggy got upset
coincidentally, this was also absolute slopperyfrom the story to the animation itselfreminds me so much of this game
Pig Slօp
>>96673148Endless mice isn't really a step up
Anyone else find it weird that very few people ever bring up DnD when it comes to UB, and when they do it's almost always praised? I always thought it was one of the most obnoxious sets they've ever printed.
How much slop can this company generate to appease the pigs? Is enough if the lines goes up despite turning the game into a fucking pig farm? And yes im talking about actual human beings and dehumanizing them as they deserve don’t fucking care.
Those alike sows feed on filth and decay.
they could easily fix a lot of the game by doing erratas like other games doIt's not like they would need to reprint the cards either, and if they did they could use the opportunity to make new alt artworks For a company that loves money like a rabbi loves foreskin, they sure leave a lot of it on the table
>>96673218If that were the mea i would agree but if something good comes from the lack of “grinders” polluting a format is that it opens such formats to more decks than 2 or 2
>>96673111YOUR DADDY SCREAMED REAL GOOD BEFORE HE DIED
>>96673229i thought about saying something about forgotten realms, but it's "technically" not UB since wotc owns it and retards would attempt to use it to ridicule any sort of criticism.Dungeon was cringe and class cards still go for a lot for a copy.
>>96673238>ErrataThat would be admit a mistake anon, they do that until is too late.See Nadu case they DESIGNED the card for CUMMANDER specifically, they knew was too weak and then pushed such card to the level of ruin Modern, they could easily solve the problem but they waited for Nadu to completely crush a competitive event to come and admit “achtually was a design mistake caused by Cummander focused work” this is the level of WotC
>>96673238they have higher priories
>>96673272GIVE ME THAT/THEY SLOPGIVE ME TO ME OOOOOOOOOOOINK
>>96673282>blatant "WE WUZ" cardkek, did you get your "lazy nigga' foil?idk how WotC got away with these
>>96673229Still a Fantasy set, sets like LotR, FF...... can fit into mtg without clashing too hard with the core style spiderman in the magical plane of new york does not work out
>>96673267this, is the same situation with current standard, they know vivi is a shit design, we all knew since the first moment vivi was a shit design, they made a seven ban wave but they banned vivi? noooo they will do it after squeezing almost the last single penny they could and that’s why until november standard is an unplayable format and who knows if after with atla around the corner… all for the fucking money.
>>96672889woketards tend to be histrionic faggots
>>96673308UB is NEVER acceptable. N E V E R.
>>96673262>it's "technically" not UB since wotc owns it and retards would attempt to use it to ridicule any sort of criticism.Once again, I despise how conversations about culture and hobbies are ruled by the lowest common denominator.>Dungeon was cringe and class cards still go for a lot for a copy.I thought classes were cool, at least until they started making prowess tokens on etb.
>>96673307how is NOT a caricature holy shit
>>96673272worst character wizards ever made. actively detracted from the setting on several occasions and adds nothing. Coldsteel the Hedgehog of mtg.
>>96673307is this a juicewrld tribute
>>96673337>>96673360reminder that MTG is still a fantasy setting :^)
>>96673051I'm waiting for the price to drop on MTGO, can't wait to pair it with this.
For Anons that actually want to discuss the game what should we discuss?
>>96673084It was WotC trying to cash in on the Avengers: Endgame craze by making their own Avengers Endgame. Except the set was atrociously-designed to the point it caused a large volume of players to quit, and the writing was so horrible it got aborted and retconned.
>>96673332>Once again, I despise how conversations about culture and hobbies are ruled by the lowest common denominator.You're preaching to the choir here.I just tried to explain to you why people don't see dnd set as UB. I also found it rather high power. I absolutely despise siphon insight.I like the class cards as well, They're strong and can snowball easily, hence why i think they should have been legendary enchants.
>>96673390The game? You mean Slop: The Piggying? We are discussing that actually anon.
>>96673396yikesthanks for the qrd
>>96673390I AM A PIG AND I EAT SLOP
>>96673396Wasn't the general reception of WAR's design broadly good? I'm pretty sure it was the set immediately after that fucked shit up, design-wise.
>>96673390there's no game left and nothing to discuss, that's why the general is the way it is
You know, it's kinda weird that they never put planeswalkers in UB sets. Remember how they had those not-planeswalker planeswalkers in AFR? What happened to that concept?
I think if they start printing UB pw, everyone will lose their shit since everyone hates pws; old players and new ones alike.
When this gone this downhill? What was the last straw that made people this angry?
>>96673396It was also the only successful set on the same plane as the previous one.
>>96673419A competitive player posted some long rant about Commander and called people slop-eating pigs and now discourse can never be normal.
>>96673390is the walking dead set anygood?
>>96673406no, anyone with taste and a brain hated WAR. the three mana walkers were disgusting, and none of the cards are memorable and fun. it was clear they were taking a shit on everything that had come before in order to build something new.
>>96673410They consider the D&D Planeswalkers a mistake, apparently, and generally wanna keep those to in-Magic sets because they're a Magic term to begin with, it's awkward to use them for non-Magic stuff. Even the few UB things where it could apply (like Gilgamesh for example or presumably Doctor Strange) won't be Planeswalkers because they're not 'Magic Planeswalkers', they're just people who can do dimensional travel.
>>966734191999, when they officially gave up on in universe lore.
>>96673084I think anon is claiming it's an "endgame" reference. Personally I think it's funny that bolas' endgame is at least two more cards and two more soldiers for 6cmc
what if JOTC made commander rotate. imagine the short term seethe like Lorcana is experiencing right now.
>>96673440>It's bad because I say so
>>96673419It's mostly done by discord teenagers Most guys i play pauper magic are older than 35, nobody has time to spam memes on social media, not even here
>>96673419>>96671358
>>96673390UB (Which now means Universes Beyond, not blue/black)
>>96673449It's called Brawl and nobody played it.
>>96673423Because it had the, up until then, biggest marketing push of any MtG set in history.
>>96673390>For Anons that actually want to discuss the game what should we discuss?Who cares. Nothing is worth discussing. The game is a trash heap in a sunscorched wasteland.
>>96673453Also, you know, the cards that warped every format.
>>96673410They are currently off-limits for Universe Beyond sets. But also means more Planeswalker will be added to In-Universe to offset Universe Beyond.
>>96673419The reason it's boiling over right now is because they announced next year will have even more UB right on the heels of the Spider-Man UB being a big flop. But you can trace the seeds back to the start of the FIRE era in 2019 and the Walking Dead Secret Lair back in 2020. They've broken literally every promise they had made in response to the backlash against Walking Dead.
>>96673453as opposed to>>96673406>I think I heard somebody else say it's goodat least I said something of my own
The 40k Warhammer set was based tho
>>96673449insane how every tcg ever is so mismanaged and badly designed as if they're just thinking of printing pretty pictures on card board and expect people to pig out on it like the most boring and mind numbing but insanely profitable tcg does
>>96673419A reddit Mod pinned an out of context screenshot riling up Universe Beyond hate despite breaking the rules.
>>96673307god of the vatican is the negro
>>96673423>It was also the only successful set on the same plane as the previous one.>Blocks began anew in late Autumn.>Which means the Large Set in any given block was timed to release for Christmas.>Also, drafts always included at least one large set pack, while after a full block's final release the final draft environment only included one pack from the latest set.How much longer will they continue this lie to justify scrapping blocks?Everybody knows scrapping blocks was a bad idea. And yet they continue to trot out the justification of "muh sales" as if holiday timing and draft, NOT BLOCKS THEMSELVES, contributed more to the success of large sets than anything else.We know they are lying. They know we know they are lying. We know they know we know they are lying. And yet they continue to lie.
>>96673406Mixed bag. Amass was panned and the excessive amount of planeswalkers wasn't great for draft. On top of that there were some absolutely cancerous cards like Karn TGC and T3feri.
>>96673479>The Dr.Who set was based thoFtfy mate no need to thank me
>>96673490>pig spammers came from RedditImagine my shock
Oink oink piggies! Keep buying that slop!
>>96673491are there enough of these cards to make an "afrikan Qweens" deck?
>>96673477>They've broken literally every promiseWoah there lad, let's not lie about things now!Not only have they broken every promise they made, they've ALSO broken every design rule, the color pie, every single format multiple times, The list goes on, it's not just promises lad.
>>96673523It's okay, they won't break the promise of the reserved list to do something outlandish like make Legacy affordable.
>>96673441>>96673475What an arbitrary limitation on their own design space. I don't recall much uproar about the AFR planeswalkers and they're already whoring the game out anyway, so it's weird that they'd take such a firm stance.
>>96673533>It's okay, they won't break the promise of the reserved listmagic 30 : )
>>96673432From a Mechanical perspective only Negan was actually good but it mostly got played out of protest to have Wotc reprint the Secret Lair.Flavorwise it only capture the first season's characterization and they had to restrict themselves to only use evergreen keywords.
>>96673461>>96673475>currently
this game has never been so cooked frendos…
The Avatar set looks SOULFUL in my opinion, it will probably be the last time I buy a box Everything else in 2026 looks like hot garbage
>>96673547Weaseled out of it by making them all not legally playable. Unlike the "No UB in Standard" promise.
>>96673555He's gotten smarter with his lies. Previously he just made promises, now he uses weasel words so he has outs when they inevitably go back on what he said.
>>96673549>mostly got played out of protestare there any instances of this? sounds like a red flag
if my customer base was a bunch of lunatics who get mad and try to cancel someone's dog at any ounce of non-positive vibes, i'd use weasel words as well just to get their autistic schizo crossdressing discord moderating asses to shut the fuck up.But on the other hand, i wouldn't try to sell my shit to animals like that in the first place.
>>96673475You know the worst part is I think this is unironically solely because planeswalkers aren't allowed to be your commander and pigs would bitch about their slop not being available.
>>96673602Talked like a true Piggy, faggot, that Slop will keep coming for pigs like you!
>>96673461The Universe Beyond property I want to return to Is WarHammer 40,000. I had a crackpipe theory that Games Workshop introduced the Goddess T'au'va so that the universe could work as Magic set. It is a a 5th god so it could be part of a cycle with the 4 chaos gods and the T'au and its empire could have more focus to fit more green into the set.
>>96673621Retard.The lunatics are the pigs.
>>96673539it's to their own benefit. planeswalkers were starting to get a lot of player hate and have repetitive designs. they had already stated an intention to make fewer of them, and keeping them out of UB helps with that. it also lets them claim there is some original magic flavor left in the hat sets.
>>96671773>dehumanizationm8 read the room
>>96673636Personally I can't wait until we see more exciting slop like "3 mana walker where every ability is good and trades up against removal"
>>96672597October 25th 2024 is when WotC announced it was terminal. That's they date they announced that you could no longer opt out.
>"Hey Ashley there's a guy over there calling you pig and making piggy noises">"Anyway I drop a plains and cast Tidus, Yuna's Guardian"
>>96673644We just need a small retread of existing design space.
>>96671473>middle age manchildren seething at the words and art on their children's playing card game rage impotently about it by larping as under 25 year olds onlineThe community is really fucking grim atm.
>>96673647If only mtg girls looked like her.That’s a man. 100% a man.I have never seen a girl playing this shit above a solid 2 not even in Cummander casual tables.
UB is so bad that I unironically started play flesh and blood.
>>96673666>looks like Michael Cera in a wig>adam's appleyou may be on to something
>>96673671UB is so bad I unironically came back to YuGiOh a game that at least has some self respect.
>>96671473desu a lot of people my age are starting familiesI don't get to shitpost or even play mtg as much as I would like, I basically get to do one fun thing a week and while there isn't snow on the ground it's going to be disc golf. I'm sure im not the only one in a situation similar to this. tldr millennials got lives and mtg is expendable
>>96671999>>96672046An unfortunate part of this is that the in-group/out-group lumping people do means that the more cynical people are generally considered more politically regressive. In the same way everyone here imagines a blue haired pronoun wagon (despite most slop eaters being fat guys in Hawaiian shirts), a lot of people imagine the cynic who’s critical of a game’s faults as the type of guy who rings a bell anytime a black guy is on tv.
>>96673647>"noooo stop calling people pigs LOOK WE HAVE WAHMEN!">no armorDon't care.
>>96673666Even if every girls in the universe that plays MTG looks like a 10/10 and smells like a flowers and were super nice to everyone and compliment every game action you do you still wouldn't had a chance because they are in the store to play the game and not take out your 20 years old virginity you pathetic delusional fatso
>>96673713>a lot of people imagine the cynic who’s critical of a game’s faults as the type of guy who rings a bell anytime a black guy is on tv.wait.. you guys don't count all the black people on tv?What the fuck are you doing with your lives?
>>96673471I still care.(I hope it wasn't a rhetorical question.) I still want to discuss Lorwyn and how the color pairs were distributed. Since there will only be a focus on 5 tribes and color pairs the others will have the mechanical glue to fit the tribes together.My speculation for the non-tribal colors are:UB: Flash (Since it is fairy's main colors and mechanic plus it could fit the Shadowmoor Merrows)RG: High something (It could power or Mana value but I believe most giants will be here.)WB: Elemental Sacrifice (Since evoke is returning a lot of elementals are going to sacrifice themselves.)RW: Aggro (Some dwarves might show up)GU: Triggering Etb effects (It will focus on casting Elementals for their non evoke cost.)
>>96673729I have one of those clickers traffic monitors and museum stewards have to monitor cars and visitors just for this purpose. A bell is too gauche.
>>96673739I prefer the way it's meant to be; pen and paper. It's also easier to keep track of.
>>96673559YES MORE SLOPOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIINK
>>96673724What a way to project “faggot” or sis? I just said every girl playing this is ugly, a fact, not that i search in this fucking game tables, specially surrounded by smelly actual fatsos like you.
>>96673729I really don’t care about the race politics of mass culture garbage, but I started singing a dumb parody of good people by Jack Johnson when I see people talk about it that goes>where’d all the white people gooooo>I keep changin’ channels I don’t see them on the TV shows
If you had to say this is the UB that is too much to me which UB would that be?
porn addict really attempting to come off as a woman by calling others fat virgins.No wonder this game has gone to the pigs with a player base like this.
>>96673754Post your face then, handsome
>>96673763None! I am a pig and I eat slop!
>>96673776After you, Gollum
>>96673671does it have instants?
>>96673763Unironically FF.Mind you, i like FF to an extent, but most cards were just too much.Jumbo was a premonition of what the set was going to be like; Vivi was the final nail.
>>96673763Teenage Mutant Ninja TurtlesI don’t know who the hell thought that was a good idea but i would rather have a whole set from SpongeBob (not better that would make me quit too) than that abortion.
>>96673763Walking Dead. Deep down we all knew this was where it would bring us, despite all of their false promises.
>>96673733Consulting the Creative Bankruptcy Tracker and adapting it for what we know about Lorwyn as a plane, I predict:>WUGeneric Tempo.>UBFaeries aka FlashFlying Control.>BRGeneric Goblins aggro.>RG4+ something. Power, CMC, who cares. Either that or generic stompy.>GWSome token spam thing probably.>WBSacrifice is a good bet. Some lame ass life gain synergy is the other option.>BGIt's going to be either Food, or Graveyard synergies.>GUGeneric ramp. Likely sold as "Evoke" ie casting the creature side of evoke creatures.>UR"Second Spell each turn" or just instant/sorceries more generically>RWGeneric Aggro.
>>96673763Already happened, anon. I saw this card and i already made up my mind:”This game is cooked”
>>96673763>If you had to say this is the UB that is too much to me which UB would that be?Hot Dog Cart was definitely the "Man who thought he had lost all hope loses last additional bit of hope he didn't even know he still had." point for me.
>>96671235>Some retard makes a giant post about hating commander>Morons incorrectly assume it is about recent sets instead>Begin spamming meme everywhere in the entirely wrong contextSausuga
>>96673666>thick hair>clear skin>normal handsfix your gaydar that’s 0% a man.
>>96673825OINK OINK OINK KEEP EATING THAT SLOP!!!
>>96673825>Morons incorrectly assumeWRONG.The post touched on wider sentiment than the original writer intended. Thus, it is become meme.
>>96673583Most of its victories were by one person forcing Negan Human tribal.
>>96673825SOUUUUUIEEEEEEEEEEE COME GET YER SLOP, PIGGIE!
>>96673825That post struck more nerves than the last decade of WotC Cummander focused designs lol you can find everyday a bunch of faggots like this one trying to minimize or deflect the problems that the pro was referring to and get mad over “pig” word lol
>>96673763The trifecta of Warhammer, fallout and ass creed killed UB for me. MTG is mostly fun because it forces you to adapt. I could have rolled with the punches but these three sets made it obvious that the thing that attracted me to MTG is no longer present or at very least very diluted.
>>96673787yeah idk how they work though I just bought some intro packs and played a few games with the wife
>>96673825>poster threw insult on the ground>UB slop slurpers pick it up assuming its about them and get assmadto me it looks like they delivered the insult to themselves without assistance
>some retard just shares his feelings>happens to articulate what many magic the gathering players are feeling but are obviously afraid to speak out>weak nut milk slurpers start seething into oblivion because they have been called out>people with an actual sense of humor make it a memeimagine instead of weeds, its pigs
>>96673813WU is Merfolk tribalGW is Kithkin tribalBG is Elf tribalUR is Element tribal probably the MV +4 mechanic with casting non evoked Elementals.
>>96673899>"What are you complaining about? There's tons of plants in your garden!">But I don't want weeds in my garden.>"Your garden is flourishing! Look at all the plants!"
>>96673825First day living in society, anon? "Woke" used to be a word used by black activists to describe someone who wasn't a sheep, now it's a pejorative used by their detractors. "Incel" was coined by a woman who wanted a term to describe herself, now it's predominantly used to describe men regardless of if they're celibate or not. It's not even a modern thing. "Nimrod" was the name of a great king and hunter in the Bible, but a single line in a single episode of Looney Tunes made people think it meant someone was stupid, because people didn't pick up on the sarcasm and nobody actually reads the Bible.
The solution is clear as dayLet's all play Premodern
>>96673920Some people prefer the weeds, you know.
>>96673953I am a bug and I eat weeds.
>>96673920Dandelions are actually delicious as fritters and they're an abundant weed.
>Pigs get mad when called “pigs” >Finally someone refers to UB and Coomander rightfully as “slop”>The bunch of drones and blind retarded slop eaters start trying to defend themselves as being “dehumanized” and messing with their fun and rightful way to enjoy this “game” (aka mindless buy whatever turd they get)We need more people like Mr. White just for the fact he is actually pointing at the rotten core of this community even if the majority without fear and telling them “you pigs” like they deserve.
>>96673920Horrible metaphor. Weeds have no biology definition, it's literally just a plant growing somewhere you don't want it to. Dandelions are a big example, they're sometimes grown for food. Bamboo is another. A forest could be considered an abundance of weeds. You could have the scenario you made up and neither person is in the wrong there.
People are entitled to buy whatever they want. Anyone saying otherwise is being deliberately dishonest and against free market.
>>96673825>SausugaStopped reading there.
>>96673920>weeds are plants toowhy can't you appreciate the diverse ecosystem >someone from[X] would love those "wweds">have you considered that some people prefer different plants
>>96674019sure, piggy, you can buy a shiny shit and eat it, but don’t expect me to not call you a retarded piggy, i’m entitled to my opinion too, free speech.
>>96673939I fucking wish people near me did
>>96673372At least Teferi is one of OG magic characters, he gets a pass.
>>96674022of course you did, that's the end of the fucking post
>>96673978Yeah these people don't know shit about weeds.
>>96673953>>96673962this general, man
>>96673763Spider-man was it for me as far as sets are concerned.Walking Dead was an insane move for their very first foray in the first place.
Ravinica to Theros was the golden age of MtG
TAKE ME BACK!!TAKE ME BACK WHEN I CAN DISCUSS MTG AT THIS GENERAL!!!!BAAACK BEFORE UB AND PIGS!!!!!
>>96673825The guy said it’s about commander/casual appeal, which he said includes UB
Imagine being in this cesspool and calling other people pigs.
>>96674080OINK OINK PIGGY COME GET YER SLOP
>>96673419>>96674074I'm willing to talk. What do you wish to discuss?
>>96671773The funniest thing is he was complaining about Wizards catering to Commander. No one can even bother to read these days
my friend supported the "free market" by purchasing 2 fucking SM collector boxes for 1k each
>>96674097what if I told you that the analogy can be applied to many things?
>>96674060I know I don't want them in my garden.
>>96674104Yes but the complaint from so many people is "Just because I enjoy UB doesn't mean I'm a pig" but that's literally not who he's insulting
>>96674097>Wizards catering to Commanderliterally the death knell of this format
>>96674111Yes, literally every time Wizards starts printing things for a specific format it dies. I was shouting this from the rooftops back in like 2011 but now at last they truly see
>>96674143>Wizards starts printing things for a specific format>back in like 2011what precedent did you have for this in 2011?
>YOU ARE A PIG SLOP PIGGY PIGGY STOP BUYING SL-ACK
>>96674143Thank goodness Wotc no longer prints cards for standard.
>>96674157Wizards printing cards for Modern
>>96674177Wow revenue that's cool dude now when are you going to curate your formats and make a game that doesn't fucking suck ass?
>>96674185in what context? was JTMS seen as a "for modern" card or something?
>>96674180
I'm a Sus scrofa domesticus and I like to eat dirt and mud!
>>966741572011 was the year the first Commander decks were released including 51 new cards. The release was literally called "Commander" like it might be the only one. We were not so lucky.
>>96674185wait was modern even a format in 2011?
>>96674240yeah no shit, anon was acting like there was a precedent for printing cards for other formats though and I just don't see evidence for that.
>>96674240>terrible art>quip flavor textSlop
>>96674240Untill like 2018 the anual commander decks were not a problem (unless you played legacy).It derailed when they started to do commander booster sets and later commander decks for standard releases.
>>96674195>>96674242I'm probably remembering the wrong year but there was definitely a time when it felt like they were printing chase rares explicitly for formats outside of standard like Snapcaster or Deathrite Shaman or Karn
you all give pigs bad name.
>>96674177granted, lotr and ff have huge broad fanbases all across the world which pig out on shit like there is no tomorrow.It would have genuinely been a surprise if they didn't sell.
>>96674265>Snapcasterisnt that one of the tournament winner designed cards?
>>96674242yes, Modern was created and featured at a pro tour in 2011. thankfully they didn't print directly to Modern until 2019 but when they did the set was terminal for both Modern and Magic.>>96674247now Commander is the only format they print cards for
>>96674316yes it is, but the design team still gets final say and decides the power level. see pic relatednta btw
>>96674192...but anon, think of the revenue!
New thread>>96674468>>96674468>>96674468
>>96674265Snapcaster was made when modern was not even a proper format, Deathrite Shaman was mostly a legacy card. K4rn was armed for Modern.The problem is not making pushed cards for other 60 cards formats, those most of times have a clear role of what they are meant to do and were pretty clear designs.With "commander design" the game passed from having clear designs that are meant to work withing a theme spread across sets to have lots of legendary creatures that doesn't synergies with other sets and themes and look like lost puzzle pieces, and lots of replacement effects.Once you become aware of it all looks like slop. And the worst part is that even when standard suffers because of those cards meant for other formats WOTC refuses to ban things if the problem is not huge enough.(oh yeah, I remember Uro, Oko, companion and a few others)
>>96673825SCREAM FOR MY PIGGY
>>96674481>to have lots of legendary creatures that doesn't synergies with other sets and themes and look like lost puzzle piecesThis has always been the case, there's just more of them now. You think Bruna was printed because Innistrad had a strong aura theme? No, at most you could argue there were curses, which don't work with her.
>>96674567>lots>always been the case, there's just more of them now.ok
>>96671999Not really since only niggers chimp out and throw a violent tantrum when they get called niggers. Same goes for spic greaser wetback beaners but niggers will always nigger-chimp out every time. The niggest misconception is thinking nignog niggers have any kind of civility. Hence why only a handful looked at Niggergorn from LOTR and thought it was cool for a minute before going back to their crackhoods.
>>96672628Walking Dead was the beginning of the end. There were already dragons and giant monsters in Magic, so Godzilla didn't really seem all that bad imo. But the idea of "Rick from Walking Dead" fighting goblins was just too much.
YE OLDEN DAYS- 3 sets of new cards and one reprint set per year. New sets were 1 large set and 2 small sets.CURRENT YEAR- 3 in-universe sets of new cards and X number of UB sets. All in-universe sets are large sets.I don't understand all the complaining about UB.
>>96671358Strixhaven, lorwyn and hobbit will be very tasty slop I can't wait to eat. Reality fracture will be the niko aris/jacestice league lgbtq troon show and I don't have any hope for it.
