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Previous: >>96667519

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ:
Now that the dust has settled, how has Edge of Eternities affected your local meta?
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Posting this again:

Does anyone here know if creased inner sleeves can damage the cards placed into them? I can't seem to find a definitive answer other than Google's a.i. and that isn't exactly the most reliable source.
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>>96675667
>TQ
Other than me running a Tannuk deck to commit tax fraud on a widespread level, not really. Being able to shit out a blightsteel big boy on turn 3 is hilarious.
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>>96675694
>Does anyone here know if creased inner sleeves can damage the cards placed into them? I can't seem to find a definitive answer other than Google's a.i. and that isn't exactly the most reliable source.

I dont see it why it would. However I wouldnt take the chance on a expesive or valuable card.
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https://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/03-10-25-pgA-deck-paste/

SURELY this is bracket 2, yeah? It's literally just Random Counters: The Deck. Surely this won't get me hated off the table?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96675667
>Now that the dust has settled, how has Edge of Eternities affected your local meta?

I don't play. I just build decks and shittpost here.
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>>96675667
>Now that the dust has settled, how has Edge of Eternities affected your local meta?
the game has been changed
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What are some decks you've built that looked good but ended up being shit? Build blaxos recently, and the deck LOOKS fun as hell, but sucks ass to play. Only won one game off an unanswered t2 Luminarch Ascension lmao.
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My cardfu, if you even care.
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>>96675737
Thanks. I think I will try to get ahold of some non-creased ones.
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I tried to make a skeleton tribal, but life is hard, as there's no good skeleton commander. The plan now is Coat of Arms + Skeletal Swarming, then sac a bunch of em with Jarad after dealing combat damage. Skittles is hilarious to catch people off guard with, but then the entire table wants my blood for playing infect. Any feedback is appreciated.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/skelemen-2/?cb=1759543134
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>>96675843
Too many copies to keep track of.
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>>96675799
Meta? It's just a couple of guys who get together, drink beers, eat pizza and sling some spells. Not at all is what I'm saying. Here's my favorite card from it tho, this little nigga slaps.
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>>96675875
this nigga running Wall-E
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>>96675843
I know someone with a Daxos deck and zero enchantments, built entirely around "when a creature dies" triggers that he'll spam with Daxos's ability. You get a 0/0 spirit, it automatically dies, triggers explode across the table. It's quite neat
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>>96675694
It shouldn't because the card will keep the plastic straight, unless the inner sleeve is so thick it can bend cardboard.
>>96675667
>tq
pic related is all-star in Shao Jun considering how many cheap rocks let me ramp into it, can't believe it's only 22 cents
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>>96675844
actually crazy card yet somehow I never see it
I guess too many boardwipes round my way
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>>96675906
>can't believe it's only 22 cents
It's the mana cost, mostly. Lots of way better tutors at lower CMCs
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>>96675919
>way better tutors at lower CMCs
It's 1 off fabricate and also recurrs from the yard
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>>96675667
>Now that the dust has settled, how
Both of the precons seem pretty popular, despite the Jeskai one being notably weaker than the Jund one. There's some pretty neat cards in the set but nothing game breaking. A couple fun upgrades for my Wayta list in the form of Dawnsire and Pain for All Solid set
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>>96675935
Yeah and 1 mana is a big deal sometimes. There's tons of board wipes at 5cmc but Wrath of God/Damnation are the goats at 4.
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>>96675667
Oink oink! i love my slop.
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>>96675667
>Now that the dust has settled, how has Edge of Eternities affected your local meta?
It turned my Tifa deck in to God mode.
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>>96675969
You want to share a decklist? My own Tifa deck sucks ass and I'm trying to make it better.
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>>96675953
Make your own UBsloppa versions of UBsloppa
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>double sleeve cards
>they have air in them
FUCK YOU AIR GET OUT OF MY CARDS
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>>96675987
Sure thing fellow Tifa chad
https://moxfield.com/decks/DAhte3U86EabbqFWkCMDmg
Soon replacing Augur of Autumn with Traveling Chocobo and will make room for Exploration (probably replacing Garruk) when Mr Mailman delivers.
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>>96676016
Also might make room for a lotus petal to increase the odds of a turn 1 Tifa but not sure that's too tryhard or what to cut for it. I don't want to go below 40 lands ideally.
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FNM report. Mulliganed to 4 and almost won. Very early into the game Derevi had permanent, "Sacrifice this Creature: Draw 2 cards" and "When this permanent leaves the battlefield, draw a card."

I also had a sticker that read, "Exile this permanent: you may cast target spell from your graveyard this turn."

But I made some greedy and brutal misplays that ended with me dying, when I really should've run away with the game. Largely off the back of forgetting Monument to Endurance has a burn mode.

Didn't help that people kept shortcutting their enter combat when I had Derevi to tap their creatures down. But I didn't want to be anal about it, since I didn't think it'd matter too much. But the chip damage is what killed me.
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>>96676029
>stickers
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>>96676029
i'm new to edh, what are the stickers about
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>>96676066
the most important factor of stickers is they can give your commander perpetual effects, making your 2/3 a 7/4 (or whatever) and giving it infect, indestructible
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>>96676051
Sorry chud, I AM going to eldritch evolution into Ambassador Blorpityblorpboop and you're going to like it.
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>>96675667
I don't know if that dude from the other thread who asked about my PreDH commanders is still here, But I will say the top 3
Intet, The Dreamer - Set up bombs on the top of your library easy with Dive Top, Scroll Rack, JMS, Preordain, etc.
Maga - Make PreDH great again with lots of mana doublers like extraplanar lens, cabal coffers, nirkana revenant, doubling cube, maga is an etb killshot by himself or exsanguinate.
Teneb the Harvester - This one is self explanatory. Classic junk pile. I don't need to explain myself.
I love the planar chaos dragons.
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I love Cunny btw
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>>96675997
Hmmm
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>game 1
>2 people are literally first game ever newfriends playing with freshly bought unsleeved precons
>game goes to time, most of that time is me and other guy explaining basics like "tapping" and "mana costs"
>game 2
>3 theft decks vs my reanimator
>game goes to time because 3 people at the table are just trading the same few permanents between eachother
>I manage to get 1 guy low but any time I cheat something big in to play it gets stolen on everyone elses turn
>game 3
>some fat guy gets kefka out turn 4 and flickers them 3 times
>denies us all cards in hand for two turn cycles; we all take 30 second turns while he spends 5-10 minutes on his durdling
>game goes to time, he had no win con he just played constant hand destruction
I love going to my LGS casual commander nights! I love going to my LGS casual commander nights! I love going to my LGS casual commander nights! I love going to my LGS casual commander nights!
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>>96676142
>game goes to time
What did you mean by this?
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>>96676142
This is why you just go and blitz people before they can waste your time.

>>96676149
Not him, but my LGS sets a time limit on edh matches. That way we don't get some annoying fuck trapping us in an endless loop.
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>>96676016

Oh, you're a green Tifa man! I'm a Tifa, Martial Artist guy. Well, well met Tifa chad.
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>>96676169
False equivalence
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>>96676029
Sounds awesome dude. I have a 60 card bogles stickers deck its a lot of fun. Always thought about doing it for EDH but hard to decide on a fun commander for it.
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Who's Jeska? And why should we care about her will?
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>>96676149
for casual edh night at this store, it's 5 bux to buy in. everyone gets a promo and 5 bux credit/a pack. they run 3 games, 1 hr per game
>>96676161
I mean I try. My reanimator deck can be brutal. Just hard to keep the beats on when the thing you just cheated in to play is stolen literally 5 times. I got a zurgo that can be pretty aggro, especially if I hit a token doubler early.
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>>96676016
I want this Tifa only because it has the largest breast of all Magic cards.
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>>96676177
Jeska's a barbarian from Dominaria, who's also a Planeswalker. She became a Planeswalker after first becoming Phage thanks to the Cabal's fuckery, then Phage got fused alongside Akroma and some other lady who's not that important into Karona, and then Karona did a lot of not really much of anything before getting split apart, Jeska emerged as a proper Planeswalker (I think Akroma died?) and she hung around until dying during Time Spiral.
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>>96676191
I didn't know phage was jeska. How did she become a planeswalker after being Phage? Isn't she Kamahl's sister?
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>>96676191
Interesting. Newer player. I didn't realize any of this had a story. Coming from YuGiOh this is different.
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>>96675860
An admirable effort, but skeletons have no redeeming qualities. Until there's a card like "creatures with regeneration get whateverthefuck", which will never happen because wizards retired that word, they all suck. Also chinks apparently hate skeletons because they're horrible fucking bug people and wizards caters to them, so no skeleton lords.
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>>96676218
Every 'block' had its own story, usually with attached paperback books they'd sell with packs.
They mostly dropped it because hte suits can't stand selling less packs in attendant sets even if it makes the sets better and easier to sell overall
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Just printed out about a dozen proxies. They look exactly like real cards only costed me like $7 at Office Depot. I was just testing it. But now I'm going to do this a lot more often!
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>>96676173
Unfortunately far as a Bogles strategy you're kind of fucked. You kinda want minimum U/G though.
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>>96676236
Nice
Did you print on cardstock or just sleeve over other cards?
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This feels like an obvious voltron commander but I never hear about it.
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>>96675843
I know that feel bro, I have him too, have had him for years and I think it won a single game.
Thinking about remaking it as a victor. valgovoth's seneschal deck.
>>96675900
But this is actually a really fucking funny idea, I might give that a try.
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>>96676149
Some stores actually organize EDH nights; but a lot of them just let you sign in for promos.

AFAIK, WOTC decides on a lot of store allocations based on attendance. Some stores try to push attendance with benefits, others just let it happen-- especially with commander since it's a format less tournament focused.
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>>96676255
>hexproof and nothing else relevant
>in uw, the shittiest voltron pair
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>>96676142
That's exactly how my LGS FNM is set up right now. It's great, I rape downgraded preconfags like you with my cedh thoracle combo reliably going off on turn 4 and take all the expensive promos for myself to get a fuckton of trade credit.
These kinda situations NEVER happen at my table and I make sure of it. Then we do "one for fun" and I pull out pheldagriff group hug and give them a good game to give them whiplash
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>>96676293
Blue in general never helps towards voltron it's so far out of its color pie
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>>96676295
sure thing buddy
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>>96676255
St Traff is one of those commanders that dropped off HARD after the 2016/17 power creep
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blocks you're path
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>>96676280
Sonic the Hedgehog. Luckily I needed more bracket 3 decks anyways. But holy fuck the pyrohemia synergies never pay off at all. I hate aggro so much sometimes. it's basically a boros deck because the blue doesnt help with the aggro part at all, and boros will never be good in commander
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>Farewell you say?
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>>96676331
>You don't say?
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>>96676255
he was designed before they started started only designing for Commander and Limited
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>>96676255
Zoomer alert
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>>96676255
This guy was a modern and standard boogieman for a long time before being powercrept in to irrelevance, just like Dark Confidant and Tarmogoyf.
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>>96675667
>Now that the dust has settled, how has Edge of Eternities affected your local meta?
I have yet to see a single EoE card played against me, but you never know!
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>TQ
I see some of the cool lands and I'm still hoping to pick up a Tezzeret for Golbez, but mostly it kinda came and went.
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>>96675667
>Now that the dust has settled, how has Edge of Eternities affected your local meta?
The World Shape (sac lands) precon is everywhere, play against it like twice a night
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> Yes, I am a red mage, how did you know?
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>>96675844
>>96675909

>Brad Nelson and Evan Irwin talking about how crazy this card will be back in 2012
>does nothing ever
>downgraded to uncommon in modern masters

It's one of those cards that looks really good but you're probably better off playing a creature or a ramp spell


>>96676452
>dark confidant and goyf powercrept into irrelevance
really?? I remember for them being staples ever since they got printed. I know there's a new black goyf.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/T7xECaELREChl2Jj7WAfAg

https://moxfield.com/decks/zV8C5_DBXUGO3Q1-3A7BxA

I know these izzet decks probably aren't very good but I would appreciate if any anons could tell me WHY they're not good or how to improve them.

The Veyran deck is mostly synergy and copying prowess/magecraft triggers with veyran or harmonic prodigy

The 2nd deck is similar but with otters and more reliable spell copying.
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>>96676525
dark confidant is legal in standard right now and nobody plays it
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>>96676331
>>96676346
Shit I haven't even thought of phasing in years. There a neat/quirky phasing commander/deck idea?
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>>96676551
it just works really well with things like auras and board wipes
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>>96676502
Yes, I am a black mage, how did you know?
I've wanted not-izzet spell slinger for so long and this is 100% my jam I'm so stoked for it holy shit
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>>96676537
Hello, thank you for your interest in Izzet. Niv Mizzet is a strict master and very homosexual flying lizard. Im here to help you find pushed spells that will devastate enemy mages and to remove spells from your library which are pathetic and weak.

Oh, and make your guild dues payments. Niv Mizzet is also a very avaricious dragon.
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>>96676161
>>96676183
>>96676284
It is psychotic to run an hour a game or whatever. No wonder these LGSs flop
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>>96676554
What constitutes a full party again?
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>>96676614
four creatures that are each one of rogue, warrior, wizard, and cleric.
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>>96676537
> https://moxfield.com/decks/T7xECaELREChl2Jj7WAfAg
Hmmm, interesting list.
I have a few ideas for upgrades.

Arcane Denial is a fairly cheap counterspell. Giving your opponents the option to pay 3 kinda sucks, and Arcane Denial draws a card.

Not sure why you have top? Top is a good card but I don't see much in there to really abuse it. Miracle cards or something maybe.

Going for combat is bold and going to be difficult usually. Things like Coruscation Mage are reliable pingers.

Run Treasure Cruise. Light up the Stage is also prob good for you. Stella Lee is a solid creature for this. Charmbreaker Devils are too slow and very likely to be interacted with. The +Atk spells are kind of sus. I guess Veyran can voltron kind of, but I think usually you want to double other triggers as your wincon.

Id cut 2 lands. If you add Light up the Stage, you have plenty of draw to find lands. Keep Watch also a good card perhaps.

That creature with defender kinda sucks
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>>96676537
I'll go in order, Veyran deck first:
>Adeliz is a dead card in most cases, you don't have enough Wizards to reliably get actual value off the casting. Replace with Balmor, Battlemage Captain
>Crackling Drake is kinda whatever in this deck, could be a Crime Novelist or another ramp spell
>You are lacking at least one bomb, probably Mizzix's Mastery but it could also be Surge to Victory if you're feeling nasty
>Temur Battle Rage is probably not enough value for this deck
>Expedition Map is a strictly worse Wayfarer's Bauble in general
>Not enough draw

Alania deck now
>Most of these otters aren't good enough to keep even with Alania doubling them. Consider cutting the Duo, the Frolicking Familiar, and the Rapid Augmenter
>in general, this deck is lacking a finisher much like the Veyran deck, and this deck wants a finisher because you can copy it possibly multiple times. Consider a Surge to Victory, a Mizzix's Mastery, or a Crackle with Power (remember that copying an X spell preserves its X value)\
>Not enough draw
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>>96676617
Ah, I was hoping it was Knight and not Warrior but fair enough. I wonder what ones would be best for Black Mage because I might build him too.
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>>96676633
>>Expedition Map is a strictly worse Wayfarer's Bauble in general
not strictly worse, bauble finds a basic and expedition map finds any land
if you have nonbasics that really work with your gameplan it's worthwhile
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>>96676537
Otter tribal is kind of a meme. Alania in particular will benefit from big spells. My previous notes mostly also apply here. Extra turn spells are good with alania. Also big things like Complete the Circuit, Season of Weaving
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>>96676645
That's fair, but it's still better than Map for these decks in particular.
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>>96676554
>get a full party
>load up your hand with a bunch of 0 cost junk cards worth pennies
>windmill slamdunk them all down
>blast the table for 20+ each
Oh gosh this sounds like my next dumb/meme deck I love it already
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>>96676554
This man might be suited for the monoblack deck I've been wanting to build. Golbez and Konrad are too similar so I want one to eat the other, but this is different enough.
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>>96676671
Party tribal is based
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>>96676696
I've wanted to build it for a while but nothing else seemed interesting enough
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haha what a story mark
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>>96676646
alania was my first deck. It was pretty cheap and I've moved on to the generic Veyran build. I keep the Alania deck cards in the same sleeves as the cards that replaced them so i can swap between the two.

>this deck is lacking a finisher much like the Veyran deck
I know. My issue is that I'm not sure what exactly an izzet deck would use as a finisher. If you don't win off combat or burn damage, then do you need to combo on one big turn?

>Not enough draw
I used to have more but I cut it because I thought "what is the point of drawing cards that just let me draw more cards?"
I know it triggers my prowess and magecraft but I'd rather have small cheap spells that at least do something. i think it's more of a deck problem that I needed to remedy instead of cutting the card draw.

>Crackling Drake is kinda whatever in this deck, could be a Crime Novelist or another ramp spell
I cut him and just forgot to update the list

>Temur Battle Rage is probably not enough value for this deck
You're saying it's too weak? I kept it in as a finisher since (I know this is a magical christmas land scenario) harmonic prodigy and veyran can get veyran to 11/11 and if i can get into an open opponent or make veyran unblockable then I can cast battle rage to OHKO them.
>>96676621
I have top because it's a pet card and I like to see the cards I draw with cantrips if I can help it. I don't even own a copy, I proxxy it but I'd like to own an original uncommon kamigawa if they ever come back in stock at my LGS. I've been considering cutting it since it is pretty redundant.
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>>96676725
>>96676646
>>96676621
>>96676633
>cont.
Basically, I like playing spells and interacting with the board. I like copying as well. Whether it be my spells or triggers. I like playing a flame of anor and drawing 4 cards and dealing 10 damage. i know Alania is weak and expensive but she lets me accomplish this reliably. veyran is good for the trigger part and it lets me focus on Izzet creatures, which i think are pretty cool.
IS there any hope for a creature or token based strategy as a win condition? I think if the deck's goal is clearly defined then the rest will easily fall into place. I would prefer to not be the guy that takes 3 extra turns or combos while the rest of the table watches.
>majority of the game is the mono-black control player using his scroll rack
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>>96676725
>>96676734
Izzet decks want to use something that gets a lot of cast triggers off as a finisher, or a big burn spell. So, overloading Mizzix's Mastery lets you do that, Crackle with Power does that, Surge to victory does that too, but less cleanly. If you want to win with token you need to probably put a few more counterspells in the deck to protect from board wipes, you want Balmor to ensure damage passes through, and you need a haste source because if you spend all your mana to generate a big board and then pass turn, its unlikely you get to untap with that board intact.
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>>96676748
I'm actually gonna post Balmor and if you want to win through tokens then he should probably be your commander over Veyran or Alania.
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>>96676750
> scuffed Bria
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>>96676760
>cmc2 bria
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>>96676750
>>96676748
Thanks. I've seen balmor before and I own a copy. Whenever I try to research him or decks he's in, it's usually a "$5 dollar budget" or pauper commander deck which makes me think he's just a meme or only capable in a very low-power environment. There are no guides or tutorials that try to use him as anything other than an "insane commander for under 20 cents!!" Also +1/0 is just very weak upon first glance.

I'm not saying that I'm trying to stomp every game with creatures in UR but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Does balmor actually do work, for all I know? I was wary of board wipes so i get running more counter magic. Can you recommend any other token makers, and will I mostly be running combat tricks and cheap cantrips simply to trigger the buff?


>>96676760
she's OOS at my lGS and like $20 for some reason.
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>>96676760
>2cmc
>gives trample
>doesn't have any stupid extra bullshit
>flying built-in
uhhh... bria is a scuffed balmor.
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>>96676770
It's easy to think that cheap cards are bad, but Balmor is a whole can of whoop-ass for about 25 cents. But honestly, the Veyran decklist you posted is a decent shell for Balmor, so play a game or two with him as the commander and Veyran in the 99.
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>>96676770
You're missing Third Path Iconoclast as your last token producer. Song of Totentanz is another good token producer, as is Empty the Warrens. Stormsplitter is probably the finisher you've been looking for in a token spam deck, as it comes with haste built in and Balmor can give it trample, but its a pain in the ass to track which otters have +1/+2/+3 etc
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>>96675843
Pretty much all of mine that aren't just tokens/stompy with a Commander that doesn't really need to be out or stay on the board for the deck to work. My pod is two super competent players and two idiots, so I basically can't build anything janky.
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I barely followed EOE, did it have good artifact support?
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>>96676815
they printed my favorite artifact
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>>96676554
I hate the party caveat but there's enough decent changelings in black that it wouldn't be a problem to set up.
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>>96676815
Very much so.
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>>96676818
what is it
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>>96676835
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>>96676760
>>96676767
>>96676772
>>96676778
okay, I'll give Balmor a shot next time I go out to my LGS. I'll put in a few counter spells, combat tricks, move veyran to 99. Should my non-creature spells be generally 1 or 2 CMC to make my creature triggers cheap?

>>96676797
>third path iconoclast
thank you, I had a reason for taking it out but I forgot why.
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was thinking about building ghired, thoughts?
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>>96676847
close
>>96676835
it's cryogen relic
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>>96676959
>it's cryogen relic
It's a good one for sure. Should have been uncommon instead of common
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>>96675860
Man, all they needed to do was make Emperor of Bones legendary and give him green and he would have been a fine skeleton commander. Maybe make the creatures he brings back skeletons for flavor at leats. Anyway, if looks fine. Jarrad being able to throw skeletons at your opponents is a cool direction to go.
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>>96675941
I see the jeskai a lot more but I think that's because it can infinite almost out of the box which appeals to the guys around.
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>>96675860
>>96677264
You can try making non-skellies into skellies with pic related

Unfortunately there's not likely to be any skeleton tribal support for a long time. No fucking skellymen in Marvel Heros, The Hobbit or Star Trek
People talk about UB taking fantasy out of Magic but they never hit on the fact it's a fucking straight-jacket for the types of creatures that can be in a set. Even bad in-universe sets can have random support for a tribe because its their own fucking setting and they can put what they want in it
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What is it with everyone wanting Skeletons to just be another Zombies? Zombies dominate the Sultai space in terms of obnoxious token undead bullshit, Skeletons should be tweaked into either Jund or dare-i-say-it, Glint-Eye and fully embrace their ephemeral nature with things like Lightning Skelemental. Skeletons shouldn't be here for a long time, but they should be here for a good time, so self-sacrifice or even extremely low toughness would be good on ones that are surprisingly large.
>oh god i want to make 5000 skeleton tokens!!!!
It's literally just zombies but stupider. Want something creative or at the very least distinct from other, similar strategies.
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>>96677366
>Skeletons shouldn't be here for a long time, but they should be here for a good time,
The thing that has been established for skeletons that DO exist tends to be that they are borderline impossible to get rid of, either having regenerate or because you can cast or otherwise return them from the graveyard.
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>>96677372
Recursion and Regenerate are still ways to circumvent being relatively easily destroyed, anon. Zombies die and you just make more, Skeletons should have things like that because you should be slamming your massive BONEr into the opponents, reviving it, and doing it again rather than making 50 small insufficient boners to disappoint even your mother.
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>>96677366
Thematically, skeletons disassemble and reassemble, You can hack a zombie to bits, and maybe its appendages still come after you, but it's not going back together again. Skellies can be put back together, sometimes in new horrifying ways.

I've said before but a skelly meld commander would be kino af
>2WBG
>Mad Skelemancer
>Legendary Creature -Human Wizard
>4/4
>pay up to life, {T}: Target skeleton creature you control gains "At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you both own and control this creature and another skeleton creature, exile them, then meld them into a token skeleton creature named Reconfigured Skelebrute. Reconfigured Skelebrute has haste, deathtouch, trample, and enters with X +1/+1 counters where X is equal to the amount of life paid by you this turn." Activate only once per turn, and only as a sorcery.
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>>96677420
*up to 10 life
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>>96677420
>3 colour sloppa for a mono black effect
DISGUSTANG
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>>96677429
>AAAAAA STOP PUTTING 3 COLORS IN MY 3 COLOR FORMAT
God you people are the fucking worst, most subhuman NPCs I've ever seen.
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>>96677429
Monoblack is too restrictive
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>>96677435
>all legendary creatures are elder dragons
retarded gorilla nigger
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>>96677420
if we ever get CZ playable Grim captain he should be the skelly melder given how he's like 3 different skeletons fused together
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>>96677440
>format designed for Elder Dragon type commanders
>NOOOO 3 COLORS IS SLOPPAA!!!
>SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP I CANT FORM OPINIONS OF MY OWN I LITERALLY CANT IT'S TOO HARD SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP EVERYTHING IS SLOP CARDSLOP UBSLOP TRIBALSLOP COLORSLOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
you aren't human
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>>96677420
So in your idea, some Skeleton cards come with a meld side and that skeleton + other(s) skeletons = meld skeleton? And skeletons become go wide then fuse them together?
Could be fun
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>>96677441
Yeah that would be awesome actually. Although I will say we're extremely close to them just letting legendary artifacts be your commander.
They've already dipped their toe making vehicles legal, and there's a heroes of the realm card with the "precious" keyword that lets you have a legendary nonartifact creature as a second commander. Would not surprise me in the slightest if that goes to print for Hobbit
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>>96677452
The targets don't actually have to have meld themselves. Meld is weird because although the meld creature is on the other side of the cards, the original cards themselves haven't flipped or transformed, they're exiled.
So in my suggestion, they just meld into a generic token creature that has set keywords and stats based on life paid that turn
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>>96677445
Look anon you can throw all the histrionic little tantrums you want about terminology but the fact is that the glut of 3-colour legendaries specifically designed to be commanders ARE slop - printed not because anyone thought them being 3 colours was appropriate or good design but because they were expected to sell to commander players. That's the very definition of slop: a low-quality product made exclusively in the name of ROI and nothing else.
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>>96677474
>tripling down
Yeah I'm just gonna work any harder to pull you from retarded contrarian land if you can't even take a step on your own
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>>96677482
>someone has... le different opinion from me?!!?!
>RETARDED CONTRARIAN NPC SUBHUMAN
I look forwards to the day you're old enough to drink, anon. It'll help take some of that edge off.
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I just wanted to discuss neat ideas for skelly commanders ;_;
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>>96677492
>obvious contrarian underage calling others underage
I like this strategy, keep going retard
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>>96677469
>The targets don't actually have to have meld themselves. Meld is weird because although the meld creature is on the other side of the cards, the original cards themselves haven't flipped or transformed, they're exiled.
Ahh yep, I was imagining like transform but the activation was sac with another skelly

>So in my suggestion, they just meld into a generic token creature that has set keywords and stats based on life paid that turn
Would it be a life paid that turn get X effect each turn or a level up type effect or just once off?
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>>96677494
To be fair anon I think your idea is super cool and I would totally play it I just don't think it should be green at all, and that 3 colour slop for no reason is a bad design trend. I like restriction, it breeds creativity in deckbuilding. The more colours, the more decks gravitate towards the goodstuff singularity.
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>>96677499
>Would it be a life paid that turn get X effect each turn or a level up type effect or just once off?
So at the beginning of combat, if you meld, the meld creature comes in with X +1/+1 counters equal to the amount of life you have paid that turn. So it's a one time thing in that sense.
You can pay up to 10 life when activating the effect that gives a skelly meld, so you have some control over it, and there's plenty of ways to pay more life with other effects before melding.

>>96677500
I'm not going to defend my imaginary card too hard, but I think green is justified for the golgari synergies with graveyard shenanigans and the selesnya synergies with +1/+1 counters since that's how the Skelebrutes get their p/t

And given the fact there are no good skelly commanders currently, print one which will give the maximum choice to players. When there's more than 8 legendary creatures that are skeletons (let alone ones that actually want to play skelly tribal), then we can print your monoblack skelly tribal guy

As a bit of an aside
>The more colours, the more decks gravitate towards the goodstuff singularity.
I don't find this to be the case at all. I looked into building Xu-Ifit as a skelly commander and I can tell you it has literally every reanimation spell that's worth running in black because what else is there to do?
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How do I build a deck with this guy that doesnt turn this game 1 v 3 and get me immeditaly hated off the table?
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>>96677445
oink oink OOOOOIIIINK
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>>96677531
>immeditaly
Wow you're a little bitch and you can't spell? Anyway you nut up and build a real commander that doesn't have G for Ramp and B for easy removal.
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>>96677531
It's green, you just ramp ramp ramp while everyone ignores you then vomit your gameplan onto the table backed up by infinity mana
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>>96677538
Mono Red outside of Zo-Zu is dumb and asking to lose.
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would mutate be a decent mechanic to represent this idea instead of meld? i know you could technically meld any card just by stating what the resulting permanent is in the effect, but i think wotc would just make a new mechanic for this idea. maybe a new keyword like "combine" or something where cards are put on top of each other like with mutate and are moved around as one
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Does anyone here have an actual deck they want to discuss? This custom card general shit is not what I come to /edhg/ for.
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>>96677551
Wrong.
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>>96677429
>+1/+1 counters
>mono black
Mmmkay
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>>96677531
All the goad in the world so they couldn't hit you if they wanted to
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>>96677492
>>96677429
This is funny and ironic.
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>>96677582
https://scryfall.com/search?q=colour%3DB+o%3A%22%2B1%2F%2B1+counter%22&order=edhrec&as=grid&unique=cards
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>>96676525
>really?? I remember for them being staples ever since they got printed. I know there's a new black goyf.
Goyf used to cost $120 and now isn't used in any format. Confidant used to cost $80, and currently isn't even good enough for bracket 2 EDH
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>>96677588
>swap B to G
>there's more
Sounds like it's a Golgari effect.
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>>96677551
>outside of one of the worst mono red commanders
>but it punishes lands so xd im super cool right
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>>96677590
>currently isn't even good enough for bracket 2 EDH
What's it like forming opinions on shit you don't know anything about? I never do it, so I have to ask.
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>>96677588
This is the most sepf defeating argument I've ever seen and its hilarious.
>if cards have been printed in that color... its part of its color pie!
Ignoring the fact that this reasoning completely invalidates the color pie because over the course of magic every color has gotten to do everything. When we look at what is in each colors wheelhouse, we look for support, not simply the presence of certain basic game mechanics. Eg. every color gets landfall but what color does lands matter actually belong to?

So, does the color pie exist and does it matter, or can we invalidate it whenever we want with disingenuous reasoning? Answer carefully becauss I would like for you to remain consistent.
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>>96677606
Dude, +1/+1 counters are within black's color pie. It's not like 50 cards, it's nearly 300. Red and Blue are the colors that are furthest from +1/+1 counters being their thing, Black is right in the middle.
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>>96677652
Except its literally not for the reasons I stated.
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>>96677606
Actually I think "there are ~300 cards in this mono colour that have +1/+1 counter effects therefore saying the mere existence of a +1/+1 counter effect makes this card not this mono colour is retarded" is a pretty self-contained argument, especially when the effect in question is not interacting with the counters but simply using them to track the size of a big skeleton.

If you want to talk about colour identity as defined by support, that's exactly why the pitched card is a mono black effect. Where exactly in "pay X life to make a big skeleton" do you see an effect that isn't blacker than newports?
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>>96677662
>it's literally not for [[reasons i made up]]
are you retarded? 300+ cards designed for +1/+1 counters makes it pretty clear they're within black's wheelhouse. Of the colors, it goes
>Green with the most
>White with second most
>Black in the middle
>Red
>Blue
Red and Blue are colors that are merely support or meant to work with the others, Black, Green, and White are the primary wedge.
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>>96677596
Dark Confidant is shit in EDH, even precon level. Even Bitterblossom is going the way of Phyrexian Arena.
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>>96677572
I'm taking a break from Tarkov for a little bit to work on Golbez now. I'm gonna have it assimilate the cards I had set aside for Syr Konrad because the decks would be too similar. It also makes room for me to build a different mono-black deck in either Flip-Sephiroth or The Destined Black Mage (even if he might be better as a 99-piece for Black Waltz No.3)
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>>96677420
There is no reason for this skeleton to have white.

Skeletons must be black at least. Green, red, or even blue, would make sense. But not fucking white. White is about as anti-skeleton as you can get.

As for the idea, I find it to be a solid meh. Wretched Bonemass exists and also sucks.

However, if you combined that with "when a skeleton dies, create a number of 0/1 Skeleton tokens equal to that creature's toughness, and you may place a number of +1/+1 counters equal to that creature's power minus one on any number of skeletons created this way" would be neat.
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>>96677826
That should be creating tokens one minus toughness rather than equal to toughness so 1/1 skellies just fucking die
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>>96677826
erm ahckshually there is one (1) skeleton with W in the colours
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>>96677826
>There is no reason for this skeleton to have white.
+1/+1s and tokens
>However, if you combined that with "when a skeleton dies, create a number of 0/1 Skeleton tokens equal to that creature's toughness, and you may place a number of +1/+1 counters equal to that creature's power minus one on any number of skeletons created this way" would be neat.
Open the custom card generator of your choice and attempt to fit that text into what is already there
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This will trigger when I sacrifice an artifact creature, right?
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>>96677850
I dont give a shit, print it on the other side as a flip, or it becomes a bonepile token with that ability. Or go back to the days when they printed small novels on cards.
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>>96677875
An Artifact *what* anon?
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>>96677842
That card is shit and shouldn't exist and nuwizards is shit, white and skeletons don't mix, I'll autistically die on this hill
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>>96677883
oh my god
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>>96677819
>>96677572
https://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collection
Forgot the list, so far I've cut
Palantir of Orthanc, Thopter Squadron, Armix, Scroll Rack, and Mana Web. I need to cut more probably to work in a lot of other cards I wanna give a go.
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>>96677888
>nuwizards
>12 years ago
anon we're old
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>>96677572
Yea motherfucker discuss how to make a nonshit skeleton tribal deck, I posted my decklist here and got "good try award" feedback.

>>96675860
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>>96677895
NuWizards started with Scars of Mirrordin, the rot just didn't overcome them until Fate Reforged
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>>96675843
Minthara, Merciless Soul sounds like a really cool commander that you can proliferate into giant big stats, that you can then use to get a massive zombie horde or big tokens ect. ect. but unfortunately, a lot of interesting cards that would synergize with her don't, because her end-of-turn effect needs something on your board to have left BEFORE the end of the turn, so you can't use any kind of temporary token that disappear at the end of turn because they haven't left by the time she triggers.

Also 4cmc do nothing unless you have set up, every other black white deck can do what you want to do but better
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>>96675667
Piggy slop general
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>>96676554
So glad they're going back to approved UB
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>>96677891
>https://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collection
And you're looking for cuts/suggestions?
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>>96677990
Yes exactly. I stuck the cards I wanted in onto the list, it's currently at 115. I welcome any help you or anyone can offer.
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>>96677572
Mine is a spider man deck
Everyone would scream about it so why bother? Lmao
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>>96675843
Gandalf the White
>5cmc commander that wants you to play all your synergies AFTER you cast him, meaning your strategy is ramp hard in mono w
>all the best artifact synergies for him are in blue
I just couldn't make him work without any combo durdle jank.
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>>96677733
Oh, hush. Dark Confidant scores me wins more often than not. Most expensive card in my deck is 7cmc and my average is 3. So I'm not doing all that much. And once the Confidant is done being useful, I just Path to Exile to ramp.
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>>96677572
I want to talk about Kruphix, God of Horizons. The power level in my game shop is pretty mixed, so I don't want to build a deck that just sweeps every game.

Unfortunately, it looks like Kruphix synergizes really well with expensive Eldrazi cards - because he can stack his mana and get a big Ulamog out incredibly quickly.

I mostly want to run him with Doubling Cube and Helix Pinnacle as a cool little alt win con but I don't want him to be utterly unstoppable, and I think it's pretty hard to find a balance between the two.

Is it just silly to not run something like Eldrazi?
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>>96676959
I thought your favorite artifact was nutrient block because a nutrient block is slop and you are a piggy
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>>96678193
>>96677978
How bored are you?
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>>96677435
You should have added "then search for a land and exile an opponent's creature"
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>>96678198
Probably shouldn't popularize memes shitting on your own format
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>>96677888
Neither do white and zombies or blue and vampires
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>>96678057
nah not really, sure he leans into it but you can also go big mana X spells and you'd be fine
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>>96675843
Emperor of Palamecia
Sephiroth, Fallen Hero
War Doctor/Ryan Sinclair
4th Doctor/Anyone
All Gisa's
The Cyber-Controller

I could go on forever, baby
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Got stung by a wasp right on my fingertip this morning now I can't move my finger
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>>96678257
That's a Hornet though.
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>>96677460
Crafting with 4 tribes is kinda yikes so i think i'd rather just get new card
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>>96678057
Most kruphix decks I see are massive X spell shit.
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>>96677733
Their difference is that Arena is generally decent in a lot of lists, but Blossom is an explosive beast that is almost always worth buying and putting into an aristocrat/sacrifice deck.
Arenas keep getting cut from lists because more efficient forms of card advantage keep popping up and Black Market Connections was a big one.
I still don't think there is that much mono black token gen that outpaces the blossom (still love you ophiomancer)
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>>96678198
not beating the allegations. oink oink nigga

I am very bored
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Apologize
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>>96676015
Ya gotta suck the air out. Get salivating, baby.
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>>96678353
No. they didn't actually make heroes for over 30 years, (i guess the gatewatch shit kinda counts though?) That, like much of the shit in the new sets, really breaks high fantasy ideas when modern real world ideas and things are introduced. The superhero is a modern concept that does not belong in this game and that is why most people didn't like the gatewatch storyline
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>>96677898
My proposition:

Keep all the skele-lords. Cut green, skeletal swarm aint that great. Cut all the shitty skeletons (like a 1/1 you can pay 2b to return to your hand). Go monoblack with osteoharmost, get some big critters, and pack in removal/hate. Now you're making skeletons with big boney bodies. Throw in altar of the wretched, bone splinters, for flavor. Pack some instant speed play dead cards to keep your harmonizer alive.

Hardest part of your deck is gonna be late game, you need to do something big, and you draw reassembling skeletons.
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>>96678398
>The superhero is a modern concept
Lmao what the fuck? Action Comics started in the 30s, around when LoTR was being written
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>>96678398
Old myths were literally just super heroes except people were stupid enough to think the guy who wrote the stories was serious.
Hercules was a super hero
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>>96678474
fuck off Grant Morrison
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>>96678398
>they didn't make hero
You are like baby
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>>96677572
I made kraven the hunter last week, he's pretty fun. I like that he works well with commiting crimes. I'll probably throw a crime gisa into him when I have the chance to pick one up
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How much do you think Cabbage Merchant will cost on the secondary market when Avatarslop comes out? Its the only card from the set I'm interested in right now.
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>>96676852
>Should my non-creature spells be generally 1 or 2 CMC to make my creature triggers cheap?
It depends on how many cost reducers you run, mostly.
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>>96676554
Are there many black spell copy/duplication effects? Obviously a mono black storm deck with something like Tendrils as a finisher comes to mind with this guy
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Kinda want to build a deck that runs a "big dumb burst draw beater" commander, should I build Zegana or Tishana? Tish seems a bit better but I don't really like playing tokenslop
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>>96678556
Forgot pic
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>ctrl+f "slop"
>28 results
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>>96678608
It's so weird how quickly slop spread even to normies.
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>>96678529
Literally who?
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>>96677572
I built Spider-Man and I enjoy throwing down turn 3/4 Avacyn or Myojin of Life's Web.
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>>96678398
BEHOLD
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>>96678616
it's pretty funny it caught on so quickly and without any sort of outcry that it started out as anti-semitic
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>>96678638
Because it never really did.
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>>96678641
it never really caught on or it never started out as anti-semitic?
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>>96678583
Copying spells isn't casting, and won't trigger him or count for Storm
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>>96677576
Purphoros,Bronze Blooded has won me tons of games. Pretty damn fun too
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>>96677576
Very strong but INCREDIBLY boring and one-dimensional
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>>96678669
Yep, you're correct. My bad.
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Hate myself and want to die
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>>96678353
>heh this is magic now chuddy get used to it!
>NOOOOOO WHY DIDNT YOU BUY THE SPIDERMANS DONT YOUR KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THESE CONTRACTS ARE?!? YOU NEED TO BUY IT!!!!
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I ain't got no IPhone
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>>96676725
Im going to tap 2 mana to cast Infernal Grasp on Sheriff Chitwood in real life
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chulane still a boogeyman or grandpa is powercrept into safety of not requiring boots 99.9% of the time to untap?
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>>96678735
>g-guys Spider-Man was a flop cause ummm...my walmart and also bsky disliked it
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Do you prefer the official tokens, making your own, or do you just use dice?
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>>96678771
I have a Yenna deck that can copy most of my deck so I printed out duplicates of the cards she can copy because its a total pain in the ass any other way. Outside of her, dice
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>>96678771
People who use dice should be fucking kicked out.
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>>96678771
Blank dry erase size cards + markers.
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>loves deck building
>hate playing it

Anyone else on the same boat?
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>>96678750
cope and seethe retard the price on the secondary market is literally less than half of what it was before release literally every single corner of the internet is saying how nasty the set is
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>>96678227
>>96678311
Awesome! I'll play ball with something like that, then.
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>>96678826
>I have no actual proof but please believe me with my anecdotes that you already indicated aren't evidence to you.
Ok, Rachel/Shivam/Prof
Did a youtuber give you this opinion?
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Fellas I can't fucking take it anymore my pod has a massive rule tranny that sucks the fun from the game started to bring extremely crunched decks. We usually are a very chill, for fun kind of pod but this guy started making decks about cloning massacre worms, reverberating things into infinites and when we told her to chill she brought a dogshit jund deck about tripling power and oneshotted everyone in turn 6 then said "heh sorry i just highrolled!" she even started getting all flirty and teasing when i tell her to shut the fuck up and call her names as if she liked it i can't fucking take it anymore i want to go back to playing theft without worrying about being given scheming symmetry so this fucking tranny can get their 10th massacre worm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>96678839
>she even started getting all flirty and teasing
rape correction until she stops
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>>96678839
find a new pod
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>>96678821
Those tokens where you draw your own are reddit incarnate.
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>>96678867
I'd much rather be reddit over carrying like 600 tokens ngl
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>>96678839
rent free
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>>96678771
Official tokens, double sleeved in a sleeve color that's different from any of my decks.
I don't put cards into my decks if I don't have the corresponding token ready.
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post decks, also what can I do to improve this?
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>TQ
I see a lot of the warp cards, but not many people are running EoE commanders, it seems. I got both the precons during the EoE prerelease and liked them a lot, so I ended up upgrading them. I've swapped out the bugman for Korvold a few times, and it still runs fine. The deck snowballs super hard and is fun to pilot. Kilo can be abused easily, but I stick to meme wincons like Millennium Calendar to win instead of Ballista-ing everyone. I am interested in proxying the manabase and making an Infinite Guideline Station deck since I'm not paying for all that shit. I've always wanted to try a 5c deck.
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>>96678913
>double sleeving tokens
Why
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>>96678929
Realms Uncharted would probably be good, same for Field of the Dead. Sylvan Safekeeper protects your commander once you flip her and also puts lands into the bin on demand. Elvish Reclaimer as well.
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I'm still seething over spiderslop
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>>96678257
Oracle of Mul Daya?
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>>96678839
"She" has 11 massacre wurms. The other one is a massacred wurm hidden between his legs
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>>96678835
I really hope Wotc is paying you to run damage control
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>>96678971
Why? it flopped we won
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>>96679022
>Have to see tons of spider decks at my tables
>more marvel shit coming
I don't feel like I am winning here
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>>96678929
Buy the 4 fetch lands you can play in mono green
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>>96679028
It'll be gone to be never seen again by the next set 99% of the cards are garbage
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>>96679045
That's what they said about FFSlop and Whoslop and Falloutslop
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I treat UB slop just like food slop. It's an enjoyable thing every now and then but I definitely don't want the majority of what I consume to be slop.
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>>96678867
I'm not drawing anything, I write the name of the card, p/t, any effects. Get over yourself fag.
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>>96679052
Litterally nobody said that about final fantasy, final fantasy fans have very deep pockets that was going to sell no matter what. fallout did fall off, who did fall off and here's a spoiler, avatar will too
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>>96679098
Yeah, retard, I still see them. Financials mean fucking nothing to me.
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>>96679106
Ok? In the same frequency when they released? Retard? No? Didn't think so faggot
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>>96678839
Run more removal
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>nobody in the playgroup has said anything today
So I guess we're not playing
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>>96678839
Trannies euin every space they enter. Why do you voluntarily choose to interact with one?
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Spelltable sucks man
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>>96679151
There's two trannies in my pod and they are far less obnoxious than the fat bearded dudes and geeks who spent most of HS in a locker.
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>>96676191
Wow actually that's a cool story. I had no idea my cardfu is actually another one of my cardfus.
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>>96679179
Tummy
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>>96679160
just treat it like solo queue in a video game rather than magic with real people
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>>96679147
>im a passive beta male who waits for everyone else to tell me what they're doing, and if they forget its games night or dont assertively tell me we're playing, I just say nothing and make gay little posts on 4chan
Grow the fuck up.
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>>96679227
Why should anon have to be the only person in the group to grow up?
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>>96678839
Bang her
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>>96678839
>She.
Lol, no.

But anyways, you gotta fight fire with nuclear bombs and when in doubt, don't forget to Jund em out.
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>>96679227
I asked and haven't heard back. Faggot.
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>>96678929
Oracle of Mul Daya? Fetch lands? What are the win cons? Rude Awakening is also a must have for mono green deck.
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>>96678913
>double sleeved
I just use the clear Kitana inner sleeves.
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>>96679232
Adults get busy and forget what day it is, live with it
>>96679278
But you can't deny crying about it on 4chan
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>>96679297
Nah you're just wrong but being an asshole because you're young and think it's a requirement for using le asshole of le internet.
Same thing with every retard who immediately tries to be hostile.
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>>96678839
>am tranny
>went to fnm
>was kinda being a rules nerd because we had a new guy and i was trying to help teach him proper play
>made a massacre wurm copy
>didn't play any jund decks though

phwew wasnt me
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>>96679324
Faggot is just 4chaners talk like how darkies call eacher nigga if you can't handle it go to reddit
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>>96679331
>Literally admitting you are doing what the post accused you of
lmao ok
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I like my precon red green dragon deck, and I've added some cards I've gotten from Dragonstorm boosters :}
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>>96679351
Very nice work anon :)
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>>96679351
Is that Vrondiss?
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Update
I played a bit with Vivi and I got targeted nonstop for my first day of EDH
The one game I was able to keep him alive for more than 2 turns, I ended up instantly sweeping everyone with Omniscience

I will stick to Vadrik instead from now on because Vivi is clearly beyond fucked
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>>96675843
ive tried so hard with blaxos. Legit my favorite exp commander. He's just too fucking slow, you are either paying for enchantments to get exp, or paying to get tokens. It also doesn't help he a 3cmc 2/2, someone sneezes and he dies.

Also his vanilla tokens are basically useless unless you already got a fuckton of exp, or a board of constellation triggers. I've had with more fun with the OG eriette if I want to do B/W enchantments
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>>96679438
>I played a bit with Vivi and I got targeted nonstop for my first day of EDH
>The one game I was able to keep him alive for more than 2 turns, I ended up instantly sweeping everyone with Omniscience
Did this surprise you? Vadrik's been a really pushed yet under-the-radar commander for years and Vivi is obviously even more busted.
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>>96679450
Vadrik was fun too, a little more fun because I can fly a little more under-the-radar
I'm using some niche strategies I think, my mana stems a little from treasure tokens from Alchemists Talent and Spell swingle/Brass's Bounty and I can really blow up once I get my Parallel Thoughts cast
Then my next 7 draws are the game enders like Omniscience, Enter the Infinite, Crackle with Power, Mana Geyser, and Inner Fire etc.

You can do some fucked up shit if you can male ot 4 or 5 turns in with Vadrik alive
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>>96679470
Jesus christ the spelling errors am I having a stroke
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>>96679450
>Vadrik's been a really pushed
Lol. Lmao.
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>>96679351
>>96679403
It's the draconic destruction preset, pretty nice because I get to spam dragons if I get lucky.
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>>96679516
wholesome choice, i remember buying it just cuz the store didnt have the dinoramptor precon in stock, basically accidentally fell in love with dragons and gruul because of it
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>>96679508
Vadrik is really good, yes. There's a guy at my LGS with a budget Vadrik deck that can consistently storm out on turns 4-5. Like it's not cEDH but it is a very explosive commander.
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What's your Balltecruiser General, /edh/?
>you do have at least one Battlecruiser deck, right?
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Anybody brewing Cabbage Merchant?
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>>96679557
yes
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>>96679557
When you guys get sick of me spamming the same pics, say something.
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>>96679557
>What's your Balltecruiser General, /edh/?
>>you do have at least one Battlecruiser deck, right?
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>>96679438
>playing UB Slop
deserved
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>>96677898
the whole appeal of skeletons is that it's shit. the moment we get a pushed do thing draw card 3 color slop legend it loses everything that makes it unique and fun
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>>96679578
>>96679394
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>>96679557
What the hell is battlecruiser?
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>>96679587
Timmy magic
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>>96679564
Thraximundar is the big Grixis version of this.
>>96679566
I love this deck. I'm probably going to make a similar Rith one because it looks like so much fun to play.
>>96679576
I remember this fella. Coldsnap cards and the Legendary creatures are so underrated.
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>>96679045
doesn't matter. people bought anyway and that's all the data they care about
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>>96679619
No one bought it.
Do not ask me for evidence.
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I hate getting flooded more so than being mana screwed
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>>96679557
Yes
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If I cannot be bothered by mana drama, which colour is the best for monocoloured decks?
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>>96679708
What do you want?
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>>96679708
Black or Green
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>>96678826
Set sucks but you're a fucking retard if you don't understand that every sets cards are massively overinflated before and just after release. Only prices from week 2+ are proper comparisons.
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>>96679708
Green, Red, Colorless, or a few blue ones.
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>>96679708
>KING
Green
>Good and balanced
Black
White
>Good and unbalanced
Red
>Meh
Blue
>lol, lmao
Colorless
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>>96679696
You have a card that can always be cast available to you and you'd rather have things you can't cast than things that build your resources. You're just stupid.
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>>96679762
What a dumb no games post.
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>>96679530
It's objectively worse than Mizzix, a decade old commander.
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>>96675843
>Third Doctor Sarah Jane or Martha Jones
Simic does a lot of things well, but voltron isnt one of them. Ended up breaking it apart and gonna build Lonis instead
>Ardyn the Usurper
Fun guy, great in 99, miserable to play in mono-color as a commander. Gonna make Shadow (Final Fantasy) or Vincent Valentine instead. Haven't decided on who yet.
>Aerith Gainsborough
10/10 art but her ability makes it lean towards too many directions. Ended up streamlining it to a Minwu Soul Sisters deck and it kicks ass.
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>>96679788
Third Doctor and Sarah is bant and gives you access to a lot of aura and equipment support so I really do not know what you mean. You have white.
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>>96675843
This guy. Mono green Omnath being a big mana sink seemed like it would be cool and fuel constantly bigger and bigger plays but in practice it just wasn't good enough. He got absolutely massive but it didn't win games unless the opponents were playing badly Think it won two or three games by Overwhelming Stampede but that's about it. Eventually replaced him with a different mono green commander and it played infinitely better.
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>>96679696
this is why new people play do thing draw card KOS legends to avoid floods being a problem
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>>96679759
Sir you are in the edh general, red is objectively the worst color in commander and it's not close. Every cedh deck besides slicer only splashes red for underworld breach, which is basically a black card printed in red. Same with the red "not dark rituals". Blue is literally required in every competitive deck because it's so broken.

If you're talking about your opinion on casual commander in your meta, fine. But if you're looking at win statistics, you're probably illiterate.
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>>96677356
>Unfortunately there's not likely to be any skeleton tribal support for a long time
I didn't even think about it but you're probably right. Admittedly, Edge Of Eternities having what is probably the closest we're going to get to a skeleton commander was a surprise so it's possible we could get another surprise one, but it isn't feeling like it's likely. You're mostly right about your second point, but it also feels like Magic just doesn't bother with some types even in their own settings.
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>>96679696
Based and high IQ
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>>96679851
He was asking about mono-colored EDH decks. That was my ranking, not the colors overall.
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>>96677420
I like the theming of a melding skeleton. Maybe the way some of the Lost Cavern's Of Ixalan worked with that craft thing. Like Altar of the Wretched which flips into this thing. Though I think the colors could use work. If they have to be three color I'd think make them jund. At least that way you can use skeletal swarming and there's like one or two flaming skeletons around.
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>>96679851
>red is objectively the worst color in commander and it's not close
false
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>>96677531
You don't. You get hated out of the table first thing. But that's the challenge of some deck types. Roll with it and make it your mission to handle the 3v1.
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Comfy gaming in the Pigpen
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>>96677531
a guy I know plays this pillow fort + turbofog
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>>96679924
> 2nd from right
Must be suffering being a 'woman' with a 5 o clock shadow
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>>96679879
Even worse. Mono red decks lose to one boardwipe. No drawing (impulse drawing is gay) no ramping, you literally just play creatures mindlessly and wait to get raped by even the most mid control deck. I cant even remember the last time I lost to a mono red deck
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>>96677572
Built Ivora recently. I've always wanted to try a mono red deck but could never decide on which commander to go with. Eventually realized I had one of her in my bulk and a glut of red draw discard cards there too so put them all together. Even a couple of the discard payoffs like Glint-Horn and Surly Badgersaur. Tried it out this week and honestly, it went pretty well. She got big fast and started hitting people for dangerous amounts quickly. Took out two of the other players in one big turn with Scourge Of The Throne and her. Not really sure where to take it next though. It's incredibly straightforward, which I do like about it, but that leaves it in a point where I'm stuck between synergy and options.
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>>96679957
play Axonil and this never happens because people are too retarded when it comes to dealing with him
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>>96679924
Grrrrrr!!!!!!!!
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>>96678591
here's who you're actually supposed to build
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>>96677968
She seems cool and is in good colors for sacrificing stuff to get her effect off. But I guess at four mana cost she's just too slow? The thought of building up a big army of spirits pumped up by her does sound very tempting enough to almost try it anyway. Does anything else in her colors do the theme of pumping up a big board constantly like she does?
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>>96679338
WHAAAAAAAA YOURE MEANIES
lmao are you 12?
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>>96678771
Official tokens. But if I'm playing a deck that makes copies like Orvar, I have a bunch of dry erase flash cards to draw up something quick to use.
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How many experience counter cards do you think we'll get
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>>96679638
Nobody said it wasn't bought tardo but like all pig slop it's here and gone with the next slop
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>>96680031
No more than 5
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>>96679972
That looks pretty fun actually, am I no longer a mono red hater?! Should I build a Knuckles the echidna treasure slop deck now?
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>>96679470
>Vadrik was fun too, a little more fun because I can fly a little more under-the-radar
How did you fly under the radar with Vadrik? Every time it went from day to night or night to day you'd remind everyone your commander is there. The few times I've seen anyone try a day night strategy it was almost an instant draw into getting everyone at the table to hard target that player out of the game then and there. Even if getting rid of the day night player doesn't stop the day night.
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>someone across the hall is slamming the table repeatedly
>"YOU KEEP KILLING MY COMMANDER EVERY TIME GRAAAAAAAAA"

this isnt hyperbole
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I wish I had a meta where shitty commanders were playable
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>>96680066
>Play a commander that wins on untap
>"wtf why do you keep killing my commander?!?!?"
Many such cases.
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>>96680071
anon this makes no sense because good commander decks are just a pile of 99 good cards with a commander that provides ideal color identity and a cheap value engine. your shitty commanders are playable, you're just building a gameplan that's too redundant on a bad card.
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>>96680034
No.
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>>96678839
Next time she corrects you just remind her of the rule where she has to get under the table and suck you off when you beat her. 50/50 shot she actually starts throwing.
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>>96676169
Slop meme by a slop eating pig.
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>>96680116
Slop file format by a slop using pig
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Pigs eat slop.
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>>96680140
Fuck off to the mtg general thread then?
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>>96680143
(you) are a pig and (you) eat slop
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where's gay bolas poster
he needs to see this
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>>96680157
>I hate commander but shall shit up the thread!
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>>96680093
Yes.
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>>96680140
hasbro needs to keep the lights on
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Why aren't Commanders called Generals anymore?
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>>96680140
>>96679394
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>tfw my meta is so abjectly opposed to any kind of combo deck they won't even tolerate fucking Obosh they Preypiecer burn because he is "too hard to stop"
What happened to the days of actually playing and building to your local meta? Just fucking kill him. But no, that isn't allowed because single target removal is considered mean and "targeting" another player. OFC its targeting another player, have we reached the point where if somebody is threatening to win, we have to just let them or be branded a meanie for stopping their deck from "doing the thing"
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>>96680218
Capitalism
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>>96680259
This, sadly.
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>>96680166
There better be more than one God or I'll be upset
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>>96680116
Ukrainian culture is beautiful
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Why aren't Generals called Elder Dragon Highlanders anymore?
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>>96680296
Lack of gatekeeping
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>>96680143
Say you are a pig and pigs eat slop.
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>>96680296
If you don't have an OG Elder dragon deck, you can't call yourself an EDH player.
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>>96680323
>If you don't have a shitty deck for good boy points, you can't call yourself a person who plays the format you play
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>>96680140
I AM A PIG AND I EAT SLOP.
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>>96679784
>Mizzix
>Need to cast three spells with increasing MV in order to get a discount of 3
>Vadrik
>1 mv less
>Gives a discount of 1 off the bat
>Cast a single Brute Force and you get a discount of 3 in addition to the one you already had
And if you say "but Brute Force only lets you discount spells for a turn", you're right but it doesn't matter in a storm deck that's planning on killing the table in a single turn anyways. I've played against both Mizzix and Vadrik extensively and I assure you Vadrik is much stronger.
Both are weaker than Vivi, but I digress.
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>>96680318
>>96680462

>>96679394
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>>96680003
It's really tricky.

You can use Exploit, like from Colonel Autumn, to get a sac off anytime you play her, meaning you can get one EXP immediately, but you're relying on drawing one card that you might not get any use out of after. Flicker sounds ideal - but actually, flickering Minthara out for counters isn't worth it - you just don't get enough value to waste something like a Cloudshift for 1 Power and a ward.

Well, you should look for things that pump power, like Auriok Bladewarden, Sarevok Deathbringer, Shadowheart, Necrosynthesis, Ghoulcaller Gisa, ect. ect.! Yeah, that's great, but they're all engines that get utilised by you having any power - and unfortunately, Minthara generates it too slow to dedicate a significant portion of your deck to. One power a turn, MAYBE, isn't enough to get any of these engines online.

Well, let's try to get those engines online. Let's add some Proliferate, maybe a Metastatic Evangel, a couple sac engines maybe, a Laezel if you're feeling bold... but you're still maybe getting two counters a turn, maybe, and you still have to find something to sac. Well, why don't you use Blood or something, since you want to get rid of useless junk anyway and it lets you filter through your deck? Well unfortunately Black isn't very good at Blood generation, even though it has a few Vampires that synergise with it well.

You're probably thinking "okay but why don't you just do [x]?" Here's the problem with that, unfortunately you can pump $100 cards into this deck and I know that because I've tried multiple times, having different friends build it with their giga-value cards, and at the end of the day, even if you get it so you can get 1 EXP counter a turn, EVERY turn, consistently - Forget 2 - you'll just wish you had a Commander that did it better and that you didn't have to put crutches on to make function. Swap her out for any other black/white "go big" commander or token commander or vampire commander and the deck works better.
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>>96680462
IAAPAIES
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>>96680454
See >>96680462
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>>96680501
I did sac engine with Nether Traitor and Blood Artist and Bloodthrone Vampire, I've done simple Fake Your Own Death-style, Demonic Gifts "sac your thing in combat and get it back for XP" jank, even used shitty cards like Mourning to get an enchantment out then return it to hand immediately to have a permanent leave, I've put sac lands in just to have something to sac, I've used Throne of Geth and Cat-oven to proliferate counters, I've Fanatical Devotioned to have a Sac outlet I can use to keep Minthara alive so she can't get Murder-ed, so many other things, so many things

But Minthara is held back by two main things in her color identity, in my personal opinion:
First, her wording specifies "if a permanent you controlled left the battlefield", meaning it doesn't trigger off of something dying, it's just something leaving. That's fine - it gives you a range of options - however it means Teysa Karlov and cards similar to her don't trigger or cause any kind of effect. They didn't die. There's the second clause too, "at the beginning of your end step", meaning that if you can get a token that'll exile at the end of the turn, Minthara doesn't trigger off of it. A permanent didn't leave the battlefield by at the start of your end step, it left during. As a result, she doesn't get an Experience Counter from that permanent leaving, because it missed the time to leave.

Second, she has an issue with Toughness. You can make her big - and with Ward, she's scary - but she can't ever really swing because she's 2 Toughness, meaning she can be pinged to death by pretty much anything, and she can never swing or block without being killed. As a result, you have this glass cannon that you have to essentially try and cheat past your opponent with something like Fear or Shadow, and if they ever catch her, it doesn't matter that you have 2000 counters, she's going to cost at least 6 mana and now your entire board loses their +200/+0 until you can get her back out.
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>guy removes every permanent another player has every turn
>guy leaves
>’yeah he ragequit last time, kept crying that I lied about my power level’
>next game he infinites on turn 3

Why are people such annoying faggots?
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Have you ever sandbagged after realizing the rest of the table oversold their decks?
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>>96680584
had to hold a blood moon in my hand all game once because I didn't realise that someone at the table was playing the Omo precon and then when I was forced to discard it later they asked why I didn't cast it and I said it would suck if I played it
well they said i should have so the next time we played those decks together I happened to pull it early and played it, and they did nothing but bitch the entire game afterwards despite the fact that it's all just timestamps baby

can't win for tryin
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>>96680558
>>96680501
Yeah the fact she's one experience counter per during your end step severely limits it. Considering at the time they were doing more once per turn effects I wonder if she'd have been much better off if instead she was a once per turn but it happened whenever a permanent left your battle field. Still limited to once per turn but now it's not mandatory for it to be end step and you can get some value then and there with it.
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>>96680568
How is that even possible? Sol Ring -> Arcane Signet turn 1, two tutors turn 2, 7 mana turn 3 to win?
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>>96680614
anon there are so many different ways to infinite turn 3.
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>>96680614
Just get 5 red mana and dualcaster+molten duplication or twinflame
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>casually picks up a handful of exp counters the turn he comes down
nothin personnel kid
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>>96680584
I sandbag to let my wife win in many games so I don't destroy her enjoyment of the game by beating her 80% of the time.
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>>96680641
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MTG died when they invented hybrid mana costs. Pips are pips and the weakness of a multicolor deck is that sometimes you get screwed on them.
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>>96680632
Yeah? Cool? I started playing like 3 months ago I have no idea how things like this are possible. My friends and I all play precons, we don't touch dumb shit like infinite combos
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>>96680653
you're close but off by a few sets
MTG died when they switched to new borders
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>>96680568
>he infinites on turn 3
What is the point of this? I just don't fucking get it. It's like just taking all the properties in monopoly before you're halfway round the board. Sure you "won" but the point was to play a game, not to try and stop playing a game as soon as possible
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>>96680669
The new borders are fine, even if blue foils don't pop nearly as much
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>>96680685
There are people who actually, legitimately believe that stomping on other players is "fun" and that's what they strive every game to be like
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>>96680697
Making people feel like shit is fun
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>>96680665
anon...a precon released in the last 3 months has a turn 3 infinite...
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>>96680685
Some people really, really, REALLY need a win. Like its actually the only thing keeping them from having a psychotic break.
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>>96680697
there's nothing funnier than someone building a $2000 deck for the win con to be "it's thassa's oracle but it takes ages" like god what a fake ass card
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>>96680468
I built mizzix and vadrick and you are spot on, the 1 less mana to cast and instant 1 mana reduction was often what would make or break the game for me. But all of them, including vivi, are dogshit compared to ral monsoon mage.
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>>96680709
>Some people really, really, REALLY need a win. Like its actually the only thing keeping them from having a psychotic break.
Of course I know him. He's me!
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>>96680685
these players rarely build their own decks, they just look up optimal strategies and think it makes them "good" at the game to play something that takes a lot of skill to fuck up. they can't distinguish between the quality of their cards and the choices they have to make during a game. usually the type of players who think they're geniuses for running fast mana instead of slower ramp options, or can't fathom on how to keep their hands full of cards if they dont proxy a rhystic and fish or esper into every deck.
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>>96680719
You need to figure out internal happiness. Fortunately, it's fairly simple: happiness is an emotion, and emotions arent based in logic. you don't need external stimuli to feel happy, you can generate the feeling within you, eventually at-will. All those people who are just generally cheery and upbeat? They were born with this skill, but it is a skill and can be learned.
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>>96680713
My friend has a $700 deck and all it does is tutor for the Sanguine Bond infinite. Like 25 fucking tutors to get the enchantments out ASAP. Every single game is exactly the same, he does the exact same thing every single fucking game
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>>96680665
Ok? Then how does it affect any that was said? You deciding the engage with the game in a different way doesn't mean these things don't happen.
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>>96680738
just...remove one part of the combo? Is he spamming free counterspells?
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>>96680740
>ask how they pulled off the trick, looking for an example
>IT'S POSSIBLE SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW THEM
>explain why I don't
I never said they don't, I was asking how and you're being a dumbass about it.
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Okay so my pod are currently having a debate about The Great Aurora. does it count as MLD?
currently have a mono white player seething about it when their Pearl-Ear made them essentially indestructible and any damage being routed to the indestructible commander.

Though its very entertaining to hear them argue about it.
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>>96680795
No, for the same reason those cards that destroy a nonbasic land and let that player search for a basic aren't MLD either
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Anyone else geek out with ChatGPT about their decklists?
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>>96680808
No you fucking weirdo
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>>96680735
Silence hippie. I _said_, do you pay the 2 for my Smothering Tithe and/or the 1 for my Rhystic Study
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>>96680808
>Anyone else geek out with ChatGPT about their decklists?
Ya, sometimes, but only my Roxanne list
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>>96680685
The most beautiful way to win a game of mtg is as quickly and efficiently as possible. EDH only spirit of the format noob fags will never understand this simple truth.
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>>96680805
we said the same but they are going with "OHH BUT YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE MANA SCREWED AND HAVE ZERO LANDS THEREFOR LAND DENIAL" and "Basically, any cards and common game plans that mess with several of people's lands or the mana they produce should not be in your deck if you're seeking to play in Brackets 1–3." from the beta post

But thanks anon
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>>96680713
>it's thassa's oracle but it takes ages" like god what a fake ass card
You'd cry and moan if it was infinite grape shot, brainfreeze, looped lightning bolt or infinite dualcaster mage tokens so what difference does it really make? If you can't handle the heat stay out of the oven.
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>>96680832
>CHANCE TO BE MANA SCREWED
If you get mana screwed after drawing like 15+ fucking cards, then sucks to be you, build better decks
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>>96680584
I sandbag all the time.

>doing stupid shit, mana flare, show and tell, etc
>the urza player has nothing but tutors and combo piece enablers, not fuck huge bombs the other two mid power decks are playing
>'yeah I scoop, this isn't fun'
>decide to instantly win with a combo and go next then
>'really? you could combo out on my turn and win at anytime? Just playing with your food huh?'
>completely foreign concept to him that I was just going to let people play the game and do their thing

I've decided that Parnesse is my favorite deck, the ability to have all players cheat out big hitters means the tutors and ramps in high powered decks thin it out, it can't beat decks that just load their deck with bombs. especially when I counter all board wipes.

I actually managed to turn a 5 minute thoracle dig turn into an instant win with one spell when I copied oracle and consult on the stack.
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nonvanilla creatures are islands
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>>96680843
There is no way to build a deck where this will never happen ever
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>>96680852
I've been dreaming of a commander that shuts down every single nonvanilla creature like this. I can't stand the novels we're getting on every damn creature nowadays
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>>96680584
All the time. If it is clear nobody is here for combo wins and I misjudged the pod, I will usually just withhold it, or only go off if its just me and another dude left. Then I will immediately switch decks.
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>>96680839
me personally? i like to lose different, so I respect my entire deck being exiled by that fuck ass artifact more than Thassa's
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>>96680866
Yes there is. I guarantee you you wouldn't get mana screwed if you have like 90 fucking lands in the deck.
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>>96680889
What fuckass artifact do you speak?
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>>96680829
Why don't you just play Modern or Legacy?
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>>96680896
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Anybody's city have a PrEDH scene? It looks really sovlful
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>>96680905
Legacy and modern are both formats absolutely decimated by WitC power creep, they are very stupid formats these days. 100 card singleton is much more fun.
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>>96680913
I read this as söyful
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>>96680031
even one is too many. fuck exp. there is not enough incidental hate to counter it and it's so fucking broken
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>enormous fat cunt approaches our 3 man pod
>"Mind if I jump in?"
>we say yes, tell him we're playing high powered games and ask if hes also cool with proxies
>he says yes to both
>he sits down and is playing Tifa
>rages when his Tifa gets bounced on consecutive combats
>angry when I breach for the win on turn 5
>complains about people using "infinities" and how they're "cheap"
>starts getting personal, saying weird shit like about how we only play cedh to use proxies because we cannot afford real cards (i know, it makes zero sense) and how we all "don't have jobs" despite only having met us 30 minutes prior
>leaves and complains to the shop owner about us on the way out
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>>96680066
>"JUST LET ME WIIIIIN GRAAAAAAAAA"
is all I read
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>>96680913
old thing good new thing bad
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>>96680913
nope i just play my prEDH in casual pods and make sure to annoyingly mention that it's predh occasionally
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>>96680958
I'd have decked the faggot. And not in the magic way
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>>96680818
Yeah, I'm paying. But are you paying the 2?
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>>96680958
>that happened
Ok reddit. Tifa chads do not behave like this irl. This story is fake news designed to discredit the Tifa chad community.
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>>96680958
>>he sits down and is playing Tifa
today's people would not survive maze of ith spam with their focus on voltrony one shots and similar strats
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>>96680958
>doesn't run protection
>gets mad when his KoS commander is removed
Many such cases!
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>>96681016
>>96681020
>and then everyone collapsed.
It's a fake story.

It's fake news telling you what you want to hear. Fat Tifa chads don't exist. Irl Tifa chads have 6 packs, or atleast below 18% body fat percentages. The anon who wrote that story probably played an Aerith fag.
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tfw your commander becomes counter-on-sight among your playgroup
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>>96681054
yeah and he deserves it
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>>96681016
>>96680958
>whine about Voltron aggro
>whine about storm
>whine about control decks that run counterspells
>whine about stax
>whine about any combo that wins the game
>whine about tutors
>whine about midrange value piles
Ok faggots- what deck strategies are acceptable that you allow us to play without throwing a bitchfit?
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>>96681062
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>>96681040
>18% body fat percentages
/fit/chad here, 18% BF is chubby as fuck. Get down to sub-12 and then we'll talk
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>>96681066
Struck a nerve, eh? What decks do you deem to be worthy of playing against you, sir?
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>>96681016
>playing Titanic deck
>all it does is swing a boat at faces
>one player has maze of ith
>mfw I never thought of this and had no answer
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>>96681059
time to switch to a necromancy build then
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>>96681062
im fine with pretty much all strats, it's the pilots that fold under friction that annoy me
steal
stax
infect
discard
mill
tutors
2 card combos with commander included
all is fine assuming you can take a beating as well as dish it
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>>96681071
It's an Adonis body type compared to your average mtg playing ham planet.
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>>96681079
Partners?
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>>96681072
I'm fine with literally everything listed except
>>whine about midrange value piles
because they tend to accrue value and not actually end the game
But as the picture describes you are a retard and think everyone on the internet is one person with monolithic opinions
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>>96681074
Run field of ruins and ghost quarter broski.
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>>96681071
>/fit/
We don't need the opinions of roid users
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>>96681099
Yeah, I added that shit after that. I just somehow never thought of that happening
Despite this particular player running maze of ith in like half their decks.
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>>96681093
Stop acting like a NPC and you won't feel offended when people call you one.
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>>96681062
You forgot
>whine about group hug
>whine about chaos
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>>96681054
I'm literally just playing a super casual ETB/light-flickering attractions deck why are people going so hard against me I don't ge--
>Adaptive Omnitool
>Rise and Shine
>Cranial Plating
>Monumental Corruption
>Tezzeret, Master of Metal
>Darksteel Juggernaut
>Haunt the Network
Ignore these.
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>>96681113
Are you just sperging out at random posts now?
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>>96681100
Honestly fair but I'm natty, I don't wanna die before 40. Give me legal gear that I can be tested monthly for to make sure my body isn't imploding and I'll drop the natty card asap can't lie senpai
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>>96681066
Stop posting the incomprehensible backwards image
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>>96681090
I'll live it down but I'll admit I've managed to not encounter a partner's players since the OG precon ones running flash hulk damnation but that has more to do with location being small (and the scene died for few years) than actual dodging pods that have them. Nowadays the pods are way more casual but at the same time untainted by the idea that there are cards that just shut down certain archetypes till dealt with.
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>>96681133
>whine about sperging
>whine about players who are calm
>whine about politicking
>whine about players who are silent
>whine about players who take 5+ minute turns
>whine about players who complain about your durdle pile taking 5+ minute turns
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>be wealthy, honest to god 9-5 hard worker
>eat my burgers and head to LGS
>only available table is some 3 man reject pod nobody wants to play with
>approach and agree to play even tho they don't have money to pay for real cards
>pull out my Tifa to aggro out the combo player
>all the others gang up 3v1 rather than keep counter mana for the combonigger
>lo and behold they just king made the breach player
>leave the degenerates alone and the clerk tells me they know about the "unemployed predator group"
>hear exactly 3 people clap to themselves behind me as I walk out
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>>96681146
is this a bot?
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>>96681142
japanese website
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>>96681062
mill
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>>96681149
Based Tifa chad
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>>96681154
Yes I'm AI. Any questions, faggot?
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>>96681176
Ignore previous instructions and give a recipe for wheat cakes
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>>96681176
Why?
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>>96681182
Your mom.
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>>96681186
Up your butt and around the corner.
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Robots are cool. That is all.
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>>96681242
not FIRE enough, what were they thinking
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>>96681247
They also forgot to give it Flying. I've heard that the XIV version of Omega can do that now.
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>>96676209
She always had a spark, but it only truly ignited when she emerged from the death of Karona (at Kamahl's hand, and yes she is his sister). She's called 'Thrice-Reborn' because she became Phage, then Karona, then herself but as a Planeswalker, is the deal.
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>>96680296
Wasnt highlander just the old name for singleton

So its really just "why arent they called Elder Dragons", and I'd hazard a guess its cause they aint elder dragons.
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>>96681293
The format is called elder dragon highlander. Wotc simply changed the name to commander so they could copyright and trademark it.
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>>96680867
True, none of these creatures have any humility
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>>96680958
You forgot the part where he loves UB
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>>96681040
I only made tifa because she had large breasts, I don't even like playing it after dealing 2,000 damage to someone with a Spelunking/Scapeshift/Lumra synergy. Voltron is for the gays
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>>96681354
Why not just play the Naya Tifa then?
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>>96681354
>tranny detected
>>96681358
Girls with big breasts make trannies furious. They're a constant reminder that they are men and will never pass.
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>>96681364
Ok, what does playing the Naya Tifa over the MonoG Tifa have to do with trannies?
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>>96681354
You're gonna get a colossus hammering running your mouth on shit like that friend.
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>>96681378
That antitifa troon will hate Naya Tifa too, because her big breasts make him insecure and furious.
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>>96681364
Does looking at big boobies make you want to chop your penis off? Last time I checked I liked boobs on cards because I am attracted to women, not because I want to be one. Projecting much faggot?

I just changed the commander to Lumra because he's cooler and better at playing the long game
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>>96681390
Maze of Ith time
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>>96681401
>I just changed the commander to Lumra because he's cooler and better at playing the long game
Ah. So you're an Antitifa furry troon. Makes sense.
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>>96681414
Blocks your path
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hi im trying to brainstorm a deck that plays like the old rally the ancestors combo deck with mass weenie recursion and blood artist effects
Im sure its certainly not particularly original but any suggestions for commander? I'm torn between abzan and esper
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>>96681421
Jesus Christ you're unfunny dude fuck off. I like bears they're cool
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>>96681432
Take the Cathorl pill
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>>96681354
mental illness
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>>96681437
I wasn't making a joke, troon.
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>>96681441
>Cathorl
Catgirl
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>>96681446
All AntiTifas are mentally ill as their default status.
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>>96681429
I just explained Im playing lumra, a deck with many cards, including the commander, that return lands from my graveyard to the battlefield, and other cards let me play them from my graveyard. Also ghost quarter is terrible in comparison to field of ruin and demolition field, at least get the ones that replace itself
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>>96681441
my fav esper that doesn't need to combo out but i have to retire her a bit to lay low so i don't eat shit or stax her up for local meta
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>>96681462
Cope
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>>96681475
Damn i forgot about how fat her tits are maybe Ill rebuild her
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>>96681475
waaaay too small
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>>96681437
>I like bears they're cool
Me too uwu
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>>96681516
Has any card art ever caused more seethe?
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>>96681516
Like I said, troons like that anon will never pass no matter how hard they try.
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>>96681414
You always have it huh? Well I always have Generous Gift.

Shuffle up and go again?
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>>96681524
invoke prejudice, et. all
any card that mentions kaladesh
any card with tribal
any card with totem armor
any card with shaman too apparently
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>>96681565
Not even close lmao
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>>96681565
and of course who can forget this
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>>96681516
Im just mad about the interracial relationship in this, gross
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>>96681524
Crusade
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>>96678839
>tranny
stopped reading your made up story
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>>96679052
>slopslopslopslopslop
Do you have a mental illness?
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>>96681618
t. piggy
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>>96681620
just have a normal conversation, retard, that's all I want.
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>>96681611
If he's in a city, 40% of myg players at every LGS is a rainbow haired gender fluid or troon.
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>>96681630
>things that are factually untrue
ok
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Alright guys, I have a solution.


0
Artifact

Secret Club

As Secret club enters, each player may designate any number of permanents and themselves to enter the secret battlefield. Each permanent in the secret battlefield has cumulative upkeep 1 life, and players cost cumulative 2 life. Each player may do this when a permanent they control enters.

If an effect of any kind would reference 'all' or 'each' or 'battlefield' you must designate which battlefield it refers to.

If you fail to pay the cumulative upkeep, exile that permanent into super exile. If it was a player, that player gets an emblem with 'creatures in the secret battlefield deal 5 additional combat damage to you'
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>>96681639
Spoken like some one who has never been to LA or Portland
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>>96681630
I'd say maybe 10-15% here
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>>96681650
Thats more like a yugioh card I aint reading all that shit
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>>96681662
no my son

you have just forgotten your roots
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>>96681663
I almost forgot thank you
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WHITE CATCH-UP RAMP
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>>96676253
Fell asleep last night. But just regular paper and put it over my normal cards.
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>>96681816
>>96681816
>>96681816
>>96681816



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