>Previous thread:>>96642268>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg>Hobby Challenge theme for Octoberhttps://strawpoll.com/GPgVYBPYEna/results >TQWhat is your favourite part of working with miniatures?
>>96676932>TQThe moment I use my wash and it suddenly starts to look actually decent.
>>96676932When I paint the eyes and it becomes alive
>>96676932>TQEating the left over bits and sprues.
>>96676932>What is your favourite part of working with miniatures?Painting and collecting. I barely play, I hate assembly but watching them get better over time on my shelf is comfy.Really slowing down and learning to enjoy that part of the hobby saved it for me when edition changes and flakey opponents were making my head spin. Still not a great painter but loving it.
>>96676932>TQSprinkling in my armies incredibly obscure references to secret societies and cults that not a soul that's alive could understand.
>>96676932>TQBest part is building and customizing the miniatures and/or bases. It makes both painting and creating fluff easier as you already have a general concept.Speaking of building, pic related is my October project. Looking forward to see what you guys are doing.
>>96676932>What is your favourite part of working with miniatures?Improvising and scratchbuild cookie cutter models to make them into something unique. I especually like taking models from different scales to model as different things - smaller scale models to use as tiny gnomes and fae, getting cheap plastic animals like toads, snakes and dinosaurs to use as mounts, or larger scale models to make ogres, ettins and giants. The cheap plastic Tehnolog 54mm figures of orcs and barbarians are particularly good for using as giant-kin in 28mm scale wargaming and RPGs.
>>96676932>TQI exclusively collect armies I was inspired to buy by porn or coomer art so for me it's browsing lewd shit for inspiration followed by kitbashing and converting. I find basing and painting bases' trims very enjoyable as well.
>>96677354It's crazy to see grown men still opening brag about how they watch porn in 2025. It's not 1993 anymore where people think it's awesome bro you enjoy nudie mags and porno haha everyone does it bro. Nowadays we all know the negative effects and how it's ran by Jews, and it's a very pathetic and embarrassing vice.
>>96677725>Unironically getting mad over randoms on a Japanese cormorant fishing forum mentioning pornThis is your brain on puritanism.
>>96676932>TQWhen a conversion idea comes together after initial frustration and the painting phase where the models look terrible because of the lack of washes, highlights etc.
>>96677725I personally really dislike how insistent coomers are on your participation in their edging. They have to saturate unrelated topics with their porn obsession. Personally I don't really recognise most of what is depicted in porn nowadays as even sexual, it's just a spectacle. If you were just whacking it occasionally to something tasteful where the woman(s) don't seem like they areon the verge of nervous breakdown and keep it to yourself, no one would care. Instead I need to know that you are anxious-horny all the time because computer melted brain.
>>96677767See>>96677787You're just enacting a pathology, an inappropriate tic. When you see it you might cut down a little.
>>96677787>>96677791Lmao find yourself some safe space.
>>96677767>>96677791Look how he lashes out and copes when you make him look in the mirror
>>96677832Seriously, I don't have to be there when he nuts. He's not oppressed when people say "bro can you put your wang away for 5 mins of wargames discussion?"
>>96677864That is the type of guy that makes it embarrassing to admit you play traditional games in real life, because people think of guys like him
>>96677929Again, I don't care if people smoke csnnabis or eat food colouring disguised as breakfast or even watch boring postmodernist cartoons aimed at adults, just go to the fucking forum for those things (aka Reddit) because I'm all about the miniatures, mayne. I used to engage in every retarded vice there is but together they absolutely dull the intellect. Toy soldiers is one of the more creative silly distractions in the world today. Do I want the WGA Einherjar or am I just making an impulse buy because I'm grumpy and my tooth hurts?
>>96677943>I used to engage in every retarded vice there is but together they absolutely dull the intellect>I used toYou generated 10 posts raging and seething over some random retard's joke.
>>96677972>The Pivot
>coomer posts about how he goons to his minis as his favorite part of the hobby>retards can't help but get angry at him all the while pretending they are not seething about itKek. Just ignore him.
>>96678003The funny part is the coombrain actually responded to TQ and posted official game art. Meanwhile you angry mob of one posted a screencap from plebbit.
>>96678074>The Tautology
>>96678087>ReframingOften people with ADHD or other disorders will cause conflict because it gives them dopamine, like you're doing now.
Well this thread is off to a great start already.To get it back on track, anyone have any experience with WGA minis? I was hoping to buy their Romans to use in Midgard and Oathmark.I would really appreciate any input you guys might have.
>>96678125You almost nailed it. Schizo was angry about the Dark Age army builder, not the Romans.
>>96678093Your just making it funnier. >>96678125I got some WGA stuff. They are middling quality. I believe their roman stuff is lower quality though. Have you thought about Victrix? They are extremely high quality at a good price.
>>96678125I have limited knowledge of their miniatures since I have only experience with two kits - conquistadors and afghans and sadly I cannot recommend them. The only upside of wga romans is having the entire kit in a single type of armor, otherwise they are inferior to competition in almost every metric.
>>96678125>>96678136>>96678137You're so bad at this. The coomer cries out as he jizzes at your lgs>>96678136I happen to love the Dark Age Army builder. Not many sets give you 48 figures out the gate, 12 I will build as Limitanei, 12 as Saxon warband and 24 as Goths, all for Lion Rampant.
>>96678125I've got eisenkern stormtroopers, very crisp sculpts, but technically they were not designed by WGA.
>>96678125Their Quar are good, at least the basic Coftyran and Crusader Riflemen, I haven't gotten any of the other kits yet
>Deathly afraid of boobsWhat causes this? Tylenol?
>>96679103I love boobs, but I wouldn't want all my minis displaying them like some playboy model
>>96678841Quar are literally muppets they are hard to fuck up in fact even you could open paint and doodle quar fanart right now.Thats a huge upside.
>>96677354Based. I kinda just use it as base, which is what often vexes me. Basing.
>>96678136The dark age army builder looks like an updated dark age warriors from GBP, but bulk scale maille is more useful.
>>96678448WGAs sci-fi stuff (all the not!40k and star grave adjacent shit) is generally well regarded. people were bitching about their historicals, which aren't on that level.
>>96679229I think the grognards, which are their most popular sci-fi set was sculpted by Bob Naismith l, who made some of the most iconic GW designs. Their other sculptors seem to be gooks, who are decent, but not up to the standards of victrix or Perry. However, we must give wga credit for being committed to modular and interchangeable bits.
>>96679111Tbh tittymodels are almost a separate subject because they have a long standing in the hobby.>I wouldn't take tittymodels to a tournament>nor show them to little kidsI have a few Reaper models in titty territory. There is no judgement as they are a traditional gaming gentleman bachelor's basement accountrement. But that's different to 1. Turning everything into a porn meme and 2. Whacking it to said tittymodels.
ass > tits
>>96678125WGA are the definition of mid. Their Romans are their absolute worst sculpts though, I would never buy them when Victrix Romans are so damn good and cost less
>>96679305Play games with tittymodels already in itProblem solved
>>96679360No.
>>96679320There is actually a lot of research correlation ass preferences with IQ, which is why European countries and Japan prefer breasts and USA, Africa, India, etc. all overwhelmingly prefer ass.
>>96679366And israel prefers feet.
>>96679371Truly evil.
>>96679275I generally have had a great run with WGA (except their Werewolves). Their strike rate isn't bad for a company with 99 kits in circulation. At least they improve moulds. Just want to see some gaps in some ranges filled out before I go all in.If I'm being honest my favourite sci fi kits are North Star. Generic, some soft detail but just a joy to clean up and put together. Warlord kits are usually breezy too. If it's GW level fiddly I'm out because I want to get to painting them and there is already a lot of dry fitting and cleaning.
>>96679360No.>>96679352Debunked
>>96679320How do you titfuck an ass?>>96679360This. Pic related made me buy into Carnevale and I never regretted that.
>>96679352>>>/tg/hwg
>>96679395>How do you titfuck an ass?Hotdog them cheeks
>>96679387>debunked Well the proof is in the pudding. I'll let the models speak for themselves
>>96679395You hotdog it you goober.
>>96679411Sadly they're a pain in the ass to get in the USA. I'm not paying $20 on shipping.
>>96679411Obsessed.
>>96679437But correct.Fuck off shill.
>>96679437So you have no actual rebuttal? As I suspected
>>96679445Seething.>>96679449What kind of rebuttal do you expect? They look good on any other picture and comparison you can find on the Internet. They are definitely worse than Victrix tho.
>>96679462>They are definitely worse than Victrix thoSo if we are in agreement why are you trying so hard to argue? Not everything has to be an argument mate, you should really lay off the internet
>>96679483>So if we are in agreementFirst of all, we are not. I do not agree with discussing historical kits here if not in the context of a specific alternative wargame. Secondly, we know who you are, Schizo-kun. Your silly crusade against WGA because of yet another Ameridumb civil-war is simply pathetic. Third of all, WGA's Late Romans are a decent kit of good quality and one shitty comparison you spam here won't change that when everyone else seems to be happy with that kit. If I could go back in time and buy them instead of the Gripping Beast kits, I wouldn't think twice.
>>96679229I've only got a couple things from them, but the French infantry is my favorite.i mostly use them for kitbashing though, so maybe I'm not as likely to care about accuracy
>>96679529>more pointless babble
>>96679529>I do not agree with discussing historical kits here if not in the context of a specific alternative wargame.Legit retard behavior.
£3 in Home Bargains I couldn't resist.This is the 12" tall one, I would prefer the 7" one to be honest.I did see an anon make a crashed one into terrain
>>96680692>I did see an anon make a crashed one into terrainThat's a neat idea. Since the movie flopped they were cheap and pretty much everywhere when Stargrave came out. I've seen the ships and vehicles make appearances as terrain pieces as well. They never really arrived in the bargain bins around here, sadly. Kind of jelly.
>>96679395>How do you titfuck an ass?It's called hotdogging, and it's an artform.
>>96680692For that cheap I'm sure it's find some use for it.
>>96680562Normally, I'd agree. But after seeing what happened to the last few threads and the K-47 thread, fuck the autists from /hwg/. Keep them over there.
>>96681579Your meltdowns have done more damage to this general than anything the histfags have ever posted
>>96681582NTA.
>>96682387
I've been invited to play Turnip28 but don't have any Napoleanic minis. This is my current WIP using what I've got on hand
>>96682408Very nicely done, seems to fit the aesthetic very well. Turnip28 is pretty faggy, but personally I'd be willing to play almost anything if a friend really wanted to
>>96682427nta, but why do you consider it to be faggy? Not trying to defend the game or anything, just curious. I have yet to even play a single game of Turnip28. I recently started getting back into tabletop shit and figured the game would be a good place to start. Low model count, potentially super low cost, and simple rules means that I can pretty easily make two armies and strong arm my non-wargaming friends into playing with me
>>9668268828 has come to have a specific meaning in alternative wargames. The first half will all sound good then it will take a distinctly strange turn…
>>96682717>you like the wrong thingsYou're just like them
>>96680562Fuck off to /hwg/. Stay in your autistic containment hell you made for yourselves.
>>96682717Wait, wait, wait. I fell down a whole rabbit hole looking into this. So this guy, ierthling, who made the statement in your post, made a dumb little apple picking non-combat tabletop game for his 4 year old kid that was featured in one of the issues for 28-mag. 28-mag is a collection of free, online magazines focusing on wargaming, and specifically, the artistic side of wargaming. And that guy, who had such a tiny part in a side issue of a free online magazine tangentially related to Turnip28, said some bog-standard pro lgbt shit as part of his part in that singular side issue? Do I have that right? What an absolute steaming pile of nothing burger. I'd be mad at you for wasting my time, but I actually found some pretty sweet artists while scrolling through some of the other issues of the magazine
>>96682717>Yet another episode of an Ameridumb trying to make the thread a part of their yet another socio-cultural civil warIt's all so tiresome.
>>96682717>hobby about toy soldiers>this pretentious drivelThis guy is a kissless virgin who has nothing else going on in his life. Just because this potato is puking it up all over the internet doesn't mean it is true.The 28 thing exists because people played 54mm games with 28mm minis. No need for a secon terrain collection or getting into a different scale. Wow. Mistery solved.
>>96683109"Matt" can go and sit on a fireblade. I have inclusivity-fatigue. Girls don't play wargaming because they don't give a fuck, not because the bullied up nerds that ended up in their own little escapism niche are part of a secret patriarchy cabal or some shit. I'm tired of these conspiracy retards and don't want anything to do with their delulu BS: it's never enough with them, you can never never win. Never. Every anon that called off this senseless tirade is right of mind and a good fellow.
>>96678100And your schizo rant about gooners is relevant to awg... How? Go back to your containment board retard
To try to pivot towards something that isn't culture war schizo bullshit...Has anyone played Fallout Warfare? It was a set of skirmish rules released alongside Fallout Tactics, and came with cut out paper minis to photocopy.Might ask my boyfriend to play it with me at the flgs. Pretty sure the local library does card printing. Might be fun, might be mid, we will see.
>>96676932>What is your favourite part of working with miniatures?Kit bashing and converting, these guys were a test of using WGA cannon fodder bodies with Stargrave spares.I'm doing a few rising undead markers for Halloween, how long do I have to leave superglue and DIY filler to dry before I can spray prime it?
>>96677354I've got coomer minis, but a coomer army? Where does one find such treasure?>>96677725Fellate thyself in purgatory, neopuritan scum
>>96678100Pure schizoid content, prime example of Puritan brainrot.>>96683301>Has anyone played Fallout Warfare? It was a set of skirmish rules released alongside Fallout TacticsIt was released quite long time before Tactics and it had some traction here. I never played it but I remember Anons here praising it for fun gameplay and heavy focus on narrative. 2-players starter costs only ~60EUR nowadays and there are TONS of 3D printing files for it.
>>96682387>>96682398I'm not sure how I feel about Courts honestly. Their infantry is underwhelming but brutes look dope.
>>96683325I think your confusing it for wasteland warfare, which came way after tactics. Fallout Warfare is free and you can find it online.
>>96683319>>96683325>you have to view / listen to my wankfodder or you're a square maaanNohttps://youtu.be/Z14nNqmEiTo?si=QI-woXkF-OIIscZmAnybody bought the k47 box yet?
>>96682387BLUE BOARD
>>96683125>Girls don't play wargaming because they don't give a fuckThis. And its is common knowledge that some hobbies are just not interesting to the majority of girls. No more needs to be said about it. "Matt" and all those other retards can create inclusive games all day long, i wont play those, and "girls" wont play those either (because the later dont play games at all).All this drama about some guys trying to attract girls to their smelly hobby basements.
>>9668331624h if you want to play it safe and are in no hurry.
>>96683406Miniatures are not interesting to the majority of boys either.
Can I be honest with you lads.I am not so much scared of kitbashing as I just enjoy owning a particular set of miniatures. So if I buy a 5-man sprue of say Wargames Atlantic Halflings, rather than kitbashing them I use the sprue to make the most I can from it. For example one as Robin Hood, one as a knight with the most armoured parts, one as a slinger, one as a thief.Same goes for single metal piece miniatures, I am definitely not lopping a head off.It's a little different when they're scrap in the first place with missing parts.
I'm actually kinda hyped
>>96683581I started to buy metal monopose minis because I feel almost autistic need to magnetize all my miniatures - even the baseline infantry.>>96683664I'm not letting myself feel anything about this game until I see prices and listbuilding rules.
>>96683319>Fellate thyself in purgatory, neopuritan scum
>>96683673>until I see prices and listbuilding rules.Thats fair. Prices in particular.I'm less bothered by the rules, because the Zerg in particular will work for pretty much every other game that requires some kind of alien/monster horde
>>96683397Cope. I've never posted any here, but I appreciate them when I see them>>96683688>"y-you le REDDIT JACK"Considering reddit is the home of the neopuritan movement, and /tg/ has a history of cheesecake so long that its lost on the mists if 404, your clearly looking in the mirror.>>96683581It's a cool way to do an adventuring party for small solo games, or warband games. Personally I'm more into larger units, but I've got a few warbands/squads of converted plastics and metals about too. Old Malifaux minis are great for grimdark/baroque sci-fi teams.
>>96683710I never played Starcraft since I was always more of a fantasy/historical guy but now that I look at factions I actually like all of them aesthetic-wise. What games/media should I consoom to hype myself up?
>>96682688>why do you consider it faggy One look at it's creator should tell you all you need to know
>>96683735>grown ass man unironically using the term "cheesecake"
>>96682688>>96683001/awg/ have some very, very obnoxious spergs who disdain anything connected to Turnip28, 28-adjacent, blanchitzu, etc. They will rant and rave about how fake and gay it is over nothing.
>>96683811To be fair I have played it and found it very boring. Somethingakin to pushingminis at each other and making fighty noises. But that's my take, others may have different opinions.>>96683779>oldfag on /tg/ using recognised /tg/ slangYes. Now off you go, back home.
>>96683752Holy fuck lmfao, that settles that
>>96683745If you never played Starcraft, i guess there is nothing wrong by playing SC1+Brood War and the 2nd part. You should be able to get them fairly cheap. The campaigns are good (and i'm aware that the 2nd is considered weaker, but still worth a playthrough i think).
>>96683938Its only recognised by retards.
Does anyone know of alternative to these? Alien bug hordes? Something cheaper perhaps? I'm trying to play test the early rough draft of my Helldivers 2 ripoff game. I've never bought from Wargames Atlantic before and id rather not since they get some bad reviews here on /tg/. All the actual product reviews say these are incredibly bad to assemble as well, even the positive reviews.
>>96683752>based anachronist>gf in shotI literally look like this and dress like this. Nigga better watch yo back because the East Side Penny Farthing Gang don't play, fool
>>96684015I'm the opposite of a WGA hater and these guys always looked a bit off to me.
>>96684015Over a dollar per mini for bug hordes, especially when half the box is single piece miniature bugs, is absolutely ludicrous pricing.
>>96684015>id rather not since they get some bad reviews here on /tg/Lol, lmao.
>>96684046What?
>>96684015see >>96683664 (if you can wait a bit until they release)Besides that, and if you just want "hordes", check ebay for the small Tyranid sprues from the 40k starter sets. You can sometimes get them for less than 1€ per miniature, bringing them just in line with all the other plastic options. Yes, GW, 40k yadayadayada.. Its cheap alien "horde" monsters regardless.Soon WGA will release the plastic sets from the Damned KS campaign, one set includes "dogs" that are more like alien monsters too. Not bugs tho. There are not many other options, for cheap horde-like swarm aliens. Maybe some fantasy sets got something you like the look of?Some guy posted on /WIP/ about his Tyranid army project, using some sort of plastic spiders in various sizes.And the obvious advise: Printing
>>96684015You could try one of the sci-fi Zombicides, I don't know if they're still in production though or what the price per model would break down to and only some of the aliens are particularly bug-like but they tend to have a ton of monsters in a single box and they're not multi-part so they should in theory be cheaper.
>>96684022I have some, they're a bit of a pain to glue together, plus if you want to base them you need 50mm minimum.
Why did Beyond the Gates of Antares never gain traction? I just played a game with an old grog and it was incredible
>>96684080Thats actually some good advise.The games should be OOP by now, but you can often find them with good discounts. (I would wait for black friday with board game purchases, they tend to go very low).Endure the Stars would be another good one to look out for, it also comes with 40-ish monster miniatures. https://www.gameslore.com/acatalog/PR-Endure-The-Stars-Board-Game-Version-15.html#SID=472?utm_source=BoardGamePrices.co.uk&utm_medium=pricecomparison&utm_campaign=bgp
>>96684105No clue really. I have the rulebook, and it seems to be great, mechanically. I guess the factions are just too generic?
>>96684105Lack of marketing is my guess. Nice enough miniatures, good setting, fine rules. It has its own style. But it was buried deep into Warlord's product catalogue before sunsetted off to Skytrex where it has probably like one guy working part-time developing it.
>>96684116I wouldn't say they're generic, they're more of an aquired taste.
>>96684063Relying on /tg/'s opinion on anything is the silliest thing you can do, no matter the game since /tg/ doesn't play any. 99% of opinions here are just copy-pasted shitposts based on memes. It's like following virgin's opinion on sex.
>>96684116>too generic Thats not a good argument at all, because they are 1. Not generic, and 2. 40k exploded in popularity once they made all the factions more generic with 8th edition
>>96684015This guy beat me to it >>96684112 I got the Endure the Stars revised 1.5 edition for like £20I got Star Saga for £20 too
>>96684148>40k exploded in popularity once they made all the factions more generic with 8th editionRetarded argument. GW factions are distinctive in lore and aesthetic.
Mantic makes some weird bug guys, Nightstalkers I think they're called>>96683999>Only retards know the word "cheesecake"You should try jerking off before posting, you're a mess
>>96684148>>96684133Pic related starter set had good value, but just looked bland. Its guys in red with power armour and drones vs guys in white in power armour and drones. The game actually has interesting and unique miniatures and factions, but Warlords fail was to make the most generic ones in plastic, and not the interesting stuff, and they never fully commited to the game, so most of the things were never made in plastic. (K47 will share this fate sadly.)The fact that the interesting stuff in resin and metal was (and still is) very expensive does not help the game either.
>>96684166>GW factions are distinctive in lore and aestheticSo are Antares factions
>>966841055€ per metal miniature, simple as thatAlso:https://eu.warlordgames.com/products/algoryn-ai-heavy-support-team-with-x-howitzer(39€)https://eu.warlordgames.com/products/algoryn-mag-mortar(44€)VShttps://www.warhammer.com/en-NL/shop/astra-militarum-field-ordnance-battery-2023(44€)The GW set comes with two guns, at almost the same price of one of the Warlord GoA guns, and is plastic. Its quite a feat to make miniatures more expensive than GW, but ultimately, building an army in GoA is fucking expensive as a result.It does not help that i think the mag mortar looks awesome. I'm not spending that much on a metal/resin kit with 3 miniatures.
>>96684247Apparently not enough for anyone but you to care. I understand you like the game and we all have dead games we love here but not you are being obtuse and dumb on purpose.
>>96684247Whats the difference between the humanoid red guys with hover tanks, and the humanoid white guys with hover tanks?
>>96684207Tbqh they did put Ghar in the original starter, but I guess they were too different(and didn't even include any of the outcast infantry)
>>96684116>>96684148At a glance they looked like 3rd party alternatives to halo and mass effect, devoid of any oomf to help them stand out.
>>96683581A WGA sprue is only like a fiver + postage lad, you could just do both
>>96684321They have some really cool designs in there. Most of the Freeborn stuff is cool, most of the Isorians are cool.Boromite have some awesome minis as well.https://eu.warlordgames.com/products/boromite-hauler
>>96684333Yeah, but they were'nt the poster boys. Instead Warlord decided that Panhuman Concord should be the one selling the game, the guys looking like rejected skins from Halo multiplayer
>>96684333>$160 ausbux for a single tank-sized resin vehicleOh ok that's the reason no one wants this.
>>96684346Doesn't toothpaste cost like 50 dollarydoos down there?
>>96684354>Doesn't toothpaste cost like 50 dollarydoos down there?$3-$4 for a normal tube.For $158 ausbux I can get my hands on a Baneblade from GW. When GW is cheaper and offering you more plastic for your buck, you have fucked up.
>>96684346Prison tax for convicts
>>96684273You could make that same vague generalization about literally anything to make them sound similar
I wish more Concord stuff was available for cheap, I use them as basic infantry for one of my homebrew sci-fi settings factions.
>>96684375That's a direct translation of their price from Warlord Games, so it's not taking into account import taxes or tariffs that we have. It would actually be more expensive if delivered here.
>>96684371Where are you looking at? Skytrex lists it as £37.50, which is expensive, but not that expensive, 75 dollarydoos + shipping (18) + import fees(your firstborn koala)
>>96684371Yeah, the price of Antares is crazy. Its what put me off buying any of their cool stuff years back. Don't get me wrong, I liked the cool hover tanks and stuff, but they made gw look cheap.
>>96684333>€78 for a metal/reshit miniThat's a very decently looking paperweight you have there. It doesn't matter how good the game is and how beautiful the minis are, wargaming is about marketing for almost 20 years now. Warlord refuses to acknowledge that, refusing to support their games in any meaningful way on top of that. I still remember how they released the steaming pile of shit the SPQR was. They got bashed by everyone so they pulled their shit together and released the Revised edition - a solid, enjoyable game not only by Warlord's standards but good enough to compete with well-known and praised competitors. They never followed-up with any extra releases, letting the game simply die.That's not only Warlord's sin though. This is how 95% of miniature wargaming companies operate. No wonder people prefer to play Mordheim, that's dead for 20 years now when many alternative wargames are walking corpses at this point. Don't even get me started on botique-tier prices, constantly 'out of stock' products and lack of any communication with the playerbase.
>>96684401I mainly buy them during sales.
>>96684333>Nid scales>Nid ring-muscle windows>Nid Vent chimney thingies>Nid ocean mammal body chapeWhy is the tyranid design book this powerful? Use any two of those together and you get not!nids.Which is probably why they aren't the poster boys
>>96684413You can't just call any insectoid/exoskeleton "Nid", you philistine. At least call it "Giger", like the cool nerds do.
>>96684207>So are Antares factions>>96684247 pic unrelated then
>>96684376look at this pic >>96684207 and tell me again that they do not look similar. Warlord just fucked up by making the two most bland factions their "posterboys", while some of the cool stuff never got plastic models.
>>96684425I will call this a scaleless nid and are powerless to stop it
>>96684465Yes, but I will call you a cockwaffle for it.
>tfw I got a Ghar army for free and a whole Freeborn army for £10 with random extra bits
>>96684273Green Panhuman Concord are more technologically advanced and comopolitan. All of their basic troopers sport plasma crabines and even this starter force includes light combat drones. You can also see some other panhuman variants in their army, like more ogre-like assault troopers. Culturally they are hedonistic, leaving most of the decisionmaking to iMtel machine intelligence that permeates their whole society. Their civilization is one of the third largest ones.Red guys are Algoryn. Practically all of their soldiers are the same panhuman morph from their founding planet of Algor. They are head taller than regular humans and spiky. Their technology is moderately advanced, but for their base troops they favour old fashioned, rugged and peimitive mag-rifles and reflex armour. Only their elite troops and experimental vehicles have plasma weapons. Thanks to their stronger physiology they are still roughly equivalent to their Concord counterparts. Culturally Algoryn is very militaristic and their society is built around a caste system. Leading caste consists of generals and other such positions, most of the soldiers come from the soldier caste and worker caste just works. Their local space empire consists of hundreds of worlds. Other panhumans and even aliens are included, but for the most part they don't took part of the army and are just under the "protection" of Algoryn.
>>96684425Giger is inherently humanlike and sexual though...
>>96684699So about as accurate, you just sound more pseudointellectual than consumerist fanboy when you say it.
>>96684749No, its not close to accurate. Neither is nid. I'd call that ship insectiod.
>>96684784Yes, that's my point. Calling everything 'nid' just makes disservice to tyranids, that have a fairly distinct style in themselves.
I wanna get some small 15mm armies of 15-30 minis and one or two vehicle sized things, because I don't have much space and with 28mm I can only do smaller scale skirmish games. But then I'd also have to make new sets of terrain for 15mm which means double amount of work...
>>96684403Is that pic a Nagatoro reference?
>>96684810And calling it giger was just as wrong was my point.
>>96684817That's what "as accurate" stood there for, friend.
>>96684823>You can't just call any insectoid/exoskeleton "Nid", you philistine. At least call it "Giger", like the cool nerds doUh huh. Which you never said in the post in replied to friend. Reading this post it clearly shows you telling him to call it giger. Learn to express your ideas in a non confusing ways.
>>96684841Ah, my ever pedantic besserwisser, I was referring the post here >>96684749Silly me, thinking we were talking about post directed to you and not those in separate discussion. My bad.
>>96684105Warlords lack of marketing. It's a big Sci-fi setting. They had books with short stories, ongoing fictione etc, but only about a dozenn high quality illustrations. Think about 40k. That game lives on the art. It's what makes your imagination stir. Warlord treated it like a historical game "Here are romans, yo!" works if everybody knows what that is already. "Here's some Algoryn!" doesn't mean anything to anybody who hasn't read a novel first unless they got a ton of great art communicate those ideas.
>>96685153>Art? In this economy? Do you realize we have to start and kill three separate licenced games in this quarter?
>>96685180I guess. They had to put their staff on furlough during covid and that is also when they moved GoA over to Skytrex.
>>96684484Either you're still posting about a find from 2023, which is kind of weird or you're reposting someone else's find from 2023, which is also weird but in a different way. Which is it any why?
Got some free Rangers with a Warlord order. Anyone know of a low unit count WW2 skirmish game?
>>96684015Its almost halloween, I am sure you will be able to find some suitable spider decorations for cheap.
>>96685657Five men in Normandy.Could also do Black Ops in ww2 or ...Grey for now has a game that is about sneaking around, but forgot the name of it.
>>96685657>>96685688>Grey for now has a game that is about sneaking around, but forgot the name of it.https://greyfornow.com/en-eu/collections/02-hundred-hoursIt's about Nightraids. That was it.
>>96684015reaper has a ton of nice spider sculpts. Just pick some in bones and they should be fairly cheap. Or you could just use one of their actual aliens.
>>96685688>Five men in Normandy.Found it, thanks for sharing.>>96685712That looks dope, I'll have to give it a better gander. THanks for sharing homie.
>>96684015I'd say print or get those cheap 2nd hand nid sprues as another anon said.
Why is everyone so ornery this weekend? Quit bickering and post your spooky stuff.
>>96685822It's the weather getting into these old bones, burrrr
>>96683581Cute lad. Is it yours? Who's the maker?
>>96684912>at least call it giger>no no no i totally ment it dosen't fit the description as wellK.
>>96685608He's posting a find from 2023 because it's was a really good deal on a Gates of Antares army and we're discussing Gates of Antares which is a really rare topic. Plus this anon loves to share his meetings, find and bargain bins anyway. Good on him, post-Covid is a hellish world of scalpers and hustlers trying to sell their *oot rare* 30yo shit that should be given for free to kids as if it was the 8th Wonder of the World. I'm glad he manages to catch and share a glimpse of a long gone past.
>>96685608>>96685941I do paint stuff too but I don't want to "Duane" myself by posting too much of it here.I mean Louise Suggers, Simpsom, Mammoth Miniatures guy all posted on 4chan at some point but I don't feel it's as permissable now.
>>96685941I think its odder than that, it came up recently again as well and isn't posted as >hey I remember getting a good deal on gates of antareees Its posted as an in the moment find each time.
>>96685964>>96685941>>96685608>One strategy to gradually make online forums less attractive to their users involves introducing content that appears genuine but is ultimately meaningless, thereby diluting the boards' message and reducing their sense of community.Radicalize yourselves against feds, poos and all the other paid posters
>>96685962Yeah, any post might lead to some schizo doxxing you and you might end up forever labeled as "that guy from 4chan".
>>96686017>>96685962Public shaming stopped being effective in the last few years, its really easy, just don't be ashamed. No one gives a shit if you post on 4chan anymore.
>>96686034>just be cringe, surely it won't bite you back in the future?I'm not a soulless golem and the Internet never forgets, but you do you.
>>96686092>I'm cowed by the policeman in my dead>ur a souless golem lmaoIts sad the panopticon is this effective.
>>96686111I don't give a shit about le policeman in the present, I live in a free country. But if you are a human being, you care about public opinion about you. But I guess you watched the first 30 mins of American Psycho and thought that was supposed to be a role model. And who knows about the future. Being a cringelord in the peresent might cost you in the future in way you can't even imagine as of yet.
>>96685781Check out Five men at Kursk too, which essentially is the 2nd edition.
>>96686175>Five men at KurskWould you recommend it over Normandy?
>>96685987Yeah it's called sliding a thread and you don't do that by reposting your image every 4 months. I do agree what you point out exists: it's in full force at /pol/ where you can really feel the difference in BBC spam between a Jewish holiday and an Israel being bombed day.1. There's nothing to slide here. 2. You have maybe two conventions a year so obviously anon will be limited in what he can share.
>>96686257Well you'll have better bangs for your bucks in Kursk but the cider is definitely better in Normandy.
>>96686326Homie this went so far over my head I don't even know if you're making a joke or what
>>96686257Directly from the game author himself
>>96686257Depends. Normandy gives more character to your guys but Kursk let's you play bigger games.
>>96685962No they didn't
>>96686883Dope, thanks. Normandy it is.>>96686890I'm more interested in small tight games, so Normandy seems like the one for me.
>>96684811Natural features are universal. That hill will be a hill at any scale.
>>96685796I have this guy's orks and really enjoyed painting them. I wish more sculptors would do retro-inspired riffs on old models instead of attempting straight copies.
>>96687311Ehhhhh.... my first hills where way too small for 28mm. They work fine for 2 and 6mm though, and do okay fir 10mm.
>>96684105Two of the factions were butt ugly martians and everyone else was just humans in power armor, and not cool power armor. No staying power in its imagery.
>>96688389the sloping hills like on the left were how 3rd edition 40k modelled difficult terrain as per the BRB. Not something that blocks line of sight obviously, but you could still use it in your games.
>>96688418Warhammer 40k:Space Marines>humans in power armor IG>humans without power armor Eldar>humanoids in power armor Orks>humanoids in power armor Votann >Humans in power armor Chaos>Humans in power armor Necrons >Humanoids in power armor Tyranids>Generic mandatory space bug faction You can make these same generalizations about any setting.
>>96688418The game was moving so slowly they didn't even get far enough to release plastic models for all the basic troops before it got put into stasis.Aside from the odd Alien Bounty Hunter like Hukk the Vorl were an alien menace that was teased since the first rulebook. We only ever got and stl file for DIY printing for that though. And the guys using biotech also had domesticated aliens in their army list.
>>96686299People justpostthe ssme thing over and over because that's what autists do. I don't imagine the people posting here have a lot going on
I think Antares would have been a big hit of it allowed for mini agnostic armies in addition to the proprietary ones
Has anybody played the official wargames Atlantic death fields game? How is it in its current state.
Start of the 24st North Haverbrook Horseless Dragoon Regiment
>>96688987Nice. I thought they were frog people at first.
>>96688987Good shade of gray.
>>96688494The difference is that there is a ton of good art,making all those dudes in power armour look very cool
>>96689755Debatable, but there sure is ton of it.
>>96688494>EldarIt's not power armour, it's mesh/wraithplate>OrksOnly a select few have power armour, the rest have t-shirts or scrap>NecronsMetal skeletons
>>96688494You could, but if you do it like that you'll be incorrect.
>>96688418Ghar were peak butt ugly martians though.Ii would get some if they were not so ridiculously expensive.
Are there cheap alien swarms in other scales like 1/72 ?
>>96690162If you print them.
>>96690143Try ebay. Seems like a lot of people are selling those off since they were in the starter sets and the game's current state is limbo.
>>96690143If Warlord would give me a plastic Isorian army, i would play the game. I also noticed, that the studio pictures and paintjobs for the Antares miniatures are pretty much excellent. Especially comapred with some of their the paintjobs for newer releases.
>>96689994>It's not power armour, it's blablablaNobody cares, nerd. It's all power armour with a different coat of paint.
>>96690162Depends on what you mean/ what you are looking for. 1/72 is a scale that does have a surprising amount of stuff if you look in the right place. But it gets really easy to find cool sci-fi stuff in 15mm and since we are talking aliens the size of the models doesn't matter too much.Ral Partha and Khurasan have a ton of 15sci-fi stuff. Khurasan also has 20mm or 1/72 aliens but they are not really swarms so much as deser dwelling blue aliens in power armor. Only problem is that they don't sell to the EU anymore since the taxation fuckery started.>pic related, it some khurasan insect dudes that would make a nice swarm
>>96688987Quar spotted
>>96690246>Only problem is that they don't sell to the EU anymore since the taxation fuckery started.I am still made. They have so many cool shit
>>96690470*mad
>>96688987Very nice.
>>96679437Several of those are mine, other people then proceeded to use the same image I got off LeadAdventure.
>>96676932How do you overcome the pool of "cool stuff that has been recently aggressively marketed to you?"I always feel the pull of these trending games, things like Armoured Clash and Konflikt 47 and sometimes I even buy a small amount of minis to add to the "agnostic" pile... but I always sit on that desire to just buy, buy, buy now and it's always one of a few things:>you discover they make a miniature or faction you dislike a lot intrinsic to the game (really not big on the Vogelspinne for some reason)>you discover the "big" starter set has partial rules and not the whole thing, and there are unit cards or some other doodad in a third purchase>weird materials like half resin or pvc, low quality, stingy on the sceneryThanks for ignoring my blogpost
>>96688987Well done. Painterly too, not just agraxed, which I would be my temptation
>>96690524I honestly can't parse your post. Go to sleep.
>>96690551You have said this to me before. How do you resist new hotness to keep your collection sensible and why is it always being a stingoid in the starters or getting off the ground with a goofy design.
>>96683745>I want to get into Starcraft, what games should I playI would start with Starcraft, and then maybe try the second Starcraft.
>>96690560Discipline. Find a rule that works for you. As for me, I don't buy a new box if I don't finish painting one first from the pile of shame. Plus I admit to myself no motherfucker will ever indulge me by playing this very niche project.
>>96690624It sure gets easier as stuff gets more expensive.
>>96690643Just send an email to the maker saying your box was shit and have a free "replacement". This is a hustle economy bro.
>>96690524>How do you overcome the pool of "cool stuff that has been recently aggressively marketed to you?"Take an honest look at your backlog and ask yourself if you want to add more to the pile.Most of the stuff I have kicking around is stuff I still want to do, but in a burt of impulsive adhd fuelled purchases I've added stuff that jumped to the front of the queue and the ideas come faster than you can finish a project.I started keeping a list of stuff I've bought, stuff I've built and stuff I've painted for each year. The goal is to have more marks in the "painted" category than the new purchases. Keeps things in perspective. I'm still a mess when it comes to that stuff, but it really helps to keep a record.
>>96690560And you have not slept since? Poor you.
>>96690551>I honestly can't parse your postThat's indicative of brain trauma if your reading level is that poor but you can still type responses. You're unlikely to have consenting adult cognitive capacity and should get your handler to help you with the computer or phone so you don't hurt yourself or others.
>>96686142You give so much of a shit you needed to type all that to justify being a fuckwit to an anonymous image board about some sort of cringe meter based basilisk. Get over yourself. No one cares what you think is cringe, no one cares if you are embarrassing. They don't care about you enough to be embarrassed. Its just social controls you inflict on yourself in your free country.
>>96691982GoToSleep
>>96692087GetKilledFaggot
>>96684105Beyond the Gates of Antares just is a really clunky name to start with. No flow to it, no good way to shorten it, even just Gates of Antares conveys nothing and has no punch to it hook. And the lack of good marketing going from there. Warlord basically failed to pitch why Bolt Action in Space as a system too was something the grogs wanted (because Warlord works on the method of if you make it, hopefully people will buy it, hence the shite with Cruel Seas as a pet project) when a lot of the grogs were there in the first place with Bolt Action because they'd fled from 40k being a depressing mess.And a very generic looking sci-fi setting wasn't going to catch that when, well, the average cunt doesn't play for the rules and genuinely can't tell if a game system is good or not, just if they're having a good time with it. They play for the imagery and if there's a cool hook to it. BtGoA had no cool hook. It was generic mid 2010s sci-fi concept imagery, the kind you'd see filling out some AA rate FPS game or some failed RTS game.You can't sum it up in a simple way like you can with say, Konflict 47's weird World War 2 sci-fi grab-bag clusterfuck that gets people's attention.
>>96692279>No flow to it, no good way to shorten it, even just Gates of Antares conveys nothing and has no punch to it hook. And the lack of good marketing going from there.The first thing I think about when hearing "Gates of Antares" is getting raped by Antaran invasion in Master of Orion. So I would more expect it to be a space fleet wargame than some kind of skirmish.
>>96692279>the shite with Cruel Seas as a pet projectI know nothing about this please enlighten me.
>>96692302The gates of antares are the wormholes humanity used to travel all over the galaxy. Bascially like Stargate, but the gate in GoA float in space, are spaceship sized and activated by solarflares at random or something to that extend. Which explains the various strains of humanity warring with each other as well. Divergent evolutionary paths accelerated by genetic tinkering to settle on new planets.So if you are thinking spaceships and invasions it kind of does it's job. Rick Priestley refers to it as "the Antares game". Everybody else seems to have settled on GoA. Which makes me think of a spacey horse show about environmentalism. Anyway I guess you could do space fleet wargames for GoA like Battlefleet Gothic for 40k. Because of the limitations of FTL travel in the setting you'd only get local skirmishes though I suppose. Unless it's at Antares where people are waiting for the Gates to open.
>>96690524I have a three part test I use when tempted by a new hotness:>Will I actually be able to play it? Most of my group endlessly plays the same games so chances to play my suggested systems is few and far between.>Is it cool enough to have just as a hobby product? If I'm not going to play it but it will make for a cool hobby product I still pick it up.>How big is it? The smaller the better usually. With my group it's far easier to get them to try a new skirmish style game than a larger style wargame with different rules and there's no point in having something giant I'll barely be able to use.
