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>Previously
>>96671235

>TQ
Did you know that nothing in the official rules prevents you from spilling water all over your opponent's slop? If they move their slop, they lose the game. Look into it.
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>TQ
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Where are the ATLA spoilers?
It's October already!
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>>96688118
>WAITER, WAITER, PLEASE MORE SLOP WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE
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>>96688118
They learned their lesson with Spiderman, when the cards are horrible, it is better to NOT preview them for players. Avatar is going to be another UB disaster.
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>>96688118
It's been an entire week and my trough is getting empty. I opened 4 spideman collector boxes and I basically have everything at this point (2 soul stones, no full art but oh well)
I'm excited to abuse the waterbending mechanic (bending water onto my opponents cards)
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>>96688096
water-logged
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>promises to save white from the problems THEY made
>It’s only shitty Flash and SunTitan memes
Reminder that colorless got a tribal Flash enabler before white has yet to
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>>96688118
>Mfw when it's been 1 entire day without Spiderman, ATLA, Dragon Dildo, The Office, Adventure Time, Sex in the City, Seinfeld, Dominos, Iron Man, or Digimon UB spoilers
AAAAAAAAAAAAA I NEED SLOP TO CONSUME OR IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>96688163
>I opened 4 spideman collector boxes
I also enjoy casually losing a 1000 bucks
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>>96688167
>reprints chase cards to prop-up failing sales
The Reserve List will not survive this decade
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>>96688171
>I am a pig, and I eat slop.
>I am a pig, and I eat slop.
>I am a pig, and I eat slop.
>I am a pig, and I eat slop.
>I am a pig, and I eat slop.
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>MTGA genuinely expects you to dump hundreds of dollars just to win once
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>>96688173
Spiderman ever since I was a young boy, has been my favorite hero. I have all the merch - comics, blankets, posters, figures. My room is lined wall to wall with spiderman. My gf wants me to tone it back and says my room looks like a ten year olds, but fuck that bitch, amirite boys? Let men enjoy shit haha
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What card makes you wonder wtf was WotC smoking when they released it?
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>post your noncreature spells, I dare you.
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One Punch Man UB soon
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>>96688096
Besides Lorwyn, anything else here catch your interest? Be sincere.
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>>96688190
>my gf
is she well hung anon?
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>>96688213
I like the Star Trek set because it will be a bigger failure than spiderman
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>>96688213
I'm at least interested in Marvel Super Heroes to see if Spider-Man was an anomaly or if they just can't do Marvel that well. Strixhaven might be fun. I have no attachment to the Hobbit, Reality Fracture... Well, they're not batting great on story finales so far so I'm not holding my breath. And Star Trek I'd be interested to see done, and see how it differs from EOE mechanically.
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>>96688163
>I'm excited to abuse the waterbending mechanic (bending water onto my opponents cards)
Can't wait for this either. Maybe I'll just throw an entire glass of water in my opponent's face.
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>>96688214
I wish I could hang her off my spiderman ceiling fan sometimes
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>>96688230
With that mentality earthbending is just flinging your feces at them
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>>96688213

No. I'm only here because Magic is a core memory of my teen years. Theros was my last draft and Alara was the last set where I tried to get into standard. The disappointment never ends.
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>>96688244
I think it would just be small pebbles.
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If you're still buying product after Niggagorn you deserve UB.
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>>96688261
True, noone at my LGS has a regular fiber intake
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>>96688213
The only thing i'm interested in is if even scalpers are going to keep up with releases
That's way too much.
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>>96688213
I liked the limited environment of the first strixhaven, and hope this new one lives up to it. Lesson/learn was just such a good draft mechanic.
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>>96688213
For me this is the confirmation Magic as a whole is dead anyone interested in Trekkie shit or Super faggots or, god forbid me, ninja turtles is just another pig ready to eat the slop at the restaurant I, many years ago, had fine food.
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>>96688213
I unironically wish for yugioh ub set
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>>96688050
Sadly no, it was retarded "Serra was there and made her an Angel" (PIC)
>though I admit I do like having her kill the Obzedat
It could be cool if it wasn't retarded. They were inside their chamber where they are literally invincible. Keep in mind that Ravnica was a plane full of Ghosts that would from time to time mess around and because of that they had some anti-ghost tech around, and people tried to kill the Obzedat before but inside the chambers they were undefeated. If they had made a plot to take them away with for exemple Jace making illusion magic to trick them it could be ok.
It was as retarded as Kaya killing Heliod with her knife when it had been established lots of time that the Theros gods could only be defeated or harmed by weapons specially made to cut Nyx.
>>96688127
To be fair I may want to do a draft of Avatar (If my lgs host them)
Spiderman was garbage that didn't even fit the fantasy theme of the game.
>>96688193
Uro, Oko, most of the Fire Garbage?
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>>96688193
Vivi and Nadu
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>>96688213
>TMNT
expecting some ninja support that could make kaito, bane of nightmares even stronger, I've always though that getting an anthem emblem on a +1 is fucking insane
>strixhaven
expecting more strong 2-color instant and sorceries, expressive iteration, prismari command, vanishing verse and witherbloom command all came from strixhaven, I think they're gonna give us more of that
>the hobbit
I know very little about lord of the rings lore but the first set had a fuckton of strong cards so I'm expecting more of that, specially more food support
>reality fracture
I'm wondering what is the "thing we never have been able to do before" they keep talking about

that's about it really, I don't think marvel super heroes or star trek will have any interesting cards for non-EDH formats but I could be wrong I guess
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>>96688213
Strixhaven, hobbit, and Reality Fracture at first.
Trek might be okay if they exclude nuTrek and have plenty of DS9.
Marvel super heroes will be a dumpster fire, destroy it.
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>>96688193
This man, you can look straight at me in the eyes and tell me this fucking shit of a card wasn’t printed just for the sake of chasing those sweet dollaridoos.
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>>96687516
>nuPhyrexians losing because they were maybe using the reality chip to modify the oil and make it extremely more overpower and the good guys destroyed the chip would be good, Elesh Norn going retard and being killed thus turning off Phyrexian WiFi was retarded and forced.
>Modern mtg is plagued with shit writing and worldbuilding. That is the main problem and why people call it woke. If shit was well written people would not complain.
What does that have to do with being woke though?
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Gentle reminder that I could beat any of you at this game.
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>>96684454
>>96687592
I've never understood you people's insistence on making shitty cleavage alters. The claim that they don't print cards with cleavage anymore is false, so that doesnt make sense as a pretense
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>>96688193
whats wrong with this one? The self countering issue?
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>>96688461
Please don’t be genuine when replying to subhumans whose demagoguery is essentially “Korra lesbians bad LoL lesbians good”.
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>>96688482
It’s one of the biggest color pie breaks to ever exist and is a reflection of how absolutely talentless FIRE is.
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>>96688497
i thought you were complaining about hte balance, not the color pie
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>>96688453
>I'm wondering what is the "thing we never have been able to do before" they keep talking about
GAY BOLAS
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>>96688472
There's always a couple decent girls in a given set, but the overall amount of cheesecake is absolutely pitiful compared to the good times. But the tiddy edits are just a bit of fun.
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>>96688482
You could use it to cheat out Emrakul with decent consistency on turn 1 or 2 depending on how much fast mana you had on hand.
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>>96688096
Hello /mtg/,

I was the person from a few threads ago who was making the obnoxious "Sophia" posts and posting pictures of Margaret McPoyle from always sunny while saying mean and inappropriate things. I want to apologize to the /mtg/ community for tarnishing this forum with my own emotional lashing out. I have been going through a lot of changes the past several months and misdirecting frustration/anger towards someone who doesn't deserve any kind of mistreatment or hate is not a mature or productive way to handle rejection. I feel like a bully and I am ashamed of my actions. I regret what I did and said.

I am sorry /mtg/ and I am sorry Sophia.
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>>96688429
Those were both the same shit as always
>Initial design of card is more tame
>Some retard decides to pump it up right before it goes out the door and it receives basically zero testing
>Inevitably gets broken once the players get their hands on it
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>>96688536
post tits or gtfo
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>>96688536
Why we have the worst kind of schizos in here?
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>>96688536
eat my shorts
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>>96688193
like half of mh3
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>>96688483
>Korra apologists is retarded
what a shock.
anyway, Korra would be bisexual, no lesbian
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>>96688511
did you know "Bolas" means "Balls" in Spanish?
it was foreshadowed the entire time!
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>>96688567
It all started when the arena threads died off. Now they're back up but on /tg/, it's barely containment anymore. I warned you guys but you didn't listen.
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>>96688536
I forgive you anon. Time to forgive yourself and find a better game to play.
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>>96688623
I refuse to believe anyone plays Arena.
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>>96688645
>he thinks schizos need to play the game they post about
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>>96688213
WE ARE PIGS WE DESERVE A TEAR FULL OF SLOP!!
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>>96688213
The unannouced set just out of curiosity, Hobbit since it's just one book unless they think they can pull a Peter Jackson, and Fracture
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>>96688453
>expecting some ninja support that could make kaito, bane of nightmares even stronger,

excellent
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>>96688687
>The unannouced set just out of curiosity,
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
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>>96688213
at this point i just wanna see tnmt being announced because of the laughs, can you imagine how bad that set will be? in a shitty year that will be the cherry on top.
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Who even taught pigs how to type?
Methinks there may be some pig farmers typing on their behalf
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>>96688623
arena threads were unfun
it was always one guy posting his netdecks
and one other guy talking about drafting

didn't help the game made you play against bots and basically cheated
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>>96688461
Sorry, it was more about how bad the writing is nowadays divagation rather than keep in theme of forced shit.
(well, I could be dishonest and say that they made Elesh Norn overpower out of nowhere but it would not be true because it was more of a "lets make her extremely retarded" kind of deal)
I still have PTSD of how bad the writing was during the All Will Be One story.
>>96688483
Please, If your only genuine reply to conversations about things you don't like or thoughts you don't like is to use Ad hominem arguments then don't even bother replying to any of the posts.
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>>96688703
I'm still pissed about how New Phyrexia, a degraded form of Phyrexia struggling to find itself without the guidance of Yawgmoth who actually WON against Dominaria the first time, is so powerful they can wage war against the entire Multiverse at the same time while also fighting a civil war, and there are cards showing how they compleat gods and instantly turn whole oceans to oil and shit only to have them lose everywhere even before Norn gets her plug pulled. In one set. This is so offensively retarded.
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>>96688694
Then if it is that, I'm only looking for half of the sets. At least I'll be saving money
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>>96688729
The problem is you will be forced to experience those sets anyway. If they are meta you may have to buy some cards and there won't be alternate flavor/art reprints. You will also play against them.
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>>96688483
Who gives League of Legends a pass when it's jammed so much harder down your throat? Korra was just Bryke's retarded (yet successful) last second bid at immortality by having them hold hands during the final scene and then going on Tumblr and declaring lesbians.
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>>96688747
I'm fully aware of that, but since I only really play with friends; I don't have to deal with the full force of the collabs, at worst, just a few cards
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>>96688193
Any of these legendary creatures with mana value 5 or less that just let you do tons of stuff with practically no cost. The best of them dominate standard right now and the worst of them would dominate standard if the better ones didn't exist.

>>96688213
Really hoping Blex is in SoS, but aside from that, not really.
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>>96688728
The thing is: The new writers didn't understood the glistening oil. Like, in new phyrexia it is supported that the oil makes people weak over time as it was like radiation poisoning.
For exemple Venser had cancer because he spent most of his time in Urborg among the phyrexians remains. The oil from Mirrodin/New Phyrexia was the same as the oil from Urborg, maybe even an older version of it. It did make sense that the oil over the millennia it was in Mirrodin would be able to spread and start a new phyrexian cell there (with the help of the mana from the suns/moons and the bonus of it being a metallic world with the fungus that made artificial beings create flesh and natural ones create metal parts).
Like, from the end of Mirrodin to Scars of Mirrodin it was more than 100 years (if I m not mistaken) for Karn, after losing his spark, to become corrupted it took that much years, and because he was a golem he was most susceptible to the oil.
That was how contagious and able to turn people into Phyrexian the oil was...

Now on the All Ill Be One saga one small cut was enough to turn people into phyrexians in matter of minutes...
Out of nowhere.
Instead of slowly creating the small spots of invasions they went with the most retarded thing they could think: Zombie Virus.
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>>96688856
That's vaguely handwaved away by "Jin changed it via the Reality Chip" which is still a bit eh.
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>>96688891
How did nuPhyrexia have the oil, which is now mega powerful and one drop instantly turns you irreversibly evil, and still lose when they were literally raining billions of gallons of that shit everywhere during the invasion? Nothing about the story makes sense.
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>>96688906
Norn was a paranoid moron who tied the oil to herself, so when she died, the Phyrexians lost cohesion, and when Phyrexia was sealed away, the signal was just gone entirely so they shut down. It definitely felt like they accidentally made the villain too unbeatable and then hastily wrote in a backdoor plan.
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>>96688891
You know, it's pretty farcical that calling it "The Reality Chip" really isn't that far off from straight up naming it The Plot Device.
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>>96688567
you haven't been on /a/ if you think the schizos here are bad
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>they're talking about bad Magic writing
The worst writing in the entire history of this franchise, is Ikoria. To this day when I even think of Ikoria I get annoyed.
This is a plane where humanity is barely able to survive surrounded by massive monsters that are constantly evolving, and the power crystals used to operate all their technology and channel their magic mutate the monsters more. Any living non-human thing can turn into a monster. It's a horrifying setting.
In this hell world, one guy has managed to create the only lasting civilization, but because of all the sacrifice needed he's become cold and alone, because he's literally He Who Fights Monsters. General Kudro is one of the greatest heroes in all of Magic. He's the kind of guy who could have a whole book just to himself.
Instead Kudro is the bad guy because he is Le Bigot since he doesn't approve of people thinking you can soulbond with all the giant monsters around them and let them into the city. He gets killed by a petulant RETARD and literally EVERYONE cheers because they all hated him for being a bigot. The retard who goes out and finds the Ozolith which lets him soulbond with everything and he immediately goes power mad and wants to raze civilization. Oh and the Ozolith was put there long ago. Why? By who? You'll never know because Lukka was the only one who knows about it and he's dead now without telling anyone. Kudro dies and like five sets later we get a Ruins of Drannith land, so he was actually right all along and now Ikoria is just The Raped. What's the fucking point of this plane?
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>>96689015
>What's the fucking point of this plane?
With hindsight we can definitively say the two points of the plane were to:
1. Force commander into every format with Companions
2. Test the waters with Godzilla cards
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>>96688906
It’s not a zombie virus, it’s the black oil from Prometheus.
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>>96689109
Bad case of scarlet fever
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>>96689109
how can anyone justify banning rdw tho
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>>96689109
Damn, WotC was right. Vivi wasn't the problem, he's already been pushed out of the meta. Are you all going to apologize?
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>>96688096
What would be the consequences of WOTC retroactively banning UB from constructed again? It's not like anyone plays those formats enough to impact UB sales anyways. Can't they just admit they made a mistake, like with companions, and move on? Would threatening MaRos family with a gun in an alleyway improve the chances of this?
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>ikoria
Someone post that fat kid on the flying shark
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>>96689193
Sorry, line go up
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>>96689193
It would impact 100% of sales in the formats where UB has been added.
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>>96689109
Powerful
White
Cards
Kek
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>>96689193
>Would threatening MaRos family with a gun in an alleyway improve the chances of this?
No, because Hasbro would just kill his family anyway if he somehow managed to abolish UB.
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>>96688460
I've never played against Vivi because I just refuse to play anything besides cube for now. But just looking at that card I can see so many fucking problems. Fast mana on a stick?? Free counters and damage just for casting counterspells????? I don't give a FUCK if legendary, for that many abilities this thing should be an extra 3 mana and 2 of those should be red or blue pips. But WoTC sinply can't print a commander that's too high a cmc now, because that would just be too mean and make it unplayable in every format.

Which

It

Should

Be
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I member when playing a Nightmare used to feel powerful in 2001
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>>96689210
Wotc adding UB to competitive formats at this point is like finding a limp dog and just fucking stomping it's squishy little head in, just to drag it to the vet and pump it full of corn starch. The dog was in pain, it wasn't having a good time, but you just had to kick it in the head anyway and the resuscitate the trembling corpse.
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Basically all the oinkers in the edh general right now are all getting excited for Avatar and saying it won't flop because it was the most watched childrens show for a year or two two decades ago. What do you guys think? Will Avatar bomb or be a success? Why?
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>>96689225
Well you see WotC realized that value engines that cost 4 or more mana aren't good in Commander because they die to StP. So all your Standard cards are going to have their value production designed around that. Prepare for the era of 3-mana wincons.
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>>96688118
Don't they start in 2 weeks
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>>96688536
I forgive you.
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>>96689083
The xeno oil takes time to kill the people, the phyrexian oil was straightup zombie virus where once you got infected you had maybe a few minutes before turning into a phyrexian.

It was that retarded.
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>>96689341
That was only only on Mirrodin due to the people have metal on their skin.
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>>96689292
>Basically all the oinkers in the edh general right now are all getting excited for Avatar and saying it won't flop because it was the most watched childrens show for a year or two two decades ago. What do you guys think? Will Avatar bomb or be a success? Why?
I like avatar, and I dont want universes beyond.

I like D&D as well, and I wish the streams didn't cross.
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>>96689292
Avatar set will do well because of several reasons:
1. They’re only making cards of the universally liked three original seasons- no Korra, no Shymalan, no books, no comics, no Netflix, JUST what people liked.
2. The art style for the cards is consistent and not too distant from the expected UW art. No ugly brown trannies- if it wasn’t in the show it’s not on a card.
3. Thematically it’s not too far from a regular in universe plane, so there’s nothing jarring like tvs or modern day bullshit.
4. It was built as a full set from the start, so it won’t face the issues that Spider-man did.
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>>96688906
>>96689341
>>96689362
idk, i havent read the story (or played mtg in a while)
were other people complaining about it as well?

was the mtg story ever good?
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>>96688460
Idk man all I play against on arena are fucking reanimator decks right now have not seen vivi ever maybe all the vivi players only play ladder and are all already in master tier but I doubt it....
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>>96689369
>and I wish the streams didn't cross.
Anyone with deductive reasoning can see the writing on the wall that the endgame is for UB to fully integrate with UW regardless what Nosewater lies. You can’t have two narratives in the same format while simultaneously claiming they’re separate from each other. Which is why Reality Fracture and Omenpaths will be used as a means to have characters of both verses travel between the two at the bare minimum.
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>>96689393
they claimed they wouldn't do that:
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/796035956001128448/hey-mark-can-you-confirm-the-obvious-and-state


Rosewater isn't the guy in charge of this stuff, he's just their mouthpiece.
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>>96689294
No wonder reactive control decks are dead. A fuckin game ending threat is 3 mana. Mana cost used to mean something, you know? No amount of P/T balance was ever gonna keep a card like this under 5 mana just 4 years ago. You could cost this as 2BBR right now as is, and I wouldn't blink an eye. Hell, that might be too cheap! I feel like only fliers take a hit to P/T for their ability keyword, and that too is starting to slip. The day of the 3/3 flier with keywords for 2R are approaching.
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>>96689372
Actual decent and well laid out points, unlike the retarded adult babies on /edhg/ who are little talking about korra in diapers now, I need to get off that thread Jesus Christ
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I can't wait to buy the Unannounced Universes Beyond and Marvel Super Hero collector booster boxes.
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>>96689393
No doubt they would do that if they could, but something trumps even that- corporate greed. These big companies won’t like sharing space with other companies in the same stories- as of now, Frodo and spider man and Cloud are each separate, being featured as magic cards, but if they were allowed to interact outside gameplay (which is player driven and thus uncontrollable) then they’d start demanding more than they already do.

Wasn’t it who framed roger rabbit, or maybe another movie, that had both Mickey Mouse and bugs bunny in a scene, but they had to have equal screen time due to licensing stuff? Mixing UB together will just be a case of that, and that’s too much effort and too little profit for Hasbro.
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>>96689377
It was a good story for pigs.
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>>96689455
What about canon crossing over M:tG and D&D?
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>>96689466
>D&D
which setting? It's a good thing some of the best settings will never be touched by JotC because le slavery is le bad or something else like that.
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>>96689466
That’s the exact opposite problem- who would care? Is there anything really that separates the Forgotten Realms set from a hypothetical set that features a new plane with no connection to other planes? There isn’t. So crossing over dnd and mtg won’t give the reaction that rosewater wants.
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>>96689489
>>96689475
The D&D cosmology is totally different from MtG, and the magic system works totally different as well.
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>>96689398
>they claimed they wouldn’t do that

Like they claimed UB would never be Standard legal?
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>>96689501
It doesn't matter. They shoe-horned it in already with the coomander Baldur's Gape slop set.
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>>96689372
>4. It was built as a full set from the start, so it won’t face the issues that Spider-man did.
Why lie anon, you know it is a retro-converted set just like Spiderman, except it was a jumpstart set during creation
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>>96689501
Actually anon, D&D Dark Sun and MtG would work perfectly together. It will just never happen, for reasons I would prefer not to explain.
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>FNM
>second opponent is using a spider-man villains deck
>told me the decklist was made with chatgpt
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>>96689611
They confirmed Spider was a small set but they didn't reveal anything about Avatars development yet.
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>>96689627
Hehe, slaves
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>>96689706
Okay, sure anon
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speaking of slop no way in hell the alternate art for the spooderman set on mtg arena is not just 95% AI generated...
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>>96689694
That does make sense though, AI slop recommending AI slop
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>>96689745
I hate that everything is so dark for no reason, other then maybe to help hide all the imperfections the AI made, and the chinks in the WOTC sweatshop doing digital touchups to the AI made.

I remember everyone saying they wanted the non UB set in paper. Where did they go?
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>>96689452
>Unannounced Universes Beyond and Marvel Super Hero
My hype for "Unannounced Universes Beyond" could not be higher.
You see, I am a pig and I eat slop. And nothing gets my giblets in a twist more than mystery slop!
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>>96689109
>Everyone crying about Vivi
The new banlist is just the next set coming in with the elbow drop from the top rope onto what used to be cancer.
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>>96689764
It's not guaranteed to be TMNT but it is Guaranteed to be a Nickolodeon property. I think it could be another "multiverse" style set. I hope so I want to make a mono black Dan Schnieder deck
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>>96689744
Marvel/Spiderman and Avatar just rub me the wrong way because they 100% feel like a corporate cashgrab, like the wanted to jump on a bandwagon 10 years too late but then they still had to negotiate for the license and now they are almost 20 years late to shill a nearly deadbeat horse and the young audience the wanted to attract are in their 30s now.
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>>96689771
>It's not guaranteed to be TMNT but it is Guaranteed to be a Nickolodeon property.
I'm hoping for Doug. But as a pig, any slop will do. In fact, I think they should just start making Mystery Slop Boosters, which contain cards from IPs without announcing what IP the set is before release. That way, we can enjoy mystery slop without having to worry that it's slop we might not like. We could just consume the slop without thinking, that would be great.
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>>96689193
>What would be the consequences of WOTC retroactively banning UB from constructed again?
Line might go down :(
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>>96689109
I mean if you play mtg arena and you are not playing red or any other fast deck you are basically a retard because all you want to do is knock out your daylies/wins as fast a possible too get that sweet sweet gold so you can draft
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>>96689398
>they claimed they wouldn't do that:
Using my logical prowess, I can deduce the meaning of this...

A) They always lie.
B) They made a statement.

Therefor,
The statement is false and they actually intend to do it, and are just lying about it to prevent outrage and keep the frog boiling slowly.
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>>96689788
>I mean if you play mtg arena and you are not playing red or any other fast deck you are basically a retard because all you want to do is knock out your daylies/wins as fast a possible too get that sweet sweet gold so you can draft
Pigs eat the slop.
Hamsters get on the wheel.
Line go up.
The world keeps turning.
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I bought a precon. I've gotten to Plat in Arena. How do I learn how to build a competitive deck?
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>>96689822
>How do I learn how to build a competitive deck?
There are these cool websites online that you can go to and look at decklists. In order to learn how to build a competitive deck, go to these websites, and use the copy + paste tool to replicate the (inevitably red) highest meta percentage deck.
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>>96689824
Isn't that cheating?
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>>96689838
Yes but the game is fucking shit so who cares.
You won't brew a deck that beats (insert format here)'s best red deck.
Screaming Nemesis exists so you won't have tools to wall it.
Impulse draw exists so you won't out value-it.
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>>96689843
Reminder, the two best red cards got banned about 6 weeks ago, and RDW is still the best deck. Why you ask? Because they keep pushing red cards for Commander.
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>>96689854
>Reminder, the two best red cards got banned about 6 weeks ago, and RDW is still the best deck. Why you ask? Because they keep pushing red cards for Commander.
Screaming Nemesis is the worst design in MTG history. It turns off other colors being able to counter aggro, denying almost half the color pie's existance.
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>>96689822
I play with a bunch of meta chasers but is still like to build my own decks, so what I usually do is 3 things...

1, I proxie basically everything when I play with friends
2, I bring my own deck I tinkerd with to play against strong decks to see what I am lacking or want to add/remove from the deck
3, I just bring a second meta deck I tought was cool, in case I get completly stomped for 2-3 hours
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>>96689362
No, even in mirrodin it wasn't as retarded. It started to be like that during the All will be one/nu Phyrexian invasion.

In one of the Tezz comics (around New Phyrexia, the set) they even have the veldaken giving a serum that the sole purpose was to not feel or get the sickness that the oil gave. The mirrans where all the time fighting against phyrexians and they didn't turn into phyrexians on wounds but would get sick. People forget that the whole "turn metal into flesh" from mirrodin was a consequence of the oil that was spreading in the core and the fungus that originated from it. The humans of the Mephidros were always sick and some transformed into Nim. In og mirrodin it was never fully explained but in Scars they explained it with the oil taking effect with Phyrexis and in later stages the human would become a Nim. (in the novels there is a part that I think Glissa was infected in the Mephidros and they required a high healer from the leonin to get hid of the infection).
>>96689377
During the All will be one people where joking how retarded it was for Nahiri to become a Phyrexian because she was cut on the hand.
As for if the Story was ever good: Well the old books were mostly hit or miss with more hits than misses imo. The Thran trillogy is good, Part of the Invasion saga is good, The Odyssey is some what good, The Mirrodin trilogy is somewhat good, The Ravnica City of Guilds books were mostly good, The Lorwyn Trilogy was good and the Shadowmoor tales has some good shit too.
After they started to do web fiction the quality of the story only declined, to the point that today almost nobody cares about it.
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>>96689892
I know nobody who ever really cared about the mtg story, It was literally always I want to play Goblins/Atifacts/Reanimator/Angels/Elves.......etc.
Mtg lore is more like background noise you only notice it when it really gets fucking annoying, like black aragon or spooderman
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>>96689824
You have two options.
A: Develop an extensive knowledge of the card pool and over a substantial period of time assemble a deck with high synergy and a powerful wincon that has multiple points of failure it can recover from against most common decks in the meta.
Or B: Go online and copy the top ranked deck.
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>>96689909
I cared about it before it became the Jacetice League. Once they introduced nuwalkers I struggled to keep the same interest I had back when it was Urza and everything leading up to Time Spiral.
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>>96689909
Well, I read the books because I bought FAT PACKS (it is funny how they changed the name to bundle recently because of prejudice to fat people) back in the day and they came with the "full novel for the set" + booklet that told about what was happening in the story. And sometimes even the cards told a bit of what was happening in the story, so for exemple you wouldn't be truly surprised when the Invasion block was announced.

If i didn't had the books I probably wouldn't try to understand the background story outside of looking into cards and flavor text, so to make it clear you are not a minority.
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Remember kids, when Standard Magic is in the Red, Hasbrew stock is in the black
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One of the strongest pieces of removal ever printed, I am shocked this absolute nuke of a card has seen zero play.
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>>96689995
>One of the strongest pieces of removal ever printed
lmao
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>>96690014
Name even a single threat in Standard that it doesn't completely solve.
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>>96689995
Because something better came out
https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/53/cryoshatter
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>>96690023
No flash.
The target keeps its abilities.
Both EXTREMELY relevant.
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>>96689879
what is this, a proxy for ants?
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>>96689869
>half the color pie's existance.
>lifegain
oh you poor child, you should get to play against cawblade or splinter twin
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>>96690019
Anything affected by Cauldron?
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>>96690019
Into the Floodmaw, lol, lmao even
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>>96690037
>Anything affected by Cauldron?

>and loses all abilities.
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Okay okay fine, I admit it.
I'm only shilling that card because I desire a world where horrible, horrible Agatha's Soul Cauldron vs. ability stripping Flash enchantments timestamps rules nightmares exist in Standard.

I do think it's far better than the Bitter Triumph current Dimir Midrange decks are running though.
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>>96689995
>2 mana
>Creature-locked
>Dies to another removal card
Yeah maybe if this was printed in 2010 when Doom Blade was considered ridiculous.
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I can't believe just how awful Cutter is to have on board, from both sides. The amount of tracking, game stalls to re-count everything, uncertainty about what does and doesn't have what abilities, is un-fucking-believable. How the HELL did this POS design get through playtesting?
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>>96690122
>Playtesting
They didn't.
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>>96690126
It's so fucking terrible. I can not fathom how you could allow something that's built entirely of headaches and bad gameplay to exist within your game.
Who is responsible for this garbage heap of a design, and how have they not been fired?
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>>96690136
Do you think this company thinks ahead when they do shit like errata Ajani's Pridemate and Rampaging Baloths in paper play for the convenience of Arena?
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>>96690122
If you've ever watched an EDH game in progress, one thing you'll notice is that the active player will always read out what their cards do as they cast them - note that I say read and not explain, because they read the card line by line rather than summarize what they do from memory. The non active players rarely have any kind of interaction meaning the active player more or less gets to do whatever he wants so it's managable when only one person is playing the game at a time. In a game of Magic, however, there's much more emphasis on tracking what your opponent is doing and on instant speed interaction.
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>>96690126
Reminder that only white gets playtested because KHW(kikes hate white) and they will NEVER EVER allow white to be powerful in Standard ever.
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>>96689995
>removal
yeah right
https://scryfall.com/card/blb/95/fell
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>>96690019
>Enchang Vivi
>It loses its abilities
>Swing in with creatures
>Opponent blocks with Vivi
>Vivi (likely) dies
>They exile Vivi with Cauldron
Maybe it would be nice in a wizard deck where you don't attack, but in most cases a kill spell would be strictly better. Even then, Cryoshatter would be better given the former.
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>>96690407
> sorcery
lol lmao
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to counteract vivi deck you'd need to run artifact removal
But by the time you can cast 2+ mana spells, you're already dead and you're going to get outresourced by counterspells anyway

in that case you'd need to run graveyard hate or cauldron yourself so they can't get vivi, but you would need to have the initiative
but even if you build against cauldron, you still have to manage the other threats

vivi decks rarely hardcast vivi, they just discard it to pump another creature with cauldron
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>>96689767
you can tech against rdw relatively easily, you can't tech against Vivi other than rdw, therein lies the problem
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>>96688512
Reminder: people who say "cheesecake" unironically are without fail manchild manlet faglets.
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in arena i used to play anti-red strategies and even in diamond up i would get matched with absolute jank decks that specifically countered my jank
And when i'd match a red, i would only draw lands
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>Standard
Ruined for the horrible meta
>Pioneer
Ruined for the horrible meta
>Modern
Ruined for the degenerate meta and ironically the “healthiest” format lmao
When WotC will stop releasing shit UB slop and fix this fucking game?
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>>96690676
Spoken like a newfag
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>>96688472
>i never understand why men like big gigantic juicy plump kahoonas
huge ebony milkers cure racism
wotc should hire me
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>>96690965
It's never going to happen
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I started watching the Avatar in preparation for the Avatar, and it's pretty good.
Still not Magic.
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>>96691336
You know this is a lie because season 1 is dogshit, it only gets good in season 2.
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>>96691354
I'm only on the s1e9 and it's been fine. I like the art style, animation, some backgrounds are really nice. I like the world, characters although it's clearly aimed at a younger individual.
But yeah the main plot thread didn't grab me much.
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>>96690146
you never played "c"EDH®©™
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>>96691378
ye it is all fun an games until the set releases, and you realize that they probably have 3-5 cards dedicated to the cabbage guy alone, because the universe is not very deep
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>>96691517
>Cabbage Merchant
Fucking embarassing
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>>96691354
Season 1 is fine. Worst I can say is that it's a bit kiddo at times, but that's not exactly unexpected.
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>>96691517
Eh, there's enough characters and random distinct animals/mooks to fill out a set with only a bit of stretching.
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>>96689015
>Drannith gets ruined by monsters
>it's true
L M A O
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>>96691588
Why is it every time the masses kill the old white guy under the pretense he’s a racist sexist homophobic chud, the capital he represented turns to ash and cinders overnight? It really makes me think…
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Only because you don't do this often.
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>after thirty something years, magic's last UW set will be on Strixhaven
Why? Almost everything else would be a better choice.
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Baffles me why wotc didn't separate UBs from the main game, making a UB only format so it would get slop eaters into the game without tainting the main game and keep magic players happy they don't have to play against spider-spongebob vivi fantasy doctor trek blackwashed of dem rangs decks.
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>>96682392
>>96682752
>private company wants to make money more than it cares about the costumers
and thats totally fine? thats why companies are made for in first place.
if you dont like it, stop consuming their product. speak with your wallet. go play something else. its a toxic relationship, move on.
yes, I liked MTG but that does not justify accepting their practices so just let it be, free yourself from it.
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>>96688176
Reserve List should be have been a thing in first place.
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>>96691843
Government intervention is okay when I do it, however.
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>>96689180
RDW is a vaccine. If the Vi(vi)rus didnt exist we wouldnt need it in first place.
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>>96691888
RDW has been turbo AIDS before Vivi was a thing. RDW is just too bullshit now. Some dude is bitching about Vivi being a 3CMC wincon meanwhile RDW plays multiple 1CMC, 2CMC, and 3CMC wincons.
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Lmao Aggro tards thinking Red hasn’t been a problem since literally Slickshot print… Remember those seven wave bans? They should had banned seven fucking red cards to even start making the color “balanced”
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>>96689455
It's the same issue with the infamous marvel/dc crossovers in comics, there have been a few but they run into legal and marketing trouble when having to determine which character beats which character in the fights...which leads to stuff like bats and cap coming to a draw in hand-to-hand combat (despite the fact that cap should be stronger since bats is smarter)
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>>96691995
Batman is a "peak human" so he's just a really strong man but Captain America is literally enhanced by science steroids to be much stronger, faster, and tougher than a normal human. He can't even get physically tired and routinely lifts several tons. What bullshit to have them be evenly matched.
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>>96691354
Season 1 limps a bit because it's establishing the setting, the characters, and finding its legs.

From The Storm onwards it's just as good as book 2
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>>96688213
>Besides Lorwyn
thats a big implying, friend.
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It all unironically rides on Lorwyn Eclipsed. If EC fails and the other two universe within sets are fucking Hexhaven and Planar Chaos 2 Jace’s Boogaloo, then Magic as a whole is going to crash and burn HARD next year.
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DO NOT CALL THE UB BUYERS PIGS, OR YOU ARE A NAZI!!!!
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>>96692107
Lorwyn Eclipsed looks like fucking shit already. Everything looks gay as fuck, the new Sygg card makes no sense, Ashling has no tits, and it'll probably have black elves and kithkin.
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>>96692121
Oink oink, Swinewater
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>nooo don't compare people to animals or ur le natzee!
>thinkers that are worshipped by sjws constantly called people all sorts of animals
What did this praerie dog even mean?
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>>96692121
>Police the tone of the criticism while leaving the core of it unanswered.
A true classic
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>>96692143
>DONT CALL THE PAYPIGS, PIGS, IT UPSETS THEM DEEPLY
t. paypig farmer
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>>96692121
Just change it so your favorite Korean restaurant slowly becomes a McDonald's.

You still get the pig metaphor with murricans
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>>96692121
>you're a bitch
>you're chicken
>you're full of bullshit
>you're an ass
>you're a jackass
>you're a snake
>you're a sex pest
>you're a leech
>you're a parasite
The slopposting is stupid, but Maro is stupider. I guarantee he's said some of these before and not cared.
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bro, every word is some sort of slur
you can call someone a flower maiden and this would be an insult some part of the world

The slop posting truly has shown how fragile people have become
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>>96692121
oink oink mr nosewater
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>>96691833
This would have been excellent. A sort of pig pen for pigs who eat slop.
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>>96692107
Can't wait.
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>>96691588
>>96691665
Based WOTC
>>96692107
Hopefully it happens!
>>96692121
Aren't they? Why can't we call them for what they are?
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>>96691665
How many times has that happened?
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>>96692121
Idk I would say it is more like calvin and hobbes or garflield, one had an artistic vision and wanted to push the medium further and actually had to fight not selling out, and the other one sold out wherever he could.

Both are very sucsessful but you know which one is better and more beloved.
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>>96692449
Only one of them has a kart racer!
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Commander player here.
I'm tired of the slop.
I liked it better when every legendary creature wasn't designed to be a self-contained value engine that rewards you for some trivial task, then enables itself anyway on top of that.
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Do mermaids have vaginal cavities
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>>96692563
Yes, they have cloacas
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>>96692552
commander stopped being fun the exact minute they printed eminence cards it was all just a downward spiral of pushed made for commander cards and the most boring value engine legendaries possible from there on
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>>96692121
You can suck my sick Nosewater
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>>96692621
I'd argue it genuinely did start with Commander 2011 because the debut was with an untapped rainbowland that slots in literally every deck. That design philosophy never stopped and it escalated to the point it now just looks quaint.
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Like what kind of galaxy brain would design eminence, making the format's gimmick basically moot and for no risk or restriction whatsoever?
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>>96692648
made for commander in general was a mistake but i think the format was still fun right up until eminence and then facing inala, markov and ur-dragon every single game just kinda drained it for me and it somehow managed to get even worse from there on
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>>96692121
Oinkies! What a way to avoid the whole point that the original post made. Just continue shoveling slop into your mouth.
SUIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HERE PIGGY PIGGY PIGGY!
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How much do you guys weigh
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>>96692121
What an absolute disgrace of corporate puppet. To think this faggot is actually “respected” outside of here as a great brand face. He should be fired alongside all his team and Hasbro burn to ashes.
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I feel like mana dorks and mana rocks that only allow you to spend their mana on specific things are an unexplored design space. I also feel like someone on the design team has already had this idea, and this plus a monkey's paw is how we got Vivi
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>shaman
Problematic.
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>pioneer living end isn't real, it can't hurt you
>pioneer living end:
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I should sell my boisejus and my ottawa
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>>96693068
I really hate Superior Spider-Man card.
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>>96688193
underworld breach. from the moment it got revealed
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>got into MTG during New Phyrexia in 2011-2012
>faction got mothballed so I left
>got back into MTG during New New Phyrexia in 2023
>faction's been mothballed so I'm leaving

See you in 11 years, I guess.
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>>96693365
>>got back into MTG during New New Phyrexia in 2023
>>faction's been mothballed so I'm leaving
so it took you two and a half years to notice, or what?
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>>96688472
I don't know about the anon who created whatever >>96691173 is, but I'm boobanon and I just do the edits for fun and practice. I typically only do artwork that was conspicuously missing cleavage.

That being said, recently I haven't been that interested. I abhor all things UB and recent set aesthetics haven't really lent themselves to editing (I did sneak in a few big titty space angels from EOE but thats about it).
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>>96693406
>I did sneak in a few big titty space angels from EOE but thats about
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>>96692121
is pig gonna be the next p-word?
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>>96693422
This one came out decent enough.
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>>96693406
you the anon who did THE omnath?
Also, i did the edit with liquefy tool, both the one is the previous thread and the one here.
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>>96693422
>>96693427
This one isn't as good but eh, like I said my heart wasn't 100% into it for EOE.

See you in Lorwyn (maybe...).
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So whyd they make aragorn black
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>>96693454
Virtue signaling
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>>96693454
To see how (you) would react
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>>96693488
Yes, i am racist. What is so wrong with it? Jew and Blacks are racist and no one tell them shit, but a white guy says he doesn't like U because it's for brainlets, suddenly he loses his job.
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>>96693488
I reacted poorly
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>>96693454
Simple they are inside a bubble that reinforces such ideas/behaviour, this is why concord failed because they were in an enviroment that was free of criticism to boost morale, same with wotc I bet plenty of designer were thinking that it was a stupid idea but they kept their mouths shut because they did not want any trouble and report or HR
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>>96693427
the notion that it's not humanoid enough to have a face, yet is humanoid enough to have tits on display. the notion tickles me.

... then again...
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>>96693389
I have a necron deck as well, but honestly looking down the pipe and seeing nothing in the works, I'm done until the faction I like is back.
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>>96693528
>they were in an environment that was free of criticism to boost morale
You wouldn't believe how common that is now across every work or hobby space/community.
It's just any amount of non positivity instantly makes you Hitler, and thus it makes whatever the community/corporation does stagnate and suck.
It's why i stopped working in the "creative" field a decade ago. People are such fucking sissies holy shit, it's unbearable.

And then they blame the consumers for not buying their absolute feces of a product.
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>>96691852
I assume you mean 'should never have'.
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>>96693454
What this anon said >>96693528 but Justice Geddess was the main promoter. He was a lolcow-tier trans artist involved in the art direction of the set.
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>>96693454
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>>96693791
>"virtuous"
>you can't criticise us, this is inherently good and better
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>>96693732
>>96693764
Klem sums up religious people perfectly. Doesn't know what he believes in but is sure he wants to be a cleric. Also despite 31 years of progress we still have people self-inserting their shitty D&D characters to the detriment of the game as a whole.
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>>96689627
>Actually anon, D&D Dark Sun and MtG would work perfectly together.
why?
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Insane that wherever you look, anything is made by and aimed at effeminates, even things that have a majority male audience.

I'm still not playing chinkslop though
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>>96693872
wtf you talking about?
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is just me or the negativity towards this game has scalars to unbelievable levels in the last year? seriously i can’t go to a place even irl and don’t hear something bad about it.
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>>96693886
Dunno, just throwing out my shitty opinion out there and see what kind of trannies bite.
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>>96689524
>It doesn't matter. They shoe-horned it in already with the coomander Baldur's Gape slop set.
That's not canon in M:tG. But its also not considered universes beyond, so idk how that works.

The issue is not that using D&D references or winks/nudges. You could definitely fit a lot of D&D monsters or magic items in to M:tG. Mindflayers may fit fine (though you may need to change their backstory), stuff like bags of holding fit fine.

Surface level aesthetics aren't really the issue.* The issue is that mechanics & lore are completely different once you get past that.
Vancian casting vs a mana system. the great wheel cosmology (with multiple infinite dimensions) vs A bunch of unrelated planes. etc
*that might be part of why WOTC wanted to merge them or thought about it, since they see that and don't think any deeper (or assume their fans won't care).
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>>96693895
They ruined the 60 card version of the game
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>>96693968
Oh, they are ruining EDH too but this isn't the thread to bitch about that.
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>>96693849
All magic comes from the land in both settings
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>>96689822
I once got to mythic in arena when i was still playing it.
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>>96689869
>Screaming Nemesis is the worst design in MTG history. It turns off other colors being able to counter aggro, denying almost half the color pie's existance.
is it worse than
https://scryfall.com/card/eve/62/stigma-lasher
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>>96689879
>>96690027
its a color inverted version of this card:
https://scryfall.com/card/spm/135/mister-negative
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>>96694004
>has haste
>doesn't need combat damage
>still gets the effect if it gets damage (blocked or burn)
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>>96694041
it gets even worse
>you can trigger its effect by pinging it yourself
literal solitaire card
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>>96693791
>>96693764
>>96693732
>>96693720
>>96693720
gentlemen I regret to inform you that these are not genuine posts
the content of the posts no doubt reflect the genuinely felt sentiments of the people responsible for the artwork in the lotr set, but nonetheless I feel compelled to point out that the specific context of these screencaps is that someone made a Twitter account with that @ after 'she' (?) deactivated it, for the express purpose of making those tweets.

my nuanced truthfulness rating of these posts: Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion / 10
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>>96694054
this is the part of Nemesis that I think is kinda bullshit lol, it can still be teched against but pretty much not with lifegain because of this
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>>96694079
if honestly it was just
no life gain until the end of the turn and it would only trigger upon any opponents damage sources, it would be alright
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>>96694061
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>RDW
>easy to play, easy to counter
>gets something to fight against control/lifegain retards once (1)
>control/lifegain retards have a meltdown cause “NOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE EFFECTIVE COUNTERPLAY AGAINST MY CANCER STRAT!!”

love this bitch so much is unreal
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>>96694061
The Alaundo and Klement tweets are real afaik
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>effective counterplay
>"You dont get to use a game mechanic for the rest of the game"
Shit like that is why counterspells exist
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>>96688213
>Star Trek
>STAR TREK
>STAR TREK?!!!!!!!!!
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>>96694116
I know nemesis is better.... but I will never hate anything more than this stupid bat
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>>96694116
>RDW
>Calling anyone else cancer
Quaint
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>>96694125
Bro where is your spot removal? Your pacifism effects? It’s literally one 3/3 creature, RDW are notorious for being weak against removal, you deal with 1 or 2 creatures they cast, it’s game over. Meanwhile turn 4 inifites that gives 1+\1+ counters to your gorillion tokens are ok for some reason. Fucking retarded ass bad players.
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>>96694061
>>96694121
Most people on the left don't act like that. Aside from the clement one (which could be legit), it kinda looks like satire or someone trying to imitate them. I'd need to see an archive or a link
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>>96688201
WHY THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE 4 FUCKING TOUGHNESS
IT IS MONO RED
I DO NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND HOW WOTC CAN BE SO FUCKING SHIT AT SOMETHING AS BASIC AS REMEMBERING WHAT COLORS GET WHAT STAT VALUES HOLY FUCK
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>>96694169
Nemesis is the best litmus test that WotC have produced in many years. It makes new / bad players absolutely chimp out and good players just see it as another midrange red threat that requires an answer.
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>>96694169
>metaslave has no clue about game design
>"just draw the out! lol"
And this is why sloppers of the coast keep printing UBs
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@96694184
The worst bait I've seen in years.
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>>96694125
>play against Azorius
>literally can’t play at all, can’t interact with any mechanics

And somehow this is more fair than not being able to gain life. Incredible.
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>>96694195
Yes, i am racist against toast; how did you know?
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>>96694184
IT'S A THREAT THAT SHUTS DOWN THE PRIMARY COUNTER TO AGGRO

AND IT'S THE PERFECT CURVE TOPPER OF AN AGGRO DECK

GET THE FUCKING PROBLEM?
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>>96694169
>RDW are notorious for being weak against removal, you deal with 1 or 2 creatures they cast, it’s game over.
Yeah maybe fifteen years ago, Grandpa.
nuMagic red has impulse draw stapled to everything and risk-free manlands that demand you have more removal than they have cards at all.
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>>96694195
Bro, your "can't be countered" spells?
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>>96694188
If you play any kind of white control and don’t have a couple of those in your deck, you are by definition bad. If you don’t have by turn 3, then you’re bad AND can’t create decks/mulligan.
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>Yeah, so akshually, if you're homeless... just like, buy a house?
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>>96694210
It's bait, anon.
He is saying the literal stupidest thing he could think of to fish for (you)s.
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>>96694210
Lifegain is not the primary counter to aggro, anon. Your new is showing.
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>>96692132
>Ashling has no tits,
she was always flat. are you blind?
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>>96694229
>Lifegain is not the primary counter to aggro
Here's your (you), bait-kun.
Try to be less obvious next time.
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>>96694210
… removal bro? Pacifisms? Bounce to hand??
Embarrassing really, the amount of copium is unreal. You are just bad the game of Magic.
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metatards really can't fathom beyond layer 1 interactions
>"lmao just have all copies of your outs in your hand and have your wincons as well and don't get outtempo'ed as well! lmao"
i mean, given how the game has been dumbed down to hell, it's no wonder "good players" cannot play the game
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>>96694248
>Pacifisms?
They can still Shock it to get the emblem, retard.
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>>96693791
Should sauron have been white rather than black? As in color of mana.
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>>96694258
Oh no! What will I ever be able to do without gaining life for the rest of the game? My goodness, I should just throw my deck into the trash because my win condition was lifegain all along!
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>>96694255
It's funny because removal is so fucking trash nowadays that even if you do have your outs, half the time they don't work.
And, when they do work, half of that time aggro is so hyper-efficient that you need to use them sub-optimally and allow the red deck to cheat value with unrestricted spell timings.
Current gameplay is just fucking horrible. It's an absolute shit pit of unfathomable design failure.
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>People defending Nemesis
Bait used to be at least believable
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>play this with X at 1
>RDW is no more
Is that simple. But noooooooooo, literally uncountarable!!1!!
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>>96694277
>Oh no! What will I ever be able to do without gaining life for the rest of the game?
Most of the time?
Die to burn while your ability to stabilize is banned.
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>>96694287
honestly, it's not like there is anything else to talk about
i like this type of bait
makes me think about stuff

i am a fish and i eat bait
blub blub
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>>96693791
>>96694061

The aragorn post was made by a parody account:
https://archive.today/5qoNS
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Why is Zimone obnoxious but Jace is fine?
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>>96694288
We're talking about standard, not legacy or modern (that yeah, dont have a huge RDW presence because of cards like that, you're right)
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>>96694336
Jace is not fine and nobody has ever liked him except that one time he forgot who he was and became a completely different character.
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>96694349
This. He was temporarily redeemed when he was forced to finally do something other than "be in a cloak and act mysterious" and bagged himself a gorgon waifu but almost immediately afterwards he just slid back into "mysterious guy but probably evil now". They will attempt to make him into Urza 2.0 but it will fall flat because Jace doesn't have nearly the same gravitas and never will.
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I do have to take the moment to emphasize that Screaming Nemesis is SO FUCKING BAD a design. I can not comprehend how it saw the light of day.

It isn't just the worst MTG design of all time, it's unironically one of the worst things ever in game design across all game mediums.
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>>96689892
>During the All will be one people where joking how retarded it was for Nahiri to become a Phyrexian because she was cut on the hand.
how quick was it?
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>>96694349
I only liked Jace when they printed the mind sculptor, one of my favorite magic cards ever. I dont actually give a fuck about the story I just want to play a card game and his design is pretty hot i love emo boys
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>>96691783
Which youtuber are you getting this from? Something so being repeated by idiots is unnatural.
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>>96692121
Don't recall MaRo ever saying that. Do you have a link?
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>>96692449
I don't really think Garfield is better.
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>>96692121
>you are historically in very bad company.
WOW I DON'T CARE
COME GET YER SLOP PIGGY PIGGY PIGGY
SOUUUIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>96689744
Bad news about Foundations, guy.
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>>96693720
I find it a little racist that they chose the character who is famous from his skull being an item to be black.
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>>96694373
Jace has always been a bumbling failure who hurts himself as much as others and gets like half-victories. Pretty much the only uncomplicated 'wins' he's had are Agents of Artifice where he dismantles Tezz's consortium and gets away, but did lose his friend and strained his relationship with Liliana, Battle for Zendikar, where it was a group thing and it'd be stupid to have the Gatewatch's first big 'thing' end in failure, and Thunder Junction where he was the secret mastermind and got exactly what he wanted.
Good chance he's not gonna be the ultimate villain of whatever the fuck Reality Fracture is, but he'll be like an instigator of it and have to fix his mistake.
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is this the new thread
>>96693627
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>>96694642
Yeah sure. Who cares.
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>>96694642
I've made a proper thread
>>96694673
>>96694673
>>96694673
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>>96688096
Correct previous thread for the archivers.
>>96680553
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God i feel 0 hype for Avatar...
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>>96694642
>moved to /pol/
lol
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>>96694728
lol
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>>96694229
Stabilizing without healing is almost impossible against aggro because you can't escape burn range after wrestling the board
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>>96694061
>I feel compelled to point out that the specific context of these screencaps is that someone made a Twitter account with that @ after 'she' (?) deactivated it, for the express purpose of making those tweets.
Fake and gay. Stop spreading Fake News. If it wasn't him there the same shit wouldn't been posted in his Tumblr and he wouldn't be fired after all went down... And yes, after he got fired he cleared his twitter.

Stop being dishonest.

Also this PIC was from his personal site with the portifolio of art her directed.
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>>96695396
see:
>>96694325
>The aragorn post was made by a parody account:
>https://archive.today/5qoNS
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>>96694210
The primary counter to aggro is bringing even bigger threats anon. Or go wide, w/e floats your boat.
>>96694295
Even without lifegain, W should have stuff with flying to punch from above.
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>>96688512
>There's always a couple decent girls in a given set, but the overall amount of cheesecake is absolutely pitiful compared to the good times.
>>96693406
it comes across like seething or some inane fixation on some people's parts.



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