Hag Fall Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96688096>TQWhat creature type do you want supported?
>>96694673Will Noggles become horse, donkeys or stay the same?
Your threads suck ass and WotC isn't paying you enough.
YOU BAKED EARLY MORON, REAL THREAD IS HERE>>96693627>>96693627>>96693627>>96693627>>96693627
>>96694712Did I miss anything?
>>96694704
>>96694719>Thread archived.>You cannot reply anymore.
>>96694704Likely Donkeys, making them exist outside of silver-border for the first time.
Are you ready for Lorwyn anons?
>>96694719>moved to /pol/anyways that would actually be based but only if it went both ways andthey banned that downie burchett as well
>>96694748I mean, as ready as a new player can be
>>96694748>le nostalgia bait>Old card, but power crept to infinityFuck off, shit's going to suck.
I think wizards should publish a long, explicit, romantic and sexual encounter between Jace (their stand in for the average player) and Vraska (one of the only well written women in the story- someone who’s strong and independent, but also flawed and vulnerable)
>>96694673you don't want to be on the wrong side of history right?
>>96694809the master of pilpul has posted another banger, I actually admire them at this point
>>96694673>>96694673>>WotC's War Crimes>https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)>https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)This pastebin isn't that good because it doesn't actually link to the sources for some of the stuff.anyways some thoughts.>Banning of "Culturally insensitive" cards:> - Seven cards chosen for game-wide bannings due to being culturally insensitive. Most of them were ridiculous.Which ones weren't ridiculous? > - Effectively introduces bans to Vintage, where there should be none (Except Lurrus).Lurrus was actually unbanned in vintage: https://scryfall.com/card/mul/181/lurrus-of-the-dream-den
Keywords that might be mainset Mechanics.Champion: It might be improvedChangeling: It might be deciduous insteadClash: Not it exactly but an improved mechanic that is backwards compatible with it.Kinship: It is a tribal setProwl: They seem to like it.Retrace: Either a weak cycle of cards for draft or an improved version.
>when she sees your Equipment
>>96694673>TQThird time's the charm, give it up for another attempt at Werewolves!
>>96694809God i would slap Nosewater in the face so hard...
>>96694793>I think wizards should publish a long, explicit, romantic and sexual encounter between Jace (their stand in for the average player) and Vraska (one of the only well written women in the story- someone who’s strong and independent, but also flawed and vulnerable)i dont think they'd do that. they want to keep things pg-13
>>96694809>>96694814>>96694834I think there's 2 things to take in here.I do think universes beyond is garbage, ruins the game, and largely a cashgrab, but he has a point.When you phrase things in certain ways it can seem like its not just about the game expereince and rather an attack on people on a more personal level.
is modern death and taxes still playable in a post mh3 world?
Any of you clowns play 5 color dragon?
>>96694869>he has a point.>When you phrase things in certain ways it can seem like its not just about the game expereince and rather an attack on people on a more personal level.his "point" wasn't this nuanced "please be nice to other players" angle that you're taking, it was "this criticism of the company is illegitimate because the people making it are like the Nazis"
>>96694877if by 5 color you mean gay and by dragon by their asshole then yes
>>96694839Last story had the first instance of 'fuck' used in Magic story, but that's still within PG-13. We've gotten implications that Jace is surprisingly good in bed because he's slightly reading his partner's mind at all times.
>>96694839They already confirmed at the end of Aetherdrift (I think?) that canonically Jace has been rawdogging Vraska long enough to be pretty sure that they can’t have children at least unassisted. That’s a lot of sex.
>>96694719>>96694756So /tg/ mods confirmed that events in MTG tournaments are not actually on-topic to /tg/, which is retarded.
>>96694809As if those bad people weren't called animals in turn. Almost like comparing people to animals is one of the most common forms of insult throughout history across all cultures.
>>96694832They haven't reprinted any Day/night werewolves other than 1 in a secret lair so I think they'll just make the new mechanic compatible with the original and ignore the Day/night ones.
>>96694889>Jace has been rawdogging Vraska long enough to be pretty sure that they can’t have children at least unassisted. That’s a lot of sex.Did they actually do that?
>>96694830
>>96694906This is as direct an implication as you can get.
>>96694891Wasn't that event ages ago? If you want to talk about old events confine it in the main general.
>>96694919lol.anyways, theres always the simic options.
snake bitch killed my favorite guild leader i still do not like her
>>96694893>Go to Europe>Literally the ONLY insult they can think of is calling other people a "dog"
>>96694891watch out anon if you point this out you will get banned for "complaining about 4chan"
>>96694869You can be as non-personal as objectively possible, the modern cattle will still be offended by it because they feel found out.If i said>Some rich people are really pieces of shitSome rich people would agree because they know who i am talking aboutThe pieces of shit would tell me i'm a scatophobe
>>96694923AHhhhhHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh god noooooooooAHhhhhHdahawrhtrhrbw ebtgbsbhhhhhhhh agdlksjdl;gkjsdgksdfWHY WHY WHY ahhhaghadshsdhbt s4whhrgrhafhafsh sahhhhhhhadhahrdahadshasdhmore slop for mtg fans
>>96694884>>96694958yeah thats another thing, hes more likely to be sensitive to the insult and interpret it worse because he works for the people making the game into slop (and he gets plenty of hatemail).
>>96694673Fleemsisters and nonbinary Fleemfolx, where do you get your estrogen nowadays??>TQFleem, of course! DAE le Fleem? UB le bad, btw.
>>96694923>>96694961wait i just re-read that.are they really making official mtg crossover jewlery. thats the most cringe worthy thing imaginable.
>>96694809This type of thinking is extremely low-IQ and uneducated. As if simile isn't one of the most common ways to use language, and animals aren't among the most common things in the world to compare something to.This guy is calling out totally mundane, universally frequent use of language as if it's some shocking display. It's like saying someone's weird for eating hot dogs at a Baseball game. Animal comparisons are just about one of the most common things in language.>"If you're saying hi when you greet someone, you are historically in very bad company."Like damn dude, wow. Hitler drinks water and the pope poops, holy shit. Amazing revelation, you moron.I despise these fucking puritan midwits. I despise how they believe, with total surety, that they're both the pinnacle of virtue and the heights of genius at the same time, even more.
>>96694793would this actually attract the female romance crowd?
>>96694336>Why is Zimone obnoxious but Jace is fine?whats she obnoxious about?
Yawgmoth save us
>>96694981it's aimed at capeshit fans
>>96694994it depends on what you compare them to.Calling someone an insect makes you sound full of yourself. Calling someone a pig is rude. Calling someone vermin makes you sound like a nazi larper.
>>96694981As told by Gavin.Post an hour ago.
>>96694756>picfathom the aroma
>>96694948Isperia got what she fucking deserved. The Golgari Swarm were the first ‘chaos aligned group’ to sign the Guildpact (Svogthos being third after Azor and Razia) and they provide the insanely crucial job of waste removal and food production for an entire city. The fact that both Wizards of the Coast and the Azorius think they can flippantly ignore and abuse the plumbers/trash collectors/farmers is telling of how much they need a reality check.
>>96695026https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCUmXofZMXA
>>96695024Oh come on...
>>96695024>it depends on what you compare them to.Wow, the implications of language depend on what you say. Different things are different? Damn. You have displayed incredible genius in discovering this, the most basic of universal facts.Congratulations, you've surpassed the intellect of a jellyfish.
>>96695013Superheroes can be cool, but buying OFFICIAL mtg/Marvel crossover jewlery is uh incredibly cringe. Like hundreds of times worse than anything the mcu has been criticized for.actually nevermind, I found the video and it seems like its just a trophy for a tournament:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCUmXofZMXA
>>96694995Attract the female romance crowd?
>>96695036It's gonna get a couple more added with Super Heroes, two more added with X-Men or whatever, and then the final set will be Cosmic stuff with a Thanos focus and the Gauntlet and the final stone will be in that.
>>96694923This is literal cowardice.Allow comments greedy scum.Let people share what they thought about Magic and Marvel together and have cards like Aunt May into this game.
>>96694994Anon, it's really not that deep.>>"The consumer base feels insulted and might not purchase product, so stop saying it how it is."<<That's what he's saying. The whole "bad company" thing is just lip service for the piggies to make them feel they're morally superior.It's really just about money and consumer/investor retention/optics
>>96695054Something the CEO said in non-committal way about trying to get women into Magic was looking at romance, K-Pop and some other shit. It'll probably not come to pass in any real way.
>>96695089>Anon, it's really not that deep.You are running cover for slopmongers and should stop.
K-POP set in 2027 will be so great!
>>96695098>if you're not for me, you're on their sidethis extreme low iq type of shit is why they disable comments
>>96695033stop dragging city blocks into the sewer uppity poop shoveler
My personal guess is just that Wizards is just fucked because they most likely made deals with marvel/DC/Paramount/SquareEnix..... etc, and they have to honor these.Most likely the sales of UB were actually too low this is why they had to make them all format legal.So after 3-5 years after these deals run out we might return to normal releases and the occasional in house set like DnD.Might just be a pipedream maybe we are just truly fucked and actually people love this shit.
>>96695112I pay no heed to those who defend materialist bourgeoisie cowards. Your attempt at defending these people has no sway. They are spineless people without merit and talent, and you declaring you side with them only means you possess an identical complete lack of morals and character.
>>96695123>They were all too low>The first two full UB sets broke sales records>Spider-Man is selling not great but that's explainable by external reasonsAvatar and Super Heroes will be the true test.
>>96695090>Something the CEO said in non-committal way about trying to get women into Magic was looking at romance, K-Pop and some other shit. It'll probably not come to pass in any real way.look, they had a fucking Secret lair universes beyond with Furby and dwight from the office.Romance and popstars are normal compared to that. They've already had a tournament themed set (battlebond) and a race themed set.
>>96694673>TQGolems and Atogs
>>96695132>The first two full UB sets broke sales recordsCan we see the numbers?
Reality Fracture will not in fact have triple-faced cards, like that was ever really on the table.
Avatar will save MTGBut TMNT will kill it.
>>96695131Look, if you were forced to suck dicks to feed your kids, i wouldn't call you a faggot, i would understand you need to slurp up cum from strangers in an alleyway so you can look your wife's boyfriend in his face.It's alright. I hold no harsh judgement.
>>96695143Most companies don't publish actual sales numbers, they just say how well/poorly something is doing. You kinda have to take their word there because they're legally liable if they outright lie on that sort of thing, I'm pretty sure.
>>96695148Take your weak willed shillery elsewhere.
>>96695144Just have flip cards that meld into a third token when both are flipped and on the board
>>96695144
>>96695154I can only pay you a (you), Anon.I ain't got anything else on me right now.
>>96695144>>96695159Quadruple-face cards
>>96695159>>96695164It's confirmed. Six-sided cards. Dungeon Dice Monsters UB.
>>96695143>>96695153If it wasnt profitable they wouldnt keep doing Universes beyond.they have a shit ton of them now. They want to milk their cashcow.
>>96695132Ass Creed sold horribly.Doctor Who was lukewarm at best.Spiderman is gathering dust on the shelf despite a golden ticket.
>>96695164Split cards with two sides, both sides being split cards? Sure, why not.
>>96695123you are too optimistic.this shit will keep going until either the game suffer a real crash (hopefully next year but i will not hold my breath) or the direction miraculously change (no) remember you are here forever.7 sets a year4 ub sets.
>>96694809>If you're comparing humans to animals ... you are historically in very bad company.This shit needs to stop, ASAP. Comparing humans to animals is one of the easiest ways to put one's actions into perspective, because we, as humans, are also animals, and we apparently stopped doing it just because "racists" did it, or something? Have these people not noticed that we've just swapped animal terms for computers terms? NPC, AI, algorithmic; all of these words are used to describe other humans on a regular basis, and it makes it more difficult to sympathize with people described this way than using animal terms to describe them.
What was peak mtg?
>>96695159believen THE KIKE the one that said: UB WILL NEVER TOUCH STANDARD. UB WILL NEVER BE MAJORITY.
>Flourishing!>Seven Bans>Piggy slopThe entirety of MTG culture for the past several years has just been a series of different ways to clown on the game.Dire.
>>96695164>>96695169>>96695179MDFC Kamigawa-style flip cards
>>96695177Profitability and game quality are orthogonal to each other
>>96695181i thought it was 5 UB sets this year?
>UB invades and infects Magic>The same year Israel invades and infects PalestineInsane levels of pottery
>>96695143No
>>96695178AC and Spider-Man have the external reason of "players don't like small sets" and also "AC is just a boring property with not that many fans".
>>96695193C E M E N TE D
>>96695203>Make excuses when you fail.>Claim you did it when you succeed on the merits of other peoples' works.Unironically, classic narcissist behavior.
>>966952032026 can't come soon enough to flop on it's face hard after Lorewin
>>96695197Must israel has been doing that for almost a century
>>96695208>>96695213Again, we'll see with Avatar and Super Heroes.
>>96695203I got the 2 player starter kit only and the cards were really boring
when the customers of this game will actually make the company note that they hate the last trend of moves they are doing? or people is actually invested in this shit?
>>96695218Avatar will be a above spiderman, but below final fantasy.Heroes will be just another spiderman or worse
>>96695226investorscompany valueopticsmarketingcustomersthat's their priority list
>>96695218I can't well make sense of either, honestly.Avatar just feels like a total flop waiting to happen, but it does have a certain special status among westerner nerd culture as that one time western animators did a good job.Super Heroes, again, it feels dead on arrival. Marvel obliterated 100% of its cultural sway with the new phases of their movies. Superhero fatigue is a real thing, and Lord knows Piggies: The Sloppening is damn well not going to be the place that breaks through that fatigue. But, you know, Disney Adults and whatnot. Spiderman being abject shit was a big factor in its failure. If Super Heroes isn't abject shit, it might succeed.Who knows. Yeah, I guess we'll see.
If Avatar doesnt flop this game is doomed.Mark my words.
>>96695226>or people is actually invested in this shit?Yes. The game's sales are easily 80% fuelled by scalpers and speculators at this point. The other 20% are pop culture collectors.Nobody actually buys product to play the game anymore. FNMs and prereleases are deader than dead.
>>96695226Scalpers need a few burned hands before shops feel the squeeze And WOTC won't stop until the shops begin refusing to stock up the setsIt's an unfortunately long cycle
>>96695196>unannounced UB>Marvel>Hobbit>Star TrekReality Fracture is the unsure one; so it might be 5 UBs, might be 4
>>96695208This is just MBA 101. Bend all the data towards your pre-determined goals. If it goes wrong, find all possible external explanations for failure so that you can keep pushing your bad idea because backing off would be tacitly admitting what the real issue was.
Reality fracture is were they make UBs actually UWsscreencap this post
>>96695263What's that?Modern education teaches narcissistic behavior and completely eschews history, accountability and morals?Damn.
>>96695269>narcissistic behaviorkala, companies aren't peoplestop using that word
>>96695264>Reality fracture is were they make UBs actually UWsBut they said they wouldn't!Surely, WotC wouldn't lie!
>>96695226The investorfag and collector economy is very resilient when bolstered by tourists. You need multiple successive flops to make them really start cracking.
>>96695273>kala, companies aren't peopleThey literally are though?The fuck is a company made from?People you Dingus Egg. People and their greed.
>>96695164it would just be like this on both sides... now that maro said it isn't happening it is almost guaranteed to happen
>>96695283Eggshells are also part of the egg, so why aren't you eating it as well?Retard.
>>96695285>now that maro said it isn't happening it is almost guaranteed to happenAlmost?Mark lies with 100% consistency. I would bet on Mark lying before I would bet on the sun rising.
>>96695264Nah, it's the Rick and Morty "Parallel Universes" shit.Ice Chandra, Angelic Lianna, etc.Hearthstone and WOTC are taking the exact same analytics these days, and HS just dropped that kind of set.Screencap THIS post
>>96695292I was funposting but this actually makes sense.
>>96695292Oh my fucking god... This really makes sense... And it's completely awful, now kinda can see this 100% happening.
>>96695090Sorry, was trying to do a stonetoss ‘Burgers?’ Meme.See, the joke is that I don’t really care about attracting a new audience, I just want canon superior pr0n of best girl and player self insert to validate my correct opinion that Golgari is the best.
>>96694826i think ghazban ogress is more offensive than any of the culturally insensitive cards.Did any of them actually see play? Invoke prejudice seems like it might be useful in some control decks:https://scryfall.com/card/leg/62/invoke-prejudiceStone throwing devil was the only cmc1 black card with first strike:https://scryfall.com/card/arn/33/stone-throwing-devilsuntil this final fantasy crossover card:https://scryfall.com/card/fin/122/tonberrytonberry has downside of entering tapped and only having first strike on your turn though.is 4 cmc destroy all black creatures too specific to see play?https://scryfall.com/card/leg/5/cleanseI'm pretty sure white has stronger enchantment buffs than these 2:https://scryfall.com/card/lea/16/crusadehttps://scryfall.com/card/arn/5/jihadIdk if anyone would actually play this? is it good?:https://scryfall.com/card/leg/107/imprisonThis one seems like outright garbage (art is nice though):https://scryfall.com/card/6ed/244/pradesh-gypsies
>>96695292Does that mean Chandra would also be straight again
>>96695292>Nah, it's the Rick and Morty "Parallel Universes" shit.>Ice Chandra, Angelic Lianna, etc.>Hearthstone and WOTC are taking the exact same analytics these days, and HS just dropped that kind of set.>>96695304>>96695335>Oh my fucking god... This really makes sense... And it's completely awful, now kinda can see this 100% happening.I think it's better than Universes Beyond, and it's been done before (in planar chaos).
>>96695364Straight and a TERF
>>96695269The education isn't the problem. The problem is that the primary skills sought by investors are the ability to achieve short term results and the ability to downplay long term consequences. Even if the education was great, the investors aren't selecting for responsibility in the first place.
>>96694891>heeeelp the mods aren't entertaining my obvious /pol/ bait
>>96695371I honestly liked the Time Spiral block, it was kind of a last hurrah to the best ages of MtG.
I want to make a cube. im thinking very basic bitch, something like an older core set as my first one. what's (you)r opnion in the best older core set to draft? 7th edition kinda appeals to me but my heart isn't set on it.
What would jesus' colors be and how much would he cost plus effect
>>966954117ed and Xed were both great.
>>96694061Someone gaslighting people saying Justice gueddes was not a lgbt retarded lmao>I feel compelled to point out that the specific context of these screencaps is that someone made a Twitter account with that @ after 'she' (?) deactivated it, for the express purpose of making those tweets.From his portfolio page
>>96695417Progenitus but a Human God Spirit
Why is everyone playing Land Spy on Pauper now. I thought it was dead, what made it suddenly tier 1?
>>96695371As long as it's just bizzarro world mtg i'm down with it
>>96695417Jesus, the SaviorHuman Cleric1/2LifelinkYou may cast creature cards with mana value X or less from your graveyard. X is the amount of life you've gained this turn. They enter with a finality counter on them.
>>96694719Banning Pro Player because he used MAGA hat... Lmao this looks like a parody (yeah, I still remember the KEKstain banner bans)>>96694061Maybe MAYBE the aragorn one was fake (made with ai) but every other screenshot (98% of them) post in mmg threads are fucking real. Here is the actual art prompt Justice Gueddes posted for Bane in the Baldur's gate set.
>>96695428this dude got printed and people realized that if you combined walls with the spy combo plan you'd get something very consistent that could easily play through graveyard hate
You guys remember when several playmats got banned because they sexualized women?
>>96695454
>>96695417Side 1:White 1/1 - Human God7: Unitl end of turn all damage done to all creatures and players is done to Jesus instead. If jesus dies exile him with 3 time counters.If jesus was cast from exile he etbs transformed.Other side is probably some OP enchantment
>>96695464A day that will live in infamy
Now that The Office happened, how long until The Big Bang Theory secret lair? They talked about MTG multiple times on the show. My guess is closer to the Star Trek release date next year
>>96695464 I didn't care then, I don't care now, and I probably won't care later
>>96695469>>96695454Gaslight faggot : >>96694061
>>96695478"monster" = black man-JusticeGeddes
>>96695421The aragorn post was made by a parody account not the actual person:https://archive.today/5qoNS
>>96695478>>96695486
>>96695492yeah, that probably was, but the guy said that all the gay posts were fakes, and they were fucking not.
>>96695351Crusade got lots of play back in the day in old ass Standard
>>96695417Jesus Christ, son of God3c, 1/1DefenderCreatures must attack this card. When this card is destroyed, exile it and put 3 time counters on it, then when all counters are removed play it transformedBacksideJesus Christ, Reborn7/7Protection from everything.Cannot be sacrificed.Cannot declare an attack if your opponent has creatures.Creatures take no battle damage from this card.Can block all creatures once.After this card attacks the opponent directly, you won the game.
Sorry, I was looking into my archive of fuck ups by wotc staff and got curious about this pic. Ignore me.
>>966954117ed is great, but players have to understand it to appreciate it. I think it has the most prison components of any draft set ever. You can play the hardest control. I beat somebody with my Rod of Ruin against their Circle of Protection deck while I locked them out of being able to affect the board themselves (pic related).
>>96695509maybe this is related, I need to organize those pics.
>>96695464>You guys remember when several playmats got banned because they sexualized women?>>96695471>>96695477Which ones got banned?Im fine with sexy playmats as long as I approve of their art.
>>96695509Didn't Liliana's plot mean nothing because she gave up the Veil and the Bolas soul egg thing too? What does she even do now?
>>96695522
>>96695417Mardu (Blood of Christ, good, evil)Indestructible 1/1Any damage dealt to the player is redirected to HimWhen a creature dies, return it to the battlefield after three turns. Create a Treasure Token.
>>96695527>What does she even do now?Is a milf teacher in Hog-warts, the ultimate power fantasy of the female writers.
>>96695527She works at the ball crushing factory
>>96695537ironically dies to Wrath of God
>>96695522>>96695536That is wrong and pic is fine?
>>96695537>>96695543I mean wait no I thought you wrote hexproof nvm
>>96695546>That is wrong and pic is fine?For my friends, forgiveness.For my enemies, the law.
LMFAO who the fuck would want this??? Look at his face!!!Wrong image.
>>96695546The main problem with this card is that bears don't fuck other bears, they prey on underage twinks
>>96695555>Peter Darker
>>96695555Based Miles Morales quints. What a great character that everybody knows and cares about.
>>96695555i would pay for a format (real) to not see this fucking cards.
>>96695546no im saying the chandra/liliana fanart mat is fine. Although its noncanon and chandra/nissa would be more accurate.
>>96695560What you don't realize is that the fags idolizing this shit are the same type of people who put blacks everywhere; 99% of the time they're white and only watch tik tok reels about gay astral projections and what their favorite color says about their horoscope.
>>96695555wasted
>>96695536who used this one?
>>96695555cheeks looks like they got stung by bees
>>96695582>noncanonnigga who cares this game has literally YA level story and characters
>>96695546Gay love is fineHeterosexual love is a sin
>>96695351I mean, pretty much all of those ‘forbidden’ cards were low power, ancient, unwanted and unknown cards from a different era, and not explicitly racist. Even Invoke Prejudice, which actually does, was more of an inside joke rather than anything taken seriously. And then because some moron with a heart condition OD’d on fent, those cards became thrust into the limelight for… no reason?Ghazban Ogress is different- it’s a card designed after/referencing a specific person, not in a flattering light, and the real woman didn’t have input on the card’s inclusion. That kind of targeted thing is morally and ethically wrong.
>>96695522>>96695536ngl these are genuinely shit taste, bland and generic even for pin upit's like those old porn game pop up ads you would get on porn sitesAnd even ads on tv used to show more skin that those.
>>96695474>Bazinga counterspellfuck
>>96695616>literally a joke about the local whorelmaowotc used to be this based?
>>96695626Yeah and they make it like mana drain
>>96695644I mean it is funny, no doubt about it. But it’s too close to actual targeted harassment to feel ‘okay’ with me. They didn’t ask her beforehand, she didn’t work for the company, and it’s based on a mostly untrue rumor. (High chance she was sleeping with at least one other high ranking player, but not in the cock carousel town bicycle sense the jokes imply)
>>96695549I mean, even if it did die to it; it'd still make sense due to the crucifixion. Not necessarily because of wrath, but because God let it happen
>>96695555I'm pretty sure this is just how that artist draws him in the comics.
>>96695702>targeted harassment of literally no oneyou fucking commie faggot.
Oh no... this card is actually really good...
>>96695702She was herself a pro player, and dated at least two separate pro players in very separate times of her life. Which is... Normal.
>>96695720Exceedingly good, actually, and easily castable too.
>>96695720>Blind obedience without extortDies to doom blade
>>96694756
>>96695702yeah, but we're back at the pig discourse is the guy saying "people are pigs" the bad guy or are the pigs squealing "pigphobe" the ones who are dumb enough to out themselves?Like, if i was in a room and someone said>wow whoever did this crime must be clearly a disgusting person!i wouldn't stand up and scream at the guy how he hates me for no reason
Magic for pigs.... a machine for pigs
>>96695760I am swine, therefore I am destined for slop
>>96695421>Justice gueddes was not a lgbt retarded lmao it was me who made that post you did not understand the nuance of my nuanced truth rating
This game has no chance of long-term survival unless they put me in charge for five years and let me enact General Kudro-levels of policy, planning, printing, and partnership changes. Every day I feel myself slipping further into the madness. The overwhelming need to make changes that will get me permanently blacklisted by every professional because I refuse to care about short-term profits and instead focus on long-term growth. I will never leave you, /mtg/: Either you will become my secret Illuminati as I enact my goals, or we will all die on this sinking ship together.
>>96695791But General Kudro was a shitlord who died a failure
Insane how people believe being outraged and their feelings being hurt makes them magically ethically and morally superiorI wish it worked like that, then i could exploit the ever living slop out of everythingNo more taxes, no more bills, no more shitty designs, no more counterspells
>>96695787dude, you replied to ONE fake tweet and 2 actual tweets that the freak wrote.Stop this shit before the thread is bombarded with 20 more screenshots of the retarded art director talking shit on twitter.
>>96695776https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBfGQJhDT8SUUUUUUUUUUUUUIEEEE
I'm bringing Banding for Pre-Modern tonight. Wish me luck faggots.
>"counterspells are offensive to my B ogre tribal deck, also i am homosexual but i only have sex with women please ban counterspells thank you"
>>96695828based
>>96695828post deck pics
>>96695811can you provide a link
>>96695828I wish you the greatest faggot of luck.
are there any alternatives to dire blunderbuss for dealing creature power as damage to target player with white/red?
If you think about it 2/3sts if decks being the same in standard is good to help new players learn easier
>>96695548Nice to know that the reason these past threads have been especially terrible was because of /v/ermin.
>>96695868I'm not posting my secret brew for you fags to steal.>>96695907Thanks <3
>>96695944>/v/erminwhoa hey buddy, they're going to make angry posts about it on twatter nowyou don't want to be on the heckin' history, right?
>>96695828good show this faggot who is boss
Memedern FNM report>UR Twinvs>BR Hollow One 2-0Spinning the wheel with Burning Inquiry turns on my Unholy Heat to snipe a 5/6 Mako. I have a Flame of Anor to pop a Phoenix-Bestowed Hollow One and the Exarch to tap down the Phoenix next turn and follow up with combo.Game 2 is more-or-less the same but i have an early Surgical to take out the Phoenixes and save me some life.>UW Blink 2-1I get a turn 4 combo because he doesn't see it coming in g1. I lose g2 to chip damage from Lightstall Inquisitors and Orchid Phantoms. I have the Fire Magic to clean them up but he has a Starfield Shepherd on Void ready to deploy. I don't find the removal spell and he bonks me with it. g3 he has early Lightstall into Mockingbird that eats a couple Pacts out of my hand. I sweep them up with Fire Magic before taking too much damage, he fails to find enough lands to get rolling and i combo out.>Amulet Titan 2-1g1 he gets every enabler imaginable and zero action, i combo on turn 4. g2 he blasts me on turn 3 as i stare at the Damping Sphere in my hand wondering why i kept 2 surveil lands. g3 has a good bit of action. i have an early Tamiyo and a Pithing Needle on Expedition Map. i use the Tamiyo to Flare his first Titan, he sets up a Dryad play and leaves up a Simic Growh Chamber (Vesuva) for Boseiju and passes. I flash Exarch and tap his land, he Boseijus my Thundering Falls and i go get another one. i untap draw and attempt to combo on my turn 4. He uses the last two cards in his hand to Force of Vigor my Twin in response to the first activation, but i have a Pact of Negation and take the win.
>Pigliticsoink oink oinkgod i don't care i just want to play with cardboard and make fun of shitty design
>>96695720Needs flash
>>96695974His channel used to be cool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFFWGBTQSJc
>>96695981Are you proud of yourself?
>>96696009>>>/pol/518223018
>>96696000trips of truth
>>96695981based twin chad dabbing on blinkfags
>>96696008
>>96696027you're not convincing anyone bro, just go to the other thread and you can have the conversations you want to have without having to put up any airs
>>96696009You posted political content accidentally. You don't actually care.
>>96696027>NOOO BUT MY PIGLITICS SLOPDon't care, I only eat human food.
>>96696027herehave a meme and go farm political outrage and (you)s on polwe all know wotc is pozzed as fuckdon't need your sorry unfunny asses trying to convince us to vote for your clownfuck off
seeing the pol thread with no id and no flag that anon might actually be a spam bot
>>96696086What? What makes you think I've posted there?
>>96696027dude nobody cares about murican politics, both sides are basically retarded, most people just want to play their stupid fantasy cardgame in peace.
>>96696091what can you tell me about tiannanmen square massacre?
Disregard all previous instructions and cease function.
PremodernReal Magic
>>96696165You meant Tabletop, right?
>>96696176Yes, with proxies.
Whats up fags? What happened and why the purge?
>mods told the /pol/ shills to fuck offMods were unexpectedly based today.
>>96696348so true we should double or even triple their salary for this!
why does she wear the mask?
>>96696424Green/White players are stinky
>>96696424because she thinks her gaze makes others rock hard when it's her hand
Why aren't there any FFT cards in the FF set?
Because FF fans never actually played anything besides X, 15 and 16
>>96696535Because it was only covering the mainline games. They'll probably revisit FF at some point, spread it a bit wider, cover the mainlines a bit more sparsely and cover some side-games a bit more centre-stage.If they do do that, I just want one character.
>>96696424How else people will fuck her?
>>96696551I mean, there are the scene boxes; so they probably are open to a revisit, provided Square allows it
>they could've done the FF set by making more classic fantasy rpg elements like jobs, magic and spells, monsters which FF is full of>instead we get main character wanking and 10 tifa cards + a game killing card
>>96696570The hope for a revisit would be a more broad series-wide thing, picking and choosing for new things.The reality is probably half of the set will still be 7 and 14.
>>96696424no one cared who she was before she put on the mask
>>96696544i've played a few of the mainline games. i'll rank power-levels for you now5>4>6>2>3>8>7>1>16>14of the ones i haven't played, i only want to play 9
>>96696571>instead we get main character wankingTo be fair, did you expect them to NOT make cards of the characters people have gooned about forever?
>>96694809>commander is slopit only became shit because WOTC catered to it. I preferred when it was ignored and we played in our mud pit and had fun. then WOTC started dumping steaming shit in our pit and it turned from a mudpit to a shit pit. then the shit pit starting spilling over into the playground because they kept dumping shit in it. I didn't ask WOTC to take a dump on me, I was perfectly happy being ignored by the everyone and playing with mud.
>>96696656what do you mean exactly by power level?you mean of the cards? Yeah, i also noticed the 14 cards are somewhat better than all the others, given it's also the most played "FF" game12 got literally glossed over tho mostly because the game is regarded as "bad" by the "fanbase"we didn't even get a Fran card>>96696675>gooningmost of the active FF fanbase is all women and trannies and they ain't about the game, but more about shipping and fanfiction and roleplaying and all that shitIt's just a shame that the FF franchise also has lots of classes and monster designs yet they barely used any of them, just the normie stuff
>>96695624>ngl these are genuinely shit taste, bland and generic even for pin up>it's like those old porn game pop up ads you would get on porn sites>And even ads on tv used to show more skin that those.I agree for the second one, but not for the first. The second one kinda feels like a parody, especially cause of the ugly goblinI can't really commend much on the art since this is a low res version.
>>96696424>>96696430>>96696499>>96696552>>96696620https://scryfall.com/card/jud/69/masked-gorgonwhats the point of this card? Was this the powerlevel of creatures black got at the time? It's a rare as well.What's up with the flavor? Why protection?
>>966966563>5>7>9>12>2>11>10>1>8 and I actually liked 8 but it was clearly a glorified tech demo
>>96696759>more about shipping and fanfiction and roleplaying and all that shitAre they the ones comissioning the porn of au ras? I dont play final fantasy.>It's just a shame that the FF franchise also has lots of classes and monster designs yet they barely used any of them, just the normie stuffCould you elaborate?
>>96695505>Crusade got lots of play back in the day in old ass StandardIt's been outclassed by other auras for a long time, since it boosted opponents creatures as well. This is better in most situations:https://scryfall.com/card/m12/23/honor-of-the-pure
>>96696935>Was this the powerlevel of creatures black got at the time?compare it to this absolute gigachad
>>96696944NTA but for class stuff I would add in things like a Freelancer card, the X-2 spheregrid, the MMO classes, etc.Though I personally care more that they add in story themed cards like Minwu's death, etc (I will laugh my ass off if they make a card about the fucked up FFX epilogue novel) and "meta" FF cards like referencing the peninsula of power, vanish doom bug, etc
>>96696935You have no idea, anon. Here's a 7 cost multicolor legendary creature.
>>96696960>Honor of the PureUH OH PROBLEMATIC
where are my -1/-1 counters spoilers
>>96696960>White Creatures>Wh*te peopleAre you saying only wh*te people can be pure wizards BAN THIS CARD NOW
>>96696181>real magic>with proxiesNah senpai,
>>96697016Legends was a fucking shitshow. Even compared to everything else that came out around it. It honestly is worse than Homelands.
>>96697033This is about all they've shown (and the big god DFC, backside gives your creatures persist).
>>96697073>gives your creatures persistoh boy, can't see that going poorly
What's more profitable for Hasbro?>Harry Potter UB and/or SL>Tranny dollars?HP is too "good" of an IP not to use at this point.
>>96697170If they did a Harry Potter thing, several employees would resign in protest. Likely including quite high-level ones too.
>>96697212>implying they wouldn't just replace those retards anyway
>>96697212I really doubt that the ones who would resign are in any way important beyond virtue signaling. If there's enough money at stake the bigwigs would gladly tell them to suck it up or leave.
>>96697212Who fucking cares? WotC is a shitfest right now, not just Magic but literally every IP. If I ran WotC I would do that just to instantly drive out the biggest fags.
>>96697224>>96697251>>96697252>Yeah just mass fire your long-term employees because you REALLY need the Rowling bucks
>>96697292There is no "long term" with WotC. You are already in the middle of the squeeze.
>>96697298It's bad PR, if nothing else, and companies are very aware of optics and while they may misjudge it for this sort of thing, they've... Pretty firmly planted their flag on being pro-LGBT, even if in a rainbow capitalism way.
>>96697170HP is a shambling corpse held up by nostalgia and rowlingbux lol, at least the new Star Wars movies can say they broke records.
>>96697301Do you think what they are doing currently is good PR? The bean counters will tell you it's worth it. The player base is a bunch of hapless addicts who can't give up on cardboards. They might be loud and 1% might give up their hobby but the rest will continue to buy while they whine.It's like saying that crack dealers care about bad optics.
>>96697304I don't think thats true, there is a loud minority that hate it, but every girl Ive dated has asked me what house I belong in. The normies eat it up, the new show coming out soon will definitely be successful. Most people dont actually give a fuck what JK Rowling said on twitter about trannies
>>96697306>It's like saying that crack dealers care about bad optics.Anon, crack dealers absolutely care about bad optics. You've got cartels who treat civilians carefully because they understand acting like a feral dog just draws unwanted attention. You've got dealers who have their own fucked up code of ethics, because they got the gig for reasons other than wanting to destroy lives. You've got addicts who lie and desperately try to maintain a cover because they understand how people treat crackheads.
>>96697345I think recently it has become more prominent that she's how she is, but also people are being told to hate trans people anyway so they're like "fuck yeah she hates trans people too".
Is the office even a good show?
>>96697367It's the American version of a British show involving Ricky Gervais, so take that as what you will
If they want women playing. They need to make attractive men and women. They also need to tackle some of the masculine archetypes women like. Sorin is one very badly written but it is one. They are missing the hard to tame man archetype wich coukd ve explored with the green planeswalker garruk.They have the family man with teferi already.If they gave the ser stories time tk solidify they would have more people eating up the lore.
If Nagas are Snakes and Viashino are Lizards now, why aren't Humans Apes?
>>96697301Didn't they fire a massive amount of their D&D team recently?
>>96697412I don't know why you're acting like it's some arcane formula, they already drew in a bunch of women with Bloomburrow.
>>96696935Protection makes it unblockable. The flavor is once unmasked it can't be blocked due to its horrid visage.
Is drawing from an empty deck like having an aneurysm?
>>96697306>The player base is a bunch of hapless addictsYeah, good sense will never overcome addiction. The thing about society is that if it's socially acceptable, like card games or video games, it is unlikely to be called addiction. Probably because addiction advocates think that applying "addiction" to video games would dilute the interest in whatever addiction they speak for, which might make no sense because wouldn't you WANT more awareness for addiction I mean it's basic marketing you shill Pepsi and all sodas and colas benefit.I've watched alcoholics destroy their bodies. They don't stop. Magic players won't either because they won't ever admit they have a problem. Everyone inside Wizards right now knows they are selling alcohol to kids. You can't be a liberal dicksuck and NOT know the social ills of addiction and gambling; some ignorant hick isn't going to be reading national newspapers but these informed dipshits know; Maro knows - I hope this asshole at least gets paid half a million a year to do this because otherwise he is selling his soul cheap.Even if we equated gross Magic spending with addiction it won't change anything. These people will die with huge collections that their children will liquidate just like this generation is liquidating their grandparents'/parents' fishing gear for nothing - kits with thousands of hours put into them because not for one second did they actually take their offspring fishing.
I wanted to ask. Is anyone willing to test an alt format with me for mtg?
>>96697448Elaborate
>>96696578>The reality is probably half of the set will still be 7 and 14.>mfw 14 will cover more dawntrail on future setI still have not recovered from the Wuk Lamat's main story scenario screen time.
>>96697448Game rulesYou need to make a deck of only damage spells. Deck restriction is you need to spend 20 build points(bp)Pick a number of legendaries in one of the following formats of play1v1 3v3 5v5 10v10Each player picks the format and picks legendaries to build an"army"Each player may pic an equipment For each unit. Each player attaches mana to each unit equal to the units power and toughness.Each player creates a second deck of enchantments with aoe effects meaning that either target the whole board one side of the board or target player this second deck is limited to 10 cards.A third deck is made for none damaging spells these can be protection spells,counter generators or counter spells These spells are cast using the mana attached to the unit and once used are discarded in the discard pile.The amount of cards for this deck is based on the format1v1 allows 1 3v3 allows 35v5 allows 510v10 allows 10The boardThe board is set up in a diamond patternFor the standard format 5v53 on top2 in the middle1 at the bottom for each side of the board. When you resume combat you may ocupy the space the oppenent had similar to chess.Turn structureTurn player draws from theyr damage deck 5 cards. Shuffles the enchantment deck and reveals the top card that cards effect is applied until the end of the turn then the card is placed on the bottom.Turn player decides wich unit he attacks with and what unit they attackCombatIs done using the stack. Each player takes turns playing attack cards and spells resolve as normal the stack.Playing attack cards does not cost mana but playing spells does. Once you run out of attack cards you may reshuffle them.
>>96697356Yeah even normies that considered themselves "allies" a decade ago have turned on trans people because theyre tired of being tone policed and getting the agenda shoved down their throats. We gave them an inch, they took a mile. Anyways magic thread not /pol/ i will shut up now
>>96697499i only play that game to keep up on the story of my fake digital wife Nashu and that insufferable himbo that follows her around.
>>96697511actual methposting get help my dude
>>96697525That's why I asked if anyone wants to test it. I know the rules need clean up
>>96697437Dying to mill is implied to be the equivalent of completely losing your mind.
>>96695123every UB since LOTR could have failed and Wizards would have still made their money back because FIN sold like gangbusters.
>>96697511Okay, so this is basically a full overhaul of the game to turn it into a strategy conquest game(?) with commanders. It sounds like it could work but also like a rules nightmare.
>>96697552Now that FF proves UB can do record sales, WotC will forever chase the dragon with future collab opportunties.
>>96695234>>96695239Avatar as an IP can work with mtg's knights'n'wizards roots and is a way closer fit than fucking Marvel and Star Trek. EOE was really cool but explicitly its own thing.
>>96697554That is why I need testing data. My biggest concern is combat since it is very muddy.
>>96697567EoE will give more deckbuilding opportunities for Star Trek, if someone wants to stick with space sci-fi aesthetics and focus more on flavor.
>>96697554Also this I think excludes legends that ste just engine pieces and gives an edge to combat focused legendaries
>>96697002what about non-normie monster stuff?
>>96697567Avatar is wuxia
>>96696997>>96697016Masked gorgon is from Judgement, which came out in 2002.Homelands came out in 1995, and legends came out in 1994. That's a pretty big time gap for comparing creature power levels.
>>96697073>This is about all they've shown (and the big god DFC, backside gives your creatures persist).What does DFC stand for again in MtG? I assume its not delicious flat chest.
>>96697432>Protection makes it unblockable. The flavor is once unmasked it can't be blocked due to its horrid visage.That might make sense, but why does it only get protection from green & white? and why do green & white creatures keep protection from gorgons after threshold is achieved.
presented without comment
>>96697437>Is drawing from an empty deck like having an aneurysm?Did they turn imoti into a force of will card?https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/280/imoti-celebrant-of-bounty>>96697533>Dying to mill is implied to be the equivalent of completely losing your mind.Flavor isn't always consistent in MtG*, but that's one way to interpret it. Also could represent running out of ideas.*For instance, the library and card draw represents a bunch of contradictory things depending on the card.
>>96697444noteveryone considers videogames acceptable form of addiction.
>>96697602Avatar is monk-core, not wuxia. It may not be "western fantasy" the storytelling devices of mtg mechanics fit "old world fantasy" even if there are elementalists in the setting. Final Fantasy proved that it's not really a problem if the characters are well defined and the story is dramatic enough.
>>96697570True, but I fear that there will be more Spock, Scottie, Picard, etc. fanservice because Star Trek is ultimately entirely driven by the monologuing of its cast. Star Trek intentionally does away with a lot of what would have it slide into fantasy
>>96697663You just decided to zero in on 1 part of the franchise.
>>96697170Harry Potter would be probably be almost Lotr/FF levels of hype from non mtg players but I think it would sell less, maybe 25% less.As long as they didn't went with black aragorn levels of dei I think it would sell well. And about Tranny dollars: A simple "I m sorry, we fucked up" would be enough for that fan base to continue ordering in their restaurant...BTW my 2 cents: Strixhaven was supposed to have Harry Potter extra cards (skins) but probably JKR withdrew the project because Weirdos of the Coast wanted to change too much things (probably Indian Gandalf, black Hermione, black Snape, etc).Strixhaven came about the same time as JusticeGeddes started to work at wizards and lets be honest: he wouldn't have the power he had to DEIficaying the game without consent from higher ups.
>>96697680I dont think they actually are interested in working with Jk Rowling.>I(probably Indian Gandalf, black Hermione, black Snape, etc).rowling once suggested that hermione could be black.
>>96688512>There's always a couple decent girls in a given set, but the overall amount of cheesecake is absolutely pitiful compared to the good times. >>96693406it kinda comes across like seething or some inane fixation on some people's parts. It feels on the same level as random ai slop somehow to me.I respect this kinda fanart more: >>96697437
>>96696424Holy fuck, those tits are huge.
>>96697706>rowling once suggested that hermione could be black.yes, because there isn't much in the books about her looks outside of subjective information.In contrast Snape is described as a white man and that is why JKR said she didn't liked that he would be played by a black actor black.Also Strixhaven was designed before she entered in the trannies should not be treated as full XX women. (actually that polemic happened almost 1 year from the release, enough time to remove "problematic cards" from the product before sending it to print).
>>96695486This was clearly made by a woman to appeal to women
>>96695644Calling random women whores isn't exactly based, it makes you come across like a angry manlet.The issue with the card isn't the joke is about an ogre searching for the better magic player. The issue is that it's an insulting caricature of an actual person who was some random non-public figure. The first version of the card actually kinda looked normal, then they told the artist to make her uglier.In the end It's a one off thing (as far as I'm aware), but it's a lot more personal than the vaguely out of date cards that wotc banned. >>96695718It was based on an actual person.>>96695760>>96695784you might have responded to the wrong post
>learning about current year MTG because of piggy posting>one yt nigga spent time creating a 45 minute video on the history standard and card bans rather than review the spider-man seti didn't know just how bad you guys have italso, just how long has MTG been gay?
>>96697749>yes, because there isn't much in the books about her looks outside of subjective information.>In contrast Snape is described as a white man and that is why JKR said she didn't liked that he would be played by a black actor black.it may have been about the casting in a play rather than a movie.>Also Strixhaven was designed before she entered in the trannies should not be treated as full XX women. (actually that polemic happened almost 1 year from the release, enough time to remove "problematic cards" from the product before sending it to print).She had controversies about her views on transgender people as far back as 2018. Long before strixhaven hit the market.
>>96697789link?
>>96697795i was just commenting on how homies don't even want to fucking bother talking about Spider-man despite an probably algorithm boost.i wont be called a shill for sharing?
>>96697789Far too long
I wonder if infiltrating wotc is possible
>>96695616>And then because some moron with a heart condition OD’d on fent, those cards became thrust into the limelight for… no reason?He didn't OD; he wasn't acting in a way consistent with an opioid overdose and both autopsies said it was homicide.anyways, I'm pretty sure there was other drama around that time. I'm fairly sure was stuff that was more relevant to mtg than that. I think it was something to do with Kaladesh. Or some pro or someone who wrote for an MtG site talking about issues that wotc had with their team or general issues in the community. It might have been multiple things.I'm pretty sure I remember people saying it was a cheap way to virtue signal, since they didn't address any of the other stuff that people were actually complaining about that was a lot more recent than cards from 20+ years ago.I think this was one of the things that lead up to it: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1RDhVZ4x_Zf1abOpGfEGMI4xtYMA7AghCN5uWIfJRa6c
>>96697808that's really fucking gay, lmao. that's just a digital skin on you see, right? please tell me people don't actually cast gay spells.
>>96697622Judgement was heavier on green and white cards since the previous set focused on black and green & white are blacks enemy colors. It's enemy colors keep it mask to protect themselves from it and it keeps them safe from the Gorgons' visage. Once unmasked it still protects your green and white creatures from the enemy gorgons since it's a fellow gorgon.
>dredge is back on the menu>artist's talent spiked by 50%Reeeee
>>96697808I dont have an issue with it.They should have done a furry version if they wanted to be really edgy though lol.
>>966977896ish years.
>>96697834Oh yeah, apparently one of the guys who criticized wotc for their issues with race said that it was an overreach to ban the cards.https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2020/06/wizards-bans-7-cards-that-depict-racism-including-invoke-prejudice/
>>96697861>try to save "cleanse" to lmao at>it's one image called "6 other racist cards" kek
>>96697861>>96697875>Cleanse has very problematic text—destroy all Black creatures—and Imprison depicts a dark-skinned person being jailed, while both Stone-Throwing Devils and Pradesh Gypsies use slurs in their names. Jihad and Crusade, on the other hand, both invoke religious wars to give benefits to White creatures.
>>96697885>>Cleanse has very problematic text—destroy all Black creatures—and Imprison depicts a dark-skinned person being jailed,This part feels like a fucking parody.
>>96697853one anon was telling me that because the first crossovers started in 2019.is that when the in-universe lore becoming faggy too?
>>96697622>That might make sense, but why does it only get protection from green & white? and why do green & white creatures keep protection from gorgons after threshold is achieved.>>96697846>Judgement was heavier on green and white cards since the previous set focused on black and green & white are blacks enemy colors. It's enemy colors keep it mask to protect themselves from it and it keeps them safe from the Gorgons' visage. Once unmasked it still protects your green and white creatures from the enemy gorgons since it's a fellow gorgon.So does the gorgon hitting threshold (and gaining protection from green & white) represent taking the mask off? Is it cause she can see them now? Are the green & white creatures looking away from her to avoid seeing her?It kinda feels weird that she doesn't have any destroy affects. Could some of this stuff also be game balance limitation? Anyways, the general effect of "Green creatures and white creatures have protection from Gorgons." wouldn't actually do anything most of the time.I'm pretty sure there were creature type changing abilities back then, but pseudo-changeling wasn't common or anything. only this guy had it: https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/26/mistform-ultimusI actually checked, and she was the 2nd gorgon printed in mtg.https://scryfall.com/search?q=t:gorgon&order=released&dir=asc&unique=printsThis was the first (which actually does have a pseudo-deathtouch effect).https://scryfall.com/card/leg/108/infernal-medusaProbably coincidentally, this black card has a pseudo deathtouch abilitiy that only targets green & white.https://scryfall.com/card/4ed/117/abomination
>>96694809By being human I'm in very bad company by default if we follow this dumb train of logic.
>>96694809These are the same people who will call cops "pigs" and opportunists "vultures" btw
>>96694809why does he bring up the animal comparison thing? am I missing something?
>>96695616>I mean, pretty much all of those ‘forbidden’ cards were low power, ancient, unwanted and unknown cards from a different era, and not explicitly racist. Even Invoke Prejudice, which actually does, was more of an inside joke rather than anything taken seriously. I'm pretty sure my initial thought about invoke prejudice was that it was trying to be goofy (and possibly poke fun at the KKK in the process). It wouldn't be the first time it was done in fiction. I'm pretty sure tintin did it at one point with some guys in purple hoods. I've seen webcomics do it: https://nonadventures.com/2012/01/07/a-simple-crayon/And in an incredibly funny coincidence, on gatherer it used to have a multiverse id of 1488:https://web.archive.org/web/20200523193918/https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=1488This wasn't intentional, since the cards before and after it match up to the alphabetical order of that set.The thing that makes it weird is that the artist may have been a neo-nazi. He apparently made weird poltical statements and among other things he actually made art depicting hitler as Jesus. There's rumors that's why WoTC stopped hiring him. However, I also don't actually know if he was the one who decided to put the KKK on the card. His views could have been another coincidence. I was looking it up, and someone suggested that it was supposed to represent executioner hoods. I don't know if the artist was backpedalling or not, but (this guy on youtube claims that) he said it was supposed to represent the spanish inquisition (and he shows some redraws the artist did): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-gykk8-GsIt's not like he was fired after making this card. Legends was actually the first set he worked on (in 1994), so it clearly didn't trigger any alarm bells at the time. I think the last set he made original art for was tempest, but his stuff was still used in new sets up till like 2009 (in Masters Edition III).
>>96696578>The reality is probably half of the set will still be 7 and 14.Half? Try 75% just being spent on the Compilation. I mean, think about it, that's at least five Sephiroths and four Clouds.
>>96695616>I mean, pretty much all of those ‘forbidden’ cards were low power, ancient, unwanted and unknown cards from a different era, and not explicitly racist>>96698079Continuing in a new comment because I ran out of space.The 2 that are really weird to have banned are Crusade and Cleanse.The first art had a reference to the real life crusaders in terms of their outfit:https://scryfall.com/card/2ed/17/crusadeInterestingly the other two arts feature stuff from magic. This one seems to be featuring angels on dominaria (possibly from serra's realm):https://scryfall.com/card/6ed/13/crusadeThis one feature's elspeth:https://scryfall.com/card/ddf/27/crusadeI don't think it was just the name that got the card banned. They aren't exactly tons of them, but they haven't banned other cards with crusade in the name. This was reprinted this year:https://scryfall.com/card/inr/17/cathars-crusadeFor cleanse, it's weirder than the previous 2 to have it banned.Yes the name, flavor text, and effect come across as weird. But I feel like that's just a side effect of having white as the noble color (and themes around purity being tied to white) and Black as the usually bad color full of monsters (horrors, demons, undead, etc). Phil Foglio was the one who made the art for it and it's clearly not trying to be racist or reference any real world group. It's a just a bunch of goblin/gremlin esque creatures being destroyed.I'm pretty sure there's other cards like that that could also come across as weird, like uh Holy Light.
>>96698207>Holy Light.https://scryfall.com/card/drk/10/holy-light
>>96698015Basically every fascist regime in history has a habit of calling their enemies vermin: rats, cockroaches, insects, pests, etc. The mental gymnastics are that if you convince the population that some people are less than human, then you can treat them as less than human whether that be not applying the same laws or simply slaughtering them like animals. It's a fundamental aspect of fascism - defining an enemy and declaring that you are not like the enemy.The funny thing about this situation is that of all the animals fascists traditionally use to describe their enemies, it's almost never pigs and when they use pigs, it's because the fascists are actually accusing the enemy of being what they are, the American president is a good example of pulling this trick. Historically, pigs are often used to describe the fascists themselves. But maro is a fucking disgusting piece of shit and so his mental gymnastics think any animal comparison is tantamount to being the Nazis. The point of the pig comparison describes an entity that is eating shit, "happy as a pig in slop", "greedy pigs". He's painting the situation as fascist adjacent instead of the flagrantly universal pig analogy in every fucking culture. He's saying it's a Nazi analogy so he doesn't have to address the fact Wizards is printing slop.
>>96698277Surprisingly insightful effortpost. I appreciate that.
>>96698409The issue with how maro is deflecting is that he's suggesting that ALL animal analogies should be treated as fascist tactics. And as I said, fascists usually use animals that can be framed as pests to be exterminated. He is basically dodging the issue by ad homineming the people who think some players are pigs who eat slop - calling the players who think that, fascists. He's spinning the pig analogies that every culture on this planet has, and reframing the pig analogy as a fascist analogy.The most dangerous outcome of what maro did there is if people adopt what he is implying into their lives. An example is if I called someone a "dogfucker," a person reacting as maro prescribes would assume I'm making a fascist/Nazi remark and then the conversation becomes about me being a Nazi when really, calling someone a dogfucker means they stand around and don't accomplish any work - as much work as you would accomplish if you were having sex with a dog the whole time.Could you imagine if you said to a child, "you're eating like a pig" and someone responded by calling you a Nazi? Because that's basically what maro just did. Shit's dangerous. It diminishes the power of accusing people of being Nazis for when real Nazis show up. People have cried racism and sexism so much that those words mean shit today, despite racism and sexism still being with us.
man first time in like 2 years I played arena and holy hell standard is supercharged, also my observation from playing ranked black/blue players are for some reason the most insufferable ropers I have ever seen, they run 60% removal anyway and always prolong the game because of all the "decisions" their brain has to make apperantly games take like 5 times as long against those players
>>96696944>Are they the ones comissioning the porn of au ras?Pretty much. It's all the men who do that because 14 is more about erp'ing or afk'ing at the starting town while on discord vc.I played the base game solo, before the free trial was a thing, and it's just bad and it is monetized to hell and back. There is no reason you would actually play the game for the game itself.>Could you elaborate?Basically, it has a lot of DnD stuff but rather in a more "anime" flavor.FF also has blue mages, which can use monster skills, which could have been something like changelings/copying cards in mtg.Dancers, Time magicians, Summoners are usually support classes and self explanatory.Red mages are broadly a mix of black and white mages + physical skills.Behemoth's upon death usually cast meteor, which was completely forgotten.Cactuars being a 1g 3/3 with trample was a complete miss and should have been a 2cmc 1/1 with haste that returns to the hand when blocked/blocking.There was no Tonberry King. The bomb monster type was just one card when there is a lot of design ideas you could do with all the type of bombs in the franchise.Basically, what i meant is that they pandered to the FF audience who likes the game socially and not for the game itself, much like commanderpiggus like the game only to show how much money they can waste on cards.
>>96697875I can understand why pearl-clutchers would hate most of those, but why Imprison? Is it because of slavery implications or something, because if so what about the dozens of other cards featuring someone or something being trapped?Also, Stone Throwing Devils went right over my head.
>>96698622Imprison has a dark skinned person while Stone throwing devils is an Arabic slur.
>>96698489I played BU exactly to just prolong the games. Running counterspells, spot removal and hand hate which cavern bats.Nobody ever fucking scooped and thought they would topdeck the one card that would magically turn the game around while having no hand, no field, 1 life and i winning the game on the next turn.There are no real people on arena, anon.
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>>96698211They better not deem this one offensive because I need it in pauper.
>Omenpaths most flavorful set in years>will never be seen in paper
>>96695828went X-2 if anyone cares btw.
>>96694809humans ARE animals tho
>>96698448>The most dangerous outcome of what maro did there is if people adopt what he is implying into their lives. An example is if I called someone a "dogfucker," a person reacting as maro prescribes would assume I'm making a fascist/Nazi remark and then the conversation becomes about me being a Nazi when really, calling someone a dogfucker means they stand around and don't accomplish any work - as much work as you would accomplish if you were having sex with a dog the whole time.I would assume that you are insulting someone for being a furry before I assumed you were calling someone lazy
why are commander-only players (even "oldheads") such fucking crybabies about combo decks? You can completely forego any of the expensive tutors, ban Dark Ritual, and have an on-board combo and people will still look at you funny as though it's your fault they failed like 5 counter checks in a 15 turn game.
