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Previous: >>96681816

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What card do you wish they would reprint more
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Thinking of building Wraith, it's interesting how many good auras become unimportant once your commander can't be blocked
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>>96688307
>What card do you wish they would reprint more

Sensei's Divining Top. I'd put it in every deck if it wasn't so expensive.
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>>96688321
This and Scroll Rack!
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>>96688307
>TQ
The Ozolith.
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>>96688307
>TQ
Fetches
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>>96688307
True duals
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>>96688346
>spotted the poorfag!
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>>96688339
They should put one fetch of the most common two colors in the deck in every precon. it would slowly pump more into the market and improve the precons while not making them too much value
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>TQ
Battlebond lands. Seriously, why are these not in every precon like sol ring and other staples are? It's not like shocks or something where if you reprint they fuck up other formats markets.
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>>96688307
>TQ
Not exactly cards, but I hope next year's Hobbit set means they plan to rerun more LotR precons if they don't release any Hobbit precons. This is only wild early speculation, but I don't believe there's any chance Hobbit will have enough precons due to book's available material.
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>>96688307
>TQ
The "you can run any number of" cards.
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>>96688400
ENTER
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>>96688307
>What card do you wish they would reprint more
All the lands.

I had to explain this to a friend who is recently showing interest in the game (not thanks to UB, thank god)
>unless you really build on a budget, about half the monetary value in your deck will be lands
He couldn't believe it. He couldn't see why they would be so expensive if they're such a basic part of the game. And I had to explain to him, that's exactly the fucking reason. Printing chase cards for retards to gamble for every set means fucking with the power balance of the game, and it's very difficult to print a card that actually most decks need/want. But with lands, its easy. Everyone needs lands. If you just print lands with powerful effects and then barely fucking reprint them, there is always something to crack packs for.

I hate it. Lands should be printed into the fucking dirt. No land should ever be above $2.
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>>96688307
>What card do you wish they would reprint more
Enemy color fetchlands in non premium printings
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>>96688397
>Smaug
>Thorin
>Gandalf
>Bilbo
4 commanders right there
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>>96688307
>What card do you wish they would reprint more
Urborg
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>>96688375
like they give a shit about other formats' markets anymore
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>>96688438
They care about extracting as much money as possible from them. Battlebond lands should basically be free like command tower is, since they can't be played elsewhere.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96688425
>not a single female face commander
Uh oh.
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>>96688425
You just named all 4 characters in the book. Can you not see the problem with that? they have to make a full set out of one novel. We already have like 6 different gandalfs now theyre going to add 10 more.
This will also be a problem with ninja turtles, the entire show basically has 6 important characters, it's not a big franchise. Spiderman at least had the spiderverse gimmick already.
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>>96688397
Smug better be the most badass dragon ever printed
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>>96688462
It's been a while, are there any named character women in Hobbit at all? Does Radagast have a wife or am I confusing that with Tom Bombadil? There has to be a woman among the wood elves right? I seriously can't remember
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>>96688307
WHITE CATCH UP RAMP
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>>96688475
They should do 2 precons- Thorin's company and the orcs and trolls, spiders and smaug.
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>>96688487
I think Bjorn the bear shapeshifter had a wife, maybe I'm wrong.
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>>96688451
I guarantee someone at Hasbro is bemoaning that they made Command Tower and Sol Ring part of the first precons before they went full Jew instead of premium chase products.
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>>96688487
Hobbit women, yes. I can't think of anyone else.
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>>96688475
>You just named all 4 characters in the book.
There's 12 dwarves
>Can you not see the problem with that? they have to make a full set out of one novel.
Buddy-boy it is a book FAMOUS for how much fucking shit happens in it
You've got trolls, worgs, goblins, giant spiders, elves, a bear wizard, gollum, eagles
It is literally LotR lite. If they managed to make 3 fucking movies out of it, I think they can make 4 precons
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>>96688487
Second and third movie has Tauriel, but first Tolkien set didn't borrow material from movies.
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2c Backgrounds when?
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>>96688307
I hate Funko Pop tier precon faggots,
>"I'm a newer player and I GUESS you can say I have, uh umm, an addiction"
>Picture of like 8 commander decks in overcosted and unnecessary deckboxes, 7/8 are precons with little to no modifications, and maybe like 1 "original" brew (mostly EDHrec slop)
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>>96688518
a blue black one please
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>>96688518
never, good slop piles and cedh needs to die
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>>96688500
According to AI there are 0 named female characters with any lines in the entire book. But don't worry Peter Jackson comes to WotC's rescue because he added a romance subplot with a completely new character, and crammed in Galadriel for no reason
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>>96688307
>tq
Commander freecast spells
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>>96688475
>Gandalf again
>Bilbo
>Beorn
>Smaug
>Bard
>all of the dwarves get their own card (duh)
>Elfking/Thranduil
>Galion
>Gollum
>Elrond again
>Master of Laketown
>those three trolls have actual names so they get cards
>Roac
>Lord of the Eagles
>Bolg
>the Great Goblin
stop being a retard
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So since we are getting LOTR 2 now with the hobbit, would they be able to do the same with FF? I feel like all the big iconic cards already got put in.
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>>96688520
Hey, I know this person!
>maybe like 1 "original" brew (mostly EDHrec slop)
More like making a deck with thumb rule that deck must only contain cards from that specific UB set. You got no idea how much jank that deck had and lack of synergy with the commander.
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>play at LGS
>manage to cascade like a mother fucker with Zhulodok
>got Annihilator 11 on him
>pod collectively shits their pants and dumps EVERYTHING to remove me ASAP
>mfw getting blasted a gorillion targeted nukes
I didn't win, but I still had fun. I love being able to drop an "OH FUCK" monster. I just wish there was a way to make a colorless deck less janky. They get jack shit for tutors and card filters.
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>>96688475
TMNT better have that sexy fox bitch from the comics. I forget her name.
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>>96688535
>So since we are getting LOTR 2 now with the hobbit, would they be able to do the same with FF?
I hate you for even asking this question. Say the line:
>I am a pig and pigs eat slop
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>>96688540
Got Annihilator 11 on Ulamog, shit.
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>>96688307
The shitty thing about the way they release product now is that we dont get the reprints we need. The masters sets were actually good for the game in hindsight. The reprints we get in the special slots have to make sense with with whatever gimmick/theme that specific set has which limits what they can reprint.

Then there's secret lair reprints, which basically only ever gives us cringe reskins of mid level commander staples when theyre not busy making special sol rings, arcane signets and lightning greaves in everything. Also those are not readily available for anyone, super overpriced, and it never actually lowers the prices of the original cards theyre reprinting.
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>>96688514
IIRC the movie and book rights are separate, and warner basically never plays ball anymore. It's why every LOTR adjacent thing you've seen in the past decade is based on the books.
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>>96688532
Awesome great start. now we just need 200 more cards
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>>96688540
>be me
>playing Yenna Redtooth Regent
>deck slightly underperforming for most of the game
>I'm taking game actions, but it's nothing splashy
>have like 8 enchantments on the board
>play All That Glitters and Ancestral Mask
>copy both of them with Yenna
>she's now something like a 50/50 or whatever the fuck the numbers work out as
>whole table freaks out
Alas, she got exiled, but it's still fun to be the threat for a while
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>>96688570
I know this may be hard for a UBslopper like yourself to grasp, but not every card in a set has to be a legendary creature
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>>96688559
No I meant this one, alopex is her name. Yours is a given.
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>>96688570
We don't need 200 named character cards, although recent UB sets would have you believe differently
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>>96688553
don't forget deleting the Masters sets for Remastered sets which are even more restrictive, then (apparently) deleting them altogether.
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>>96688584
>sexy
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>>96688570
Make few more unique Bilbo and Gandalf cards, then call it day.
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>>96688475
>He has no idea how many TMNT characters existed to make toys
Can't wait for that bull cyborg thing and tattoo
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>>96688553
>>96688587
And remember that UB completely straight-jackets any creative freedom. If a card can't be reskinned to fit whatever shit setting WotC is importing this time, it doesn't get printed.
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>>96688523
>never, good slop piles and cedh needs to die

ban 3+ color decks
cEDH is now fixed.
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>>96688570
I imagine there will be a lot of reprints. The hobbit will probably make a lot of money, but it won't be LOTR tier.
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>>96688589
>can't run all six Gandalfs in the same deck with Gandalf as a commander
what retard designed this
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What's the redpill on nuDragon Shield?
I heard they're shit now.
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>>96688307
>What card do you wish they would reprint more
Every single card on the reserved list. Fuck the list, make prices crash
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>>96688598
oh please, like they give even half a shit about how well the reskins "fit"
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>>96688609
Sir that is a Secret Lair
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>>96688610
It's a bonus sheet reprint
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>>96688610
No it isn't, dumb fuck
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>>96688610
That's Through the Ages reprint, not Secret Lair. There's chance to pull these from boosters.
>https://scryfall.com/sets/fca
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>>96688481
It's not even the most badass dragon in the lore
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>>96688609
Another one
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>>96688621
>strixhaven set completely forgotten thanks to huge ub bloat
That is unfortunate.
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>>96688621
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>>96688621
I don't have an image of the exact opposite
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>>96688630
>I'm such a contrarian
Yawn
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>>96688626
no one
and I mean NO ONE
gives a shit about Return to Harry Potter
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>>96688626
>legally distinct Harry Potter
It's a boring setting. It is literally Aldi Brand Harry Potter.
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>>96688632
Aren't you the contrarian since your opinion is the overall minority opinion in magic and mine is the majority?
Or have you deluded yourself into believing you are the majority despite sales and all evidence that isn't "PROF AGREES!"?
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>>96688633
I do because it has gay dragons and storm support.
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>>96688640
do you have data to support your claims?

And raw sales (as relayed to us by Wizards who has a vested interest in us believing their products are successes) are not proof, by the way, since they can be massively skewed by comparatively small numbers of collectors and speculators.
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>>96688626
>>96688633
I like the learning aspect of Strixhaven.
I don't care for the houses, or the founders, or the teachers, or the sportsball, but I like the idea of young mages learning. Going to libraries, doing immature shit like getting into duels and pranking each other, making mistakes or developing new spells. That stuff was all neat
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I'm waiting for the big bad Hasbro mandated Harry Potter UB, Secret Lair or otherwise.
>but but but the trannies...
I know.
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Someone played a turn one WoC. Fat guy at the table who had taken two mulligans scooped and walked away. is this an appropriate reaction?
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>>96688570
Maybe a Sauron the Necromancer that actually reanimates creatures as opposed to exiling the fuel our graveyard decks need?
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So lessons are going to get a lot of support in the next year or whatever.
>major part in avatar
>originally a strixhaven thing, which we are returning to
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They should have gone for the Silmarillion instead of the Hobbit
at least then there would have been a mass of characters and locations to pick from, most of which wouldn't even feel out of place
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>>96688657
Maybe Strixhaven is building up for that, just like how Edge of Eternities was released to match with Star Trek's aesthetics and general theme.
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>Return to Lorwyn
This is it, the final chance for hybrid mana color identity rules to change.
It's now or never.
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>>96688669
yeah, the same amount of support as Spiders probably
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>>96688679
never ever
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>>96688672
the Silmarillion doesn't have nearly the same amount of broader cultural cachet, even among the nerd crowd.
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>>96688679
>>96688689
MaRo is itching to scrap the fucking legend rule, so I'd say nothing is off limits
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>>96688679
It will not
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>>96688690
UB: The Philmarillion when?
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>>96688695
>MaRo is itching to scrap the fucking legend rule
Based maro
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>>96688662
>lucario
The gay furries win again it seems
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>>96688672
They're saving the Silmarillion for the third, scrapping the bottom of the barrel set that no one gives a shit about.
Two more year, trust the plan.
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>>96688532
Also the 5 armies
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>>96688663
it happened to me the other day, I was given a completely unplayable hand, why bother
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>>96688620
Who killed Ancolucan the black? Glorfindel with his bare hands?
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I'm trying to build one deck of each major "play style" (e.g. token spam with Krenko, a deck that relies on one or two big creatures, an equipment deck, etc etc). Are there any recommendations that won't rape my wallet?
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>>96688716
Eรคrendil hit him in the head with a boat
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>>96688634
>>96688633
I like magecraft and want a powercrept 3 mana mono red Stone kiln artist variant
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>>96688718
step one, pick something other than Krenko for token shenanigans because it's an exceedingly boring deck
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>>96688722
A flying boat? Was the dragon in the water?
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>>96688731
a flying boat, yes
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>lord of the rings set
>hobbit set
>iron miaden secret lair
>but no blind guardian secret lair
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The worst thing about all UB slop going forward is that is has to be balanced around standard. Something like the 40k precons couldn't be done today because their power level would be way too high.
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>>96688690
on the other hand you could make a bunch of sickass cards out of it to the point that with a bunch of characters not really being that well known, half of them might be mistaken for UW
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>>96688726
Is he that bad? He seemed funny with the doubling, plus goblins sound fun as a sort of classic fantasy monster.
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>>96688754
Everything is powercrept to hell now so soon standard will out power legacy
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>>96688748
And how do you expect that to work?
A fucking Hansi mechanically unique card?
Eddie at least makes sense.
God, you're fucking stupid.
The worst type of metalhead.
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>>96688754
No actually, the worst thing about UB is how Wizards expects players to pay to be advertized to because it is both cheaper and more profitable for them so there will never be an incentive to be creative and original ever again until maybe 5 years down the line when this bubble bursts
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>>96688765
He's great but bog standard and boring
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>>96688765
Literally the fourth most popular commander of all time.
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>>96688765
it's not bad, it's really good, which is the problem. It's the same game every single time, and identical to every other Krenko deck. Muxus doesn't have the token bullshit but he's a more fun way to approach goblins.
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>>96688771
>there will never be an incentive to be creative and original ever again
If you leave them to their own devices and let them be creative and original, we will get endless niko aris and Kaya diversity troon slop. It's amazing they managed to not do this with EoE other than the nonbinary boros captain. Letting wotc be original and creative just means more forced faggotry. Atleast UB somewhat prevents that.
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>>96688781
Muxus is a CA engine and absolute unit if your deck is built right. My personal favorite goblin commander of choice is purphuros god of the forge
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>>96688620
so much potential
Fingolfin would absolutely go hard as an elf commander
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>>96688785
>Purphoros goblins
zzz

Zurgo Mobilize is peak token bullshit
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>>96688626
more like snoozehaven am i rite
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>>96688771
Considering how poorly Spiderman is doing, I can guarantee you this slop factory is not long for this world. Avatar is going to be an absolute bomb, The Office Secret Lair is going to be a disaster that's going to set precedents, and I can't even see the hobbit or star trek doing even vaguely decently.
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>>96688770
Maybe something like this but a card named the curse of fรซanor
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What would it take for Nintendo to actually lease the rights to Zelda UB?
How little lube would they use to fuck WotC?
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>>96688800
spiderman was such a weird marvel set to start with
half the cards pretty much look the same

if they'd gone with an avengers or x-men set at least there would have been some variety
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>>96688800
they'll just print an insanely pushed Arkenstone with a 001/001 printing to drive Hobbit sales
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>>96688816
Nintendo has a very long memory and doesn't forgive people
they have still blacklisted WotC for how they handled the pokemon TCG
so nothing on earth could get them to cooperate with WotC
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>>96688695
EXTREMELY rare Maro W
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>>96688771
Hasbro would literally be bankrupt without MTG right now. So they are digging the corporate heel deep into their backs to extract as much $$$ as possible.
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>>96688705
>>96688826
bring back the Kamigawa legend rule where they both died if you played a second one
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>>96688816
Literally never. It's like asking if Nintendo would do a zelda crossover with palworld.
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>>96688782
>If you leave them to their own devices and let them be creative and original, we will get endless niko aris and Kaya diversity troon slop.
I'm so fucking sick of this retard concern-troll argument
>>96688800
>Considering how poorly Spiderman is doing, I can guarantee you this slop factory is not long for this world
Oh man I wish I had your optimism. From the perspective of WotC execs, one billion dollar IP like Final Fantasy justifies gambling on at least another half a dozen IPs.
>what if one of them is another billion dollars bro??????
^ this is exactly how corporations think. You can see it with fucking movie franchises.
>Avatar is going to be an absolute bomb, The Office Secret Lair is going to be a disaster
You wildly understimate the retardation and spending power of 35 year old millennials
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>>96688718
Stop playing magic is the only answer if you dont want your wallet raped
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>>96688829
As someone who is totally clueless, how dod Hasbro get their dirty mitts on mtg anyway? Was it a case like George Lucas with Star Wars?
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>>96688816
They will literally never forgive WotC for what they did in Pokemon TCG
>Print a card with text that literally doesn't match what it does in JP
>TPC tells them to errata it so the card doesn't do radically different things in different regions
>WotC refuses repeatedly
>Led to Pokemon TCG permanently fracturing from WotC and Extended format being created to ban all cards printed while WotC had control of the game
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>>96688839
hasbro bought wotc before you were born
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>>96688836
>I'm so fucking sick of this retard concern-troll argument
It's true though. They are ideologues who think they are making the world better the more fags, troons and 40 year old black women they shove in to magic. You can't make this shit up.
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Going to the LGS for some pickup games tomorrow, I'll probably have time for 3 or so games.
Wanna bet how many/few spider man cards I'll see?
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>>96688829
it's frankly amazing how incompetent Hasbro is
I still have to double take whenever I see just how little money they made from the Brony craze

Also they have one other cash cow, the Monopoly mobile game
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>>96688839
Hasbro has owned WOTC for most of its life. The only difference is before their other IPs used to make money too. Monopoly go is the single exception, every other IP is deep in the red right now.
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>>96688848
I still want to know exactly how despite the countless successful movies and videogames as well as general popularity of the Transformers franchise, they still manage to not make a profit off of it
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Nigga Iโ€™m nuts!
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>>96688840
What a fuck up
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>>96688843
>It's true though.
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>>96688840
Holy fumble
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>>96688853
Most profits from shows/movies actually come from the merch, and kids no longer care to buy physical toys.
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>>96688836
>You wildly understimate the retardation and spending power of 35 year old millennials
I'm gonna be honest, nothing they have could even come close to the legacy of Cloud Strife. This is literally John JRPG Fantasy Man for hundreds of millions of people, and icons are all throughout it that resonate with people who barely know shit all about Final Fantasy. Avatar has almost nothing comparable, and The Office, unless this was a deal that was cheap as literal dirt, will not have anywhere near enough crossover with actual game-playing people that it can't recoup those losses. The only thing I can see even theoretically giving them a good chunk of change is what >>96688820 said with an Arkenstone, but it's still nothing even scratching "The One Ring".

If they want to really get a zillion trillion dollar IP and make retarded amounts of free money, Hoyoslop is the golden ticket.
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>>96688859
lmao that is really random
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>>96688840
>Extended format being created to ban all cards printed while WotC had control of the game
Holy fuck can we have this but it cuts out UB like a fucking tumor?
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>>96688872
kids no longer exist
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>>96688765
"Dies to one boardwipe tribal"
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>>96688877
Thank god
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>>96688879
if Krenko is allowed to pop off, he just wins then and there
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>>96688881
thank satan you mean
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>>96688872
I feel like they absolutely could have done something with Transformers to make it profitable or to keep kids buying it
like even if only they linked physical toys to a mobile game or so, they absolutely could have done that
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>>96688894
Common Satan W
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>>96688873
>Avatar has almost nothing comparable, and The Office, unless this was a deal that was cheap as literal dirt, will not have anywhere near enough crossover with actual game-playing people
Buddy all you are saying is "these IPs don't resonate with me personally"
As someone who couldn't give less of a fuck about some shitty JRPG that sucks so fucking bad that the only entry in the franchise to reach mainstream awareness was 20 fucking years ago, the fact theres a million retards for whom its apparently their literal favorite franchise is mind-blowing to me.
Last Airbender and Office have mainstream meme appeal even today, there are people who remember it and will spend money on it because they're desperately trying to fill a void in themselves and think nostalgia can cure them
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>>96688848
Can someone give me a QRD on how the monopoly game is so profitable/exploitative? I've heard people say it makes as much money as some of the most popular anime gachas.
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>>96688869
They were so fucking proud of themselves for doing this kek
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>>96688840
What was the difference between the cards? Ive somehow never heard this story
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>>96688899
I know you're desperately trying to make a painfully disingenuous equivalence here, but you can see the proof within the pudding. Final Fantasy outsold literally every other Magic set on pre-orders alone. It still sells out at every LGS you visit. Collector boosters are still outrageously overpriced. The same cannot be said for Lord of the fucking Rings. Spiderman, which just dropped, is filling store shelves everywhere and is on its way to filling landfills. There is a strict 0% chance that "some shitty JRPG that sucks so fucking bad" will be outpaced by a children's cartoon which lost all of its popularity more than a decade ago, or a sitcom that's watched primarily by people who do not play games of any sort.
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>>96688899
Avatar doesn't have much appeal in 2025. It was never a phenomenon. It was a decently popular show from several decades ago. Don't pretend it is some absolute monster IP. It is probably best known for being the IP tied to a horrid movie.
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>>96688904
extremely predatory monetization targeting kids
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>>96688873
>If they want to really get a zillion trillion dollar IP and make retarded amounts of free money, Hoyoslop is the golden ticket.
>Hololive
>Umamasume
>Genshin Impact
>Fate: Grand Order
>Pokemon
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>>96688917
FF is sitting on the shelves at my LGS. They have like 20 precons.
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>>96688899
Avatar isn't even close to the same level as Final Fantasy or Spider-Man, and The Office is by and large enjoyed by people who don't even know what Magic the Gathering is
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>>96688923
>UB: Pokemon
This would probably fix my attitude on life. It would be so funny that words literally could not describe it.
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>>96688874
Itโ€™s not random . Itโ€™s a perfect encapsulation of how much of a jobber Emr*kul is.
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>>96688899
You're thinking only of the US market. You fail to have the ability to think globally.
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A Disney set would be the ultimate seller. It'll never happen for obvious reasons, but it would sell insanely well. Disney adults are nuts with unlimited money.
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>>96688931
what about UB:Palworld?
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>>96688917
>Final Fantasy outsold literally every other Magic set on pre-orders alone
>There is a strict 0% chance that "some shitty JRPG that sucks so fucking bad" will be outpaced by a children's cartoon
I have never said Avatar or Office will outsell FF. You said they would be disastrous flops and you're going to be proven wrong.
>>96688919
>Avatar doesn't have much appeal in 2025.
20th anniversary. There's enough demand for there to be a world tour concert playing music from the show, I don't know what to tell you.
Literally all you're saying here is that you're not keyed into the IP. I wasn't for FF either. Couldn't tell you a fucking thing about it or why anyone would give a shit, apparently they do.
>Don't pretend it is some absolute monster IP.
See first reply
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>>96688942
There would be an actual shooting by Nintendo fanboys.
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>>96688916
Slowking (EN) lacked the restriction that it had to be your active Pokemon (which was present in the original JP version), so you could have them safe on the bench AND have multiple of them at the same time. It led to an extremely stagnant prison meta because it was so game-warping.

This is just speculation (literally no evidence, all schizo theory), but it's theorized this misprint was intentional because WotC was upset that TPC wouldn't let them print EN-exclusive promo cards since it already took them several months to localize the JP cards, and they wanted to throw in EN-exclusive cards like YGO does sometimes with TCG-exclusives. The idea was that they would intentionally misprint a card in a way that changes its functionality, and they would use it to open the gates to future deliberate alterations. Unfortunately, WotC being a perpetually-incompetent company, altered a card in a way that made it game-warping.
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>>96688941
Lorcana proves otherwise. UB Genshin Impact, UB Pokรฉmon and UB Harry Potter are the only IPs that have a chance to eclipse Final Fantasy.
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>>96688930
Holy fucking shit >>96688949
>I have never said Avatar or Office will outsell FF. You said they would be disastrous flops and you're going to be proven wrong.

Reading comprehension in this general is atrocious. How the fuck do you manage to play a card game with the mental capacity of a 2nd grader?
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I kinda hate Avatarfags desu, just in general, not even a UB thing.
Just something about them and that particular franchise.
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>>96688949
>You said they would be disastrous flops and you're going to be proven wrong.
I'm literally writing your post number down so when the inevitable "Why isn't MTG: Avatar selling?" articles appear, I can link them all to your post.
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>>96688961
I just hate how kiddie it is. It's a cartoon made for 8 year olds and yet all these adults go fucking crazy for it. Just so goddamned weird and cringey
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>>96688968
Based mature adult
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>>96688958
UB: Demon Slayer
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>>96688961
Last Airbender was the defining television show of that generation. Everyone watched it, it was well-written, creative etc etc. It's not really surprising it endured.
It's the Korrafags you need to worry about. Shit on everything that made the original good, wrote the single most unlikeable protagonist they could, and somehow made her always right about situations she ought to be proven wrong on AND have her be a punching bag who gets smacked the fuck around every fight she's in
>>96688962
Okie dokie. And when I'm right and Avatar is a fairly good success, not breaking any records but still being nowhere near a flop, will you write me a heartfelt apology?
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>>96688959
you are pointing towards "mainstream meme potential" as if that's ANY indication they won't flop. Spider-Man is one of most popular characters from one of the most popular IPs is the world, and that didn't save it.

Facebook Office memes certainly won't save the Dwight Secret Lair, and niche memes for a niche audience won't save Avatar.
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>>96688968
>It's a cartoon made for 8 year olds and yet all these adults go fucking crazy for it
Almost as if it wasn't aimed at a young demographic and was actually designed from day one for the 10-16 age bracket, meaning it had to appeal to a wide range of audience and was allowed to deal with more mature topics like the effect a prolonged war has on children and what it means to redeem yourself when you have committed literal war crimes
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>>96688977
>will you write me a heartfelt apology?
No, but I'll acknowledge you were correct.
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>>96688893
>if he is allowed
He isn't. It's so easily stopped then they have no card advantage to recover at all. As a control player Krenko is my wet dream. It gets outpaced so fast
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>>96688923
Genshin Impact being a strong mechanical fit for a full UB Magic set is an opinion I strongly believe in but I don't mention outside of anonymous circles.
It has
>large, diverse cast of named characters
>elemental Magic system
>general fantasy vibes
>established consumer base
The only other untapped IP that I think would be as good of a fit is Cosmere.
I also made some Genshin custom cards for shits and giggles.
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Just watch real anime faggots lmao
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>>96688986
My response to you is the same as here >>96688977
>Okie dokie. And when I'm right and Avatar is a fairly good success, not breaking any records but still being nowhere near a flop, will you write me a heartfelt apology?
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>>96688992
that's the problem with krenko, either you have the cards to stop him and he does nothing, or you don't have an answer for 1 turn and he just wins

it's boring, you're basically never having to make any meaningful decisions when you're up against a krenko deck for how to use your control cards, because nothing the other 2 players do will be as dangerous as letting krenko do his thing
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>>96688992
>As a control player Krenko is my wet dream
Does red even have a Savage Summoning equivalent? Because I'm withholding multiple counterspells exclusively for Krenko if I ever see him show up. The second he resolves it's pretty much game over
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>>96688518
No, they learned their lesson with 2c partners. They'll hopefully never print a 0 cmc equivalent ever either.
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>>96688993
There are incalculable amounts of IPs that would be excellent fits for UB, they just wouldn't be guaranteed lottery tickets for MTG.
>Warhammer Fantasy
>(loathe as I am to admit it) Age of Sigmar
>Endless Legend
>Project Moon
>Arknights
>Effectively any Fromsoft IP that isn't Deracine or The Adventures of Cookie and Cream (Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Elden Ring+Nightreign, Armored Core, King's Field, etc.)
The real problem is that none of these would make as much money for WOTC as something like Final Fantasy did, and it's honestly hard to think of anything that could make comparable monetary yield than literally Pokemon or Star Wars, but both of those would be held under IP barriers so uncrackable that it'd require an actual assassination for it to be a possibility.
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>>96688977
>defining television show of that generation
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>>96688975
Boomers and gen x boomers can't handle it, but you speak truth.
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>>96689006
What's wrong with pic related?
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Cute and funny UB when?
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>>96689011
>Star Wars
Disney killed this IP so hard it's literally more dead than MCU capeslop at this point.
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>>96689022
Can't tell if you're asking an honest question or acting stupid on purpose. Either way here's your (You)
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>>96689022
partner with and partner are entirely different mechanics
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>>96689023
https://secretlair.wizards.com/us/en/product/1107793/adventures-of-the-little-witch
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>>96689011
People often mention the Fromsoft games as a good fit for a full UB set, but I actually severely doubt that. WotC likes having highly marketable protagonists that can easily be translated into cards, and Chosen Undead, Good Hunter, etc etc are not that. A Secret Lair (or maybe even a couple of them) would be a much better fit for those.
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>>96689022
I don't get the flavor of this. Is it supposed to be she frees humans but only because she intends to feed them to her cat nightmare?
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>>96689035
Extremely cute, not nearly enough ToT for me though
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>>96689035
thanks anon gonna see where I can buy these
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>>96689012
I mean...yeah? Maybe you're not from an English speaking country, but it was huge in the US and UK. It was Nickelodeon's top show for a while, even beating Sponge Bob. It was probably the first "mature" media kids in the demographic ever saw. It dealt with complex themes like forgiveness and redemption and the horrors of war in a meaningful way. It wasn't some gag-a-minute comedy or some action-fest using war as a shallow backdrop to have lazer sword duels.

Again, 20 years on an there's a world tour concert just for the fucking music from the show.
You're confusing your own thoughts and experiences with those of the rest of the world.
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>>96688941
Lorcana is failing though. I dont think Disney is out of the cards forever. Mind you, Lorcana was fucked from the start because the cards are just objectively ugly. But the game itself also isn't very fun I hear. Disney is no stranger to cancelling toy lines if theyre not making them enough money. Also, they're not as focused on needing to be family friendly as they used to be, they have It's Always Sunny on Disney+. Magic is family friendly anyways though, especially now. the 13+ is not needed anymore.
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>>96689042
Truthfully, I don't get it either. Because if that was her intent surely she couldn't be purely white, she'd have to at least be orzhov. And what is she feeding people to the cat for? It's all so unclear
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>>96688633
Strixhaven was great. I liked that they tried to do something new with the guild colors.
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>>96689044
exactly, we need commanders for this feel
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>>96689053
Disney IP is pretty dead too. Many people aren't ready to accept this but their destruction of Marvel and Star Wars +forced gayness in kids movies is turning alot of normies away and has damaged the brand.
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>>96689036
I only disagree because Final Fantasy XIV got more love than literally the entire Final Fantasy franchise (other than debatably 7) in this set, and there's no "Warrior of Light" representation in any card. It would honestly be easier to make a literal "The Good Hunter" card that's just a generalized hunter who is still out killing people than "Player WoL" who can be any job in the game including level 100 Culinarian and level 100 Botanist. While I agree that it's hard to stick proper heroes into there, you can find some pretty good legendary dudes who aren't cartoonishly evil in each of their games. The only outright exception I'd say is probably Bloodborne because if you exclude the Plain Doll and some of the useless goobers in the church, the cast is 100% made up of murderous madmen and murderous beastmen who were at one point murderous madmen.
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>>96689042
>>96689054
>Unlike other bonders, Trynn remained in Drannith after her eludha, living apart from Silvar, who resides in the chasms of the surrounding Savai triome.[1] She keeps her identity as a bonder secret, working to make the city a safe place for other bonders and their companions.[2] As a former Coppercoat, she has firsthand knowledge of the corruption within the city's government. Now when she runs across corrupt officials, she lures them outside the city and feeds them to her partner, Silvar.[3]
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>>96689070
Is "bonder" code for WGFD?
>Now when she runs across corrupt officials, she lures them outside the city and feeds them to her partner, Silvar.
This doesn't match the implication of their names at all lmao
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>>96689070
>Hey, Devius Von Shekelberg, wanna see my pussy?
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>>96688594
I will be making a Bebop deck and you will be forced to play against it at your LGS
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>>96689003
Cavern of souls. It's red though so they have to get really lucky and draw into it. which is hard, because its red, so you're only ever drawing one card a turn
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>>96688633
I do but only if they do a second mystical archive sheet
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Cowboy Bebop will get a SL sooner or later.
>Censored Faye
Lmao
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>>96689055
Also the mystical archive had a ton of banger reprints with pretty arts like time warp
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>>96689097
they will but it'll be collector booster only
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>>96689022
I literally have this deck. The ONLY thing they partner with is each other. Completely different from the billion takes on Blue Farm 4c partner shit.
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>>96689098
>Censored Faye
Gonna be another pose like this that conveniently doesn't show anything, so they won't need to censor anything
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>>96689112
Yeah I loved the STA prints. Even if Faithless Looting is the only one that people remember lmao.
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>>96689063
Also every kids movie they make flops these days. I can't think of a movie off the top of my head that has had insane relevance in pop culture since Frozen. They had one about an Asian girl getting her period.
I never thought they would be losing to dreamworks, but that puss in boots move and the wild robot are pretty rad
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>>96689113
That's all I buy, anon
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>>96689022
Enemy colors shouldnt be partners
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>>96689130
pay pig
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>>96689120
The Japanese demonic tutor is pretty popular too. That is THE definitive timmy demonic tutor to own now, it's like 400 dollars. But god damn this art is sick
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>>96689145
poor fag
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>>96689147
It's genuinely hard to find a jap strixhaven archive card that doesn't look great desu
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>>96688977
>Korrafags
Didnt korra fuck up and kill the avatar cycle
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>>96689156
Well they announced a sequel with a new avatar so nope
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>>96689156
No, she just lost all the accumulated wisdom of the past avatars - so the new one will just have her to call on when they enter the avatar state.
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>>96689130
you sicken me
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>>96689156
>>96689170
It was the writers way of making her forever correct by removing all past avatars.
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>>96688770
>And how do you expect that to work?
Did you forget that Blind Guardian has an entire album based off of the Silmarillion
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>>96689156
She killed all the past incarnations in the most literal metaphorical โ€œfuck youโ€ to fans.
I donโ€™t know why but the writers for Korra felt like they had to make the show their own, and they did so by retconning the entire premise of the avatar, retconning what spirits even are, retconning what it meant to learn the 4 elements, and creating a shitty steampunk roaring 20s setting for no other reason than a personal fascination with the prohibition era and taking a steaming hot shit on the previous series
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>>96689145
No one buys play boosters. Even FF ones rot on shelves where I am.
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>>96689154
Some people don't like this one but I think it's fucking cool too
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>>96689156
The avatar cycle basically "reset" at 10,000 years. She lost all cumulative knowledge, but she had to in order to defeat (well, stave off) pure evil.
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>>96689012
>Avatar: The Last Airbender was the highest-rated animated television series in its demographic at its premiere; an average of 1.1 million viewers watched each new episode.[44] It had 5.6 million viewers for its highest-rated episode[45] and was a highly rated part of the Nicktoons lineup beyond its 6-to-11-year-old target demographic.[46] A one-hour special, The Secret of the Fire Nation, consisting of the episodes "The Serpent's Pass" and "The Drill", aired on September 15, 2006, and attracted 4.1 million viewers. According to the Nielsen ratings, the special was the fifth highest-rated cable television program that week.[47] In 2007, Avatar: The Last Airbender was syndicated to more than 105 countries and was one of Nickelodeon's top-rated programs. The series ranked first on Nickelodeon in Germany, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Belgium, and Colombia.[48]
>The four-part series finale, "Sozin's Comet", had the highest ratings of the series. Its first airing averaged 5.6 million viewers, 95 percent more than Nickelodeon had in mid-July 2007.[citation needed] During the week of July 14, it was the most-viewed program by the under-14 demographic.[49][50] The finale's popularity was reflected in online media; Rise of the Phoenix King, a Nick.com online game based on "Sozin's Comet", had almost 815,000 game plays in three days.
>Multiple media publications have hailed Avatar as one of the greatest animated television series of all time.[73][5][74][75][76][77][78] In 2013, TV Guide included Avatar among the 60 greatest cartoon of all-time list.[79] In 2018, Vanity Fair ranked the series as the 11th-best animated TV show.[80] IndieWire ranked Avatar at number 36 on its 2018 list of the "50 Best Animated Series Of All Time".[81]
Yes actually
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>>96689209
Uhโ€ฆ I think you have misremembered a version of events that is less disrespectful than reality
It wasnโ€™t just an inevitable reset, the โ€œdark avatarโ€ literally whipped Korra and every strike deleted a previous avatar
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>>96689213
None of this shit means it was actually that good or that most people care about it 20 years later. I see people in my circle rewatching it and say it's not for them, because even with the interesting themes, at the end of the day its a childrens show. The show's following is a cult following and that doesn't help sell product to the masses. Avatar WILL flop. I'm sorry piggy, I know you're pumped about it, and you can still eat the slop. But most of us are happy to skip out on this meal.
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>>96689217
Probably. I was baked when I watched the finale. She did win though.
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>>96689213
>>Multiple media publications have hailed Avatar as one of the greatest animated television series of all time.[73][5][74][75][76][77][78] In 2013, TV Guide included Avatar among the 60 greatest cartoon of all-time list.[79] In 2018, Vanity Fair ranked the series as the 11th-best animated TV show.[80] IndieWire ranked Avatar at number 36 on its 2018 list of the "50 Best Animated Series Of All Time".[81]
It had zero impact in Asia and South America, only a few European countries liked it.
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>>96689232
>denying reality this hard
Gotta be a troon
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>>96689232
>None of this shit means it was actually that good or that most people care about it 20 years later
>none of the chart-topping statistics or media lists from 15 years after the show first aired mean that people liked it
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>>96689213
now do Korra, a show so bad and unpopular it didn't even get to air its final season on TV
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>>96689232
It had a huge resurgence during covid due to being streamed on netflix, to the point nickelodeon opened an entire animation studio dedicated only to avatar- that said I don't think the set will be a massive hit.
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>>96689244
Nobody gives a fuck about Korra, it's not even in the set
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People with party decks, how many of each creature type do you include? I'm building the Black Mage and I've cut the deck down to 7 of each cleric/rogue/warrior and 7 changelings and still need to cut 8 cards from the deck. I really don't wanna get rid of the artifacts/spells and don't wanna drop lower than this count so I'm not desperately drawing for a full party
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>>96689244
Stop it E;R, hasnโ€™t Korra suffered enough?
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>>96689244
Korra porn however is still extremely popular, she's the literal face of /aco
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>>96689252
The Korra stans are crazy. I hate to deprive you of your innocence, but there are people who genuinely claim that Korra was better than Airbender
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>>96689252
Yes, exactly. It's proof positive the Avatar brand alone does not mean automatic success not even 10 years down the line, much less 20.
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>>96689258
That pic of her pooping a diaper is cute!
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>>96689261
But Korra's first season was huge. Even though it was total ass from minute one, the brand alone carried it.
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>me and my friend both playing artifact decks, Brudiclad and Esper Urza
>LGS random drops an Aura Shards turn 3
>me and my friend obviously team up and hard target the Aura Shards player the entire game until he dies cus it rapes both our decks
>he cries about getting targeted and rage scoops
>me and my friend both obviously lose to the 4th guy cus we got all our shit removed by the aura shards
still worth it

>another game later im still playing Urza, Chief Artificer
>turn 9-10 in the game and i finally assemble my 3 piece Time Sieve combo
>guy unironically does the thing that people in the thread shitpost about
>"ACTUALLY YOU CAN'T PLAY TIME SIEVE IN BRACKET 3 CUS ITS LOOPING EXTRA TURNS AND THATS NOT ALLOWED"
>i tell him its a deterministic combo, the extra turns are infinite
>"ACTUALLY IT DOESNT MATTER, CHAINING ANY EXTRA TURNS IS BANNED"
do i have to overhaul my entire fucking deck now??
nevermind i could just as easily win with any number of other combos with mystic forge or krark-clan ironworks if i wanted to run that, their fucking bracket rules make no sense, its so retarded
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>>96689261
Avatar fans feel about Korra the same way A Song of Ice and Fire book fans feel about the Game of Thrones tv series
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>>96688941
Disney joins with Square Enix and unveil Kingdom Hearts UB.
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>>96689273
you posted this last thread
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>>96689272
Ratings dropped off extremely quickly
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>>96689285
yeah and it was after bump limit, so what
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>>96689195
>No one buys play boosters. Even FF ones rot on shelves where I am.
$0.02 has been deposited in your account
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>>96689290
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>>96689236
True, ethiopia is known to be mtg's primary source of income
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>>96689273
HOW DARE YOU VIOLATE THE HECKIN SACRED BRACKETS
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>>96689253
>People with party decks, how many of each creature type do you include? I'm building the Black Mage and I've cut the deck down to 7 of each cleric/rogue/warrior and 7 changelings and still need to cut 8 cards from the deck. I really don't wanna get rid of the artifacts/spells and don't wanna drop lower than this count so I'm not desperately drawing for a full party

> Burakos ETB Matters
https://moxfield.com/decks/cZrZk-7RFE-oR-bDTKrl9w

> Burakos Delney List
https://moxfield.com/decks/_OMpHSQPZk-g1CvyVovv0w

I think you want between 7-10 of each but it depends. Changelings obviously count for all. Burakos is effectively a changeling.
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>party
isn't this just Reddit Tribal
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>>96689232
>I see people in my circle rewatching it and say it's not for them, because even with the interesting themes, at the end of the day its a childrens show
You overplayed your hand, this is a massive red flag that youโ€™re making shit up based on what you THINK the show is like
I rewatched it earlier this year start to finish and only about 5 episodes out of 60 were difficult to watch.
Itโ€™s the least kiddy โ€œโ€โ€childrenโ€™s showโ€โ€โ€ imaginable. You donโ€™t know anything about it, you just know itโ€™s a cartoon and do this over the top 80s bully routine of โ€œthat means itโ€™s for babies!!!!!โ€ without ever having watched it or knowing anyone who has
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>>96689258
This is the face of your fanbase
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>>96689310
all tribal decks are reddit tribal
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>>96689318
Thatโ€™s not even the cute Korra diaper pic. Post the one where shes squatting
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>/edhg/ has actual diaperfags
unsurprising, really
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>>96689312
>only about 5 episodes out of 60 were difficult to watch.
Out of curiosity, which ones? The only one I know that people tend to shit on is The Great Divide, but I also haven't watched it in years and years.
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>>96689318
giwtwm
selesnya CHAD btw
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>>96689322
Nigga I am not wading through that shit filled pit of degeneracy again and I dont know what picture youre talking about, you find it. I am intrigued lol
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>>96689329
based
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>>96689327
Great divide was one. The one with Jet was actually very bad, for one of the most serious plot lines of the show itโ€™s actually mishandled quite badly and the gaang act exceptionally out of character so the plot can happen. That episode in season 3 where Aang is having stress dreams about fighting Ozai is fucking abominable, literally one of the worst fucking episodes of the entire show and at a time where it is most inappropriate to have a fucking gag episode that doesnt progress the story whatsoever.
Thereโ€™s a couple more but Iโ€™d have to look it up.

Over all though, I was pleasantly surprised how well it held up. Me and a friend rated every episode and each seasons average was higher than the previous
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>>96689325
Piggies here started shilling a baby show for babies so it was only natural.
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>>96689332
Iโ€™ve asked in the /aco/ diaper thread for you, but even if anyone posts it any time soon i canโ€™t link to it from a blue board without copping a ban, so youโ€™ll just have to go lurk there
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>>96689338
EDH is baby Magic for babies so it was only natural
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>>96689325
It is a patrician fetish
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>>96689367
that's hucows, actually
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>>96689371
Tell me youโ€™re fucking addicted to anime without telling me
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>>96689376
Nigga you like diapers
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>>96689381
Because I am based
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has anyone here played archenemy? what schemes did you use?
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geez everyone over here doing all this wild stuff and here i am just a humble Liesa player
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>>96689403
shes a good girl ya know
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>>96689204
heres a better quality scan:
https://scryfall.com/card/sta/109/ja/%E8%83%B8%E8%BA%8D%E3%82%8B%E5%8F%AF%E8%83%BD%E6%80%A7-(thrill-of-possibility)
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>>96689407
wrong thats sinth or synth (forgot spelling), someone's porn OC.
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>>96689204
I haven't found a slot for it yet but I have a signed copy of this. Looks great desu, same with the Brainstorm by the same artist.
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>>96689427
hell yeah.
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>>96689403
If it makes you feel any better I'm basically unable to build bracket 3 decks
Either it's a bracket 2 memepile that gets raped, or a "bracket 4" nest of infinites (without the cohesion that would let it be playable at bracket 4)
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>>96689422
yes, i am aware, i put her on the card and use that. lol.
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Worldly Tutor isn't deserving of being a game changer
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>>96689437
dont get me wrong I got a spread of retarded optimized competitive decks of each bracket to be a douchebag.

it is just my liesa is sort of my favorite deck, full of tax, stax, and just overall hurting people for playing but a lot of times people always pull out uber decks, which makes me pull out uber decks and the arms race continues.

its like, nobody can just see liesa hit and a few tax pieces and just slow thier game a bit to compensate the minute they gotta pay 2 they lose their fucking minds, and i run her specifically cause she has no blue to stop people from freaking out over counterspells

average commander player is retarded and unfun to play with lol
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>>96689485
No tutor deserves to be a GC
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>>96689494
>nobody can see me put down a thing that puts a clock on the game and just chill
>they lose their fucking minds
only thing you said that was right is that the average commander player is retarded and unfun to play with. you are the average commander player
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Book of Enoch ub set when?
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>>96689525
everything dropped on the table is a clock even lands
what a retarded point to address, 2 life for casting a spell is one of the slowest clocks out there next to dropping basic lands, even a couple creatures on the table are almost in all cases far more faster clocks in commander than paying 2 life.

the fact people get more angry with liesa hitting the table than quark and sakashima is telling.
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>unironically complaining that people aren't happy to see you roll up with a stax deck
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https://moxfield.com/decks/z2bYe0YLP0KHurYPyIkx0w
Are the talismans "too cute" here? I feel like I have a lot of other ways to lower my life and perhaps I'd be better off with more traditional ramp in their place. Any other feedback welcome, I have never seen anyone play Betor despite his relatively high 8k edhrec decks.
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>>96689561
Everything about you is "too cute", bro. :3
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>>96689563
big kisses
<3 anon
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>>96689561
>>96689563
>>96689584
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Can he be made in a fun way? I don't wanna load up on stax or too many counterspells. Something I can roll up to casual nights with and have fun. I wanna basically make Urza Tribal where most cards are or reference Urza.
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>>96689605
Yeah, he's nowhere near as busted as MonoU Urza and probably worse than Esper Urza. It's probably fine to build him casually and if you manage to flip him, good job.
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>>96689561
> lands 33 (40 including MDFC)
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>>96689605
He literally has the most generic, universal artifact synergy ability possible, in the two best colors for artifacts, and as a bonus comes with a fair and splashy lategame ability that synergizes with artifacts too. All of this when artifacts are the most varied and powerful card type in the entire game.
Do you have him confused with Lord High Artificer the one stop combo shop
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>>96689548
>well I don't see why players are taking such umbrage against me
of course you don't, sport
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>>96689622
WHy are his hands so small?
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>>96689619
40 lands including MDFCs is actually pretty fantastic tho
Also good considering sometimes it seems like the commander would be totally okay with paying 3 life for the mono colored MH3 MDFCs
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>>96689634
watchmaker phenotype
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>>96689548
You didn't have just liesa out tho, by your own reckoning of things. So its not just "pay 2 life" to cast a spell
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>>96689605
I'll do it myself right now and get back to you on that.
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HERE PIGGIE PIGGIE PIGGIE, COME GET YOUR SLOP, SUIEEEEEEEEEE, GET THAT SLOPA PIGGY!
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>>96689669
>>96689669
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>>96689665
If you do let me know, thanks.
>>96689622
I dont have him confused with Good Urza, no. I'd probably put him in there but not to be like a dick about it with the orbs.
>>96689618
I'd mostly want him over esper because of the much higher possibility of creating Urza, Planeswalker.
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>>96688518
As long as they background commanders are always mono, yeah this needs to happen asap
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>>96689306
>Burakos is effectively a changeling
Yeah he and Stonework Packbeast are in the changeling section of my list.
>I think you want between 7-10 of each but it depends
Damn, I effectively (with changelings) have 14 each and the deck has tons of card draw so I feel safer cutting 1-2 more from each type.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/05-10-25-gzM-deck-paste/
It's a very budget/meme build, the idea is to get a full party and cantrip my way into having a bunch of 0 cost artifacts in hand, then playing them all and blasting everyone with the Black Mage and maybe 1-2 of the 0/1 wizard tokens the deck makes. Also Black Mage isn't in the list cuz it's not on tappedout's database yet
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>>96689656
even if it is a few things like losing a life on playing a land or taking 1 dmg when you play a creature, the point is still the same and completely arbitrary.

someone pulling out a fetch and 2 lands on a turn, and a cost reduction amulet, is even more of a clock. that is *the entire point* if the situation. That there are far more dangerous and frustrating clocks, yet just paying 2 or 3 life *is the cut off for losing your mind*. This is the same as how people lose their fucking minds over a creature being counterspelled but dont bat an eye if it is exiled for cheaper.

but this might be a bit too advanced for you, you smell like a 1 drop per turn boardwipe meta casual.
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>>96689628
oof, putting casual timmy in your flaregun to show the class L O L
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He kinda seems like a fun voltron commander
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>>96689273
if you do play with brackets then yes, time sieve is a bracket 4 combo
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As someone who plays:
Balan Wandering Knight (W Voltron)
Neerdiv, Devious Diver (U Deck-out Mill)
Go Shintai of Life's Origin (WUBRG Enchantress Snowball)
Y'shtola, Night's Blessed (Esper Self Discard/Mana Rock Tribal Drain)

And is working on:
Xavier Sal, Infested Captain (Sultai Proliferate, Mutate, Populate)
Vihaan, Goldwaker (Mardu Treasures and Outlaw Tribal)
Jetmir, Nexus of Revels (Naya Cat Tribal)

I realize I don't have a real spellslinger deck (Y'shtola only kinda counts). Any recommendations for a real gonzo and fun commander for that?

Yes Vivi probably fits the category, but anything less obvious?
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>>96689561
The talisman cards are already good enough on their own. The fact they have upside with your commander makes them worth running over 2mv green ramp. The only thing that could really contest them is an extremely aggressive 1mv ramp set, but at that point you're just making generic slop.
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https://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collection
Still lookin' for potential cuts for this. Aiming for high power, around a 4.
As it is, Golbez is a lot of fun, but I'm revamping to make it more consistent hopefully.
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>>96688307
why isn't there a 15 CMC spell that is literally just "you win the game"?
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>>96690263
boring
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>>96690263
It was named Emrakul and it turns out that's extremely boring as a deck concept.
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>>96690263
>why isn't there [[completely retarded stupid idea only a child could have]]
You have to be 18 to post here
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>>96690263
closest we have:
https://scryfall.com/card/m13/203/door-to-nothingness
https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/91/coalition-victory
https://scryfall.com/card/akh/4/approach-of-the-second-sun
and kinda: https://scryfall.com/card/sok/102/hidetsugus-second-rite


The issue is that there are too many way ways to cast spells for free. CMC 15 doesn't matter when everyone would just cheat it out for cheaper. And it's even less interaction than the current degenerate combos.
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>>96690172
Never heard of Breathstealer's Crypt before, but why is it in this deck?
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>>96690376
My idea for that, and Chains of Mephistopheles by extension, is that it punishes any kind of large amount of draw or at least keeps me informed on what other people are drawing. I can also use it as a pseudo discard outlet for when I draw a creature I'd much prefer in my graveyard like Master of Etherium or Broodstar. I wish it was an artifact, admittedly, do you think it's a little too costly or slow here?
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>>96688451
>since they can't be played elsewhere.
Elsewhere...how?
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>>96690384
>Punishes card draw
That's good in high power
>Discard outlet
Not bad as a side benefit
>4cmc
That's the real sticking point, anon. 4cmc for a card that does nothing until someone draws a card and doesn't synergize with your deck mechanically.
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>>96690483
you know, you've got a point. I like it as a meme card that bullies, but most people probably won't care about it enough for it to matter. I'll cut it and maybe save it for when I inevitably rebuild Nekusar.
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Just so people ITT are aware: using a tripcode when there is no need for it is considered poor form! Unless you need to be identified in your post, you can actually post totally anonymously :)
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>>96690909
first day in edhg?
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>>96690909
Swordfag is a particular obnoxious poster, it's not worth engaging with him even passive aggressively.
>Likes FFslop
>Tries to flex with expensive cards
>actually sucks corpo dick and says proxies are cringe
>fat neckbeard
>futafag
I could go on.
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>>96690934
His presence is not welcome here.
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>>96690909
just stop replying to yourself this is pathetic
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>>96690909
>poor form
Says who?
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>>96688695
All you faggots only play EDH this is meaningless
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>>96688875
You'll find if you have friends and arent annoying to be around you can play however you want anon ^.^
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>>96689115
>its okay when I do it
Typical /edhg/ never change.
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>>96688875
>this
>when FF was worlds better than Aethershit, Neon Dynasty, New Capenna, and is probably going to btfo new Lorwyn too
lmao cope
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Are we still using this thread?

>>96689332
>>96689365
Itโ€™s up by the way. @9007361
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>>96689332
>shit filled pit of degeneracy again
>filename clearly implies you saved it from a hosting site and not from 4chan
mhm.... diaperfag.
>>96689322
I want you both to know that I'm not angry with you, or even disappointed. I'm sorry that your parents failed you.
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>>96691355
By what metric? Sales maybe. Definitely not card quality.
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>>96691505
Both for sure
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New Capenna as a set was actually pretty terrible outside of the precons. Let's not put the rose colored art deco glasses on.
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>>96688875
>wants to cut out UB but doesn't want to cut out the insane powercreep that's present in almost all of modern UW
grim
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>>96691531
new capenna also sucks lorewise
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>>96691531
Based on? Had good cards good art, gilded was a cool treatment. Lots of fun legendaries to build around. Two sets of fantastic lands, fun draft.
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>>96690172
I was going to give you advice but saw you included Dr. Who cards, so get fucked faggot. Do it yourself.
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>>96690028
Tellah is hilarious and I was thinking of building him as a voltron commander, since you can just stuff your deck with 4 cmc+ cards to constantly draw off of him with.
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>>96691681
dr WHO?
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>>96690263
>>96690266
>>96690269
>>96690271
will be a game changer soon btw
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>>96691687
I'd play all fast mana, extra turns and fireball like cards in this deck.
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>>96691710
I was thinking of playing big X spells, yeah. Crackle with Power is basically an instant kill in the deck if you can cast it for X=3.

I was also thinking of playing City on Fire, but I am not sure if that would work with Tellah, since wouldn't he die before the enchantment is in effect?
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>>96691720
nice
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>>96691599
>fun draft
Unironically one of the worst limited formats in FIRE magic. Not as bad as ONE of SPM, but close.
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>>96691720
>wouldn't he die before
Yes
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>>96691681
>check deck
>can't find a WHO card
What card???
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>>96691811
the cyber-controller retard
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>>96691845
Holy shit I didn't even notice
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>>96691681
>the UB sloppa deck has a UB sloppa card in it
What's the outrage?
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Genuine question: how long are you pissbabies going to impotently cry about UB?
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>>96691920
>>96691949
Here's your (you)
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>>96691949
Until the day it is excised from Magic like the cancer it is
I would even settle for there just being a 2nd version of every format where UB is legal. As long as I can choose not to interact with it, I'll take it.
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>>96692222
Anon, no one is making you play the cards.
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>>96692250
1. Not true. The more UB sets with mechanically unique cards, the less viable it is to only play pre-UB sets because of powercreep and the fact that if a commander with a mechanic you've always wanted to play gets skinned as UB you have literally no alternative
2. This is a multi player game and "YOU don't have to play it" means fucking nothing when it can and will be used against you

>man I fucking hate how they invented new chess pieces like The Jester, and The Vagrant, and The Princess. I liked chess the way it was and this totally undermines the game
>well YOU don't have to play the pieces :)
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>>96692384
Sounds like something a nazi would say.
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>>96692452
>how dare you dehumanize people! Youre just like the people who have been depicted as cartoonishly evil in all media for the last 80 years!
I canโ€™t even say Iโ€™m surprised by the lack of self awareness anymore
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>>96692515
Ironic post
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>We're doing something players have requested for a long time
Planeswalkers as commanders!
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>catering and pandering at the cost of quality is bad
>what are you, a nazi?
A bit drastic, alright
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>>96692638
Everything WotC has always said they would do with the format. I don't understand why anyone thinks they wouldn't.
>planeswalker commanders
>wishes
>hybrid mana
Will all come to pass.
They're about to make legendary artifacts legal too, the question is only to what degree. There's a Heroes of the Realm card with the Precious keyword that lets a legendary artifact be a 2nd commander. I don't see why they wouldn't print that in Hobbit.
The only question is whether they leave it at that for a few years or immediately move to make LAs legal as your only commander
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>>96692919
It's all the left has. Their politics defy common sense so they depend on high-minded reasons that people should agree with them.
Every race on Earth has a strong in-group preference for their own people, except whites. Every race can have "pride" days or months, and march in the streets waving their flags, even if they're not in their own countries when they do so. But white people can't be allowed to do this, so there is a convoluted explanation that racism does not in fact apply equally to all peoples, and actually due to historic oppression and the fact white people are a majority in their own countries and therefore hold most of the power, it is in fact ONLY racist when white people prefer their own in-group, because racism is prejudice + power
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>>96692638
Id love this
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>>96691531
nope it was cool then and cool now
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Daily reminder that we need to bring back the tuck commander rule. Noobs need to learn they need to design decks that don't rely solely on their commander.
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>>96693459
maybe you're the noob who needs to learn to design their deck so it doesn't rely solely on your opponent's commanders not being on their board
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>>96693459
>decks that solely rely on the commander are budget decks
>wotc please help me against budget decks
LMAO
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>>96693671
I just miss casting spells like Hinder and Hallowed Burial and see my opponents faces when they realize WU can have cards just as brutal as black in this format. Counters, tutors and protection are important to run, and I made sure they learned those lessons.

My favorite thing to do was bounce their commander back to their hand end of their turn, then flash in Vendilion Clique, put their commander on the bottom of their library, and then cast Tunnel Vision.
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>>96691701
dies to:
https://scryfall.com/card/xln/34/settle-the-wreckage
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>>96693771
why is emrakul banned again? it dies to shit removal!
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>>96693811
I don't know if emrakul really needed to be banned.
Most things die to removal, but the thing is that It's incredibly powerful card.
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>>96693811
Because they removed "banned as a commander"
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Emrakul definitely needs to stay banned. It's too easy to cheat out and completely wipe everyone out if they don't have the very specific removal right then.
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>>96693835
>>96693840
that's what being a game changer is for and gavin is just dragging his heels at this point
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>>96693863
>15 mana shouldn't win you the game because i said so
>spending multiple cards to win the game ala combo also shouldn't make me win the game
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>>96688718
Disgusting, can't you commit to just one or two styles of play? How do you want to learn your deck perfectly, if you will have many of them? Do you at least plan to stay loyal to certain mana identity?
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>>96693911
>spending 15 mana on emmy

New or stupid. Call it.
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>>96695068
back in my day we would slap down a Prime Time and ramp up to an Emmy hardcast and we LIKED IT
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>>96695076
I have to admit that while prime time also belongs in the bin, that is at least as based as it is stupid. I cannot allow it, but I have to respect it.
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>>96695068
>using combos to cheat in emmy (w/o haste lol)
>bonus points if you get it to stick for more than 1 turn
>somehow this is more broken than torment for 15

retarded or super retarded? call it.
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>>96695173
i like how you retards just out yourselves as thinking that bracket 3 is just bracket 2 with 3 game changers, and not its own identity with more broken shit
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>>96695361
torment isn't in your command zone
Torment on a stick absolutely would be a banned commander
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>>96695361
Nigga if you get X=13 Torment of Hailfire down and nobody counters your ass you can have the match.

Reading comprehension is for bitches apparently.

>>96695372
I mostly play 4s; but you can fight all you like over what's allowed to happen in super weenie hut juniors. I don't want Emmy or Prime Time up here neither.
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>>96695398
>emrakul in your command zone is totally going to be more broken than zhuludok guys i swear the pod will not kill you first the moment you show emrakul as your commander
kek
>Nigga if you get X=13 Torment of Hailfire down and nobody counters your ass you can have the match.
>but nobody is going to counter the thing that lets you cheat in emmy, no siree!
kekaroo
a lot of clowns running around right now i see
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>>96695399
>i mostly play 4s and i'm proud
nigga you're playing in the same weenie hut jrs you're just too pussy to double down and just go cedh
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>>96695423
cedh is both lame and gay



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