The /btg/ is dead! Long live the /btg/!STOOPING HAWK EditionLast Thread: >>96672485================================>BattleTech Introductory Guide & PDFshttps://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400>Overview of the Major Factionshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houseshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clanshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers>Rookie Guideshttps://tinyurl com/ydtr589ehttps://pastebin.com/HZvGKuGxhttps://files.catbox.moe/l1gjfi.jpg>Sarna.net – BattleTech Wikihttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page>Force Building & Unit Faction GuidesMULhttp://masterunitlist.infoXotl's Random Assignment Tableshttps://tinyurl com/fejwk5f2>Unit Design SoftwareSolaris Skunkwerkshttps://www.solarisskunkwerks.comMegaMek Labhttps://megamek.org>MegaMek – PC version of BT with bots & multiplayer!https://megamek.org>How to Play Against the Bot?https://www.mediafire.com/file/l5mqjydrgndnndu/Against_the_Bot_v4.pdf(Included in latest MekHQ docs)https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=56065.0https://pastebin.com/pE2f7TR5https://www.mediafire.com/folder/rkg2sl5ybr24k/Battletech_Portrait_Packhttps://www.mediafire.com/file/a3x576yflof0ca1/MekHQ_Fluff_art.rar>Flechs Software – Digital record sheets & more!https://flechs.net>Instant Action – Play custom scenarios for tabletop!https://victorypointproductions.neocities.org/instantaction>PDF Troverebrand ly/CranstonSnordrebrand ly/SnordsStoryTimerebrand ly/CranstonLogFilesrebrand ly/CranstonSnordDropBox>Older Troves (2013-2020)https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cj0tjpn9b3n1i/Battletechhttps://tinyurl com/2p8p7cewrebrand ly/BTmags>/btg/’s own image board!https://bgb.booru.org/index.php>More /btg/ tidbits! (2020-05-17)https://pastebin.com/uFwvhVhE----------------------
Can someone with a model of the Blood Asp (Star Adder) post direct-facing pictures of the front, left or right, and back sides of the model? If so, do the same for the legs if you can-- but keep the whole model in the picture, not just the legs. I need to use them for reference. Post the height of the model in mm as well. Thanks in advance!
Just bought the 40th anniversary Beginner Box. I'm excited. Gonna take it to a gameshop on Friday and offer people some games
Does the new official art for the Grand Titan at all mean a new mini is on the way? What about the Tempest, Hercules, Anvil, Hammer, Albatross, Apollo... we can skip the Perseus, that one is too hard to make look good and not a great mech, juice is not worth the squeeze. Basically, FWL box when?
>>96689278Would be cool if it was the headliner for an Aces box.
Is this where I can find the Battletech Generals?
>>96689278I will not tolerate this Perseus slander. Especially when it's ultimately just an Orion with a slightly different cockpit and its launcher moved up above the shoulder instead of integrated into it. Also you forgot the Anzu.
>>96689335No
Tomorrow's game is a playtest of the new mobility rules, using a water heavy map. 3000 BV per player, one mech each, up to Civil War. I'm packing a Hauptmann B with a 3/4 pilot. Should be fun.
I am really looking forward to reading some Gothic BT fiction, I wish it was coming out a bit earlier I would like to run some Gothic-themed MechWarrior for Halloween
forgot picrel
I think bottom anon is really cool and nice and cute
>>96689616she’s alright at first but eventually will turn on you
>>96689557So this is why they haven't done anything with my submission
>>96689655keep telling yourself that
>>96689655What did you submit?
>>96689557Urbanmech's cockpit is that spacious?
>>96689631what
>>96689434Well that just seems like false advertising
>>96689557we have a scan of the gothic book? want to know what makes it special enough to warrant publishing instead of being some guy's head canon.
>>96689739The disappointment of Gothic is that they didn't even bother with Game Rules for the interest point; the Genetic Monsters.I love the concept of Continuum, but as usual Catalyst fucked it up.
>>96689335sorry, best we can do is a captain
In standard rules, are all mechs considered the same height of 2 levels? Or does a tiny mech have an advantage in being obscured where a big mech wouldn't be?
>>96689848All 'Mechs are 2 levels. Consider square-cube law. MWO/5 has massive issues with 'Mech scale.
>>96689865So the art is just fluff?
Medium or heavier mechs with less than 5 rear armor are trash. change my mind
>>96689898abstraction
>>96689906How dare you disparage the hunchback
>>96689898no. the art is sometimes canonical. books are the highest level of canon, and they are bad at numbers too. the 2 levels tall is just gameification to avoid LoS fuckery ala' w40K sweaty tryhard tourneyfaggotry. you can replace all miniatures with cylinders of a certain size and hex for each scale of battletechnology.
>>96689910that's wrong, as its in a rulebook for the game, which is lower level of canon than the books.
>>96689898Art is the lowest form of canon. There is a difference.
Do you guys own any terrain mats? Where do you get yours?
>>96690116Gale Force 9 has someYou can also make custom ones with deepcutstudioCan't comment on the quality of either yet since I am still painting my 3D terrain
>>96689898Does anyone have an image that photoshops mechs like this at roughly the right scale but next to real life buildings from the POV of foot traffic? I'd love something like that
>>96689898Seems they bumped the height on some of these designs by a few meters since last time.
How the hell does the Chatterweb function?
>>96690049>>96690039The art is sometimes good and the books aren't so take them down a notch.Though there is something funny about seeing plain numbers given on an official, modern, overseen product and going "nuh uh! they said they're 30 metres tall in "battletech: trial of the aardvark clan" novel from 1986 so it's wrong! higher canon!"
>>96689898When it comes to scale, personally I think Lights should be like this...
>>96690513...while Assaults are more like this, with Meds and Heavies somewhere in between.
>>96690513>>96690517Problem is those sizes have little to do with what we know about their mass. Commando should be 6, maybe 6.5 meters tops. Unless it is made of pure fucking carbon and styrofoam. If we use more reasonable sizes:BA 2-2.5 meters.Protomechs 3.5-4 meters Lights 6-7 metersMediums 8-9 metersHeavies 9-10 metersAssaults 10-11 metersYour proposed assault is like 25 meters tall and should weight over 600 tons minimum. The torso alone could probably be used to make 2+ Abrams tanks.
I remember when HBS RedditTech tried to declare that mechs were closer to 20m in height till an Aerotech fag quietly pointed out there was no way at all they would ever fit in a dropship if that was the case.
>>96690537Based on the old art the Commando was all legs so was considered quite tall for its weight class, see pic related. New artwork realized how silly that looked so its become a lot squatter so the older scale doesn't make as much sense for it.Generally the accepted scale was:Lights - Up to 8mMediums - 8-10mHeavies - 10-12mAssaults - 12-14mWith there of course being exceptions in each class.
>>96690457Install IRC and give it a spin.
>>96689848If using quirks (but that's not standard rules), some mechs do have quirks represent them being taller or shorter than average (they get more or less benefit from partial cover). Additionally, superheavy mechs are 3 levels tall.The rules are to some degree an abstraction for gameplay's sake, but it can be assumed the average height of a mech is around 12 m and, barring some exceptions, all mechs are so tall that a 1-storey building will cover their legs and a 2-storey building will provide complete cover. For something like the Locust the partial cover rules still work despite it being shorter than a Warhammer or Atlas because 2/3rd of Locust's height is legs. For Atlas or Executioner, their head might be poking over a building but presumably not enough to make an easy target when moving, and in combat they can be ducking down to avoid shots when necessary.
I made a 3D hex board for my home games out boards from Arena of the Planeswalkers, tiles from Heroscape, and the punch out trees from Alpha Strike.I wanna get the heroscape bridges to give the vehicles and battle armor an easier way across the river and landmark to fight over.
>>96690641Cool.
If the ratio of used to available armor was clothing, which mechs would be dressed the skimpiest?
>>96690697Most Hussars and the Locust 1M would be in bikinis.
>>96690641Looks good
>>96690724>locust-1Mnot even a bikini, topless with a vanishingly small set of bottoms
>>96690641>>96690688>>96690732I remembered that I have the castle kit so I made a couple of bridges out of that and saved like $50. I feel like it works just as good.
>>96690741True but to keep things SFW would have to request that Coyote and Roadrunner would be drawn in bikinis next to their respective Locusts.
>>96690697the legendary PPC Locust would be running around with>clothing: zero>ribs: visible>eyes: bloodshot>BAC: .30>erection: massive
>>96689555This sounds like your typical Bryan Young autopromotion, but i know the guy is a total wuzz and would never get into this "nazi place", so its maybe one of his retarded fans.>>96689278The Beluga Titan seem to be on its way, a shame, the rest of the mini is aceptable, but that fucking head...
>>96690537>Commando should be 6, maybe 6.5 meters topsAt 8 meters, you already need to largely place the pilot inside the torsor to make things work with the given designs.
>>96689357Eh. I printed a company of Anzu variants, I do t need any more.
>>96689701Famously so. Bayview windows and a modern esthetic studio apartment. Sublet your cockpit whenever you are using your engine to power a settlement.
>>96691496as a Godforsaken resident of a major leaf city, I swear by Allah that I have rented apartments smaller than that cockpit for more than 1000 USD
>>96690513>>96690517All mechs are capable of punching all other mechs in the face, without leaving the ground.
>>96691163I like the helmet, the new Grand Titan is the bastard butt baby of Optimus and Megatron.
>>96691163I have seen pictures of that Gothic Shrapnel cover without Young's name on it. So even CGL knows that guy can't sell fiction.
>>96689126Pyrexian mecha!!!
>>96690784Did we have a physical description of those two? I think there was but I can't be bothered to go back however many threads that was.
>>96691563I think was only a hotness rating.
>>96691172I'm not the one who decided that it should weight only 25 tons. Anything that is human like in appearance and is made of anything even close to steel in density goes something like this:2 meters - 1 ton4 meters - 8-10 tons8 meters - 60-80 tons16 meters - 450-640 tonsGeometry and physics are a bitch. Even elephants weight something like 5 tons and they aren't made of super tank armor, metal skeleton and synthetic muscles with fusion reactor strapped to the back.
>>96691651It's super science material so it's stronger than steel but lighter than aluminum.
>>96691743That's not what the rulebooks tell us, anon. Standard armor is not as dense as steel, but it is close enough that you can change one for the other if needed without major problems. And in BT rulebooks are the boss.
>>96690537>>96691651That's assuming the tonnage rating is actual total tonnage and not just max load, excluding empty weight.I mean landers of all type get 3 vehicles per mech when converted and a Shrek sure as fuck isn't 25/3tonsThat green bastard is fat as hellI know its the autistic accountant's choice TTgame but at some point you gotta make some exotic spending classification. Tonnage is tons until you can apply deductible on your return form.
>>96691830Anon, if its max load than they should be even smaller. And the fact that a mech can carry it's own weight on its back if secured properly (lift hoists) also flies in the face of that.
>>96691640https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95753818/#q95764476Somewhere in this thread there's a description of both.
>>96691945Well shit. Guess its only a matter of finding a willing drawfag?
>>96690697The Road Runner us wearing skivvies with the crotch worn out.
>>96689357"Ultimately just an Orion" with a FUPA, dicks growing out of its hips and the weird arm situation going on. Go apologize to Orion. All of them.
>>96688516It's a 3D print that takes inspiration from the primitive version and the original TRO image iirc.
Reposting since its a new topic.--->DavionsGriffin, GRF-1N: David "Davy N" Nichels. 4/6 re-rolled into 6/7Panther, PNT-9R: Kato Danzo. 4/5Centurion, CN9-A: "Butter Boy". 4/5Centurion, CN9-A, Jean d'Aulon, 4/6Rifleman, RFL-1N, A. "Davion" Mann, 4/6Griffin, GRF-1N: Earnest Dogsbody, 6/7 re-rolled into 4/6------------------>CapellansCrab, CRB-20: Emil Kreznik. 5/6Atlas, AS7-D: Wang Walter. 3/4Thunderbolt, TDR-5S: Stacey IV. 6/6Firestarter, FS9-H: "Toasty" 1/3Phoenix Hawk, PXH-1: Yisun Kotchkja. 4/6Urbanmech, UM-R60: Mo Ferguson. 2/4------------------We are currently sitting at 6v6. 2 more slots are open for each side.
>>96692338Going to pass on this one.
Here's a compromise for grognards who don't like 20 damage cap.Your ammo starts to cook off, the mech pilot dumps it automatically. Next turn you can't run or jump, any hit in the rear location kills you, if you fell during the previous end phase you're also dead.
>>96692126
>>96692464
What's the light and assault versions of the Rifleman/Blackjack family? (Jagermech is the weird uncle)
>>96692504aside from the obvious Rifleman II, I would argue that in many way the Emperor is kind of the Assault Rifleman
>>96692525It has lower arm actuators.
>>96692504
>>96691172Some descriptions of lights do actually stipulate stuff like this. There's a Wasp in one of the GDL novels that gets described as the head of the mech basically being a big helmet for the pilot, with the rest of him being seated in the upper part of the torso. Of course that's probably because the Wasp head is just so small to start with but still. Precident.
>gothic is selling worse than the encounters box>the literal cards and cardboard counters box is selling better than 40gay "but its muh doom eternul ripoff" boxes. Lmao bravo Crappy Gay Losers.
>>96693029source?
>>96693238typical liberal response
>>96693238
>>96693238Ask any retailer who bought the set.
>>96693343There's 9 boxes at my local LGS just taking up shelf space, despite buy 1 get 1 50% off. Listed as $95 though, which is steep for something no one really wants.
>>96693343It's completely sold out here. It lasted all of a week in stores. Games of Berkeley has 10 copies, sold them all on preorder, and has it on back order. Sounds pretty successful to me.
>>96693587Sits on a shelf in my LGS, More people are interested in the new TRO 3025.
>>96693609I'll be checking my FLGS for a copy this weekend, although they tend to be pretty far behind the curve for new releases.
>>96693587>>96693609It does heavily vary from location to location what sells and what doesn't.
>>96692464Hell yeah! Classic, powerful, virile. >>96692473Hell no! Cheap, tainted, temuwishdotcom knock off.
>>96689557Still funny they made this for nobody after deciding finishing pledges for their shitty Kickstarter was too much work
>>96693587>Games of BerkeleyLol. LMAOI literally just got a Kintaro for $12, a Lancelot for $14, and a Flashman for $17 at my local store.
>>96694161Enjoy living in your shitty flyover state where they have to keep prices low because you're all poor losers who have no money and no useful skills except to go out and work a farm like the other animals.
>>96692386Not an airport.
>>96691830Does water weight count?
What are some the most basic of basic vehicles of someone getting into them, both in regular BT and Alpha Strike? I mean the middle of the road "starters" like the Griffin or Shadow Hawk equivalents for tanks, VTOLs and so on.
>>96694610Scorpion. It's like the basic bitch of tanks.
>>96694610LRM Carrier, SRM Carrier, Vedette, Bulldog, J Edgar, Manticore, Maxim, Harasser, Pegasus.
>>96694610Manticore and Schrek>and Hetzer of course I mean look at it
>>96694610Patton, Hatzer, Manticore.Warrior Helicopter
>>96694181Sorry buddy, but I live on the better coast. Cry more califaggot.
>>96694610Your platonic tanks are Scorpion, Bulldog, Manticore, Patton, and Rommel. They look like tanks, they act like tanks (although the Rommel has a more specialized use case with its AC/20)
>Raven, Vindicator, Cataphract and ChargerAny other notable Introtech Cappie mech?
>>96694828Victor
Is the mechbuster good?
>>96694828Firebee?
>>96694935It's a cheap mobile AC20, but it's easy to counter.
>>96694828UrbanMech
>>96694828I'd add the Catapult and Highlander to that list.>>96694952If going that route then why not include the Koschei or Xanathos?
>>96693029Its not, demand has been pretty high. Not nearly enough for me to have people call me everyday asking if there is pokemon product available but randos coming into my store and buying product.
>>96694935It's highly efficient for its cost, but it has very limited endurance. The Kraken Unleashed plan of basing Mechbusters on a submersible aircraft carrier for sneaky hit and runs is the golden usecase for them. Surface near a target, launch a bunch of Mechbusters to wreck it, get them back and resubmerge before the enemy can muster a serious response. Their landing zone being close to the target means they won't run out of fuel and the attacks being hit and runs means they won't need that much ammo (which is good, because they don't have very much of it.
>>96694472You're supposed to sweat it off sweaty
>>96694658I paired two Scorpions with a Marauder-3R and had fun just going around sniping mechs.
How come no one sells Amazon battle armor prints? The official ones look awful.
In the initial Trial of Position to join the Warrior Caste, is it correct that the cadets get a Heavy and are expected to each fight a Light, Medium, then Heavy in sequence (assuming the Trial goes normal way and the cadets don't start a melee)? It seems like they'd have a pretty high success rate if their first matchup is Heavy vs. Light, even if the other guy has a little more experience. That also seems like it would make it really common for low-ranked Warriors participating in the Trial to actually get killed, resulting in unsustainable attrition rates. I suspect I'm missing something. Are there some kind of qualifier Trials to decide what Mech the cadet gets or what opponents he faces?
what's y'alls tips on highlighting and shading? I have it down, sort of, but when using a color like Xereus Purple, is seems like it takes a lot of work to make it stand out. like it's still too dark
>>96695386It's all politics, crazy Kat was put in a Warhawk against a Victor because she pegs the khan nightly. What you get and what you fight is not arbitrary or objectively fair.
>>96694658>The guy in the corner with a quikcell manual
>>96695386The warriors cadets fight are typically solahma, so them dying isn't a loss for the clan.
Noob here. What color are your D6's for rolling? Currently got white/black/red for movement dice, and I don't want the dice people roll with getting confused with the non-rolling diceAlso how do you display torso twisting on the board?
>>96695950Torso twisting doesn't need to be displayed.
>>96695950I roll in a dice tray or box of doom to avoid displacing movement dice, and torso twisting doesn't have to be tracked since it's an instantaneous thing. You twist when you're declaring shots and then untwist immediately.
I like the wyvern. One of my favorite mechs
>>96695386It's totally rigged. Usually they have no reason to intentionally wash a cadet, but the 'possibility' of making Star Colonel off of your trial is not broadly a reality except when the Clan intentionally makes it so.Beyond being a piloting savant, intentionally cheated for or lucky as sin, it's largely determining pecking order out of the creches, who gets to lead the star and who all gets shuffled in under them until they get the chops and political backing to advance.The PGI Clans expansion I think shows off rather fairly that after Jayden pulls his two kills, they send in a ringer with a Timber Wolf to absolutely skull fuck his Summoner. You could argue it was a fair fight, but both how they framed it and the fact they soft-balled you with a Mad Dog and A Myst Lynx first, it seemed like a setup.
>>96695950I either place the movement dice either behind or in front of the mech to let people know where my butt is. Then I just torso twist when appropriate. I know some people have torso twist markers as well.
>>96695950I picked up some blue ones, but it's really up to you.
>>96695950I have variously colored pairs I bought as singles from Chessex. My movement d6s are 12mm, and my rolling dice are 16mm so I don't accidentally pick up the d6s for movement. I have an ovetsized d12 for a turn counter.I don't mark torso twists. I don't see there's a need to. I do have little pawns I use to mark mechs that have fired already, and mechs that need to take PSRs.
Redpill me on the sword. How do I become one with the blade?
>>96696180The sword has two purposes>Punch table strikes give you a chance to TSM headcap in mechs like the No-Dachi>The inherit -2 makes it good for smacking down fast lightsPersonally I think it should have a defensive bonus, like +1 to the TN of physical attacks against you, but no one at CGL listens to me.
