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Previous thread:>96681508

>Legacies:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:
https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N

>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/
>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/
>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)
https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS
>30k TACTICA & TIPS
https://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics

『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』
>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/
>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colours
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview
>More lists
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions
>What size magnets do I need?
5x1mm
>Tactics
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics

>Thread Question:
Do you miss sweeping advances?
Do you like CO-OP missions against an "NPC" forces? Hordes of raving militia, daemons, etc?
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hmm today i shall seethe about the unfairness of my fate
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>>96696529
But anon, you do that every single day
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>>96696624
no don't tell me that
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>planning an army build using all of my saturnine + daemon allies
>get an idea maybe for once burningore could be useful to guarantee the deep striking daemons
>check rules
>only works on daemon manifestation detachment
>which the praetor doesn't unlock
God this upgrade is such a massive load of shlock
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>Word Bearers Inductii
My brain says max out volkite serpenta and power axes
But my heart says max out heavy chainswords
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt
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If you could make a Christmas battleforce for your faction, what would it be?
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>>96696773
>24
>Charonite
>Ogryn
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>>96696773
2 fellblades
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>>96696773
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>>96696820
fvcking zased
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dang these threads are moving so slow now, did the new edition kill off that much interest?
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>>96696773
Box of SOVL.
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>>96696772
>the mind too small for doubt
>the wallet too big for sense
Why do you say volkite serpentas? Volley fire wounds don't count for combat res do they? And I was thinking power mauls over axes, if they're fighting someone with 2+ saves I don't think they hae a chance either way
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>>96696773
40 mkIV marines
10 tartaros
10 Cataphractii
the plastic praetor and chaplain from BaC
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>>96696834
Wait this is HHG. Fine, here's your holiday box, just paint them all one color.
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>>96696773
30 thallax
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>>96696832
Nah, this is a pretty normal pace for /hhg/ threads. A bit fast even, compared to the drought era of latter 1.0.
The threads just moved insanely fast around the new edition launch due to there being a lot to discuss. But mostly due to numerous tourists, salty 40kfags trying to psy-op the new edition into complete failure, and trolls flocking to the shitstorm to stoke the flames and feed on the misery.
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>>96696773
20x tacticals (w/ chainaxes)
15x jump rampagers
2x apothecary, one with a jump rig
1x contemptor
this would amount to an additional full field cell of my dudes in doctrine from a sister assault company
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>>96696510
Sweeping advances
not even once, the new combat resolutions are much better.

>>96696510
Co-Op missions?
ew anon.
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>>96696773
breachers and tacs or Assault and terminators with a command sqaud sprue in each box, maybe a rhino or rapiers as well.
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>>96696773
Yes, it will be full Forgeworld resin priced.
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>>96696773
A box with plastic outriders, land speeders, and javelins
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>>96696917
I want it.
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>>96696838
Volkite to potentially proc vanguard via shooting
Serpenta are FP2 and Inductii are 2A, so at max size of 5 Serpenta (20-man squad), you're throwing 20 deflagrating shots
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>>96696773
What are the design rules for a battleforce?
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>>96697122
Models
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>>96696773
15 mk6
15 mk2
10 mk3
5 mk6 assault
5 mk2 assault
2 command squad upgrades
full melee upgrade set
full special weapons set
full heavy weapons set
1 rhino
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>>96696917
How much would a box like that go for?
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>>96697159
eight fiddy
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nine hunnerd dolla'
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First ashen circle converted. This pose is goddamn weird and I've got a feeling im going to have to pin this guy given that i do lava bases
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>>96697205
u got sum mold lines to go and attack m8
really cool marine on the whole though
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Can someone redpill me on mag locking, can I just glue a bolter to the hip of the marine and call it a day? For my veteran squad who's holding a melee weapon.
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>>96697205
Cool idea, that purity seal will get stuck and mawled in the chainaxe tho
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>>96697262
yes
the power plant is also another place to slap shit
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>>96697205
Its the arms.
One arm is fully outstretched (to shoot, duh), but the axe arm isn't extended back as far.

I assume the utterly massive jumppack is in the way, otherwise I would suggest bringing the axe arm back a little.

Otherwise you can try have the gun arm be in a running position instead of shooting. Shooting while sprinting IS going to be slightly awkward, and the weird way ashen circle hold theirs probably exaggerates this.
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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone talk about these missions
>whole page of rules to say "attacker holds objectives as normal, defender can only score off vanguard and keeping attacker off objectives"
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>>96697393
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>>96697402
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>>96697405
>here's your night fighting bro
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>>96694743
I had to remind myself how fucking awful Crusade was
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>>96696773
>40 Despoilers
>2 Spartans
>2 Apothecaries
>2 Champions
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>>96697743
Malevolence was already shit, its only saving grace is the leftover material by Bligh and French
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>>96697888
don't worry they're trying to destroy everything Bligh set up they're just more subtle about it then the fags running D&D with gygax's legacy.
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Do transports inherit any scouting or infiltrate rules from units this time around?
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>>96697918
No. Honestly speaking they don't need to, now that units are still allowed to disembark after the transport moved at full speed.
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>>96697945
Fair, but I'd still think things like Seekers having Land Raider DTs doing that were at least mildly amusing last edition.
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>>96696772
those special CC weapons suck and they're expensive. go without unless you just want them cos they're cool

>>96696866
thallax aren't good enough to take that many anymore
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>>96697279
>Power plant
Interesting. Has this even been modelled on official models? None official pics are welcome too
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>>96698261
Thallax are cool, end of.
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Any scans on the new journal?
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>>96698428
marines have run on solar since 1987, the power plant is fanon
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>>96698601
>solar
this is just another name for fusion reactors in pulp sci-fi
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should I paint AL saturnine with black as a secondary colour like pic related?

i've seen both black shoulderpads and blue shoulderpads, I like both
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>>96696510
>be Iron Tenth in 30k
>only purpose is to suffer and die

>be Iron Tenth 40k
>everyone forgets you exist

You know life in a world where white scars have mountains of more lore and popularity than iron hands. 2005 me would never have believed it.
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>>96698660
Bitter Iron boys incoming anon, dropping moons and grav status like its hot. Dads dead but his anger is not.
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>>96698660
only time people care about 40k iron hands is if their rules are broken
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>>96696773
>UM
>Primus Demi-Company
>Centurion w/power maul (no other decent Optae)
>20 Tactical Marines (mk3)
>10 assault Marines (either)
>3 sky-hunters
>Rhino
>2 heavy weapon sprues

Total comes out to $367 which is on the high end but within their usual constraints
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>>96697393
everything that has line getting vanguard 2 if you're the defender seems fun as hell though, as well as any unit that isnt a vehucle being able to score an obj

honestly might try the line advance mission for my next game, I think these could be a good mixup of the rules
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>>96696773
>RG
All plastic: recon marines, MKVI assault marines, plastic storm eagle, some MKVI Tacs, vigilator, and a javelin.
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>>96697393
They haven't been posted yet. I've been waiting, thank you. Asymmetrical missions are dope.
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>>96696773
>2 lasrifle sections
>1 veletaris storm section
>1 tactical command section
>2 valdor tank destroyers
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>>96696773
One of each dreadnought and a techmarine covenant
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>>96698601
No I mean adding gear to the power plant? Like mag locking?
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>>96698631
I like black, breaks off from all the blue, so much blue
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>>96698660
IH are just failed IW
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settling on my 2k initial build list for Dark Angels,

Can't decide for either 8 man Deathwing Companion squad w/ good weapon options or a basic 5 man IC knights and another rhino for my tacticals
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>>96698628
no they literally have hardened solar panels on the backpacks
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>me demanding to buy all two of the MKII assault kits from lgs
turns out the gun was unnecessary
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>>96699350
idk about a model, they tend to have holsters and fastenings or otherwise leather furniture for 'properly' seating equipment. mag-locking is far more impromptu and potentially liable to be disturbed with adverse physical forces overriding the adherence, so to speak
fear to tread ch.13:
>Meros pulled his chainaxe from the mag-lock on his back, and all around him he saw Blood Angels drawing combat knives or unsheathing battle swords.
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>Too late, he realised it had been torn from its mag-lock when he fell.
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>Forrix took his helmet from the mag-lock on his thigh as the rapturous mass of degenerates drew near and the acrid tang of perfumes began to discomfit him.
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interestingly the capacity of a space marine's boots to adhere themselves magnetically to the deck of say, a starship is referenced using the same phrase at one point
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My space marines are the actual gundams in 30k/40k.
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>>96699707
Maglocking boots is mentioned in almost every space ship fight
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>>96696773
>2 Fellblades 1 Praetor
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>>96698631
With all the flavors to choose from, why limit yourself so?
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>>96699874
>Many Legion Pigmentations
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>>96699874
because I really like the metallic blue
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>>96699874
Based AL. I have a unit of veteran tactical marines with disintegrators that I'm plnning on doing in pale grey with bronze shoulderpads and helms.
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>>96699874
Because some people like their minis not looking like shit
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>>96698660
>Forget you exist
>Have the same amount of named characters as EC
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>>96700404
Shouldn't have bought games workshop, then
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>>96698702
Sexy Mastodon anon
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Named characters are gay, why would anyone want one.
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Stolen some bits from Jade Warriors and added them to some Tacticals for a more White Scars look. Still waiting for a shedload of bits to arrive so can't get on with painting just yet.

Show us what you're working on anon
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>>96699726
not nearly enough UNDERSTANDING in the setting for that. Maybe if they're using Tau drives
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>>96700752
Built another one while waiting for work builds
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Thoughts on 3 saturnine command squads and a praetor in a storm eagle, to avoid the can't charge til turn 3 issue of deep striking while still being essentially a free turn of movement at minimum even if it comes on turn 1?
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Do we have scans of the new tactica
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>>96697743
And yet crusade and malevolence are miles better than the supplements we got in later editions. Perspective.
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>>96701009
They really weren't. Siege of Cthonia was better.
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>>96701020
Siege was fuckin preem. Best missions, lore and units out of the entire 2e.
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>>96701063
So the best book from 2nd compared to what is considered the worst books of 1st by some peoples admissions. That’s hardly fair.
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>>96700767
no, tau are gay
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>>96701191
But that's not what I said. I consider Siege on par with Inferno, and if we're also including the quality of the rules additions (in terms of expansions to their respective core rules), Siege was the best book since Tempest. Holy fick did the rules start downsliding with retribution.
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>>96701214
no, the cancer ones
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>>96701242
They're a rip off of real gn drives...
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>>96699874
why do you keep posting this with the same question? most of these suck anyways
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>>96701191
I mean siege was yards better than malevolence and especially crusade. For one, the rules actually worked unlike crusade. And the models and units were fun, unlike malevolence.
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>>96701242
i'm so used to arguing with taufags, that i forgot about that the secret group in 00 had different engines
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I'm using NewRecruit to test out list building and it keeps giving me options for Command units in Terminator Armor, bit I'm not seeing profiles for them in the books outside of the Saturnine Praetorian
Is this Legends stuff or am I a retard missing something?
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>>96701302
There's literally tartaros and cataphractii command squads in the libers anon. Are you blind?
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>>96701273
Are you referring to the demon rules? I never played against demons in 1.0 but the customization options are lovely.
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>>96701309
Sorry, not the Command squads but the Officers, like Librarians and Centurions
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>>96701321
Regular centurion is in the book as well. All the consul in terminator armour rules are in the legacy rules document.
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>>96701314
1.0 daemons were great. They were basically the 4th ed tyranid codex. And like tyranids each subsequent edition has stripped them of rules options and flavour
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>>96701328
>All the consul in terminator armour rules are in the legacy rules document.
Okay, that's what I thought. Good to know I'm not too stupid yet.
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>>96701266
And yet the GN-Xs and GN-flag defeated the "true" GN drive equipped gundams. Really makes you think.
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>>96701456
at the end of the day the cooler suits deserve the win. sieg zeon
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>>96701321
legacies
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Were Blood Angels carrying around Blood vials during The Heresy?
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Finallly...after ten thousand years...i found stls for daemon brutes that fit with vashtorr...
Honestly kind of embarrassing it took me this long to try "fire demon" instead of "lava demon" or "Forge demon"
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>>96701585
>vashtorr
erm
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>>96701585
Get out
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>>96701585
>>96701612
>>96701659

NTA, but I'm sure he means "Malevolent Artifice,"

Those are neat but I'd love to do some Doom style cyberdemons sometime.
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>>96701684
Hey, anon, did you know sympathizers get the rope, too?
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>>96701726
*gasp* So edgy! :O
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>>96701684
Yes, that is what I meant. And good for you because of course right after I spend a month looking for them only to find an alternative I finally found someone offering multi-pose/part doom stls. Look for a guy named kaucukovnik on purple site
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>>96701726
>>96701612
What the fuck are you retards on about, there's LITERALLY a whole dominion dedicated to him, what are we going to start reeing about Sons of Horus too?
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What do about the gap? I want to paint Scars-y patterns on the bikes without the Aquila getting in the way
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>>96701845
his post LITERALLY said he was using nu40k as a proxy >>96701585
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>>96701934
>nu40k
>a daemon miniature
You're mentally ill. Get some help.
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>>96701541
no, it's a tradition they picked up during the Achilus crusade in m41, apparently
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>>96701585
I need to find some demons for my wb. The goal would be to have them look like living flowing marble or metal monsters instead of being overtly demonic
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>>96701950
says "vashtorr" in the post dipshit
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>>96701984
VASHTORR IS A DAEMON YOU RETARD
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>>96701934
>using a GW official miniature for the faction he's supposed to be in and the model he's meant to represent and is perfectly WYSWIG within the rules is now proxying
Kill yourself
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>>96702028
>>96702057
>goalpost shifting
He's post primaris, by definition "nu40k"
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>>96702065
Anon you can't shift a goalpost you're the only one kicking into, what's banned are primaris, not everything after that, unless we're now banning all the greater daemons other than khorne?
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>>96702105
Does Vashtorr have a datasheet in Fantasy or AoS? I'll concede if so, I don't care enough to be researching those.
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>>96702123
No. None of the 2020s named demons have crossover
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>>96702123
NTA but no, they've stopped doing that, the Slaanesh daemons only got white dwarf rules IIRC in 9th and they didn't transfer over to 10th. In general, GW is trying to deprecate daemons (at least their current range) as a 40k army to only be in AOS/fantasy, to satisfy the bookkeepers who hate cross game armies
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2 days till blackshields.
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My Space Mongs got their first ride. I'm still going to smear some more poo on it sparingly, but it definitely changed my future oil recipe.
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>>96702285
>GW is trying to deprecate daemons (at least their current range) as a 40k army

they've been rolled into the relevant Legion codex, Slaanesh is in CEC as LEGIONS OF EXCESS while the CSM in the same book are EMPEROR'S CHILDREN

makes sense given how small the number of units for each daemon faction is, has always been and is likely to stay - a lot of the new AoS-era units never really looked the part in 40k anyway, do you really want the combine harvester coming at you between two Land Raiders and a relic Leviathan?
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>>96702549
Very nice. I think you're right there in the sweet spot for dirty white armor.

Question / suggestion: Have you ever tried mixing pigment powder with water? You can apply it with a brush into recesses, then come back after it dries and add / remove / feather blend it with a damp brush. It's like oil point but even easier, and it leaves a really cool matte dusty finish if you do it as your last painting step.
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>>96702332

I'm interested to see if Shattered Legions are halfway playable this edition. You can kind of get there already just by throwing a lot of allied dets at the problem, but it would be nice to cut down on the cost of detachment-granting HQs for each.

Would also be nice to have Crysos Morturg/Nemean Reaver rules, but I'm not holding out hope since Meduson is in the core legions book and he sucks.
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>>96698660
For being cool cyborg dudes I feel like its wild just how unpopular they are.
Even crazier is just how poorly written a decent chunk of their stuff is (excluding shattered legions and the black books.)
Such is the fate of a legion whose purpose is to make others look cool
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>>96702769
I'm pretty sure they hard confirmed no crysos morturg or any other HH1.0 character that never got a model, they just told you to run them as whatever Consul they were closest to (ignore the fact that they took away the option to literally take any of Crysos's wargear from moritats...)
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>>96702785
> Always bring order to chaos
> Never arrest anyone
> Just shoot everyone
> Always grade F
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Man, on one hand, I can totally see where Anon was coming from connecting this to malevolent artifice, on the other hand I don't think I fould ever look at this and not see the video game enemy in it rather than a Warhammer daemon
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>>96698702
did you have to mix all those paints just to make black? surely there's an easier way



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