Can't See Shit Edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>96694651>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Thread question:What's your least favorite Realm? What's something positive you can say about it?
>>96704258>What's your least favorite Realm? What's something positive you can say about it?Chamon, not really because I have a particularly negative opinion on it, I just know the least about it and metal seems like a pretty barren concept to go with.
>>967042583rd made me hate Ghur
Ordered the HoH box. Does it allow me to make the alternate dominator version, or the rocket launcher?
>>96704258Shyish seems like an awful place to live. The cultures are cool but just trying to survive there now that Nagash has set up sounds like a nightmare. Paying a bone tithe is only easy until you run out if graves to dig up in a graveyard. There was also the Prince Maesa story where he meets the crazy wizard obsessively digging through a desert of grave sand. He kept finding trace grains of shadeglass that could extend his life but lost his mind searching for them.
>>96704530Yeah. It's the full kit of each unit. No need to worry about pushfit alternates.
>>96704555Really the only "safe" realm would be Azyr.
>>96704607Give it an edition, Azyr will be breached, trust the plan
>>96704555thats why you just live somewhere not controlled by nagash or any particularly malicious undead, works for a lot of people
Which realm would have a lot of snow? I have a winter mat I'd like to get some use out of.
>>96704652Ghur and Shyish are your best bets I think. All realms have a snowy area except ghyran
>>96704652all realms have snowy areas, ghur and aqysh are the two that i know have major arctic regions in the mapped out central regions of the realm but they've all got them
>>96704652I imagine hysh has an area where either the snow is all made of fine crystals that kill you, or an area where all the snowflakes are mirror reflective, or an area where the snow glows
>>96704915imagine being a general of a huge army and a single snowstorm, not even a full on blizzard, hits you guys on a march and 90% of them die from tiny ass snowflake blades
>>96704652The ice cave Underworlds setting was in Ghur
How is spearhead? Is it any good?
>>96704652Literally every single Realm, lorelet.>>96704258>TQChamon.There's literally never been a single thing written about Chamon that has interested me. At this point, a story/piece of lore being set in Chamon is almost enough to make me avoid it lmao
>>96705206Yes
>>96705206As someone who has played it twice and will soon play a third time, it's solid but I fear the inevitable staleness that comes from owning only one spearhead compared to owning a single army. There's only so many ways you can cut a lemon before some juice gets in your eye
What do you expect of Warhammer Quest Darkwater?? Personally i hope they make the enemies more interesting and challenging.
>>96705224I hope we get water mechanics. Like flooded areas affecting movement and combat and a high/low tide wheel that determines it.
>>96705224why did they even already announce it if they have nothing to share yet?
>>96705244It's odd too nobody's leaked a sprue
>>96705223This would be temporary I am doing a slow grow army, and want to make use of what I have.
>>96705283Same here. I already have almost 2k because KB are cheap as hell secondhand but my LGS doesn't have the GHB in stock for "full" games
>>96704652All of them
>>96704258>tqAzyr because it's in the cuckshed, though I actually really want to see some maps and shit. I imagine it as basically a mini galaxy with cities taking up entire 'the little prince' esque planets. Fuck it bring glamcore high fantasy back.>>96704652Basically every one, especially when you consider shit like bcr everwinter shenanigans. Most appropriate I would say ghur or shyish maybe?
Do you like having your entire army follow the same color scheme or do you sometimes mix things up amd give some models some individuality? Im thinking of painting the scales on my DoK snake girls a few different colors rather have them all be the same shade and pattern.
>>96705237That sounds really cool.>>96705224I want more kind of missions, not just kill, recollect and rescue
>>96705434I've done both and I can't say there's a clear winner. On some armies it looks better if every unit or group of unit has their own scheme (seraphon for example), others I prefer a more unified look (cities). Dok could get away with some variety in the snakes i think.
>>96705206It's amazing to try out factions without having to buy a full army
>>96705434All my Seraphon are blue or green, but they vary between light blue, dark green and the whole spectrum.
>>96705237Why would some kind of sewer/aqueduct have tides?
>>96705685coordinate flushing during blood bowl intervals
HOLY SHIT NEW ARTICLEhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sztFriri/the-beasts-of-chaos-are-in-their-element-in-this-savage-new-era/
>>96705791but this article is from 2023
>>96705791Lol, almost 3 years ago
>>96705016>be free cities merchant on trade route from one desert city of hysh to the next via the mountains>as you climb the temperature strangely stays the same rather than getting colder>you pass through snowy mountain pass previously unexplored >the air is still, and the snow glitters like gems>you touch the snow and it feels warm, almost as though it's absorbing the sunlights energy>breeze blows a bunch of "snow" into the faces of the men in front of you on the caravan>it's just straight mica powder>they all grab their throats, spitting blood down their chests and falling off their seats into the "snow">your wagon passes by them as they look up at you sputtering pathetically for help as blood pours from their eyes and mouths>frantically you pull your bandana over your face, soaking it with your canteen>as you pass over the crest you look back to see a lone trader standing in the road reaching out to you, his chest soaked in blood>he wavers slightly before collapsing into the "snow">you travel though the night, slight breezes washing your party away like great tides>by morning the breeze has died back, and you've escaped the snowy pass with a mere handful of the humble men and women you set out with>for years following your lungs ache, but the thing that truly haunts you is the memory of that lone man standing in the snow>his silhouette is burned into your eyelids, his shadow in every corner, face in every reflection>the doctors say you will die soon. Some sort of crystal growth in your lungs>at first it bothers you but soon you accept it>I'll see you soon brother...
>>96705434I think you'll get away with it if the armor bits match
>>96705791Finally, new art and minis for BoC? Things are looking up
Is there really no way to run CoS with LRL? Fucking where is Settler's Gain
>>96706111Coalitions are dead, Jim.
>>96704652Azur has very high mountains with bears and monsters n shiet.
This game is so dead
>>96706150And big hairless cat-dragons with claws that get sparky from scratching magic rocks all day. I miss the sacrosanct chamber menagerie.
>>96705434Per >>96705551, it's army dependent. To use a historical example, you wouldn't paint a Roman cohort as individuals, but their Gallic opponents would look weird if they were all identical. That said, breaking things up even in 'regular' forces can provide some relief from painting monotony (I'm thinking of a Cathayan force I saw somewhere recently where the owner had painted each teapot uniquely) and even allow you to tell little stories; are those two snakegirls the same because they're from the same brood, for instance?Personally I've just painted a lot of Darkoath where each one is different, but that suited both the army and my own unfortunate tendency to do loose collections of characters rather than army-paint, when it comes to Fantasy.
>>96706114>Coalitions are dead, Jim.Which i hate. I love Chaos Warriors, Chosen, and Knights but sadly I can't use them with god stuff
>>96706111CoS are for humans and for humans only, vegetables, pointy ears, stunties and stormies can fuck off.
>>96705791why they had to die anons? i know they had a bunch of die-hard fans…
>>96706114Yeah but not even a RoR?!
What do Seraphon even do outside battlesLying in the sun like real lizards?
>>96706191Aztec stuff and worship and reverend the fat toads.
>>96706191I remember a short story during malign portents I think where a skink is trying to get into a slann's chamber to deliver some news. On the way on the ziggurat ship he walks over a bridge that overhangs a massive artifical jungle, and he reminisces that he would rather be hunting down there with his spawn-kin, but he has a duty to fullfill, something like that. Skinks in general seem like curious and intelligent types, I'm sure they got a full-on society. Saurus are a bit trickier since they're basically soldier ants in lizard form, but i think they'd enjoy hunting and shit.
>>96706202Yeah, we have Skunk embassadors in cities experimenting with regional attire and stuff so they have their own agency.Saurus have a sense of honour so they're not just ants and probably have warrior traditions and such.
>>96706191run trains on captured elf sluts after the slann is done with them
>>96706191Saurians go hunting, do mock battles, including sports (remember, the lizardmen played blood bowl all along), and some engage in a tabletop versions of warfare, kinda like chess, but with more rules and exceptions, they may also participate in religious rites, but they're not really that into it as much as skinks, but still sometimes they participate in their own ways or have their own little warrior rites. And they also rest on favourite basking spots, yes, the best are reserved for the oldbloods.Skinks do all sorts of things depending on their job, hunting, crafting, smithing, cooking, brewing, sculpting, animal rearing, gardens tending, studying, scrying, etc.Skinks also have a certain attitude and appreciation for storytelling and they have a modified version of said saurian tabletop game but with way more convoluted rules that involve lunar cycles, dice and bluffing; they also like to gamble about the spectacles that go on in the gladiatorial arenas of itzl.Kroxigors mostly work, follow the skinks, or sleep half submerged in water.Nobody knows what the chameleon skinks do, they live outside of the cities.
How do you paint blackened armour, maintaining the metallic sheen? Black and a metallic drybrush before a wash tint?
>>96706347metal with a dark grey contrast over top is usually a go to
>sigmars toll is overwasnt half bad. made stormcast look interesting.
>>96706435got to share?
those chorfs are cooked
>>96706548*cucked
>>96706548>we're sure to win because our armour is superior
It is jarring to see GW abandon the cosmopolitanism of CoS for the old WHF racist divisions. Idk especially with TOW it just feels so trite. Oh man, I can't wait for them to recycle High and Dark Elf animosity again... Maybe we could get a model for [Warhammer Fantasy character] and retcons their End Times development for a comfy 6th edition regurgitation. Why'd they scrap WHF again? Oh yeah, the lack of freedom from a static setting that had become boring by the 2010s.
>>96706548>female deer >horns hmmm
>>96706676>It is jarringOnly if you are retarded, it was obvious a thousand miles away, it is what people actually asked for, and how the setting actually works.
>>96706676Have they ever even adressed any of the end times elf stuff? Feels like aos doesn't really hitch itself to the end times that much surprisingly.
>>96706548>Chorf Girlboss: I'd rather meet Kurnothi in the woods than a Human male >The Kurnothi
>>96706682a few species have them
>>96706676>WHF racist divisions.picrel>Oh man, I can't wait for them to recycle High and Dark Elf animosity again...I hate to break it for you, but animosity between in-setting (not WHFB leftovers) Dakr and High (or rather Shadow and Light ) elves (aelves) in AoS even bigger since they are literally created out of opposite winds of magic.
>>96706726Yeah, ignore the first concrete element of the setting being the cities of sigmar and ten years of fluff and it's obvious Retard, it hasn't even happened yet that's how fucking stupid you are.
>>96706728the only canonical part of the end times is that chaos, with archaon, brought the end of the worldeverything else might as well be non-canon
>>96706682Even the legged ones have them
>>96706548giwtwm
>>96706743>and ten years of fluffNow let's be honest here. It's been ten years of placeholders, while writting was focused on everything but CoS.
>>96706742Winds of magic aren't opposing forces in AoS?
>>96706767>Winds of magic aren't opposing forces in AoS?Hysh and Ulgu are.
>>96706548>laughs in 3+/5+++ and ap-3 flamethrower
>>96706764>It doesn't count... because umm it just doesn't!
>>96706771Based on what? Their relationship as night and day cycles for the realms? Shouldn't Ghyran and Aqshy be opposed then? That's the goto emblem of harmony in the realms
>>96706788Because it's literally Greatswords from WHFB
>>96706809>Based on what?Based on their nature and lore. Tyrion, Teclis and Malekith literally used Hysh and Ulgu antagonism to keep Slaanesh in hornyjail inbetween the realms.
>>96706809>Shouldn't Ghyran and Aqshy be opposed then?More like Ghyran and Shyish
>>96706832>They're opposed because they and their avatars cooperate ehh
>>96706864They are opposed this is why their alliance to chain Slaanesh is temporary and starts breaking apart in Broken Realms
>>96706743I'm not the one ignoring anything, you are, the cities, as a book, were always a patchwork of ever diminishing leftovers that was always inevitably going to remain human only for the simple reasons that all the other REAL factions that also coexisted with the cities fluffwise, such as stormcasts, kharadrons, sylvaneth, khainites, would have always had separate books, and that the faction's only reason for existing, once the leftovers are thrown out, is to portray the common MAN.No dwarffag or elffag wants a brand new model line of dwarfs or elves wasted as add-ons to cities.No one.If you want cosmopolitan cities, ask for coalition rules and cross compatible model lines, not whatever you're bawling about.
>>96706916Just admit they're scrapping ten years of fluff, which they are. GW retcon all the time. Why are you so autistic?
>>96706924It's like BoC, it doesn't matter if they had a battletome and fluff and whatever because it was WHFB models... You can't take the AoS setting at it's word unless it's new models
>>96706924They're not scrapping anything, the cities are still cosmopolitan melting pot of humans, stormcasts, dwarfs and elves, the rules just don't portray that anymore because you can't add said stormcasts or dwarfs or elves from the other books anymore.Ask for coalition rules, retard.
>>96706938>You can't take the AoS setting at it's word unless it's new models
>>96706953DoK got new models for AoS
>>96706947>other booksThey were always one book and still are
>>96706975Ignore that. It's outdated, Aelves are in LRL or DoK and FS and Dispossessed are in a new book
>>96706963Yet their basic troops (3 units) are all from WHFB
>>96706916>No dwarffag or elffag wants a brand new model line of dwarfs or elves wasted as add-ons to cities.>No oneSpeak for yourself faggot. I want homogenous CoS Humans, Duardin, and Aelves. It's what AoS advertised
>>96706981But LRL are literally different race, just like IDK.
James owes me some freakshit heroes. "Aelf with horns" and "ogor but skinny" isn't gonna cut it this time.
>>96706975The only time when they were all one book was during this time.After that point cities and stormcasts would never share a book despite stormcasts being an intrinsic part of the cities.Stop asking for "city elves" or "city dwarfs" or whatever similarly gay shit, ask for coalition rules, that's what actually represents the fluff.
>>96707005Dawnbringers explained Phoenix Temple were just LRL actually
>>96707022GA Order Firestorm Cities of Sigmar 2nd edition Cities of Sigmar 3rd edition Cities of Sigmar 4th edition faction pack
>>96707033it doesn't count. that's a patchwork for old models
>>96705244So they have an excuse to remove Cursed City from the webstore without spawning rumours about the return of Mordheim.
>>96705244drip feed marketing hype is all GW do
>>96707003You're no elf-fag, don't speak for elf-fags.>>96707033>Firestormnot a battletome >Cities of Sigmar 2nd editionno stormcasts outside coalition rules>Cities of Sigmar 3rd editionno stormcasts >Cities of Sigmar 4th edition faction packno stormcasts
>>96707053No one but you is taking about Stormcasts
>Can still play CoS with Aelves and Duardin>SoG faction pack has enhancements for running a cohesive cross racial force NOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT!
umm actually cities are not cosmopolitan they are a series of coalitions with independent people who each have their own book
>>96707064You're talking about wanting cities to represent their nature as a mixed army by fluff since day one.By fluff, since day one, stormcasts have been at the core of every single free city of the realms, so by your argument they should be part of the book.But they aren't, they'll never be, they have their own book, just like the elves and dwarfs of aos that also coexist in the cities have their own books.CoS as a book doesn't have to have city-equivalents of other races, it has to have coalition and alliance rules to bring in those other races to show said mixed force nature.You're literally too dumb to understand this even when it gets explained repeatedly to you, that's why you found jarring what everyone else saw gw doing years in advance.
>>96707104>elves and dwarfs of aos that also coexist in the cities have their own booksWhich ones?
>>96707104Cities of Sigmar has always had Humans, Duardin and Aelves together. From the core book to today the real fluff has been a cosmopolitan society of refugees from Azyr and a hodgepodge of reclaimed cultures. You're just wrong, faggot. You do not know anything about the game. Go back to /whfg/
>>96707110kharadrons, lumineth, daughters of khaine.
>>96707132that's a patchwork. we know dwarfs and elves are leaving
>>96707132>Cities of Sigmar has always had Humans, Duardin and Aelves together.Fluffwise it still does, it's just that said dwarfs and elves come from different books and the rules are bad and unable to represent the coalition.You need to ask for coalition rules, not elves cosplaying as imperials.
>>96707145Look at the faction pack. Check the webstore range.
>>96707132Cities of Sigmar has always been a garbage pin for leftover miniatures that were always going to be thrown out of the window.You're a delusional fag if you think there was EVER the slightest chance of an army where humans, dwarfs and elves dress the same.
guys just wait, AoS is finally launching as a consistent setting in 2028
>>96707149>removed or soon to be removed miniscry moreor start asking for coalition rules
I just wanna see the quest minis....Come on GW you fucks.
>>96707177You'll have to wait until the end of the month.
>>96707053Only elf fag here is the AI morathi slop anon who is afraid of futa.
>>96707183what the fuck why?! I'm fucking impatient NOW!
>>96707172yeah that's what I've been saying shit doesn't count unless it's new and we all know this and have known this for ten years no one is surprised BoC or Bonesplitterz left
>>96707210Bonesplitterz were a little surprising, not because they were removed from AoS but more because GW immediately started pretending their models don't exist.
>>96707300Bonesplitterz were explained as all migrating to the realm's edge or dying in battle again Skaven
>>96707304Yes and then all of their relatively recent plastic molds were thrown into an incinerator. TOW doesn't use them, TOW doesn't even use any of the older Savage Orc models. TOW doesn't even give Savage Orc their own unit profiles, which coincidentally means they're not obligated to provide pictures, art, or lore blurbs.
>>96707327They actually have rules in TOW, big stabbas and everything are playable Rules don't mandate a picture and photography is quite limited in TOW. There are rules entirely without models to represent them like savage orcs or the bombard
What’s the best AoS/Fantasy kit to buy for kitbashing little bibs and bobs unto my CSM? Want to make my Word Bearers a bit more fantasy-like
>>96707371Savage Orcs not having models is a choice. They didn't need to make any new models, they just needed to not nuke the ones they already had. Which they haven't done, for reasons which you will continue to dance around even if I felt like wasting my time replying to you all day.
>>96707003>homogenous CoS Humans, Duardin, and Aelves.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHAUlbqZJ3k
>>96707408I agree but it's just wrong to say they lack profiles? Don't post regarding something you are so uninformed about
>>96707024Orly? Okay I am taking my words back
>>96707418>Don't post regarding something you are so uninformed aboutI am literally holding my copy of Ravening Hordes in my hand right now, I know exactly what I'm talking about. You just disagree with me on what a "unit profile" is
>>96707422https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/TfFoZHbO/dawnbringer-chronicles-xxv-last-embers/The leader of Phoenicium is a LRL Aelf. >'A realm away. Years ago. And a different breed of aelf,’ the second voice sighed. ‘Phoenicium isn’t Anvilgard. Jessor, half the artisans in your shop are aelven, aye? They’ve never given you grief. And every aelf who got displaced seems as confused as we are. This isn’t a takeover. It’s… something else. Something coming for the city.’ Implies there's no distinction between LRL and the native Aelves. Plus they tease a refreshed Phoenix Temple in LRL I guess
>>96707441List building in TOW operates in restrictions. Savage Orcs are restricted, but so is every special and rare option. Do special and rare profiles not count or something? You're just wrong. Savage Orcs are playable, there's rules for the 8e big stabbas.
>>96707451>Plus they tease a refreshed Phoenix Temple in LRL I guessAfter Phoenicium is destroyed the LRL wonder twins retrieve the last ember of phoenix flame and bring it back to Hysh as they were instructed to do. So yeah. Plus Tyrion is called the Phoenix Lord and Whitefang has been hinting at LRL Phoenix Guard for years now.
>>96707460You can play half your list as savage orcs but they aren't listed separately but rather as an upgrade to regular orcs which means
>>96707460I never said they aren't playable. I said they are hidden away as a unit upgrade so as to minimize the degree to which they need to be talked about in the book. Black Orc Boss, Goblin Boss, Night Goblin Boss, these are all separate hero profiles with their own lore entries, etc. but not Savage Orc heroes, same for the units. The one concession I will give you is that there is actually a short blurb describing what a Big Stabba is supposed to be.
>>96707477>Phoenix LordVery original along with armor made out of ivory bone.
>>96707500Fair, I suppose. I'm still holding hope for an arcane journal
>>96707390Uhhh depends I guess, Chosen and warriors as generic guys have some good bits. If you were doing Deathguard I'd say Blight Kings because you get so many fucking extra bits per kit of those guys. You could go for the older chaos warriors kit from the old world though I don't know if you can get that with like 32 guys for like 80 fucking dollars so I don't know if that's really the most convenient cheap means of getting kitbash material.
>>96707507Can't be a phoenix king and phoenix dude was too informal.
>>96707554Yeah, because Malerion is the Phoenix King :)
>>96707554>Can't be a phoenix kingWhy? Too close to Li Dao?
>>96707604>Yeah, because Malerion is the Phoenix King :)Well not technically since that role and title don't exist anymore.
>>96707613The role came with a blessing of power did it not? It's why Morathi sought their souls
>>96707167This entire COS situation just shows that AOS has barely a own identity and is just retracing the shadow of Wfb.Instead of making unique factions we get basically 1:1 copies of fantasy ones (STD,seraphon,COS ,SBGL etc) and the unique armies we have get completely Ignored like IDK.I think this is why people loved 2nd edition so much because it felt like the game started to outgrow it's roots and become it's own thing, this is also why people were disappointed by 3rd edition because it started to go into the opposite direction (rules also didn't help). I love AOS but i can see why some see it as a bad parody of fantasy, sometimes it feels like a person trying to imitate someone by carving it's own face with a knife.
>>96707634Suprisingly not, Morathi's ex-husband just happened to be really really fucking strong (probably due to Khaine's curse or some shit I dunno) but the position was just a title to say you're boss of the elves. Same goes for the whole "walk through the fire" shit being fucking fake or something? Like you just have mages put on your fire condom so you can do it and become phoenix king. Malekith just so happened to also be a super ultra mega powerful wizard and warrior with enchanted armor and weapons etc and he wasn't even Phoenix King. (Probably because his mom and dad were super fucking mega ultra bullshit elves)I think End Times fucked with that a bit so if anyone wants to correct me please do.
>>96707611Lidarally who now?
>>96707659>and the unique armies we have get completely>Ignored like IDK.Because they consistently sell worse than the classic shit people want.
>>96707661I always wanted to use that colour scheme for some aelves tbhon
>>96707661Morathi ate all the old phoenix kings to gain power, not just her ex.
>>96707699Which is odd to me since it's not like they were all super duper powerful. Maybe there's some shit about Asurians flame partially being in their soul or something when they walk through the fire.
>>96705809Why didnt the horses die Fagteller
>most played army in the game is an aos original Checkmate[/spoiler] in all seriousness I get what you mean. I personally like the freakshit, especially idoneth, nighthaunt and jolly cooperation cos, but the classic armies do have larger appeal on the whole probably. Then there's stuff like gloomspite, which is a popular subfaction made its own thing and has been doing really well too. [/spoiler]
>>96707717the heads' hitboxes were smaller
>>96707659It's hard to say what is or isn't an original AOS Army, would FEC be classified as original with all the changes? Are Fyreslayers basically a continuation of original stuff, IDK are pretty new but kinda take cues from Dark Elves with the slavery and sea monsters. I think AOS is still a continuation of fantasy but remixing and changing stuff, which is fine it's just going from more grounded fantasy to more high fantastical crazy setting. I'm fine with it, since GW pretty definitively killed off the old setting and this is what we got now. It'd be like if 40k had the end times and then got a new game called like "Warhammer: Galaxy" or some shit. It's the same genre just doing other stuff in a new setting, it's always gonna be attached because that's just what happens, Sigmar and other characters are still around but in higher roles than before, factions have similar stuff or reused models. (which GW has been steadily working to replace where it can) I think it's fine, I think Sigmar despite being a weird mish mash of everything holds up on it's own. (Just needs some more dedicated time to explain itself and actually have some more in depth looks into the realms)
>>96707721>gloomspiteIt should be renamed. Half the army is all about sunshine and dry heat, not gloom and dankness.
>>96707776Read the battletome? Gitmob hate the sun, they suck it's power hoping to weaken it and create a perpetual gloom
>>96707771>It's hard to say what is or isn't an original AOS Armyif you can use the models as reasonable proxies in tow, then they're not originalsstormcasts, lumineth, idoneth, kharadron, fyreslayers, ossiarchs and warclans are originaleveryone else is a simpler continuation
>>96707771>IDK are pretty new but kinda take cues from Dark Elves with the slavery and sea monsters.More from Dark Eldar since their hunt for souls is mandatory, not just fun.>. It's the same genre>going from more grounded fantasy to more high fantastical crazy setting.Make up your mind.>holds up on it's own.Before they introduced CoS I would likely agree with you.
>Maggotkin and Ogor refresh What's left from WHFB? Sylvaneth and Seraphon only?
>>96707823DoK
>>96707804Seems like more of a personal opinion at that point, which is fine that's basically what you were getting at. I'd still say new FEC are pretty original, Kruleboyz, SOB, NH, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Sylvaneth too (heh tree pun)>>96707806It is the same genre it's still fantasy, just difference from more grounded stuff to higher shit, it went from Warhammer to Warcraft jumped up a few rungs on the theoretical fantastical ladder. As for CoS I think it's fine, I don't ever see these things as like the end all be all, GW will milk as much as they can and I reckon there will be a large second wave of non-human stuff.
>>96707804>if you can use the models as reasonable proxies in tow, then they're not originalsBut you can use nearly all all LRL (except of cow and fox) range and all FS infantry in TOW as well.
It's always so jarring (but funny) to enter a space and find people talking about AoS lore seriously.It's like walking into a random restaurant, but as soon as you set foot inside you realize every patron is drinking deep, huge draws from tall glasses of cooked piss. There's barely any food on the tables. Every face in the building turns towards you as you enter, bloodshot eyes glaring dully through the peesteam. Hot brown piss dribbling through their beards, down their slack jaws, as this group of hidden mutants slowly realize their urineous reverie has been intruded upon by the outside world.
>>96707661> I don't know the original lore but I must spew bullshitHoly fuck. If you don't know what you are talking about, just shit the fuck up.Aenerion the Defender (Morathis 'ex Husband') was incredibly powerful, he was the first elf to ever receive the power of Asuryan (THE Phoenix King and chief of the elven gods). He also drew the Sword of Khaine (and thus received the power of the elven God of Murder). Every Phoenix King after Aenerion is an actual fraud and never received the blessing of Asuryan because they used mages to protect themselves from the Flame of Asuryan (to receive his blessing you literally have to be burned alive and consumed - like the original Aenerion was- and get remade with Asuryans blessing). None of the fucking kings until Malekith (now Malerion) actually endured the Flames, they never received the blessing, and as such their souls aren't any more powerful than any random elf nobles soul. In fact, the End Times states that, by duping the Elven Kingdoms and cheating the test, all of the subsequent Phoenix Kings were actually cursed by Asuryan. The only soul of any worth in Slaanesh would have been Aenerion, and he apparently sliced Morathi's soul in two.Malekith was 100% the Phoenix King (he was the the only one ever MEANT to be King after his father), during the end times he finally understood the test (after Teclis literally tells him he failed the test the first time because of his personal weakness), was fully consumed and reborn by the Flame, and was the last person to receive the Blessing of Asuryan. When he United all the remaining elves in Athel Lorien after the sinking of Ulthuan, he was declared the Eternity King, the undisputed ruler of the Elven race.
>>96707850>It is the same genre it's still fantasyAnd Guardians of the Galaxy is the same genre as Three Body Problem.>As for CoS I think it's fineI wasn't asking your opinion. Just pointed out that it's faction which GW made from no holdbacks to their previous IP and they just made them into fantasy IG. So anon above is correct AoS still have problems with establishing it's own identity.
>>96707865That's anyone discussing any fluff from any GW game (lmao at this faggot calling it LoRe, what a queer)
>>96707870> I don't know the original lore but I must spew bullshitI read the sundering trilogy a few years back, I'm just working with what I got. Thanks for correcting me.
>>96707865>just HAS to mention drinking piss unprompted like 5 times in his little powerless tiradeThere's better places to channel your fetish anon
POST DARKWATER LEAKS BEFORE I PISS MYSELF
>>96707681Maybe they don't sell because they barely have what you could call a miniature range? It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
>>96707717They weren't horses pulling the carts they were 15 foot tall crystals with nude fleshy human arms and legs. They don't breath
>>96707850lmao FEC are not original. I just built the Beastflayers to have some nice modern Ghouls for Mordheim. The FEC range is just boilerplate Ghouls and Strigoi with one (1) new gimmick that appears inconsistently (the emulation of cozy fantasy stuff in a rotten expression... which is a cool idea, but doesn't inform that much of their visual design)
>>96707870So wait that doesn't explain why Morathi would eat any of the other phoenix kings then, if only one actually had any fucking power then why would she give a shit about the rest.
>>96707900>wate>leaks>piss
>>96707882Age of Sigmar isn't old enough to have ever had fluff. It's been lore from day one.
>>96707919I mean you say it like Ghouls and Strigoi had anything before other than just being, well, literal ghouls. And it would be nice if they went more in on the medieval stuff for them.
>>96707919>the emulation of cozy fantasy stuff in a rotten expression... which is a cool idea, but doesn't inform that much of their visual designHonestly I think it's just format issue. The only way to explore their gimmick in miniatures for wargame is adding some meat/bone parodies on classic chivalric elements.
>>96707951Until we get a duo model hero (probably only as some WH+ once a year mini.)
>genuinely enjoying a setting is somehow bad
>>96707938If you take a faction, leave their looks and roster largely untouched, but say "let's flesh out their backstory" I don't really think you're coming up with an original faction.They look and feel the same. Looks and feel do the heavy lifting.Something like Kruleboyz are legitimately original because their design language is changed.
>>96707870Malekith becoming the true phoenix king is such dogshit and basically kills dark elf/high elf conflict by making it meaningless because he was right, like the entire point of the conflict was that malekith could've become phoenix king but couldn't endure the flames and he refused to accept that.Would've been much better if he got over his ego and accepted that fighting his own kin is pointless and working together is the only way for survival becoming a true king not by birthright but action for his people.
>>96707978No that's a good point, it's hard for me because previously they were basically just a subsect of zombies for VC but thanks to one guy writing out and fleshing things out they became a whole faction. But you are correct in that they really do feel pretty similar.I'd say if we can get more minis on-par with Goremayne or Felgryn going harder on the Medieval sword and board aspect of things I think they could be much more independant.
>>96707900Your dad's been leaking dark water since I filled his butt last night
>>96707823>dryads (6ed)>treelord/durthu (8ed)>black arc corsairs (7ed)>drakespawn knights (7ed)>black dragon (8ed)>dreadspears/darkshards (8ed)>executioners/black guards (8ed)>drakespawn chariot/scourgerunner (8ed)>war hydra/kharybdis (8ed)>assassin (8ed)>sorceress (8ed)>doomfire warlocks/dark riders (8ed)>witch elves/slaughter sis (8ed)>cauldron of blood/medusa shrine (8ed)>skinks (6ed)>saurus guard (7ed)>stegadon (7ed)>saurus oldblood on foot (8ed)>bastiladon (8ed)>carnosaur/troglodon (8ed)>terradons/ripperdactyls (8ed)>skink starpriest on foot (8ed)>battlemages (7ed)>hurricanum/luminark (8ed)>zombie cart (7ed)>crypt ghouls (7ed)>wight king on foot (8ed)>necromancer on foot (8ed)>hexwraiths (8ed)>crypth horrors/vargheists (8ed)>zombie dragon/terrorgheist (8ed)>mortis engine/coven throne (8ed)>spirit hosts (ET)>nagash (ET)>morghasts (ET)>manfred/neferata/arkhan (ET)>chaos spawns (6ed)>chaos lord on foot (8ed)>gorebeast chariot/chaos chariot (8ed)>mutalith/slaughterbrute (8ed)>bloodletters (7ed)>skullcannon/bloodthrone (8ed)>bloodcrushers (8ed)>skullcrushers (8ed)>bloodthirster (ET)>skullreapers/wrathmongers (ET)>pink horrors (8ed)>flamers (8ed)>screamers (8ed)>burning chariot (8ed)>magister (8ed)>daemonettes (7ed)>seekers (8ed)>slaanesh chariots (8ed)>hellstriders (8ed)>festus (8ed) [resin]>plaguebearers (8ed)>plague drones (8ed)>poxbringer (8ed)>lord of plagues (8ed)>gutrot spume (ET)>blightkings (ET)>maggoth lords (ET)>glottkin (ET)>night runners (6ed)>plague monks (6ed)>doomwheel (7ed)>screaming bell/plague furnace (7ed)>hellpit abomination (8ed)>warplightning cannon/catapult (8ed)>stormfiends (ET)>verminlords (ET)>thanquol and boneripped (ET)>grey seer on foot (ET)>clawlord on foot (ET)>gargant (7ed)>river troggoth (7ed)>stabbas/shootas (7ed)>spider riders (7ed)>aracnarok (8ed)
>>96708176>gnoblars (6ed)>gluttons (6ed)>leadbelchers (6ed)>ironguts (6es)>yetis (6ed) [resin]>icebrow hunter (6ed) [resin]>frost sabres (6ed) [resin]>butcher (6ed) [resin]>slaughtermaster (6ed) [resin]>maneaters (6 and 8ed) [resin]>firebelly (8ed) [resin]>mournfangs riders (8ed)>scraplauncher/ironblaster (8ed)>stonehorn/thundertusk (8ed)
Age of Sigmar
>>96708176>>nagash (ET)I feel like Nagash doesn't really need an update, same with most of the end times stuff. (Maybe the Mortarch kit?) Otherwise everything at that point basically was the proto-AOS designs and stuff and holds up pretty well truth be told.
>hurricanum/luminarkThis kinda got a minor redo for AoS
>>96708192ranges that are fully compromised of age of sigmar miniatures with not one fantasy leftover standing are>stormcast eternals>idoneth deepkin>lumineth realmlords>kharadron overlords>fyreslayers>orruk warclans>helsmiths of hashut
>>96708221After ten fucking years you'd think it'f be a longer list, just slightly
>>96708231AoS doesn't get Space Marine money...
>>96708231Most End Times models aren't going to get squared anytime soon and they have no place in TOW. All Death factions have Nagash so they are automatically out.
>>96708208I'm not listing what needs an update, just what is technically from fantasyfor example, despite the number of models from fantasy, skaven need very minimal stuff to be updated, just monks and runnerswe can't draw hard cutoffs regarding the age of kits that need an update because for example skinks are technically still perfectly fine despite the age, arguably the one reason to update them is so the kit can be free to be snatched up by tow to establish a parallel model line
>>96708231ossiarchs aren't on the list exclusively due to end times kits, while nighthaunts aren't just for HALF a kit, hexwraiths.Many other ranges are also very close to similar cleanliness.
>>96708281>>96708231To add, Cities went from just being Fantasy units to only half, and frankly they're just there because dark elves are big players in the lore. When GW decides the non-human CoS units are worth the risk they're kicked.
>>96708305I'd enjoy some more city based elves in like traditional just basic like stevedor garb or captain outfits. That'd be fun.
>>96707900Rotigus fucks Kairos
>>96708328That'd be gay.
>>96708345I dunno, having more grounded just regular dwarves, elves, humans all kinda hanging out in similar outfits sounds neat.
>>96708353No, it sounds gay.
>>96708328Go be mutt somewhere else
>>96708362:(
lore idea: Gitmob and gloomspite have a falling out because da sun n da moon were secretly dating the whole time and in the undivorce the sun took the wolfs and whatever gobbos were still latching on like ticks. New mechanic for Gitmob: Chasing Da Sun. The Evil Sun gets set up on one side of the board and moves to the other side as the game progresses. Being directly under it empowers them while being on an adjacent quadrant gives a smaller buff but hastens them so they can move up.
>>96708328Would work if CoS weren't just conscripts from dystopian industrial cities
>>96708382>lore idea: GitmobStopped reading there.
>>96708383Were they always dystopian and awful or is that a more recent thing?
>>96708401they're dystopian now because they keep exploding
>>96708220No, it got adjusted for the TOW war altar that shares a sprue
>>96708403What if Sigmar just build a big magical gun with Grungi, Alarielle made some magical replenishing gunpowder, and Nagash turned a bunch of gravesand in his Nadir into some super kill bullets and they just shot all the evil guys.
>>96708421NAGASH IS THE EVIL GUYS!!!
>>96708426Nah Sigmar just gives him 50 bucks and Alarielle gives him a handjob and he'll be cool.
>Ghyran-themed GHB>Ghyran-themed WU season>Ghyran-themed WQ boxI will be so sad if they don't deliver cool and wacky worldbuilding through this.
>>96708401Greywater, Vindicarum, Anvilgard, Brightspear and Hammer Aqshy were always hellholes.Living City is clean and safe, but a police state that will get you killed for cutting trees or walking on grass)
>>96708442Ghur was meat trees. Ghyran will be tree trees.
>>96708459Shit I was under the assumptions things were a bit more happy and pleasant and hopeful in this setting compared to fantasy.
>>96708382Better idea:Battletome Gitmob Sunchaserz
>>96707973This general can't help but take the bait sadly. It's like when that one perryposter shows up in wfg, like moths to a flame.>>96708036>there's an alternate timeline out there where someone had a killer idea for swifthawk agents and it's now a beloved fan-favourite factionVgh...
>>96708527>This general can't help but take the bait sadly. It's like when that one perryposter shows up in wfg, like moths to a flame.please god don't summon him, there was like a solid month he was fucking lurking here.
>>96708532We're in a post big reveal week, so you already have half of /tg/ Ars Goetia running around
>>96708541I know it's been really fucking annoying, I enjoy when the threads are slow and comfy. I just wanna see anons post minis and shoot the shit about dumb lore bullshit or come up with kitbash/painting ideas. Anytime we get waves of people fucking with the thread it's so blatantly obvious.
>>96708525yes. with a range of new sungitz, like a squad of shirtless gobs with wolf tooth shanks and an evil sun rock.>inb4 noooo they shouldn't be their own thingGSG are all dark night guys with fungus and moistness, Gitmob are all day guys who wear light clothes and have sun motifs
>>96708562Honestly, I don't even begrudge Gitmob being in the same tome with Gloomspite, that's fine. It's the hamhanded "Noooo they hate the sun, actually, that's why they fit in!" that annoys. It'll probably be retconned anyway, like Ogres going back to Maw worship after 10 years of pretending they were suddenly big GorkaMorka fans.
>>96708562>GSG are all dark night guys with fungus and moistness, Gitmob are all day guys who wear light clothes and have sun motifsPlus, the Gitz book's starting to get pretty bloody overstuffed. Time for a split, and cave-dwellers-vs-plains-dwellers is a logical one.
>>96708551I don't AOS but I notice how ultramarine-alike the human dudes are there.Shit you cannot escape from.
>>96708525>>96708562>>96708625Alternate thread question :You have 6 new kits to split gitmob from gloomspite and make them their own faction. How do you do it?
>>96708562This just this. I still can’t understand why James couldn’t make them a whole flavor. Sure Night goblinos have spiders, Squigs and troggs, but this dudes have wolfs, warmachines and lots of possibilities… Besides the obvious aesthetic clash.
>>96708638At the end of the day, even if you have all these different Warhammer games, they're all made by GW. The stark differences between, uh, mildly competing product lines made by the same company are far less than console warriors would have you believe.
>gw decides to do a cheeky sun and moon theme>aosg has a collective aneurism for a year straightautism. actual mental illness
>>96708695If they did that, I would be fine with it. Instead they went with:>ACTUALLY, these Goblins also Hate the sun. THEY HATE IT SO SO MUCH. THEY HATE IT SO MUCH ALL THEY CAN THINK ABOUT IS GETTING RID OF THE STINKY SUN>Anyway, that's why it's called Gloomspite Gits, the Moon themed and ONLY Moon themed Battletome>Get it right, ya'llIf they actually just owned up to what they did it would be fine.
>>96708653semi elite goblins in full suits of padded armor with those little rectangle plates and make em BIG, I want a big rickety war machine that's just a series of mirrors on a platform that does big AOE damage as it rattles along but melts anyone caught within X range of it, a giant sun squig skeleton based hero like Gobapalooza carrying the bones of a mangler squig, would love a more organized shield infantry thing where they have the tetsudo formation (with mirrors or reflecty things) then I dunno, weird sunaddled goblin that looks like the guy from castaway with a big beard super thin and addled like he shouldn't be out in the sun and it's seriously affected his mental state.
>>96708527Please understand, it's more interesting to have human retards pull floating islands with chains to develop independent isolated settlements instead of having Swifthawk managing outposts and running missives across the disparate cities of the realms
>>96708718Nah, this way is better, it offers both an opposition between the two, a way for them to come together, and puts them as ideal enemies of lumineth and hysh.
>>967086536? More than enough Snotling wagonsSnotling chaff, pic related, goblinos with crossbows, a giant war machine death wheel, elite gobbos riding armored wolves.I would like a hero with a giant kind of Fenrir wolve too.
>>96708722I think a hero on a big ass war machine that's a glorified sun tanner on wheels who's so fucking fried in the head he thinks the sun talks to him and is constantly threatening, taunting, and encouraging him like a schizo god would be funny"The Sun talked to me once. Then it talked to me again. It's still talkin' to me now. SHUT UP"
>>96707017You're gonna get another Kurnothi hero and you'll be grateful.
>>96708695You being a faggot with shit taste has nothing to do with /aoag/ mental status. Sure you can slap Krule and Orruks in a book too and you know what? Will keep smelling like shit. Same scenario.
>>96708754Would be really funny having a shit ton of umbrellas above him that clearly are worn or burnt through, he's just blasting everyone with magnifying glasses and mirrors pissed off and not 100% sure what to do with things.
they should just soup everything into grand alliances like the good old days
the real question is not why are gitmob in gloomspiteits why are spiderfang still there when gitmob were so obviously supposed to replace them?
>>96708812they forgor
On the rumoured Freeguild Gargants. Will they be City Gargants or just some mercs in Freeguild gear
>>96708812>from giant spiders to regular size wolvesWhat a downgrade.
>>96708812Spiders = poison only if you're one of the 10 people living in Australia. Normal people associate them with webs 1st
>>96708858Enough with the Freeguild. Not everything in CoS has to be Freeguild.
>>96708812bladdy bastard delete this
>>96708750Pump wagons would be a great addition, they're inherently silly. >elite gobbos riding armoured wolvesI would like to see them ride something else, like that buffalo thing that carries the doom diver. Or maybe some rhino-like animals.>>96708754Sovl
>>96708873almost every species of spider on the planet has venom
>>96708873Regular spider riders don't even have a web ability
how to play IDK fuckers? they are to squishy to withstand prolonged fights, they are to dull to actually kamikaze into enemy and do a lot of damage, sure they have a good mobility but it doesn't score objectives and win games.
>>96708994If you did these, could you tell me how you did those bases?
>>96709008that's not mine, but it looks like picrel
>>96706996No they aren't.They have WA, SoS and Doomfires from Fantasy.Both types of sneks and both types of Khinerai are new.So 4/7 are AoS.Also doomfires no one uses
>>96707184There's more than one of us. Pretty sure some of the others are actually gay
>>96709100who cares, we're talking about imaginary women with or without an imaginary penis. I'm more discussing the one in particular who stopped using a shitpost because the porn star in question had a penis and wasn't pegging someone.
>>96708769>>96708901Imagine a goblin who hates the sun so much he forces his stupid dogs to cart him around the realms so he's always underneath it and following where it goes and yet wonders why his head hurts and his mouth's dry and his eyes hurt and his flesh hurts and everyone is like "dude go back to your cave" caves are for pussies and fake haters
>>96707920She wasn't. She was looking for the king souls which were just the strongest souls, not necessarily Phoenix Kings.Could have been regular warriors that were exceptionally brave and heroic etcThey shouldn't have used that wording as easy to read it as Phoenix King souls
>>96709114Oh lol that's me. It's not slop, I either made my own or copied and edited exisiting meme formats
i want fucking spiderfang refresh, not squatting
>>96709135I'm old enough to remember when WHC hinted that Morathi might have accidentally allowed some powerful elf soul to escape Slaanesh and then absolutely never followed up on it again.
>>96709177That spider is some sort of insider joke? How many years has been?
>>96709183>i don't read the lore: the post
>>96709192A little over 3 years now
>>96709192Reliable leaker said it was a second incarnate intended for a cancelled Gallet campaign that also would have featured intact versions of the Dawnbringers terrainYou can see art of what it was intended to look like in the background of one of the 4th edition books
>>96708994They’re really hard. And honestly not very good. They’re not entirely bad and you can win games, but you’re gonna have to be thinking strategically the whole damn game compared to someone like StD who can just kinda shuffle around, toss some dice, and get the win. The pros love coping about how it’s their mobility that makes them deadly but they’re just not a high damage or high attack army. Not even particularly good profiles to make up for either, so positioning is your strongest tool because it’s really your only tool. It really says something when the best subfaction is the one that will be invalid next year. Not to mention listbuilding is ass where spam is king and your heroes have the restrictions of a much larger roster. Again, you can get wins with them but it’s an uphill battle the whole way even if you’re very good.
>>96709226Genuinely what the fuck happened in 3rd???
>>96709226>>96709192The art in questionSomething I haven't noticed anyone point out is the fleshy collar thing that was also seen on the Tarantulos Brood leader model
>>96709257Conflicts with The Old World (Beasts of Chaos were supposed to feature heavily in the cancelled campaign but had to be moved to TOW) supposedly, plus possibly a generally negative reception to the Krondspine Incarnate
>>96709257There was this little thing called largest land war in Europe since WW2 freshly off the hills of the largest quarantine in human history, resulting in numerous supply issues and other turmoil
>>96709259Wait a minute, that's not a spider, that's a dude in an orange shirt
>>96709154So there is another one that spams AI slop...
>>96709259>>96709311Look at this shit, he's got chicken feet for hands.Spiderfags would have roped from thier webs if GW showed this
>>96709126Hear me out, same concept but massive high tower overloaded with mirrors and reflective surfaces, goblin has like tinfoil underneath him lining his cart and have the saddest hairless busted up wolf ever, maybe give him a hat with no top to it exposing his burnt blistered ruined scalp. Could have a little goblin holding the fucked up umbrella over him too that's just full of holes and is stopping nothing. I want a fear and loathing in las vegas vibe.
>>96708880Its GW. According to the Rumours upcoming releases are >Arch-knight battleline >Marshall character >Warpriest>Cogfort>Freeguild Gargant near end of editionCoS is going to be Freeguild, Devoted and Ironweld.
Anyone tried making the soul wars SCE into the new Spearhead? Only thing I'm missing is somehow turning the Evocators into Prosecutors
>>96709442I don't know what ass you pulled this rumour from
>>96709444Evocators are clearly Reclusians
>>96709450Boole from TGA. The same person that leaked the WHQ being in Ghyran and the Ogor, Fyreslayer revamps
>>96709474Show me where he said anything about a freeguild gargant
>>96708968flinger halves movement
>>96709226WD released the scraps of it too including art of the incarnate
>>96709466They aren't in the Spearhead though. Just to clarify, I mean this one:GENERAL Lord-Vigilanton Gryph-stalkerUNITS 1 Lord-Veritant 3 Prosecutors 5 Liberators
>>96709450>Gooood Morning, storyteller's back >Y’all ever heard the stories of Ironweld Arsenal? >Word is, after the Realmgate Wars, they straight-up engineered miracles of tech—whole small walking cities rose from nothing, rolling onto the battlefield to crush every last one of Sigmar’s enemies >You know the names of those moving fortresses, right? >Well, I’ve seen ’em with my own eyes while crossing through a Realmgate >And let me tell you, those things were bigger than Freeguild Gargants—freaking huge!>Maybe we’ll see ’em in 2027? The "Freeguild Gargant" was specifically bolded and underlined
>>96709488https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96618707/#q96620223
>>96704258Calthia Xandire, my beloved. Shame they won't make make more sculpts of her. Have to swap sister heads and clip her hood.
>>96709442>CoS is going to be Freeguild, Devoted and Ironweld.Can't they have Kurnothi? If they're gonna lose all other aelves but there's a big aelf wave incoming, I feel like there's a compromise to be made there.
>>96709558Astra Militarum in fantasy You'll be happy with an ogrin unit
I find it very hard to get invested in the setting unlike with Fantasy since Fantasy felt like an actual world and the factions had actual culture and history while AoS sadly doesn't really have that. Ask an Empire need about the Empire and they can go on and on about it. AoS factions just kind of exist.
>>96709573then leavewe dont want you here, and you clearly dont want to be here either.
>>96709573there is stuff but it's much less detailed in the same way. Fantasy was effectively just earth with factions where you'd expect them to be with full history and general same stuff. AOS is much more widespread and open, you've got some big mythical events but not as much to fill in the blanks in the same nitty gritty details. I'd say as a positive in some cases, much easier for (your dudes) to exist in the world since everything isn't already colored in. But also much harder to get as much history and lore since AOS hasn't had that same type of setup.
>>96709558Kurnothi are earmarked for Sylvaneth because AoS needs to recreate WHFB's Wood Elves despite that army already being recreated for TOW.
>>96708653small pump wagons (option between wings and flails)medium wind wagon (with sails, and bolt throwers)huge pirate junk ship (magically flying)non-suicidal gliders unit (throw bombs)their own scenery piece (rocky formation that they use as portal and racing arch)their own spells ("eclipse" spell, leering eye spell, monstrous wolf ghost spell)
>>96709573AoS lore is very high-concept so most of the stories are centered around gods or very extraordinary people. It's difficult to get attached to many settings since settings are very prone to blend together and be one-offs. But there are some factions; like certain cities, Lumineth nations, stormhosts, etc, and frankly the Flesheater Courts are underutalized they could totally have their own little dramas. But overall it's more tonally accurate to see Warhammer stories as more character-focused, following people's feats rather than seeing people as part of larger factions.
>>967070532nd edition didn't have coalition rules, Stormcast literally got to be full CoS units; they could even be generals, take artefacts from the army, etc..
>>96709573>I don’t like thing>I come to place where they talk about “thing i don’t like”>I will tell them i don’t like thingOk? Now you feel better?
>>96709617I think a tide game would do wonders for AOS, just showing us a more street level view of the setting. Get some characters with some good banter, give us maps set in each of the various realms, maybe have a death or destruction character in the roster and I'd say you've got yourself a sickass setup for things. (Would love a ghoul where your character attempts to have banter with the party but only other ghouls can really understand what the fuck you're saying and the other people just kinda go "Heh, yeah...?" or like one word responses.
>>96709516Cities getting members from Destruction races while losing actual Order associated races
>>96709656Can't even bring stormkeep sce anymore. It's a sad state of affairs.
>>96709539Literally mistook her for a SoB
>>96709558>devoted can’t they become their own thing? is sad have such concept trapped with steampunk enthusiasts and regular infantry
>>96709573Yup, huge issue. Sadly, the people creating the world/lore are idiots.Hopefully one day one of the good BL authors will have a crack at it, but until now I'm 100% in the same boat as you. No place matters or is special.
>>96709740>can’t they become their own thing? fuck microfactions and fuck you
>>96709740No. It's literally CoS in a Nutshell according to GW.
>>96709835>faith, formations, firepowerthis is even worse than the off-brand names of third party proxies
>>96708858>order gets a freeguild gargant>chaos gets a helsmith gargant>death gets a zombie gargant>sons of behemath stop having regiments of renown rules
>>96710105Wait what? They cant be used in other armies anymore? That's the whole reason the fucking faction was made!
>>96710127Are you stupid or just retarded? He's coming up with a hypothetical based on a rumor
I deeply regret not buying the old skaven stuff when they tanked in value right as the new models came out; now everything old is jacked up in price for being OoP
Why would Dispossessed group up with Fyreslayers unless it's also with KO under a new Duardin pantheon? Fyreslayers closed their lodges to all including Duardin and Gotrek hasn't even met a Dispossessed Duardin let alone a group of them.
>>96710374in terms of fluff? because there's been an upheaval of the fyreslayer lodges in aqshy due to goblins, skaven and chorfs, so the fyreslayers are joining other dispossessed and answering the call of grugni to regroup the duardin people, call that the kharadron have as of now largely ignored stillin terms of models? fyreslayers sell like shit, a reinvention of the army was in order, and the cancellation of a separate dispossessed army offered the opportunity to launch both together under one book now insteadalso gw may or may not have plans to expand kharadrons with a subrange of gholemkind effectively justifying the split due to the number of kits and for the thematic division of magic+gods army as opposed to the tech+bots army
What AOS unit should I draw taking it up the ass?
>>96710716Lady ghoul from the Warcry team.
>>96710716Mindstealer Sphiranx
>>96710716Tzaangor
>>96704258Soon
>>96710716The fox archer from lumineth
>>96709211>I'm coping because I didn't read the article: the postIf you don't remember what I'm talking about, that's on you.
>>96707920Honest reason?Because the then-current writers didn't remember/read the End Times, they probably read the same wikis that SlopTuber 'LoreTubers' read, which aren't all accurate, or even if they ARE accurate, are just the oldest info first, and the latest information thrown into a random article toward the bottom (and they don't update the summary intro paragraphs).>>96708018That was explicitly told to Malekith, to his face, by Teclis, during the End Times. The Goddess Lileath reveals all this to Teclis and he is running around stabbing the HE in the back to set up for Malekith to take the throne (because he needs the Vortex undone because he wants to make incarnates to fight the Dark Gods instead of abandon the old world and continue the cycle like what Lileath wants).And as to your second point, that's essentially what he needs up doing, because Imrik and Alariealle essentially tell him he won't get their support if he tries to run things like he did in Naggarond (the Shadow King also says he will put an arrow through his heart if he slips back to the old ways)
I think a kruleboy orruk who has a flock of vultures that swarm and feed on corpses would be cool. it might seem a bit like felgryn but I think it could work if like the uhh the thing and stuff was like the you know and whatever
>>96710716Myrmorn banshee
>>96709871Come on. What else ytou expected from Imperial Guard? It perfectly nails core aspect of the army.
>>96711433Kruleboyz should have more beast stuff in general
>>96711419>incarnates to fight the Dark Gods>cannot even beat ArchaonLMAO
ANONS QUICK DO I BUY A 2ND IRONCLAD
>>96711588yeah
>>96709338Yeah.Pretty sure there's a few of us Morathi chads
>>96711588No, now tell me the name of the store so I can buy my first
>>96711729The Source, if you're in minnesota buy it please fucking god. I just got an Ironclad and don't need a god damn second one.If it's in that case on Monday though I'm calling it a sign and buying it.
>>96711493The only one that got close was Sigmar. Then again, Sigmar humiliated him soo bad the last thing he did before the World gpt destroyed was lunge himself at Sigmar and throw incoherencies like a rabid animal.
>looking at the helsmiths box>beardless chorfsdroppedand how did gw fuck up so bad?
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>>96711985?
>>96712014That's a woman anon.
>>96712018that's also stupidchorf women are supposed to be hidden away and protected while they are bredwhy would women be fighting?
>>96712032they changed the lore because it's AOS and not fantasy so slightly different. Life is valued less all around so if you don't have the gold you get tossed to the front lines.
>>96712032because she has a gun? because it's a fantasy setting? My only complaint with the chorf women is the same as my complain with all GW female sculpts in that they're not very good, and like most GW faces, leave a lot to be desired. They're well realized in the concept art, not so much the model.
>>96712046I wanna fuck that dwarf.
>>96712042that's a great way to go extinct.>>96712046because dwarf women are supposed to be rare to the point that baby makers shouldn't be fighting unless total eradication is already on the table.
>>96712071uh huh
>>96712071is that the helsmiths lore? I didn't get the set so I'm not familiar with their background. That would be a weird thing to write for them if they were going to make femchorfs anyway.
>>96712083>>96712084fucked up male/female ratio is standard dwarf lore, with different setting giving different explanations. i'm fairly confident this was in Old World, tooif it wasn't obvious from my other posts, AoS isn't my go to
>>96712126You'll have to humor me because there's pretty consistently people shitting up the thread with "BUT DWARF WOMEN AHHHHHHHHHHHHH" but yes in this case that's not an issue. Kinda the same way Dark Elves had ladies fighting because evil races fuck more I guess?
>>96712126 >if it wasn't obvious from my other posts, AoS isn't my go toSo your a secondary complaining your headcanon doesn't mach this franchise? Did I get that right?
>>96707771I would say FEC are absolutely a type of carved up ex fantasy army. They are basically just Strigoi vampire counts from fantasy with completely rewritten lore but the models and aesthetic is simply ripped from one to the VC subfactions in fantasy.
>>96712132>but yes in this case that's not an issueas in AoS dwarves are just different?>>96712140it's part of the archetype of dwarves, like elves' ears are pointy. so yes, if AoS is going "but mine are special", yes, people interested in starting AoS will be confused
>>96712161>people interested in starting AoS will be confusedthat's gonna be the case regardless, there's some weird obtuse shit in AOS lore that I still don't fucking understand myself. It's not exactly 1 to 1 in most cases but you're fair in saying it's close enough in most aspects. But you also came in under the assumption the lore was 1 to 1 the same shit so that's also kinda on you.
>>96712161>demon summoning, magic using, slave driving dwarves are fine>dwarf women not being rare (i've literally never heard this before) is crossing the lineyou should ask your handler to put filters on your computer so you don't wander into threads that offend your hyper fixation
I wish they made Lauka Vai sexier. Here's what I woulda done>Nicer face>Bat wings not tattered>Proper armor & clothes for the bat half
>>96712190I just gave mine legs, little avatar of Khaine on the DoK blood wagon has perfect sized legs for her to have a decent stride (and a weirdly toned ass)
>>96712187Well you see anon nobody has ever seen a female dwarf in warhammer fantasy, so they're not real.
>>96712172dawg, i'm not just talking Warhammer Fantasy, i'm talking fantasy in general the male/female ratios is a thing. it has nothing to do with concepts of deep time and infinity lore, it makes people familiar with normal archetypes take a second look.
>>96712200I like taurs
>>96712190if they made her more like a greek sphinx with 90% animal parts and human from the chest up it would have been better.
>>96712211actually it's just because Tolkien never wrote about female dwarfs, which is why they're generally not represented in derivative fantasy settings that rip him off because they have nothing to go off of. Most writers are hacks, which leads to either no fem dwarfs because there's nothing to base them on, or extra stupid shit like bearded dwarfs because they must be 1:1 identical to the male dwarfs.
>>96712215I do to, I just wanted to see if I could do it desu.>>96712211I mean I get it, but hey at least you got an answer!
>>96712227Imagine if Tolkien had the thought of adding a passing mention of female dwarves and just didn't because he assumed people would figure out they exist without blatantly mentioning them.
>>96712227Worst is when dwarves get shitted out of rocks or eggs or whatever and are born fully formed with beards and ale and pickaxes
>>96712259this is also most likely why there are no orc women. God forbid anyone deviate from Anglo jesus's teachings
>>96712259IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, HOW CAN IT BE REAL IF NO ONE TELLS ME IT'S REAL WHAT'S THE FUCKING LORE
>>96712230i did, thank you. and i learned this is a touchy subject for anons apparently. >>96712187>well i've never heard of itread fantasy books. you look like a fucking idiot when you say "well i've never heard of this thing". the anon i'm responding to below admits it a thing authors do>>96712227yeah, dude, not having a reason why from tolkien himself means people had different explanations fpr their derivative setting. going "well technically" doesn't undo the trend.
>>96712324>i did, thank you. and i learned this is a touchy subject for anons apparently.I'm just used to people trying to rile everyone up so it was a bit of a toss up on if you were just trying to be a shitter or having a genuine question. Again that's my bad anon, but glad you at least got the answer!
>HoH points dropThey are criminally cheap.
>>96712324My point wasn't that it isn't a trend, my point was that most writers are hacks and either don't represent female dwarfs at all, or have some stupid hand waving reason for why they aren't present in the story. The existance of a female dwarf is far less jarring to non-autistic people than the much more clear deviation from standard dwarf tropes like using magic, or not being obssesive grudge bearers.
>>96712359I'm autistic and femdwarfs never bothered me.
>>96712161Part of thing of chorfs is that they do basically everything that traditional warhammer dwarfs don't (work with greenskins, use magic, innovate freely, disrespect ancestors)
>>96712200Pics? I was thinking of doing the same with sigvald
>>96712386Here ya go! Still thinkin about that fuckin ironclad...
>>96712359>less jarring than using magicnot only do dwarves have magic runes and get powers from anscestors, chorfs, which i'm assuming have been around longer than you have, specifically fuck with magic and demons. "hack writing" has been associated with AoS, btw. >>96712379yes, but it'd never make sense to send baby makers out to fight if they're as rare as regular dwarves.
>>96712435> i walked into this thread full of this thing that doesn't conform to all my favorite tropes and now I'm fuming, how could this have happenedgo get your weighted blanket
>>96712435>it'd never make sense to send baby makers out to fight if they're as rare as regular dwarves.They're not that fucking rare, especially in a universe 8x the size of the old world
>>96712449>looking at box to buy>notice beardless dwarves>gently placed ('dropped') back on the shelf>post on /aosg/ for your answerssorry i didn't make entire blog post out of it, i didn't think it would be necessary.>>96712458anon, if you kept up with the conversation before responding, you'd see people have let me know that AoS dwarves are fundamentally different than Fantasy in terms of females.
>>96712490>>notice beardless dwarves>>gently placed ('dropped') back on the shelfgenuine sperg behavior
i need need need more things of Warhammer Quest Darkwater. I cant wat for next week.
>>96712544I gotta wait until next fucking week? Fuck man that's like ages away
>>96712549Not literal, bro. Im fine, just very hyped.
>>96712531>throws hissyfit online because potential player saw las creaturas >>96712014 and thought "not chorfy enough">thinks he's isn't a spergbeards are always a big deal to dwarves, anon.
>>96712626The kit comes with enough bearded heads to put on all of the models genius>inb4 here's why it's okay to be an uninformed consumer
>>96712684brag to all your friends, irl, anon: my flgs has a lot of aos players and one old world player. i was browsing my options and guess how i AM becoming "informed", ding dong
someone post the lawful kharibdyss memes
>>96712755>>96712755>>96712755
>>96712721back to LOTR or whatever grognard infest hole you crawled out of
>>96712776stay salty.or, ascend through all 5 of the genders like Zenius the Dirge did.whatever makes you happy
>>96712393Dam, big lady sexoooo
