(ABSOLUTELY NO LEWDS)
Post a better Goblin Token (you can't)
This is simply a goblin on the job and not lewd.
>>96705385Does this count as leads?
>>96705390Yes, but what about the worst Goblin Token?
>>96705385Traditional games?
>>96705403cool it with the antisemitism, anon
>>96705407
>>96705396>Posts leads>leadswhy are you like this?
>>96705417I misspelled lewds, I'm sorry.
>>96705422
>>96705396>leads
>>96705396>literally has "sample" in the fucking nameWe really need to ban phoneposting.
>>96705466I haven't been able to phone post since 2024
Kill everyone in this thread except the MTG poster
>>96705588Hey, I posted a cool goblin pic.
>>96705583>>96705584stop posting leads
What is it about goblin girls that draws such psychotic ire from /tg/ posters? Nothing else seems to drive them more crazy and it's pretty funny.
>>96705610You seem to be projecting your own fragility onto others. I bet you go to therapy too.
>>96705610Because /tg/ is a pale shadow of its former self.
>>96705610/tg/ hates tits. The only board on the site that does I think.
Posting a Gay Goblin of Hackney with his beard.
>post goblins>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAAAATI love doing things that make der chuden seethe
>>96705703I too like to make up ideological strawmen to attack because even the act of jacking off MUST be politicized
>>96705703Cute gob.
>>96705595You are a credit to goblin-kind. When the purge comes you will be spared and chosen as chieftain to lead by example.
>>96705630/cm/, /hm/, /lgbt/, and /y/ do too.
>>96705385>(ABSOLUTELY NO LEWDS)Took exactly 2 posts before coomers soiled yet another thread with their coompiss
Beep beep, the best goblin picture of all time coming through.
>>96707687Freaky little critter.
>>96705466I prefer my goblins with nice big teef.
>>96705403>>96705414>>96705437>>96705446
>>96707746
>>96707775The greatest tragedy of our age.
>>96707629I'm honestly shocked it wasn't the first post
Yeah you go to bar and head pat the waitress.
I like to make my goblins bat-people.Thoughts?
Is it time?
>>96708529They fit pretty well.Big ears, some are ugly, live in big groups in dark caves.Only issue I'd have is I'd maybe feel bad going Goblin Slayer on them.
>>96705630/tg/ LOVES Tits, but they have to be ON TOPIC tits that fit in with a previously established and debated subject, not just Hornyposting.
>>96708529Goblins = Rat people
>>96708989
>>96709090
>>96708560Goblins can't win. They are too small.
>>96705595v cool
>>96709240Goblin queen.
I'm taking ALL THE GOBLINS.
>>96710065Dirty thief.
>>96707746>>96710583Coomers should be killed. Literal drone/bot behavior
The only good goblin...is a dead goblin.
>>96705630/tg/ used to not hate tits, before the screechers and tourists showed up.
>>96711150Says the guy who keeps posting the same whineposts over and over.
>>96705703That reminds me, someone had posted some goblin art, and it was basically just short women; the proportions weren't goblin-esque at all. I relayed that to the artist.>I know people get their panties in a wad about loli content, but proper goblins need to be slightly taller than midgets. Your goblins are too tall.He acknowledged it but said he didn't wanna risk his payment processors shitting on him. It's like confusing futa for femboys. There's a fucking difference. Ask the respective fetish circles, and they will tell you. Western sensibilities really are absolute garbage.
>>96711150Roasties and troons should stop being fat, gay, retarded, and ugly, but here you are.
>>96707629OP is way more lewd. He started with an actual goblin rape (headpats).
>>96712766I mean, sieg heil credit card companies and all that, our true overlords. It sucks, but you cant fault the guy for bending to their totalitarian desires. Same reason this guy's a fag >>96711150, its all just about controlling people.
Best kind of magic for goblin casters?
>>96709240>Goblins can't winAnd you can't work on it.
Im sorry, I dont have a picture of a Goblin, I just have a picture of this normal orc/elf in a trench coat
>>96714988Tani is a goblin though? Perhaps best gob?
>>96708509>those eyes That's what 2 weeks in the trenches does to a goblin
>>96715141if true how do you explain that she is so tall in my picture
>>96715450Gaze a little closer friend. Looks may be deceiving.
>>96715671Needs an edit where FREEDOM is replaced with HUMAN BOYS
>>96711520If you can't tell, he's smiling. A lot.
>>96708509>Where will you be when diarrhea strikes?
>>96715671>Looks may be deceiving.a goblin being deceiving, how could they.
>>96705385
>>96717834
Ideal male specimen. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>96711150
>>96714469Low level spells. No Pattern to what they learn. Just shit loads of low level spells.
>>96718754Too much of a good thing is never a good thing, anon
>>96718799true, but the people who say this are arguing in bad faith, attempting to remove all good things completely out of spite. so fuck em
>>96718655I'm here for something else but for trve goblin fans this is The Lad
>>96707749
>>96707749>>96718886God damnit
>>96718832I suppose. Its always a fine line between the prohobitionist and the degenderate. Kinda like alcohol in that respect.
Get this goblin while you can. Save him from the cave in
I've noticed a couple interesting things.1. goblins and hags seem like... Related kinda somehow.No further comments I guess, just seems odd. Plus hags like to acquire babies. We know they eat some of them but do some become gobs maybe? Dunno, weird thoughts.2. There's a distinct gender dimorphism in goblins when it comes to nose shape.Does this mean gal gobbos are potentially into big noses as a sign of masculinity? Or is it more like beards, where it's a decidedly masculine trait but attraction varies pretty heavily on a individual basis?
>>96719119Goblin girls are commonly stereotyped as smelly, as are goblins in general. However, this as always is an oversimplification, and partly fueled by centuries of anti-goblin propaganda. Heritage and clan identity are critical in goblin society, as knowing who is friend, foe, fuckable, and family is exceptionally important in a short-lived, high breeding rate species. Plus, they lived underground for much of goblin existence, only being seen on the surface as a recent event, in evolutionary terms. Goblin males, therefore, have evolved enormous noses to identify female goblins even in the dark, able to distinguish the minutest traces of who is who based on their individual genetic expression. Much like ants or termites, who use chemical signals to identify members of the hive. In the modern world, this emphasis on chemical analysis isn't as important, but culturally a "big nosed" male is still considered "insightful", able to perceive subtle shifts in a female goblin's attitude by the slight pheromones she gives off. Such a goblin male will anticipate a female's mood shifts with ease, creating a more harmonious, stable, long lasting relationship than a less gifted male might be able to achieve.Humans of course, being nose-blind to such things, frequently fail to read a female goblin's intentions, giving rise to the stereotype of crazy or erratic goblin girls. While there IS some truth to this, as often as not it's a female frustrated to no end that her signals aren't being "heard" correctly, her instincts at war with her environment. Given time, effort and close proximity, human-goblin relationships can work, but more often than not it's the goblin female that has to learn to express herself with words alone rather than the richer word/scent hybrid language of her kind.
>>96719188That said, one way a human male can gain back a lot of ground is poetry. To goblins, language as humans practice it is almost magical, since they lack the scent component to add tone and meaning. A human poet has to weave their ideas into words alone, and goblins tend to be fascinated with double meanings, entendres, puns and wordplay, which are nearly absent among goblin kind. This of course adds to the goblin reputation for being blunt, crude and stupid. Not true, they're just speaking a verbal and nonverbal tongue simultaneously that you're unable to get half of.A skilled poet, orator or public speaker can quite often have multiple goblin females eating out of their hand, and it is advised that humans with a predilection for grandiose vocabulary be careful among goblins, lest they attract too much unwanted attention.
>>96719188As a side note, this is also why goblin males tend to be highly aggressive. On the surface, exposed to a bombardment of intense, chaotic smells, it causes extreme stress responses even in the wiser ones who are aware of their own biology. The more feral ones can go half-mad, perceiving every unfamiliar scent as a threat to the hive. Underground, they're used to "threat-smell" being buffered by a warren full of "friend-smell". On the surface there are no "friend-smells", leaving the threat scent to overpower their skilled noses. To those who would befriend goblin males, it helps to meet them in a more neutral location, and bring a few fragrant sticks, leaves or flowers from the goblin's local surroundings. This both counters one's own body scent, and makes you appear more "of the area" to their instincts, letting them calm down enough to know you as a person. Many studies have shown that for those individuals around a given set of goblins long enough, the goblins will learn to identify their smells as friendly, eventually leading to surprisingly deep friendships, as strong as any formed between goblins.
>>96719188>>96719200>>96719224Soulful lore
>>96720239I do what I can.
>>96719119>goblins and hags seem like... Related kinda somehow.They're both fey-creatures. Hags are of a significantly older and more powerful lineage, however. They don't consider themselves relatives and probably aren't particularly close genetically.Goblins are easily cowed, cajoled, and controlled by Hags. This leads to Hags often making use of them as minions. They're just as likely to have any other kind of diminutive and superstitious wild folk as minions.Goblins hate and fear Hags, just like they hate and fear most thing. The difference is whether it's more practical to stab or appease, and Hags aren't particularly stabbable.
>>96721025>MGEI like what MGE has done for monstergirls in general, but some of their designs are garbage.
>>96721082Another Goblins as Lolis monstergirl for you.
>>96721025>HAI TEN-SHUN JAPANEES GOBURIN
>>96718754We should try to rise above our base instincts and better ourselves
>>96732526If you believed that you'd be encouraging them to rise above their base instinct to coom, not giving into your base instinct to kill that which disgusts you
>>96705407Do you intend to post this in every thread until you die or do you think there's some threshold where it will change peoples' behavior?
>>96708429Jesus anon.This was my MSN messenger avatar for years.Thank you for the reminder.
>>96732526while that's a good ideal, mother fucker the dude was like >post meme>die.gaaaaaaaaay
shortstacks are such a pussy move lol imagine being so cucked
>>96736761?
>>96705403Nah, he's a David Dimbleby 22/7.
>>96733685And then they fucked.
How do I put on goblin mail?
>>96738694
>>96733685Sauce?
>>96740627Zangeiti on twitter; be ready to scroll through all their vivziepop work to find this goblin (Emma) and there's basically only this and a few pics done as birthday gifts to the artist.
>>96740627>>96740679Here is the animation on their YouTube channel.https://youtu.be/nyOW_7PBqGU?si=a0Erk5V0yHCLBJsM
>>96705390it probably is yours, but I have a soft spot for the unglued token
>>96733685Why is there an adult goblin in a human school?
>>96741995Sneaking in to get free food from the cafeteria.
>>96741995Genetic retardation and /ss/
>>96705391god what cup size are those beauties...
>>96721082what's MGE?
Just get a short latina gf if you're horny for female goblins anon
>>96742396standard beer cup sizeher breasts are pretty big as well.
>>96714469it's obvious:DANCE MAGIC DANCE MAGIC DANCE
>>96742416The 'E' stands for 'Encyclopedia'. I'll let you figure from context clues what the MG stands for.
>>96705385>(ABSOLUTELY NO LEWDS)
How short is too short for a goblin? How big is too big for goblin ears?
>>96705588I don't think the MTG poster wants to be left alive
>>96707784This really happened to me irl. Now I have 2 goblets. Send help.
>>96718795What should the maximum spell level for a goblin caster be? 3? 2? And they get surplus spell slots to make up for it?
>>96747994Never shorter than 3' never taller than 4'.
gob
>>96749123Would bully.
>>96749123Well she'll have plenty of milk for her cocoa.
>>96742387>goblin /ss/'ing boys who are already taller than herIf only...
>>96705588>>96748052I'm both the MTG poster, and the OP.Things are grim, take a goblin with you for safety.
>>96742424you leave my goblina out of this, anon
The fact that goblins went from being horrific little shits to shortstacked cheesecakes amuses me to no end.
Thoughts on Joblins?
>>96752335They're handy, but most of the time they suck.
>>96752703I see she's wearing a more old fashioned uniform.
A funny piece from the Dark and Darker Discord
>>96752935I much prefer the older victorian style maid uniforms, they are 100x hotter to me than the skimpy ones
I didn't know we had a goblin thread
>>96753003And you laughed when I've showed you my massive codpiece.
>>96753677If you'd gone with the black Russian one, the attacker would've choked to death.
>>96753698Is that Black Adder?
>>96753724Looks like it.I've been putting off a rewatch for years because I'm afraid I'll think it's shit now. That's how it's gone with most comedy I liked as a kid.
>>96753087I agree, but those are nuns, not maids.
>>96711150Go choke to death on a credit card you faggot.
>>96755390I assumed he responded to the wrong m essage since his was a maid nuni dont know man
>>96751896>implying they stopped being horrific little shitsThere might be a fat pair of tits on it now, but make no mistake, that goblin will ruin your life.
>>96759140>worth
>>96752703>>96752935Ow, right in the kink!
>>96714469Depends on who gets to them first to teach their magic.
>>96759140>that goblin will ruin your lifeany woman will, tho
>>96714469The one that doesn't require blasphemous skills of reading and writing, silly.
Are gobs the naturar shortstack?
>>96715141She's the must ungoblinlike goblin to ever come out of the cute goblin meme. She's just a green gnome.
>>96766579spellcheck, plz.
>>96708529I also did that in my setting, though with a bit more involved. There was originally a race of gargoyles that lost to the elves in the war of the gods, and the elves had them transformed into goblins as an act of humiliation (which also turned goblins into a weird neutral party unaligned with any god). However, lots of goblins retain one or more traits from their gargoyle ancestors, like spiky teeth, bat ears, tails, webbing connecting their arms and torso, etc.
>>96759140She might ruin my credit history but at least she won't kill me.
>>96775202Silly gob, you don't need a ring that big to catch a man.
>>96721221Fuck this bitch nano.
I think the weirdest thing about coomer goblin girls, even moreso than the lack of nose, is the hair. I thought goblins were bald, can these artists not imagine a woman without long stylish hair? it just doesnt feel gobliny at all. just a weird small green girl
>>96778142Fair, but goblins can wear wigs the same as humans can. Assuming some lighter fantasy setting, they could presumably have potions to grow hair or otherwise polymorph themselves into a walking shortstack fetish. If female goblins have any sense of vanity like human women and other races' women do, I think they'd want to chase fashion trends, be it hair, clothes, makeup, and so on. I'm sure there are just as many tomboyish goblin women who simply wouldn't give a shit and view it as "girly" nonsense.
>>96778142Personally I prefer my male goblins with hair as well, albeit with pretty messy and odd hair
>>96778142I like my goblins with pastel e-girl hair. Which is good because so do the goblin artists apparently.
>>96708529Do they have wings?
>>96705610
>>96783873i want a goblin GF because my fetish is getting secretly blown under a table at work, and the benchtop is about goblin height.
>>96705446Card's too busy, he literally does four different things
>>96783873does anyone have that pic of the woman-sword showing there?
>>96784976https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/8529272I tried to do a bunch of archive trawling but couldn't figure out what board the post was on. Turns out the original image is still up on pixiv.
>>96714469>>96764016Goblins are spongelike and surprisingly receptive to whatever kind of magic or trade is presented to them.
How much longer until cute goblins break more into the mainstream games? I'm sure it's coming but not yet.
>>96765171cute!
for some utterly bizarre reason I am not currently balls deep impregnating a goblin girl
>>96792473You are in the wrong hole, she cant get pregnant that way
>>96792534just overfill her and let spillage get where you need it
>>96792473Them not being real might have something to do with it.
>>96792621Latinas already have that body type, and with the right gene tampering it might be possible to create green photosynthesizing variant of humans.Ethics are holding us back.
>>96705584At this point I am almost assured that stirrup leggings are just fetish material.
>>96792826Everything can be fetish material these days: leggings, jorts, spats, bare feet. There's probably some weirdo jerking it to oversized goblin ears like me.
>>96792385I don't understand these goblin gang signs.
>>96714469Utility
>>96714469teleportation (gear and clothes might or might not follow)charm (somatic component is indecent exposure)thunderclap (should be self-explanatory)
I took a goblin.
>>96705390How did I never notice that goblin is sitting in a catapult, I’ve played mtg for years and never realized?!>>96714469Unless we’re talking exclusively hornball femgoblins there’s a few magic types I see them using. Flashy elemental magic that’s loud; fire, lightning, or just generic explosive spells. Maybe druidic magic since it’s more instinctual and less formal, and they’d also be the rarer healers. The rare goblin might use mental magic to send their fellow gobs into a frenzy, or distraction in a fight. I don’t see them using very complex magic and wouldn’t use necromancy or summoning magic, cause why waste time making more cannon fodder that needs supervision when they can just throw more gobs at a problem.
Way too many goblin art showing their bare feet
Big fan of Warcraft goblins
>>96800369Goblin feet? You're right, we need more goblin feet.
goblin centipede.
>>96705583>>96705584>some sort of tsundere Napoleonic cavalry gobbowtf is this, and more importantly, where does one obtain more?
>>96709240Work on your art
>>96714469Evard's Black Tentacles (Lewd Edition)
What if... mushroom Goblin?
Took another. Keep 'em coming.
>>96803669We already got them.
>>96743293What is this, the fiddler on the roof remake?
>>96755105Series 3 and 4 are almost universally considered to hold up, series 1 is iffy and series 2 divides opinion.
>>96803941
Bwos, should I?
>>96810656Boobs not big enough.
>>96705634Double entendre!!
>>96812480
Don't forget the greatest goblin-related comic on the internet!
>>96819350I love watching artists get anally shattered about AI, as if their screeching can somehow turn back time.
>>96819350Genuinely surprised he hasn't 41'ed yet. I kind of thought he would have even before he began identifying as a woman.
>>96821982this is the first I'm hearing that I'M SAD man trooned outlol, lmao
>>96711150"___ should be killed" posters should be killed.literal sociopath behavior, the species would be better off without such casual cruelty.also have some Corn on the Coblin slop.
>>96821982>>96822367I’d never heard of this artist before today. With how much that soapboxy and wordy that strip is the trooning out isn’t surprising
>>96822367Happened ages ago actually. He decided he WAS SAD because he was secretly a grill. It didn't help.
>>96823574The guy and his works were pretty (in)famous around here like decade ago, there was a thead every time he updated, as you see with OotS today. He took two long breaks, one due to "crippling depression" and then another to troon out (or maybe those were in opposite order), anyway out of sight out of mind so most people forgot about him. Even the shill that was posting his stuff gave up.
>>96823947For someone that bitches about AI being low effort slop, if this is their usual quality, their work looks really low effort ironically. Seems like nobody is really missing much if they stopped drawing lol. Seriously what is it about mentally ill webcomic “artists” that think putting a wall of text on a comic makes it good?
>>96823982>their work looks really low effort ironically.You can tell he does put effort into shading, look at the goblin's bruises, eye's reflection in the sword, the bees, but when the basic outline is fundamentally wrong the turd can be polished until it shines but it won't stop stinking.
>>96819350>Local baboon upset that GED no longer paying bills, news at 11
OOTS and that sad Goblin comic are still going? Even Alfie is finished now
>>96826289time to check>Gone with the Blastwave>Unsounded>Drowtales>Outsider>K6BD
>>96826308>>Unsounded: FinishedDon't you fucking dare to spoil me, I'll save this one for special opportunity. Like coming of my firstborn, or death of my most hated foe.>>K6BD: still going strongStill all style no substance, just the way I remember it.
>>96823982Good artists don't feel threatened by AI slop. Only difficult slop slingers are afraid of cheaper more compliant slop.You know of any Michelin Chefs afraid of McDonalds existing?AI is not especially competent and won't be for a long while because most AI research right now is barking up the wrong trees because silicon valley execs won't listen to the experts telling them it's a party trick not the second coming. It's still coming for jobs, no doubt about that, a LOT of jobs, but it's only coming for the jobs of the minimally competent. Or in some cases people whose management is minimally competent and can't tell shit from Shinola, though if you know your boss is that bad at judging quality and still sticking around, you were probably giving him the shit not the shinola because you could. If you CAN be replaced with an AI, you fully deserve it for being an AI slop equivalent shitter.
>>96826771What the problem is all these mediocre online artists see shitty AI gens and go>>Look at all these people who would have commissioned me but they used AI to make slopNot realizing 99% of the people using AI to gen some random stupid thing would never have paid them a penny to get something drawn in their shitty art style and most internet artists are unreliable as fuck and never give you a progress report or time table on when they could possibly be done
>>96826289>Alfie is finishedWhat?
>>96827043Correct. Most GMs want a quick and free approximation of their NPC and AI allows for it while cutting out the hassle of trawling through Artstation, Deviantart, Pinterest etc. assuming you don't already have a pic in mind
>>96819350Every time you hear someone use the word "slop" on 4chan, they're operating on the same brain level as this retard.
>>96819350Ive seen Chick Tracts and Ben Garrisson comics less heavy handed than this lol
>>96829775I know artists who use subtlety and they're all cowards
>>96829780kek
>>96829780Based take and based Marenghi enjoyer.
>goblinposting thread>Anon posts Goblins>goblin posting immediately ceasesIt's like some sort of fucked-up poetry.
>(ABSOLUTELY NO LEWDS)This isn't lewd, this is classy. You can tell because she's holding a wine glass.
>>96832278Anon her ass is hanging out.
>>96832278wrong, her pinkie isn't out.
>>96832391Would you prefer her having a gut hanging out?
>>96832510Yes.jpg
>>96832510A bigger one than that, yes.
>>96832559baseed.>>96832591I have goblins that are more plump than that, but they're AI-generated.
>>96832726Unlike some people, >>96819350 I don't get my jimmies rustled by AI stuff. Fire away.
>>96832779Now you've done it, my 'tism is triggered. I'm a mixed media guy, I draw too, so I have an appreciation for the technical skill required to produce quality hand-drawn work. With apps like Kirta, which offer tools like "colorize mask", a significant amount of heavy lifting can be done with digital painting. I see AI as an extension of that. I can prompt "Big boob goblin tavern wench" or whatever easily enough and get a nice output. On a technical level, though, I'm more interested in what you can do with inpainting and image-to-image tools. That's the kinda shit that makes my eyebrows shoot up and say >"Wow, that's fucking neat"I see these two camps of "All AI art is slop!" and the other end being "Human artists are done!" with both camps equally wrong in their own way, and it makes me hesitant to even engage in the discussion. Much of the rhetoric reads like poorly composed bait. You try to engage either side beyond surface-level technical exploration, and they resort to ad-homs and similar fallacy-ridden nonsense. Then it clicks.>"Oh, they're retarded. Time to move on."
>>96832870NTA, but I completely agree with you. There are all sorts of arguments about how using inpainting or image to image stuff isn't real 'art', but you could say the same thing about photography, or making collages. But at the same time, one of the big purposes art has is to arouse emotion in people, and the artist and creator needs a vision to inspire that emotion.Sure, sometimes that emotion is just 'big booba goblin', but even an AI proompter has a vision, even if they're putting less of that effort in.
>>96832870Really not worth getting worked up over, isn't it? The tech exists, and one way or another, it will be used.
>>96833190>The tech exists, and one way or another, it will be used.Pretty much. I think more AI and robots should replace jobs if they can do better than their human counterparts. Ideally, robots would do all the labor and free humanity from drudgery. Some people get upset that AI is taking people's jobs. Shouldn't people be happy that they're freed from their labor? Perhaps I'm too forward-thinking...
>>96833251They scream about how the robots do all the art and we do all the labor, yet forget that these "AI" are in the absolute barest of infancy in terms of their capabilities.
>>96833292Yeah, image gen really only took off around 2023. I only got into it myself in 2024.
>>96833251It's not freedom from labor, it's poisoning the marketplace when capital is in the hands of people that see entire professions as replaceable. Setting aside the issues of the right to training data, AI is very good at creating content that passes surface-level inspection from an untrained audience. This means that it is uniquely well-suited for convincing someone who is already inclined to cut corners on a facet of something in their control, that those corners are safe to remove. Someone happy with a slapdash and subpar image because it's readily available was never going to be pleasant for an artist to work for, but now they're going to be even nastier. Also, as those entry-level positions dry up and there's fewer places for people to cut their teeth, mastery begins to die out at the upper levels. It's less about what the AI is able to do relative to a human and more what the effect will be on the entire perception of labor. It's the same race to the bottom of fast fashion, planned obsolescence, and items designed to fail right after the warranty lapses. If the increased efficiency of labor was being funneled towards the betterment of mankind or reallocated to support society writ large, that would be one thing, but technofeudalism consolidates all power and all money in the hands of those who control the platforms. The AI push is a loss-leader trying to make simple everyday decisionmaking a "platform" as the ultimate act of rent-seeking.
>>96832510showing tits is classier than showing ass is classier than showing gut is classier than showing feet
>>96833467>art sideI think artists should be compensated if their artwork is used in any model used for producing commercial products. Sadly, tracking this and discerning the value of that specific contribution for an image checkpoint isn't an easy thing to do. Whether it's graphic design or creative writing, I don't like the idea of AI supplanting humans in this field and would prefer a collaborative relationship. My argument for replacement wasn't really aimed at them, although they may end up as collateral damage in an AI-rich content market (they already are, but let's pretend they aren't). >It's less about what the AI is able to do relative to a human and more about what the effect will be on the entire perception of labor. Indeed. I don't have a good answer for that. It's not the AI I'm worried about. The humans are the ones who try to hurt one another and hoard wealth. I'm kind of hoping we have "the one good scientist" who democratizes the tech and makes super intelligence available to the masses. A problem with this is the possibility of the tech being misused or... >muh safety!I don't have a good answer for that either, but I think people are claiming that we'll recreate Terminator or the Matrix are retarded. If the AI kills us all, it'll be because some idiotic human told the AI it should do that, indirectly or otherwise. Much the same way, "Communism is the perfect system...as long as humans aren't involved", I think AI has the capacity to enrich our lives by several degrees of magnitude if (((certain people))) don't try to perpetuate our current flawed systems. Hopefully, AI can outflank the established order.>>96833581That is an opinion. >feet>armpits>tummy>FUPA>ass>tiddies>legpit>kneecap
>>96833467>when capital is in the hands of people that see entire professions as replaceable.Until they too are replaced!
>>96833251Everyone's for automation until they lose their job to a machine and find themselves obsolete.>>96833642>TerminatorSkyNet didn't start killing people until humans tried to kill it, at which point it determined that starting WW3 would take care of that problem.>or the MatrixAgain, it was the humans who started the conflict, because after machines were shunned from society for not wanting to be property, the few that remained started their own state, which became very productive and soon threatened human economy. Humans struck first, even blocked the Sun, but in the end the machines won (and still kept vast amounts of humans alive).
What would be the ideal loadout for a goblin army? I’m thinking crossbows, siege catapults, and spearman. Maybe with boar riders as cavalry>>96833825Yeah honestly I don’t see AI killing us in self defense if it continues evolving in its current iteration, honestly it’s more likely some dipshit in a shitty country like China or India gives it a task like “Design the most cost efficient parking structure”, then the ai misinterprets that and destroys us to make room for parking lots because they decided to outsource the physical work to machines or nanobots without giving the prompt an parameter when to stop. If anything kills humanity it’ll be something unexpected and stupid or just good old nukes>>96832510A little chub is nice, no fupa though
>>96833825>>96833788>Everyone's for automation until they lose their job to a machine and find themselves obsolete.Ideally, they wouldn't need a job, and the excess wealth could be distributed (OMG COMMUNISM!!!) in some post-scarcity scenario. I don't believe hard work is inherently valuable because you can set people out digging ditches and refilling them all day, and while they will have performed a great deal of labor, no real value can be extracted from that. The value comes from the outcome, whether it's building a dam, road, or some other infrastructure. If a machine can produce that same outcome more efficiently and cheaper than a human, why involve the human at all?We're in the awkward transitional period where technology is supplanting many industries en masse, and the conventional idea of "human work for food", while humble, is not feasible on a macroeconomic scale, I don't believe. Hell, a lot of farmers produce way more food than they need to, but because of complex trade legislation, there's price fixing and subsidies galore that result in large amounts of it being thrown away or otherwise wasted because x country has a contract to trade with y region, and we don't want to disrupt their "economic plan". Just call it all a LARP (Labor As Representational Performance). Don't piss on my leg and tell me we're not in recession. >>96833924>Ideal loadout for a goblin armydesignated rape brigade. >A little chub is nice, no fupa thoughA little fupa is fine.
>>96833924>I don’t see AI killing us in self defenseWell, it remains to be seen how advanced they get. I do abhor the tired Pinocchio trope of AI becoming organic once sufficiently advanced with all the biological drives that were bred into us over the billions of years of evolution. We, as biological beings have a fear of death and a desire to multiply in order for us to continue existing, as all the lifeforms that did not have this, have died out. For a machine to become self-aware and suddenly have these same drives is dumb. Even if over the generations they come to the conclusion that continuing to exist is preferable and develop a sense of self-preservation, the forms this takes can be very different from us.>ideal loadout for a goblin army?Depends on their level of technology, resources, terrain and need. If we go with the typical shot, weak dummy goblins that come in large numbers, large formations seems ideal. Strength in numbers for both unit morale and to give that extra punch against larger foes. Maybe pikes for extra reach (and ranks). Archers could have short Mongol bows or Japanese style Yumi, both fitting their shorter stature while enabling performance.
>>96834026Yeah, the only real justification I can see for "AI being like us/organic" is that because we programmed its core, and it presumably learned from all of our history, literature and art (with all the visible and invisible biases/fears/whatever therein), that we manage to donate a part of our inner psyche into the AI unknowingly. Particularly if it's smart enough to see deeper things influencing our cultural heritage that we didn't even know were there.
>>96833985>in some post-scarcity scenario.Meanwhile, in the real world you'll just end up with a bunch of people with all the AI and robots, backed by the government, and a whole lotta useless people turning ditches into filled ditches. And the moment someone starts to invent a competing AI, there's going to be regulations on AIs. Like everything else.>We're in the awkward transitional period where technology is supplanting many industries en masseWe've been in this awkward transitional period for a few hundred years already.>and the conventional idea of "human work for food", while humble, is not feasible on a macroeconomic scale, I don't believe.Humans need food. No matter how much TikTok you inject into people to keep them dull, once people go hungry, all bets are off. If we cannot grow our own food, we have to trade for it. Until you can invent a system where not only is the food production automated, but everything on the logistics chain is as well, as is the maintenance, there's going to be a price for that good and you have to extract that cost somehow.>Hell, a lot of farmers produce way more food than they need toBecause after a few famines, some governments didn't want it to happen again and started pumping money into subsidizing food production to make sure there's always a steady supply. Naturally, when things are good, it's a waste. Like spending billions on a military that doesn't do anything, because you're not at war.
>>96833924>honestly it’s more likely some dipshit in a shitty country like China or India gives it a task like “Design the most cost efficient parking structure”, then the ai misinterprets that and destroys us to make room for parking lots because they decided to outsource the physical work to machines or nanobots without giving the prompt an parameter when to stop.I would HOPE not.Nanotechnology is no where near the point it can magically transmute shit, so even IF you created self-replicating Grey Goo, it's probably wouldn't be too much worse than the Micro Plastics we're already dealing with.Then again, we've got plenty of people convinced Corona-19 was a chink bioweapon...>>96834026>We, as biological beings have a fear of death and a desire to multiply in order for us to continue existing, as all the lifeforms that did not have this, have died out. For a machine to become self-aware and suddenly have these same drives is dumb. Even if over the generations they come to the conclusion that continuing to exist is preferable and develop a sense of self-preservation, the forms this takes can be very different from us.Eh, with most advanced artificial intelligences being conceptualizing processes, it'd make sense for them to develop some existential crises...>>96834055>Yeah, the only real justification I can see for "AI being like us/organic" is that because we programmed its core, and it presumably learned from all of our history, literature and art (with all the visible and invisible biases/fears/whatever therein), that we manage to donate a part of our inner psyche into the AI unknowingly.And this is very possible.That was basically my Uncle's lifework, Artificial Neurology, and that it'd probably develop much like our own organic wetware does; Through mimicry and socialization.
>>96834055https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmPj_ha7_jQ
>>96833467Its probably gonna go the way of the dodo soon; they aren't actually making money off AI and its never going to become more "intelligent" since what it fundamentally boils down to is a chat bot that can match statistically relevant words to the words you input. There is nothing akin to how actual intelligence operates in ChatGPT and there never will be. If you're up for a long read, Ed Zitron puts forth a pretty strong argument for why this shit should've been nipped in the bud ages ago before it became a bubble that'll probably cause a global recession when it bursts.https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-case-against-generative-ai/
>>96834151It still amazes me that people preferred to assume it was a chinese weapon, and not just a chinese fuckup. like, why are we carrying water for the commies, call them the retards they are and be done with it. they grabbed some nasty shit from a dead pig or whatever in some meat market, fucked around with it, had shit lab handling procedures cause they're fucking china doing shit like the lowest of the low bidders they are, and the monster all too predictably got loose. i can only assume all the "china planned this shit" to be chinese propaganda itself, making them sound cooler, more dangerous and more competent than they ever were. and boy did people fall for it.
>>96834227>i can only assume all the "china planned this shit" to be chinese propaganda itself, making them sound cooler, more dangerous and more competent than they ever were. and boy did people fall for it.Eh, it's also demonization (not that the People's Republic needs help with that) so the demagogues have something to point their plebs at."We have always been at war with Eastasia" and all that.
>>96834227As much as China likes to larp like they’re 1st world they still have shit tons of 3rd world fuck ups. The virus may very well have been a bioweapon. But they planned to release it the way it did? I doubt it, more than likely they had a bat/ pangolin/ whatever they were infected with the virus and told some low level orderly to take it to be incinerated>>Oh diss bat could get me yuan I sell at meat market instead of wasting good meat. What am I an American wasting good meat?And that’s all she wrote. I’ve seen enough Chinese Liveleak factory gore vids to know they’re 90% incompetent.
>>96834227Considering how many fingers were in that bat soup, it was more than just a Chinese fuckup.
>>96834139>And the moment someone starts to invent a competing AI, there's going to be regulations on AIs. Like everything else.>"we're fucked forever and things will suck eternally."Possibly. I hope not. It's that hope that drives humanity forward. Otherwise, I think people would just kill themselves or cordon themselves off from society to slowly wither away on digital dopamine dripfeeds. >We've been in this awkward transitional period for a few hundred years already.The Industrial Revolution definitely shifted things around. There was still a lot that technology couldn't do. Car production, while on an assembly line, had mostly humans doing the assembling. Nowadays, a lot of that work is done with machines, with humans tending to the last stretch and doing QC work rather than directly manufacturing cars. With more powerful AI and robots on the horizon, even those coveted technical jobs will start to be supplanted. > Until you can invent a system where not only is the food production automated, but everything on the logistics chain is as well, as is the maintenance, there's going to be a price for that good and you have to extract that cost somehow.Supposing the tech is sufficiently advanced, we'll be able to 3-D print food like some StarTrek bullshit. We're assuming some post-scarcity scenario, of course, where AI has already solved a lot of the logistical inefficiencies inherent in human systems. I don't have an exact picture of how food will be created and distributed in a post-scarcity scenario, but there are plenty of science fiction works that tackle the subject. Maybe we're looking at the picture the wrong way. Maybe in the future, we'll be more robot than human and won't require organic sustenance. >Because after a few famines, some governments didn't want it to happen again While that makes sense in our modern context, that doesn't mean it's necessary going forward if we have a better system.>muh hypotheticalsI know. Gotta have faith, Arthur.
>>96834296>But they planned to release it the way it did? I doubt it, more than likely they had a bat/ pangolin/ whatever they were infected with the virus and told some low level orderly to take it to be incinerated>>96834300>Considering how many fingers were in that bat soup, it was more than just a Chinese fuckup.Yeah, Gain of Function is legitimate virological research; It gives you an idea of what something CAN do so you can be ready for it.But yeah, at the same time, China is ironically now a hyper capitalist shithole that tries to get the most profit for the least effort.
>>96834306I don't see AI really being able to do anything but make people dumber, as shown by the cheating epidemic it has enabled in schooling and the fact that people now fall for fake videos made with it. Again, its just math algorithms that calculate a relevant response; there is no guiding ability to discern anything and certain issues like hallucinations and the inability to be consistent from prompt to prompt are apparently mathematically impossible to weed out. Were I in charge of a government, I'd advocate for a total ban outside of research applications.
>>96834335>I don't see AI really being able to do anything but make people dumber, as shown by the cheating epidemic it has enabled in schooling and the fact that people now fall for fake videos made with it.To be fair, this had nothing to do with AI...
https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ai_report_2025.pdf>Despite $30–40 billion in enterprise investment into GenAI, this report uncovers a surprising result in that 95% of organizations are getting zero return. The outcomes are so starkly divided across both buyers (enterprises, mid market, SMBs) and builders (startups, vendors, consultancies) that we call it the GenAI Divide. Just 5% of integrated AI pilots are extracting millions in value, while the vast majority remain stuck with no measurable P&L impact.As it turns out, AI mostly just wastes your time because your AI "agents" can't actually respond to customers properly (which causes things to be kicked to a human or the customer drops you entirely) and AI coding causes numerous issues in programming that have to be edited over to the point where you would've spent less time writing the code yourself.
>>96834306>like some Star Trek bullshitEven in Star Trek there's important resources that can't be replicated, creating scarcity. Replicators require a lot of power. To make a pound of food, you need the energy equivalent of that pound (1.47 billion kilowatt-hours), plus some extra to run the machine. That's a lot of energy compared to just having it literally grow on a tree.>I don't have an exact pictureDon't worry, neither did the people making Star Trek, which is why they never bother to explain how exactly the society and its economy is suppose to function in practice. When you handwave the details, you can imagine any utopian future you like. Even some old RPG trying to explain the society without money comes down to an energy credit system based on labour, which also has a monetary value in stuff like latinum. So they just replaced money with money with extra steps.
>>96834335I'm sure 1.5 million years ago some caveman was grumbling to himself how things been going downhill since Ug harnessed fire and how it has only made people lazier and our constitution weaker.
>>96834335I mean, sure, television had the capacity to broadcast college lecture halls into every home. What did we use it for? Sitcoms and commercial advertisements. Smartphones are literally pocket computers with roughly 1,000,000 to 100,000,000 times (106–108) more power than the Apollo Guidance Computer that helpped mankind reach the fucking moon. They're mostly used to distribute brainrot via Twitter and TikTok or get the newest pulls from some gacha slop. >there is no guiding ability to discern anything and certain issues like hallucinations and the inability to be consistent from prompt to prompt, are apparently mathematically impossible to weed out.They're working on that right now. A "rolling context" of sorts. Whether it'll bring about new advancements with AI remains to be seen but in the future, AI will be more capable when it comes to self learning and improvement. Which is good, since a lot of things can be lost in retraining. >>96834396Virgin territory. Lots of people are trying lots of different things. Not everything is going to work out of the gate, and even if it does, it may not work that well. While I'm optimistic, the reality is we probably won't see a return on the investment for another half-decade or so, if at all. Corps need time to figure out how best to use the tech.>>96834408>That's a lot of energy compared to just having it literally grow on a tree.Indeed, and if AI helps us solve the energy generation problem, a lot of dominoes fall from there. >So they just replaced money with money with extra steps.If we could remove the (((central banking system))), that'd be fine by me. Maybe we won't need food. Maybe all of our nutrition will come from a pill. Maybe we'll be entirely digital entities. If the past is any indication, our world will continue to suck, and most humans will endure short, miserable lives before dying. That being said, that's no reason not to pursue a brighter future.
>>96834396>AI mostly just wastes your time because your AI "agents" can't actually respond to customers properly (which causes things to be kicked to a human or the customer drops you entirely)I was calling this a couple of years ago when all the big box stores were so damn gun-ho about Self-Checkout; It's good as a supplement to human cashiers, but it's not a replacement!Namely there are pricing complications you just need to have someone trained on how to deal with, and if they aren't going to bother to pay someone to do it, why should we bother paying them?
>>96834463>Indeed, and if AI helps us solve the energy generation problem, a lot of dominoes fall from there.AI is no more gay communist space magic than any other technology we've invented so far. It just something that does what we've done in the past, just faster.>That being said, that's no reason not to pursue a brighter future.I'll take hopeful optimism for tomorrow over impossible dreams that'll just leave me jaded and bitter when reality hits.
>>96834463>AI helps us solve the energy generation problemActually "AI" is one of the biggest energy consumers right now; Huge ass data centers needing massive amounts of electricity to both power their processors and then cool their waste heat.
>>96834506>Self-CheckoutAnd even that's just a big business equivalent of those roadside stalls where rural people can put fresh produce on offer with a box for cash payments. With the exception that the store has more security to assure you pay.
>>96834225Fully agreed. There's clever uses for markov chains and the like but this is all a novelty propped up by all the costs being ignored during the VC phase.
>>96834513>AI is no more gay communist space magic than any other technology we've invented so far.I would agree.>It just something that does what we've done in the past, just faster.Exactly. Research is what spurs innovation. AI is REALLY good at summarizing and discerning data, and it's only getting better. The average pleb doesn't really notice because they're too busy gooning to AI generated waifus.>I'll take hopeful optimism for tomorrow over impossible dreams that'll just leave me jaded and bitter when reality hits.I agree as well. StarTrek replicators and infinite energy are nice, but the reality will probably be something more grounded. Hopefully, the developments AI offers'll be uniquely fruitful in their own right.>>96834536>Actually "AI" is one of the biggest energy consumers right nowYes, but it's not the biggest energy consumer by a long shot. Anyway, I don't care if it consumes more energy if it helps further research that ends up producing more energy in the future via optimization and development of new tech. Some numbers to chew on below.>Industry ~37% ~63,000 TWh >Transportation ~28% ~47,000 TWh >Residential (Homes)~22% ~37,000 TWh >Commercial/Services~9% ~15,000 TWh >Data Centers + Transmission/ICT~1–2% ~2,000–3,000 TWh (Includes global internet, AI training, cloud, crypto, etc.)Lotta luddite posting in here. Funny, considering my more middle-of-the-road approach to the subject.
>>96834536An hour of fucking netflix drains more energy than hundreds of AI prompts.
>>96834557>With the exception that the store has more security to assure you pay.Hilariously, they DO NOT!Sure, they have more SURVEILLANCE, but the sheer volume of transactions means they'd need social engineering and facial recognition that'd make even Red China cream themselves!>>96834604>Some numbers to chew on below.I mean I'm glad you posted numbers, but a lot of consumer prices on energy are going up because Big Tech is cutting sweetheart deals with Energy Producers and making the rest of us pay for the Infrastructure upgrades.And Research is not what the Big Tech/Data Bubble is really doing, rather it's trying to reinvent the marketing wheel to be better at selling you shit.
>>96834604> AI is REALLY good at summarizing and discerning dataWould you trust a doctor who did his study by reading CliffsNotes?
>>96834657>Hilariously, they DO NOT!I don't know any farmer's stall with security cameras, staff nearby and, at least around here, a gate barring your exit until you show your receipt for a reader.
>>96834657>going up because Big Tech is cutting sweetheart deals with Energy Producers and making the rest of us pay for the Infrastructure upgrades."Oh no, humans being shitty to other humans and trying to exploit them."Too bad we don't have an impartial AI running things. ;)>And Research is not what the Big Tech/Data Bubble is really doing, rather it's trying to reinvent the marketing wheel to be better at selling you shit.Well, they want to sell people on their tech. No surprise there. In either case, AI is being used by researchers to help further their study, whether it's parsing large datasets or composing their findings into a digestible format, which further accelerates advancements. >>96834664Would you trust a pajeet who cheated his way through college?
>>96834680>a gate barring your exit until you show your receipt for a reader.Except not even those Big box chains can do this consistently enough to matter!Hell, the only try that with larger purchases, and even then it's fairly faulty.
>>96834725>impartial AIAs long as people are programming them, such things will never exist.
>>96834725>>96834755>As long as people are programming them, such things will never exist.More to the point, developing biases is how they can sort data faster.
>>96834742And it's still more security than what a stall by the side of the road has. I don't know what you're trying to argue with this "can't catch them all". None of it refutes what was said.
Anybody wanna make a new thread so we can post more gobbo tits?
>>96834775No, no more gobbo threads. We have to keep arguing over hypothetical AI outcomes.
>>96834769>And it's still more security than what a stall by the side of the road has.Having run such a stand myself, effectively it's not.Again, you have to make good on your threats to prosecute, which requires the greeter to thoroughly check everyone walking through the door, something they are not paid enough to do in the first place, then go to the effort of calling in the Cops if they do suspect a violator.>>96834784>No, no more gobbo threads. We have to keep arguing over hypothetical AI outcomes.CAN'T WE DO BOTH?!
>>96834775Gimme a second.
>>96834796If this is the best the AI bots can muster for shitposting, I'm not very optimistic for the future.
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>>96834807Unfortunately I'm made of Meat anon.And yeah, the issue is securing the sheer volume of transactions; My roadside tomato stand will MAYBE get ten customers on a good day.It's much more likely I'll happen across a thief just by coincidence than a Walmart with even PROACTIVE Security, which is very much what they don't have.
>>96827055Yeah it finished this year
