Zog off>/40kg/ Community Linkhttps://rentry.org/40k-General>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/Previous thread:>>96722546>thread question:Questions are for gits
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>>967304852nd for Imperium Knights
>>96730493There should be a gorkamorka small setting, but instead of orks and humans, it's eldar and humans.
Post models
>>96730485>Questions are for gits
>>96730493Do you think Gokarmorka will return?Maybe some necromunda thing. Would be curious to see what modern GW does with digganobz.
Just finished reading the Drukhari 10th ed codex an hour ago.GW wrote that the Drukhari are rushing toward their own certain self-destruction thanks to the worsening daemonic from Khaine's Gate and the resulting civil strife as the Drukhari try to exploit the disaster. If the Drukhari united as one, they would surely cast the daemons back into the Warp and seal the gate. But that's not their way.To make matters worse, the Tyranid, attracted by the infested exodite world that the covens brought to the Dark City, have penetrated into the Webway and are making their way to Dark City. The Hivemind refuses to be denied its feast.Basically, the Drukhari are fucked.
>>96730519It's 40k. Everyone is fucked.
Ork ovvertrukk return when?
>>96730523Tyranids and T'au are certainly not.Anyway, before this lore, the Drukhari were safe in their Dark City. Now there is no escape.
>>96730525Bring back looted wagons and chinorks
>>96730485>TQ
>>96730516>Would be curious to see what modern GW does with digganobz.nothing because it's gonna be seen as culturally insensitive or some retarded shit.
>>96730528this is cool, I always imagined orks having airborne battles with armies equipped with these things. do recasters have this?
>>96730516nta, but Gokarmorka was infamously a financial disaster for GW, so it's never going to happen
>>96730527>T'auIf you consider plot shield then nobody is fucked
>>96730528So many cool Ork vehicles thrown to the way side. Lungbursta, Gutrippa, Spleenrippa, Bowelburna, Gobsmasha, Bonecruncha, Braincrusha, etc
>>96730516>>96730538Since Nucromunda has vehicles now, there's no reason not to just Gorka your own Morka.Or better; just get a pdf copy of the old rules, run off a black and white copy and string them together with some twine and a holepunch; insert into poly pockets if needed.The thing about /tg/ hobbies, is that once they are published, they exist forever, and there is zero shortage of third party Orks and vehicles and ruined scrapheap terrain.I swear, sometimes I feel like people are just looking for reasons to throw money into the GW Black Hole.
>>96730545Thank you for reminding me I need to work on our homeroolz make-a-profile
>>96730535They’re not too hard to make out of a deffkopta and some plasticard
>>96730544No. I am considering how their lore is written. There are little to no implications of DOOM. Only that they are a rising and expanding power meant to inherit the galaxy from humanity.
>>96730554I'm just interested in the minis m8.
>>96730538It's funny to think of a period in which a single box could be a financial disaster for GW
I wonder if an Incubi has ever slain a Pheonix lord. You can only be one after slaying a aspect warrior, I can imagine you get more respect if you slay a Exarch and not a random warrior to be an Incubi.
>>96730558Yeah, and just like humanity before them they'll get fucked by something, be it an AI rebellion or the warp or another alien specie fucking them over. It's the 4ok universe, everyone is in a constant process of getting fucked, the only difference is between those that see it coming, those that don't, those that enjoy it and those that don't
>>96730573ProbablyHe rolled 6s when his opponent rolled 1s
The lore reason Urien got sent to legends is that Yvraine offed him and Kheradruakh is coming back
>>96730545>>96730528It's weird ork vehicles went from big armoured shells to just bare bones frames with stuff bolted onto them.
My favourite part of CSM bitsRandom Space Marine helmets
>>96730562Fairs; I mostly just buy second hand bitz boxes off mothers who's sons have moved out.GW miniatures are hilariously overpriced compared to their competitors; particul;arly for basic troops, and since I actually play with my miniatures, the sculpts on their big wow-pieces tend to be fiddly and precarious, I prefer oldschool style metal models for anything big or important; white metal is still a great high detail medium, has a satisfying weight, and they are surprisingly affordable from many manufacturers.I am swimming in classic retro bitz, and old heroquest miniatures, and will never have to give James Workshop my money again anyway.And I have boxes of Wargames Atlantic and Northstar Miniatures stuff, which is great value for money, versatile for kitbashes, and good quality.I mostly just play indie skirmish heartbreakers, and my own homebrew anyway.Last time I could be botherd to play a GW game by the book was a long time ago; sometimes I use their old base system as a framework for narrative micro-games.Like lost space marines fighting through a sewer full of Orks, in a game I hacked together that sorta resembled a marathon session of Space Hulk in "survival mode".I also ignore any lore from a span of time that is actually moving backwards; at present rate I will have reverted to fourth edition 40k canon by next tuesday.Also, Majorkill is gay.
>>96730583The fuck are you talking about? Urien is mentioned in the codex on a single page dedicated to him, and it says that he is pretty much immune to death thanks to his necromantic mastery.
>>96730573Undoubtedly. I imagine there's a strong rivalry between Incubi and Striking Scorpions.>>96730585It's a shame. I liked it when the Orks would bully vehicles and weapons out of Imperial Worlds to use by threatening them with Gargants.
>>96730604Then the cannon ball slowly falls down vertically and rolls towards the enemy
Was black stone fortress fun?
>>96730620Ask the Cadians.
>>96730508Made tokens yesterday>>96730620Yes
>>96730591>GW overpriced>fuck GW>skirmich + homebrew>narrative micro-games>ignore "lore"Based x10>majorkill is gayamen
>>96730604>metal slug grot tankIncredible
>>96730620Never played it but everything else about it was great, cool models for things we didn't have yet, beastmen, darkmech, lost and damned. We got zoats and ambulls back the new xenology book is written from the perspective of the rogue trader from that game and its great. Also gave us a 40k version of that star wars bar. Just loads of xenos hanging out drinking which is cool
I still don't know what the fuck these are
>>96730660Guardian drones. The label feels pretty self-explanatory.
>>96730660Spooky old one tech, self replicating AI things. I like how their heads look like necron heads with the long chin and one eye
>>96730660destinyshit
>>96730652Orks are a pathway to many conversions some consider... cool.>>96730660War of the World Tripod ripoffs.
>>96730660Every time 40K explores xenos it looks more and more like infinity (derogatory)
>>96730674>>96730672Are they necron related? If they are guarding the blackstone fortress and blackstone is a necron thing?>>96730679>revolver barrel on shoota1) super cool conversion2) If only they could bring back the game Loadout but make it Orky
>>96730508
>>96730681you are no longer the target demographic
>>96730681What? Not even close.
>>96730620>>96730655I'll talk about the experience. I've played through the base game without any DLCs as the "DM" (I prefer controlling monsters) seven times now, and have a pretty good measure for it. It's close enough to D&D that getting people on board isn't hard at all and it's a lot easier to learn, to boot. With that being said, the encounter balance is pretty dreadful, and can be quite inconsistent even when it isn't. Spindle Drones, Traitor Guard, and the Ur'Ghuls are unbelievably dangerous, and maintaining inspiration for much of your party is difficult. The exploration stuff is pretty hit-or-miss, too. You can really struggle with the strongholds; they're absolutely brutal. The "meta" as far as I'm aware is to abuse the shit out of the shop phase and stock up as much as possible on purchases to use. Classic RPG stuff.The secret reward is only useful if you decide to play again. It's very similar to NG+, but makes subsequent playthroughs much easier, or at the very least, eases the stakes.
>>96730694Blackstone Fortresses are Old One tech. Blackstone is used extensively by Necrons but it's not their exclusive as it can be used to both suppress the warp and empower it.
>>96730701>>96730681GW has to sculpt a lot of sexy butts to compete.
>>96730681>infinityHere are your bespoke gue'vesa models.
>>96730694>super cool conversionIt's by Art_of_Duane. His ork army is amazing. He used to post in /wfg/ when he was making his entirely kitbashed and converted 6e Warriors of Chaos army. His work is fantastic.
>>96730720His WOC army was Slaanesh dedicated, and he was known as Slaanon there.
>>96730527>TyranidsBiomass is finite. Even when they win they lose.>TauThey're the smallest fish in the pond going through their he-who-fights-monsters arc.
>>96730720>>96730727
>>96730705Check out those cool psyker sculpts that 'had' to die with the box set because GW is so casual with designing expendable sprues
>Cold and Calculating: Gives himself and his unit Lethal Hits against Monsters and Vehicles, or if fighting anything other than Monsters or Vehicles then instead he gives them Sustained Hits (1).Okay so I guess he slaps Sustained Hits on every weapon profile in any terminator unit he joins, super duper.
What happens if a Blood Angel librarian falls to red thirst/black rage? Shouldn't his head explode, ork warphead style?Overwhelming rage isn't the best feeling to have when you are a psyker. I remember during the HH that World Eaters librarians couldn't stand the butcher's nails.
>>96730745I really don’t fucking care. Wish they showed another original ultramarine model instead of wasting time on iron hands.
>>96730523Autistic & wrong opinion, only "good" factions are really fuckedAlso Chaos Daemons are certainly not fucked
>>96730731>Biomass is finite. Even when they win they lose.thats not how it works in 40k
>>96730747>What happens if a Blood Angel librarian falls to red thirst/black rage?He snaps out of it and becomes Mephiston.
>>96730745I still think his weapon is stupid and lazy, nobody holds this kind of weapon like that, this is a terrible resting point; would work much better with an actual axe.Would only get that mini to make a terminator techmarine for another chapter.
>>96730754The whole point of chaos is that they fuck themselves over constantly
>>96730750>>96730765As a frequent lurker of both /40kg/ and /hhg/, it's always been amusing to see how starkly different the attitudes are towards some flavors of spehss muhreenz. Iron Hands being one of those that stands out a little.
To address the people supporting Arbitor Ian from the last thread>>96729557>>96729827>>96729852Ian is a scumbag, he literally wants to change the lore so that the Imperium has another civil war and splits between the high lores and Ultramar so that there is the old imperium and the Noble Bright Imperium. With the plan of the Noble Bright side winning. Ian solo reason for this change is to help force Right Wingers and alt righters out of the hobby. I left MTG for 40K cause of all the progressive shit, I am not going to let this happen again. Ian should stick to the lore and keep his idiotic progressive beliefs to himself.
>>96730660>>96730694>Are they necron related? If they are guarding the blackstone fortress and blackstone is a necron thing?old ones'necrons stole blackstone like they have stolen a lot of other things
>>96730731>Biomass is finite. Even when they win they lose.That's really not how it work. Are you one of those idiots that think that without eating biomass they would starve? It doesn't work like that even in the real world, let alone in 40k.
>>96730781I do love iron hands.I don't love that weapon and that mini strikes me as a techmarine kitbash base.
>>96730533SoBs are female space marine, they just have their "chapter/subfaction" baked in.It's like if all space marines were blood angels and you just painted them blue or green.
New Iron Hands detachment droppedHammer of Avernii>Caanok VaarTetsubo is called Axiom which is 5 attacks S8 AP2 Dam 2 OR 10 attacks damage 1 sweep>Cold and Calculating>>96730745Lethals against monster or Vehicle, Sustained on anything else>Cerebrex Logic EngineGives 1 Infantry unit Scouts 6, and then 1 redploy (including back into reserves)Detachment Rule is Calculated Annihilation: Each time a model attacks the OOM target, reroll wound rolls of 1, and if Caanok Var is on the army, AFTER that Oath target is destryoed you can pick a new one. This is not like G-mans and does not have to pick both at the start of the turn.Enhancements are:>Spiritus Ferrum: +1 Attack to bearer's melee weapons. Once per game, +1 attack to the entire squad>Iron Laurel+1 OC and the unit can get +1 OC once per game>Medusan RoarIf a unit fails a battleshock within 6 inches of the bearer, 1 model is destroyed but once every game you can make it d3 models instead>Steel FontTerminator model only. While the bearer is leading a unit, you can return 1 Terminator to life every command phase.New Stratgems are attached They look incredibly strong as just Terminator + Dread skew.Looks like Iron Hands are meta again boys
>>96730798They have Orders Minoris for homebrew "chapters", and it works almost the same as space marines. The Orders Minoris are all descended from one of the six founding orders.
>>96730782Ian is just a youtuber, he has no actual power over 40k and what he thinks of the lore doesn't matter to GW.
>>96730790>Are you one of those idiots that think that without eating biomass they would starve?Nta but aren't all their processes biological meaning that they need biomass as fuel like all living organisms?
>>96730782>he literally wants to change the loregood thing he's not emplyed by games workshop then isn't it. there's nothing wrong with fans doing thought experiments.
>>96730784How do you steal a naturally occurring mineral?>>96730782There are currently six ongoing possible civil wars plotlines in the lore from the Martian Synod planning to declare indepdence from Terra to the Grey Knights plot to kill the risen Emperor.Moreover, in one of the endings of the Rogue Trader game, you create a noblebright empire in the sector with the help of a C'tan shard.
>>96730803I used to think that until the IGN video approved by GW. Like GW has their own lore guy why not use him. Regardless it’s insulting that someone would want a massive lore change just to push out anyone who isn’t progressive, I saw it with MTG now it’s happening to 40K.
>>96730802All Ordos are nuns/joan of arc, they all have the fleur de lys.Imagine all space marines had baked in ultramarine symbols and iconography. All captains had a crest, all marines had pseudo-roman design sculpted on the mini.
Today I'm doing the plasma effect on 5 hellblasters and a jump pack intercessor. I hate drybrushing so hopefully I can get it all done in one go and never touch plasma blue again.
>>96730804>Nta but aren't all their processes biological meaning that they need biomass as fuel like all living organisms?How do you think real life Earth still has not starved if everything on it consume biomass as fuel and didn't get biomass from somewhere else?Protip: consuming biomass as fuel doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>96730814It's community outreach.What third-party companies and fans do is irrelevant to GW studio.
>>96730811>Moreover, in one of the endings of the Rogue Trader game, you create a noblebright empire in the sector with the help of a C'tan shard.Yeah zero chances of that going astray
>>96730784What are the fellas in the middle?
>>96730780>Far less applicable to Daemons than to CSM.Also some infighting is not "everyone suffers xd".
>>96730818nta but this is photosynthesis supremacist propaganda and I will not stand for it
marvel civil war was popular 10 years ago so it's time for 40k to have another one. penitent lion vs gulliman (alpharius)
>>96730822The C'tan is enslaved to the Rogue Trader. It's original C'tan sentience was removed and replaced with one loyal to the Rogue Trader PC.The Imperium tried to invade the new empire but the C'tan created a reality barrier that kept the Imperial warfleets out.
>>96730818Yeah but earth organisms don't travel through space and strip planets of their ecosystems and atmosphere, like at some point they have to checkmate themselves unless they create self-sufficient tyranid ecosystems.
>>96730833ntab don't tyranid fight each other too?
>>96730811>How do you steal a naturally occurring mineral?Same way you steal goldYou steal the mines, you steal the products made of gold, you steal the manufacturing processes to work it and make it do what you need it to do in aerospace and electronics It's also debatable whether it's naturally occurring or what people think are mines are actually remains of something ancient
>>96730833>like at some point they have to checkmate themselves unless they create self-sufficient tyranid ecosystems.You realise that all they need for that is just an energy source? And that not only they can do photosynthesis, but they can also pull energy straight up from the warp?
>>96730837>ntab don't tyranid fight each other too?I think only in super rare and dire circumstances. But even then let's assume they start to eat each other at some point only 1 fleet remains and would fail to gain new recourses
>>96730831Yeah, I am sure it will go completely well long term. It's not like having a single person with absolute power ever went badly in 40k.
>>96730847Don't tyranid fleets also splinter and gain "individuality"?
>>96730824the centaur is a zoat from blackstone fortress the fishguy is a saharduin from dead earth minis (ex necromunda sculptor, made the fishguy in his free time and proposed it to the studio while he was still working there, like some other miniatures that were actually released, but this one was turned down, at least he kept the rights to the sculpt, which was not a given)the helmeted frog is a slanni from diehard miniatures (called eru-kin there for copyright purposes)
>>96730837They do it regularly to either test what fleet is the strongest one or to have one fleet assimilate the remains of a defeated fleet to recover whatever of useful they had and recover biomass. Hive Fleet Hydra has that as its speciality. It's fine anyway since they don't lose biomass in doing that.
>>96730839>Same way you steal gold>You steal the mines, you steal the products made of gold, you steal the manufacturing processes to work itOr they didn't do any of that and Necrons just found natural deposits of the mineral on planets that they controlled? Or on a planet that nobody controlled and they were just the first to find it.
>>96730851Apparently, but not really, that's most likely an imperial anthropomorphism projected onto the fleets behaviour.
>>96730842>And that not only they can do photosynthesisI doubt that would sustain organisms as complex as nids plus even plant that do photosynthesis need water,minerals etc >but they can also pull energy straight up from the warpI doubt that the warp would exist in its current form without other organisms and it's a phenomena unique to the milky way galaxy if I remember correctly
>>96730852>the fishguy is a saharduin from dead earth minis (ex necromunda sculptor, made the fishguy in his free time and proposed it to the studio while he was still working there, like some other miniatures that were actually released, but this one was turned down, at least he kept the rights to the sculpt, which was not a given)I may be stupid, but are you saying this could have been an official miniature?
>>96730857Retconned by Fleet Typhon lore
>>96730851Depends what you mean by individuality. A splinter fleet will eventually evolve differently just because it will assimilate different genetic material and fight different enemies, so it will both have variant bio forms and different tactics.
>>96730816Nta, but are you retarded?Marines do have a baked in default iconography. They just get a bunch extra because they're the big sellers. For sisters, the issue is more that they've never produced kits that go above and beyond the normal fleur stuff. They very well could, but marines have always been and will always be special kids. Do you yhink you're stuck with the base 6 ork klans just becuase there's no official bits for anything else?
>>96730858Yeah, sure, the necrons just accidentally discovered blackstone as well as how to use it to conveniently fight their psychic enemies during a war with said enemies that were already weaponising blackstone against them in the first place.
>>96730862>I doubt that would sustain organisms as complex as nids plus even plant that do photosynthesis need water,minerals etcPlants don't consume water and minerals. Otherwise Earth will be stripped bare by now. >I doubt that the warp would exist in its current form without other organisms and it's a phenomena unique to the milky way galaxy if I remember correctlyYou may have not noticed it but the Hive Mind is a warp phenomena and the Tyranids came from outside the galaxy
>>96730816hmm imagine that imagine how wierd that would be
>>96730833They just go to the next galaxy idiot
>>96730864Yes, I suppose he was presenting it as a delaque thing, they do have ominous fishy aliens in their background.
>>96730508just finished this one late last night
>>96730869>marines do have default iconographyVery little actually, that's why it's easy to make them fit into subfactions by adding that unique iconography.Marines are plain and their default iconography can either fit into subfactions or be ignored.Sisters cannot do that, they all have the fleur the lys. Their armor is shaped to evoke nuns/joan of arc. Their weapons and units are tied to religious themes.Marines don't.But since you're more interested in calling me a retard, I'll stop wasting my time.Last (you).
>>96730833They already have a self sufficient tyranid ecosystem, they attack other worlds to get more MASS, not more energy.
>>96730862>I doubt that would sustain organisms as complex as nidsPhotosynthesis is just taking energy from the sun. Nids don't need to have it 1:1, they just need a way to convert heat/solar radiation into energy. And they canonically have ultra-efficient plants that can grow at ridiculous rates that they use to extract everything from a planet.
>>96730872Skull with wings is the Imperialis. Both it and the aquila can be found on plenty of non-Marines as well.
>>96730833>self-sufficient tyranid ecosystems.You mean a Hive ship?
>>96730872I'd have to imagine yes.
>>96730880Incredible, thank you for showing me this, it's fucking lovely
>>96730865?How is it retconned when they both do it differently?Typhon is a buzzard that flies around other fleets to steal processed biomass, Hydra straight up attacks other fleets and tries to steal their biomass through sheer numbers
>>96730895ah, so you are a retard like the other anon called you. got it, I don't have to waste my time on autists who medically can't admit they are wrong.
The more I hear about tyranids the more retarded they appear, like some mary sue "my faction can super adapt to everything and cant die and cant lose" bullshit.
>>96730892They can probably produce energy in other ways, they have psychic generators, bioplasma reactors and goddamn fucking wormholes.
>>96730870Glad you agree.
>>96730911>ah, so you are a retard like the other anon called you. got it, I don't have to waste my time on autists who medically can't admit they are wrong.>autists who medically can't admit they are wrong
>>96730884I said nta, I'm a new person calling you names. It's ok if you're new and sensitive. Point stands, the theming is strong by default, but if you aren't fucked into the dirt by GW, you can do whatever you want with your minor order. Or make up a secret 7th major order. Just put sister's heads on firstborn bodies or some of WGA's power armor stuff.
>>96730916Oh absolutely. Photosynthesis is literally the most basic bitch way of generating energy they could possibly have
>>96730912>The more I hear about chaos the more retarded they appear, like some mary sue "my faction can super corrupt everything and cant die and cant lose" bullshit.>The more I hear about necrons the more retarded they appear, like some mary sue "my faction can super annihilate everything and cant die and cant lose" bullshit.Bro, they're one of the 3 main apocalyptic factions of 40k. Like sure, there are also orks and DEldar, but yes, Chaos, Necrons & Tyranids are the most in-your-face large-scale danger.
>>96730902>cherry picks one black templar model that has cloth over the aquila to pretend they dont use it like every other space marine factionWait, so is your point that because sisters don't have over 800 models they are locked into one design? Is that actually your point? Holy shit
>>96730880Do you have a standalone pic of that mini painted like in the collage from >>96730784?
>>96730911Apology accepted.
>>96730931
>>96730912They have a bunch of ridiculous characteristics, yeah, which is the reason most of the times when you see them getting fought in novels or videogames or anything the writers ignore a lot of them because otherwise it would be retarded.But people not understanding how biomass works is not one of those.
Had a game with the brand new codex today! The Space Wolves were tricky and got their saga complete quite quickly but I had enough firepower to utterly mulch the competition. At one point I got my Rapid Ingress Archon behind 22 space wolves (A mix of Grey Hunters and Intercessors, led by characters) and killed like 15. Incredibly funny enhancement.Some highlights also include: Hellions breaking some Wulfen kneecaps, Shooting a Judiciar in the face with a Dark Lance that had Precision and then running over his squad, Drazhar doing nothing and dying immediately, and Lelith jobbing to a callidus, only for the Wyches to kill her in returnFun game.
>>96730927>Wait, so is your point that because sisters don't have over 800 models they are locked into one design? Is that actually your point? Holy shitI mean if you're just gonna run around making shit up why would anyone need to talk?I'd say go and have an argument with yourself, that seems way more interesteding and entertaining to you.>Say shit>Actually here's my insight>ARE YOU RETARDED?? OMG ARE YOU SAYING THIS SHIT I MADE UP? LMAO SNOWFLAKE GROW UPI think you nigger faggots need to grow up, we're not your dads.
Bros i want to start first SM army and i want white scars. Do you think its ok box to start if next one i will buy is big 11ed box?
>>96730927>so is your point that because sisters don't have over 800 models they are locked into one design?Nta, but sisters are locked into 1 design because they are just meant to be bdsm catholic nuns in space. Once you start to step away from that, like making sisters into meso-american inspired or into BA fangirls who are all female vampires, you're just losing the plot because you're removing space catholism from the space catholism faction.For marines their design language can vary a lot because space marines are just meant to be giant super human soldiers in thick power armor. Aka space marine theme as a whole is much more vague and much more easily tweaked and modified without losing their "essence" so to speak.
>>96730949do you have experience painting white?
What's a unit that is shit but you keep using because you love it?
>>96730962The Imperial units.
>>96730950Theres literally no reason you cant make them into vampires or meso american whatevers. In fact, the origin of the sisters was half naked warrior women on a primitive world.
>>96730929that mini in particular was painted by an anon who posts(ed?) here.the final photo isn't his, it's a size comparison with the one official saharduin mini (rogue trader era) and 2 knockoffs on the same oldhammer style made by knightmare miniatures.
>>96730529>BLAM>plasma pistolTertiary detected
>>96730926>Chaos, Necrons & Tyranids are the most in-your-face large-scale danger.Yeah but chaos can be defeated and necrons are much more flawed with their dementia and internal conflicts giving at least the illusion of defeating them.Nids are written and portrait in such a way that they seem invincible, they javelin infinite numbers ,can adapt to everything and even if usually defeat a hive fleet that was only a scouting fleet and the real nids haven't even arrived in the galaxy yet bullshit.It cheapens the setting in my opinion and the only reason they haven't broken the balance of the setting is because necrons exist.
Question for Dark Eldar changes: i've seen a lot of complaining that you can't sticky from venom, does it entail only the (half)squad in the venom or can the 5 chuds with karabines still sticky it up and just lag behind on foot?
>>96730956no the only thing i painted be4 was AoS skelleton army
>>96730986>Yeah but chaos can be defeatedWhat? I mean I generally don't have a horse in this race but you're crazy if you think that Chaoswank is somehow less prevalent than Nidwank, to the point where some BL authors tried to push the idea that Chaos wins 40k (which thankfully been brushed aside for now).>Nids are written and portrait in such a way that they seem invincibleAs I said same can be said of Crons and Chaos. They're one of the big bad 3 factions, idk why we have to have this conversation, especially when none will "win". Whatever hype either faction has doesn't matter, dude.
>>96730986Are you from 4th edition?Chaos has been wanked like a hundred times what Nids have in the last decades.
>>96730980he had made some upgrades too but I can't find good pictures
>>96730986>chaos can be defeatedIt most certainly cannot. Tyranids are finite. They can be beaten in conventional waysChaos for all intents and purposes, is infinite. It's not an external force only, but it's within the walls and within the very souls of its victims. Chaos even in defeat gets stronger.That's why Chaos is always referred to by Word of God as the greatest threat against which all alien threats pale before.
>>96730980Cheers anon, thank you again for showing me this, luv me some niche/forgotten warhammer minis.
They're mid!MID!!!
>>96730990Kabalites still have sticky objectives, but the ability to use that from inside a transport is now a Raider ability
Why havent the Grey Knights been sent here? The planet is in rebellion, and has daemon problem in the form of Daemonhost, beast of Nurgle, and chaos spawn running amok, and in the case of Daemon host single handedly thwarting Inquisitor Iven Rannik's forces.Given the threat level of a single daemonhost why havent the Grey knights responded?
>>96731002Why can't we have more of this.I love marines and humans but the world is sad without fun aliens and other fantasy creatures.
>come back after 10-ish years>dropped the game after aos started and SC boxes were 65€>equivalent boxes are more than double the price>characters are almost 40€>watch roadmap, new releases are 90% space marinesI'm asking this from a genuine curious point of view, how do you justify spending that ammount of money in plastic? Please don't hit me with "it's not an expensive hobby" because a single space marine is a week's worth of groceries for a single guy living by himself. It's even worse when the consensus online is pretty much the last 2 editions were utter shit. And for dark eldar and grey knights, how have you manage not to throw your armies away? You have the exact same kits as 11 years ago, but 80% more expensive.Not trying to create bait btw, I'm more amazed at how GW has managed to suck warhammer lovers' money with no complains or repercussion.PS: Wtf those dwarfs are hideous. People used to say tau didn't belong in 40k back in the day but damn...
>>96730997>some BL authors tried to push the idea that Chaos wins 40k (which thankfully been brushed aside for now).What do you mean some? Alan Merrit and Rick Priestley said Chaos will win in the end.We have three recent GW studio staff members saying that story of 40K is humanity vs Chaos and how all other conflicts in 40K are secondary to this war. Also how Chaos is probably going win it.
>>96731007>Tyranids are finiteNTA but that is not confirmed at all as well as their origin point, if there is any. The theories can be as naturalistic or as outlandish as one wants, see 10th edition fluff about the nature of the Hivemind.
>>96731019It's an incredibly minor kurfuffle by Imperial standards. The plot of Darktide makes it incredibly clear that by the time the Arbites show up they have only JUST learned that there even are chaos cultists. The thing is, chaos worship is incredibly common in the Empire and usually just means burning a few peasents and beating the menials in a show of force. No one realized there was an incredibly advanced, organized, funded and armed Nurgle cult in the main hive.
>>96731009Goonhammer's tranny infested site has done irreparable damage to Warhammer.
>>96731019There's 1k GKs, there are much bigger things to pay attention to than this.
>>96731034>common in the Empire>the EmpireThe fucking what?
>>96731019GKs just lost over half of their fightforce dealing with Angron on Armageddon during 4th and are spread thin
>>96731031Actually, it was. Tyranids, according to 5th ED, ate twelve galaxies before coming to the 40K galaxy. With this piece of information, we can guess which part of the universe the Tyranids came from.We know for a fact that they started in another galaxy.
>>96731027You realize the way you word your post doesn't reflect Chaos in a better way, right?>Alan Merrit and Rick PriestleyIrrelevant washed ups.>but White DwarfAlso pretty irrelevant.
>>96731026>And for dark eldar and grey knights, how have you manage not to throw your armies away?What kind of retarded mentality is this? I love my armies and I love my models. Even if GW squatted them tomorrow why would I ever throw away the stuff that I already have and that I had fun building and painting and that l like to look at?I haven't played AoS in maybe 6 years but I still enjoy the sight of my armies in their class case in my room.
>>96731026>how do you justify spending that ammount of money in plastic?I don't, I spend max 100 bucks a year and I only buy from the online store if I can't get it from a -20% retailer.Yes it's an expensive hobby, despite what faggots like to lie about.Pro-tip for everyone: stop believing people, never take what they say at face value, 99.9% of people don't talk to communicate but as a tool to get something.Read between the lines, people aren't hard to figure out.
>>96731007>Chaos for all intents and purposes, is infinite.Chaos is already dead, they just don't know it yet...>S1: There is a grand bargain here.>S2: I understand it.>S1: Do you? Already? Good. Very good. What is the bargain?>S2: [Silentium.] Infinite power cannot be overcome. We are finite, limited by law. So, deception.>S1: Do you find that unworthy?>S2: No.>S1: Because it comes from me.>S2: Yes.>S1: Speak freely. For once, speak freely. You are only just awakened – there may be few chances left for you.>S2: [Silentium.] You will cheat them. You will cheat all of them. And us.>S1: A risky strategy.>S2: There are no others.>S1: You understand it. And, tell me – do you understand the full implication?>S2: Ruin. Total ruin.Valdor - Birth of the Imperium
>>96731019Because they have other more important shit to do.
>>96730962Pre WE buff I always brought one unit of Eightbound, they had an aura of +1 to hit and would mince InfantryPost WE buff I scrapped 2 Forge fiends and now bring a reinforced unit of Eightbound and an Exalted Eightbound unit led by a Slaughterbound. In all my recent games the Slaughterbound with exalted has punched up and destroyed 500-600 pts worth of vehicles every game.
>>96730981What sound effect would you prefer for someone getting hit by a plasma bolt?
>>96731052bro, according to these people, 40k is monsterously expensive but also when GW performs a malfeasance (typically against recasting pirates or temu knock offs) I'm suppose to dump all of my armies immediately in some sort of solidarity
>>96731051>Irrelevant washed ups.Their vision for the metastory is still being followed.>Also pretty irrelevant.Phil Kelly, Andy Clark, and Stu Black are studio designers and writers. The guys writing the mainline 40K lore.Old and new. Aliens are irrelevant to the main story of 40K, which as Clark and Kelly said, have always been and will always be humanity vs Chaos.
>>96731045Yes, it's very common especially among the poor, desperate and disenfranchised. Literally every single look we get into daily Imperial life shows chaos worship as a dark underbelly to society. From slanneshi noble crypto cults to a poor worker who was beaten one too many times by the enforcers who buys a symbol of Tzeentch and starts praying to it to deliver him from the "Emperor's justice". A couple thousand guardsmen going rogue or a workers strike or some chaos trinkets being discovered by themselves are not enough on their own for the Nobles to invite the inquisition to their planet much less an organization that they are definitely not supposed to know about and if it did would kill everyone on the planet in a week before moving on.
>>96731067>have always beenThis is straight up false for anybody that didn't started the game yesterday. Until around 6th edition Xenos had a much bigger focus than Chaos.
>>96731019Grey Knights and Space marines aren't sent in to fight mid level threats like in Darktide. They have better shit to do like fighting Hordes of ZerkersDarktide still only has cultists to deal with, that's enough for Guard, PDF, and an inquisitor to deal with. When Plague marines start popping up then that's when you call the Space Marines.
>>96731067nta, but Alan Merret and Rick Priestly also supported 40k being about chaos vs humanity. I don't know what that anon is smoking, these guys were also responsible for Realms of Chaos and the HH
>>96731038Is 1k Greyknights even a thing?I always saw them as not bound to the codex and are more like Space Wolves and Black Templars where each subfaction is bigger than a normal Spacemarine chapter.
>>96731050>Actually, it was. Tyranids, according to 5th ED, ate twelve galaxies before coming to the 40K galaxy1) *at least twelve2) that by no means answers the question where they come from in any tangible way, because 10th edition codex says that they could very well be God-projections, just big predators or anything else>We know for a fact that they started in another galaxy.We literally don't and you won't be able to find any quote that directly correlates with that. Not to mention that newer codex fluff would supercede that.
>>96731078
>>96731078Focus in the game doesn't mean focus in the backstory, you xenofag tourist.
>>96731019There are only 1k gk and there are several demon primarchs active in real space right now they have better things to do than kiling cultists there
>>96731061god damn that dude is scary
>>96731085I don't know, I usually do my own thing anyway, but even if there was a million of them there are still more important things to do.Afterall there isn't a single space marine deployed yet, so why even a greyknight, because of demonic activity? Nothing a few hundred ogryns can't handle, apparently.
>>96731067>main story of 40K40k doesn't have a story, it is a setting.
>>96731078Let me open the 6th ED main rulebook and see for myself.>Chaos is the greatest threatLet me open the 5th ED core book>Chaos is the greatest threatFine let me open the 4th ED core book>Chaos is the greatest threatStrange. Let me check the third edition>Chaos is the greatest threatWhat about the second edition Codex Imperialis>The Warp is the greatest threat to mankindWhat the fuck, anon?
>>96731092Yes, the literally only moment of focus that Chaos had in six editions.
>>96731050>With this piece of information, we can guess which part of the universe the Tyranids came from.I remember a thread trying to track that and also a way older lore saying they ate hundreds or thousands.But the question is whether we have to count dwarf galaxies in that number or just relatively big ones like the milky way and Andromeda.Another question is whether they travel in a line or a circle, because the immense distances between galaxies, to me, would point to tyranids being a much younger and local cosmic megapredator than some other hyperbolic hypothesis would suggest.Making them "simply" original from Andromeda and having consumed everything in the local cluster would be more than enough for me, as a nidfag, also because it gives nids a reason to struggle, since this galaxy could be considered an atypically large meal for them, perhaps the first with some kinds and extremes of opposition that they might not have had in Andromeda, assuming a calmer place and thus a lucky start.
>>96731078Necromunda has its own game and books about their gangs, so going by your logic they're the more important planet in the Imperium, right?
>>96731102It's both, and always has been
>>96730969>origin of the sisters was half naked warrior women on a primitive world.Those aren't space catholics, those are naked tribal savages.
>>96731052Obviously a way of speaking. But if I was an active playing and saw the game drowning in marines for 10 years, at least I'd be slightly mad.
>>96731105>the only moment of focus chaos had in 6 editions
>>96731112I didn't know the magellanic clouds were closer than AndromedaOr is this just a victim of 3d on a 2d image and they are further "back" in the image?
>>96731134equidistant
>>96731023I love alien freaks, but the general customer prefers more normal products like humans and the setting is, at the end of the day, humans vs the others.they could and should sprinkle in alien stuff in various factions, but even there gw prefers playing it safe and retreading stuff they already know there's a customerbase for.
>>96731066I just got on ebay, buy someone else's army who is dumping it in rebellion and leaving the hobbyThen I burn that one to show my solidarity with the community
>>96731147Pretty much this.It sells.
>>96731119Worldbuilding isn't the same as having a "story" anon.This is a setting, it can have stories within itself, but it is not a story on its own, nor it will ever be because it will never have an ending of any kind and no significant story advancement will ever occur. The biggest they can do is pull relatively wet fart events like Cicatrix Maledictum, which was successfully circumvented by like more than half the factions in the setting already, be it Startide Nexus, Necrons or SitW. They can't even permanently kill off any named character, less so permanently kill off an entire faction, it is a testament to your adorable naivety if you think 40k has a story at all.
>>96731089Not at least. 5th ED gives a concrete number. The Tyranids ate a dozen.Hard facts > Speculation.I am 90% sure I ran into a quote saying that the Tyranids originated from another galaxy. When I have the time, I will look for it.
they should make chaos and xenos inherently stronger than imperial factions
>>96731152>Then I burn that one to show my solidarity with the communityDon't do that. Burning plastic and resin will give you cancer.
>>96731142Interesting
>>96731130Ok fine, one of the two moment of focus chaos had in six editions.
>>96730962The orca. I got into 40k through the fire warrior game as a kid and you use that transport several times in the game so I always wanted it.
>>96731105>the literally only moment of focus that Chaos had in six editions.Wrong. Before 6e GW was already working in the HH, Vraks, and Badab.You confuse being the focus of starter boxes with their importance in the setting
>>96731134a Google search says>1500 kilo-light years for Andromeda >163 kly for the large cloudso it's closer by a factor of 10
>>96731165>Making Eldar or Tau stronger than anyoneGo back and try again.
>>96731159Dude.GW is following the comic formula. Regardless of what you feel about it, it's a story. A progressive one with new episodes and development.
>>96731168just kidding the clouds are ~0.200m ly away and andromeda is 2.5m ly away
>>96731119the emperor is a turk?
>>96731163>Hard facts > Speculation10th codex disproves your "hard facts", not to mention that everyone knows how low of a quality 5th edition nid codex was and it isn't the first time it was directly retconned.I can pull a hard throbbing fact showing you Tyranid-corrupted CSM from 2E or a Tyranid-corrupted Warlord Titan from a comic written by Abnett, that doesn't mean its anything well-supported in fact>When I have the time, I will look for it.Really doesn't matter unless its more recent than 10th lol.
>>96731170Based>had an edition focused on flyers>no orca>had a 6mm flyers game>no orcaMan what the frick
>>96731169when you are this ignorant you should shut up and sit down, you stupid faggot
>>96731176Very flawed analogy, comics follow story arcs that have conclusions as well as their own separate AUs, universe resets and the such, also including characters dying a plenty.40k is absolutely locked in a perpetual status quo on a global level and none of the developments will truly amount to anything significant.
>>96731171HH was 2012. 6th edition was 2012 too. Badab was Imperials Vs Imperials.
>>96731190the orca is too big for 40k and not enough of a jet-fighter for aeronatica
>>96731019The Atoma Prime system is currently isolated by Warp Storms so the inquisition has to make do with what they have.Also like this anon said >>96731034 in the recent campaign that clarified the story explained that the inquisition only started to figure out that this isn't just a regular disgrunteled rogue imperial guard regument but there is a nurgle chaos cult at play within Tertium, the main hive of Atoma Prime.Like if you play through the campaign you notice that there are actual cultists enemies (the dregs in yellow clothes) or monstrosities or even daemonhosts in the early missions, it's only the scab enemies (the moebian 6th traitor regiment). Only once you start getting to the "hourglass" missions, sand zone, is when you start to come into contact with more cultists and the inquisition warband starts to figure out that there is some chaosy shit a-foot on Atoma Prime.
>>96731134There are tons of dwarf galaxies much closer than andromeda. Andromeda is just really big so it dominates a large section of our sky.
Why can’t knights fly
>>96731194I am sorry I didn't consider the books about Krieg from FW a Chaos focus moment anon.
>>96731104>greatest threat to humanity>humanityWhy should I care if I have no reason to identify with humanity? Not to mention it being less of a threat to other factions.
>>96730523The imperium is objectively nowhere near fucked, no matter how much GW tries to shill the crumbling empire narrative.>>96730712I thought infinity got rid of those.>>96730816>all have the fleur de lys.The Fleur is like the skull imagery ALL space marines have dumbass. The orders all have the own heraldry beyond that. >>96730912>my faction can super adapt to everything and cant die and cant lose"They job to marines pretty much every time the fight them, he'll they job to pretty much everyone they fight except eldar, their adaptations don't do shit, and Cawl can unfuck any planet they eat.
>>96731185Turks did not arrive to Anatolia until many millenia later, anonIt's canon that the Emperor is "brown", though>>96731199The current HH began in 2004 with a card game and Visions of HeresyBadab was caused by Chaos corruption
Considering how much of the codex is cultists and mutants and daemons and whatnot, wouldn't it make more sense to rebrand Chaos Space Marines into Forces of Chaos or, as it once were, just plain Chaos? Similar rebranding could be done for Thousand Sons since it's possible to build a full 2000 pts army with not a single Thousand Son marine in it.
>>96731187The 10th ED does no such thing. I read it. Vague statements do not beat fact from older publications. >I can pull a hard throbbing fact showing you Tyranid-corrupted CSM from 2E or a Tyranid-corrupted Warlord Titan from a comic written by Abnett, that doesn't mean its anything well-supported in factTyranids corrupting marines has been a thing even in recent stories.And I see no issue in Tyranids subverting technology.You don't get to dismiss something because it tuins your headcanon.
>>96731214Just take the L, idiot. You just look worse when you squirm and twist about it.
>>96731217Because if humanity falls, then so will everyone else in the galaxy. It's the reason why Eldrad supports mankind
>>96731185retard
>>96731230I don't know anon considering now people are bringing out that Chaos had a focus because they once released a card game about marines Vs marines it's pretty funny to continue
>>96731207Cawl has yet to attach his patented Cawl-pattern repulsor plates to the feet of any knight. But the day will come.
>>96731228>Vague statements do not beat fact from older publications.Yes they fucking do when it comes to how well-maintained and reinforced that information is.I specifically picked the stupid tyranid-corrupted mecha because it was in a weird side-content comic and has never came up at all anymore.If a codex says something and it hasn't been repeated for the decades then you should very much treat it with a big BIG grain of salt and rely on newer information.
>>96731226What you don't understand, but gw does, is that the average consumer is literally braindead, if they sold that codex as chaos today a large portion of spiky marinefags would unironically feel lost about where their faction went.I'm not joking or exaggerating.
>>967311858th millennium BC is around 6000 years before the likely ancestors of the Turks first moved eastward into Mongolia. So no, he predates them considerably.
>>96731217>Not to mention it being less of a threat to other factions.Humans aren't a less of a threat to other factions when humans want to genocide everyone and everything and don't care even IF there were actually peaceful ones, everything is getting exterminated.
>>96731187>that doesn't mean its anything well-supportedtry to keep up
>>96731226christ im so glad this dogshit cartoony artstyle fucked off
>>96731218>The Fleur is like the skull imagery ALL space marines have dumbass. The orders all have the own heraldry beyond that.Keep yapping faggot, marines don't have that many skulls on them.Why do idiots feel like they're smarter than everyone? Oh, right, they ARE idiots.
>Rogue Trader released>no Chaos in the book>starter scenario is Crimson Fists vs Orks>lore is primarily Imperium, mentions the Warp off-handedly but says nothing of specific Chaos forces, next most lore is Orks, then Eldar, then Tyranids, then races that didn't make it past this edition>first expansion book released with a Space Wolves vs Orks campaign and some other stuff, still no Chaos>Chaos only added in expansion books for Warhammer Fantasy when GW realized they could add 40k stuff to sell them to both systems>get two such books>meanwhile Orks get 3 expansion books that edition alone>board games released are Space Hulk (Marines vs Genestealers), Space Crusade (Marines vs bit of everything like Blackstone Fortress), Advanced Space Crusade (Marines vs Tyranids), Tyranid Attack (take a fucking guess), etc.>2nd edition released with Blood Angels vs Orks starter set>in Epic 40k, Chaos have to share an expansion book with Eldar because they aren't important enough to have their own>Tyranids get a standalone Epic 40k release with a huge boxed set>first global campaign is Imperium vs Tyranids at Ichar IV>Ultramarines get their first posterboys Codex, all of their major lore is about the Corinthian Crusade vs Orks and the Tyrannic Wars, barely anything on Chaos>Chaos have a single Codex for all of their shit, not split up for Daemons and different Legions and shit>3rd edition released with Black Templars vs Dark Eldar>Next major global campaign is Armageddon, centering around Imperium vs Orks>two (2) more Xenos races added in the form of Tau and Necrons because Xenos are popular, Chaos still have a single Codex>Necrons used to be Chaos Androids but got retconned to being Xenos because no one gives a shit about Chaos>end of the edition is the Eye of Terror Campaign, the first time Chaos gets a spotlight (only took 16 years)
>>96731251Omissions =/= retconsGW for 4 editions straight did not add that bit about Orks reproducing via spores in the Ork codexes. They replaced it with vague statements and speculations.Does that mean that spores got retconned? Think, anon, think!
>>96731264>t. retarded zoomer slop taste
>>96731260>post about Tyranids corrupting a titan and CSM>smugly posts some irradiated genestealers as a responseyou're a special kind of stupid arent you?
>>96731270>4th edition released with Ultramarines vs Tyranids, Chaos spotlight already went away>even the main rulebook plays up Xenos as biggest threat this time>cover of the Space Marines codex is fighting Tyranids>Medusa V global campaign gives everyone equal attention, no Chaos special treatment>cities of death expansion gives spotlight to Tau>end of the edition they finally make Daemons their own faction with a separate Codex>5th edition starter is Ultramarines vs Orks>not a single Chaos codex or update or campaign for the entire edition>two Xenos factions, Necrons and Dark Eldar, get huge revamps/model line updates>Chaos are now officially using older more outdated models than the majority of Xenos factions>then Horus Heresy autism starting taking off and soon everything is ruined by secondaries talking about off-topic primarch fanfiction in the 40k threads>6th edition starter is Dark Angels vs Chaos (only took them 25 years to be in one starter set vs Xenos in 5)>lore starts taking a steep nosedive, newfag designers and writers start putting out the worst rules, models and writing the game has ever seen>COINCIDENTALLY this just happens to be the time GW starts playing up Chaos as the "main bad guy">40k is generally downhill from here on with occasional spikes back up in quality partyway through 7th and sometimes during 8th
rose tinted goggles boomer faggot
>>96731271>GW for 4 editions straight did not add that bit about Orks reproducing via spores in the Ork codexes. They replaced it with vague statements and speculations.1) nowhere near the same example as pulling shit out 5E codex with its terrible reputation2) quite literally yes if they're viable theories>I am 90% sure I ran into a quote saying that the Tyranids originated from another galaxyI am waiting anon, but no, we don't have anything concrete about origins of nids and that is by design
Just saw the new White Scars detachment. As someone who is starting to collect them, here is my idea for a 1000pts list. Any thoughts?-Suboden Khan-Lieutenant (ignores cover + sustained hits enhancement, assuming 15-20 points)-5 Intercessors-5 Jump Pack Intercessors-10 Hellblasters-3 Outriders-Redemptor Dread-Storm Speeder HammerstrikeThat would leave me at 985-990 points. Alternatively I'm thinking of taking a Thunderstrike instead of the Hammerstrike and downgrading the Jump Pack Intercessors to either Assault Intercessors or Scouts.Both Storm Speeders don't have the best rules for this, as the Hellblasters have ignores cover already, and +1 to wound is already on Oath of Moment. So they would mostly support the Dreadnought.
>>96731226>>96731252That book is like 90% chaos marines. Even the cover doesn't show any cultists or daemons. I have no doubt you cocksuckers are Space Marine players, because you folk love to tell CSM players what their armies are suppose to be (typically cultists led by a single chaos marine). Yeah, Chaos Marines players don't want a focus on cultists or daemons. Those things can be part of the army but its not what is wanted by fans.
>>96731187the 5th ed codex was shit rulewise, not fluffwisedon't be a retard
>>96731267>marines don't have that many skulls on them.Retarded secondary
>>96731311Wasn't that the codex that had the Tau out evolving the Tyranids and the bullshit about the Swarm lord?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96731270>>96731279>chaos corrupted the setting and made it shitty and a husk if it's former self Fluff accurate chaos
>>96731311>not fluffwiseIt very much was lol, the codex was bemoaned how it introduced new hive fleets and then immediately had them lose narrative battles where they were first mentioned it. >ruleswise It wasn't that horrid aside from some terrible outliers, the special characters were kind of cool.
>>96731319I still cringe thinking about how they shoved the swarmlord into Ichar IV
>>96731319it had an interesting arms race between hive fleet gorgon and the tau empire and introduced the swarmlord, yesdo you want be retarded and stick to your memetic flanderisations of those things or accept that they don't suddenly make another part of the lore invalid just because you don't like it?
>>96731318You know what's spookier?There's a 6th secret skull inside of his helmet.
>>96731322Sorry chud, Corsairs are the hip and trendy new Eldar who are waaaay cooler and better than the old chud Eldar factions. Be a better ally and support Corsairs.
>>96731324There's a reason why Chaos and chaosfags are viewed as insufferable and annoying.
>>96731318>complains about cherry picking>picks a veteranYou know what else you lied about? Fleur de lys being the equivalent of skulls or aquilas.Keep. Yapping. Faggot.
>>96731331>the codex was bemoaned how it introduced new hive fleets and then immediately had them lose narrative battles where they were first mentioned it.only by retards, that's how tyranids narratives have always workedbefore that, and way before leviathan, they had already introduced behemoth to have it crash immediately against ultramar and they introduced kraken to have it crash immediately against iyanden and icharthe point is that the fleets survive those assaults, but provide those historical events
Im not gonna like the 11th starter box am I
>>96731334I am not that guy, I don't even play Tyranids, but I have heard Tyranids players crying about the fluff of the 5th edition codex years back then, so forgive me if it sounded very strange hearing that the fluff in it was good.
>>96731337bullshit, marines don't have bones
>>96731356Depends, what faction you play?
since apparently a woman has mantled drazhar i could just use the female archon torse, slap on demiclaves and spike up the helmet a bit more and have a passable kitbash?
>>96731354>that's how tyranids narratives have always workedLiterally not a thing in any codex BEFORE or AFTER itI literally have (almost) every codex as a PDF anon, including 5th
>>96731346Thats eldarfags though (all types)
>>96731354>>96731334>>96731302>Yeah, 99% of Tyranids player hated the fluff in the codex at the time but the Cruddex was actually good, thrust me
>>96731322goodbye midriff baring wyches it was nice knowing you
>>96730516I wish. It was so much fun.
>>96731385Yes in a individual sense but there are like dozen chaosfags for every eldarfag so they are more insufferable in an absolute sense.
>>96731393what if they enhance midriff and give them abs, make them taller, and give them actually decent faces?
>>96731369None now. I just sold my world eaters
>>96731375Not really how it works. It's the same suit of armor and that contains the gestalt soul of all the exarchs that were melded into it before subsumed into the Phoenix Lord. The body wastes away and is replaced by light over time. Of course, this is really not consistent between all portrayals by different authors.But you do you. I don't think it would be a huge lower break and it would look cool still.
Did some fucking about and 1:1 Wlywood/Goregrunta constant sloppa over Karak Stone makes a decent leather/brown colour for clothing/bags and other shit. May do some more fuckery later to see if any other half decent things become available.
>>96731389>saturday euro eveningYou should've known that it is Carnac time.
>>96731401At which point I wake up?
>>96731353>Still less fluers than a space marine has skulls>You know what else you lied about? Fleur de lys being the equivalent of skulls or aquilas.Unfathomably retarded I accept your concession retard
>Lord Kakophonist is back in stock againI will take two please.
>>96731270>>96731279>Rogue Trader released>no Chaos in the bookRealms of Chaos was written at the same time and already had the background for the Emperor vs chaos and the Traitor legions.There were also supplements for chaos orks and genestealer cults.>Space CrusadeThe enemies were all chaos xenos, androids and CSMThe rest of your posts is typical retarded out of touch midhammer kid bullshit that needs to die. >2000-2001, early BL novels and the index Astartes articles in White dwarf had already kickstarted the hype for the old legions and the primarchd. 2003. Eye of Terror, 2004: Visions of Heresy, 2006: Horus Rising, The Fall of Medusa V, 2007-8 Vraks...Chaos (and the HH) have always been a key part of 40k, even if they weren't always the focus of starter kits because GW marketing didn't want to upset the mums of little timmies like you were at the time, retard
>>96730528>>96730545man I just want a mid range tank option for orks as a placeholder unit for all the looted stuff and variants
>>96731278>"a bit of radiation undoes millions of years of HIvemind control">delusional nidfag can't see who's pulling the strings ngmi
>>96731432Rogue Trader already had nids lol.
>>96731415>make shit up>lose>"I win fuck you waawaa"Fatherless behavior.Idk maybe if you make more shit up or get more shit wrong it's gonna stick, only one way to find out!
>>96731442>delusional nidfag can't see who's pulling the strings>its chaos even though the people who created them specifically said their aspiration was to make something that was unrelated to Chaos corruption on stream, publicallyhow feeble, you can try again to anger me but you shall fail
>>96731432I like how you had to nitpick like 3 examples to point out that Chaos actually got 2 supplements back in rogue trader (which was already mentioned, and confronted with orks that got 3), pretend that the boardgame with Genestealers on the cover was actually exclusively Chaos focused, that Medusa V was for some reason focused on chaos while it was a free for all among all the factions to try to support your narrative.
Going to a small scale competition tomorrow as a largely infantry based guard army.Advice for not getting completely floored?
>>96731432>>Space Crusade>The enemies were all chaos xenos, androids and CSMAh yes. The famous chaos xenos, the Orks, the Goblins and the Genestealers
>>96731464>Advice for not getting completely floored>as a largely infantry based guard armyits too late
my jewtube recommendations say the new iron hands rules known.what are my thoughts on the detachment?
>>96731477I have one tank and a sentinel as vehicles, but that's it. It's 1000 points.
>>96731297>1) nowhere near the same example as pulling shit out 5E codex with its terrible reputationwat>2) quite literally yes if they're viable theoriesThe vague shit is as viable as the Ork theories. Both are equally of no value vs a hard fact.>I am waiting anon,On it
>>96731481Who cares it’s a shitty chapter
>>96731481terminator focusedtherefore bad
>>96731458>>its chaos even though the people who created them specifically said their aspiration was to make something that was unrelated to Chaos corruption on stream, publicallyNurgle feeds off of all despair and disease, he is very much disease and body horror personofied.Malstrain are diseased cult in despair trying to survive.Chaos doesn't care where the emotions that feed it come from, as long as it does.
>>96731496>Nurgle feeds off of all despair and diseaseDid the Necrons birth Nurgle?
>>96731459>orks that got 3Realms of Chaos was way more important than the le funny Ork books, which also included chaos orks, btw> the boardgame with Genestealers on the cover The cover also included chaos androids and the marines were fighting against Chaos. But you don't know it because you never playerd it unlike me>that Medusa V was for some reason focused on chaosspeaking of covers, how many there were in that book?>>96731476See above. In RT there were chaos versions of all those, as they were in that game.
>>96730508Seriously why don't they give orks looted vehicle rules again? It looked like it was mad fun
>>96731495>T10 5W 1+ 3++ terminators in 11th edition
>>96731491people are going to knights, custodes and primarchs at you. it's all over
>>96731476>Chaos Space Marines>Chaos Androids>Chaos Dreadnought>(Chaos) Genestealers
>>96731512No model, no rules.
>>96731496>trying to argue Chaos metaphysics, one of the least written out things in the settingI can poke enough holes in it to make a spaghetti strainer and all you will be able to respond with is "umm Chaos doesn't have to be well-written or make sense, stop!"
>>96731476>The famous chaos xenos, the Orks, the Goblinsyes
>>96731495rip if true>>96731494because iron hands vehicle rules can easily be oppressive, but maybe not this time
>>96731509>race who evolved on a shithole planet getting blasted by radiation>end up as being cancer patients with like life spans of 20 years or less>entire culture even before bio-transferance was centered around the death and resulting despair in their society>even after escaping their home star their lives didn't improve still dying and in despairObviously it would have influenced Nurgle and his creation.Nevermind the fact that Nurgle has always existed within the Warp even before it was "birthed" or created. Just like how Slaanesh existed even before the War in Heaven and influenced eldar to birth it.
>>96731512MONEY ME BOY! BECAUSE I LIKE MONEY!
>>96731359There was an overreaction regarding the swarmlord, more of a fear it would be the start of our "kerrigan", but that fear was proved pointless in the end.People exaggerate what the swarmlord is for shitposting purposes, but he doesn't break nid fluff nor centralises it.Apart from that, the ill reputation of the codex was first and foremost the rules: for starters they were balanced like utter shit by someone who's on record for saying math is an opinion**, and that nerfed tyranids into the ground as revenge for lost games in the previous edition; secondly it was a dramatic shift from the highly customisable unit profiles of the previous incarnations of the codex into stricter profiles, but those profiles grew in number massively, before the 5th ed codex, all these units weren't a thing in normal 40k>tervigon*>tyrannofex*>harpy*>trygon prime>mawloc (you could argue there was the red terror for this though)>tyranid prime*>hive guards>pyrovores>swarmlord>doom of malantai*>parasite of mortrex*>venomthropes>mycetic spore* (drop pod later replaced by the tyrannocite)>ymgarl genestealers*it also added to the 40k roster forge worlds models like the trygon, winged warriors and winged rippers, and that wasn't a normal thing at all*without models at the start, they were added for the joy of converters, which is also why nids have still an impressive presence online in terms of hobbyists with a knack for sculpting and convertingthe fluff was also dense of new info in a way that was different from previous books, and either unrepeated or merely copied afterwards, perhaps with the notable exception of the push to characterise the secondary hive fleets in the 8th edition bookit was one of the worst codexes due to the rules, due to cruddace tyranids suffered from 5th until 8th, staying afloat with one cherrypicked op combo at a time, but it absolutely wasn't a bad codex by other metrics such as fluff and artworks
>>96731535**before the 5th edition codex the meta choice for tyranid termagants was spinefists, plenty of players had dozens or hundreds of them assembled that way, cruddace not only rebalanced the unit option but made it objectively worse in all potential contexts than the fleshborer, and when he was asked about it, shown the math that made spinefists objectively inferior in any and all instances, he replied with that being just his opinion.the positive thing in the termagants ordeal at the very least, was that he reintroduced in the rules the old equipment options (spike rifle and strangleweb) that we finally got bits for in this edition.
>>96731481why dont you let jewtube tell you, bitch!
>>96731518The default was Genestealer Clan with optional Genestealer Chaos Cult rules, so you can stop trying to peddle it like GS were Chaos by default
>>96731516I have 4 heavy lascannons, a siege cannon and heavy weapons teams in my list if that means anything
>>96731543Genestealers should still have chaos cult rules. It'd add more flavor.
>>96731496I'm sorry anon, Chaos is too HUMAN'd now to properly process what little and alien tyranid emotions have, after all alien ichor doesn't even feed Khorne :)And Abaddon is destined to tame all of Chaos and put it under his foot
>>96731542>clicking videos that are GW adsi refuse
>>96731543>you can stop trying to peddle it like GS were Chaos by defaultIt's almost like I put brackets around the Chaos part of Chaos Genestealers for a reason, to indicate that there's Chaos variants of them, just like everything else. Because Chaos was everywhere.
>>96731543>chaos was a side show in old editions!>just because it was in ork and GSC rules, it doesn't mean anything!lol
>>96731554Nah its pretty dumb, stacking an [Evil] template on top of an [Evil] thing is World of Warcraft-tier writing and is genuinely embarrassing.
>>96731379>Literally not a thing in any codex BEFOREWhen do you think behemoth and kraken were defeated?
>>96731562I was just pointing out how it wasn't default flavour at all and was also axed as soon as 2E came out. So much for "older editions" huh?
>>96731568presentation matters, sillythe way 5th codex handled it was quite different in tone and fanfare
>>96731573No, it wasn't, you're running on memes or bias.
>>96730817I fucked it up.
Reminder that if someone is clearly facetious/dishonest, point it out and leave.If someone is so petty as to privilege bad faith over self-reflection, they will not suddenly receive an epiphany.This isn't elementary school, people here are either in their very late teens or well into adulthood, being a faggot online is a life choice and you will not change it.You do not need to convince people that something is true or your opinion has value, as they do not grant anyone or any word value. Things are, or things aren't. Anyone and everyone can reach the same conclusion if it is truth, if they don't they willingly choose not to.Some people are lost, do not lose yourself trying to get to them.
>Lorefag threadI just want to play wargames...
>>96731570>it's not all older editions!>only those that I say so>btw 6e is not old despite having been released more than 20 years agoleast delusional midhammer fag
To the anon that suggested Crimson Fists for my space marines, thank you these guys are significantly more interesting than the chapter I was considering
>>96731593>I just want to play wargames...If that were true then you wouldn't be on 4gooks /40kg/ posting wojaks and basedjaks, you insufferable faggot.
>new Archon being scalped for 70 burgerbucks on eBayHoly fuck, man.
>>96731554Unfortunately gw hates flavour and more than that it hates cross compatibility.
>>96731594What? I just joined the conversation, christ do I really REALLY have to post NTA any time I wanna point something out? Quit lashing out like a moronEither way yes, Chaos GSC aren't really a thing beyond retconned RT fluff & one time Cult Tenebrous was flung into Garden of Nurgle and turned into zombies.
>>96730765>doesn’t think the power-kanabo is the coolest shit out thereAre you gay?
>>96730816Yeah, imagine
>>96731593>>96731598Oh look. Here's you. A few days ago. Same image.
>>96731608>You don't like the dildo stick?>Are you gay?
>>96731553>I have 4 heavy lascannons, a siege cannon and heavy weapons teams in my list if that means anythinggod it keeps getting worse, heavy weapon teams that hit on 5s, meaning they have to be in the open meaning your opponents can, if they go first pop out and blow them off the table before they do anything (unless you order them which means you're wasting orders to get them to hit on 4s
>>96731610>archivefaggotry
>>96731616>the terminal faggotry that you have
>>96730679that banner looks gorgeous
>>96731608It would have been cool for White Scars, for Iron Hands it's just odd and comes out of nowhere. Like an Ultramarine with a katana.
>>96731609It's a legionaire, anon, ultramrines may be roman but not all romans are ultramarines.
>>96731562>Chaosfags so desperate is unironically trying to pretend that Orks and Genestealer models counted as a chaos focusWow
>>96731622He loves his banners.
>>96731593>>96731610>>96731619>same random file name>just facetious baiting and shitpostingthis is a good use of the archive, to out trolls like this faggot
>>96731630banners are great
>>96730831It's only one of possible endings
>>96731629>please forget that CSM and GSC even shared the same heavy weapons sprue in RTno, cope
>>96731635>>96731619>>96731610obsessed
>>96731580Again, the 5th edition codex has a new Hive fleet shows up and the Tau evolving their weapons so fast that the fleet can't keep up. That's retardation on the level of that time Nids invaded a Forge World and the admech out attritioned them by recycling the dead servitors better, which at least was in an Admech codex, so at least it was wank in favour of the faction the codex was being written about.
Anyone buying the clown CP?
>>96731629don't act superior, you xenosfags were arguing from ignorance, saying these things didn't exist and when proven wrong>wow chaosfags trying to act like this was a focus on...Fuck you!
>>96731654no, sounds illegal
>>96731648>Space Marines have plasma guns and Chaos Space Marines have plasma guns so it means that every marine release with plasma guns count as a chaos focusHow is the Year of Chaos treating you mate?
>>96731651>the faggot sperg's out when struck
>>96731610>archivefaggot
>>96731660>xenosfags were arguing from ignorance, saying these things didn't existThey were literally mentioned in the original post. But I guess actually reading might be beyond your capabilities
>>96731654Phrasing, Anon.
>>96731672your retarded idea of Chaos not being important in 40k until 6e because they weren't in a starter set has been proven wrong and retarded.Cope, seethe, and fuck off, xenofag
>>96731672your stupid ass didn't even know eye of terror codex existed
>>96731665lmao, so this sperg has been trolling with the same retarded image for more than a year, and he dares call us obssesed
>>96731654I would love to eat a cheese pizza off of a barely legal clussy
>>96731654I would for my Drukhari but you can't take them in that army anymore
>>96731224He is bronze
>>96731648What do you mean "no"? Also, what's that on the Patriarch's seat?
>>96731665>doesn't understand ritual postingHoly tourist
>>96731629at least orks could have chaos auxiliaries when souping was still a thing, right?
>>96731697yep, modern nidfags do not know that back in the day they were low key a Chaos subfaction
>>96731714>there were rules to have a genestealer cult that was also a chaos cult>that means all genestealers were chaos and their faction was a chaos factiondumb
>>96731678>Making up the point of the opponent because otherwise you know you have nothing Pretty sad. I never said that Chaos didn't exist prior to 6th. I said that Xenos had a much bigger focus. And I was "proved wrong" by a boardgame with Orks and Genestealer models. >>96731679Or maybe I didn't consider a single supplement back in 3rd edition, the same edition that had 3 new xenos armies, as a notable shown of focus. But hey the following global campaign they appeared on the cover despite the campaign being about a free for all with no real focus on any faction. So you also have a cover photo to add to your lists of successes!
>>96731714Entirely this >>96731722, you are arguing in hilariously bad faith
Still haven't decided what to do for the october spooky collage so:>oddObliterators>evenRubrics>dubsGreen stuff abomination
>>96731740Whats your idea for GS abomination?
>>96731740Rubrics it is
>>96731693Actually the App update lets you take Clowns and Corsairs in all Drukhari detachments again now so presumably the upcoming FAQ is going to fix that.
>>96731697>"my lord you're sitting on a precious chaos artifact
Sometimes I wish I lather my PC in holy oils and incense in order to increase her performance
>>96731614Cadian HWT's have heavy and so hit on 4's if you stay still. The detachment I am taking makes all INFANTRY models re-roll ones.
>>96731738You know it's very funny. If chaos really had this much focus would they really need to grasp straws this much? You would think that if chaos was really the big enemy of the game since the beginning they wouldn't need to bring out shared weapon sprues to prove that they existed.
>>96731760why not just do it? tech mana is a thing
>>96731760>picrelGay
>>96731746Masked spider woman daemon made out of black sludge with people drowning in it. She'd have a crown and a red royal cape that turns into blood as it reaches the ground.
>>96731611Not every thing long and black is something your mother should put in her cunt, faggot.
Why doesn't Cypher use the sword?
>>96731627Technically it's a Legionary but you're correct on this. I just think crests and Roman design cues were the wrong words for anon to make his point
>>96731788It's meant for big E, no one else.
>>96730519Tyranids are jobbers though, so at least one of those things isn’t a concern.
>>96731788might be the anathema blade, big E told him to chill for a while still
>>96731793>Tyranids are jobbers thoughOnly according to reddit memes
>>96731770Sometimes I wonder if that's why it's started to slow down on me. I don't use it as much, hardly have time for vidya since there's been changes in my life. I'm sure it's due to parts getting old or something logical, but there are times when I feel that I've neglected a "living" thing.
>>96731801Unfortunately no. See the discussion about the Cruddex in the thread
>>96731801I don’t even have to reach past secondary material to note how easily the Tyranids get deflected. Dawn of War 2 and Space Marine 2 are infamously bad showings for them. It’s patently obvious that Vect let them into the Webway to have someone murdered.
>>96731728>But hey the following global campaign they appeared on the cover despite the campaign being about a free for all with no real focus on any faction. So you also have a cover photo to add to your lists of successes!You are either retarded or a dishonest prick because Eye of Terror as the name suggests, was about the 13th Black Crusade and deciding the fate of Imperium vs the rise of Chaos
>>96731771>autists all about minmaxing and optimization don't want to throw away tools as long as they're performing their function>REEEE GAYYYYkill yourself immediately zoomzoom
>>96731786>Are you gay?>No, are you?>BBC?Why are you asking me those? Are you looking for a friend or something?
>>96730798No they are not. Space Marines are autonomous fast strikers. They main mission is to hit quick and hit hard.Sisters main duties are:- Protection of holy places, pilgrim routes and VIP clergy members- Liquidation of rogue clergy members- Purgation/supression of mutants, rogue psykers and general chaotic chaffTheir equipment and design should represent these roles.
>>96730523In the end only the necrons will survive. We are immortal.Sadly that also means that due to the nids, most if not all biomass will be gone and with it the only way to return to organic life
elves >:(
>>96731817>autists all about minmaxing>Religious faction>all about efficiencyI'm gonna be real, I hope for your sake that I'm actually much older than you.
>>96731815I am talking about Medusa V, and how another chaosfag in the thread tried to pretend that chaos being present on the cover meant that the campaign had a chaos focus. Not beating the "chaosfags can't read" allegations.
>>96731829So you just know nothing about the setting
>>96731822>In the end only the necrons will survive. We are immortal.Nope. They are fucked too for a variety of reasons.
>>96731820Astartes are dudes in power armor with bolters, they are called battle brothers.Sororitas are gals in power armor with bolters, they are called sisters of battle.If you want to get hung up on the details and miss the forest for the trees, be my guest.
>>96731822Only fags don't enjoy being a cool robot skelly anyway
>>96731814>using secondary material in the first placeIDK what compelled you to do that?Either way nids get enough wins in non-secondary materials so as a nid collector I am mildly content
>>96731834I REALLY hope you're a stupid kid. Better be a stupid kid than a stupid adult. But I do suppose retarded adults started of as retarded kids.
>>96731832Medusa was centered around Chaos, too, you dipshit. It's about the Warpstorm arriving to consume the system.Imperial and Eldar wanted to evacuate or stop it.The Tau were there to study it.The Necrons wanted to use the Pylons to stop it.Tyranids and Orks were wild cards.In the end, the Warp consumed the planet but the Imperials managed to evac much of the planets population
>>96731849Hey bud it's okay, read a codex or two to get a feel for the setting and see if it's your kinda thing!
>>96731778>Masked spider woman daemon made out of black sludge with people drowning in it. She'd have a crown and a red royal cape that turns into blood as it reaches the ground.Does she have huge breasts as well?
>>96731822you could have argued that back when necrons were still their 3rd ed selves.but since then they've been nerfed as a threat multiple times.remember when some retard added that all it takes to kill a necron permanently and prevent its reanimation or phase-out was to cut a specific tube in its neck?
>>96731820>Space Marines are autonomous fast strikers. I dont understand how people overlook this aspect so often, space marines are not supposed to win wars on their own but to turn the tide in a battle.That's why they have drop pods to get into key locations to capture important places, kill key targets etc.
>>96731820The primary function of sisters is getting captured and fisted by Wych Cults.
>>96731814DESU both Dawn of War 2 and Space Marine 2 did a very good job of making them threatening despite losing at the end. And they don't even actually lose in SM2, you stop them from winning but they war is still going on.
>>96731855Oh thank god it's a stupid kid
>>96731854>Warpstorm is ChaosWarpstorms are glorified scenery and are not alive.
>>96731854Lol. You are really grasping at straws.
>>96731871There's that projection again!
>>96731871NTA but>Calls things he doesn't like gay>Calls others kidsLol
>>96731857Remember when GW released a two book series with a Necron protagonist which had like six different reasons to stop Necrons from actually reviving?
>>96731875>>96731873You are, dipshit. As the campaign progressed, the daemons of Chaos flooded the world steadily, overrunning the warring factions until they retreated or were left stranded on the planet.It aws a race against time and the loser got nom'ed by daemons.
>>96731891I guess for what you are used to, being used as a glorified scenery hazard is actually a big shown
Hey Archivebro, do you have my drunk tangent about humanity switching sexual dimorphism in the next couple hundred thousand years? I still think about that post like once a week. For context: the thread question that day was>post your army and your kinkand virtually half of the kinks were some submissive shit, which led me to form the hypothesis in question.pic unrelated
>>96731879I mean you could be a grown ass man who acts and talks like an immature faggot. Akram's razor and all.>>96731887I can call you gay if you want.
>>96731897Actually, Fall of Medusa is a microcosm of the 40K galaxy's fate.
>>96731728>>96731769>>96731832>>96731875>>96731897You don't need to be a chaosfag to see how you're all delusional and coping about Chaos being the big bad of 40k no matter how many times xenos were in starter boxes.
>Go on family trip to a used bookstore>Find 8E Craftworlds codexPleasant
Finished two blightlords today, starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I gotta practice clothing I'm afraid, it looks rather sloppy.
>>96731900Stillmania is the best filter. How people react to it tells you everything you need to know.
>>96731903these are the kind of idiots mad at videogames like Space Marine 1 and 2 for revealing that the real threat was Chaos all along.
>>96731814>Dawn of War 2 and Space Marine 2 are infamously bad showings for them.in the first nids are playable and have a victory situation like all othersin the seconds nids as an invasion force aren't actually defeated at all, despite the overdramatic synaptic backlashes added for gameplay reasonstheir introduction is about wiping out a deathwatch team with gargoyles, gaunts, rippers and one warriora carnifex practically kill THE movie marine protagonistthe virus bioweapon that was this insanely vital mission for the deathwatch team only served to slow them by a few hours or daysthe defeat of the hive tyrant, if it was a poor showing for the nids, wouldn't have involved dropping a monument on top of it to wound and isolate and then gang on with multiple players, it would have been an epic 1vs1 with the protagonist at full strength and again, its death doesn't spell the end of the invasion, despite the narrative then moving towards the chaos threat, the tyranid invasion is still absolutely ongoing and winning if you take this as a poor showing it only underlines how certain fans are unable to view anything without some absurd amount of bias so they can shitpost about anime power levels or vs battlers as if their favourite thing winning was a personal thing
>>96731903you are the only one that keep mentioning starter boxes dude.
>>96731455>Coping this hard
Should 40k feature more characters with big witch hats?
>>96731921this you?>>96731270>>96731279
>>96731923I think it's cute that you lose on your own made up ground.Skulls are not the SM equivalent to fleurs de lys, but if they were sisters would still have more lmao.Keep yapping!
>>96731930Yes, but only for Eldar.
>>96731914>the tyranid invasion is still absolutely ongoing and winningNids are and always will be the least significant xenos, no matter how many planets they eat.Just NPC bugs, jobbers, and plot devices for the real protagonists of the setting.
>>96731933those posts mention the starter boxes amount forty other things. Meanwhile you can't avoid but mention them every other post you make. We know that Chaos is the big bad now, just accept that instead of trying to gaslight people about Orks models thirty years ago being a chaos release in disguise.
>>96731942>Skulls are not the SM equivalent to fleurs de lysThey are>>96731942>sisters would still have more lmao.Nope, how's my cock feel in your mouth?
>>96731950Can you at least tell me that you are merely shitposting and aren't genuinely so far removed from how a sane person engages with fiction and entertainment?
>>96731901>Akram's razorYou are a dumb gorilla nigger, the most vantablack gorilla nigger of all time.
>>96731952Chaos has always been the big bad. It's baked in the backstory of the setting since the start, you delusional xenofag.You were the one bringing up starter boxes, cherry picking releases, and pretending 6e was an anomaly
>>96731950>least significant >sporting most extensive and well-supported model range of all xenos only rivaled by maybe Necrons>cross-kit compatability>unlimited posability with ball-jointed limbs in the age of weird CAD offcuts>with bespoke Killteam>and beautiful Necromunda models tooIt seems my superiority has caused some controversy.
>>96731964lol, you're the insane sperg pretending that nids are going to "win" in 40k
>>96731955>they areThen why do sisters also have skulls? Are there a subtype of skulls?>retard addicted to being wrong is obsessed with trying to establish "dominance"What being fatherless does to a motherfucker.
>>96731970Could a dumb gorilla nigger type this with his feet?OH SHIT
>>96731976funny that you mention Necromunda. I guess their gangs having their own game, and multiple mini ranges, means they're more significant in 40k going by your retarded reasoning
>>96731976It's just marinefag cope for getting dogshit primaris models. "Well at least we're the protagonists of the setting!!!" lmao
>>96731976Have an expanded version
>>96731988>Well at least we're the protagonists of the settingThat's Chaos though.
>>96731971>>96731971>It's baked in the backstory of the setting since the start,Nope, it got added in two supplements shared with WHFB>You were the one bringing up starter boxesNope. See >>96731171. >cherry picking releasesI listed most mayor releases of the first 5 editions, meanwhile you focused on a card game and a boardgame with more grots models than chaos space marine models. >and pretending 6e was an anomalyIt wasn't an anomaly, it was a change of direction. I guess once your gaslighting has been exposed all that remains are lies. Pretty sad.
>>96731988perfect example of how a lot of the anti-primaris hate is not organic, and instead driven by envious xenofag shills
>>96732007>more copelmao
>>96732007nta but I'm a marine fag and I dislike primaris on all levels.I've been trying to make them work for nearly 10 years now.
>>96731987>This thing being another game means that they are significant in this game What
>>96731988They would do that even if their releases weren't shit, it's an intrinsic behaviour of the type of spergs that secondary memes hook.
>>96731976This is all just cope.
>>96731979>>96731955Both of you are WRONG. WINGED skulls are astartes' fleur de lys. Regular skulls are just Imperial fashion. Now go to a motel or shut up.
>>96732002>two supplements shared with WHFBCo-written at the same time as RT, and the first chaos marine was released even earlierYou don't understand how important these books were. Literal cut off game content sold as day 0 DLC in modern terms>I listed most mayor releases of the first 5 editionbullshit, you cherry picked a biased list while ignoring on purpose stuff like Witchhunters and the focus on the Inquisition since 2e>I guess once your gaslighting has been exposed all that remains are lies. Pretty sad.projection and a confession of being disingenous
>>96731995Brain window is such a slutty thing.
>>96732026You need to be a special kind of retard to care who's the protagonist, jobber or whatever else in lore that literally exists only to sell more plastic models. Just buy whatever you think it's cool
>>96732038>Both of you are WRONG. WINGED skulls are astartes' fleur de lysNo, fuck off.
>>96732029NTA and you can argue about lore and narrative but from a model standpoint Tyranids are one of the factions if not the faction in the best spot in 40k. Marines arguably are the one in the best spot but a lot of Marine players will disagree with that.
>>96731900>do you have my drunk tangent about humanity switching sexual dimorphism in the next couple hundred thousand yearsUnless women turn into 3 meter tall amazons with giant breasts, thick strong thighs and wide hips, then I don't want it.
>>96732039I see that after trying to pretend that Orks models were a chaos focus now you switched to Imperial releases being a chaos focus
>>96732057>btfo>swiches tactics to nonsense that nobody saidcope, nidfag
>>96732066>>swiches tactics to nonsense that nobody said>while ignoring on purpose stuff like WitchhuntersOther lies?
>>96732048>Tyranids are one of the factions if not the faction in the best spot in 40kNo, that's still marines.Even most of tyranid refresh in 10th was useless shit.Nobody asked for shit like the barb gaunts and neurogants. Then you got low effort shit like lictors but small, lictor but psychic and then a venom crawler reskin.Only things that mattered and were an actually good additio were the screamer killer and the norn emissary.
>>96731900>humanity switching sexual dimorphism in the next couple hundred thousand years?In a couple hundred thousand years we are either going post singularity and be basically unrecognisable as humanity or we are bombing ourselves back into the stone age, in which case the original sexual dimorphism is coming back with a vengeance
>>96732082Read the rest of the post. I agree on being Marines, but a lot of Marine players would disagree with that because Primaris, because of bad updates or because of the stuff that got squatted.
>>96732069shut the fuck up, xenonigger
>>96732101>Post 2 Imperial Codexes>Totally chaos bro!
>>96732105>Chaos was not a focus in 3rd or the big bad reeeeeshut up, xenonigger
>>96732082>Only things that mattered and were an actually good additio were the screamer killerThe screamer killer was sheer nostalgia bait and a terrible kit. A new Carnifex kit consisting in a recut of the old one with less moldlines and with the fucking chimneys on the back that don't need forced alignment would have been far superior
>>96732082>Then you got low effort shit like lictors but smallLiterally were in the 3E codex and share great design cues with DeathleaperYou're just a mad nid hater
Cool table terrain I saw on reddit
>>96732112>Xenos gets 3 new armies>Imperium gets 2 new codexes>Chaos gets a global campaign that they loseThe whole fact that you need to bring out Loyalist codexes instead of, you know, actual chaos material speaks a lot.
>>96732125go back
>>96731930Don't post my wife in these shitty threads
Remember, the price of freedom is constant vigilance.
>>96732136Pound sand retard
>>96732125Lack L shaped ruins cool but I fucking hope those containers are 3d printed or recasts
>>96730519What's Vect up to?
>>96732140I pound your mother every night you retarded redditor
>>96730519What's the Malys lore? Is it mentioned she's allied to Yvraine or are the Ynnari totally unmentioned?
>>96732153>>96732145The lore about Malys and Vect is that both of them get very close to fixing things in Cumrag but they keep trying to out-keikaku one another which causes all of those plans to fail instead of allying
>>96732128yeah, it says that you're a retard that confuses factions being playable with their relevance in the setting.Also funny how some xenos sometimes had to wait several editions for new codexes (like necrons), while CSM got 2 in 3rd and only has skipped 4e in their entire history (they still got Index Astartes and Chapter Approved, lol)
>>96732082>Nobody asked for shit like the barb gaunts and neurogants. Then you got low effort shit like lictors but small, lictor but psychic and then a venom crawler reskin.They're cool additions, the barbgaunts in particular are essentially an update of the niche of the very old small biovore because biovores changed design and size. Similarly the "small lictors" are to fill in the fact that lictors have been flip flopping between being loners and broods, so now we've got a small brood and the lictor can be the loner.The neurogaunts stem from a very popular upgrade for gaunt broods in the old editions that gave them a synaptic leader, but turned into a unit.The venomcrawler is shit, I agree on that, but fortunately it was ETB padding for the starter and gw didn't waste a multipart kit on it.You don't know shit about nids, especially since you listed this rendition of the skrillex as a good addition.
>New Iron Hands character>Surveys the battlefield with drones >Is called fucking VARCAM ON AVERNIISCORE SOME FACKING GOALS
>>96730583It's funny to me that Kheradruakh is weirdly important in the lore; he's the stinger for the Path of the Dark Eldar trilogy, he seems to be the only actual threat to Vect, he's the only Xenos named character to ever fight a Primarch, he fought Helbrecht, and now this. All this for a mysterious weirdo who just likes to kill
>>96732125neat, but the giant golden statue of a warrior looks out of place in a random Munitorum open air warehouse
>>96732138Leandros was right and time will prove him right; the voice titus hears at the end of space marine 2 isn't the emperor, it's nemeroth's.
>>96732137Your wife is stupid anon
>>96732184Leandros becoming a Chaplain and STILL being suspiscious about Titus is genuinely good grimdark. It perfectly captures what 40k is about
>>96732184>Leandros adheres to the codex>Titus tells him to think outside the box>Leandros goes against the codex>people are mad he didn't follow the codex
>>96732166Why does Cegorach not simply lock them in a closet till they fuck their differences out?
>>96732208Vect has even managed to dodge GW's model makers, Cegorach has no chance
>>96732197codex says to report suspected corruption to chaplaincy before the inquisition
>>96732182Was my first thought too
>>96732197Leandros wasn't right because the Codex says nothing about selling out your buds to the Inquisition and reaffirmed the long term necessity of marines in the Imperium and their own strict command structure. He should have been brought to the chapter to be investigated by their librarians and chaplains. Space Marines are supposed to be smarter than humans, they should be able to investigate the incident and make their own conclusions. Especially... ESPECIALLY... one as influential and powerful as the Ultramarines. He quite literally goes against every Ultramarine captain in history, ever single one learns when to deviate from the Codex on the battlefield. Including fucking their primarch himself he gives one of his sons a pat on the back for suggesting this.
>>96732214What if a chaplain isn't available
>>96732197Why did Titus ask Leandros to think outside the box?
>>96732188Thats why I love her.
>>96732193Leandros handed Titus over to a guy who liked talking to demons and subsequently got possessed and purged by the Gray Knights. Why was he suspicious of Titus and not the Inquisitor buddying up with demons? Because he thought he was smarter than his captain. It was a mistake. That does not mean that wasn't skillful, brave or there wasn't a better role for him to serve with his idiosyncrasies. This isn't just some grunt, this is a soldier that took the better part of a century to select, train and successfully survive the transhumanist process. There is a limit to the censor the will be applied to someone so valuable.
Do you ever play games against yourself? Do you have fun?
>>96732245[X] remove hat
>>96732250What the fuck is going on here
>>96732268Typical alpha legion shenannigans.
>>96731979>Then why do sisters also have skullsSame reason space marines have crosses>Schizo cock garglingI accept your concession, just let me know if you want me to put my skulls on my balls while you juggle them in your mouth
>>96732193Leandros taking the role of chaplain isn't grimdark, it's logicaltake for a moment the point of view of the ultramarines in command: they heard the report of leandros, perhaps chastised him from acting by calling the inquisition, but then they heard nothing from the inquisition, if not that titus was being held for further questioning, ultramarines aren't so quick to judge the inquisition corrupt, so they must have considered this silence or captivity as validation that there was indeed something wrong with titus, thus making leandros appear as having good eye for judging corruption, initiating him on the role that best serves that eye, and then he's had hundreds of years to prove his role and he reached chaplaincy of the second company, so it's not without merit.titus coming back doesn't suddenly cancel the hundreds of years of straight, if a bit zealous, service from leandros.his suspicion in titus is a character flaw, because it's a conflict of his self righteousness, but it's still absolutely valid, and even then despite said suspicion he's not been acting malicious towards him, he's been watching him as both judge and carer, giving him a genuine chance instead of condemning him again, he was at his bedside since the rubicon surgery.
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>>96732286>Leandros taking the role of chaplain isn't grimdark, it's logicalIt's not at all logical and Leandros should have never become a chaplain.Once he, a rookie returns alone from a mission and the chapter hears that the 1st company veteran is dead and the 2nd company captain got taken by the inquisition, Leandros would be lucky to even get promoted to a sergeant.He'd instantly get subjected to the librarius for questioning. Questioning which means where they will forcefully scan his mind where he can't twist or even hide what he did to Titus. And they would see Leandros selling out his superior officer but also being a codex humping twat while also then being a complete tool and a hypocrite who then fails to adhere to the fucking codex despite his wankery about before hand.
BOOBIES
>>96732047No he's 100% right and you're 100% a faggot
>>96732254You will NOT remove hat
>>96732339fug u
>>96732284>SM skulls are fleurs de lys>but skulls are crossesAnd who makes these rules exactly?Crosses for SMs are the symbol of veterans.For sisters of battles? Well more fleurs de lys.>schizo cock gay balls sucky suckyYawnSisters are female space marinesSisters have a baked in nun/joan of arc identity that space marines lackMarines are lacking on purpose, their symbols being generic, also on purpose and either work with any subfaction or can be straight up ignored, while Sisters' whole identity is being space joan of arc nuns.I don't care about you or what you think, last (you).
>>96732227>"Hey, [marine chapter], are you tainted by Chaos?">"No. We've investigated ourselves and found no taint."Emperor created the Inquisition with the authority over all for a reason.
>>96732334Get a dog if you crave attention this much
>>96732346inquisition doesn't have authority over first founding chapters lorelet
>>96732325>what he did to Titusthey would only find that he said the truth, or what he considers the truth: he saw the first company captain touched by the warp in an explicable way that warranted scrutiny and requested that scrutiny where was availablehe would undoubtedly be tested severely for overstepping his role, but again, if the chapter checked on the inquisitor, they would have found him saying titus deserves to be in custody, making titus appear as having overstepped his role, but having done so correctly
>>96732325In probing his mind they'd also find that Leandros did his deed in good faith as well as all that he witnessed Titus do.
>>96732352first founding chapters don't have special authority
>>96732362Ohh you're retarded
Leandros is Alpha Legion.
>>96732325anon, just a few years after those events, Ventris (4th company captain) was sent in a suicide mission to the Eye of Terror for a waaaay lesser codex transgression than handling raw warp energy with his bare hands like Titus.
>>96732355>making titusLeandros
>>96731529I'm the only one ITT who noticed this image was AI.
>>96731270>>in Epic 40k, Chaos have to share an expansion book with Eldar because they aren't important enough to have their ownI thought Eldar (Biel-tan) came in with Baran Siegemasters (og krieg) and feral orks.
It's very simpleCHAOS = irrelevant factionSPACE MARINES = the heart of the settingTherefore CHAOS as a whole doesn't matter but CHAOS SPACE MARINES do
>>96732381Baran Siegemasters kill team when?
>>96731814>>96731863DoW2 had a weakened, starving remnant of a Hive Fleet attacking. It was dangerous enough that Eldar deemed system lost and predicted said nids recovering. So they brought Orks there to slow Nids down, so there is any resistance at all defending this system and wanted to blow up Imperial planet to damage Tyranid ships nearby, deny them biomass and meanwhile extract hidden Craftworld. In a base game you only delay and further weaken it and make an opening for Gabriel to arrive and finally start properly fighting it. Those Tyranids then stay there anyway for as long as Aurelian Crusades lasts so iirc like 2 decades. And Nids still can win in their Retribution campaignIn SM2 you don't even defeat them, at all. You pivot from fighting against them for a while in Titus' story, in the very last mission which is the only mission not against them, but then in Operations set after Campaign war against Nids still lasts. In fact Imperials act like Kadaku at least is lost anyway and destined to be devoured and they can't do anything about it. Next still unreleased mission is again against those same nids who now started to take over Imperial ships. You are tasked with reclaiming one of them, but turns out it's impossible and you have to blow it up.The question is what the fuck Tsons are still doing there after campaign. They were only there because Imurah wanted to btfo smurfs and he died. It's not even like in SM1 where Chaos villain main goal was this Necron artifact. They should fuck off now
>>96732346Weird how many Inquisitor's have been blammed by marines then, you would think they would all have been rounded up and executed by now. Hmm, curious.
>>96732268Alpha Legion vs Alpha LegionJust as planned, and The Alpha Legion will win.
>>96732377starlink tribute
>>96732288>Titus>88>chaos star on his collarI don't know why, but he could be heretical
>>96732346Inquisitorial authority is "theoretically" limitless, and yet they get stonewalled, manipulated, denied or outright killed by other Imperials all the time.
All new Combat Patrol boxes are limited. The previous Combat Patrol wave was all "Available while stocks last" as well. What kind of new scam is this?
>>96732390Nah CSM don't matter either
>>96732413whales that buy boxes but don't actually paint stuff are the main source of income. fomo is a great way to spur them to buy stuff
>>96732212>"Hah Malys you merely fucked my clone to death, take that bitch!"Why is he like this
>>96732413Only the marine chapter boxes are. They updated the other articles to remove that line.
>>96732214Who came up with this headcanon anyway?
>>96732344>but skulls are crossesNo one said this ESL>Sisters have a baked in nun/joan of arc identitySecondary take, the nun and joan of arc identity is mostly aesthetic, like astartes have a knight/legionary aesthetic, which doesn't reflect ther oder's culture much if at all. Joan of arc wasn't a blood thirsty berserker like the sisters of the bloody rose are. The only difference is magnitude. Space marines keep getting new chapters and new chapter gimmicks, if SoB got the same attention you'd seem the same thing. Of course nothing is really stopping you from doing it yourself.>their symbols being generic, also on purpose and either work with any subfaction Wrong again secondary tranny, pic related>I don't care about you or what you think, last (you).I accept your final concession.Tranny
>>96732393>The question is what the fuck Tsons are still doing there after campaign.Maybe trying to salvage the situation and vying for control as a new leader emerges from the conflict? who knows if they're cohesive behind the scenes.
>>96732413Fuck GW, as always.Combat patrols and other bundle boxes's intention is always to sell stocks.That's why you tend to see boxes with one or two "undesirable" or "old" kit.For instance: when the new cadians dropped, the combat patrol was made of the new cadians, pretty straightforward:- cadian cmd squad- 2x cadian shock troops- 1x sentinel- 1x field ordnanceNew models -> Sell new models.Then that box was replaced by?- cadian cmd squad- 2x attilan rough riders- kasrkinsI think you can guess which in that box were not selling like hot cakes.Everytime you see a box like this, it's for that purpose: get rid of stock.
>>96732352>Source(s): Dude, trust me.
>>96732168>chaosfags don't even know the codexes of his own factionL O L>He is so starved of actual releases that he finally gave up in trying to bring up Chaos material and now he's trying to shift the argument to not all xeno codexes have had codexes every single edition, despite them still getting multiple times their own releases
>>96732410Absolute authority doesn't mean absolute ability.
>>96732460This doesn't say what you think it says
>>96732355>they would only find that he said the truth, or what he considers the truthThat's not at all how psykers work.Psykers can and will be able to scour your entire mind and be able to actually SEE the truth of things and what you saw instead of the subjective bullshit you are peddling.You can't hide shit from a psyker at all, nevermind the fact that psykers are capable of manipulating your mind in such a way where they manipulate and change your very mind where you tell the truth yourself without hiding it or obscuring it.No matter how you spin it, Leandros becoming a chaplain is stupid and only reason why the devs did it was to create some cheap drama and make a cheap antagonist.
>>9673241311th is going to redo "combat patrol" as a new game with new sets
>>9673241050% of the time the "other Imperial" is another Inquisitor from a different subfaction
Reading you idiots discussing characters and events in media like they're real people and things that happened makes me wonder if you understand that it's imaginary. All that's required for media is an amount of plausibility. There is no objective truth to be argued or discovered from (literally contradictory) text.
>>96732286They just made him a chaplain because they knew it’s shut him up for a decade or two while he served as a Judiciar.
>>96732534The lack of objective truth is precisely WHY it’s fun to argue about.
>>96732534>talks about others misreading into things>misreads into things
>>96732325It makes sense given that he has a knack for sniffing out potential corruption and even as starter chaplain you go through rigorous training (and since sm1 supposedly takes few years before primaris rollout he might've not dodged having to be judiciar for 100 years first) and shadowing older chaplain that likely choose him
>>96732534
>>96732579>throwing autistic shitfits over irrelevant lore garbage>funI mean you do you but I'd rather paint some miniatures in that time instead
>>96732593Is your stank ass a matter of great concern or matter of small concern?
>>96732610Yes.
>>96732534>nd will be able to scour your entire mind and be able to actually SEE the truth of things and what you saw instead of the subjective bullsThis. Holy shit.
this looks stupid
>>96732628this looks cool
>>96732628brave words for someone in within 24"
>>96732588post your models with timestamp
>>96732413It's called FOMO
>>96732413That's not saying what you think it is
>>96732677It says exactly what I think it says.
They should bring back bfg but like, with gundams, and type shit.
>>96732628I like it. Though I am partial to vehicles. I often think ti myself that I should have just gotten into model tanks, would have been far cheaper
>>96732534>why do you care and argueYou wouldn't get it.
>>96732246>Leandros handed Titus over to a guy who liked talking to demonshow could he have known about that?
>>96732812He could have looked at the Lexicanum profile
>>96732325Leandros wasn't a rookie, he was in the company command squad.
>didn't get a single hit on the Donut Steel bingo cardheh, nothin' personnel kid
Wooooow gay as fuck
>>96732834You know you have to share it nowTell us how you managed to dodge it all
>>967328392nd row, 3rd from the left circled looks like he might have had a stroke with that drooping mouth
>>96732839but enough about you
>>96732839>Look mom I posted my stale bait again
>>96732872>look mom I fed the trolls again
>>96732852>gave them an impossible task to accomplish>break their knee caps before they even settle a home world>see how long they survive
>>96730502Fuck off, gulliman.
>>96732852Xenos factions
Reading the new Necron novelSo far>worldbuilding>worldbuilding>worldbuilding>small fight scene resolved in half a page>worldbuildingI miss bolterporn...
>>96731910Not to out myself but I can't imagine anyone ever disagreeing with Stillmania. It is at once both unwaveringly hardline and traditional but also magnanimous and flexible. It majors in the majors and minors in the minors, as the saying goes. What is there to dispute in the Codex Stillman?
>>96732852Post the card so I can see if mydudes pass
>>96732936My only problem with it is gloss varnishing my models. I won’t do it.
>Drukhari pre-order got delayed and won't arrive until next weekWhat is the fucking point of preordering anything if I could just go to the LGS and pick them up off the shelf sooner than GW can deliver it to me?
As this thread's in autosage, is now a good time to put in some QDDTOT shit or should I wait until a new, fresh thread is made?
>>96732984>also takes last image post
>>96732933This time Necron can actually act like Necron or the author stripped away everything that they can do like in Twice Dead King?
>>96732812The point is he was literally inexperienced and stupid. Any UM captain and Calgar himself would be right to be wary of and suspicious towards inquisitors. Calgar literally said "great was my wrath when I learned of your detention at the hands of the Inquisition. We spent decades searching for you." When the thing you did causes your top officer known for ultrasmashing to say his wrath was great you fucked up. Simple as. Calgar didn't say "your arrest was reasonable and made sense to me".
>>96732933>Read NPC faction's book>It's boringWow, shocker.
>>96732936OP here. Love Stillmania, but a lot of people don't do 40k the same way or the same reasons.There are a lot of people, here included, who don't like hobbying; painting, assembling, is just a chore, an extra step for them to play the tabletop.And the tabletop? Just a game, a way to socialize or an occasion to win.A while ago I posted the stillmania meme a couple of times, and most people said it had to be a joke. There are a lot of faggots here, but not that much.In short: it's great, doesn't mean people agree.
>>96733012Tbh it's been 100 years. Leandros probably redeemed himself and proved himself in that time. I still think he's Alpha Legion.
>>96731512GW hates kitbashing and cross-army compatibility because it 'steals sales' even when it would create more sales.>want drop pods for Iron Warriors>can't get drop pods because there are no rules>buy corsairs box for my dark eldar-corsairs-harlequins army>can't use corsairs anymoreIt's just dumb. GW is dumb. Corsairs are also one of the biggest wastes of potential since GW seems to actively hate them, removed the anhrathe keyword from a bunch of Outcasts and won't sell prince yriel.
>>96733017post your stillmania inspired 40k army. not even asking for photos, post your list you've been playing with for the past 20 years
>>96732933At least it's not about homosexual jobbers and afro american warlocks.
>>96730882Oh you finished it up, hell yheah
>>96733020see >>96732246Marines of course have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes and grow. They are literally too valuable to decommission after a mistake. Second party is full retardation though.
>>96733027No, I said a while ago that I would never post here.
>>96733017I literally never even heard of someone actually following Stillmania. Not even Stillman. Some like it as a concept, but still don't follow it.
>>96733036>yeah stillmania is based and the only way to do 40k and the people here in 40kg are subhumans who don't even do 40k correctly>what no I don't have a stillmania army of course notOkay.
>>96730882>using contrasts for vehiclesnot a particularly good idea
>>96733045This is why you should never, EVER, argue with anyone here. Vast majority of people are either larpers or shitposters
>>96733043>literallyA bit off topic but this word is the equivalent to the bright colors on a tropical frog.>not even stillmanI suggest you learn about Stillman, for a start.
I fucked up the previous thread link and deleted the thread, someone else can make it.
>>96733058Damn idiot!
>>96733045>>96733054As I said there are a lot of faggots here.You're free to post yours, fellas
>>96733060shut the fuck up decalnigger
>>96733060Gomen...
>>96733055No, this time is literally literally. I am simply not counting people that claim anonymously they do on 4chan but then refuse to provide proofs in any way. Do you know about someone who followed Stillmania?
>>96733035I imagine Leandros got punished for it somehow but he had 100 years and the Indomitus Crusade to prove himself. He's also a Primaris now which means he most likely got as fucked up as Titus doing something heroic and had to be primarisified (?). Him still being suspicious of Titus is the suspicious part. Then again Ultramarines are the most common Chaos Space Marines besides the Traitor Legions and Titus has some weird connection/resistance to the warp which is unnatural.
>>96733078>wellofcourseIknowhimhe'sme.gif
>>96733089Cool. What is your Stillmania army?
>>96733099>>96733099>>96733099Okay its the correct previous thread this timeNobody else went and made one so I did it again
>>96733096Already said I won't post anythin'
>>96733080>I imagine Leandros got punished for it somehow but he had 100 years and the Indomitus Crusade to prove himself.Which didn't even happen.The very ending of Space Marine 2 ends with Leandros dramatically revealing himself to Titus and what he says to Titus right after receiving the laurels was just "If you ever fail, and WHEN you do so, I will kill you myself". Which was just thinly veiled threat for Titus because Leandros is pissed that Titus didn't get killed after Graia and he still views Titus as being corrupt despite both Calgar and Tigurius himself screening Titus and looking through his head for any possible signs of corruption.And guess what else? After the ceremony where Titus receives the laurels, Calgar tells him that he has a new assigment and the Chaplain himself, only one present who is Leandros, recommended Titus for the said mission.And do you know what that mission is? Because we've seen it.It's the secret levels episode where Titus goes alongside 4 other ultramarines get sent to the Chaos planet where 3 of the other marines get outright killed by the daemon while Titus who is the only one resistant to the daemon's bullshit kills it and barely survives.Leandros straight up signed Titus up for a suicide mission to get rid of him.Leandros didn't change for the better, he just became worse.
>>96733111I'll keep literally never even knowing about someone who followed Stillmania then
>>96733080Allegedly according to the devs Calgar sent Leandros down the path of a Chaplain because it would make him read something else besides the codex. Judiciar’s also have a vow of silence, meaning that until Leandros would have proven himself worthy enough to become a Chaplain he would have to shut the fuck up.
>>96733130space marines aren't bitches who cry about suicide missions, it's their whole jobleandros was right since titus completed it so what are we even complaining about
>>96733273They have hard and dangerous jobs but their job isnt to literally just kill themselves for nothing
>>96733281that's why it's called a suicide mission, not suicideleandros didn't invent the mission, ultramarines command deemed it important and leandros recommended titus to it, and he was right to do so
