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Can I Play With Madness Edition

Previous: >>96759580

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed) (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What is your favorite alt win-con card? (Coalition Victory type cards)
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>faggot keeps making threads early so he can put UB and SL in the OP
It’s so tiresome
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>>96764348
TQ: It counts. I did it so I won
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>>96764353
We all collectively ditched your retarded rule when you kept letting threads 404 and hit 151 images for an hour.
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>>96764364
This didn’t happen by the way
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>TQ
Shinryu or Darksteel Reactor.
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>>96764371
Doesn't count without the image
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>>96764353
Iron Maiden is based and you are not.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96764364
Note how you don't at all deny why you made the OP?
>>96764388
SLs and UB are cringe and so are you
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>>96764404
I wish /xs/ had people this autistic about making threads. Maybe it wouldn't have like 30 sumo generals at once.
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That pedophile weeb horse game will get a Secret Lair
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>>96764430
I doubt that game will be relevant in 3 years
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>>96764433
Then the Secret Lair shall be in 3 years. You already sound like a member of WotC marketing, apply to work there if you don’t already
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>>96764436
i just think you're a retard who thinks new sl's and licensed ub shit is done in weeks when it literally takes years
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>>96764430
>>96764436
Real Schizo hours
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>>96764443
There is a K-Pop Demon Hunters SL announced, when did that air?
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Megabonk Secret Lair
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Respond niggers
>>96763549
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>>96763549
I think it would count, you're in control of the creature until it hits the graveyard I believe
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>>96764499
>Teysa affects a creature's own “when this creature dies” triggered abilities as well as other triggered abilities that trigger when that creature dies. Such triggered abilities start with “when” or “whenever.”
you get two triggers.
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>>96764348
>TQ: What is your favorite alt win-con card? (Coalition Victory type cards)
Easy.
Also easy to pull off in a lifegain deck.
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>>96764587
this seems like a turn 3 win with hashaton
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Pretty sure this doesn't work the way I want but just making sure. Ball Lightning (and all it's copy cats) all say
>At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice this creature.
That means *any* end step, yeah? So after they get sac'd on my end step, another round of priority hits, I use pic rel to bring it back before end of my turn, but then it'll have to get sac'd on the next player's turn, right? It doesn't just stick around until *my* next end step?
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>>96764628
you are correct. there are, however, "at the beginning of the NEXT end step" triggers on some things, that would work how you want. those are typically tokens though.
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>>96764348
>TQ
I recently found this really cool card that says if you would draw a card when you have no library, you win instead! Isn't that epic? It's great game design.
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>>96764499
Why would it not? You probably shouldn't play that deck if basic death triggers are that hard for you to understand. Aristocrats can take a bit of brainpower with all the triggers when it pops off.
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>>96764669
Why are you upset?
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>>96764715
Not related to thoracle combos but universes beyond made me basically quit the game this week. Just building PreDH bullshit to play with my buddies but Im selling my newer cards now. I guess I'm a bit upset about the direction of my favorite game, sure. Any sane person is a little bit.
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>>96764792
Good. Fuck off.
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>>96764792
>Any sane person is a little bit.
That's why you get attacked for expressing such opinions because insane people can't understand.
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How long until I can make a Ultimate Showdown deck with all official cards?
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>>96764792
This, like all things, will pass, anon. We're going to look back on this in 10 years and wonder what they were thinking with the sudden and really aggressive glut of UB sets before they flopped and dropped it for the next stupid fad.
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>>96764858
>We're going to look back on this in 10 years and wonder what they were thinking with the sudden and really aggressive glut of UB sets before they flopped and dropped it for the next stupid fad.

Not them, but that assumes it'll flop. They can print 10 spiderman sets, so long as they get 1 FF or LOTR that makes bezos bucks
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>>96764879
No, they can kill off the fanbase who buys from them. If they drive enough people to proxying with all this slop, they're fucked. And proxy quality continues to grow more and more plus is becoming more accepted in the mainstream player community
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>>96764991
On a side tangent, the foil proxies I've seen are still very questionable.
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>>96764991
If we get there I'll be very happy and proud of our community. But we still have a flood addicted goys ripping packs for special edition, extra sloppy versions of cards because they have a gambling problem.
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>>96765032
Magic the gambling is an addiction masquerading as a card game.
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>>96764836
I guess we gotta wait for the Chuck Norris secret lair. Or maybe the Walker, Texas Ranger UB slopfest.
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please redpill me on Selesnya commanders

its the color combination i loathe the most and i need some inspiration
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>>96765201
Just play Sythis and jerk it in your corner while doing the thing and drawing the card.
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Guys, what do you think? It is Budget Shorikai Stax

Commander

1 Shorikai, Genesis Engine

Creatures (9)

Drannith Magistrate · Lavinia, Azorius Renegade · Archon of Emeria · Ethersworn Canonist · Hushbringer · Hushwing Gryff · Containment Priest · Containment Construct · Hullbreaker Horror

Planeswalkers (4)

Dovin, Hand of Control · Narset, Parter of Veils · Tezzeret the Seeker · Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh

Instants (16)

Swords to Plowshares · Path to Exile · Rapid Hybridization · Resculpt · March of Otherworldly Light · Generous Gift · Counterspell · Dovin’s Veto · Swan Song · An Offer You Can’t Refuse · Negate · Silence · Dramatic Reversal · Whir of Invention · Commit // Memory · Narset’s Reversal

Sorceries (8)

Supreme Verdict · Farewell · Austere Command · Approach of the Second Sun · Fabricate · Reshape · Sevinne’s Reclamation · Dance of the Manse

Enchantments (9)

Rule of Law · Deafening Silence · Aura of Silence · Blind Obedience · Propaganda · Imprisoned in the Moon · Mystic Remora · Out of Time · Drake Haven

Artifacts (22)

Sol Ring · Arcane Signet · Azorius Signet · Talisman of Progress · Fellwar Stone · Thought Vessel · Mind Stone · Moonsnare Prototype · Basalt Monolith · Isochron Scepter · Voltaic Key · Unwinding Clock · Pithing Needle · Torpor Orb · Cursed Totem · Skullclamp · Smuggler’s Copter · Imposter Mech · Cultivator’s Caravan · Peacewalker Colossus · Nautiloid Ship · Skysovereign, Consul Flagship

Lands (32)

Command Tower · Exotic Orchard · Prairie Stream · Irrigated Farmland · Port Town · Glacial Fortress · Seachrome Coast · Deserted Beach · Adarkar Wastes · Skycloud Expanse · Temple of Enlightenment · Mystic Sanctuary · Academy Ruins · Hall of Heliod’s Generosity · Rogue’s Passage · Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire · Otawara, Soaring City · 10 Island · 5 Plains
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Anyone play with or against Falco Spara before? How'd it usually play out?
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>>96765201
Nah Selesnya is boring. Green and white are two very similar colors so you end up with a bland color pairing.
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>>96765257
it plays out like its bullshit
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>>96764348
Simic Ascendancy
One day I'll actually win with it
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>>96764628
You're building Obeka, aren't you anon?
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>>96765257
i had him for a long time, and he is insanely strong, even when you dont do combos with devoted druid. i dindnt want to run any but still had one in with devoted druid by accident.

Bant are just bullshit colors, and he had a very high winrate. Does help that he is a Flampler in a counter strategy, he often just became a oppresive Voltron halfway through my counter value masturbation
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>>96764628
correct
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>>96765253
not reading your giant ass post faggot
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>>96764353
I made the last 2 and only one was UB. This one wasnt me
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STOP making product I don't personally like!
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>>96765764
More like
>Stop breaking promises about UB you greedy fucking kikes
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I'm glad I jumped ship months ago, magic is dead. Just keep your old decks, please stop giving money to stupid Jews of the coast, so maybe we can get magic back
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>>96765753
>does nothing
Wrong. It makes all damage in the game turn into exile mill. And if my opponent is retarded they can also choose to have mindskinner exile the cards instead of mill. Dont try to educate me when you dont know the game.
>Stifles are counters
Not the kind people hate. Cry about it shitter lmao
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>>96764433
>>96764430
Genuinely no one knows what game youre talking about
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>>96764669
>describes lab man
>>96764792
>thinks hes describing thoracle
Dogshit players really need to stop having opinions. You could win with thoracle while you still have quite a few cards left anon.
>zoomie pretending he has any connection to the game and is actually upset
Lol
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>>96765032
Gambling is fun and when you start earning more than minimum wage you will be able to understand the joy of a gamble now and then.
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>>96765201
You dont have to play things you dont like who are you trying to impress? Guess how many simic decks I have! ZERO!
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Mentally ill poster hasn’t posted the squirrel in the thread… I think we’re safe
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>>96765941
Safe from what little zoomzoom?
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HE POSTED IT, HE'S ALRIGHT!
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>>96764494
That does beg the question, if they did a treatment of ken would they use ken as the base or sparks and smoke?
It would be hella weird if the original printing was considered an alt
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>>96765818
What was the straw that broke your back?
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>>96766005
Why do you post this shit?
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>>96766057
We can't tell you
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I'm still trying to imagine a boardstate where Farewell is the only possible answer. So far basically the only thing I could come up with was "Infinite number of copies of Pithing Needle for every card with an activated ability, and infinite copies of Nevermore naming every card but Farewell". Farewell being a sorcery with no inbuilt protection actually prevents it from answering most situations beyond the bare minimum "ha ha I played Avacyn" type of setup which is very basic. I can't even think of a boardstate that would take 2+ cards or over 6 mana to answer that is still answered by Farewell.
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>>96766054
When they previewed the next sets and they all look shit, plus spider man. I'm not in the mood to play Fortnite the gathering, maybe if people played a mode without UB shit, it would be nice
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>>96766089
The power of farewell comes from the graveyard exile
Start thinking along those lines
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>>96766104
Man a edhg mode without you would be nice
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>>96766146
That's a 2 mana effect.
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>>96766089
What is even the point of this post?
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>>96766069
No I can’t tell, please tell me your secrets
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>>96766156
Or zero
The point is that its stapled to a board wipe
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>>96766165
the point is that the anon is grappling why people hate farewell when the correct response is to ignore such people
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>>96766176
It's a burden I must bear
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>>96766165
He was curious about shitters saying they "need" farewell and was trying to workshop a scenario in which you genuinely do need farewell
Apparently he's still at it
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>>96764494
Do you count each counter as orc semen?
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>>96766191
Bear… bearscape, so you have gay sex and play the gay sex card ? That’s the secret?
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Is this acceptable mana prod?
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>>96766239
This question can only be truly answered by actually playing the game.
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>>96766177
and yet I struggle to invent "simple" scenarios like you describe, and I would appreciate an example. The more permanents that need to be removed, the exponentially harder it becomes to recast them if they get bounced to hand. Scenarios that Farewell but no other card outs are ridiculously implausible because they're basically manufactured to let exactly Farewell out them. Even most scenarios that require a bounce stem from very difficult to assemble boardstates like Avacyn + 2x Privileged Position, and they STILL die to sac/toughness-reducing effects, so you need instant GY recursion on top of this already-unlikely boardstate.

If your opponent has a sac loop set up, Farewell doesn't work for the good ones because it's a sorcery. If it's a slow one it gets outed by RIP.
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>>96766217
When you word it like that, it does sound like a fun thought experiment.
Let me revise anon's autism another way by giving criteria:
>You have only one spell you can cast. For the purposes of this exercise, it must be Farewell - shutting down the scenario with another spell is a loss
>Color identity may matter depending on how hard you wish to make the exercise
>For the purposes of the experiment, you have unlimited mana to cast these spells and any followups, but you don't have any sinks.
>It is your main phase 1 or 2, and your opponent will win before they reach their next end step.
>No extra turns or turn-stopping, since those effectively act as redundancies

It's more interesting if we disregard the color identity requirement, since otherwise we can just make a scenario where it's a mono-white deck needing to exile all artifacts and enchantments.
When we do this, we necessarily must compare it to Merciless Eviction, and thus assume that not exiling the graveyard will result in the opponent winning. However, because every deck can run graveyard exile, we also must exile cards from the field or we lose by the rules, so for the sake of argument we also just assume that the opponent has "Ajani's Dildomonster," an artifact enchantment creature that does 1000 damage on the opponent's upkeep as a standin for whatever the opponent's win con might be.

Because the graveyard is not normally interacted with, and we assume that leaving either (X) card type or the graveyard alone will result in a loss, we can TL;DR the challenge as "Make a board state where the destruction of one card type results in some kind of graveyard win."
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>>96766232
you'll never know for sure
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>>96766310
>The more permanents that need to be removed, the exponentially harder it becomes to recast them if they get bounced to hand.
what if they have omniscience
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>>96766246
oh please, nothing that drastic
googling frank karsten will suffice
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>>96766217
>>96766354
Doubleposting because I think I see one easy scenario using the fact that I set up no rules about the number of opponents.
>Oblivion Ring/Banishing Light is on the field, which targeted an Animate Dead (the creature it was attached to had hexproof)
>Animate Dead's owner has a Worldgorger in graveyard and a OTJ dual-color desert on the field
>Both opponents have Ajani's Dildomonster
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Do you guys know of any good discord servers or whatever for getting spelltable matches?
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>>96766467
Exile the Worldgorger Dragon from GY (0 mana)
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>>96766562
But then the Ajani's Dildomonsters kill you on your opponents' next upkeeps
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>>96766310
It's not that hard.
They have a piece that needs to die and have repeatedly dodged removal using sac outlets and Chthonian Nightmare
Farewell prevents this loop and gets rid of any support pieces that might be left behind by other removal
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Apparently Farewell also removes your opponents' sanity.
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>>96766354
I haven't been on this conversation, but I disagree with that other anon about the gy exile being the important part of Farewell. the important part is that you can see that one mode would affect you the most and choose everything else, making things very one-sided, or you're an idiot who chooses everything and the game drags on for another several turns. and of course it's very good that it exiles instead of destroys.
as for a situation that can ONLY EVER be solved by JUST farewell and NOTHING ELSE, it's not hard to imagine some kind of heavily protected boardstate; and for the comparison to Merciless Eviction, the lockdown just needs to involve two non-overlapping card types, or two opponents each focusing on a different permanent type.
with two opponents you can just say one has indestructible and hexproof/protection artifacts and the other enchantments. specifically you can say that maybe Inspirit/Padeem/that 'artifacts have protection from cmcs of artifacts you control' partner being active with its own protection and Ethersworn Canonist, and on the other side is two out of Sterling Grove/Greater Auramancy/Privileged Position and I-can't-find-anything-that-gives-only-enchantments-indestructible-so-it'll-have-to-be Avacyn I guess.
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>>96766766
Still blocked by RIP
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>>96766814
Rip does nothing for removing the creature from the battlefield
Farewell does it all on one card
Thats why its good
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>>96766796
>the lockdown just needs to involve two non-overlapping card types, or two opponents each focusing on a different permanent type.
That's the point. Mechanically, the difference is that Eviction can't pick the graveyard and can instead pick walkers, so to make a situation where Eviction can't work, it necessarily must remove the graveyard.

I'm not interested in the practicality of the situation, since Farewell's value triumphs in that regard, or the situations where ot gets the most value. I'm interested in the hypothetical boardstate that could be set up this way, and trying to lockpick those.
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>>96765327
No, someone posted a neat Saskia/ball lightning tribal deck idea and I thought it was too fucking neato to not try it. There's only so many of them though so I'm including a bunch of reanimation
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>>96766792
it always just should have been "choose up to two"
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>>96764388
Iron Maiden is more cringe than Spiderman and only beta faggots like yourself can readily spread their cheeks for both WotC and Jew Dick-in-son at the same time.
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>>96766828
So here's what you need:
>Clthonian Nightmare loop
>Creature can be sacrificed at instant speed to a mana ability (must be a mana ability or this is outed by SS cards)
>No permanents that form a chokepoint on the loop if removed
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>>96767165
What are you trying to say?
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>>96766915
my point is the difference should be that Eviction can't pick two things at once, not that it just can't exile graveyards.
Farewell can hit graveyards, yes, and that contributes to it being able to consistently blow out two opponents at once, but that's not the defining difference.
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>>96767214
Pointing out that this is a situation that technically satisfies the requirements but is very implausible because of how it's manufactured without producing a win.
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>>96767214
Nothing, I'm just outlining what's needed for Farewell to be required assuming you have to do this in one card.
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>opponents have dangerous board state
Farewell is now the best answer, or at least one of them! What a weird discussion
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I just run Cyclonic Rift in every deck idk why people say Farewell is good.
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You played an Island? Natural Affinity into Farewell on all modes. My superfriends deck needs it!
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>>96767251
I thought I knew what you are trying to do but I guess not. Sounds like you are allowing yourself multiple cards worth of removal and im not sure why
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>>96764587
Stuff like this is why I run Vedalken Orrey in every deck that wants to be sneaky. Test Of Endurance also is something worth flashing in.
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>>96767232
So basically I win
Nice
Lets move on
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>>96765201
Run Yenna, she gets out of control fast and is Pretty fun to run
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>>96765201
Selvala explorer returned is an insanely good prison commander
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You do run Ghostly Prison right?
https://files.catbox.moe/9hapyc.png
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>>96767431
I don't play wh*te
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>>96767477
it's the 2nd best color behind Red
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Doing my weekly lgs visit what 3 boosters do i get bros
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>>96765464
>combos with devoted druid
Oh right. Didn't think about that but I can see how that can get out of hand quickly. Disappointing. I always had a bit of a soft spot for Capenna and was considering making some decks for it and he was one I had thought could be interesting. Guess I'll rethink what I do.
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this card is even more hilarious than I expected.
>works with all the 4-power synergy cards
>have to explain it three times to people
>they don't block it anyway
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>>96764348
Yawn. Wake me up when they make the Powerwolf set.
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>>96767544
just go for it, he is just pretty strong.
the other counter-centric commanders from the Brokers arent close to be this cool
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>>96767544
Why would you have to rethink if you dont want devoted druid combos dont put it in
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Bringing back this question since it was close to the thread dying when I asked it. What's a commander you built and thought you'd enjoy but after one or a few games you decided that commander wasn't for you.
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>>96767715
It's just so much worse than I thought it would be
Even for our kitchen table meta
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>>96767727
How did you build it?
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Gunna post most of my enchantment deck soon.
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>>96767762
In the trash
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>>96766232
No, that's me, not him
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I like to order cards from third world countries without tracking. The constant fear of never getting my cards and the suprise when they do appear in my mail is half the fun.
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free him
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>>96768142
stay in the rock
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>>96767762
Tokens and big tramplers with lots of card draw
The biggest problem I'm facing is how commander reliant the deck is and how much hoping you dont get it removed on turn 3 sucks
The second biggest problem is how much my wife likes how the deck looks
I'm forcing myself to keep brewing it even though I hate it
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>>96767778
No need, we got edh rec for generic piles
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>>96764494
>Maribell instead of Murasaki
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>>96768201
What color(s) do you think it is and who leads it?
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>>96768142
reminder
(i'm fine with griselbrand being GC btw)
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>>96767715
Not really no. I can rotate a 3d apple in my head.
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>not welcome at the LGS and my table group only plays once every 2 weeks

Wondering if I should just quit due to the agony of wanting to play but not being able to
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>>96768330
The fact you think these things are related is very funny. I love insecure retards so much.
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>>96768337
>not welcome at the LGS
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>>96767727
with art that bad you really should've known better
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>>96768355
Never thought id see the day but they left a note on my account and everytime id try to go in there they would be extremely sassy and kinda refuse to help me and my wife so I just took the hint and said fuck em
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>>96768337
>>96768378
>softbanned from LGS
I cant imagine the levels of shitbag someone needs to be for this lmao not your fault though im sure right?
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>>96767486
I play only bad colors
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>>96764836
Anyone got an updated one?
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>>96768381
I mean i would say its not, it was just a misunderstanding that they got very heated about.

>inquire if they have certain cards and price etc as they dont post singles on their site
>they call me a couple days later saying to come to the store to pick them up
>go down, they pulled like half the list, charged me $100.
>said sorry but I was just seeing what you exactly had and what the price was
>guy gets quite heated, says why did I ask then? I wasted his time
>find out they dont have any kind of tracking or record keeping of their singles so they only do pick lists and expect you to buy it once its picked
>apologize for the misunderstanding but I won't be buying the cards due to price and only having half the set and none of the essential cards
>next time I go in a different guy at the register mentions I have a note on my account, doesnt say what, but literally looks at me and goes "oh..so you're THAT anon huh?"

So yeah my fault i guess for not understanding what a pick list was but it was never explained to me that thats how they operate
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>>96768248
It doesn't matter its an enchantment deck
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>>96768417
I highly doubt any of that happened and you were just fun posting IRL during a game which made the other players uncomfortable.
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>>96768454
Nah unfortunately thats exactly what happened. I only had been to a couple drafts and some pre releases so I was still pretty new and just happy to play and meet people. I will say that some guys at my work said they aren't totally surprised about my story knowing the guy I dealt with
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>>96768378
I got banned for punching a guy in the arm for making a mock pet on me after I told him to stop with it. He was some VIP there so of course it was my fault.
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>>96768349
I bet you can only cook with recipes
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>>96764353
crymore pissbaby
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>>96768516
I don't believe you.
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>>96764792
>images on trading cards are serious business
>an image on a trading card emotionally triggered me
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>>96767554
Myriad is the most criminally underused mechanic in the game and there's so much fun shit they could be doing with it.
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>Play land, Manifest Dread a 7/11 Trampler with Shroud face down.
>Play land again, flip it face up.
Hmmm...shouldn't this have been Valgavoth's ability? Zimone doesn't seem like she can manifest dread.
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>>96768630
Black people naturally manifest dread anon
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>>96766089
>>96766310
The appeal of Farewell is not that it's unmatched in any one situation but that it's going to fuck up everything every time. Outside of blink/phase/self-bounce, there are very few boards that can tank a resolved Farewell.
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>>96768564
yes, I will cry about UB every thread and there is nothing you can do
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>>96768651
I wouldn't know, I don't typically interact with people face to face unless they are family or friends.
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>>96768630
Manifest Dread is just DSK's dumb name for its version of Manifest, and in the set itself is almost entirely a simic mechanic
Zimone is from the Quandrix(simic) school in Strixhaven and their gimmick is making living constructs out of math
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>>96767715
I think I just don't like prowess and the solitaire turns it benefits from. She's strong and takes people out with some consistency, but I don't like how long her pop off turns take.
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>>96768718
Oh, so it's just a name, she isn't actually manifesting dread.
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>>96768684
Why would I do anything about it? Watching so many middle aged men turning into lolcows having genuine melties about something so utterly stupid and not worth caring about is genuinely one of the funniest things I've seen since people were screaming about Trump's election. Please continue to cry about UB, post screen shots of your powerless complaints on social media and in the company surverys.
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>>96768718
maths is scary and makes me want to cry, so it checks out
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>>96768743
Pretty much
Manifest Dread is to Manifest as Surveil is to Scry
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>>96768731
Prowess sucks in EDH. There's so many cards that give you permanent +1/+1s for doing X without having to math out each turn.
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>>96768759
>take old mechanic
>slap another word to the end
damn, they aren't even opening a thesaurus anymore?
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>>96768789
I am just trying to figure out who at WotC is trying to turn Magic into YugiOh with all of these face down mechanics. (Manifest, Manifest Dread, Disguise, Hideaway and Cloak)
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>>96768752
well, you are replying for one so you care too much already
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>>96768847
There was a survey?
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>>96768532
Youd bet wrong but please keep bringing shame to yourself
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>>96768868
there still is, but please refrain from answering so UB looks good in any light. also, post about you favorite UB characters and games and other media as little as possible. we are trying to make the game better here
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>>96768902
Where's the link?
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>>96768902
Nice false flag, UBtourist.
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I posted about how I liked UB in the survey btw
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>>96768920
mtg.social/MTGxSPMSurvey
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>>96768599
>I don't like that the direction the game I love is taking devalues creativity and values only short-term profit
>I choose to personally not engage with this, not even saying you shouldn't and let you be happy with whatever you like
>this is a bad thing btw
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>>96764353
IS THAT A HECK IN ZOMBIE KING IN A GOTHIC CASTLE? HELP ME ADOLF! THIS DOES NOT HECKIN FIT MAGIC
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>>96768925
Based. I said I didn't personally like Spider Man but I understand that a lot of younger players do and that giving them the option to play with art they like is a good thing and that the grey hairs crying about it are not the future of the game and should be ignored.
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>>96768983
Being serious for a moment I did say that while I do not like Spiderman I liked some of the effects besides webslinging, Spiderman wasn't for me, I still haven't brought a single card from the set and I think the next Marvel set won't be for me either but I don't believe the game is over. I still have fun playing the game and interacting with people at my LGS and even at my home when I play over the weekend with friends. My real answer to most of their questions was that I didn't enjoy it but if a friend of mine uses a card from it I won't object.
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>>96768925
Based accelerationist
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Ordered a few cards for Golbez tonight, gonna slot in Akal Pakal, Faerie Artisans, and probably Forget/Lat-Nam's Legacy
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Another TCGPlayer direct order fucked up. I'm permanently switching to CardKingdom.
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>>96764792
This.
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>>96768599
Ummm sweaty? If you don't burst into tears and shit yourself when you see a SpongeBob card then you are not a real magic fan
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>>96768599
>I wouldn't care if my cards were artless/blank and all the names were just a sequence of numbers to differentiate them
npc moment
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>>96769029
What did they screw up now? I avoid tcgplayer as much as I can
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>>96768329
unban him
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>>96768630
Surprised Zimone isn't more common. She really seems broken. Seems very similar to Atla Palani but since your opponents don't know what you manifested they likely won't waste removal on it.
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>>96768599
>>images on trading cards are serious business
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>>96768868
Yes and all the YouTubers melted down because WOTC inserted a question asking if content creator negativity impacted your view on the set

After asking you for what creators you watch lol
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>>96769050
Missing cards again. I don't understand how they advertise themselves better than 3rd party sellers and claim they double check their work/quality.

I've always had better luck with their 3rd party partners than them.
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>>96769029
You're going to pay twice as much now
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>>96769048
>Anon explains competitive gaming
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>>96769075
cedh is cringe
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>>96768978
Zoomers unironically think you cant stop supporting something (unless the system says you have to boycott it). Its not a critical generation.
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>>96769029
Both suck
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>>96769063
haha oh wow that's more jewish than a mysteriously well-time insurance policy on the twin towers
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>>96768599
Art is at least 30% of what makes magic good to me. If the art sucks the BEST grade it can get is a C.
That sucks.
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>>96768599
My enjoyment of my hobby is serious business
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>>96768897
Did you eat breakfast this morning?
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>>96768532
Bake, yes.
Cook, no.
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>>96768330
I refuse to believe you loved every commander you built
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>>96769146
>Anon cant even ask his own meme questions properly
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>>96767715
tayam. went infinite too accidentally
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>>96769175
Lmao keep making a fool of yourself aphantasiac
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>>96768599
WRONG SCRIMBLO
EDHG MUST KNOW
WRONG SCRIMBLO
SOMEONE MUST PAY
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>>96768355
I once told a local game store clerk to gargle my cum, they banned me then went out of business at the beginning of covid.
It was exactly like that scene from 40 year old virgin
>hey can I get that foil elvish mystic in the case?
>no you have to buy it from our online store
>but its right here
>sorry you have to make an account and purchase it there
>I dont want to make an account
>ts right here can't I give you money right now?
>no
>ok gargle my cum, faggot
There's a reason I post online and rarely go into stores, I have a hard time with social interactions. I've been kicked out of a couple of stores.
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>>96767715
Never managed to get a big mutate pile going. Removal and counterspells are just too ubiquitous for creature-focused value piles.
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>>96769211
I was going to say you are the asshole but if they are acting like Rockstar Games then they get what they deserve
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>>96769059
>the edh thread isn't a thread to talk about edh it's a thread to cry about images on cardboard

You faggots are so utterly silly lmao
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>>96769211
They deserved it.
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>>96769105
I felt it was a fair question (it only showed up if you picked multiple negative answers and answered you learned about the set from creators) but it was worded rather assholishly.
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>>96769211
I don't think you were fully in the wrong. I think saying to gargle cum was autistic but the store should've just sold you the damn card as well.
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>>96769029
>swap my deck price on moxfield from tcgplayer to cardkingdom
>goes up 500 dollars
>90% of it is sold out anyway
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>>96769211
You should look up the owner now and send them a message that they probably wouldn't have gone out of business if they hadn't been pedantic retards demanding in-person customers create accounts.
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>>96769239
Anon, the only reason to have that question is so they can lean on or excommunicate content creators they've assessed are a threat to the brand
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>>96769261
Data gathering is a real thing anon.
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I wanna build beledros witherbloom because I think he looks cool and I happen to have a citadel of bolas and a torment of hailfire rotting in my trade binder
with that in mind, I guess I want to dump a ton of lands in my yard and bring them back with aftermath analyst and lumra and splendid reclamation
any tips for cards to self-mill and gain life while I jerk myself off
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i reaaaallly love people paying the one
i myself would never ever do it though
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>>96768413
I don't get the real person portion? We've had literal real people like Post.
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>>96769053
Agreed. Also unban my boy. I built him competitive and he tutored for Gaea’s Cradle and I built him casual and he tutored Maze’s End. He did nothing wrong.
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>>96769280
gay golos
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>>96768102
based thrill buyer
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>>96768102
i bet you get stress boners
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>>96769246
>want to put together deck
>no singular store or seller has more than 5 cards available
>would have to pay over $70 dollars in shipping alone
>3+ weeks to get them all
>order from the Chinese
>total cost less than $25 dollars
>arrives in one package within 10 days

Taiwan is rightful CCP clay ni hao to the realest nibbas on the planet.
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>>96767586
I have never listened to these guys but Iron Maiden sure had better album covers back in the day than this shit here.
I don't know what it is but it just feels like the most generic metal album cover tshirt you'd see.
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swapped from the bug to the jund ship and my god it's disgusting, not even for the landfalls but just finisher and digging into the deck for like no cost
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>>96769301
I have largely swapped to just proxying for this reason. No one who sells real cards wants to send things in reasonable time periods.
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>>96769301
i order bulk shit i need from cardtrader.
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>>96769230
>Redditspacer defends UB crap
Aw, are you only here because you got banned from r/EDH
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>>96769280
I believe that pedophiles use golos in brawl to subliminally groom underage children using complex and specific land drop sequences
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>>96769280
No.
Fuck gay and unimaginative 5c goodstuff piles
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>>96769328
>raises your BP from 160/110 to 180/130
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>>96769280
yes, golos should be a GC
bracket 3 should have 5c goodstuff piles
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>>96769280
sorry, only gruul golos allowed
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>>96769354
are those fucking Kiwis on a Pizza?
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>>96769210
>SCRIMBLO
where did this come from?
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>>96769354
You were bullied in high school and still think about it, don't you?
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>>96769364
>>where did this come from?
It's a twitter meme
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>>96769280
I still remember the threads when the ban hit. the fun we had while enjoying the redditors tears were sweet.
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>>96769354
3 cheese broccoli pizza is good for you
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>>96769355
so the way we kill bluefarm is just turn everything into a golos deck?
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>>96769361
Don't pretend like you don't vita-c up your pie brah.
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>>96769372
Twas nothing compared to the MC/Jewlo/Dockside ban
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>>96769371
what does it mean? and what kind of dumbass propagated it?
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>>96769380
I still have my chinese prints somewhere. god do I miss the $3 I payed for them.
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>>96769379
>get shitty nyc pizza all over your blade
>all over the top of your hand
>all over your wrist
why?
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>>96769374
you kill bluefarm by unbanning crypt dockside and jewlotus so combo can outrun midrange hell
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>>96769379
I actually hate these lands more now
>>96769385
From what I understand it's making fun of nostalgia bait
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>>96769391
dude they live in the sewers, they're dirty as shit
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>>96769364
some queer keeps trying to force it and nobody ever takes it up but him
It's very, very sad
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>>96769397
ok but how does this help him eat the pizza
unless he's just trying to deliberately make a mess
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>>96768687
Then how do you make friends?
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>>96769407
>>96769391
Turts are hungry but clumsy lil bois
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Are autists still mad they changed Raph's Sai's into a jitte in the turtle shit set?
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>>96769395
Not that it's really relevant but there are way too many jrpg literally whos on the super smash roster and the entire identify of the game revolves around member berries anyway
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>>96769416
>the turtle shit set
hahaha
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>>96769408
friends?
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I don't play with people who run ub
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>>96769425
>member berries
that's nintendo's entire business model
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>the removal doesnt exile
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>>96769425
The only Smash Bros reveal I was genuinely hyped for was Erdrick.
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>>96769444
Inquisition is a burn spell idiot
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>>96769440
How do you know if they do?
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>>96769408
>Then how do you make friends?
learn how to make acquaintances first
and no i'm not going to spoonfeed you lmao
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>>96769452
does it exile?
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>>96769459
it's not even removal it just burns face
so, it could technically exile someone from the table I guess
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>>96769361
>are those fucking Kiwis on a Pizza?
In the 2nd episode they literally poured breakfast cereal on pizza
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>>96769408
I made acquaintances with them first, they became my friends later. One of them has even more friends, some of them became my friends too. Others not really.
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>>96769425
>there were autists screeching about the inclusion of Pikachu and other pokemon in SSB64 because Pokemon was less than a year old and Nintendo was just pandering to kiddies with this fad character which had no place alongside the classic Nintendo characters and surely these pokimans would be gone in a year or two anyways

antiub xisters, take note
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>>96769471
putting cereal just makes it a dessert pizza and makes it no less of a crime than italians putting nutella
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>>96769453
What do you mean?
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>>96769496
You got a problem with breakfast for dinner brah?
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>>96769449
>Erdrick
I have no idea who that is lol
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>>96769504
>Guy plays an UB card on turn 7
You're already playing with him. How do you avoid this situation?
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>>96769504
He means how do you know before you sit down for a game. The commander I understand but what about the 99?
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>>96769515
>>96769516
Just get up and leave
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>>96769513
Dragon Quest nigga named Hero in Smash Bros
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>>96769512
swedish banana and curry pizza is a thing btw
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Pineapple and ham is the best pizza.
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>>96769539
pepperoni is the only real pizza everything else is fake and gay
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>>96769539
It's not bad
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Kitchen Nightmares UB when?
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>>96769523
Sir, sir, if you stand up from the table you get a game loss, sir
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>>96769569
Will Sammy and Amy be partners? What are their colors?
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>>96769569
Finally, a secret lair worth buying
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>>96769534
>noo ninja turtles from nyc cant use sai
>they aren't yellow enough
>but they do like swedish pizza
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>>96769547
Pepperoni is just ham in drag
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>>96769569
2027, probably. Unless they announce more Secret Lairs between now and then.
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>>96769582
ham is to pepperoni what UB is to real magic
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>>96769569
>its just 5 copies of meltdown with different art
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How the fuck do i actually ramp with a mostly green deck? I'm tired of getting my 1/1 elves nuked the nano-second they step on the board. I want 9 mana by turn 5. I want to play a 10/10 Hydra. How can i draw cards, play lands and protect those stupid snakes?
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Supreme Pizza isn't actually the supreme flavor that would be 5 cheese Marmalade
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>>96769606
>asking how to ramp in green
Nigga are you retarded? That's like a skinny 19yo chick asking how to get laid
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>>96769606
how new?
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>>96769606
>How the fuck do i actually ramp with a mostly green deck?
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>>96769606
Congrats on the (You)s, anon
And on the offchance you're actually that retarded, stop playing mana dorks and start playing more land ramp and land enchantments. Utopia sprawl mogs the shit out BoP or an elf.
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>>96769606
Unfortunately in green your choices for ramp are very limited. You basically just have ESG and have to add a bunch of 3-4 mana rocks. If you want to ramp hard you'll have to go Gruul and add a lot of red ramp.
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>>96769592
So same thing but a different name?
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> UB is le good|bad
> baaaait
> *ritual post*
> guys how do I do draw cards in blue / deal damage in red / ramp in green / make tokens in white
> booba!
> post decks!!
> no games confirmed
> slooop
> I accept your concession
> never happened by the way
> I hate swordbro!!
> UB: ancient norse mythology when??
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>>96769730
It's not much, but it's home!
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gay bolas
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>>96769735
>gay
>because i have willed it
kek
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>>96769735
niclole isnt gay, shes a girl
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>>96769606
>How the fuck do i actually ramp with a mostly green deck?
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how do i draw cards as green without big creatures
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>>96769830
Guardian project
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Is the community retarded? how are these two combos compareable? how is blood bond a bracket 4 combo when it costs 10 mana and doesnt win on the spot but gives you multiple chances to stop. even with basic removal.
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>>96769830
try scryfall
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>>96769908
>how is a two card insta win a two card insta win?
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>>96769916
>insta win
>cant react to casting either card?
>needs an additional lifegain trigger to actually win
>is said lifegain trigger bypassing the stack?
you dont get to ban cards to the shadow realm because you refuse to sleeve up interaction.
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>>96769943
Just play with 3/4s doesnt seem that hard anon.
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>>96769943
I mean you literally do because thems the rules, bitch boy.
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>>96769440
How do you feel about those with Anime Art commanders from the Foundation Jumpstart? Are you cool with those?
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>>96769916
I'm more concerned that it's labelled "early game"
The total cost of Bloodbond is 7BBB, plus an opponent losing life or you gaining life. How the fuck is ten mana "early game"?
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>>96769957
Why do you need to cast both cards on the same turn? They're permanents.
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>>96769733
I wanted to make a Tifa deck but she seems so shit if people keep killing her. She literally is the deck.
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>>96769964
are you not removing the obvious combo piece if some retard plays it without going off in the same turn?
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>>96769964
That's a good point, however it further emphasizes my point of it being not exactly "Early game"
You either need 10 mana on a single turn, or 5+5 across two turns.
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>>96769971
>They always have it

>>96769996
Plenty of ways to get these cards out early, anon. No requirement you play monoblack.
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>>96769967
That's a problem with a fuck ton of commanders
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>>96770006
If bloodbond is "early game" then fucking prossh+Food chain+Gobbo bombo/blartist should count too.
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Yes I always have it
I have removal in the command zone
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>>96770035
it does, are you stupid?
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guys, reddit is making fun of us again.
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>>96770084
I don't think anyone can argue the format where people don't run removal because "it's too mean" isn't infantilized.
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>>96770084
>thread argues the bracket system isn't arbitrary
>gets upset the bracket system arbitrarily rates sanguine+exquisite the same as thoracle+consultation
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I got the Doctor Who version of Three Visits because I think the art looks cooler. And I don't even watch Doctor Who!
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>>96770194
As a who fan I am unsure what makes you like that art if you don't watch the show or care about it.
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>>96770194
but the uglier frame...
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>>96768680
>Against white
They have blink/phase
>Against blue
You played a 6 mana noncreature spell
>Against Jund
Congrats you assraped their whole color pie's protection options.
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>>96770225
green has the lands to just play a new threat
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>>96770040
>pretend like you can ramp in green
Lmao
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>>96770208
I think the triangle portals look better than just fairies.
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>>96770084
magic players are cringe
redditors are retarded
magic playing redditors are cringe retards
bracket 1 btw
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>>96769048
Anon has discovered all competitive formats and games. Do you think people ran Nadu decks in Modern because they just thought the art on the cards in those decks were cool? Do you think Vivi became tier 0 in standard because his art is so amazing and everyone loves Vivi? In competitive games people who are trying to win will gravitate toward whatever wins.
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>>96770244
>three visits arts are
>spiderverse
>doctor who movie
>ffx
>eldraine(?) fairies
>chinese three wise men
>and a SHRUBBERY!
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>>96769311
I run the bug in the CZ for Glacial Chasm loops and because I run MLD. Ship is still a wincon in the 99. Shitting out a big pile of lands and throwing down a Zuran Orb is made no less satisfying by being easy.
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>>96768779
This is true. I want to make a monk tribal deck, but it just ends up turning into prowess.dek.
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>>96769730
>post decks!!
But this one is good though. How can you have a thread dedicated to a card game but not talk about the decks we make for that game?
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What deckboxes do you guys use? I was looking at these since they're cheap
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>>96770473
Gamegenic sidekicks
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>>96770473
3D printed ones I got the .stls for off of printables.
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>>96769483
Pokemon was 3 years old when Smash 64 came out
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>>96769379
I'm going to exclusively use these lands since they upset people.
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>>96769328
>redditspace
You know that was a /s4s/ meme yeah?
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>>96769395
SCRIMBLO BIMBLO NAMED
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>>96769364
Praise be to Lord Scrimblo
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>>96769577
What are you talking about?
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Will the UBpiggies finally shut the fuck up now WotC is demonstrably shitting themselves over how bad Spider-Man did?
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>>96770624
no

their next excuse will be IT WASN'T A POPULAR IP
or
SPIDER-MAN TAINTED MTGXMARVEL
or simply
PRODUCT FATIGUE (which is also true but they will never consider that UB concept itself contributes to product fatigue)
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>>96770632
>>96770624
My excuse is that I do not care for Spiderman and I'm glad it failed so they can make UB products I care about like they did with FF
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>>96770624
wtf? all i did is putting spiderman and aetherdrift in "not familiar" and telling them i have bought and played other card games too lmao
thats one away to get your desired outcome
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>>96770668
Good news! They won't.
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>>96770671
Yeah no shit, you said you don't know anything about the set most of the questions were based on. You have to say you're slightly or very familiar, it doesn't mean you played or liked it, it just means you've fucking heard of them
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>>96770624
I don't think I saw that option. Weird.
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>>96770706
No nor did I. I got a question asking me what influencers I had watched talking about Spider-Man. I wonder if they literally have a list of persona non grata
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>guy I introduced to magic now goes for a turn one Winds of Change
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>>96770700
yeah that makes some fucking sense
still funny
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>>96770473
I bought the cheapest double deckbox from aliexpress because I do not support my local game store.
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>>96770712
this is how they're building the list
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>>96770712
>Bite hand that feeds you
>be surprised this backfires
lol
Also there were 0 creators positive about this set so I guess they'll be removing creator programs entirely.
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>>96770706
>>96770712
I didn't get any questions about influencers or anything similar.
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>>96770713
that's awesome though
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>>96770732
Pic related
>>96770771
>if you make content you about a game you have to be positive about it!!!!!
Retard shit
>Also there were 0 creators positive about this set
This is completely untrue. Aside from the soifessor and maybe a couple others the coverage I saw was overwhelmingly neutral or slightly positive. Just people previewing cards and talking about rules interactions.
That soiboy Redbeard guy was positive as fuck about it because he's your typical consoomer retard. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a funkopop collection unironically.
>>96770773
I have no idea how the maze of questions is meant to be navigated. I did take some screenshots for the memes but I'm at work right now



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