It's Like Some Sort of Tide.... Of Vermin Edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>96779664>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Thread question:Pitch an AoS game. Hard Mode: you can't play as a ghoul who thinks they're human
Now that the dust has settled, why did the Helsmiths of Hashut flop?
>>96787009 you would think fantasy players would be just as happy with AoS chorfs since all you need to proxy with them is a square base, but I guess not. >>96787021>TQsmall party rpg where a couple of Order race people get together with some stormcast on a KO sky boat and adventure around the realms hunting down the forces of chaos/death/ and destruction. alternatively, FTL but it's a KO crew having to mine aether gold and defend the boat from tzeentch demons.
>>96787021Take the old Mouse Trap board game.Reskin it so you are playing as Skaven.Zero effort concept. Make the pieces powerful minis for AoS and the game a limited collector item with a stupid price tag.
96787045kill yourself immediately
>>96787047but anon, how can it be a GW board game if it doesn't have a 40 page minimum rulebook?
>>96787046>you would think fantasy players would be just as happy with AoS chorfs since all you need to proxy with them is a square base, but I guess not.Nah the actual Chaos Dwarf players who have stuck with the army for decades are majority rejecting the HoH range.https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/the-big-poll-helsmiths-buying-intentions/27904There's the actual thread if you want to see more kits and their opinions.
>>96787046>>96787068The worst polling one is the artillery, with the best being the centaurs.
>>96787068>>96787072nobody cares what a bunch of total warhammer 3 larpers think
>>96787047>Board game where Skaven from a bunch of lesser clans fight and plot to get a seat on the Council>Over the course of the game, everyone sets up a piece to an elaborate Rube Goldberg machine (Probably just made of cards and tokens)>Whoever gets caught in the Great Machination gets killed>Last Rat Standing wins>Bonus: The models work as uniquely sculpted stand-ins for generic leaders
>>96787093Newfag pls shut the fuck up that forum has been up for decades.
>>96787009When they get new stuff, they cry and seethe. When they dont get new stuff, they cry and seethe. When others get new stuff, they cry and seethe. Just a pack of retarded faggots with their asses broken and bleeding.
>>96787101>newfagpost those shitty beastmen you bought off ebay again lol
>>96787068>buying intentions poll>50% yes most likely, 50% noalso worth noting that poll only 50 responses, so it's not exactly representative of the majority of players.
>>96787101tg has been up for nearly 2 decades and none of the original people are aroundyou have no point
>>96787110No of course it isn't. But it is representative of one of the oldest still functioning Chaos Dwarf communities rejecting it. It's not a crushing 9-1 but there is a majority negative consensus. But that's fine. The AoS team didn't want them because they wouldn't have gone art deco if they did.
>>96787072>worst one is artillery, the most thematically important part of the faction>the best is the one people want for meta reasonsgrim. I wish they tried harder with the artillery, they both feel pretty phoned in design wise. Standard infantry don't need very intricate armor but the big war machines should have a lot going on.
Just stop fucking replying, please. Don't let this retard ruin another thread.
>>96787021Don't use fantasy memes please as thread images please.
Im sure in the next wave we will get a big ass cannon (now we have a mortar and rockets artillery, not a cannon), the Lamassu, a Bullcentaur Hero and something more
>>96787115>majority negative consensusyes, 51% is technically a majority. still pretty good considering it's a forum for old grognards who you would think would only want things exactly as they were
>>96787120The bombard is a bit dull, with those weird art deco angles. The deathshrieker is legitimately an awful what the fuck were they thinking design.
>>96787123Even if we all ignore him he will samefag replies until somebody else kicks in, all shitposters are desperate like that
>>96787128>majority of chaos dwarf veterans reject HoH>this is a good thingkek
>>96787134>Veterans>>>Majority"No"
>>96787134a whopping 25 motherfuckers, I'm sure GW is crying in agony at those lost sales
Ignore the TOW widow spamming our thread; his thread is dead as his game, thats why he is here, in a place with people posting and interacting. Poor, lonely, little and pathetic nostalgia fag fulfilled with bitterness.
>>96787143I post on both threads and the TOW is pretty busy tonight actually
>>96787143? 4e is objectively killing AoS looking at tournament attendance, while TOW continues to grow. In a decade no one outside of a few of you will even remember this setting, let alone GW. GW literally forgot about the 10 year anniversary for AoS, it's a passionless money project that is bringing in less and less.
>>96787134>less grogs in aos
>>96787151>I post on both threadsGet the fuck out of here grog leaf faggot
>>96787152>4e is objectively killing AoS looking at tournament attendanceWell maybe when you simplify a game so much it loses all fun and flavor people will stop playing.
>>96787156>Well maybe when you simplify a game so much it loses all fun and flavor people will stop playing.Uh....40k?
How do you even make AoS complex enough to satisfy grogs and fake grogs but simple enough to attract new players?
>>96787021Soon
>>96787173Literally just go back to 2e
>>96787161Like DnD, it's a beast so large it eclipses the rest of the industry combined and is immune to stuff that affects others in the industry.
>>96787173You don't. That's why fake grog games died 2 already
>>96787173do not pander to grogs. they kill any game they touch
>>96787173Grogs will never be satisfied, look at the current state of tow, it's just glorified hero hammer with double necrolith lists, triple ballons, juiced Pegasus lords plus bombards, there's no rank and file and most list have less models than the average aos list
>>9678716180% of the people who "play" 40K are just cumzoomers. They dont care about anything, they just eat and buy, no matter if the slop is the biggest shit ever. They pay $65 every 2 months for a copy-paste of the same space marines but with wings in their helmets and with other color.
>>96787173>Simple enough for newcomersAoS had no problem getting new players with 3e, so this is a bit of a false premise
>>96787198>there's no rank and file and most list have less models than the average aos listNone of the points you made are true save for Cathay players bring 3 balloons to tournaments.Here is a website for actual tournament winning lists/that tracks tournaments and you can see it's very much not what you describe https://oldworldrankings.com/army_lists?page=1&game_version_date_range=2025-07-21_2025-10-19
When are the villains getting shown off?
>>96787222they're drip-feeding us like assholes so in 4 weeks
>>967872166th list is 2 necroliths, almost half of the army points, stop trying to damage control
>>96787222Warhammer Day is saturday 25; sooooo, i think they will give us the good stuff there.
He's going to fully replace Spawns next edition
>>96787232This one? The one that runs over 100 models at 2k that you didn't mention?
>>96787246My man bringing the receipts
>>96787251I don't understand why he is trying to tell half truths using a website that I literally provided for him to see what lists look like. Very strange behavior.
>>96787246>all those optionsWas AoS like this at some point? One of those skeleton entries has almost as many things to track as a whole 2k AoS list.
>>96787265He's unironically trying to convince himself more than anyone else, I think.
>>96787239Honestly? The one we got was an upgrade from the OG design. That was just a weird wendigo
>>96787239Chaos Spawns need new models asap. They are ugly and dumb; they dont event come with traits of the gods to personalize.
>>96787300I doubt GW will bother to make a kit as cutomizable as demon prince for them
Will the Spiderfangs get squatted or refreshed
>>96787312Yes
>>96787312Arachnarock stays, small spiders get the boot. I think that's all their kits anyway
>>96787316I could be wrong but I assume that because both the Arachnarok and spider riders are both in a core army in TOW they will both get replaced by new kits and they will be retired to Old World.
>>96787321You are wrong
>>96787323
How does HoH fit in?
>>96787300i feel like new spawns would've came out alongside a big ass morghur centrepiece
>>96787352Skaven are a fractious coalition with Skaven
>>96787366That's the joke
>>96787352Desperate Coalition with KO, FSFractious Coalition with KB and most of ChaosNo Coalition with everyone else>>96787366Damn Skaven. They ruined Skavenblight
>40k artillery unit on 100mm bases>two per box>each comes with three weapon options>£35 (£17.50 each)>AoS artillery unit on 100mm base>one per box>only two weapon options>£37 (£74 for two)Hrmmm
>>96787389You're forgetting the cost to your dignity for associating with Imperial Guard
>>96787389>three weapon options>only one is gooddamn
>>9678738940k box, 40 pointsAoS box, 200 points
>>96787152>4e is objectively killing aos looking at tournament attendanceIt's up 23% across the board lol>b-but lvo!Aos has been trending towards smaller yet more numerous events for a few years now
>>96787239probably, yesshame because it's monopose
>600+ replies on the previous threadDamn what the fuck happened? I'm not reading all that.
>>96787352kharadron mercs instead of fyreslayers mercs, beasts as the direct opposite in chaos, rest like the other main chaos factions
I actually like Helsmiths of Hashut. Yes I do wish there were certain aesthetic aspects of Chaos Dwarfs they used instead of trying to be original but overall they're fine. I do think the winged bull and artillery models aren't that great though.
>>96787672towfags and tww secondaries seething about chorfs second wave
What does "pass across mean"? (For example in the kavalos deathrider ability)Do you just have to clip the base of the enemy unit and move back or do the riders have to move entirely over the enemy unit?Can't seem to find a ruling about that.
>>96787107Has the goteslopper been shitstirring again
>>96787700Is this how it's going to be for the next however many years
Was Sigmar's toll any good? im a secondary (if that) and usually wh+ stuff takes a while to hit torrents but this one intrigues me so im debating to throw a month subscription just to watch it
>>96787824>warhammer+ content>is it good Lmao
>>96787824It's better than other GW animations. It's up to you how high that bar is
>>96787824I actually loved Sigmar's Toll and I'd strongly suggest you watch it. It was honestly super enjoyable and it kinda makes me hate Blacktalon even more since it was so fucking terrible and Toll was so good.
>>96787840>>96787850i just have a softspot for skavens on the imperium guess from playing skaventidebut i was hoping for better reviews from this thread, guess ill just wait
>>96787741Goteslopper?! lmfao
>>96787101Forums have been mostly irrelevant outside of this site and maybe kiwi farms. Even then this site is degrading.
>>96787824It was entertaining and made stormcast look interesting
>>96787824>>96787892You know every episode already was posted for free on /tg/?
>>96787687>Skaven cannot have better than a fractitious coalition Yeah, that tracks
I wish there were more animations for Age of Sigmar. Sigmar's Toll was really good and Blacktallon is not that bad.
>>96787949as i mentioned im just a secondary, i dont spend a lot of time in /tg/ , i only found out they released that animation a few days ago, so i guess i missed itis not the biggest of deals, i will watch it eventually i just wanted to find out what people in here thought about it as AoS doesn't get a lot of attention when compared to 40k
>>96788016>aos secondaryFor what fucking purpose? Lore isn't even that interesting, only reasons to ever give a fuck about aos are models and maybe the game itself.
>>96788016Here's episodes 1-3. How about you watch it and tell us what you think instead of trying to get opinions form 4chan
>>96788034no no, im a secondary of warhammer overalli play videogames, watch animations, sometimes waste some time on the wikishad this animation being about some other setting i would have asked on a different threadIts also the fact that while not the same setting i enjoy skavens fucking with mankind from playing a bunch of vermintide
>>96788050thank you anon, i appreciate the dolphin porn
>>96788055Well you don't see that everyday. I'd say have a look through the archives, I'm pretty sure you can find the episodes for free. As for quality I mean it's alright. Kind of like the books in a vacuum even the good black library books are nothing special, but if you enjoy the universe it gets a boost.
>>96788050Ratted link
Please more quest news
>>96788109Next week
>>96788109Tomorrow probably
How would you go about creating a genuinely unique human aesthetic for a border princes / renegade crowns army?
>>96788244Stormcast models
>>96788256Respectful, kill yourself
>>96788050I liked it, i like skaven treachery and infighting, i enjoyed the stormcasts talking about how the city can fuck off as long as they get the bell, i liked the cuck cages they have for those stormcasts that are too far gone, those ruination chambersThank you anon, i appreciate it and i hope you have a great day.
>>96788244I think you took a wrong turn somewhere.
>>96787068I mean it's almost even between yes and nos
>>96787824Someone should post the third episode
>>96788462dont reply to 8 hour old bait
>>96788472You have a link few posts above moron.
>>96788490Wait isn't there a fourth or does it just end with them walking to the bell
Is there any chance Maggotkin will be released before January? Historically, based on past releases?
>>96788568Maybe but there is a lot of shit in the pipeline for the holidays> Nu Blood Bowl> Nu Warhammer QuestAnd they don't release new shit in December
>>96787155Awesome (sarcasm) to see that /aosg/ has degenerated into the same sort of bitter console war faggotry as /wfg/
>>96787700>>96787806Can you not acknowledge that someone can dislike HoH without being a bad-faith troll?
>>96788634>retard spams for hours screaming MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL SLOP SLOP SLOOOOP>wtf why do you think he's a troll???
>>96788634I can acknowledge someone disliking them as much as someone liking them.
>>96788662Well, that guy IS a troll, but while he was trolling, I was also airing my grievances about the range. I don't want to be called a troll just because a troll happens to dislike the same things as me.
>>96788568>Is there any chance Maggotkin will be released before January?it dependsit's likely warhammer quest will be out in time for Christmas, but it's not a given the following waves would appear immediately
>>96787021>Pitch an AoS game. Hard Mode: you can't play as a ghoul who thinks they're humanYou play as a merchant with over 500 copies of the Helsmiths box that you must sell within a single realm-month or face catastrophe at the hands of the Debtflood Dollarscribes
oh good the retard woke upnobody dare say anything positive about the HoH or he'll start spamming again
>>96788731He’ll just say something positive himself so he can samefag
>>96788674See? Would a troll have positive things to say about some of the range?
>it appears my superiority has led to some controversy
>>96788634If you are called a troll just post recently painted AoS models.
>>96788731Damn you seem like a real Postwhine Groantyper
>>96788808I don't really want my models to be associated with my very frequent whining and mewling
>>96788820then stop whining
>>96788800>literally too fat to reach for his gun, ergo having no shooting profile>gets outshot by a fucking master moulderhow embarrassing
I feel like they'll be announcing a new stream within the next couple weeks.
wait is nothing happening on warhammer day? I thought there would be a stream on the 25th or something.
>>96788954They'll do some last minut shit
65 dollars for hobgrot chaff is dogshitBetter to just get more cheap ebay slittaz
>>96788957Slittaz also look better lol
>>96788943We already know there's a preview show planned for Nov 5th.
>>96788800
>>96789075lol
>>96788991Ironjawz and Gitmob were previewed around then but Ironjawz only came out January 1st
Manifesting a Mindstealer Bibliarch as the DoT release for their book
>>96787021>TQAOS Dating sim
Are the Warhammer quest games fun? Never played.
>>96789359>win the Darkoath Warqueen's heart and complete her route by helping her fulfill her mighty oath to deliver the Sigmarite lands into ruin and desolation in the name of the Dark Gods
>>96789393They're ok-ish. Nothing special. People mostly like the for the unique models
>Pitch an AoS game. Why no one make a "They Are Billions" style game for AoS. You got Undead, Grots AND SKAVEN as enemies.Build strongpoints and stop them from getting overrun
Marine week. Lots and lots of marines. They're even promoting repackaged CSM units.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hlcnosds/sunday-preview-ultramarines-terminators-and-da-red-gobbo/
>>96787021>>Thread question:>Pitch an AoS game. Hard Mode: you can't play as a ghoul who thinks they're humanstormdiversenemies are skaven, gits and fec
>>96789393Worse than the better dungeon crawlers (shadows of brimstone, gloomhaven, etc) but better than the no effort slop (descent, dungeon saga, hero quest, etc)
>>96789476i cant believe 40kiddies really go for this shit. its so fucking boring
>>96789476AoS BL releases are so sparse by comparison
>>96789476Urm actually, it's chaos space marines, compelatly different from space marines
>>96789508Could be that they’re waiting for the quest or some other army to be dropped to tie it in. It’s usually been the pattern for Aos bl books.
>>96789520lame, uninspired, pointless
>>96789476Yeesh. That's 40K caught up on all known mainline releases though, right? Just killteam left? Next preview show is going to be big, if for no other reason than because aside from like Bloodbowl and Dark Water we don't have have any known pending releases for most of their games atm.
>>96789573Think it'll be pretty big yeah. Although maybe darkwater was supposed to be shown there too, who knows. I'm guessing whatever's left to show from darkwater + accompanying nurgle release + maybe cos + another pity hero tome release or two (and then an ogre tease or something). Then I assume 40k is starting up their end of edition narrative soon? Any rumours as to whats coming for them. Curious what they'll do for old world, other than the minor tk release I don't think they've seen anything since cathay. Will be interesting to see what direction they'll take.
>>96789659Yeah thinking about we will probably get some roadmaps to go alongside the more specific reveals. We've run out of road on all of them at this point, and they did (garbage) roadmaps last Nov also.
>>96788957>>96788963nice thing is that it's two units in the box, or one reinforced.
>>96789739Oh, they aren't minimum 20? I thought they were like clanrats.
>>96789750Surprisingly no, they're 10 base
>>96787021>TQAoS Total War. Lord of the Rings Conquest but AoS.Skaventide but AoS.
>>96787021I know im probably the only person who has played them in this board in all likelihood, but a spell force for aos would be good.
>>96788788>war despot is badWhat the hell is wrong with you?
>>96789795>AoS total warwhat would the map be in AoS total war? Is it just stuck in Ghyran or is there going to be portals between realms or how is that supposed to work?
>>96789969>what would the map be in AoS total war?these maps, with portals connecting them, and armies moving across them much faster than the normal scale of total war maps, to justify including them all without making the game unreasonably largeor make a new location specifically for the game, some place where it could be reasonable to find all armies
>>96787021>tqComfy kharadron citybuilder>>96789969Total war has a theatre system like in empire that could in theory be ported over. However I think the best solution is just to have the game take place in 1 map, say the great parch in aqshy, or the heartlands in ghur. Portals and shit don't really translate to strategy games, it's just annoying to keep track of.
>>96789938It’s probably just a dislike of the weapon, kinda wish the not soul stones were replaced with skulls with flames coming out of them personally.
>>96789938I don't like his beard armor or his stupid glaive design. I actually prefer the Underworlds character for a War Despot.
>>96790040Yeah the green batteries are stupid and a gem or something similar would have been much better
>>96789938Despot's smug aura mocks low status betas
Many people are dumping their HoH boxes already. Sad!
>>96790165(you)
>>96790165>one person>many people they/them in the bio doesn't mean they're a group, anon
>>96790165>impulse bought a whole army boxSounds like the kind of person who just buys the new thing and has a closet full of shit they haven't painted.
>karl marks>can't control his rampant need to consoomLel
>>96790286He seized the means of consumption
>>96790286>>96790347>a spectre is haunting Canada
Newfag in the "detailed" painting, gotta thank some anons with paint mix and the shading/contrast helpGonna ask tho', any choice in paint to give it the feel of rust like the ogre kingdoms/Death guard?
>>96790420>death guard How rusty are you looking for?
>>96790165I have heard that people didn't liked the box because it didn't have the blunderbussersBut gotta ask, was the box worth the price with those minis?>>96788957>>96788963Slittaz are decent purchase, 20 minis, cheap, and surprisingly better looking than the slave hobgrots from the Chorfs
>>96790443Such a sick looking mini anonDo like that rust color, but i feel maybe a lil' bit more orange-look
>>96790450>But gotta ask, was the box worth the price with those minis?$230 USD worth of minis + battletome for $200, it's not the worst deal imaginable
>fyreslayers/dispossessed getting golemsThat's neat. Any clues as to what they might look like? I'm hoping to something like hellboy's golden army
>>96790490Pure ur gold
has anyone in the US actually been able to order from the hachette website?i get to the checkout stage and then it just keeps throwing me non descript errors at the payment information, with both paypal and manually inserting a card number.was gonna get a bunch of gits stuff but it literally wont let me click buy lol
>>96790490I was sad i couldn't get those minis, the only ones atm are at ebay either full starter set with the game, single mini being sold, or a store price + shipping
>>96790490I want a big golden statue of Grimir with alt build that melted into a Vulcartix looking freak
>>96790490They'll probably be similar to Dominator engines but with dwarf heads and magma beards
>>96787045Because AoS has a lame aesthetic.
>>96787046>you would think fantasy players would be just as happy with AoS chorfs since all you need to proxy with them is a square base, but I guess not.Why would Fantasy players be happy with AoS models? They have a poor design language.
>>96790540>samefagging your low effort bait 14 hours laterrope yourself asap
fucking hell, i miss when we had a mod that would actually purge the trolls
>>96790560Just ignore em, it’s just one dude anyways.
>>96790560Yeh, no. You'd get a 3 day ban not the troll most of the time. Now it's jsut all unmoderated, which at least doesn't get you banned
>>96790530>similar to Dominator engines but with dwarf heads
>>96790582Do fyre slayers even have any other symbology besides their magmadroths? Wonder if the new dwarves will lean in on that Asian symbology…
>>96790569at least it's very easy to filter most trolls in generals since they always cycle between only a couple different baits
>>96790590They're very heavy on key iconography. Their leaders have keyblades. Thier priests hold keys.
>>96787045People liked the idea of Chaos Dwarfs more than they did the Chaos Dwarfs themselves. Which is fair considering how bad the HoH range is.
I NEED JANNIES TO PROTECT ME FROM PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE THE HOH RANGE
>>96790490the chuardins are using taboo shit to animate theirs, which means normal dwarfs wouldn't be able to achieve the same results with normal runic magic.meaning they will be clockwork golems, and possibly not made by the dwarfs at all, but rather the already canon gholemkindPart of me hopes they look somewhat more esoteric, but I'm sure they'll end up looking like ogre-sized kharadrons with cogs and gears visible in-between the joints instead
Was really hoping there would be a regiment of renown of the bulls so I can take em in my tzeentch army. At least the mortars look cool, dunno if I can capitalize on them though?
>>96790755?
>>96790530I don't think they'll be quite that big, probably more stormcast annihilator sized if I had to guess.>>96790590They fucking love keys, and lots of brazier motifs on their weapons. At least on the characters.>>96790643>people liked the idea of chaos dwarfs mors than they did chaos dwarfs themselvesThis seems to be a very common pattern among warhammer fans specifically. Once something is gone suddenly there's all these people coming out of the woodworks to say they always liked x and its a shame how gw removed them. Even secondaries are susceptible to this, as evidenced by total war players clamoring that skaven or lizardmen or xyz won't be a complete army until they get some obscure conversions shown off once in a white dwarf in 1992 or whatever the fuck. Strange behaviour.
We know what's staying for Fyreslayers but what about Ogors?
>>96790776Ogors... didn't make it
>>96790776Literally just the gnoblars, everything besides the gun ogres are gone.
>>96790755Kharadrons will be souped into the one book of grudgelets in 5th anyway.
>>96790776We already had the full breakdown. Metal and cannons are getting kicked out + they lose their older terrian's rules.Rest stays as is
>>96790776Per boole:3 Unique heroes:Unique Tyrant (Monster, Daughter of Globb Glittermaw)Unique Butcher (War Machine)Unique Maneater (Female Maneaters Warmaster)New HuntersNew MournfangsNew ButchersNew TyrantNew Ogor GluttonsNew IorngutsAND MORE FATTY THINGSRIP Icebrow HunterRIP Frost SabresRIP FirebellyRIP Icefall YheteesRIP LeadbelchersRIP Great MawpotRIP Tyrant(2019)
>>96790420There's a lot of options for doing rust that I've seen in my prep for working on some Death models. The big one is Dirty Down Rust, which seems to be a general favorite among a lot of people. Otherwise you can just use various browns and oranges to do various rust colors. Typhus Corrosion or another texture-based paint for adding texture to your rust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35UbIvqrbnU&pp=ygUOd2FyaGFtbWVyIHJ1c3Q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Iy2BWAC5Q&pp=ygUOd2FyaGFtbWVyIHJ1c3Q%3D
>>96790776the post on TGA said nothing about gnoblars, the ironblaster kit, the stonehorn kit, the mawpit, and of course gorgerseverything else seems it will be updated or removed
>>96790799>RIP FirebellyWell looks like he's just coming in the Quest
>>96790799Do feel that Yhetees only had one appearance, if they had more variants they could have stayed(?)The one who didn't deserve the axe were the gun-ogres
Anyone have the AoS Soulbound RPG books?
>>96790776>that pic God I love the ogre models so much mixing between kits
>>96790813Axing leadbelchers is such a weird decision man, they've got a great unique look in their army and in general. maybe they'll turn up in CoS as more city ogors
>>96790819
>>96790850>spoilerWould actually be great
>>96790811That would've been mentioned considering he leaked most of Darkwater for Maggotkin. Keep huffin hopium I guess
>>96790893he didn't leak everything and it's not a given the ogre in this Warhammer quest will survive as a separate blister integrated into the proper game
>>96790905It just be a fireeater because I see red!
>>96790893We know it's and ogorand he's weirdly oragne for an unknown reason. Being a fire ogor makes sens
>>96790821Better buy before the refresh because they will almost certainly be more monopose and less customizable than the fantasy sculpts.
>>96790942it might very much be one, it's a safe bet as far as I'm concerned, I'm just not expecting the model or unit concept to make its way back to the new ogre range, it'll just stay in warhammer quest.
>>96790955nta but i got rid of my ogres a few years ago, and im honestly glad. i liked the models pretty well, but i hated that their playstyle kept getting more and more glass cannon as the editions went on. i signed up to play a wall of meat, and ended up getting medium fast fighters with grot level saves at elf level prices per wound. their treatment of the ogres in game has been just absolutely terrible, and completely antithetical to the lore and designs, where ogres have skin so thick is practically armor, they can endure everwinter without a shirt on and sheathe their swords through their skin because they are so durable.
>>96790955Jokes on you, I already bought pic related for cheap and 2 BCR start collectings, I'm ready for AOS and hopefully TOW once ogre drops (double dipping)>>96790993GW made the mistake of just bringing back normal ogre kingdoms instead of focusing on BCR that had a unique ice theme and cool gimmick with the everwinter
>>96790852Thanks but do you also have the Era of the Beast book as well?
>>96790799Also maneaters are coming later and frost sabrescome with the new hunters like the gryphound of the knight-judicator
>>96790799>RIP Tyrant(2019)Are they really squatting that tyrant because he has a pistol?
>>96791096Oh yeh, all the suplement shit was in another folder. Try looking here
>>96791046Based double dipper
>>96791109No, it was the target of a lawsuit from a Mexican theampark company over some coprright bullshit and GW decided to remove him rather than settle
>>96791109no, it's because they plan on selling you a pricier one
>>96790799Based GW making even more factions majority led by women. I wonder if they will also paint half the ogres with African skin tones.
>>96790450>But gotta ask, was the box worth the price with those minis?It's about the same value proposition as any other armybox, which is to say decent if you factor in the free battletome, otherwise fairly meh.
>>96790850They probably want to move them to TOW. You can just rename gluttons/bulls and give them new sculpts for generic basic Ogor warriors. If you have a unit of cannon carrying Ogors it’s obvious it’s leadbelchers.
>>96791283TOW has been out for two years now and hasn't touched a single Legacy Army, instead they're doing a second round of arcane journals for the existing armies. Sounds increasingly like cope, honestly.
>>96791283Eh, but all the bcr stuff stays? I don't think that's really an issue here.>>96791338Nta but surely tow's gotta start bringing out legacy factions at some point right, I mean it's that or expanding cathay, and they're only a fraction of the playerbase. I guess they could expand more with kislev and vcoast, but that's probably a way's away. I mean people are already playing legacy factions a fair bit, most of them have lots of ancient kits they can rerelease and make money on.
>>96791359>I mean it's that or expanding cathay,Boole has confirmed they're expanding Cathay, btw, along with other leakers.
>>96791366Also, long term, just shitting out a bunch of old models is not really their business plan. They're going to keep putting out new/updated models because the nostalgia cash grab only goes so far. It's not like they have an unlimited budget either, if they add legacy armies it's one more thing they have to support and taking away support that could be going to new or core armies instead.
>>96791338>TOW has been out for two years now and hasn't touched a single Legacy ArmyGW operates on a 3 year cycle so that checks out, they probably first push all the cathay stuff out and kislev if that is still a thing and then work on the legacy factions >>96791359>but all the bcr stuff stays?That's not really a issue stuff like gitz fanatics and mangler squigs have rules but no TOW models because they are technically part of the AOS range.If they bring back ogres they just give the stonehorn rules and people will know what to do.
>>96791385>It's not like they have an unlimited budget eitherThe molds already exist and I doubt that the plastic price is the issue, the bigger problem is that GW production capacity is probably reaching its limits with them being unable to start a new factory because of electricity issues.
>>96791413>they bring back ogresWithout any units except a few metal heroes and cannons?10/10 army
>>96791453>unable to start a new factory because of electricity issues.Yet another reason why AI should be taken out back and shot. Using all our electricity and water. Fucking cunts.
>>96791453I thought they were getting btfo by a rare bat species or something and that's why their factory got delayed.>>96791537No you see tiktok NEEDS to generate a description for every 5 second video on that godforsaken app
>tows been out for 2 years Huh? I was sure it was after skaventide.
>>96791573It launched during Dawnbringer (and its launch failed to outsell AoS in a period when the only new AoS releas was the Darkoath box lol)
>>96791653Not to provoke another consolewar shitfest but I thought The of World did fairly well on release?
>>967916716th spot in that only ranking we have. Lower than AoS has ever been and several top 5 contenders have died over the years
>>96791691That ranking is for a limited number of US only third party suppliers and isn't an actual measure of sales. Bones was #8 and as a Euro I have never heard of seen that in any store ever. Also the US is 40k territory, Fantasy was always more popular in Europe.
>>96791718The US is also just under 50% of GW's entire market
>>96791718GW shareholder reports exist, anon. TOW is doing well but the least of all their offerings.
>>96791968they're lying in their reports to assure shareholders AoS wasn't a massive mistake. it would look bad to admit the game you cancelled to waste millions of R&D to replace is doing better than the replacementI expect AoS to simply reduce in output until it's gone after WHFs massive success
>>96791968>the least of all their offeringsIs there a new report with numbers? None of the old investors reports I read quantified different game systems by revenue. Considering how unpopular HH I am having a hard time believing it out sells TOW. Like HH is basically only a thing in the US and UK.
>>96792000They're listed by priority and TOW is always just "doing better than expected, plan to expand"
>>96792017What do you mean listed by priority? As in order? Because in that case I can pull up one of the reports that lists TOW before AoS. I’m not saying TOW sells more, just that your assumption is incorrect. Unless you believe TOW outsold AoS that quarter
>>96791718Doesn't change the fact that TOW was selling much worse than AoS in the US even at peak release hype and has fallen off the charts entirely since then. Not even bashing TOW with that, just objectively, it's not doing THAT well.
>>96787312>>96787316>>96787321
Reminder that a random lower rank AoS sculptor imediatly took over as lead in ToW. Doesn't sound like suits were happy with the existing ToW team with fucking them all over for promotions and had to get someone from AoS to save thta shitshow
>>96790776Whats happening with dorfs?
>>96792050They really shouldve done a warband with some of the different types of spiders that exist
>>96792059Dispossessed are already gone Fyreslayers are losing some heroes and the main infantry kit Dispossessed are getting a new range souper with the leftover Fyreslayers
>>96792056I heard aos is just trans and queer poc staff at this point because everyone else has moved to the old world
>>96792035>much worse Again that chart doesn’t cover actual US sales it covers a limited number of third party LGS’s that opted in to give sales data. You seem to be treating it as a sample that gives concrete data when the sample size is obfuscated and therefore worthless. It could have been 1000 stores or it could have been 10 stores.
>>96792056Bunch of new job openings went up for AoS recently, including one for "Skirmish/Warhammer Quest game designer" They appear to be expanding.
>>96792056>random lower rank guy The guy who did Ush and the recent Prince on zombie drake?
>>96792107It's actually the opposite. the warcry lead quit and does youtube videos now praising everything about GW prior to aosthey're losing talent like a hole in a bucket but thankfully total war is there below it like a sponge
>>96792101That only matters if you have hard evidence the sampling is uniquely biased against TOW in some way. It's a reputable industry survey that's been around for many years and consistently shows popular games at the top. Dismissing the data because it doesn't line up with your expectations is silly.
>>96792122He wasnt really in charge of the overall soulblight range update so I dont really mind desu. NTA, just a heads up. Now I just need a sculptor who can expand either the vyrkos or avengorri line...
sigmar quest is obviously a retooled TOW release and it hurts it's not looking good bros I was really hoping for more strong black female miniatures to use in cities of sigmar
>>96792135>reputable industry survey >doesn’t list methodology or survey size American public education strikes again
>>96792135it's literally run by outspoken TOW haters
>>96792138But it’s the same guy who did Ush and the Prince right? If so that’s a big loss for us, both of those are amazing.
>>96792159The people behind it literally have a thing against aos lmao.
>>96792144>reputable industry surveyYes. Highly reputable and well known, referenced everywhere. You increasingly sound like you only heard about it last week in the context that TOW didn't perform as well as you thought it would and so you're slinging any mud you can find to try and obscure the facts.
>>96792161Yeah but we still have the new CoS range and Gitmob sculptor
>>96792161eh, his infantry sculpts are rather meh. So no, not really.
>>96792135Again, they dont provide sample sizes so it is worthless. It would be rejected by any journal for being a worthless citation. And again, there’s multiple product lines that I’ve not only never seen there I’ve never even heard of prior to seeing the list (Bones?). If you graduated high school you should be educated enough to know why that list is not valuable.
>>96792161He's talented for sure, but all it really signals is that he took the promotion of going from a junior guy on the AoS team to the lead designer at TOW. Most people would in his shoes.
>>96792173>reputable industry survey >no sample size American public education has been a disaster for the human race.
>>96792186>I never heard of Bones so the survey is obviously riggedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaper_MiniaturesReaper Miniatures is a relatively large player in the US. If you haven't heard of them that's on you.
>>96792186Reaper is pretty big man. Most people that run proxies in my tow scene use a bunch of their stuff. Cheap as hell and are A LOT better than the shit gw pushed out for fb. doubly so for something like beastmen minotarus.
>>96790799I always knew the firebelly's days were numbered and only bought him because the model is so cool (despite finecast) but losing leadbelchers hurts. If they end up removing black powder from the ogors I'll probably drop the army.
>>96792238you're keeping the cannons, which is odd, because if they're dropping the belchers, why not just give em the cannons too?
>>96792243From the sounds of it they're replacing the leadbelchers with Hunters which is still pretty cool, but it's an odd move for sure. Makes me wonder if that one anon is right that they want to distance them from (future) CoS Ogors a little bit.
>>96791985Look, I get you want to hate on AoS, but what you just said is incredibly retarded. Lying on shareholder reports is VERY illegal and a "Mistake" doesn't get over a goddamn decade of continual and growing support. You can come up with conspiracy theories all you want but all the actual evidence points to the contrary.
>>96792265I mean, there's a nonzero chance that the hunters might still have guns somehow.
>>96792344>all the actual evidence points to the contrary.I am not that guy but the only evidence that points in any direction is worthless because it has no sample size. The only definitive thing we know about how well or poorly TOW did is that it did better than GW expected it to do, and they are expanding the scope relative to the original plan. That comes from GW so it's reliable but also too vague to really mean much, without knowing their initial expectations.
>>96792128he designed war cry AND spearhead (both of which are AoS IP, mind you) and has had nothing negative to say about AoS except being against i-go-you-go, you disingenuous shitbrain
>>96792350>inb4 boole meant cavemen as in the hills have eyes kind of primitive
>>96792388So if they are cavemen can we assume they will stay light skinned? GW seems to be fine avoiding diversity if it's not flattering.
>>96792378I mean, yes, but I was mostly referring to the doom and gloom that poster was trying to foster towards AoS. And, like I said, The game has gotten just over a decade of continual support since launch, including some tie in games (Albeit all mid at best) which just... isn't something you do for a failed product line.
I got the skaven half of the tide box from a friend for 50 bucks and then another set of 20 clanrats for 20 dollarsI know I want at least one box of stormvermin once I paint through my backlog, what else should I aim for?
>>96792388>>96792395he later clarified that the redesign isn't cavemen, they're just scaling back their blackpowder shit.
>>96792388English?
>>96792405So black ogres are back on the menu? Please let the named character be a black lady Ogor. It would be so funny.
>>96792412other than a lack of hyphens and proper noun capitalization in "The-Hills-Have-Eyes," anon's post was perfect english
Why don't the Helsmiths have artillery trains as units? Is James stupid?
>>96792484Who needs artillery trains when you have the Great Gatsby
>>9679240112 Ratling GunsScreaming BellVerminlord DeceiverDeathmaster4 Doomflayers
>>96792492They even have the eyes of god too!
How mad would fake grogs be if one day there was a named female skaven who wasn't a fat broodmother?
>>96792506I think they'd cum
>>96792506Caring about lore being changed to suit modern political ideologies doesn't make a person a fake grog anon.
>>96792497Do they even sell the ratling gunners anymore
>>96792506They'd hurt themselves in confusion over trying to be angry while also gooning.
>>96792662They're in the Weapons Team box. That box bas 3 different build options.
>>96792506Give me a Pestliens Skaven domme character and I will buy 2k points of Skaven on the spot. Give me a Moulder Skaven domme character and I'll buy 5k of Skaven on the spot
>>96792676>telling him to buy 12 3unit boxes to build 12 of a single weapondevious
>>96792056What's wrong with the new TOW sculpts? or do you mean someone from the AoS team moved to TOW to make the new Cathay and Tomb king models?
>>96790769I wish GW would just wholesale steal elder scrolls dwemer shit for KO.
>>96787045>why did the Helsmiths of Hashut flop?I like the original designs better
>>96792745stop replying to your own stale bait
>>96792709You can get 3 Ratling Guns per box
>>96792506This is what happened to the Beastmen, they asked too much for gor babes they had to destroy them and send them to ToWSource: Me and my big tiddy gor GF
>>96792750>IF YOU DISLIKE HOH YOURE THE SAME GUYKek I am glad to have mind broken you into believing I am everywhere.
>>96789938I highly believe anon that they could have played better with his pose + weaponLooking at him 1st glance it feels that he's a mage in that picture, considering he has a glaive, he could have been poiting his weapon foward or doing a swing with that new effect of green shit around
96792769>it totally isn't me I'm just here as soon as you're bringing me up
>>96792791Yes I am monitoring this thread and posting here and there but you’ve responded to multiple people claiming that I am them and it’s very entertaining to watch you become more and more paranoid.
>>96792680What about a Verminus domme?
>>96792797NTA but i'm also gonna chime in and say you're one guy
>>96792797Very believable
>>96792797>having this much time on your hands
>>96792932You guys dont have phones?
If Warcry lives, I hope it goes to Ulgu
>>96792904They don't come across as a fat rat clan
>/40kg/ all rules/books in OP>/hhg/ all rules/books in OP>/wfg/ all rules/books in OP>/aosg/ no rules/books in OPWhy?
>>96793082people kept taking it down, does the 40k one still work?
>>96793093Yes, everyone has full working rules for free except /aosg/
>>96792497Oh I've already got a deathmaster actually, forgot I got him a while back before skaventide droppedWill add the rest of this, maybe minus the verminlord, never been crazy about those sculpts
>>96793109huh, weird. usually some guy'll drop it here when you ask. I do think we should start sticking them in the op.
>>96793135>I do think we should start sticking them in the op.Probably a good idea, I don't play AoS but I came here to browse the books only to be surprised that you're the only GW system here that doesn't actually have any links.
>>96793146We have extremely dedicated spergs who will shit up the threads for weeks at a time
>>96793189Sorry fuck sorry I have multiple tabs open I am delting this as soon as it lets me sorry
Why does 4chan make you wait to delete a post? It's fucking stupid.
>>96792484For the same reason that railway guns in real life were a bad idea, their poor mobility from one point to another.
>>96793359Yeah of course, famously grounded AoS is using logistical reasoning in determining which units to include or discard lmao
>>96792750retard
>>96787045They didnt flop. You may dislike them for any reason, but they were accepted by the great majority of the players. Stop being delusional.
>>96793655Better hurry they are selling fast! (There’s 1 more listing than before which means someone probably refunded LMAOOOO)
ohh the anti-HoH sperg is MAD mad
>>96792497>12 Ratling Guns>3 in a box>$57 each
>>96793691>Anon discover resellers and scalpers in a product he doesnt like> "lol, it flops lol lol lol lol, flops flops flops"Please, you can do better than that.
i do think the box has a real problem of just not being a great value. you've got a 10 man squad of single wound infantry, a 5 wound combat foot hero who's not a wizard or priest, and then the dominator engine and warmachine which are both kinda small. for $200thats just not amazing value. its still a savings and fans of the army will probably get it, but i dont think its a good enough deal to draw people in who wouldnt otherwise have thought about the army in the same way something like a christmas deal box or an edition starter would be.
>>96793707don't give him attention
>>96793707>resellers>scalpers>shop appLmao it's an app that aggregates stores that sign up for it. HoH flopped on their faces.
>>96793691>GW release the army set and it went out of stock in 3 languages in elss than 24 hours.> 2 months later, GW release the whole set of miniatures, books, spearhead, more army sets, etc> the same day, "a lot" of randoms no-faces appear and stary crying about disliking HoH and crying "it flops", while all this time people were happy with them.Mmmmm, curious, curious. What a coincidence. I think someone jealous and resentful is trying to spread misinformation and hate.
Is the appeal of HoH that they're the chaos faction for people who hate chaos? I don't really get it.
organic.
>>96793776No man I genuinely wanna talk about what you like about these fuckers because they don't do shit for me and I feel like I'm the defective one because I'm the only one who doesn't seem to like them
>>96793744You know it's a limited print set right? With more stores getting copies over time. People are actively refunding it that's how bad HoH are flopping right now. I love AoS but this is pretty bad for HoH.
>>96793784Most actual chaos dwarf veterans rejected them. Not overwhelming 90% no on all the kits but a majority rejected every kit except the centaurs. Don't let the shills here gaslight you into thinking the HoH are doing well. The stock in stores makes it crystal clear that they flopped.
>>96793796I'm not interested in talking to you, Mr. Falseflag. You just want to sabotage people like me.
>>96793771they're a dwarf faction first, and a chaos faction a distant second
>>96793800No I really don't. I genuinely dislike the HoH look and from what I can see in terms of (a lack) sales is that most hobbyists tend to agree with us. There's a few loud shills here but they don't actually represent the community. How many HoH models have you seen posted here? There's what? 1 guy.
>>96793806You're the only 1guy hereKeep seething that people enjoy something no matter how much you spam about how bad it is
>>96793802Maybe that's it. I don't really give a fuck about dwarfs; I was just drawn in by the potential of daemon engines and big guns.>>96793806Your parlance is inflammatory to a degree that makes it difficult for me to believe your sincerity. I don't call people "shills" for disagreeing with me.
>>96793796>48 total votes>25 of which said they wouldn't buy itthis is the equivalent of saying, half the people at your LGS didn't buy it.
Threadly reminder.
>>96793816That is one of the oldest still active Chaos Dwarf forums that has been up for decades you newfag zoomer.
>>96793827Nobody cares about your site with 50 voters
>>96793827Goteslopper this is just pathetic at this point
>>96793815>i dont give a fuck about dwarfs>why dont i like this dwarf army nyeeeeghlol you have no one to blame but yourself
>>96793825I'm still not sure the context for why you're posting this.>>9679382725 fucking people, please swallow some bleach
>>96793815>I don't call people "shills" for disagreeing with me.It's hard to view them as anything else when they get so personally offended that they have to frothingly lie about how well a release is doing.>>96793829My point was that you >>96793816 were completely wrong. It's the opposite. It isn't a random sample of 48 people at a warhammer store. It's a sample of the people who have kept the chaos dwarf torch lit and carried for decades, and a majority reject the new kits. If you think about their situation, they should be the easiest people ever to get to buy the range. But most of them don't want it. That's how bad GW fucked up HoH
>>96793835I mean, LoA had a lot of stuff that would have interested me if I played back then...Also, I usually like chaos factions. In every Warhammer game I play a chaos faction.
>>96793842You're the one flying into a rage that people don't care about your spam
>>96793827>poll from forum that stagnated into an echo chamber Thats like me getting you a poll from reddit or blue sky
>>96793796>>96793816>>96793827>>96793836Both sides of this are trying argumentum ad populum, for the record. It doesn't actually matter how many people like or dislike a thing when discussing the merits of it between individuals. No one will say "Oh, I now like/dislike this because you've shown that enough people like/dislike it".
>>96793836>I'm still not sure the context for why you're posting this.anon its a simple question. let it ruminate in your head.
>>96793846then just go get LoA off a recaster for pennies on the dollar. they use the same unit roster almost exactly
>>96793771They're like the Iron Warriors from 40k. Technologically advanced, heavy artillery, have a disdain for Chaos but acknowledge its use as a powerful tool to bend to their will. They gaslight themselves into thinking that they're above being corrupted by Chaos.
>>96793884except chorves are cool and IW are fucking lame
>>96793884>They're like the Iron Warriors from 40k.Buddy, I play IW. That's part of the disappointment for me. The appeal of the IW is that they're hypocritical to a visible degree, being littered with chaos iconography and corruption despite their delusion of being in control. HoH seem to just play it straight and actually be in control, which is just lame and kind of wanky. >Oh but they have tusks! This guy has horns!Yeah okay wake me up when they have something like a fucking Obliterator.Their daemon engine sucks ass too.
>>96793842No, you dumb fuck. Its doesnt means HoH are bad, it means that those 50 retarded grognards dislike anything thats not a copy-paste of their 30 years old army. They will die before acepting something new. They are too stubborn and imbecile to acept they are trapped in a cagebof their own hate and nostalgia. They dont have autority, weight or importance in "Helsmiths of Hashut are good or bad??".
>>96793908> being littered with chaos iconography and corruption>HoH seem to just play it straightyeahexcept, you know, the fact that everyone has demonic tusks, their elites are half bull mutants and their wizards are turning to stone
>>96793910I was bracing myself for literally any outcome except the one that we got.>They could look like old hat chorfsOkay. Ready.>They could look like LoAOkay. Ready.>They could look like Horns of HashutOkay. Ready.>They ended up being a weird arcane art deco-y thing Uhhhh?
>>96793924You weren't bracing yourself for anythingyou have 5 old world beastmen you bought off ebay you use to avoid accusations of you being the shitstirring nomodels that you are
>>96793926Would posting an unfinished box of Horns of Hashut or a Daemonsmith do anything to convince you that I'm not that guy?
>>96793924go print old hat chorfs, some guy modeled the whole range and gave it out for freego buy legion of aghor, recasters have them for like $20 a kitwhy you expected an age of sigmar refresh to look anything like an oldhammer or midhammer army after lumineth, kharadron, kruleboyz, hedonites, deepkin, sylvaneth, etc etc etc is entirely on you. and this like the 10th thread at least that you've shit up with 1000 posts complaining about it for the last several months.
>>96793918Those really seem like small time compared to other chaos mutations. One's an aesthetic thing that they seem to take pride in, one's a blessing from their god, and one only applies to wizards and is less a random mutation and more a targeted curse.
>>96793935>why you expected an age of sigmar refresh to look anything like an oldhammer or midhammer army after lumineth, kharadron, kruleboyz, hedonites, deepkin, sylvaneth, etc etc etc is entirely on you.Except most of all I was expecting them to look like the Horns of Hashut, especially with that teaser icon of the metal mask with the horns and chains and furnace grate face. That *would* have been new and different — while remaining "chaosy" enough to please me.
>>96793935>and this like the 10th thread at least that you've shit up with 1000 posts complaining about it for the last several months.It REALLY has to be autism at this point. Probably pounding the sides of his head in anger between posts because people don't see the situation as unreasonably as he does.
>>96793857This is why I link the shop app listings. You can't argue with stock that isn't moving.
>>96793947I was hyped up for these guys for years! I was the guy at the LGS saying "hey, chorfs are coming" and whom nobody believed until it actually happened. I'm allowed to be bit miffed! Not to sound entitled, but I kinda feel like I deserved to be pleased by the release.
>>96793932These guys have been slowly losing their minds. There's a few people here voicing distaste of HoH and they all think it's me. It's flattering and very funny.
>>96793955I still don't like you.
>>96793955You're 90% of the posts and you're very identifiable with your autistic tantrums
>>96793944The 4 eyes blackrock (orc of Warcraft) train dwarf?? You wanted that ugly vanilla thing? At least HoH still has some babylonian things. That icon was disgustinly bland as fuck.
>>96793960I don't hide or deny when I post. You keep chasing shadows.
>>96793948That would also be AAP, genius. "You can't like it because it sells poorly" is not a rational thought process.>>96793965I don't care about the Babylonian shit. I wanted industrial chaos with spikes and chains and cogs and daemon engines. Again, I play IW.
>>96793972You can like it. I am not saying they didn't sell a single army set. I am saying that it flopped because it's limited edition but in stock in 618 stores and that number will probably only rise going off today
Anybody have the city of secrets to share?
>>96793978I don't give a fuck if it "flopped" or sold like hotcakes, you stupid fuck. That doesn't factor. I buy unpopular shit all of the time. I have a fucking soul grinder.
>trying to force the FW Chaos Dwarfs are Warcraft memeLMAO every accusation a confession
>>96793987pedophile codephrase
>>96793987What? We weren't even talking about LoA there. Get your head on straight.
>>96793987They're not warcraft, they're 3rd party 3d print tier over designed unreadable sloppa
>>96793972You want to play generic chaos undivided dudes. Maybe you should try StD or Skavens
>>96793996Slaves have no machines (ANYMORE! FUCK!) and the changes to Skryre in 4th... hmm, I think I'll spare you from a separate autistic tantrum on that one.
>I would totally buy thing if they made it, I'd buy a whole army>thing comes out>uhm I could buy them I just don't like them now heheThis is a tale that repeats itself with every single refresh. It's just poorfags and spergs looking for excuses not to hobby
soon...
>>96794050>I will buy this thing if it's like X Y or Z, in fact I got a headstart on Z>It comes out and it's W>I don't buy itThis is not contradictory
>>96794054I love Umbraneth but I would NEVER EVER buy their models.
>not a wizard anymore>doesn't buff anything like the other warlocks do>not even a bonus hero for regimentsWhat the fuck were they thinking? Why would I ever take this? I got into this game with Rattachak's Doom Coven, but now the sight of this model just pisses me the fuck off. It's emblematic of everything that I hate about 4th edition. Fuck.
Now we're recycling whine posts from early 4e? Shit's like word for word.
>>96794170Well, those things haven't been ameliorated, so...
>>96794170Goteslopper has been preparing for years for this moment.
>>96794186I'm not that guy.
>>96794170He doesn't know Emglish very well and relies on a Word doc his buddy wrote for him
>>96794200Okay, insulting my parlance is the one thing that will absolutely get at me. I pride myself on my loquaciousness. When's the last time you heard someone drop an "ameliorate"?
>>96794205me last week in a job interview
>>96794205>look at my propensity for verbosity!!!
>>96794165Seems like a good choice as a cheap skryre leader who can snipe mobs and protect points from a distance.
>>96794208Oh. Well, that's good.>>96794210It's a Kafka trap. There's nothing that I could have said to satisfy you.Listen, guys, I know you have a troll that's been super negative about stuff lately, but I'm not him. I argue with him; I hate him. I just want you to acknowledge that I'm simply my own very annoying and whiny person, and not that bad-faith troll. I'm just a sincerely autistic perfectionist who melts down when anything goes wrong for me.>>96794220Cheap leaders don't cut it with this regiment system, man. Maybe if he were a bonus hero, but he's not.
Chaos Dwarfs looked like shit then and they look like shit now.
>>96790045>I actually prefer the Underworlds character for a War Despot.W*man.
>>96794315You can’t handle a bad bitch with a belly and an attitude? Your loss, and Hashut frowns on you for it
>>96789795>Lord of the Rings Conquest Wtf is this gaming deep cut lmao
Morning aosg, I see we fell for it again
>>96792506it's ok only if it's a grey seer, an eshin assassin or a verminlordand even then it's better if she's ugly and still somewhat fatexcept for the eshin assassin, she's allowed to look cute and sexy, but she should talk or have her ugly snout visible
>>96794365>but she should talk*not
TOW and AoS discord server trolls area attacking both threads now, not only ours.
>>96794376>40k is currently free of ongoing shitposting
>>96794382Do you think is 40K trying to make us fight or something? Or maybe the trolls dont care about 40k? (because 40k community isnt sane or good)
>>96794365What if the grey seer is pretty to us but hideous to skaven
>>96794418only if it's pretty in a cute way and not in a sexy waythem's the rules
I can't prove it but I think the nation of Poland is behind the attacks
Tomorrow, new Warhammer Quest reveal? I hope they show us all the heroes (even the druid, the kurnothi and the firebelly), or some enemies. Something beyond 1 sad model.
>>96794475I'm betting on the water sword lady
>>96794484Yeah, if they show only 1 model of the heroes in the cover, i want the water lady.
>>96793948What app is it? Seems fairly useful.
>>96794585Shop app
Anyone has Kharadron 4ed and 2ed tomes to share?
which faction will get squatted next?
>>96794597Thanks. Searches are busted though, shows far more than only the army set.>>96794618Gitmob inshallah
PLEASE!ANYONE has Kharadron Overlords 4ed and 2ed tomes to share?
>>96793039Hell yeah!
>>96793691Do you have a life? Or are you that much of a pathetic loser
>>96794814Don't feed him anonAs seen by >>96794642 his bait is meaningless anyway
>>96793691Hmmm, sold out at every LGS
FOR THE LOVE OF GRUNGI,ANYONE has Kharadron Overlords 4ed and 2ed tomes to share?
>>96794860SELLING FAST
>>96794903It's sold out. On eBay they're only selling for more than brand new
>>96794618Tzeentch, they're so dated with no new units since launch
>Mock stonecast statue painters for years >All their squatted models are perfectly primed to effortlessly transition to terrain They won
>>9679498290% of stormcast squatted models are perfect proxies for other shit.Like yeah the sacrosanct dude with a hammer and a shield looks different from the modern guys with hammers and shields, but it's still a stormcast with a hammer and shield. There's a few exceptions like the ballista of course, but on the whole their squatting wasn't as catastrophic as you might think at first glance.The bigger issue here is that gw keeps putting stormcast in starter sets, so there's going to be a cull every 6 years or so. They really should just experiment with other factions in the starter sets. Although it looks like they're doing exactly that with the rumoured skaven vs cos spearhead starter.
New WHU Organised Play kit for Spitewood:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jruf1ntp/enter-the-spitewood-with-a-new-warhammer-underworlds-organised-play-pack
>>96794868Anyone? KO 4ed tome?
>When Morathi is still butthurt I kicked her ass
>>96795223>tournament play for a casual skirmish game GW are clueless
>>96795005The ballista is out? Damn, and here I was concentrating on trying to make my Evocators into Prosecutors for the Spearhead."The bigger issue here is that gw keeps putting stormcast in starter sets, so there's going to be a cull every 6 years or so" Yup, I expect every non-Liberator footslogger to get squatted at some point.
>>96795234wow kragnos is such a cool character. i hope they make 5th edition all about him
>>96795247Kragnos is too masculine for current GW.
>>96795229https://gofile.io/d/cLUxjv
>>96795235>casual skirmish gameRead literally any box of UW ever made
>>96795262Bless ya, kind anon!
>>96795223>cards have drawn art againThat's nice, they were good for memes
>>96795304>>cards have drawn art againIt's just the cards exclusive to the play pack. And out of those it's not all the cards that are illustrated.
Anyone got a pdf of Ruins of the Past for soulbound?
>>96795265I play it frequently enough? UW games are brief and casual, it doesn't matter if the former isn't cooperative. We aborted the tournament deck construction pre rivals shit prior for a reason
>>96794860>No, no, NO! You can't look at the official site, popular online stores or ebay or any other mainstream seller that's sold out! The only thing that counts is the rinky dink tiny little stores that no one has ever heard of that are nearly impossible to find without the aid of an app that no one uses, that's the important metric!I snagged my copy of the Armybox early on using that app, btw, when it was already sold out from Warpfire, the official store, and any non-gouging prices on Ebay. Useful, and I'll keep it in mind in the future but thinking it means anything is laughable at best.
>>96795479Try in the links to soulbound stuff itt, maybe it's there
New Darkoath Marauders just dropped.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jaa76ljd/bring-chaos-to-the-old-world-with-a-horde-of-rampaging-marauders/
>>96795628JFC MOGGED
>>96795628
>>96795628That's a lot of details for a chaff but they don't look comically over-the-top while still being clearly inspired by Vikings
>>96795628actual kino
>>96795664What part of them looks viking?
>>96795628Sad to see it's not just AoS getting shafted by GW with>totally buy this nasty old kit! We don't have any plans to refresh it soon! But nice. Can't believe they didn't hold off on TOW until everything could launch with new plastics
>>96795628BoC is in good hands
>>96795628That's a nice box, I could see myself grabbing it for sure. That's one long standing TOW rumor fulfilled, too.
>>96795628What's stopping me from buying this and running it as darkoath?
>>96795694nothing. go for it. you would just need to buy some round bases
>>96795694Absolutely nothing, in the same way there was nothing stopping you from running Darkoath as TOW marauders. Or just mix and match, as I will probably end up doing.
>>96795672Horner helmets, thick cloaks with fur, brutish weapons, beards. All the ingridients of the pop culture viking.
>>96795694Nothing? Official GW stores only take the stance of "purchasable in this store only". 4e basically removed weapon options too. I run Blorcs as Ardboys because I'm nostalgic for pre 3rd edition Ardboys and I already had 15 of them. No one says anything.
>>96795694*I* will.These are NOT FOR YOU. They are FANTASY models.You CHOSE your game, now you LIVE with it and its Warcraft designs.These are NOT. YOURS.
>Cut into AoS profits by running Darkoath with TOW proxies >Cut into TOW profits by running O&G with AoS proxiesthey got me good
>>96795729This is how it should be but GW insists on retarded internal competition
>>96795729I'm at the point where I just can't be bothered to rebase. I have various full or partial AoS armies that got shunted over to TOW (bonesplitters, BoC, Dispossessed) and a larger number of armies/models that can easily be played as proxies, like my Barbarian Heavy STD army. It's not like I go to tournaments anyway, so fuck base autism I'm just gonna run whatever I have as whatever I want, even if it's on a mix of square and round bases. I don't care anymore.
>>96795628Something about these that I just don’t really like. Oh well.
>>96795628>not norscarest in peace, would have been cool to see mammoths in TOW>>96795672>cloth over chainmail>fur boots>helmet with horns>rounded shields>axes>fur cloaks>animal icons on heir banners are a serpent and raven, both very important in viking mythology>the beards and side shave haircutif you can't see the vikings you might be blind
>>96795758I haven't had any problem just slapping rounds on trays and worst case leaving a few models off and just counting them as being there
Wait they were selling those 30 year old marauders for the last 1+ year after "launching" warriors in ToW?Fucking lmao
>>96795778You mean pop culture vikings>side shave haircutTHAT'S WOKE NOT VIKINGS!!!
>>96795760Well there's certainly way less to dislike about these guys than the Darkoath shitFinally I can have chaff in my STD army that doesn't look like old shit OR have fat women among them
>>96795628Damn, pretty nice and detailed. Being ranked up like that makes them blend into each other in a way that I don't like, but as individuals they're quite nice. Might pick these up for darkoath since the basic marauders sucks ass, should've gone for a look closer to the savagers.>>96795694nothing, they're absolutely BEGGING to be put on rounds
>>96795788>pop culture vikingsyeah dickhead, are you playing a game with demons and magic or reading a history textbook? You wanted them to look like this instead?
>>96795783>wow, this is such a good deal! It's a steal to get so many skeletons!
>>96795807yes
>>96795796I kinda prefer the Conan aesthetic the darkoath generally have, as for the strongman woman I wouldn’t mind if they also had some dudes with that body type. It’s whatever, I prefer my acolytes over both of these anyways. It is real sad that gw is moving away from the sword and sandals aesthetic from tow chaos warriors, genuinely tragic.
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