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>>96780894

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>Anders Mage Page
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>White Wolf Wiki:
https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page

>Thread Question
What's your favorite physical flaw/condition and what do you like about it?
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>>96796518
>tq
Changeling's eyes or similar shit because I'm a special snowflake.
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The sky is the colour of unpolished concrete. It stays that way. No one comments.
The walkway spans two tower blocks. Three meters wide. Reinforced. The mist below does not rise above the third floor. This is a rule. The city enforces rules.
I sit on the bench. It is cast from the same mould as all benches. Four metal studs. They do not rust. The city treats rust as a defect. Defects are removed.
I wait. The time is 14:17. The city’s clocks are synchronized to the millisecond. No one is late. No one is early.
He arrives. He has a rabbit’s right paw. The fur is brown. It matches the colour of his coat cuffs. He sits. The bench does not creak. Creaking is a defect.
We do not greet each other. Greetings are redundant. Redundancies are discouraged.
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>>96796950
He places his left hand on the second stud. I place my right hand on the fourth. This is the procedure.
“Did you verify the contents?” he says.
The question is not a request for information. It is a formality.
“The contents are verified,” I say.
He removes his left hand. I remove my right.
He uses the rabbit’s paw to retrieve an envelope from his coat. The claws are clipped to one millimeter. The city requires clipped claws on public walkways. There is a scratch on the paw’s pad. It is 1.8 millimeters long. It is not a defect.
He sets the envelope on the stud between us. The stud is warm. The city heats bench studs to 21 degrees Celsius. This is a comfort measure. No one feels comfort.
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>>96796962
I do not touch the envelope yet. The procedure requires a pause. Ten seconds. I count them. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.
“Your paw does not shed,” I say.
It is not a question. It is an observation. Observations are permitted if they are factual.
“No,” he says. “Shedding is a defect.”
I pick up the envelope. The paper is thick. The city uses thick paper for official correspondence. Thin paper is a defect.
“Will you take the north stairwell?” I say.
The question is not a request for direction. It is a ritual.
“The north stairwell has a crack,” he says. “I will take the west.”
Cracks are noted. Not reported. Reporting is reserved for defects that impede function.
I stand. He stands. The bench is empty. Empty benches are reset at 14:30. Resetting means wiping with a cloth soaked in 3% chlorine solution. This is the procedure.
I walk east. He walks west. We do not look back. Looking back is a sign of uncertainty. Uncertainty is a defect.
The mist below does not move. The sky does not change. The city continues.
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>>96796950
>>96796962
Ah, the glory of Static Reality!
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>>96796370
I would like to read that if you have it on hand.
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>TQ
Beast marks because I’m GANGREL GANG and having permanent scary eyes is cool
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>>96797011
>permanent
Have you tried washing?
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>>96797082
You the dude needing mouth wash
Your breath stinks after trying to talk shit only to end up eating it after I kick your ass
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How much do you think is the average /wodg/ poster's Banality? I'd say around 7 or so since we're utterly stuck in our autistic ways but at same time we actually question things and there is some degree of creativity in these threads.
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>>96797187
8 for the super tismos and 6 for those that are functional
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>>96796370
>>96797211
Please post, I'll use it.
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>>96797187
/tg/ is mostly autumn people, that's why no one likes CtD
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>>96797187
>Technocrat
Solid 8 for me
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>>96797245
Technocrats are at least a 9.
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>>96797187
isnt classifying levels of banality banal in and of itself?
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>>96796518
So
Earth officially has a 2nd moon until 2083
Implications?
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>>96797326
Small glamour burst for kith. Woofs feel more of Luna's presence. Who knows if that'll make them more furious or calmer.
Mages shrug while expanding rituals to include it while Technocracy goes through a false alarm since they forgot they put out an explanation a century ago. Doesn't stop some sections from having an audit as punishment for the slip.
Tremere, Haqim, Lasombra, and Hecata are the only clans to notice because it impacts their disciplines.
Hunters get it in their head it's a supposed 'dead' moon summoned by something.
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>>96797281
Yes, lose 6 glamour
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>>96797326
Huh?
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>>96797326
>it's 19 meters across
That's like saying a pebble in low orbit affects your sleep. Move along.
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>>96797498
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQCJxbJCvYb/
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>>96796518
I want to know more about albino MILF werewolf dommy mommy...
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>>96797326
It's the control module of Theia. It survived the Giant Impact and was ejected on a longer orbit through the system while the rest of the vessel's mass melted into Earth's crust or was salvaged to build Luna. If it is allowed to make contact, it will restore the Moon from save state and it will instantly cease to exist in any form ever known by terrestrial beings.
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>>96797187
I've never read changeling, what are the numbers for
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>>96797548
>Can't see it with the naked eye
What's the point
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Sex with the supernatural
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>>96797669
I bet you can't see Anthelios, either
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>>96797624
How susceptible someone is to changeling magic and how likely they are to slowly weaken or kill changelings with their mere presence if above 7.
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>>96797187
Yeah 6-8, we're fairly normal human beings.
Although I genuinely feel like I've gained banality over the last few years. I used to be able to daydream so well, on command. Now it's mere sputters, like my creativeness has all dried up.
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>>96797822
>Creativeness
Creativity, goddamit.
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>>96796518
That smug aura... I can feel an evil presenceb
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>>96796518
>What's your favorite physical flaw/condition and what do you like about it?
Child. Because it's perfect setup to feign innocence/ignorance in pretty much any situation whatsoever. Or genuine entusiasm and child-like wonder (which would feel wrong on jaded elder). Also occassional poor impulse control. At least in character.
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>>96798092
Being a girl child forever is fine. Being a boy child forever makes tanning on the beach worthwhile.
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>>96797227
>Missed the anons gushing about ctd
To be frank, autumn and autist shouldn't be related. The best artistic works in history were made by turbo-autists with an art fixation.
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>>96797822
That called internet addiction anon. Stop using the computer or gaming for 24 hours, it'll come back. Imagination is a function of boredom +no outside distractions(so boredly scrolling 4chan won't work)
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>>96798167
/tg/ leans more towards the no fun allowed kind of autist, which is 100% autumn person
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>>96798231
Nah, /tg/ is at least 50% sjitposters trying to derail threads, which is nightmare glamour oriented.
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>>96798092
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>>96798092
>every anon suddenly becomes a kindred loli What happens?
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>>96798092
>(which would feel wrong on jaded elder)
That little priestess from a tribe rejected out of recorded history is going to want to try driving at least once.
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>>96798344
4chan was made for loli
>>96798524
No. I respect your right to exust, but you will not force it on me.
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>>96798596
>but you will not force it on me.
Too late. Choose your clan and your appearance.
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The Kitsune did nothing wrong!
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>>96798269
Ruining peoples' fun is like half of what autumn people do
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>TQ
Does the Salubri eye count?
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>>96798706
Indeed.
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>>96798720
I'm going to stick my dick in that third eye.
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>>96798720
feels weird having to make eye contact with someone's forehead
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>>96798524
Brujah loli is a brat.
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>>96798783
>Gangrel loli is a tomboy who likes the outdoors
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>>96798777
It shouldn't still feel weird after you trust a vampire enough for eye contact.
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Does anyone else think that social merits like Allies/Retainers/Mentors/etc are extremely overpowered?
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do you think salubri have better depth perception
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>>96798846
Tough question. Maybe a little, though I'd imagine the elevation would be a bigger obstacle
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>>96798783
https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Cherubim_(VTM)
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>>96799045
>Raphael brought her into the Shepherds of Caine and seeks to console her years of torture, but somehow cannot resist her intensely sexual nature.
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>>96799133
Truly the power of fucking PRESENCE THREE is to be feared.
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>>96799280
Based fellow /an/ poster.
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>>96799045
Place your bets:
Does the writer imagine himself as Cherubim or Raphael?
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>>96796518
TQ I love eat food as a trait, I actually enjoy going out with other vampires and eating, I think you can give a lot of personality to characters based on the things they consume which is why I appreciate so much the eat food trait.

Also been running for a few weeks a solo player chronicle based on the cities of the GTA universe to post anything completely unrelated to the TQ.
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Does anyone have that old, really bad power level chart comparing mages, vamps and werewolves? I desperately need it.
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Where do Imbued Hunters tend to fall regarding banality? They literally hear supernatural voices that give them their powers, but they also are firmly tied to mundane reality and can never access the umbra/underworld/etc.
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>>96798818
>Does anyone else think that social merits like Allies/Retainers/Mentors/etc are extremely overpowered?
I know that my GM didn't like them.
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>>96799906
I'm worried they're a bit too broad and cheap with the freebie points, thankfully none of my players seem to put points in background traits so they're all-inning on merits or willpower
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Where's Vigil 2e?
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>>96799997
Check the second Mega. The first one doesn't include STV vault stuff but hasn't been updated in years.
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>>96796518
MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY
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>>96796518
Clumsy, or anything which makes your hands less able. It truly fucks with everything.
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>>96799045
Hate it but this is the type of shit you need in your games to avoid getting filled with crybaby snowflakes.
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>>96800099
yeah it'll fill it with the other crybaby snowflakes
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>>96799936
They're broad overall, but you're very much meant to narrow down who or what your allies/retainers/mentor/whatever are and what they're good for.
Having a butler as retainer is different from having a bodyguard, for example.
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>>96800163
eh thankfully I doubt my players would bring it up, though I expect it to happen at some point
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>>96800003
That only has the Kickstarter versions.
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>>96800163
>Having a butler as retainer is different from having a bodyguard, for example.
Since when was a butler not a wire wielding bodyguard who could do it all?
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>>96800320
When their master has retainer 1 over 3
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>>96800320
>Artemis Fowl
>Hellsing
>Hayate the Combat Butler
what other media franchises feature gigachad combat butlers?
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>>96800348
Jean Passepartout
Black Butler
Batman's Alfred
Saturnin could probably do it if permitted to use violence freely.
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How exactly would a Prince be removed from their position outside of just killing them? Does the Camarilla have a vote that can remove them from their position? How would someone else be assigned in their place?

I'm working on a plot set in St. Louis and I have a prince from Kansas City involved but I feel like they wouldn't allow you to take over a city across the state as well.
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>>96800649
The Camarilla is an extremely loose organization. It's not appointing princes, it's just making them swear fealty and agree to uphold their laws. Think of a prince just as whoever is in charge and the people they answer to on a night by night basis are the people they are prince of. The main threat of being deposed comes from the masses and intrigues within your own territory, not whatever some jackass an entire continent away thinks.
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>>96800649
If it's part of a coalition and that prince is a small fish or part of an expansion. Like the blood trade end point.
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>>96800649
>Does the Camarilla have a vote that can remove them from their position?
yeah, if the inner circle think you're garbage at your job (and threatening the masquerade too much), they send a justicar to kick your ass (under some other pretext)
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>>96800649
>How exactly would a Prince be removed from their position outside of just killing them? Does the Camarilla have a vote that can remove them from their position? How would someone else be assigned in their place?

some princes can just be voted out by the primogen while some princes are politically so powerful that killing them it the only way to remove them so it's up to you how you design the city

>I'm working on a plot set in St. Louis and I have a prince from Kansas City involved but I feel like they wouldn't allow you to take over a city across the state as well.
for a prince to mess with another domain however is a big no no because that's what get's archons involved because he is breaking a tradition (domain) and if he fucks up trying to mess with a domain across the state he could in theory even find himself as a redlist candidate because his crime covered several domains (it's unlikely that he would be picked however unless he pissed off a specific clan)
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>>96800649
>How exactly would a Prince be removed from their position outside of just killing them?
Executing Princes can be bad for business. Makes too big of a mess, disrupts important affairs in the city, leave a power vacuum, and you don't get to recycle their well-established power structures and connections if you do that. Much more savvy to just get some absolutely damning dirt on them and pressure them into retirement. Retirement of course being soft exile, he leaves and doesn't come back to that city ever again or the dirt gets spilled and THEN he dies by the Camarilla's hand. It means he starts over from scratch somewhere very very far away, but he gets to keep his life and you get to take his throne. It's a win/win that even the most arrogant Prince can't argue with.
>Does the Camarilla have a vote that can remove them from their position?
Far more likely that if a Prince were to truly piss off his betters in the Camarilla, they'd simply tell him to abdicate his throne and find someone with better manners to replace him. I doubt any sort of council would usually convene for such business unless it's a genuine crisis situation they're trying to resolve as quickly as possible. Generally the Camarilla prefer subtle moves from such long distances, as direct action is a sign of weakness and internal strife that they can't afford to let their enemies smell.
>How would someone else be assigned in their place?
Anyone in the Prince's inner circle that has proven especially loyal to Camarilla will likely be elevated to replace him. Transplanting someone else to run the city can ruffle far more feathers and foster more anti-Camarilla sentiment, which they generally prefer to avoid having to deal with. Plus, local leaders are already well-versed in the local situation and won't need years to foster connections and operations there, so it's generally more efficient.
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>>96800722
So if the Prince of Kansas City deposes the Prince of St. Louis and says "I just straight up rule Missouri now." the Camarilla would just shrug their shoulders and say "Guess so!"

>>96800749
I'd say it's fairly important to the blood trade despite its size. It's on the Mississippi and has the second largest inland port in the US. It'd probably be a major stop for those traveling to and from Minneapolis/St Paul and Chicago. The Prince isn't too powerful (though an I think, second edition book outright states that the Prince of St. Louis could call a meeting to have rules laid down.) but he is old and experienced and in good with Chicago.

>>96800762
Interesting!

>>96800795
It's moreso that St. Louis is in a precarious position, so he's seeing it as weakness, but I might have it be he's trying to undermine the power structure in St. Louis through covert agents and plausible deniability.

>>96800801
Makes sense that you don't want to really throw things off too much. Keep things in order with people who know the city without making waves.

Thanks for the help. I'll change things up a bit!
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>>96800649
The Camarilla doesn't like having to executively remove a Prince for obvious reasons, they'd much prefer to support a local overthrow. But, if a Prince is flagrantly pissing on the traditions, or threatening the masquerade, they can send Archons/a Justicar to do it. They also do not like executively appointing Princes, and would only do it if there were absolutely no locals qualified for the position. What they'd rather do is endorse a claimant they like.

In other words, they need a crisis significant enough to justify executive action, because Princes, the local rulers who actually serve as the Camarilla's constituency, are very cautious about empowering the Inner Circle and Justiciars. Maybe they have to manufacture that crisis, but there still needs to be a very good reason to do it. Then back a competent and loyal local leader and return to status quo.
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>>96800907
>So if the Prince of Kansas City deposes the Prince of St. Louis and says "I just straight up rule Missouri now." the Camarilla would just shrug their shoulders and say "Guess so!"

Aside from weird lore aberrations like the french language only France by Night, that kind of shit would not fly. The Camarilla would probably have his ass kicked for trying to be Prince of two cities at the same time.
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>>96800924
Makes sense. I wanted to have some sort of Power Play involved but I will cut that out.

Thanks, everyone!
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>>96800907
>the Camarilla would just shrug their shoulders and say "Guess so!"
Are made-men allowed to kill each other? No, but also yes, especially if they get permission from someone with influence.
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>>96800946
You probably could have a power play involved it just is maybe state sized instead of international. Would this be something the players workup to or just they're caught in the middle of it?
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>>96800649
>I'm working on a plot set in St. Louis and I have a prince from Kansas City involved but I feel like they wouldn't allow you to take over a city across the state as well.
As other posters have alluded to, this would likely be perceived as a violation of the St. Louis Domain by Kansas City. HOWEVER, that's only if the takeover is something obvious and in plain sight. The Prince of Kansas City could absolutely have a plant in the St. Louis inner circle, an agent he supports from afar to replace the St. Louis Prince. And if his agent does win in his bid for power, then from that point on Kansas City Prince effectively owns St. Louis by proxy, albeit only so long as he can control his agent on the throne. If his agent gains too much personal influence and power he might be able to go fully independent and then St. Louis stands for itself again.
Of course, if this conspiracy were to be unveiled with hard evidence of the fact the new St. Louis Prince is nothing more than a puppet installed by Kansas City, the Kansas City Prince would be in deep shit unless he manages to downplay this into being 'merely close ties.' But these sorts of political games are very common regardless in Kindred society, where everyone is conspiring to gain power however they can, even if it means skirting the edge of violating a Camarilla tenet.
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>>96800962
Caught in the middle. I'm sort of working out the state of the game board they're diving into.

>>96800957
Funnily enough, my idea was that the Kansas City Prince was an old mafioso.

>>96800976
Yeah, that might be what I go for. Agents within St Louis that he controls by proxy.



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