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>>96798161Marie sue beats anon's ass and there is nothing they can do but cope that she is weaker than them just to keep their sanity. Blame Rake.
>>96798161
Uruk Necromancer beats Marie Su. She doesn't have prep time.
>>96798201>cannot defeat an average womanYou're projecting your weakness onto the rest of us.
>>96798201no, i blame your stupid ass for thinking that a companion is stronger than us
Danmachi is actually a very good cyoa
>>96798232She is a higher stage than you, jobber-kun
>>96798161>thread question:When did you last make a cyoa build?
>>96798240Not as good as Ultimate God, desu
>>96798247This is the gayest CYOA that I've seen in months. Thank you reposting it and reminding us that it could be a whole lot worse.
>>96798264I don't know any good cyoa by that name. Maybe you mean living god?
>>96798279I only know bad cyoas that go by Living God, so no.
I know people are always joking "can a devourer, devour X?" but I think going to the corpse caverns, finding some juicy marrow and getting a primordial bloodline is totally possible.
>>96798201>>96798251I'm really starting to suspect that this guy acting like a retard on purpose
If you eat some dragon heart steak, you can get the TRVE DRAGON's bloodline. It's literally a Grand Inheritance worth of power.
>>96798239Which method is best for mercing Sons?
>>96798327He is a true dragon, not a primordial dragon but yea you can get his bloodline
>>96798336Machine Transcendence. It's the strongest method by far.
>>96798316Finding random primordial bone marrow will require some Marie su levels of bullshit luck
>>96798323>starting to suspectThen you're more retarded than him if you caught on just now.
>>96798348Strongest I am not sure, but definitely one with the most utility
>>96798351You could have that if Marie Su was your side piece
>>96796201>PostmortalityInheritor: Everything else can be acquired later, this world's tech sounds OP, so I like the bonus here( won't be able to make use of most of that for decades, centuries if the other inheritors are lazy fucks too, but I'll have time)>ResourcesStocked Hardware store, Stocked electronics store, a local gathering-place for androids>FactionsInheritor: There's no point in being obsessed with the past; it's not what the last humans wanted anyway. If the regenerators succeed, then that's fine, but wouldn't it be better for those new humans to be greeted with a new functioning society than be born into the ruins of the old world?Playful: I just agree with them
>>96798351Its not random, the world is literally a giant primordial corpse
>>96798257Original CC release. Im about ready to drop the updtate.
>>9679825720 hours and 7 minutes ago.
>>96798363Got to hope she doesn't randomly acquire the devouring method by eating a mysterious kebab
CC questionWhy are all the companions ugly or average when cultivation is supposed to prettify you?
>>96798375>Original CC release.Serial slop consoomer right here.
>>96798406It no longer does that. Rake removed it from the cyoa. But you can still be pretty because you get to headcanon what the body you spawned in looks like
>>96798406>Needs the author to tell them they look good in (You)r adventure
>>96798257last thread (Godfather Golem), gonna update when CC gets posted
>>96798406Rake has no taste and is reddit.>>96798420this is about the ugly companions.
>>96798327>>96798346how much will it take to eat his heart? he looks massive. pic related is the size of an elephant heart and the dragon in a lot bigger...>>96798357i just know the average iq of the general it was a safe assumption to think he was just a normal retard instead of baiting retard until now.
>>96798433One bite at a time
>>96798201>>96798226Dickless golem, I own you.
Here's a truth anons aren't ready forEvery single companion(except for Cox) is stronger than you at the start
>>96798483I want to be nice, so I'll say you're equal to Cox at the start
>>96798483I retroactively changed the past using unbound causalityI was always the strongest in existence
>>96798257CC
>>96798433Seduce the dragon and drink his seed until you get strong enough to devour him
>>96798483no shit, you start as a RElet so you better start popping pills soon
>>96798497Sorry jobber-san, but the True Creator was always stronger than youHe's just so benevolent that he's letting you think you're the strongest so you'll feel betterDid it work?
>>96798369At least repost it.
>>96798520I show up at Rake's house and force him to make me the strongest for real
>>96798551Hell just put you in a red wig. Hes wearing one too.
>>96798483Technically yes, you ahve a lot of potential but you do start at rank 1. Unless you pick Minotaur Lair, the companions have been surviving for a while so they have a certain level of power, having to survive the labyrint will force you to get up to speed with most of them. But in potential you are supposed to be better than all of them.
>>96798483And they will ALWAYS be as there is no way to cultivate faster. Even at your fastest, you are still cultivating as fast as them.
Would Spirit Stones count as a material for the purposes of Essence Furnace/Spliced Tree?
You can tell Rake is a Redditor by the stipulation of "Purebred" saying that it doesn't work if you have multiple partners. I want to go full Primordial Gengis Khan damnit!
>>96798551You are too late.
>>96798639that is great, perfect for void body my companions will be able to just destroy weakened enemy lowered to my level especially after they are buffed too
>>96798653I would personally think so. It's like gold, it's a material first, currency second. Purifying lesser spirit stones into greater ones with the forge or duping them with the tree seems fair and within the intent of the option.
>>96798483Richard is the strongest starting companion, because he has a foot in the door for DIMA and the agency is insanely competent. Just look at (You). They made that in less than a century of research with mundane resources, while cultivator sects and clans many thousands of years older struggle to get even a fraction of their comprehension.
>>96798751I don't know if I would say "strongest", but the possibility of contacting DIMA remnants is certainly a draw.
>>96798751There are people out there blowing up galaxies. And being able to do 2 methods is not unique, only extremely rare. Protag-kun is not the strongest. He is just your average jobber thinking they are strong until they meet someone who is actually strong.
>>96798406lets see judging on the images but also on who the companions are based on:Marie su: pretty, probably hotter since the image angle is awkwardAlva: meh, some anons might give her a passTriffil: he looks coolRichard twag cox: face coveredAlice: i would consider her quite beautiful Iska: i dunno, she is a spirit so she can probably switch between all the previous human bodies that made her what she is now, just my guessThe wandering swordswoman: face covered but her body looks good, she gets a passLyra: face covered but her upper body looks very goodKairos: no ideaHirak: cool looking werewolfCassian: a little ugly i guess but at the least he looks coolMono: alienAjax: very pretty, SEXYesod: why the fuck does Kairos description calls him 'delicate beauty' (basically a femboy) then Yesod looks way more feminineCatherine: looks ok, at the least she looks better than Alva and i like her skin colorAkua: good looking but points are detracted for the missing hair on the headRachel: hot, also you just Know....Dr. Nalka: uhhh... at the least her tits look big, i guessUrsul: abomination who needs to be exterminated
>>96798639>there is no way to cultivate fasterThey are, more RE available to use, more Insight, less bottleneck, easier tribulation, making less mistake when cultivating, alchemy, you can get all of those.
>>96798779For me, a companion's strength is divided into three sections. Their personal power, their method, and their connections. Cassian has great power and a great method that synergizes with it, but zero connections. Richard, on the other hand, has trash power, a trash method, but incredibly valuable connections. I would say they're roughly equal in value but that Richard is best at helping you get stronger.>>96798792You aren't the strongest in-total, you're only the strongest on earth. It's like an athlete that's the best in his backwater region hands-down, no-contest, but to be the best in his backwater region means that he's just at the starting point for competing to be one of the world's best athletes. You have the strength, resources, and potential to scale, but actually getting there requires you to use them well and survive in the meantime. There are tons of similarly-gifted cultivators with the same caliber of opportunities towards the same goals.
Rake's reddicordness really comes to shine the more you look at the cyoa and the extra lore
>>96798814Anon is comparing the companion section to coomer companion sections like Spirit Conscript.
What is the best CYOA for this feel?
>>96798898EntroPISS
>>96798882You're a retardAlso I remember anons coping about all the spirit conscript companions being unattractive or somethingIt's been a while so I don't remember what their exact complaints were, but why was that your first pick?
>>96798898Into the cardboard realm, what comes after death, maybe laboratorium or jrpgtraitor.
>>96798920That was mostly pedos complaining the waifus all had huge tits
>>96798920It was my first pick because it is another Asian fantasy setting.
>>96798935fair enough
>>96798257>When did you last make a cyoa build?For that World Orb reddit CYOA that came out a few days ago.I liked it.
>>96798654Haremkeks should be castrated
>>96798879Examples, shitposter?
I don't need to show a shitposter like you anything. Now cry.
>>96798639>there is no way to cultivate faster.>Even at your fastest, you are still cultivating as fast as them.this is a readlet
>>96798898really like the pic, Living god, MirrorSeeker's Necromancer (even if its a little bit of a stretch)>>96798920>>96798932>waifus had huge titsThis, one of the weirdest complaints i have read in a while especially since there where waifus with average chests.>>96798971why are you asking a shitposter for examples?
>>96798990>this is a readletno, just a retard
>>96798814I disagree with Catherine and Akua.Catherine >>> Akua. Akua is ugly and Catherine is actually beautiful.Marie is average, she was an average woman in all aspects before this.The rest I agree. Ajax is the hottest.But apart from choosing Ajax, in a true harem build I would choose Catherine. The rest are either meh, like Alva, or would oppose an harem like Marie.Lyra has probably a butter face by the way, maybe its the angle but she has a very squared face.
>>96798994>especially since there where waifus with average chests.There were like three
Is Rake a puritan?
>>96799038Just a normalfag
>>96799038Just a redditor.
>>96799038Just a fagfag
>>967990321. Loli teacher.2. Cook3. I think the rival of the cook too. But in any case, the red oni girlfailure4. The blonde swordswoman5. The triplets6. the isekai protag that was the girl of the rival of your skelebro7. the tourist girl with light powers8. MING YUE
>>96798257Last thread for CC
>>96798879>>96798654>>96799052same guy btw
>>96799038Just a slob like one of us
>>96799031>would oppose an harem like Marienot with jade beauty or a few years spent together
Updated >>96777380>MethodsLitany of the Living ForgeBone-Scrivened Talismanic Transcribe> BlessingsHeaven BlessedJade BeautyMerchant’s GuileSeventh SensePerfect ConduitDeceitful TricksterCommunication ExpertMastermindRight to RuleLowly Junior> TreasuresPortable WorkshopOmni-CompassEssence FurnaceSpliced TreeMarket TicketExtradimensional Library> Grand InheritancesAuxillary MasterLost LegacyMentor Ring> CompanionsMarie SuYesod> EventsCorpse KingPlace of PowerTreasure HuntPassing ThroughWandering Temple> ComplicationsParasiteFated Nemesis (Cassian)Deviated Form (Horns)IncursionMinotaur’s LairCourting DeathPossessionFading AwayDefective MeridiansFull merchant build. The idea is to get really, really good at both buying and making powerful items so I can integrate them into myself, as well as sell them to supplement my cultivation directly with spirit stones.Took Seventh Sense to further aid me in finding valuable resources and opportunities to exploit, and Fated Nemesis to pay for it since Cassian is severly lacking in hax.
>>96799138Someone should really post CC in this thread.
>>96799114I don't know chief. She is one of the companions that do not get a really strong royalty. She stays your companion because she can talk with you without getting affected by her luck, but that doesn't mean she would accept an harem.Jade Beauty is a maybe?Unlike her, Ajax would, Catherine would, Rachel would and maybe even Lyra would. As those are either girls that would not oppose much of an harem or with really strong royalties.Marie is a normal woman of our time
https://imgchest.com/p/qe4gmez3j4jEndless Riches https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96798161/#96799138Real Estate https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96765686/#96771224Bloodline Clones https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96771928Arthur Pendragon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772383Blessed Sage of Heaven and Earth https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772819Asi-Māra, Demonic Sword of the Crimson Sea https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772890Devourer of Minds https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772939Pill Popping Immortal Daoist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96773130Hidden Blood Demon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96790138Sword Shadow https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96774392The Radiant https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96775064Bibliophile https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96780558The Butcher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96789913The Primordial Void https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96779706Thousand Faces https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793467The Dryad https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793477True Knight https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96781427Ultimate Lifeform https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96782605Dao Master https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96783138Heaven Sundering Fist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96785686Ice Nerd https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96785747Lilu https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96789459Immaterial Maester https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792605The Godfather Golem https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792542Herald of Progress https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96790948Entropy Snake https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791184
>>96798257OR update.
>he thinks sitting in a cave and cultivating for X years is safeheaven will strike you down for your arrogance
>>96799183Heaven literally jobs to what DIMA created with the player.
>>96799192Heaven basically created DIMA
No...
>>96799200>heaven created people that defied heaven and wonEven more of a jobber. This is like having a kid and said kid kills you and fucks your corpse.
>>96799208Who thought Void Body affected every stage? I think void is one of the best GI, but I think that knowing its not omnipotent and 10x better than everything else.
>>96799208>The power doesn't do what it says it doesBravo!
>>96799172“The Godfather Golem” Update Thinking about squeezing in an Elemental Roots blessing but can’t think of something that fits my methods. Any ideas anons? >Methods Stone Titan Ascent, Litany of the Living Forge, Eternal Frost Pages >Blessings Weapon God Physique (body), Heaven-Blessed (Stolen), Merchant’s Guile, Decentralized Organs, Warhound, Iron Will, Protagonist Aura, Seventh Sense, Perfect Conduit, Deceitful Trickster, Mutated Dantians, Communication Expert, Mastermind, Right to Rule, Lowly Junior >Treasures Spirit Lantern, Training Array, Spliced Tree, Market Ticket, Extradimensional Library >Grand Inheritances Heavenly Conqueror Foundation, Lost Legacy, Mentor Ring >Companions Iska, Yesod, Dr. Nalka >Quests Treasure Hunt, Unstable Rifts, Passing Through, Profundity in Violence, Wandering Temple >Complications Parasite, Deviated Form (Glowing Red Eyes), Incursion, Youthful, Incompetent, Minotaur's Lair, Courting Death (Heaven-Blessed), Toad Lusting After A Swan, Fading Away, Defective Meridians, Possession, Doomsayer, Indebted >Next Steps Corpse Caverns >Writeup https://rentry.org/a24m9kh2
>>96799172Scroll Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791572The Last Holocaust Survivor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96792028Aventurine https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793188Shadow Crafter https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96794677Yin Yang Scion https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96797399>File too large
>>96799208>if you apply the power that weakens people by 1-2 stages against someone 3-4 stages ahead of you, it won't bridge the gapNo shiiiit
>>96799232Explicitfag...
>>96799232>I am a person with 0 context comprehension and I will get mad if someone proves I was wrong
>>96799235>File too largePost the ones from last thread?
>>96799208What 'cord is this?
>>96799231>Who thought Void Body affected every stage?cretins like this one >>96799232
>>96799264reddicord
>>96799208>Stupid fucking neco arc pfp
>>96799267Sandnigger.... he is forgotten...
>>96799265he looks like the type of guy that was in Spirit conscript searching for loopsholes to become omnipotent by fusing 2 weak techniques together.
>>96799235>dodged the Rachel questionis it official now?
>>96799245>>96799247>>96799265>It's ok to write in things that the power doesn't do>Anons will lap the trooncord nerfingThis place has fallen
>>96799296She's a blindingly obvious reference to Bitch, from Worm, who had identical powers and committed bestiality.
>>96799296It was already clear from the start with the picture. https://anto-finnstark.artstation.com/projects/mAZX4v
>>96799296
>>96799311>committed bestiality.What the fuck are you on about?
>>96799317nah, that is just a woman and a beast
>>96799311>blindingly obvious referenceWhat are the other references people ave found?
>>96799323>trying to cover for a zoophileAnon you are sick in the head
>>96799349you reek of twitter
>>96799359Projecting will get you nowhere. This is the only website I use.
>>96799234Metal element. Obviously synergy with Stone Titan and Living forge, plus it's a yin element and would work well with Frost pages
>>96799379it doesn't matter. Your answer was twitter worthy>This character is a zoophile>what? when did that happen?>You are trying to cover a zoophile you are fucking sick
>>96799234Time literally fits the Eternal Frost pages. It would empower it and make everything else be more related to the ice method
>>96799311>>96799317>>96799321lets just ask Rake next time, this is a really important question, i want to be 100% sure. If he dodges the question again we will be sure.
>>96799382>>96799411Thanks anons
Iska would enjoy the harem, she is a fusion of a lot of people, one of them is bound to like harems
>>96799172for some reason I'm stalling updating my build for this...
>>96799172>>96799235MACHINE GOD >>96793440
I once had a dream that I ascended to a xianxia realm and Christianity was the dominant religion in higher dimensional fantasy China.
>>96799642Added for next time.Please link builds to the cyoa.
>>96799651what a nightmare
What is the last cyoa companion you actually liked/cared for/ wanted to bang
>>96799492Iska also has every type of issue in her mind. She is also the fusion of potentially fat men minds. She could have Tok in her head.The good part about her is, there is probably not many beings like her, she is unique
devourers once they ascend to a higher world:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEtBDb2Boe4
>>96799651This guy is responsible for 2nd deadliest conflict in the history of mankind (behind WW2) btw. One night your having a weird fever dream, next thing you know 30 million people are dead. China is truly a magical place.
>>96799742The son of the Devourer after he ate his sister to gain more power and he got expelled from the secthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_OWfHOHq_U&list=RDE_OWfHOHq_U&start_radio=1
>>96799742>>96799761Time to take a break from the thread little bro
The fact that the author ignored your retarded question about bestiality, doesn't mean you can project your fetish onto this particular character, retard.
>>96799765Actually, we are two. I was surprised someone here knew Voltaire.
>>96799770I mean, he could have replied a quick "no" to shut up the shitposter.
>>96799792>he could've fed the shitposterYeah, because that would surely stop him in his tracks.
We need another /trash/refugee purge. This is getting out of hand.
>>96799803yes. Just like the Void Body shitposter was stopped with a discord message.
>>96799809Seriously. This thread is fucking awful now.
>>96799770>still mad
>>96799810Not even remotely the same thing, you dishonest faggot.
>>96799827It is, shitposter use vague text or holes in the cyoa to shitpost. The author filling the hole or explaining vague text ends the whole shitpost.
>>96799822You're saying that, but you post the same shit every thread. It's not like he's digging this up from nowhere. Why not just stop? Or at the very least, shitpost about something less degenerate.
I think people are sleeping on False Death. It gives you immunity to poisons and techniques that are meant for living beings, in exchange of just 1 blessing. There is no drawbacks. It also stops undeads from attacking you.
>>96799839You might be a genuine autist if you don't understand this, but asking a question about mechanics even if in bad faith, doesn't compare to accusing a character of bestiality. One can maybe done in good faith and help clarify some doubt other anons have, the other is simply done to denigrate and bring down the author into a weird discussion about fucked up fetishes. It's beyond shitposting in the sense that even acknowledging it exits, as an author, would be a very stupid thing to do. It also feeds the shitposters in a way that they will most surely try to do the same thing in a next cyoa.
>>96799848Maybe but I think it is because anons are potential maxing and the benefits of false death are more immediate.
>>96799848>give up all your spiral energytrap option
>>96799848Techniques that affect the dead also affect you, in theory. With high enough method you basically purge yourself from poison anyway, unless it's more esoteric in nature so in that case you're probably affected anyway.
>>96799848Might be some synergy with Alva too.
>>96799891That could go both ways. It could unlock interesting techniques as well.
>>96799886What are you talking about? I don't know what spiral energy is but the blessing says you have no drawbacks, only positive things.>>96799873I think this is potential maxxing. You are becoming immune to esoteric bullshit that targets living beings and poisons. Techniques that drain life force, for example, don't work. Poison methods that are one hit one kill are useless. Life force detection etc...
>>96799848>immunity to poisonsmight be useful but i must remind you that high level poisons can become acid that create physical damage.>immunity to techniques that are meantthis might be quite useful, yes>It also stops undeads from attacking youthis is inconsequential, on the contrary in some cases you might want to attack you since you could gather the material from their bodiesoverall its not a bad blessing at all, but its nothing exceptional either, at the least that is what i think.>>96799870>>96799822>STILL MAD
Do you need to eat/drink/breathe with False Death? If no, then I think it's worth it.
>>96799913Do your parents know you let their german shepherd mount you?
>>96799891I think techniques that affect the dead do not affect you. That's the thing, you are not dead. It's a glitch. Techniques that affect the dead does not affect a living body but techniques that affect living beings do not affect you because you are falsely dead.The esoteric poisons, if they are made to affect living beings, like affecting RE inside a body, would fail. Poisons that are more like acid would go on full effect tho.
>>96799918Yes, you need to. You are totally living, you are not really undead. You have to eat, breath, can regenerate like normal, reproduce. It changes how techniques and undeads see you.
>>96799893If she learns techniques to empower/heal undead and you count as undead for her technique, yeah. It would be op.
If you faggots ignored the shitposter he wouldn't post this type of garbage every thread. Every thread now it's being ruined by the same retard, just stop replying to him and we can return to our comfy times.
>>96799931Sounds kinda unreliableb desuLike you're not completely sure what affects it has and what doesn't change
>>96799957Have you not seen the long reply chains deleted when a mod actually bans one? They samefag relentlessly to start their dumb shit.
>>96799957Anon YEARN for the bait. They CRAVE it.
>>96799208So is actually even better than I thought. It works on 2 stages above you.
>>96799957the comfyGODS shall inherit the /cyoag/ promised to us three gorillion threads ago
>>96799957Honestly it isn't even a good shitposter. Very lazy and repetitive, childish too. He can't be older than 14. Which is concerning considering his obsession with zoophilia. This is why you shouldn't give your kids unrestricted internet access.
>>96799957is the shitposted the one calling reke a redditor, the one insisting that marie su is stronger than us or the one having a meltdown because of the Rachel question?or are they all the same guy?
Bros... ITS OVER
>>96800021I have to admit, yes. I am all of them.
>>96800012amazing how you detached yourself from the conversation like its nothing
>>96800035>imagine the flat brain anon that would actually believe it
>>96799719If we talk about the newest cyoa released then ironocally someone from OR, and it's not technically a companion, not officially anyway. But I'm not going to say who as I don't want to start an OR discussion, I despise all of the "deep lore" discussions around here and all of the shitposting it causes, I didn't even post my build because of that. Before that it was my team in Rake's Luminary, plus a secondary character. I have not been playing cyoas with companions lately, and CC has some neat ones but none really stand out compared to other stuff you could potentially find once you leave earth/around earth itself/could create yourself, xianxia is kinda bullshit in that regard, I guess Lyra would be my favourite there.
>>96800041Wasn't never part of it in the first place, just observing the shitshow go down. I gotta say, I'm disappointed in how baitable you guys are. Biblefag would've have a field day if he didn't die from cancer.
>>96800070Sounds more like you are seething while trying to pretend you are over it. You keep bringing up this guy unprompted over and over again.
>>96800078Very rookie ragebait and poor samefag attempt. You still have lots to learn kid, lurk moar and learn.
>>96800035just realized Rake is using Neko arc as his avatar, cute.>>96800078right? kinda weird actually, the conversation ended by the time this guy showed up and started having a meltdown >>96799770
People talking about harems, waifus and such... are lame and losers.The true happiness is having a femboy like Yisod or Kairos make you warm in cold nights
>sex>love>friendshipDoes it give you power? No?Then why the FUCK would I waste my time with that useless shit?
>>96800098Same thing as last thread i think. If memory does not fail me.>>96800104Yisod i might be able to understand but Kairos is just a dude.
>>96800124Kairos has 1 femboy bottle on his back, he can turn cute
>>96800123>>sex>>love>>friendshipWhat if they are the most efficient way to gather power?
>>96800141THATS NEVER AN OPTION. Give 1 example. I'll wait
>>96800146luminary
>>96800152What luminary? and what of the 3? sex? love? friendship?
>>96800146Trantric practices to cycle energies through 2 people to refine said energies in a feed-back loop.
>>96800146>Nigga thinks allies aren't the most effective force multiplier
>>96800158the weapons one
>>96800141>What if they are the most efficient way to gather power?I will have more sex than a methed up rabbitI will love more deeply than the fucking mariana trenchI will have more friends than a shounen protagonistas long as it gets me POWER
>Power>Money>SkillDo they give you love? No?Then why the FUCK would I waste my time with that useless shit?
>"I have more friends, which means I'm sure to win!">t. man who lives in a setting where a single person can destroy universes or become stronger than godwhy are righteous path jobbers like this
>>96800185But... there is no love in CC. There is power, money and skill... but love? no.
>>96800146Outer Reincarnation>>>friendshipIkona Ikon multiplies your power by the number of your friends.>>>loveRedeeming Charlie, redeeming Katya, acquiring past outsiders in general.>>>sexAll of your powers come from making two people fuck.
>>96800146nta but i will make an example for the 3 in the same cyoa:be friend with Kofuko san and he will teach you techniques to be stronger.love your waifus and they will teach you techniques to be stronger.have sex with the Ninokata and they will teach you techniques to be stronger..>>96800185pretty sure they help.>>96800193because ganging up on a cultivator of the came level is more efficient.
>>96800193>Say's anon before getting gang banged by my righteous force mutiplied armyClassic solo jobber.
>>96800202>All of your powers come from making two people fuckUnless you're from one person fucking the world.
>>96799172Finally got around to reading all of this, and got enough inspiration for two builds I made pretty much at the same timeHere's the first I finished writefagging for, the other I'm still working on>Methods:>Stone-Titan Ascent>Litany of the Living Forge>Bone-Scrivened Talismanic TranscribeThe ultimate craft-self; a stone base, inlaid with silver, steel, glass, and gold, inscribed with glyph, rune, and text. I make myself as I see fit.>Blessings:>Imperial AuthorityThe legacy of earth’s visionaries and artisans lie within me, their immortal heritage culminates within my form.>Iron WillA significant portion of art was fueled by pain, be it mental, physical, or emotional; I may not be able to fuel myself off those energies in the same way, I have inherited a supernatural resistance and willpower to fight against them.>Elemental Roots (Artistry)Just as cultivation is as a whole the refinement of the body, artistry is the refinement of emotion and the soul, rendering abstract concepts into visual and similar perceptual mediums. I am the fusion of these two refinements: my stone foundation is sculpture and architecture; my intricacies are jewelry and filigree, ironwork and smithing of both gold and silver; my tattoos and inscriptions are literature and painting; these are only the most literal interpretations.>Peerless ProdigyArt is an innate part of the human experience; I need only pull on the most fundamental of my bloodlines, the Homo Sapiens, to light my path.>Kind TribulationsAs if pushing against the culmination of human expression rather than a single ego or mind, tribulations find it harder to inflict any lasting or deleterious effects on my being.
>>96800218>Treasures:>Stores of WealthA perfect starting fund of materials for my body-crafting.>Portable WorkshopA must if I want to continue crafting myself without being chained to a single location.>Essence FurnaceNot much use as I get started, but essential as I start needing more conceptual and fundamental materials in higher levels of crafting and carving.>Spliced TreeAs I won’t know exactly what I need until I need it, this is a must-have, alongside a collection of small pieces of every material as a seed; the latter isn’t too hard to keep up, as long as I don’t use up all of any material I find.>Condensation ArrayWith a cultivation method centered around crafting being one where improvement largely centers around stationary activity, a condensation effect in one area is highly effective.>Grand Inheritance:>Heavenly Conqueror FoundationAs I create my own ascension, the only inspiration I need comes from within, crystallizing within my own crafted body. I may slow in insight with one method, akin to writers block, but I only need swap to another artistry for a while to evade burnout.>Companions:>TriffilI am looking to replace the entirety of my existence with stone and metal, so it is thematically appropriate to find myself company with one who is entirely living plant; I would greatly appreciate someone for protection as I work my up through the early stages of cultivation and crafting, and I’m sure he would greatly appreciate the use of the Condensation Array to better match the RE levels of his home plane.>IskaJust as I am binding my physical self to an artificial form bit by bit, it should be… perhaps not simple, but logically sound to be able to reverse the concept, and bind an artificially created being like Iska to a physical form; her own developments may be able to do the same, but as her development is largely instinctual and primitive, I am sure much would be gained from a more structured creation of her eventual form.
>>96800222>Events:>Place of PowerThis place, along with the Condensation Array, would be a perfect place to set up camp for a while, selling my wares in exchange for RE-infused materials from the epicenter of the nexus; when I learn of the coming calamity, I will keep it secret. For one, the instability will likely lead to more valuable materials being found within to trade for - or even look for myself, of course. Most importantly, I will make preparations, infusing the location I have set up within with runes, talismans, formations, and other such creations to bind it with the protective abilities and effects that synergize most with my Methods, all so that when the nexus finally explodes, I can protect myself and any I deem valuable enough to save. With the condensation array within the protective bubble, it may be possible to empower the resultant extreme RE levels and share it to ascend us all by at least a stage. Also, the deaths of all those who we did not save within the settlement and the nexus itself would provide plenty of dying memories for Iska to feed on.>Treasure HuntI have plenty of protection myself with two of my Methods being innately defensive, and the other providing me with enough versatility to overcome anything else the pocket plane might throw at us; on top of that, with Triffil at my back, I should have little to worry about with regards to the vast majority of other cultivators; lastly, Iska will be essential in detecting any more spiritual or esoteric dangers and effects.
>>96800218>Elemental Roots (Artistry)It's over. Shed all pretenses of elements. Pick anything.
>>96800230>Corrupted ZoneI should have protection enough to withstand the passive effects of the zone, and I can always inscribe onto my skin any other protections I may need. Honestly, the journey into the corruption may be more valuable than destroying the Fallen within; if the effects of the zone don’t prove to be too cumbersome or otherwise annoying to fend off, it may be of more worth to incapacitate the Fallen just enough to prevent further expansion, but not enough to remove the generation of new RE-infused materials, and set up camp inside to endlessly farm more. As Iska is a being born of the corruptive energies of dying humans, there’s a good chance she would be able to absorb the corruption of the materials of the zone, purifying them.>Profundity in ViolenceAn area infused with the lingering powers of an outsider, causing any materials that enter to passively be transformed into increasingly complex forms; at first this effect seems to produce fantastical if useless gizmos and contraptions, but as it progresses, they become so intricate and convoluted that they resemble fractals more than any distinct mechanism. Eventually, the resultant product falls apart entirely as it becomes atomically complex and it loses basic structural integrity… and thus the process starts over, with the resultant scrap being deemed a valid material of transformation. The processes here are a veritable goldmine of inspiration for crafting my own self, both from observing the resultant complexities, and from any devices that can be salvaged from the area before they being unusably complex.
>>96800239>Wandering TempleMy entire existence is an endless cycle of crafting, modifying, and repairing my own self; the body is a temple, so repairing an actual temple shouldn’t be any harder, if anything it could provide plentiful inspiration to improve myself, potentially even harnessing the teleportation effect into my own body. If the stick-in-the-mud decides he has to kill me? Well, he can certainly try, and with Stone-Titan Ascent providing me with improvement and insight simply by defending and standing my ground, I can just plant myself in front of the broken engine and let him hit me as much as he wants; any damage he would do would already be dampened as he avoids damaging the engine itself - if repairing it is heretical, I’m sure destroying it is even more so.>Complication:>Deviated FormAs a living piece of art, I find it honestly insulting that I would stick to purely the human form. Others may see this as a detriment, making me seem more alien and divorced from the human experience, but I do not care. If inspiration takes me to shapes and designs that may seem grotesque or abhorrent to others, so be it - I will not cripple my own development with banal, vapid conformity.
>>96800218>no imagecome on man>>96800231no, i want to follow the spirit of the cyoa honestly
>>96800181and how does that make you stronger? sex? love? frienship?
>>96800211ninokata clan... peak incest...
>>96800247>and how does that make you stronger?STFU wakuwakufag
>>96800246I writefagged enough to need 5 entire posts to send it all, that's more than enoughif you ascribe to the idiom that a picture is worth a thousand words, then I writefagged enough for one (1.3k words, +/- 100 due to choices)
>>96798527The cyoa ought to be in png.
Power gives you love, money, sex, and friends. Therefore, power is the best
>>96800255that kid is gonna be merked, no hard feelings.
>>96800247Nta but your power in that one comes from your bonds with your artifacts, and most of them want to at least be friends with you. Isi and Luva in particular want all 3, most of the others are romanically inclined and all can be persuaded, and getting closer to them in any way also helps. the companions from the various worlds also are going to help more if you get close to them, and the princess will marry you once you fix her shit, giving you access to her special world walking power.
>>96800286I just copied the one posted last thread.
>>96800231I think it's fine. EVERYTHING has a Dao
>>96800322It says element. Not Dao
>>96800218Nice build anon, I appreciate other transhumans.
>>96800329>"You can choose any kind of elemental concept, such as space, time, fate, and the like">fate is an elementhigher concepts as elements are literally verbatim to the choice
>>96800329Daos are the elements of reality itself. It explicitly says esoteric elements are allowed. Someone wants to pick Yang, or emptiness, or perfection, or slaughter it's totally fine.
>>96800322even loli feet? you said EVERYTHING.
>>96800361Yea it's just not a very powerful Dao. And speaking of the Dao I suspect Rake didn't use the term Dao for the choice because he wants to differentiate his setting, just like him using RE instead of Qi.
>>96800211>because ganging up on a cultivator of the came level is more efficient.It's easily the worst and least efficient way to increase ""your"" power. Cultivation is incredibly resource heavy. For every person in ""your"" team, you require 100% more resources and investment. For every inheritance or resource found, it must be split between your team. If you have the resources to raise a group of 5 people, you could have taken 5x the resources and cultivated much, much faster. Not only that, a difference in cultivation level is a qualitative difference that, beyond a certain level, quantity cannot overcome. You simply cannot keep up if you split things equally.So what do you do? You use rules and rewards. Within a organization, one must contribute. In return, one receives rewards. The elites promise certain things to the jobbers. Protection, security, justice or kinship. In return, the Elites gain more resources than they can personally collect. But it's never equal - the entire purpose of the organization is to funnel resources to the top. The weak die for the benefit of the strong. This is the hypocrisy of "righteous"fags.Except, even the ones at the top of the organization are entangled in the web of rules and regulations. You cannot act freely and brazenly pursue your own self interest. If you disrupt the carrot and stick balancing act too much, the organization will simply collapse and you'll lose your benefits. You can conceal your theft and deception, but you fuck yourself in doing so.So why? For what? What's the difference in sending some poor jobber off to war so he can maybe bring you 10 spirit stones or whatever, vs. just refining him into a pill? He's still dead, you still caused it, and you still did it to advance your own power.If you're going to cheat, lie, and steal to advance yourself, then do it with conviction and sincerity.
>>96800378This is its own setting not your chinese webtoon
>>96800372>just like him using RE instead of Qi.He doesn't really, he put in the info boxes at the end that it's just what DIMA calls Qi, everyone else has a different name for it depending on the world but it's all the same energy.
>>96800378Anon you're sounding like a straight out Anarchist at this point.
>>96800378If only there were people you cared about, who you wanted to get stronger...
>>96800372smart choice but that did not prevent retards to think its a 1=1 comparison thinking the same identical rules applies.>>96800378who the fuck cares about righteousfags? me and my gang will take our time and gang up on enemies a stage or 2 stronger than us and let me eat their brains to gain more abilities.further down the line at the same stage who do you think will be stronger my devourer who just kept hunting with my group stronger and stronger prey or your karmic aligned devil?
>>96800378There is so much wrong with this logic that I don't even know where to start. Not that anything I say will change your mind, you are either a shitposter or have a very distorted view of the setting, and probably the world, either way discussion is pointless.
>he doesn't have Fated ShotYou're a jobber.>he doesn't have Machine TranscendenceYou're a super jobber. The jobber to end all jobbers.
I just want to say that reading the opinions of this general has done more to make me racist than reading the opinions of racists.
>>96800496what if i have just one of them?
>>96800496>t. Writhing Swarm's Canticle victim
>>96800496>t. gets their soul sucked out of their databasegit gud, machinefag
>>96800501racist against who? machines? indians?
>>96800383My disciple...
>>96800517why must you take the bait every time?
>>96800529cyoag lives and dies by its bait. if no one takes it, cyoag dies
>Actually! This thing works like this, even if the cyoa doesn't say that. How do I know? I saw it on a chinese wuxia comic, so it is totally canon to this cyoa too because they are both wuxia!!
>>96800496Another victim of the Brain-Severing Mantra
>>96800554Its the shadow spirit sutra. They removed their brain.
>y-you’re wrong! I have no argument but you must be wrong!!!!almost pitiable
>>96800538>>96800569This habit of talking to the air is unsightly. Respond properly or don't respond at all.
>>96800538> PLAP PLAP PLAP BREED ETNA BREED ETNA PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>96800577ded franchise
>>96800576its so fucking annoying when they do that.
>>96800581Technically alive, they got Disgaea 7 out. So the franchise is alive, even if a shadow.However, even if the franchise died tomorrow. That doesn't change> PLAP PLAP PLAP BREED ETNA BREED ETNA PLAP PLAP PLAP
>its so fucking annoying when they do that.Said an anon, inside his house fearing to have a discussion with me>do-don't notice me anon sama!!He cried in his sleep.
>>96800602Who's anon?
>>96800608his sexfriend
>Who's anon?The desesperate anon said, pitifully feigning ignorance. Who is anon? you say as you dig your blue pupil into mine. Who is anon? And you ask me? Anon… is you.
>>96800623I wasn't talking to you?And really, who is this anon guy?
>>96800632Ignore anon, anon.
>>96800461>me and my gang will take our time and gang up on enemies a stage or 2 stronger than us Doubtful, considering the power gap between tiers. Better cross your fingers and hope everything goes well.>karmic alignedImagine arbitrarily restricting yourself to one set of actions in accomplishing your goals.>who do you think will be strongerMe, obviously. After I join your group, betray you in a fight, and eat your brains. Or convince your allies to betray you for profit. Or bait you into a trap. Or simply spend my time doing something that’s actually worth my time, like trading for spirit stones.Did you think you could create an amoral organization focused around making (YOU) stronger through trust and good will or something? Why would anyone sincerely want to join the cannibal murder friendship club? And why is combing through endless hordes of low level trash for a handful of jobber tier powers your go-to plan?
Anon is kil
>>96800634Thank you A-manI think I might worry about these people too much
>>96800638>mastermind contract makes you unable to betray usit is this easy
>>96800461It would be 1:1Not 1=1You could write it a Ci=Bi, to imply all of the components have a match, but that would be weird and you shouldn't
>>96800638>After I join your group>convince your allies to betray you for profit>he really thinks he can do that, incredible
CC is explicitly a Xianxia setting.
CCC is a weird setting, like, all of that happening inside the moon?
>>96800667with aliens and guns
>>96800667But its still not your Chinese webtoon.
>>96800674Extra is happening in the moon, and extella, and extella link, all in succession. CCC is even stranger because it's just a spinoff with questionable canon consequences.
>>96800667So what? Just because a cyoa is in a sci-fi setting I can't go around pretending the force, chaos gods, and reapers are all real in that setting.
>>96800664>my evil murderous companions would NEVER EVER betray me EVERlearn to greentext retard
>>96800707Or what? You are going to call the 4chan police?
>>96800707someone's mad
>>96800698If I understood it, the canon consecuences happen in FGO, as there a beast is born from CCC kiara's memories, and then BB, Passionlip and Meltlilith exist in FGO as a consecuence. Apart from that, the ending is suppose to link with the almost ending of Extra. Now we know someone won the first round because the neet was doing neet things despite having an overpowered servant, and that she is alive at the end with whoever you choose to save, Rin or the homunculous. I didn't play extella and extella link yet, but I saw the draconic lancer returns.
>>96800703This is like saying you can’t expect there to be saloons, revolvers, or cowboys in an old west setting. Like, what the fuck are you smoking?
>>96800730?????
>>96800730>Pretending to be retardedYou know what he meant
>>96800751>>>>pretending
>>96800721You see, I played extella and started link, but it's a mess, and I didn't actually play extra but I do have it. This is not really the place for it but you need to play extella 4 times to actually get the true ending, with each time being slightly different, but since I didn't play all of extra yet I don't know what ending extella starts from, or even if the game has more than one ending. I think extella assumes you choose Nero in extra, but Tamamo is also there. Also if you mean Elizabeth then yes, she does come back, with most of the cast of extra, and she has a surprisingly important role to the point I am honestly disappointed she doesn't have a route for herself, considering what she does in the story she kinda deserves one.
>>96800765If its the servant endings. Saber: the canon oneThe rest: not canon. Even Tamamo who is competing for best waifu
>>96800774>Even Tamamo who is competing for best waifu>Cheats on you with another master and laughs at you for peeking
>>96800765>>96800774In CCC you even play as Elizabeth for a little while. And she is the boss with the most amount of fights, being the boss of like 3-4 chapters. She also has character developtment.And yes, all the games, and even mangas except one that was about Tamamo, assume you picked Nero. She is the canon servant. She is also clearly the favourite of the developers when she got the best swimsuit and a bridal costume in CCC, and Tamamo got a normal swimsuit and bdsm costume.
>>96800383>>96800388>>96800390>>96800461>>96800485Some people choose to remain ignorant. Sad!
>>96800774After I couldn't contain my curiosity and searching for it I can say that it's apparently neither. In pure Nasuverse fashion it seems to start from a very strange mix of endings that I don't think is ever properly explained.>>96800798What?
Aren't all Type-Moon "waifus" super used goods and also mostly just terrible people?
this is a brown third world general
>>96800798Every servant has the sexy scene with Rin and Rani. And if you want to talk about that, Nero constantly speaks about how beautiful the women are in CCC, and has comments like saying she wants to touch the breasts of an enemy and envies bigger breasts or how she gets excited when swimsuits and girls are mentioned in the same phrase. Tamamo just kinda rolled with Rin/Rani because the MC is very dickless when you pick Tamamo, and simps for Nero. >You pick Nero, the MC get dirty thoughts all the time>You pick Tamamo, who throws herself to the MC, the joke is the MC ignoring her and even wondering if he should use a command so Tamamo can't change clothes
>>96800845There are no excuses for infidelity, anon.
>>96800833They're based off real women, so yes
>>96800845>She cheated but it is finelmao
>>96800812Well I can tell that she is special in the eyes of the devs, even in extella the "true ending" is technically her route but slightly different. But extella places a surprising amount of focus on the strange relationship between Eliza and the MC, in a way she is closer to him that any of the 3 supposed main servants. It would be kinda massive spoilers to say why but it's very surprising how much she cares.Then you have Artoria clearly shoved in just because with one of the most meme unlock requitements I have ever seen in an otherwise serious game.
>>96800845That kinda gets "fixed" in extella, the MC clearly likes Tamamo too in that one.>>96800833Not really, by sheer amount and with the "lily" versions being there it's not really an options. Some are based on real "used goods" but get canonically changed to something else, with the absolute mess that is the servant system and how each instance is technically a different person and some of the strange alternate hystory messes. Artoria is the main one and her situation is too complicated to count for anything.
>>96800832Extra: nero. CanonExtra (in Extella's timeline): Nero. And also gets Tamamo because of the whole Twice fuckery.CCC: Gil and for a moment Elizabeth. Extella: Nero and TamamoSo there is two timelines. Extra and Extra (extella), with Extra original ending in Extra's ending, with the MC only getting Nero. And then the extella timeline, where the MC got two servants. And there is more fuckery because Leo in CCC is the canon final participant of Extra, but then in Extella they ditched him for a genderbend.Fate is weird.
>>96800833This is why Eli is my favourite, she is specifically the version of her that is still kinda a horrible person but not too far gone.
>>96800838Yeah.>Suspiciously poor English skills.>The drawing is a child? Based, own those whiteoids. The drawing is adulterous? DEATH.>They can't self-insert into an original character because poor breeding and leaded water has strangled their empathy.>They also want to literally teleport into a better country right now.>Violent culture leaves them unable to appreciate any form of power except for the direct ability to inflict violence.
>>96800918This sounds like uber cope that could give wrath of the righteous players and their "succubus revirginilized" a run for their money.
>>96800940>Anon is upset people don't share his NTR fetishHow pathetic.
>>96800944Was that real? lmao
>>96800944I mean, it's a franchise with hundreds of "waifus" and answering in a precise manner without pinpointing who you mean is kinda impossible. The "saberfaces" are the main ones and most of them are either virgins or a mess dependng on techicalities and possibly headcanon because it's not exactly clear how shit happened. Statistically there are probably less used goods than not but I don't know who the main waifus are, and it changes with the times too.
>>96800944I saw someone desperately trying to argue that she was a total dyke before meeting that goddess, but I vaguely remember that her quest involved her ex who is an Azata gigachad, so I question that theory's validity.
>>96800959Yes. There is a succubus companion character in the game. She was, of course, an ultra evil slut that fucked everything and everyone, but later wanted to be redeemed. There is the option to romance her and at the end of it, a goddess gives her back her hymen so that you can pretend she is your pure wife, lmao
>>96800955Its pasta at this point.
>>96800978Wait, is this actually in a game? It sounds like fan content.
Any good reasons to take Alice the mad as companion? I was going to include her as companion with the update but now there are a lot more choices.
>>96800978Desna is a pretty cool goddess though.
>>96800994Not cool enough to give you a real wife
It's weird that the pathfinder games go out of their way to make all female romance options used goods, isn't it?
>>96801003There is one companion girl who is not used goods and you are not allowed to marry her, lol
>>96800944>>96800959>>96800972>>96800978She got dicked down by the entire abyss...>>96800988No, its real
>>96800991Nah, she's a liability if anything and her abilities aren't that useful. If you need a dependent waify just pick Iska. She's probably one of the most useful companions too, especially you don't have mind based methods.
>>96800991Yandere levels of loyalty and a mindcontrol method to spread that loyalty. She is an army maker, and possibly an assassin that needs you to exist in a similar way to the spirit. If she can be fixed or not is debatable, as well as if you actually want to fix her, she seems significantly more powerful/useful broken. Morality would get in the way of her method, so fixing her would mean finding a new one for her. I guess she counts as kinda a custom companion if you fix her since she has to start from scratch.
I love Camellia!
Anon... I know I fucked the whole city during my 20s. But I can still be your pure wife. Don't be an incel and accept me!
>>968009911. Rake considered her, his preferred companion2. If you like yandere and mentally dependent people3. If you like overprotective girlsI could choose her depending on how much healthy mentally you can make her be.
>>96801010>her abilities aren't that usefulThe small changes to her ability descriptions really activated my almonds.
>>96801007You're talking about Amiri, right? She was my go to option when I played the first game, I'm still mad about that particular rugpull. The halfling might've been a virgin too but nobody even considers her lol.
>>96801010Whats so good about Iska? I didn't really understand her thing.
>>96800997Well yeah anon Pathfinder isn't real, it's a ttrpg.
>>96801017Lol, she didn't say she was pure. She likes to brag about liking harems, one of her Sacret Gardens in CCC, which are fetishes of the girls, is that she really likes harems.The "pure" one is Tamamo, who has even 1 move who is the castration fist anti harems.
>>96760739>balance update>Before the 21st of this month.
>>96801023I think he means the retarded elf child. Amri gotten rusty dogged and she definitely wasn't anyone's idea of a pure wife before that.
>>96801019>1. Rake considered her, his preferred companionR-rake?
CATACLYSM!!
>>96801037>The "pure" one is Tamamo, who has even 1 move who is the castration fist anti harems.BASED MonoGOD>>96801015She is useful, is she not?
>>96799172Between heart severing mantral, akashic ascension and celestial scrolls. What synergizes best with vermillion verses and why? What about which one synergizes the worst?
>>96801019The real question is how much you can heal her before she has to change her method. Her description makes it clear that she was a pretty friendly/positive person before, her method broke with her, but it can't be fixed, only she can heal.
>>96801003It's never explicitly said the tiefling twins had sex before. You can assume sure, but it's not stated.
>>96800978No, I played the game, I meant people genuinely thinking she was a virgin.>>96801059All tie flings are sluts
>>96801037Isn't Tamamo just that girl that got married to an emperor and then cheated on him like crazy?
>>96801043Ember's not really a child anymore, she's over 100. She's just so traumatized and mentally broken she's never grown up.
>>96801059>he thinks the slutling sisters were virgins before they agreed to jump into a 3some with you....
>>96801067She's Daji Su but she doesn't like to talk about it.
>>96801055Why do you want to heal her
>>96801022I suppose she might be better than I initially thought, but she still doesn't compare to Iska.>>96801025She's some kind of psychic spirit. Which means that you can have her possess you, specially if you have Perfect Conduit to protect you from any type of mind/soul fuckery. If you have something like mutated dantians you can just let her feast on your RE to advance her stages, which will most likely make her a massively strong spiritual entity. Basically, she allows an entire new vector through which you can attack others and defend yourself. The only issue with her is that she's a moralfag, so she probably won't willingly help you brainwash others, even though her powers more than allow that. You might be able to convince her with the right Blessings though.
>>96801025My build >>96799234 because it is physically focused and could use some help with the spirit world. Also I am hoping she can help with my possession issue.
>>96801054Celestial Scrolls is the best if you go dick devouring. Otherwise Heart Severing is the best.
>>96801055Nah, the question is how much you can heal. It is said the worst can't be repaired, so don't worry about her method. In fact, if she gains some mental capacities she would become stronger, as she is barely a person now.But how is an Alice you healed all that could be healed? just a "normal" yandere? can you talk with her like a normal person?
>>96801076My build took her*
>>96801070>>96801059>You can assume sure, but it's not stated.I'm being Debbie's Avocado here, anon.
>>96801072So she is even worse, lmao
>>96801067Kinda? The fate version is a bit different, and even the "real" version has a lot of different retellings. In some she was not exactly stoked to be his wife but was forced, so as revenge she destroyed his kingdom. I think the fate version is going for that but it's been a while.
>dick devourer anons 0.001 seconds after trying to kill the homeless beggar on the street corner (it was an old monster in disguise)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg
>>96801079How did celestial scrolls help with dick devouring again?
>96801098>tok immediately back after anons start discussing a well liked cyoa again
>>96801067In Fate's lore? No. In real life lore? Yes. Just like in real life lore Nero is a guy with a big beard, and in Fate is the chick in red you saw earlier.In Fate Tamamo is one aspect of Amaterasu, the aspect of Amaterasu that wanted to marry and experience love. So she reincarnated a part of herself into a human girl, said girl is Tamamo, she was the most beautiful girl in Japan and fell in love with the emperor, they married but before the act was consumed, a man of the government accussed her of a lot of things, making the whole thing nul and making her flee. She then killed her pursuers with her powers, and when she got tired she wanted to talk with them, but got killed.So Fate Tamamo is a virgin
>>96801043I don't think Amiri fucked anyone because her attitude in the first game is initially that of a man-hating dyke. The dudes probably didn't fuck her either because her tribe's men didn't like women who behaved like men.>rusty doggedI'm not even going to ask. Also, ember is like one of the retards who act like children even though they are adults. I suppose she's a virgin, but I honestly wouldn't feel too good about fucking her.
>>96801101Lets you use opposing elements together, which dick devouring will surely provide you.
>>96801098How was I supposed to know that the murdehobos took the hobo part so seriously.
>>96801110>So Fate Tamamo is a virginUntil Rani/Rin takes it anyway.
>>96801125This made me laugh more than it should have.
>>96801059The blue one might be a virgin, but the red one was stated to have some chad from a celestial bloodline. In fact, part of schtick is approaching and taking advantage of powerful men to get her way and protection. It's why she's so receptive to your advances too, she's initially playing you. Eventually she comes around on the ending though.
>Pathfinderfags>FatefagsWhy does this thread attract them like flies
>>96801074I think Mutated dantians wouldn't let you do that because they are exclusively for techniques.So if I understand, she is just a spirit with spirit techniques.My problem with her is the last bit of her description, unlike Lyra, that would be eternally grateful, or Kairos, that becomes truly your bro, it makes it seem lika Iska won't leave you because she needs you. And that is bad as she will eventualyl be able to exist by herself, so if she is not loyal...
>>96801129Peak type/moon. Baiting the players with a beautiful virgin only to make them watch as she is taken away.
>>96801129Isn't the whole "mana transfer" just kissing with extra steps? the concept got retconned.
>>96801113Oh yeah makes sense
>>96801125I mean, if you were insanely powerful, wouldn't you go around as a hobo? Probably more fun than sitting and meditating in some pocket realm for a gorillion years.
>>96801129I doubt they actually fucked. And even if that happens, that would happen if you pick her in Extra, and she is not the canon option. So canonically that doesn't happen. Then in Extella you got her anyway
>>96801149Nah if you read the scene it's pretty obvious there's some heavy petting going on.
>>96801160The guys working on the Extra remake already told us they're removing that scene so if it EVER comes out it's getting retconned away anyway.
>>96801160>If you pick the virgin waifu, she gets fucked by someone elseHoly japan
>>96801161p-petting? lewd~
My servant is Nero and she FUCKS Rin. Then she fucks me and tells me Rin's weakspots for the later threesome. Umu
>>96801129It's 3 girls anon.>>96801149Arguably, I am pretty sure it's "all body fluids" now, with a preference for blood, but saliva and other stuff works too.
>>96801174>It's 3 girls anon.Lesbian sex is sex.
>>96801171Nero get off the keyboard, you're not fooling anyone.
Rani/Rin give you a kiss before they go in to fuck your Servant so depending on how you look at it you could call it a double cucking.
>>96801179>But girl with girl is not cheatingThey say they are okay with that until a dyke comes in real life and takes away their girlfriend
>>96801141You can just have her feast on your regular RE pool, bro. If you have Perfect Conduit you can even absorb malignant RE from zombies. Also, her character card states that she will be loyal to you, unless you seriously mistreat her. Very feel companions wouldn't abandon you if you treated them badly. >it says she will stick around because she needs youYou save her life she will be with you permanently, specially if you give her a body or teach her to make one. Just make her your waifu and she will never leave your side. Part of my build was to just tell her to possess my body and stay there, particularly during fights. Nothing contradicts this, in fact she's probably one of the most loyal companions. Someone like Mary Su, might have a much higher chance to leave you.
>>96801171CCC makes you go into Rin's mind and do bdsm with her as she cries.In fact, CCC is all about entering girls minds and tell the girls about their fetishes, then "punish" them lewdly. The MC still ended virgin.
>>96801194>The MC still ended virginCan't have shit in Japanese media that is not +18
>>96801141>so if she is not loyal...You wouldn't be loyal to the person who saved your life?>>96801125What are you supposed to do after you reach the last stage of power as one of those demonic or slaughter-obsessed cultivators? Just put down the sword and congratulate yourself on having done enough murder to win?>>96801190This is why I only get along well with gay men irl
>>96801179Not in this case.
>>96801200Slaughter method isn't complete until you refine the suns of 3000 worlds into bombs that will simultaneously go supernova and complete your universal slaughtering method, to make you into super duper slaughter god.
>>96801171>>96801110Nameless/Emiya is better BTW
>>96801203Wrong.
>>96801141She still needs you to feed her, because she's a moralfag and refuses to kill people and eat their soul. So unless you deliberately fuck everything up, she will stick around.
>>96801215They gave him a horrible haircut in extella link.
Why is Rin such a slut?
>>96801226true but still otherwise he clears
>>96801215Isn't he considered easy mode?
>>96801200>Just put down the sword and congratulate yourself on having done enough murder to win?No, after that its just recreational murder. Just good times without the pressure.
>>96801242That just shows how superior he is.
>>96801200>What are you supposed to do after you reach the last stage of powerbe god chillaxmaybe in a few eons I'll think of another goal I want to pursue
>>96801192>Also, her character card states that she will be loyal to youDoes it? where? I only saw the part of she won't abandon you as long as you feed her>You save her life she will be with you permanently, specially if you give her a body or teach her to make onethat would make sense but the last part of her description makes it seem like she just will be with you because she needs you to feed herself.>Just make her your waifu and she will never leave your sideHow can you romance the mind fusion of billions of people?>Nothing contradicts this, in fact she's probably one of the most loyal companions. Someone like Mary Su, might have a much higher chance to leave you.I also think Marie is one that could leave you.Overall, my loyalty rankings are>Basically eternally loyal ifyou don't treat them badKairos. Lyra. Hirak. Richard (if you give him hope). Alva. Ajax> loyal. Good friendsRachel. Catherine. Urul. Plantman. Marie.>Sees you as an enterprise/propertyAkua. Yisod. Nalka>Mentally unstable/needs youIska. AliceAnd just like Alice, I don't truly see Iska being very loyal if her problem is resolved, she would be to a point, but not like Kairos, for example
>>96801217Her progression will make her develop the ability to be by herself eventually. She will at some point not need you
>>96801252>>96801242Not bad for a character that never won a single fight on the original vn
>>96801262Where is sword girl? She also seems pretty loyal if you manage to ground her and avoid her becoming "one with the sword"
>>96801232She is canonically a virgin too btw>>96801242In extra itsEasy: NeroMid: NamelessHard: Tamamo (fuckers, it truly is)In CCC itsEasy: neroMid: NamelessHard: TamamoCheat: gil
>>96801273He didn't have protagonist powers back then, on a technicality. With you he does. He was my main in extella.
>>96801262Where does Cassian rank in this
>>96801279I would put her in Mentally unstable/needs you and Good friends at the same time. As she can lose herself, but what stops her is your bond with her. You are clearly important to her beyond her mental state, but also... she is going crazy
>>96801286>Hard: Tamamo (fuckers, it truly is)I noticed, it was a bad idea to start with her without context. But I don't like Nero and Nameless is a guy and boring.
>>96801286>cheat>king of jobbersPick one
>>96801294Nemesis bait.
>>96801294I think I would create a place between Enterprise and Good friends. As he sees you as a partner in crime, but also form a camaraderie.So he is just a "meh" friend that works with you. Above Nalka and Yisod but not a really good friend.
>>96801279I never read her description, I was sure she was just Ciri from witcher so I was not interested.
>>96801308tell that to the game. This is his description as you choose a servant.
>>96801320She is nothing. She has no personality. Literally.
>>96801273I mean, literally all of Shirou's wins are because of him except in Fate, and still he is Shirou, so...And besides when he can do what he wants he literally manipulates everyone to do whatever he wants, he could defeat medea in her homeground, he beats both assasins and he fights Cu(Who is built to fuck with him) to a standstill leaving Cu completely drained of mana unable to keep fighting.He could win the Holy Grail War by himself but he literally doesn't care about it.
>>96801303at some point I started to use Save states. The game expects you to be able to memorize 50 patterns or be truly lucky to survive 6 turns with wet paper defenses.
>>96801314Anons really are taking jade beauty and Cassian as nemesis
>>96801346And Kizaru fed luffy so he is stronger
Fatefaggots shut the fuck up alreadyYou had your hour, now scurry back to your holes
>>96801273He stomped Medea even when he was protecting Shirou and in her own power center.And I guess you could say that his sneak attacks count as wins.
>>96801360This is true. Kizaru is stronger than the 2 pumps chump. Don't let onepiecepowerscalling lie to you, the admiral agenda will win. I am ready for him. Barnacle is crazy
>>96801360I lost track of one piece what happened?ANd there is noddistinction between Shirou and archer they are the same person.
>>96801372They are not ready for HIM
>>96801366I'd rather scurry into yours instead
>>96801358>you made me gay, now you'll pay with your life... and your bussy
>>96801382>I lost track of one piece what happened?Since Kaido. Kizaru "fought" with Luffy. Vegapunk appeared. They got to Elbaph, the prince of the giants started a flashblack, this is the present. The flashblack is peak>>96801384they truly are not
This made me want to create OC
>>96801421what is "this"? so I can replicate it in OC droughts
Nemesis tierlist? Who will you take anons?
>>96801446If I could kill him, Yisod. But I can't so Akua. Killing the demon cult leader is a classic.
>>96801446Marie Su. I ain't no goddamn jobber. I'd win.
>>96801457It definitely is a classic but what makes you say you can't kill him?
>>96801446>my reaction to your image
>>96801468>gets slave collared
>>96801472I don't want to kill the guy just minding his business and having autism for crafting.
>>96801474it's okay you're gay anon
>>96801446None because I prefer not to job by having practically immortal enemy protected by fate who will hunt me and cant be reasoned with.
How hard is it to kill the nemesis. Has Rake said anything more concrete about it? Are we talking about earth killing or is this more of a beyond stage 9 thing?
>>96801468She's one of the strongest, you're just making your life harder for no reason. You need to go against easy ones, simple ones, primitive even. Like Hirak or Cassian.
>>96801483I'd iron will my way out of it.
>>96801508Sorry, the collar blocks blessings and iron will is a blessing.
>>96801272Sure, but at that point you would've already built a very strong bond with her. Her personality clearly indicates that she's a decent person, even with the whole amalgamation thing going on. She literally chooses to avoid the only source of food she has other than RE because she considers even seeking it out immoral.>>96801262You can infer most of it from her personality. I suppose that if you are a complete psycho dick devourer than there's a chance she won't stick around, but that's probably true even considering she needs you, she seems to genuinely dislike evil and is tortured by the deaths that constitute her existence. It's implied that's she's empathetic because she suffered the pain of billions of people. If you treat her well enough, save her life, help her get a body and develop a relationship with her, there's no reason she won't stick around. You're saying that her absolute loyalty is no explicitly stated, but it is most certainly implied. She also seems to have an awfully dependent personality.
>>96801507>you're just making your life harderGOOD.You think it should be easy?Really?
>>96801486Al-Al-Alter... my beloved.
>>96801516Gunter...
>>96801521Did someone say Alta?
>>96801507>void body / lucky dice / iron will / heaven blessedYou can completely fuck her up with this combination.
>>96801516I'm making my own life harder by taking unreasonable amount of drawbacks because I want power. You're making your life harder for no good reason at all. We are not the same.
>>96801531
>>96801507>gets 1 shotted by Cassian, because his physical form is equivalent to 1 stage abovengmi
>>96801531Alta? I remember that name, she was the rival of Drace that usually lost to her
>>96801543Anyone who picks Cassian as a nemesis is setting their companions up to get assaulted.
Hey jobbers. Are you all forgetting that you start as a normal human in a world you know nothing about and it is also the zombie mutant apocalypse?
>>96801543He's just pretty much invincible on his stage, nothing says he has a grand inheritance tier physique
>>96801543>Thinks being 1 stage above is impressiveHow are you this big of a jobber? Did you not take drawbacks? Did you take Fated Job Doctrine?
>>96801563This is why you should pick him as a companion so you can assault women together>>96801564>normal human
>>96801564That's why you take Minotaur Lair, it's the totorial.
>>96801446They would all make for a dangerous nemesis, but the hardest by far would have to be Yisod. Fate would conspire to have him snatched up by the Grand Bazaar and then he'd have all the resources he needs to craft perfect counters to your methods specifically designed for the best mercenaries that spirit stones can buy. Which aren't that dangerous, because if they were truly powerful they'd just take the resources they needed rather than working contract to contract, but surely are no slouches.
>>96801564I took false death blessing so I can easily survive the zombie apocalypse unlike every jobber in this thread.
>>96801563My two companions I have are a ghost that lives inside my body and a twink that lives inside my pocket dimension, he's not getting either of them. That being said, I rather have Marie Su as a nemesis, and if I meet the faggot in the wild I'm immediately killing him.
>>96801468>>96801508>ngmi-anon is still reeling
>>96801573For 2 stages, you die to everything that a normal human dies to. Like an apple falling on the back of your head.
>>96801564Not my first combat zone
>>96801543He has very good PHYSICAL durability for his stage. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>96801564>implyingfuck Earth, I'm living in the Grand Bazaaryou DID take the ticket + merchant blessing... right?
>>96801597Is your skull made out of paper or something?
>>96801586All the other jobbers are dying of thirst. In their heads, they saw themselves as gods, only to die in stage 1 as they are unable to find an unpolluted source of water after exiting the starting facility.
>>96799172Out of all ngmi builds here which one of them will ngmi the most?
>>96801629All of them because of this >>96801621
>>96801446I like taking the Wandering Swordswoman as a nemesis as she is a bit of a one trick pony and you can take her sword (which ought to be Dharma weapon tier) if you win.
>>96801621I also took jade beauty so I will easily make other people share their water with me
>dyingnigga just use salubrious tonic
>>96801621Bro, your Lost Legacy?
>>96801635>ought to be Dharma weapon tierHoly headcanon. You can put it next to>The cannibal has devourer and you can get it for free by killing them>Killing the dragon drawback gives a free primordial essence with devourer
>>96801619Apples are dangerous, from the top branches of a mature tree they can crack your head like a stone.
>>96801506It wouldn't become easier or harder at high stage so you can do it anytime. As long as you can consistently win you just need to keep rolling the dice and hope it sticks. And yes, you can consistently win if you do it right, being matched in strength isn't the same as equal in a fight.
>>96801621You are fated to participate in events, doomfag.
>>96801586You beat me too it.
>>96801654They are also poisonous, apple seeds are lethal with the right dose.
>>96801564that's not true at all, there's in fact a drawback that makes only half of the problems you just imagined true, but most people don't pick it so they start with perfect knowledge about the amazing superpowers they literally wake up with
>>96801658Not how it works, otherwise you would be immortal. Being able to never be killed by the dragon drawback in a direct fight at stage 2 because you have yet to fight the corpse king event.
>>96801658>dies and gets eaten by cannibal 1 second after leaving facility.
nah, you'd lose
>>96801621>not starting with enough resources to cultivate for 50 years without moving your ass from the pod you woke up in>not exiting the facility at stage 3 or 4, only because it would have been boring to keep cultivating in a basement foreverngmialso polluted water is good for my venom cultivation, fuck you
>>96801651Fate empowers your nemesis to be equivalent to you, what's it going to do to a person like her to make that happen? If you want to empower the sword autist to GI level the best method is to improve her method or the sword itself.
>he's not cultivating inside the LL until he is at least stage 5 Ngmi
>>96801666Anons wouldn't believe how many apples Thousand Venoms Texts cultivators go through in a week.
>>96801675Is not about that knowledge. It is about the fact that you have no idea where anything is on the planet. You can't even find water. You are dead in 2 days.
>>96801597This isn't even true
>>968016945? You mean 55.
>>96801699water literally falls from the sky retard
>>96801676This only means that you'll meet him later. It's very simple to not autolose in your own imagination, you should try it.
>>96801699bro you wake up in new england's version of black mesa, you aren't in some desert
>>96801693It doesn't boost the shit she already has, it just gives her new shit.
>>96801621The true CDDA experience
>>96801693Getting better at her method? you don't need to get a Dharma weapon to fight the Dharma weapon guy.If you are stage 5 with Dharma weapon and I am stage 6, I can fight you.The mere fact the GI are NOT something you can find in Earth, unless you pick them, should be enough. This is like saying if you pick Lyra as a nemesis her bloodline evolves into primordial bloodline
Youth is literally free points if you have lost legacy.
>>96801651I haven't heard a dick devourer say they thought the dragon had a primordial bloodline, but it definitely has an above average one and it is one of the reasons to take that drawback as it is more dangerous than others.
Youth is literally free points if you want to be the little girl
>>96801720It's free points even without that, seriously.
social blessings are all you need to beat CC
>>96801720Youth is more ammo for lifespan sacrifice techniques.
>>96801707Better get lucky that it falls within two days>>96801711Just hope those lakes filled with corpses and broken buildings are safe to drink, anon. After all, you are still human at stage 1 and 2.
>>96801727Drawbacks are all pretty reasonable imo, they only get really deadly in conjunction with each other
>>96801722>I haven't heard a dick devourer say they thought the dragon had a primordial bloodlineI did.>but it definitely has an above average one and it is one of the reasons to take that drawback as it is more dangerous than others.yep, it would be one of those very good bloodlines that with dick devourer and more draconic bloodlines, you could refine into a primordial dragon bloodline contender eventually, even if just in strength and not actually being fro ma primordial dragon
>>96801720A bunch of drawbacks are free points if you have the right methods. Some are just free points in general desu.
>>96801715>>96801718She would reject most good fortune if it deviated from her dedication to the sword. IE fate has to give into her sword autism if it wants to further empower her.
>>96801733>totally relying on others in a xianxia
>>96801735>Better get lucky that it falls within two days>the luck blessing
>>96801733>Hey Dragon, lets let bygones be bygones and be friends
>>96801749Not everyone has it. That is why some are ngmi>>96801746see >>96800383
>>96801755Most do, to the point I would call it a tax.
>>96801735most people are just going to drink the pure water from their lost legacy or hop over to the market to buy spirit wine, but you keep on larping
>>96801752In jady beauty description it says even inhuman foes recognize your beauty. So yes that would actually work.
>>96801752Unironically the reason I didn't took jade beauty. I don't want to be raped by a stage 73901 elder master that happen to see me from his golden tower.
>>96801765i don't, i think it's worse than seventh sense for finding opportunities and avoiding dangers, and some other blessings like iron will for other stuff
>>96801775His seed would probably be a really good ingredient for pills to boost your cultivation though.
>>96801775Bro, your heaven blessed + lonely?
>>96801766Not everyone picked lost legacy
>>96800383>>96801755You keep saying that but this setting follows most of the tropes so it isn't unreasonable to compare it to them
>>96801781He could also probably teach you and gift GI tier treasures if you came willingly
>>96801769>Ajax sexo
>>96801797Considering it has a companion section and a power of friendship, I think not.
>>96801777You can take both seventh sense and heaven-blessed, thats what I did.
>Jade beauty guy getting kidnapped by the Swarm Queen and becoming her boy toyKino
>>96801810Me too, anons just inventing problems
Doomsayer makes me laugh.
>>96801804No sexo for daughteru
>>96801794yes, but everyone has the option to get basic provisions somewhere, including many other options than lost legacy, such as the market that i mentionedif you were too dumb to think about that then you're stuck raiding black mesa vending machines for soft drinks and candy bars i guessalso has anyone else noticed that cataclysmic cultivation is practically based on cataclysm dark days ahead?
You can take most blessings by stacking drawbacks. How many drawbacks does it even have? I think it's about 20 and most of them are either fixable or manageable.
>>96801800>Letting the rich ugly bastard fuck your bussy for the sake of your agendaThe Grifith special.
>>96801809Counter: the existence of dick devourer and Bloodstained Vermilion Verses
>>96801810it's unnecessary when you could have gotten something like lowly junior instead, there's so many different survival blessings, heaven-blessed is the least reliable one
>>96801826she not daughteru.she waifu
>>96801827>also has anyone else noticed that cataclysmic cultivation is practically based on cataclysm dark days ahead?The name didn't tip you off?
>>96801838It's good for other things
>>96801841the name isn't really enough on its own, but the zombie apocalypse where the zombies turn into more and more magical monstrosities along with the printed paper are
>>96801827It will be hard to get spirit stones within 2 days to buy that water.>Dark days aheadYes, I am trying to turn it into that for the first 2 stages. So stop fighting me and help me convince the other anons.
I wish Cataclysm DDA had an actual Cultivation mod.
>>96801855How would that even work?
>>96801746>relying on othersmanipulating others*Don't tell me you thought you could cultivate while being a retard that can't even trick other people into giving you what you want? Embarrassing.
>>96801845it's good for everything in little bits, sure, i just don't think it's better than any of the other 10 blessings i took, so it didn't make the cut>>96801850sorry, i played cdda with the magic mod so i basically just cultivated in a lighthouse until i was really good at throwing exploions with mana and then i just started depopulating towns of zombies after that
>>96801850It's literally not. It's like that guy who thinks we will get killed by raiders right away but rejected the idea that the secret government facility had guns in it.
>>96801838you know, repeatedly asserting your headcannon doesn't make it true
>>96801863presumably like the current mutation system and magic mods, except several times the content placed into different stages
>>96801869There are things that only luck can do
>>96801863It already has martial arts, crafting, and several magic mods. Just have you meditate or study manual loot to build up qi, harvest resources from enemies to refine into pills or forge into artifacts, learn techniques and martial arts from stuff.
>>96801879it's not headcanon if you're judging the utility of something, i'm not claiming anything is any different than its description in the cyoa>>96801883there literally aren't, luck applies to other things, there's no such thing as pure luck that doesn't affect the rest of the world unless you're talking about bottled luck such as in the dice, but that's not doing anything for you until you apply it to something in the world
>>96801740It's definitely a peak bloodline of the modern era IMO, true dragon not the weak stuff like Lyra has.
Is there even any food and water in lost legacy? It only says>weapons>armor>ingredients>materials
>>96801895>it's [HEADCANNON]
I think CC's quality suffers greatly from it's connection to xianxia. It would have been a much better cyoa if a completely different approach was taken.
>>96801917It's fundamentally a Xianxia cyoa. Rip that out and you end up with something completely unrecognizable.Make your own CYOA if you're that assblasted about it.
>>96801917Agreed, but there is only so much a redditor can do for originality.
What kind of retard uses the headcanon argument for Choose Your Own Adventures?
>>96801909It has countless treasures within it, at one of them is bound to satisfy your physical needs like food and water.
>>96801930We can always use the golden vessel which must have infinite food and water.
>>96801929my headcanon is true and realyour headcanon is fake and gay>>96801930nuh uh you'd starve
>>96801925Yea it is so tied to it, it's like anon saying he wants a Superman movie that isn't tied to the superhero genre.
>>96801913okay retard, keep coping about your trash ašutomatic blessing you have no control over while the real cultivators are driving a manual
Is picking youthful just for a blessing worth it? In those 12 years, you could have done so much more.
>>96801948In the 39th Realm where it takes millennia to advance, you will wish you took one more blessing.
>>96801925Not assblasted about anything. It's like your autism doesn't permit you to accept that people may have a completely different outlook than you. You could easily remove the stage shittery and the cyoa would become one about having cool powers and travelling between world. The entire cultivation schtick and retarded powerscaling only serves to drag the quality of the cyoa through the mud. Also, the genre is bottom of the barrel trash and you're a stupid faggot for liking it.>>96801926True, I suppose it could be a lot worse considering the circumstances.
>>96801948yes, you probably have some effect that makes you stronger which will counteract youthful's impact on your metaphysics to put you back to a human average, like dharma weapon, void body, or primordial essence, perfect guardian works for a similar reason tooif you have lost legacy then it's especially good, as you can just skip the 6 years you need to go from 12 to 18 inside the 10x time acceleration effect
>>96801838Why? It increases your odds everytime you take risks. Makes you very hard to kill outside overwhelming odds. Has a lot of utility outside with rare materials and "making things go your way"
>>96801948Depends if you have lost legacy or not. Even if you don't I personally think a blessing that an immortal will use forever is worth a few years extra childhood.
>>96801948Depends what you have, the rest of the build determines what you can do in those 12 years. Spending them in a Lost Legacy is not a bad option. You are also just weaker, not useless, you can still cultivate.
>>96801917you just don't like that genre conventions you're unfamiliar with are treated as important by other anons, but it would be the same cyoa if all of them were spelled out explicitly instead
>>96801954Nuh uh. In those 12 years, I could have already left earth and gotten 10 more blessings.
>>96801948Just use your Lost Legacy and cultivate within it until you're 17 or something.
>>96801958someone's cranky
So is perfect guardian endgame or what? They're everything you could want bundled in strong dual cultivation sized package
>>96801964the biggest problem with luck is that it habituates you into making retarded choices, getting you killed one day when it by chance stops or someone suppresses itautomatic transmission versus manual transmission, basically, take control over your own life instead of letting some heavenly script do it for you
>>96801971Bingo
>>96801982it's alright I guessI'd rather just have the power myself though
>>96801982it's a gi, they're all endgame>>96801973why 12 years though
>>96801982Yea but I want to be strong not my waifu
>>96801984Fate already controls your entire life, retard.If you get cocky just because you're lucky, you deserve to die.
>>96801969>>96801968>>96801962>>96801975I don't get the lost legacy argument. You are still losing 12 years, even with lost legacy. You are spending them on the palace. They are still 12 years for you. You could have used them to potentially get something better than the blessing in that time.
>>96801984Take another blessing like mastermind or heart severing to stay grounded.
>>96802001no it doesn't, the entire point of cultivation is defying the heavens, retardimagine bowing to heaven in a context where heaven explicitly despises you and wants you killed, lmao
>>96801989>>96801995Doesn't she massively enhance you anyways (dual cultivation)? I know it says they're always at least one stage over you but even a dharma weapon equalises that... I reckon most will be stronger than their guardians.
>>96801971You are conflating me with someone else, this is the first time I've mentioned my distaste for xianxia specifically. My main problem with it is the endless powerscaling. If stage 10 was the highest you could go, then I would probably have much less of an issue with it.
>>96801948Pure boon. Ammo for lifespan sacrifice techniques.
>>96802007you're not losing anything, you're just spending the 6 years it takes you to get to adulthood on cultivating and auxiliary stuff, the only thing you're not good at yet is fighting, it's not preventing you from doing anything else (and with the right build you're still really good at fighting despite it)why are you acting like it's going to put you into a coma
>>96802015nta but you've been posting that same sperg multiple times, I've seen it word for word. You keep repeating it wanting attention. Don't lie and pretend you haven't.
>>96802007>Something better than the blessing Doubtful. Treasure? Maybe, but immaterial things like talent, bloodlines, and cunning are MUCH harder to aquire.
>>96802012Imagine thinking you can to defy the heavens while ignoring the strongest powerups.
>>96801982Its for virgin minionfags
>>96802024bring a training array or perfect guardian in with you and you will absolutely be really good at fighting
>>96802015everything past stage 10 is extremely vague, you need new methods but you haven't found any for that realm yet, you're going to ascend new stages but you know nothing about them yet, it shouldn't affect your first 10 stages much other than maybe block any dumb plans to burn your foundations for temporary power
>>96802024It says that it slows your cultivation.
>>96802024Yea and in real time it is only about7 months
>>96802007Anon, this is cultivation. You aren't going to be adventuring all the time. There will be years of downtime one way or another. Youthful just predisposes you to taking some downtime early, when you aren't settled yet.
>>96801984I get the part about habituating you into bad decisions but I think its important to survive over long term. You will have risks repeatedly over such long time you live here and eventually something is going to fuck you over especially in combat. This one helps a lot by stacking odds in your favor by a lot. I consider it second best blessing right behind lowly junior which is the most important one considering how many beings there are that can just 1-shot you.
>>96802044just brute force it with spirit stones and condensation arrays retard>>96802050there are better risk mitigators, like seventh sense and lowly junior
>>96802059>condensation arrayIt draws from the area on earth, retard. You are not on earth. It has nothing to draw from.
GODZ OF GVNZ
>>96802059I took all 3
>>96802059>there are better risk mitigators, like seventh sense and lowly juniorI think lowly junior is the best from that and seventh sense is third. Still very strong and I usually take all 3 in my builds.
>>96802029Or maybe two different anons have the same opinion and I don't spend my entire day camping on this thread like your faggot ass. But keep strawmaning my arguments, it doesn't serve your argument at all anyway.>>96802040True, but you still have to deal with fact that the Heavens exist, hate you and are all jacking off at the opportunity to fuck you over. Even if you make the argument that they don't directly interfere, some cultivator can just show up on earth and blast it to hell for shits and giggles.
>>96802049Nuh uh. I am not playing your wuxia novel. I am playing something fun with tons of adventures. You can do nothing for years in your adventure if you want.
>>96802066you just slot the spirit stones into it, lmao>>96802088EXTREME ngmi
>>96802044Until you are an adult. What's the price of those years? What are you actually losing out on? It makes your lifespan longer.
>>96802086>Or maybe two different anons have the same exact post word for word!?Yeah no, with that pile of bullshit you cement yourself as throwing a tantrum.
>>96802094You already have infinite lifespan with all body methods
is Void Body undervalued?
>>96802102It is boring. No one wants to pick it.
>>96802094>>96802044The only thing you're losing is the opportunity to find better stuff than the blessing you get from taking it... except that's an illusion, you can still go out and find blessings afterwards, and have an extra blessing helping you do so, so you're not losing anything at all.Youthful's actual impact is that it happens early when you're supposed to be establishing yourself in the world, and making shit like minotaur's lair more difficult. It does not have any negative impact on your long-term progress outside of that.
>>96802102No, its just not gonna bring someone 10 tiers above you to your level like that one retard thought.
>>96802102Under picked maybe, but I think most anons see it's value
>>96802102>>96802109i picked it, it's great and will only magnify as you grow
>>96802109Which GIs do you think are fun anon?>>96802116>>96802119True and fair
>>96802112Inside lost legacy it is 1 year and 2 months and a half outside.>>96802092>EXTREME ngmiNuh uh. I always win in my head. Sorry that you lose in your own head anon.
>>96802102Perfect guardian is most underrated. It boosts your cultivation and is 1 stage above you and infinitely respawns. You can just sit in your lost legacy and have guardian do everything for you.
>>96802134I don't want a companion of mine to be stronger than me.
>>96802134>>96801982 definitely agrees with you (they're also your perfect partner)
>>96802096You refuse to tackle any of the points I've made, while conflating me with another person you can more easily attack. You think I can't see through your dishonest faggotry? I responded the anon who made an argument with arguments of my own, your strawman/ad homs can devour my dick though.
>>96802139Considering their methods exist to buff yours and the gap is only 1 stage you can reasonably become stronger than your guardian.
The guardian is actually you. It's essentially a split soul. Rake said so.
>>968021491 stage gets wider and wider. From human to superhuman and then from city block to an entire city.
>>96802129you can't win when you don't even try to win anon
>>96802102It is so incredibly broken, I've picked it instead of Dharma Weapon for a Living Forge build. The ability to shit all over luckfags is invaluable.
>WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP MAKING XIANXIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!no.
>>96802158Sure but with for example with a dharma weapon you're already equal
All the Grand Inheritances put you 1 level ahead. Rake said so.
>>96802156>Rake said you don't actually get a waifu. Its just you masturbating with a tulpaRAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>96802139>I don't want a companion of mine to be stronger than me.They are not your companion, they are practically your servant that does whatever you want and cannot betray you
>>96802174But what if they betray you?
>>96802168I said my cyoa is balanced, and therefore, it is.
>>96802134>>96802174>Softie has entered the chat
>>96802134True, you can also boost it with Void Body and if you have Primordial Essence you will be almost as strong as it. Honestly I would just go for Devourer instead of PE because you might find a way to share your traits with the Guardian, since it's literally an extension of (You).
>>96802007Cultivation is a marathon not a sprint.If you're not willing to got out as a kid and can't wait 12 years either you are ngmi as a cultivator.
>>96802176Rake said its impossible
>>96802170Great news, since I already have Akashic Ascension Records I can spend the GI slot on something else.I'm joking I never took the guardian anyway. I personally rate it 6th as far as what I am interested in.
>>96802187I already did. Sorry that you are a jobber that can't sprint a marathon.
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>>96802170that's even better though
>>96802194euro note is overpowered, coins are less convenient and putting it in a bank can be tracked
>>96802194I dont want shitty europoor moneyI want DOLLARS
Some other anon mentioned this, is getting possessed by Iska a good strategy or beneficial in any way? Particularly if you have perfect conduit too.
>>96802199Make your own cyoa, leech
>>968021945 euros in the currency of the closest alien civilization, please
>S TierHeavenly Conqueror FoundationDick Devourer Physique>A TierMentor RingDharma WeaponLost LegacyVoid Body>B TierPerfect GuardianAuxiliary Techniques>C TierKarmic Alignement
>>96802211Oversoul is so ass that you forgot to put it in your list.
>takes a fat shit all over (((fate))) and (((heaven's will)))void body is SSS+ tier
>>96802211switch HCF with VBI think having an extra method is overrated, but I guess it depends on the build. Also, primordial essence is probably S tier too.
>>96802211>unbound casuality not S tierngmi
>>96802209>it's in a bank somewhere 100 light years away>the bankers don't know who's account this is but just shrug>you have no way of ever accessing it or learning about it
>>96802211Why is karmic alignment so consistently rated low and how would you go around balancing it to be a good choice
>>96802229sick
>>96802232The examples it give as to what powers you will get are meh.
Would you refine one million people into a powerup?
>>96802232Personally I think it's just boring. If want to align myself with devas or devils, I can just take primordial essence and literally become one.
>>968021945 euros in bitcoin 15 years ago
>>96802220>Tanks the effect with STANothin personel... kid
>>96802211why are you still talking shit about karmic, it's really good nowlost legacy > auxiliary techniques = heavenly conqueror > oversoul = void = devourer = karmic = guardian = dharma = ring
>>96802246
>>96802232it doesn't need to be changed, it's already as good as void body or dharma weapon right now, anons just didn't read that you don't even need to act in a karmic way to access its power anymore
>>96802203If you're going Akashic Ascension Records it could be useful to have her actually possessing you to help you develop and improve her method, or develop a way to help each other. Wise Elder and Innovative might be better for that. Also there might be a way to engage in Dual Cultivation with her if you have Akashic Ascension Records, where the two of you develop complementary techniques. It probably isn't important to have her possess you though. Though with Perfect Conduit you might be able to act as a filter for her when she is cultivating allowing the two of you to absorb corrupt energy sources together, and doing so would likely be easier if she is possessing you.
>>96802246>Dies in his shitty lost legacy pocket dimension due to lack of oxygen and being stage 1.
>>96802257the palace has air unless you're literally retarded in how you store it
>>96802257>didn't read what it does and is conflating it with the treasurengmi
>>96802257>AIEEEE BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MARATH-ACK
>>96802246Auxiliary techniques is a waste of a GI when you can take Yesod and lock the twink up on your LL. Instead of (You) wasting time making artifacts you can have him do it for you while you cultivate or so more important shit. Also wasting two GI slots on non-combat stuff is just retarded.
>>96802225HCF still has cultivation benefits and peerless technique creation as part of it. VB can probably bump itself up to S tier but it is more strictly defined.>>96802232I don't like how it forces you to act in accordance with established dogmas for power.
>muh marathonif you aren't an immortal venerable in 100 years or less, you should just give up and die
>>96802211>Auxiliary got put all the way in B TierCrafterbros...
>>96802270Only if you plan on punching things for a living. Half of the methods don't even benefit from that.
>>96802274And it is just a bad way to see the cyoa. By that same logic, all choices are meaningless as you could eventually get them all in your infinite life.
Auxiliary is S tier with machine transcendence.
>>96802275It's a solid 3rd option. It would also help if there were examples of high tier stuff for people who don't know about xianxia conventions.
>>96802284Not everyone fantasizes about sitting on a room all day for decades.
>>96802272It doesn't include technique creation anymore (oversoul has it)
I tried to make my own tier list but it's tough. Except for Lost Legacy all of the GIs are really well-balanced now. It's basically Lost Legacy in SSS+ god tier and all of the other ones in S tier.
>>96802272It doesn't. Old HCF got divided into new HCF, peerless blessing, and oversoul.
>>96802300I now realize I was looking at the older version when making my tier list, also why I didn't include Oversoul or the other option...
>>96802295You have the grug method of bashing your head against problems, the mage method of blasting them away from afar, the crafter method of just building shit and not even involving yourself directly, and the social method of having sex and giving out headpats all day and things somehow working out. To you, this is "sitting in a room". You're an idiot.
>>96802291Yea agreed but I actually think it is only A tier with living forge or scrivener
>>96802309>t. jobber and coward
>>96802307your tier list makes way more sense for the old version too, go read the new karmic alignment, seriously
>>96802270Auxiliary Master also gives you alchemy, talismans, arrays, and formations too. Yesod just crafts weapons, armor, and the like. Besides that formations are typically quite important in cultivation stories as they can do all sorts of things, and are the basis of most a lot of dangers one would encounter when looting old ruins and such. Knowing how formations work also lets you do things like break formations or bypass them to loot things. If you want to be a skilled thief or pursue lost treasures, or just attack people in their own territory you need some way of dealing with formations.
>>96802324I am just 10 stages above them. No need to think about the formations of weaklings.
>>96802324>Auxiliary Master also gives you alchemy, talismans, arrays,>Thinks any of that is actually usefulNgmi
>>96802291>>96802310Y'all are sleeping on the fact that Skin-Shedding can incorporate artifacts too now as well.
>>96802336>Giving yourself the Treasure Complication
>>96802336Living forge can do that too
>>96802332You are really going to stagnate yourself doing that. You get next to nothing out of fighting people significantly weaker than you.
>>96802324I can see it's use if your entire build is centered around it. Also, I think things like pills and such are under Yesod's purview. That being said Talismans and Formations do sound really good. But compared to the pure combat options they fall short. Maybe if you go>Guardian, Legacy and AT You can supplement your weakness with the guardian while having all the tools of a non-combat build. I just wouldn't recommend it desu.
>>96802291>>96802310>artifact crafting GI is S tier with the method that only integrates tech, not artifacts>but only A tier with the methods that actually integrate artifactshuh?
>>96802332Picking on the weak is pointless. If someone is 10 stages below you, what could they possible have that is worth your time?>>96802334Having talismans is like a modern soldier having grenades. Situational, but extremely potent. Arrays are how you turn a firebolt into a firestorm. And alchemy is the fastest way to recover power or speed your cultivation along. At least in standard cultivation stories.
>>96802334>thinks alchemy is useless in fucking xianxia where all progress and power literally is just alchemy with extra stepsngmi
>>96802356>>96802355>>96802348This is how losers think btw
Auxiliary techniques is literally being a DnD wizard you idiots. Except your spellbook also grows in stage along with you.
>>96802360Wizards are no match for martials with +25 gear.
>>96802360nevermind it's F tier
>>96802354The new description of auxillary master includes tech and if you are an auxiliary master you could do stuff like enchant your tech. Tech is rare and if you want to get anywhere you will need to build it yourself. On the artifact side a living forge could rely on preexisting artifacts or other crafters.
>>96802354>artifact crafting giread it again>>96802359>stays stage 1 forever because he doesn't like alchemy>dies to a stage 2 earthworm biting off his toe
>>96802360Z tier
>>96802365>>96802372Lmao, you can feel how good it is from all the seethe it's effortlessly gathering!
Talisman nerds on suicidewatch
>>96802369>>96802370>The new description of auxillary master includes techWhat the fuck so Lost Legacy + Auxiliary Master literally takes all difficulty of Machine Transcendence away??? You dont have to learn anything you dont already know and you dont have to go looking for materials
Auxiliary Techniques is SSSS++++ super saiyan tier. It literally makes you one of the best crafters in the entire setting, which is a boon far above anything else you can possibly attain in the CYOA. Just set up shop in the Grand Bazaar and you will have all the old monsters kneeling at your feet, showering you in wealth and cultivation boosting materials.
I don't get it. What's stopping a Living Forge from enchanting their tech and incorporating it into themselves? Wouldn't that turn it into an artifact?
Someone put all the builds in a tierlist for power.
>>96802386They're both extremely good GIs. Easily at the top. Anons just don't value them because they want easy and immediate power I guess?
>>96802390They can't do that because.... they just can't, okay?
>>96802391mine > yoursthere, i think we got all the important ones >>96802390>>96802394nothing is stopping them, other than possibly incompatibility issues that you can solve via perfect conduit
>>96802393HCF bodies both and its not even close
>>96802388Or maybe they will slave collar you and treat you as their personal crafter/fucktoy. This is xianxia, might makes right and nobody will protect you.
>>96802400hcf is shit now, read the new version, the only reason anyone is still taking it is the extra method, otherwise you'd see them take oversoul instead where the good parts of the old hcf were placed
>>96802390The tech side needs to be part of a system to function (power, computers, targeting, etc), that living forge doesn't support by itself.
>>96802404nah.
>>96802164Every GI is broken ,that's the point
>>96802404auxiliary techniques IS might, you just need to drink the permanent empowement potions first, and you don't need to reveal your talent before you do that
>>96802407Dick devourer is still on top
>>96802176That's like asking if your hand would betray you
>>96802419It's in S tier along with all the other GIs except for Lost Legacy.
someone talk me out of incompetent because quite frankly even though it's powerful I don't give a fuck about crafting myself
>>96802404Crafters are the ones who understand how slave collars work and are the ones that make them. You're scenario is "why don't non-crafters just use the power of crafters to beat crafters?"
Devourer is for faggots. You need to consume a man whole (shit, piss, penis, cum and all) to pull it off. You are LITERALLY a shit eater if you pick it. A Dung Eater, if you will
>>96802402Then what's the difference between it and Machine Transcendence?
Social buffs >>>>> all.Merchant's Guile + Market Ticket can bring you into the upper echelons of power on its own.
>>96802426Yesod is a man, so you won't have a crafting bitch unless you gay.
>>96802436I was never taking that bum anyway
>>96802426you don't need to craft shit yourself if you're good at other things, it's not a big deal, i'm taking incompetent on my rogue build because i can just buy and steal shitincompetent makes perfect conduit a bit more important because then you can benefit from the pills made for other people specifically too
>>96802430The text doesn't say that the corpse is male.Why did you assume it was a man?
>>96802436Doesn't yesod specialize in only artifacts? So like only 20% of the point of auxiliary techniques, and not the most important one (alchemy) either?
>>96802444Why would I feel like randomly eating some dickless corpse?
>>96802426I took it, the way I see it, you either take auxiliary methods or take incompetent. Mediocre crafting talent is worthless in Xianxia so if you don't have auxiliary methods you can get an extra blessing.
>>96802412Some more than others.
people don't seem to understand that in Xianxia, luck > resources > talent > anything else
>>96802449nah there's the middle road of taking the extradimensional library and being decent at ityou might also need it to infiltrate through formations others placed etc
>>96802426There is nothing wrong with avoiding crafting if you aren't into it. Forcing yourself to engage with something you don't care for even if it is potentially strong would be far worse than trying to play to your own strengths and interests.
>>96802453Well specifically in CC dedication/hard work > talent
>>96802453it differs on the setting, you're especially overvaluing luck here, and completely forgetting willpower and hard work, not to mention insight which is a big deal in this setting specifically
>>96802436I was planning on being HIS bitch actually
>>96802465Are you ignoring the incredible luck of the starting position in CC?
>>96802465no, in cc it's more like thinky thoughts > luck = talent = hard work
>>96802457See that's the thing about incompetent, it doesn't prevent you from acquiring theoretical knowledge. There is no reason to be a mediocre crafter with the way pills and artifacts work, you want ONLY the best.
>>96802465Show me one example of this ever actually being the case. Anons job to the first young master they come across who has all their GI's + one more.
>>96802446Can someone explain difference between artifacts, talismans and other shit to someone not familiar with xianxia stuff.
>>96802471yes, and he should, since it was traded for what now amounts to talent, with the possible exception of heaven-blessed>>96802474it preents you from using auxiliary knowledge in non-crafting ways, such as infiltrating into formations without wrecking them
>>96802468Insight IS cultivation. Comprehending the Dao, increasing your insight into the universe, is literally the entire point.
>>96802446I think he would be able to make pills, since they ate essentially comsumable artifacts themselves. Things like Arrays, Talismans and Formations are a no-no though. Maybe he can enchanting pre-existing tech, but he probably won't be able to create it himself, at least not without protagonist aura. In fact, people completely forget that protagonist aura can buff the fuck out of him.
>>96802488Read the description of incompetent again.
>>96802487artifacts: magic sword that has constant enchantment, usually powered by itselftalisman: spell scroll or magic wand that gets spent, usually you're the one powering it with your own energyformation: big artifact or talisman, except it takes energy from the world instead of from you, formations can be extremely complex, like you could make the starship enterprise with onealchemy: extremely important, as the benefits of alchemical potions are permanent and usually the foundation of cultivation, which is called "internal alchemy" for a reason, so treat alchemy as the leveling system instead of a temporary buff system
>>96802488>he should, since it was tradedWhy do you think luck is useful, retard?To just "have", as some immaterial thing that doesn't actually affect anything?No nigga, it's so you can get the ultimate old monster inheritance/system/uberhax. Once you have it, who cares.
>>96802498>In fact, people completely forget that protagonist aura can buff the fuck out of him.I didn't in fact I specifically took protag aura to buff him
>>96802487>ArtifactSome kind of weapon, armor, or tool>TalismanMagic scroll, paper, or symbol that can cast a spell>FormationComplicated grid or network of talismans that can do wide-range effects
>>96802506nepo baby thought patterns are a cancer
>>96802505>>96802487there's also array, which is usually an impromptu formation that you make by just plopping down some pre-prepared flags in feng shui patterns
>>96802505Thank you
>>96802431Machine Transcendence is about the crafting and dealing with incorporating incompatible tech into your body. Living Forge is about incorporating artifacts into your artifact body, it doesn't mitigate incompatibilities. If you want to improve your spine with Machine Transcendence, you build a replacement spine and slot it in, job done. If you want to improve your spine with Living Forge you incorporate the materials directly into your spine and refine it into an improved version, but not a cybernetic one with connections to machines and external stuff. On the other end if you want to add a sword to your body, it should be pretty similar between the two, but if you want to replace a part of your body with a cybernetic version Machine Transcendence is the way to go.
>>96802505Nice answer anon.
>>96802471>>96802472>>96802478Obviously talent helps but the cyoa specifically says Insight, which is gained through dedication and hard work, trumps talent. So no resting on your laurels.
I hope you took Iron Will. You don’t want to job to a Soul path cultivator’s genjutsu… do you?
>>96802530Is it over?
>>96802530that's what i meant by thinky thoughts, pay attention
>>96802522Can't you just make high tech based artifacts and absorb them with living forge? Seems to the that living forge has higher utility on high levels because you can turn tech into artifacts but you don't necessary turn artifacts into tech. The compatibility issue is easily solved with perfect conduit, which a living forge should be taking anyway.
>>96802505To add onto that, formations are usually like ritual magic with multiple participants, while arrays are usually more like magic circles. It depends on the story though.
>>96802536Iron will and Titan Ascent, that little soul dweeb can't touch me.
>>96802546It’s not gonna be as good as Machine Transcendance and it’s not gonna meld well with the whole liquid metal thing you get later on, but probably.
>>96802548formations and arrays of worldly energy, artificial energy, and ritualized interactions between cultivarors, are often conflated, which is partially a problem but partially also points out that they ultimately kind of are the same thing
>>96802546>Can't you just make high tech based artifacts and absorb them with living forge?Why couldn't Machine Transcendane do the same thing?Also, did Rake say anything about the wider universe of Earth's dimension? It's not ours, so it's probably closer to just an expanse of empty space right?
>>96802536Yes, I took that and Iska will protect with from that kind of fuckery anyway, she lives inside my head rent-free.
Why shouldn’t I take Heart-Severing Mantra (wrath) and Pseudo Fallen?It’s a free powerup
>>96802544Okay but Insights don't just pop in your head out of nowhere. They come from dedication and hard work. So you basically said "what you get from dedication and hard work is very important, but doing the dedication and hard work to get it isn't important".
>>96802563no, and in the absence of info i'm assuming it's a normal universe, though it's likely that qi has fucked up other stars too, not just the sun
>>96802556Machine Transcendence + Heavenly Celestial Scrolls + Living Forge solves this>>96802564Technically, you're paying her
>>96802571Doesn’t matter how you get there as long as you get there
>>96802571they come from all sorts of places, you can for example suck them out of your followers with the wise elder blessing, even if hcf no longer gives them to you for free they're still not limited to only the hard way
>>96802556I think the liquid metal body means you can turn parts of your body into the shit you absorb. It's never stated what are the limits of what you can absorb though, so I don't know if you can just keep stacking artifacts indefinitely.>>96802563Living Forge can incorporate almost everything from the Treasures section, while Machine Transcendence cannot.
>>96802582>you can for example suck them out of your followers with the wise elder blessingYou're not sucking them dry, you're learning from the act of teaching
>>96802546When I said you could enchant cybernetics I meant you could give it additional properties like enchanting it to resist corrosion or be stronger, not that it becomes a true artifact. Cybernetics need power and are interconnected with the entire system. A living forge could also take machine trancendance if they wanted but it couldn't absorb tech by itself. Also machine trancendance infuses RE into the tech to make it cultivator level. Auxiliary techniques can't do that.
>>96802591no anon, you're sucking them through the penis as a wise elder should
>>96802546Perfect Conduit seems to be more for compatibility with energies, though I guess the way it reads it could let you replace your arm with someone else's. Still though Machine Transcendence is also involved in the crafting aspect, making it so that you could craft whatever cybernetics are on your level. It also provides power to your cybernetic implants, so you could install a robot arm, and you don't need to install a power source.Really the difference between the two is kind of minor.
>>96802584>Living Forge can incorporate almost everything from the Treasures section, while Machine Transcendence cannot.If something is both a treasure and a piece of high-tech, then it stands to reason both could use it without any issue. I am pretty sure Machine Transcendence only takes cybernetics though.
>>96802577Okay then why did you say;>>96802472>no, in cc it's more like thinky thoughts > luck = talent = hard workin response to>>96802465>Well specifically in CC dedication/hard work > talentthen? I just said dedication and hard work is a better source of Insight than just talent. But you disagreed with me.
>>96802596>>96802546look guys, it's not complicated, machine benefits from tech-based artifacts while forge benefits from material-based artifacts, you can then make tech artifacts out of magical materials to get both benefits
>>96802567It is and a bunch of builds have done exactly that. I would throw in Warhound as well.
>>96802567>>96802605heart-severing is for sissies, only take body refining or you gay
Machine Transcendance is the perfect match for Bone Scrivening. It not only gives you ample surface area on which to transcribe spells, it also lets you use technological methods to pack more spells in the same space. Like… a LOT more spells. Writing really small spells is literally the basis for modern technology.Not only that, you could have equippab’e discs or tablets with different spell loadouts on them, which should bypass the strength reset when modifying spells.
>>96802567Should Rake make the drawbacks harder?
>>96802612>Writing really small spells is literally the basis for modern technology.Don't let the Technocracy hear you say that
>>96802613nah, they're fine right now, none of them are really free and most of the really bad ones are solvable, it's a good state for a drawback lineup
>>96802604Yea that's a pretty simple way to explain it
>>96802600>tries to keep up with random young master #28194 from a backwater sect>*goes fucking insane*It’s not lol, did you even read the screenshot you posted?
>>96802619Rake does drawbacks pretty well
>>96802567You did take Iron Will too, right anon? Just to make sure you don't kill your own teammates in a fit of tardrage.
The real question is at what stage a Cataclysmic Cultivation character could defeat a Spirit Conscript character who's learned techniques up to Legend rank in multiple Affinities.
>>96802626Rake said that Will counts as an emotion so obviously I took it
>>96802626You can just solve pesudeo-fallen with lost legacy and the market and i guess third eye and decentralized organs and salubrious tonic to be safe but if you have all that you get the benefits of pseudo-fallen in exchange for a few hours of surgery you can do yourself
>>96802633Like 2 or 3, tops.
>>96799172>MethodsVerdant Heartwood SheathesHeavenly Celestial Scrolls>BlessingsJade BeautyThird EyeIron WillMutated DantiansCommunication ExpertMastermindRight to Rule>TreasuresAbandoned BeastScrying MirrorsEssence FurnaceExtradimensional LibrarySpliced Tree>Grand InheritancesAuxiliary MasterLost LegacyOversoul>CompanionsLyra, The WyrmHirak, The Beast>EventsCorpse KingCorrupted ZoneThe CannibalThe HordeStepford Village>DrawbacksFated Nemesis (Cassian, The Unbreakable)IncursionMinotaur's LairCourting DeathIt's been over a month since I last posted anything let alone made a build. I like this cyoa update, very good. I went for a sort of nonstandard cultivator build, focused on energy gathering and the life/spirit powers, alongside auxiliary powers I have a versatile toolbox, and the ability to take on, survive, fix, and learn basically whatever I want as well as basically all of the charisma perks. Cassian is the biggest problem, but I have more than enough tools and the ability to hit his spirit directly, so I can bypass his resistance for the most part. Hopefully he wont be too bad to deal with.
>>96802633Depending on the build, none. Spirit Conscript has time hax that is impossible in CC.
>>96802613I like that most of them are actually solvable. Drawbacks don't HAVE to be these horrid forever problems. None of them are so easy that they are truly free either (only coomer CYOAs seem to have drawbacks that easy)
>>96802633>>968026363 or sothe problem spirit conscript has is it isn't cultivation, they just have random techniques but never go up in cultivation realm
Why are treefags so fruity?I’m tempted to make a Verdant Heartwood Sheaves build just to break the trend
>>96802597My original point is that you can turn a piece of tech into an artifact through enchanting, but you cannot turn a artifact into a piece of tech. That simple fact makes Living Forge the better option.
>>96802639it's possible to defend against anything in cc>>96802645forever problems are actually really bad for the quality of a cyoa as a whole and i don't get why people use them
>>96802648It's a high tier wuxia, so it's ultimately going to have similar fundamentals.
>>96802639Unbound Causality...
>>96802639*unbinds your causality**is universal tier in your path*
>>96802623Yes I did read. Did you? Because it clearly says it hard, but doable.
>>96802636>>96802648Rank 3 is barely beyond human and a SC character can become a giant lighting godzilla unkillable with physical attacks that can stop time, you're underselling it hard.
>>96802650"Enchanting" a piece of tech doesn't make it a treasure, it just makes it an enchanted piece of tech>>96802649You know why...
>>96802662that's the basline stat bonus, you're forgetting your methods are also giving you tons of techniques in cccompare rank 3 to the passive benefits of g3
>>96802639What time hax does SC have that Eternal Frost doesn't?
>>96802649I have noticed that too lol. Might have to make that dick devourer build that takes Sheaves, Swarm, an Venoms that I have been thinking about, to buck the trend.
>>96802649Fruit grows on trees stupid
What method synergizes best with akashic ascension?
>>96802678heart severing to get both thoughts and emotions in line
>>96802668Passive benefits are irrelevant here, a SC character at Legend status is going to be able to just switch on shit like Encompassing World Avatar and Divine War Form.
>>96802612It also synergizes well with Living Forge and Auxiliary Techniques. In fact, Living Forge +AT+ LL is a match mage in heaven, if you add Transcribe to the mix.
>>96802661>this is the 50th all nighter in a row without progress on my cultivation bottleneck. I-I just have to keep working hard>AIIIIEEEEE MY MIND IS BREAKINGvs>Oh shit another old monster inheritance? Three heavenly asspull pills? Eh, the one last week had more jade beautiesWhich would you rather do
>>96802684Jobs to normal gun
>>96802684yeah, and the body temperer is going to be equivalent to a bunch of core g2 techniques as a passive and also have a bunch of legendary technique analogues through their methods and grand inheritances like void body
>>96802678IMO It's one of the best methods by itself but it pays for it by being less synergistic overall
>>96802678Transcribe to create entire spell sequencer tulpas.
>>96802690>He thinks he can shoot sunlight or lightning
>>96802638Our sovereign... has returned...
>>96802688Kairos explicitly has bad foundations and manages to become skilled despite that
>>96802638Softie...
>>96802638>Blessing: Jade Beauty>Fated Nemesis: CassianWhat is it about this combination that appeals to so many fruitbaskets?
>>96802678Pairing it with a Body Refining Method so you are strong both mind a body for when you move onto more advanced Methods (I personally like Skin-Shedding Scripture) is a good one. And/or Heavenly Celestial Scrolls for more weird bullshit attacks.
>>96802698You're right>Jobs to US military
>>96802678If you want to be a cyborg army that is everywhere Machine Transcendence. Those two together are the best at making clones. If you want to become the underlying fabric of reality, Shadow-Spirit, but that probably also requires Tempestuous Rifts, and/or an appropriate Elemental Root. Writhing Swarm is another that would go really well in the be everywhere do everything. I think there is also an argument to be made for Verdant Heartwood, but I think like with Shadow Spirit it might require something else to really unlock the full power of the combination.
>>96802715Tulpas that punch souls!!
>>96802713He's just a good nemesis, not crazy hard to fight, easy to find fault with, I don't know what you want.
>>96802717I think people forget Machine manual is supposed to be a body-refining method
>>96802713Jade Beauty is really nice to have and has obvious reasons to be popular. Cassian as a Nemesis is pretty simple and straightforward, you know exactly what you are getting into with him.
>>96802724Sure...Why have threads been more active lately? We hit 1k+ a while ago
>>96802702Ok, and? Good foundations = auto win. Hard work = maybe you can work really hard and achieve what other people get for free. Maybe. No guarantees. Also if they decide to put in a little work too then you’re fucked.It’s a giant pile of dogshit compared to luck and talent.Earth characters are bottom of the barrel anyways
>>96802638You need at least one more drawback
>>96802731>nooooooo, he will just learn to punch ghosts if you turn into a ghost! and he'll learn to punch teleportations if you teleport away! and he'll learn to punch artifacts into being if he needs them! and he'll just rape the incursion dragon if you try to hide behind it! it's impossible to fight a nemesis!
>>96802727Probably because it comes of more as body replacing. The thematic aspects are quite different from the other body refining methods. Same thing with Shadow Spirit, it's technically body refining, but I don't think anyone treats it like they do the other body refining methods.
>>96802737Unironically it is shit posters. Anons are taking the bait but admittedly they give good smack downs.
>>96802663That doesn't make any sense, what defines an artifact then? Artifacts seem to be essentially enchanted objects, if you can do that do a piece of tech then it stands to reasons that a living forge can incorporate it. The anon who spoke about power sources and a more wholistic sum of the part situation with MT made more sense. But even those disadvantages can be superseded with enough creativity. The main advantage of MT is that your RE boosts your cybernetics and you also know how to build more.
>>96802742Most of the aliens seem to be born with evolved advantages that let them cultivate safely/comprehend specific daos better, and this is explicitly described as a crutch.
>>96802749even shadow spirit still improves your body beyond the basic stage stuff as it's still body refining
>>96802688This isn't a discussion about what is preferable. It's about what gives better results. Raw talent or putting in the work to get better. Also, nepotism lottery isn't talent, that's just luck which as a separate factor. I'm only discussing talent vs hard work and dedication. And you keep dodging the issue.
methods lead into greater methods based on the same line of thinking
>>96802737I don't know, this is the first time i've looked here in over a month since I started university.>>96802745Why
>>96802753if you're trying to incorporate an artifact tech object with a method that only concerns tech and not aratifacts, then you'd probably need to do a side project to keep the artifact benefits, made easier by perfect conduit
>>96802748Are you mindbroken by past arguments or something? I said nothing about that with him.
>>96802765>I said nothing about that with him.the fuck are you talking about? are you experiencing flashbacks yourself?
>>96802753i'd define a treasure as something made with mystical materials or method. also, its stated treasures can't be easily mass-produced, so I'm pretty sure its reasonable to think they follow the same rules as arrays do, being hand-crafted and being finicky and esoteric to create due to how RE works.
>>96802723Another combo is using a spirit attack that stills the mind leaving it wide open for an attack.
>>96802759NTA but you need both, someone with talent can't be totally lazy, but I would say even 25% effort on someone with talent is equivalent to someone going 110% effort without talent.
>>96802759Nowhere in that paragraph does it say anything about hard work or dedication being better than talent. You made that the fuck up.Marie Su takes a fat shit all over Kairos while actively avoiding using her luck to its full extent.
>>96800218finished writefagging my second build, but waiting until next thread because it too is gonna take several posts to fully send
>>96802781>Marie Su takes a fat shit all over Kairosh-hot
>>96802724>>96802731It simply confounds me that 90% of Jade Beauty builds keep grabbing the worst possible nemesis to have in their situation. He's freakishly strong and durable, practicing a technique that amplifies his strength and durability to unnatural levels, and Fated Nemesis explicitly buffs him beyond where he's already at. Everyone assumes that they're never going to fall into his hands, but why risk it when either of the aliens or any of the +5 mentally ill women are there?
>>968027902 cultivators 1 pill
>>96802792is it really the worst? is a red flag the worst thing to wave at a bull?
>>96802780Both is obviously better but is previously mentioned (>>96802530) the cyoa says some one with no talent can absolutely try hard enough to surpass someone with talent in the CC setting.
I need to make an EVIL build.
>>96802792He comes off as a macho bully, so the femboys want to beat him up. I agree it's not smart.
>>96802796not if the talented guy is also trying hard, or else by definition talent wouldn't exist
Most of the issues in this general are caused by esl apes and brainrotted zoomies that have negative reading comprehension.
>>96802798just take devourer and you're doneyou can also be a good devourer more easily now that you have the hunting grounds btw
>>96802803>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96785747Talent in this sense probably just means having an easier time processing.
>hunting groundsinfinite robot kill chamber
>>96802810i don't see how that would change anything
>>96802800No they obviously want him to rape them. Why are we pretending that something so obvious isn't true.
>>96802818Why did everyone decide he was a rapist?
>>96802796You are thinking of it as too much of a binary. Yea hard work can win out but if I had to say which is better a mote of talent or a mote of hard work, I would choose talent. Heavenly Conqueror Foundation is a grand inheritance (one that was nerfed for being too strong) while Iron Will is just a blessing.
>>96802818You have an infinite sex simulation to waste your time and hromones on already. You don't need to fuck your nemesis.>>96802822It is a mystery.
Cassian is just what anons and xianxia protagonists would realistically look like to outsiders
>>96802795Are you confident that you'll never once stumble in a centuries-spanning bullfighting ring?>>96802800That's another factor. Cassian is the most brazen, uncouth, and vulgar companion, and explicitly believes he's beyond consequences. That attitude will have made him myriad enemies, and yet, he hasn't once had any problems from it. As he doesn't care about stealth or connections, that implies he just has so much brute retard physical power he's been idly roving the mutant/zombie/raider countryside with impunity. Buffing him is dangerous, but buffing him while baiting his lust is outright reckless.
>>96802834>centuriesskill issue
>>96802822It says he is hedonistic and using his power to get what he wants.
>>96802781It's a Cultivator cyoa. You have to Cultivate to get Insight. Cultivation is hard work and dedication.
>>96802834>Are you confident that you'll never once stumble in a centuries-spanning bullfighting ring?He has just as much opportunity to stumble. Probably crashing through walls and falling down wells in the bullfighting analogy.
>>96802781>>96802841Hell it's even compared to training a muscle on the first page.
>>96802792If you fall into his hands, you've already lost to the point that many of the others would have already killed you though? You're looking to make a total loss, not quite as horrible, rather than trying to figure out how to avoid losing in the first place. His motivations and abilities are clear and easy to plan around.>>96802834Use disguises, like with Power Concealer then. That's part of why I have that treasure in my build, I am not showing up in public with my natural appearance because, well for one thing it seems silly to, and for another Doomsayer.
>>96802828There is no other explanation for picking jade beauty with Cassian as nemesis.
>>96802807Devourer is a little too easy, I'm leaning more esoteric.
>>96802841Nice headcanon.>>96802851>with my superior hard work, I am sure to win
>>96802856I think jade beauty isn't an important consideration. It falls down to whether you're suited to countering him. Since he has all the advantage in retard strength, you're either matched 1:1 in retard strength against him, or you have the advantage in other contexts against him. That's it. Jade beauty doesn't really matter.
Not gonna lie I would hunt at least half of you down to refine into cultivation materials.
>>96802865>cc pvp>everyone takes devourer and starts hunting everyone else>that one guy who realizes how retarded anons are just makes a trap to collect them all and wins
>>96802865I didn't even take the valuable drawback.
>>96802865You are courting death.
>>96802774Even under such constraints you can still make a tech based artifact.
>>96802678Which ever you think works best anon, just find and idea you want to do and work with it, the only limit is what you think could work together.What is it with people asking for opinions about the meta of the "cyoa" as if it were a thing?
>>96802849You never saw Lane Frost? Stumbling bulls are at their most dangerous, anon.>>96802854>If you fall into his hands, you've already lost to the point that many of the others would have already killed you though? That is true.>You're looking to make a total loss, not quite as horrible, rather than trying to figure out how to avoid losing in the first place. But... At the cost of your dignity? When any other nemesis is available? I don't doubt that he's manageable, but taking him in that context is surreal.>His motivations and abilities are clear and easy to plan around.Most companions have straightforward motives, but he's the only one at risk of deteriorating into rapine and plunder if left to his own devices.>Use disguises, like with Power Concealer then.Very possible, but fate loves disrupting disguises via coincidences.
>>96802803Like I said, both is better. But if you only have one or the other the CYOA clearly states the one that actually puts in the work to gain Insight wins.>>96802827I mean getting things easily is obviously preferable. Might point was only about which one wins in the end, a try hard no talent or a lazy prodigy. The cyoa indicates the try hard. But again, both is better.
>>96802886That’s not what that line says, esl kun.
>>96802860>Nice headcanon.You didn't really read the cyoa or know much about cultivation in general do you?
>>96802883Build discussion is fun and anons have different perspectives. I changed one of my treasures to the training array as a result of the Lost Legacy NEET discussion for example. Now admittedly some of this pedantic rules lawyering is excessive.
>>96802890sanjeet…
>>96802889I read it, it does.
>>96802688>bottleneckYou don't need talent to get through that. Just take an expensive pill from lost legacy or the market.
>>96802886Zero effort is a zero multiplier. No one disputes that and a mountain of dead young masters attest to it but overall talent is still more valuable.
>>96802895I see. Is the line in the room with us now?
Damn, that's a lot of builds. Here's hoping discussion lasts until the next big thing, like OR did.
>>96802918It devolved into shitposting before the end of the first 2.0 thread
>>96802935It always devolves into shitposting, such is the of way of things.
>>96802885He isn't just straightforward in motivation though, he is also straightforward in approach. I am not, I deal in illusions, traps, and tricks. Most of the companions are those that I can't fight directly anyway, so I picked the one where there is no point in trying. My goal isn't to beat him at his game but to change the game, or escape. I do see the option of picking say, Alva, and then trying to win through dialog eventually. However I don't care for the fact that fate will force misunderstandings upon us, as that seems far more annoying to me than burly muscle man trying to fuck me only to fuck an illusion of me.>fate loves disrupting disguises via coincidences.That's the joy of disguises though, even if one gets ruined you can use another. The loss is temporary and minor.>At the cost of your dignity?Ah, I don't have any. I don't intend to become his toy, but I have no dignity to lose. I'm quite willing to make a near perfect facsimile of myself in the form of a doll and let him have it, and the bomb inside that is just there to annoy him.
What's the worst combination of drawbacks?
>taking nemesisTrap option. Bad end.
>>96802961Valuable and Indebted seems like one of those no-brainers.
>anon is gonna make a fuckdoll based on his shape and let Cassian fuck itYeaaaah, you guys are fags.
>>96802962only for conflict-averse sissies who can't even win against an equal when they know what the opponent's strengths are and are still deciding what their own strengths will be
>>96802970I wonder, will he record the sensations to review later?
>>96802962It's a free companion if you're not a jobber or pick one of the clearly evil companions, which are actually few.
>>96802980What if I’m evil though
>>96802953I suppose I see your point of view, even if your perspective is unfathomable to me.
>>96802984raped by cassian
>>96802763>WhyThe first one isn't optional and the one after give you stuff, so you need 5 total for 2 more GI.
>>96802970As I said, I have no dignity.>>96802973There is no value to setting up any transmitter or recording.
>>96802993>t. didn't take Merchant's Guile
>>96802991Hmmm god damnit, I guess just deviated form for horns or something. I'm honestly not sure about this build still, this cyoa is hard for me to decide stuff on.
>getting your simulacrum murder-raped by cassian, recording its point of view and all its sensations, and then selling the recording to sissies on the marketgenius
>>96802961Saving face is a death sentence
>>96803001treating everything as a death sentence is a death sentence
>>96802961Not sure the worst one but there are several very bad ones.>Minotaur's Lair + Youthful and/or Frog In A Well>Saving Face + Courting Death, Doomsayer and/or Indebted>Incursion + Valuable and/or Finger-Licking Good
>>96802994You're right, I didn't. Nor do I want to be in the market of selling Cassian rape porn from the victim's pov. I'm sure there is a market for that, but it seems annoying. I'd rather make other stuff.
>>96803003I don't treat everything as a death sentence, just that particular drawback (which is hilarious as most characters in Xianxia seem to be suffering from it)
>>96802961Taking all of them except Lonely.
Heavenly Conqueror Foundation or Oversoul?
>>96803016yeah but they don't have it as an external effect, so you have to wonder if you're going to succumb to acting that way anyway regardless>>96803024hcf wins narrowly
>>968030243rd method
>>96803024Do you want a wider array of tools or higher quality tools? Personally I want higher quality tools, so I pick Oversoul.
>>96803029I am pretty sure it is due to Chinese ideas of seniority. An actual old monster if they were real would have inevitably learned to never underestimate people and make enemies for no reason.
>>96803024Oversoul is much better than hcf
>>96803046it gives better external effects on paper, but they aren't more valuable than a whole method
>>96803044That's just the starting bonus though. In a thousand years, you would have developed all the skills of oversoul on your own anyway.
Lost Legacy or Void Body?
>>96803070But with Oversoul in a thousand years you'll still be developing better techniques. Even if you eventually catch up to the cultivation of the second soul, you'll still have the advantage of having a second soul supporting your techniques and abilities. Besides that you'll have been using more complex techniques giving you are wider foundation to develop further techniques from. The quality of your techniques should always be better if you have Oversoul.>>96803089Wildly different to the point that it depends entirely on one's intention.
>>96803089lost legacy sweeps everything else when you realize it gives you an extradimensional bunker you can just jump into at any time, it has some of the greatest strategic benefits AND lets you retreat from any fight
>>96798257Prolly the Radiant for Cataclysmic Cultivation
>>96798257like, yesterday my dude
>>96798551Ah yes, the highest point of powerscaling: threatening the literal Death of the Author
>>96803089The early game advantage LL gives is so absurd that not taking it is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot, repeatedly. VB is one of the best combat based GI you can possibly have though.
>>96798264>>96798240why are you guys comparing garbage to garbage
>>96803105>AND lets you retreat from any fightIt's presumably not instant or easy enough to just jump into the dimension. If you run away first though, then yeah.
>>96803182presumably baed on what, because in all the stories i've read it's basically instant teleportation, one moment you're there and then you're gone
>>96803188based on the fact that would be retarded
>>96803197it's how it works in xianxia stories, hell even basic bitch storage rings work that fast, and this is infinitely stronger
>need Lost Legacy for infinite materials and wealth for raising my cyborg armada>but need Oversoul to adapt Machine Transcendence for the higher realmsFuck bros, which one do I take?
>>96803223you can make up for materials with market and you can make up for method and technique creation with innovativethe other parts of those two are more difficult to make up for, personally i think the pocket world from lost legacy is just too good to not take in any build
>>96803223just take two more complications if they're both that important
>>96803247you know you can only have three grand inheritances right
>>96803247Heavenly Conqueror Foundation, Auxiliary Master, and one final slot for either Lost Legacy or Oversoul
>>96803254Only two GI's were mentioned in the post and it is not referencing any other post, so on its own we can only assume those are the only two he's looking at>>96803262in that case, lost legacy as that's a unique effect whereas the knowledge gained from oversoul may be more esoteric, but still attainable through time and experimentation
>>96803272no, the basic assumption would be that the two are competing for the same slot, not for the only slot
Will this one reach 1k?
>>96803335Maybe, we've got 2 pages left
>>96803345
>>96799172How do the Methods compare to Heavenly Kitchen Realm and KtH's?
>>96803359Fated Shot alone clears all of them
>>96803335trigger a conversation about something in the cyoa and maybe it will>>96803367tfw i just made a build that definitely uses guns but i still didn't take fated shot
>>96803049Yes it is, oversoul is just better.
What's ultimately better for your cultivation, going at it alone or establishing a sect/clan/empire to assist you? I mean, think about it. Even at RE-10 there's only so much ground you can cover alone, so many opportunities on a single world that you will have access to. Wouldn't it be better to establish an organization of sorts that can sniff for resources and opportunities across a far greater area than you could on your own?
>>96803428well with effects like wise elder it's obviously better to make a sectif you ignore all that then it kind of depends on if you think the time invested will be worth it
>>96802638Sissy Sovereign...
>>96803428Having an extra pair of hands is always helpful, but usually unneeded if your build can already acquire what you need. Right To Rule or Wise Elder is also a must-have if you don't want any potential betrayals and subpar subordinates.
>>96803428Depends on your personality. I would rather just spread my Tulpa out. Though I did take Wise Elder so I will certainly seek to have disciples, but I'm not interested in building a sect. Mainly because there is a lot of management that I wouldn't want to bother with.>>96803518Mastermind could also prevent betrayals. With it you can also go on the demonic cultivator path of stripping power from those that don't progress fast enough to take for yourself.
>>96803545>Mainly because there is a lot of management that I wouldn't want to bother with.you don't need to be sect leader, you can just be the elder in charge of talents and make someone else the leader
>>96799719The pillar of masculine virtue.
>>96803610The work in creating the sect in the first place would be too annoying, and I'm not joining someone else's sect. Besides that I'm not that interested in being part of a sect in the first place. I mainly took Wise Elder because it would combine well with Mastermind in finding people that could be convinced to trade their talents away. Having a few disciples doesn't sound terrible, but it's not what I'm really after.
>>96803641i mean you can also delegate the administrative work from the start, the point to you is spotting and teaching talented young cultivators, you could be doing only that as long as you find someone else to bother with the other details, it's not like there'd be a lack of interest in learning from you once you prove you can do it well
>>96803686>as long as you find someone else to bother with the other detailsI don't want to bother finding someone to do that for me, nor do I want to work out an organizational structure for them to implement. That's just the largest annoyance with creating a sect, there are several other aspects that I don't care for. I took Lonely and consider it wholly positive. As for finding talents I can do that myself with my Tulpa, likely better than having a sect try to find them for me.
>>96803720bruh you just get people you trust, shrug when eventually one of them asks if you want it done, and they do it on their ownyou're way overestimating how involved you need to be, it's not an exercise in micromanagement
>>96803757I stopped caring at step 0. I don't see a reason in bothering to start.
>>96803784well then there's no point in having wise elder either, since you won't ever benefit from it
>>96803792As I said above, I took it because it would combine well with Mastermind. Besides that I can have students without having a sect. Having a sect is the part that seems pointless. I can find talents with my Tulpa, and attach a Tulpa to them or to some item I give them to teach them. There is no need to be part of some organization for this.
>>96803792You can use wise elder on companions. That combined with protagonist aura might be quite advantageous to have. That being said I've made a build that didn't have it because I couldn't care too much for it. Protagonist Aura already gives enough so that your bros won't be left behind and become obsolete.
>>96803820i don't really get how you differentiate between students and sect, ultimately a sect is just a bunch of students and your tulpa scheme is an organization already>>96803829i also have it in one of my three current builds so i easily agree it's good and something you should do if you're planning on engaging with a lot of people
>>96803858A sect would be a unified group. I have no intention of connecting my students together, or getting particularly involved in their lives. I'd just be using a Tulpa to train them in one of my methods, and keep our interactions to a minimum. I don't think they would be bothering to seek out more from me either with the Lonely complication our contact should remain quite limited. If a random assortment of people having learned the same method from me but with no other contact with me or one another is a sect, I guess I would be making one.
>>96803919i don't know man, this seems like some kind of self-defeating autism to me, you aren't even letting your students know about each other even though they'd be immensely faster in cultivation and likelier to survive by working together?
>>96803919NTA but I don't think giving away your method for free to a bunch of random retards is good idea. Mastermind would negate the drawbacks though, you just bind them in a contract that wouldn't allow them to act agaisnt. That being said, having your methods be widely known is most certainly not a good thing.
>>96799172I wonder if the classic "May I have your attention?" and if they say "Yes." then BAM they have ADD trick works with Mastermind.
>>96803223You take Living Forge and collect artifacts in the higher realms.
>>96804004it's not like it's unique to you, all of dima has it as an option, they might be the best they have but they're there
>>96804004I would let them know I have other students, and I might teach them some way to recognize each other. However I would rather any connections remain loose at most. I would likely separate my students into two groups though. Those that I am teaching as actual inheritors of my methods, or variations I develop thereof, and those that I am teaching because they made a costly deal with me to grant them power. That second group will be made up of people who aren't likely to live long, but have something to accomplish, and the first group are only going to be those that prioritize secrecy and independence. This may be a silly way of going about things, but it's also just about the lowest thing down on my priority list.>>96804013I would be using Mastermind to bind them to secrecy, and my intention would be to reshape the methods a bit to tailor them to each student. I will be using them to explore the breadth of my methods while they will be taught to seek the depths of specific applications.
>>96802742>Good foundations = auto win.Uh no, you still have to put in some effort no matter how good your talent. A sports car standing still is going to lose the race to a bicycle.
>>96804100a loose sect is still a sectthe two groups you mention are literally direct disciples versus regular sect disciples btw, it's very common in xianxia
>>96804109If a loose sect forms from the first group fine, but I won't be trying to make it happen, and will likely be teaching them in ways to make it less likely. The second group would absolutely not be considered part of a sect in the way I would be treating them. I will be making clear deals with them where when the accomplish whatever they are after, I collect everything. Including all of their specific memories of me and what I taught them, and they will be left powerless. I will only be making these deals with people that are willing to throw their lives away.
>>96804139do you have the social ability to talk them into something that retarded though
>>96804166I did take Communication Expert and Deceitful Trickster. However the goal is to find people who will throw their lives away for revenge or something in the first place. Or other people who are fully in on seeking to accomplish just one thing before they give up their cultivation and return to being a normal human. While I don't have the best methods for a lot of possible motivations, I should have appropriate methods for people seeking revenge as an assassin. I might not have many takers, but that's fine too.
>>96804183i don't really get why you're wasting most of your effort on it either, seeing how earth humanity is fucked and needs all the cultivators it can get
>>96804190I don't see how throwing a Tulpa at the occasional person is wasting most of my effort on something. As I said this is just about the lowest thing down on my priority list. It's also something that I can't reasonably start doing until I've progressed pretty far. It's a potential side project in the future. Wise Elder was literally the last thing I added to my build, I have vague intentions with it that nothing else is built around having it.
>>96804229i don't know man, if perpetuating parasitic late stage capitalism while the world burns around you is your idea of a fun fantasy you do you
>parasitic late stage capitalismIt's time to return from whence you came.
>>96804249don't use it, but project all you want mister goldberg
>>96804235You make it sound like I'm trying to find every possible cultivator out there and steal all their power. As where if I come across people who are already going to throw their lives away at something, I'm going to give them the chance to accomplish what they are after and then live a normal life afterwards. If I don't find anyone in such a situation, that's fine. Also this isn't me empowering people for them to go cause trouble, if someone is seeking to kill some faction leader because they hate that faction I'm out, if it's someone seeking revenge on the bandits that slaughtered their family I'll make an offer. That offer might instead involve me taking out the bandits and no teaching.
>>96804265no, i'm making it sound like you're one of those restaurants that deliberately destroys food rather than selling it at a discount or allowing a charity to come pick it up, except you're also doing that in the middle of a wave of starvation
>>96804276Still quite a stretch. People are under no obligation to support every random suicidal person they find and turn them into productive members of society. I'm just giving them a chance to accomplish what they want without dying. Besides that cultivators are not superheros out to save the world.
>>96804298it's not about the random suicidals, it's about humanity as a whole going through an extinction event and needing every cultivator it can get instead of wasting them gainlessly on some dipshit's paranoia
>>96803359>KtH's's what? It has no techniques lol.
>>96804352my build folder for kth mentions way more techniques than my build folder for cc though
>>96804317So you're complaining that I'd be teaching cultivation to people, that I wouldn't be doing otherwise, and then not helping society with them? These are also people who would otherwise go get themselves killed, and you're saying that I have to make them into superheros rather than normal living people. This is also entirely based on a maybe I would if I didn't have other stuff to do.
>>96804370no, i'm just weirded out by how you remove their memories in the end so they go back to being useless for no reason, it's a complete waste for no gain
>>96804235Very low quality post
>>96804376you say that, but i bet you're also seething about how all the products sold to you are being enshittified as we speak
>REEEEEEE HE CRITICIZED LE CAPITALISM! GET HIM!Americans are still suffering from cold war mental conditioning I see. Very good golems.
>NOOOOO YOU NEED PLAY THE WAY I WANT YOU TOKwab
>>96804396it's gotten worse if anything, the propaganda is going strong, profit margins demand it
>>96804382>>96804396Samefag
>>96804407swing and miss
>>96804375The point wasn't taking their memories, so much as taking their cultivation itself. What's the point of leaving their memories of cultivating when the price of my services was their talent in cultivation? I would probably be using Mastermind to transfer what I can of their cultivation to the next person too. Really depends on how much can be transferred around with Mastermind and what all it means by, "esoteric or immaterial commodities".
You faggots can debate your homosexual political opinions on >>>/pol/
>>96804417yes, that makes it worse, you take their memories, with which they could have done something good, for no reason at all
>>96804407True
>>96804419>>96804435I know you want to get le ebin 1000 replies, but that's no reason to shitpost.
>>96804396>AmericansIt's 4AM in america bro.....
>>96804439yes, and?
>>96804439Doesn't america have like 6 different STs?
>>96803428depends, are you stupid? >>96800378
>>96804437You're quoting me instead of the fags bringing up politics for no good reason?Intriguing.
>>96804420What good could they have done with those memories? I'm serious, what value would the memories specific to me and what I taught have in benefiting the world? At most they could convey to others my cultivation methods. Which could be spread around by writing about them. Are you arguing I should be giving out as many copies of my methods as possible to the world or something? Because that's all those memories would be at that point. I'm also not taking their general knowledge about things, as I said I'm taking their specific memories of me and what I taught them. They will have some vague understanding of things left.
>>96804466Believe it or not, seething about shiptosting is also shitposting.
>>96804469they could have recultivated more slowly than before or taught someone else with more talent than they haveyou're just destroying for no reason
>>96804471What about seething about the seething about shitposting? Is that shitposting too?
>>96804484Yes.
>>96803345>LOCATION: northern mountainscentral and east are a bit too boring to my taste, and I like the cold more than the desert>OCCUPATION: wuxianhmmm, I wonder whether I want to start as the unwashed common bandit or someone trained in martial arts from birth with the backing of a clan sect... tough decisions >WEAPON: swordsword>MARTIAL STYLE: war god of thunder and storms artthis is my original OC Thunder McKing, he has this super cool martial art that only two other people have in the whole world so that makes me the strongest and stuff>LOVE INTEREST: priestess of the demonic cultif evil why hot>FATE: rise of the dark heavensbecause taking war in the central plains would be a trap considering I'm falling for their schemevery good visuals, but the content itself feels half-assed and empty
>>96804466the capitalism comment was part of an actual cyoa build discussion, sorry if you didn't like it
>>96804475>they could have recultivated more slowly than beforeWith the barest minimum of talent that would be left after whatever amount Mastermind can take? Also I'm fine sending someone who would take suicidal actions after a single target. I'm not interested in just setting someone like that loose in the world with superpowers. This is a plan that only involves mentally unstable people, particularly those who are violently so. I'm not the sort who is even reasonably capable of ensuring such people could act reasonably with those powers once they are out of my supervision.>taught someone else with more talent than they haveSo you are saying I should be giving out as many copies of my methods as possible. I doubt you are going to find many who would do that.
>>96804512>With the barest minimum of talent that would be left after whatever amount Mastermind can take?yes? cultivation here is insight, talent just makes gaining it easier>This is a plan that only involves mentally unstable peopleyes, the best one to take advantage of for your own purposes>So you are saying I should be giving out as many copies of my methods as possible.earlier you said that you give them deficient methods, and you also ignored the part where the methods you started with are already out in the world anyway, they are part of dima's catalog, the only reason they're better for you is unique to you and can't be taught
All the jobbing anons taking Cassian as fated nemesis so that they have to put massive amount of resources into making a doll that resembles them and can record sensations to sell it on grand bazar, Meanwhile I have my perfect guardian rape me for free and record it free of charge.
>>96804543i think that was just one guy, and if he has an illusion technique it's not costing him muchalso i just have sex with the training array while you wasted your grand inheritance on a waifu
>>96804235>>96804276This is such a dishonest analogy, you colossal faggot. Not turning random people into mass murder-rapists isn't le heckin ebil.
>>96804528>yes, the best one to take advantage of for your own purposesIt's free real estate. More seriously though I just like the scenes in xianxia where someone is going to throw their life away for revenge or whatever and they get some supernatural support that functions to enact karma on someone.Also we got the thread past 1000 so I'm satisfied with this bizarre tangent, on a what if on my build that I don't care about.
>>96804554face it anon, the shit you're doing is so evil that even the absolute psychopaths called orthodox cultivators in xianxia would call it demonic cultivation and race to exterminate you for it>>96804553how appropriate that you'd post black magic while supporting this, was that on purpose?
>>96804505Yes, and the shitposting about zoophilia a few threads ago is also tangentially related to the cyoa, what's your point? You can shitpost about all kinds of completely off-topic shit, by somehow projecting it onto whatever the topic of discussion is, just like you did.
how big would your harem be?I'd have a pleasure palace with at least 1000 femboys and 1000 women
>>96804583The point is that you demonstrated you don't know what the word shitposting means, and are still doing so.
>>96804543I think that anon was doing it for his personal pleasure, if you know what I mean.
>>96804553Don't post kino while shitposting please, thanks
>>96804590>haremsPolyamorists, polygamists, polywhatevers, you're all getting burned at the stake.
>>96804590that's pointless unless you have 200 clones of yourself at least
>>96804607>moralniggeryou're getting refined into a dick pill
>>96804561>even the absolute psychopaths called orthodox cultivators in xianxia would call it demonic cultivation and race to exterminate you for itThe orthodox cultivators in xianxia would race to exterminate anything they can find a flimsy excuse to, for the sake of stealing the resources of those they are exterminating. They are almost always hypocritical groups that are just as bad as demonic cultivators, or worse because they hide their atrocities behind lies.Besides that this exploration of this what if of my build has just made me value Wise Elder even less. While I don't value any of the other blessings enough to replace it, if I was to remake my build there is a good chance that I replace it with some treasure instead, or maybe I might reevaluate one of the blessings to rank 13th. As it is the thing only has gone back to maybe being useful with Iska, depending on how well Akashic Ascension Records works with her.
>>96804591>the point is that you [HEADCANON]Sure
>>96804618Headcanon? We aren't even talking about a CYOA. This is some real shitposting.
>>96804617>The orthodox cultivators in xianxia would race to exterminate anything they can find a flimsy excuse to, for the sake of stealing the resources of those they are exterminating.yes, but they wouldn't call it demonic cultivation, that's reserved for those who prey on other people to fuel their cultivation>Besides that this exploration of this what if of my build has just made me value Wise Elder even less.it really isn't for you, i think holing up in lost legacy and being a hermit is more your speed, unironically
SOVLFVL builds VS shitter powerfag meme buildsSOVL always wins
>>96804550>also i just have sex with the training arrayAgh, this thread is full of geniuses. I can't believe I didn't think of this myself.
>>96804644okay but you didn't say which is which
>>96804625It was a tongue-in-cheek joke about the fact that you're cojuring shit in your head to try to justify the fact that you've mentioned politics for no good reason. Trying to marry what that anon was planning to do with "le capitalism" is profoundly retarded and very much falls under the purview of shitposting.
Join a sect so you can betray them for their rivals and kill them/take their shitthen double cross the new sect and loot their shit too
I think wise elder is underrated. Just pick Protagonist Aura and Innovative and you can essetially train with your bros. Wise Elder is more for sects and such which I honestly believe to be a waste of time and energy since most of them will just he jobbers. Protagonist Aura might help but it's unclear if it would affect your entire sect, I'd have to reread the entry to make sure.
>>96804663The new sect will double cross and kill you first
>>96804590t. Cassian
>>96804676I obviously meant overrated* here
Zero Chud Dilemma
>>96804684I'd double cross them as soon as they showed up in the original betrayal battle
>>96804650>comparing a real world system of economic social control to anon's fantasy system of cultivation social control is completely off-topicyou're an idiot
>>96804630Pretty often the orthodox cultivators do prey upon other people to fuel their cultivation, they just lie about it. There isn't much difference between a demonic cultivator that kills someone to make blood pills, and a sword cultivator accusing an unaffiliated cultivator of being a demonic cultivator so he can fight them.>it really isn't for you, i think holing up in lost legacy and being a hermit is more your speed, unironicallyI agree. Though I will be out in the world trading with people and trying to acquire more information, and making sure that Iska can see and interact with the world as much as she wants. Also while my actual plans with mastermind do involve potentially taking cultivation level and talent from others, I'm not planning on tricking people into it. My plan is more like acting as an intermediary where someone wants to transfer their talent/cultivation to someone else, like a master to their student, I'll take a couple percent of it while doing the transfer.
>>96804704Nuh uh, they already double crossed you and now both sects are hunting you down
>>96804715>>96804630>>96804617>all this fucking headcanonWhy are you being intentionally retarded?
>>96804712Why not just make a new thread and post the entire thing there? I think we are long overdue by now.
xianxiasperg melty
>>96804712>>96804697bro you can see the file size and dimensions, you don't need to post them>>96804730>nooo you can't just use genre conventions this cyoa is oozing out of every orifice to infer things!cope readlet
>>96804732I was testing the file sizes.
NEW THREAD:>>96804748>>96804748>>96804748
>>96804742You should test your IQ instead.
>>96804730That was a tangent on trends in fiction, not even about the cyoa. It isn't headcanon when talking about something in related media. There was no arguing it was something that is in the cyoa.
>>96802633Stage 1.Spirit Conscript is an weeb setting, so everything in is automatically inferior and weak.
>>96804708That anon was making pacts that would benefit him at the expense of other people. The obvious real world equivalent there would be something about banks or jews. Which would also be shitposting but at the very least it would make more sense. Truth is, you're just a retard. You don't know shit about politics and you sure as hell don't know shit about that anon's plans either. I'm tired of this pointless discussion so you can be a retarded faggot on your own now.
>>96804789nah, it was a good analogy and you're just salty about it
>>96804676The real benefits of Wise Elder are that you can train students that will be loyal to you, and have it function the same as if you spent that time cultivating, thereby removing the opportunity cost of spending time teaching. Also it helps you to find talents with so they shouldn't be jobbers. Only really useful in specific builds, but a lot of things are that way, like Warhound is only really good if you are focused on fighting a lot, and not nearly as useful if you intend to support companions and/or the Perfect Guardian. Though it is more narrow than a lot of the other blessings.
>>96802436even if yesod was a beautiful girl, he doesn't care. He got the dwarf autism in his head because of the artifact. He is not a romance option
