KILL THE SOUTHERNERS edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>96793070>TQ:Which kits are you hoping are redone next?
>>96800657High Elf archers and spearmen are awful and need to be redone yesterday.
Estalia could NEVER work as an army! They have nothing unique about them, no interesting troops. Prove me wrong. You can't!
>TQI mean, Tomb King infantry should've gotten the refresh from the start, as well as knights of the realm for Bretonnia, but seeing as WoC already got scammed, then might as well right?My personal hope is empire state troops and imperial kngiths though.
>>96800657
>>96800657>TQHonestly anything from orcs and goblins would probably do pretty well with an update. You could probably pick anything that isn’t a character and it be justified
>>96800724>Boxes are in complete disarray>Weapons just left there without a care>Didn't even bother to clean up the skull on the barrel, or at least hang it with the othersGod dammit Aelfric, just look how tidy the neighbor's front lawn looks in comparison!
>>96800724Where does the smoke from the firepit go? Maybe that's why some of them are black
>>96800657>TQCentigors, pestigors (I'll take any mono-god beastmen stuff, honestly), Settra, chofts, big 'uns, anvil of doom, imperial dwarfs/ogres, Bugman's cart, and Juan Diaz's daemonettes[/spoilers]. I'd be happy to see any one of those.
>>96798707People like you are so fucking annoying because you live in an uninformed pocket of anti-reality, making brainheaded impossible observations.GW kits are designed multiple years in advance of release. They go into physical production like ~1 year before release. These are reality.If "the design direction has shifted for TOW" that shift occurred literally years ago. BEFORE ANY OF THE PRODUCTS YOU'RE COMPARING THE MARAUDERS TO EVEN RELEASED.Get a brain, moran.
>>96800792It was actually pretty common in the Middle Ages and even up until the modern period in some remote parts of northern Europe like rural Scandinavia and the Scottish Highlands, people just let the smoke fill up thier homes.
I think this new release is the best chance we've had to get Fimir, it feels a very Cottrell release.
>>96800821It helped them sleep :)
Would it have been so hard to make the models like this instead?
>>96800821>my ancestors gave me brain damage
>>96800685they should just make it fantasy Spain, give them a strong centralised goverment but have them all hate eachother. Then give them pikes and less guns to differentiate them from the empire.desu they could work as their own list but not their own army and I dont believe GW capable of making a Tercio kit.
>>96800657Thread Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdxRdriRCbw&list=RDLdxRdriRCbw&start_radio=1
>>96800792Norsemen haven't invented fire yet
>>96800856Naked nordic barbarians is a retarded concept, the revamp is perfect.
>>96800792usually in triangular abodes like this there's a triangular hole at the back of the hut for smoke to escape
>>96800724It almost looks cozy but it's probably like living in an attic with those slanted walls. Can't wear your horns indoors.
>>96800856>>96800904The old look still fits the kurgan.
>primed up and painted a bunch of foot knights>realised they looked like ass when done, left them in stripper to clean off>ended up having to put on new arms and bases because they warped when cleaning>don't even like these models but need them to be officialtmI fucking hate these models man why can't they just look like the Bretonnian BSB and Paladin hero they made?
>>96800904The revamp is boring and doesnt allow for any personalization.>retarded concept You are a weak, weak man.
>>96800968"Personalization" is old fag untalented code for twisting arms up and down along their single axis to fake the feeling you're "being creative."
>>96800904Leave the Cimmerians alone ...
>>96801004Cimmerians are based on celts, Norscans literally live in an arctic peninsula.
>>96800987Hard truth nukeIf you aren't chopping and gluing you aren't really customizing
>>96801004They look like leather Daddy queers.Probably just left Stonewall after fighting the cops
>>96800813You act like designing a kit is a Manhattan Project level undertaking. You could turn around kits in a month. It’s also been almost 2 years since TOW launched. Completely possible that the foot knights they designed 5+ years ago were done with a different vision in mind that they had 1-2 years ago.
>>96801056We are not the same.
>>96800987>>96801056You’re both retarded. With those minis there’s nothing to be done, cant stick animal bits onto them to represent their primal chaos gods, or kitbash their weapons, or turn them into something entirely different like forsaken. It’s one thing if they were keeping the current marauders but they’re replacing them with some Adidas project instead, which is fucked. I guarantee you that they’re gonna push these Marauders to completely outclass the current chaos warriors so that people can sideline them entirely, and change the factions identity with something more trade marketable, and if they do that with chaos, the most imaginative faction in the setting, it’s not long for the rest to follow suit.
>>96801206Sounds like you just suck at hobbying
>>96801056Black orc kit forces you to do a lot of chopping and trimming and gluing to get shields on.
>>96801219Perry anon was right. The degradation of the hobby will come for fantasy.
>>96801206This is either schizo level delusion or weak attempts to demoralize. Chaos warriors aren’t going anywhere anon.
>>96801228Go away perrynigger
>it’s just Perrynigger false flagging Imagine spending all day doing this. Sincerely pathetic behaviour.
>>96801241>Chaos warriors aren’t going anywhere anon.No, they’ll stagnate. In a ip that only wishes to go on, leaving them behind.
>>96801155You could "turn kits around in a month" if your task was to take a company with GW's capacity from an improbable static posture to producing a single kit.You cannot turn kits around in a month when they're part of a massive company that's working on 100 kits simultaneously that are slotted into production and release order for the next five years with the potential involvement of overseas partners for printing, packaging materials etc.You have a very jobless opinion. Could they hypothetically intrude on their rigorously planned release order to make arbitrary changes? Sure. Do they? Fuck no, not unless something has gone very wrong. We actually just saw a rare example of this with them recalling a Necromunda product (and we will see how long it takes to get the replacements produced and what changes about the product/packaging).
>>96801247>>96801248>PERRYS
Why do people hate perrys so much in this thread? They basically sculpted all of soulful Warhammer minis we love.
I fucking hate this bastard but on a fundamental level I agree with him.
>>96800865Kino
Don’t get me wrong the marauders are great but I really want to see the mammoth. Earlier people were discussing a marauder chieftain sculpt. My theory is that the Mammoth kit is going to come with the option to build a mounted chieftain riding a Mammoth that comes with the option to assemble him on foot. Like the necrosphinx kit that lets you build a foot slogging king.
>>96801266I mean I was using that as an extreme contrasting example. I wasn’t saying that the turnaround for a kit is 1 month. I think your estimates of 2+ years for kits is simply too far of an extreme on the other end.
>>96801371If they drop a mammoth I'm going balls deep into the army
>>96800657>tqState troops, but just to make sure they all have shoes.
>>96801392It's not an estimate, it's the informed conclusion the most checked-in participants of the hobby have reached (from a combination of sources, the most important of which are ex-GW employees who have done interviews on youtube and in print).One of the most telling pieces of evidence is something you can on occasion confirm for yourself -- when you buy a brand new kit, look at the year stamped on the sprue. Oftentimes it'll be the previous year (or even 2 years earlier) meaning that the sprues were physically produced up to a year before the actual release.
>>96800731They better not touch black orcs, those sculpts are perfect.>no verification required
>>96801405I am certain a mammoth is coming. The rumour said marauders+mammoth. If you don’t value rumours, today on the Old World Facebook page under the announcement post a guy asked about Mammoths and they said “ possibly in the future “ as a response. The official account responding in the positive is basically a confirmation. It’s when and not if. Check out the Facebook announcement yourself if you don’t believe me.
>>96800657Fimir.
Rate my twist for the party dungeon-diving,Dwarves call for an audit because the dungeon was technically Dwarven property, a tense legal battle ensues in Grenzstadt where the PCs learn the legal proceedings are for more than just counting coins.
>>96801329Perry refers to a very specific anon who doesn't own GW models, only Perry Miniatures historical models. He is used as a bogeyman whenever there is a post or opinion someone doesn't like.
>>96801519*obligatory nod*
>settra and frydaal get miniatures and a new book to advance their narratives>mfw we'll probably get morghur or new plastics for beastmen
>>96801596Beastmen are being squatted and moved to Horus Heresy.
>>96800657How do people defend female minis at this point? We finally get a kit that's all male and it looks better than anything GW has released in a while. No one looks at a female marauder, chaos warrior, bretonnian, cathayan, whatever and thinks it looks capable or badass. Plus the people who actually want them are always really embarrassing and cringe coomers, really awkward people that you can't bring anywhere.The only female minis that are good are the ones that make sense like elves, mages, maybe artillery crew like cathay has. Frontline non-elf fighters though nah thats shite
>>96801605Finally I can play them in a proper narrative game
>>96801605thats old news, they're being moved to middle earth now
>>96800864I think sword and buckler men and mounted ginetes but with crossbow pistols would be cool.
>>96801607Almost all my mages are female, but I have little time for women with 2 handed weapons.
>>96801607I think Frydaal looks pretty good. Reminds me of Justine from Gotrek and Felix. The problem with AoS models isn’t that there are women, it’s that they are half women, half black,have HR haircuts and are fat.
>>96801607Is issue isn’t female minis, the issue is buck ugly sculpts
>>96801607You're male and you're not capable or badass.I look at the ugly inbred woman you posted and think "cool model for the inbred uglies army."There are like 6 or 7 women models in the Slaves to Darkness range and 50 or 60 male models. You're a weak guy, obsessed.
>>96801719nta, but lel. Untrained, weak men demolish trained women in nearly anything physical. Unless they're chaos mutated or magical, women do not belong on the battlefield.
>>96801741This is why I like Frydaal too. Seeing regular human women are frontline CC soldiers is jarring. Having a woman who has been granted chaos gifts as a leader/great warrior is plausible and doesn’t require suspension of disbelief. It’s about the logical consistency within the world.
>>96801741Wouldn’t that make more sense why they’re chaff
>>96801206Chaos warriors have already been sidelined, anon. Go look at the lists people bring to tournaments. Nary a warrior to be seen! But forsaken and dragons and gigantic chaos spawn, oh my! It's a shame, really. I love my warriors, I really do. I wish they were good, but they just aren't.
>>96801771You don't use those who can make more warriors in human wave tactics.
>>96801788Well that’s why you kidnap them then right?
>>96801607Stfu grognard fag. No one cares about what you think
Question, getting my first OW game in soon, and need to know something before I finalize my list. Does a unit fleeing because of Terror trigger panic tests for units within 6”, like if they lost combat? My opponent is bringing a Chaos Lord on Dragon and I don’t want to auto-lose with Yeoman Guard fleeing and breaking everyone around them besides Knights.
>>96801741That's weak man cope lolI'm not gonna go through the Darkoath units exhaustively, but at a cursory glace:- 2 of the women models are standard bearers (the most protected position in a unit)- 1 is a horse archer (a role that depends on skill over strength)- 1 uses a spear (a weapon that overcomes mismatches in strength)- 1 or 2 are leader models that probably have chaotic blessingsThat leaves only 2-3 that "don't make sense" (and those still make sense if you go to the effort of imagining them as trained and skilled anomalies)
>>96801788As already presented to you, fewer than 10 out of 60 models in the specific range being discussed are women.
I’m convinced this dude is false flagging for yous
That marauder cav is wild. And I like the current marauder cav a lot. The old foot marauders are probably the sculpt that shows its age the most in any game system other than catachans in 40k, great call to refresh them. I am also hyped for learning about how they worship in Norsca.
>>96801843>Sure, but it still makes no sense>you have never ridden a horse if you believe it isn't physically taxing, let alone archery where upper body strength is the name of the game>50lb draw weight bow lelelelel>women aren't just weaker, they are slower, smaller, lighter and less coordinated>sure, that one is fineI don't know what we're arguing about here. Women are inferior to men in combat, that doesn't mean I hate them. They just don't belong in a game that's simulating war unless there are fantastic circumstances. >>96801852Refer to first reply. It's fine if it's justified, but there's a fine line between including exceptional women and just shoving them in for politics or diversity. Every woman that's put in has to be fantastical, and that makes it both harder to suspend disbelief and takes away from those that are blessed by chaos or the winds of magic.
>>96800821I think that only works with straw roofs, but I don't know for sure.
>>96800657Great new 1 wound models with a shitton of useless crap on them to paint, this is just like the 8th ed State troops...can't we just have simple models that will rank well and look good?
>>96801945You can just use contrast paint if you’re too lazy to give them your full attention unc
>>96801903Do you complain about "old" models?Once someone is in their 50's they are inferior combatants.
>>96801957Good look up a guide on how to paint up gene stealer cults. Because that’s what these models are going to be like to paint.
>>96801961Eh 30 arguably, for some at least. 40 max.
>>96801974These guys are each minimum 50% fur texture, which is the single easiest thing to paint in all of miniaturedom.
>>96801957contrasts paints are bad
>>96801961Dude, I'm not complaining. I don't play AoS. It's an observation and I justified why I think it's dumb. You're free to like whatever you do. And nope, especially in the case of Norsca. Their lives revolve around war.
>>96801992Anon look at their clothing again.
>>96801961Dwarves shouldn’t have any melee units if we’re doing realism. They’d have so little reach compared to humans or elves it’d put them at an instant disadvantage
>>96802021I mean this IS true, I don’t get why they don’t have spears, it’s fucking retarded.
>>96801890>I am also hyped for learning about how they worship in Norsca.If you're not deathly allergic to the 4th edition of the roleplaying game, Sea of Claws goes into some depth about how the different tribes treat chaos worship, and at least those portions don't contain the controversial stuff that might turn people off.
This forced DEI push to strengthwash white grampas needs to end!!
>>96802068Why does gw love old men so much
>>96802068>AoS>AoS>witch hunterJust take your lumps and shut up, you simpering faggot.
>>96802078Grizzled old veterans are cool, shame they’re as unrealistic as women.
>>96802068Kill yourself perrynigger and stop posting AoS. >>96802087Eh. We have steroids that can keep old men strong and fit, I’m sure they have some ways to boost test as well.
>>96801719The projection:
>>96802095I'd guess it's more necessity than anything like that. There's constant warfare, even in our world old men are drafted when things get bad enough.
>>96802095Women can take steroids, retard. In fact it makes them look ugly and butch like the models you dislike.
>>96802108Old men are recruited at the same time as 12 year olds. GW better starting putting children into the new Empire Volksturm box
>>96802127Wouldnt mind one at all, genuinely makes more sense than female soldiers
>>96802132Women were in it too
>>96802108I wonder who else might be called upon to fight in times of desperation.
>>96802147Man cmon, there are better historical instances of women joining men on the forefront. Like uhh fuck the Scythians? Use that as your basis man cmon.
>>96802155Full auto weapons are not common in warhammer plus these women couldnt aim and were seen as a hindrance/liability
I guess he’s educating himself on Scythians now, lol.
I cant make Cathay work. I refuse to buy the lantern due to wanting to actually look and feel like an army, yet I lose to getting shot at before I can do anything despite stacking defensive spells. Do I really have to resort to cancerous cloak of jet spam?
>>96801719Funny to hear this while i actively train muay thai at the same gym as gsp lol, believe it or not not every warhammer enjoyer is as out of shape like you
>>96802316What’s your local meta like?
>>96802345Balanced armies with 2 units of skirmishers on the flanks
>>96802316Can’t help you much as I don’t play Cathay but those are gorgeous models anon.
>>96801607Basedcucks are beyond any help. Deep down they know those diversity models look retarded but at this point they can't back down.
>>96802087They're nowhere near as unrealistic as women. There are plenty of older men who are in shape. Sure they wouldn't win a boxing match against a 20 years old but they would demolish a bunch of women without any problem
>>96802123and they're still much weaker than men when they do, which is hilarious
Does anyone know any decent graveyard terrain kits? I tried for looking something sizeable to accent my morr warband but nothing much is coming up. Ideally it would be crypts like what the garden of morr/ /Cursed Sepulchre from aos has.
>>96801788>instead you just use your prime male breeding material
>>96801974GSC aren't even hard tho?
>>96802489gave me a laugh
I don't get why it's such a hurdle to get over the idea of female warriors, female warriors are an old ass fantasy trope that goes all the way to Greek mythology.
>>96802501You kind of just sound like a paintlet anon. I don't think anyone should be making models with making them easy to paint in mind. Just git gud
>>96802509I’m not opposed to the idea. The problem is that the models look like shit and are over designed. I hate the Frydaal mini. I wish the new Old World models were less busy. The new Beastmen were good, but Cathay is so over-designed.
>>96802433In terms of gw graveyard themed stuff there's the aos "Sand & Bone Gaming Pack" that has some unique scenery that could be usable Other than that skullforge scenics (etsy) is by a white dwarf contributor who handsculpts and casts some graveyard stuff in traditional resin, doesnt 3d print, good quality
>>96802509They're gay as fuck just like the greeks were Miss me with that faggot shitHowever they are fine in factions and roles that make sense
>>96802509Because people want the original setting respected instead of mutilated to fit your current year politics of mandatory inclusion. Also the more gender specific shit they put on the sprues the less overall options you end up with when it comes to bits swapping and/or conversion.
>>96800821Chimneyless saunas are still used occasionally in Finland. Typically there is a small ventilation hole in the wall though.
>>96802509I hate female soldiers. Heroines I like though.
>>96802652Mutilated like their bottom surgery
>>96802087We've historical documents that prove that men in their fifties fought in the wars of the roses as men at arms.
>>96802509Not every army needs to have women in them. It's also cancerous because they're doing it for girlboss/DEI reasons. It's not organic; it's forced.
>>96802718isnt that the fake war
You guys notice there’s a dragon silhouette on the new AJ?
>>96802943>two heads Galruch?
>>96802957Perhaps…perhaps not
>>96800657Why is GW fucking allergic to ranged infantry. Give them goddamn bows or throwing axes or javelins, or fucking something. These look good, but releasing like 1/3 of a range and telling people to play the army is fucking stupid.
>>96803054go play elves
>>96803054I agree, javelins and throwing axes would be a good fit for marauders. Warbows even.
>>96803054>chaos >range I guess you have your horsemen. Unless they removed the weapon options from them?
>>96803054>why did GW not give WoC marauders ranged weapons!!!!?!!?!How new are you that you’re even asking such a silly question? That’s like one of the WoC core aspects, no ranged outside magic (and the hellcannon but even that is a mercenary weapon made and crewed by dwarfs)
If they do actually give Chaos infantry range like in twwh then >>96801206 is onto something.
>>96803063Nah marauder horse have option to buy javelins or throwing axes.
>>96802316Haven't looked into TOW since before Cathay released. What makes the lanterns so good you can't win without them?
>>96803068They didn’t give WoC ranged weapon infantry they gave javelin throwing infantry to Norsca.
>>96803075
Was there a leak or something tangible about ogres leaving aos or is it speculation?
>>96803087Just a complete refresh
>>96802316are you playing with objectives? jade warrior should be able to hold them against shooting. play the sentinel as granite. you can hide the shugengan behind your infantry since its not a large target.
>>96803066I know this, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. Javelins would be so goddamn perfect here. Trying to pretend that just not letting certain factions use an entire phase of the game is somehow thematic is moronic. There is literally no reason they wouldn't have bows.
>>96803054Arent they just updated marauder models? Not a new army.
>>96803109Norsca might slowly end up becoming the face of Chaos (warriors). we dont really know.
>>96803109They are literally just updated marauders >>96803113 is perrynigger most likely trying to demoralize. He’s the one who brought up this “ theory “ in the last thread and has been bringing it up since then as if others have said anything about it.
>>96803109That's fair, though I had the same reaction for Darkoath. It's pretty funny to me that in the vidya, companies have to make up units to round out rosters and make factions playable, but GW themselves just won't for some reason. Obviously, everyone doesn't need to have everything, but just arbitrarily deciding that WoC don't get to throw shit will never not be dumb.
I like the old night goblins so I will add a box to my to-do pile in case they get replaced.
>>96803126It’s not arbitrary it’s a conscious design choice they stuck with. It’s what keeps armies varied and interesting. No one would play or care if every army was able to do everything equally well. It’s an asymmetrical game by design.
>>96803137Good job ignoring half my post. It is arbitrary. I'm not saying I want them to get a full artillery battery, or even that I want chaos warriors to do much at a distance. But the goddamn marauders should get shitty bows at least.
>>96803156whats next, we give green skins gunpowder units?
>>96803165No, the next thing is another irrelevant fallacy that refuses to engage with my actual point.
>>96803156Nah bows don’t fit their aesthetic or theme at all. Javelins I could understand because you have the image of them hunting mammoths for meat throwing javelins but bows don’t fit. You probably aren’t aware but using a bow in an arctic environment is extremely difficult. Borderline impossible for primitive bows made of natural components that stiffen and freeze over. Javelins make sense for an arctic environment like they live in. Bows don’t.
>>96803137couldn't you ally ungor bowmen?
>>96803179Yes you can
>>96803176Yeah, I was thinking of the old marauders when I said bows, because yeah, chaos marauders used to have bows. But I agree, javelins feel best.
>>96803196Throwing axes would also fit their Viking aesthetic but a 9 inch ranged weapon is basically useless on infantry
>>96803210I mean, realistically they were a line destabilizing weapon. You could have them get the throw off right before a charge. That would be thematic and fun, so never ever.
>>96800792Firewood is scarce in Norsca
>>96801719Seething tranny kek
>>96802316Fooken nice paintjobs. Maybe get another Sentinel instead
>>96801695It also helps that she's on foot in an interesting duel pose and not riding a 100x100mm CADslop dildo monster centerpiece
>>96803271Do you always think of dildos? I mean, im not one to judge man. We all have our tastes.
>>96803280You're a greasy AoS playing Reddit tranny with zero friends for a reason, and this puerile faggot humor is really not helping your case
>>96803296erm, based?
>>96803054>Chaos>Rangedlol
>>96803271>dildo monsterI think its more accurate to say that they're almost all some kind of boxy lizard.
>>96802068>50-60 something grizzled oldfag vampire/witch hunter on his last and greatest hunt before his aging body fails himThis is a kino trope, don't pretend otherwise. I don't know what that Renaissance Faire larper in the middle is supposed to be though.
Progress on the Tomb King, almost done with him, then I can finish the howdah
>>96803405Looks fantastic so far.
>>96803214Such weapons could be represented by furious charge or some other charge bonus.
>>96800724Norsca terrain could be cool
>>96803405very nice
>>96800856you can use the spare helmets to improve the aos marauders>but womenwomen with helmets are hot
>>96802943there's a dragon in the other cover too, it means jack shit
I’m going to paint up some Wissenlanders. They don’t get enough love in a world dominated by Averlanders, Stirlanders and Talabheimers. Any tips or ideas to make them stand out?
>>96803499yeah, change the color scheme
>>96803528Fuck you. Castle grey, clean white and crisp reds rule.
Cool or silly undead army idea: Frankenstein-themed zombie armyNecromancer riding a big rotting rat with bat wings grafted on. His cloak is man of skins stitched together (like the one on the 40k haemonculus)Instead of crypt horrors, big frankenstein zombies with several bodies merged together crudely with implements for handsLots of zombies for baseline troops, some converted to be amalgams of parts stitched together.Banners would feature lightning motifs striking a zombified head with bolts at the neck, and glowing eyesCorpse carts would feature necromantic acolytes with butcher cleavers and lots of surgical looking implements on their waist
>>96803547>Frankenstein-themed>doesn't have a Frankenstein
>>96803547too silly, even for AoS, imo
>>96803553Dr Frankenstein is the head necromancer
>>96800685They're literally just empire with Morion hats and perhaps more involvement with Araby and the New WorldYou could do an Estalian army right now by kitbashing WGA conquistadors with Empire kits if you wanted a shortcut
>>96803579But no Frankenstein's monster? You could easily make it work with a Strigoi Ghoul King
>>96803607>kitbashing WGA conquistadors with Empire kits if you wanted a shortcutWouldn't work. The WGA kit is not heroic scale.
>>96803547Frankenstein kind of is a necromancer archetype. Sounds very on brand to me. Plus there are tons of really cool minis from all sorts of different companies and genres for undead horrors to proxy pretty much anything you could include in an army like that.Sounds like a great army concept.
>>96800856I really hate the aesthetic of being shirtless with fuck huge pauldrons
>>96802509You're a bit stupidWhere female warriors existed as a trope, the fact that they were female was the unique thematic element - amazons, scythians, valkyries etc. - the stand out, unique thing was precisely the fact that they were fighting-women, in a man's domain (war). Take for example the Sisters of Sigmar, or Amazons in Lustria, or Valkia the Bloody for old GW examplesModern GWs idea of female warriors is to pretend there is no difference between men and women, women should occupy any possible position in a a factions army at random and basically to gaslight you until Karl Franz himself is a black womanIf you can't tell the difference between the two approaches you are a certified smoothbrain mcsmoothy
>>96803547depending on how hard you go on the electric elements, it fits aos more than whfbotherwise you have to bend backwards a little bit to make this faction somehow connected with the other electric frankenstein subfaction that already exists in the setting
>>96803135Of all the old plastic kits, I think the Night Goblins are probably on the safer end, GW replacing TK skeletons or Slayers are more likely than Night Goblins
>>96800657I would love for them to do some genuine old world chorfsThe new ones from AoS are convertible but it's a still fair bit of effort to get a modernised version of the traditional bighatsI'll probably use the hobgrots tho for hobgoblins and shave off the armour bits
>>9680196170 year old men are more dangerous than women in their prime, commie retard.
>>96800657>>TQ:>Which kits are you hoping are redone next?tomb kings skeletons desperately need the upgrade
Im happy for the new marauder kit but I might alos use the old one with some conversions for model variety. I hope they do Kislev soon. Purely so I can run them as traitor Kislev and use the models for more marauders.
I like these better for barbarians in winterclothes.
>>96803874How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
>>96803874The hammers cool
>>96803738Just say you hate warhammer
>>96803903I hate warhammer
>>96803915Bold.
>>96803874>"barbarian" vikings>having the resources and metallurgy to make zweihanders>but still running around in mailleNo.Also>metal-rimmed shield-50 points from Gryffindor, fagmeister
>>96790551Did a template for whoever wants it.
>>96803874These look like barely better than warlord (not a compliment), very 2002
>>96803934They stole it
>>96803947https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC__JxLj6-8
We must manifest Kislev into existence
>>96803054Ironically Chaos Warriors would make some of the greatest bowmen in the whole world, simply because since they are so much stronger than most other races they could take bows with heavier draw strengths, and fire stronger arrows.Add the fact that they could have ensorcelled bows, and each Chaos Warrior with a bow could be the equivalent of a walking scorpio.
>>96803947Bless anon. If not for it bring 4am and the sleeping pills kicking in I would be repping Stirland
>>96803874I think the new frostgrave cultists 3 kit would be better, with headswaps. The sculpts are of higher quality and they've got pretty neat polearms.
>>96804005I think it's hard to use bows while wearing a plate harness with such massive pauldrons, but you are correct when you say that they are fine physical specimens for archers.
>>96804005This is fucking retarded
>>96804005Chaos is all about raw power, brutality, and proving your supremacy over your enemy to the dark gods. Hard to convey that with a bow and arrow. At most they should have throwing axes and javelins.
>>96803491>dragon on the cover>single headclearly the Warpfire dragon that got rereleased with and has rules in the book, you stupid fuck
>>96803491Wtf is with that stupid dnd tiefling with the midget arm ? How is that even relevant to the guys below that tranny character ?
These sets are the only set they have made that's interested me at all in 20 years and I'm not being hyperbolic.
>>96804154Well those guys aren’t really relevant now either
