Elfrobatics Edition>/40kg/ Community Linkhttps://rentry.org/40k-General>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh (embed)>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/Previous thread:>>96797206 >Thread QuestionThe year's almost up, anything you're aiming to get done before 2026?
First for sisters
GW is gonna run out of new space marine models to make.
>non 40k East Asian artist I've been following for years suddenly does 40k art out of the blueHave we made it bros? Have we truly gone mainstream?
>>96801291Im hoping to finish 1 (one) squad. Im so fucking swamped with life.
>>96801307Whats the diff between Assault intercessors adn the guys at bottom?
>>96801311post link/artist name
>>96801322Better poses and wolf shit on the chestplates
I could use some feedback, I've narrowed my choices for Harlequin color scheme to two options. Harley Quinn Harlequins, or pink and blue Harlequins like this piece of non-40k Harlequin art I found while searching for inspiration. Whadayall think?
Hot take but most (not all, but most) Tau plot-armor claims just consist of overestimating the Imperium's capabilities to a large degree
>>96801311Not yet. When the 40k Cavillverse launches on Amazon Prime, all the Marvel, Game of Thrones, and The Boys bandwagoners will hop on and we will see the horrible glory becoming true mainstream media.
>>96801336I love the right but it really is the trans flag colors
>>96801323消化Oh wait no he did this a year ago and a few other I missed
>>96801344I hate that the lgbt flags are coopting all the color schemes.
>>96801311The only mainstream worth attracting.
>>96801344That's fine with me. I agree, it's a lovely color combination and it works with harlequin aesthetics so well. I'm leaning towards it, but I would have to find a good pink paint. GW pinks are pretty shitty
>>96801322Assault intercessors are the same model copy pasted in 5 different poses. The guys at the bottom actually look like different from one another
This is why most Dark Eldar are born in vats as adults
>>96801337I think it's also from people not realizing the Damocles Crusade is like 200 years old in-universe at this point.
>have two units of regular Terminators with the Assault Cannon and Flamer >a grey unprimed unit shows up at my LGS built with the rockets for 50 percent offIf I get this Battleforce I’m really gonna run 30 Terminators huh…..That’s not even including the characters.
Kin fans.Justify slaughtering defenseless diplomats.
>>96801318Rainbow warriors would be sick if they were like pic related. Each company is a different very bright colour. Space marines can be dark and gritty and childishly bright and colourful and everything in between. The culture warrior fags can fuck off and die rainbow warriors could be sick. And they can have an element of being a glownigger since they're named after a french spy blowing up a kiwiship and accidently killing someone
Tau are quite weak and could be crushed by the Imperium pretty easily. That used to be what was grimdark about the Tau, they’re a naive race that has no idea what they are dealing with. It changed because people thought it was too nice but they’re still far too small to ever be a threat to a genuine imperium assault.
>>96801413>Tau are quite weak and could be crushed by the Imperium pretty easily.Then why haven't they?>inb4 cope
>>96801413The grimdarkness of the Tau is that they are 'foul xenos' who are a rising powers and are too powerful to be wiped out anymore. They are meant to represent all the *many* xenos empires rising in the ashes of the Imperium to replace humanity in the galaxy. Thats why they're grimdark
>>96801413are the Votann in a similar boat?
Want some opinions. Toying with the idea of doing a Space Wolves army based on the Wild Hunt of myth. I have two options in my mind:A - Entire force is composed of ghosts (they will be painted like ghosts). I have a super quick and easy scheme in mind.B - One man in every squad is corporeal, alive, probably the sergeant. The rest of the force will be painted as ghosts as above. This will make it look like his ancestors are fighting alongside him or something like that. Maybe they're fighting with the fury of an entire squad, and the enemy is simply imagining the rest of the squad? Who knows....Anyways, I feel like A sells the "Wild Hunt" theme better (I could use dryad ghosts as scouts or something), more opportunities to incorporate fantasy elements. B comes across as a little less lazy and breaks up the force a bit which would be helpful for painting fatigue and gameplay.Thoughts?
>>96801429No. The Votann are extremely powerful. They are a DAoT human faction
>>96801413>Tau are quite weak and could be crushed by the Imperium pretty easilyNo it would take a serious amount of effort.They will eventually win but it would leave the other parts of the Imperium undefended and would get ravaged by the other factions willing to pounce on the oppurtunity14th Black Crusade is gonna reach Terra and its gonna be a fight between Chaos and Votann because Space Marines and Guard will be too busy dying to Tau Railguns
>>96801411disgusting
>>96801413No amount of cope will make the Damocles Crusade an Imperial victory
>>96801413>Tau are quite weak and could be crushed by the Imperium pretty easilyThey WERE quite weak and COULD'VE been crushed by the Imperium quite easily. Now they've grown into a threat too big for the Imperium to handle.That's the grimdarkness about the Tau. They represent that the Imperium is now too weak to handle minor xenos factions from rising up and claiming new empires in their territory. They show that the Imperium is in its twilight, it is a declining empire.
>>96801411they're called Rainbow Warriors because they paint rainbows(sort of) on their armor
>>96801435but like how many worlds and people do they actually have? How powerful is their tech? Necron Tier(Tyr)?
>>96801426That is not remotely what they were supposed to represent. They were supposed to represent the countless xeno empires out there that don’t comprehend the true nature of the galaxy. It’s effectively a joke about them being *wrong* genre savvy. They are in The Call of Cthulhu, not Star Trek>daemons are just weird aliens >what do you mean magic, it’s mind science >Nur’gle?>>96801422Because theyre a popular army. All jokes aside it’s because the imperium has way bigger issues. It doesn’t go out of its way to wipe out all xenos. It will do so as rogue traders and other imperium forces colonize a sector but that’s not quite the same thing.
>>96801429Frustratingly GW just handwaved that LoV have a whole bunch of competing empires in the center of the Galaxy. Areas that the Imperium haven't even fully mapped out yet
>>96801432But the WIld Hunt are elffags in heavy skeleton armour why did you post a bunch of randoms led by topless women riding horses through the air? Your could be cool, but the Wild Hunt is so centred around riding horses I'm not sure it can be translated into foot slogging space marines, without treading the ground of the legion of the damned
>>96801436This is nonsensical. The imperium would not critically weaken itself if it chose to wipe out the Tau. The Tau control almost no planets in imperial terms. People say this a lot but it’s innumerate. This is more true of the Imperium deciding to wipe out Comorragh or whatever
>>96801444Would be cool if their lore reason for rainbows was to honor the original covenant god made with man to not flood the earth again and they were huge bible thumpers.
>>96801458I still find it funny that the joke of "I use silver swords to kill elves" became a reality in Witcher 3
>>96801450>They were supposed to represent the countless xeno empires out there that don’t comprehend the true nature of the galaxy. Not anymor, GW is removing the Tau naivety
>>96801470That would make zero sense in lore.
Going to a warhammer store for the first time tomorrow. What do I buy?
>>96801480they fell out of the warp, no one knows where they came from. Boom problem solved.
>>96801470Nah gotta change it to Emperor worship. The Emperor creates the astonomicon which is a big light right. So they worship the Emperor so much they embody the whole spectrum of light the Emperor creates.
>>96801481Sometimes Hammers sometimes War, depends on how I feel that day.
>>96801490No, that still sucks. There's no way to make Christian Space Marines anything other than stupid.
>>96801481last time I did that I ended up with a sore ass and a real bad itch
What people don't understand about the Tau is that they are effectively 'playing tall'. The Imperium is very big, yes, but extremely underdeveloped relative to its size. The Tau, although their territory on the map is small, are extremely well-developed and dense in terms of both population density as well as infrastructure, factories, and of course technology. Not only do they know how to terraform planets to be habitable, but they also build continent-sized space stations functioning as massive habitats and connecting the gaps in their empire. Imagine the Imperium as a guy in Stellaris who conquered 80% of the galaxy, but now he has cripplingly massive empire size penalties, almost no research, and is heavily reliant on an increasingly rare supply of archaeo-tech weapons and and ancient relic resources to build them.And then the Tau are some guy with like 10 systems whose doing some Knights of the Toxic God max-research cosmogenesis cheese run and has built a habitat and ecumenopoli with orbital rings in all of his systems.
>>96801501I dont like furries. Post a different image
Do you use Woods or Pipes in your games of 10th edition 40k?
>>96801464>The Tau control almost no planets in imperial termsBut what they do control is way higher quality than anything the Imperium has. If you have 1,000 planets but each of your planets is worth 50 of the Imperium's then that's a lot harder to conquer than you would initially assume.
>>96801494a Second Founding Ultramarines successor that worships the Emperor is a little odd. Not impossible, but I think they would need to come up with a justification for it
>>96801478Yeah and it was dumb. Now their depiction is all over the place. Sometimes the ethereals force people to kill themselves over nothing. Then in Elemental Council someone says oh we don’t do that any more ha ha. They don’t know what to do with the TauThe naivety was pretty compelling to me as a fluff hook. There is this one incident where the Tau encounter the Death Guard that is pretty epic because it’s like a traditional science fiction faction encountering Chaos
>>96801501You repeat this nonsense in every thread but it’s just as retarded every time. The imperium has an unimaginably massive population and resources at its command. If anything the imperium is like the space USSR or whatever, it can throw infinite men and materiel at a problem. Imperial worlds are not low population>>96801501
>>96801511Gonna star using woods, specifically palm trees. I gotta buy a yellow sand colored mat to match them, maybe with an oasis on it.
If you want to claim Necrons or Tyranids can win then okay but do we really have to listen to delusional Tau weebs that think they aren’t just another doomed xenos race
>>96801511L shaped ruins exclusively
>>96801526The Tau are the most inconsequential faction to the settings story as far as I can tell.
>>96801526Explain why the damocles crusade failed then
>>96801458I figure it's close enough. But even if not, then maybe option B would be a bit better? Could go for a "last of their kind" thing. Maybe it's where the Imperium is about to be snuffed out and they're the last Wolves
>>96801518Fair enough, I do agree anon. Either they're unaware of the scale of the Imperium and the nature of the world or they're not. The etherals mind control angle has always been lame as fuck
>>96801549It was the writers giving Tau players something to cling to, they had nothing before it.
>>96801526>The imperium has an unimaginably massive population and resources at its commandTotal, yes. But relative to its size, it is quite poor. Many of their worlds are feudal worlds, feral worlds, and death worlds, producing little of value, and most of their worlds are civilized worlds, only producing moderate value but not much compared to what they should be. Even their hive worlds are inefficient and they only have tens of thousands of those. Their forge worlds are kind of okay but they're listed as being in the mere hundreds.Fundamentally the Imperium is a million worlds running on 1% efficiency, whereas the Tau are 1,000 worlds running at 100% efficiency.
>>96801555>Could go for a "last of their kind" thing. Maybe it's where the Imperium is about to be snuffed out and they're the last WolvesThat's a cool idea, space marines from the future where the Imperium is even more fucked or just dead is pretty unexplored
>>96801556It's funny because how sinister the Tau shifts back and forth. Like Vespids being mind controlled by their communication devices used to be heavily implied but then years later we get the kill team and those heavy implications are gone Or how ethereal suicide commands went from a secret thing to more of publicly acknowledged seppuku
>>96801567Power scaling within events is usually just whatever the author wants for their story it’s all over the place. I don’t mind that too much, but logically, the Tau are turbo fucked. >bad ftl>no truly strong psykers other than potentially humans they’ve conquered and a lot of those are going to open to portals to hell, which the Tau have no context for, similar to humanity during the age of strife>so small that every lost world matters to the Tau
>>96801574So is it your serious opinion that based on all relevant past and current feats described for both Factions that the Tau would defeat the Imperium? Is that your honest assessment?
>>96801567You're right because the Damocles Crusade failing is literally in the first Tau codex.
>>96801584> Like Vespids being mind controlled by their communication devices used to be heavily implied but then years later we get the kill team and those heavy implications are goneWhat do you mean, the mind control was made clear canon with the new vespids. But its just the squad leaders with the head covered mask that are mind controlled. The rest of the team just follow the leader since they're quite animalistic and not truely sentient
your models post them
>>96801574Most imperial worlds are canonically civilized worlds with populations in the billions. The sort of places you see in the Cain novels. Feral worlds and death worlds are uncommon but are kind of important to the imperium because they are considered good places to recruit space marine aspirants or guard regiments.
>>96801598That depends. What kind of war are we describing? Is the Imperium going on an all out invasion against the Tau? Then yes, they would lose, they don't have the resources or the manpower for that kind of endeavor. Is the Tau going on an all out invasion of the Imperium? Then they would also lose, the Tau don't have the resources or the manpower to occupy that much land and their supply lines would spread thing.
>>96801620Welcome to Fenris, enjoy your stay.
is there any canon depiction of tau women besides shadowsun ? i thought the men and women were supposed to look the same.....
>>96801624>Most imperial worlds are canonically civilized worlds with populations in the billionsWhich isn't very good. They should be ecumenopoli with populations in the trillions. But because the Imperium fundamentally doesn't have the technology to know how to maintain or create ecumenopoli anymore, they're stuck with civilized worlds and hive worlds instead.
>>96801620looks amazing anon ! pic is my noobie blackstar in ultramarine colours
Death Worlds produce a lot the best imperial soldiers, Catachan is the best example. Catachan humans are a bit like sayians but obviously far weaker. They’re stronger, tougher, and smarter than other humans. Basically an entire race of Rambos.This is probably the sort of reason the imperium bothers with death worlds and feudal worlds at all. There’s a real sense in which people from that kind of planet are better suited to deal with something like Chaos
>>96801627So everything you have read about the Imperium, the feats that they have achieved, the still living demigods that they employ and their insanely strong psykers. The fact that they are keeping the nids and necrons at bay alone all of that you say pfftt to, but a single victory against one crusade is enough for you to say yep they can win the whole setting? What?
>>96801307Not really. Blood Angels termies, death company, furioso. Grey knights refresh. DA ravenwing bikers and gravbikers, Generic astartes upgrade kit for outriders. Vanguard vets. New intercessor/tactical marines. Breacher unit of heavy intercessors with shields.CSM upgrade sprues for alpha legion and iron warriors, Huron, bikers, obliterators, WE termies, WE dread, WE apothecary, WE jugger riders, DG ranged termies like the HH unit. A DQ character on palanquin.Termies for EC and a 2nd termie or power armour unit for TS.
>>96801638>They should be ecumenopoli with populations in the trillionsThat might be pretty bad since an ecumenopolis takes unimaginable amounts of supplies to keep alive. All the food must be imported daily as does water since there's no oceans anymore (where the fucking water they use daily goes is anyones guess. Must be some flooded ancient sewers somewhere.
>>96801638That wouldn’t be a good way to build, it doesn’t make sense most of the time. Most DAOT planets were not like that either. Either way though, 1000 planets might as well be 0. The imperium has been adding hundreds of planets year for ten thousand years according to lore.
>>96801646Yay, highlightong
>>96801603The sense I got was that that the grunt vespids are mind controlled by the squad leader vespid who isn't mind controlled by anyone. But that's because they're bees, the worker drones are essentially mindless
>>96801628gorgeous army anon
>>96801657There's a finite number of bullets needed to kill God. That's the philosophy that embodies the Tau.
/40kg/ what are your hopes and fears for 11th ed? Realistically what are we most likely to actually get outside of your wishful thinking?
>>96801657The Imperium are not keeping the tyranids and necrons at bay alone lol. The necrons are mostly keeping themselves at bay
>>96801674and then Neo shows up and the bullets don't work anymore. Their philosophy is as valuable as my education and I'm a retard.
>>96801450>Because theyre a popular army. All jokes aside it’s because the imperium has way bigger issues. It doesn’t go out of its way to wipe out all xenos. It will do so as rogue traders and other imperium forces colonize a sector but that’s not quite the same thing.Doing because it's meta is a bitchmove.The Deathwatch has dozens of wiped-out Xenos empires. So you excuse doesn't fly
>>96801686I mean you can chant and laud the badassery of a space marine all you want. A railgun will still rip their head off.
>>96801683They have defeated multiple hive fleets that were eating countless xenos civilizations. Although some fluff hints that the astronomicon is what lets the Tyranids find the galaxy so it’s a bit of column A and a bit of Column B
Imperiumfags whining about losing to the Tau are so sensitive; you never see nidfags complaining about the Tau somehow managing to adapt as fast as they do, or Necronfags complaining about losing to the fucking Kroot
>>96801688They weren’t in a full scale war with the Tau. A Tau fleet just encountered a group of them, it’s a cool short story but I can’t remember the name of it.
>>96801574Let's take the silly 1% number at face value. 1% of one million is ten thousand100% of one thousand is one thousandEven with that silly reach of a 1% productivity figure, which is nonsense, the imperium would still clap the shit out of the Tau by devoting serious attention to it.
>>96801501Not to mention that the Tau basically mass produce all of their best stuff while the Imperium doesn't. Battlesuits are stronger than Space Marines and there's probably billions of them compared to mere millions of Space Marines.
>>96801704>the imperium would still clap the shit out of the Tau by devoting serious attention to it.With what? They only have a million Space Marines total. Even if they were to use all of them against the Tau it wouldn't be enough.
>>96801680>HopesExodites>FearsHarlequins get squatted>Realistically what are we most likely to actually geta Kroot style partial army release for Exodites that gives you a lot of awesome models but still leaves you struggling to make 2,000 points of them work on the table
>>96801708What do the Tau do when an Elder demon freezes time and starts devouring their souls? This is an honest question from a newfag, how do they manage against the Warp/Psykers?
>>96801717Most of the imperium’s forces are guard, navy, etc. they don’t actually use space marines for much. It can be easy to forget that because they are the poster boys for 40k but the average imperium battle doesn’t involve them at all
>>96801680want? thousand sons second waverealistically? idk probably a grey knights refresh at best
>>96801730They are literally just the Navy Seals of the Military how do people not get this?
>>96801717Space marines aren't frontline soldiers, they're specialists. The imperium could drown the Tau in guardsmen, tanks, artillery and orbital bombardments. They don't because deleting a popular faction is stupid, and the forces required to do so are fighting factions that actually threaten the imperium.
>>96801696They really only beat Behemoth by themselves, Kraken was a joint effort with the Eldar and Leviathan hasn't been beaten yet
>>96801726>how do they manage against the Warp/Psykers?Depending on the situation they can either pull out their nicassar or they can just shoot them. Pyskers aren't immune to bullets, if they were Grey Knights would be the only thing the Imperium ever uses. As it stands Grey Knights are reserved for daemons because against material forces they're just somewhat above average space marines but hardly invinicible.
>>96801497>There's no way to make Christian Space Marines anything other than stupid.I don't disagree but...
>>96801730>Most of the imperium’s forces are guard, navy, etc.None of which fair well against a military force like the Tau. Napoleonic tactics are...not very good against a long range missile.
>>96801756based
>>96801737To be fair, when you gather space marine chapters together it expands their capabilities in an exponential rather than linear fashion. The legions from the heresy are examples of it. The issue with it is that the risk of a united legion falling to Chaos is too great, which is why Guilliman created the current chapter system
>>96801726There was a Tau vs Thousand Sons codex blurb that had them reverse engineer a Chaos scepter to create warp pulse rifles
>>96801762now that is interesting, showing that they are so powerful the risk of the teaming up and falling to Choas is too risky. I dunno where these Tau kids get their confidence but I do respect it.
>>96801406It's on my home PC but I literally have a screenshot of White Scars committing Perfidy against Tau diplomats
>>96801717the numbers are stupid and make no sense. if a chapter is really only 1000 units, then how do they get anything done when there are enemies in the billions>>96801737well they are called marines and not seals, and they act more like autonomous military units of knights, each with their own cultures and are more i guess being more like seals makes more sense considering we only have a few hundred active navy seals as opposed to having nearly 200k marines maybe marines should have more guards incorporated into their army as options for chaff or doing the work that limited amount of marines shouldn't do
Reminder that the recent Tau novel says they're planning to expand into Ultramar next. The blueberry showdown approaches
>>96801751Psykers can in fact be immune to bullets. That’s part of the issue with psykers, they can do magic that warps reality. Trying to shoot a truly powerful psyker is a jokeI realize you’re just baiting but the Tau don’t have experience with truly threatening psykers like alpha plus. Their population of humans is low so the odds haven’t favored one appearing, but they are *really* dangerous even if you have anti-psyker units like blanks. A single alpha plus psyker can destroy an entire planet, summon a bunch of greater daemons, twist the laws of physics. Also they’re almost all insane.That’s why the imperium has a short on sight policy for psykers beyond beta plus
>>96801783>then how do they get anything done when there are enemies in the billionsThey've got serfs to do all of that.
>>96801783>if a chapter is really only 1000 units, then how do they get anything done when there are enemies in the billionsThat is precisely why the Imperium is dying. Their only competent military force is incredibly rare.
>>96801789pffft, you know GW are gonna have our Boy Guilly lay down the law. They love that boy, he's their Golden Goose. Sorry Tau the pain train is comin and its got a power fist on the front of it.
>>96801657>The fact that they are keeping the nids and necrons at bay aloneEveryone in the setting is more or less doing this
>>96801620WIP I finally started in last week while remote. Going to count him as an Obliterator for 40k when he's done.
>>96801793The Tau have psykers. They've had them since the beginning of their empire with the Nicassar.
>>96801812The niqqas? Wtf?
>>96801805Where is the flesh, he’s not even on the right base too.
>>96801812Weak psykers, that’s my point. The difference between weak psykers and powerful psykers is vast. The emperor was “just” a psyker in 30k. It turns out that magic is op, who knew!
>>96801812The recent shadowsun novel with the Tauva stuff was something but the best part was the Nicassar not even using psychic powers to maul a Death Guard, she just manhandled him with her bear hands
>>96801822>Weak psykersEldar are weak psykers?
Ironically the tau baitfag might be the imperium baitfag from a few threads ago
>>96801822Yea no one even mentions the Emperor who is on the cusp of reincarnation, the fact that Tzeentch was greatly intrigued by his power and didn't know who he was screams volumes.
>>96801758Sure, until they run out of missiles, and another few million tanks are dropshipped in. With millions and millions more across the imperium. But why bother taking that attrition? Tau expansion was slow without good FTL and there are bigger problems. Eventually the Tau could become one of those big problems, but they aren't in current lore.>>96801783Marines don't generally sit in trench lines. They concentrate and strike in a small area of the front where they can do the most good, overwhelm it, then let the guard hold what they took. Or they hit behind the lines at commanders etc.
>>96801680>hopesDrukhari refresh with new models + grotesques back. Demons of chaos getting a codex>fears Drukhari get nothing and harlequins get squatted. More Marineslop while ignoring every faction>realistically Some new combat patrols/refresh for blood angels/fists/greys
>>96801721>pic related God why is this COCKSUCKER'S ART SO HARD TO FIND
>>96801828Eldar have to constrain their powers a lot because of Slaanesh. The Dark Eldar don’t use psyker powers at all. The one true rule in Comorragh is no space magic. There’s also no reason to think the Tau really understand the Eldar’s abilities and history since Eldar wouldn’t volunteer that info
>>96801837>ntil they run out of missiles, and another few million tanks are dropshipped inThe Tau can build missiles faster than the Imperium can build tanks. It's the nature of their empire that they're much more heavily industrialized than the Imperium is.
>>96801831I'll take bait if it's actually on topic, that's fine by me.
>>96801831I find this discussion intriguing and stimulating, I know its been rehashed over and over but it is an ongoing discussion that changes over time with lore.
>>96801805>imperial chest symbol>wrong base size
>>96801846Sure...but I'd hardly call the Eldar a psychically weak race. They have some pretty fucking powerful psykers.
The answer to any questions of Tau weakness against other factions is that the Kroot are overpowered and hit way above their weight class somehow.
>>96801860The Eldar aren’t part of the Tau empire Anyway given that the Tau freaked out and became genocidal over even a small amount of humans making the Greater Good into a god I can’t imagine they’ll deal with the psychic awakening all that well
>>96801860I find the Eldar are on the downtrend but I still view them as vastly superior to the Tau in terms of strength.
>>96801847Nope. 1% of one million is ten times higher than 100% of one thousand.
>>96801873It was one expansion sphere, they were chastised and the leaders seppuku'd. Based on Shadowsun's novel, they'll handle it better from now on
>>96801873>The Eldar aren’t part of the Tau empireCorrect. The Nicassar are. And you're calling them weak psykers based on...what information?
By joining the Tau, gue'vesa unlock the racial passive normally reserved for xenos, that they don't have to worry about Chaos corruption for their psykers anymore.
>>96801877Not if you have 1,000 times as much territory to defend.
the only reason the tau even still exist as a race is because no one takes them seriously enough to dedicate the time and resources to wipe them out. if they grabbed the full attention of any of the other factions especially chaos they would be gone in less than a thousand years and im being generous
>>96801817>>96801856They're on 50mm just like Oblits.Lorewise they're Phraetus Annointed, the suits are Daemon-powered and the bodies inside are more of less dead and being puppeted by the time the Warband reached 40k.And I'm not buying the Venomcrawler for two diaper-Oblits when I can get four Saturnine for the same price.
>>96801893And why would they have to defend that much territory from the measly Tau?
>>96801636The Mc of Exodite is a fem Tau
>>96801897OK but the Damocles Crusade was ordered by the High Lords themselves and the Administratum prepared it for almost a century, roping several space marine chapters in too. You can't not call that a serious effort, even if it's not their full attention
>>96801897This has always been Imperium cope. If the Imperium isn't taking the Tau seriously, why are they using up irreplaceable archaeotech weapons, entire Titan legions, and thousands of Space Marines fighting them?
>>96801907pics?
>>96801897This x1000 and I do not dislike the Tau, I find them to be the socialist asians of the setting which is a legitimate framing of real parts of our current world.
>>96801897Fem Fulgrim is canonically the traitor primarch most likely to be saved by the cock+handholding right
>>96801893Okay yes, so it's absolutely doable for the imperium, they just choose not to as stomping on the Tau would divert too much attention and resources from serious threats. We agree then. Also the Tau will absolutely become one of those serious threats one day as the imperium is too short-sighted to nip it in the bud. But that's a thousand years or so away unless the Tau collapse from warp fuckery in the meantime or something like that.
>>96801887They aren't human psykers, which is a valid assessment because the setting's shitty writing firmly establishes no one is really better than the imperium at anything
>>96801912>all it took to make a good tau novel was have an Asian guy write itpretty funny
>>96801912The Tau are really more fascist than socialist desu.
>>96801912This is bait
>>96801918I'd give it 200 years desu. Every time the Tau expand they always seem to triple in size, their growth is very much quadratic rather than linear.
Keep in mind that truly potent psykers are basically non-existent. Yes there are a lot in the imperium but that is because their population is so large that they roll the dice a lot. Most psychic races have some level of baseline strength but it’s low in all cases except for the Eldar, who are bioweapons. The Nicassar are like that they only really have telekinesis. Humans are weird because most of them are not psykers but humans are also capable of creating psykers that break the scale and become toon force in real space.Although the Psychic Awakening has changed things to some degree. Huge numbers of humans close to the eye of terror are becoming psykers. That more than anything is the thing that’s really fucking the galaxy over right now. People just gloss over the Age of Strife being mostly cussed by psykers not the Men of Iron
>>96801899Saturnine looks so good while the oblits look like such shit. Why is GW like this
>>96801937"The Greater good" is the ultimate Globalist blood sucking mongrel catchphrase.
>>96801291>The year's almost up, anything you're aiming to get done before 2026?Another tank for my CSMsAfter that probably just Gunpla and Necromunda for a while
>>96801951It's pretty much just a fascist slogan like "Blood and Soil"
>>96801336pink and blue is better
>>96801951I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you honest to god cannot breathe through your nose
>>96801970Idk what that comment means but I don't see where you dispute anything so I accept your concession
>Imperial guys in this thread misunderstanding the lore and coping about the Tau againThe Imperium cannot be wipe out the Tau because the Tau are too powerful and entrenched. It's not because the Imperium has better things to do. The Imperium in fact has sent more forces againt the Tau than they ever did against the Necrons pre-Pariah Nexus.Now with the Great Rift being a thing, the Imperium lacks any credibility when it comes to being a threat to the Tau.
>>96801905No, but they do have to defend it regardless. It's a Mutually Assured Destruction situation. They could take out the Tau, but they'd doom themselves to destruction in the process by everyone else invading them.
I wouldn't mind if Obliterators and Mutilators got retconned into being corrupted Saturine chaos termies
Tau are pretty warlike and honourbound, if you don't comply to their "requests" they will invade. They do shit like honor duels and trial by combat all the time, in Liber Xenology they turned a planet owned by Berserker dog people into a Gaza. They are more like Klingons and Mandalorians than peaceniksIt's just that when your competition are Waaaggghhh and incoherent Khorne babbling you come off as chill
>>96801620this is the only model I kept back from when I used to play 2nd/3rd edI used to have the original Nazdreg and a bunch of other 2nd ed orks, picked up this and used it as my OC donut steel Bad Moons warboss later when we moved to 3rd ed. Really wish I'd kept the others too
>>96801999This is a nice insight into Tau culture that I did not know, ty king.
>>96801978>You didn't dispute my nonsensical low IQ ramblings concession accepted
>>96801987A lot of it comes from the perception that because the Tau don't do melee, they're 'wimpy' and would just lie down and die if the Imperium ever decided to invade.
>>96801999Before the ethereal they were literally about to genocide each other into oblivion, fire caste are crazy
>>96802013You didn't even say anything to support your opinions you retard. In fact what is your opinion?
>>96801999>in Liber Xenology they turned a planet owned by Berserker dog people into a Gaza.I don't remember that, I need to re-read xenolkogy sometime>Berserker dog peopleSo a khornate xenos race?
Have they ever said what causes some humans to be born powerful psykers? Is it just random? It is based on how powerful souls are in the warp and as far as I can tell one of out every trillion humans is just born with freakish space wizard powers as an alpha plus
What should I play tomorrow? >Orks ft Stompa>Sisters or Guard ft knight. >Just say fuck it and pull out the Cerberus
>>96801987The imperium can't wipe out the tau because that hurts GWs bottom line, not because of any sensible military doctrine on either side. The imperium routinely pulls off ork levels of horseshit that enables them to punch way above their weight class so the tolau being entrenche, better equipped, and better trained doesn'tmean shit. If the tau weren't a model range they'd be gone
Posting again because I'm proud of it
>>96802062Very turgid and virile, anon. Well done.
>>96802018While the misconception is true, the Tau are still wimpy and lame
>>96802055Okay but "the Imperium has plot armor so they should be able to wipe out the Tau" is not a very compelling argument.
>>96802023You're underage
>>96802055Yes this. It’s pointless to debate power scaling events too hard because it’s all over the place. I’d say the only true powers on the galaxy are the Imperium, Tyranids, Necrons, and Chaos. Everyone else is just getting by. The Eldar could come back if certain things happened but they probably nether will in the lore
>>96802077Your detective skills are waning you fat doofus
>>96802055See >>96801688
>>96802090I mean that’s the actual objectively correct answer. That’s how GW makes decisions
>>96802080Another way to view it is which direction everyone is headed.The Eldar and Imperium are both declining.Tyranids, Necrons, Tau, Chaos, and Orks are all rising.
>>96802072It's not, but it's the reality of things.>>96802080>Tyranids, NecronsNot even, neither have ever won a meaningful victory over the imperium, both a just nebulous "major threats" that don't have any real bite, you can throw chaos into that pile too, although they did blow up Cadia and actually stepped foot on Tera
>>96802093No. It's a bad argument. GW wrote the reasons why the Imperium cannot wipe the Tau in the fluff and it's not your fan fiction.
>>96802101>neither have ever won a meaningful victory over the imperiumThe Silent King was able to bitchslap Guilliman fairly effortlessly.
>>96802107If you think they don’t create fluff to make money you are a very stupid person anon, I’m sorry. GW cares about money nothing else. The nonsensical fantasy end times happened because it didn’t sell well, that’s how all fluff is
>>96802111He's the Ultimate Mary Sue and I am a Necron player lol
>>96802080Tyranids win 40k with Orks in a distant 2nd
>>96802107>GW wrote the reasons why the Imperium cannot wipe the Tau in the fluffAnd those reason are stupid and don't make sense in the wider narrative, unless viewed with the understanding that tau sell enough to warrant existing
>>96802097That ain’t how Necrons are portrayed in their fluff. They’re dying out and every battle sees some lost forever while the dynasties feud over nonsense with no plan
>>96802114I swear to god I don't get this meme, why are they shouting "Bruh" why is there a non atratvie flat chested Wendys red head saying "bruh" again. Its just all so stupid..
>>96802131Yes but, for the moment, they're still a rising power as they're awakening much faster than they're losing stuff. Besides, the Necrons could just build infinite robots if they wanted to.
>>96802111Morty killed Guilliman and that still ended in a loss for him. That's the type of plot armor the entire setting is up against.
>>96802136The Necrons make the least sense to me, they conquered the Universe and have weapons that can delete solar systems and galaxies but they don't use them because scary! I love their Characters and art but man are they the ultimate unbeatables
>>96802140DESU if you take the established warp mechanics it’s not even plot armor. More miracles should be happening because there are so many humans that worship the emperor. If anything it not happening is plot amor because it would be dumb for the emperor to just deus ex machina everything
>>96802089No I'm right on the money
>>96802146Combination of being lazy, insane, weirdly honorable, and a lot of them still being asleep. Also they're all at each other's throats
>>96802152I am in my 30s u dumb ape
>>96802117You are neglecting something. GW since day one in fantasy said that Chaos was going to destroy the world and there is nothing that can be done abut it.Also, way to go missing the point.>>96802128>And those reason are stupid and don't make sense in the wider narrative,That's your opinion. They exist and they explain why the Imperium is unable to wipe out the Tau and it's not able lack of will and desire.
>>96802154Your IQ is in the 30s for sure
>>96802157 No your argument is just really stupid and based on nonsensical ideas like publicly traded companies not basing their decisions on trying to make the most money
>>96802163hardy har har, you're creating arguments out of thin air twerp.
>>96802157The reasons given don’t make sense out all unless you’re innumerate. For some tech the imperium is actually ahead of the tau, most critically in FTL. But that would hurt the bottom line so it can never happen so there are “reasons” it can’t or won’t, they don’t actually make sense
>>96802165It's not. GW wrote reasons why the Tau are too powerful for the Imperium to destroy, compared to hundreds of alien civilizations that they did wipe out.Rather than accept them and move on you cope and seethe and then go all meta on us.
>>96802157>They exist and they explain why the Imperium is unable to wipe out the TauBut like, they don't. The imperium has wiped out xenos empire just as if not more powerful than the tau, they've killed multitudes of godlike entities, diverted numerous resources to petty bullshit squabbles, and have a cornucopia of various super dudes at their disposal
>>96802173Again, it's a matter of your opinion. Your misinformed opinion. The technology of the Imperium is ahead of the Tau is rare.The Tau live in a hypercluster of stars where systems are tightly packed. Their STL drives can cross the distance between systems in months. This has been the same line of text since 3rd edition.It's now reported that the Tau have perfected their FTL Warp Drives
>>96802198Imagine thinking GW are writing the Tau to be some sort of superior successor to the Imperium lmao............
>>96802169Why is it that every retard that thinks tau are socialist globalist, aren't just standard retards but terminally retarded
>>96802202Why not? The Tau are in their Golden Age phase. Their cities more closely resemble something you'd see out of the Dark Age of Technology than anything the Imperium has.
>>96802190Not the 40K Imperium.For example, Craftworlds are slow as shit and easy to track. The Imperium can easily attack craftworlds, but the Imperium chooses not to because even a minor (and intact) craftworld presents a daunting target for the Imperial armies.> diverted numerous resources to petty bullshit squabbles,Like the Second Agrellan campaign, which was launched to avenge the Raven Guard chapter master? I want you to look up a conflict the same size as that one in the lore.
>>96802202Where did that come from?>>96802212Why are you replying to a non-sequitur directed at me?
>>96802210Lets not get into personal insults just because your more closely related to neanderthals than homo sapiens. >>96802212The Tau have not proven themselves to be at the same level as the Imperium/Necrons/Eldar. You pretending they have is pathetic. Humble yourself anon.
>>96802216>The Imperium can easily attack craftworlds, but the Imperium chooses not toAnd yet we have multiple instances of a small group of marines butchering and destroying entire craftworlds
>>96802230>The Tau have not proven themselves to be at the same level as the Imperium/Necrons/Eldar. You pretending they have is pathetic. Humble yourself anon.Actually, GW said that the Tau have reached the status of a major power in the galaxy recently in about half a dozen sources.
Is there any way to get a 'clean' Tech Marine chest like the one in the Repulsor Executioner without buying the tank?
>>96802236One canonical.And it was a minor craftworld crippled by Hive Fleet Naga and attacked by an entire chapter.
>>96802240Holy shit I am a newfag and even I am stunned at the level of delusion Taufags have reached.
>>96802230>yourYou ARE underage
>>96802230>The Tau have not proven themselves to be at the same level as the Imperium/Necrons/EldarGrouping the Imperium in the same group as the Necrons and Eldar is laughable, the Imperium is way below those two.
>>96802250In other words, you are a tourist who just interacts with 40K through memes.While I am citing sources.
>>96801539I wouldn't say they're doomed. They don't have to destroy the Imperium to win, they just have to not be destroyed with the current trajectory the Imperium is on. And it's doubtful with the state of the galaxy and its current players, they'll ever reach the same height as either the Imperium or the Eldar. But they are not as hopeless as some people say.
>>96802212>The Tau are in their Golden Age phase.Tau are currently undergoing a three-way schism between Anti-Ethereal Separatists (Farsight), Pro-Religion Progressives (Shadowsun), and Anti-Religion Pro-Ethereal Fundamentalists (Kais and Aun'va)The T'au Empire is on the verge of collapse less then 5,000 yeard from their emergence as a power.
>>96802260>>96801539Phil Kelly said on the official GW podcast that the Tau will ascend and take over the galaxy if given enough time. Also, they will invent solutions to Chaos and perhaps even the Tyranids
>>96801737Because they're the poster boys of the setting, the game is a war game, they use tanks and other heavy armor. And a big chunky dude in armor tends to not suggest surgical strikes.
>>96802267Aun'va is dead and has been for quite some time and Kais is a dude in a box they sometimes throw at their while Farsight is pretty much stuck on the same 4 planets forever.
>>96802252The Imperium is the largest Empire in galactic history and is currently wiping ouy every xenos threat they come across, including the Eldar and Necrons.
>>96802251I use "your" instead of "you're" in every instance because we here on 40kg have evolved beyond basic grammar conservatism and into a more liberal use of our language. We value efficiency over some aspects of grammar law because everyone here is beyond reddit speak.
The reason for the big divide usually just comes down to the fact that, unless you're a Tau player, you're probably not up to date with what's going on with the Tau, so people tend to associate the Tau with the same Empire that we saw in the Damocles Crusade that had like 20 planets and no big mechs and no dedicated warfleet.
>>96802267You discredited yourself with your fanfiction. Aun'Va, when he is alive and as a digital ghost, was okay with religion. The Council of the Highest, in which he is the leading member, has sanctioned projecting to develop the Tau's own faith powers.There is no current lore of any schism within the Tau. The Farsight Enclaves and the Tau Empire are not interested in civil war. They steer clear of each other.
>>96802282>and is currently wiping ouy every xenos threat they come acrossSounds like the Tau must be stronger than the Necrons and Eldar then since the Imperium isn't managing to wipe them out at all.
>>96802302So you think the Tau are on par with the Necrons/Eldar? Seriously?
>>96802308You said it, not me.
>>96802292>the Tau with the same Empire that we saw in the Damocles Crusade that had like 20 planets and no big mechs and no dedicated warfleet.75 planets spreading over nearly 20 systems/septs. And they did have a fleet. The Merchant Fleet. That was their size in 3rd edition.If you are a Tau player, you should be ashamed.
>>96802308The T'au are on par with a number of Necron dynasties. Some dynasties were destroyed by less than what the Tau endured from the Imperium.
>>96801783I've heard the numbers thing doesn't apply to pilots or tank drivers. It also probably doesn't count chapter serfs or other non-military personnel.Plus guard regiments are frequently deployed in conjunction.
>>96802314That's my point though. Most players remember 20 planets, not 20 septs. And they don't even know about the 3rd Sphere Expansion, let alone the development of the Kororvesh. Hell, your average Imperium player doesn't even know the Stormsurge exists.
>>96802244you can get the exact piece but you'll have to pay for a bunch of misc tank bits
>>96802325You could walk into 100 LGSs on Warhammer Tourny night and poll everyone there asking them is they think the Tau are more powerful than the Necrons/Imperium/Eldar and nearly 100% would say no.
>>96802135Because Chaos says "Bruh"
Are you:>Grimmdumb fanImperium is litrally bleeding itself out everywhere possible>Grimmdark fanImperium tries to survive and ignores nonthreats that would require more resources than they can gain
>>96802358Neither.The Imperium is regaining momentum and smashing the minor xenos threats to focus more on Chaos as the true antagonists.
>>96802366>Smashing the minor xenos threatsIs that what you call losing your fleet to the Silent King?
>>96802371The Pariah Nexus was neutralized and no longer poses a major threat.
>>96802025No. Just a rival alien civilization. Took drugs to get feel no pain, used hard projectile rifles like Kroot
>>96802344I guessed that was going to be the only way outside of buying the whole tank.
Can I get a game posted? Damn man sometimes I feel like I'm the only one.
>>96802380It has very much not been neutralized.
In terms of overall power, with imperium being 100 (but incredibly diffused and usually unable to quickly concentrate enough power without tradeoffs.)Nids entire species 40,000 and rising rapidly (hence the title) but each Hive Fleet (which is but a splinter) is maybe like a 40Orks: fluctuate from miniscule threat to 20-40. Lots and lots of upside and concentrated power but huge vulnerability because it'll depend on a single, killable leader.Necrons 15 and rising : a lot of the same problems as orks in terms of concentration and infighting and Tyranids in terms of lack of full dynastic power.Chaos 666 and rising but imperium most black crusades are like a 25 lots of power, even more stupid infighting that is arguably more insurmountable than orc bullshit.Eldar 2 and falling from super max.Drukhari 3 (commoragh effectively invulnerable but pose minimal threat) mostly nuisance tier because they can't unite to do anything. More bodies than eldar so mostly tread waterTau 10 and risingVotann 5 and falling idk enough about these dudes
Do you think GW would ever pull a stunner like having the Necrons outta nowhere pull out the Galaxy destroyer and just delete the Tau? It seems absurd but it would add a nice element of surprise to the lore.
>>96802420Yeah that's something that doesn't get touched on enough I think. Everybody is fucking infighting. The Tau have the least infighting and the Orks have the most, with the Imperium and Necrons somewhere in the middle.
There are many GREAT things about the Imperium, and despite what some people may claim, even some who have allegedly had a hand in its lore, the Imperium in 40k is no cautionary tale. Things that plague the modern leftist societies, such as sexism, racism, and homophobia, are non-issues in the Imperium. Technological advancement is at the forefront. Rather than individualistic hedonism *coughs and looks at Aeldari jews* the Imperium strives towards racial and mental purity, with its eye on the WHOLE. Sure, maybe life sucks for those at the bottom, but if its the life they earned and its all they know and their ancestors have known for so long, it's probably not all that bad. A society that cares what the dregs think is a WEAK and DEGENERATE society. The MILITARISM and IRON WILL of the Imperium literally oozes from its being, and it faces down any xenos degenerates and chaos subhumans who challenge it, no matter who or what they are. Honor, courage, and devotion are rewarded, and the society follows a strict hierarchy.So... dare I say it...The Imperium is no cautionary tale of what to avoid, but largely a tale of something to STRIVE FOR!
>>96802450Unironically
>>96802427Imagine getting on the teams call with your primary investors and telling them you deleted a whole chunk of revenue and the vehicle for your Asian markets push, as a joke.
>>96802450>Technological advancement is at the forefrontlollmao even
>>96802460It doesn't mean anything, they can still supply new models and sculpts based on "prior knowledge" from the factions.
>>96801620 my minis on both sides from a recent skirmish
>>96802342Don't you mean the Supremacy armor?
>>96802473Very "Kino" as they say.
>>96802473
>>96802475I'd say the Stormsurge armor is more impressive desu. Supremacy armor is really big of course but Stormsurge is designed to be a Titan-killer in a Knight-sized body which is more efficient.
>>96802473That Guardsman is looking very confident for a man about to be punched into jelly
>>96802485
>>96802492hes sure to win because of his superior speed
>>96802492He won. He fucking won the melee. He killed the terminator. I'm unironically making a tiny medal to add to him.
Do you guys actually play the game?
>>96802491I mean, Knights are a Titan killer in a Knight-sized body too; volcano lances are considered anti Titan weaponry
>>96802502Do you?
>>96802494Last one. I love how Steel Legion guys look on a table
>>96802502I wish
>>96802500Extremely kino.
>>96801620Postan
>>96802523I don't even know what I'm lookin at here..
>>96802504Either way though, where the Tau really shine imo is more their everyday stuff rather than the most advanced stuff. It's the simple things, like BVR targeting, air filtration, higher quality construction materials, high-resolution holograms that don't flicker, etc. Those small everyday technologies that the Imperium just has lost the ability to produce.
>>96802523Is that unironically a Bionicle mask in there?
>>96801620Just 10 of them with a battle leader works really well
>>96802528>>96802537how new are you
>>96802538Good shit Wolfbro, keep on dominating AWHOOOO!!!!!
>>96802547kys decalmutant
>>96802535Fair enough.I wish the Tau had some more melee options; being a one phase army is the biggest thing keeping me from collecting them, that and the battlesuit thing being a close second. I love Hammerheads, remind me of AATs from Star Wars. Would love to field an army of melee battlesuits with hammerhead support
>>96802542Fairness to them, Ambots are both niche and ugly as fuck.
>>96802552You're really outta your mind dude.
>>96802542Oh, it's necromunda. I don't like underhive stuff, so I don't pay any attention to it. Sewers and gang wars are too mundane and a waste of the novel setting IMO.
>>96802403Blubangelsanon dropped a battle report yesterday and sallyanon too
>>96802494What is that robot?
>>96802528>>96802537It's a necromunda ambot I'm gonna be using them in agents as servitors or something>>96802560>ugly as fuck.Horrendous taste detected, dispensing (you)
>>96802603Reaper minis armor suit. It's a proxy for an Ogryn.
>>96802624Neat
>>96801620
Hey, remember those dumb fuck physics troll comics?With the way Orks used to work with their whole "We believe it works that way so it does" reality alteration bullshit, would Orks be capable of actually pulling off troll physics nonsense?
>>96802631Has anyone ever told you that your bases look like dad's oatmeal cookies
>>96802542it does kinda look like it's being piloted by one of these
>put down pre-order for Terminator Box at LGS>”Okay but there’s two guys in front of you, and we don’t know how many we’ll get,”Would be wild considering this place got at least 15 Space Wolves army boxes lmao.
>>96802670He was trying to tell you that the two guys in front of you ordered all 15 and you wouldn't be getting one. Otherwise he wouldn't have warned you at all
>>96801620working on a squad of shield custodes
>>96802656it's supposed to look dry so that works
>>96802651No, Ork science actually works, it's just that they personally don't understand it, the knowledge simply possesses them the more orks are around. A large enough WAAAGH will have Meks find ways to turn scrap into super force fields by sheer instinct, not make cardboard tubes shoot tank shells by making tank noises.
>>96802685It wasn't an insult towards anything but dad's cookies. I was just talking about the colour
WTF was GW smoking when they designed the sprues for the Ballistus dread vs the Brutalis dread? I already have 2 Ballistus dreads in my BA army but got the Brutalis model to make my DC dread and holy fuck the sprues are night and day. Ballistus had like 30 pieces that all snapped together. Brutalis has 100+ and requires half a bottle of glue. They’re both similar models besides the weapon loadouts, why do they need to be so fucking different? Fuck, the Brutalis even has one foot that’s entirely assembled and another you need to build. The fuck is the point of that? Also, I absolutely despise when they make you glue parts that are supposed to move around another part.Pic related kinda, my Bastillus. I’m still new to painting. These aren’t completely finished yet, but I was trying out some contrasts and shades.
>>96802686Wait, so painting stuff red doesn't make it go faster?
>>96802703>i was trying out some contrasts and shades.Where? Like not on that model? Cause that shade has no shading, and I don't see it anywhere else either
>>96802679>we have two custodes posters now neat
>>96802719It does. Their mental magic is more like oil, it just smoothes things out. An Ork gun on a humans hands has bullets too big and parts too loose but that's where their mind magic helps out. Its like their vehicles running on whatever fuel the Orks make, Orks still have to refine fuel but regardless if it's diesel, Prometheus or natgas it works.
I love my big red wife magnus the red
>>96802751Stop ban avoiding you slop lover
>>96802728Citadel Reds don't contrast for shit. Its honestly baffling how shit some of their contrast paints are compared to everyone else and they still get rated as some of the better contrast paints to use. Madness.
>>96802771I mean I don't see shades there either
>>96802703Are the dreadnought torsos compatible? Like can you swap the brutalis torso with the ballistus for a bit more pose variety. I dont know how monopose the brutalis or redemptor are. I've only built the balldreadAlso to answer your question, it's because starter set kits are simplistic monopose models, and some are just repacked into separate kits. The ballistus is one such kit and because they only gave it a single weapon loadout there was no such need to give it a full kit. Also, it's not a bad thing for a kit to have options. The real shitshow is that the kit is absurdly priced for how simplistic it is.
>>96802771I like Fleshtearer red, it's my go to red for armorBaal Red is trash though, comes off too light like pink
>>96802801Disgusting AI filth, you should be banned. Nice tits tho.
>>96802771>>96802802Also a big fan of fleshtearers red. Its a very nice dark red that is easy to highlight on and make it pop. + it doubles as blood in a pinch too
>>96802819Put your trip back on
>>96802833So you can harass me in private? I don't think so creep.
>>96802840>privateyou're a real fucking retard you know that subhuman?
>>96802845>Uh oh Schizo melty!Am I doin it right freako?
>>96802855No, you really aren'tbraindead tourist
>>96801620I know I posted this guy last thread but I really enjoy a lot how he turned out. Its got a nice combo of colors I havent tried before but that I feel ended up working nicely.
>>96802840I was enjoying not seeing you I didn't interact with you or anyone responding to you once while you had it on, it was nice.
>>96802863XD busted you didn't I you little twerp
>>96802870You aren't nearly as intelligent as you think you areterminally online subhuman
Stooooooooop. Fuck sake
>>96801657Your arguing with a guy who thinks a typical fire warrior sgt. beats a space marine captain
should i play blood angels or space wolves. Im leaning towards blood angels but i dont want to miss out if they release leman russ
>>96802896I want a tiny mechanicat that won't die if I feed it paskettis
>>96802899Bangels.
>>96802899I love Blood Angels as much as the next guy but Wolves are currently the face of the Imperium and yes Leman is scheduled to arrive soon.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96802899Do you want dogs or jump-packs more
>>96802801kys kys kys kys
>>96802621Wait so random underhive scum know enough about ambulls, a very dangerous creature that are like space antbears, and know enough about robotics to make a mecha version of them? If underhive scum can do that then the admech should be shitting out robots/cyborgs that are as strong as astartes
>>96802931It's more like they heard about giant bugs digging into hive blocks from underneath and shredding everything inside and went hmmm we could make a robot that does that. Similar to how we looked at birds and then spent thousands of years jumping off cliffs with palm fronds before we came up with planes. As far as I know the ambots are expensive because they're mining equipment, so they need to be doing something that makes them more credits than mining for it to be worth bringing them out
>>96802896Not a captain but a squad of fire warriors can certainly take down a single Space Marine and there's a hell of a lot more Fire Warriors than there are Space Marines.
>>96802952>Similar to how we looked at birds and then spent thousands of years jumping off cliffs with palm fronds before we came up with planes. I get your point but this made me realise something. Are there birds on Hiveworlds? You'd think they'd be carrion crows for the millions of people who die a day, but they all get taken and turned into corpse-starch. They can't live outside the hive because its basically a polluted irradiated hellhole. Are there just no birds?
>>96802931Tbf the planet does have a working stl sorta
>>96802972>>96802896>power scale autismYou're both faggots
>>96802975If there's rats I refuse to believe there aren't rats with wings. That said its entirely possible that they are literally rats with wings
>>96802979Honestly at the end of the day the appeal of the Tau is that they're not supersoldiers or magic wizards like the Imperium. They're just common soldiers fighting back against the horrors that would destroy them given the chance. Against all the horrors of the universe, without any glamour or glory, they hold the line.
>>96802988>That said its entirely possible that they are literally rats with wingsSo they would be more like bats but without sonar. Maybe thats the animals the nightlords are emulating, bat-winged rats bing a common sight on every hiveworld so hivescum get it when NightLords come
>>96802989Sure, and you're still a faggot for going >uhhmmm my ayylmao space man's can always beat your normal space mans because wordswordswordsautisticwordsAnd you'd be just as much of a faggot for going>uhhmmm my normal space man's can always beat your ayylmao space mans because wordswordswordsautisticwords
>>96802914I like jump packs more but having a primarch would be nice against my opponents demon primarchs
>>96802975>You'd think they'd be carrion crows for the millions of people who die a day, but they all get taken and turned into corpse-starchI'm sure there are plenty of corpses still lying around. No one ever accused a hive world of peak efficiency>They can't live outside the hive because its basically a polluted irradiated hellholeSome probably adapted, though they're probably pretty ugly
>go to hobbyshop to get basing item>they don't have it so I have to go to amazon>fast forward a week later and the item that was supposed to be next day still hasn't shippedI'm seething
>>96803020People would call that a negative, but more power to you. My Fulgrim got beat to death by a pack of Wulfen because he's fucking useless.
>>96803010No clue. I don't read black library and I don't read wikis. I just made a funny joke about rats with wings. Theres nothing ive read pointing towards rats with wings. It was a funny joke
>>96803026What on earth could possibly need for basing that you have to buy it from a store
>>96803033I knew you were joking anon, I was just saying you're joke does actually fit into the setting with a little effort lol
>>96803030You don't have a fulgrim, nobody plays ec
>>96803041I'm sorry I'm autistic and I'm used to people not picking up when I'm joking
>>96803042I sold most of my EC so you're technically right. If you wanna be a funny faggot and ask further, I can go get the half-painted Noise Marines I have yet to sell.
>>96803038basing mud? lmaonot all of us are spergs who'll go down to the beach for sand and bake dirt in the their oven. some of us want something that just works
>>96801805You should shave off the aquila tho, otherwise seems like a decent proxy.
>>96801991The old obliterators look nothing like saturnine, the pads are all wrong and the weapons do not match.
>>96802801>>96802751Why are you such a coomer anon? Take a break buddy ur dopamine is fried.
If the new Dark Heresy CRPG doesn't have a romanceable Sister of Battle it's automatically shit
>>96803072This shit fucking sucks
>>96803110I know you miss your thread crush but you need to stop leaping at shadows
>>96803110Feeding trolls is retarded, but just for you:Post models, fagboy.
>sit down to paint>get that “what am I doing with my life” feeling>can’t paintAnybody had this problem? How did you overcome it?
>>96803129Yep. The way you overcome is by painting anyways
>>96803120He doesn't have any, you're talking to the resident schizo who's been accusing people at random of being edgecoc
>>96803120i don't have any models
>>96803115I don't know who you're talking about or who you think I am>>96803120I don't need to post my models to call missed mouldlines and messy basecoats shit
>>96803136I try it just comes a slog and I can’t really get cozy. I used to be able to enjoy painting a lot whenever time and circumstances permitted painting.
>>96803140I know, I know. I'm just bored and it's fun to do stupid things now and then.
>>96803146You don't try to paint when you're trying to overcome painters block. You just paint. There's no try. Put the paint on your palette and set a goal for the session. Don't stop until you complete the goal. You need to experience the fulfillment of completion. Right now by starting and stopping you are just making things worse by prolonging that fulfillment as well as adding in the bad feels of all those times you sat down and didn't do anything
>>96803140>everyone I don't like is the same personNta but isn't this a dangerous/ironic narrative to follow particularly when you're saying he's doing the same
>>96801805>God I couldn't possibly spend 3 minutes scraping the Aquila off for my chaos infested flesh mass counts as. Lame. Silver could use another coat too
>>96802913im genuinely curious. Will Age of sigmar, the old world, or drukhari, see ANY substantial amount of kits for their dark elves?
>>96803146Do you have other hobbies? You need more than one.
>>96803198Aos has shadow elves that have been hinted since 1ed, so probably. Also their witch elves have been expanded to be a pretty good size range these days
>>96803086The current obliterators are corrupted centurions
We know what Kyn and Kroot are, we have a rought idea what Tarellians are (dog soliders but they're actually lizardmen/kroxigors from AoS) and then there's the new Dvorgite race. >They are ferocious creatures whose blood-parties have come into conflict with other space faring races, including Craftworld AeldariWhat do you think they could look like. I bet they still have a humanoid body structure
>>96803086Yes I know that's why I said 'retconned'
>>96801680>what are your hopesAny new sculpts will look good and have better assembly than some in recent years where parts don't marry thanks to having no interlocking and too many hidden details are begging for subassembly paintjobs even though that's infeasible. Yes I build Guard.Basically asking for the bare minimum of a model painting hobby company.>and fears for 11th ed?Enshittification like image related and continued internet wars because of actions GW decides to take.>>hey I think this revision of "and they shall know no fear" was wrong>try and man up>plastic toys are stupid>there are women in the imperium too>you're pathetic>this change is meaningless, which is why I'm incredibly offended you want it reversed>they wanted to make it more medieval sounding so needed to replace those words [which is why the medieval word mankind is now the 21st century word humankind...]>pissbaby>sexist>he was getting off on how gay the original writing was with men, muscles and guns, and now can't, what a shame!I half expected "You're a virgin/incel".The first and only reddit thread I can find on an apparent change to one of the two big 40K quotes and it's just filled with this. I clicked on one username and it's literally a satire on a discord whore trannie who goes online to talk about sex toys and JK Rowling, at the same time, if not his over the counter HRT or sharing URLs to [banned show] porn images (I thought that fandom was dead in the water). And yes this was his first foray into not only a Warhammer sub but anything to do with plastic minis, as if asking for discord raid conspiracies to look justified.I did not look at others posting for I'd be more depressed if I see any more of the same degeneracy, coordinated action, or something I can't imagine.If all online spaces for 40K are policed in favour of this shit then that's the hobby's direction when the average writer and sculptor at GW lives more online than offline like anyone <40 these days.
>>96803038plasticard
>>96803283>so mad about losing an argument on reddit he makes this postvery embarrassing tbqh
>>96803038Believe it or not anon not everybody does sand and gravel and a lazy drybrushing for their basing
>>96803297Thank you anon, your joke is helping me to be less angry about a cock cage shock collar discord troon telling others what 40K should beI'm not being sarcastic <3
>>96801470I think the general consensus these days is that they're Inca/general mezoamerican themed.
its scary how small the internet is sometimes. I know more of you anons personally than I realize.
>>96802500Nigga has Main Character syndrome
>>96801915Too much of the cock would just make her fall faster
how come nobody uses these cute lil spiders? 12 S6 AP-1 D2 shots and a bit of melee as well, only 110 points and they're pretty tanky, and they're really fast too, 12'' movementin soulforged warpack they can do some silly stuff when suddenly it's 12 S8 AP-2 D2 sustained hits +1 to wound shots
>>96803414ugly. Not really fun to paint. fiddly. demon engines are a failed concept desu.
>>96801910Because that is just regular tuesday for the Imperium?
>>96803414What do you mean? People actually do use them sometimes.
>>96803437forgefiends and DG daemon engines are all very popular, they're a mixed bag.
>>96802283Peak retarded cope, literal nigger brained reasoning
This thread fucking sucks.
>>96803574You suck
>>96803414I use mine sometimes, they're pretty decentAP-1 makes them a bit liable to bounce off harder targets but 12 shots makes up for it somewhat
>>96803437ThisYou'd want to use contrasts and shades on that but then one wrong brush flick and... you can't fix it
>>96803205>corruptedYou're missing an important detail
>>96803376You'd deny knowing me.
>>96803376It's just niche hobbies these days funneling people towards a handful of big sites and all of us are guilty for browsing a little too long from time to time, so we're seeing more painted miniatures than any era before
>>96803376I always tell people if they recognize me from the few times I post my models that they should tell me to my face. I'll buy a pot of Nuln Oil and drink it on the spot.
>>96803297Literally his entire account is contrarian takes on warhammer, complaining about his tesla and complaining about transpeople lmao
>>96803624Average elon musk fan lmao
>>96803624Which account?
>>96803283If you feel like your masculity is under attack because a toy company adds women to s previously male only faction, you should probably check your life priorities.
>>96803414I always liked this guy cause he reminded me of the thing from the gears of War 1 trailerhttps://youtu.be/wy8LRlS1SCc?si=tlezqbwmrW86-HLQ
>>96803644The one with the negative karma
>>96803646Truly funny seeing people claim they feel like less of a man when women are included. Not even slightly surprising from a nerd hobby like warhammer or a place like this however.
>>96803663So we have a warhammer reddit thread where someone anti-trans with a tesla car is battling trans people who brag about their chastity cages and shock collarsThere's nothing worth saving there and it all should be destroyed, right?
>>96803283>picCritical Roll was truly a disaster for tabletop games, where do these freaks come from? lmfao
>>96803672Right-wing warrior with a tesla fights with a hasanfag trannie about GW replacing the word "guns" with the word "weapons" in the old quote.How did it come to this?
>>96803692Culture warriors of both types are fucking annoying. I just want to roll dice and have a beer
>>96803682>where do these freaks come from? lmfaoNot from their crushed dicksWahey!
>>96803692The last decade has been a mistake.
>>96803283I don't even know or care which quote you're talking about. I don't even think about Imperium or h*manoid problems. Skill issue. Skill issue. Skill issue.
Remember that in their existence harlies were most broken in 3rd ed.
>>96803696This. So tiring having everything and anything turned into some culture war shitfest. I just like cool spacemen. The space girls are cool too. Also orks. And nids. And necrons. And tau. And space elves. And robots. And daemons. People should talk more about those bits and not all the boring shit we deal with in our daily lives.
>>96803710>dispersed formationit'd be cool if some armies toyed with larger unit coherency ranges in modern 40k
>>96803283Nta but why do these reddit comments sound exactly like some faggots here on /40kg/?
I just realized I cheated a friend yesterday. I rolled 8 in a charge, and placed my mini in a way that I could pile in to tag another unit (a big spoopy tank) because I forgot you are forced to base if your charge is enough to do so. Fuck.
>>96803725To a point so many units moving to 32mm bases allow for that.
>>96803283>gets called feminine by a caged fag>proves him wrong by digging up dirt on him and gossiping about it on a Norwegian fly fishing forumDamn dude you got him
>>96803722>I just like cool spacemen.We prefer the term spacepeople. If you disagree you're sexist and erasing history. There have always been spacepeople. Stop bitching. You're the problem.>but I said the space girls are cool too.I'm sorry anon, this is a line in the sand, we can have the existing girl factions but we cannot have boy factions anymore because it's exclusionary. Now repeat Ze Party's oath of allegiance. Heil. Heil.
>>96803743>You're the problem.Yes and i'm making it yours as well.
>>96803743I think sisters count as space girls. They're girls in space
>>96803731Buy him lunch and have a laugh about it
>>96803770You forgot about the Adeptus Custodes
>>96803775Ye, them too
>>96803743If you didnt live terminally online looking for fights you'd see that even in wokest of places people don't really bother erm-correcting someones minute-to-minute speech like you're trying to exaggerate here>we can have the existing girl factions but we cannot have boy factions anymore because it's exclusionaryMost people would argue for Misters of Battle too in a sense of expanding upon Frateris Militia and Ministorum priests, so idk what point you're trying to make hereAlso even when it comes to unsavoury people, most of them argue for girl marines from a misguided position of "marines are face of the setting so there should be girls too", not that its a "boy faction". If by some chance marines were all women by default/sisters were the face of the setting then people would beg for boy flavour as well, its a misplaced main character syndrome thing and less so some inane gender thing you fantasized
>>96803743>but we cannot have boy factions anymore because it's exclusionary.>we need our own safe spaceKinda gay bro.
>>96803731Give him a cheaters dice for your next game. He picks a number on a d6 at the beginning of the game and once per game he can replace a rolled dice of his choosing, including yours. This is also every funny to do with both players having 6 cheaters dice that they pick at the beginning of the game and deciding whether to use them on making their own guys make crazy rolls or make their opponent fail something hilarious.
>>96803595Skill issue. We don't paint chaos because it's easy, we paint chaos because it's a good pain.
>>96803809>>96803809
>>96803796>If by some chance marines were all women by default/sisters were the face of the setting then people would beg for boy flavour as wellNot that guy but can you name any example of this ever happening? Across any medium.
>>96803814>goonerslop>page 7>not even close to image limit
>>96803814I like this op. Join me friends, in the new world
>>96803817That would require me to have insight & familiarity with primarily girl-oriented media, which I do not possess, but you definitely can't have much Barbie without Ken, Bratz dolls, girly lego sets etc. Obviously a lot of male interests in various soap dramas and novels and the suchThere also may be case to be made how typically "boy media" is in reality more unisex than "girl media", which I don't think is anything we could simply even pick apart. And to boot there is some evidence in this mixed media with LoL that girls overwhelmingly prefer to play as girls while boys pick both. Unsure how much that holds up when it comes to /tg/ stuff, its a different set of media to begin withAnother case to be made is just more women have been recently interested in boy or mixed gender media and I think this is less applicable to boys showing interest in typically girl media, at least the type of media thats social interaction-based, because men presenting more femme has also been on the upsurge. And so there is less social uproar about boys doing feminine stuff because a chunk of it is performed more solitary and thus less socially "visible"
>>96803865Dios mio, mucho texto autismo
>>96803796>even in wokest of places people don't really bother erm-correcting someones minute-to-minute speech like you're trying to exaggerate hereThey really do. You're either being disingenuous or you need to visit some of these places.Self censorship is real because of it.>Most people would argue for Misters of Battle too>people would beg for boy flavour as wellThis is one of the problems. "I actually agree with X because we should have Y too".Why can't I have tyranids in my ork army?No-one is asking for boy flavours of Hello Kitty. I'm sorry that you're trying to say "It doesnt' matter. I don't care. No really I don't." whilst typing out a paragraph about it.I didn't look for fights. The fights came to my board game.
>>96801726Same thing the Ultramarines did in Space Marine 2 against Thousand Sons. Calgar literally 1v1'd a Greater Daemon by shopting it and standing still and using an energy shield to tank the blasts. Tau can do the same. I thought it was retarded but apparently that's how it is.
>>96801803No one is really keeping Necrons at bay. The last Dawn of Fire novel revealed that they can destroy everyone wherever they wish. They just don't want to because they need test subjects and again it may require a lot of souls to ascend so they need everyone alive.
>>96803211Kroot use Dvorgite weapon. It's that one on the right, pink one. So they are probably humanoid. Weapon doesn't remind me of any classic sci fi race in particular. On other hand Londaxi Tribalest may indicate them being Wookie like. Those guys use scifi Crossbows too
>>96804064The worst quality of the Black Library reader is to take ever bit of wank and integrate it with suredness of fact. Really put on your thinking cap for a second, if all they need is test subjects why can't they just keep Truman Show style colonies under their thumb after eliminating the irritation, if it were so easy? The answer is because the point of the setting is to sell toys.The tyranids can make acids and diseases so aggressive and virulent, according to fiction that means to portray them powerfully, that they can eat through power armor and choke plague marines to death. They could semply send assassin fleets of acid gaunt bombs to every tomb world. So my super laser beats your laser shield and it is me who could destroy you at a whim (I choose not to because I am savoring the flavor of my lunch).
>>96801307Do you think they'll ever spin another Chapter off into its own Codex?
>>96801406This world was promised to us 30,000 years ago.
I was going to get serious about my Ork and DEldar armies until I saw the new Norsca shit coming for ToW.
>>96801406The ancestral AI says shortstack = good, blueberry = bad.
