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SIGMAR IS A PILE OF BONES edition

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>TOW:
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>Warhammer Chronicles:
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>Previous Thread:
>>96800657

>TQ:
Which piece of the Warhammer Fantasy world do you hope is expanded upon in the future?
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First for Beastmen propaganda.
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>>96809205
>Which piece of the Warhammer Fantasy world do you hope is expanded upon in the future?
Beastman
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>>96809205
Human Warrior Priest of different gods, not just Sigmar and Ulric
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>TQ
Kislev and Araby, maybe some special O&G terrain and characters for the Badlands.
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>Love the idea of painting some heroic and beautiful models and playing as the good guy
>Always get bored and paint a bunch of run down, decaying and stinky bad guys instead because it's more fun in practice
One of these days I'll have a High Elf army, honest.
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>>96809205
>>96809205
TQ: MARIENBURG WHEN, will it be any good?
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>>96809248
Friend have you stopped to consider you may in fact BE a beastman?
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>>96809252
The new Marianburg book will come out after WFRP5e comes out apparently
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>>96808982
Eh, I disagree. I run 8 centigors and the 1/6 lower speed usually doesn't matter much since they're usually within 3 inches of the enemy ass and can at minimum get into a flank if they roll low or say fuck it and charge. And if they hit frenzy they get the WS4, S6 AP2 A2 profile into a flank most of the time. I've only ever once lost the combat on that charge. Plus I try to get a pig down field to them asap so if they do frenzy I can whip a pig in as well for some extra punch
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>>96809240
Fair enough, I haven't ever actually played against Centigors so I was just speculating from the rules.
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>>96809205
This general is dedicated to the TRUE Children of Chaos!!
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>>96809315
The Chaos Gods prefer human thobeit :)
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>>96809330
Beastman are made from humans, checkmate
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>>96809219
>Priestess of Shallya
>directs attacks at her own unit
>wounds caused heal models instead hurting them
>KB and MS but only versus mark of nurgle, can't attack otherwise, at all
You're welcome
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>>96809347
She also has to role no fear/Terror rolls against Mark of Nurgle units
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>>96809363
Good catch! But fair is fair, also awards bonus VP if killed by Nurgleshits.
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Border Prince with a harem of Beatdoe wives.
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working on some death guard with gw
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>>96809260
I already am. And a goblin guy. And a skaven schemer. I always fall back to doing the shabbiest looking guys since those are the most fun to hobby and paint.
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>>96809465
have you considered scruffy border prince mercenaries?
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We've heard a lot about Border Princes but what are their main enemies? I remember in the first Gotrek and Felix book it was Undead (wights in barrows iirc?) and Orcs n Gobbos (the raid on the walled settlement)
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>>96809492
Badlands Orcs.
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>>96809492
>We've heard a lot about Border Princes but what are their main enemies?
Other Border Princes.
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>>96809492
They can fight eachother.
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>>96809213
true but i hope all old races gonna get new norsca treatment
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>>96809484
No, but it's an interesting proposition now that you mention it.
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>>96809492
bp are nice because it's the only place in the world where every faction is pretty easy to justify having a small tabletop sized forced out and about

main threat is orcs for sure, but everyone is there
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>>96809528
They will, it's just a matter of time. It's clear GW is putting actual resources into TOW now.
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>>96809549
I'm still disappointed that the border princes list is human princes only, the entire point of that place is that almost anyone could be a border prince. It should have been:
>0-1 Empire/Bret/Helf/Welf/Digger/Chaos (DP Excluded) Lord per 1000 points
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So, regarding the Renegade Crowns, are they supposed to be an Empire AoI, a Border Princes AoI, or their own standing army?
Could it be a hint for a future Dogs of War release, or is it just part of the Empire umbrella?
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>>96809528
I really like some of the 3rd party options for dorfs, but I really would like a nice ranger kit
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>>96809492
>>96809512
>>96809523
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>>96809205
Albion, it really needs its lore setting in stone and GW need to come down one way or another regarding its significance as the mechanism controlling the polar gates, possibly seeding some ideas about why the gates failed ultimately. It could be a really need tie in with Fimir too, for instance the Fimir could have been aservants of the Old Ones who betrayed them by wrecking the gate controls on Albion out of jealousy of the new races, but were ultimately abandoned by chaos because they failed to hand the world to chaos when the elves created the vortex. 4002t
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>>96809584
Who cares, it sucks. Play Brexiles or play Empire or play two separate forces of them allied together and just wait for DoW
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I saw the new dwarf for AoS WHQ. Its obviously WHF!!, They are stealing our stuff again and putting it in their fucking boring casual game. Fuck trannies of sigmar
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>>96809584
The book calls Renegade Crowns a "realm of Men," Army of Infamy
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>TQ
araby or nippon
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>>96809584
Its kind of weird bc its not technically either. An article described it as an empire AoI, but reading the book its really its own thing.

I don't think Dogs of War will come back (as we know it), but RC has a rule of being able to take any unit with the keyword "Dogs of War," currently stuff like badlands ogres, bonegrinder, etc.

Not too crazy to say future journals could throw in new uniuts with the Dogs of War keyword, that are grandfathered in to RC. So I think RC is gonna be the closest we get, but maybe it'll look more like the DoW we know as time goes on.
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>>96809664
We had a whole event with exclusive minis back in the day that fleshed it out. Albion is a shithole swampy island with nothing on it but some druids and muck beasts.
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>>96809715
yeah but what about in warhammer fantasy
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>>96809715
Gotrek and Felix revived the polar gate control centre concept hence why I said GW need to come down one way or another.
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>>96809584
Man those imperial ogres look comical next to normal dudes
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>>96809752
When was giantslayer even set? I thought the Lizzies genocided everything on the Island in the modern timeline.
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Holy shit... You guys so fucking pathetic I stg
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>>96809811
Shut up, perrynigger.
>nice dubs btw
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>>96809811
Perry the Platypus?
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>>96809811
Bane?
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>>96809205
>TQ
Kurgans. Cuz fuck you
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>>96809811
PERRYS
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>>96809768
in ET it gets flooded with daemons and destroyed. Giantslayer like most G&F novels is tricky since its on the pre-SoC timeline but sometime during KF's reign. Clearly as a company GW wouldn't be interested in fleshing it out until it could be monetized, but it has always had lore built and added to it behind the scenes according to numerous authors there.
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>>96809811
Tasukete Perry!(insert save me Eirin)
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>>96809213
Beastmen, but women.
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What exactly do Taal followers consider an animal? Are giant rats or giant spiders animals or monsters? What about garragors or Lustria's dinosaurs?

Is harming monsters always okay?

Would a Taal follower accept a job as a hunter or as a rat catcher?
I think as long the hunted animals are harming or threatening people is ok.

What about hunting animals for their pelts? I think as long they consume their meat too it should be okay.

I think their only restriction should be harming real life animals for fun, sport or spectacle.

What do you think?
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>>96809811
That is what obsession looks like
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I feel like you can create a better "funny border prince merc army" with bret exiles and imperial allies than renegade crowns
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>>96809951
It's pretty much no sport shooting and no animal cruelty. Basically everything else goes if you think about for more than 5 seconds.
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>>96809951
Brother, Warhammer writers put very minimal thought into the lore, they just slap shit down on paper
>don't wear armor, only animal hides
>btw we can't kill animals except self defense
How do they get the hides?
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>>96809964
So far best border prince list as far as I am concerned is just bog standard empire with a allied contingent of your choice.
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Hated every second of painting them. They are finished tho'.
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>>96809971
i think they can keep their hide as long they eat their meat too
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>>96809999
Nice job anon and well deserved quads.
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I ran out of pink flowers
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>>96810033
Nice paint scheme
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>>96810048
glad I wasnt alone thinking that
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>>96810033
>>96810045
I hate Cathay, but not /yourCathay/, sick paint job.
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>>96810048
>>96810056
Damn is that how it comes across? I really didn't see it like that, just thought pink was a good asian looking flower color, like blossoms and lotuses
>>96810060
thanks!
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>>96809752
>polar gate control centre
I buy it. I just don't know if I buy it being on fucking Albion and not somewhere in the center of the Chaos Wastes, if not long-since sucked into the Realm of Chaos in the aftermath.
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>>96809909
Aren't doe's described as pretty passive?
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>>96810033
>>96810045
Your cathayans unironically look better than the GW eavy metal painted examples. I am being serious. Don't listen to pnigger he is back in the thread again.
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>>96809768
>When was giantslayer even set?
About IC2505, same year the first volumes of My travels with Gotrek were published.
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>>96809999
Sexy, I love the bray shaman in the back too
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>>96810033
>>96810045
these are incredible, good job anon
those pink flowers are really cool, they sell the whole thing
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>>96810075
the in-house lore is that the mists, outwardly backward but amped up on magic tribes and giant descendants of the builders were defence mechanisms for the controls
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>>96810033
You managed to make the gayest army in the game look cool as fuck. Stand proud, you are strong.
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>>96810087
Pretty passive for a bray is still probably way more aggro than most races.
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>>96810014
Thanks anons. As for the shaman - he's on a round because I just wanted to paint him, didn't plan to actually use him. But now, since beastmen are kinda trending here, maybe I'll change my mind and build myself a beastmen army (I kinda have around 70 gors lying around in sprues plus a minotaur, 10 chaos hounds, trolls etc.).

Extra: werewolf, because I like the idea of werewolves being part of the warband, at least during full moon.
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>>96810102
>refuses to even utter Perrygods name
Absolutely buck broken
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>>96810048
I'm gonna sound like a colossal faggot but his doods are teal, nowhere near tranny blue, and there's zero white anywhere on his doods, just cold silvery steel. Now if you post 40gay models you found on Reddit in this big beautiful thread again, I'm afraid you'll have to suck all our big fat sweaty neckbeard cocks to completion, them's the rules.
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What are some good Warhammer fantasy FanFictions?
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>>96810087
>>96810175
Didn't that chaos lady from one of the early Gotrek novels say the does (who raised her as a child) were pretty much the opposite of bucks character wise? They're not just passive they're nurturing, carring and not even violent by human standards.
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>>96810208
I'd start by asking this guy >>96810203
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>>96810033
Excellent
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>>96810212
Yeah exactly. The doe's are gentle/nurturing because of their role in beastman society. That's why they exist. You couldn't imagine a half mutated baby getting raised and nurtured by gors or ungors.
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Wish I had this mouse pad.
It's pretty cool.
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Yo leaker post a pic of the upcoming war mammoth
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>>96810233
I can’t just post my taint like that man. Take me out to dinner.
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>>96810137
>Sky Titans were the construction workers/engineers of the Old Ones, that's why their tech was so good
Sometimes WFB lore makes me feel retarded because I miss glaringly obvious shit like this
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>>96810212
I haven't read most of gotrek so I'd have to take your word on that part. The does are definitely more homebody, but even a child male Bray would end up aggro quickly. I'd say the comment about being less violent than human standards has more to do with what's standard for humans in Warhammer. Peasants ain't got much time for nurturing. The irony of the Gors is they also probably treat the does better than the men treat women.
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>>96810212
>>96810175
I've heard both at this point, so I'm not actually sure which is true. It's interesting conceptually, if nothing else.
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>>96810229
Vicious raw passionate animalistic mating sex with Ulrika
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>>96810257
>I haven't read most of gotrek so I'd have to take your word on that part.
Everything up to and including Giantslayer is good, it was written by William King, everything after is standard BL slop. The original books are definitely worth a read.
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>>96810272
Story of my life
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>>96810301
Lucky bastard
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>>96810293
>everything after is standard BL slop.
I hardly disagree. Nathan Long did an excellent work continuing with the series, and even succeeded in trying to mimic Bill King's writing pattern.
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>>96810272
Meanwhile, (You) irl
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>>96810293
The only Willy King I found a bit iffy was Beastslayer. I'm not sure who edited the book but jesus the nonexistant paragraphs and page formatting is a fucking nightmare to get through.

That and the main villain gets rekt so easily. Double leg smashed in the rear by two slayers then chopped by Gotrek after a brief scuffle. So much for a Chaos Lord.

In contrast the Bloodthirster tears through half an army, tanks god knows how many hits, tanks snorri chopping its legs and very nearly kills Gotrek.
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>>96810323
>tfw went from fa/tg/uy to fi/tg/uy to skinny twink (got busy and stopped eating)
I miss Taco Bell slop
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>>96810272
I hope that when we get Kislev we get an Ulrika model and fluffy rules. I imagine it’s not period accurate but still.
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>>96810322
>Nathan Long did an excellent work continuing with the series,
Eh, I read Orcslayer(?) the one with that giant bug under a dwarf hold and thought it was shit. Gotrek had trouble scratching bog standard orcs because of an asspull maguffin. Elfslayer was decent, beastlsayer was also stupid with the giant herdstone that literally one shots everything without plot armour (G&F themselves) by turning them into beastmen.
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>>96809205
Does anyone actually want newly designed Old World minis?
The whole appeal is that it's the classic game. Those new minis really clash with the old stuff. The new Bretonnians and Cathay look especially awful.

Are they gonna gradually faze out the old stuff and just start focusing on new slop?
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>>96810355
>The only Willy King I found a bit iffy was Beastslayer
Was that a Billy book? I read it but thought it came inth post-King era.
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>>96810380
She was mortal when she met Felix, no chance. Maybe her ancestor, some boyar named Straghov.
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>>96810378
Let's see your body then
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>>96810385
I honestly only want the realms of chaos stuff, I don’t care for the game.
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Man, I don't remember Felix being such a freak, when it came to women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0fd8uE8v_4
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>>96810383
>one shots everything without plot armour (G&F themselves) by turning them into beastmen
G&F are allowed to just get dumbshit lucky sometimes.
>>96810416
>being a completely unremarkable skinny faggot is an unbelievable claim to him
Lol
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>>96810385
No, the whole appeal is that it’s a continuation of Warhammer Fantasy. You’re free to play with exclusively older models using older editions. But TOW is a continuation and the whole point is to get new releases and move forward with Fantasy.
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>>96810392
It was Billy ya which surprised me even more cause Daemonslayer waa much better.
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>>96809909
Where is this model from anyway? I'm the jackass doing the Slaanesh woodelf beastmen army. And proper brays would be nice to have.
Posting my dudes fluff cause fuck it - https://files.catbox.moe/agiibx.pdf
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>>96810073
>Damn is that how it comes across?
Not at all. It just lives rent free on some anons' heads
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>>96809971
>except self defense
Or food
So as long as you eat it you can use the hides
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>>96810470
Both are mock-ups someone did. If I remember correctly, both are pulled from Darkoath kits, just with gor/ungor parts swapped in for legs and/or heads. Probably not the most cost-effective way to make fem-gors, unless you plan to use the other Darkoath shit in the kit.

I'm working on a Slaaneshi warherd based around Tilea for some narrative games I'll be doing, so I've been looking up different kitbashing and customization ideas. It's already turning into a project that's more work than I anticipated, with anything bestial and androgynous or feminine proving to be a particularly bad pain point.
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So with new Chaos Marauder sculpts coming in how long till we start seeing more replacement sculpts and what sculpts need replacing the most?
I mean we've already seen new TK stuff and Cathay and Kislev probably have a decent amount of generic heads and what not that should make new Empire/Brett models not that far off either...
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>>96809444
Check'd. How do you base them to hide the foot tabs? Those have always been a huge turn off for me.
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>>96810565
We don’t know. The initial marauder rumour also said a mammoth is coming so that may be the next reveal.
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>>96809761
These guys would look great.
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>>96809205
>TQ
Naggaroth. The western half of the continent is literally nothing. The SE is pretty much nothing.
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>>96810581
The hope in me think that a new Mammoth model would point towards Ogres in ToW
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>>96810565
>what sculpts need replacing the most?
Tomb Kings skeletons.
They're antediluvian.
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>>96810624
Mammoths are for Chaos.
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>>96809205
I just sat the news, I'd say we won but I'm sure it will be shit, rolling back primaris next please
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>>96810624
Yeah it’s a mammoth kit for chaos like the other guy said. A la Norsca in Warhammer 3
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>>96810648
What news? The models?
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>>96810635
Hmmm so i guess they wouldn't make sprues for the mammoth that could also be used for the Thundertusk with some additions.
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>>96810602
>must... paint... nigger... hnnnnggggg
JEREMY! JEREMY STOP WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS! I'M GETTING YOUR PILLS
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>>96810048
completely brainbroken
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>>96810666
Mammoths are way too big for that.
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>>96810499
>>96810675
I don't think his Cathayans look like the homo-chomo flag but you gentlemen are acting mighty curious about it
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>>96810666
No. I would say that I am as sure as I can be without knowing definitively that that will not happen. It's going to be a chaos release.
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>>96810696
I'm not saying they give Ogres Chaos mammoths i'm saying they reuse the sprue for Thundertusks which >>96810690
fair enough those always seemed pretty big but it's hard to tell with ogres
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>>96810671
Blame goonhammer. It is tiresome. No chicken is safe with dis nogre.
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>>96810738
Eugh. I just looked him up and he certainly seems the type. What a fucking fag
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>>96810735
Mammoths absolutely mog Thundertusks.
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>>96810602
>Nigger
Why tho?
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Feeling good about this adventure, lads. Wish me luck!
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>>96810764
That's a big guy
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>>96810566
just apply the base slop up and over it, pretty trivial for naturalistic bases, only a pain in the ass if you want to mount them on something like a sci fi city or cobblestone base
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>>96810764
Damn that's massive......looks like that's a minotaur on a stonehorn though, not a thundertusk.
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>>96810794
>looks like that's a minotaur on a stonehorn though, not a thundertusk.
They have the same body.
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>>96810794
oh wait i'm just retarded..... though i swear thundertusks were bigger in lore
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>>96810794
>>96810798
Same size basically it's a dual kit (thundertusk and stonehorn I mean)
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So can we expect the marauders to go up for pre order in 1-2 weeks?
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>>96810888
if we live in 2026 sure
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>>96810248
Queers will burn eternally in hellfire
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>>96810436
>one shots everything without plot armour (G&F themselves) by turning them into beastmen
>G&F are allowed to just get dumbshit lucky sometimes.
In this instance my complaint isn't the plot armor, it's actually the ridiculous herdstone itself. That was just flat out retarded:
>hit it and everything in a 5km radius becomes beastmen, doesn't matter who they are, what they are, their level of faith (which actually matters most when resisting chaos)
It was just outright stupid and OP even by WFB's own internal setting. If it was that easy why even have Everchosens!?
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>>96810918
well you're gonna be well acquainted with them for some time I see.
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>>96810895
I mean they said more Old World news in the coming months, I doubt it'll take till next year to get the Marauders maybe 3 weeks
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>>96810929
Anon look at the calendar.
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>>96810251
Current Cathay book said that Sky Titans couldn't even develope black powder or cannons, the Dragon Emperor gave it to them. Plus the Dragon Empire didn't like the Old Ones he wasn't going to help a race that is explicitly helping them out
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>>96810932
It's the 21st of October here. What does your calendar say?
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>>96810932
Have they shown off the christmas boxes yet? don't think fantasy will get any sadly but still.
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>>96810937
Yes. 7 boxes for 40k and 4 boxes for AoS. Nothing for TOW or HH
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>>96810934
nobody cares about tow or carthay lore
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>>96810794
Why does that matter a thunder tusk isn't any larger than a stone horn
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>>96810926
But I'm not a homosexual and was baptized so I won't be going there?
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>>96810948
Yet it's now official Warhammer fantasy canon
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>>96810944
Sad.... at what point would they consider giving ToW christmas boxes?
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>>96810966
pls gib us money chinkoids
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>>96810967
Who knows. But both TOW and HH have way way better value boxes for armies. The TOW Battalions and the HH Combat Forces are way better value than Combat Patrols or Spearheads.
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>he's back
pathetic life
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>>96810972
This, I hope Delves get ported back quickly for exactly this reason. The army box is bound to be good, just because they're all plastic save RBTs and heroes
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>>96809705
https://ufile.io/hzllkadk

Well if people want a homebrew conversion of Dogs of War to Old World they can use this in the meantime if their opponent is cool with it.
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I WILL be buying the marauders box.
It WILL remain unopened and unassembled until a war mammoth is released
If no war mammoth is released it WILL be resold on eBay for 150%
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>>96811023
I will be buying 3 marauder boxes and reselling 2 to fund the mammoth. That’s capitalism.
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>>96811048
You think the Mammoth will be the most expensive TOW model to date by that significant of a margin?
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>>96811055
If it isn’t it’ll pass savings onto the box of marauders I want to keep.
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>>96811055
>you now remember James has an excuse to make an Emperor Dragon kit because helves have star dragons
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>>96810978
Literally who, frogposter?
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>>96811094
How different would that be from the Smaug model? Or would it just be Smaug without the scenery
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>>96811104
No clearer sign of a newfag. Sadfrog is classic.
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>>96811132
Smaug+arms+elf, so not an oversized wyvern
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>>96808653
As a Beastmen, Dispossesed, Ogres and Fyreslayers player, I have grown to despise AoS killing my armies.
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>>96811167
That sucks, you should go complain about it in/aosg/
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>>96811133
>showing respect for Frogposters
Clearly a Bretonnian sympathizer.
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>>96809951
>rat catcher
You could probalby justify it as protecting their communities food, or hunting for food for your dog
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>>96811167
>James makes the worst, most cynically corporate, generic, half-assed setting ever made, putting WFB's rotting corpse on strings for a couple quick bucks from dipshit west coast American faggots
>you actually buy into this
>get rugpulled multiple times
Fully deserved, now that you've paid your toll you're welcome home though
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>>96810865
>we still don't even have an evil aligned human army
Chaos??
And we just got news of marauders

Anyway, Araby are in a less magically saturated part of the world so would be less likely to be ontologically evil due to Chaos corruption. So they might be assholes that invade people and keep slaves, but in Warhammer that makes them morally comparable to Bretonnians.
They invaded Estalia like a thousand years ago, and when they got crusaded their were locals who joined the invasion to overthrow Jaffar or whatever his name was. They'd probably be quite nice guys by this point: trading with Estalians, Brets, Tileans, High Elves and Dwarves. Hating undead due to Khemri and probably a bad history with Lizardmen in the southlands.
But they'd be overly flippant about Chaos, thus their use of Djinns/daemons.
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>>96811421
Speaking of Araby. If they do get a book or are a sub part of a book, I'd like to see them focus on the medical/alchemy side. Something like unit champions that use potions effect the entire unit or such.
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>>96811458
I am telling you now. 0% chance we get Araby. It's more likely the UK turns into Araby irl than Araby being depicted/mentioned by modern GW.
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Only way i could see Araby would be a limited army of infamy for DoW or something.
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>>96811458
I agree there's little chance for Araby. I don't think it's impossible, in fact it would be quite easy to make a "PC" version of the faction whilst retaining a lot of existing dynamics and keeping them very interesting. But GW are just not clever. They simply don't have smart ideas or creativity or interesting pre-existing knowledge.

But anyway I'd like them to have each of their cities be a bit different, like Empire provinces and I could easily imagine naptha grenadiers being common in one.
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>>96811484
That's really what I want. Just a small modifier to model usage like the potion thing and their wizards have fly (8) as a baseline. Maybe change which schools of magic they can access. That kind of thing.
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I think asking for Araby is unironically tempting the monkeys paw.
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>>96811533
We get Araby BUT all lore for TOW is done by Dan Abnett going forward.
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>>96810451
>continuation
>move forward

it's 200+ years before old editions and more cooler stuff like the Storm of Chaos, I mean what the fuck are the Marauders gonna raid in the WASTELAND?

They should have just started it in 2301 The Great War against Chaos, and everyone's going crazy because of it and marching their armies to war. I don'T care about that Shaman looking for that other Beastmen, or that Elf or Dwarf or Bretonnian wasting time in the Border Princes. Hell even the politically unstable Empire is pretty cool with nothing happening much, instead of being littered in small conflicts and religious conflicts.
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>>96811543
Araby but it's done solely by Matt Ward.
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>>96811543
That's gonna be based using his Hammer of Ulric novel as the bedrock.
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>empire has museums
who the fuck is visting them?
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To whoever recommended Night of Blood, thanks king. My table loved it.
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>>96811814
The middle class and up
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>>96811591
I accept both of these on the condition that HE WHO WRITES, Gav "Elgdrengi" Thorpe, is placed on High Elf and Dark Elf duty for a fucking decade. Take it or leave it.
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>>96811822
How the fuck can the Empire support a broad middle class? Nobody can leave their hometown without getting Gor'd, Orc'd, or Middenlander'd
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>>96811835
>leave their hometown
...you don't get to leave your hometown
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>>96810934
That’s wrong though, the first AJ states that while the secret of black powder was shared, the Sky Titans used it to make their weapons themselves. He chose to help them because they were a fellow race that predated the Old Ones. The Dragon Emperor was ambivalent about the Old Ones and mastered the Winds of Magic they brought with them to help cope with the changing world.
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erhmm i posted in wrong fread

she goblin on my squig til i hop
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>>96809909
So you're a faggot or? Whats the purpose of getting something that looks worse than what we have already, a strict downgrade. Confusing motivation
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>>96811918
Gorgeous. Those old sculpts are overflowing with character. Good job.
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Any grogs that can help me find an old, metal goblin model (probably not citadel, but maybe) that I saw once? It was a night goblin bending over and rudely sticking out his butt. It was not the squig rider with his ass out; he was just standing on the ground.
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>>96811953
Crazy how character just means "looks retarded and childish"
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>>96811094
they already would have one that can fit the style
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>>96812078
and the real galrauch too
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>>96812078
I want this so bad to play that DragonQuest scenario with
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>>96812085
Why is blud blue and orange
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>>96812015
closest i can think is a snotling mooning duo

theres also a night goblin giving the middle finger, but idk about a mooner
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>>96812208
>1.5 for 4
We have to go back
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>>96812188
Something something inside you there are 2 wolves (dragons)
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More evidence of a potential mammoth coming. Blurb from the rulebook.
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>>96810392
You're probably confusing it with Shamanslayer, which was alright.
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another day without Cathay nerfs zzzzzz
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It's probably worse than just running exiles but having the option to chuck ambushing blunderbusses with daemonology wizard around makes me want to rework my empire army into renegade crowns.
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>>96810764
Big ol mammoths
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>Beastmen. Now THAT'S an army.
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>>96812496
How do you even play with this thing
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>>96812573

You push it around the table and make PRÖÖHH sounds with your mouth.
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>>96809205
Anyone have thoughts on the Renegade Legacy Pack stuff for Old World?

I understand that undead got a weird, annoying and unwieldy buff with regen on crumble, but I'm just happy I can take armor on my Vampire Count and still cast spells/make them my general and I'd happily ignore that rule if I got to use the Renegade stuff.
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>>96812573
You club your enemy with it
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Absolutely smashed some rats last night in the name of the dark gods.
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Rate how cool this conversion is, really frightening beast
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>>96812552
i look like this and say that
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>>96812588
>shows up with some WAACfag list to smash the weakest units in the weakest army
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Heavy chaos armor/full plate armor for great bray shaman. Yay or nay? I kinda want to take one or the other just so i have a reason to try and kitbash some actual armor for my shaman
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>>96812588
That's it man. That's it. This is what we want to see.
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>>96812603
NTA but how is his army WAACy?
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>>96812603
It was 7th edition, Skaven were pretty good in 7th. Rat player made the mistake of not bringing any chaff and bringing the plague claw, which is useless.
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>>96812588
>almost as many models on the chaos side as skaven
Oh shit ratman what are you doing
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>>96812612
It's not, every list you bring against Skaven is a WAACfag list. Although..

>>96812620
I see, not TOW. Still I don't really understand what this rat army is supposed to be. A bunch of clan rats and some plague monks. I guess he really just loved clan rats.
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>>96812596
Is that made out of a Giant and a Mourngul?
Also vore fetish
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>>96810323
These look like fun guys to play some games with
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>>96810470
That's darkoath (I think) Torso and arms with Gor head and lower body
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>>96812588
Good shit Khorne bro. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
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>>96812743
Seems like it's Mourngul + Galagaak Raging Tarvox from Mierce Miniatures + Gor battlestandard
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>>96809909
Why would they cover up? Is it the famed rival of the slaangor, the modestigor?
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>>96809999
Nice looking bray shaman,
Move the fucking prey out the way tho
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>tfw yesterday listened to "Notebook Found in a Deserted House"
>tfw today listening to "The Dunwich Horror"
>all these beastmen propaganda posts
man, I'm getting real close to buying their battalion box even though I never liked these guys before
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>>96810694
If you see an army painted mainly in blueish metal, tiel and crimsom and your first thought it 'Tranny pride flag' because there's some pink flowers on the base, that is still mainly green, that's on you, anon
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>>96812588
> Everything is fully painted
Finally.
Some good fucking food.
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>>96809909
You, but with the twisted contents of your deformed skull spread across the pavement after a thorough beating with a brick in a sock.
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>>96810433
He has a pretty typical number of romances for a male fantasy story protagonist, which makes him a ludicrous and unrealistic Chad to the sexless weenies of gen Z.
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>>96812925
If you have a chaos army you can slowly start a Warherd by getting some to use as allies.
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>>96812588
Here’s the other side. Ratman went big on clan rats, he usually takes a meta list but fancied a change - unfortunately the chaos list was pretty optimised with effective chaff and a solid amount of melee threats.
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How fast and easy would it be to make a Chaos Warrior army? I'm bouncing between some armies, mainly TK and WoC, and basically its come down to which one I can be done with faster. I've done way too many horde armies recently and I just want to do something different but also won't take me a year to complete.
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>>96813037
Embrace the herd Anon, go with Minotaur bloodherds.
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>>96813037
with tomb kings you can get away with very simple schemes and techniques, but the basic models are older, uglier and more numerous
chaos warriors can be made as a low models count army, but have various different textures, trims, trinkets and trophies
if it's just fast, go undead
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>>96813040
Beastmen is a fun idea and I genuinely like them, but my friend already has a BM army and I'd rather make something we don't have yet.
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>>96813023
Chaos list, probably could make the disc sorcerer level 4 and make the melee lord a hero but I like LD9.
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>>96809252
Tell me about Marienburg why do you love it so?
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>>96813053
The lower model count is also good since I'm starting to run with some storage space issues. Also the more I think about it the more I might be edging toward Chaos just because I'd like to, for once, have some actual elite infantry. Painting the trims will take a while, although I wonder if you can make them look good without it. I'll have to shop around for a bit and look up some inspirational material, but knowing me I'll end up making things "worse" for me again, like blending the furs to be prismatic since I'd go with a Tzeench flavored WoC theme.
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>>96813096
>like blending the furs to be prismatic since I'd go with a Tzeench flavored WoC theme.
it would be way easier to paint the furs normally and then simply sidebrush or drybrush some colorshift paint to make the fur somewhat like peacock feathers

if you want to run with tzeentch you can probably get away with a lot of washed silvers and spare you the trims, since they'll still be visible and in relief in a light armor color

but some gold trims will still be useful on key characters or important areas like weapons' heads and helmets
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>>96813137
also some good third party options or conversion opportunities with tzaangors

but then you may increase the difficulty per model
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>>96813143
I never understood the appeal of these models. I'm yet to see anybody who can print one of these kinds of models to a high enough standard to show these details much less paint them.

t. designer of mini STLs for a different game than wfb
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>>96813143
Never heard of colorshift paint, but I'll look into it. I'm not against trimming outright, doing the key characters would be fun and something I'd definitely do. I just don't know if I'd enjoy doing it for my entire army (and who knows, I might).

For my main character I'd have to try and see if I could get pic related from somewhere. I don't really plan on doing anything fancy like big monster mounted heroes. I just want an army of dudes on foot and horses (and a disc) who are going to run into an enemy block and not feel like I'm running head first into a brick wall every time like I do when I play Skaven.
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>>96813203
Not that anon, but trim isn't so bad once you get used to it. It's a great way to improve your brush control too. It also depends on which models you get. The chaos warriors they sell currently don't really have any trim at all whereas the ones from 5th edition are all trim, but even then it also depends on how you paint them. You can find lots of different paint schemes with and without trim in the various army books chaos got over the years. As for that specific tzeentch champion on a disc, he's wonderful. I wish I had him in my collection, his shield is sick and the flames on his back look really nice.
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>>96813191
I've had smaller details get printed fine
maybe the scale you use just isn't the same
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>>96809205

>TQ

Ind could be cool.
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>>96809999
Just painted my Griffon Knights too. Didnt enjoy it either. Too much fine detail and attention to detail required. Also mine looks like a High elf unit.
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>>96813307
I don't doubt it is printable - I just doubt the average consumer really tries to. I see what's get posted on discord and it's just chalked to shit from dirty alcohol, gummy, misprinted, and pockmarked.

I mean, it's what sells so what can you do you know? I usually just work at a '00-'10 GW or Bolt Action detail level in heroic 28mm. Big, chunky details that read well with a base, contrast, highlight/drybrush because it paints easy and sculpts fast.
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>>96813143
why are modern sculptors unwilling or unable to pose their models standing on flat ground like normal people? I don't want those fancy rocks and the silly poses, I want models that look cool and can actually rank up.
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>>96813590
because heroes having striking poses are appealing to many people, and a number of these proxies aren't meant just for tightly packed ranks and files games.
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>>96813590
> I don't want those fancy rocks and the silly poses, I want models that look cool and can actually rank up
I hate the tactical rock but other more elaborate things are even worse ,you can incorporate a rock in almost every base design but ruins, corpses etc lock you.
Pic related is a good modern GW hero with a nice pose even if its AOS, which funnily don't even need to rank up.
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>>96812573
There are rules for it in Storm of Magic or Monstrous Arcanum
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>>96812573
I'd like to underline that in early Age of Sigmar this model was to be played without a base, and it had a special rule where it would fall when dying, and you had to turn it on its side and see what models are beneath it because they got crushed.
I wonder if anybody (even one person) actually even did that with their expensive Forgeworld antique
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>>96813037
Both are very easy to paint and almost entirely drybrushable armies. WoC is more elite so lower model count unless you decide to go full viking and buy the recently revealed marauders.
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>>96813970
>I'd like to underline that in early Age of Sigmar this model was to be played without a base, and it had a special rule where it would fall when dying, and you had to turn it on its side and see what models are beneath it because they got crushed.
wtf that's actually sovl
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>>96810212
>choas forces of ravening beastfolk
>BUT DUH WUMIN ARE PEESFUL AND KIND
Stupid shit written by stupid people
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>>96813684
it isn't drained of all soul like most modern GW stuff
the shield is just blatantly an Uruk-hai shield, but whatever, it still has the chaos warrior soul in it, somehow.
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>>96814173
>the shield is just blatantly an Uruk-hai shield
Let's not pretend that warhammer is above copying stuff
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>>96814146
>seething trannoid
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>>96814250
>to this race of khorne worshipping goat people, traditional human gender roles are SACRED
*yawn*
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>>96814104
Nah, no plans to get marauders. The new models are incredible, but also too busy for my painting skills.
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>>96814146
>>96814284
>>96814250
"female beastmen are actually timid and peaceful" isnt really prominent lore because it goes against the faction identity, but it works well enough.

Beastmen are essentially animals, having elements to them that represent the wider range of animal behaviors works fine, it also helps explain the logistics - how the fuck does child rearing work if theyre all schizoid murderbeasts all the time.

This is doubly true since beastmen are based on cattle, and theres a very big difference in temperament between a horny bull and a milk-cow.
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>>96814284
>animals need to conform to my gender ideology or you're genociding me!!
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>>96814146
look, the army doesn't feature them, so it's good to give a reason as to why it doesn't

it isn't pic related
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>>96814397
true though cows can be very dangerous especially when protecting calves, there are many cases where a group of cows will surround walkers/farmers and hem them in then headbutt and stamp them to death which is often more of a risk than a single bull losing its shit which at least you can escape from.
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>>96814510
>>it isn't pic related
The thing is though female orcs and orc children probably ARE a thing in tolkien right? Orcs are still ultimately normal flesh and blood creatures, they arent spawning out of the earth asexually like in warhammer.
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>>96814526
I think you could still do that. Something something "beastman does are normally placid and timid, but have been known to enter a violent state when their young are threatened"

Fact is we really dont know anything about beastman females because beastman females are a small tidbit of the already sparse beastman lore. We dont even know how they really look. Do they have tits, udders? are they the cheerleaders from bloodbowl?
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C7 put out a trailer for the new WFRP edition, which shows some new art and uses the TWW music
>https://xcancel.com/cubicle7/status/1980952192472199320#m
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>>96814559
it's a mess also because of the 'mutated babies get stolen and raised as beastmen' story and because rape incredibly isn't a valid basis for reproduction.
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>>96814541
no, Morgoth tortured elves into orcs with magic and shit. every single orc is an elf that was personally turned into an evil monster by a bad guy.

there are no orc innocents, they're been turned evil by magic.
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>>96814541
>they arent spawning out of the earth asexually like in warhammer.
in the movies they are

the problem with tolkien and orcs is that he wanted a convenient unequivocal evil enemy in an inconvenient worldbuilding where evil has certain limits on what it can be or can do
the real origins of orcs, or how they normally live isn't explored not because he couldn't but because exploring them either makes them less unequivocally evil, or has them break the rules and limits of his worldbuilding, so the best compromise in his case was to just avoid answering the question, even if that worldbuilding autism would keep pestering him

warhammer is different because while there's a generally unmistakable good and a generally unmistakable evil, there's a visceral fascination in exploring the grey area as well, so the good guys can also be cruel and stupid, or the evil orcs and undead can also "be the heroes" and side against another evil enemy, and evil factions like chaos can have humanising factions like understandable motivations or families, and beastmen can be shown to be men, in addition to beasts, which also emphasizes further the 'alien' horror they represent under an uncanny lens.
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>>96814675
>no, Morgoth tortured elves into orcs with magic and shit
Thats a semi-apocryphal origin story for them, it does not apply to orcs many ages later.

There literally were never enough elves alive to account for the orcs at any given time period, let alone over the totality of middle earths history. At some point they clearly went out and started reproducing (hell we KNOW this is the case because they have repeatedly been reduced in number and been forced into the corners of the world, only to have their numbers recover and they come back to stir shit)

>>96814683
>in the movies they are
Uruk hai are
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>>96814675
>there are no orc innocents
Anon, "orcs are actually elves corrupted by dark magic" literally makes them innocent victims of morgoth. Taken and twisted against their will into forms they had no choice in.
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>>96814706
>if you stop that orc from eating that baby you're just as bad as him!
>HE'S A VICTIM!!

Unless you're coming in with a 3rd act Deus Ex Machina to turn them all back into not-evils then I'm just going to torch the Orc village.
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>>96814627
Beastmen are one of those factions where there are inevitably going to be dozens of coexisting answers to the same question

They could reproduce between each other, reproduce with animals, reproduce with humans, spread by spontaneous mutations and mutated births from otherwise normal beasts or normal humans, they could crawl fully formed from primordial oozes in the wildest places and stem from misshapen fleshy trees and by bleeding rocks that crack open like eggs, and from random carcasses writhing with newborn beastlings instead of maggots

female beastwomen might look more like beasts than women or more like women than beasts, they might be hulking monsters barely distinguishable from the males or said isolated and secretive does

and all these things would likely all be true scattered in some places or some times
that's what chaos should mean
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>>96814726
Well done, youre a moron.

If someone is mind controlled and attacking you, its fine to kill them if necessary. That doesent mean they arent also an innocent victim of whoever mind controlled them.
Innocence is based on moral culpability, personal wrongdoing, not circumstance. If an evil wizard goes and turns you into a horrible monster, you did not commit any wrongdoing of your own free will ergo you are still innocent, that doesent change the fact that it may be necessary to kill you.
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>>96814802
Your argument would be correct if the orcs in LOTR would be the first "generation" of them not their descendants that continue to perform evil acts.
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>>96814819
>if the orcs in LOTR would be the first "generation"
This is the premise you laid out. That they are all the elves personally corrupted by Morgoth, rather than later offspring of the initial few created orcs.

"Morgoth tortured elves into orcs with magic and shit. every single orc is an elf that was personally turned into an evil monster by a bad guy."
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>>96814745
Personal taste but my favourite answer is they are ALL gavebeasts. Humanities dark little secret they abandon in the woods and list on family trees as "stillborn". Real folk horror shit where the real natural state of ambient chaos effecting humanity is their inner animal brought to the surface. Horns to gut, Hooves to crush, Wolves Teeth to rip and Human Hands to choke. But even still maybe hair colour or eyes or a birthmark or something that seems to familiar to your own family that live on the edge of the forest and have a lot of tiny gravestones in the family plot above empty graves.
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>>96814802
I hope those orcs that are stabbing you appreciate your moral victory.
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>tow and aos try to avoid excessive overlaps, hence why aos gets conan marauders and tow gets northmen marauders

>aos sun goblins don't have infantry units
>aos hobgoblins don't have a cavalry unit

>tow can update its normal goblins infantry and replaced the wolf riders with hobgoblins wolf riders
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>>96814927
in english, doc
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>>96814927
I doubt they would use asian aesthetics for the hobgoblins.
I'd rather they try making something new with a new goblin design that's a blend of the night goblins hoods and the normal goblins' physique, tools and mounts
if they really have to make the greenskins distinct.
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>>96813023
>>96812588

Very beautiful armies and very sovlful confrontation, but the terrain here looks pretty... anemic? The center field is so open it won't really matter after turn 1.
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>>96814976
Could use scythians for hobgoblins, they already have the matching hats
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>>96814591
>xcancel
Just post the normal link next time.
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>>96814976
so you mean what hobgoblins always were in warhammer fantasy?
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>>96814997
Yeah, good enough too.
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>>96815011
Hobgoblins don't really present themselves as the normal goblins, nor as the ones between the normal goblins and the night goblins.
They're more of a third (4th) vertex.
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>>96815002
why
If you don't have an account you it's a more useful site
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>>96812588
Armies look great but that cheap Chinese mat is anti-sovl. Grass, sand, or snow(also sand) your way into something nice and let the good times roll. Even a spring green grass mat straight from the choo choo train shop would be a huge improvement.
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>>96812596
It has the creepy factor down pat but it's not disgusting enough, almost just looks undead instead of infested. Needs some maggots or bilious human remains vomit spewing out of the mouth and some bright red sores or purple petechiae on its arms or something
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>>96815002
What could you possibly have to interject towards a less cancerous twitter-reader?
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Dear USbros: the questing knight paladin is in stock on the warhammer store

Accidentally posted this on another board in an unrelated thread kek
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>>96815038
Its started by trannies and looks ugly as fuck. Reason enough.
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>>96815171
>he waited this long
I shiggy diggy mon ami
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>>96815023
>nor the ones between normal goblins and night goblins
what goblins are you talking about then? If you mean 'hobgobla khan' and those steppe goblins I'm pretty sure they are what the hobgoblins are recruited from by the chaos dwarfs, so the same scythian aesthetic makes sense for them too.
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>>96815209
I've been checking everyday for like a year and a half. I've missed it a handful of times, gone to warhammer world, chased down GW employees at cons... Finally it's mine.
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>>96814976
I'd like forest goblins to get a full subfaction. So a more jungle look with an increase in giant insect stuff. Giant centipedes as a new fast warbeast, goblins riding mosquitos as flying Cav, etc.
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>>96815176
Not enough pop-ups asking you to confirm your phone number and posts that are mysteriously returned as never having existed until you log in for your twitter-addled brain, creature?
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>>96814397
>>96814526
>>96814559
It's not "prominent lore" because it's not a thing. Beastmen come from two places: random mutated humans that flee to the forest/get left there by dumb parents as babies, and the violent rape of human women by Beastmen. That's it. There's no quaint little village of dainty anime waifus back at the Herdstone while Grunty Stinkhair is out pillaging. Fuck I wish I could hate you all to death.
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>>96815217
The first post suggested updating the normal goblin infantry, keeping them in the same overall design of normal goblins, and updating the normal goblin cavalry but making this one about hobgoblins instead of keeping them normal goblins.

My suggestion was instead to update both the goblins infantry and and the cavalry into a new design of goblins sitting in-between the old normal goblins and the night goblins that would be presented as the new normal for goblins, at least during the tow period.
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>>96815379
you are either a female or a tranny to fetishize bestiality
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>>96815379
>because it's not a thing
Except in the books where beastmen does are absolutely a thing.
Rape and post partum garbage alone are not capable of explaining the numbers and spread of beastmen.
Gaves are also an exceptional thing amongst beastmen, not the norm.

No need to make a strawman about anime beastgirls, they're just beastmen who are female and people don't see them around because they're kept in their home turfs.
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Another point to remember is Beastmen born in an existing Beastmen society are often killed off if they are deformed in some none beneficial matter. Krawlmaw for example was born blind and was only spared because Morghur himself saved him. So they have to have stable breeding populations to be able to go "nah this ones no good"
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>>96812588
Ratbros, how do we survive this edition?
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>>96813590
Because you're either stuck with a flat footed pose or risk the model being heavily off balance.
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>>96814429
You're the only one demanding animals conform to a gender ideology. What do you also have meltdown when you see lionesses going on hunts while the lions stay back with the children?
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>>96815629
nigga these are goats.
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>beastmen anons infighting over fluff
>mfw there was an actual rule called Infighting for beastmen in 5th

Like clockwork
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>>96815637
They have goat like qualities you dumb nigger they're not literally goats.
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>>96815379
No one mentioned "quaint little villages" you drooling retard. What was mentioned are biological beastman females (something that has been referenced in various pieces of lore) as well as the fact that they are generally described as being less violent than the males.
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>>96812605
Any beastmen players who have gotten games in got any idea?
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>>96815756
Ehh for the price on the unit its iffy. You gotta remember stuff like the Braystaff.
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sex with Bretonnian peasant women
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>>96815756
Every time I've run armor on my great bray its been completely worthless. They weren't shot at. And the one time I did enter into combat was because of the spells I rolled, meaning I didn't need viletide and took ghorok, charged and just beat sticked the Saurus general on cold one. I wouldn't have charged without the armor, but I could have just taken viletide instead of ghorok and saved the points from the armor.

Long story short, Shamans are better outside of a unit, especially surrounded by skirmishers, but still excellent next to any block. Armor is mostly not needed.
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>>96816011
oh, also skin of man on a great bray is fucking fantastic if the terrain is favorable, and mangelder is way better than the armor when used with a large skirmish unit.
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Why does GW simply not hire ONE guy who is proven to know how to paint womens faces? It could be his niche.
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better scan of the war of settra's furry now in the gofile link
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>>96816742
the job of the official paintjobs is not to paint the models in the best way they can possibly be painted, but to colour code them to display the product the customer is actually getting
so there cannot be soft blends that better frame the feminine traits, instead the facial features must be painted with a similar degree of heavy handed depth so it's clear where there's a sculpted detail and where there isn't
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>>96816784
Thank you Papa Bones
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>>96816784
Thanks (tomb) king!
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>>96816011
>>96816173
A shame but thank you for the input
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>>96816818
This. I honestly don't get it why so many people have trouble understanding this and go with the "gw can't paint faces lmao" bullshit
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>>96816963
They can paint mens faces. They can't paint womens faces.
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>>96816978
Yes because male faces benefit from having harsh features so it just happens to go well with their style.
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>>96816963
Nobody but GW takes this approach to box art.
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>>96817078
Remind me who is the biggest company on the market?
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>>96810073
No, it looks great
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>>96817078
Yeah, because GW is at the top and they aren't.
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>>96817085
>>96817112
Explain this then
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>>96817125
marineslop doesn't count because they could put a literal turd in a box and marinepiggies would still buy it
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>>96817138
Goalpost moving retard
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>>96816742
who cares. Show me your paintjobs instead.
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>>96817164
I'm not the anon you were arguing with, just thought I'd put that out there
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How's your painting going anons? I'm close to being done with this project.
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conquest is out here providing better proxies for empire
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>>96817269
Nigger, do you even know what scale Conquest is?
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>>96817269
Those are meant to rip off Age of Sigmar inner cities of Sigmar. They even have half the people being negros like in AoS.
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>>96817269
>better
Kek
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>>96817284
better proportions, better armor, and they have shoes, yes.
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>>96817301
And they're twice as big. Retard.
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>>96817317
huh. Maybe Ill just play this instead then.
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>>96817269
If we were in 2002 GW would have to be really worried about losing their top position.
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>>96817328
when was warmachine big again
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>>96817324
You don't play warhammer, why pretend? Post models, I bet you're going to post the same 2 you always do.
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Marauder release date when?
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>>96817466
January next year
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>>96817466
Generally things revealed on Mondays randomly get released in 1-2 months. It makes sense, since if it was an early Jan release they'd probably have just waited for the next reveal show in November. See: the new Drukhari models which were revealed and released in 1 month last month.
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>>96817466
probably for christmas together with the new battalion box for kangs
gotta have some shiny newly released products for the festivities
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>>96817268
I like the blue
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>>96817466
Kislev first Noscuck
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>>96817624
I'm surprised the Bretionan Battalion box hasn't been spoiled or revealed already
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>>96817729
Any guesses on the contents?
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>>96817745
Foot Knights, Knights of the Realm and peasants bowmen
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>>96817714
Give it up man
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>>96817745
>>96817761
Tons of foot knights because no one bought them
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>>96817729
what could it even contain?
the only plastic hero they have is the one on pegasus, and the only other plastic kit they haven't used in the current starter box is the foot knights
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>>96817871
It's not like the Battalion box and starter box can't have overlap, the TK one has a ton of Skeleton Warriors in it for no good reason.
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Okay fine I'll buy the bret starter box. Get out of my head already
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>>96817906
I'd argue that Battalion and starter boxes should overlap. They both are meant to introduction sets and TK is one that requires a skeleton tax.
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>>96817871
I mean we are starting to get new models, maybe we'll get battle pilgrims simping after a Lady
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>>96817906
the tomb king one seems like it's trying not to overlap too much, it has skeletons because skeletons are the army's fundamental building block, but it's got a different centerpiece and hero, and doesn't use the cavalry or chariots at all.
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>>96817936
They wouldn't drop a significant amount of brand new models into the permanent discount boxset.
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>>96817944
tbf they did with Cathay, but that's probably the exception since that was a new faction
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>>96817906
>a ton of Skeleton Warriors in it for no good reason.
Skeleton Warriors are much more useful than Tomb Guard desu
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>>96817745
60 foot knights
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>>96817871
>20 foot knights
>16 knights of the realms
>hero on pegasus
>peasant bowmen
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>>96818018
doubt it'll have a hero going off every other batallion box so far.
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>>96818037
I guess the TK will have one but that comes with the Necro Spinx model
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>>96818061
batallion boxes are a weird proposition for tk and brets and should have heralded new plastic core choices, the only point to it at present is if a new edition is imminent which may not be too farfetched.
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>>96810212
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>>96814591
>no browns
>no femoids
Uh ?
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>>96817945
Yes. On my dwarfs' armour.
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>>96818497
>Tfw no trad doe wife.
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>>96817745
Have it in front of me, 12 knights, lord/bsb on pegasus, men at arms, bowmen
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>>96817466

Do we know if its a limited release or if its a permanent part of the range?
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>>96819005
The big box is limited, the kits themselves arent.
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>>96815246
Hey, I was going to post that. Good taste, anon. Fuck yeah, we need more forest goblins.
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>>96818889
Why do bretts get an extra unit? All the other battalions are 3 boxes in one so what makes the bretts special.
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>>96813235
Worth a fuck.
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>>96809205
I noticed that even though WHF and WH40K are both "dialed up to 11 and grimderp/grimdark" that 40K seems to attract the types of powerwanking fans that do stuff like draw Space Marines beating the shit out of Storm Troopers.

I noticed in WHF this very rarely happens- this picture of Sigmar vs the Lich from Adventure Time is legitimately the only one I've ever found so far.

What about WHF doesn't attract the type of wanker that 40K does?
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>>96819400
Humans aren't top dog in WHF even if they are the POV character. In WH40k Humans are pretty easily the single biggest power block unless you count tyranids but they don't really have characters.
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>>96819420
Aren't they though? Don't get me wrong, they aren't anywhere near the bullshittery of humans in 40k, but in WHF humans are the closest to winning. Now if you say empire is winning? No, they aren't. Neither is Bretonnia, Kislev, Cathay, etc.
If you take it at a faction level, the setting is surprisingly close in power, only differing in scale. Wood elves for example are strong, but happy in their forest. Orcs are strong but spread themselves too thin to the point infighting would naturally occur. The strongest single race is probably Khemri, but they also won't take over the planet.
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>>96819569
That's the thing though, it's really spread out power wise. Humans in WH40k are Imperials or they are irrelevant (or chaos i guess)
The Imperium could pretty easily 1v1 any other faction in 40k.
The Empire would have massive issues 1v1ing most other factions that aren't Brettonia or Kislev.... and even then aren't they more united than the empire?
Also once ToW moves onto another edition what happens to the army books? Are they still relevant or do they get shit canned for a new one.
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>>96819420
I always liked how humans just got by on grit, ingenuity, and determination (fuck Brets). It's a colossal middle finger to chaos that some fucking chaos warrior could spend decades, if not centuries, fighting in the chaos wastes, get empowered by one or more gods, only to go down south and get his skull ventilated by some terrified 15-year-old conscript peasant who just learned to fire a musket two weeks ago.
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