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Green Edition

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/
https://www.unitcrunch.com
https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru

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>Pre 10th Torrent:
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>10th Edition Rules:
https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL
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>How to make wargames terrain:
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>Previous Thread:
>>96807132

>Thread Question:
Which edition has the best art direction?
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>Secret Santa:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/
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>>96813320
Why do you keep removing the community links
What is the point
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>Tau are so weak they don't get melee attacks
>Canon art has them buff as fuck
Which is it, because this fire warrior could kick someones teeth in
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I understand why people like the Imperium, it feels good to be on the winning side and to know that you’re the strongest kid on the block without any challengers to stop you.

And I get why people like xenos, it’s interesting to play a group of people desperately fighting for their survival while trying to avoid being noticed too much by the Imperium.

But why do people like Chaos?
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>>96813350
>But why do people like Chaos?
Contrarian edgelords and atheists.
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>>96813320
>Which edition has the best art direction?
I have a soft spot for 2nd
3rd/4th is pretty timeless too
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Zoggin 'ell

Itz Bootiful
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>>96813350
>But why do people like Chaos?
I like painting power armor with trim and spikes
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>>96813350
>But why do people like Chaos?
Sometimes it's fun to be the bad guy in fiction.
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>>96813349
but they have melee attacks.
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Post art
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>>96813349
Buff as fuck and 4.5 feet tall you mean.
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>>96813349
99% of bodybuilders would get immediately tapped out by a skinny guy who practices BJJ
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>>96813320
Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks
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>>96813350
but the imperium is losing thousands of worlds every day.
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>>96813371
So contrarianism.
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>>96813338
Will this even happen considering there's only 4 participants at this point?
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>>96813392
I mean I don't expect a Tau to 1v1 a space marine without armour but they don't look weaker than the average human
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>>96813386
And they’re conquering thousands more.
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>But why do people like Chaos?
Their catchphrase is let the galaxy burn.
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>>96813373
when i was 12 i thought this was the coolest thing i'd ever seen
i still do
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>>96813392
tau are just dudes while space marines are bio-engineered monstrosities.
comparison would make more sense between guardsman and fire warrior.
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Metal bawxes
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GG Deathwatch Vets
I will miss having useful loadouts and putting you in Rhinos with a character
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>>96813422
That pics been slightly edited for whatever reaons take the original
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>>96813350
>But why do people like Chaos?
They look cool
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>>96813391
>He has to be the 'good guy' in the fictional setting where everyone is an asshole
Were you bullied in school, anon?
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>>96813350
I play chaos cultists specifically because I enjoy how funny it is when a ragtag group of hobos rip apart a mortal god of war.
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>>96813435
Oh finally they actually put it out.

Just had a look at the Deathwatch pack, they forgot to remove the old veteran datasheet
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>>96813424
Tau are selectively bred dudes. They also treat war as a hunt. They are aware they cannont 1v1 a Marine, but that is fine because the Tau fight as a pack. Heroics is selfishness that endangers the pack.
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>Wakes up Guilliman
>Guilliman proceeds to invade their craftwork and slaughter them en masse
>Comes to warn Guilliman about invading the Pariah Nexus
>Guilliman calls them faggots and tells them to fuck off and does it anyways
>Tries to plead with a deathwatch marine of all things to not shoot them so they can kill Slaanesh
>Gets shot because they don’t understand how the Imperium works
Eldar are by far the most naive race desu, even more naive than the Tau, they know that trying to ally with the Imperium is pointless and yet they keep trying to do it.
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>>96813509
eldar are not that tall or extra thicc
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>>96813320
So is it Emperor of Humanity going forward, instead of Of Mankind? Based on that recent white dwarf, think they are shifting his title a bit
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>>96813448
My headcanon is that Talon of Horus is actually the pair to the Emperor's lightning claw, given as a gift.
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>>96813349
Being so weak as to not do melee is less a factor of being worse than Humans and more that Humans are too weak to do melee in 40k, we're just batshit enough to do it (and usually die horribly) anyway.
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>>96813543
First I've heard of that change
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>>96813424
Ok
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>>96813547
That's a great headcanon
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>>96813556
in that case you are not following enough right-wing grifter
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>>96813521
they definitely are that tall
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>>96813559
better
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>>96813373
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>>96813350
Honestly decent bait but you might be using it too often.
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>>96813572
nah
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It's a shame that Combat Patrol sucks so much compared with Spearhead. I would love to buy a new DE Combat Patrol box but I don't want to build a full army and I hate to have my minis collect dust.
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>>96813586
yeah
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>>96813392
>>96813559
>facebook image
>i have depicted humanity as the muscular chads and you as the tiny wimpy baby
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>>96813435
I'm convinced people only play 10th because it's the current edition/don't know better.
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>>96813350
>this still gets replies despite how fucking obvious it is
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>>96813591
nope
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>>96813581
Go away Taufag
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>>96813474
Got it, contrarianism.
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>>96813601
yep
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>>96813595
of course. and because they are tourney-fags
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>>96813589
There's always 11th ed anon.

Or that King of the Colosseum thing. That looks easy to break though.
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>>96813392
>>96813559
the taufag 'cord didn't like these ones
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>>96813556
Its literally a couple of word changes, they removed "these men shall give themselves to me", some other instances of "men" and guns and changed the Emperors title.

Thats it, but as usual far right fascists had a shitfit about it and cried on the internet for days
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>>96813602
I'm being honest, you're kinda burning this one out too quickly by milking it too hard. Fix your ADHD and wait a little longer between them.
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>>96813629
the marxists at work, ladies and gentlemen.
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"men" that play Tau give me the ick
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>>96813427
Based Repressor kitbash
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>>96813595
I play it because it has rules for models I want to play. I want to play eightbound, fulgrim,/all emperors children, Lion, all the new tyranid units etc.

If someone actually did rules for older editions for each new release other people would play it
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>>96813637
>Surprised that the faction with commissars is Marxist
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>>96813629
Not a big deal, doesn't really change the lore in any meaningful way.
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These looks surprisingly not shit for 3rd party demons. I like them quite a bit. Wish they only had one boob though. Thanks for posting anon maybe I'll get some.
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>>96813652
>primarch-fag
>loves current slop
should have known
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>>96813629
The change to the text about space marines is good refinement, could use a bit more. I always HATED the part about 'mightiest guns' so changing that to weapons is a huge improvment.
Changing Emperor of mankind to humanity is fucking cringe though. Master of mankind as that nice alliteration and is peak dumb cunt token progressivism. Since everyone who argues that point doesn't understand how the word 'human' 'man' and 'woman' developed lingusitcally independantly of each other. Mankind in this context means human.
But yes the culture war tourists love this kind of shit they can milk this for like 8 months
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>>96813664
what are they called
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>>96813629
Archtards have been saying femarines are coming for 10+ years I've been following warhammer.
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>>96813670
https://bestiarumgames.com/products/demonettes-the-court-of-balazar

This site has some gold stuff desu. Great sculps. Glad anon linked them last thread.
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>>96813659
>it's just some sand in the sea who the fuck cares
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>>96813692
The Imperium had always been inclusive so long as you’re human
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>>96813356
I prefer the colorful art much more than the blurry grey slop we have now, so much character in each artwork .
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>every other thread is coomerbait in OP
>every thread starts off with obvious imperiumwank bait
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I'm not even a coomer but some of these sculpts are go pretty hard.

>>96813695
Yea, there were always strong womyn in the guard even in the 2000s when I got into it.
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>>96813673
After 15 years in the hobby I still dont get the big deal. We all accepted Primaris and its just the same process - oh Cawl got the geneseed to work with women now, so lets double our recruitment.

Done. Same lore as primaris, the majority of fans get what they've been demanding for years and far-right grogs get out the hobby.

win/win
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>>96813664
>Wish they only had one boob though.
Bro removing a boob is like couple clicks in Blender
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>>96813673
You could just put the aquila on the boob armor.
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>>96813373
Peak art that got me into the army immediately.
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>>96813706
Sometimes I really feel like I'm suffering from stockholm syndrome. This place is so fucking awful but no matter how many times I leave I keep coming back. Send help.
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>>96813712
>We all accepted Primaris
You may have been in the hobby for 15 years but if your balding stupid ass believes this then you haven't been in 40kg for more than 15 minutes.
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>>96813664
Disgusting coomer filth!
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Pretty sure these are the guys that made minis from Alex bocas designs, he's does great work
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>>96813615
>tourney-fags
Real talk:

I get competition in general; some people do it because of ego, some do for the thrill, others for the personal challenge. I get it.

I also get non-physical competition, chess, GO, strategy stuff.
Same goes for skills like knitting or writing.

But, there are two things here I really, really don't get:
1) Making a competition from a game.
I think everyone here knows what e-sports are, it was a big craze a decade ago, still alive today. We all saw how the people in charge of those game followed the money and changed good games for the worse.
So already I don't get why you'd take a fun activity and focus on the winning aspect; that's always a sure way to make the players forget about the other parts since they detract from winning; that's why games get streamlined heavily.
2) And that's the big WTF I have: making a competition around a DICE BASED GAME.
The entire POINT of dice based games is for the randomness, so that things aren't set in stone and even the little guy has a chance. Why? Because it's fun to watch. It creates fun, unpredictable scenarios.

SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPETING IN A CHANCE BASED GAME?
It's like two guys sitting in front of a slot machine and telling me about how they're tilting the machine or yanking the handle to increase the chance of getting a prize.
>If I come on Monday between 3 and 4 the casino has increased chance of winning to compensate for the lower amount of players
>If you order red win the dealer is more likely to deal you a good card

Your whole fucking game can be lost because of a bad roll, you can be the better player and you can still lose, how is that a competition if the best doesn't win??
>I just pick the options that avoid rolls and stratagems to give me what I want
>Yes I avoid touching specific parts of the intentional game design, that's how you win
ARE YOU FUCKERS RETARDED??

Thank you for reading my blod/ramblings.
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>>96813712
We accepted Primaris? All my niggas still shit on the Primaris Cawl asspull nearly 9 years later
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>>96813728
Get ready for Bimaris then Trimaris in the future anon, they're going to look like ripped Sumo wrestlers in armor.
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>>96813725
The banner bearer looks like your average dude in a metal festival wtf
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>>96813669
>Mankind in this context means human.
Pretty much everyone who isn't mentally deficient understands this.
I'm ESL and I've known that ever since I learned english when I was little. Only reason why somebody wouldn't understand it or know it is because they are genuinely stupid or they have let their mind be rotted dumb progressivist bullshit
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>>96813652
We play homerules and use old templates for unit profile generation
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>>96813373
I wonder if theres a good third party model that looks like this guy
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>>96813756
Hemipenis.
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>>96813749
>>96813728
And yet you still play the game, collect the models and paint your minis. Introducing them didnt ruin anything for you, Ergo neither would some marines just happen to be women now. You wouldnt even need to include any in your armies - how many of you collect chaos? Bile already made fem marines and that changed nothing
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>>96813752
Get in the mosh bro
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>>96813712
>We all accepted Primaris
That's why we get the classic marines updated like terminator armor etc
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>>96813706
You haven't been teleporting bread have you?
Anyway it wasn't the coomerfag who made this OP and removed the community links.

>>96813712
I know this is bait, but I think male marines is a bridge to far even for most lefties. As much as you want to say all libtards are screaming tumblerinas like its 2014, I do think most left leaning people in warhammer GET that marines are a monastic brotherhood. I'm not saying there arent perma online types that dont say otherwise, Ive talked to them. But I'm left leaning and I would be pretty upset if they made female marines. I do think marines being all male is a good aesthetic choice, the setting as a whole is inclusive (all are equally accepted to genocide aliens and mutants) with plenty of grimdank racism (cadians are racist for example).

I'm also not saying these companies dont often employ the college educated trained artists with dyed blue hair that want this to happen, I just think GW probably knows it would upset too many people to be worth it even if there are people in studio pushing for it. We basically got female marines with SoB anyway and they are very popular. At the end of the day, warhammer is a 99% male hobby.
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>>96813373
I like this one. Not a big fan of chaos marines either but I think this one is really cool.
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>>96813748
>SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPETING IN A CHANCE BASED GAME?
let me tell you about poker
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>>96813760
This is what I am saying. Mankind = humanity but saying humanity is just a bit more acceptable in todays world. Doesnt change his title at all in context. But manchilds are mad at their dollys again
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>>96813509
>craftwork
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>>96813774
>>96813749
>>96813728
None of you were in the hobby before primaris nor do you own any miniatures that predate them, stop larping.
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>>96813790
but enough about you.
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>>96813764
meglike does one, but its in a set of 4 other nobz, no warboss annoyingly
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>>96813559
HFYbros???
our response?????
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>>96813748
You can still be good at chance based games. Poker is a great example, it has a strong element of luck and probability variation but there are people who consistently come out in the top 1% of competitions. Lots of TCGs like MTG for example clearly have a very high skill ceiling. 40k does have players who consistently make it to the top tables every time they play because they ARE that good and the game does have high skill expression even with its randomness.

And the vast majority of people at the top tables are chill people who don't crash out over a bad roll.

The RNG and Asymmetry are what make it exciting, and its why stuff like OPR which feels insanely bland aren't really fun and will never take off.
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>>96813712
>We all accepted Primaris
Nah, still ass, still a cashgrab, still a shitty primaris refresh, still ugly as fuck, still normie-bait.
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>>96813791
>no u
kek
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>96813748
>2) And that's the big WTF I have: making a competition around a DICE BASED GAME.
>The entire POINT of dice based games is for the randomness, so that things aren't set in stone and even the little guy has a chance. Why? Because it's fun to watch. It creates fun, unpredictable scenarios.
exactly my point. competitive warhammer is cringe, especially when it leads to boring ass rules as we have them in 10th.
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>>96813788
I'm annoyed I don't get this joke
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>>96813802
>seething
gottem
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>>96813629
They wouldn't go out of their way to change it if they didn't havet an agenda
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>>96813796
He killed the Land Shark *after* it took half of his torso, anon. He's also a Catachan, that's minor-level plot armor compared to 'nids having none because they're not unique characters.
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>>96813812
sounds like a nomodels projection but keep at it
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>>96813790
I still dislike primaris and I have been playing on and off since 4th ed and have models going back to Rogue Trader
I don't know why you always seem to get upset that people don't like the new styles of armour
If i were to say I dont like centurion armour you probably would not have so visceral a reaction
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>>96813818
Sorry to hear. You'll have money for models one day.
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>>96813817
Why Catachans pissed themselves in fear when they saw a Zoanthrope in Deathworlder though?
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>>96813828
type that without crying next time, nomodels
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>>96813712
It's because we're incels that hate women (and that's a based thing)
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>>96813629
If I cut off the very tip of your big toe with a sword you shouldn't be mad because barely anything has changed
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>>96813706
Imperiumwank is never going to go away, they’re the protagonists of the setting and the strongest faction and they’re human so nobody minds them being overpowered as fuck
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>>96813835
Discretion is the better part of valor.
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>>96813783
>>96813797
True, but poker is about money, so it's just gambling by gambling.
Unless there are poker competition where you only get a trophy and a handshake.

It's not about being good, you can be the best and still lose, that's the issue.

>he RNG and Asymmetry are what make it exciting
Exactly, that's why it exists, and thrills are also one reason people compete, it's the same logic as gambling, but it's also the antithesis of a competition.

It's like a swimming race but each swimmer had to roll for the length they had to swim: same finish lane, just some have to swim 150m, others 200m, one guy 100m.
And yes: in this scenario you can still be good at swimming.
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>>96813769
>how many of you collect chaos? Bile already made fem marines and that changed nothing
This is disingenuous. I don't know the exact details but they are some wacky science experiment that appeared in a book nobody read or remembers and never mentioned again. Female space marines, even if you don't build them in your army, would appear on the cover of every space marine codex, novel, artwork. Stories would revolve around them, hell some model releases might be fully female for some reason (stance for example). These examples are not the same.
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>>96813637
>Capitalism does something anon doesn't like
>Anon blames Marxism
It's funny every time!
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>>96813811
Kraftwerk were a 70s german electronic band
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>>96813855
>they’re the protagonists of the setting
Settings don't have protagonists and you'd look like a total idiot trying to talk about being "the protagonist" in a Crusade game, anon-chan. It's like insisting being the protagonist of a D&D party, at the very best social dynamics can lead to an emergence of a "party face" much like a narrative campaign is probably gonna have a campaign manager/guy who is most into it, but thats far from guaranteed to be an imperium faction, really
>the strongest faction
Objectively false.
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>>96813320
waaagh!
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>>96813728
Only people who I see kvetch over primaris are either on here, which isn't surprising because 4chan has always been contrarian, and other times I see any kvetching it's just some random dudes in youtube comment sections when someone like Arch or Outer Circle.

Go anywhere else and genuinely nobody gives a fuck about the primaris at this point.
They are just marines and GW has addressed most of the pain points with them, mainly being they looked too bland.
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>>96813840
We don't sign our posts here.
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>>96813835
because zoans are overpowered as fuck and 1 shot you through walls with nothing you can do.

>>96813861
while money is involved the point of a poker tournament at high level is not gambling. they get provided the money and the winner is the one who walks away with the most chips. its not a buy in, its an invitational with sponsors.
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>>96813869
>they are some wacky science experiment that appeared in a book nobody read or remembers and never mentioned again
not quite, they have initially mentioned in 4E CSM codex
1) they have consistently appeared more than once ever since
2) they're a mixture of Space Marine & Eldar genetics with installed Space Marine organs
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>>96813769
Ntab as an old marinefag it did the opposite.
I stopped playing newer editions, I stopped buying new marines, and introducing them did ruin a lot: I have my old stuff and that's it, there isn't more marines like those coming and then if I want more I'll have to find other ways.
It very much changed my normal for the worst.

But let's be real: you're just a disingenuous faggot, no point in arguing with people like you.
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>>96813748
>SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPETING IN A CHANCE BASED GAME?
No offence, but you do realize competitive poker exists as well, right?
It's just as stupid as you can imagine but it is real.
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>>96813880
Okay, they’re the face of the setting then.

And they’re definitely the strongest faction anon. They pretty much do every other faction’s schtick better than that faction. The Adeptus Mechanicus was able to out-tech the necrons when Guilliman invaded the Pariah Nexus. We’ve seen Marines run straight through Shurikan Cannons with their fire bouncing harmlessly off of their ar or and turns the Eldar into paste just by running through them. It takes a million Tau just to distract 1,000 space marines and they still lose.

It’s not that the Imperium is particularly strong per se. It’s that all of their enemies are pathetic and weak.
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>>96813874
thanks anon
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>>96813914
>Okay, they’re the face of the setting then.
Again, your silly notions of tribalism are incredulously misplaced and idfk why you're even trying to insist on any of the points you're trying to make.
Stand up.
Walk towards the mirror, imagine you're at an LGS and then read your post out loud.
You're looking and behaving like a total mouthbreather, check yourself before you embarrass yourself.
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>>96813914
you only read marine novels / codex. Every faction gets wanked in their fluff except Eldar.
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>>96813905
I don't know anything about competitive poker, so I can't say much.
>the winner is the one who walks away with the most chips.
Is that just a point system or are they like actual chips (exchanged for money)?
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>>96813845
False equivalence. One is a made up setting for toys.

>>96813911
So GW doesnt need to appeal to cry baby incels like you then, may as well make femarines since you righties dont fucking buy warhammer anyway. No wonder GW are on our side
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>>96813928
the represent money but its pokers way of doing winnings. in a chess tournament 1st place also gets more money. they still get a minimum payout just for being invited.
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Why are people engaging with an obvious troll yet again
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>>96813912
I'm sure it does, but it raises the same questions in my head.

But maybe they don't really compete in the proper sense: the point isn't to see who is "the best" but the competition itself: the journey and not the destination kinda thing?
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>>96813911
>i don't buy GW stuff anymore
Just means there's no real reason for them to care about you or to cater to you either.
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>>96813952
>the journey and not the destination kinda thing?
no, if that was the case every poker tournament would be a random assortment of people every time. and yet the best poker players in the world consistently make it to the highest levels of competition because they are better at the game. the same with MTG and 40k, both games with random probability elements but still a huge skill element.
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>>96813935
Nothing changed though it's just the tip so who cares?
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>>96813948
>I disagree with someone
>that makes them a troll
Grow up.
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>>96813911
nta but I sympathize with you, but at the same time I just kind of feel like GW genuinely doesnt care about you because you already have your old marines and they can make WAY more money with more broad appeal stuff like primarchs and primaris etc

Also while I love many old marine models the primaris scale looks much better. I would love to see old models upscaled into primaris scale without the baggage of primaris worse designs.
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>>96813952
Real truth is that humans are weird and retarded and we will make competition out of anything if we can. No matter how weird an inpractical.
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>Xenosfags mad about being (correctly) told that they're NPCs
I usually hate reruns but this one's funny.
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>>96813955
Buy from GW:
>You're just an uncritical paypig they don't have any incentive to change
Don't buy from GW:
>Why would they care what you think they don't have any incentive change
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>>96813935
>cry baby incels righties our side
Bait used to be funny, this is depressing.

>>96813955
>Don't buy bad product:
>Well no reason to cater to you then!
>Buy bad product
>Well it's selling, if you didn't want more then you shouldn't have bought it!

Retarded faggots be hella stupid like that.

>>96813948
Because baiters are twink trans femboys craving the attention of older men, they just want to be put in their place, the kinky fucks.
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>>96813987
Anime and 40k don't belong together
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>>96813982
>Still talking to NPCs after they start repeating dialogue
That one's on you
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>>96813998
Chuds and 40k don't belong together.
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>>96813982
Post your protagonist models anon
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>>96813983
That's just how shit goes with companies.
You're no longer the target demographic and haven't been for like 10+ years, so they don't care at all if you buy their shit or not.
And it doesn't matter anyway since for every person like you who stop buying GW stuff, there's 5 others who don't share your sentiments and just buy GW shit anyway.
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>>96813987
Sisters Frontline or Imperial Arknights
Make your call, we only get one.
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>>96813987
>It is trolling to hold the view of the majority of warhammer gamers
Just because it doesnt hit in this echo chamber doesnt make it trolling. Grim derp man club was always shit and GW knows it hence why we've got female custodes, changes in language, a more "noblebright" hopeful imperium with primarchs returning etc.

I dont like marvel, but marvel sells, sells big. Chasing that style of genre will do big money in 40k. As proved in this thread, appealing to right wing nutjobs doesnt make you money since they keep their decades old manlet shits anyway.
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>>96813982
It’s funny cause like, there are fun stories to be told with xenos. Everybody loves a heroic last stand against overwhelming odds, and that’s precisely what you get with xenos, you’re basically seeing the courageous last hurrah of the Necrons/Eldar/Tau before the Imperium wipes them out, the rage against the dying of the light so to speak.
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These guys make great stuff. This guy looks like he's walked off the page of a Lovecraft story. High priests of chaos should be as mutated and fucked up as this guy
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>>96813396
Why wouldn't it happen?
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>>96814010
I mentioned no posts but I'm glad it struck a nerve.
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>>96814001
I'm a leftist and I hate anime. It's purely wish fulfillment for little incel manchildren and it's sexist. Japan is an oppressive racist and sexist society
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>>96814012
>you’re basically seeing the courageous last hurrah of the Necrons/Eldar/Tau
Those factions aren't human therefore they don't count. In all honesty it's debatable if you could even call them courageous, let alone heroic.
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>>96813997
>>Don't buy bad product:
>>Well no reason to cater to you then!
>>Buy bad product
>>Well it's selling, if you didn't want more then you shouldn't have bought it!
Both of these are correct.
GW is too big to fail at this point. Only thing that will actually do them in and kill them as a company is that if they keep jacking up their prices every year because they'll just outprice everyone out of buying their shit.
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>>96814013
Too overdetailed and doesn't fit 40k scale & style at all, this would fit better in Cthulhu Death May Die or some shit
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>>96814008
Arknights
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>hey GW can we please get something besides marines, lots of chaos and xenos factions could use new or updated models
GW: Well shore! Here's some Bretonnian knights throwing a pig skin around! Hyuck hyuck huck
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>>96814026
>Literal thinking is strongly associated with autism. People with autism may have difficulty understanding abstract forms of communication, like sarcasm, idioms, and metaphors.
I'm not saying this model specifically anon just this style of body horror and alieness
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>>96814022
If anything they’re even more courageous for it. A tau is weaker and smaller than a human, with more primitive equipment and 1/100000000th the manpower, and yet the Tau fight on to the end in spite of their fear to protect their people
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>>96814032
I think you got the wrong thread, this isnt 40k related
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>>96814027
Very well
>Radical Inquisitor utilizes his DAOT Frigate full of recruited abhumans, psykers, and sanctioned xenos to fight Chaos
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>>96814032
They gave EC 7 kits and no options, aren’t you happy????
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>>96814041
You only think that because you have poor reading comprehension.
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>>96814033
Chaos is Jungian/Faustian and GW have always failed at "alieness" part both sculpt-wise (just look at the daemons) and fluff-wise
So, meh, doesn't really fit either
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>>96814048
No im pretty sure thats a bloodbowl mini!
I hope this helps!!
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>The reddit guy is back again pretending everyone wants femmarines and femstodes
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>>96814038
>with more primitive equipment
????
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>>96814013
Is this model actually appealing to anyone? Hes a fat disgusting slob who would probably be no model if he actually existed.
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Xenotards hate to hear it but "Space Marines" isn't one army it's at least 12 entirely different armies with some minor cross compatibility
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>>96814044
But anon, the Inquisitor IS a xenos
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>>96814032
>lots of chaos and xenos factions could use new or updated models
Not really, most stuff has been updated bar DEldar or people who think EC/TS/WE need/deserve DG-levels of exposure (DG were a passion project of a singular designer from France)
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>>96814068
Shh, it's a secret, his Felinid psyker assistant is keeping it under wraps.
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>>96814005
No I get it, I just get annoyed when people argue that any one anon is personally responsible for GW putting out slop
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>>96814064
>Minor Cross Compatibility
>Every vanilla marine kit is also a special boy kit inflating sales
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>>96813975
You're spot on.

New marines aren't for me, absolutely true, the primaris go in pair with the 40k rebrand: they are for a new generation.

I also second that I'd love "modernized" marine kits. I'm not a fan of primaris proportions (shoulder to leg ratio) but the height is fine.

Hell, I do like the idea of a new generation fighting with the old one: back then it was entirely possible to make your entire chapter based around (a) specific mark(s).

My only gripes can be summarized as such:
>The look of primaris armor (could always redesign them for my own taste)
>The structure of kits / kitbashing
>The replacement (can be worked around)
>The unit bloat (can use homebrew)

TL;DR: I agree 100% with you. Cheers
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>>96814060
i'd honestly have endless coomer posting than the same guy posting bait again
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>>96814057
>looking at a picture is the same as reading
Troll detected
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>>96814078
Add to the gripes the fucking rollbars on all primaris vehicles and the fucking stubbers instead of heavy bolters.
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>>96814082
Would Terrans technically qualify as Abumans?
Kinda weird the only notable animal abhumans are either Felinids or full on Beastmen.
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>>96814071
And what makes you think EC/WE/TS shouldnt have passion projects?
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>>96813978
Well yes, I am a human an am tarded. do you want to see who can piss the furthest?
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>>96814086
Anon those are both humans, the bloodbowl trolls are much taller and are usually blue or green
I think you meant to post in >>96804923
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I'm loving all this bait. Feed me more.
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Sisters?
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So how bout them models and games?

When is the last time you took a posed shot with your minis and a friend’s, have you ever?
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>>96814103
Its str8 up baitville in this MF'er, but I'm just coastin while roastin these fool ya dig?
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>>96814087
Insane worldview but I think the stubbers could work, but they shouldn't have replace bolters/stormbolters.
I think it's just normie shit they can understand.

What I'm really mad about are the shitty gatling guns. Assault cannons master race.

The rollbars are fucking gay. 'nuff said
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>>96814061
The Imperium is absolutely more advanced than the Tau. They have Emperor class Titan, weapons that distort time and shift ships ever so slightly into the future so it exists within itself and suddenly explodes, and even weapons so advanced that they erase the target from reality, including the very memory that they ever existed.

Nothing that the Tau have can even come close to that, they’re way behind on the tech race, the Imperium has a 40,000 year advantage on them.
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>>96814092
Marine players don’t actually look at number of kits, they see “hey we only got 2-3 releases and you got 1, it’s basically the same!” Despite their 3 releases being 20+ kits per edition and other faction’s release being 2-10 kits over two editions.
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>>96814114
The tau tech floor is higher, the imperium’s tech ceiling is higher. That tau can mass produce their stuff, the imperium’s tech takes centuries to build some of their big stuff and in a lot of cases can’t even do that.
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>>96814095
Here's your (You), troll. Is it nummy nummy in your tummy? Lol
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>>96814060
tbf i think most people here dont care either way. its only a minority of vocal weirdos who want or really dont want it. I'm cool with femmarines
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>>96814108
Fuck off we don’t play the game anymore we’re just here to complain and talk about how things used to be better.
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>>96814091
I dont think so since they were never human to begin with
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>>96814121
It doesn’t matter because the Imperium is so much bigger. If the Imperium wanted to they could just literally stomp on the Tau Empire with an army of 10,000 Emperor class Titans recreating the Rumbling and there’s nothing the Tau could do to stop them.
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>>96814131
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>>96814131
You're the reddit guy he's talking about
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>>96814118
Nta but as a marinefag I don't look at the amount of kits: you can shit out 10 kits but if they are shit, they are shit.
10 new characters? Don't care.
1 actually new and interesting kit? A new vehicle/weapon/cool bit? Now we're talking.

And as much as I like marines I want other factions to get lots of stuff too, especially when I see the amount of garbage marine kits there are.
When are Eldars getting picrel in plastic? That's hype af.
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>>96814108
It's been way too long since I got to play with my friends and pose stuff
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>>96814131
I think its weird to be ok with femmarines unless you aren't really invested in the setting.
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>>96814131
Female marines would be a disaster and completely ruin my immersion into the Grim Darkness of the setting. Watching Titus slaughter demons by hand is awesome, we don't need Becky the butch showing up and complaining about her period cramps. Begone Secondary filth!
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>>96814108
Necron Thousand Sons?? What daa heellll
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>>96814143
The Mechanicus refused to send titans to fight Tau for a while after the Manta was introduced into the Tau Armory because it was just sniping them from orbit .
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The baiters got baited haha
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>>96814168
Yeah but that’s just because the Mechanicus are a bunch of greedy hoarders. They would, if they could, let their Titans sit safely on their forge worlds never ever being sent into battle.

If the Imperium ever managed to get control over the Mechanicus and force them to unleash their Titans on the enemy, every enemy would be defeated in a matter of years.
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>>96814171
Not really, what we have here is actually a bait off, they are both building up to a massive bait crescendo where one of them will claim the title of Master Baiter and rule 40kg for a month and get there models put on a plaque and placed on a wall.
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>>96814182
>They would, if they could, let their Titans sit safely on their forge worlds never ever being sent into battle.
You know nothing of the mechanicus and the titan legions if you honestly think that
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>>96813392
Yet the tau wins most engagements lmao
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>>96813435
I'm still miffed I missed out on grabbing a few boxes of DW vets before they squated them, new-on-sprue copies are going for a minimum of about twice MSRP and I refuse to touch pr*marislop models.
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>>96814186
bold of you to assume either of them has any models
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>>96814186
>Master Baiter
I think they hold that title every night
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>The year is 40k (tm)
>The Colt 1911 is still in service
Too silly, even for GW standarts
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>>96814118
Another notable factor on that point is that Marine models even amongst subfactions are highly modular, while other factions aren't close to being as modular even within their own faction.
Forcinstance compare the recent string of Captain releases to, say, the Kroot release for Tau this edition.
Each individual captain is meant to represent their respective subfaction, but even then most of them require little effort to turn them into a generic character of a similar role, usually with just a headswap and some detail trimming, therefore even if a Marine player does not use the associated Subfaction, they can still get the model and use it for their own subfaction with relatively minimal work.
Meanwhile, Tau players got a wave of models that are exclusively Kroot. They cannot be anything but Kroot, and cannot be used as a substitute for other Tau models. If a Tau player does not care for Kroot, then they get zero new models this edition from mainline 40k, and their faction suffers due to poor sales if a majority of Tau players wanted something other than Kroot. So going forward, ALL Tau releases will be lessened because of an unpopular splinter wave giving GW the impression people don't like Tau.
Marine bias is insituted quite literally by the very design of Marines.
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>>96814108
I accidentally kept feeding the daemon prince kills all game
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>>96814012
>you’re basically seeing the courageous last hurrah of the Necrons/Eldar/Tau before the Imperium wipes them out
Where are retards like you coming from? Eldar are definitely a dead and dying race but the Necrons are always stated to be constantly getting stronger as more wake up. The Tau have been expanding unopposed across the galaxy.

The point of the setting is that the Imperium is losing on a macro level. They can win fights and individual campaigns but its all part of a general downslide.
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>>96814209
>ALL Tau releases will be lessened because of an unpopular splinter wave giving GW the impression people don't like Tau.
Tau players rejected the Kroot generally though.
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>>96814217
He's trolling
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>>96814220
Not the tournament players, who spend all the money.
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>>96813320
I've tried looking this up but I can't find anything conclusive, maybe y'all can help me... how do I actually tell if a space marine unit is close support, fire support, or battleline?
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>>96814220
That's kinda the point anon. Kroot are neat but not particularly popular even amongst Tau players. Making an entire wave of them and then slapping the Tau name on top of it just means that Tau sales suffer.
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>>96813711
Nta but there's a massive difference between the token hot army babe in a bikini and leopard print spandex and a 50/50 split between dudes and women so ugly they may as well be men. Not to mention the lazy headswaps, even Sigmarines get tittyplate
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>>96814092
Codex bloat, all Cult Legions should've been CSM Codex Supplements just like Black Templar
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This is why no one wants to participate in secret santa
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>>96814231
>close support
>fire support
what edition do you think this is?
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>>96814208
Just silly enough, exactly GW standards.
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>>96814237
When that happens for loyalist space marines we can talk.
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>>96814251
No you don't understand the loyalist blood blood and wolf wolf chapters need their own book to be fully realised!
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>>96814245
It's not part of army building rules anymore but it is still part of space marine livery and I want to be accurate
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>>96814240
There is a toxic culture of bullying and harassment of model posters here, we need a dedicated team of Jannies to monitor this place 24/7 to filter out the wretched scum that infests this general.
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>>96814214
MVP were the tankbustas with an incredible overwatch that killed a forgefiend to take out his last big piece
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>>96814235
Ah I misunderstood. One would thing though if GW beancounters see every Tau player bought 6 riptides and no kroot they would just release more suits in the future.
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>>96814236
No, guard was always had tons of women. Cain even led an all female division in 2003.
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I really can't decide if I like reaper's wager or kabalite cartel more. On one hand sustain or lethals gives the backbone of my army - 30 kabalites and 3 ravagers - a substantial boost, but on the other re-roll 1's to hit from the wager is real good AND all of the strategems are viable to use.

I am being drawn in by reaper's fuck yo overwatch strategem.
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>>96814249
And based. Based as hell
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>>96814257
Yes...and?
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>>96814260
Firstborn use old heraldy, primaris had to reinvent everything and dont have tactical markings anymore.
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>>96814265
Cain isn’t canon
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Are the Holiday box sets actually hard to get? I keep hearing about
>muh scalpers
but is that a real concern?
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>>96814269
Call me Toe cuz I'm stubbin'
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>>96814237
>>96814251
Every Chapter and Legion that has an active Primarch deserves their own Codex. Primarchs are the main characters of 40k and should be treated as such.
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>>96814288
scalpers or not they will sell out
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>>96814288
Anything that’s limited and GW draws scalpers in like flys
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>>96814217
The Necrons are an aging and decaying race that have grown so frail they find themselves being out-teched by the Mechanicus and who cannot stop the Imperium from casually waltzing into their territory and blowing up their projects. And the Tau are an empire so small that if the Imperium ever spared them more than half a millisecond of thought they would be annihilated with barely any effort at all. The Imperium has 1 million worlds, the Tau have, what? Maybe 1,000 at most?
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>>96814281
>has a model
>not canon
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>>96814302
Holy fuck what do you get of acting like such a retard here every single fucking day? Is this like legitimate autism? Some other form of mental illness? Or are you just this fucking bored? I struggle to understand
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>>96814271
those eldar really are fancy boys
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>>96814277
Are you sure? All the 10e codexes still have tactical designations.

Regardless, even if true that's boring as hell so I'm gonna just say mine are firstborn. Now are you gonna answer the question or not
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>>96814302
Oh boy this bs again...
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>>96814302
>1000 worlds
isn't it even less than that? Isn't the Farsight Enclave only a dozen or so worlds?
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>>96814319
Anon, we’re making fun of you for being a delusional retard.
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>>96814302
>they find themselves being out-teched by the Mechanicus
This is a lorelet take unless you have source? Please post the exact page where this is mentioned.
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>>96814208
Why? If it works, it works
Pic related, a design thousands of years old, still works fine
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>>96814319
I think some posters legitimately have lead poisoning
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>>96814330
>Please post the exact page where this is mentioned.
Page 35
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>>96814324
Some say a bit too fancy...
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>>96814329
>we
So it's also a multiple personality disorder? You really need help buddy
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>>96814294
Sorry it appears my valiant, heroic 120 Necron Warriors/Cultists/Termagants have removed your main character as a casualty from the board.
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>>96814330
During the Pariah Crusade the Mechanicus was using DAoT technology so powerful and devastating against the Necrons that the Necrons considered it a dishonorable war crime and were in fear of it
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>>96814332
The experts are saying lead is good for you though.
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>>96814314
So this is canon too right?
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>>96814341
I had a Fulgrim get beat to death by a pack of Wulfen.

Primarchs are fucking stupid and I wish we stopped getting any. The Wolf fans are going to be fucking obnoxious if/when Leman is released.
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>>96814341
Merely wounded, he'll be back next time.
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>>96814266
And I referenced artwork from rigue trader, yes. I'm not denying their existence, I'm pointing out the execution is woefully lacking. Back in the day the guard fielded literal amazons with laspistols, now they field norf mutants with man bodies.

It's also very poor form to cite a book series that intentionally subverts your expectations of Warhammer lore
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>>96814330
Cawl literally keeps a necron waifu in his ship and lets her hack his computers and shoot him with guns as a game to pass the time. She has necron drones she controls and he hacks them and takes them from her effortlessly.
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>>96814353
>The Wolf fans are going to be fucking obnoxious if/when Leman is released.

Its going to be so glorious that I may cream myself.
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>>96814352
Yes, da red gobbo is canon.
He has been since Gorkamorka.
Did you think this was some kind of gotha?
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Stop replying to the troll ffs
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>>96814331
That's actually a very good point, damn.
But realistically, compard to other 40K weapons, the .45 feels like a pea shooter against anything that's not an unarmored cannon fodder type of humanoid.
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>>96814314
>santa grot is canon too
Tfw your demigod last hope of a dying empire dies to a fucking Christmas goblin
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>>96814365
So his pet snowman lives on Gorkamorka too?
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>>96814378
You mean the bomb?
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>>96814328
I was being extra generous since we’re never given an exact number. Either way the Tau can’t hope to survive when they’re so small and weak and primitive.
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>>96814396
>primitive

The Imperium would absolutely roll the Tau but the Tau are not primitive dude...
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>>96814405
They absolutely are. Even their plasma rifles are inferior to Imperium plasma.
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>>96814343
>were in fear of it
You can stop shitposting now. That's how you blew it.
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>>96814262
Put the trip back on
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>>96813373
>thin guns
aaaaaa
>>96813756
>Malice finally got art
Based. I wish he was a companion tho
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>>96814450
Stalking me again chief?

>>96814441
I don't know enough about eithers plasma technology so I will have to concede the argument in your favor.
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>>96813320
I like orks :D
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>>96814358
>t. gets his lore from youtube shorts
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>>96814441
>Imperial Plasma is flat 1 damage, and had to give itself a 1/6 chance to kill yourself for D:2
>Tau Plasma is flat D:3 with no chance to kill yourself
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>>96814460
That’s the thing about the Tau. They don’t have any technology that the Imperium doesn’t have better and more of.

Plasma? Imperium has more, and better.
Battlesuits? Imperium has superior and more dreadnoughts, knights, and Titans.
Shields? Imperium’s are stronger.
Warp travel? Imperium’s is faster and less risky.
Robots? Imperium has true AI from the DAoT, the Tau just has shitty drones with the intelligence of a squirrel.

The Imperium is the embodiment of “everything you can do, I can do better”
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>>96814481
Cawl fixed all the problems with plasma, it no longer explodes on you, get fucked Taufag
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>>96814502
?
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>>96814507
They haven’t updated it in the tabletop yet but in lore this is the case
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>>96814262
It's only you and a couple other massive faggots that get bullied, and for good reason. Doing this shit will actually alienate you from the community even further but you do you, I guess.
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>>96814489
>The Imperium is the embodiment of “everything you can do, I can do better”
except the distribution of said equipment onto the actual average troops
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>>96813648
Its not so much a kitbash as it is the repressor kit and a new SoB rhino
I guess I did steal the heavy flamer from another kit but that's it
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>>96814527
Yea sure bud
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>>96814489
>Imperium has true AI
no, it doesn't, they removed them
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>>96814530
The lasgun is a perfectly good weapon for the Imperium’s needs. They could give all of their Guardsmen plasma weapons, but then what happens when they run out of ammo? The lasgun can be recharged just by leaving it out in the sun, or throwing it into a campfire. It is a superior weapon for an army’s logistical needs.
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>>96814544
They still keep some in reserve or just reclassify them as “machine spirits”
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Emperor's Children or World Eaters?
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>>96814557
>half an army with a shitty Primarch
or
>half an army with a shitty Primarch
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>>96814489
This is the way I feel in general, I did not even have the Tau on my radar of big tuff guys until I started seeing all this Pro Tau anti Imperium shit here for the last week.
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>>96814557
As someone who owns 30 eightbound, World Eaters
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>>96814343
No, it was that the Necrons thought it was dishonorable to use their superweapons on the humans.
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>>96814565
Yes
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>>96814566
Yep, xenos fans get real butthurt when you point out that their factions have no reason to even exist in the setting other than to make the Imperium look stronger and better in comparison.
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>>96814570
>30 eightbound
Impossible.
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>>96814570
ITS
TIME
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>>96814302
>casually waltzing into their territory
The Admech had to unleash irreplaceable Dark Age superweapons that also blew themselves up, there was absolutely nothing casual about it
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>>96814543
You will never
>be on the fridge
>be in a collage
>have your recipe posted on the community site
and it's all your own fault.
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>>96814578
You went too far with your shitposts, the jig is up.
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>>96814557
EC only cause they are shiny and new.
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>>96814557
Angron is the best looking primarch in the game
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>>96814587
DAoT weapons are fucking disposable, let’s not kid ourselves anon, they’re so disposable that the Imperium uses them against the fucking Tau even knowing they’ll be lost in the process
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>>96814589
The Collage anon is letting me on next month, try again loser :)

>>96814596
His model is nice enough but he's just such a retard lore wise I can't stomach him.
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>necronfags cant deal with a fraction of the shitposts that tau and eldarfags have dealt with for years
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>>96814610
Haha no he isnt you fucking ape, you blew your chance with that last meltdown. Keep dreaming
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>>96814620
Because we don't have to? We mogg both of those weaklings.
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>>96814557
Both, but as CSM under Fabius Bile
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>>96814592
He's not wrong.
>Necrons get a big event
>Imperium powers on in immune to the super special Necron defense and wrecks house, only kept from winning outright since it's a Crusade zone
>Tyranids get a big event
>The only focus of it is how the Imperium halted the Tyranid advance and the Nids, at best, ate a few worthless no-name planets
>Eldar get a big event
>It's solely to help the Imperium get Guilliman back, afterwards the Eldar fade back into irrelevancy and are only remembered for porn of Yvraine getting fucked by Guilliman
>Farsight gets included in Arks of Omen
>It's solely for Chaos to kick his teeth in as a filler arc to build hype for Lion
>New Crusade Armageddon book comes out, focusing on the planet most recognized for Ork wars
>Orks are left out completely, the focus is on the Imperium fighting the World Eaters
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>>96813320
>pic
Remember when orks were an angry menacing horde, and not comedic relief Cockney bri'ish hooligans where every sculpt has them making some kind of goofy face?
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>>96814651
No. The Orks have never been menacing.
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>>96814628
Guess you forgot that he said if I condemn AI coomer slop that I would be forgiven...oops : )
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New Deathwatch datasheet is out. It’s actually fucking over
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>>96814646
>Tyranids get a big event
>The only focus of it is how the Imperium halted the Tyranid advance and the Nids, at best, ate a few worthless no-name planets
Not what happened, a non-trivial chunk of Pacificus is already lost, not to mention Octarius which was an overwhelming Imperium/Ork loss.
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>>96814684
>condemn AI coomer slop
How else will we get new Yvraine content?
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>>96814646
Even Imperial armies aren’t safe with these, Steel Legion nearly completely turned traitor in the Armageddon book
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>>96814691
SAUCE PLEASE. PLEASE GOD FUCK. Need to see how bad it is.
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>>96814698
I don't actually mind the coomer stuff to a degree I just want to get on the collage.
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Man the fish are eating good today
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>>96814711
On the webbed site?
Look at it
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>>96813373
Full version of the new Drukhari codex. Lots of fun details.
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>>96814696
>a non-trivial chunk of Pacificus is already lost
Wow, a bunch of worthless no-name planets with no real bearing.
>Octarius
Wow, a xenos vs xenos conflict got resolved off-screen with no actual consequences.
Nobody cares. People were more focused on Leontus and rhe Custodes fighting and killing a Norn Emissary, which was the final word on the whole debacle. The Imperium won.
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Honestly people really overestimate how rare Imperium stuff is. Titans, Space marines, Archaeotech, none of that shit is actually rare, it’s all quite common and considered disposable. You can tell because the Imperium deploys and uses them up fighting even extremely minor insignificant factions such as the Tau. The archaeotech bomb that sets alight entire nebulaes can’t be that uncommon if they’re using it on the Tau, nor can Titans and Space Marines when even minor border skirmishes with the Tau see them used.

Oh, and exterminatus? Not rare at all, in fact it’s frequently and commonly used haphazardly. If it wasn’t, they wouldn’t be using it against worlds the Tau were about to take. After all, why would you ever exterminatus a world that a tiny insignificant faction that could be exterminated at any time was about to conquer when you’ll inevitably take that world back later, unless exterminatus is actually a common thing that’s not a big deal?
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>>96814711
Gotchu homie
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>casually nerfs your movement
sausaga GW
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>>96814741
What happen?
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>>96814737
100pts per 5 models
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>>96814737
Those Datasheets are longer than entire armies, fucking hell.
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oh hey venoms actually work now
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>>96814743
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>>96814725
seems like some draft, front dude is so wide for some reason
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>>96814753
How many armies actually had multiple surge moves a turn?
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>>96814546
>They could give all of their Guardsmen plasma weapons
No, they couldn't, they couldn't even give all their marines plasma weapons, despite bolters having the same exact issues with ammos.
Don't kid yourself.
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>>96814737
Same points as the firstborn and just power creep on them. I mean, its a decent squad honestly, just sad that a Gravis marine carrying the same weapon as the veterans gains +1 AP, +1 Damage, +1 ballistic skill because PRIMARIS ARE KING rules from GW :(
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>>96814727
>Wow, a xenos vs xenos conflict got resolved off-screen with no actual consequences.
Wrong anon-kun, Helbrecht was there as well as a bunch of Black Templars & Krieg (as well as Dark Krakens, Scions, bunch of other Primaris Chapters as well as Inquisition) and basically all he could achieve is save a single planet (and he nearly jobbed to a no-name warboss while doing so).
Its cute that you're trying to memoryhole weeks of people complaining about "Imperium being shoved into Octarius" though.
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>>96814772
The bolter is a perfect weapon. Rapid fire, can change ammo to fit the situation as needed, explodes on contact with the enemy
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>>96814762
I'd have to go through it but BT are one of the bigger offenders with sword brethren.
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>>96814748
what changed with venoms?
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>>96814774
They’re a lot worse than the FB Squad because they can’t focus on a role
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>>96814753
Looks like a nothingburger I've literally never seen this happen anyway
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>>96814636
CSM are pretty ass to play and that's consistent through editions. Who wants to play 50 Cultists or Accursed Cultists.
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>>96814788
The jump back in ability got clarified so it works as by RAW the phrasing in the codex makes it impossible to use.
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>>96814783
plasma does all of that and better
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>>96814800
Me?
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>>96814807
Might as well be an Ork
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>>96814781
DELETE THIS
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>>96814781
>B-buh muh xenos ALMOST beat a named character!
>B-buh all these random worthless no-name planets!
Nobody cared about Octarius until the Imperium became involved.
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new plastic regiment just dropped!
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>>96814790
Yea I'm realizing that now. You can't take 2 Thunder Hammers and 2 shields in a 5 man. They have better stats generally but overall suck ass because they can't specialize. You would never charge a unit that has heavy special weapons just to get 1 thunder hammer into a target.

Meaning you should swap the thunder hammer for a shield every time.

ALSO LMAO they didnt provide a profile for Xenophase blade because they ran out of space ahahaha
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Thousand Sons are getting a Tzaangor Hero on foot next edition as their update. Thanks to the popularity of Space Marine 2. You heard it here first.
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>>96814825
Other way around, octarius endured years and years of fun and popularity until gw decided to make it about marines.
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>>96814801
ok on reread i see where the issue is
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>>96814825
>until the Imperium became involved
Yah lmao, it became involved and it thoroughly lost in spite of Chapter Master of the most popular Successor Chapter showing up and still ultimately not bringing victory to the Imperium.
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>>96814851
imperium always wins anyway
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I like how it’s basically impossible to actually insult the Imperium because they just don’t give a shit whether they win or lose so long as they get to kill you
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>another killteam puzzlebox added
>meanwhile geomancer is still missing
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>>96814836
GW plans of making the 40k tzeentch range completely separate from the aos tzeentch range, so you should definitely expect a removal of all the fantasy kits and at least one new tzaangor kit that's exclusively 40k

space marine 2 is irrelevant for future releases
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>>96814815
It's more like playing Astra Militarum and Space Marines together. And there is even the option for Daemons too.

For people like me, that likes to change list and style every game, I couldn't think of a better faction.

You are right that CSM were terrible in past edition, but now it's paying off.
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>>96814857
Sure, if you ignore all the times the imperium turns on itself over trivial accusations and managements.
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>>96814856
>loses Cadia
>loses Octarius
>loses Arks of Omen
>likely gonna lose Nachmund/Pariah Nexus when we get back to those
sweet cope
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>>96814862
ok nvm apparently it's my cache and geo is in too
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>>96814857
Many xenofags don't seems to realize that nobody cares what they say, at best they're willing NPCs and at worst they're race traitors. Xenos exist to say dumb things before being gunned down or chopped up. Why SHOULD people care wbat xenos say?
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Men of Gold were Earth's "Heroes" (maybe something like Capeshit Superheroes), probably Psykers or other talented, genius Great Men of History, who the Emperor gathered around to not just unleash their full potential, but also to use their talents of the betterment of Humanity.

Men of Stone were something like the Androids from the Alien universe, but enhanced with the teachings of the Men of Gold. Basically all-purpose units, which could travel the warp without being corrupted, spit out instructions to create an advanced weapons industry or a just constitution for a newly found planet. They are bio-mechanical Cyborgs, who don't have a soul.

Men of Stone eventually created the Men of Iron to help Humanity in their wars and better protect them. But the Men of Iron were fully artificial and mechanical, instead of bio-cyborgs like the Men of Stone and eventually realized they and the "smart devices" Humanity used, were doing basically everything for Humanity and so might as well replace them.

Thoughts on this theory?
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>>96814856
lol?
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>>96814863
But tzaangors are a double box that has both 40k and Fantasy bits?
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>>96814737
This is a lot of shooting for 200 points. 2D3 S7 Frag Canons, 4 S8 Plasma shots, 1 S8 Plasma Pistol, 2 S5 Precision Marksman Bolt Carbines, and then you have the 2 guys with shields to take shots for the whole squad on their invuln save and a xenophase blade for when the squad is thinned out in melee. These guys are great at killing Tyranids and Votann. Melee loadout is dead completely though.

Guess you would still take the vets for that with the Watch Master, and you can kitbash them to be in primaris scale very easily.
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>>96814883
>Cadia still exists
>Orks lost Octarius
>Got a Primarch back in Arks so a win
>Discovered the Sisters are immune to Warp Nullification and are a perfect counter to Crons in the Nexus
All wins
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>>96814701
checkmate guardfag, now we don't have to make plastic minis for them
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>rides jetbike
>but doesn't fly
lmao
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>>96814893
>at worst they're race traitors
>"you should associate yourself with your tribe... because you have to, okay?!"
I'd in a heartbeat sell away most of humanity if actual real life aliens promised me, my friends and relatives genetic immortality and Eden on Earth lmaooo
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>>96814535
>It's not a kitbash
>I just bashed two kits
>actually three kits
You little
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>>96814912
The biggest issue is you get better shooting punch with a Fortis kill team which is 20 points cheaper and you don’t have to put any melee in
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>>96814931
I'm sorry...
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>>96814830
Looks pretty cool
I remember the artwork
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>>96814915
>Orks lost Octarius
Lmao Imperium threw all they could and still couldn't stop it and failed at their actual objective: containing both parties in a system.
>Discovered the Sisters are immune to Warp Nullification and are a perfect counter to Crons in the Nexus
Faith powers are not exclusive to Sisters lol, Pylons also did jack shit to GSC lol
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>>96814903
It's wrong

men of gold were genetically superior elites, either natural like perpetuals or genetically augmented one way or another, psykers didn't manifest yet in numbers at the time, and no capes

men of stone were literally the leagues of votann and other abhumans created to colonise the stars
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>>96814746
That's always been the appeal of Deathwatch. The Firstborn still mog the primaris in melee though, they have the best Thunder Hammers on any marines in the game.
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>>96814929
Congratulation, the aliens are going to slit your throat and those of the people closest to you as soon as you no longer have worth to them. You have betrayed your race for nothing, and will suffer for it in whatever comes after death.
You're the same sort of retard who would join the Tau and then be surprised when they castrate you and send you to a labor camp.
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>>96814910
the aos box doesn't have the upgrade sprue of 40k bits
it's not a dual 40k/aos kit, it's an aos kit with some shit thrown in to give rubrics something to play with

it's a kit that has no future in 40k, better get ready for its eventual removal
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>>96814940
>Orks jobbed so hard not even the Imperium could help them
Sad!!!
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>>96814830
>Tactical rocks
>Even troops have tactical shit to step on
Actually nevermind these are ass
The musician's instrument is okay, I'll save that
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>>96814921
He's just afraid of heights
Be nice
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>>96814939
It blows my mind how amateurish all the trench crusade concept art is. I get that they're going for a vibe more than really high quality art, but jeez.
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>>96814950
Thousand sons have no future, the Rubric lore means you can’t do anything interesting with their marines
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its telling when people are so bored that they entertain the imperiumautist or maybe there was some weird influx of people who try to argue in good faith lmao
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>>96814954
Look at that Deathwatch datasheet and their new models and ask yourself “Do I really want this?”
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>>96814954
Here comes the samefag coom post about this silver haired twat being raped by bison men or something.
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>>96814948
>Congratulation, the aliens are going to slit your throat and those of the people closest to you as soon as you no longer have worth to them.
Nice boogieman
>You have betrayed your race for nothing
No I "betrayed" (I was in no social contract) "my" (I never claimed it as such) "race" (Notion of species in of itself is a delusion) for a sicknasty centipede-taur body, hot alien babes/boys and biological immortality ty v much
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>>96814610
No I never said that. When I say lifetime ban I mean it.
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>>96814967
DW vet datasheet and models mog the new kit so hard its insanity.

>old kit lets you build tons of combination and loadouts for any situation / new kit has an almost fixed load out that cant bring enough melee marines to every want to charge
>old kit has tons of extra bits on the sprue
>new kit is box locked to wierd as shit
>new kit has weird as fuck heads
>stuck in schizo loadout land
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>>96814941
So Abhumans don't have souls? Squats are Men of Stone? What?
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>>96814962
Yes, they can, gw is just lazy
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>>96814982
Based
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>>96814989
>So Abhumans don't have souls
Correct.
Normal Humans are the only race that has actual souls as of modern 40k.
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>>96814982
You said it just yesterday, was that really not you or is this not you?
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>>96814989
squats are cloned with half souls shielded souls
they are the colonists sent by mankind in that early age
and they made the men of iron that are still alongside them

they're the men of rock and stone
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>>96814984
People are already saying it’s ok the models are weird looking and stuck in schitzo loadout land because “they’re trulescale now”
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>>96814893
Eh, I wouldn’t even say they’re race, cause the thing is, the Imperium doesn’t give a shit if humanity survives. If the Imperium could press a button that would exterminate all life in the galaxy, but that included humanity, they absolutely would press it just to spite Xenos.
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>>96815007
At least you have a way to bring primaris allies now in any imperial army. You can just model any primaris marines and use this datasheet. So now in your guard army you can have your Minotaur or Ultramarine or whatever kind of like how marines actually deploy in the fluff.
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>>96815009
>they absolutely would press it just to spite Xenos.
no, they wouldn't, that's some flanderised bullshit.

stop getting your characterisation from cringe worthy memes.
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>>96815036
They absolutely would. The Eldar were going to kill Slaanesh, and the Imperium killed them before they could just to spite them. Then, after the Eldar woke up Guilliman, the Imperium invaded their craft world and slaughtered them, just to show that they weren’t allies
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>>96814999
I'm not here enough to keep track of everything that goes on. If it's not my anchor posts then it's most likely not me.
I want nothing to do with him.
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>>96815036
most flanderizations of factions is better than GWs take. Alpha Legion, for example.
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>>96814087
You can always cut the barrels shorter to make them look like bolters.
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>>96815045
>The Eldar were going to kill Slaanesh, and the Imperium killed them
because it wasn't about the fate of mankind
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>>96815045
>The Eldar were going to kill Slaanesh, and the Imperium killed them before they could just to spite them.
No, the Imperium stopped them because spawning a new God would fuck the Warp to the point of damaging the Imperium, and there's zero guarantee that a new Eldar god would be any better for the Imperium than Slaanesh. At best one of the Imperium's enemies gets a huge ally, at worst the Imperium is damaged and is left at a disadvantage against one of their longest enemies.
Only a fucking idiot thinks Artemis was in the wrong.
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>>96815054
Modeling for advantage
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>>96815070
>because spawning a new God would fuck the Warp to the point of damaging the Imperium
got a citation for that part from this specific instance? or even just a character making said speculation?
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>>96815048
You are so spiteful and hold grudges.
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>>96815083
Anon, mind telling me what happened to the Warp the last time the Eldar spawned a god?
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>>96815100
Probably the same thing that happen when humanity spawned the other three
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>>96815100
The warp calmed down and allowed the emperor to launch the great crusade?
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The Eldar abused humans during the Age of Strife and have doomed countless human planets to save themselves since the Fall. The Dark Eldar are also raiding imperial worlds all the time, and to the average Imperial they are the same race of Xenos and cooperate with each other. And that's on top of them creating the Eye of Terror that is currently empowering chaos, fucked up FTL prior to the creation of the imperium, and MANY other problems. Despite this they are still extremely arrogant

The Eldar are not allies, the emperor was right about that. They are a fey race that can't control its extreme emotions, biowepons that were meant to fight against the c'tan and necrons.
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>>96815070
>because spawning a new God would fuck the Warp to the point of damaging the Imperium

What about that guy on that golden chair?
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>>96815109
Craftworld Eldar also protected humans and then the Imperium came in during the Great Crusade, saw humans who didn’t hate the Eldar, and put all those humans in concentration camps or Exterminatused their worlds.
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>>96815117
Unlike the Eldar, the Emperor knows what he's doing.
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>>96815100
>the last time
the last time was a very different instance, a whole eldar empire was building up to that summoning

again, do you have anything FROM THIS INSTANCE that points out that was expected by anyone of the involved parties?
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>>96815105
>humanity spawned the other three
Poor bait, disregarded
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>>96815123
when did he ever show that?
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The Decimus Kill Team does actually have a use. It can be a 5 man squad, so its better shooting at 5 models than the DWvets at 5 and Fortis can't be taken at 5.
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>>96815127
The Emperors existence caused them to wake up.
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>>96815120
Some craftworlders did that, others have always wanted to exterminate humans. The Eldar are not friendly elves that want to bring about the balance of nature, they have *never* been that

>>96815117
He's a god but is still tethered to the materium via his body. If his body died then his psychic presence would remain (it could already do that before he was a god) but no one knows what would happen. Perhaps he would become a true warp god being instead of a hybrid and the birth scream of the ascendant emperor would rip open a tear in material reality similar to the eye of terror but instead of chaos daemons imperial saints and agents of his Order would come out (not necessarily a "nice" prospect)
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>>96815139
When be resurrected Guilliman, told Mortarion to go sit down and wait to be redeemed, then burnt a huge swathe of Nurgle's garden to ash.
The Emperor did more to fight Chaos in the span of a minute than the entire Eldar race has since their miserable creation.
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>>96815145
That was retconed because it didn't make sense. Then it was retconed again so that chaos even existed during the War in Heaven (I hate that change desu, I always liked the concept of it being born from the flaws of mortal races)
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>>96815145
It says they recognise the emperor as their threat, not that they awakened because or in response to it.

They would have awakened anyway.
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>Iron Hands detachment focuses on termies
Well that's just plain not a fluffy way to play them. They field relatively few terminator suits and reserve the few they have for their veteran sergeants and other chapter command.
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>>96815157
It makes perfect sense, Chaos was just a background roiling mass that created thinking individuals to fight the Emperor. Since Chaos is a reflection of the material world them making thinking people also matches all the sentient species popping up.
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>>96815177
It’s the Chapter Command Detachment
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>the one being chaos has ever truly feared, their greatest enemy, the "anathema"
>defeated a c'tan shard with a spear in the middle ages
>sees the future better than any Eldar farseer

Why is he such a Mary Sue though? Where did he come from? A c'tan shard referred to him as a "weapon" so maybe he was created at the ultimate psychic warrior by the Old Ones
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>>96815172
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>>96815145
>humanity caused the chaos gods in the fucking medieval ages

Not the War in Heaven?
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>>96815197
It was retconned to be caused by the War in Heaven, then retconned so that Chaos always existed and the Old Ones fought it with the Aeldari. Personally I'd like them to drop the latter and pretend it never happened
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>>96815180
It doesn't make sense at all, you're saying the emperor was a threat to the peaceful pre-intelligence warp and thus created intelligences to fight it.

It's the other way around, the chaos intelligences would have been a problem for everyone regardless of whether the emperor was around or not, he wasn't what caused their formation at all.
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>>96815214
If I were trying to justify it (it's not a good idea for the lore) I would say that it was Chaos recognizing him since the warp is timeless. The emperor has always been their greatest enemy in the warp, even before he was born as a human man.
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>>96815195
that's talking about the current state of the galaxy in the 41st millennium you goddamn retard, of course they're their main meal if they're the main empire of the galaxy.


stop reading random phrases in a vacuum and start understanding where what you're reading actually fits.
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Chais has existed since the dawn of creation by way of Time Paradox-ing their own creation during the Horus Heresy, specifically when the Emperor's duel with Horus broke reality and allowed all of the combined suffering from the Siege of Terra to be poured into the first moment of time thereby creating the Chaos Gods there.
Chaos, and all four Chaos Gods, have existed forever within 40k. This is a quality unique to them due to the nature of their paradoxical creation. Everything that had transpired in 40k's history, including the War In Heaven, was according to the Chaos Gods' design to eventually cause the Horus Heresy and thus fulfill the time loop, ensuring that their greatest rival (the Emperor) alsi ended up crippled so that their dominance can last until the end of time. Biotransference, the War In Heaven, and the Fall of the Eldar were all deliberate acts of Chaos to remove the obstacles from the Imperium's rise.
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Humanities’ first ever murder created a Daemon so powerful that the Emperor shat himself in fear. Humans effect the warp more than any other species.
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>>96815239
This is pure fanfiction
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>>96815225
>If I were trying to justify it
why would you? it's not some kind of shit that's actually canon that needs to be justified, it's literally just anon's retarded ignorant take of what he thinks some sloptuber told him is the canon.
it's simply wrong.
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>>96815239
>by way of Time Paradox-ing their own creation during the Horus Heresy, specifically when the Emperor's duel with Horus
wrong
go back to the book
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>>96815145
That's not what it says. And it was the birth of Khorne that caused wars, not the other way around. Same with the birth of Nurgle causing plagues.
>>96815195
>random snippet of text with no sauce
Nothing about the Emperor causing it and humanity is to blame for the current state of affairs with traitor legions and splitting of the galaxy, not that they're responsible for Chaos existing in the first place.
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>>96815255
a demon so powerful it's irrelevant to any race other than man
almost as if chaos is a relative and personalised enemy

except slaanesh, that one is that strong
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>>96815273
It says Chaos as an essence recognized the Emperor as a threat and started spawning entities to fight him.
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>>96815256
Face it. The only reason the Eldar were able to rule the galaxy for so long was because the Chaos Gods allowed it, knowing it would be extremely easy to manipulate and destroy them when it came time for the Emperor's rise to power.
>>96815271
Go on then, post an excerpt to prove me wrong. You can't.
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>>96814610
>>96814999
>>96815089
Kill yourself.
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>>96815288
>Chaos as an essence recognized the Emperor as a threat
Which is very different from the Emperor causing them to exist, considering the Emperor was a response to the rise of Chaos in the first plate.
>and started spawning entities to fight him.
Do quote the line that says this.
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>>96815290
They ruled because they were handed the keys to the galaxy from their parents
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>>96815311
>their parents
The ones who were killed in the war orchestrated by Chaos?
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>>96815239
>Chais has existed since the dawn of creation by way of Time Paradox-ing their own creation during the Horus Heresy
And it sucks because of it.
It is marvel tier cringe.
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>>96815294
You first bitch
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Chaosfags have always been the most delusional and annoying, which is why I said I hate them even more than Taufags
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>>96815290
Current lore is that Chaos was basically imprisoned because the Old Ones and the Eldar trapped daemons on worlds in the materium, effectively trying up parts of the Chaos gods. The Chaos gods don't make those sorts of plans together anyway ,nor will the emperor remain in his current state forever. One way or another it will end
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>>96815319
Yes?
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>>96815343
>Chaosfags have always been the most delusional
What can I say?
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>>96815356
Therefore, Chaos arranged for the Old Ones to be killed thus leaving the galaxy in the incompetent hands of the Eldar until Mankind was ready to become the Imperium.
What are you missing here?
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>>96815239
>chaos always existed and is all powerful and can't be destroyed
I don't like this, it makes 40k boring.
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>>96815290
>Go on then, post an excerpt to prove me wrong.
Here, I cropped all the parts where that happens.
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>>96815290
>The only reason the Eldar were able to rule the galaxy for so long was because the Chaos Gods allowed it
That's more retarded fanfiction.
The other chaos gods simply had no sway on the eldar.
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>>96815382
Human setting, Chaos fixed the Heresy as an inevitable moment in time because it recorded humans are the only species that matters, and guided humans from the moment they woke up.
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>>96815369
Where you are pulling this from other than your ass?
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>>96815409
That still doesn't say what you think it says.
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>>96815255
other than that time the knife ears made a chaos god?
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>>96815409
>Human setting
*Frog setting
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The true path to Salvation lies in the acceptance and celebration of Chaos as the singular Truth. In death, all go to Chaos, whether they be Human, Eldar, Tau, Ork, or otherwise, for the Warp is the realm of souls and Chaos is nature of the Warp.
Furthermore, Chaos is universal. It is worshipped not only by mankind, who give Chaos the most direct worship, but also by xenos of all sorts as well, be it directly or indirectly.
Knowing that your soul goes to Chaos after death is not a fact to be dreaded or feared, but instead celebrated and embraced, for it provides Assurance to both life and death. In knowing the Truth, all of the galaxy may finally become Happy, for in Assurance there is Happiness.
The path to Salvation lies in the recognition of this Truth, as it is what brings comfort and Happiness to what would otherwise be a squallid and pained existence. It does not matter that you die, for your death will bring you to Chaos. It does not matter that you fight against Chaos, for in death you will be one with it nonetheless.
This Truth is the First and Final Truth.
Praise Chaos and the prophet Lorgar, for his teachings shall bring Assurance, Happiness, and Peace.
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Loyalist: bitchless
Heretics: bitchful
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>>96815465
Mucho texto

>>96815468
Sold. Death to the Corpse Emperor.
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>>96813805
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>>96815465
So you're basically a Liberal, got it.
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>>96815489
Actually it's a Jojo reference
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>>96815451
It took the psychic will of billions of Eldar millennia to do that. The first human to bash another over the head with a rock made something insanely powerful.
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>>96814921
>Moves through terrain
>Not vulnerable to all the random anti-fly 2+ weapons
This is objectively better than fly
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>>96814921
No Feel no pain? What a total loser.
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What's more fun to play? Grey Knights or Black Templars?
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What does /40kg/ think about Dark Angels?
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What's with the lorefaggotry and bait recently?
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>>96815603
Gay
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>>96815465
Nuhuh, Chaos metaphysics suck and are a mess and so are Daemons sadly, but I concur that at least WBs do stuff in style.
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>>96815603
Gay
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>>96815603
That pic makes me think. Do loyalists salvage armor and weapons from dead traitors? Wouldn't that be dangerous.
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>>96815191
>>the one being chaos has ever truly feared, their greatest enemy, the "anathema"
>>defeated a c'tan shard with a spear in the middle ages
>>sees the future better than any Eldar farseer
proofs?
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>>96815625
yes, see the gauntlets of ultramar
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>>96815603
Homosexuals
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>>96815609
Who would win an all out war between the full Might of the Imperium and the Greater good Tau? Your answer will tell us a whole lot about you anon.
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>>96815625
Yes, see the Axe of Morkai.
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>>96815615
>>96815620
>>96815653
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>>96815632
It was stated that they view him as their greatest enemy explicitly in older lore. An excerpt was posted in this thread, although the stuff about the chaos gods awakening because of him was retconned. That's part of why they call him "anthema." His psychic presence, whatever it is, burns chaos out of existence.

The Void Dragon is the dragon of Mars. The emperor imprisoned it on Mars in the Middle Ages, but details are ambiguous.

His ability to perceive the future is depicted everywhere and is well known to figures like Eldrad
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>>96813924
>crying about tribalism
>while throwing a fit over people wanking the factions you dont like
lol
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>>96815665
Khorne
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>>96815739
>His psychic presence, whatever it is, burns chaos out of existence.
He's not the only one to do that though
>The Void Dragon is the dragon of Mars. The emperor imprisoned it on Mars in the Middle Ages, but details are ambiguous.
So not with a spear, got it
>His ability to perceive the future is depicted everywhere and is well known to figures like Eldrad
yeah, and he perceived it so well he's stuck on eternal hemorrhoid hell while Eldrad yet lives
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>>96815758
>He's not the only one to do that though

No one ever said he is, but he is pretty clearly viewed as the main enemy of chaos. This has always been the case in the lore, I'm not sure why it is even controversial.
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>>96814956
>amateurish
>mike franchina
(you)
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>>96815773
>No one ever said he is, but he is pretty clearly viewed as the main enemy of chaos. This has always been the case in the lore, I'm not sure why it is even controversial.
Should be easy to find proofs then
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Incoming early thread with no community links
Remember to report it for spamming
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>>96815747
Where you inferred that from?
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>>96815755
The answer was the Tau...jesus man...
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>>96815801
wtf is up with this thread. literally two baitfags each "pretending to be retarded" at each other.
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>>96815801
I really don't care. I'll post in the first thread available.
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>>96814737
did they miss the rules for the xenophase blade?
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>>96815846
Yup, you have to look them up in the app
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>>96815852
gay
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>>96815852
>>96815846
Can you post it please? I didnt realize they were in the app. I don't have it.
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>>96815861
I gotchu
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>>96815779
There is literally an excerpt in this thread that says explicitly that he is their greatest enemy and there are countless other more subtle statements to the same effect. Please kill yourself. Blow your brains out or jump off a bridge
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>>96815824
A lot of threads are being shit up today, I think it's just one dedicated autist with nothing better to do. It's more sad than anything at this point desu.
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>want to paint /myguys/
>have to wagecuck 12 hrs daily
>get hyped thinking about painting while at work
>get home too exhausted to even think about painting
>repeat next day

anybody else know this feel ?
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>>96815465
Alright fucker, I’ve been meaning to do some theological arguments for mydudes. Gimme a minute to offer a rebuttal.
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>>96816001
Exactly me, except 10 hours.
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>>96816001
Sounds like me last year. I started eating better (balanced meals with veggies and fruits, not just pasta and burgers) and started exercising more. I find that I have a lot more energy to pursue my hobbies as I get older by treating my body as its actual age than if I was still 20.
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>>96816001
nah, I'm not living in the corporate dystopia you people call USA so I work 8 hours a day and not a minute more. It's still too much. I've actually been home this past week on paid leave because I felt like taking a break from work. Sucks to be you lmao
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>>96816025
Lmao that's hilarious
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>>96816010
come over here and feel with me brother. existence is suffering
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>>96816001
nah, we're basically on maintenance mode at work until we sign up with another oil company, so I'm basically doing nothing thursdays to sundays
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>>96816025
We're going to let Russia rape you for this
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>>96816054
Fucking noiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
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>>96816057
Russia can't even rape the poorest country in Europe after, what, 4 years? We're good, don't you worry.
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>>96816025
>>96816054
>>96816064
Soft white hands typed these posts.
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>>96816094
Every hand should be soft, in an ideal world.
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>>96815465
>>96816004
Chaos cannot be the Truth, for Chaos is incoherent. Truth implies form, law, and repeatability, all things antithetical to Chaos. Lies are ever changing, constantly trying to catch up to the real truth that it can never be. The Emperor, the Starbinder, embodies Truth as He gives shape to the formless. To “celebrate” Chaos is to celebrate the failure of all form and meaning. One may as well praise rust for the strength of steel it devours.

> In death, all go to Chaos, for the Warp is the realm of souls and Chaos is the nature of the Warp.

This is the lie of despair. The Warp is a medium, not an end. It is potential energy, not purpose. To say that all souls dissolve into Chaos is to deny the Emperor’s power and endless labours. His work to draw the righteous from the storm, to bind the worthy into the Great Pattern. The unfaithful fall to Chaos because they are unrefined, not because it is inevitable. It is failure, not destiny that draws the supplicants of the fourfold lie.

>Chaos is universal. It is worshipped by all races, directly or indirectly.

Entropy is universal. Chaos is not. Decay touches all things, but it is not worshiped by them. Life, order, and structure persist only through resistance of that entropy. The Lucis Technica teaches that existence itself is proof of the Emperor’s Law. The physical universe would not hold together at all if Chaos were supreme. The heretic confuses infection and permeation for essence and structure.

>1/2
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>>96816111
>Knowing your soul goes to Chaos brings Assurance and Happiness.
There is no assurance in annihilation. What the heretic calls “happiness” is the numbness of surrender, a coward’s peace. True joy is found in continuation, in the endurance of form, in the labor that sustains the soul’s coherence. The forge burns hot, and in its heat the faithful are strengthened, not dissolved. The many become one, a stronger alloy. Salvation lies in the struggle to remain whole and find purpose in reality, not the acceptance of disintegration and annihilation.
>It does not matter that you fight Chaos, for in death you will be one with it nonetheless.
To fight Chaos is to resist dissolution and falsehood. Each act of defiance is a stroke upon the anvil of eternity. The soul that dies in faith and labor does not melt into the storm, it is drawn into the Starbinder’s design, reforged into the light of His Dominion. The heretic’s argument is a rationalization for decay, an excuse for inaction or self delusion.

>This Truth is the First and Final Truth. Praise Chaos and the prophet Lorgar.
A “final truth” that ends in madness is not truth but a lie. Lorgar sought meaning and, failing to forge it, mistaking the noise of his failure for revelation. The Emperor’s truth is not final but enduring, a work never finished, always refined. The forge does not end when the metal glows; it ends when the craftsman lays down his hammer. The Starbinder never will. Even in death he struggles on. Chaos is not a path to salvation but the absence of it, a formless abyss where will, form, and meaning collapse. The strong mind rejects this heresy utterly.
The Emperor does not dissolve the soul. He tempers it and binds it to himself for a greater purpose.

Horologium Lux, Sealed Book 2: On the nature and refutation of the Fourfold Lie. Saint Alvarehs’ commentaries.
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>>96816094
>thinking it's some kind of privilege to work for a corporation that will fire you the second they can find someone cheaper
You people have been so conditioned into being wageslaves you actually take pride in it, that's pretty funny
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>>96816001
>12 hours
I feel sorry for you americans, I really do.
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Someone make a new thread. Im not posting my shit on page 7 where it won't get any (You)s.
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>>96816170
Thanks buddy that means a lot.
I get overtime pay so it's not so had.
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>>96816170
You don't have to lie, anon
You can laugh at us, I laugh at us
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>>96816170
If you don’t lavishly serve the company that keeps your nowhere town afloat and give them insane tax breaks they’ll move away to somewhere that will and fuck you over.
A company where I lived drained a lake illegally for years before being caught, and their only punishment was to stop because they threatened to move their factory.
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Look at this space dwarf guy. Hes pretty cool, huh?
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Anybody else like dunecrawlers?
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>>96816195
yea, I have a friend whos entire town works at a leather shoe company. It employs 90% of the town. They basically have no checks and only barely follow laws.
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Do you guys like the old inquisitor models?
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>>96816235
I love em, really cool model. Was super fun to build and paint, too.
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This is a pretty cool colorscheme. Reminds me of sea gulls
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>>96816243
MODS
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>>96816251
>>96816235
I do. But what I really want to do is put a saturnine dread on the legs of one and go full crabnaught.
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Thoughts on this model?
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>>96816243
Mother of god....MODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>96816259
Ayyy that’s what I play
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Where can I get the best official GW commissar sculpt?
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>>96816275
shit like the rest of the eldar range
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What went so right?
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>>96816275
It's very cool
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>>96816299
It added the sexual overtones of oldhammer into new hammer. So it actually has soul
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>>96816298
>t.salty bangels player
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Whats his problem?
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>>96816314
He got top surgery and is regretting it
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Why dont they have their own subfaction?
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>>96816327
Because little Timmy won't buy them.
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>>96816323
Stop looking
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>>96816327
Subfactions are for Marines only
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>>96816275
One of the better ones from the collector series.
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This guy lol
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>>96816308
>>t.salty bangels player
How did you come to this conclusion?
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>>96816299
Good visuals and he isn't comically thin anymore
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Why is he the only generic hero on bike?
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>>96816295
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>>96816316
STOP
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>>96816346
you're asspained that eldar got a much better refresh than your shitty vampire marines
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>>96816346
All saltfags are BA fags since their model range got castrated
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>>96816350
Kitbash no allowed anymore, and GW no care about Marine bikes.
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>>96816350
Because James is lazy. I've started making my own since he won't do it.
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Why don't they have the gravis key word?
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>>96816339
he's pretty cool, what about him
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Here's your dark mechanicus, bro
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>>96816355
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>>96816350
Check legends
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>>96816356
>>96816367
So not only you're samefagging you are also projecting? Noted.
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>>96816382
Thanks
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Newfags don't know what kit this is from
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>>96816402
We're at image limit, retard
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>>96816420
Then how did you post an image
It's missing the community link
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>>96816394
uhhh blood angel tactical squad?
i think
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>>96816295
Recasters, of course.
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>>96816425
no, it isn't, read the thread
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>>96815827
Can the art of war make me a better 40k player?
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>>96816449
I love this video so much
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>>96816449
it's missing the rentry you silly billy
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>>96816459
it's in the third post of the thread, stop being obnoxious
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>>96816466
Yes because I posted it, it's meant to be in the OP.
Why are you being obtuse?
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>>96816459
No, it isn't, it's right there added in a later post
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>>96816485
How is that in the op you double retard
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>>96814064
Not only are Space Marines one army, but Chaos Space Marines and Custodes are a part of it.
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>>96816488
>How is that in the op
Quote me where I said that
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>>96816513
Triple retard
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>>96816332
this shit is so cringe, dawg
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>>96816542
kill yourself decalmutant
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>>96816542
>I get mad when someone makes over the top satire of my over the top satire
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>>96815926
I accept your concession
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>>96815070
The Imperium doesn't make those kinds of considerations when it takes actions. They kill the Eldar because they like killing the Eldar, not because it's pragmatic. It's the reason behind why Guilliman declared war on the Eldar and invaded one of their craftworlds after they revived him. Guilliman isn't trying to save the Imperium, he doesn't care about having allies or being logical. To Guilliman, all he wants more than anything is to see every other species dead. If killing a billion humans would kill one Eldar, he would do it.
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>>96817058
Retard.
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>>96813659
Yeah it's not slippery slope at all! Let's wait for the proud black trans women space marines.
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>>96813935
YWNBAW
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>>96814800
I love mixing in cultists with my chaos marines
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>>96814131
Kys



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