Previous: >>96810118Reanimator Edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Do you have a graveyard deck?
>>96815128>Do you have a graveyard deck?Sort of. My Teneb deck uses the graveyard more than any other one I have, but I don't use any spells to fill it up. I just let shit die first thanks to a plethora of board wipes.https://archidekt.com/decks/14378432/teneb_war_of_attrition
It's time to ban it
>tqyes, with this mf as the cmm
>>96815168Fuck that I love gambling. Stuff like Etali, Zhulodok, and First Sliver sre some of my favorite cpmmanders.
>>96815168...why?
>>96815168unironically trash card
>TQYeah, my waifu deck, toohttps://moxfield.com/decks/s5yEyJUo6kGOuG_yl43nYA
>>96815128>TQI have a few decks with some recursion, but nothing that really leans hard into it. I just considered building something in Golgari though. Amzu looks interesting.
"Post your decks.I quit playing since MH3, but I’ll probably never dismantle my babies.Since this game is so nihilistic toward itself right now, I might as well be the creator of its own narrative
>>96815296
I hecking love edh
Coalition Victory staying on the GC list is honestly fucking hilarious, especially when given the context of the cards they removed
>>96815320loved the trashed islandI play with some fucked old foils too, they rot the coolest
>Bolas froze up, staring at Narset like a deer in headlights. The expression of shock looked completely unnatural on a dragon that so often bore an expression of arrogant confidence.>Ugin soon followed, his eyes widening as he turned his head, noticing that their union now had a spectator.>Ugin tried to pull himself free, only for the two of them to wince as Ugin's knot kept them stuck together, quite literally joined at the hip.>Bolas turned his head away, trying to imagine himself anywhere else.>Ugin's mouth opened to speak, only for no words to come. For once, the wise spirit dragon was a complete loss for words, having been caught in a raw moment of intimacy.>Narset's gaze narrowed as she turned to Ugin, her expression unreadable.>The two dragons found themselves dreading the words that would next come out of her mouth.>"Master Ugin," breathed Narset, overwhelmed by the urge to sink to her knees, to prostrate herself before him. "Please. The Multiverse needs your assistance. The dragonstorms have grown in intensity. They've spread from Tarkir to the other planes. Soon, all will be devoured if nothing is done. We've come to you seeking assistance, so, please, help us."
I'm making an orzhov deck. I want each basic land to be different but there's only 8 good plains.Do I just succumb to the autism and fill the rest with off-color fetches? At least I can make them old bordered too.
>>96815386>Narset literally so autistic she doesn't acknowledge walking in on Ugin and Bolas having sexKINO
>>96815391>I want each basic land to be different Sociopath shit
>>96815391>off-color fetchesYou and your ilk will be hanged by your entrails and paraded throughout downtown Renton, WA alongside the hybridfags
>>96815378Main point is, bracket 2 games are better because everyone is just having a good time instead of tryharding
>>96815416>having duplicate cards in a singleton format
>>96815429>that applies to card names, not arts you idiot, this isn't even a good joke
>>96815422>playing mtg>having a good timeOh anon, if you only knew...
>>96815391What's the issue here? You can play tons of nonbasics these days. My Orzhov deck has 3 plains in it.
>>96815386>Look at the subtle nod to Ugin's supremacy>The tasteful deknotting>Oh my God, it's even got Bolas bottomingkino
>>96815391my autistic fren, do you have a moment to check MIRAGE plains?
>>96815463They are nice but the issue is that this is phyrexian tribal so they don't fit thematically.>>96815446Give me some ideas. Putting all the pay life lands into a two color deck seems silly and I already added all the tribe lands.
>>96815391>he doesn't use the best basics by farThese and the Ixalan ones are unbeatable.
>>96815481>this is phyrexian tribal>not using the literal phyrexian sticky lands
>>96815496>>96815508You don't understand the extent of my autism. I need lands to say "{T}: Add X to your mana pool".
>>96815391Those are nice, but this one also fits.
>>96815514you better get other ones, so. because those you showed say: {T}: Add {W} to your mana pool
>>96815496my tiny bones deck exclusively uses the purple swamp from NEO. it felt bad buying 40 dollars worth of basic swamps, but i'm happy with it.
>>96815514Litmus test: What is your view on hybrid mana?
>>96815481For that you need to tell which Orzhov deck it is. I play 9 dual lands, 6 MDFCs, Midgar, Nykthos, both Eiganjos, Minas Tirith, Susur Secundi, Castle Locthwain, Takenuma and a bit more. But it's Ratadrabik, so I dunno if your deck can play the same kind of lands.
>Turn 1 Exploration>Turn 2 Stony Silence and Confounding ConundrumYep, it's Gavin's vision for b1.
>>96815551Brimaz
>>96815535If a card has multiple colors on it then its identity is multicolored not monocolored. This is self evident.
>>96815568Thank you for confirming my hypothesis.
>>96815391You forgot the best plains
>>96815128>tqKinda. I have a Bartolome/Lurrus deck that counts. Currently brewing and Abzan graveyard pile, most likely with Karador at the helm, but considering the Friends Forever fags.
>>96815564I'm really enjoying how I can now ensure Swat is in every opening hand to completely shut down trying to spot remove my engines.
>>96815564Truly a visionary
>>96815617Remember though Griselbrand is too OP for B5.
>>96815320> that foil islandGrim
>>96815640i mean griselbrand just fucking wins then and there nigga
>>96815592My LGS has this one autist who seethes if you play any of the SpongeBob stuff in his general vicinity. It's hilarious.
>>96815652He also costs 7 mana, which according to Gavin is fine
Bracket 1 doesn't mean statistically unlikely powerful plays can't happen.
>>96815652So does another 7-mana reanimation target but you're not ready for the discussion on 5c deck privilege.
>>96815659I would run EsponjaBob kindred just to trigger him
>>96815128>TQrelatively? I have a Descend/Fungus deck with Mycotyrant, but it isn't entirely about the graveyard.I do, however, have an ANTI-GRAVEYARD DECK headed by Anafenza. Almost every card in it exiles and destroys, or denies entries, casts et.c. from graveyards. Go ahead, mill yourself a bit, and I'll just clear your entire graveyard out again!
>>96815682Atraxa does not draw 30 cards on the spot, no
>>96815684stop using translator, 3rd worlder
>>96815696Neither does gristlebrand
>>96815696Yeah she's actually better because you can't Notion Thief or Bowmasters her.
This guy is the ultimate "hidden commander" commander. Give me some ideas for him.
WGB = reanimate creaturesRU = reanimate spells
>>96815704
>>96815711What is the point of that power.
>>96815706If you don't have Notion Thief or Bowmasters and Griselbrand resolves, you just lost right here and now. The same is not true for Atraxa because Atraxa is merely a good value play instead of "you have 1/3rd of your deck in your hand now"
>>96815724"Target opponent draws 14 cards."Worst effect ever?
>>96815523>not having the original old-frame printingngmi. I heckin love old frame lands and I’m in a mission to collect all of the pre-modern basics.
>>96815744If an opponent casts Notion Thief as a result of my first trigger, I simply do it another time, draw7 cards, and kill Notion Thief just as it drops.
>>96815741Funny, that reminds me of another bracket 1 card...
>>96815738It has multiple uses, all of which are very strong.>double up on any creature's ETB>exile a creature you control as part of a temporary effect before it gets back to your opponentBut most important>the takeover counter persists after your commander is gone. >ergo: if you exile a creature under him, that card can effectively be "your commander" for the rest of the game
>>96815764The tickler is still one of my favorites.>I get my entire deck>you get jack shit
>>96815744Retard. You would draw 7 but Grisel player could just keep drawing with that on the stackAlso, you don't have it.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96815789>No you see the Grisel player always has it in bracket 5 but people playing against Jin in bracket 1 will
I'm glad that Gavin said Coalition Victory is stronger than Kinnan.
>>96815793Jin's counter is any removal spell. Sure, you're left worse off in card advantage but not to an utterly backbreaking extent like Griselbrand.
>pull this card in my commander night signup booster>look up the priceWow wtf why is it so much? I feel like it's fairly niche.
>>96815851>double landfall triggers>nicheLMAO
Twenty-five (25) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
>>96815866I guess that's true yeah i was too focused on the bird parts
>>96815851Some of them are super rare and mess up the value average. The regular one is like $15-20.
>>96815884Yeah I was looking at the regular, it's 25-28€ rn
This is what they took from you
>>96815916One of my favourite card arts
>>96815916Would look much better if they made her a fat genderless niggress.
>>96815724>Activate him 4 times>Draw 28 cards>Activate him 5 times>Draw 35He doesn't draw 30
>>96815948
>>96815953>Gristlebrand draws you 30 cards!!!>No he doesn't>Lmao baitJust because you can't do first grade math doesn't make you right
>>96815975What if I have 211 life and an opponent has Alms Collector out?
>>96815789>Also, you don't have itYou're right, I run alms collector like a good little communist>Pay 7 life: you and target opponent both draw a cardWhat a rate, Richard Garfield you've done it again
>>96815987Damn you got me there
>>96815998> I pay 7 to draw 7> with that on the stack I flash in alms coll..> ok well in response I pay 14 and draw 14> then I allow your Alms Collector to resolve and I use this removal spell on it, with my original draw 7 still on the stack
>>96816062Uh no? You cast Griselbrand and in response I flashed out Alms Collector.
>>96816075You don't have it
>>96816075Alright, I wait for your Alms Collector to drop, let my Griselbrand drop, and I cast Go For The Throat at your Alms Collector. Do you have a response? If not, it dies then I activate Griselbrand once.
Twenty (20) starting life is objectively superior to twenty-five (25)
>>96816089>>96816096Sorry sweaty. You're tapped out because you spent all your mana to cast Griselbrand :)
>>96816096
>>96816125saved
>>96816096(I'm a different player, I just don't want you to draw your deck)
>>96815916>>96815942Much better now!
>>96816167Stunning and brave
In response I tap 2 for disruptor flute naming thrassios then pass priority
>>96816197AIEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!
What kind of deck would you put this card in?
Dear Gavin, Huge fan.Where did you learn you learn to fuck up so eloquently? I wish to follow in your footsteps.-Anon, 4chan.
In response to everything going on I cast Quicken. Any responses?
Is Isochron Scepter worth using? I figure you could slap counterspell in it and call it a day.
>>96816249>Is (notoriously problematic card) worth using?
How many games of edh do you suppose Gavin has played last year
>>96816167Literally genocide
>>96816258Three but they were only with people running the worst decks imaginable. Actual bracket 1 shit.
If your deck likes saccing artifacts, how many copies of Ichor Wellspring would you be willing to play?
>>96816247I tap a land for mana causing an uninteractable infinite loop with toph and caged sun causing a tieNext game?
>>96816237Any deck with cradle and hoof, seems like a pretty compact wincon>Have any Cradle-adjacent functional reprint on the field>Cast Speaker, tutoring Craterhoof>Tap Cradle>Untap Cradle>Tap Cradle and Hoof for the winWorks with Nykthos as well.
>>96816262love it, specially 'cause Zegana, I have a friend with her as the cmm
>>96816226WHF
>>96816237Im going to test it in my selvala explorer returned deck 5 sure
>>96815916sorry anon, there's YT peepoo in this one and that's offensive for our customers
>>96816226I’m sick of you, I hate you.
>>96816249Yes anon, isochron sceptre is a good cardhaving infinite copies of any spell <=2 cmc is in fact pretty good
>>96816249It's the core of a lot of combos, infinite and otherwise
Have you all heard the legend of the 4 STAX players?There once was a time 4 players sat down.All mono white, it was the way of the town.They shuffled their piles,And dealt 7 tiles.The first player went first and he played a plains.The second player went second and he did the same.Drannith Magistrate came out, and was stax piece the first.All other players said 'your the worst'Avacyn was cast and in the ensuing strifeOne player near died except he gained lifeThe turn kept passing amd passing aroundThats all that would happen in monowhite townBelieve it or not but the legends sayThose players began 5 years to the dayContinue they struggle, in vain what a pityThey almost decked out but for elixir immortalityThey stayed in the store though leave they were badeA tomb for eternity they themselves have made
>>96816226What is his secret?
>>96816462Thanks chatGPT, very cool
>>96816266Probably
>>96816249>one of the most abusable cards in the game is kind of okay right I guess???
>>96816167Is WotC one of those >the native South Americans didn’t ACTUALLY perform human sacrifice, that’s just a racist colonial lie!!!companies, despite having art made by the fucking native themselves depicting human sacrifice and explaining why they did it?
>>96816508Probably
>>96816462Nah you also need black in there for them randomly playing discard spells and they all cope about how it's needed to stop draw-go.
>>96816508It's not like the Europeans weren't also doing human sacrifice, they were just doing the secular version.
Commanders (printed with the format in mind) with 4 or more colors were a mistake
>>96816527Europeans hadn’t practised religious ritual sacrifice for 1500 years or more by the time discovered the new world.Execution under a system of laws is not the same thingTip your fedora all the way back to r*ddit
>>96816540Yeah, killing people in the name of God is totally different from working people to death in silver mines (with conditions so hellish that the Europeans themselves called the place the Mouth of Hell) and plantations!
>>96816552>oh no slavery!?!? A practice found the world over since the dawn of mankind!?What race internationally outlawed slavery btw? Was it the Chinese? Oh- wait, perhaps the Australian Aboriginals?
>>96816552Yes actually ritual sacrifice and slavery are very different things
>>96816563No race or nation in all of history has praticed slavery in the scale and cruelty as Spain.
>>96816569AHAHAHAHAHAAAA
>>96816567Yes, the ritual sacrifice killed way less people overall and inflicted less suffering.
>>96816569>dodges the questionSo what kind of brown are you?
I think Eminence is cool and they should print more cards with it.Edgar in particular isn't even actually good, he's shit in bracket 4 and unusable in 5.
>>96816580>he’s going to try to bikecuck utilitarianism a justification for ritual sacrifice
>>96816569Absolute historylet hours
>>96816577Literally true. The Portuguese, the Ottomans, any given Chinese dynasty and the English; each enslaved less people overall then Spain.
>>96816563Abos are biologically not smart enough to even conceptualise slavery. I wonder what color abos would play if they played mtg. Probably green because they’re brain dead retards.
Mono colored Companions when?
>>96816593I do not see how killing someone in the name of a God is any different from sending them into a dark cave to die of starvation or exposure to fumes.
>>96815754Yeah but it's a dark foil. Pretty rare and cool. I think the Sliver deck was the only one to have that kind of foil?
>>96816591Effects that cannot be interacted with by other players do not belong in the game.This goes for eminence, emblems, and any spell that says “for the rest of the game”
why is this thread turning into a retarded racebait one? Let's keep it about retarded mtg topics like if Doomblade is a good card or not
>>96816603The average abbo IQ is ~61, they're not functional enough to play any MTG color at all.If they had gone extinct just 10 years before humans arrived in australia, everyone would have rightfully categorized as a different species, just like neanderthals.
>>96816610>if we don’t kill children, it won’t rain tomorrowis the same as>if we don’t enslave children a global empire ceases to functionIn your mind?
>>96816610>I don't see the difference between the ritualistic sacrifice of innocents and the punishing of criminalsWe used to lock people like you away to be molested by hospital staffers until you died and the world was better for it
>>96816591Eminence makes too many people seethe and shit themselves in fear. I personally love eminence but most niggas that play commander hate that shit.
>>96816625Question: would doomblade kill an Italian?
>>96816625We need Grief but it hits every opponent and itself can't be countered.
>>96816639>I just can’t understand why an effect that’s always on from turn 0 and can’t be interacted with in any way whatsoever would be unpopular to play against!!!
>>96816591Hi snail, not getting enough traction on your latest video?Eminence is a fundamentally flawed mechanic and should be universally banned+never reprinted
>>96816640They are nonblack, the question is: would mass calcify boardwipe italy?
>>96816625Eh a polcel had their little clitty leak because someone insulted their fairy tale about a Jew on a stick, just ignore all the mentally ill polcel coping.
>>96816632The global empire of child slavery is not in fact a thing worth preserving or keeping in function, and any efforts toward this goal are evil.Also, the enslaving children was utterly pointless as all the silver they were mining literally broke the economy and made silver completely worthless, causing the empire to stop functioning anyway.
>>96816640I may not consider Italians white but they definitely aren't black, so yeah probably
>>96816600Propagadized little slave. The transatlantic slave trade moved about 14 million people over its duration. The transsaharan slave trade moved hundreds of millions.
>>96816640Italians are Boros creatures by nature so yes>>96816645>We need Grief but it hits every opponentYes>and itself can't be countered.no
>>96816591eminence is gay and retarded free effects are broken, free effects that don't have a cost in cards are even more broken, and free effects with no cost in cards that can't even be removed are so broken it's truly a wonder it ever saw cardboard.
>>96816508Yep. And it's really fucking tiresome, as someone who loves the culture and religion of Mesoamerica. There are so many better ways of engaging with the sacrifice angle without sliding into a colonialist apologia.
>>96816634Yes, all those children surely committed many heinous crimes that made them deserving of being slave miners for the rest of their lives.>>96816673Literally completely impossible for the Transaharan trade to move hundreds of millions of people. It's absurd and unworkable. We would have difficulty moving that many people TODAY over that period of time, nevermind then.
>>96816676Clearly you never played against draw-go if you think it should be counterable.
>>96816673Yeah but reel tawk, what color would slavers play and what color would slaves play?
>>96816655I saw that guy's video but he was seething about Edgar for like half of it
>>96816687>Literally completely impossibleYou do understand that the slaves shipped west were purchased VIA the transsaharan trade right? Are you that retarded?
>>96816691fair enough didn't really think about it in that way
>>96816706Who owned the slave ships I read on pol that they were owned by Jews, is that real or made up clitty leakage
>>96816695>what color would slavers playThe Jewish faith is 1:1 azorius>what color would slaves playSubsaharan africa is 1:1 gruul
>oh my basedence your dragons PERMANENTLY COST 1 LESS?>this is broken because it's uninteractable, now you'll have a 6/6 on turn 5>btw here is my turn 3 two card combo irrespective of your Timmy commander gg?
>>96816695Slavers play blueSlaves play group hug, colour doesn't matter
>>96816682There is no actual point to including any of that stuff in Ixalan, just like there weren't any cards with pirates raping people and dragging people to slave markets, or with the vampire conquistadors building massive slave complexes or committing genocide. Nobody wants to see that shit but a handful of guys.
>>96816681But have you considered that they're fun and that your standards are stupid?Eminence effects that warp how a deck functions in ways that wouldn't otherwise be possible are soulful and cool, they creates a distinct and unique deck identity.
>>96816717wrong I'm black and play wubrg the most
>>96816706Yes, retard, but it is absurd and nonsensical to support that HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE were moved through it. No civilization back then had anything remotely resembling the capacity to move a HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE, nevermind MULTIPLE HUNDRED MILLION, ACROSS THE WHOLE OF THE DESERT AND OVER THE OCEAN
>>96816733slop soup really suits your people
>>96816682Hundreds of years and the descendants of shitskinned savages are still seething over europeans bringing them civilization... sad!
>>96816751I also have three Voltron decks, and three Naya decks if that matters
>>96816751White peopo don’t season dey deck
>>96816730Just play the cardif the effect is so cool and deckwarping it can work just fine on the field, and that's where it should stay. Cards in zones you can't interact with shouldn't have effects while in that zone simple as.>but I want to do the thing!tough titties
>>96816591>>96816655I personally think Eminence is fine, but only for Sidar Jabari and Arahbo.Edgar, Inalla, and Ur-Dragon all enable extreme degeneracy.
>>96816806>Can't interact withAHEM.
>>96816733>wrong I'm blackBe my bf>and play wubrg the mostEw disgusting wtf is wrong with you
>>96816722Personal bloodletting to feed your bonded dino companion would have been a pretty neat angle that acknowledged the bloody nature of the culture while reworking it into a more positive cultural element.
>>96816826
>>96816833I only date twinks sorry anon
>>96816839I wish Tevesh Szat was good. He gets hated off the board no matter what.
>>96816834Well, it would sound stupid as fuck, because the whole point of a dino mount is that it can bite and eat people. Why are you feeding it YOUR OWN blood? Just have it eat your enemy.
>>96816718You can counter and remove a combo.
>>96816826No way this dude doesn’t get nuked off the board as soon as his put in play.
>>96816730>my le fun is le more important than le the le balance of the le gameIncorrect
>>96816744Consider the fact it was going on for much longer than the fucking transatlantic slave trade you shit-for-brains retard
>>96815764>"eeeer he is too expensive to be a GC">implying people didn't throw him in the grave or used dodgy stuff like Belbe's Portal to put him on the fieldSeriously, did these people actually play the game at all?
Will they ever reprint this so it isn't approaching $100?
Eminence effects aren't even warping on the deck, it's just that you get free shit for running a tribal deck you could already run before. There is no meaningful unique deckbuilding, it's just "run lots of Vampires" or "run lots of Cats" and so on
>>96816910You should have bought one when edh was fun and this card was 2 dollars doofus.
>>96816744Buddy, these numbers are all estimates anyway. The transatlantic trade only existed for barely 300 years. The African slave trade existed for thousands of years, pre-islam even. You mentioned the ottomans. They were the fourth great Islamic empire. All of which practiced chattle slavery. Again, the slaves purchased west were bought in African markets. Europeans couldn't even penetrate Africa due to disease. Pre-germ theory. That alone means the TAST could not have eclipsed the African trade, by mathematics alone. You might be confused by relative population stats, given that in the west slaves could have families, whereas in the east they were largely castrated.
>>96816887Oh, he does. Stealing someone's commander is the funniest shit.
>>96816899It was running for literal millenia and still did not get even close to a hundred million. It enslaved around 10-17 million people from the Middle Ages to the 17th century. You simply do not understand how much it would take for anyone to move 100 million people anywhere consensually, nevermind forcibly. If you moved several hundred million people anywhere within a 300-year timeframe with Middle Ages technology I would fucking kneel. 100 million is a lot of people. It is an absurd amount of people.
>>96816887That is exactly what happens every single time
>>96816920I have one, but I want two more.
>>96816887if your friends aren't retarded they wont care about the ult and he'll still get nuked anyway for drawing 3 cards a turn
>>96816893But they're clearly not unbalanced given that none of the Eminence commanders are competitive at all.Edgar and Ur-dragon are quintessential bracket 3 cards.
>>96816911It’s not about their strength it is simply that free effects from the start of the game that cannot be removed or stifled is atrociously bad designMost people don’t even fucking cast Edgar when they run him, they just want access to mardu and free vampires. Having a free continuous effect that can never be removed is worth running even if it said “at the beginning of your end step scry 1 and the player to your left gets to punch you in the balls”
>>96816903short answer: ofc not, are you retarded?they are paid to fuck the game, anon
>>96816932>still did not get even close to a hundred millionAccording to whom? You?
>>96816952Yeah I agree. I was responding to the earlier idea that eminence effects warp your deck and that you have to play around them, and like, you don't. You just do what you were doing but now you get rewarded extra for doing it.
>>96816911Inalla is the only cool one, because it's the only one with a remotely unique effect and the only one that has an actual cost. Not a very big one, but at least the deck is unique.
>>96816932I'll accept literally all of that, and still the western trade mathematically could not have moved more people. It's like saying people buy more groceries from Walmart than Walmart distributes. Maybe it isn't 100 million, but it's objectively more than were shipped west.
>>96816910Yes but it will be a SLD print featuring Teletubbies
>>96816959According to all estimates on that very same trade, which don't even reach half of that number, nevermind your proposed tally of several hundred million. If they enslaved one hundred people every single day for 1000 years on end it would not reach 100 million.
>>96816968Do you think the spanish ONLY enslaved blacks or something
>>96816952But there's nothing wrong with that, you might personally not like it but it's objectively not overpowered and frankly a necessity to make outdated archetypes like vampire tribal worth using in an age where every new commander is stacked to the brim with infinite value generation and a bunch of easy combos.Emincence is fun to use and given that it's not overpowered there's also nothing for its opponents to actually complain about, it's quite literally just crab bucket mentality.>my commander can't do things from the command zone so none of them should!! Pathetic.
/edhg/ - World History
>>96816991>they printed busted goodstuff bullshit so we need more busted bullshit for my pet archetype to compete with the other bullshit!What if instead of that, they just stopped designing broken cards? What if you stopped playing with goodstuff shitters?
>>96816991>a permanent free buff that cannot be interacted with in any way whatsoever isn’t overpoweredWrong.
>>96816991Edgar has been in print for almost a decade and he’s still top 2 on EDHREC. How is that not overpowered in your world?
>>96817017Yes it's not, again both Edgar and Ur-Dragon are barely even usable in B4.You're mad about the concept, not the reality.>>96817037None of the top EDHRec commanders are broken, they're just popular because they're fun or easy to pilot.Nobody runs Edgar in CEDH.
>>96817059>None of the top EDHRec commanders are brokenTop what? 10? 20? 30?Because just in the top 10 you have Yuriko, Sauron and Kenrith which have absolutely been played in cEDH.
>>96817059cEDH is not the measuring stick for whether something is overpowered or not I wish cEDH never existed so 1. Tryhard faggots wouldn’t use it to fuck up a casual format and 2. Retards like you wouldn’t try to use it as justification for bad card design.cEDH is a different meta, that’s it. The goal is to end the game as quickly as possible and a guy who just makes 1/1 tokens isn’t doing shit to end the game.If you are playing a version of the format where the goal is not to play as little EDH as possible, then free effects that can’t be interacted with are absolutely busted bullshitThere is nothing you can say
>>96816981Are you saying the Spanish enslaved all of the peoples they conquered? Conquest is slavery? If thats the case the Soviet Union and Maosit China hold that title.
be sure to go into the WOTC discord to complain about the changes because right now it's full of trannies defending the hybrid mana change because they're demons who only like destroying things
>>96817089I was thinking the top 5, which are all generally very casual.>>96817100>if your goal is to just kinda dick around instead of winning then eminence is broken!!Lol okay.Still not even true though, all of the Eminence commanders underperform even in just mid/high power bracket 4, they're very casual cards that are popular because they're enjoyable to use for a lot of people.
>>96817126>it's full of trannies defending the hybrid mana changeOf course I know xie, xir's me!
>>96817130>>if your goal is to just kinda dick around instead of winning then eminence is broken!!>Lol okay.No. Not what I said. If you thought your argument was right you wouldn’t have to strawman mine.In cEDH the aim of the game is to win as fast as possible. Sometimes by turn 3, but ideally turn 1. >swamp>dark ritual>entomb thassa’s>demonic consultation>reanimateIdeal opening, turn 1 win.That’s not the game you play. Youre not trying to win on turn 1. Your decks probably couldn’t even win turn 1 no matter what combination of cards you opened with.Don’t play the faggot and tell me that not trying to win on turn 1 is dicking around when you know full fucking well all of your own decks would be considered “dicking around” by the standard you just created
>>96817114Conquering a people and specifically extracting forced labor from them en masse with the penalty of death is in fact slavery.
>>96817168There's very little chance anyone would go for that turn 1 win even if they had it in hand. cEDH games tend to end between turn 3-5, sometimes 2 and sometimes they drag on forever.
>>96817197it used to be a lot faster back when jewlotus crypt and dockside were legalnow it's just midrange hell fighting over rhystic studies
>>96817185Totally agreed. The communists still beat the medieval Spanish according to that standard.
>>96817222Turbo and midrange hell tend to trade places cyclically in cEDH, and yes there was a turbo period even after those bans. But even then turn 1 win attempts were rare, ain't nobody risking getting blown the fuck out by a FoW turn 1.
>>96817168entomb still being legal in b2 and not a GC still boggles my mind
>groupslug? burn>lifeloss? burn>lightning bolt? burnI tap my catapult, you get burned, simple as
>>96817241Especially considering how in a graveyard recursion deck it's comparable to a wordly tutor, which is a GC.
How do the two Edge of Eternities precons measure against the FF ones? I got a game this weekend with a group of friends that got Terra, Cloud and Tidus' and I don't know what to expect other than being the odd one out.
>>96817197Lmao okay outed for not knowing what the fuck youre taking about lmao
>>96817256I think they're stronger personally
>>96817256The proliferate one can be pretty damn good. People here will bitch about how boring and vanilla it is due to the overabundance of +1/1 gimmicks these days, but it does work.
>>96817197>There's very little chance anyone would go for that turn 1 win even if they had it in hand>a cEDH player wouldn’t try to win even if they had a winning combo in handNigga what? Also didn’t you literally just say that not trying to win is dicking around? Make up your goddamned mind
>>96817239>But even then turn 1 win attempts were rarerogsi was top tier back in the day, the bans really hurt it
>>96817258>>96817280Every good turbo player I've ever known or played with would wait a turn, maybe 2, to see if some counters fly out for an early rhystic, a mental misstep on a sol ring, stuff like that. Going for a turn 1 win attempt is extremely risky and the first guy to try and combo early usually just ends up eating all the free countermagic. That is not to say that they wouldn't try to win early, but they would usually wait at least until the second turn so they could go for it having more info on the table.
>>96817264>>96817277I see, good. Thanks. I'm really fond of Inspirit. Artifact and proliferate are pretty nostalgic, but I haven't played in years so I hope I don't get wasted too fast.
>>96817309Confirmed for having no clue what you’re talking about, thanks
>>96817277I bullied the proliferate one to death with a single Hellkite Tyrant
How many token doublers is fine before I become a faggot in a token spam go wide deck (deck is otherwise fair magic/no infinites just immense token synergies)
>>96817445What is your commander?
>>96817445All of them.
>>96817445all of themand literally no token producersyou are now redeemed
>>96817445Any amount is fineIf you go too hard on them you increase your odds of bricking anyway
Everyone arguing that the hybrid rule should not change to the proposed version and should stay how it is now is an absolute fucking idiot.
>>96817541Please understand they unironically have low-functioning autism and struggle with change.
>>96817541Everyone arguing on this website in any capacity is an absolute fucking idiot. Yes, that includes me.
>>96817541
>>96817470Zurgo or Ceasar. Both can command it just fine.Right now for doublers inhave Mondrak, Elspeth storm slayer, and that tripler god i cant remember the name of right now
>>96817236Not really, unless you cartoonishly overestimate how many people were ever in gulags even by the most absurd and inflated stats.
>>96817549I wasn't the one who replied to your question by the way. Some other anon did.
>>96817657Is it more likely that the soviets over reported or under reported?
>>96817707They were an authoritarian government that spawned from a different authoritarian government that's literally the origin of the term "Potemkin village"They were absolutely fudging numbers to make themselves look good.
>>96817717so is "more people in gulags" good or is "less people in gulags" good
>>96817541>imagine not being able to deal with your color's weaknesses and having to lower the standards for the format to copeSad. Pathetic! Many such cases.
>>96817730Which makes you look better to other countries?Also, remember that the USSR covered up a damn genocide for multiple decades.
>>96817717Potemkin village myth is gay and retarded btw they knew those villages weren't real, it was intended as a demonstration
>>96817580In my experience with zurgo, if you have a single doubler out and are able to capitalize on it, you have probably won the game. You don't need multiple out, but it is good to be able to consistently be able to get one out. The ones I have in my deck are exalted sunborn, elspeth, and the kaya that doubles tokens. So far I have won plenty of games off of just warping in sunborn. Do with that information what you will.
Post and rate decksPic elated are some of mine
>>96817803>revisionist slopKek, sure. The Czar really wanted his girl to know how good the people were at packing up and reassembling towns.
>>96817857nta but I'm considering dedicating ~20 or so cards in a monowhite control shell to tokens for draw and board presence, what does it take to turn a set of doubled tokens into a win? Just big stuff like moonshaker cavalry, or what?
>>96817892>the CzarPotemkin wasn't the czar, please be quiet on topics you know nothing about
>>96817865You became financially crippled some time in the last few years
>>96817786>Which makes you look better to other countries?That's the question. Is it better to have captured and imprisoned more dissidents, showing that nobody is beyond your reach, or fewer, showing that few people dissent in the first place? And which will be more believable?
>>96815514shame, mirrodin plains are absolutely beautiful
>>96817865for some reason anons don't like mine
>>96817918False
>>96817927Generally, it's a bad look to have to crack down on dissidents. To other authoritarian countries it makes you look weak, and to non authoritarian countries it makes you look monstrous.
Get on my level Plainslits.
>>96818015>lightning boltcolor pie break
>>96817952Your builds could be cool, but without other info it seems like a lot of sneaky pubstompers and UB putting people off
>>96818015Based Odyssey lands strike again
>>96815391There's always ice age snow covered plains. Fucking love the art on those.
Why did he Redeemed?
>>96817894It depends. What applies to my zurgo deck will likely not apply to a mono-white go-wide deck, because in my case I'm largely killing people off of things like doubled myriad and mobilize triggers with impact tremors effects, and it is after several turns of slower draining. For your case, things like moonshaker cavalry will definitely help. You will just need a couple cards to turn an average case scenario for tokens in your deck for death to 3 players, whatever that might mean.
>>96818055rhys is mtg's kitboga
>>96817445Just run Elspeth and Anointed Procession. Parallel Lives if you're in Green, or Renewed Solidarity if tribal. That's all you need. The God is overkill and a removal magnet as well as the angel. Focus on enchantments since they're harder kill and always run Elspeth since she's never a dead topdeck.
>>96817894I mean, anything that cares about the number of creatures on the battlefield turns into a 'you win' card in token decks.Cathars CrusadeMoonshaker CavalryMirror EntityDragon Throne of TarkirSoul Warden effects (with a way to use the life)Ashnod's Altar into any big spellHell you could even be funny and use weird stuff like Crescendo of War to buff your tokens to absurd levels, people rarely remove that card unless it is about to be a problem for them specifically.Or Sword of Ages to turn all your guys into a missile and shoot it at someone's face.
>>96818055He was previously exiled for being gay
>>96817894Purphoros and that's it
>>96818262He said monowhite, silly.
>>96818281Myrel and Glaring Fleshraker
>gandalf the white player chuckles>drops panharmonicon and wedding ring>le funny grouphug UW rabbit chuckles>drops forced fruitionYOU FUCKING RETARDS STOP
>>96818292Fleshraker only works if you're making colorless token creatures, so I guess you'd have to make artifact soldiers or something.Myrel is just really good in general for those kinds of decks.
>>96818255but he's still gay
>>96818281PURPHOROS AND THAT'S IT
>>96817541Putting cards with white pips in my mono red deck doesn't make senseSorryColor identity is the single most important thing about edh
>>96818308I play this in gay kings w/ knowledge poolIve lost to the card advantage before but thats what makes it fun
>>96818350>knowledge poolthis card is too powerful in mtg. not because it's strong, but because some people absolute HATE it. I legit witnessed people scoop the moment it hit the battlefield.
>>96818408Why?
>mfw i just realized there are people out there who only play with precons
What color(s) would he be?And his abilities?
>>96818439same people that complain about tax mechanics: they don't like cards that disrupt their flow.
>his basic lands aren't Noah Bradley, Alayna Danner, John Avon, or Rob Alexander
>>96818459Protection from good taste
>>968184591RRGoblin Slayer3/2 Human KnightFirst Strike, Deathtouch against GoblinsProtection from Black and Red1WW Destroy all Goblins. Reveal cards from the top of your library equal to the number of Goblins destroyed this way and put any number of Equipment cards onto the battlefield, attached to Goblin Slayer.
>>96818439it's a massive pain in the ass and there's no way to tell who's going to immediately take advantage of it without knowing who's packing a bunch of cantrips. if you're already playing something like sen triplets with telepathy out, that's one thing, but it's like asking why people scoop to scrambleverse.
>>96818450I have severe precon fatigue and I automatically think less of anyone who uses them these days.
>>96818459art and name swap of tivadar of thornthat's it
>>96818500Well, if you're just playing a card that powerful without any way to back it up, then yeah. Scrambleverse, however, is based.
>he runs less than 36 lands and 10 rocks
>>96818514>a card that powerfulthe issue is that it has a good chance to just whiff and then everyone's stuck until someone puts artifact removal in the pool and then someone casts it.
>>96818459This >>96818509
I'd appreciate it you guys responded to my posts in a timely manner
>>96818517When I got into magic the Spirit Squadron precon was one of my first decks (unaltered for a long time), and I felt I had a hard time getting consistent lands especially early, looked it up recently and the fuckers put 35 lands in there in totalPrecons that can be picked up by noobs should have at least 37-38 lands minimum.
>>96818560Most precons have 40 lands I believe
>>96818588indeed, that's what fucked me up. the ones my friends had at the time also had more card draw and .. were just simply better. I made some changes to the spirit precon in the last couple of days and realised just how ass it truly is.>pay more >get lessvery cool!
>>96818603Only precons I ever got were the Fallout ones. They still hold up really well.
>>96818517>10 rocksI find this extremely difficult to reach outside of three color+. And fucking forget it in mono color.I usually go 7 because I'm not tossing in 3 mana mediocre rocks to hit 10.
>>96818308>forced fruitionBASED BASED BASEDI once 'milled' and entire table with that shit.
>>96818622They're good but I wouldn't say any of them are power houses. I got the Ceasar one just because New Vegas mentioned.
niggas in the official magic discord aren't allowed to tell each other to kill themselves so they just talk like alexander hamilton at each other
>>968186566-10 is the sweet spot. You really don't want to go over or under. It depends entirely on the deck and it's average CMC (mana value or whatver the fuck they call it now). But you at least want to be able to draw and play a ramp card every single game.
A reanimation deck keeps playing this little fella, and you don't have an answer. What do?
>>96818679That is definitely the best deck of the bunch, and my personal favorite, but it is so tedious to keep track of the triggers. I kept all of mine completely in theme of Fallout and only "upgraded" by adding cards from the other decks. Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile for example. With all of my playtime with them, I'd say they rank as followsCaesar>Mothman>Dogmeat>Dr. Madison Li
>>96818685>using trannypedocordWhat did you expect? Might as well use the MTG reddit while you're at it. Face it, we are all you have. We're there for you when no else is, faggot.
"BLACK PERMANENTS could be here" he thought
>>96818705Do you need us to all post the countless graveyard hate cards in the format?
>>96818705I'm brewing this rn lmao, with all the one-drop searchers and reanimation engines (picrel). Also his White brother. When done against me I just tap my Grand Abolisher and smack them.
>>96818747Based. Don't forget Sun Titan and Kami of False Hope!
>>96815193I don't know if it's necessarily gambling when it's just "ha ha I cast your shit for free with very little interaction."
>>96818705>you don't have answerWhat's that supposed to mean? I just hold on to an instant removal and cast it before my turn>b-b-but next turn he will-there is no next turn, I main xenagos
>>96815128>TQI am the physical embodiment of Golgari as a color identity.What deck of mine ISN'T a graveyard deck?I actually feel nervous if there isn't graveyard recursion and get a mild sense of anxiety if I'm forced to "play something once."
>>96818705UmmmI ALWAYS have it.
>>96818760Yeah that's his White brother. A buddy gave me a foil years ago, been looking to put it to use for a long time.
>get commander sphere countered>my commander counteted>get random shit countered>have no nonlands permanents >have the lowest life total>have no cards in hand>get swung at for 40 because im the threat>literally no tutors or combos>my commander is liberty primeI ended up leaving because I assume they are retard cunts, but should I remember their faces and run stronger decks? More interaction really, instead of I guess a 2
Reminder your deck can have GC's and still be bracket 2 via discussion
>>96818794>I ended up leaving because I assume they are retard cunts, but should I remember their faces and run stronger decks? More interaction really, instead of I guess a 2the way you beat players like this (aka retards) is to slow roll your plays and then pop off super fast. make them use their counters on other people's non-threatening shit. i'm talking literally land-pass for 5 turns
>>96815916damn. that lesbian can draw.
>>96818809reminder that i can play with yugioh cards and still be bracket 4 via discussion
>>96818818Not sure how this is similar. Can you explain?
>>96816722>nobody wants to see epic fantasy - historical depictions of mass sufferingWRONG
>>968159166/10
>>96818794eat shit falloutfagplay a real magic card as your commander next time
>>96818854>art fagdiediediedie
>>96818794you either smash them before they can react, or you pillowfort/sandbag into a win state.what worked best for me:>aristocrats (winning feels boring tho)>groupslug>power matters>flingalso, extreme protection strategies. had some fun games with inspirit, winning me 1v3 games.but pretty much what >>96818811 said.
>>96816569Korea had the longest unbroken chain of slavery in the history of all races spanning nearly 2000 years.
>>96818535How would it whiff, you mean with nobody getting anything but lands exiled?
>>96816563>I NEEEED EDGEMake your own game then
>>96818705BECOME SPITEFULcreatures are pretty easy to fug over with out graveyard hate.
>>96818726"BLACK PERMANENTS could be here" he thought. "I've never been on this board before. There could be BLACK PERMANENTS anywhere." The air-conditioned breeze felt good against his unsleeved cardboard. "I HATE BLACK PERMANENTS" he thought. Walking on Sunshine reverberated throughout the gamestore, making it pulsate even as the $10 gamestore monster energy circulated through his owner's powerful thick veins and washed away their (merited) fear of nonwhite permanents on commander night. "With WW, you can destroy any BLACK PERMANENT you want" he said to himself, out loud.
>>96818947bretty gerdthe future might be alright
>>96815168nah, I love this nigga in my dino deck. I could see maybe making it a game changer, but even that's a stretch. why does this card bother you so much?>TQyeah, it's a landsmatter/GY, but idk what to do with it, so I just threw in all the Lumra land combos I could find, and it works
>>96818947KekWell done
>>96818944This kills the squirrelfag
>>96818947I need an after image where the gas station explodes cause he's a retard.
HEHEHE GO TO THE LGS.WASTE 15 MINUTES BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTED TO PLAY KINNAN IN BRACKET 2I TELL HIM NO AND HE WHINES FOR 15 MINUTES BEFORE CRYBULLYING THE OTHER TWO PLAYERS INTO LETTING HIM PLAYGUESS WHO HAD THE FUNNY 8-DROP ON TURN 4I'M SO GLAD GAVIN SAID HE'S NOT A GC!!! RULE 0 ALWAYS WORKS!!!
>>96818947Amazing. Great job
>>9681894710/10
>>96818705Win through means that don't involve combat damage. Like most of my decks, really.
what's your favorite mono green card?
>>96819158Birds of Paradise
>>96819158would you actually want to run this in a monog deck though
>>96819158kek. It's pic related.
>>96819158
>>96819217gee bill, how come your mom lets you have THREE fogs?
>>96819225three?I got basically infinite fogs until you spend your precious removal in my proliferate deck
>>96818947
>>96818705nothing. it doesn't stop my combo
>>96819158does this count? I can cast it for 9 green mana
>>96818947Hell yeah, brother!
>>96819217>finally got my retarded 20/20 mutated flying lifelink cat up>Atraxa drops this, only player at the table holding me back>nobody does anything against it because I have the retarded cat>scoop because I was mad>gets removed one turn later>be double mad
>>96819252scoopsissies... we didn't play it out...
>>96819111>go to the lgsFound mistake number 1
Rate my new sleeves /edhg/ (for my Terra deck)
>>96819452She looks hot AF. 9/10.
>>96819452The black and yellow look great tbdesutasteful/10
>>96819217Man I never did fully read that last line... i have this card and am about to slam it in a deck
>>96819158Simple, easy
>>96819252>atraxayou should have scooped sooner
>>96819111>things that didnt happenwhy make up stories to be mad about?
>deck feels mediocre>throw in as many fetches and shocks/bond lands/etc the deck can fit>deck is suddenly betterIt's as shrimple as that.
>>96819605The good thing about building a solid mana base is that if you get bored of that deck, you have the good shit for those colors already.
>>96819770This. You can never have too many fetch and shock lands. True duals are better, and check lands are my next favorite after the shocks.
>>96819158Not mld btw
>>96819252That's what you get for scooping like a pansy.
Is there any replacement for this card? I find myself putting it in damn near every deck, right up there with Sol Ring.>cheap $$$>gets around indestructible, usually gives you a big body with targets like Ulamog>since it's a creature it can be cheated out, abused, brought back from the graveyard>even if it's target is removed, still comes out as a 2/4>can be played in decks that have little colored options to exile, like monogreen>reveillark+karmic guide+sac outlet allows you to remove all creatures you want
IS there a more kino feeling than this?>My commander only exists at the end of each turn
>>96819878yes, stifling the yorion return trigger
>>96819878I'm a green player. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about and I'm not reading all that shit.
>>96819896yorion enters, exile dance of manydance of many return on end step, makes copy of yorion, new yorion trigger exiles yorion and dance of manynow on end of each end step, yorion enters and triggers.bligger deck turns this into yuge value.
>>96819926>my response
>>96818459Tranime incel shit has nothing to do with MTG
>>96819976wrong
>wake up>get baby ready for day>go to work >come home>get baby ready for bed>eat dinner>move a couple of cards around>go to bedI WILL FINISH THIS DECK AND FIND TIME TO PLAY IT EVEN IF IT KILLS ME
>>96818459Fully as a character he's probably Mardu (doing his thing for the greater good, driven by pure passion, but also extremely self-interested in how he pursues his goal) though is likelier better represented by Red. Abilities is something about getting stronger for Goblins on the field.
>TQI had made a budget Chainer deck back 2020 as part of a deck exchange, but loved the playtesting so much I made my own. Not as budget friendly, but still with some jank cards that give people funny looks on their faces
>>96820048Shake your baby until it stops crying then when it’s quite you can play more MTG
>>96820118>First strike, lifelink, protection from goblins>T, discard a card: All creatures get -1/-0 until end of turn. Goblins get -1/-1 until end of turn instead.
>>96819452You messed with the contrast but I can still tell your hands are black
>>96819452cool batman pjs
>>96820166that would be phrased "Each (other?) creature gets -1/-0 until end of turn. If that creature is a Goblin, it gets -1/-1 until end of turn instead."
I was going to say "hard agree with the Tivadar nameswap, albeit the type line is wrong because he's not a Lord"but then I remembered that Lord got errata'd :^)Goblin Slayer should probably be a Human Warrior but Knight is pretty close. he could be considered a type of paladin if you really squint
Everyone gets upset about him when I play him. And no, not because reee UB. They feel it is not bracket 3 despite being bracket 3.
>>96819158AIIIIEEEE IS THAT A MONO GREEN DECK RUNNING A FREAKIN ENCHANTMENT THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL?! AHHH HELP ME GHOST OF SHELDON
>>96815128>>TQ: Do you have a graveyard deck?Yes. We do a little reanimatinRather outdated image but you get the gist.
>>96820267>I just don’t get it guys, I cast Craterhoof for 3 mana and everyone got mad
>>96820281Why the would you even do that on turn 3?Also how is that not bracket 3?
>>96820267People tend to not like you cheating out gigantic creatures early in low-mid power. He is only a small step down from Satoru
>>96820317This isn't relevant to the post.
>get into mtg>play commander>75% of my games result in me not playing for the vast majority of it because mana locked by drawing too much or too littleIf theres one thing that ruins the fun its sitting there passing 10 turns in a row because I can't do anything.What am I doing wrong? Is it truly just poor luck?
>>96820321How is it not? It's the reason why people don't like to play against him
>>96820327How many lands are you playing?
>>96820317>>96820281I don't think you are reading properly. The issue is specifically "He is not bracket 3 despite not breaking any rule of bracket 3." Yet you both totally glossed out of it to create different reasons that have nothing at all to do with the reason the people are unhappy/How is a deck with 3 game changers and no two card combos and maybe wins on average turn 7 "not bracket 3"Because your ass didn't like turn 4 Avacyn? You ain't dead for several more turns. The game ain't over. Calm your tits.
>>96819452Back images are going to peel off after a game
>>96820334Well, we played this afternoon, and by the time the other 3 players had 10 mana, I was sitting at 4 banking on the ones I had and Arcane Signet to play anything.When I played last week, I drew so many lands, that it was quite honestly about 16 straight turns of only drawing lands. To the point where they told me to draw 3 cards outright just to get something and all 3 were still lands. So the exact opposite problem with the same deck. There was one time I actually got to enjoy it normally, but that seems to be the rarity.I'm literally playing with newer precons here, so its not like I've fucked myself over on land balance or anything by trying to make my own deck.
>>96818947I literally soi'd out when I read this.
>>96820338I didn't say they were right in assuming your bracket. A good game or a scary card can warp people's impression of your deck even if it is not necessarily that good
lookgive it to me straightwhat is the most cunny (cute and funny (loli)) EDH deck I could possibly buildI want to be side-eye'd to oblivion as I enjoy cute girls
>>96820429You'll have to join the yugioh table, Magic only has ugly brown hags with very few exceptions.
>>96820429Have you tried being normal?
>>96819869>ANSWER MY QUESTION!
>pod decides to come over to my house to play tonight>excited to try a "no ban list" EDH game in the spirit of the announcments>mono-green ends up winning out of nowhere with 20+ lands on turn 9 after multiple board wipes and a Humility>this is after he tapped out for 20 for a Genesis wave for 17 and got Mana Tithed>he put in Rofellos and Prime Time, got both out of course with all those green tutors and drawFuck mono green.
I’ve been considering getting into EDH after many years of playing magic. I was thinking of grabbing a precon deck and upgrading with cards from my collection. Are there any of the precons that come with decent starting powerlevel and mana base that would be good as a starting place?
>>96820469>turn 9bracket 2 game
>>96820469>losing to the weakest colorBig skill issue as expected of a frogposter.
>>96820472I wouldn't do that at all. If I were you, I'd pick a mono-colored commander that you like and then throw in all the strongest 62 cards you have in that color that seem to synergize with it and go from there and test it out. You need to learn how to build a deck first in the simplest way and go from there. Don't buy a shitty precon.
>>96820445That is a good start. Maybe Aminatou? A little too black for my tastes, but it could work. What about some cutie from Final Fantasy? I could also go with faeries if they are tiny and cute. Any other ideas?>>96820448no
>>96820472Anyone telling you not to buy a precon is trying to sabotage you over a personal agenda, there's lots of recent precons that are great starting points.Personally I'd recommend eithet the Edge of Eternities ones, or the Cloud and Terra ones from FF.
Avacyn should be a GC
>>96820485Counter Intelligence and the Necrons deck are pretty decent out of the box.
>>96820498She's much less oppressive than Jin and apparently he's not a GC anymore so no
>>96820486How about smug storm?
>>96817541OH BOY i cant wait to put dovescape in any white deck!
>>96820582holy shit yes!it even has such a bratty attitudeshe needs correction (ToT)although, limiting myself to two colors might limit my loli selectionit does not have to be ooops all lolis, but I wanna have a couple of lolis floating around at the very least, you feel me?
Odd how some people never learn not to reveal their power level.
>>96817541Here are the egregious hybrid colorpie breaks.
>>96820469>Monogreen didn't fastbond
>>96820327I can't say for sure, but I think newbies like to keep hands that don't really do anything. As a rule of thumb, you should have a rough plan for the first few 2-4 turns with your starting hand. That said, precons notoriously lack ramp and card draw, so it doesn't surprise me that you were behind for most of the game. But I also do wonder how you shuffled to end up with 16 turns of only lands. Please don't let it be something like the ygo anime shuffle.
Building a Yenna deck, not sure whether to do Buff creatures Aura or do copy and tokens like sagas and doubling season etc
>>96820827>Retard counted the cards that check the creature's color
AIEEEE THIS CARD IS TOO CONFUSING!!! MARO YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS LEGAL!!!
>>96820929It's pretty easy to get off color tokens and and green and blue have the ability to change cards colors.
>>96820950Never saw this lost AVGN episode
>>96820950mf really out here like "Yes if I run these 3 terrible cards together I can give a blue creature haste. Man I love breaking the color pie."
>>96820827Wow its fucking nothing
>>96821041>>96821041>>96821041
>>96818183I laughed
>>96820201Thanks anon you must have been looking at my dick size but alas I am just a dark Irish jew
>>96820827Well there ya have it. Case closed.
>>96820881>Please don't let it be something like the ygo anime shuffle.Nah its not.Not with the size of edh decks anyway.Genuinely have no idea how that happened with so many turns in a row with only lands, given that not only was the deck not brand new out of the box (it had been played before), but I'd shuffled it multiple times. Both by taking 2 halves and mashing together, and by cutting into 4s and mixing/matching the 4 piles into each other multiple times.Playing yesterday when I was locked for having basically no mana I mulliganed twice because I only had 2 mana in my hand each time and I've been advised to shoot for around 3. 3rd hand still only had 2 so I kept it. Probably should have just kept doing it.
>>96820445>ugly brown hags with very few exceptions.Such a shame they've forced the art direction to go that way.I'm not even saying you need anime girls and lolis, but god damn. At least Final Fantasy was nice.>>96820582>>96820486Its okay anon, I too refuse to play cards whose art I find insulting/patronizing.
>>96820267Because he's boring and overpowered. Nobody likes having to play against "I cheat out Emrakul on turn 3" the deck.
>>96820827Spitting Image is actually perfectly fine in green. Green doesn't do a lot of copying (usually it does "create a copy of a token you control" if anything, but creating copies of its own creatures is very much a thing it's ostensibly allowed to do).
