If you created an Amazon setting, what would it be like? By Amazon setting, I don't mean a single society among many where women are primarily the fighters, I mean a setting where every society is this way.
Men are forcefully raped for being weaker than most women.
>>96819157I will sacrifice myself so the rest of my male sailor comrades can flee.
>>96819157I'm okay with that
>>96819143>be a wizard>have cosmic powers>run out of food & spell ingredients>have to go shopping>leave well protected Wizard Tower for groceries>Get cat called & sexually harassed all the way there>can't shop without getting hassled
masturbate before postingmemes aside there's actually been a lot of stories that examine ideas like this. some are more serious than others
I thought this was going to be a burgerrpunk setting inside an amazon distribution centreMy disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
>>96819143>giant>women
>>96819143>for some reason, 90% of male children miscarry>male children are jealously guarded by their families>when they come of age, men are sold to a different family>they become husband to all the sisters in the family, a number that can range from 5 to 30 women>selling the male children is necessary so the sisters can afford a husband for themselves, but families that are wealthy or have many male children can split and have fewer husbands per sister>poors have no husband and if they want kids have to go to a whorehouse where they're fucked by a drugged up manThat sums up the setting of the book i'm reading, "a brother's price"
>>96819553>>when they come of age, men are sold to a different familyI would change this to arranged marriage who prove a handsome Dowry simply because of this part>male children are jealously guarded by their familiesalso this kinda reminds me of that Manga "world of Moral reversal"
>>96819593A dowry is different, this is the equivalent of a bride price, but reversed as the "groom price".And yes the setting is very much "moral reversal", the men raise children and women shoot each other with guns.
>>96819143PEGGINGEACHEY
>>96819636This is why nobody likes femdomCan't a dominant woman do normal sex things? Fuck off.
>>96819625my son isn't going to some family without offering up a giant wheel of cheese, 1 cow & 1 horse.
>>96819143Digital Devil Saga + IsekaiAll the women have divided themselves into separate tribes who are overseen by a goddess whose only command is to conquer the territories of the other tribes.New members are brought in as babies in special caches that randomly spawn in the world and are fought over to help bolster their own ranks
Amazon class. +2 strength mod-2 intelligence modEmphasis on martial arts and gladitorial training. Light armor requirment. Ability to fly into blind rages like barbarians. Their societies are structured as dominance hierarchies in which the physically strongest women rule. Trials are held every few years to determine who will become the new ruler. Warriors who have served in the army and proved themselves worthy are elligible to compete.Slavery exist but only male slaves are kept. And every man is considered to be the property of a woman (whether that be his spouse or his master). Only goddesses would be worshipped in their societies. Male gods might exist but are only worshipped by secret cults or secluded tribes.Men would either be relegated to playing the role of casters or just completely sidlined in favor of all female campaign milieu.
>>96819668Yeah that would be the equivalent of a dowry, it's just less impactful when they're paying much more than that just to marry your son
>>96819745So the price of a ham sandwich then?
>>96819766more like the price of a house
>>96819143Judging by your Anime picture, the Amazon setting's you want are the ones that are in Ecchi material?
There's an amazonian wargame being worked on.
>>96819553>30 wivesOh noooo. That sounds horrible
society amplifies the virtues of the majority alongside with its vices. meaning good and bad female attributes should be thoroughly exemplified throughout the setting
>>96819143wage cage factory world
>>96819999being toxic, reverse NTR, snide remarks to their rivals & always trying to 1 up that other girl?
depending on how recent this worldwide miscarriage event is on the evolutionary scale, we'll either see men and women at odds with their base reproductive instincts, or you'll have to come up with new modified behaviors based on the originals.
>>96819143>I mean a setting where every society is this wayThat sounds like it would be a extremely boring setting no matter how you try to write it
>>96819143Be honest OP, do you actually want to build a setting or do you just want softcore muscle girl art and veiled smut talk?
>>96820066i mean, most settings have men as primary fighters, are they also boring by default?
>>96819143Set it up as the result of some sort of curse over the entire planet. If men fight or kill, they eventually transform into monsters in a literal sense. The only way to avoid that is by the use of dark magic, which prevents the physical transformation and retains more of their intellect, but also corrupts them even further.Sets things up pretty well for a sword and sorcery setting, where the only male combatants would be evil warrior-mages, and possibly some sacrificial slave soldiers who are meant to just charge in and turn into a monster closer to their enemies than their allies. Though personally, I think Amazons are a lot less interesting when it's just the entire setting inverted, rather than just a distinct culture fleshing out a wider world.
>>96820074>>96819861OP here. There are some ideas I have:>Births skew women instead of male. Noble houses find a son extremely valuable for binding multiple noble families together>Women are the better combatants, especially in speed and coordination. Even amateur women could strip a minorly resisting opponent naked without harming them>Magic even seems to skew this, men can use spells that are large scale, but too slow and cumbersome for combat, women are better at the quicker, rapid reaction spells>Unless it involves combat (this includes typically one-sided combats like hunting), things that are considered masculine pursuits and feminine pursuits are NOT swapped>The fact that women are combatants does not default the world towards matriarchy, though military matters are still overwhelmingly dominated by women
>>96819143Assuming that it's not the result of some magic or curse like >>96820108 suggests, what factors could cause the average woman to become taller and more muscular than the average man?
>>96820168>>Women are the better combatants, especially in speed and coordination. Even amateur women could strip a minorly resisting opponent naked without harming themoh, so it's fetish stuff
>>96820178>could cause the average woman to become taller and more muscular than the average man?Why does it have to be that way? Why not keep the slender look with denser muscles, and/or make women so fast that in the time it would take a man to raise their sword, she could sever every major artery in his body.
>>96819143>I mean a setting where every society is this way.Then you have to decide *why* that is. once you have decided on the why, you have to think on what kind of ramifications it would have on society at large. once you have a grasp on those ramifications, you have to specify on a timeframe this changed society has been running under its new circumstances so you can determine how far deep the ramifications go, or if the situation has been going for so long that those ramifications have settled into a new social contract and status quo i could go on
>>96820168>Magic even seems to skew this, men can use spells that are large scale, but too slow and cumbersome for combat, women are better at the quicker, rapid reaction spellsid just change this where men excel at magic desu or it'll be too one sided.
>>96820232But then you couldn't have hot witch women.
>>96820238Sure you can. They'd just be more likely to rely on weapons for defense, and otherwise be able to perform powerful rituals. Or, if you just don't lock out either entirely, but just have things lopsided with physical women and magical men. Then you can still have a hot witch, but it'd be akin to a swashbuckler twink where she's playing against type.
>>96820168>>Women are the better combatants, especially in speed and coordination. Even amateur women could strip a minorly resisting opponent naked without harming themWhy leave it at that? Amateur warrior amazons should be able to strip naked a veteran male warrior with her bare hands, that's just how strong they are. They also tend to be taller and more athletic in their body types.
>>96820238stop being a fag & just go with athletically health tomboy warrior women & have bookish boys who get bullied by the tomboys.
>>96820168>The fact that women are combatants does not default the world towards matriarchy, though military matters are still overwhelmingly dominated by womenWait, I've seen this before...
>>96819143Did something once where there was a big war between the gods that saw most of the important gods killed, including the sky-father god, meaning that the things those gods were in charge of had to be reinvented from first principles by the remaining gods.The hearth goddess was able to slide into the role of goddess of women pretty easily, but inventing new methods of reproduction was determined to be easier than trying to reinvent men, so the only men in the setting were explicitly from other realities.Why, yes, this was mostly an excuse for a porn-brained low-stakes monstergirl-centric dungeon crawler.
>>96819143Magic atrophies your muscles while enlarging your dick.
>>96819143This is how armor works in the setting
>>96819143You first. Be detailed and specific.
>>96819553>90% of male children miscarryWho is impregnating these male children in the first place, and how?
>>96821250See >>96820168
From a sci-fi perspective, a thousand years or more from now, you could say that humanity mastered genetic alteration/genemaxing to the point that they could eliminate the physical weaknesses of women.>>96820263This is the way.
>>96821587>slop wars reddit memePost disregarded
>>96819143I much prefer amazons as a separate race or society, but if they must be the core of the setting I'd do it like this:>Post-apocalyptic fantasy setting>99% of men are dead, either because of wars or anti-XY chromosomes plagues or magic curses>99% of births are females>As a result, women are forced to take matters into their own hand>The inhospitable setting forces them to become toughened warriors>Society has devolved into warring tribes>Men are a highly prized treasure>Wars are fought over them>Men are treated like royalty, their wishes are orders to the women. However, they are still forced to take part in rigurous training regimes as it's believed a strong male will yield more male offsprings>Killing men is considered a heinous crime, answered by death sentence>On the other hand, impotent men are considered cursed, borderline demonic, and are sentenced to death by the stake the second it's found out>"Spent" men are also executed, but in a painless manner and with honours>Only proven elite warriors are allowed to breed with men, as it's also believed it increases the chances of male births>As a result societies (particulary the military) become hyper-competitive>Women who birth males are considered blessed and are given positions of power and "free passes" for further breeding attempts>Many women can't take it and either become hopelessly depressed or straight up mad. Suicide rates are highIs this some borderline softcore porn material? Yeah, I guess, but it's the only way I see making things somewhat interesting. Just having a standard setting where everyone is an amazon "just because" feels too lazy to me. That said, if you told me my idea feel cliché, I'd give it to you. Frankly, amazons-only settings are not something I'd make.
>>96819143I think you'd have to alter biology in a way to support it, with men being physically weaker than women and women possibly having more children per pregnancy to make up for the fact they're in hostile situations more than men and more likely to die. Even then, there's still a few other hurdles to cross regarding demographics and such.A lot of leadership in societies evolved as an extension of the warrior caste and whoever the family patriarch was, but because male genetics tends to produce a wider range of aptitude, I would imagine men would probably occupy some roles in governance and higher learning just due to sheer numbers of capable people. However, I think the society would consider those roles "infantized" and subservient to the rest of society because at the end of the day, might is king and men wouldn't have that, no matter how important their work is to keeping things running. It might even be more beneficial than our world because things like managers and politicians would be expected to be servile rather than aggressive like their warrior predecessors and ones who don't act the part would be cast out.One other thing about the world would be that the invention of the firearm would be one hell of a culture shock. If women were just physically stronger than men but men retained their natural endurance and relative physiological hardiness, the development of a weapon that would massively decrease the need for physical strength and proliferating it in a society whose warrior caste was made up of people who'd benefit less from it would cause a massive upheaval in the world. You might have some societies seek to highly regulate their production to maintain the status quo but invariably at least one or two would see a shift in who fills the ranks in war.
>>96823117>A lot of leadership in societies evolved as an extension of the warrior castebit of chicken/egg discussion that one, isn't it. Are you in charge because you have the biggest sword or do you have the biggest sword because you're in charge?
>>96823203When we were running around as a bunch of wild cave men, the person in charge was the one who could crack skulls the best. You got in line because your choice was to do so or feed the worms.Initially, this might've been done within a tribe which determined who the head of it was (Though a wise but infirm elder probably had a lot of pull too), but the minute one tribe realized they could get all of their men together and force their will on another tribe was when the first nation was formed. The person in charge of it wasn't a good governor but simply the person the rest of the men followed. Maybe he had the wisdom to promote someone more capable for certain roles, or maybe he attempted to run things he had no business running.Things might be a little different now because of the web of governance and the professionalization of militarizes along with the sheer number of people in the world, but throughout most of history rulership came by being the person most capable of exerting your will on others. I'm suggesting that a world where the people who have that quality but aren't suited for actually handling the day to day affairs and long term planning might have a really interesting impact on the way things are ran. On one side, you have a group of people who are in real control by virtue of might, but on the other you have a group that can fill certain roles the other cannot do as well. Contrasted by our history in which males have filled the military ranks, political positions, religious positions, and institutions of higher learning with women mostly being in a subservient role.Would this mutualistic design work better because it forces both sides to the bargaining table to get what they want? Or was our world best in which one side was reduced to a passive participant in history? It's hard to say.
Since I'm sure this thread is clearly for the creation of cum settings, here's something related to two powerful fetishes, interacial enemy rape, and human semen cattle.>Demons are the native sapients of the Netherworld. During the cataclysm known as "The Tangling", the Netherworld, Heaven and Earth ended up overlapping with each other. Heaven and Earth were able to survive easily, but the Netherworld suffers and is slowly being absorbed into Earth.>Demons can enter into earth through places on earth that have consumed the Netherworld more strongly than anywhere else known as Demon's Gates. They can also be summoned by weaker demons (more on that later). Passing through via Demon's Gates is the vastly preferred method.>The Tangling nearly destroyed demon reproduction, they initially believed that it had rendered them sterile. However, it wasn't long until they found that it wasn't the case (due to a demon warrior raping a male captive), and instead, demons are unable to breed with each other. Instead, they have to breed with the humans and elves of Earth, only ever producing full demons.>Demons that become too powerful end up victims of their own success, they can only enter Earth via summoning. Even then, Demons summoned to Earth will leave something behind, ending up feral, animalistic and needing the direction of the weaker demon summoning them. While it varies from demon to demon, a summoned demon might have their magical or physical abilities cannibalize the other, resulting in a lean towards the other and even a wildly different form when summoned. This has created a misconception on Earth of there being different breeds of demon but they are all actually the same breed.
>>96823420>The strength limit of Demon's Gates has been increasing over time. It's theorized that when Earth eventually absorbs all of the Netherrealm, all demons will be on Earth and none will be left behind to die. Whether this is a good or bad thing depends on who you ask. The Demon's Gates will also close since there would no longer be a Netherrealm.>Every demon's true form is identifiably different from a human, elf or dwarf. Clothing, glamor or shapshifting might hide it. With some demons, they only have minor demonic traits such as pointed ears (human but with a point at the end, unlike the long ears of an elf), others (typically only women) have strange skin colors, massive wings, tails, and other traits that make mundane disguise impossible even at a distance. However, none of them have demonic traits that go so far as to make them unattractive. Deformity is not impossible but it's the same kind of deformity that natives to Earth can suffer from.>Demons will form outposts nearby the Demon's Gates. Most of the time, these are far smaller than the civilization on the otherside of the Demon's Gate, but in certain cases, these outposts can grow to dwarf whatever Netherrealm settlements the nearby Demon's Gate connects to.>The physical form and abilities of demon males and females differ greatly, with the women having more combat oriented abilities while the men are better infiltrators. Both male and female demons often have to go out into the wider world to produce the next generation of demons either alone or in small groups.>Infant demons appear identical to the babies of the non-demon parent and as they age, will develop the physical traits that demons are known to have.
>>96823463>Female demons are easily identified as such, so they typically have to force themselves on males to breed. Once impregnated, they will return to their settlements to give birth and raise their child. Sometimes, they will bring back a specific man to breed with, and the fortunate ones might get a man with his consent, setting themselves up as his protector.>Male demons can easily hide their demonic features for long periods of time, only needing to revert in order to rest for comparatively short periods of time. Since forcing themselves on a woman will likely result in getting killed by that same women, they almost always need the consent of whoever they breed with. Most women who were impregnated by a demon are never aware of it, thinking they met a charming and handsome man, made a child with him and then one day waking up to find their lover and baby missing. Sometimes, women find out about their lovers demonic nature and rather than driving him off, will elope with him to one of the Demon's settlements.
>>96819143The strongest fighters are completely naked because no armor is any use when their bare skin can deflect anything.
>>96823473>Summoned demonesses are powerful combatants that can take a variety of combat oriented shapes. While a demons true form is always humanoid in shape, when that same demon gets summoned to earth, her form might be changed to go with their new animalistic mind. Their lower body might be replaced with some beast, their eyes could become a single color, they could grow to massive size or end up regressing in age to a childish or infant like state. The mightiest demonesses can end up more physically or magically powerful than a denizen of earth or heaven could ever be, an unexpected advantage of the cannibalization of their physical or magical abilities. The magically powerful ones are unable to use their magical ability with any finesse however, being more akin to a blunt instrument.>The strongest male demons have their glamor and other traits that allow them to travel among earthlings amplified power, they are not only able to disguise themselves but large numbers of demons as well as their activities. This can range as either a glamor that hides the demonic features of many demon women, or a perception filter that makes earthlings not notice what would otherwise be attention grabing. When this ability is more focused, it becomes mind control or brainwashing. One generation later, the populace didn't have any hostility towards demons, seeing them as half-siblings, spouses, co-wives etc. These demons are rather inept combatants and if their mental influence and guards can be overcome, can be banished back to the netherrealm with minimal effort. The strongest demon nation became so by a long-term scheme. They made an isolated nation friendly to themby glamouring its existing population to ignore demonic features, but sparing newly born people from this influence.
>>96823203>chicken/egg discussionIt really isn't. Early civilization had leadership evolve out of whoever could conquer most of their neighbors or prevent themselves from being conqueredThat eventually evolves into the latter, where a ruler passes down the leadership to someone who didn't seize the territory themselves, and instead has guards and soldiers to fight on their behalf, but that evolves out of the former. You need someone to unite a kingdom before anyone can inherit a throne.
>>96823377>The person in charge was the one who could crack skulls the bestArchaic homids were not retards and I really wish people would stop believing this. We already had a division of labor based not on physical strength but on capital by the Neolithic. Once we solved the issue of food, some people were fred from the chain of production and specialized on making leather, jewels and other goodies which gained value overtime and made those who made those things richer than those who worked in the fields.Women were kept in subservient roles first and foremost because of kids. A belly is a burden women have to carry for 18 months, delicate, painful and weakening; then when the offspring is born, it is born incomplete, defenseless, and it needs to be taken care of for 10 to 16 years. If I were to make Amazons, I would solve that issue first either by shortening pregnancies, or manpregnancies like sea horses, or eggs.God, shoot me in the head. Fuck you OP
>>96819157>>96819180Good bye friends. I never thought I'd die this way. But I always really hoped.
Here's an idea for the human semen cattle fetish in relation to elves, using hentai settings as a base:>Known as the Fae, Elves, Fairies, Fair Folk, Dryads etc.>Elves are essentially the gardeners and protectors of World Trees, who created them for such purposes>They are only women, but are physically weak, around even with men>Their protection methods involve hidden settlements, traps, glamours and other in-direct defenses>However, once these defenses are bypassed, elves are pretty defenceless against other warrior women, and would often get enslaved>Enslaved elves were used as servants, entertainers, and even sex slaves>Despite not being born sexually, they are capable of sexual reproduction, and would get impregnated by human men>Unlike elves born from World Trees, elves born of an elf are not defenceless, they can take on human women in even combat>These elf born elves would then lead slave revolts, liberating their tree born elves and kidnapping several men to perpetuate themselves>Will regularly raid humans or extract tribute of males, in practical terms because they need to in order to have proper defenders, but also because sex is pretty fun
>>96824111This is just a hentai premise, you fucking sappy jappy. I can almost hear the narrator saying all this shit in their ugly moonrune language, while elf women rape men to the sick ass beats of a violin. All that's left to complete your degenerate anime intro is naming the Rape Queen of elves and some hotblooded human knight who has resisted rape but will be mindbroken by the end of the season. Well what the fuck are you waiting for? Continue cooking. This also needs rape magic, mandatory in hentai fantasy.
>>96821605I didn't know that was from Star Wars. Pls no bully.>>96821795What if you had a society of amazons, but instead of the usual battle hardened, edgy ladies, they're mainly energetic and get excitedly curious about a lot of things. Kek. Now, I'm imagining the American tourist meme of someone in a Hawaiian shirt, and taking pictures of everything, but as a 7ft or taller woman.>>96824514I read this in Hoss Delgado's voice.
>>96824514>Thinks that this thread wasn't made by OP to share cum setting ideasHow retarded are you?
>>96820168You want wheel of time, basically
>>96825095You'll have to explain that to me.
>>96824969I can't cum without a good basic premise, fag
>>96824691>I didn't know that was from Star Wars. Pls no bully.That's even worse, that means you're just a bandwagoning faggot parroting third-hand memes you got from reddit.
>>96824514He literally said he got it from hentai, retard. He's a gooner faggot to be sure but it's entirely your fault for reading>Here's an idea for the human semen cattle fetish in relation to elves, using hentai settings as a base:And expecting to get anything but lowbrow coomfaggotry.
>>96823539>A belly is a burden women have to carry for 18 months
>>96823539>There was never a point in humanity when might was the sole source of authorityYou can argue what age it was in, but the fact is at some point that humans were little more than animals who forced their will on others and had a pecking order similar to wolves. Or do you think humanity just naturally sprung up as a cohesive unit without engaging in that behavior previously?
>>96826054wolf pecking order is like the parent couple and their kids
>>96826054If you wanna use animals as a basis, use hyenas>amazons are bigger and more aggressive than their males>pregnancy is undesirable so most bitches run free>sex is short and doesnt go beyond a quick fuck n cum>men are kicked the fuck away once their hormones grow out of control>men have to submit to the matriarch, lick their balls and humilliate themselves in order to be taken in>leaders are usually amazons, but sometimes the son of amazon is allowed to lead, but amazon femboys are still a rare sight>Amazons have pseudo-futacocks, which are greater and thicker than the men's itty bitty cocks
>>96826846>If you wanna use animals as a basis, use hyenas
>>96819143I co-ran one once.A handful of features.>Women are genetically altered as part of a standard medical procedure beginning by age 8.>For brievity, think female Astartes. The sexy kind, not the super-duper roided kind. But with extra organs, stronger bones, muscles, tendons, less need for sleep, trainable neuroplasticity, etc.>This process can't be replicated in men, because the boarderline mad scientist who made it several generations ago as a magnum opus was a raging misandrist and specifically wanted to depower men. Modern people generally don't know this though.>Officially, it just doesn't work on men, and R&D is being done to make an equivalent for men, but research is ongoing. >Unofficially, it's been blocked from high up, because none of the people in power, or most women, wanted men to upset that balance.>Women naturally outcompeted men due to being able to spend more time studying, and being better able to do so, so boys collages and university courses moved away from academia to a sort of 'finishing/etiquette/home econ' thing.>A lot actually, around handling women, as the procedure also raised aggression and competitiveness, reduced inhibitions, and of course, put women into positions of physical authority, where they weren't at risk of being physically or sexually assaulted for being too daring.>Similarly, beauty standards for men changed. Strength and resourcefulness being more female traits, softness, tenderness, emotional openness (to assuage the burning emotional heats a woman might get) and general dependency on their partner, were more socially desirable traits.>Some cultures even preferred chubby, or even obese men. A mix of more dependent, less personally able, and being padded to better handle a woman's greater strength.>Similar thing with clothes.>Because it's a relatively recent sociological transition, and because men can't get pregnant, laws and support systems to protect men aren't commonplace.
Just go to /d/ man.
OP again, it seems that this thread is focused on musclegirls. Don't pigeonhole yourself into that. Muscles don't have to be meaningful.
>>96826054>had a pecking order similar to wolvesIf you're referring to the whole alpha male tripe then you're a certified retard. >Or do you think humanity just naturally sprung up as a cohesive unit without engaging in that behavior previously?Depends on how far back you classify a human, but unironically yes. By the time anything resembling early hominid arose, those social behaviours were already heavily cemented on an intrinsic level. Altruism is selective.
>>96819143I wouldn't because one of my players is into that sort of thing and his cock would break the table in half by the end of session one.
>>96819143Post-collapse space empire. The patents for anti-gravity drugs for proper child development in space were never properly tested before the collapse, so the prototypes were circulated instead. In females it supercharges the growth cycle, but males tend to outgrow their own skin, so parents can usually afford to have amazonian daughters and skinny, lanky sons. More unscrupulous organisations tend to try a shotgun approach with the growth drugs in the hopes of a male who doesn't explode.
Finally, a good thread on /tg/
Why does women being stronger automatically translate to men being twinks? Women who are attracted to men tend to be attracted to, y'know, men. You could easily have a female dominated warrior-nobility ruling over a working class of strapping farm boys and rugged laborers.
>>96829489Women fawn over twinks all the time just look at k-pop and boy loveIf we model it after reality you'd have a variety of actual tastes and then a sort of idealized male form put out for society that all women and men think of as "conventionally attractive"
>>96829489This one understands, Amazons and some light matriarchy doesn't at all preclude men still being men
>>96829489ahem
>>96830684What am I looking at?
>>96830810the amazons from the game "The Nations"big strapping dudes who can only look for food or look for a new wifeand tall barbie body ladies who do everything else
>>96830680should the women being amazons put them at the same level as men, and thus you have an romantic fantasy where a husband and wife can be true equals and do everything together as soulmates, along with stuff like hobbies and gender rolls now being shared instead of divided?or should the women be outright stronger than the men, leading to females being the dominant ones?
>>96829489You're not thinking your worldbuilding though anon.If the gender roles are reversed, you could, and should, reasonably expect the normative conventions of social beauty to shift too.Irl we tend to prefer strong, capable men who protect and provide, and dependent, vulnerable, but still hardworking and committed women.If we assume the society idealizes strong, capable women who protect and provide, it's not unfair to assume the male ideal is someone that's vulnerable, dependent, but hardworking and spirited.>Inb3 'but I like muscle women'.Diverse preferences will always exist. But social conventions of beauty also exist.
>>96831036>women like vulnerable menYou drank the kool-aid
>>96831014Naturally stronger, and so society is largely female-led and structured, but not so mighty that one couldn't overcome or surpass them with great effort. In fact, I suspect a man that fit that ideal would be highly prized as fit for siring stronger offspring
>>96825492Star Wars does have matriarchies like the nightsisters and hapes consortium
I personally would not swap what positions or interests are considered feminine or masculine unless they relate to combat (hunting for example). So in my Amazon setting, a Knights Hospitaller expy would have its knight women in armor on the battlefield, but when it's time to treat the sick and wounded, they shed their armor for nurse uniforms and assist the male doctors, or even wear armor that is stylized to resemble a nurse uniform.
>>96819143You mean like some kind of world where matriarchy dictates that women are more suited to war than men? Or a world where women are physically (if not in other ways as well) more suited for war than men?
you have to choose a reason.>1) man/woman ratio is vastly skewed towards females, so any society who want to leverage its population for war is forced to recruit mostly women >2) For plot related reasons, females are vastly more effective combatants than men in the setting, so armies end up composed mostly of them >3) For plot related reasons, males are too valuable to be thrown into combat to die, thus women take their place. (Other than rarity or it's just point 1) >4) A being of sufficient authority has decreed it to be so. Societal pressures are the same as IRL, but are being defied by force, with the consequences that may involve. (Really just a different flavor of 3) for these points, it's important to differentiate if it has always been the status quo, or if it has been a recent societal development, the later one being a the better choice to highlight frictions between the old world order and the new. and last, the "no reason at all", you pretend there are no societal predispositions involved and everything just werks that way in the setting without any justification.
the god of war in the setting is a giant homosexual who can't stand seeing male warriors die, so upon conscription, he turns any male female so he can stomach the war.
>>96831800The latter.
>>96831935I'd pick 1, with a dash of 2 and 3. Men are much more rare than women, who tend to be stronger and more robust than here in the real world - at the same time, only men can wield sorcery, making them far too valuable to waste. Thus, those that find themselves at war are almost always captured rather than killed, whether for ransom or recruitment, and at home a talented sorcerer will fetch a very high groom price from the bride's family.Why would I choose this? Because magic is cool, and I'm horny for musclegirls, ezpz
>>96827222Can you think of any other social mammal that has larger females that are more aggressive?Not that their take is good anyways because what the fuck is this?>>96826846>Why are the men being kicked out? What hormones? Hyenas aren't elephants, males migrate because of a lack of unrelated females.>Why would pregnancy be seen as undesirable? High ranking females get pregnant first in clans, and for very good reason seeing as how outbreeding your sisters is very important in a hyena clan, so I'm not sure how you'd make that happen.>nigga do you really need the pseudo penis just get rid of it please i beg you.
>>96831935Those feel like they basically boil down to two reasons>men are too rare/valuable to field as soldiers on a large scale>men are less effective as warriors due to something that makes them worse or women better
>>96832056Then you only have two reasons to worry about :D
Here's a little fun fact about a famous Amazon setting that OP is talking about. While definitely outnumbered by the women, Queen's Blade does have examples of male warriors (largely background characters), and in the setting, men are still taller and have heavier builds.
>>96832040Rabbits are another mammal that has larger females in some species. I'm pretty sure that also applies in some cases with bats and seals and a few others. That said, I don't see why there's a reason to restrict things to mammals. Plenty of fish/reptiles/insects have larger females.It shouldn't be hard to come up with a reason why evolutionary pressures nudged things in that direction, assuming that you want a purely biological explanation over a magical one.
>>96832160Rabbits do have larger females from what I've heard, but I have no clue if they're more aggressive or more cautious, same with bats, I forgot which seal has the larger females, the leopard seal I think? Insects can work, but IMO, are ugly, but if that suits OP's taste I can't stop him. Fish can also work, and the only issue I know of reptiles is that the bigger they get, the more likely male biased dimorphism is to form, but that is a trend, not a rule.All of these can work though tbf, especially since OP stated EVERY society is like this, they only essentially have to worry about one species, or maybe more who just ended up following similar pressures out of coincidence. Hyenas just provide the 'easiest' route.
>>96832056You could give it a little twist and make the men all heroic (in the classical sense of hero) super soldiers with abilities that vastly outstrip any woman, but their rarity and the fact that two men clashing is almost always mutually destructive means they mostly just lounge around looking impressive while the women actually do everything.Any variation of an Amazonian setting is already veering hard into stupid fetish territory.
>>96832264longhouse ahh fiction
>>96832293There's no algorithm here, you can just say ass. Shit, piss, cunt, fuck, and even the naughtiest no no nigger nigger nigger words are all a-okay.In fact, I think right now the only thing you can't say is onions since the mods haven't had fun with word filters in like a decade.
>>96832264That's the first option, where males are valuable but rare. It doesn't matter if they're amazing mages or warriors, the fact that there are so few and they create collateral damage means that they just sit around with a harem while the women deal with border skirmishes. >Any variation of an Amazonian setting is already veering hard into stupid fetish territory.Pretty much. Simply having a single nation of Amazons in an otherwise typical setting will already sometimes raise eyebrows, but coming up with a justification for an entire setting to be that way is going to stand out as obvious for the reasons behind it.Still, it's a fun enough though experiment.
>>96819229No
>>96832262Leopard seals are the one I was thinking of, although based on a quick search that's due to them being less social than most seals, so a bigger female is just better at protecting pups. Rabbits and bats aren't exactly aggressive species to begin with, so nobody is going to call you out if your bunnygirls or vampire ladies are too aggressive. >maybe more who just ended up following similar pressures out of coincidencePretty much. It's really easy to just pick a species where the females are larger, find out why scientists think that's the case, and then just come up with an alt-history where that was true for a humanoid species.
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>>96832003In that case, we're still going to be looking at probably primarily matriarchal cultures. But I feel like sending literally all of the women to war is probably a waste of potential repopulation, so wars may not be fought on massive scales. It's still important to keep quite a few women in the homeland, so most conflict never escalates to full-blown war. It's primarily skirmishes between the best warriors that can be spared by any given side, between bouts of trying to find diplomatic solutions. This is assuming you keep the men home.Or, maybe, as another suggestion, if you wanted to be a total goof about it, it's like a Musou game. There are tons of men on the battlefield, but less because they're the best fighters and more because numbers still matter. But also there are elite forces of women who are capable of cutting through swaths of men, leading to wild tests of skill against one another when they meet on the battlefield. Hero fights, basically. Hordes of men cheering on the women of their people as they clash blades with the women of the opposing people.
>>96832094Huh, where in Queen's Blade is this from?
>>96835518Season 2, Episode 9
>>96832264A better idea would be one where the makes are easily defeated and grappled by the physically superior woman. Is more straightforward and you make the whole Amazonian setting more coherent.
do they have massive futa cocks?this is important
If this thread reaches autosage, then I'll make a part two. The opening post should probably include a few questions. Here's the list I have so far, feel free to suggest more:>What genre would you make your setting be?>Do women tend to be musclegirls, men tend to be twinks, both, or does comparative height and build not change?>Is the magic that men and women are capable of different?>For pursuits that don't involve combat (such as hunting), are ones that are considered masculine and feminine swapped? Which ones?>While women would dominate military matters, what about other goverment matters? Do those end up women dominated?
>>96836469your thread isn't good enough to justify it being a pseudo-general, fuck off
Have you considered Harrison's West Of Eden?
>>96819143Why not move away from standard Human type races/characters? Both male and female Cabal are capable fighters but female Cabal have tusks and the males carry their newborn seahorse stylePictured, a female Cabal
I see many anons are focusing on scenarios where big women peg little men because that is titillating to them. Don't deny it, soft boys. But I see also that OP does not mention that there have to be men in the setting, only women. So let's consider:>Through means magical or natural, a race of hominids dominates the world where all members are hermaphrodites>it would be gross if they could have beards and things, so they'll be sexy women capable of a range of musculature, just with cocks and balls where the clit should be.>These are women definitionaly, because they have everything a woman is and does, though they have no concept of multiple sexes among them.>This radically alters their society from our own, as the pregnant and the impregnator is not pre-determined.>Power dynamics are more universal and cut-throat, and social trust systems are either more heavily enforced or quite absent, leading to a split of highly regimented societies and brutish orc-like cultures of rule of the strong and cunning.>As being a mother is far more of a burden than being a father, being impregnated is a humiliation and an assertion of dominance by the stronger amazon.>Half or more of all combat is ritual combat to determine which mate will sire and which will bear the baby, even among loving couples.>Marriage is a liberal concept among the more civilized and sedentary groups, with some religious orders even extolling the virtues of motherhood to the horror of traditionalists and barbarians>Some fuedal-like societies exist where the high king is the husband of all her direct vassals, who in turn hold their own direct vassals as wives while themselves being pregnant with the king's children>All slaves, and there are many captured in wars, are castrated and made permanently female.>There are some mythical societies in this world where it's members have their vaginas sown shut at a young age and they take many slaves from other groups to reproduce only as the fathers.
>>96836660you got your janny application rejected?
Easiest way is to just have a different sex ratio. If male children are simply uncommon then the vast majority of societal roles have to be filled by women out of pure necessity. Whether you want there to be literally one dude (like ganondorf and the gerudo, who normally only give birth to other gerudo women besides the prophesized dark lord who takes over the world) or it's only like 90 to 99% women so seeing men is uncommon but not especially noteworthy, like seeing somebody who's 6'4 is "oh wow you're tall" but you're not running to write a news article about someone who's only 99th percentile height, that's not even tall enough to play in the NBA
>>96820168Men need to be better than the women at SOMETHING in order for this society to not just be a reverse of ours with a full on matriarchy. The fact that an untrained 50th percentile man has the grip strength of a 95th percentile woman while also being much physically larger and heavier on average is why matriarchy is basically unheard of in human history. With a skewed gender ratio but men still being physically stronger, you'd still end up with most combat jobs being done by women simply because the men are too valuable to lose in battle, if they're outnumbered but still stronger you won't have a matriarchy but it'll be like a Lion's pride where most roles are done by women while the men stay at home and only come out for serious threats. If your clear fetish material requires Amazons then you need the men to be overwhelmingly better mages or druids or psychics or some shit to justify this society not being a full on matriarchy that treats men as cum-sponges at best. Even IRL women at least have the advantage of there being just as many of them as men so even if they're weaker they're not outnumbered, imagine how miserable life as a woman would be in a society that's 99% men and women are just breeding tools, that's what you've basically set up but with the genders reversed
>>96826054>had a pecking order similar to wolves.You're describing the basic family unit you retard. Wolf packs consist of a mated pair of male and female and their children. When the kids are old enough they go off on their own to make their own packs.The reason the other wolves follow the pack leader isn't because he's the most violent and psychopathic, it's because he's their fucking father or mate. The family unit is the most basic organization of tribal society, and the earliest human societies would have been made up of extended families cooperating for the same reason Wolf packs do. A giga nigga grug caveman coming up and smashing your dad or brother's skull in doesn't make you want to follow him, it makes you want to hang up on him and get revenge because there's strength in numbers and even the strongest ape is still vulnerable when sleeping. The most successful early humans would be those with a lot of kids and wives who could manage cooperation effectively.This fucking/fit/cel delusion that one caveman would just work out a lot and take over an entire group of humans by being strong is retarded. Cavemen were killing wooly mammoths by cooperating and having sharp sticks, might makes right and antisocial behaviors have never been what made you successful, the world has ALWAYS been a fucking popularity contest
>>96839132Yeah. Even in the case where women are physically superior, you probably still wouldn't get a majority of female warriors, because in that context the men are still useful on the battlefield as skirmishers or cannon fodder. Having the men be mages of some kind, even if it's just healing or utility magic, gives them a reason for the amazons to not treat them as disposable foot soldiers.
>>96839296B-but that's hot.
>>96839296if it was like 70/30 or maybe even 80/20 you might still see a lot of male soldiers but if it's something crazy like 90-95% women I don't think male soldiers would be a thing, they're too valuable to lose. IRL there's examples of countries coming back from DEVASTATING losses of the male population like Paraguay where literally 90% of military age men died, but that's because the surviving 10% could still make 50% sons so the next generation pretty much immediately recovered (with the Pope literally sanctioning Polygamy to help the very Catholic country recover lol) But if you lose a bunch of men in a war and the survivors are still making only 90% daughters it's a major loss that will take multiple generations to recover
>>96839565Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Where it isn't enough to simply have the men be weaker, but they also have to be rare.If you just invert the averages of height and physical ability between men and women, but still have 50% men, then it doesn't really matter if those men are weak if they can still hold a spear and it's not a problem for your future population if they die. Those devastating loses you bring up become commonplace, because you'd want the extra cannon fodder to help your actual capable female warriors (who you can't field too many of so as to not population bottleneck) survive.Simply making the women physically superior isn't enough by itself in order to explain why the men aren't being used as disposable chaff. You need a skewed gender ratio on top of that, or some other aspect that makes the men valuable in non-combat roles.
here's a setting:1. there are no civilizations. all societies are small hunter-gatherer clans consisting of women and their children. since there are almost no men in sight, the women do the hunting and fighting.2. all boys are kicked out of their clan, under threat of death, roughly when they start to enter puberty. (this is consistent across cultures due to men usually being horny and violent or whatever)3. most boys subsequently die, either of starvation or by being killed by a larger and stronger man.4. those who survive invariably enter a clan to try and fuck all the women. a man who can overpower a woman is viewed favorably. additionally, men may try to kill young boys who aren't theirs, further reducing the male to female ratio.
>>96831242Cqn you tell me where "This is the way" came from? Because I assure you it wasn't a nightsisters mantra and had nothing to do a consortium of hapas
>>96829489Because the kind of people who yearn for a "musclemommy" self-insert as twinks, despite being 30+ years old and grossly overweight on average
>>96819143Amazons work best as an isolated novelty in a patriarchal/normal world. They should also be stronger than the average NPC but weaker than the average PC, making for wonderful rapeslaves.
>>96836469I came up with another idea:>How does courtship change?
>>96836469I think if you want to make it a general, it needs to be able to go somewhere, and not just be a loose discussion about a hypothetical.
>>96819143Post apocalyptic low fantasy setting where only the strong survive.
>>96842566>nips outEnjoy the vacation, /b/ro o7 in chat for this hero...
>>96819143What kind of aesthetics do you prefer your Amazons to have? Especially in terms of armor?
>>96846303don't you ever get tired of yourself?
>>96819143There will be TWO rules:1. The women are BIG2. They're nice to me
>>96819143The only way to sire a male is to fuck one in the ass, limiting drastically the quantity of male available and selecting them to be twinks
Inverted Spartan SocietySociety where warrior women enforce woman-girl love on girls from the age of 7 up. Men have to trap it up to turn on their wives on their wedding night. Also the lesbian sex is primarily ass licking and spanking to build up the buttocks. As such they're really REALLY good at eating ass. Big tit bitches are peasants who do house work and please men with titfucking while the fighters are away. Men also get insulated from basically everything and look at clay pot drawings all day and read philosophy.
>>96820168I know you took my ideas from the Matriarchy Thread on /D/
>>96829489They wouldn't be anime shotas or twinks but they WOULD likely be ottermode pretty boys. Look at pop stars that women literally get psychotic and murder each other over, they're often slender (but still with classically attractive to women traits like being tall and having large hands), fashionable, somewhat effeminate features but still with a masculine voice, etc.The same way female pop stars are still huge and successful in our world where men are bigger and stronger by a lot, in a fantasy world with either very few men, or the sexual dimorphism reversed with women as the stronger and larger sex, you'd still see a shit-ton of male musicians and pop stars and shit and the gorilla women would still go apeshit at seeing the Backstreet Boys or K-Pop prettyboys or The Beatles even if they were weaker than women.A woman's idea of a "jacked" dude is Brad Pitt as Tyler Durdes in Fight Club, it's more about having low body fat than being able to arm wrestle halfthor bjornson.
>>96842639you can see her puss-puss, the nipples are the least of concern
>>96847969>A woman's idea of a "jacked" dude is Brad Pitt as Tyler Durdes in Fight ClubSo is most men's. Spend less time on /fit/ and more time actually lifting.
>>96819143I'm kinda doing something like that. There's loads of female-only races like dwarves, elves, halflings, and ogres. Humans do still have a few tribes that copy this and have women as the exclusive fighters, but humans are the race that's unique in using men as their primary fighters(granted they're the only ones that have them).Its mostly a bunch of individual societies and city-states with not much consolidation of land. Because I find that more interesting.
>>96846303Do you mean in general cultural aesthetic design or in how much skin they show?
>>96836469Another thread question:>Do you try to have an in-universe biological justification in your setting or just let Rule of Sexy maintain Suspension of Disbelief?>>96839132Already have it. A women spellcaster can fling a magic missile, heal minor wounds, enchant a few weapons in combat, etc, but if you need the big spells that take a long time to cast, you'll need a male caster. Men in the military get a crash course in magic so that they can cast or assist in casting big spells that do things like teleport in supplies from far away, treat major damage (to both person and armor) etc.
>>96848908How do the female only races reproduce? If they have a non-sexual reproduction method, can they still sexually reproduce with human males? If they can sexually reproduce with human males, does this result in half-races or the same race as the mother?
>>96820074This is ai-slop, isn't it?...I'm beginning to think sloppa has its uses and can live in harmony with traditional creators and artists.
>>96831014>should the women being amazons put them at the same level as men, and thus you have an romantic fantasy where a husband and wife can be true equals and do everything together as soulmatesthis is pretty much what im intoi want to be a huge warrior dude with a huge warrior wife, we can go on dates where we lop the heads off our enemies
A long time ago there was discussion about a society inspired by peacocks/peahens. Males were rare and gifted with psionic powers, so most of them were telepaths or soulknives when they deigned to engage in physical combat, which was considered menial work that was left to the women, who were muscular and efficient, silently serving their male masters. The males were flamboyantly well-dressed while the females were drab spear wielding commandos who clustered around their male. THe word Melek Taus was used at some point.
>>96856577Are you stupid, trolling or both?The artist is speedl00ver.
>>96856879Do you still have a link?
>>96819143I wouldn't have all women be amazons, I'd have amazons be a third gender, sociologically speaking. Regular men and women take on civilian roles, amazons live in martial tribes and armies.
>>96819143EhI probably just wouldn't. I really like variety in my worldbuilding, and tend to avoid anything monolithic, unless it serves a very important purpose. I have amazon, and female lead societies all the time. Probably less often than egalitarian or male led, and a few of them I'm actually quite proud of.But an entire world of this just sounds boring.
>>96859795>I'd have amazons be a third gender,My best amazons have been like this, I find it actually does a pretty good job of removing some of the inherent cheesecake to the concept, to take them a step away from standard human reproduction cycles. My favorite have been arctic amazons that reproduce, literally, via spores. Focus on archery, hunting, and cold weather survival, and go temporarily sterile if they enter high humidity environments, because the spores get wet. A combination of magical nuclear waste, and an old as fuck, paranoid dragon did it, mostly.
>>96856476>How do the female only races reproduce?With human men. There's no "half" races as a result.This does lead into a lot of conflict between the various groups.
>>96819143What kinds of magic do your Amazons use? Mine mainly stick with healers and priestesses of their goddesses.
>>96860573I remember a long time ago someone posted a battle report that was Amazons vs Beastmen, under the pretense that the beastmen needed wives and the amazons had snubbed them when the beast king proposed the idea to the amazon queen.I remember thinking about how that might work out, if beastmen always sire beastmen and amazons always birth girls, then what happens when they combine? Monstergirls, of course.
>>96829489That something I find interesting is cattleya's husband, Owen, is a huge Conan-like man>>96832094It odd thing that people gloss over, but that not surprising, since queen blade mostly focus on the tits and ass.
>>96856577It's genuine art made by an artist with the pen name Speedl00ver. Using the image search will lead to their profile.
>>96857039>>96863852His art looks like slop.
>>96863877You look like a retard.
>>96863877Kek, if you can't recognize slop instinctively you might be retarded. Sorry to break it to you, but you're skinwalker popcorn.
>>96861989Their kid will be a badass as an adult with genes like that. And when you think about it, wouldn’t Amazons want strong men as partners to produce a stronger next generation?
>>96866287It really depends on their culture. In myth they didn't really like the Gargareans but a "civilized" Greek man was irresistible.A reminder Achilles and Heracles never had Amazon waifus, just Amazon enemies. But then you have some Amazons that gi with the Red Sonja school of thinking where a man has to defeat her first and since she's a muscular warrior with experience in combat it wasn't gonna happen.
>>96861989>>96866287>Their kid will be a badass as an adult with genes like thatNot only are his parents the Giant Killer and Dragon Slayer, but I think in the sequel Rana becomes the Harem protagonist!>>96866327>But then you have some Amazons that gi with the Red Sonja school of thinking where a man has to defeat her first and since she's a muscular warrior with experience in combat it wasn't gonna happen.See, this is where you challenge her to a contest of wits instead!
>>96866365Shut the fuck up nicedaemonette
>>96819143so you guys sit in circle playing imaginary prtty girls in leather miniskirts?sounds extremely gay and not in old fashion meaning of the word
>>96868378you sit around imagining buff dudes in leather tops, then? Sounds pretty fucking gay to me.
>>96848908>female-only elvesacceptable>female-only dwaves, halflings, and ogresactual insanity
>>96859636Sadly no, I was looking for it myself. The idea of vain prettyboys surrounded by shy musclegirls is kind of hot but it does seem like a nice way to turn the sorceress + knight harem thing on its head. After seeing this >>96835770 post I actually have a 3.5 build concept for this now.
sissy thread
>>96839179>might makes right and antisocial behaviors have never been what made you successfulFalse. You have no idea what you're talking about at all.
>>96869594>NYOOOO NOT MUH HECKIN DORFERINOSRedditor take
>>96861989Being taller and of heavier build doesn't count for much in combat ability in Queen's Blade, though that's pretty typical in anime.
>>96861989>a guy that makes Cattleya look proportionally like a regular womanIf her being married weren't a downer already, that's enough to mog a fan into oblivion.
>>96873147Dudes a Dragon Slayer, yet he and his wife are designated jobbers...
>>96873185No one gives a shit ND
>>96819143Men do not exist in my setting.
>>96819143Women have more compact muscle fibers for superior strength while keeping a realistic frame, and gestation is much faster/safer while men only produce limited sperm every few months
>>96873185Giants and Dragons must not be that fearsome in that setting, unless they are the monstergirl type.
>>96829489Long answer: It doesn't, it just 'Twinks' are beautiful men, thus a physical sign of good genes, so women naturally desire them. 'Handsome' is a recent cope-concept, invented by ugly men to feel better, however even today any woman will choose an k-pop star over any hair-covered slab of meat. Such is demonstrated through out history and across cultures. Just look up stuff like Wakashu or tales of Achilles being so beautiful he could masquerade as a daughter of a king.Short answer: You are faggot.
>>96885464>look at stories written by men for other men to know what women want
>>96887064Male pederasts no less. The question why a culture of boyfuckers elevates boyish androgynous looks to the highest male beauty standard will forever remain an unanswered mystery.
>>96885464Based twinkenjoyer. The LARPers don't realize that only other men find hairy bulky gymbro men desirable. They're basically homos.
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>>96830684I knew immedietly what that was because of Sseth...>>96832003what does Sword World have to do with this?
>>96820196That would defeat the goal of having an amazon aesthetic. But I did see a Manwha that went more this way. It was the usual isekai harem garbage and I stopped reading like 2 chapters in, but the world idea was that only women could cultivate internal energy, guys just couldn't do it. So any woman old enough to walk with even a modicum of training could overpower a man once she uses her full power but body proportions are still the same.
Ars Magica has an interesting take on the Amazons. They are a hostile magical tradition who may serve as potential rivals to the Order of Hermes. Unfortunately, they exist largely on the extreme fringes of Mythic Europe, and are often pigeonholed as villains. In a one-player saga I ran, I featured them—but I had to handwave the initial kidnapping. They might make even better antagonists for a Sahir-focused saga, though. One can easily imagine how Muslim sorcerers would find the Amazons’ all-female tradition and society particularly offensive.
>>96819143Can amazonian or matriarchal nations work in a modern setting?
>>96892425Define modern.Literally today? Yes. Modern as in the modern era? Sure, but it probably needs some kind of explanation.
>>96882726>Giants and Dragons must not be that fearsome in that setting, unless they are the monstergirl type.Queen's Blade is one of those settings where power is more derived from Magic, which sort of make sense due to the female focus, but it is kind of bullshit strong and skilled warriors like Cattleya and Owen are so low tier while everyone else has crutches like enchanted gear or sorcerous ability.At least Cattleya had the excuse of literally juggling Rana...>>96892425>>96892451>Modern as in the modern era? Sure, but it probably needs some kind of explanation.I've always championed the Space Colonist Amazon.Settling an alien world, you want as strict of control over your population growth as possible, and what better way than making sure your population can't do it the old fashion way?No males means no "happy accidents," every child has to purposefully be created via recombinant in-vitro fertilization.At that point, why not do a little gene editing to make your daughters hale and hearty?
>>96819143I'd obviously invert the setting trope and there will be one society of male warriors.
>>96819653>Can't a dominant woman do normal sex things?Unironically no. A womans role is inherently submissive as she is the one being penetrated. Also there is no such thing as a "dominant woman".
>>96894458You yearn for the corrective pegging, we can all see it.
>>96891085Nothing, I just include beautiful combatant women to my posts because it matches the thread theme.
>>96885464Lmao this
>>96896947I’m fine with that.
>>96891122Some people like muscles, some people like waifs. Some people like tall, some people like short. Some people like thick, some people like slender. Some people like cow tits and some people like flat. And there's everything in between the extremes I've named. There's room for everyone's tastes.
>>96819143How do your amazons decide their leaders?
>>96924247Gossip, backbiting, rumor mongering, and just generally being the cattiest bitch able to henpeck the others into submission.Just like real women.
>>96914501>There's room for everyone's tastes.Not in an amazon thread, retard. Do you also go to orc threads to complain about all the tusked, musclebound greenskins or complain about all the bearded midgets in a dwarf thread?
>>96927203There are already plenty of Amazon settings that don't universally make the women musclegirls.
>>96929775And they're shit
>>96819143 Has anyone mentioned here yet the is it okay to pick up a girl in a dungeon franchise Amazon?
>>96930546Damn, that thirsty one in the middle.
Society where all the females are physically superior and futanari, destroying and subjugating male societies.
>>96835767Yes but they never get used because they lack balls and therefore can't get anyone pregnant.
>>96863877What do you think they trained the models on, retard?
>>96891122The Greek Myth Amazons weren't large and muscular. Their depictions have them be classically feminine as their strength comes from being related to the gods
>>96819143I remember like a decade ago the regular Amazon world building threads where folks would repeatedly discuss the same concepts over and over. It's great being autistic sometimes.
>all these people too mindbroken by AI to save an image without sharing their anxieties on a Kazakhstani shoe cobbling corneryou people are so fucked in the coming ten years, just give up while you can safely tuck this impulse away
>>96927200Amazon society be like>congratulations catching your first man, Becky! And at the spry, young age of 26 too! You sure have a keen eye, being able to spot a man too slow and heavy to outrun you so quickly!>aww thank you! You sure are brave, and not just in battle! I'd never dare leave the house looking like that. Your taste in clothes is... unique! >not as unique as your taste in men! You're truly avant-garde, running into an athletics event and dragging out the mid-50s overweight coach. Truly eschewing traditional beauty standards in favor of the dad bod, you're really out here breaking stereotypes!>I haven't seen you take any man home in the past five years. "Working on yourself", huh? I can respect that!
>>96819143I was thinking of how the Gerudo in Majora's Mask were reimagined as pirates, are there any other settings with pirate/ocean-faring Amazons out there? And how would you handle the concept?
>>96945318Iron Kingdoms has the Satyxis. Originally human, but corrupted by dragon blood/blight (IK dragons are weird), their male children are born deformed or sacrificed at birth, their woman have horns, live on an island(s?) and serve as pirates/raiders for Cryx.
>>96943826You know now I see why lots of Amazon societies are hard capped to barbarian tier. If they had the social dynamics of contentious women, plus the physical competitiveness of men, absolutely nothing would ever get done. And with all those images of battle-scarred women you see itt, you'd know are most likely all dueling scars.
>>96927203>all the bearded midgets in a dwarf threadIsn't the eternal debate about dwarfs is if the women should be lolis or shortstacks?
>>96946751>All the social dynamics of contentious women.That's my big gripe with a lot of Amazon cultures, is that they almost always assume said amazons are going to have identital mannerisms and social conventions, within their society, to women in more patriarchal civilisations.My other big gripe is trying to enforce a Matriarchy in civilizations past the 1890's-analogue.But if you've got a civilization with women in positions of physical superiority, or even just leadership, the resulting culture is going to have different concepts of gender role.Those specifically come from sexual dimorphism.TL:DR in a real amazon society/species/faction, the men would probably be all about backbiting, bitching and catty shows of wit, alongside weighty emotional baggage and support between male friends, while women would be a lot less emotionally charged, but also a lot less intersocial and supportive of each other.
>>96819143If I created an Amazon setting I would mostly be writing with my dick and later ironing out the inconsistencies in the setting if I can find the time to bother and not be burdened with most of the blood being in my penis at the thought of resting my face on a strong tall woman’s abs.
>>96819143You know, the Amazons had an all-make counterpart tribe in the original myths IIRC. Why don’t we see more situations like that, and how would you handle that?
>>96947635I like to think those two are the same age and theres just a variation on dwarf body types.
>>96821255I chuckledthank you for the mirth
>>96832040>Can you think of any other social mammal that has larger females that are more aggressive?I don't know about aggressive, but female lions in a pride do all the hunting while the sole male of the pride sits on his ass all day until another male tries to fight him for the pride
>>96957380>but female lions in a pride do all the hunting while the sole male of the pride sits on his ass all day until another male tries to fight him for the prideYou realize this has been deboonked multiple times over, right? Lionnesses hunt smaller prey and harrass the larger ones, but it's typically up to the male to make the killshot
>>96949309Counterpoint: bonobos live in matriarchal societies and their troupes are basically catty simian longhouses.
>>96892425>Can amazonian or matriarchal nations work in a modern setting?the modern era is arguably a matriarchy at this point
>>96954240Probably because the all-male tribe isn't nearly as sexy.
>>96967010True, but it would explain a few things.
>>96831036What you describe is not world building, it's fetishism. Maybe you should undergo a period of honest psychoanalisis, or nigredo, or whatever you want to call "asking yourself why you feel and think the way you do" to better understand yourself.
>>96968452The Amazons of Greek mythology were believed to be based on the Scythans, a steppe nomad tribe to the east of the Greeks who had women fighting alongside the men. I wonder how the women and men were ever seperated in that origin.
>>96819960There's an Amazon faction for Expedition : Agartha Descent.
>>96938496I'm going to post this in every Amazon thread I see from now on
>>96975630Mind telling us more?
>>96820238Make them the hybrid class: magic, leotards & thin long swords. The quick magic is for single to small scale combat. Large scale magic is for scholastic bros kept safe in monasteries brewing wisdom juice, farming, baking and debating about life.
>>96984013>magic, leotards & thin long swords
>>96819143What ethnic features do you prefer your Amazons to have?
I can't wait to see what interesting and thought provoking question bumpfag is gonna ask next. Is it perhaps going to be: "Really? Please tell me more!" or maybe "Could you please elaborate?" Riveting shit, gotta say.
>>96954240>what are orcs and dwarves in contemporary fantasy
>>96990757>dwarves >masculine Lol!
Now that I think of it, aren't most monstergirl settings also amazon settings? The monstergirls tend to also be physically powerful and since the focus are on hot women, the humans warriors also tend to be women, with the occasional man who is a frequent target for rape.
>>96995034If we're just being coomers, how do we feel about muscle growth settings where normal girls get transformed into tall stronk fightladies from a ritual or exposure to a cursed rock or something?
>>96995034Kinda. Personally I prefer sukebe elf.
>>96819143I made one of the nations in a game into an Amazon nation and it ended up in one of the better arcs of the game.>Matriarchal, run by a Queen who has a council of officials that oversee various functions of the nation (economy, law, etc) with her making final decisions>Population skew is 70/30 Female/Male, Females born at a much higher rate>Women are fairly fertile, having twins is common, convalescence from birthing children is fairly quick (around 1-2 months)>Children are raised communally after age 3, sometimes earlier if on a war footing>Women are 1st class citizens, Men are 2nd (can't own businesses/land/etc.)>Amazonian men are fairly androgynous and close in height to the women, most obvious 'this is a dude' flag is a deeper voice>Military service is mandatory, men as well have to serve in support roles>If not at war, military service is either border patrolling/policing or joining a warband to 'raid' other lands>'Raiding' for Amazons is in reality just playing PMC for other nations while man hunting>Man hunting is exactly what you think, where they challenge men in trials of skill to earn a night with the amazon challenger>Serves to make sure that the genes they're mixing with are worth the time, though some Amazons will throw the challenge if they're particularly attracted>Most women's goals are to have their first child early, if not multiple>Amazonian men fill the gaps for worthy fighters during times of duress/population decline>Otherwise Amazonian men live fairly sexless lives, often resorting to bisexuality, though some are traded as part of 'deals' between families that are co-operating in businesses>Amazons scale in height from 6-7ft, with features ranging depending on race of the father>The actual Amazon nation isn't open to most travelers outside of merchants that either pay fees at the dock to trade, or buy/acquire writs from Amazonian traders outside of their nation
>>96995034Most "monster girl settings" aren't faggy femdom cumdiet slop, no
Not exactly Amazons in the traditional sense, but this idea has been bouncing around in my head for a while so might as well drop it here>in Sparta Hold up, don't leave! I promise there'll be femdom soon>in Sparta wealth tended to accumulate in women due to inheritance law: sons and daughters would inherit wealth equally, but if a man died without children his sister would inherit his wealth >eventually noble Spartan women would become wealthy and influential enough to informally become important players in national politics despite not formally participating in itAssume such a society would eventually make it to modern times>industry and economic planning become more important than individual skill and bravery>as the center of power shifts from the military to the economy, it also shifts from the masculine to the feminine >bringing home the bacon is seen as a woman's job while the man's job is to take care of the household, look pretty and maybe fight once in a while if necessary >you effectively get a society of men itching for the next war, but they need permission from their office lady wives to go>sometimes the matriarchy throws the men a bone by sending the army to some third world shithole to fight the militia that they financed to fight the militia they financed to fight the militia they financed to etc etc>they've been fighting in the 'stan for 15 generations and a tour of duty has effectively become a rite of passage for young men (and is treated with the same levity as a frat initiation)>the unmarried battle fanatic in his 40s who's still fighting in the desert is their equivalent of a manchild playing bing bing wahoo's in his mother's basement instead of going out and getting laid (I guess that makes shitting in a shallow ditch their equivalent of a pissbottle?)
>>96999498This isn't a good amazon setting or femdom settingbut it's an incredible setting for homoeroticismJust add Ghosts of Mars style anti-woman sentiment and melee combat
>>96836469Another possible thread question:>Did you Amazon setting start off as such (like in Queen's Blade) or was it some new development (fantastical like in Claymore or mundane like in Girls Und Panzer) that lead to it being that way?>>96995342Great news for you. A fan translation is in the works since the official translation is in development hell or perhaps quietly canceled altogether, due to a combination of the presence of a legal loli and parental incest.
>>96985694Blonde Scythians or brown jungle Amazons with unexplained European facial features
>>97002484This whole thread is just homoeroticism hiding behind a thin veil of false heterosexuality.
>>96819143Traditional games?
>>97005187>bumpfagging
>>97005187roll a pair of dicethe number is how many hours you spend getting purple nurples, wet willys, and noogies in the amazonian torture chamberhow's that for a traditional game?
>>97005286Ahhh, so nogames...
>>97005187>>97005305Lurk more./tg/ isn't just for games.
>>97006136Nogames cope
>>96985694I like them to actually look similar to IRL Greeks.
>>97005187
>>96819143I wrote an alternate version of Pendragon's Arthurian Britain sort of in this vein - men simply didn't exist. Humanity is split into Oathwomen (masculine social role, Amazonian dickgirls/futanari, knights) and Hearthwomen (feminine social role, female, courtly ladies).
>>97007709Is this in Da Archives or should we ask the share thread?
>>96974490there was an expectation in scythian society that women would take up arms to defend their homes if they were attacked while men were away, you can see the same thing in feudal japansome greeks went to go raid the scythians at home, caught a clan while the menfolk were away, and came back with stories of a tribe of warrior women who drove them offcentaurs are also believed to be related to scythians (and other nomadic steppe people), being a union of man and horse known for skill with bows and arrows
>>97006656Look at the catalog and see for yourself.
>>97008401>Men simply don't exist>But half the women have cocks and fill male social rolesNot gonna criticize your fetish but I feel like the gender dynamics in this society would be too similar to normal patriarchal societies to really fit what most would think of as "Amazon."
>>97008401>yuri but with actual sexPatrician's choice, only cucks and fags don't understand.
>>97005187Playing with your dick while looking at hot women is one the oldest if not the oldest game. It almost assuringly predates our species even.
>>97002484Why people conflate amazons with femdom. Sexually dominating or even raping a physically strong woman and showing her that no matter how physically at peak she is for a woman she's still inferior to a male is far more rewarding than doing it to some skinny wench less than half your weight. As a fetish I see amazons as worthy prey for sexual conquest.
>>97017683Yes, we see you as a retard who would lose a fight with a woman in a coma.
>>97007709Delete the first cover, it's a self-insert of troon kickstarter scammer Andrew Veeres
>>97017785Chill down, nobody is raping you, we're talking about a fictional fetish setting. I'm well aware there exists extreme outlier women who can effortlessly curbstomp me personally. It's just that when it comes to amazons I much rather fantasize about being a buff guy humbling them rather than some fag getting pegged or whatever femdom fans get their rocks off (or prostates as the case may be) at.
>>96981296Setting is an absolute kitchen sink of potentially every trope under the sun. It's amazons can just as well be 1:1 greek mythology copies or ancient spacefaring but now fallen race of space babes depending on what the anon who wrote the faction felt was cool.
>>97008401>>97017640>trooncoded whining about VGH MENlmao, it always turns out this way with cuckazon simps
>>97017953>Setting is an absolute kitchen sink of potentially every trope under the sun.Meh, more like any trope that could fit into a 90's Lost World episode. Which is pretty large, admittedly, there's not a lot that it restricts. The nature of Amazons is left open ended because contact with them is less than 20 years old, everyone is still figuring what's happening and what is what. They could either be Subhumans (humans who have over generations modified under the weird influences of living in Agartha - "Subterranean Humanity") and as such are about as removed from us as fishmen are, or they are just humans who have adopted a very aggressive form of matriarchal power structure. The latter doesn't go very far to explain why they are that much tougher than other Deepfolks however.>>96975630Gameplay wise its an elite Deep mini-faction (as opposed to Colonials, Deep are usually using medieval weapons, Colonials are using ~1880s weaponry), the average Warrioress is about 1/3 better than the average Deep soldier in most respect except armour, which is non-existent. They are also mostly restricted to weapons that deal less Wounds than rifles and guns, and so must rely more on rolling Criticals, both attacks and dodges in order to keep pace with the bigger factions. Otherwise they have bait mechanics, forcing enemy models to move closer to expose themselves, promotion mechanics, the lowest soldiers the Apprentesses turn into Warrioress after getting 3 crits/one of her classmate gets killed, and a lot of "you may recruit up to X models from any other faction when you recruit this one, but actions they take does not score points toward victory unless Y or Z happens", etc.
>>97017785Why are you like this?
Here's a second draft of Opening Post questions:>What genre would you make your setting be?>Do women tend to be musclegirls, men tend to be twinks, both, or does comparative height and build not change?>Is the magic that men and women are capable of different?>For pursuits that don't involve combat (such as hunting), are ones that are considered masculine and feminine swapped? Which ones?>While women would dominate military matters, what about other goverment matters? Do those end up women dominated?>How does courtship change?>Did you Amazon setting start off as such (like in Queen's Blade) or was it some new development (fantastical like in Claymore or mundane like in Girls Und Panzer) that lead to it being that way?>Related to the above, in the former case, do you try to have an in-universe biological justification in your setting or just let Rule of Sexy maintain Suspension of Disbelief?
>>97030199Hold on, hold on, Opening Post? I always thought OP was short for Original Post. Am I the only one who says that?
>>97030199Bot post
>>97030298I think it works both ways, as being the thread opener, and being the first one posting as well as being the first faggot
>>97030298>>97030737Fucking tourists, I swear.
>>97030199>Opening Post questions:>it's at the botton of the threadRetard.No I will not fill out your gay little questionnaire
>>97030199Why are you like this too?
>>97030199Why would I even bother typing up a post you'll never actually have a discussion with? At most you might make a meaningless "can you elaborate further" bump post in like 18 hours.
>>97030199>girls und panzer>amazon setting...you've never actually watched GuP, have you? Hell, you've clearly never watched Queen's Blade or Claymore either if you think they're "amazon settings" too.
>>97030899I think Girls Und Panzer qualifies. The setting is that a rather major part of modern warfare is considered a feminine art, even though everything else is considered the role of men.>Queen's BladeIt's whole premise is hot women fighting.>ClaymoreThe setting is where women empowered with demonic powers, with the process primarily being done to women. How does that make it not qualify?
>>97030999>The setting is that a rather major part of modern warfare is considered a feminine artSo you HAVEN'T actually watched GuP, got it.Hint: boys do wargames too. They're off playing Top Gun while girls play with tanks, that's just not the focus of the story.>[Queen's Blade]'s whole premise is hot women fighting.The guys are all equally tough or tougher than the women, they just don't have a prominent role because again, that's not the focus of the story.By this retarded metric of yours you've set forth in these two examples, Harukana Receive takes place in a "modern tech amazon setting" since it's all about women's beach volleyball even though it's just regular modern earth.>The setting is where women empowered with demonic powers, with the process primarily being done to women. How does that make it not qualify?Read the manga and figure out how wrong you are, I'm tired of spoonfeeding you. Hell, the anime alone already subverts this before the end of its run.
>thread is nearly a month old>literally only one post about a traditional game, and it's some gay freeform ERP oneGod this board is dead and faggots like OP killed it
>>97031118Can you elaborate further?
>>97031083Zamn, OP got COOKED
>>97020965What's this even supposed to mean?
>>97008401Isnt this just men with extra steps and way more cope?
>>97005286You seem upset
>>96819143Can you elaborate further?
>>96819229>storiesI dunno, ask >>>/lit/
>>96819312>burgerrpunkForced meme
>>96819636>sees a woman>thinks about getting his ass railedWhat an odd thing to say
>>97032156Sorry you're not secure in your heterosexuality, anon
>>97032279There's nothing heterosexual about taking it up the ass
>>97032141You don't need other boards, tourist.
>>97017797Transwomen ARE women, bigot
>>97017922>nobody is raping youWtf anon???
